gameplay-help

[knotty sleet]

okey

[rigid onyx]

if you wanted to +13 a rainbow parallel torp bomber you'd do spearfish anyways

idk actually for pvp

[storm heron]

scrapping wyvern for gold plane plate is a bad idea

[knotty sleet]

only wyvern or any other equip that bad +13 for UR ?

[rigid onyx]

idt you recover plates if you scrap

[storm heron]

you get 1 gold plane plate for a wyvern

[wind hazel]

mostly just wyvern... and z flag

[stark quiver]

ew zflag

[rigid onyx]

twin 457s

[barren tapir]

well sandy is really good

[wind hazel]

457 is okay +13

not high priority but it wouldn't be a waste

[stark quiver]

i mean its not a bad investment

[storm heron]

your other options for guns are like 3 ap guns

[stark quiver]

not much, but there are a goood emoutn of stuff you wouldnt wanna use selector plates for

[bold stream]

Sorry.. i think this is only true for sandiego and z52?

Also kinda weird to see isuzu being only an elite ship topping others on AA dmg... Too bad I do not have her.

[wind hazel]

a third +13 457, now that could be a bad investment

[rigid onyx]

+13 457 kind of a waste considering it's just for pvp and campaign

[knotty sleet]

this gun?

[stark quiver]

yeh

[barren tapir]

isuzu is actually blue base

[stark quiver]

dont +13 that yet

[knotty sleet]

i see thanks all

[wind hazel]

you can totally use it for other stuff too

[rigid onyx]

if you should +13 it you should know exactly why you're +13'ing it

[storm heron]

dw you won't miss isuzu, she's bad at other stuff anyways

[stark quiver]

just /plus13

[barren tapir]

yeah isuzu was like poverty aa once upon a time, now we have juneau for poverty aa if you really neeeded one

[storm heron]

/+13

[late flame]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[barren tapir]

isuzu has better aa but is all round terrible outside it iirc

[dusk niche]

does anyone get Tier 2 EXP books? I wanna level up my ships asap but it takes wayy to long to wait for the lecture hall to produce some

[stark quiver]

t2 books are paid

[dusk niche]

oh my god so you're telling me i have to level up my ships by spamming battles and wait for lecture hall

[clever lance]

Is there a viable strat to get more blueprints from analysis to buy gear?

[dusk niche]

;-; thank you @stark quiver

[storm heron]

the most optimal one imo is to delay catchup of older PR/DRs. Say you completed fdg's catchup and you constructed your saint louis, you don't catchup saint louis, and instead just coin her until D30, then do catchup for the juicy 300*5 protocores. You can apply this strat to pr2, pr3 and pr5, or pr4 if you somehow don't need any ship from there (maybe you have guam and laffii and implac and amagi already and would like to skip all pr4 for some reason)

[hallow mountain]

I wanna farm exp for Kearsage but I haven't built any Eagle BBs yet, should I build one of them or just go for Georgia for now

[clever lance]

Got it

So use catch up last after the ship is done

[elfin hollow]

I heard someone said there’s another UR coming in feb is that true

[nimble knoll]

Is there a fast way to get a lot of purple aircraft parts?

[clever lance]

How many ships are you allowed to use catch up on for each series?

1 pr and 1 dr?

[eternal moth]

You get a total of 300 for golds and 150 for each DR

[clever lance]

K

[stark quiver]

most likely

[storm heron]

just go for it directly if you have another pr ship coining in progress, georgia gonna need the same 3 UR BB anyways. Do note that non-d30 kear is useles

[hallow mountain]

Okay

[nimble knoll]

[hallow mountain]

So who should I build

[nimble knoll]

Is avrora good? I just got her

[storm heron]

I don't know anything in particular other than just referring to this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource
just buy them when you see in guild shop, participate more in guild activities, and buy them when you can in events

[stiff bison]

why cant i dev 1 this ?

[storm heron]

what chapter are you on

[hallow mountain]

Recently finished 12-4

[eternal moth]

Because she's done

[hallow mountain]

Also I farmed it to hell for Agir and just finished her too

[stiff bison]

does she not have dev 1-5?

wait what O.o

[storm heron]

currently not so good since it's a vanguard buffer

[eternal moth]

Agir doesn't have an FS5 yet, as she doesn't really need one

[storm heron]

take pennsylvania + 2 eagle union CVs and level them in 12-1 or something

[hallow mountain]

Aight

Why not Colorado for the 2nd fleet

[storm heron]

nevada and oklahoma also good but like they will sink if you use too many BBs in campaign

[hallow mountain]

My best Eagles CVs are Enty, Esseggs, and Bataan. Still building Independence

[storm heron]

to be fair colorado and alabama is also good

independence and enty safe to 125, essex and bataan safe to 120

[storm heron]

all of them but arizona safe to 120

[hallow mountain]

Damn ok

Aight thanks

[nimble knoll]

I see

[plain saffron]

Is you can't then that means she doesn't have any yet

[nimble knoll]

Should I use high costing for hm 5-4? So I can get more gold Aircraft BP's?

[plain saffron]

Also it's called fs

[nimble knoll]

Fs?

[dusky cedar]

fate simulation

[nimble knoll]

Smh, I can't use them, sadge

[eternal basalt]

Try higher worlds - oil cap

[vast sparrow]

W H A T

[nimble knoll]

Should I use 2x oil for War Archives?

[tropic tusk]

no, unless u dont have time , but then again save them for event

war archive isnt going anywher while event will be gone in a while, not this event tho

[rotund stirrup]

How do I know which carrier will launch her squadrons first? I have Essex and Graf Zeppelin on my fleet, Essex has higher AVI and Graf Zeppelin has higher RLD, but for some reason Essex always launch her squadrons first. Problem is, Essex always gets the MVP and thus, bonus XP while Graf just kinda sit there in the back because her squadrons always come second.

[warm trail]

where's the meme channel? do we have?

[sweet delta]

This usually works when the carriers don't have RLD skills and you're not using high RLD cats

[rotund stirrup]

My Graf has higher FR but Essex still launches first

[wind hazel]

you actually should use HECLP for WA. it's the best place to use HECLP other than having no time to play

[sweet delta]

Picture?

[storm heron]

lol

[rotund stirrup]

Am I missing something here

[storm heron]

lower FR means launch first

[torn latch]

For Real

[sweet delta]

It's in units of seconds per wave

[storm heron]

since the FR is in Seconds / wave, so 26 Seconds / wave

[rotund stirrup]

How am I supposed to know 😭

So... how do I increase it then

[sweet delta]

Read the units

[storm heron]

you mean how do you reduce it? by using faster plane. Also you shouldn't be really caring about whoever is mvp at your stage

[sweet delta]

~~you shouldn't be using two full CVs at your stage ~~

[storm heron]

it's either no unicorn or 3 cv or 2 fleets too

[bold cove]

Im coin up Agir atm, where should i put her? For boss fleet or mob

[rain vine]

she works on both, just use her where you need a tank

[crisp raven]

a little late, but yes. we might. new UR events are usually feb, may, sept, and dec. if the devs keep the same pattern, next UR is in about a month. obv. they can change things, and we wont know until they officially announce stuff.

[nimble knoll]

[agile harness]

how good is this torpedo?

[crimson glacier]

i dont think its that good

[rapid grail]

pretty niche, tho it ain't worth it. pretty good for proc'ing Laffey II's USS gear requirement for another AA gun

rather use regular rec'd torps and use a high ASW bote + Hedgehog to deal with submarines

[torn latch]

Its good on laffey 2? BiS torp for her?

[bold cove]

So literally any formation thay need a tank?

[torn latch]

So that torp also best for her for w15 run as well?

[rapid grail]

no not bis, rather if you use her on content that would like the AA coverage. worlds 13, 15 and opsi bossing if using CVs should have it on her

otherwise using it is not required. this is coming from someone who casually has 3 of them at +13 enhance for a stupid reason

[torn latch]

W15 use it alright, that's what I need to know

[rigid onyx]

easier to just use a uss aux then gimp your torp usually

[rapid grail]

it's serviceable, i've done full lethal clears with it on laffey ii. would rather have the bulk and asw (at the time, pre-alsace and pre-eldkai) on her

[fallow sedge]

Other ways to get the red cards that give gems?

[boreal wagon]

fu shun minigame, an shan picture and the fu po login event

[sweet delta]

I believe manjuu gives the most bulk and is, in fact, eagle union gear

[boreal wagon]

and then an event that starts on this thursday

[summer spade]

Guys do you know any other way to get gold?

[fallow sedge]

Can you get it from event sorties?

[boreal wagon]

you can only get them from what i listed

[eternal basalt]

Currently 19 available red envelopes

[eternal pine]

what do I do when I constantly have like a billion oil?

[dreamy blade]

use it

while usually not recommended thats also a reason to take the daily commission that costs 1500 oil or w/e

[summer spade]

Maybe dorm food you can buy em with oil

[eternal basalt]

12-4 till under a billion

[nocturne glade]

oh is this one bad?

[shell willow]

yes, unless you absolutely have no time to play

[torn latch]

@sweet delta noshiro Muse jintsuu meta tanikaze best comp for Custom EX event?

Dang what should I do when I don't invest in any of them

[eternal basalt]

Use what you invested in

[nocturne glade]

guess that checks out for me then

[torn latch]

I guess at least I can copied the backline fleet

[nocturne glade]

then again, 1 hr is probs enough time to burn through energy, guess I'll stop running that one then

[torn latch]

Maybe Mogador Eldridge usable on custom ex? Idk

[shell willow]

if u just sweep 3x 12-4 you get more xp and coin, its very simple

[dreamy blade]

considering 3 runs of 12-4 without HELP is ~1k oil, yes that comm is really inefficient

[storm heron]

just manual it and use something like cleve helena ply

[nocturne glade]

yep pushing to 12 atm so I can get to 12-4

[storm heron]

one thing for sure they ain't surviving 96% on auto

[torn latch]

Hmm I'm curious why suchi use +0 ply gun on Alsace though, to play around her salvo firing rate? Secondary gun shouldn't affect main gun firing rate right?

[copper ermine]

Which would be better for Fu shun in general?

[storm heron]

just some lazy gearswapping moment

usually +0 plygun is used for normal EX

[torn latch]

What then, something like Ply/Napoli Shimakaze Eldridge?

[torn latch]

Why though

[dreamy blade]

hard to beat the purple twin 120 for cost effectiveness

[storm heron]

regular EX (not this one) reduce points if you have strong gear

[ebon verge]

does skill level of a CV in support fleet matter ?

[storm heron]

also I suggest you to setup to get the 10k points needed, you can see the mods being used above

[torn latch]

Above where

[boreal wagon]

considering support fleet has its skills disabled, not really

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

[torn latch]

Ty

[ebon verge]

btw is there a tierlist for support fleet ?

[quasi delta]

is farming the event stage for exp worth it due to fuel cost limit?

[torn latch]

Independence and sara Kai instead of Shinano hakuryuu huh, interesting

I don't remember the last time I used indep and sara Kai

[storm heron]

hwah jah retro is between nakh and indomitable

[dreamy blade]

only if you havent reached ch9+ in campaign yet

[torn latch]

Hwah jah better than lusty

[storm heron]

they don't have those

[torn latch]

Oh

[storm heron]

I am just showing you the baseline you need to get 10k (max reward iirc)

[torn latch]

Yeah sure thanks

[storm heron]

and this is what I used if you have these #trophy-room message

[quasi delta]

ohh, theres cost limit on every stage with clearing mode now

[torn latch]

Cleveland? Alright

[quasi delta]

thats kinda neat

[wary timber]

Worth making Fu Shun and Tai Yuan into DDGs ?

[plain saffron]

Yes

But do you need it, idk your status

[wary timber]

I have Anshan and Chang Chun as DDGs already and I have another missile sitting around collecting dust

[dusky cedar]

w15 fleet help

[frank pulsar]

imho tai yuan prob not worth yr time
ive used my tai yuan a grand total of once
and always used anshan and/or chang chun

as for fu shun idk abt her so no comment

[late flame]

(in my best used-car salesman pitch) of course you need it

[wary timber]

So.... which is better. Fu Shun or Tai Yuan

[tiny kettle]

In what order should I mlb? Thinking of amagi first, she's already 1lb and I got shinano

[wind hazel]

amagi, and wait for new UR

[late flame]

if you also has kazagumo sure

[tiny kettle]

Yee I do

[tiny kettle]

Alright. Is she coming soon?

[wind hazel]

maybe

[tame jungle]

probably end of february or beginning of march

[barren tapir]

i used what i had levelled and ready to go also thats manual just warning

[tiny kettle]

Nice, enough time to save some cubes. Thanks for help

[late flame]

tbh for adv challenge* i just aimed for 7.5k points and gtfo

• not gonna bother with tech boxes

[tame jungle]

chance of getting repair crane tho... ur missing out

[late flame]

rainbow crane when

[wind hazel]

tomorrow

[eternal pine]

Chat wtf should I be doing here? Which ship should I be researching?

[elfin hollow]

Does next update add spring firework party n more envelopes bc the amount of offerings in manjuu resort doesn’t add to 25

[tame jungle]

probably

[slow fox]

rare cooking

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[barren tapir]

i could totally see that working everywhere except ch15 honestly owob

i do have felix...should i max her out and try that comp in ch14 lol

[wind hazel]

it can work even w15

[eternal pine]

Chat what's the best stage to farm xp for ships in?

[torn latch]

Sounds like a masochist run

[tame jungle]

default farm stage 12-4, 12-1 also good

[sharp socket]

are you guys sure mob for 1st and 3rd boss is correct for 15-4

this is 1st boss, 5/5 ammo with subs

[jovial cosmos]

3rd UR Selection, who to get? Or do i wait until more added to the pool?

[late flame]

depends on what you have and/or need

[zenith heron]

for the medium boss fights like Soryuu META, are Torp Vaungards best against it? The DDG's? or just both FP and Torp should be enough?

[barren tapir]

youre cooked

[sharp socket]

i cant even reset for kill on 3rd boss, im missing 40 bars and 95% of everyone's hp 1min in

[shell willow]

gear issue

[jovial cosmos]

I'd get Shimakaze if i didn't already built Z52

[barren tapir]

idk whats up cos it looks like a typical ch15 fleet

[sharp socket]

the only thing i saw to change was sushi main gun

[jovial cosmos]

maybe i should just wait for more permanent UR

[tame jungle]

nah not worth waiting, just claim shima

[sharp socket]

alternatively i do 1 and 3 with boss fleet

[tame jungle]

unless you're in desperate need of UR BBs

[carmine heath]

What plane should I put on uni? Shes currently holding onto an elite Barracuda

[jovial cosmos]

Here goes nothing i guess

[barren tapir]

ideally wyvern but barracuda is good early/transitional/poverty

[carmine heath]

nod nod anom is hella poor

[tame jungle]

also thanks for reminding me to claim my UR

[barren tapir]

how cooked am i for forgetting a guild shop 💀 that's 10 gold plates lost isnt it

[sharp socket]

eld is like reset central for me so putting her main tank is gonna be hell honestly

[zenith heron]

I wonder what he lacks due to him having a Sandy and Eldridge in said fleet

[tame jungle]

10 plates isn't the end of the world

[sharp socket]

i could try that or i could try boss fleet for 1 and 3

[crimson grove]

hello can I copy some EX homework

[wind hazel]

honestly hard to pin down, experience is very different from one account to another, too many factor that can affect outcome

tech cat game rng

[late flame]

it could just be pure bad luck as well sometimes

[sharp socket]

1st super CV node brings sushi down to 30-40% right off the bat and hovers from 40-60% until boss

while i micro airstrike, possible heals, subs

[wind hazel]

dont have other vanguard option?

[barren tapir]

damn wasnt sushi uni aquila a cheat code

[wind hazel]

i'd kick off brest and let eldridge main tank and have another AA ship

[barren tapir]

where's the z52 at

would massively stacking 1 fleet and having it do most of the work be an option

[cobalt gate]

how reliable is the azur lane community tier list?

[shell willow]

yea i was gonna say something similar, idk if brest is good here cause i havent used her myself but shes low damage + musashi having 20s gun can result in stuff living longer than they should

[wind hazel]

i used her but i also have shimanto instead of eldridge

and i cant remember if i had AA radar on sushi or not

[storm heron]

this is the easy way imho

tbf I didnt have musashi on mob and I have 3 top AA on boss so maybe I'm biased

[sharp socket]

ill raise z52 if i have absolutely no other way to go about it

[shell willow]

last time i did 15-4 i tested z52 tank (for the musashi synergy), eldridge offtank

[tropic tusk]

Could I make a thread someone help me build a team for pushing w14

Need help with push w14

[formal mason]

hi guys it has been hard to progress the game when my dock slots keep giving me issues
i am a dolphin and i did upgrade to 300 slots already. initally i thought that would be a good number to sustain but how many dock slots do i actually need for the long run?
havent been playing for weeks cos of this

forgot to add im fairly new to the game

[wind hazel]

if you're a collector, 500-700 is good number

more is better, as always

[formal mason]

do u max limite break every ship u get?

[wind hazel]

the good ones, yes

[tropic tusk]

That's a late game problem but yes U can do it,as MLB ships will give U bonus overall stats

[wind hazel]

eventually i mlb even the bad ones

[formal mason]

u mean like a collection bonus stat?

[late flame]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[inner delta]

collection give you stat, at 120 also give you stat

[formal mason]

120 meaning?

[late flame]

level 120

[tropic tusk]

In stat bonus every ships gives different

[night marsh]

[formal mason]

oh its a universal stat boost?

[inner delta]

yes

[formal mason]

ok thanks. but its super expensive man if i were to get another 100 slots thats 2k gems T_T

[tropic tusk]

But that's a late game U problem , cause U can't do anything about it now

[late flame]

as a f2p thats where all your gems are going yes. forget skins unless you spend money

[crisp raven]

is it plane crash thats killing you, or are enemy subs also getting through? one hedgehog might be asking a lot, esp if it isnt +13. if enemy subs are also contributing to your damage taken, you could put an asw plane aux on uni. even consider another depth charge on vg (after the vg changes that have already been recommended)

[sharp socket]

its planes with low fps killing me

ill try a couple of things and see if it works

[nimble knoll]

What's the Best Build For Yk2 (In Terms Of Versatility?)

[crimson grove]

is there any viable gear for Hwah Jah in the shops

never mind the retrofit changes everything

[elfin hollow]

Can Chien Wu's sucking attack be dodged?

[frank pulsar]

two 2x1000lbs bomb fighters and a helldiver/tenrai
if you want bis for smth in particular then you need to provide more context

[nimble knoll]

I see, ty

[wind hazel]

havent seen it happen, i assume not

[nimble knoll]

I also wanna know, what does the skill pattern follow? Cuz before, my uni was using her skill before Yk2, now Yk2 is using hers first

[cunning bone]

which torp plane are good for like impla, amagi2, shinano, haku for bossing for opsi boss? the ju-87, the russian vit2 and the sakura saiun kai?

[tame jungle]

vit2 from pr7 and also add sakura b7a ryusei

[hollow gust]

Has anyone actually tested Soyuz Nahkimov Fritz against light?

[tame jungle]

(on top of ju87 and saiun)

[nimble knoll]

??

[tame jungle]

those 4 planes are all sidegrades of each other, with the slower ones generally doing a little more damage

[carmine heath]

Iirc those skills follow loading times you probably upgraded/changed a plane and now YK2 has a shorter loading time than uni

[nimble knoll]

I oathed Yk2 now she's faster than Uni,

[carmine heath]

probably the rld stat buff then

[wind hazel]

oath give stat buff. your yk2 has higher rld stats as a result, so faster planes

[crimson glacier]

is uni really that slow is is yk2 really fast for cv

[nimble knoll]

My Yk2 has 116 Rld while my Uni has 175-

I can send proof

[boreal wagon]

rld stat isnt the only thing that affects when they launch their planes

[tame jungle]

does yorktown2's 3rd skill also affect her own loading airstrike?

[crimson glacier]

id assume so

[boreal wagon]

it doesnt

[crimson glacier]

if thats true how is she ur

[boreal wagon]

it also explicitly says "other"

[nimble knoll]

Idk how Yk2 is faster-

[tame jungle]

ohh right

[crimson glacier]

+6 vs +10

[tame jungle]

check strike reload in gear tab

[boreal wagon]

york2 not affecting herself is also a good thing

[tame jungle]

would make syncing a pain in the ass

[boreal wagon]

because it is what makes eagle so easy to sync

[hollow gust]

They probably didn’t enhance Yorktown

[crimson glacier]

i mean its only lvl 76

you cant even have max enhancement at that level

[carmine heath]

sure but dock space

[hollow gust]

Either probably why his Yorktown has 116 rld

[boreal wagon]

at level 78 the max is 117
shes "only" missing 1 rld

[crimson glacier]

but the the whole thing was that yorkwtown was faster than uni not slower

[hollow gust]

Have you seen the plane levels

[crimson glacier]

it was literally the first thing i said so yes

[wind hazel]

💀

[crimson grove]

[tame jungle]

[carmine heath]

HVAR+13 as my first use of gold plates? (I dont even have enough to +13 it )

[crimson glacier]

i wouldnt

[atomic abyss]

very poor idea

consider how often you'd even use a HVAR compared to other planes?

i would rather you pile up gear at +10 first, and +13 according to what you need

+13 isnt necessary unless your aim is to like OHKO metas

[left cedar]

if planes probally converge TBs are the first prio

[atomic abyss]

in which then you +13 the stuff according to the boss

[late flame]

also when in doubt just hoard plates

[atomic abyss]

pretty much what esdeath said
for most people, BB HE is much easier to get going against light, it takes a fair bit of investment to get CVs going stronger

BB's even with AP cant match CV heavy

[barren tapir]

the first thing i +13ed was champy gun but yeah you +13 only if and when you need it for a particular goal you're after

[crimson grove]

thats not a bad + 13 tho

[tame jungle]

and also not a plane

[atomic abyss]

this is prime mentality

i hoarded gold plates for a very long time

[nimble knoll]

I enhanced her-

[tame jungle]

resource management lane

[atomic abyss]

i think the issue is that like
you dont need to +13 gear to 2HKO metas

[plain saffron]

we're supposed to manage resources?

[atomic abyss]

which is the goal people shd aim for in terms of bossing

i guesssssss there's harbi?
but arbi is the more important to thing to clear

[crimson grove]

okay I ask again can I get homework for advanced EX to copy

[atomic abyss]

and i dont think 1 or 2 +13 is gonna give you an extra 25% to harbi

[dreamy blade]

This is just a weaker champy gun?

[tame jungle]

sidegrade not downgrade

[lament ledge]

is san diego good without her retrofit

[atomic abyss]

isnt that flandre gun

[tame jungle]

yea

[dreamy blade]

i think so

[atomic abyss]

you'd need her augment instead then

[lament ledge]

ouh

[atomic abyss]

for her to be decent

[crimson grove]

she has an augment now? wowe

[atomic abyss]

augment at minimum, retro when you want to push content

[dreamy blade]

she is solid pre retro (with aug) but nothing crazy like her retro is

[atomic abyss]

she's had an augment for a few months already
quite a broken one too

[nimble knoll]

It's not maxed but I did Enhance her-

[lament ledge]

so do i keep suzutsuki in my fleet until i get san diego retrofited then replace?

[atomic abyss]

tho to be clear her retro is quite a good investment once you're done with the early retros

[crimson grove]

i never notice cause i read patch notes maybe twice a year
skill issue

[atomic abyss]

i'd say yes
sandy without retro and just aug is more used for her AA

[lament ledge]

ooh ight

[dreamy blade]

you may find this useful then https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/augment-modules/

[nimble knoll]

How can I do that I gear tab?

[tame jungle]

go to gear tab

and you look at the number under your planes

[nimble knoll]

On Ship gear right? Not depot gear?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[tame jungle]

yes, when everything is equipped on your ship you get your airstrike reload based on the pure stats (keep in mind that this does not take skills from ship or gear into account)

[nimble knoll]

[lament ledge]

Any advice?

[boreal wagon]

there u have your explanation why york is now triggering earlier

[tame jungle]

[dreamy blade]

yk2 and z52 arent doing much without limit breaks

[hollow gust]

Don’t use non mlb URs

[tame jungle]

we've only heard it 3 times now

[brazen tree]

What should I use my gems for? I saw some advice being to use it on dockspace and some says dorms space

[atomic abyss]

is that uni even enhanced

[lament ledge]

i alsomost have enough to mlb 1 ur

[atomic abyss]

check out /gems command

[wind hazel]

dorm 3rd slot+2nd floor, then everything into dockspace

[nimble knoll]

Eh? It didn't happen until I oathed Yk2 tho.. Cuz I was using Yk2 with that kind of planes, and she was still slower than Uni-

[lament ledge]

which ur should i mlb

[atomic abyss]

might want to do it in botspam

[nimble knoll]

Mine? Yeh

[atomic abyss]

usually, i'd say yk2
but given NJ is already 5*
might as well finish NJ

[boreal wagon]

oathing increases the rld stat, which is one of the few things that go into making launch times, so it just so happens that york2 is now faster bc of how your planes are set up

[atomic abyss]

avengers are very slow planes

[nimble knoll]

I see

[lament ledge]

ight

[dreamy blade]

(which means to replace yk2 with an mlb purple/gold ship)

[nimble knoll]

Wtf, I got three Commissions that needs level 100's.. And uni is my only lvl 100 , Also should I keep farming PP Sp5?

[dreamy blade]

yes that is a common issue once you get your first lv100 ship, solution is to just raise more ships to lv100

[lament ledge]

mlb vv?

[raven canyon]

can you upgrade the main skills of your meowfficers

[tame jungle]

yes by feeding them dupes

[raven canyon]

ohh

[dreamy blade]

ideally another cv like sara or enty, but if vv is already mlb and the others are not then it works

[raven canyon]

i never knew that crap

[tame jungle]

also check /cats in bot spam channel for some useful info

[lament ledge]

i only have akagi and vv 😔

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[dreamy blade]

this is for campaign right? what chapter are you on?

[lament ledge]

8-1

[carmine heath]

who's vv?

[tame jungle]

vittorio veneto

[whole crypt]

Akagi is 🚮

[atomic abyss]

/wiki vittorio

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vittorio_Veneto
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vittorio_Veneto/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vittorio_Veneto/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Victorious
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Victorious/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Victorious/Gallery

Jan 20, 2025, 11:37 AM

[dreamy blade]

yeah vv is fine for now then, but you might be lacking AA once you reach ch12

[raven canyon]

also Taihou worth investing in

[whole crypt]

also don't just look at SRs

[atomic abyss]

...why the fuck is victorious coming out

[dreamy blade]

only for waifu reasons

[tame jungle]

victorious veneto

[raven canyon]

guessed so

[lament ledge]

not enough lvl to challenge it tho

[whole crypt]

a fair lot of elites are recommended up to midgame

[dreamy blade]

vv is underleveled you mean?

[tame jungle]

commander level i assume

[nimble knoll]

Should I use I Aquila or Not Yet, Cuz not enough gear (unless I use some of Uni's)

[dreamy blade]

something something focus on the fleet you already have etc

[atomic abyss]

my dude, focus on your 1 fleet

i've lost count how many times we've said this already

1 well built fleet is better than 2 half assed ones

aquila as good as she is will not replace anyone in your main team because she's not levelled/limit broken/geared

[dreamy blade]

taking some of uni's gear when shes barely geared as is will not end well

[lament ledge]

no like commander level

i need 60 im pretty sure

im currently 57

[dreamy blade]

ah then yeah perfect time to spend some time leveling your fleet/new additions to it

[whole crypt]

if levelgated run event or archive

[nimble knoll]

A question, Is this needed or nah

[atomic abyss]

keep it to double line

[carmine heath]

if you have the health/healing to spare do single line for the extra 2s clear time or something

[lament ledge]

ight

[raven canyon]

is ryuuho better than Perseus

[atomic abyss]

not in any way
as a primary healer, perseus is far better (uni better still)
ryuuhou is more a secondary healer, but she is worse than every other secondary healer

[raven canyon]

i see

[white agate]

do bonus tikets for the event expire?

[ivory pawn]

They expire when the event ends.

[white agate]

ok, good

[bright tusk]

Is I shouldn't bother giving cruisers good secondary guns as most of them deal smol damage because of 75% eff?

[atomic abyss]

think about it this way

why would you reduce a ship's damage even more

[raven canyon]

do you guys know which of my IJN CVs should i invest in

[atomic abyss]

while the eff is low, do consider they have higher FP than DDs
and something needs to deal with the production types

[raven canyon]

INVEST

[atomic abyss]

invest for what purpose exactly

[raven canyon]

just to use them in my all ijn fleet

[rain vine]

amagi cv

[atomic abyss]

there's no answer besides amagi then

[raven canyon]

ye i know i should invest in amagi

im just wondering if any of the others are worth it

[late flame]

just know that faction fleet is for meme / for fun purposes ; whatever bonuses is not worth carrying bad ships

[atomic abyss]

not for anything outside tech at least

[white agate]

soryu may as well get to level 120 if she is reload 120 since she is already level 106

[raven canyon]

hm

[atomic abyss]

i guess taihou w/ aug is good but uh ehhh

[raven canyon]

her skills doesnt really look that appealing to me

but she is pretty so i might just get her leveled up just for fun ig

[atomic abyss]

souryuu is for tech

as are all the carriers there tbh

[raven canyon]

i see

oh ye do you guys think i should like use my 4 UR bulins to limit break amagi

[atomic abyss]

depends on your other URs

[dreamy blade]

taihou's distinguishing feature is being tanky...which is not super useful for mainfleet ships

[raven canyon]

well the only UR i havent fully limit breaked yet are rumey, vanguard and amagi

sad

[atomic abyss]

it also depends on what you have MLB already

[raven canyon]

whats MLB?

[rain vine]

max limit break

[raven canyon]

oh well i have yorktown II, musashi and z52

[atomic abyss]

toss up between rumey and amagi
i'd say amagi esp since you wanted more sakura anyways

[raven canyon]

ya

im about to unlock hakuryuu as well so i might be able to pair them together

[dreamy blade]

also no one really can compete with amagi's niche (anti heavy), rumey is good but there are other options for light/medium/campaign

[hollow gust]

lol there are so many people parroting Soyuz Nahk Fritz is better Eagle without context

[dawn ledge]

why i can't use it

[hollow gust]

You already did

[rain vine]

its just a memento

[hollow gust]

You spent it on graf zeppelin

[dawn ledge]

nvm got the wrong one

[dawn ledge]

yea for hindenburg tech point

[hollow gust]

The one you got is on the bottom of the gold items not top

[dawn ledge]

yea found it

[raven canyon]

who should i exchange for

[dreamy blade]

shinano

[raven canyon]

sweet

[hollow gust]

Keep getting shinano till you max her

[lethal tangle]

Is there a guide I can read for mechanics of w15?

[hollow gust]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[lethal tangle]

Thanks

[carmine heath]

Which stage was the best for xp farming again?

[rain vine]

12-1 or 12-4

[carmine heath]

time to summon 3 hq levels out of somewhere

[rain vine]

if you cant do those, highest level you can do

[glass hull]

guys is juneau retro good for w13?

[barren tapir]

poverty AA option

[glass hull]

any other ships that has high aa?
stuck at 13-3 rn

[opaque galleon]

Which ddgs should I prioritize?

[atomic abyss]

cheshire, sandy with aug (even w/o retro), z52

[barren tapir]

an shan and tai yuan iirc. suchi had a flowchart lol

don't neglect cvs with strong fighter and tb slots either, while they cant carry aa per se, they do help a lot in relieving pressure

[opaque galleon]

Where is fu shun going?

[glass hull]

oh z52?, wuts the equipment for her imma replace belfast to Z52

[barren tapir]

also ensuring air supremacy helps a lot as well

circular formation too if vg isnt being utterly wrecked. improves ability to kill planes and reduces dmg taken from planes

[atomic abyss]

sth like this, ignore the gear levels

[glass hull]

aight noted thx

[raven canyon]

how good is the new event's torp

[barren tapir]

damn someone hasnt levelled up his z52's gears

[atomic abyss]

old SS

[rain vine]

meh

[inner delta]

just use 76 blue instead of 113

[glass hull]

should i use that mag torp or this one is better?

[barren tapir]

yeah 76 blue if poor

[atomic abyss]

i mean that is better but wasted on z52

her actual torps arent great
i rather save those for something that has strong torp damage

[barren tapir]

have an upgraded gear example

[glass hull]

still need to upgrade the gold aux

[barren tapir]

toolkit works too btw, just have bubbly on her atm. i slap bubbly onto any lower lvl dd im levelling or running alongside toolkit for slightly better healing

[hallow mountain]

Is it worth retrofitting Colorado?

[atomic abyss]

while not bad, nelson is just her but better for the most part so

[hallow mountain]

im farming exp for kearsage

i haven't built any of my eagle bbs

[atomic abyss]

then you dont need to retro them

[hallow mountain]

but I want to bring her to 12-4

[atomic abyss]

even the worst of ships will survive 12-4

[hallow mountain]

[atomic abyss]

ultimately you have US CVs to carry you anyways

[hallow mountain]

hmmm true

[opaque galleon]

Btw, @barren tapir do you still need to clear katsuragi?

[white agate]

sashi and vanguard debuff stack right?
also if i am using alsace is it betteer to use plymuth,helena + valchirie dominion ship instead of z52?

[barren tapir]

nah i did it

[atomic abyss]

skip the vichiya ship

[proud turret]

Brest is a tank, yes? Is she better or worse than Anchorage?

I got them both level 125 and max limit broken-

[atomic abyss]

based on bulk alone, ancho is tankier

however brest is simply better as a mob tank due to her kit

[proud turret]

So Anchorage for boss fleets, Brest for mobs?

[atomic abyss]

if you only had those 2, yeah pretty much

[mighty jasper]

thoughts on chien wu for pvp?

[atomic abyss]

not better than existing options

[tame jungle]

#pvp better place for that
but to me doesn't seem particularly useful

[mighty jasper]

mb lol

[keen owl]

Is bubly boily chef good?

[tame jungle]

it's a good option on destroyers as a substitution for a 2nd purple toolbox

[keen owl]

Thnx

[zenith heron]

the Gold IJN twin 100m could too if you want a bit of damage and fast fr

Unless it isn't recommended

[atomic abyss]

not even 100 kai beats the 113 for z52

despite the sizable gun eff

[zenith heron]

just trying to compare it to the poor 76 bcs that Coefficient slot is so high, but since its a poverty gun. its doable to me but questionable to some

[left cedar]

52 rely on her barrage more than her own gun dmg ... also iirc she is 1 MGM, wut makes even more reliable on her barrage

so no, u wanna fast gun
Twin100 kai is 0.2 or 3 slower ... so less dmg in general

[atomic abyss]

she isnt mgm+1

otherwise her gun eff would be way less

[left cedar]

i dint say +1

i wanna mean, she only have 1 gun ...

[atomic abyss]

ah right i misread

[left cedar]

i do that all the time, so i cant even joke about it

[zenith heron]

I never knew its like this on mgm+1

[atomic abyss]

look at the DDGs

[zenith heron]

oh, good point

[atomic abyss]

pre retro

post retro

[carmine heath]

what does mgm affect/what does it do?

[atomic abyss]

mgm stands for main gun mounts

in simple terms
think of it like BBs
you have 3 rounds of shells right?

so that's 3 mgm

for every time you fire your main gun once, you have an additional 2 rounds that fire afterwards

[zenith heron]

its probably there for balancing issues, that is why its efficiency is lowered per gun mount

[atomic abyss]

we also call that mgm+2 since it's additional 2

even the BBV retros are the same

their main gun efficiency increseases when they lose their gun mount

there ARE exceptions though

[shell willow]

sandy?

[left cedar]

on a simple way to put in practice
for every +1 MGM makes ur ship fire the gun one more time
more mounts means more dmg in practice
but each ship have they on kit

[zenith heron]

now that you mention this, I wanna specifically talk about Richie

Does she really only have 2 MGM? or is it her skill? Never had her so I just wondered right now about it...

[left cedar]

some kits are weird, and the kit can be more inclined to barrage or gun, so check it here first to know how to build it properly

[barren tapir]

tbf we have a dd with mgm+1 and 130% eff

[nimble knoll]

Is there a faster way to get Gold Aircraft BP's? (Other than hm and allat)

[barren tapir]

but that's the highest im aware of and she's kinda an exception i think (her sister is 120%? iirc)

[boreal wagon]

early preloaded BBs have less mounts cuz they probably wanted to keep it balanced

[atomic abyss]

with the exception of alsace and flandre, all french BB/C have 2 MGM due to their preloads iirc

[boreal wagon]

champy only has 1

[atomic abyss]

and they usually have higher gun eff to compensate

[zenith heron]

[atomic abyss]

right i forgot champy lol

[barren tapir]

[boreal wagon]

there are a bunch of exceptions to any "general rule" you can formulate

but thats just because we have 700+ characters

[barren tapir]

yus yus

[zenith heron]

sadly I don't remember every ship's efficiency, but definitely sure this isn't Mogador

[nimble knoll]

Is there a way to change the commissions? Cuz I can't do them.. Because I need level 100 ships and the only lvl 100 I have is uni.. And all of my commissions need a lvl 100-

[plain saffron]

unfortunately you need to get more lvl100 ships, can't change them

curse of 1 lvl100 ships

[nimble knoll]

So I literally can't do commissions for the time being..

[barren tapir]

also damn mogador is also 130% i didnt know LOL nice

[plain saffron]

that's why i prefer having many ships in around same lvl

[zenith heron]

I think those are the ones with cogs, if you don't have any lower, you have to wait basically at reset, or even the urgent ones, unless I might miss something

[barren tapir]

so i guess we have 2 dds with 130% x2, but only one is UR

[white agate]

my tipical day with commissions is, i need to level up a ship and that ship is doing a 8h commission

btw how much would it be the delay if alsace reload time is 20s due to firing a preloaded barrage at battle start, like 0.5s so 2nd barrage is fired at 20.5s?

[dreamy blade]

[nimble knoll]

Guh

[plain saffron]

just do those, wait i'm dumb

[zenith heron]

yeah, you really gotta wait till reset, or when those urgent commisions come

if you don't have lvl 100 ships available

it only needs 1 ship to be lvl 100

[boreal wagon]

roughly 0.033s because she can hold 2 charges

[nimble knoll]

I managed to do one (cuz it didn't need a lvl 100) now all of them need lvl 100-

[plain saffron]

go farm them do urgent comms

[nimble knoll]

When?

[barren tapir]

someday youll be very happy about this, but as a newbie it is painful...

[plain saffron]

0000 utc-7 but make sure you're offline when it reset

or you'll be stuck with those a bit longer

[nimble knoll]

If I can replace Uni for the meantime then I would do it.. But I don't have any other good healers (except Aquila but she's Underleveled as fuck)

[plain saffron]

just let it not running

[atomic abyss]

just wait for urgents

[plain saffron]

do when you done farming

[barren tapir]

run them when u need morale break

or run them while doing any content where you dont need uni (once strong enough, event hard should be fine without uni)

[nimble knoll]

[plain saffron]

what is dossier analysis again?

[atomic abyss]

no

[boreal wagon]

permanent metas

[barren tapir]

the way to get old meta showdowns

[white agate]

weekly meta

[plain saffron]

memphis is gold?

[boreal wagon]

no they did an oopsie

[atomic abyss]

typo from CN

[plain saffron]

ok good to know i'm not crazy

[zenith heron]

well shit mb

[nimble knoll]

God zammit.. I just needed 3 more to finally Retro Uni

[atomic abyss]

do another HM 3* then

[plain saffron]

pray for guild shop

[barren tapir]

do 2 3*s

[plain saffron]

there's medal shop but expensive, not worth it

[nimble knoll]

I checked and rerolled.. Sadly nothing-

[nimble knoll]

Already used it all to do 5-4 hm (got one retro gold, but I used it to get the previous node to get to Retro)

[barren tapir]

id actually argue its worth it if you got bulins+speccore already and it's specifically uni retro cos to me she is that worth it...but otherwise yea

[tame jungle]

just wait

[white agate]

anyhow someone has an idea about this? how much would it be the delay if alsace reload time is 20s due to firing a preloaded barrage at battle start, like 0.5s so 2nd barrage is fired at 20.5s?

[tame jungle]

iirc alsace has a 2nd salvo in reserve so it doesn't actually impact her reload

[boreal wagon]

idr how the game does preloads but it is either 0s or 0.033s (self-jam)

[atomic abyss]

there's like 2 BBs that can hold BB salvos iirc

[sharp echo]

should i buy this? or save?

[atomic abyss]

one is als, the other is gascogne

[white agate]

you got her item?

[atomic abyss]

if you have her retro item buy
otherwise eh

[zenith heron]

get her if you have said Item

[boreal wagon]

well gas does effectively work the same way as any other BB tho
because she loads both at the same time

[sharp echo]

what item?

[white agate]

the one not in the shop and that will rerun in july it's like a battery

[sharp echo]

oh resource to retro?

[nimble knoll]

Should I retire some Elite Ships? (dupes, or Nah?)

[sharp echo]

no i dont xd

[tame jungle]

then it can wait

[sharp echo]

[barren tapir]

buy gold bulins as a newer player '

[barren tapir]

use dupe to limitbreak otherwise sure scrap

[soft raft]

Uh
If the game forcibly resets while doing a EX run using the ticket, would that eat the ticket?

cuz I just glanced at my phone to see a black screen while grinding thru the tickets

MOTHERFUCKER IT DID-

[primal silo]

[soft raft]

[nimble knoll]

Does Laffey only have Retro and nothin else? (Like another version or smt?)

[soft raft]

she has a unique aug but that's not really worth it considering how easily she's replaceable

There's Laffey II but that's a sepreate ship, not the same as regular Laffey

[nimble knoll]

I see, thanks for the info

[obsidian ivy]

How much la9 did you guys have by the time you finish PR7? I had exactly 1.5 la9 and felt it was a bit low(?)

[knotty dome]

i have enough pr7 rainbow prints to dev30 napoli and nakhy
i dont have an immediate use case for them
i'm thinking i could save them and get more napoli/nakhy grant donations, so that in the far future with pr7 fs5 i dont have to come back to grind. but at the same time agir hasnt even had fs5...
if i use them i could dev30 pr7 faster but i dont have an immediate use case for those either
any suggestions?
addendum: i have 31 agirs and 28 rainbow pr4 so if agir fs5 comes out i'd have to grind, i guess i could save my rainbow prints and use them for lower pr fs5s as necessary and just save them for now?

[turbid marsh]

think i almost had 2 la-9 when i finished pr7. I always do q and e before using cubes/Gs.

[cobalt rapids]

aegir is coinable

[knotty dome]

what should i do with my prints then? if the pattern continues, dr fs5 should be coinable, so i should just use the prints?

[cobalt rapids]

feel free

[knotty dome]

ok, just needed the sanity check. thanks

[cobalt rapids]

some people might cope for more gear prints with unfinished ships but

[knotty dome]

how does that work?

[cobalt rapids]

less face projects

theoretical higher chance to roll gear projects
its just a theory because we dont know exactly how projects are rolled

[knotty dome]

almost sounds like superstition

[jaunty blaze]

Watch better guns BB from elite? If I don't have super rare guns

[turbid marsh]

use it for the essential ones you gonna use, and save for others? it really doesn't make that much of a difference as long as you manage to log in every 8 hours to do the research stuff from now on. me think.

[jaunty blaze]

For begginers

[turbid marsh]

mk6

[cobalt rapids]

it is till proven

[jaunty blaze]

Is Bismarck suitable too?

[cobalt rapids]

suitable for ?
bismarck is not really an ideal starting bb
give the newbie tips from guide compendium in /guide a read if u havent alr

[soft raft]

Hopefully you didnt get that Bismarck from Medal shop

Cuz Hood is right there and wayyyyy better

[turbid marsh]

oh my god i thought you were asking for what purple equipment to use

[tame jungle]

me too tbh

[jaunty blaze]

That's what I'm talking about:_

[soft raft]

I think he was asking more like if it's a good gun for her

[jaunty blaze]

No i dont get from Medal

[sharp echo]

usually for event SP stage, how many level need to beat it? 120?

[jaunty blaze]

I m just little bad English sorry,my bad

[cobalt rapids]

like 100+

[soft raft]

At the bare mininum the same level as the enemies

lvl 120+ just makes it easier to clear it with less ships

[turbid marsh]

yeah just use mk6 406mm... very standard gun

[sharp echo]

huh iswear i cant beat previous SP stage with 115

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur gear and ships aswell
also if ure one fleeting or not

[jaunty blaze]

okay thank you

[meager tiger]

What gear were your shipgirls using

[sharp echo]

mostly purple gear +6 tbh

[cobalt rapids]

~2 fleets of lv100 + girls with decent poverty gear are enough

[meager tiger]

Hmm, skill lvls?

What ships are also in it

[sharp echo]

helena max, uni max z23 max except the retro skill

[cobalt rapids]

try to +10 ur offensive backline gear>offensive vang gear and ur vang surv auxes

[meager tiger]

Which ships is your fleet made of

[sharp echo]

the escort enemy was easy, the problem start when bossing. my ships take alot of dmg

[cobalt rapids]

are you onefleeting?

[meager tiger]

One fleeting is not a good idea on SP

[cobalt rapids]

fighting out of ammo SP bosses isnt great

[sharp echo]

oh? out of ammo increase dmg taken?

[rain vine]

no, but you arent dealing as much

[meager tiger]

Decreases DMG Done by fleets

[cobalt rapids]

no but it decreases ur dmg dealt by half which means u spend twice as much time in the stage

[full shadow]

Hellp, can somebody help me build a fleet, please?

[sharp echo]

yeah i only have 1 fleet that is above 100

[whole crypt]

you do half damage so fights take much longer, particularly boss encounters

in the extended time you take to do the fights damage accumulates

[tropic tusk]

think of out of ammo as in ur tired from the day and ur forcing ur self to fight , so therefore u do less dmg

[meager tiger]

First of all, Limit break your ships

Try to grind levels for your ships

[cobalt rapids]

penny unicorn li - portland helena laffey
try to replace li asap

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[sharp echo]

so making 2nd fleet should fix my problem on sp then? omw

[tropic tusk]

2nd fleet is mostly for boss only as u will want ur fleet 1 to clear all mobs

[whole crypt]

he's not even at a level to LB

[meager tiger]

Shit didn't notice their ships level

[cobalt rapids]

and he is using stuff like gasco muse which are a waste of gold purins

[tropic tusk]

cause some ship only have bonus effect on their first fight

[sharp echo]

yeah, im gonna use my low fleet for mob and save the strongest for boss

[whole crypt]

this isn't really a thing
what you want is a fleet with 4-5 ammo for bonus damage and also going into a fight without damage

[echo vector]

Do we have item collection list for noshiro's private dorm yet ?

[tropic tusk]

i saw a ship (forgot which one) and i has a effect that says its first battle? unless im reading it wrong

[whole crypt]

you probably were

there are some effects that only happen the first x fights for some ships, but none of them is only the first one

[tropic tusk]

i know some has effect as long as theres ammo

[whole crypt]

it's the ammo bonus you're after

also, like I said, no accumulated damage

[woven star]

and better at the start using heal ships until they no needs

[full shadow]

Thank you. I just started.

[whole crypt]

absolutely read the newbie guide and avoid shiny trap

[meager tiger]

What's shiny trap again?

[whole crypt]

using high rarity garbage and wasting resources on them

[woven star]

mu-version ships?)

[whole crypt]

high rarity ships cost more to LB and high rarity gear costs more to enhance

to make things worse you very easily run into high rarity junk in early game that's a complete waste

[meager tiger]

Is the triple 460mm Beehive still trash?

[whole crypt]

that's twin 410 and it's still trash
triple 460 is rainbow and AP

[novel solstice]

Prinz Eugen is the best example of the shiny trap -- you're much better off sticking with portland for tanking, as she's better at it and also cheaper to raise.

[meager tiger]

Oh shit right I forgot it's the 410

[runic lagoon]

Do we know if there is gonna be a UR event within the next few months?

[forest palm]

Portland is not better than Eugen at tank lmao

[reef flume]

February

[meager tiger]

Retro?

[whole crypt]

Portland is tank enough while doing slightly better damage than Eugen and costing less

[forest palm]

Portland largely gets recommended for how cheap she is, and servers as a baseline for acceptable bulk

[whole crypt]

if only counting durability Eugen is better, but she's also more expensive, the durability is overkill, and you do less damage while doing it

[woven star]

btw why Portland better Eugen? cheaper?

[whole crypt]

cheaper, durable enough and does more damage

[forest palm]

yes, cost is the main reason

as an early game player the bulins should be going more to the main fleet than the vanguard

[whole crypt]

also game asks you to raise her anyway for beginner missions, so why not

[tropic tusk]

wait can i auto run maps without 3 star?

[woven star]

Eugen have +1k hp and less 20 eva... other almost same

[tropic tusk]

3q

[turbid marsh]

(and defence order but we dont talk about that because its 25%)

[forest palm]

Portland has no skills essentially so~

[whole crypt]

100% unlocks clearing mode

[tropic tusk]

oh i still need to 3 star then T-T

[rain vine]

you dont need to 3*
3* and 100% completion are different things

[whole crypt]

100% is not related to 3-starring

[tropic tusk]

oh wait i read wrong mb

[woven star]

Ok, as for facts I'm not used Eugen as a tank same as Portland at the beginning. I raised Portland because newbies mission ask for it. and as for start Laffy was best choice in front line until something drop better

[tropic tusk]

nice just need 100% no need 3 star then

[whole crypt]

in their completed state Eugen is roughly 120% Portland durability
again the issue is initial costs for a new player, DPS and beginner missions

[forest palm]

damage isn't much of an issue though

[whole crypt]

in their incomplete state of course Portland will fall behind a bit, because a bunch of her durability is going to be from her retrofits, which is also locked behind levels and LB

[knotty dome]

wait sorry followup on this earlier question, there's not really a point to get more dr prints now then right? so i only need to do the raid event up to 38k points?

[tropic tusk]

it doenst affect dorp rate right?

[forest palm]

more prints is more protocores if you're not into pre farming F5 prints

[woven star]

newbie needs to rise some ships to lvl 100 like Laffy or Javeline and Portland and this will be a cap of this ships on that moment

[knotty dome]

tbh what is the point of stacking more protocore? i have 11k and just bought the pr6 gun prints, the rest seems kind of useless

[fluid umbra]

What gear should I have on AvP for timing?

[whole crypt]

have you bought Tenrai and q152

[knotty dome]

yes

[whole crypt]

sounds like either you're "caught up" or just spent a lot of time in a series you should have left long ago and ended up with too many excess prints

[knotty dome]

after like only a few months of playing you never really run out

[forest palm]

I just pre-farm F5 so it's just out of the way

[white agate]

you want her to strike 2nd and for the other 2 to be withnin 0.2s from her

[cobalt rapids]

good planes for what ure fighting against that fit the timing

[whole crypt]

you definitely run out of prototype cores unless you overstay your welcome with a single older series

[fluid umbra]

What gear is acceptable for timing

[white agate]

it depends, on who you use with her

[fluid umbra]

Shina amagi

[forest palm]

longer you play though the more you stockpile excess prints from researching

[whole crypt]

it takes more than a few months to be caught up with research and generating excess print for cores

[knotty dome]

how? only the ur equip prints are worth buying, the otehres are all old season stuff

[whole crypt]

PR3 you want for champagne guns, PR4 you want for BFGs

[cobalt rapids]

it takes catching up on all season and gear farming the latest season to start gaining protocore again which like 1-2 years

[whole crypt]

and buying 3 pieces of rainbow gear is already 9000 prototype cores, you have to have been analyzing a lot of prints to get there, which means you're not building new research ships

[knotty dome]

it only took me a few months because i started playing near the end of pr4, so it's probably longer now i suppose

[cobalt rapids]

its always pretty much the same
since theres 1-2 season with no catchup, 1-2 season with catchup with no coining , and the rest are coinable

[whole crypt]

well from end of PR4 to now is not a few months is it, and you don't need to buy a lot of the older stuff that newer players now who're really only a few months in need to

[white agate]

i think i use helldiver purple, ryusei vit 2 on amagi
f4u, helldiver purple, ju-87 and manju(for reloading time adj) on avp
saiun tenrai ryusei on nano

[fluid umbra]

ok I'll try that

[white agate]

you can use this for seeing the timings https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[ocean shuttle]

Breguet & Wyverns in all TB slots for W13+ yes?

[whole crypt]

if you can afford it, but barracudas are fine

[ocean shuttle]

Barracudas have no intercept tho

If intercept didn't matter, i'd just go with skypirates where i didn't have spearfish/wyvern

[whole crypt]

if you have enough Breguets and Wyverns sure go fill those slots, but we beat ch13 long before TB interception existed

[cobalt rapids]

assuming you met your stagger needs for 13 and 15

[elfin hollow]

I finally limit broken all ships of my fleet 1

Should I focus next on grinding for gold gear?

Not yet retroed because I'm struggling with purple and gold BP's

[forest palm]

we used to clear world 13 with Barracuda, and Gold Corsair just fine back in the day 👏

[ocean shuttle]

stagger? also ty

[whole crypt]

gold gear != good gear, refer back to gear guide

[cobalt rapids]

stagger meaning your main fleets are desynced between each other which is ideal in campaign for better dmg uptime so you wont throw 3 launches/salvos at the same wave and then have ur mainfleet afk on the next one

[ocean shuttle]

ah, makes sense, ty

[elfin hollow]

Aight would review ❤️

This discussion about staggering I've heard this in ECGC. Should I start investing on one? I have enough of those core data for the purple one

[keen sable]

no? what purple one

[whole crypt]

you don't "invest in staggering", it's just varying your gear so that your main fleet doesn't all attack at the same time

it's also not that important until much later

sometimes just the ships themselves already give you enough variance in salvo/launch times

[wind hazel]

think he meant buying homing beacon, which isn't really needed, but nice to have. but also not a priority

and elite manjuu

[elfin hollow]

I'll start to push through world 7 and up until now, I could auto battle in peace thanks to unigoat.

I'm hitting 9.5k fleet power both front and back. Level 90-ish average each ship

[wind hazel]

forget about fleet power

[whole crypt]

Fleet power is a useless metric™️

[elfin hollow]

Reminds me of getting baited into exercising against 3k fleet powered players only to get whacked by a lvl. 125 laffey

[whole crypt]

yes, fleetpower is a useless metric

[elfin hollow]

Just lost again to a yukikaze and long island.

Yep. Useless metric 🥲

[whole crypt]

early game you're just looking to slam into high leveled fleets for XP, and getting some merit out of it in the process

if you find an opponent you can win great, if not then whatever

if you're so inclined to care about your win rate then just skip PvP until you can form something that resembles a capable PvP fleet, but that's a pretty big waste

[runic lagoon]

If a ship is max level, does the exp count towards the shipyard research?

[silk helm]

goals for feb

1. 125 yk2, tai yuan, fu shun
2. mk7 from opsi
3. d30 brest (20 prints away)
4. coin haku to fs5
5. cube pr7, d30 naki
6. attempt 11-4

anything i should add?

[atomic abyss]

7th wyvern sounds incredibly silly if you're only at w11 tbh

[silk helm]

rlly? i swear someone here said to get that many then do the triple 406...

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

Uh

The recommendation for wyvern is 2-3

Not 7

[soft raft]

You should've stopped at like 3 max

[silk helm]

whats after wyvern, the bb gun?

[fluid umbra]

Is this good or bad, I don't understand.

[atomic abyss]

Mk7, 100 Kai and UR AA

[soft raft]

who the hell even told you to get 7 in the first place
Imo 100 Kai and UR AA first before the Mk7

[silk helm]

luckily already have the UR AA not from selector 😄

[soft raft]

It's not saying she's good or bad, more like her plane setup will vary depending on who she's being sortied with due to timing purposes

[turbid marsh]

why taiyuan fushun? interseeted in 1:1?

[fluid umbra]

No I meant is the timing good

[silk helm]

yeah, i need to 1:1, i got screwed over when farming hvars. learned my lesson

[soft raft]

In OpSi yes it is good to have timings adjusted to sync
Outside of OpSi, no

[fluid umbra]

Eh, why

I'm using this fleet to fight meta boss

I guess i also use it in opsi now that i think about it

[atomic abyss]

The timings could be closer but

[soft raft]

META Fights fall under the cateogry of OpSi

[atomic abyss]

It should work

[fluid umbra]

Okay, slow/stop should always go second right?

[atomic abyss]

Ye
I mean ofc do test it out but it shd work for meta given the sync view

[fluid umbra]

Tysm

Looks decent, it synced perfectly

[last swift]

help with the fleet

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[hoary relic]

Does San Diego worthy to retrofit?

[stark quiver]

eventually
shes good without it for now, if you have other prios

[hoary relic]

So can she replace Helena? If so i'd invest in her for mid game

[atomic abyss]

no

your retrofit priority should always be unicorn

[soft raft]

she does not fufill the same function as Helena

[hoary relic]

Im working on her rn, no worries

[atomic abyss]

and for new ish players, helena remains a main stay of your comps
she doesnt really have a replacement

[hoary relic]

So keep focusing on helena and unicorn ?

[atomic abyss]

helena retro is low priority
but yes investing in her levels is definitely recommended

[hoary relic]

Ight copy that

[stark quiver]

unicorn > portland > starter

[hoary relic]

Well i just need some exp books to boost unicorn's lv, already maxed limit break for both helena and unicorn

[cursive crane]

maybe guam can replace san diago？im not very sure

[stark quiver]

no?

[turbid marsh]

as an aa carry sure, but eventually you want to have sandyretro cause you can't split guam in w13/15...

[hoary relic]

I have helena and portland for vanguard, who should i use for the last slot?

[wind hazel]

your DD starter

[cursive crane]

thats true

[turbid marsh]

also sandy retro + ue has good barrage and on sea damage, with decent asw and team boost aa so she shines right at 12 all the way to 15. But, I firmly believe she not so high priority for new players . maybe when you reach like w9-11 you should start to work on her.

[spice phoenix]

would these fleets clear W14?

[cobalt rapids]

maybe but u can do much better

[spice phoenix]

like?

[rigid onyx]

3bb for campaign is inadvisable

laffii in middle position makes no sense

[cobalt rapids]

percy -> unicorn
swap ply and eldr to mob and aegir and unzen to boss
replace 1-2 UR bb in boss with a good cv

[spice phoenix]

thanks

[glass quest]

what fighter do I use on Kearsarge? hellcat hvar?

[soft raft]

depends on the content
just has to be either American or Russian

[cobalt rapids]

hvar la-9 depending on armor
other options for sync

[formal zenith]

Is there a good healer for Eagle Union?

[sweet delta]

No

[atomic abyss]

there are healers but none of them are good

[formal zenith]

Not sure I wanna level a crap healer for the sake of faction fleet

[soft raft]

Insert obligatory "Faction fleet bad" statement here

[atomic abyss]

just make your eagle fleet your boss fleet if you really want to make a faction fleet

[formal zenith]

True

Is it just me or is Helana's damage super terrible

[atomic abyss]

well not super terrible
but it is meh-bad

she's not meant to be a DPS after all

[formal zenith]

Is she REALLY worth the buffs?

[cobalt rapids]

most definetly

[atomic abyss]

when her skill procs, every other ship gains 40% damage

[cobalt rapids]

which is super amazing

[atomic abyss]

and that 40% damage is basically a flat 1.4x their original damage

with that said

[left cedar]

Should i retire the SRs i dont use?

[atomic abyss]

if your priority is to have your frontline live you may need to consider more carefully, i.e using eld retro to keep helena alive better

[cobalt rapids]

u might want to get their 120 tech first
and prob retire easier to re acquire ships before srs if ure struggling for dockspace

[atomic abyss]

or skip on helena entirely
which is necessary for end game maps

[formal zenith]

I don't have Eldridge yet. Anchorage is taking slightly more damage than Helena but only cause Anchorage is 120

[atomic abyss]

naturally, the tank is meant to take more damage

[crimson glacier]

yo ender i want your opinion on offtopic

[atomic abyss]

i think you should stay there more

sure

[jaunty blaze]

Pom Pom Gun good AA?

[atomic abyss]

nope

[jaunty blaze]

ок

[atomic abyss]

if you lack golds stick to twin 113 and quad bofors

[jaunty blaze]

ok thanks

[formal zenith]

Quadruple 40mm has served me well

[sweet delta]

so there is super amazing > amazing > great?

[dire burrow]

Best fleet for new events ex fight?

[cobalt rapids]

ex or advanced?
most decently leveled fleets can do EX

[dire burrow]

O sry advanced

[cobalt rapids]

3 rainbows anti med
some tank helena and some other tank like eldridge for abduction

[left cedar]

Not rly struggling, i just want some medals to buy retrofit resources for my portland

[eternal moth]

Medals are a pretty inefficient source for retro BP

[cobalt rapids]

and u should get medals by retiring dupes that arent needed for mlb anymore
single copies only if ure strained on dockspace

[eternal moth]

Are you doing hard modes every day? Don't forget that you can turn blues into purple

[left cedar]

How do i get those purple cruiser retors then? I cant do hard modes anymore

[eternal moth]

You do hardmode x-2

[worldly pewter]

u did helena before port

[left cedar]

Arent both good?

[eternal moth]

Yes, but Helena's one of the lowest-priority ships for retro

[left cedar]

Oh ok

Whoops

Should i retire those then? The SRs, idk if theyre even good

[cobalt rapids]

.

[left cedar]

what should i do with them?

[cobalt rapids]

leave em be till you eventually decide to level them

[worldly pewter]

albion is in the perma pool now ?

[eternal moth]

Typically I'll give any new ships a couple of XP books to get them started, and then just let comms start giving them XP

[left cedar]

Why should i lvl random shipsbup tho?

does it give anything?

[eternal moth]

Fleet tech

[left cedar]

Whats that

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki fleet technology

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[plucky basin]

Mr vo

[keen sable]

you shouldn't. you don't even have 12 leveled ships yet much less 6

[plucky basin]

Fleet tech

[left cedar]

Could someone help me with gear for my fleet?

Gear help

[uncut wren]

Is the re a guide for chien wu equipment?

[cobalt rapids]

standard ca gear

[uncut wren]

Thanks a lot

[woven star]

Btw @left cedar have Prinz Heinrich so Portland can be the second choice or for second fleet tank

Heh I-13 I want it for collection. Is this ship only drops during event?

[sweet delta]

/wiki i130

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

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Jan 20, 2025, 7:34 PM

[worldly pewter]

the only ship that has a tech that benefits only that ship

[woven star]

2019 and 2020... hmm, maybe another rerun

[stark quiver]

war archive

[woven star]

Dam carrier submarine... wonna

[night totem]

Can i do a stronghold with these stats?

[worldly pewter]

ships become permanent in 2.5 years so most likely i 13 is perma now

[stark quiver]

assuming decent ships yes

[night totem]

Aight thx

[woven star]

Kawakaze from WA

[stark quiver]

oh yea, special pool

[worldly pewter]

u get it from cv ur events now

what type of banners shimakaze and unzen was or were ?

i mean special or heavy

[woven star]

I think UR pool choice

Idk about unzen but shimakaze there