gameplay-help

[barren tapir]

this place is literally to ask questions lol that is its entire purpose

[storm heron]

cause she is still new. Though don't expect her to be so good

[dreamy blade]

idk which list youre looking at but new ships take time to evaluate and tier accordingly

[arctic aspen]

Because it's annoying for me as well

[humble echo]

ah ok i’m new

[nimble knoll]

Should I do 6-1Hm?

[arctic aspen]

the hell was that lmao

[wind hazel]

portland>laffey>>>>>>>>>helena

[tropic tusk]

this game isnt like other games where u will know how good a ship is in a day or 2 , it takes time in here

[dreamy blade]

although it is pretty safe to assume new purple ships are generally not amazing

[humble echo]

damn i see that’s interesting haha

[nimble knoll]

Laffey is closer though?

[wind hazel]

doesn't matter, you want to retro portland before laffey

[tropic tusk]

cause other game u can bring 1 team and kill most content this game every mode / level u need a different team

[humble echo]

oh i didn’t know that

does that make it harder?

[tropic tusk]

all game has their hard part tbh , this game hard part is just farming good gear later on as it takes time n rng

[woven star]

only one thing hard every boss change armor type gun/gear

two fleets makes game easy... one for boss, second for mobs

[barren tapir]

azur lane hard is

[dreamy blade]

the only hard part is how much time it takes to acquire everything

[barren tapir]

would focus x-2 hardmode for portland but imo it doesnt matter so much, portland mainly benefits from the stat nodes itself while laffey benefits from modernization more. it wont make a significant difference which completes first

[woven star]

I wish I have preload gear choice every time I start a boss

[tropic tusk]

math is also hard in this game but u can ignore that

[barren tapir]

what math, i just put my waifus and go

[nimble knoll]

I mean Laffey Is Only 4 upgrades away, while port is going to take longer, and I'm broke on coins

[tropic tusk]

first time when i play and i saw this im like yea im not doing math ill just play

[barren tapir]

take ur time no need to rush if portland is dying then prioritize portland, if not then i dont see a harm to go laffey first.

checking my archive i did do portland first apparently,

[nimble knoll]

The only time she's dying was when she was fighting the Hm event boss, but now she lives with a lot of hp.

[woven star]

my biggest AL's mistake was that slaimunda doesn't explain armor types gear

[wind hazel]

just last event we have newbie asking for better vanguard because portland dying in SP having a tanky tank is better than not

it is just an overall safer approach

[barren tapir]

well i always found portland pretty bad so yeah portland first but funnily she can actually be harder to retro than an elite bc of high purple need (which is mostly grind only) vs golds which can be cheesed early with 3* rewards

[nimble knoll]

If the boss isn't lvl 100 or more, and spams attacks my Portland should live

[humble echo]

ah yes i just got her is she for mobs or boss

[woven star]

he has Prinz Heinrich

it's about question about portland of laffy

[wind hazel]

[barren tapir]

?

[fallow sedge]

In shinano 3rd skill the skill where she needs 3 sakura ships in the fleet does herself count

So it's fine with only 2 other sakura?

[barren tapir]

probably don't want to use her

[nimble knoll]

if Laffey gets Xp, would it save or nah?

[barren tapir]

saves up to 3mil

[storm heron]

no need to waste for now, can save to 3 mil

practically no different

[barren tapir]

i see youve reached peak poverty levels

[nimble knoll]

Oh, so Doing that to Uni was not needed..

[barren tapir]

not wasted, she good tech

[nimble knoll]

I did some many dum dum things trying to get enough stats for 6-4hm-

[storm heron]

kinda if uni can survive and clear stages normally

ofc if u struggle then u have to up

[barren tapir]

every newbie gets stuck in the poverty rut for weeks or even months, don't worry. unless they go super slow anyway

[wind hazel]

awakening uni isn't a waste. it's good

[nimble knoll]

She can, and I just retrofitted her

[barren tapir]

uni awakening is good cos shes gonna be ur main fleet carry for ages tbh

i got her to 120 super fucking quick cos she kept carrying lol it's pretty normal once she is retrofitted

[nimble knoll]

I also like the fact that she can use her skill instantly, like Laffey using her Torps

[wind hazel]

everyone on beginner fleet is good to go above 100, except maybe portland, but that also depends on what other ship you have when she's 100

[violet oracle]

Do I go for my second wyvern or second triple 406 from the lab?

[barren tapir]

checking my archives...uni reached lvl120 5 days after i retrofit her, with 500k bonus exp

[nimble knoll]

Lmao

[nimble knoll]

[barren tapir]

2 days after that i decided to 125 her...she 125 with 1m extra

but yeah she will carry your fleet for a long time

[woven star]

interesting anyone choose something except laffy at the begining? I mean there were Jeveling or third boat... don't remember the name... ib z type

[wind hazel]

nowadays i would recommend z23 over laffey

[nimble knoll]

Does Uni Need Better Planes Or Nah?

[woven star]

baracuda maybe in second slot

[wind hazel]

except the fighter, everything else wants upgrade

[woven star]

and maybe better AA gun

[nimble knoll]

Don't have any purps of that sadly

[humble echo]

wait why she’s good

[woven star]

something like Twin 113mm AA (QF Mark I) even purps

[nimble knoll]

Nop

[wind hazel]

she uses gold bulin, which you might want to invest in main fleet instead

[humble echo]

oh i’m new so i got 1 fleet anyway

[woven star]

depends what you have the best and what you want from her

[wind hazel]

yes even more the reason to not use her

[humble echo]

really even if i have no one

[wind hazel]

it's not a great investment

i'd rather invest in something else like kazagumo or sandy than suzu

[humble echo]

yes i want sandy

[wind hazel]

best to invest into main fleet like hood tirpitz or enterprise

[humble echo]

i had an old account but lost it

[tropic tusk]

u wont really have no one just show ur box

[leaden garden]

Is Halford good?

[wet badge]

Is it worth it making fu shun into main fleet

[barren tapir]

i just picked laffey cos she's sleepy rabbit and so am i

[wind hazel]

unfortunately she has a bug now that makes her utter garbage

[barren tapir]

starter choice doesnt rlly matter long term imo

[wind hazel]

only for exp grinding really

[leaden garden]

Oh.. i'll just get felix then

[barren tapir]

meh even before a devastating bug that makes her basically useless. she does significantly less damage than a starter retrofit

[storm heron]

same reasoning when I retrofit corgi

[barren tapir]

there is a reason my name is what it is

[humble echo]

i just started playing again lol i lost my old account

[tropic tusk]

u really have nothing

[leaden garden]

Honestly i never planned on using her just want her for collecting i just asked if she was good cause i was having a hard time deciding of who should i prioritize first

[barren tapir]

new player, shocker

[humble echo]

🤣🤣 yeah don’t worry i will soon

[tropic tusk]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips give this a read will help u alot

[barren tapir]

shes wifey and i hurt

[humble echo]

thx yeah i have

[tropic tusk]

i thought when he said his new he will be like lvbl 90 or sth (i did see the ships level on the first picture xD)

[humble echo]

u think it’s better to start on little enterprise rather than sandy

[tropic tusk]

u mean server?

[humble echo]

yeah

[wind hazel]

yes kinda

[humble echo]

nah i literally started now

[tropic tusk]

i wont play on little enter tbh cause alot of cheater there and therefore probly less player?

[woven star]

you can pick up something from Spring Festival Invitation btw

[wind hazel]

cheaters dont affect you

having BB and DD medal is quite good

[tropic tusk]

i mean on the long run if u join guild and people get ban u will ended up earning less guild token

[humble echo]

i wanna pvp

[tropic tusk]

while on a active server u will have more players so ur guild might be more active

[wind hazel]

just join active guild in lil E then

[tropic tusk]

but wt if that active guild are just hacker that havent get ban yet

u seen the ban wave most of them are from that server

[wind hazel]

brother, you're making things up in your mind like 9 out of 10 guilds on lil E are hacker guilds or something

[tropic tusk]

i just say it cause every ban wave u will see 10-30 people from that server

[storm heron]

what does bro got on lil E

[wind hazel]

my guild has sister guilds across various servers and they are doing absolutely fine

many players around here are on Lil E too without issue like what you assume

[cobalt rapids]

not like they can tell hackers apart from normal players

[humble echo]

🤣

[tropic tusk]

thats true

[bleak nymph]

Aren't all the servers literally the same anyway?

[storm heron]

not that I mind if the hacker guild completed the guild raid in 1 day

[humble echo]

i just thought it’s less catch up to go on lil ent

[cobalt rapids]

pretty much
except medal rotations and actual players

[tropic tusk]

no nothing "big" different tbh its just i see alot of people getting ban in lil enter

[cobalt rapids]

starting today gives you the same catchup on any server
theres no difference if other players have access to older ships or not since it doesnt influence u

[bleak nymph]

why would anyone cheat a game like this one anyway

[leaden garden]

Should i use the Combat Data Pack Series on Combat Data Collection 1 or 2

[cobalt rapids]

turn em to protocore

[bleak nymph]

you shouldn't use them at all

[leaden garden]

Oh

Alr.. Maybe i should've asked first i used tons of them before

[bleak nymph]

the CDC even at 10-4 will get you both stages done within 3 days using the double exp thing

[leaden garden]

Thanks

[cobalt rapids]

well you shouldnt be grinding cdc before u reach 12-1 anyway

[bleak nymph]

High-Efficiency Combat Logistics Plan and also what he said

[tropic tusk]

oh yea when is anni?

[cobalt rapids]

may for cn
august for en
september for jp

[humble echo]

i thought it’s better if i wanted to pvp

[bleak nymph]

Is there any other difference for CN aside from no limit breaks?

[wind hazel]

you will be equally fucked because everyone will be running laffey2 and eldridge, and you have no access to them regardless of which server you pick

[tropic tusk]

skin censer

[cobalt rapids]

i mean for pvp ig
but then again lil e might be more competitive in pvp than some other servers

[woven star]

lilE fine with pvp

[leaden garden]

Srsly?

[storm heron]

competitive as in defense fleet setup I guess

[humble echo]

so should i switch before im in too deep

[cobalt rapids]

well im talking about tryhards
unless u wanna flex for 1 min on the leaderboard and ure just for merit then its irrelevant again

[storm heron]

this also decides the bar your fleet strength should be for you to make AoTN possible

[tropic tusk]

at the end of the day u cant really care much pvp as u lack alot of the limited units , so by the time u get them it wont matter where u are anymore

for a long time ur pvp will only be doing to collect pvp token to buy things in shop , unless u see people with weaker ship then u will earn abit more on those

[humble echo]

what’s the most active server than sandy?

[storm heron]

sandy

[cobalt rapids]

just go to #pvp whenever you have pvp questions
they will tell you about meritmaxxing and aotn and rush and all that jazz
this channel is mostly pve oriented and we dont really pvp

[bleak nymph]

uh eldridge retrofit how high priority for campaign?

[cobalt rapids]

if you have her item and ure past ur newbie days(you reached w12) then she is a very good investment

[bleak nymph]

oh she has an augment

[humble echo]

oh ok do u know what’s the most active server

[tropic tusk]

no her retrofit item was an event item

[cobalt rapids]

no i meant her retrofit item, it is limited, without it you cannot modernize her

[bleak nymph]

interactions with other players ingame are pretty much null

[humble echo]

oh really i thought the guild was important

[bleak nymph]

Maybe i do have it, i'll go check

[tropic tusk]

they are for a while , but people wont invite a low level account player unless they know him

[cobalt rapids]

yea but pretty much all servers have guilds you can join
just browse #1246721562741178410 by your server

[nimble knoll]

I just need money and two more DD Gold BP's and I can literally retrofit Laffey Also .. After that time to get Portland Retro

[winter condor]

I salvaged fu shun 2 days ago being sleep af there is a way to recover it?

[plain saffron]

No

[barren tapir]

wait til 2026

deserved, imagine scrapping such a cutie

[woven star]

guild gives merit shop items (mostly upgrade parts) and some guild operations. unfortune no pvp vs other guilds

[eternal basalt]

Was it your only one or the retro-copy

[winter condor]

Nvm then

The base one i was going to retrofit her when i saw who i didnt had it 🤣

Then i remember who i scraped 2 days ago a lot of ships with the auto mode so her was here

[wind hazel]

use autolock feature

[tame jungle]

see you next year

[eternal basalt]

https://weibo.com/5770760941/PaLVNkjCE?pagetype=profilefeed

[wind hazel]

o gear lab poggies

[winter condor]

Np atleast i have the item also in 1 year a lot of things can change tho

[tender girder]

is there any reason why i should join a new server, rather than an old server with more established guilds?

[wind hazel]

medal shop is the only really minmax reason, otherwise no

[tender girder]

wdym? medal shops in new servers are better or worse?

[wind hazel]

medal shops are different from server to server

[light trail]

is it worth spending 2000 protocores on an shan and tai yuan retro items

[tame jungle]

depends

[barren tapir]

depends

[tame jungle]

are you drowning in protocore and do you not know what to do with it

or well spec core* wrong currency

[light trail]

i have 27k and im just waiting til next UR event to spend em on new URs

that should be in like 2 months right

[wind hazel]

ultra rare fighter...

[light trail]

special core yeah, my bad

[tame jungle]

you'll probably be fine then, accounting for cruise pass and UR milestones, so if you want any of the ddgs go ahead

[light trail]

okok good to know, ty

what's the next rerun gonna be again? implac right

[barren tapir]

yes, ur rerun

next rerun is blucher

[light trail]

ok thank goodness, finally getting to reruns of events i missed

[tame jungle]

interesting addition at the end

[wind hazel]

how often are we getting gear lab update previously, only january?

[tame jungle]

didn't we get mk7 this summer? (fat finger)

[shell willow]

mk7 no

[wind hazel]

idk i dont keep track, that's why im asking

[tender girder]

is there anyone that keeps track of UR reruns?

[tame jungle]

yes

[tender girder]

just wondering if alsace or musashi would rerun ever

[tame jungle]

musashi has had her rerun already, next up will be permanent

[eternal basalt]

Yes, 2+ years after their original run

[tender girder]

or other OP URs for that matter. new player itching to get one here

[tame jungle]

#gameplay-help message

[light trail]

alsace probably won't be for another year or two

[wind hazel]

blaster

[tame jungle]

the goat

[shell willow]

is it really? from a tweet i read only new UR aa

[eternal basalt]

PR4 Tenrai

[wind hazel]

maybe MTL is fucking with me

[eternal basalt]

Which isn't a fighter

[shell willow]

yeah i think sea legend is the UR while the other 2 are just SR

[crisp raven]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/2024#June_6th_2024 according to wiki patch notes, yeah.

[light trail]

yay, i'll finally have implacable, unzen, owari, bis2, guam, laffey 2, and soyuz soon™ () im just glad i learned to not rush with AL

[wind hazel]

i see

[shell willow]

altho its weird cause this is already craftable, isnt it

[tame jungle]

the new AA gun seems to be american 3'/70

[wind hazel]

yeah end of IB fighter

[tame jungle]

a-6/r6 as opposed to g-3/r1

[shell willow]

oh wait its g-3/r1 so maybe completely different

[tame jungle]

german engineers giving their shit memorable names:

[wind hazel]

guess we wait, either way feb 20 update

[inner delta]

it's not name, it's literally just different model

[tame jungle]

designation then

[eternal basalt]

Anyway, Sardegnia gear, Sardegnia box?

[crisp raven]

and at least now we know when gear labs will be updated each year.

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[eternal basalt]

Until they break their own set rules again

[whole crypt]

well I expected Dec/Jun to be regular because of OS/CN anniv but for whatever reason these two years were late, by that wording

[sharp socket]

what is a 3'/70

[inner delta]

inch

[inner delta]

go google it

[sharp socket]

oh inch now it makes sense

[cobalt rapids]

the fighter is sr no?
the ur is the aa, idr cn mtl rarities

[wind hazel]

yes i think so, the mtl messed with the line format

i thought the german was UR

[cobalt rapids]

my plates wont survive

[wind hazel]

+13 3rd already?

[shell willow]

only the aa gun should be UR cause its the same characters as for tenrai rarity

[elfin hollow]

so uhm.. im trying to start the Fu Shun's Great adventure minigame but uhh it wont let me start it up..

[cobalt rapids]

also aux tab in gearlab

[eternal basalt]

Press cancel

[boreal wagon]

click cancel (dont ask)

[elfin hollow]

ah alrighty

[eternal basalt]

That would be great, but it says nothing of the sort, right?

[light trail]

this is remarkably thorough wow, ty! also i just now realized kazagumo was in medal shop i finally have her

[left cedar]

w8, Gearlab update ?

[shell willow]

in a month

[eternal basalt]

13 Blücher, 20 Gear lab, 27 UR... probably

[boreal wagon]

i mean one of the new additions is labeled "equipment" which CN uses for Aux

[light trail]

oh i forgot to ask bc i assumed she's just another SSR, but is chien wu especially good at something other than looking sexy

[cobalt rapids]

【设备】塘鹅（超稀有） this line implies its gonna be added in the aux line

[cobalt rapids]

not rly

[light trail]

okok. also what about retrofitting yat sen, worth?

[cunning bone]

is mogador a bossing ship?

[cobalt rapids]

yat sen great post rf when sortied with another de but then again depending on ur dock she might not rly do anything either

[cobalt rapids]

good in both
but fleets depend on content and ur other options

[eternal basalt]

【Equipment】Gannet (Super Rare)

[boreal wagon]

even if they dont add a new aux tab, it at least means aux can now be in gear lab

[cobalt rapids]

well tbf we had that with asw planes alr

[boreal wagon]

i dont count those

[light trail]

for DE ships i have CC retro, soon an shan and tai yuan retro, harbin fs5, and soon fu shun retro (of the ones more worth using)

[whole crypt]

preparing for afct

[cobalt rapids]

yea those are good options for yat pairing
but i meant that yat fills the tank role ( in campaign usually ) and depending what you have its not worth slotting her + her pair altogether

[eternal basalt]

Hopefully it's for steam catapults then, x2 gold for all ship

[light trail]

ahh okok, so like she's probably not good enough to be worth taking over agir or anchorage for example?

[cobalt rapids]

yeap

[light trail]

gotcha

[tranquil saffron]

I feel like I'm missing something, I've done every event I can find but I'm missing some the only part I can't find is the fireworks party

[honest vector]

Wait for the update.

[humble echo]

are these 2 good i’m completely new

[tranquil saffron]

Ok thanks I thought it could've been that

[humble echo]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[cobalt rapids]

its not advised to pull on this banner unless u rly like the ships

otherwise stick to 1 light build / day because the cube is refunded through daily and save for event banners ( other )

chien is okay for tanking
but if u have enty or hood in medal ure gonna be bulin starved and ull have to fallback on portland anyway so shes not rly helping

[honest vector]

Next time, do that in #bot-spam

[zenith heron]

anyone has a chart of Suchi's DDG's priority chart?

[humble echo]

oh ok i didn’t know this banner wasn’t good im new anyway so i got nothing

[cobalt rapids]

i dont have a chart of a chart but i think u mean this @zenith heron

[zenith heron]

is nice...

[cobalt rapids]

the template newbie fleet is more than enough to get you to oilcap
permanent gacha is a trap for newbies
even if you pull some slighlty better ships you dont have the resources to raise them
also read this
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[humble echo]

i can just use chien as tank then but how do i get enterprise

[hoary relic]

do the newcomer event

[cobalt rapids]

what hulls do u have in medal rotation

[tulip heath]

anyone can help me with w15 fleetbuild?

[nimble knoll]

How can you get a lot of money?

[cobalt rapids]

/w15 give this a read and if further help needed then come back and open a thread here and post ur dock

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[cobalt rapids]

farm oilcap like 12-4

[nimble knoll]

I'm only at w7-

[tulip heath]

aight

[cobalt rapids]

push to oilcap then
ure not making alot of gold till then

[barren tapir]

until then your best bet is event hard or war archive

[nimble knoll]

Is the research that takes cubes worth getting or is it a 'scam'?

[nimble knoll]

[eternal basalt]

Worth it if you have 1k+ cubes

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[barren tapir]

"worth" in terms of research efficiency....personally i'd never bc research ships are permanent

i'd rather have to wait a couple weeks longer to dev30 a ship than to potentially have to wait 2 years for a wife to return

[worldly pewter]

getting the 30 min researches is usually good

[whole crypt]

the only times a 30min are bad are if it's the wrong series or if you get a 0.5hr cube after you're done with ships

[barren tapir]

ik theyre good, just not worth it to me, it's why i said yes, worth in terms of research efficiency...but no amount of efficiency is worth risking the loss of a ship that's actually event limited

[worldly pewter]

what is the one that gives retroprints called ?

[barren tapir]

research isnt going anywhere. theyre permanent ships

[worldly pewter]

it is good because it will make the gear focus better overall

[barren tapir]

ik im just giving a different perspective

[obsidian ivy]

Are the FS of Felix and flandre significant upgrades or can I dump prints to core

[worldly pewter]

dahek we both are in the pops discord

[obsidian ivy]

[worldly pewter]

but anyway TBH i didn't see anyone uses them even after the FS5

[barren tapir]

theyre good ships unfortunately overshadowed by rainbows

[obsidian ivy]

Then again I don't think I have anything in protocore left to buy

[nimble knoll]

Should I use this on VV?

[barren tapir]

yes

[worldly pewter]

at some point people would accumulate prints after FS5 and nothing to buy from the shop

[nimble knoll]

What should I remove?

[barren tapir]

i'd love to have that problem

[barren tapir]

replace the sg

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[nimble knoll]

+6 the shell?

[obsidian ivy]

Looks like I'm already at that point

[barren tapir]

sure. tho u seem poor

[nimble knoll]

I have 1758 left (cuz I got a retro node on Laffey)

I truly need to get more money-

I don't even have enough t2 general parts-

[worldly pewter]

the first month is always slow for any game
aux parts are the most pain and it will remain pain for couple more months
the purple ones

[nimble knoll]

Should I disassemble some purples? (The useless ones)

[plain saffron]

gearlab news?

[worldly pewter]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II
use this for now
read the first part too

[nimble knoll]

Aight

[plain saffron]

why all comment are angry

[obsidian ivy]

Prototype FW190 fighter huh, just read the gear lab stuff

[worldly pewter]

where are u reading it ?

[wind hazel]

https://t.bilibili.com/1025214246950010917?spm_id_from=333.999.list.card_time.click
https://weibo.com/5770760941/PaLVNkjCE?pagetype=profilefeed

[blissful hamlet]

any new item in gear lab? not existing one

[molten zinc]

3 new gear: USS UR AA, KMS Fighter, HMS ASW Plane

[obsidian ivy]

AA is SSR

[blissful hamlet]

ASW plane

[blissful hamlet]

which is the new UR gear?

[obsidian ivy]

FW-190 G-3/R1 carrier fighter
Gannet ASW plane

[blissful hamlet]

are you real? UR ASW plane??

[obsidian ivy]

well maybe it'll do something else in game but apparently gannets irl were anti submarine planes

[shell willow]

isnt it the other way

[molten zinc]

It's UR tho, even in Ratto's translation

[nimble knoll]

Was it wise of me to use VV, Uni and Laffey to clear w7?

[boreal wagon]

the aa is ur the rest sr

[obsidian ivy]

Oh the AA is UR the others are SSR

My bad, man that makes it kinda meh update

[blissful hamlet]

I don't need another UR AA

[cobalt rapids]

how do u know

[frank pulsar]

is my google translate broken or are they adding 5 ur equips

[cobalt rapids]

2 ur equips
tenrai and the aa

[nimble knoll]

[molten zinc]

When translate from CN: Sea Legend ---> UR, Ultra Rare ---> SSR

That just how google work

[obsidian ivy]

These equips should make my Houston farming easier surely

[blissful hamlet]

sounds like mid update

KMS fighter is truly

[boreal wagon]

i love speculation like 4 weeks in advance

[cobalt rapids]

he alr knows the stats

[shell willow]

[forest palm]

it said Feb 20th, ya?

[boreal wagon]

yes

[atomic abyss]

Let's not assume blindly assume

[blissful hamlet]

[atomic abyss]

You're the culprit

[nimble knoll]

3 Main Ships And 1 Vanguard.. (Is it a Good Idea-)

[atomic abyss]

Horrible
Use full fleets dude

You don't have a fully levelled fleet
Why would you try to use less?

[nimble knoll]

W7 is ez tho and oil-

[atomic abyss]

^

You will need to use oil to level your ships to begin with

It's just a matter of when

[crisp raven]

but w8 might not be. or 9 or 10. then youll have fewer ships ready, so youll spend more time in lower areas just to catch up. go ham unitl w9 where youll get oil cap and not ahve to worry about oil

[atomic abyss]

Running out of oil is perfectly normal early on

/oilpsa

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804119377739776/949345167092105277/Untitled_presentation-page-001.jpg

[atomic abyss]

You don't need to save oil

[coral lava]

What is the staff of everbloom and where to find it? Should've gotten it from the monthly log in rewards but I can't find it anywhere?

[crisp raven]

its dorm furniture.

[nimble knoll]

They're already 92+

[coral lava]

Thanks! That's the one place I didn't check 😅

[atomic abyss]

Doesn't matter
Just grind

[crisp raven]

and? w9 has enemies from high 80s to mid 90s. w10 is mid 90s to 100+ why fight at a level disadvantage and with fewer ships? full fleet, level them, adjust strats if/when you get stuck. no reason to make it more difficult

[nimble knoll]

Are the other nodes worth getting?

[mellow cape]

Yes

[whole crypt]

more damage is always good, it's just less priority over modernization for Unicorn

this is a wait for refresh isn't it

[rapid grail]

when it comes to retrofits, it's recommended to fully complete the retrofit tree. Unless if the ship is Fuso, Yamashiro, Hyuuga and Ise, in which case it's better to ask out here in this case (iirc Fuso and Yamashiro basically get downgraded, Hyuuga and Ise I'm not sure. It's been 2 years since I've used any BBVs other than Kearsarge)

[nimble knoll]

I already got modernization

[whole crypt]

BBVs are still shit regardless but you're not going to be raising them as priorities, so just retrofit them for collection as you go, or maybe after you're done leveling them

[whole crypt]

so go for the remaining nodes

[nimble knoll]

Is getting Laffey's Modernization before Portland a Bad Idea? Cuz tomorrow I can Get it

[atomic abyss]

Portland's retrofit is far more important

[whole crypt]

are you modernizing Laffey at the cost of not modernizing Portland? because if not I don't see the question

[atomic abyss]

And actually required as part of the beginner missions iirc

[humble echo]

is the next banner good to bid on

[atomic abyss]

Not UR so no

[humble echo]

do u know when the ur banner is

[whole crypt]

retrofitting starter DD is also in beginner missions, it's just that Portland has higher priority because of tank stats by the time you can get to it

[atomic abyss]

End Feb at earliest

[humble echo]

oh okay i’ll wait then

[atomic abyss]

And expecting a UR rerun before May

[humble echo]

even though people say new players shouldn’t use UR i should still wait right

[atomic abyss]

You shdnt use them if they're not max stars basically

[nimble knoll]

No I am Retrofitting Portland, But I also Retrofit Laffey, and I don't have enough bps for Portland

[whole crypt]

it's not that new players shouldn't use UR, it's that you can use a fairly competent budget fleet for most of early/mid game instead of a poorly invested UR

it usually takes a while for a new player to get enough bulins for a UR so they can fall behind MLB ships over lower rarities, depending

[whole crypt]

if you're ready to do Laffey then just do Laffey first, if you had asked earlier we'd probably have recommended getting cruiser prints before DD ones

[humble echo]

oh ok

[nimble knoll]

I wasn't focusing Laffey or Portland (cuz I was still trying to get Unicorns Modernization) and now that I got Uni's I tried to retrofit Portland and Laffey, And I saw Laffey was closer to get modernization so I focused her-

[tropic tusk]

We been telling U to do Portland first for 2days man y U still debating this 😂 don't care if Ur laffey is near just Portland first man

[nimble knoll]

I'll do that tomorrow, I don't have enough coins anyways, and I'll probably get enough golds to retro Portland

[elfin hollow]

I just started playing this game, does gacha require time?

[tame jungle]

what does that mean

there is a build timer yes
you also don't get resources for pulls up front but acquire them quite quickly over time

[tropic tusk]

U can technically skip the timer

[elfin hollow]

Yes build timer.If I gacha a ship, it will take time, right?

[tropic tusk]

I don't think U can ever run out of those timer skipping thingy as long as U play the game

[tame jungle]

if you don't use a quick finisher yes

[elfin hollow]

Is it hard to get the skipping thingy?

[tame jungle]

but yeah at a certain point it becomes a non-issue entirely
and there's many people with thousands more than me

[white agate]

yeah, i have around 1000 cubes and 700 qf, if i pull on heavy i finish frst my cubes

[tropic tusk]

As long as U play the game U won't have a problem with them

[tropic tusk]

Cause it's 1 per build

No matter the timer

[elfin hollow]

I think I'm too late to play this game lol

[bold stream]

Hello all. Should I make this girl shun my first DDG? She got free retrofit material.

When do we use DDGs?

[tropic tusk]

It's never really too late

Unless U want the Collab ships, otherwise Ur fine

[elfin hollow]

I mean already 5/6 anniv right?

[tropic tusk]

I started playing on 5th anni

So just 1 year ago

[wind hazel]

#gameplay-help message

[bold stream]

Nice to meet you nero. I started playing last november! Its a chill game.

[tame jungle]

it's not like ur account is bricked just because u start now lol

[elfin hollow]

Yes,I play this game because culture thing😁

[tropic tusk]

Just enjoy the game and in due time U will catch up, as ship will rerun every now n then

[nimble knoll]

Cruiser Bps are x-2 right?

[wind hazel]

yes

[vast sparrow]

Sushi or Haku for both opsi and camps?

[bold stream]

I mean mori.. i have all those for fu shun.. but when and where do i use DDGs? I just got my anchorage and aegir...

[vast sparrow]

Revising my whole fleet for opsi and camp

[bleak nymph]

Never too late, I started casually back in 2019 and have done more in the last 4 months to catch up than ever before. Progressed insanely fast.

[nimble knoll]

Should I do 1-2 and 2-2 hm for Purple Cruiser Bps?

[wind hazel]

anti light or when you need vanguard dps

ngl you won't really use DDG most of the time

[dusty gulch]

umm did they take out commission farming?

[bleak nymph]

Still up

[dusty gulch]

which map is best for commission farm?

[ivory pawn]

I wouldn’t bother personally, unless you already have enough gold prints to modernize Portland and just need those purples.

[wind hazel]

do the highest you can...

[tropic tusk]

Do the highest hard mode U can always

[nimble knoll]

I don't have enough purples to get modernization and I got enough gold-

[tropic tusk]

Let's say Ur map drops gold bp they will also have a chance to drop purple n below

[bold stream]

Thanks. I guess I will hold on for a bit.

[nimble knoll]

But also Blues

[dusty gulch]

so no more farming commissions from low lvl maps?

[tropic tusk]

Then I guess do lower

Do gold map also drop blue?

[nimble knoll]

I need 15 purples to get to modernization.. And I only have 5-

[ivory pawn]

I’m still in favor of just farming the latest map you can do. You will get plenty of blues/purples just from farming, its always gold that will eventually be the limiter.

[wind hazel]

you aware that you can craft purple from blue?

[nimble knoll]

I got three gold already (I think the event gave em) but yeh

[tropic tusk]

He siad his missing blue tho

[nimble knoll]

Three clears (if they all drop blue) would only be 1 purple..

[wind hazel]

so keep farming

[tropic tusk]

It's normal it's not 100% drop rate

[wind hazel]

and look out for them on guild shop

[nimble knoll]

I'm not missing blue, I'm missing purples-

[tropic tusk]

But U said also blue

[nimble knoll]

Like 1 more clear and I don't need more blues, if I get a blue bp drop

[tropic tusk]

Oh ya just do the highest one and if U need blue just buy from guild

[nimble knoll]

Can I get a Medal shop Rotation link?

[tame jungle]

there is no rotation, it's randomized at the start of every month

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Shops#Medal_Shop

[dusty gulch]

So is there no way to farm gem commissions anymore? Or will low oil fleets proc gem commissions still?

[tame jungle]

the non-ship rewards are always the same too

i have 1 illegal technique to get more gems

[vast sparrow]

How's my campaign fleet? (First two) and opsi fleet? (All of them)

1. Plymouth and Haku and some ships aren't MLB and max so don't worry. I just recently revised it.

[tame jungle]

it's called swiping your credit card

[wind hazel]

c1 is the f2p way

[tropic tusk]

Looping c1 is fun

[tame jungle]

looping c1 is about as fun as watching paint dry

[tropic tusk]

It's like a gamble U might profit U might not

[vast sparrow]

Btw the campaign fleet is for 14-3 and beyond*

[wind hazel]

not good

[vast sparrow]

NAN?!

Back to the drawing board (lmk if theres some changes)

[tropic tusk]

I always want to ask what's that WiFi next to vanguard?

[boreal wagon]

sonar stats (aka asw range)

[tropic tusk]

So to see sub ?

[nimble knoll]

So I need to wait Until next month or many months after January just for a CV Ship to be in the Medal shop.. ( )

[worldly pewter]

why not 5h cat ?

[tropic tusk]

Just keep playing n no need to think till Ur world 9, as I remember Ur not where near it

[nimble knoll]

In w8 at the moment, cuz I cleared w7

[tame jungle]

medal shop ships are randomized as i said before

you can get lucky, you can get cucked

[whole crypt]

because I don't need it

[tropic tusk]

Just keep playing and don't think much about them tbh

[whole crypt]

it's not even a good pick for gear prints

[worldly pewter]

when the ship is dev30 it doesn't get removed from the D list ?

[nimble knoll]

(I just want Enty)

[whole crypt]

not when every ship is d30

face pool goes back to "normal" after you finish all ships of the series

[worldly pewter]

looks like a refresh angle then

[tropic tusk]

Wht did U get on Ur beginner mission?

[nimble knoll]

I haven't finished it yet.. (And I'm inpatient to get Enty, I was going to Use the Promise ring I had on her, but I just used it on Yk2 to complete a quest)

[whole crypt]

patience goes a long way in this game

[tame jungle]

stop being impatient

[tropic tusk]

Patience is key to this game

[ivory pawn]

You’ll get another at some point. Amusingly, you needed to oath someone to get the Newcomer’s Enty anyways, so you’d have been stuck hoping to get lucky with builds or medal shop if you had been patient.

[nimble knoll]

[tropic tusk]

Just so U know entry is gifted from the beginner mission

She's one of the few ships u can choose from

[nimble knoll]

Ik, I'm trying to speed run to get it..

[worldly pewter]

speedrun

[nimble knoll]

Is there any purple gear I have worth getting +8 (for the Newcomer quests)

[left cedar]

Is it worth it to get 60k points in the event?

[cobalt rapids]

48k for gold plates

[novel solstice]

Rainbow gear boxes are very meh -- it's just going to drop gold gear that you could have gotten from gold gear boxes anyway. So stop at 48k for the gold plates and DR prints (which are actually hard to get otherwise), and use your oil for something that's more meaningful than the rainbow box.

[forest palm]

only reason to continue the event after 48k points is if you don't have access to w9+

[left cedar]

What should i use oil for? I dont really know what to use it on rn

[novel solstice]

Push forward in the campaign; especially if you aren't to world 9 yet, because that's where it becomes efficient to level ships.

[fiery swan]

do we know when's the next event that will give rainbow bulin

[worldly pewter]

not announced yet

[cobalt rapids]

Next ur event

[ivory pawn]

Expected end of Feb at the earliest, but we don’t know when.

[left cedar]

Im still at chapter 8-1

[novel solstice]

UR bulins are only given out in UR events (not in events where the headline ship is SR), we are getting them fairly frequently, so expect one every 6-8 weeks.

[fiery swan]

what's our lineup for feb then

[forest palm]

there's no real schedule just vague guesses

[ivory pawn]

All we know atm is Blucher event next maintenance, expected early Feb.

[cobalt rapids]

13th Blucher rerun
20th gear lab update

[worldly pewter]

can we call the cruise pass an event too ?

[tropic tusk]

New battle pass coming soon there's a Ur bulin inside

[ivory pawn]

Gear lab update confirmed?

[novel solstice]

They don't announce the lineup more than a week in advance most of the time, so 🤷

You can look at the list of things that haven't had a re-run yet, and we usually get them in order. And they roughly alternate re-run/new event, so you can guess where the new stuff fits in the schedule. But sometimes they don't follow that pattern.

[fiery swan]

feb 13th is blucher rerun, not jan 23rd?

[cobalt rapids]

Yes feb 13

[ivory pawn]

Definitely not tomorrow. Just continuation of CNY tomorrow.

[nocturne glade]

any1 know how much the coin up costs for 1-30 for agir?

[worldly pewter]

10 prints per day ?

[tame jungle]

depends on how many days

[soft raft]

Gear lab update for Feb 20th
Guess that'll be the UR Event as well

[turbid marsh]

oh only 3mil, u GOT IT

[forest palm]

that or the 27th

[soft raft]

Anything new mentioned for gear lab update?

[cobalt rapids]

All gears

[soft raft]

I mean like new gear

[nocturne glade]

ah ty!

[vast sparrow]

Does Alsace have manual modifier?

[cobalt rapids]

Pr4 gear
Ur aa
German plane gold
Asw bomber gold

[soft raft]

[stray vigil]

Is this thing actually good now?

[forest palm]

not really worth the mats, it has its uses though

[soft raft]

niche af

[cobalt rapids]

Its good but only in certain situations

[stray vigil]

My u96 doesnt seem to launch her torps at the EX fight due to her position so maybe thats one of the situations? (It seems to have quite the range)

[cobalt rapids]

Maybe, does she have hull ?

[cobalt rapids]

For this EX its good either way

[stray vigil]

I heard the bidders were best in slot so i +13 some

[cobalt rapids]

situationally like pretty much all gear

sometimes 95 kai are best in slot

[forest palm]

I just don't use subs

[stray vigil]

Have pretty much every important sub in the game but i just use wolfpack, heard Gatos are cracked

[turbid marsh]

its like less than 10% difference anyways think its good

[rapid grail]

good day, are these fleets enough to beat world 15?

[cobalt rapids]

yea bidders look to be abit out of range for EX ( for top/bottom)

[stray vigil]

Just use gold type 95s?

[cobalt rapids]

if you have them yes

[turbid dawn]

This is a typical loadout for a DDG, right? Do the missiles scale of TRP? I don't remember

[rapid grail]

yea they should. Would rec a better AA gun tho

[thin nova]

is it better to use CL guns on Z23?

[cobalt rapids]

i mean the aa gun is w.e
missiles scale with trp so oxy is fine if no surv issues
and the maingun would be moggun over 100kai

[forest palm]

+10 Pom Pom is a thing lol

[turbid dawn]

Ehhh she's only levelling in 12-4 and I just stick w/e +10 AA gun I have spare on what Im levelling and rarely have an issue

[turbid dawn]

Hmmm, I thought the faster fire rate was needed ebcause of how good their AOA was?

Or is hers not very good?

[cobalt rapids]

not enough to beat moggun in dmg

[turbid dawn]

Kk

[barren tapir]

farming it was always cope, you just played the game and hope they spawn. doing low oil or low cost or no cost things that can spawn urgents is just the most effective cope. it doesnt guarantee anything by any means

anecdotally even if you play actively and do a bunch of low cost farming, expect maximum 100 gems/month at best

[novel solstice]

It became even more cope after opsi -- since you can spawn urgent comms from opsi, why are you spending your timing farming a low-cost oil map hoping for them when you could be farming opsi for useful gearlab stuff and the urgent comms are a bonus while you get the useful stuff.

[barren tapir]

well c1 is cope cos the only gearlab benefit is MAYBE increased ap (this has conflicting data)

also while gems is the ideal prize, doing more low and no costing stuff does output more cube income than not doing it, and is much more likely than gems

while my data counts the cube used on daily light as a cube income for sake of ease, apparently i have averaged almost 12 cubes/day income so far

[undone plover]

The increased AP is sth u can control tbh
At some point during the grind u will net some AP (unless extremely unlucky) and u can stop at that point
But yeah if u want to do c1 for xp and commissions then AP is more rng

[undone plover]

Did u track only daily cube? Or just overall
Would be interesting to see your comm income

[fallow sedge]

I should scrap it right?

[barren tapir]

would it not math out to an average over the long run

[barren tapir]

i only tracked cubes spent and current cubes for total cubes

[keen sable]

My average is negative and shiite

[undone plover]

It should
I just meant u might quit on a low or high
So it would be more rng than tracking it and quitting on a high

[barren tapir]

693 spent, 843 current, 1536 total

no idea about comm income

id expect a reasonably high amount, cos even discounting the daily light it's still mid 300s per month ish, far above the "guaranteed"

some cube things are frontloaded like campaign clears but that wont amount to a particularly high amount

[undone plover]

360 including everything right?
Sounds about right I would think
I think my biggest was 400+ (including daily light and trade pass)

U said 12/day so that is 360/month

[barren tapir]

11.907/day exactly currently including daily light

[undone plover]

~~Now track your gold plates ~~

[barren tapir]

let me add up my current plates rq

[fickle hollow]

what should i get from core data shop i have 1.2k rn

[barren tapir]

875 spent, 1859 current, 2734 total (including selector)

[fickle hollow]

yes

[undone plover]

U could keep for whatever reason but yeah not useful to keep dupes for general gameplay
Altho your dock space looks smol
Make sure you spend your gems on dock space and get more from guild tech

[barren tapir]

havent bought anything in opsi yet this month

[undone plover]

4-5 months?

[fallow sedge]

How much does it increase if I buy dock space

[barren tapir]

129 days looks like that CN number of 600/month is accurate

also uhh i didnt begin opsi until mid october, about 1 month after starting

[barren tapir]

10 per 200 gem

[plain saffron]

until 2000 then 300

[undone plover]

200 gem for 10 space
Guild tech gives 30 for gold and guild coins but u need to join a decent guild
We recommend u spend f2p gems on 3rd dorm slot > 2nd floor > dock space

The more dock space the better but at least u want to get 300-400 slowly for comfort

[woven star]

I think he meant guild shop... 40 at level 20

[barren tapir]

currently at 366 myself

380 once guild dock is maxed out

[white agate]

wait, i just realized; if meta ship can go to level 120 0lb why am i farming more than 5k points

[undone plover]

600 is minimum
Ideally u want to hit the fabled 800+ plates

[undone plover]

It is 30 at lv 15

[woven star]

Isn't 2 per level?

[soft raft]

well they'd still be pretty fragile and portions of their kit would still be missing prior to MLB

[undone plover]

Yeah but maxes at 15 iirc

[barren tapir]

well yeah that amount i have is including 1 month of 0 opsi and then half a month of gimped opsi as well as not buying/finishing all of opsi for january yet LOL. i expect my real number is high 700s/month

[plain saffron]

because they'll be useless without MLB

[cobalt rapids]

You dont like seeing empty stars in dock

[white agate]

i just need the tech points

[woven star]

OK thinking 20 level cap

[barren tapir]

at 30 days per month, currently 636/month with that. impossible to calculate otherwise since i didnt do more detailed data.

if we just chop off like 400 and go with 3 months ish of full opsi that's 778

[plain saffron]

for what, META pr ships?
unless you mean fleet tech

[undone plover]

Cause u generally dont want to miss out on limited stuff
Jintsuu is/was king in pvp
Anyone who stopped at 5k would have struggled a bit in pvp

[barren tapir]

does anyone wanna know purple plates/month?

[white agate]

yep, i mean stat bonus

[plain saffron]

varies a lot on how you play

[orchid ferry]

help for mob/boss fleet chapter 14

[white agate]

it depends, if an event like hvar faming comes back you will farm a lot of plates for less than usual 12-4 farm

[barren tapir]

25145 spent, 16580 current, 41725 total, 323/day avg

its largely irrelevant tho, i shouldve tracked aux plates...everything else is 3k+

[plain saffron]

Memphis META will be redeemable in the META shop after 2/1, 12:00 A.M. (UTC-7). She will not appear in Dossier Analysis. HQ apologizes for any inconvenience caused.

i'm disappointed

[undone plover]

Yeah most ppl dont max opsi first month so it will skew your data if u only divide plates/months played

On the other hand opsi explo and blue file missions will give one time plates so it should balance out in the end

[plain saffron]

hoping to get an extra new META fight 😔

[barren tapir]

cog chips is apparently 606/day for me

[undone plover]

Wait memphis was not cruise meta ?

[barren tapir]

memphis was cruise wasnt she?

[novel solstice]

Where are you farming that gives that many chips/day? It's 210 from the daily raid, and around 100 from comms, right?

[undone plover]

Sounds about right
My monthly was 20-24k

[plain saffron]

she is cruise but they accidentally said it's fight

[barren tapir]

69710 spent, 8459 unspent, 78169 current total, 129 days played

[soft raft]

EN fucked up

[undone plover]

The one time rewards will increase the average

[plain saffron]

EN copied CN fucked up

[novel solstice]

Oh, true.

[white agate]

CN did first

[barren tapir]

you do get a solid chunk from events and core data

ive been buying them since october

speaking of core data...is 3k/month pretty much accurate? there were 2 3x events so far for me, i havent gotten event 700 yet either. 12685 total atm

medals 5010 total atm but that is gonna vary wildly month to month and between players so

[undone plover]

2700/month if ch13 and disregarding one time stuff I believe

[barren tapir]

i guess events cancel out the slower start then

well if you bum rush ch12hm and then ch13hm

i dont have any more interesting stats besides 5/105 for this event bp drop

arrays is way too skewed by one time things

[undone plover]

T2 ordnance is the next big thing

[barren tapir]

oh fuck i mustve forgotten to add some gearlab craft to my sheet, sheet says i have 7 ords currently and i have 6

[undone plover]

T3? 7 in 129 days

Or nvm t2
I just read it wrong I think

[turbid dawn]

Question, is it me or is the 're-aimed barrage' from the new DDG a lot slower then the others? I was just watching it farm 12-4 and even if something is barely moving the barrage will miss, but I've never seen this on any of the older ones. Or maybe it increases speed or something when it's not level 1, or I'm just crazy idk

[barren tapir]

ok i cant find what i made or didnt make so i guess i typoed it. which means 54 used, 6 current, 60 total, about 20 per month (+ havent bought anything from shops yet this month)

[cobalt rapids]

You mean compared to ty? Coz the other 2 ddg dont have reaim
And if yes then idk

[barren tapir]

oh wait i understand what happened, i had 7 t2 ordnances when i last updated the currently held, then i made a flap, added that, but didnt update currently held im silly

[cobalt rapids]

Silly goose

[barren tapir]

damn id test but my fu shun is currently main fleet mode

[turbid dawn]

Yeah okay testing in CM with TY because bot their skills proc at the same time it seems that Fu shuns are slightly a bit slower then TYs

But maybe this is just because her skill is level 1 and not 10? But idk

[barren tapir]

hear me out its to speed her exp. current c1 fleet for harbin

[barren tapir]

could be, sometimes stuff isnt listed in the skill, wont know til it's maxed

best example i have of that is how i thought ruppy is turboshit with low skill bc her ghost gun rld is actually tied to skill lvl and very significantly, about 0.4s rld faster per skill level...so initially she is like 6s per shot and at max lvl, 2s per shot

[turbid dawn]

Yeah maybe, doesn't make much difference though ig, still a good ship since she's a DDG, just something I noticed is all

[spark ridge]

Khorovod of dawns time vs northern overture? Tryna get either SSR ship, but which is better in general? Was looking at north bc of the steam catapult but not sure if the other has anything worthwhile too

[barren tapir]

both probably meh

if you wanted a russian event archive to farm for whatever reason i feel abyssal refrain is best cos it has washing machines

[spark ridge]

So what are washing machines lmao

[wind hazel]

these

[novel solstice]

"High Performance Hydraulic Steering Gear". It looks kind of like a washing machine.

[keen sable]

high performance hydraulic steering gear

[barren tapir]

best cruiser eva gear thingy

[novel solstice]

It is something that you'll put on most cruisers most of the time, because it gives a good evasion boost which helps their survivability a lot.

[spark ridge]

Ooooh ic very useful I could def use some of them

[granite rain]

Is z52 generally considered more of a boss or mob fleet ship? I would assume boss

[hollow gust]

Both

[night totem]

Which gun would be better on mogador against light bosses? Her ur gun or twin 135mm sap gun?

[hollow gust]

Her gun is normally her best gun

[night totem]

Aight thx

[keen sable]

sap isn't even close on light

[tender girder]

erm. will there be a new banner in the new update?

[wind hazel]

no

the current Light banner will stay until 5th Feb

[tender girder]

ooo. 2 weeks from now.
and JP, CN servers are not necessarily quicker than us right? so we cannot see into the future, unlike arknights

[viscid swift]

yes, all the main servers are caught up

[hollow gust]

They rushed us so hard to catch up

[wind hazel]

is there something wrong with the game for you guys

nvm just my connection

[turbid marsh]

can confirm, but i work two levels down in the basement.

[wary escarp]

where to get the last 6 red packets, i got 19 so far

[wind hazel]

tomorrow event

[worldly pewter]

my game doesn't load correctly on each reset i have to relaunch it

[wind hazel]

yeah i think it's not just my connection LOL

something going on with the game i think

[worldly pewter]

[boreal wagon]

what are u experiencing

[wind hazel]

it's kinda losing connection

[worldly pewter]

basically an ui confusion at the start

[boreal wagon]

i meant mori abdou

[worldly pewter]

and the manjus keep bouncing

[boreal wagon]

jp is diff server

[wind hazel]

if it's working for you guys then it's just my connection

[boreal wagon]

ill check in a bit

[hollow gust]

She's working just fine

[wind hazel]

bye restarting wifi

[boreal wagon]

looks fine to me too

[hollow gust]

Smh Renhex so judgmental

[night totem]

Is fushun retro good?

On par with anshan and chungyun or better?

... Chang chun not chungyun

[turbid marsh]

a tad bit more squishy and a tad bit more damage

[night totem]

I see

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[silk helm]

if i'm cubing pr7, shoudl i skip face research?

[tropic tusk]

if ur new player y are u cubing?

[silk helm]

cuz i want the ship?

[tropic tusk]

research has nothing to do with u getting the ship

[stark quiver]

do you have at least 800 cubes

[tropic tusk]

u have to do the research grind

[worldly pewter]

i'd rather use coobs to get more ur bulins

[tropic tusk]

the cubing research is only for bp , while the only way to get the ship is grind exp according to the ship ur getting

[silk helm]

yes i have enough cubes, my question is will cube research give more prints than face

[stark quiver]

its faster

[silk helm]

H research?

[wind hazel]

yush

[silk helm]

okay thanks

[stark quiver]

a face research is 2.5 /5h
a H research is like 1h

[wind hazel]

gentle reminder that a new UR is coming soon, so don't go too hard

[silk helm]

someone said end of feb, is that right?

[tropic tusk]

yes

[wind hazel]

most likely yes

[silk helm]

kk ill stop cubing if i hit 800

[ionic bramble]

if I want to build one, who's the best ddg?

generally

[cobalt rapids]

faces are better for single ship prints
H are better for overall season progression

[stark quiver]

do you have anyone else's retro item but fushun

bc fushun is free so

[cobalt rapids]

if ure on the last 2 DRs of the season then no point taking H anymore

[ionic bramble]

I have all of them (not really, I don't have Tai Yuan's but I can buy it)

[mellow cape]

I only use cubes for research if it's the 30 min ones

[raven canyon]

who should i use the Spring Festival invitation on?

[plain saffron]

📌

[raven canyon]

nice i wanted to choose 1 of the 2 light CVs girls

[coral oyster]

how do I get the last red envelopes? I completed everything-

[plain saffron]

spring fireworks starts tomorrow iirc

yeah

[coral oyster]

ooh okay, Thank you!

[mellow cape]

Curious tho, have many 30 min ones have people gotten this pr season

I've only gotten 3

[sinful socket]

does a non max limit break ship keeps giving xp towards research when they're capped ? (4 stars level 80)

[plain saffron]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[silk helm]

of all the DDGs, whats the priority to max them

[sharp echo]

i cant find anyone that can equip this?

[barren tapir]

/missile

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

/Missile?
Where's do you get it? It comes from the "Joint Battle Mystery Investigation" event and can also be bought in the Core Data Shop.
What's the missile for? DDGs and only DDGs can equip it.
What is DDG? An Shan Retrofit and Chang Chun Retrofit only.

[plain saffron]

smh outdated info

[barren tapir]

oh its not updated. also tai yuan and fu shun

[still thorn]

trying to leave the arbiter boss map, all of my ships are crippled and I cannot fight the boss again, and I can't go through the portal to leave. I also cannot leave off the edge of the map. How tf do I get out of here?

[barren tapir]

click the big 'exit' button

[still thorn]

shit homie you right

[sharp echo]

bruh

[elfin hollow]

chat do I have to tackle higher Hard mode stages (e.g. 2-1, 3-1, etc) to get purple retrofit BP's?

[eager mulch]

yes

[elfin hollow]

I finally hit a brick wall after finishing all blues for my ships

[eager mulch]

you should be doing the highest hard stage you can anyways

[elfin hollow]

if I'm correct, it's always only three battles a day right?

[white agate]

reaching hard 13 as fast as possible to optimize core data and bp

[elfin hollow]

this should be enough for around world 4 or 5? (Hard)

or should I risk it by going all the way to 6?

I stopped at W6 (Normal) to check my ships if they can handle 7 up

[tropic tusk]

i mean u can stop when they start dieing

also retrofit unicorn please

[sinful socket]

yeah start retrofitting your ships

[tropic tusk]

and give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[elfin hollow]

currently around 80%

just stuck with lack of purple BP's

[tropic tusk]

thats y just keep pusing till they start dieing then u can stop n think

u basically can turn off ur brain till w9

just retrofit ships along the way

[elfin hollow]

so tomorrow I'll unga bunga the highest hard mode possible until my ships die

then focus on said node

[tropic tusk]

yea u can do that

[elfin hollow]

aight thanks thanks XD

[sinful socket]

the hardesst X-4 to get the carrier retrofit stuff

[hushed sorrel]

isnt chap 6 easier then hard 5? i think you can beat a few more chap

[little tree]

Is harbin a bigger priority over brest

[whole crypt]

neither are a serious priority, will probably depend on what role you need more or which of the 2 you can get ready for use faster

[little tree]

I have 1 ship to farm backline exp for brest and it will take a long time harbin I have much more ships to farm exp with.

[barren tapir]

harbin can be coined so i think she'd be first

[tender girder]

for event, i get 120 points for hard with reward sortie.
if i use my tickets, how many points would it be? since there wouldn't be any reward sortie left

[whole crypt]

I figured it'd probably be faster to work on Harbin for most people, also needs less prints coining aside

[onyx chasm]

Is she worth obtaining?

[undone plover]

depends on your cube stock

[barren tapir]

points is same

[onyx chasm]

Got 170

[undone plover]

if u have under 400 just do some dailies imo
this banner is merciful since u only need 1 cube

[barren tapir]

how much do you want her

[whole crypt]

same points but bonus has better plate and gear print drop

[barren tapir]

and coin!

[onyx chasm]

I just came back after a month or so so idk

[undone plover]

do 1 light/day and hope for the best
can do a few multi last day if u really want her

[onyx chasm]

I'm kinda lost on what to do... Should I just do campaign

[whole crypt]

if you want coin go back to campaign the only thing is good for is coping for rudder prints

[barren tapir]

unless waifu just skip and 1/day

[whole crypt]

to be fair gold rudder is probably better than most things we got to farm before for raid

[long solar]

is the new event worth farming?

[whole crypt]

if by new you mean the raid it's going for another 2 weeks if you want to try for rudders

we're not getting any new maps till we come back from CNY

@barren tapir the rates are actually pretty decent with bonus, so it's not that bad for new-ish midgamers who can do hard

plates also pretty fair, but pretty much shite XP and coins, plus no fodder drop

[barren tapir]

yeah i know my luck is just shit

[whole crypt]

there's pretty much no way you're walking away from these 3 weeks with less than 1 copy of the rudder at least if you do all your bonus hards

[barren tapir]

im currently at 5 out of 105 and before today i was 2 for 90. excuse me if i you on that a little

havent used any tickets yet granted, but base hard drop is ass

[nova crane]

how do i use fireworks?

[whole crypt]

you don't it's a minigame thing after maint

[nova crane]

so i cant do it yet i see

thanks

[whole crypt]

5 of 105 what and for 90 what

[barren tapir]

2 prints in 90 runs yesterday, then became 5 in 105 today

all boosted

[whole crypt]

sounds like you're around the ballpark then you have around 400 bonus runs including tickets across 3 weeks

non-bonus runs are just going to be absolute shit for rates anyway

[barren tapir]

depends if my past 6 day luck or my current 7th day luck prevail

if we ignore day 7 anomaly it looks like 2% drop rate

[whole crypt]

done with raid on my main acc anyway so good luck with that

[undone plover]

isnt it rly good for coin?
wiki says between 6-10/oil
12-4 is sth like 6.6 iirc

[barren tapir]

yes its very good for coin when boosted

oilwise. moralewise its shit

[undone plover]

why is it bad morale wise?
isnt it 2 morale per sortie?

[whole crypt]

that's not significantly better and you also get no ship drops so that's another cut from scrapping

[barren tapir]

coin/morale it's worse than ch12 iirc

not usually a concern but might be for some ppl

[barren tapir]

it's more or less equal to 12-1

only for the first 15, after that its hot trash unless you're a poor newbie who is cmdr and trp locked

[whole crypt]

20 if you throw in tickets

[barren tapir]

and warchive key locked, cos i think even pp sp5 is better lol

[undone plover]

well 10 is actually significantly better but on average it is probably slightly better than 12-4
and u dont rly get much gold from drops do u?
I think the CN paper has 12-4 at 7/oil including drops gold

[barren tapir]

moot since u wanna do 15(or20) a day anyway

[whole crypt]

yeh but only with bonus so it's not really relevant, that's like 20 runs a day which is like 3 runs of 12-4 if scaled for oil cost/fight count

[undone plover]

true

[barren tapir]

most efficient way to reach the point milestone

[barren tapir]

20 runs is 500 oil thats less than 2 full runs of 12-4 xd

[whole crypt]

cheap for affinity grind

[barren tapir]

15 is barely more than 1, 375 vs 317

yeah it is good and fast for affinity

[whole crypt]

I figured I could go back to 12 anyway because I wasn't capping out on sub fleet cost

[barren tapir]

its too bad the rewards after boost ends are so bad

ngl i dont get how or why anyone'd wanna go 300k+ point on this event but some ppl do

[whole crypt]

to be fair you weren't really meant to grind it excessively outside of leaderboarding

if you can kill EX you can actually make it to 60k without spending all 5 tickets every day

[barren tapir]

rudder bait

[whole crypt]

or not do like 2-3 hards each day

[undone plover]

tbh this event is probably very easy to maximize event points
just repeat 15x and rotate fleets
no need to worry about dock space and u get 1800 event points per click
normal event u get 180x3 per repeat

[barren tapir]

yeah but 0 reward

[whole crypt]

the thing is you have no place to spend the points and the milestone caps at 60

it's purely leaderboarding if you push harder than the game rewards you

[undone plover]

sure but someone grinding 300k prolly doesnt worry about drops or rewards

[barren tapir]

300k point is only 62.5k oil too and event lasts 3 weeks, u could definitely hit 1million+ if u rlly wanted to...

[whole crypt]

i.e. leaderboarding

[barren tapir]

i wonder if anyones ever gone that far...

[barren barn]

What ships use tenrai

[undone plover]

enty/yorktown
prolly enty better

[barren tapir]

thats not 1 mil, scammed

[whole crypt]

200-300k or so is roughly the limit

[barren tapir]

1m point take about 210k oil, which with some mail delivery and 3 weeks is very doable, but ofc...its dumping it down the drain

[whole crypt]

because any higher the boss would already be cleared

unless you're doing it in some really inactive server

[barren tapir]

you still get point even after boss die

[whole crypt]

you do but leaderboard is frozen

[barren tapir]

dont you?

oh well sucks i guess

[stark quiver]

I haven’t fallen out of t100 yet

[whole crypt]

raid leaderboard no longer updates after 0%

[barren tapir]

but has anyone ever done 1m and shown it on their personal point lol

[undone plover]

is there not a normal event token leaderboard this time?

[grave ivy]

Is it worth to limit break yorktown 2?

[stark quiver]

Eventually

[undone plover]

worth? yes
priority? depends on your dock and what UR u have

[whole crypt]

like I said you'll probably need some crazy dude playing on an inactive server

[grave ivy]

She is my only ur

[whole crypt]

it's possible for any server that takes over a week to clear

[barren tapir]

not entirely gph related but i wonder if anyones tried to track urgent comms bc this sorta shit really implies to me that they spawn in "waves" (this is like 100 ap of c1 only)

[whole crypt]

but in reality most servers will clear their raid in like 3 days

[undone plover]

I would max limit break her if I were u
but if u want u can wait 1 month until we know more about new UR

[barren tapir]

and i feel like a lot of the time you either get dry spells or maybe 1 comm every 400-500 ap or suddenly 3-5 comms popping up all at once

[barren tapir]

so prolly not on EN...i figure that other servers probably have more uh...servers

[undone plover]

I have also noticed urgent comms coming in "waves" tbh but anecdotal
and I never bothered to track it

[grave ivy]

Im asking bc i have exactly 3 mk3 bulins

[undone plover]

yorktown is very good
one of the top UR CV
she struggles vs heavy but u have (or will get eventually) shinano for that
if u want to wait to know more about new UR and potentially invest in her u can do that as well

[whole crypt]

for what it's worth only 1 server hasn't cleared on JP

[barren tapir]

well that gives about a week timeframe so...dumping 30k oil per day rush rush with no HELPS to help

1200 runs...80 autorepeats of 15 per day

2400 total ship morale needed per day. it'd be very hard yea

[whole crypt]

I mean you could try to ignore morale, you're looking at around 100k/day

effectively you're looking at an inactive server that needs 10 days

[barren tapir]

youd just need to have about 200 eligible and ready ships, npnp

well, interesting thought experiment. it's cool that it seems possible, and i hope i can see someone post their LB of 1m someday

[undone plover]

u probably have an easier shot at JP/CN anni
but I think 1 mil is too much
maybe 500-750k is more doable

[whole crypt]

I mean anyone who wants to do it probably won't care about the morale anyway

[barren tapir]

but those are normal events where 180 point cost at least 90 oil with uber good 1:1

i think it'd only be possible on raid event

[whole crypt]

normal events won't hit 1M because it takes much longer per clear

[barren tapir]

also that...

really only possible in raid cos low oil per points and fast

[undone plover]

u can whale oil
it is more about time

[whole crypt]

at the end of the day it's time, because you can ignore morale and buy oil

[tropic tusk]

How many times do I have to kill the boss till I get 100% in 14-4

[whole crypt]

and even time is against you, chances are if you run 1M you're probably bumping the gauge on that server

[tropic tusk]

Killed so many times still only 75%

[undone plover]

6 times

[tropic tusk]

Needs a nerf wht a waste of time

[undone plover]

tbh I think 1 million is "doable"
u need ~47k per day
u can get 180x3x2 per 3x sortie with HELP
at 20 min triple sorties that is ~3.2k per hour so 75k per day but realistically probably not

[barren tapir]

nolife for 3 week straight

[keen sable]

gosh i wonder how it would be possible for this supposed theorist to play 24x7x3

[whole crypt]

#game-feedback

[forest palm]

it is tedious

[whole crypt]

I'm not saying it's good or I like it, it's more like I don't care because there's not much to do in the game after some point anyway

[undone plover]

It is possible
But anyway this convo should end I think

[vagrant steppe]

From the Spring Festival Tidings, I have none of the ships. Should i just choose Taihou for the Fleet tech points or is there a really good option from the pool?

[undone plover]

U can check the pins for more information
The best thing to do long term is hold on to the ticket and use it to get the last ship that wont drop from gacha

[tropic tusk]

Ticket won't expire if U don't know/need just hold it

[vagrant steppe]

oh kk thought it would expire after the event. Thank you all!

[eternal moth]

Check the pins, there's a description and recommendations there

[eternal basalt]

Taihou is in most of those tickets, while the other ships are only in the CN ticket

[woven star]

I saw on reddit post about this ticket you can decide after

[trim pebble]

Am I blind? Where's the Spring's Firework Party.

[trim pebble]

Wait. It's not out yet. That's really funny.

[eternal basalt]

After tommorrow's patch, yes

[turbid shell]

whats the best fleet comp. to 1shot Queen Elizabeth META?

[cobalt rapids]

3 rainbows backline with a high dmg ( enought to kill knights ) meta vanguard + 2 other vanguards to support/dps in the fleet

[eternal basalt]

You don't want to kill all knight since that is an insta-kill to the player

[boreal wagon]

i think you forgot how QeM worked

[cobalt rapids]

something like this

[keen sable]

blast knights with a meta vanguard

[harsh yacht]

I’m in OS and I can’t kill stuff quick enough new ships just keep spawning in🥲 is there an objective I need to destroy?

[ivory pawn]

Yes.

It’s a couple squares floating around, I think the minimap marks them with a yellow !.

[eternal moth]

The red sparkles or whatever they are

[harsh yacht]

OHHH thank you🩷

[white agate]

how is it calculated the mvp when the crossfleet barrage does nearly all the damage? is it attributed to the flagship or is it the besr contributor outside of the crossfleet damage?

[eternal moth]

Highest damage ship in your current fleet

[white agate]

so its just (total damage-crossfleet damage) and best contributor to it is the mvp?

[eternal moth]

No, it's literally just "Who did the most damage in your current fleet". You're making it more complicated than it has to be.

You can see the graph of each individual ship at the endscreen

[atomic abyss]

it shdnt be the case that crossfleet does the most dmg anyway

[eternal moth]

You might have to push the button next to confirm to change from XP to damage though

[white agate]

i know just questioning where the crossfleet damage goes it should not disappear i think
from that screen i would need to do comparisons by using with and wothout crossfleet to understand where it goes

[eternal moth]

Like here, Fritz MVP'd

Crossfleet damage is shown in the total, but the total doesn't matter when determining MVP. I'm not real sure where the confusion is coming from

[white agate]

ok, i needed this thanks

[cobalt rapids]

what total

is total dmg shown anywhere except showdown?

[white agate]

i think the only way to know it outside of it if its a boss is by looking at hp before and after the sortie

[stark quiver]

Was Newcastle cm hard

And would nakh, Fritz with hvars be able to kill her

No zwei to pull in the jugs

[white agate]

source

[cobalt rapids]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/february