gameplay-help

[barren tapir]

i feel like i got most of the work done for anchorage points just by playing normally and progressing to ch12

[rigid onyx]

i mean im looking over that sheet and im not really seeing your point

[barren tapir]

a lot of easyish to obtain ships just so happen to be american and unlike british ones, they actually give decent point

nevada/okla/cali/tenn as basic commonly available drop ship example, being bbs you get quite a bit to mlb, and it's bulin-free unlike for many kms ship where dupe is harder

[thorn tartan]

where do i find this "raid" event?

[keen sable]

joint operation

[white agate]

top
right

[keen sable]

or just click event instead of 12-4 oh wait that doesn't work for raid apparently

[eager mulch]

↗️

[thorn tartan]

are these all new ships?

[eternal moth]

The gacha is, as are what, 2 of the event ships?

[sharp socket]

at the end of the day i got stuck on cmdr level from early on until w12 and distraction from events so pre-w13 wasnt much of a challenge since i just did it with overleveled stuff

[stray gale]

hay alguna forma de saber cual barco de elite no es limitado? para poder eliminarlo

[keen sable]

you can event farm d3 a lot especially if you get a D3 rerun

[barren tapir]

same, i 1:1ed and 2:1ed from ch4 up to ch10 lol

[white agate]

yep, cmdr level is the biggest issue too imo

[rigid onyx]

If you start off with an IB event and can do roon --> fdg --> ancho I'd probably do that instead of saint louis --> ancho --> fdg just so that you can start doing the 2 free coins/day for DRs b/c you struggle for coins especially first few months

[barren tapir]

i had the cmdr level due to long amagi event, double exp, and opsi but my campaign progress was stunted for ages due to event lol

should i use circular for taihou

[opaque gate]

is farming the event for indiv reward worth it?

[sharp socket]

#international-port

[viscid swift]

up to a point yes

[white agate]

wait, if you started at amagi cv event how are ypu already level 120

[barren tapir]

im not im 116

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, getting to level 100 is not that difficult

[rigid onyx]

sort of, it isn't really worth it to do easy/normal stages and only worth it to do the 15 hards/day + 5 tickets on either EX or hard mode

if you miss a day it's probably worth it to try & catch up

[viscid swift]

especially with the commander XP bonus events these days

[thorn tartan]

does the reward for the raid depend on score in any way?

[barren tapir]

especially if you c1

also if u see what followed amagi, there were good cmdr exp event, tempesta and collab both low oil cap, easy to grind loads...

[keen sable]

ex. no. challenge yes

[barren tapir]

like collab i got almost 140k point, no doubt gave a ton of cmdr exp...

[thorn tartan]

where can i see the score = reward info?

[sharp socket]

i can do EX 15 times instead of hard?

[viscid swift]

it's also important to bear in mind commander level requirements increase exponentially not linearly

[barren tapir]

EX needs special unlock ticket things

[keen sable]

1 ticket = 1 EX

[sharp socket]

oh ok so how many EX in a day

[keen sable]

5

[sharp socket]

and is it affected by bonus 15 runs

[white agate]

i used my 5 tikets on ex yes, it gives more contribution and i can auto it

[keen sable]

EX, no

[barren tapir]

EX is always big reward due to ticket

[sharp socket]

so ill do 15 hard 5 EX a day?

[viscid swift]

I'm just doing 20 hard a day

[keen sable]

for 60k points yes. or 20 hard for 48k

[rigid onyx]

i've heard 15 hard + 5 ticketed hard is better

[keen sable]

~~69k technically ~~

[sharp socket]

i can do hard more than 15 times right

[white agate]

wouldn't doing normal and easy with 1:1 fleet be ok too?

[rigid onyx]

is it 48k? i heard that it gets you to 55k?

[viscid swift]

extra effort for no gain

[keen sable]

you can do hard without tickets but is unnecessary and not advised

[barren tapir]

why bother when hard is 25 oilcap and drops rudders '

[white agate]

i have already 8

[keen sable]

120 times 20 times 21 = 50,400

[barren tapir]

rewarded easy/normal is worse than unrewarded hard

[sharp socket]

i just want to finish it quicker so i can go back to working in w15

[rigid onyx]

anyways the raw exp it takes to get to 100 is the same as it takes to get to 115, and there's also this:

If your Commander level is 21-40 levels above the enemy's level in a sortie, XP gain is halved. If your Commander level is 41+ levels above the enemy's level, XP gain is reduced to 1/10 of its original value.

that makes early exp gain easier too

[barren tapir]

in opsi the exp value is reduced at 31-60 and 61+

[cobalt egret]

One never knows when a psycho who misses the corpse dragging days will appear

[viscid swift]

what

[tender lotus]

I'm sure i saw someone share AA support dmg for Hwah Jah Kai yesterday but I can't find it

[keen sable]

you'll end up with points and nothing

[rigid onyx]

i have no idea what that means but ill assume it's poetry

[barren tapir]

due to this factoid, up to about 120ish is very "fast" relatively speaking if you do c1, before it slows down significantly

[rigid onyx]

same as nakh apparently, didnt do math myself

[white agate]

zombie low cost fleet

[viscid swift]

corpse dragging is basically expecting ships to die

[sharp socket]

ill just see what happens and decide for myself

[cobalt egret]

Back when retiring ships gave oil back based on level and there was no oil cap, people would spam low level stages for the most efficient gold

[barren tapir]

ah, 2-1 black alchemy

[viscid swift]

no one did that

[keen sable]

no one with a job did that...

[rose cosmos]

Is tenrai in the lab now?

[barren tapir]

only complete tryhard maniacs did it anyway

[viscid swift]

for the reasons you listed anyway

[rigid onyx]

expected gear lab update in 1-3 weeks

[cobalt egret]

I was friends with the tryhard maniacs

[rigid onyx]

2-1 was at least better than c1 from what i understand

[barren tapir]

[rigid onyx]

person who actively does c1 presses doubt

[barren tapir]

i would consider c1 better u can at least get some exp and it is completely cost-free besides time, and easier to auto for longer periods

and yes, ive done 2-1 and similar low-cost bs in dead weeks before (my secret sauce is ch6 low cost purple plate grind)

[viscid swift]

I would agree with the first part

[barren tapir]

2-1 you have to cleanse dock periodically and care about morale/swapping and restart every 15min, opsi is rng but can check every 30-60min and still good progress, and only need to buy akashi nothing else

[stark quiver]

2-1 gem farm?

[rigid onyx]

2-1 you didnt care about morale because you could throw away the ranger/cassin when it got to level 50+

[viscid swift]

that's cope

[rigid onyx]

when 2-1 was a thing wasn't level cap 100 and gold much more valuable too

[barren tapir]

sounds like more work and slower clear

c1 is better imo

[opaque gate]

are the event ships worth building?

[white agate]

opsi did not exist

[barren tapir]

talking about nowadays tho cos they claim 2-1 better

[cobalt egret]

Yeah? Nobody implied otherwise.

[eternal moth]

I still don't get how C1 works; don;'t you have to babysit it waiting for Akashi to show up?

[viscid swift]

2-1 farming wasn't even a thing until shortly before oil caps were a thing ironically enough

[barren tapir]

also there was an 8 month ish period overlapping 2-1 existing and opsi existing

[opaque gate]

are the event ships worth building?

[cobalt egret]

No more baby sitting than having the screen be visible so you can see when the action stops

[white agate]

yes, but game can autostop when akashi shows

[barren tapir]

from what ive researched it was barely a thing on EN but was more done over on CN especially by nolifer dalaos

[eternal moth]

Bruh, 2-1 was a thing just a couple years ago

[viscid swift]

yeah that's the gist of it

[keen sable]

no cap but long com exists

[barren tapir]

yes, opsi existed before oilcap for 8ish months that's what i mean

[viscid swift]

only reason why EN even knows of 2-1 is because Kimo shilled it

[cobalt egret]

Like I said, I was friends with the psychos

[eternal moth]

OpSi's been in the game since what, 2019? It's A LOT more than oil cap

[barren tapir]

it was basically post-endgame nolifer CN tech when they have nothing better to farm iirc

[stark quiver]

Oh so that’s why I did it so much
I remember I learned it somewhere

[rigid onyx]

and back then comms had a higher rate of appearing too

[barren tapir]

since early 2021 iirc? or was it early 2020, one of those wasnt it?

[viscid swift]

I'll be honest and say I don't care

[viscid swift]

late 2020

[cobalt egret]

Cool beans

[rigid onyx]

c1 farming just sounds like it makes you go into cog deficit faster

[viscid swift]

I was around when it released

[barren tapir]

https://x.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1340963140226277377 ah end of 2020 i was off by a couple months

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN) on X

Dearest Commanders,

The long-awaited Operation Siren will be launching on December 22nd, 2020. This update will introduce Operation Siren, Guild 2.0 and Ashes Showdown. We can't wait for Commanders to experience all these new features.

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X · Dec 21, 2020, 10:11 AM

but also it didnt get proper qol farming features for a couple months

[eternal moth]

Oil cap was 2023? Or was is 22?

[barren tapir]

oil cap was october 2021

[viscid swift]

2021

[eternal moth]

wut

[viscid swift]

auto search also funnily didn't arrive until January 2021

[barren tapir]

did u get any gems

oh yeah, wasnt autosearch what really made it a proper thing over in cn

[viscid swift]

yep

[keen sable]

||auto search is what makes 2-1 enticing but bad||

[barren tapir]

cos then u could actually afk the black alchemy grind instead of microing it all fuckin day

[viscid swift]

so that's the period when it really thrived

[keen sable]

if you call autoing 3 fights auto and afk then maybe

you had a decent chance of 4 fights though

[barren tapir]

ive gone on bilibili and found old cn videos explaining and showing examples of the black alchemy

[rigid onyx]

c1 is just modern day 2-1

[viscid swift]

god I can still remember the days when 7-2 was the coin farm

[barren tapir]

theres also cn example of 1 second c1 clear fleet kek

[cobalt egret]

OSRS players call being able to look away from the game for 15 seconds AFKing so, maybe

[barren tapir]

its still pretty microey sure but significant step up from having to click every fight

[cobalt egret]

For my part, I'm glad that hell is behind us

[keen sable]

it's not asignificant step up from long com though...

[thorn tartan]

i can't figure out how to start the minigame......

[barren tapir]

it's not like you cant do it if you want to tho it just doesnt turn into more oil anymore, everything else still exists

[thorn tartan]

i press start and the only options are weaken and cancel

[keen sable]

cancel

[sharp token]

thoughts about chien wu

[barren tapir]

but it was. you got refunded almost all the oil you actually spent and generated comms

[humble summit]

i cant catch up with chat, i guess im not THAT addicted after all

[eternal moth]

Don't worry about it, they're just talking boomer stuff

[barren tapir]

[keen sable]

you get oil because you literally can't spend canteen oil regen at 3 oil a fight. in exhcange for no life. doing it once a day was meaningless. it's literally a job and a bad one at that

[barren tapir]

back then retiring ships gave oil, that is the alchemy part of the name

you were basically generating slight amounts of oil via retirement and comms at basically 0 cost, while gaining coins, cube, gem etc

[humble summit]

im saving oil

prob for next event? idk any idea whats next event

[viscid swift]

neither do we really

[barren tapir]

anyway for 13-4 boss do i circular or double line

[elfin hollow]

hey chat-

are any of the DE ships on light build worth the cubes? or I'll just stick to 1 build a day?

[viscid swift]

but you should still farm the current event

[eternal moth]

Just stick to 1 per day

[elfin hollow]

aight copy that ❤️

[humble summit]

isnt it just all hard mode per day

[keen sable]

if you count rerun no idea

[viscid swift]

20 times yes

[humble summit]

ex no need?

[barren tapir]

wasnt 5x EX better if you can kill it

[viscid swift]

nope

[rigid onyx]

you can just do 15/day and then use all your tickets day 21

[humble summit]

👍

[viscid swift]

yes but you gain nothing from the additional points earned besides T5 tech boxes

[barren tapir]

supposedly it has higher bp drop rate

according to last year's wiki page

[sharp socket]

raid event so long

[humble summit]

who brought u into this game

[rigid onyx]

5x EX is more points/oil compared to unboosted hard but is worse than boosted hard tickets, and overall more points per ticket

[spring bolt]

or you can just farm sub affinity and forget about pts

[humble summit]

2 sides to this
1: who (physically)
2. who (virtually)

[barren tapir]

if wiki lies we can trust no one

[humble summit]

what is the bp this time

[barren tapir]

last year obv but they usually dont change things significantly

[rose cosmos]

All the muse units don’t give tech points right

[sharp socket]

if you want to interrogate him go do it in his dms not gph

[humble summit]

mb

[keen sable]

it's probably true but eh it's also littorio so who cared...maybe it mattered for breguet

[tender girder]

when choosing between hood, enterprise, san diego, illustrious...

guides recommend hood or enterprise, but i see san diego on EX tier in the tier list...

how hard is it for new players to retrofit san diego and get her up to speed? does it make sense at all to pick san diego over enterprise?

[rigid onyx]

retrofitting SRs --> URs is super expensive

[rose cosmos]

San diego costs like 6 bulins or so

[barren tapir]

go for hood or enty first because backline is usually more impactful and sandy is VERY expensive

[keen sable]

generally that advice is pre sandy aug

[barren tapir]

sandy pre retro with aug is quite good still but idk i wouldnt recc over enty. as for hood...

[keen sable]

whether you actually want to act differently post aug a carrier is very important though

[storm heron]

gph what are we cooking today

[rose cosmos]

Why do people recommend hood more than enter though, I still don’t understand

[viscid swift]

we do?

[eternal moth]

We recommend both

[keen sable]

but also getting your first carrier when you have L110 ships already is

[rigid onyx]

enty is basically higher variance pre-fs haku dps on average

[humble summit]

enty goated

[keen sable]

i always recommend enterprise. you can't buy any carrier much less a good carrier and rng sucks for advice.

[rose cosmos]

Btw for a new year event these 30$ packs sux ass

[rigid onyx]

idk why im getting reacted thought this was well-known

[storm heron]

what is this new vocabs

[sharp socket]

what does your sentence mean

[spark ridge]

Did 12-4 change or some gear get nerfed? My levelling fleet which had no issues with it before the update now is just getting wiped. The backline was surviving at level 70 even but now even at level 100 they’re just all dying occasionally. This is the fleet am using

[storm heron]

A is higher variance B dps on average

[barren tapir]

nothing changed tho

[spark ridge]

My image didn’t attach lol

That’s so wack, how tf do they survive every time at 70 but now they’re dying

[brazen star]

did you lose air supremacy/superiority?

[storm heron]

maybe that means A is B with more RNG

[undone plover]

Did u change boss fleet?

[barren tapir]

did u change the other fleet

[storm heron]

question, why is there no oil cap information

[viscid swift]

did you remove any gear

[spark ridge]

Both fleets same, everyone has same gear

[keen sable]

I've clicked 13-4 sometimes and died

[rigid onyx]

it's the main fleet building screen

[rose cosmos]

Btw ddg wise, who is the best one to invest

[keen sable]

fu

[rose cosmos]

Assuming I want low cost farming

[barren tapir]

fu shun

[storm heron]

an shan

[viscid swift]

Fu Shun

[keen sable]

can't beat free'er

[rigid onyx]

before the newest one Tai was best, i think the newest one is better but nobody has it for emprical testing

[viscid swift]

because you don't have to buy her retrofit item

[rose cosmos]

If I already had chang chun should I retrofit others or keep using her

[rigid onyx]

for low cost ig an shan is better b/c TY wants a full fleet, but TY has autoaim barrages

and Fu Shun is probably better than both

[barren tapir]

new one shud be better by virtue of her skill not needing full fleet. we alr know her barrage has reaim like tai

[plain saffron]

Where

[storm heron]

resolved

not a wiki issue, it;s on the raid stage

[humble summit]

ok lunch brb

[spark ridge]

So are ddg only really used for low oil fleets to like first clear event levels? Or is there some other low oil things useful for, maybe the event running 60 times thing?

[rigid onyx]

ddgs are some of the strongest anti light dps vanguards

[storm heron]

do raid event takes morale

[barren tapir]

sadly yes

[late flame]

imagine if its opsi 2.0 kek

[rose cosmos]

So I should want a green aux medal for these ddgs rite

[keen sable]

but it's friendly fun so dying doesn't make them hate you

[blissful hamlet]

Which better vs medium La-9 or skyraider?

[barren tapir]

la9

[storm heron]

level 90 enemies

[barren tapir]

new players exist doggo

[blissful hamlet]

I need more la9

[soft raft]

ignoring the fact that they're different plane cateogries, LA-9

in terms of flexible slots, depends on context and/or timing

[peak plume]

anyone knows what plane and how many is in yorktown 2 special airstrike?

[rose cosmos]

Are cv bosses considered light armor?

[sweet delta]

Iirc they're knockoff skyraiders

[blissful hamlet]

In what context will it makes a difference considering they're both rocket planes and I don't care about skyraider bomb and faction

[storm heron]

wait, 15 hard takes 1080 oil, am I missing something? bruh I have to relog, it's 375 now

[peak plume]

so they have 8 rockets aswell?

[wind hazel]

usually medium, some heavy

[blissful hamlet]

I don't care about timing too

[stark quiver]

what is serenity cooking

[sweet delta]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/约克城II

[soft raft]

Ignoring things like timing and etc
Skyraider is a DB
LA-9 is a Fighter plane

So unless it's a UR CV or the rare SR that has a flexible slot, they cant be directly compared due to being in different categories

[brazen star]

24 rockets + 3 1k bombs

[blissful hamlet]

Yea it's for UR CV

[stark quiver]

la9 should be better by a bit

[blissful hamlet]

So which is better va med la9 or skyraider

[peak plume]

neat so its 3 plane special as

[rose cosmos]

So this should be decent rite

[viscid swift]

La-9

[barren tapir]

assuming timing is fine for either

[stark quiver]

la9

[wind hazel]

use sword aug

[blissful hamlet]

[sweet delta]

Use better AA gun

[rose cosmos]

Romba and staag?

[stark quiver]

twin 134

[sleek spade]

Azuma or Brest, who is better for Opsi mobbing that can also brawl boss nodes on auto?

[viscid swift]

Brest

[sleek spade]

ogey ty!

[sharp socket]

is BC pocket battleship

[viscid swift]

no

[sweet delta]

Brest is better everywhere except when you're poor and need a Shinano activator

[viscid swift]

BC is Battlecruiser

[sharp socket]

referring to gear skins

[storm heron]

pocket battleship is the desuland class

[sleek spade]

o lol ok!

[stark quiver]

according to haifuri, spee was a pocket battleship

[sweet delta]

Roomba or twin 90 for AA, or twin 134 for damage

[viscid swift]

according to the British as well

[sleek spade]

but what abt those bosses that punishes you for healing by converting heal to dmg

[sharp socket]

if gear skin says artillery (battleship), artillery (pocket battleship) is it BC or what hull

[viscid swift]

it means CB

[storm heron]

:notehsiro:

[stark quiver]

cheeky watched haifuri?

[viscid swift]

yes

[storm heron]

also it seemed like the gear skins are good?

[viscid swift]

I have watched all the ship and girl related animes

[rose cosmos]

This one?

[keen sable]

when you learn that spee is smaller than baltimores everything makes sense

[stark quiver]

why am i not surprised, but yea same

[storm heron]

I only watch azur lane main so far

[tall quarry]

I'm sorry guys, I'm kinda stupid. How to play this mini game?
Everytime I click play, this weaken menu show up

[viscid swift]

tap cancel

[keen sable]

cancel

[tall quarry]

Aight cheers, thank you very much

[barren tapir]

what is the site ppl use to showcase full fleet setups again, was it larscalc or renhex

[foggy cypress]

Hello I have a question in regards to the hard mode stage for this event is it worth grinding after the 15 dailies or should I just stick to 12-4 thank you

[viscid swift]

mixture of both

I use lars when I need timings and renhex to show multiple fleets

[viscid swift]

do 20 a day and then go back to 12-4

[keen sable]

no hull.. it means large caliber gun which realistically means arcing shells.

[foggy cypress]

Ah alrighty thank you

Should I do the normal and easy dailies as well?

[viscid swift]

no

[foggy cypress]

Alrighty thank you

[storm heron]

4 WM's out of 15 sorties

[soft raft]

Is that with or without the tickets/boosted runs?

[storm heron]

with 1 ticket

oh it's 4/16 then

[peak plume]

whats the best fleet for hard mode farm in the event? i mean oil efficient wise

[storm heron]

initial clear + 14 boosted daily + 1 ticket

[keen sable]

6 ships

[peak plume]

i mean how bout the lowest one you can go

[rigid onyx]

there is no point in going below oil cap

[keen sable]

If it's first clear almost anything will work

[rose cosmos]

Are ddg useful in campaign?

[rigid onyx]

considering the difficulty you could probably do ranger/cassin maybe

[peak plume]

im using this one

but its like 70% winrate, sometimes soyuz cant kill boss in 1 salvo

[blissful hamlet]

Yes

[rose cosmos]

Also I guess tai yuan and an shang aren’t that good by now rite

[wind hazel]

all ddgs are good

[blissful hamlet]

They're still the top in DDG or DD in general, the difference between each DDG are microscopic

[slow fox]

Thanks for using it! [:

[dreamy blade]

so is it worth the 1/4 of a ur bulin to retro taiyuan

[rigid onyx]

\

[keen sable]

Instead of 0 bulin for fu?

[cobalt gate]

hows your progress?

[dreamy blade]

theyre not mutually exclusive

[rose cosmos]

You get 5 dupes for free?

[rigid onyx]

ty retrofit item costs protocore, they're talking about ur bulin

[keen sable]

No...fu doesn't cost ur bulins

[rose cosmos]

So we still need purple bulin for her then

I thought when you said free it’s like everything free

[sleek spade]

Can yall give me feedback about these fleet? Note that I don't have Implac and Biszwei, and Im still working on Yorktown. I should have her full lv and max skill at the end of the month

[proven jolt]

Which one?

[frank pulsar]

nano

[sleek spade]

I'd say shinano cus she's go well w Amagi

[frank pulsar]

the rest not worth/powercrept

[rose cosmos]

Even ulrich?

[rigid onyx]

you should only pull in perma gacha 1x light pulls a day

[stark quiver]

enterprise in fleet 4 kear flag,
prob run aurora, and another good anti light/support ship
and replace guam with z52
put hinden in mob
swap kronk and agir place

[frank pulsar]

ulrich is one of our worst ur bb, even nj is better

[rigid onyx]

it appears as though you are doing more than that based off of who you've obtained

[sleek spade]

My Aurora's gear a little cope tho. And why Z52 instead of Guam?
I also don't have hinden yet

[frank pulsar]

prob cuz z52 bigger amp and more dmg than guam, also should be able to tank fine

[stark quiver]

just
give her better gear
z52 bc she can take to a certain degree and has good buffs

you wont use all 4 fleets at once, and u can gear swap

[sleek spade]

I'll be kinda lacking dmg for mobbing tho.

[rigid onyx]

mobbing is easy

[keen sable]

A second ddg sounds like a luxury item. Up to you when you want to spend ur bulin on a luxury.

[sleek spade]

Should fleet 4 have both Aurora and Sirius?

ogey. I'll move Laffii up to mob

[frank pulsar]

make unzen tank and run triple dps vanguard i guess
personally i run hinden + double ddg for mob

[rigid onyx]

if you have a ddg i'd imagine she'd outperform sirius

[keen sable]

What lb is uvh?

[soft raft]

Damage wise yes
but utility wise? Big fat doubt on that

[sleek spade]

Sirius is there for AVI buff

[rigid onyx]

sirius in a fleet with 2 bb

[stark quiver]

good idea man

[sleek spade]

yea I forgot to change lol

[stark quiver]

i literally said, run enty instead of nj
now you have 2 cv

[sleek spade]

yes

[barren tapir]

aurora chapter 14 (possibly manual if needed)

[eager mulch]

[sleek spade]

say for the next rerun when Implac comes back, should I replace Enty w her?

[rose cosmos]

So like, is she ok for mobbing in 14

[stark quiver]

why

[sleek spade]

cus slow and big fighter rocket dmg

[barren tapir]

if anyone can school me on ch14 rq that'd be great

[stark quiver]

or you can put implac in ijn fleet

[keen sable]

Like I get why Tashkent is there but Tashkent is there.

[rigid onyx]

if running enty/kears/yorkii z52/laffii/sirius i'd replace laffii with a ddg aurora

[sleek spade]

Either tashkent is there or I use avp lol

[stark quiver]

why not aurora

[rigid onyx]

true

[keen sable]

That's a response to placy

[rigid onyx]

triggers stop for nakh

[stark quiver]

yea but its tashkent in an anti heavy fleet

[sleek spade]

geh

[rigid onyx]

you think avp + unzen is better?

[wind hazel]

no eldridge?

[keen sable]

While they have placy doing what?? Anti light work or nothing

[rigid onyx]

eld wouldnt work

[sleek spade]

I got Eldridge but she's not levelled

[stark quiver]

unique, what is placy

[keen sable]

The question was what to do with placy

Implacable

[wind hazel]

go level her, put her with ijn cvs.
move soyuz with cat,
put NJ with BB, agir with BB

[rigid onyx]

implac get slapped into heavy or into light if light harby i think

[keen sable]

And the answer is implacable let's you fix that funny ijn fleet.

[sleek spade]

But funny IJN fleet does big heavy dmg

[rigid onyx]

you replace nakh with implac and keep funny ijns

[sleek spade]

not sure if I have enough bulins to mlb her tho

[rigid onyx]

and you free up a slot for unzen instead of tashkent

[sleek spade]

so I'll keep this for now?

[proven jolt]

Uvh been max me German main so I spurged

[sleek spade]

rearranging cats. dont mind cat slot

[stark quiver]

those cats look horrific
oh

[sleek spade]

yea I don't have better cats bro my purple cats are ass

[barren tapir]

are breguets from core data worth it ?

[wind hazel]

i mean, are you having issue with this fleet

[sleek spade]

not really. I did w the December Harb tho

[proven jolt]

I'll probably just grab NJ since I don't like shinano

[keen sable]

Ok yeah shinano over nj, and all states of smkz and kron

[tender girder]

so if i'm running saratoga, penny, Unicorn...
Enterprise would replace saratoga?...

Or i guess i can put her in a new fleet, since i currently have in World 5 and have only 1 fleet

[rigid onyx]

only focus on one fleet until w9

[sleek spade]

does Eldridge work w nakh?

[wind hazel]

still should 2 fleet at most, right? otherwise that's gear issue and not fleet issue

[sleek spade]

my gear is not bad tho, but it's not super endgame boogaloo

[wind hazel]

also, no Guam?

[sleek spade]

Amagi for example

[rigid onyx]

guam is better than kron imo

also laffii midlde position mob feels kinda wasted considering her low contribution

mob in opsi is so easy you start to optimize for clearing speed

[stark quiver]

other than the non +13 and oath, shes as good as she can be

[sleek spade]

sometimes I need that fleet for boss

[stark quiver]

bruh what

[rigid onyx]

if anything swap laffii and unzen

[sleek spade]

Nov and Dec harbiter bro

[stark quiver]

are you fighting with low dapt?

[sleek spade]

I fight at around 200 adapt.

[keen sable]

Yes now might be a good time to swap sara out temporarily. Retrofit probably still far away and aug

[stark quiver]

skill issue

[sleek spade]

real

[rigid onyx]

if you have a hindenburg id replace laffii with her

[sleek spade]

nah I havent yet

[peak plume]

i got it, 10 oil for 70 pts in normal

[sweet delta]

Seems very bad

[sleek spade]

so Guam > kronk then

[keen sable]

You know ex beats that...

[peak plume]

ex has oil cap?

[sleek spade]

so should I use Eldridge instead of Tashkent?

[rigid onyx]

you lose the nakh stop on your aimed tb fleet

[barren tapir]

why tho

[rigid onyx]

im not sure if against heavy AvP + unzen outpreforms nakh + tash though

[zenith heron]

Yeah,

Kron is basically that CB that had wasted potential because Agir Powercrept her immediately when she got released and the Rest of The CB's released after her does as usual... decent cross barrage I guess but not as much...

[rigid onyx]

just slot implac in when you get her

[sleek spade]

ogey

[peak plume]

save oil and check which stage give better oil:pts

[rigid onyx]

bonus hard mode is best for that

[soft raft]

More like Kron failed to powercrept Agir since the latter is two years older but yeah basically that

[sleek spade]

brah

[peak plume]

i havent tried, how much is the oil cap and pts?

[viscid swift]

oil cap is 25

[soft raft]

And 120 pts per hard clear

[peak plume]

oh i mean in EX

[rigid onyx]

320/40 for EX, 240/25 for bonus hard

[peak plume]

can you get urgent coms here?

[barren tapir]

how worth are breguets from core data?

[wind hazel]

if you're coping without wyvern and have extra cores, it's pretty good

[keen sable]

120...

[rigid onyx]

does the bonus ticket not double the number of points you get

[keen sable]

It doesn't. Just normal drops

[barren tapir]

well im fairly off from 3rd and 4th wyvern but this month is giving me a nice injection of core data, so i wonder a bit about it

[storm heron]

I don't think breg is worth tbh

[wind hazel]

yeah i'd spend on sub gear before considering a breguet

[zenith heron]

Basically what Mori said, bcs it might be the only Gold Parallel Torp Bomber to have Interception...

[barren tapir]

i finished my shells and have cv timing adj so next on the list is sub gear and i have spare core beyond that probably

[sweet delta]

Id spend on oxytorp before sub gear

[barren tapir]

sub gear is like 1300 per month iirc

and i should be nearish 3k (idk exactly) with ch13 hm, so 1300 sub, 850 chip/array and i have leftovers

[zenith heron]

3 oxy torps is where I stop, hell I don't use any of my Oxy Torps except Unzen...

Or that certain Meta Boss Fight

[rigid onyx]

id get 3 sets of pencils and indep before anything else

[barren tapir]

i alr said i have those

[rigid onyx]

and intercept on torp bombers is kinda bait

[sweet delta]

You never know when snorkel or hull might get powercrept. Oxytorp is much less likely to be powercrept
Hull even is T2 only, they could easily release T3 Hull

[barren tapir]

also i dont have bulins to raise subs with currently

[keen sable]

British ur sub and gear when

[viscid swift]

meanwhile there's me buying Royal Fortune dupes

[barren tapir]

tldr if i have spare core data and need wyvern substitutes would it be a decent pick

[wind hazel]

sure

[elfin hollow]

Do you need more than 2wyvern?

[wind hazel]

maybe

[elfin hollow]

For what campaign?

[rigid onyx]

technically you need 0 eventually because spearfish is better

[barren tapir]

ch13 income is approx 2910/month from my paper math, so it allows for quite some flexibility

[wind hazel]

i used a lot of wyvern for w15

[viscid swift]

spearfishes are expensive more than anything else

[barren tapir]

well my proposed ch14 fleets have lots of tb slots and i feel like barracuda is just worse

[rigid onyx]

i mean barracuda is basically objectively worse than wyvern

[barren tapir]

hence why i looked into wyvern substitutes, lol

[rigid onyx]

i doubt that having a barracuda on your boss fleet will make or break a clear though

[barren tapir]

true

[elfin hollow]

I never pushed past ch 13 anyways

[rigid onyx]

thats fair

[barren tapir]

how legit is this btw

[rigid onyx]

provides nothing but gems for progression

[elfin hollow]

I focused on opsi first cuz it actually gives shit you know

[rose cosmos]

Why does every useful weapon in the lab require light bulbs

[barren tapir]

i can do everything in opsi

that is why i've finally turned my sights onto campaign's free dock expansion

[zenith heron]

C13 is purely AA but so doable with decent AA as long as you can damage and survive as usual...

Unless someone wants to correct me...

[rigid onyx]

past w13 = has done w13 no?

[barren tapir]

just finished ch13 and found it super easy it's been super powercrept i guess

[elfin hollow]

I can probably do 14 and 15 now, but haven't done it yet

[viscid swift]

it is what 5 years old now

[rigid onyx]

was there percy on w13 release

[barren tapir]

it felt like ch12

[elfin hollow]

When I quit the game only pr2 exsisted was that when ch 13 came out?

[zenith heron]

Felt like Chapter 12 but a slightly harder but doable durability test

[elfin hollow]

I remember needing to manual ch 13-4

[rigid onyx]

idt unikai nor even percy was available on w13 release

[elfin hollow]

There was percy no uni kai

[zenith heron]

Isn't she 2021 / 2022?

[barren tapir]

i was expecting to need to manual and then finished taihou consistently with 90%+ hp on all ships actually a letdown

uni retro was may 2022

[viscid swift]

yep I was right

[keen sable]

Definitely not uni. Uni is post 14. Initial 14 is perseus

[elfin hollow]

It was definitely a challenge with no real UR ships

[barren tapir]

oh cool i beat ch13 right on the exact 5th yr anniversary of ch13 in EN

[cobalt gate]

great news i have a 90% for 15-1 now

[viscid swift]

ok....

[sweet delta]

You're not allergic to manual, I think it's a great buy

[keen sable]

Perseus is August 2020. Ryuuhou is the star of 13

[rigid onyx]

considering your current goal is actively pushing campaign i think it's not legit

[barren tapir]

sandy retro was around back then so wouldnt she have been the star

[sweet delta]

Chien Wu has a really strong AoA, zero mention of hwah jah as support fleet carrier, fushun and taiyuan are better than anshan

[clever lance]

Is it possible to get jintsuu meta?

[barren tapir]

not right now no

[viscid swift]

yeah one issue

[cobalt gate]

how does hwah jah become a support fleet carrier?

[elfin hollow]

How do you get those elite meta from cruise

[zenith heron]

No announcement yet sadly

[barren tapir]

ohhh she wasnt perma for a year of ch13 ic

[teal cradle]

who should I pick

[barren tapir]

eventually they go into meta shop

[sweet delta]

Very strong AoA

Chien wu DPS is about 47% ply gun, 35% UR CA gun, 9% torp, 8% aux "aoa", 1% real aoa. Vary depending on armor

[sweet delta]

Meta shop

[viscid swift]

doesn't matter

[zenith heron]

4 are currently at the META Shops, while other METAs are obtainable via Meta Boss Fights (The Gold Ones though)

[cobalt gate]

i think laffey was the best?

[barren tapir]

150% x 6 fighters, decent avi

[keen sable]

6 fighters does that

[cobalt gate]

oh its 6 fighters

[teal cradle]

oki thanks

[keen sable]

Laffey

[elfin hollow]

everyone hates jabulin huh

[barren tapir]

theyre all around the same some say jav is worse

[teal cradle]

0 idea what this game is all about but I saw some ass and tits so yeah

[slow fox]

Javelin's the tankiest one.

[viscid swift]

it's about anthropomorphic warships from the first half of the 20th century

allegedly

[tropic tusk]

u forgot lolies

[keen sable]

Side scrolling bullet hell rpg

[zenith heron]

Its bcs of her Evasion basically,

But peeps mostly think about pure damage when starters like me have that weird ass mindset..

[cobalt gate]

i mean you will get better tank vanguard easily

[barren tapir]

ppl look down on javelin cos she's torp focused

[sweet delta]

Javelin has the worst gunnery, and gun is good

[barren tapir]

ectl especially has/had a bias towards gunboats and that bias has carried over to general community feel

[teal cradle]

does having bigger tits = more damage?

[slow fox]

Should be anywhere from 2-3% eHP gap tbh

[keen sable]

#al-general

[rose cosmos]

Is it wrong to just analyze the ur prints

[storm heron]

did azur lane ever raise skin prices?

[humble summit]

sup guys

[cobalt gate]

the cow has the least damage though

[tropic tusk]

as i know yes

[zenith heron]

I would prefer to save for FS5

[whole crypt]

guns are more consistent that's all

[tropic tusk]

there was a skin that wasnt l2d and when it became l2d the price raise

[barren tapir]

yeah i agree theyre more consistent but doesnt explain the javbad rhetoric

[cobalt gate]

i wonder when we getting queen elizbeth retrofit

[rose cosmos]

What about analyzing catch up sr prints

[slow fox]

Jav was never bad :mutsuki:

[whole crypt]

laffey and z23 are better period

[storm heron]

naga dynamic cost 4 digits smh alright then, understandable given the increase in quality and inflation

[keen sable]

Damage smoothing has always existed even if it couldn't be vocalized by most until 13/14 as desync

[rose cosmos]

I plan to analyze all of my Seattle prints

[barren tapir]

she got a meta, coping goes to general chat

[zenith heron]

If its a coinable one, or a finished one yes

If not still save for FS5

[barren tapir]

i dont believe there is any significant difference long term though. in fact, javelin helps you torp pad better

[cobalt gate]

i mean lots of meta boats have retrofit

[zenith heron]

I hope you mean "meta" boats than the META faction ones

[barren tapir]

honestly even a retro wouldnt save QE without also an augment and both being relatively cracked

[cobalt gate]

i do

[tropic tusk]

seeing how there's a new part of the beginner mission wht else did they unlock ? new gear crafting?

[whole crypt]

as a JP player this is irrelevant to me

[knotty sleet]

What does 15/15 means near difficulty?

[viscid swift]

/15runs

[keen sable]

Great idea. Go for it. Tenrai very good

[odd root]

The first 15 runs you do each day give better rewards than normal. Once you hit 0/15, you can still fight, for the same number of contribution points, but the droprate of equipment blueprints is much lower. Your 15 runs reset each day, so you will get 15 more "drop-boosted" runs tomorrow. You can use challenge tickets to run "boosted" attempts when you run out of your daily amount.

[storm heron]

did they make this command because I was worried too much

[sweet delta]

But in the mid to long term, there's no need to rush for hms tech
And in the long term, you bench the starters

[knotty sleet]

Ohh i see thanks

[clever lance]

Anybody free to give me advice on fleet over at #pvp

[rose cosmos]

I plan to go for the Plymouth one though

[storm heron]

aight

[knotty sleet]

Should i also do normal and easy?

[rose cosmos]

[viscid swift]

no

[zenith heron]

Me coping for WarKai for an Augment...

I wonder what new stats/skills will be improved..

[knotty sleet]

Okie 👌 thx

[sweet delta]

Coping for gph to be on topic

[cobalt gate]

i mean sandiego got one so possible

[keen sable]

That's good too

[barren tapir]

i used javelin for ply exp

[whole crypt]

I do easy/norm for grey plates

[barren tapir]

ch12 has those too

[sweet delta]

What's the gray per oil

[cobalt gate]

but i feel like getting the agument means like last increase the ship will get

[deep solstice]

i should prob limit break shinano first before fritz or rumey if i have musashi and amagi right?

[barren tapir]

if they really wanted to they can always invent yet another system to boost a ship

[viscid swift]

yes

[whole crypt]

didn't count just throwing 4-oil fleet at it

[barren tapir]

few years back, a retro was the last increase a ship could get, after all

[cobalt gate]

thats true

[keen sable]

Hard choice between fritz or rumey

[keen sable]

Might still want to avoid shinano with bulins if poor

[cobalt gate]

what faction for next rainbow event anyway

[viscid swift]

we don't know

[cobalt gate]

otherwise shinano would be good to at least finish the sakura

[deep solstice]

i was contemplating pulling more on yorktown banner since i get her early, but i forgor, also i have 5 ur bulins plus like 13k spec cores

so i can mlb one more ur if i want to

[cobalt gate]

when does admiral become top tier anyway? does it have to be 30?

[viscid swift]

what

[keen sable]

please not ib

[cobalt gate]

the pr7 ship

[keen sable]

Obviously...

[viscid swift]

well of course dev 30

[cobalt gate]

long way to go then

keep seeing her in top damage fleets, although i don't have the planes anyway to run it

[keen sable]

What about z52? You need something to do with perma spark which is shinano.

[cobalt gate]

oh yeah the spark, you need to finish anyone else?

i'm leaving laffey hopefully she gets added soon

[sweet delta]

That would be a trademark of all time

[deep solstice]

i will eventually, when i do get the spark. i only shinano from teh spark tho, so it might be a while

[rose cosmos]

Btw how does kear work, is she a plane?

[sweet delta]

No she's a ship

With planes and bb guns

[keen sable]

And dd guns and aa guns

[sweet delta]

You can also press the simulation button on her page in the shipyard

[deep solstice]

oh yeah i've been meaning to ask how important is fate sim

[sweet delta]

Depends on the ship

Some are free, some are very unimportant, some are very important

[deep solstice]

uh for now roon and st. louis since those are the only ships i have at dev 30 rn

[sweet delta]

They're small benefits, but they're free or very cheap

[keen sable]

If you're not actively using them maybe conserve coins slightly. Ie 4 a day instead of 7 or 10

Or open up a pr2 so you can convert its catchup

[barren tapir]

well if not using them you can just ignore fate sim tbh

[keen sable]

i wouldn't go below 2

[barren tapir]

true

[deep solstice]

im 30 kms points away form being able to work on fdg

[barren tapir]

id make another ship asap tho in that case

[deep solstice]

currently working on neptune

[keen sable]

you really want something in a different season

[deep solstice]

oh shit wait, i can work on parseval

[storm heron]

with pr6 catchup, what are the path nowadays?

[barren tapir]

pr6 catchup is shimanto, pretty nobrainer

[sharp socket]

same as usual except you add shimanto

[storm heron]

do people stay in pr6 a lil while like a week or two for shimanto

[elfin hollow]

Chat-

Can I cope not getting YK2 by using YK only? I'm still reading the fleetbuilding guide for UR alternatives

[storm heron]

oh nvm blanks exist

[barren tapir]

might be worth, her fs5 is good iirc?

oh yea blanks

[sharp socket]

i considered that but just used the selectors for it

including some pr7

[keen sable]

brest rush?

[storm heron]

wdym using YK only

[keen sable]

shimanto sounds hard to start. like haku level

[barren tapir]

yorktown is not yorktown 2

[storm heron]

why brest rush though, I would do brest after ply sure

[keen sable]

yorktown is not a ur alternative. she's not even sr.

plymouth also takes long time

[storm heron]

maybe it should be ancho -> ply or PR1 d30'ed ship -> shimanto -> brest

[keen sable]

the easiest ship to start in 6 is probably felix. ruppy in 5 i guess. maybe harbin is easy but what does she do...

[elfin hollow]

Why not chill in Pr 4 for tenrais

[unique lantern]

you can coin pr4 now, no?

[sharp socket]

casually forgets fdg, agir and haku

[elfin hollow]

Right they just made that change

I'm doing the event battles thingy.

Is the quadruple mk10 torpedo being advertised on the rewards even useful?

[sharp socket]

harbin has torps

[viscid swift]

No

[elfin hollow]

Man.....I just wasted 1500 oil battling 😭

[barren tapir]

harbin is a really good ship, but DE tech is hard outside lny imo, ruppy may be abit easier

[storm heron]

nice setup

[unique lantern]

i havent tried it yet but ex difficulty judging by oil cap is a great place to level up your subs, ye?

maybe finally get them to love status too finally 🥲

[storm heron]

but ruppy so hard though, doing ruppy might mean late agir or fdg or avp

[barren tapir]

you do fdg first and then ruppy tech is done so

[elfin hollow]

The only silver lining is that I have no reason to use up my cubes this CNY, and now I can prepare for the February UR forecast

[barren tapir]

i mean outside LNY DE tech requires lvl120ing several guild shop ships or something

[unique lantern]

okay so i guess trying to level up my ships in ex is not a good idea , is hard worth the oil to level some ships or do i just spam ex with my 125s for rewards?

[keen sable]

you can't spam ex so...

a hard cap of 105 attempts

[unique lantern]

oh that makes it easier

[keen sable]

20 hard is plenty for most people

[deep solstice]

pretty sure hard is also like oil cap of 25

[unique lantern]

waifu squad it is then

[deep solstice]

15 runs for 375 oil isn't bad no? unless the xp u get from doing hard isn't that good

[keen sable]

the xp is not that good but it's an event and you should do the profitable runs

[clever lance]

How do we get prowler?

[deep solstice]

i already did, but im doing more for coins or maybe actually doing ch 10 might be better, since that's the highest i've unlocked for now

[crisp raven]

? tap the auto repeat button bottom left, or pause and leave to end the loop. you only lose the oil for the fights done. you need 1 clear to activate oil cap. reload your game if necessary. cut oil losses. unless im missing something, i dont see how its a 1500 oil loss (yet)

[tropic tusk]

i just run 1:1 on hard

[unique lantern]

wait EACH ex run costs a ticket? damn i thought wed be getting 15 per ticket since you said cap of 105 attempts

[storm heron]

you can't anymore

[keen sable]

yes 105 attempts over 3 weeks aka 5 a day

[storm heron]

prowler was in a collab event

[clever lance]

😪

[deep solstice]

can u save up the tickets and do more than 5 a day?

[keen sable]

ticket expire when event ends so you can procrastinate

or optimize by doing 15, 15, 15+15 instead of 15+5, 15+5, 15+5 for less tapping.

yeah you can't just do 5 either. you have to tap carefully to 5 to avoid overruns.

[unique lantern]

is one ex more profitable than 15 additional boosted runs tho?

[thorn tartan]

what is this 533mm quad torp mount mk35 T0?

[keen sable]

20 hard is enough for 48k(50.4k). 15 hard + 5 ex is enough for 60k(69k) but you should be capable of scoring like 300+ in ex

[sweet delta]

It's also in gear lab and niche and worse than improved quad mags

[unique lantern]

oh i was still somehow under the impression that a ticket would give more than one boosted run for lower difficulties, me stoopid, ye thanks

[stark quiver]

whens the estimated date for plygun coming to gearlab

[thorn tartan]

does doing the ex stage earn you something more than just running hard stage throughout the event?

3 week event

i ran the ex and got 318 points i think....

[storm heron]

February 2026

[keen sable]

jp says a new cny lucky bag with presumably new skins next maintenance which again presumably will be one week the 23rd not 30th or 6th. and yes a NJ skin is confirmed

[nimble knoll]

After I finish the Hard Newcomer quests, I can go and do this right? (It's the exam part)

Lesho, I can get Enty when I clear 7-1

[keen sable]

yes but you have a L110 ship?

7-1 isn't the blocker

[nimble knoll]

Uh.. 94 is my highest- which is both uni and Laffey

But I'm still at world 6 anyways, I can grind some more levels for most of my team, as Uni and Laffey are 10 levels ahead

[keen sable]

and retrofit laffey, have two fleets, all 34 exams not just 7-1

[storm heron]

what's event exp and gold gain?

[nimble knoll]

I need to complete all to get them?.. Not just 7-1..

[storm heron]

did someone ask this before

[keen sable]

like 420 base xp. coin isn't bad.

[nimble knoll]

God damnit!

[carmine heath]

laffey has been neglected and I intend on continuing to neglect her

[storm heron]

I missed Ender and Yuki

[storm heron]

yeah I was about to ask if that's better than pre-oilcap stages

[nimble knoll]

So I need to level up both Laffey and Portland while getting their Retrofits. And I need more leveled ships..

And I need 24 purple gear and enhance them to +8..

Fudging Pain..

[carmine heath]

technically you dont need to retro portland

[storm heron]

triple mk6, helldiver, steam catapult, tbtsk, toolbox

[nimble knoll]

This are all my purples

[barren tapir]

no need to rush it

[nimble knoll]

But mi just want Enty,

[carmine heath]

what auxs are you meant to put on rumie (would the oil drop tank be useful instead of SR steam catapult)

[barren tapir]

2x gold cata, purple cata/oiltank if you dont have enough

[storm heron]

huhh looks better than pre oilcap even without bonus

[barren tapir]

correcto

[gusty warren]

Is this cannon worth anything?

[carmine heath]

rubs hands no more general parts for me i guess

[storm heron]

bad cannon

[gusty warren]

bad cannon?

[nimble knoll]

I don't have enough purples

[carmine heath]

with the missions i find the leveling ships part is more difficult (gears will naturally get levelled as you become wealthy )

[nimble knoll]

Wait what does Uni need for her Retro?

[carmine heath]

of course thats also because I hate portland and laffey with a passion but shhhhhhh

[thorn tartan]

are the rewards available in the advanced challenge viewable somewhere?

[carmine heath]

nothing special just the tier 3 carrier retro blueprints + a bulin + lvl 90 (I think?)

[nimble knoll]

Also why is the game forcing me to use the promise ring I have.. I want to save it for Enty

[thorn tartan]

you don't have to use it

[grizzled sundial]

You don't have to

[nimble knoll]

I see

[carmine heath]

you dont have to

[thorn tartan]

you can collect the reward sometime in the future

[carmine heath]

also chances are youll roll enty at some point down the line

especially if you start pulling in ur events

[nimble knoll]

Like dis

[thorn tartan]

i just scrapped an enty. she was in the event pull last event

[nimble knoll]

I did last event, I got two UR's

[thorn tartan]

or d3 not sure which

[carmine heath]

Actually why is enty considered good

[nimble knoll]

Good for starting ig?

[carmine heath]

because her skill seems... mediocre?

[thorn tartan]

she has a skill that doubles her attack i think. very good

[soft raft]

Her skill is that cracked
Esp since theoretically as new gear comes out, her damage potential goes higher

[carmine heath]

will dwell on this

[soft raft]

It is basically a straight up 2x multiplier for her damage output

This has let her remain pretty competitive with UR CVs

[barren tapir]

yeah it sucks

[nimble knoll]

I did a special build and I got aquila.. Is she good or nah?

[barren tapir]

one of the best campaign and opsi mob ships

[nimble knoll]

Wat da-

[barren tapir]

dont build outside events but u basically won the jackpot when it comes to permanent pool ships lmfao

[nimble knoll]

LMAO-

[nimble knoll]

Should I build her or not yet?

[night marsh]

too much ship, less time and resource

[nimble knoll]

I only do have 2 SR Bullins.. So I can't MLB her-

[keen sable]

immediate build

[carmine heath]

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[keen sable]

it's not like yorkii or gz are built right?

[carmine heath]

randomly rolling aquila im so jealous

[nimble knoll]

Yup

[nimble knoll]

Yeh I just did a random pull, I didn't expect her to come home-

My luck when I want something else.. Is very good-

[carmine heath]

Im regretting using 80 cubes to try and pull for event ships I thought fu shun was buildable

shouldve saved the cubes

[nimble knoll]

I can only Limit break her 2 times, and I don't have any Xp packs.

And I don't know what planes I should use for her

[keen sable]

same as gz and yorkii. fighter, db, tb

[nimble knoll]

My fighter and Torp bombers

[nimble knoll]

She has two Fighers..

[keen sable]

ahh my bad i thought it was fighter on mlb

fighter fighter tb then

[nimble knoll]

What should I use for her then? I don't have much.. As you can see-

[keen sable]

strip yorkii and gz of fighters. poverty swordfish i guess

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[nimble knoll]

So for Aux?

[nimble knoll]

What should I use for her?

[wind hazel]

god damn you're poor

[keen sable]

toolkit + fire because she's what L1?

[nimble knoll]

Ouch..

[foggy chasm]

whats the command for armor and whats good against it?

[nimble knoll]

She's not lb as of rn but lemme lb

[keen sable]

not like you have anything offensive so...

[wind hazel]

armor?

[carmine heath]

actually has more oil than me

[nimble knoll]

I can't even lb her first.. She needs to be level 10

[carmine heath]

[foggy chasm]

like medium armor and wahts good against medium armor

and the % thing, like HE does full dmg ? and AP does less or smth

[wind hazel]

AP gun, la9 bf109g planes

skyraider

[nimble knoll]

Who should I replace for Aquila?

[keen sable]

nelson

[storm heron]

oversimplification is damage of BB guns HE 3:2:1, AP 1:3:2

[nimble knoll]

And where should she be? The same place?

[keen sable]

boss?

you mean aquila? vv flag

[foggy chasm]

wait AP strongest against medium? i thought it was heavy

[nimble knoll]

Aight, Aquila will be behind Laffey?

[keen sable]

umm it is...

[cobalt gate]

sap?

[carmine heath]

Are AP damage modifiers in reverse order or something? I have several HE guns that apparently have a higher modifier against heavy armour than ap

[storm heron]

sap not important and not worth considering

[storm heron]

well DD guns are different from BB guns so

[nimble knoll]

Should I put Aquila in the dorms?

[keen sable]

AP is 1.5x better than HE on medium and 2x better than HE on heavy....by doggo's scale...

[storm heron]

I was talking about BB guns btw since most damage comes from main fleet

[keen sable]

if you want to micromanage your dorm go ahead

[nimble knoll]

Should I replace Uni, Laffey Or Yk2?

[wind hazel]

tbh i would just keep aquila for 2nd fleet. lv1 or lv30 aquila isnt gonna help much

[nimble knoll]

True but I need her to get levels

[wind hazel]

raise your fleet to average 100, you'll start producing exp books then

stop messing around with your fleet so much, focus on them

[nimble knoll]

Ig Aquila will just be in the 2nd fleet with Yk2-

[jagged marlin]

Hi guys I’m new is there any guides/video to watch cause I played for 1hr and I’m kinda really lost and dk what to do

[wind hazel]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[carmine heath]

a minute until I ping everyone in my server to lock in for dailies

[jagged marlin]

O thx

[ashen pecan]

Does Haku and Agir have fate simulations?

[vale spindle]

haku yes agir nope

[ashen pecan]

thank you

[jagged marlin]

is the new banner characters good?

[elfin hollow]

are common ships worth anything? most of my greys are level 30 from doing commissions now and I prefer scrapping them as a last resort when dock spaces go low

[night marsh]

no

[barren tapir]

fleet tech

[dreamy blade]

theyre easy to get tech points

[elfin hollow]

good damage dealer or should I focus on retroing Z23?

[dreamy blade]

not good, was only used for meme stall techs in pvp

[elfin hollow]

aight. I guess she's for the commissions fleet XD

[cobalt gate]

line formation doesn't help cv right

[atomic abyss]

they only benefit the vanguard really

[cobalt gate]

as i thought

[atomic abyss]

tho i suppose circle helps the backline if they're killing more planes

[cobalt gate]

Yeah been using circle. Just 3 star air carrier with no ammo is dangerous for back row

[night marsh]

wrong channel

[nocturne glade]

is Unicorn safe to 125?

[cobalt rapids]

yes but not the highest prio

[nocturne glade]

alright, ty!

[tender girder]

I just got chien wu. she any good? should she replace anyone in my vanguard?

i'm at W5... using portland, Z23, and helena

[atomic abyss]

no

[atomic abyss]

none of the chinese ships in the build for this event would replace your beginner vanguards

[elfin hollow]

it's almost a bait to say the least XD

unless you wanna get fleet tech i guess?

[atomic abyss]

well

considering it is in light build
you'd still want to do 1x light build a day ordinarily so

might as well

[barren tapir]

apparently, circular applies to whole fleet, so it also helps backline by reducing damage taken from planes (on top of just killing more planes) and marginally improves backliner aa guns, if applicable

[rapid grail]

the roombas i equipped on my CVLs

[faint jacinth]

hi, what to use on krons if i dont have her guns?

[atomic abyss]

agir gun

[rapid grail]

guam gun + chapayev gun if you got it
aegir gun + chapayev gun (np gun is preferable)

[peak moat]

Questions on skill books. I have like 8 morbillion t1/t2 books, and I know that t3 is the most time efficient. Is it worth upgrading to t3 even though it’s a waste of xp for the upgrade?

[atomic abyss]

imo worth

[barren tapir]

if youll never run out of books, definitely worth. i convert about 80% and keep 20% in reserve just in case

[noble tulip]

Which one would you build from ?

[wind hazel]

the one with flame

[cobalt gate]

just wanted to confirm, the support fleet will not send out wyvern right? its just fighters

[boreal wagon]

correct

[atomic abyss]

yes just fighters

[cobalt gate]

ok time to give this wyvern to main fleet

also the 4% increase using homing isn't shown on the flight time on gear screen right

[atomic abyss]

correct

[warm trail]

we can get yat sen in this event?

[rose cosmos]

Wait so it's not worth doing normal and easy right?

[atomic abyss]

not on rate up

[atomic abyss]

yep

[warm trail]

where

[atomic abyss]

she's just there, in light

but there is a selector iirc

[warm trail]

where selector

[warm trail]

thanks!

[cobalt gate]

so i'm thinking, should i +13 3 flapjacks or +13 the 2nd skyraider, or wait for la 9

[atomic abyss]

la-9 or skyraider

[rose cosmos]

Is Theseus worth getting

[cobalt gate]

i see

[lament ledge]

new event lags my phone so bad 😭

[atomic abyss]

check pins

[hoary relic]

will we lose the guild tech if we switch guild?

[sweet delta]

U keep the ones you bought

[elfin hollow]

This event, play hard and ex only as always?

[hoary relic]

play ez and med if u want extra loots and currently sparing tons of oils i guess

[runic bluff]

what site again you guys use when sending your fleet composition with gears?

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/
or
https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[unique lantern]

arent pr/dr ships supposed to get their fate sim when they are coinable? or did i misunderstand? ägir still no fate sim

[atomic abyss]

not at all

PR6 got their fate sim last july
they arent coinable yet, and they only just got catch-up

DRs dont even have a regular fate sim release pattern

[unique lantern]

:c at least i can coin my haku now

[cobalt gate]

if i equp 2 golden burst does gthe barrage only trigger once or twice

[carmine heath]

Is there a difference between the f6f and the f4u?

[dense briar]

Can you guys help me build a mobbing fleet?

[humble summit]

does the 1k proto in medal shop count as monthly limit?

[inland shoal]

No

[humble summit]

retro unicorn

[dense briar]

Im working on it

[inland shoal]

Only once, it's still the same skill and same skills don't stack unless specified otherwise

[cobalt gate]

i see

yeah was wondering since i equiped it on 2 different ships

just realized i was getting 73 points per assist, wow i'm doing 1.05 mil. wonder whats the threshold

[night crow]

Anyone have a good idea if Hwah Jah retrofit makes her good now ? At least better than Chen Hai retrofit ?

thx

[cunning bison]

/15 runs

oops wrong place

[elfin hollow]

aviation oil tanks

are they good? I got a purple one now

[night marsh]

hello, how to remove red dot notification on justagram?

[left cedar]

read them all

kinda not literally, just click visualize and close it, do it with all them in both tabs

[left cedar]

works for mid game where u lack gold cata, is identical to purple cata in practice

[night marsh]

wheres the visualize button

[left cedar]

!?
just open one by one

[cobalt gate]

i do wonder if the oil tanks are good for the support fleet

[left cedar]

u wanna AVI Stats for supp fleet, and that is it
the more, the better

[elfin hollow]

I analyzed the prototype cards (blue ones with roman numerals) am I screwed? or I can recover them in the future?

[cobalt gate]

i see, thought it would matter since feels like chap 15 is just full of planes. so plane interception speed doesn't affect speed of support fleets either?

[left cedar]

analyze them is the better thing to do

[cunning bison]

depends, wht roman numeral was it

[elfin hollow]

the III and II i believe

[cunning bison]

you're fine

[left cedar]

u wanna slowerp lanes for better interception, not fast ones

[cunning bison]

probs dont do for V and above tho

[left cedar]

every and all prototype cards u just analyze them

XP is the chepest and easiest resourcer around ... Protocore is one of the rarest

[cobalt gate]

wait slow ones?

[left cedar]

is dumb easy to understood the value there

[elfin hollow]

I got enough of the analyzed products to buy myself enough BP for the triple 381mm AA gun design but i don't think I'll need it given how low level I am

[runic bluff]

are ib subs good or there is others ( latest subs like flasher)??

[cobalt gate]

i mean i just use flapjacks, and then gold ones for the last

[left cedar]

slower it is, more times it fires his guns
of course, guns on it is the thing, thats why Pancake is the best supp plane around

its slower but have a gud amount of guns, so he can have a better use of it cuz he have better chances to fire 2x in course

[night marsh]

ok so i click 40 chat now, since no "read all" button

[rare wyvern]

The event DDG missile is the good one right ? The one better than the core shop one ?

[cobalt gate]

i thought interception rof was how fast it reloads till next batch of interception can be used?

[elfin hollow]

wait the core shop one isn't a SY-1 missile?

[boreal wagon]

what esdeath is talking about is actual plane speed not rof

[boreal wagon]

it is but the event one is SY-1A which is a tad better

[cobalt gate]

oh i see, i forgot the oil adds the airplane speed, was more focused on the giving hp part for planes

[runic bluff]

it is the SY-1 missile.....the event gives the SY-1A

[left cedar]

nowadays 3 SSs fleets are possible
KMS SSs U81, U96 and U37, U47 can work as replace of any of them
USS SSs Flahser, Alba and i forgot the last one
Strong solos, Leo, U47, and a collab one that i forgot name

[cunning bison]

archerfish?

[sharp token]

thoughts about chien wu?

[runic bluff]

homura?

[cobalt gate]

btw anyone know damage needed to get 75 sync points for taihou meta

[elfin hollow]

would Z23 benefit from one? or should I stick to autoloader and Toolbox for aux?

[left cedar]

i think that it is, but my memory for things i dont use isnt the best thing so i'm not gona confirm

[boreal wagon]

z23 cannot equip a missile

missiles are exclusive to DGG retrofits they basically replace their torps
they arent an auxiliary

[cunning bison]

only ddgs can

[runic bluff]

only an-shan class retrofitted ddg can

[cunning bison]

(and fu shun)

[boreal wagon]

fu shun is also an shan class

[elfin hollow]

oh thank god An Shan is literally free at this point XD

[left cedar]

yeah, this one

[cunning bison]

mbmb

[runic bluff]

do flagship pos matters in these 3 sub teams??

[plain saffron]

How's new ddg compared to older ones

[boreal wagon]

we dont even have her unlocked yet

[left cedar]

pretty sure does
i can only gives u 100% in KMS one, that should be U96

iirc its Homura in strongsolos, and in USS is the Flasher iirc, but not sure here

[wind hazel]

usually albacore isn't it

because of her barrage

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[cunning bison]

wld perseus be bttr than uni in opsi cuz of her cross-fleet?