gameplay-help

[storm heron]

i inface didnt see it

[south sequoia]

lmao whos april boss again?

[stark quiver]

Yukikaze

Healing balls

[forest palm]

fight was easy

[wet badge]

are ddgs even good

are they better than a fully rainbow vanguard

[thin haven]

Is Yorktown II is good in the Mob fleet?

[wet badge]

pretty sure all urs can do both mobbing and bossing

[thin haven]

Alr ty

[hollow gust]

they can specialize in different stuff

[wet badge]

like what

[hollow gust]

DDGs are extremly strong on light armor, torp focused UR vanguards will lose to them ofc, if its vs shima they probaly beat her in medium too considering how much she whiffs

[faint cloud]

Considering their cost they should be the really UR

[hollow gust]

They are purple retrofits and even cheaper if you get the items for free

[faint cloud]

wdym, i do mean they're cheap

[sweet delta]

They're good for low cost clearing C and D maps before oil cap activates and good against light bosses if you lack the best of the best URs

[bold stream]

Hello all. I am looking for royal navy tech for marco to plymoth.

I have nine ssr bullins should I go lv70 break some of these Ssr royal navy ships I have? I lack 180 royal techs.

Hakuryuu is only 450/950 which will take forever...

[sweet delta]

Go aegir

[bold stream]

I finished aeigir already just waiting for 50k gold...

I also just finished ancho..

[sweet delta]

There's no rush for Marco or Plymouth, you can go get another pr1-pr3 ship for catch-up protocore

[bold stream]

? I thought the thing is to finish marco so that all I can get is prints for aegir and hakuuryu?

[viscid swift]

not at this stage no

[sweet delta]

That hasn't been worth doing for months, and now with aegir and haku coining very soon it's absolutely not worth

[blissful marlin]

If a ship is capped in exp because of limit break will any exp it gains get counted towards pr progress

[bold stream]

I have roon, FdG, Ancho, AvP and aegir completed. Which ships from pr 1-3 should I go for then?

[viscid swift]

yes but I would avoid such a scenario

[blissful marlin]

Ok thanks

[sweet delta]

Cheshire works as tech points for Plymouth, and you can do the coin to dev 30 before catch-up thing

If I refreshed into this shit, should I use tomorrow's refresh?

[viscid swift]

you're opposed to getting more Plymouth gun prints?

[weary gust]

Just take the 1:30 v

[viscid swift]

I'd just eat the 1:30 lost time rather than risk getting an even worse selection twice tomorrow

[bold stream]

If I am going for Cheshire which needs royal vanguard exp. Which of my vanguard ships is worth lvling?

[sweet delta]

None

[viscid swift]

they're all just tech

[weary gust]

Worth none, but might as well run jav and london and york for the cdc.

[cobalt gate]

how much harder is hard arbitrator vs normal?

[viscid swift]

which basically the CAs and Swiftsure

[weary gust]

Much, and you can only fight once with each fleet instead of recovering with fleet order.

[sweet delta]

I onestriked normal arbiter without subs and needed subs to one strike hard arbiter

[cobalt gate]

i did beat normal with 1 fleet

[sweet delta]

No Sirius in medal shop?

[weary gust]

If you can one fleet normal you can likely do hard.

[cobalt gate]

subs still usable right

[bold stream]

So amazon, jav and another dd is not worth it?

[viscid swift]

well none of the RN DDs bar 2 give good tech

[weary gust]

Doesn't matter which realistically, vanguard might die with 3 dds though.

Depends how good your mainfleet/gear is.

[bold stream]

I see thanks! I was thinking of using amazon to cheese some royal vanguard exp..

Is there any note worth royal navy DD I can buy from guildcoins?

[weary gust]

~~Are there any noteworthy royal navy DDs to begin with ~~

[whole crypt]

Jervis had her time

[sweet delta]

Eskimo and Nubian have FP?

[viscid swift]

Eskimo is the only Purple DD with MGM+1 I guess

[sweet delta]

There are legends of Comet being used to low cost SP

[stark quiver]

whats the fastest way to spend coins w/o cats

[undone plover]

limit breaks
retrofits
awakening

[stark quiver]

i have never hit coin cap b4, but here we are lol

[uneven cave]

Would york2/enty/kear with all mk7, ad2 and hvar be the best choice in opsi light

[bold stream]

I just noticed I can get sirius from medal shop. So Sirius Jav and Amazon maybe? I will run them mushasi + unicorn. I can even use double healer like ryuuho or my newly acquired aquila.

[elfin hollow]

I'm wondering do box nationality matters

like if sakura has gear superior to royal navy or something

[uneven cave]

Eagle is superior to the rest

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't bother with the DDs
The grind will be quick anyway and as I said earlier neither gives good 120 tech

[stark quiver]

so according to quyet, soy nakh fritz 4 strike is better than , eu's 3 strike with 2 ad1
but then again its quyet so

[elfin hollow]

i have 3 options in supply

1. Royal navy boxes (x5)
2. Sakura Boxes (x5)
3. Eagle box (x1)

[sweet delta]

Sirius, Aquila, two more HMS vanguard ships, two more main fleet ships who need exp

[weary gust]

Buying gearboxes from the shop is something you do when you have literally nothing else to buy.

[elfin hollow]

I'm kinda short on Purples. Hoping to pull a good CL and CA gun

[bold stream]

So swiftsure, sirius + london?

[viscid swift]

if you can spare the gold bullins for Swiftsure sure ig

[uneven cave]

Wait which tb would I be using on enty? One of the converging ones, or just slap a spare wyvern?

[sweet delta]

You do not buy boxes in supply shop except for the cheapest ones for your new player mission or 80%-90% discounted gold boxes

[bold stream]

i have 9? That is a bit low right?

[elfin hollow]

yeah prolly I'll pass on those since it's three hours till new day. I'll wait for the discounted ones XD

[sweet delta]

I think you meant swiftsure

[elfin hollow]

anyways what to do with this one? looks cool

[viscid swift]

yes I did

[viscid swift]

yes and doing both Sirius and Swiftsure would knock you down to 1 and you clearly need a lot more tech

[weary gust]

One of the better purple gears for CLs I guess.

[sweet delta]

Sirius, London, and some other purple. Javelin would be easiest shes already leveled

[viscid swift]

actually take one of the counties, you'll want the gems

[bold stream]

Okay copy. I need some torps stats to pad my hard mode team too. So jav is kinda okay!

[weary gust]

Never heard them called "the counties" before.

[uneven cave]

Am I better off giving enty a convering torp or slapping a spare wyvern

[viscid swift]

They're literally the County class of Heavy Cruiser

[barren tapir]

is she bossing or mobbing?

[uneven cave]

Boss w/ kear & yk2

[weary gust]

conv for boss, parallel for mob

[uneven cave]

Idk cause torp multipliers against light ain’t great and I’m not running a slow

[wind hazel]

but wyvern is also a torpedo...

[viscid swift]

yeah...

[uneven cave]

And?

[plain saffron]

torp that hit is better than torp that don't hit, assuming boss fleet

[wind hazel]

so pick the one that hit stronger

[viscid swift]

"Idk cause torp multipliers against light ain’t great "

well what do you mean by that then

that statement may be true but both are TBs so they're both in the same boat in that regards

[uneven cave]

A question as to whether it makes much of a difference

[plain saffron]

wyvern torp is better but iirc it won't hit enough to deal more dmg than converging

[viscid swift]

no but the better question is why aren't you running a slow/freeze at all

[uneven cave]

Do I need one

Everyone’s running hvar & skyraider

[weary gust]

If you want consistent max damage output, you do.

[sweet delta]

Temperance will roll over no matter what you do

[viscid swift]

against any decently quick moving boss it would be preferable yes

[uneven cave]

What are the slow options that are better for this fleet? Nakh/Soyuz and Implac are on other fleets
Unless it’d be better to swap out enty for bis2 or smth

[viscid swift]

is this for OpSi or

[barren tapir]

isnt temperance the one with the jellyfish shield

[uneven cave]

Yeah

[viscid swift]

I'll be honest I just set up one main boss fleet depending on the boss each month

[uneven cave]

Whether it’s be temperance or some abyssal (yes i know i can brute force with some other fleet)

[barren tapir]

i am cooked

[sweet delta]

not if you kill temperance before the jellyfish spawns
||coming soon™️||

[weary gust]

I don't even do that much, I have 1 fleet for anti light, 1 for anti med, and one for anti heavy, and a mobbing fleet. I do not change them month to month.

[viscid swift]

I can't be bothered to keep that many fleets geared up

so it's just the main boss fleet for harbiter, BBs to take care of Abyssals, and 2 mob fleets

[sweet delta]

one BB fleet, one nakhsoyuz fleet, one implac fleet. The implac fleet can be your USS or IJN. Or you can revert to 2023 and do one BB, one USS+AvP, one IJN+Implac

[viscid swift]

one for strongholds and one for everything else to level stuff

I will have to just settle for a one shot rather than a one strike

no clue what happened to Nakhimov

[barren tapir]

didnt give enough cat treats

[sweet delta]

if she struck after yorkii, maybe nakhi hit water when jellyfish died and hit water when temperance died

[viscid swift]

no she launched before

+10 Skyraider probably did it

[sweet delta]

tldr non-USS CV bad because no Guam/NJ crossfleet

[viscid swift]

that was actually without NJ or Guam cross fleets

let me try something

Hmmm

[eager mulch]

[final heart]

is this better?

[late flame]

depends

[final heart]

does it only matter in opsi when I can check for armor type?

[stark quiver]

left is better for heavy armor
right is better for light/med armor

[hollow gust]

Why Eldridge?

[stark quiver]

3 uss

[viscid swift]

because this took 3 strikes to kill and I need the vanguard to live for that long

[whole crypt]

it's not like bosses outside of OS have random armour

[hollow gust]

Helena or even Bristol if you are Qyuet, my voroshilov survives usually

[exotic wren]

how many hvars are needed as much?

[final heart]

I didn't know this, I've just been balling with one fleet

[exotic wren]

felt like my english glitched, how many at most i mean

[whole crypt]

all enemies have fixed armour types, it's just that in OS bosses are random in abyssals and arbiters cycle monthly

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/bosses use this to search bosses by the boss name or map name

[exotic wren]

danke

[weary gust]

Also you can normally guess boss armor type by their hull class. dd/cl = light, ca/cv = med, bb = heavy. There are exceptions but that's the general trend.

[strange sphinx]

Do I need to 3 star normal or it is just for auto farm?

[weary gust]

you need to clear the stage for auto, stars have nothing to do with it. And no, you don't need to 3*.

[strange sphinx]

ic tnx

[hollow gust]

Whats the newer fleet builder called?

[stark quiver]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[mellow cape]

Sushi was banned?

[strange sphinx]

huh?

[mellow cape]

https://youtu.be/wctKgHCfy5I?si=jrNkg-NgmsBL_Zk-

[sweet delta]

not a gph

[mellow cape]

Oh shit my bad

I can take it general but am sorry for you sushi

[elfin hollow]

Should I replace Agir with Napoli as a main tank in my OpSi AP BB fleet?

[hollow gust]

Doesn’t change much or at all

Also 85 bar airstrike, so close

[hollow gust]

How many strikes was it

[jagged harness]

I agree with you it doesn't actually, they still do same, even if he replace agir with napoli, its still stronger

By the way hello

[hollow gust]

Napoli is stronger how?

[viscid swift]

3

[stark quiver]

try the quyet strat

[jagged harness]

I got direct my bad i mean its still stronger

[stark quiver]

you almost one strike?

[hollow gust]

Those two fulfil the same thing, only differences they have is that Agir has a AB and Napoli is tankier. Either way won’t change much for opsi, since BBs are trash

[jagged harness]

This is specific tbh and i agree

[hollow gust]

Huh that shouldn’t need to happen , I two strikes mine

[soft raft]

I wonder, is this month's arbiter the squishiest out of the three

Cuz when I put my BB fleet against Harbiter, the next time I looked back at my phone, it had been chunked to like 20-30 bars towards the end of the fight

[storm heron]

u guys don't just put fleets with template equip and 4-fleet harby no problemo?

[hollow gust]

Harby is the only joy I find in opsi, I’m not going to ruin it

[storm heron]

nana good?

[barren tapir]

[jagged harness]

Nana is quite good or bad i guess

[barren tapir]

well i cannot actually test her against yuudachi until further notice because im low on arrays and need all of them for this month's CM, and no doubt for next month's CM too

[jagged harness]

What kind of qjestion is this

[barren tapir]

besides after some thought i can see why they underestimate nana, torp ships arent particularly super good for new players and it's an earlygame tierlist

[storm heron]

question of whether harby is trivial with 4 top fleets and template setups which I guess they would've have already given their ancient time on this game

[sweet delta]

nana is the best for new players though, it's so cheap to put a blue 76 and get maximum potential out of her

[soft raft]

?
That was with just the BB fleet hence my surprise

[barren tapir]

[hollow gust]

If I max my 2nd Skyraider I could prob one strike , too expensive

[barren tapir]

well also she needs her augment to do anything

without her augment she only has the targeted priority lightning strike and that's it

[jagged harness]

Same too much expensive tbh

[sweet delta]

collab augment quite cheap

meanwhile i one strike with 0 skyraiders

[barren tapir]

i have no idea why ectl came to t2 conclusion tho, theres no public discussion i could find and my question got ignored so idk LOL

[quartz jungle]

Nana should do about as much damage as Kitakaze vs heavy?

[storm heron]

kitakaze no mog vs nana

then we're talking

[barren tapir]

they mightve been baited by her decent (for torp ship) mgeff and fp i guess. i remember the difference when i first swapped her from twin128 to single 113, night and day

[quartz jungle]

Vs heavy she wants the 100 mm anyways

[storm heron]

Oh

[sweet delta]

or they just didn't test her

[viscid swift]

ECTL pretty much won't get into debates over ships that are preliminary tagged

Hence why you probably got ignored

[fair creek]

Is Yorktown II good for the current meta?

[stark quiver]

what meta

[sweet delta]

how long does preliminary tag last

[soft raft]

Until they remember to update the list again

[sweet delta]

/thread NanaEndscreens

[fair creek]

I've seen alot of people using battleship rather than cv in exersice leaderboard so i think i might be regreting pulling for yorktown II if it's bad

[sweet delta]

NanaEndscreens

[soft raft]

#pvp is that way
It is also irrelevant for 99% of the playerbase so you shouldn't be splitting hairs over her because of that

Iirc CVs have been pretty out of the PvP meta for a while now, you can ask them why if you want

[fair creek]

Oh ok thanks!

[viscid swift]

Until they're comfortable with it I guess

[keen sable]

they have a discord. ask them

[barren tapir]

thats kinda weird, i feel like prelim should mean theyre particularly contentious until theyve been properly analyzed

[barren tapir]

and get ignored

[keen sable]

that's your problem with ectl. why drag it here

[viscid swift]

To them it pretty much means that this rating is purely speculatory and not worth debating because we can't back that claim

Or something to that degree

[verbal thistle]

Hello. If I had to choose to upgrade either the Pancake, or the Proto-Vit 2 (mode Change), which should I upgrade?

[barren tapir]

i wasnt the one to bring it up, im simply responding

[barren tapir]

aaah that makes more sense then

[wind hazel]

you mean past +10?

[verbal thistle]

[wind hazel]

vit2

[verbal thistle]

Appreciate it.

[jagged harness]

What is pancake

[keen sable]

flapjack

[jagged harness]

My bad I thought it would see delicious

[final heart]

how does evasion work in this game?
my fritz has 102 acc but I see she misses on a boss with 48 eva quite often already

[whole crypt]

PvP functions quite differently from PvE, it's just that the current meta for that favours some BB setups, but you're still going to be using carriers pretty much everywhere else

[late flame]

#pvp pinned message, go read there

[south sequoia]

Misses as in the projectiles are hitting a boss directly and it has a miss message?

[frank pulsar]

eva is part of a formula
luck and hit work against eva and luck
iirc its normal to have a hitrate of arnd 70% for backliners

[fair creek]

Alright thanks for explaining

[final heart]

not hitting the boss more than seeing miss message

[frank pulsar]

if youre physically missing either you brought wrong plane or you need a slow/stop

[south sequoia]

Physical Misses are different from Evasion misses

[whole crypt]

evasion is only involved when you see the miss feedback, geometrically/physically missing a ship has nothing to do with evasioin/accuracy stats

[mild sail]

Hit boxes

[final heart]

these are my gears and stats for her and this is the problem I only see she encounters with D1 event boss

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Hit_Rate

[mild sail]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/cv?ship=fritz_rumey

[frank pulsar]

rocket planes like the skyraider you have equipped usually need a slow to reliably land all of their rockets

[mild sail]

ARMOR
HEAVY ARMOR

[late flame]

EN for sure

[final heart]

D1 is light tho

[frank pulsar]

fritz can probably brute force regardless since its d1

[thin haven]

Can New Jersey and Yorktown II can be in the same fleet?

[final heart]

yeah I can clear very easily, I'm just a little worried cus it might affect future battles

[whole crypt]

my D fleet is Rumey+52, that said fleet 2 is crossfleet stack

[jagged harness]

Not the best but Its Good

[thin haven]

Why is that?

[whole crypt]

they can be in the same fleet but what do you want to use the fleet for

[thin haven]

Boss fleet

[frank pulsar]

just keep in mind single target planes like rocket planes and converging torpedo bombers need a slow/stop most of the time to reliably land their hits
for regular mob/campaign clearing stick to bomb fighters and parallel torpedo bombers

[final heart]

so her own slow doesn't help since it's launched slightly behind her initial airstrike?

[mild sail]

If you don't know what to put on your CV
Purple Helldiver
You just can't go wrong with a few Helldiver

[whole crypt]

boss fleet where, NJ and Yorktown II don't exactly have something that works together in the same fleet

[barren tapir]

rumey slow is basically nonexistent

[frank pulsar]

30% is very weak slow, when i said i slow i meant 60-80% slow

[final heart]

hm I'll switch over to saratoga when I retrofit her then

[thin haven]

But it's still good to put them both on the same fleet right?

[barren tapir]

rumey should beat sara easily

[whole crypt]

you're putting 2 good ships together in a fleet, they have no synergy but it'll work

[thin haven]

Alr thanks

[barren tapir]

at least on boss, on mob idk, both are probably quite good, they have good loadouts for mob and staggered dmg. but rumey loadout can also be good for boss, sara is meh (on most bosses)

[frank pulsar]

you can try smth like hellcat + helldiver and it should be better than sara

[keen sable]

you've never seen sara's aux gun miss then

[jagged harness]

As long as they have a gear necessarily to add its fire power and air superior should good to go

[barren tapir]

[jagged harness]

Lmao forgive for my late reply

[barren tapir]

sara usually hits her first shot, the issue is she cannot reaim after firing, so her next 2 salvos will always go where the first went

in mobbing this rarely is an issue because there's usually something to hit anyway

[final heart]

it's still better like this for extra accuracy even if I'm farming D1 boss (light armor)?

[whole crypt]

just putting good ships together with proper gear it's pretty much trivial until ch13 anyway

[barren tapir]

and her plane barrage is the main deal

[keen sable]

bombs are like the worst

[barren tapir]

idk how rumey aux works but ik it has higher shell velocity and 0 spread, so it probably is less likely to miss.

[keen sable]

well maybe parallel is by default worse

[frank pulsar]

aoe dmg means its easier to wipe out the adds around the boss as well

[jagged harness]

I also often used that on CH 11, I didn't know it can still do CH13😔

[frank pulsar]

d1 boss is dying regardless so just use whichever you like imho

[barren tapir]

d1 boss likes skyraider, might as well keep it

[whole crypt]

12 needs some AA, 13 needs more AA but that's about it, it's only 14 and 15 that gets messy

[final heart]

oh I'm yapping about dive bombers, not torpedo bombers (not like I have any good torp bomber to yap about anyway )

literally my torp bomber stock + purple swordfish

[whole crypt]

skyraider is pretty much an anti-light/medium specific bossing plane that you basically don't use outside of OS, showdowns and maybe CM

[jagged harness]

TBF Avenger when you have a lot of elite ships you dont use:

[final heart]

I got them all from chest, my luck is that ass with torp bomber

[keen sable]

skyraider says dive bomber but it's not a particularly divey bomber. it's generally considered a rocket bomber.

[whole crypt]

the only acutally useful TBs from boxes are baraccudas and tenzan which are both poverty/transition

[keen sable]

i would actually say you literally do not have a more geometrically accurate plane than skyraider

[jagged harness]

Any tips if i still continue using laffey😔

[keen sable]

so if skyraider missing bothers you, wait until you try other planes

[final heart]

oh

[final heart]

yeah guess I'll just be happy that some of them hit

btw if I can't put a good barrage gun on fritz then should I put an AA on her?

I have none of this besides the purple, which is the only one on my nelson rn

[keen sable]

it's generally bad on nelson

also do you not use helena?

or any cl for that matter

[final heart]

I do use her
my team rn is fritz uni nelson port helena starter dd

[keen sable]

helena wants tbtsk more than fritz does and way more than nelson does

[final heart]

what else should I give nelson then?

[keen sable]

also you're still one fleeting?

twin 152 middle left

[final heart]

yes, second fleet is just for stat stuffing

[keen sable]

helena's gun kind of works too for nelson

[final heart]

yeah I just switch them for each other

[cobalt gate]

is there a good guide on cat?

[barren tapir]

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[barren tapir]

oh wait i thought it would just link riceists guide mb LOL

[mild sail]

I like the preemptive strike skills

[sweet delta]

i don't, they add animation time

[storm heron]

very bad when f6f farming

[quartz jungle]

Does you mean preloads?

Or the carrier fastload skills?

[ripe bluff]

hvars on kearsarge?

[wind hazel]

who asked

[crimson glacier]

ok so why post here about it

[late flame]

#trophy-room exists

[thin haven]

I forget my apologies

[nimble knoll]

This Is Good Right?

[keen sable]

helena middle. underlevel = squishy

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[hallow mountain]

so far it's your main team right?

you gotta prioritize Unicorn

She's one of the best units in the game

good damage and consistent healing if you max her retrofit skill

[crimson glacier]

you mean her non retrofit skill

[hallow mountain]

ah right

but iirc i thought it's better if she's retrofitted

[nocturne glade]

retrofitting upgrades it to have a fastload

[crimson glacier]

well the skill gets upgraded on retrofit, still needs it to heal

[hallow mountain]

nah im right

it's better healing if she's retrofitted

[crimson glacier]

retrofit doesnt matter at all when you want to max that skill asap anyway

[nocturne glade]

noone said it healed less

[hallow mountain]

yeah but i didn't say it's bad if it's not retrofitted

[nocturne glade]

he was just making a point that skill is avilable pre retrofit

[storm heron]

[hallow mountain]

it's just better in general so he gotta retrofit her

[wind hazel]

bro, relax. it's a lv62 unicorn

[hallow mountain]

well she gotta grow up soon

[wind hazel]

28 levels away, chill

[slow fox]

Laffey probably tankiest

(bevause she is highest level by 10 or so)

[nimble knoll]

Nelson Has 3927 Hp, While Laffey Has 1184 (Nelson Has The Highest Hp In My Fleet)

[sweet delta]

eHP master gets DESTROYED by pure facts

[wind hazel]

[crimson glacier]

backline hp doesnt matter

[slow fox]

That's a splendid observation. If we could ask Nelson to tank for us, I'm sure we'd be ecstatic.

suchispotted

[nimble knoll]

Lmao-

[slow fox]

However, Nelson is too scared to step up for us.

[late flame]

bb to vanguard switch when

[nimble knoll]

I'm surprised that My Laffey Hasn't Died Once (In The Story And Event)

[slow fox]

We have ddg at home

[slow fox]

Laffey is fairly resilient at basically every stage in the game if you have her levelled properly (it looks like you're on the way).

[nimble knoll]

Also Should I Grind Hard Mode Or The Normal Mode Of The Event? (Cuz I'm At B2 In the hard mode, and I haven't touched the normal mode)

[nocturne glade]

grind the oilcapped maps if you can reach them

[storm heron]

wait how are you at B2 in the hard mode

[nimble knoll]

Idk

[storm heron]

event hard mode is C1-D3

[crimson glacier]

A and B are normal mode

[wary escarp]

u gotta click hard to enter hard mode

[crimson glacier]

C and D are hard mode

[nimble knoll]

Oh I'm a dumbass

Guh, I need more levels smh

[slow fox]

We all get there someday. There there.

[little tree]

Me bot will number let me farm 4 hvars in time

[turbid marsh]

then why not just go for b3 and farm the pt. at least get the good stuff in shop.

get 5x pt for a-b, and do as much as you can.

[slow fox]

164% of Portland with 33% STD

[humble tapir]

what does helenas retrofit do?

[nimble knoll]

I wasted 2,800+ on the Gold tech packs.. Smh (It was before I joined the server)

[little tree]

[nimble knoll]

Okei

But I was somewhat struggling with B-1.. I don't think I can beat b-2-

[cobalt gate]

i'm starting to feel like affinity is harder to farm than exp

[turbid marsh]

idk if you like to manual, but when i first start to grind harder maps, i manual the maps until they are on safe so that i can safely auto. but that was a few years ago. my second suggestion is to level your ships at b-1 then move on.

[mild sail]

Put her as your secretary
Put her in dorm
Put her in fleet

[turbid marsh]

gives you the option of equipping sg radar to change the timing of her skill. retrofit also gives her like... a tiny tiny tiny boost on ehp and damage

[storm heron]

maybe yes maybe no, you usually get 100 aff first before getting ships to level 120, but in reverse you cannot instantly raise affinity

[cobalt gate]

yeah usually although feels like with books and dorm and opsi might reach before

d0 starter eilte ships have lower drop rate than other eilte ship in a map?

[nimble knoll]

Guh.. The Ships In B-2 Are Higher Level Than Half My Team-

[turbid marsh]

then level your ships in b1

[humble tapir]

oh ok thx

[elfin hollow]

we getting implacable next event right?

[humble tapir]

is saratoga retrofit worth it or shd i go for independence retrofit instead

[whole crypt]

assuming they don't put Operation Convergence rerun in somewhere next in line is Implacable but we don't know when it is

[elfin hollow]

how many cubes should I have in reserve for next event? Terrible luck got me from 150 cubes to 115. I don't want to put all cards in the table like before XD

[whole crypt]

next new event is CNY with new DE ships, just do daily lights

[cobalt gate]

i see, was trying to finish the dex for map and some reason feels like they aren't dropping

[elfin hollow]

three days remaining for this event.

Maybe I should just build via Tickets and save up for CNY. I'll get a free SSR anyway from shop

[warm flax]

When is cny

[warm trail]

tf is wrong with d3, kept on playing this dmn cutscene

[whole crypt]

honestly none of the new DE ships will be meta

[warm flax]

It'll go away sometime

[whole crypt]

just spend what you have and spend time till next new UR comes to save

[elfin hollow]

which according to y'all is on... february at the closest approximate?

[whole crypt]

are you sure it's the same cutscene, there are several cutscenes to fill in for the first couple of clears after 100% for D3

[whole crypt]

next new UR should be late Feb going into Mar

[elfin hollow]

yeah I think I can replenish enough XD

CNY only for the freebies and whatnot

[sudden briar]

Why do some ships on the community tier list prefer twin 410mm kai over Friedrich gun?

Forgive me if I'm missing something but it looks like Friedrich gun is just about marginally better overall?

[warm trail]

did i say the same?

[sudden briar]

Nvm it's cuz Musashi has a Sakura Empire gun bonus

I'm stupid sorry

[spare lance]

guys if I level up Bulins I cant use them for limit breaking right?

[sudden briar]

You can.

[humble tapir]

saratoga retrofit or independence retrofit better?

[whole crypt]

then it's just a couple of cutscenes to skip through and you're done

it's the same for every event in old format, there's always multiple scenes after clearing B3/D3

[storm heron]

ddg no good?

[whole crypt]

Fu Shun is not a new ship and she's not gacha anyway

[storm heron]

wait also how do you know their kit already

[barren tapir]

isn't she like 59%

[whole crypt]

I don't but it's an intelligent guess, none of the new DE ships regardless of rarity have been top meta every CNY

and especially not in a rainbow-dominated meta

[barren tapir]

theyre all elites, nuf said

[storm heron]

makes sense, only the retrofits could be great

[barren tapir]

fu shun will be good though, pretty much guaranteed

remember tai yuan powercrept the other ddgs, i lowkey expect similar

[spare lance]

my bad I forgor to turn off the "only-see-lvl 1-ship"

[whole crypt]

I mean Fu Shun might be a bit better who knows, of the 4 of them she's also the worst pre-retro because of shitty skill

[spare lance]

is Hornet II good I'm bouta raise her cus I think she is

[barren tapir]

the skill scales with her gunnery, and ddgs have good gunnery post retro so i think it'll be good. i expect her to get torp crit rate after retro on it

[whole crypt]

not bad but not top

[barren tapir]

i also expect her 15s barrage to have reaim like tai yuans

the only big mystery is what effect her 15s barrage will give

[whole crypt]

anyway Hwah Jah will probably go from fodder to borderline usable

like what happened to Chen Hai

[barren tapir]

more importantly i hope we have better missile rerun

[whole crypt]

like literally the only reason you'd want to pull the new DE ships during event besides waifu is because it should be in light pool which makes it cheaper for ships that will get moved to heavy for perm

[slow fox]

Yeah. 59 good for most event content lmao

[elfin hollow]

I actually pulled her recently but idk what to do with her

She's cute, that's all she has for now

[barren tapir]

well then ig same goes for like 90% of ship

[elfin hollow]

Unicorn's the only cute + usable ship I have on arsenal

Besides Z23 but idk

[slow fox]

yeah

[whole crypt]

she's 1 CV RLD tech

there's no need to do anything with her for now

[barren tapir]

you will get many more

[storm heron]

[lunar arrow]

What a fix for this one again?

[barren tapir]

try relog

[lunar arrow]

Nope, still the same error

[nimble knoll]

Was it Dumb Of Me To Spend 2,8k Of Flowers Of Remembrance on Gold Tech Boxes? (It was before I joined the server)

[lunar arrow]

Not really

[rose cosmos]

So new year event right after this?

[lunar arrow]

Yep

Lunar new year event*

[nocturne glade]

Unicorn safe to 125 right?

[nimble knoll]

I still need about 16k to get Hornet II And The Plane, Or Should I get the plane first?

[lunar arrow]

Technically Plane more valuable

[lament ledge]

should i swap suzutsuki with san diego(not retrofit)

[nimble knoll]

Okei

[elfin hollow]

okay chat finally bought her. Would zero in on the Skyraider next

[late flame]

if non gph related it can go #al-general

[elfin hollow]

I waited for slowmode but yeah ^^;;

I put her on Damage CV, off-flag

is it a right decision? I replaced penny

[whole crypt]

no because 0LB carriers are rubbish

[kind slate]

Is it fine to convert all of agir and Plymouth bps to buy a second plygun?

[granite rain]

Does Fritz go in mob or boss fleet?

[elfin hollow]

blunder #2:

Spent a portion of my exp boost books to knock her up to level 49, and relieved my dockspace of excess gold bulins

[whole crypt]

I'm fairly sure no one here told you to get her in a hurry

[storm heron]

wouldn't blunder 1 be buying her

[whole crypt]

stop falling for shiny trap

[barren tapir]

it's only a blunder if getting her means becoming unable to get skyraider + hvar

[fast steppe]

is this a good aux gun for guam

[barren tapir]

she's good for gold

[slow fox]

What are its use cases? I have like a billion BP and I want to modernize the gear setups of my CL/DD/CA/BB.

[whole crypt]

Hornet II isn't a bad ship but now is really not the time to be pushing to raise her

[kind slate]

Is it fine to convert all of agir and Plymouth bps to buy a second plygun? Or better to save?

[elfin hollow]

ooh, that's fair. I'm optimistic that she can be a good replacement to Penny for B3. always getting her sunken after a battle or two XD

[whole crypt]

carriers also not going to be doing much if you lack the planes for them

[slow fox]

I would do this. You can get Agir/Ply bps anytime.

[whole crypt]

a shinier ship is not automatically a better replacement

if your ships are sinking you need to find out why they're sinking and deal with that specifically, not find shinier ships

[granite rain]

What is hvar?

[barren tapir]

top antilight fighter

[kind slate]

Who wants plygun the most? Plymouth already has one

[storm heron]

BiS fighter for single target light armor boss fight

[slow fox]

Voroshilov my beloved
-# don't listen to me on this one

[storm heron]

shimmy

[pliant yew]

Are these broken? I cleared 8-4 and did 3 challenges but nothing unlocked. I just cleared 10-4.

[granite rain]

Oh, is it the gold blueprint fighter in the event shop? Sorry, very new

[barren tapir]

yes

[kind slate]

Shimanto right? Thnx

[granite rain]

Oh ok sick, I bought those out already so that's good

[elfin hollow]

I set up hornet's temporary air wing for use on long grinding. I know it's not american but I have the unfortunate luck of getting unnecessary gear at times

any changes needed?

[granite rain]

BTW if I bought those, the tickets, the expensive plane, and a copy of hornet, what should I be buying? Chips? Augment parts?

[storm heron]

bad bad bad bad

[whole crypt]

did you go to the menu before doing those things, some of the older mission stuff don't start registering before you first enter the menu

[elfin hollow]

SchiBe...

Airplanes all bad?

I mean yeah that's logical since it's IB planes. I'll check the guide on gearing for her

[whole crypt]

good planes good
bad planes bad
they may happen to be certain faction planes but faction itself has nothing to do with whether the planes are good or bad

[storm heron]

what do people use before the gold cuda? purp cuda?

[slow fox]

ethernet barracuda

[whole crypt]

purple barracuda, tenzan, just whatever you have

[granite rain]

Do 2 of the same auxiliary items stack?

[whole crypt]

purple swordfish is also fair game if you don't have anything better

[wind hazel]

effects dont stack

[elfin hollow]

I got the helldiver on surplus, a Hellcat but no replacement for the tenzan. I only got some blues and greys for tha-

[whole crypt]

stats stack
gear skills don't

[granite rain]

Got it, that's what I thought

[whole crypt]

tenzan is fine for now

the bulge isn't doing anything though, get something adds AVI
also enhance the helldiver more

[storm heron]

helldiver +10 gonna last you months

it used to last you years

[elfin hollow]

uni has two steam catapults. I can take one from her's in the meantime

[rose cosmos]

I'm still using helldiver atm, those tenrai prints just aren't dropping

[barren tapir]

still does if you're gearing more than a couple cvs honestly

[storm heron]

do you really not have these?

[shut hedge]

Why do you need to have lvl 1 kirov meta?

[whole crypt]

honestly you're going to be using helldiver for years

[storm heron]

:smugdiver:

[barren tapir]

but youd be giving up cl fp+2

[storm heron]

fine years

[fast steppe]

why does guam prefer z46 gun over harbin gun tho? doesn't harbin gun have +35 fp

[granite rain]

I thought 2 steam catapults was good?

[barren tapir]

cope for powercreep accessible golddiver

[storm heron]

you don't need to

[shut hedge]

I read in the guide somewhere

[barren tapir]

just use normal kirov she also has +15% dmg taken debuff

[sharp socket]

dont read the ectl guide its outdated by several years

[barren tapir]

and you want meta to 120 because cl fp +2

[pliant yew]

i quit the game and when i went back into it. the Series 1 challenges half reset themselves while Series 2 are locked.' now i have to do them again (including build 20 ships and 100 commissions)

[barren tapir]

do series 1 then, you need to do it twice to move on

[shut hedge]

Its the endgame guide

[storm heron]

what guide says you need lvl 1 kirov meta

[brazen star]

ex mode guide

[shut hedge]

Yes for ex mode

[storm heron]

need where

[shut hedge]

How do this work again?

[barren tapir]

for some reason

it's if you had her unlevelled for some reason. not RECOMMENDED

[whole crypt]

if you just finished 1 and unlocked 2, each series has its own set of missions that you have to do the tasks
just take your time with them they are permanent anyway

[storm heron]

it just says great, like not perfect or needed or whatever yada yada

[barren tapir]

just use normal kirov she gives the dmg debuff but no slow.

kirov meta has good tech you would want to 120 her lol

[pliant yew]

it said i completed Series 1, yet now it says i have to 100 commissions again even though that was ticked off already.

[whole crypt]

it's literally only for EX scoring, just level them if you want the tech, if not just ignore her

[whole crypt]

you need to do series 1 twice, because an age old bug that they decided to give everyone the missions (and thus rewards) twice

[barren tapir]

have you finished series 1 twice?

[pliant yew]

once.

[whole crypt]

then you have to clear the whole PR1 set again, you still get the rewards again anyway

[fast steppe]

is it pattern? reload?

[nocturne glade]

samething happened to me after first clear of series 1, all I know is that it lets us f2ps get more proto currency

[whole crypt]

again there's no time limit for it, just take your time, more rewards

[pliant yew]

thats useless for me because all PR ships on Series 1 is 100% complete.

[nocturne glade]

convert them into the blue prototype shop currency

[whole crypt]

even better you get more prototype cores

and you can do it right away too

[storm heron]

Less effective of covering blind spots

[barren tapir]

the twin130 guns have a more limited firing angle iirc

200* instead of 360*

other than that, idk

[barren tapir]

just do the missions again for protocore?

[storm locust]

Is another good way to get more quick finishers? Ran out and I don’t want to wait for the build time

[whole crypt]

they're supposed to build up as you play, you can only get them quickly by gems which is an utter waste of premium currency

[hollow gust]

You should be spamming commissions , even more important for this month

[nimble knoll]

Is Developing Ships, A Good Idea?

[final heart]

when should I use the normal SR hellcat and when should I use the hvar SR hellcat?

[reef flume]

HVAR Hellcats are for light armor bosses. Normal Hellcats are good for AA+damage in campaign if you don't have flapjacks

[barren barn]

Should i replace some of my gear with purple ones i can craft from opsi

[atomic abyss]

no
there are replacements, but they're either opsi gold gear or research gear

[nimble knoll]

How can you retrofit a Ship?

[atomic abyss]

only some ships can be retrofit, and the option is given when looking at the ship in the above menu

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard#Retrofit

[atomic abyss]

as for how to retro those ships, they need retrofit BPs, which are from story hard mode

[nimble knoll]

I see

I'm tryna Retrofit Uni

Okei, ty

Also how can you get more Augment Module Cores? (The Gold One)

[worldly pewter]

didn't i tell u what to do yesterday

[nimble knoll]

Guh.. I need 3 more levels Smh

[clever lance]

Is dual flapjack and dual steam cat optimal for YK2?

[whole crypt]

there's a fair number of good unique augments out there now but the easiest way is to just not make any if you're not sure

[atomic abyss]

for campaign, yes that would be optimal
Assuming the other slot is a tenrai or sth

[whole crypt]

for AA yes for damage no

[clever lance]

Looking for optimal build to compliment enty for damage in opsi and PvP

[atomic abyss]

carriers are not optimal in pvp to begin with, so that plan was doomed from the beginning

[clever lance]

Oh that’s unfortunate

[late flame]

pvp is a different ball game as well (check pinned in #pvp )

[clever lance]

Then just opsi

[solar canopy]

I used 3 Main Fleet ships from the Northern Parliament as EXP fillers for Nakhimov's research. Now the problem is, my Soyuz has reached max level. If Soyuz gets EXP in battle (MVP or not), will her EXP be counted towards Nakhimov's research?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[late flame]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[solar canopy]

Okay thank you for the enlightenment.

[atomic abyss]

then it would most likely be
2 HVAR + Skyraider for light armour bosses
or
2 LA-9 (or BF109G) + skyraider for med bosses

[worldly pewter]

bossing or mobbing ?

[whole crypt]

OS bossing depends on the whole fleet but it's going to be something along the lines of 2 rocket fighters and whatever DB that gets you the right timing

[clever lance]

Boss

What’s hvar?

[worldly pewter]

other than enty what other cv do u have ?

[atomic abyss]

the fighter from this event

[worldly pewter]

this event's golden plane

[clever lance]

I’m working on avp

Is f6f hellcat different than f6f hellcat hvar?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[hollow gust]

[atomic abyss]

the former is from tech boxes and basically a worse flapjack
the latter is a rocket plane for light armour bosses

[clever lance]

What’s the difference between a fighter and a bomber?

Gun vs dropping bombs?

[atomic abyss]

most fighters are meant to fight planes, some like the HVAR or LA-9 are for surface damage
dive/torp bomber are meant to deal surface damage

[worldly pewter]

ender in his setup enty should be replaced with rumey when mlb right ?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[late flame]

TIL

[nimble knoll]

Should I buy Two Augment Module Cores Using The Flowers Of Remembrance Or Just Save For The Plane?

[atomic abyss]

augment module is low prio
gear is highest

[late flame]

+check the pins

[sharp socket]

between fritz and yk2 which one to mlb , have 7 bulin in shop

[worldly pewter]

7+2 in the dock ?

[sharp socket]

yes

[worldly pewter]

isn't it enough for both of them ?

[kindred arrow]

Maybe he's saving 4 for Feb

[hollow gust]

Do you struggle more with medium or light, pick the corresponding one

[sharp socket]

yes but i also dont want to use all at once

[atomic abyss]

i'd say rumey and z52

[sharp socket]

i struggle with neither because BB stronk

[worldly pewter]

also i think celerio wants to focus more on w15

so z52 should be the best pick there

[hollow gust]

Considering the dock you will be spamming IJN CVs for every single armor type anyway

[sharp socket]

if i cannot w15 then ill do z52

[hollow gust]

Z52 isn't going to make or break your w15 fleet

[sharp socket]

mainly i want some kind of light CV fleet cause why farm hvars if i cant use them effectively

[sinful elk]

chat is it just me or the hvar drop rate is extremely low

[atomic abyss]

it's "normal"

[kindred arrow]

It isn't low, it's fixed

[hollow gust]

They nerfed it into the ground compared to the original, now it's a more reasonable drop rate in comparison with the other gear

[sinful elk]

wtf.. i get 1 from 23 sorties

[hollow gust]

That's just bad luck

[kindred arrow]

The one bug they shouldn't have bothered to fix and they did

[sinful elk]

This is so unfair like fr........

[atomic abyss]

oh please, farming an extra 1-2 HVAR isnt gonna magically make your comps better

[hollow gust]

You only need like 1

[glass quest]

what auxiliary weapon do I use on Fritz?

[sinful elk]

Is this fr

[atomic abyss]

need? 1 yes
for kears

[hollow gust]

Rest you can supplement with La-9s and BF109/

[atomic abyss]

if it's a want it's a separate issue

[hollow gust]

Although considering how busted the anti light ships are , probably need 0

[sinful elk]

wtf.. so i just slap on bf109

[inland shoal]

Apparently just boring Staag AA gun

[sinful elk]

and call it a day

[hollow gust]

You can still onefleet light harby this month without Hvars, as long as Yorktown has one eagle plane , everything else is fine

[jagged harness]

Which is better NJ or Kronstadt

[atomic abyss]

if you really want more HVARs, just wait till it gear labs

NJ by far, assuming shinano is MLB

[hollow gust]

I ran both for the current CM, literally no major difference

[worldly pewter]

depends on ur dock but most likely nj between these 2

[hollow gust]

I got my 3:38 time with CL gun but

[jagged harness]

Alright thank you🙏🏻

Im confused because they both look strong

[worldly pewter]

they are outdated by today's standards

[kindred arrow]

They kinda aren't anymore

[hollow gust]

There are like a dozen ships that can do what kron does , NJ half a dozen

[late flame]

power creep

[inland shoal]

I mean even then I'd say staag is a lot cheaper

[hollow gust]

German CL gun is cheap asf tho

[inland shoal]

Is that what you ran in CM?

[hollow gust]

CL gun just need range ,the damage comes from her Ca gun anyway

[sinful elk]

Erm chat since my dock is getting full which one should i keep?

[worldly pewter]

push story by slots

[glass quest]

spending 200 gems for more space would be the wiser choice

[nimble knoll]

How can you Raise Morale?

[glass quest]

dorm or js giving them time to recover

[kindred arrow]

You leave your ships in dorm and wait

[sinful elk]

Huh what does that mean

[sinful escarp]

thats why we say 3 dorm slots + 2nd floor. that way you have 6 ships that will recover morale quickly

the gems from 3 star on campaign

[worldly pewter]

yeah check the missions in the mission tab

[kindred arrow]

You 3 star chapters for gems and you buy dockspace with those gems
Your dockspace is kinda

[sinful elk]

I pushed to 14-3 idk man..

[sinful escarp]

from the gems from 3 star maps we recommend 3 dorm slots + 2nd floor. rest is dock slots

[worldly pewter]

on what did u spend the gems on ?

[kindred arrow]

Did you perhaps buy skins with those gems

[glass quest]

is there a way to like throw away augments that aren‘t needed?

[hollow gust]

Free to play don't get gems

[worldly pewter]

sell them i think

[kindred arrow]

You feed them to other augments

[sinful escarp]

use the blue ones as enhancements for other augments

[hollow gust]

Feed them to other augments

[sinful escarp]

welp, thats why

[sinful elk]

I feel sorry for myself

[hollow gust]

Well time to whale

[worldly pewter]

u made ur life extremely hard but u either retire or credit card

[hollow gust]

You need many of them for tech too

[sinful elk]

Yeah the retire one

[sinful escarp]

did you join a guild? they have something for dock slots, not a lot but its something

[sinful elk]

They focus on oil storage so dock slot isn't max and cheapes as i remember

[sharp socket]

4 scan BB did less damage than 2 scan, geo acc goes hard this is one of the reasons why id want antilight CV for no geo acc issues

[kindred arrow]

I would retire from there the wolfpacks and stuff that is in the general pool like Essex, Ryuuhou, etc.
I want to stress that this is not ideal and it's only kicking the can a bit further down the road

[sinful elk]

Nah nah just list it out i rarely use them anyway

[worldly pewter]

retire the lower rarity ones after mlb and having bad tech

[kindred arrow]

Retire what you don't use too I guess

Your space is super dire

[sinful elk]

I mean like, in those picture are any girl good to keep

[sharp socket]

if you care about collection, retro and retire the bad tech low rarity ships

[worldly pewter]

yeah the ones that reached 120 and most likely won't be used

[sharp socket]

and also retire retro'ed 120 ships that you dont use

[sinful escarp]

i wouldnt retire wolfpack, i dont see the subs for fishpack
and rerun for flasher is still long time away

[kindred arrow]

Most of them imo but you aren't in a position to be picky

[kindred arrow]

He has archer and alba there

[atomic abyss]

alba isnt even a mandatory part

[sinful escarp]

and flasher isnt

[atomic abyss]

flasher is

the difference between the 2 isnt even that large

[cobalt gate]

wow front row having trouble dealing with torpedoes, is there anything other than bulge to help? does torpedo do less damage to certain armor?

[atomic abyss]

yes, torps do less to light armour and most to heavy

[kindred arrow]

Even then I wouldn't wanna have him retire Archer because she's a pain in the ass to get but noted

[atomic abyss]

so agir and napoli really dont want to deal with torps

with amagi buff saiun > bf109g by 2%

[cobalt gate]

oh less to light

[kindred arrow]

Don't retire the wolfpacks @sinful elk I was wrong

[atomic abyss]

the difference is bigger with higher dmg TBs

[sinful elk]

I was about to ask why since i saw their rankings are pretty high on the TL

[sharp socket]

so since i didnt get anything yorkii or fritz

[worldly pewter]

make a w15 fleet and try to 3☆ as many as u can too

[atomic abyss]

im pretty sure i said fritz

[sharp socket]

fritz it is alr

[sinful elk]

Can i do itbwithout guam and laf2

[atomic abyss]

ofc you can

you just need to get the other AA carries then

[kindred arrow]

Many people did before they were in the game

[atomic abyss]

w15 was pre guam and laff2 ya know

[sinful elk]

Damn i don't have much UR CVs aside from shinano amagi2 and yk2

[glass quest]

do I use the Flapjack or the La-9 as fighter? which one is generally the better choice?

[atomic abyss]

i mean stuff like chesh, shimanto

[worldly pewter]

imo 15-1 is very easy to 3☆ so start at least with that after 14-4

[atomic abyss]

flap for campaign/event
la-9 for opsi boss/meta/cm

[sinful elk]

shimanto another bps grind?

[atomic abyss]

no shit

[kindred arrow]

Shimanto is very good in w15

[atomic abyss]

you dont have the premium options so you scrap up everything else

[cobalt gate]

which one is flapjack?

[atomic abyss]

shimanto is really strong for 15 even with guam and laff2

[idle marten]

Is it worth building 2 Z52? Or i should just feed the 2nd one to mlb the 1st one?

[late flame]

mlb

[kindred arrow]

Use it for dupe

[reef flume]

Mlb one

[worldly pewter]

u didn't miss z52 and eld retro right

[atomic abyss]

gear lab, crafted from f4u corsair

[sinful elk]

Yeha i have 2 of them

[cobalt gate]

ahh.... that one

[reef flume]

She is like the second best AA carry in game

Absolutely worth it

[atomic abyss]

uhhhh i dont think she is second best but she is top 5

[sharp socket]

will this do better or worse than soyuz alsus vanny against light

[atomic abyss]

i would like to remind, that w15 is literally the hardest content in AL

[worldly pewter]

yeah nowhere near guam or sandy but good balanced ship for everything

[sinful elk]

So like.. for my dockspace i would retire any SR that i don't use aside from the wolfpacks?

[quartz jungle]

Worse

[worldly pewter]

don't start with the SRs

[atomic abyss]

far worse lol

WHY SOY??

[sharp socket]

soyuz 40% slow

[atomic abyss]

RUMEY HAS A SLOW?

[kindred arrow]

Don't you have anything lower rarity to retire first

[sharp socket]

• eld 60% slow = big slow

[quartz jungle]

Slow is maxed at 80%

[atomic abyss]

it's so much worse

[sinful elk]

i already did

[sharp socket]

• rumey slow = enemies move backwards

[atomic abyss]

like unbelievably worse

[sharp socket]

welp i got nothing then

[atomic abyss]

triple BB for light

[quartz jungle]

No that bug's been fixed already

[worldly pewter]

i think neko was using alsace against light with yk2 and kear soyuz is kinda not ideal imo

[atomic abyss]

if you REALLY want to cook
Als Soy Rumey

so soy gets the BB buff and also buffs rumey

why would you even use indomie over enty

[kindred arrow]

Ugh then yeah I guess
You aren't really in a position to worry about good tech

[sharp socket]

i dont have enough rainbows

[atomic abyss]

soy is only a viable choice there if nakhi is there

cel, enty isnt rainbow

[sharp socket]

but no york2

[atomic abyss]

even a weak triple UR BB of NJ FDG UVH would do more than that comp

[worldly pewter]

i trust uvh fdg

[quartz jungle]

Soyuz needs 2 carriers for the latter

[sinful elk]

Alright

[atomic abyss]

ah right she does

[granite rain]

As a new player, what should I be doing with War Archives?

[sharp socket]

so like this

[atomic abyss]

nothing

[kindred arrow]

To expand on this: the collab ships you have will probably never rerun, stuff like Taihou, Essex, Sovetskaya first since they're on the general pool

[atomic abyss]

nothing unless you need sth specifically from it
do event and campaign

[granite rain]

Got it, ty

[atomic abyss]

yeah
or well, just triple BB...

[sharp socket]

alright guess ill retire the CVs cause everyone gives me this answer

[atomic abyss]

CV anti light needs a LOT to beat BB anti light

[sharp socket]

i need a goal man

[worldly pewter]

do what i told u then

[kindred arrow]

Also please use the gems we'll get on LNY on a bit more dock

[atomic abyss]

the goal is fine, your means are the issue lel

[sharp socket]

whats ideal CV light fleet

[cunning bison]

me when skins:

[atomic abyss]

kears nakhi yk2

[sharp socket]

ok ill just do that then

[cunning bison]

tho my dock has 60+ space free so

[atomic abyss]

since you lack nakhi
fritz, but you'll need eld

[sharp socket]

so do i continue building nakhi

[quartz jungle]

Kearsarge/Yk2 paired with Nakhimov/Fritz

[kindred arrow]

Skins is for 💳 only, please don't
Dock is a huge QoL when playing the game
Size matters

[atomic abyss]

nakhi is best for med and light if you need a slower

[sharp socket]

or switch to pr6 and send it into kears

[atomic abyss]

imo, nakhi

[worldly pewter]

wait until kear catchup

[cunning bison]

i need a anti-heavy cv fleet, what shld i be aiming for?

[sharp socket]

do you see the contradiction here ender

[atomic abyss]

impla shinano enty

[cunning bison]

al is a long-term game

[atomic abyss]

mlb bis2 first tho

[cunning bison]

and who do i go for? hak or nakhi?

[atomic abyss]

hak without question

[quartz jungle]

Continue with Nakhimov

[atomic abyss]

i mean you have to choose your priorities yourself

kears is more niche than nakhi

[sharp socket]

i dont see what ill use nakhi for

[quartz jungle]

Medium armour

[sharp socket]

i just know shes good but i dont even know in what for

[cunning bison]

then impla shinano hak i presume?

[atomic abyss]

because light and med armour bosses move really fast compared to heavy

you need a freeze, not just a slow a lot of the times

[cunning bison]

ahh kear -> ply -> hak im going to hv to wait a while it seems

[quartz jungle]

You can't do 4 salvoes with the triple guns right? So Nakhimov will do more damage for 3 strike

[atomic abyss]

why is kear before ply and haku wat

[cunning bison]

dw abt that i just had a lot of eu main fleets to lvl up owo

[worldly pewter]

note that the bulin u used on z52 hit u in the ankle although she is usable at lb2 but having an mlb nano or bz is way better especially for bossing

[sharp socket]

if my goal is to antilight CV and only antilight CV, do i prioritise kear and do yk2 fritz kear

[cunning bison]

i have 3 ur bulins to use dw bout it

[atomic abyss]

also, nakhi deals the most damage out of all the carriers currently

[atomic abyss]

if you ask me
just go nakhi fritz yk2 for light

[worldly pewter]

do u want to oneshot the current harbiter ?

[atomic abyss]

and now you have an option for medium too

[atomic abyss]

this will fuck over your frontline admittedly

[cunning bison]

when is gun bttr than aa and vice versa on fritz

[atomic abyss]

nakhi is just way more valuable than kears

[kindred arrow]

Apparently it's 🤏 but the hit from STAAG is better iirc

[quartz jungle]

Yeah forced Stephen Potter ARA lol

[sinful elk]

Anything else?

[sharp socket]

weve come full circle it seems

[atomic abyss]

i mean cel

kears is only really good for yk2 comps specifically

if we had another UR essex we wouldnt have this convo

[kindred arrow]

Not really
cross check on wiki the sources from where the ships you want to retire come from

[cunning bison]

enty 2 or retrofit is more likely owo

[atomic abyss]

if YOUR goal is to build only anti light

then kears

if you have any consideration for fleet comp flexibility, nakhi

[cunning bison]

hmm okty

[atomic abyss]

enty 2 would be a nuclear carrier...

[late flame]

pfft code g where

[atomic abyss]

there's no essex class carrier named enterprise lol

the next enterprise was the first nuclear powered carrier, the enterprise class enterprise

[cunning bison]

retro enty still counts as yktwn fortunately

and she did get an irl retro so thats that

[atomic abyss]

yk2 is good, but her biggest limitation is the fact that she's like nano and needs +2 USS

[cunning bison]

will kearsarge be obsolete if we get a good ur essex class/enty upgrade?

[atomic abyss]

hamm 2

[worldly pewter]

i think kear is mostly used for the ara

[dreamy blade]

retro enty shes already strong but damn having more than 1 skill would be crazy

[cunning bison]

(whats ara)

[dreamy blade]

air raid assist

[sharp socket]

so were back here for light and medium

[atomic abyss]

the best carrier buffing skill
air raid assistance

[quartz jungle]

Well Hamm2 is very squishy, so not sure whether I would want to use her

[cunning bison]

full eu backline??? (if enty retro/ur essex)

[atomic abyss]

wat

[woven star]

have a question, why I can't spend on Agir Blueprints for coin but can on another like SaintLouis? My Agir 100lvl with 22 of 30 research, SL lvl 20 and 11 of 30 research

[late flame]

agir isnt coinable

[worldly pewter]

u are only getting 3 hvars ?

[boreal wagon]

because its not unlocked for them yet, only those with the lil coin icon on their blueprint icon have it

[woven star]

thx

[cunning bison]

(not everyone can get so many hvars)

[sharp socket]

my sanity loss farming for 4 hvars is not worth it

[late flame]

tbh i just farm using emu while watching netflix or something

[worldly pewter]

i guess it is kinda of a shitshow after the fixed drop rates but yeah if u have +13 bf u can skip i guess

[woven star]

oh now I see, same for Haku then

[cunning bison]

yeah may or may not be soon tho

[dreamy blade]

research ships are only coinable up to the gold ships of pr4 (non-DR)

[quartz jungle]

Do you not have Aurora?

[dreamy blade]

but we're approaching the time of the year when they update it so agir/haku coinable

[wet badge]

is 711 oil every 3 d3s good

[sharp socket]

this backline locks the frontline to look like this

[atomic abyss]

Well cel this is my opinion

[quartz jungle]

Aurora > Tashkent in this situation

[atomic abyss]

Just treat anti light CV as a long term project

[sharp socket]

ill continue to build nakhi and make the backline as what i cooked

[atomic abyss]

Nakhi just fits in far more comps

I guess you could go kears anti med with the same comp

[woven star]

I made 159 per and it's maybe not so optimal but what I have should be fine for me

ranger+langley back line + sandiego for vanguard it's for mobing, boss team maximum what I have

[quartz jungle]

Kearsarge/Fritz/YorkII would be a weird anti medium fleet

[woven star]

backline 0lb and avi for d3 cos main can't handle with 1 ranger, not enough avi without langley

[quartz jungle]

Not sure whether it beats 3 BB forced to use 457 mm though

[quartz jungle]

Also Soyuz/Nakhimov/Fritz for medium, not YorktownII, swap Tashkent for another ship

[wet badge]

doesnt kron have a slow

[quartz jungle]

Only once on crossfleet

But is why you use Aurora instead of Tashkent vs light yes

[wet badge]

o

hope they drop a ur np vanguard sometime

[late flame]

#al-general for speculation

[knotty sleet]

whats good hard hitter CV for low oil cost beside Ranger?
i already have ranger, wanna have alternative

[turbid dawn]

Is 600k the max amount of coins? I've been farming this damn D3 event so much I've gotten like 250k coins from it

[sharp socket]

another ranger

[knotty sleet]

lol fr, looking for another 120 for tech fleet haha, but another ranger seems fun

[sharp socket]

if low oil should be 0lb ranger

[forest palm]

ya you get an annoying message during sorties when you're max btw

[knotty sleet]

havent try that yet, isnt the level only 70 max ? the mobs here 103 (D3)

[sharp socket]

for D3 dont low oil, just do 1:1

[woven star]

she needs to be alive only

[knotty sleet]

yeah make sense

thanks for input

125 ranger cook the boss tho

[woven star]

with good vanguard main feet can be lower, instead of using 1 main as 11 oil can be 2 for 6 oil

only for mobing

[fiery raptor]

for a player too busy/lazy to be switching gear often what's the most generalized anti-light anti-med fighter? HVARS or the 109g? For Kear Avp YorkII Opsi antilight combo.

[knotty sleet]

for the vanguard 2 DD like 0LB cassin + downes?

im using laffey 1 atm

[woven star]

Not sure they can survive

[fiery raptor]

where's the belfast guy he ran lb0 cassindownes

they had bling gear though

[woven star]

I canshow my team and it's not best but using 159 oil, lower with 1:1 team

[knotty sleet]

yes pls haha

[gilded knot]

My Shinano is currently running with Amagi CV and Musashi. Should I sub in Hakuryuu?

[fiery raptor]

do you have implacable? is this opsi?

[gilded knot]

No Implaccable. Currently tryna clear 14

[woven star]

Something like that, have no rainbow gun for SD

[fiery raptor]

no haku. sushi amagi cv shinano should do fine

who is mob if shinano is boss?

i guess haku lol

[worldly pewter]

the best question is who is mob if musasi is boss

[knotty sleet]

hmm so why there is langley there?

[woven star]

@knotty sleetif you have stronger CV for boss then can be used 1 ranger. I dont have enough total avi for d3

[worldly pewter]

go to the thread for more hvar discussion

[gilded knot]

Mob is running Yorktown2, Essex/Enty and Unicorn

[fiery raptor]

even hood can take 14 mob lethal if she has her aug. riche can do lethal w14 just fine

fdg should be available easily enough for w14 duty

[knotty sleet]

ahh i see, the avi req thingy, thanks for sharing btw

[fiery raptor]

is this working okay? i'd sub essex enty with a battleship

[woven star]

That's why

[knotty sleet]

i see

[worldly pewter]

go to the thread for more hvar discussion before u get bonked

[woven star]

And one more

[gilded knot]

Not really, which is why I'm fixing to throw either Amagi CV or Hakuryuu to my Mob fleet

[fiery raptor]

Haku should be fine. I think a battleship uni + cv is gonna do better because that is w14 mob standard

if you have volga she's better than both yorkii and haku in mob

[woven star]

one of ten my mobing team die) so it's not perfect but another 9 runs they use less oil

[sharp socket]

do subs lose morale when they sink

[knotty sleet]

maybe due to low morale
thats why need rotation

[fiery raptor]

i don't think so, they sink all the time for me and they're perma heart

[sharp socket]

yeah i didnt see their morale go down when i call them in and die while trying to leave but theyre gaining aff which is weird

[worldly pewter]

it is better to open a thread and put all of ur dock and depot that way it will be way easier to see which good comp are available and what gear to work on

[woven star]

main problem with submarines that's why sandiego have anti-sub, and aircraft - that's why I use SD too, but they can loose when out of ammo on strong enemy with 3 waves

[gilded knot]

I'll do that.

[fiery raptor]

it's harder to exhaust subs because unless you're actively placing and calling them every fight they don't get as worn out as the mobbing fleet

[sharp socket]

well but im doing that

just one sub, raising u81 aff

[rapid grail]

just use unikai or percy

[rapid grail]

less than 500 oil per 3 clears

[woven star]

subs in d3 using oil too, so better not use them

[ruby knot]

Should i mlb Rummey or Z52 first

[rapid grail]

rumey then z52
generally, backliners give more value to your fleet at MLB compared to frontliners of the same rarity

[worldly pewter]

there are so many factors to count when deciding on which to mlb

[dire flare]

Fleet Help

[rapid grail]

with the lack of dock pics for any other URs, this is the safer approach
assuming they're newbies who come here once in a while, ofc

[shut scaffold]

I want to try get more rainbow blueprint fighter plane.Any idea please?

[worldly pewter]

if u have exausted the usual sources then all u need is prayge

[gilded knot]

W14 help from you living legends

[rapid grail]

Play Opsi
Do the daily missions, hidden; abyssal; stronghold nodes, then c5 farming in order

do that throughout the month, with decent fleets to beat such contents

[knotty sleet]

this HVAR print someday will be farmable on war archive?

[atomic abyss]

Yes
Though they'll likely add it to core shop or gear lab too

[rapid grail]

yeah, in that case you'd wait for the announcement

[shut scaffold]

about this one

[knotty sleet]

okay thanks guys

[rapid grail]

will take a while though since we recently got kronshtadt's archival alongside this rerun