gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

it's just a glorified crossfleet fleet

[cunning bison]

which one's ur mob?

[left cedar]

í'm quite oposite, i use BBs for everything and rare times i need to finish with my mob
PS: Bosses ...

[exotic wren]

Taihou M good?

[whole crypt]

no she's shit

[sharp socket]

BBs can do all armor with one comp its good

[cunning bison]

ooh ic

[exotic wren]

Why is she t

[whole crypt]

CVs can also do all armour it's just switching planes

[sharp socket]

leveling probably

[cunning bison]

whats ur bb fleet like then (do u use vanguard btw)

[exotic wren]

Ohhhhhhh tech nvm

[left cedar]

i do with BBs cuz FdG is there, she is the only reason why

[whole crypt]

that's how you level META skills, yes

[sharp socket]

try using yk2 fleet against heavy or ijn against light, it does less than BBs

[exotic wren]

~~I'm too rich to grind them in combat ~~

[whole crypt]

"less" is irrelevant if it's still enough to oneshot

[sharp socket]

soyuz alsace vanny agir helena ply

[whole crypt]

the only time where it remotely matters is harbiter

[left cedar]

FdG/Bis2/Vang
Agir/Helena/Emden

UvH buffing FdG cuz Crossfleet

[whole crypt]

for that matter you can kill abyssals with the mob fleet nowadays

[sharp socket]

next time i find a light abyssal ill try it then with ijn fleet

[sharp socket]

thats cause my mob fleet runs everything mixed

[left cedar]

C5 i can kill with my mob if i swap UvH weapon correctly mostly of times

[whole crypt]

the only times I fail kills is if shield or healing mod

[cunning bison]

interesting, btw are certain bbs bttr against certain armor types? (esp biszwei, vanguard, alsace)

[sharp socket]

and in harbiter it also does matter

[left cedar]

for me its Healing, shields dont help them much

[whole crypt]

shield sucks for me because CVs get caught in it

but it's usually less of a problem than healing

[left cedar]

some are general like Bis2
others are focused
Soy Medium
Musa Heavy
idr others

[whole crypt]

Musashi is better against heavy Soyuz better on medium the other rainbows can pretty much do all armour

[left cedar]

i feel like FdG lose alot on Heavy if compared to Light

[whole crypt]

FdG is actually worse on light if you get EVA cucked

[left cedar]

but i cant say she is focused into Light cuz of that cuz in medium she keeps fine

[whole crypt]

she's literally the least accurate rainbow BB

[cunning bison]

ic and what guns shld i be using if im lazy to switch (again, biszwei, vanguard, alsace)

[left cedar]

her barrage are light focused, and she does fine with AFCT/White and full tech

[left cedar]

cant ...

dont have a general use gun for BBs like 234 for CAs ...

[whole crypt]

yes but FdG has a pretty strong weightage on shelling over her barrage

[left cedar]

still she does better in light than in heavy by a noticiable margin

[sharp socket]

back when i used fdg in mob it would sometimes fail in stronghold but thats changed when i gave her mk7 and afct

[light ridge]

TBH I'm still out of the loop hard because I just returned from 3 year retirement

[whole crypt]

you will see a very noticeable drop against light using AP and not very good results against heavy using HE, there's no way to be lazy about it

[light ridge]

So much changes on even some basic function

[cunning bison]

i mean by varying guns

[left cedar]

btw, my Bis2 is kinda bit cripled cuz the reason she is there its to buff FdG and keep blackhole in place to FdG hit, and even being a bit cripled with 380MLE in Heavy its quite common my Bis2 does more than FdG

[whole crypt]

it's just that most light armour things besides tempereance are usually shit enough to not care about

oh the lazy BB fleet is BisZwei/Soyuz/Alsace

[cunning bison]

..yikes.

[sharp socket]

i still watch my abyssal fights probably because of lingering trauma from new player stage and also fun to watch the shelling

[cunning bison]

how do u do the cancel thing

[sharp socket]

~~ both sides of the text

[left cedar]

i dont watch, but i do keep looking some times specially dmg diff between FdG and Bis to plan improvments or think in how can i do to my FdG do better

and i have to say, Z52 and Ply it sounds like a huge improvment for my beloved FdG

[cunning bison]

also for vanguard alsace biszwei how do i time my shots for alsace to be buffed (vanguard fires bef biszwei)

[cunning bison]

z52 in wat fleet btw

[sharp socket]

my tech is also kind of low so the difference in damage does matter to me more compared to someone with high tech

[left cedar]

Z52 is a general use buffer, "healer" and tankish ship
she buff CVs and BBs, so she can be used in both

[whole crypt]

Z52 works for any fleet but "better" for BB fleet because of lack of BB buffers

also because BisZwei buffs her

[sharp socket]

helena plymouth

[whole crypt]

Z52/Helena/Plymought, just nice

personally I'm dropping Helena and Agir goes in

[left cedar]

i think in general use Z52/Ply it will do better than Helena, cuz no luck involved
but still Helena is the huggest buff for BBs IF she procs

its my plans for FdG
Agir/Ply/52

[whole crypt]

Helena is good when you're not totally over the top powergaming

[sharp socket]

occasionally my helena does more damage than agir which is nice

[whole crypt]

she fills the gaps that you don't fill even if it's RNG

[left cedar]

something really wrong is going there ...

[storm heron]

uss plymought

[sharp socket]

200aff buff

[left cedar]

cuz my Agir is quite close dmg to Vang ...

[whole crypt]

gear issue probably

[left cedar]

and i dont even see Helena doing something like 1/4 of vang

[sharp socket]

my agir has kron gun and the 30fp aux from tlr

[light ridge]

Helena's primary value is just her skill

[atomic abyss]

Probably AP vs light armour target

[sharp socket]

she does more against maihou too sometimes

[left cedar]

for top of my head, even in this ocassions i still see quite a diff between Agir and Helena

[atomic abyss]

That is a very scuffed kron gun

[sharp socket]

kron gun on agir not kron herself

[atomic abyss]

If Helena is doing more dmg than Agir I really question the Agir gearing

[left cedar]

something really strange there

[atomic abyss]

200% shdnt be that great a buff for Helena dmg

[light ridge]

WHo the hell would use AP CB gun

[left cedar]

with this gears my Agir does quite a thing mostly of times

[atomic abyss]

Uhh... When I'm attacking med armour enemies?

[whole crypt]

who wouldn't use an AP CB gun

[sharp socket]

it's nothing special just kron gun, quad mag torps, random AA gun i have, rudder, 30fp tlr aux, greatsword, all +10

[left cedar]

Agir AP have ALOT more value than HE

[atomic abyss]

Isn't there like one HE CB gun anyways

[light ridge]

Valid

Guess I'm falling behind hard

[whole crypt]

yes only Azuma gun, and even against light enemies it's kind of ehhh

[sharp socket]

meanwhile helena plygun, twin 130mm, random AA gun, rudder, fumo/sg radar depending on what BB setup im using

[atomic abyss]

You are piling the odds in her favour to be fair

[sharp socket]

its the 200aff low tech shenanigans

[light ridge]

lol

[left cedar]

my Helena dont have a Ply Gun ... cuz i'm lacking few of it ... but i dont think Helena can do something like 80k dmg constantly

not on Abyss and Harbiter or META fights

[light ridge]

Which one is ply gun again

[whole crypt]

fumo is already not ideal in actually hard fights because Helena's durability isn't exactly top tier

[atomic abyss]

Quad 152 rainbow

[light ridge]

Woah

[sharp socket]

when its harby i swap out all the offense auxes for toolkit/eva aux/speical living aux

[cunning bison]

since quad 152 um shld i ever buy the bps of it frm protocore shop?

[left cedar]

well, time to go check one muscle car irl

but i do still think something wrong is happening there

[wind hazel]

eventually you will, but not the priority

[cunning bison]

oh okie

whats the gear like for z52? (and what position? off-tank?)

[left cedar]

something like this will do
off or mid
easy content she can do tank roles

[cunning bison]

fast-firing gun, normal torps, repair toolkit alr? but um whats w the aa/other aux?

[left cedar]

this 134 AA if CV fleets have to be changed to better AA like UR one, or Sexy or roomba
depending on ur strategy

[wind hazel]

it's just hp aux

[cunning bison]

bb

[left cedar]

other aux have 550 HP
AA cuz FP stats

[wind hazel]

wtf thumbed up within 0.01s

[cunning bison]

wanted to thumb up esdeath's

[exotic wren]

which one to mlb first? rumey or z52(?)

[left cedar]

u already have all other URs MLB ?

[dusty scarab]

When the re-run of Z-52?

[exotic wren]

i don't have other URs

[atomic abyss]

At least 2 years from now

[left cedar]

so Rumy first
Z52 still nice option

[atomic abyss]

Rumey or save for yk2

[left cedar]

cuz Z52 is a general buffer and works for CVs fleets and BBs

[exotic wren]

she's confirmed for jan rerun slot?

[cunning bison]

for opsi subs what do i use(i can fast-lvl any currently obtainable subs too if needed)

[fluid brook]

Yes, Yorkii have been confirmed for Jan 9

[atomic abyss]

#game-news

[exotic wren]

ouh

[atomic abyss]

81, 96, 37 from medal shop

[left cedar]

81, 96 and 47

[cunning bison]

um.

[left cedar]

47 already have 1 LB, and the major diff between them isnt much

but yeah, 37 is better than 47

[cunning bison]

hm can i sub 37/47 for leonardo?

[left cedar]

well, leaving here
till later

[cunning bison]

ciao

[left cedar]

not ideally cuz not enough buffs for 37

she need others KMS SSs to work better
but 47 works

[cunning bison]

i mean not use 37/47 instead use leonardo

but k

[atomic abyss]

No

The Germans depend on their synergy lol

556M and Leonardo are stand-alone
If anything they're used to fill the 3rd slot with archerfish and flasher

[sinful escarp]

iron blood subs have "wolfpack skills" so most of them needs each other to be good

[cunning bison]

sad id didnt get flasher

[willow dock]

Is 52 better at mobbing or bossing?

[vale gyro]

Opsi Fleet combinations based on limited selection

[atomic abyss]

Equally good at both
Save UR for boss usually if you don't know better

[bold stream]

Hello all.i just finished my AvP. I should use all this prints to get AvP then analyze them right?

[cunning bison]

u hv other series bps?

[bold stream]

Then I would do the same to my UR prints after finishing FdG?

[sinful escarp]

imo i would use them for ships that dont have coin option

[atomic abyss]

Use them for Shimanto imo

[cunning bison]

how to get electronic components fast?

[bold stream]

Okay.. for shimanto. I will keep in mind

[atomic abyss]

No way to get them fast unless you have the selector boxes
Grind opsi

[cunning bison]

kk prioritise these over all else in boxes right

[bold stream]

Fck.. I just got enough for ancho tech yesterday.

After ancho go for shimanto?

[fluid umbra]

What gear should I have on U37, U556 and U410?
I currently have double purple torp aux, Twin 100 dd gun, double purple G7e

I'm running them as wolfpack sub fleet

[atomic abyss]

I mean then don't use the selectors lol

[atomic abyss]

Don't even use this sub fleet

[fluid umbra]

Ehh they're all 120 already

[atomic abyss]

If you can't build the best sub fleet, don't raise one

[fluid umbra]

What's the best sub fleet

[sharp socket]

*good sub fleet

[atomic abyss]

Cos it's an utter waste of resources

[atomic abyss]

For Germans? 37, 96, 81

[sharp socket]

the best is fishpack but that doesnt mean you dont build subs at all unless you have fish

[atomic abyss]

There are 2 bests but yes

[fluid umbra]

I'll bring up my sub list one sec.

[atomic abyss]

Purple subs are shit lol

They are already worse damage wise
Then they are also worse for even hunting damage

[bold stream]

How about the IX subs? I have two SSR from them.

[atomic abyss]

Shit

[atomic abyss]

In any place where you'd actually want subs, they get killed quickly

Cos they're on the surface

[atomic abyss]

Don't bother with subs

[fluid umbra]

Ehhh, ok

Guess it's just not meant to be

[bold stream]

So U-81 and U-47

[jaunty vault]

for now

[atomic abyss]

Then just get 37 or 96 from merit/medal respectively

[sharp socket]

you can get 96 from medal shop or 37 from merit

either works, 96 is better

[bold stream]

U47 is no good?

[atomic abyss]

She's good
Just not the "best"

[sharp socket]

her skills arent very good

[atomic abyss]

But if your luck with shops is shit well

[bold stream]

Yea, we got CL BB shop on amagi rn

[fluid umbra]

I have never gotten an SS on medal

[bold stream]

After anchorage... Go for plymoth right?

[atomic abyss]

Finish PR4

Because the faster you max the ships in PR4, the faster you get prints for Agir and Haku

[bold stream]

Okay got it!

[late flame]

+doesnt hurt to acquire more prints for tenrai (that rainbow plane)

[bold stream]

Its feels good that I need royal navy tech for napoli too.. since plymoth is royal navy

[trim path]

my ply is dev 30 and brest is close to dev 29, but i only have 15/50 plygun prints. do i stay in pr5 for a second plygun (i've bought the protocore one) or move to pr6 for kear/shimanto?

[upbeat wagon]

From which developement level onwards would roon be better than prinz eugen?

[bold cove]

Normally when youre nearly finish Ply, you will either have 1 ply gun or over 1 ply gun

[upbeat wagon]

Assuming similar level and mlb eugen

[trim path]

hmm. i got like 80-90 prints from the print selector, but i don't think i'd have gotten 30-40 plygun prints in that timeframe.

[atomic abyss]

Dev 30
With augment

She is no means a better tank

Only better DPS wise

[upbeat wagon]

i know

[atomic abyss]

The key is the augment really

[upbeat wagon]

so the augment would be worth to craft, right?

[atomic abyss]

Extremely
It's more important than her fate sim

[upbeat wagon]

ic thanks

[late flame]

if you plan to use her yes

[upbeat wagon]

is roon better as a mobbing or boss ship

[atomic abyss]

Mob imo

[jaunty vault]

she's a tank, she does both

[late flame]

roon should be tanky enough for boss aye

[upbeat wagon]

i have portland and her rn, which should do which

[late flame]

having said that she'd be replaced by much better options down the road as you develop more ships*

[jaunty vault]

doesn't really matter

[upbeat wagon]

alr thanks

[atomic abyss]

Equal as tanks really

Roon is just a better DPS

[late flame]

ngl i wish her aug removed the ammo change nonsense

[cunning bison]

is it worth to use the armor thingy for cbs to change frm med to heavy?

[late flame]

vh plating? nah - very niche use

[cunning bison]

what does med to heav even do anyways

[late flame]

+not exactly fun taking more damage from planes and torps

[gaunt oracle]

should i replace shina with rumey or nah

on my mob

[fast steppe]

#1324077826596540428 message what's the best fleet I can make for soumet

[still nest]

What's the current arbiter armor?

[late flame]

yep

[cursive saffron]

Shud i use shinano/nagato/amagi cv for taihou meta? Or stay with the usual haku/shinano/nagato?

[storm heron]

kahu?

[cursive saffron]

Which better? Idk anymore

Typo

[storm heron]

do you have oaths on both haku and shinano and about 38 rld?

the answer is the first one/ former btw

[cursive saffron]

Noope.. i can but i want to marry other ships

[storm heron]

That's alright, as long you 2 shot. Ignore my question above

[cursive saffron]

Sooo the usual?

[storm heron]

yea if you 2 shot it doesn't matter if you wanna play amagi or haku

[cursive saffron]

I cant even kill it with 2shots

[storm heron]

well the answer is amagi, but you can improve your fleet though

I can help you get into 2 shot if you'd like

[cursive saffron]

Please do

[storm heron]

what are you using?

[cursive saffron]

I can use all but idk the setup also most of my ship isnt oathed sooo

I use IB converging and tenrai on both haku and shinano

[hallow mountain]

Brothers is it worth to build Shimikaze if I have Z52

[storm heron]

can I see the whole fleet?

[hallow mountain]

or the more the better

[cursive saffron]

Cuz i also use implacable for stun

[cursive saffron]

The setup aswell?

[storm heron]

yeah that would be great if you have everything and implac, you MIGHT be able to one shot

[storm heron]

what do you need to raise shimakaze? 4 bulins?

[fast steppe]

how hard is it to 1 shot souryuu meta

[storm heron]

I forget, shouldn't be that hard

[cursive saffron]

Thats the thing no matter what i do its almost impossible to one shot

[storm heron]

you can use the heavy cvs to 1 shot iirc

[fast steppe]

#1324077826596540428 message can I do it with this dock

[storm heron]

improvement you can do:

• use fighter with 1000lb bombs instead of bf109g on implac
• sync your CVs better, there are options like saiun/ryuusei/blackvit other than junkers
• replace agir with another contributor or dps like kazagumo or sirius

With this changes 2 shot should be consistent

[atomic abyss]

Uhhhh

[cursive saffron]

Aight thanks

[atomic abyss]

This is for who, maihou or

[storm heron]

yea maihou

[cursive saffron]

But theyre sync? Like theres 1sec dif but only for shinano

[atomic abyss]

Then impla shd be 1 flapjack double TB

1 sec is way too long

+- 0.2s is the gap to hit

[cursive saffron]

Will my vanguard be fine without a tank?

[storm heron]

yea maihou's pressure is low

[cursive saffron]

Aight

[atomic abyss]

More like replace ply and agir

I'm not even sure why ply is there when there's no BB to buff

[obsidian ivy]

Doesn't seem likely, you're missing quite some levels and ships

[atomic abyss]

Agreed with this

[cursive saffron]

Wait whats TB?

[storm heron]

converging torp bomber

[fast steppe]

even if I had the levels?

[atomic abyss]

Then you'd be lacking in gear

[cursive saffron]

I cant decide what shud i use?

[atomic abyss]

You use the one that brings your timing within +-0.2s of your other 2 carriers

[cursive saffron]

Another IB tb xD

[storm heron]

sure if that syncs

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

Use this to help sync your carriers

[fast steppe]

I've got a fair bit of gear but idk how much is needed

[atomic abyss]

You're not using the best ships so you need the best gear

[cursive saffron]

Oooh thanks

[atomic abyss]

I highly doubt you have sufficient +13 gear lying around
If any

Forget 1 shotting, just 2 shot lol

[fast steppe]

balls

[storm heron]

I don't think you can one shot, I remember back then in May I tried soryuuM but I failed with fdg vanguard UvH

[atomic abyss]

It's definitely possible to 1 shot, just not with his comp

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

this is an example comp that 1 shot consistently

[fast steppe]

how much more important is it to have a +13 skyraider vs a few +13 ryuseis/junkers/others

[atomic abyss]

Lower

Much lower even

[storm heron]

ryuusei junker other is cheaper and always used in bossing

[atomic abyss]

Admittedly you shd only +13 as many as you actually use

[cursive saffron]

Ye all my +13 is on BB guns

[fast steppe]

cause from what I see on +13 priority skyraiders are red outline while ryuseis aren't even on the same level as bf109s

[atomic abyss]

^

The thing there are 4 different conv TBs

So which one to +13 depends on what you're using for syncing

If you're not using a single say ryuusei for syncing then you don't +13 one

[cursive saffron]

Uhh the IB ctb

[atomic abyss]

Skyraiders are very important yes
But for the price of 3 gold planes?

[late flame]

i made that mistake

[atomic abyss]

For a newer player lacking in +13 gear
It does not take precedence

[fast steppe]

so which would you recommend me to +13? also have a +12 tenrai

[storm heron]

not to mention BBs are kinda competitive in places where skyraider excels

[obsidian ivy]

It's very rare to use skyraider but you'll almost always use the TBs

[atomic abyss]

Why the fuck did you +12 a wyvern AND a tenrai

[fast steppe]

(ignore the +12 wyvern)

[brittle lily]

I can't find the gear skin boxes I just got, they aren't in the usual spot. Where are they?

[atomic abyss]

That's where your gold plates went

[fast steppe]

dumb

[atomic abyss]

Ignore the tenrai and the wyvern
They can stay at +12

[cursive saffron]

Sirius front line?

[storm heron]

but red outline tenrai

[glossy granite]

Yo guys 😅, how do you properly setup your fleet for exercises? Im only finding demons in my lobbies or these trolls with 2 ships and they destroy me

[late flame]

#pvp check pinned

[atomic abyss]

+13 the Junker
+13 the 2 Ryuuseis on Hakuryuu

[fast steppe]

aight

only thing is rn haku is not timed at all so idk if I'll keep using those if I do move to 3cv

[atomic abyss]

Then time them...

You should still be timing it even if you're using ark

[storm heron]

you'll keep using them, trust

[fast steppe]

that's just her loadout for taimet where I'm using her with uvh and vg

[storm heron]

at least the first or second of each planes

[fast steppe]

or at least the one I'm experimenting with rn

[atomic abyss]

Wait what

Did the UvH and Vanny comp actually do more than the Ark + Hakuryuu comp

[storm heron]

well yeah long story short short story long they ended up witht that

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure I recommended ark centaur haku or sth

I can understand ditching centaur, but ark too?

[fast steppe]

uvh VG enty beat enty ark centaur but I haven't tried haku ark centaur yet

[atomic abyss]

Haku Ark Enty then????

[glossy granite]

Ah so the fleet you build for pvp is completely different for pve?

[atomic abyss]

Centaur is the weakest link in the chain there

[fast steppe]

hm

[atomic abyss]

Yes, completely

CVs will always have an overwhelming advantage on heavy armour

Even with early/mid game gearing

[glossy granite]

Looks like i have some nice ships for it but sadly not max lvl/LB

[atomic abyss]

Let alone end game gearing

[fast steppe]

don't have Sirius fully levelled yet so I'm relying on Helena somewhat

problem is I'm not sure if I can get haku to around 20s without dropping to saiuns

[atomic abyss]

CV with Helena is fine tho

That's why we have beacons

[storm heron]

just put the highest level you have for now and build towards the pvp comp slowly, remember your only rewards there are merit, don't be too stressed

[cursive saffron]

My sirius died so fast? So guam front line?

[atomic abyss]

Guam shd always tank

Sirius can die fine tho
Her buff remains even on death

[fast steppe]

gimme a moment I'll run the calculator

[glossy granite]

Doing this for UR bullins lol, cuz of these quests and that season pass

[atomic abyss]

You get more than enough from just grinding campaign and events

[cursive saffron]

Nah still need 3shots

[atomic abyss]

Most of us just ignore pvp

[storm heron]

then just find something you can beat

[cursive saffron]

But its much better than before

[glossy granite]

I got cooked from this event, i was so close to reaching the milestone :/ for that UR bullin

[atomic abyss]

There's another in less than a week

[glossy granite]

Inshallah

[storm heron]

show gear

[cursive saffron]

This is my gear the difference is that sum is lvl10 and all r not oathed

The sync diff is .4 ms

[storm heron]

what? you use a sample fleet?

[atomic abyss]

Like to be frank
For sourM and maihou, it's just a damage race

[cursive saffron]

I jus tried it

[atomic abyss]

It's not like that accursed thing that is RodM

[storm heron]

you need slow. Magato is damage race

[obsidian ivy]

What was rodM gimmick

[atomic abyss]

You cannot sync the backline for RodM

[cursive saffron]

Isnt impla better than slow?

[atomic abyss]

So for RodM it was like slower? What's that?

It was extremely cursed

So one shotting was nigh impossible without specific ships like Unzen

[storm heron]

how was that not 2 shot, can you show end screen damage?

[fast steppe]

hmm

[cursive saffron]

Aight lemme do it again

[storm heron]

that's not gonna sync

[glossy granite]

Most people get their URs maxed from just autoing hardest stage campaign they can do?

[storm heron]

remove ark's beacon

and you should be good

[fast steppe]

I'm trying to work with helena though

[boreal wagon]

21.5x and 20.5x are still over a second apart which is bad

[storm heron]

no, that's cruise pass right? that's why you were going to do exercises?

[atomic abyss]

Iirc the best comps flitted between
Musashi/Nagato
Hakuryuu
Shinano
Avrora/Noshmu
Kazagumo
Unzen

I do imagine it'll become way easier now that we've gotten Mogador and Amagi tho

[atomic abyss]

There's no point trying that if they aren't synced up

[cursive saffron]

Heres the final dmg

[storm heron]

well, even with that you can't sync all 3

[storm heron]

that's 2 shot -_-

[glossy granite]

Idk man im really dumb

[atomic abyss]

That is 2 shot tho

[cursive saffron]

OOOOOH WUZZAT

[obsidian ivy]

I just hope they don't do another (use a META ship or suffer) mechanic like QEM

[boreal wagon]

when gph refers to x shot we actually mean x battle attemps

[cursive saffron]

Thats what u referring 2shot xD

[boreal wagon]

if we mean literally x shot we usually say x strike

[atomic abyss]

I don't think newer lv15 meta bosses can be 2 airstriked

Maybe the older ones can tho

[atomic abyss]

Trust me, rodM is worse...

[storm heron]

I mean x shot just doesn't make any sense since there's not really a shot and vanguard deals damage

[fast steppe]

so just ditch Helena?

[atomic abyss]

Keep Helena there
You'll get the first 2 airstrikes in Helena's window

[storm heron]

that's what I mean when you can't sync all 3 airstrikes

well you can ditch her if you got unzen/z52

[atomic abyss]

With QEM, the issue was moreso you couldn't take out the knights easily

Back when QEM was out, your only option was Helmet

[storm heron]

what about Algerie Meta?

[fast steppe]

so ditch ark's beacon or just use slower reload equips? second junker for ryuseis, fulmar for helldiver?

[cursive saffron]

Cant yostar jus remove the rng stuff on Helena

[atomic abyss]

Lol

[storm heron]

well you still need to make it to 2 strike window if you want to use helena...

[atomic abyss]

They're more likely to give us a Helena 2

[boreal wagon]

and just give us a 40% dmg increase with no strings attached? sound like a completely fun and balanced idea

[late flame]

cope for her aug to do that in future

[atomic abyss]

AlgerieM came out after QEM no?

[storm heron]

I mean you can cope with aug but don't expect 100%

[atomic abyss]

No, sync her with your other carriers

[cursive saffron]

Neh in outa here thanks yall

[cunning bison]

is there any benefit to purposely prohibiting opsi monthly reset by not clearing whle of chp 4?

[atomic abyss]

No

You miss out on all your abyssals and strongholds

And your monthly shop reset instead of a 3 day shop reset

[fast steppe]

oh helldiver adds too much to reload time

so smth like this ig

[storm heron]

I don't think the torps will arrive on time for 3rd sync

[fast steppe]

yes I was working under that assumption that we were ditching 3rd sync

[storm heron]

was this for sorM? use bfgs instead of tigercat and pirate

[fast steppe]

nah for taimet

[storm heron]

can you try putting tb in haku's first slot?

[fast steppe]

21.85

[storm heron]

that would increase the damage by quite significantly

[fast steppe]

with saiun

[storm heron]

use helldiver on ark or smth

and use ryuusei or junker on enty to match, or just replace the beacon

[fast steppe]

helldiver with no beacon on ark takes her up to 22.73

with beacon 21.82

does that still sync for second

[storm heron]

2*21.88+1.5=45.26 yeah it would sync before 50

[fast steppe]

how long do torps take to travel

[storm heron]

depends but you can expect saiun 3.5, junker and ruusei 4, vit 4.5 for taiM

[fast steppe]

aight

[storm heron]

still doesn't make a difference though in grand schene of things sadly

[white agate]

wait , if sirens and boss have the same % to drop the hvar doesn't this mean i can perma farm ex stage?

[jaunty vault]

ex stage?

either works as long as you have the proper gears

[boreal wagon]

EX doesnt have mobs nor does the boss drop anything, i think u mean SP, in which case its just 1 attempt per day anyway

[white agate]

yes, i meant sp stage

[white agate]

i think you can retire from stage tho? or you lose all items gained?

[boreal wagon]

u can also do that in D3

[white agate]

but d3 has oil cap

[boreal wagon]

why would that be a bad thing

[white agate]

because i can spend less in sp stage with a 1:1 fleet and crossfleets barrages

[fast steppe]

ok of these what planes should I +13

[jaunty vault]

also elites and boss have different rates

[boreal wagon]

but oil cap doesnt make u use that much if you use less

you can 1:1 D3 with that same fleet and it would cost the same
oil cap only applies if you would exceed it

[white agate]

i had forgot,thanks

[boreal wagon]

but anyway yes, you can do that but bc u can do it in D3 i wouldnt recommend it
not that i would even recommend it at all

[jaunty vault]

your converging torp bombers (ryuusei, saiun, junkers) should have been your priority
but since you've already partially done tenrai, you could go for that first
beyond +10 is not recommended for tigercats or helldivers

@fast steppe

[fast steppe]

ender said leave tenrai at +12

[jaunty vault]

then follow what he says

it doesn't really matter either ways

[white agate]

iirc to +13 ur gear needs the plates you would use to +13 3 gold gear therefore why going for gold earlier than rainbows is usually better advised

how much higher is the % to get a gold bp from the boss than from a siren node anyway?

[boreal wagon]

we dont really know the exact drop rates for anything

[white agate]

what about cn from data estimations? or we got nothing?

[late flame]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[white agate]

that is for ships tho

[storm heron]

it was about 10k oil per 25 prints for (allegedly bugged) hvaar drops

idk the confidence interval

[knotty pulsar]

Should I prioritize doing 1-4 hard daily for unicorn or get further into hard story?

[left cedar]

go further, specially for HMs, cuz Core its a limited resourcer
and u dont need to clear past maps to get acess to higher ones

[crimson glacier]

sounds like awful idea to stay in 1-4

[left cedar]

u can jump straigh HM W13 if u already 3* all maps on that chapter
its a example

so advance max u can on that day and do the 3 HMs on higher chapter u already have 3* on all maps

[white agate]

get unicorn from the guild shop,that is the fastest way

[knotty pulsar]

I'm trying to retrofit her

[stiff isle]

At least chapter 3+ HMs would be ideal since you get Gold Prints i think

[knotty pulsar]

3 runs per day so I have to leave after defeating all fleets so I don't waste attempts trying to e star

[stiff isle]

The higher level HM the more Coredata you get too.

[knotty pulsar]

I do need that

Alr imma keep progressing

[stiff isle]

It's iterated a lot but this game is "a Marathon and not a Sprint" so take your time and do what you can ❤️

[knotty pulsar]

Too used to gachas where I need to speedrun

[dreamy blade]

yeah it's not a bad idea to 3star the x-4 hm maps for the guaranteed retro prints

well speedrunning to ch9/12 is a thing and would be good to do, but in the longrun it doesnt make much of a difference

[stiff isle]

Yeah, I'd agree at least getting to CH9 with the Oil Cap is a good priority.

[bold stream]

Hello all. how is 13-1 gold compared to 12-4?

[stiff isle]

You'll need a 2nd fleet by then though.

[dreamy blade]

worse

[stiff isle]

Coins 12-4

[bold stream]

Ugh...

[dreamy blade]

you would have to do 13-4 if you want coins

[bold stream]

I see! Thanks!

[knotty pulsar]

Final question. Is it worth using books on helene or Pennsylvania?

[stiff isle]

Helena is fine w\o them for now AFAIK

[dreamy blade]

exp books or skill books?

[knotty pulsar]

Exp

[stiff isle]

Oh exp?

[dreamy blade]

if theyre underleveled for where youre at in campaign then sure

[stiff isle]

I thought they meant skill xD

[dreamy blade]

if not then no need

[knotty pulsar]

I'm only doing skill for laffey and unicorn rn

[stiff isle]

What's your server's Medal Shop SRs atm?

If you have a BB you can get Hood to replace Penn.

[dreamy blade]

limit breaking them will help more than the exp books

[knotty pulsar]

DD SS

[stiff isle]

Ignore Oil Costs since stages 9+ have oil cap... Always LB units you'll use. Also Max LB'n a unit gives you Tech Points needed to start PR ships.

[knotty pulsar]

Pfft I don't even look at my oil cost

[stiff isle]

Good xD

[knotty pulsar]

Back to speedrunning story. Thx

[gloomy fern]

Whats a good hardmode stage to grind

[stiff isle]

Once you 3 star one continue doing the ones you can for the bonus prints and Core Data.

(Highest Level)

[bold stream]

Hello all. Should I MLB UvH or z52? I can buy 1 more ur bullin at shop.

[gloomy fern]

So I should be clearing them in order to 3 star them?

[stiff isle]

YorkTown2 is next week (?) she may be better to MLB.

[crimson glacier]

uvh is kinda useless for you imo

[stiff isle]

If you don't have her since shes a rerun

[stiff isle]

I'd say focus on the ones you need the prints for first.

But that's just me.

[bold stream]

Yea, i do not have her. That is all my URs

[dreamy blade]

the highest chapter you can since theres a 3x core data event

[gloomy fern]

I don't even know what prints I need

[dreamy blade]

cruisers >>> carriers > dd/bb

so x-2 > x-4 > 1/3

[gloomy fern]

I'm only on like level 7-4

[stiff isle]

Have you Retrofitted Unicorn / Portland / Starter?

[gloomy fern]

Nah

[stiff isle]

Do Unicorn ASAP

[gloomy fern]

I started a week ago

[late flame]

then proritise unicorn retrofit

[dreamy blade]

uni retro should be your #1 priority

which means x-4 hard for carrier prints

[gloomy fern]

I don't even have Unicorn

[dreamy blade]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[stiff isle]

Unicorn > Portland (tank) > Starter (You'll need to do them for rookie missions anways)

[gloomy fern]

I may or may not have dumped a decent amount of money into the game

[dreamy blade]

you can and should buy her from the guild shop

no amount of money can replace unicorn

[late flame]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[gloomy fern]

Cause I played AGES ago. Back in like highschool.

I just wanted my stuff that I remembered having back

[stiff isle]

That was 18 years ago for me Kappa

[gloomy fern]

It was like 3 years for me

Unicorn purchased

[keen sable]

Unicorn laffey portland saratoga/nelson/Maryland helena sandy

[dreamy blade]

maryland

[gloomy fern]

Right now the carriers I have are:
August, Formidable, Shangri-La, Enterprise, Junyou Meta, Fritz Rumey, Centaur, Victorius for SR

I got like Hood and A few of the research ships from a packs

Mainz, Roon, Georgia, and August

[keen sable]

Did you buy the prints and make avp d30 also?

[gloomy fern]

All except Roon cause I didn't know how the system worked initially

But when I get monarch she'll be 30 lmao

[keen sable]

~~you can still buy it afterwards? ~~

[gloomy fern]

No bp

Not enough gold

[keen sable]

I meant the bp. You can buy it as an add-on

[gloomy fern]

huh

Where I ain't see none

[keen sable]

W/e buying it for Monarch is fine

[faint nimbus]

Can someone explain why this gear is mostly used on UR DDs

[keen sable]

Try tapping the bought pack and tapping further inside

[gloomy fern]

Oh yeah, I thought the blueprints allowed you to craft the ship not star them up

What should I be going for with Core data

[keen sable]

The have bad guns and really good proc skills or sometimes just crazy stupid overpowered proc skills

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /coredata

1 Black shell?

[keen sable]

Pretty bad setup

[gloomy fern]

It's just randomly thrown together

I'm open to suggestions

[novel condor]

Prob just ss your dock in a thread and someone will prob help u out

[gloomy fern]

My dock is a mess ngl lmao

[keen pewter]

what boats are this gun for

[keen sable]

Georgia uni enty portland helena starter
Bisko avp guilio mainz "random scrub or no one" duis

[keen sable]

Shimanto

[tame jungle]

with no implac/kear, what's the backline for antilight? yk2, enty and avp fine?

right on

[atomic abyss]

Avp > ark because freeze and cos her barrage is rocket filled

Alternative could be Nakhimov or even Fritz if you're using eld retro

[tame jungle]

nakhi nowhere near completed and not planning to invest in fritz for now bc bulins but i'll keep it in mind

thanks

[atomic abyss]

Always good to know what's good
Ark is balls for anti light with 6 TBs no fighters

At that point just use eld retro who has the same slow

[tame jungle]

yea heavy i'm doing eld + full ijn

[atomic abyss]

Then you could use another Essex class CV

[uncut wren]

hi guys is there some guide for how to farm the experience for pr efficiently?

[wind hazel]

use 3 relevant ships, grind at 12-1 or 12-4 with 150 morale. that's about it

ideally that 3 relevant ships are also ships that you plan to use, or at least give good tech at 120

[uncut wren]

so if i use for example 3 royal navy vanguard, what to i go for in the backline?

[crimson glacier]

faction doesnt matter

[rapid moth]

Unicorn

[uncut wren]

ye but do i need something like unicorn or other healer right?

[crimson glacier]

probably, everyone wants unicorn on mob

[keen sable]

Ships you want to use

[keen sable]

Unicorn should make it brainless yes.

[jade star]

we got skin boxes in the mail right or did I misread it? where does it go after I claim it from the mail?

[keen sable]

Depot

[jade star]

the thing is I can't find it. was it a weapon skin or a ship skin?

[keen sable]

Gear skin boxes...

[jade star]

oh, so it's just weapon skins then. what was it's name? I kinda deleted the mail by reflex

[keen sable]

Night club

[jade star]

wait, nvm. the name's in the notifications. thanks for the help.

[wind hazel]

funny but i claimed it but it isn't in my depot either. never opened any boxes

[jade star]

yeah, i just checked my boxes one by one and it's definitely not there

[eternal fiber]

Dragon Empery Vanguard Tips for Harbin

[wind hazel]

nvm it auto open when you claim the mail. what a scam

[jade star]

ahh, thanks for that. I thought it got bugged or something. good to know that's not the case

[elfin hollow]

Im at 125 cubes should I just skip the upcoming UR and try to get the other ships and wait for the next UR or should I go all in anyway?

[untold beacon]

!guide

[wind hazel]

use the free tickets, then ask again

[untold beacon]

!guides

[wind hazel]

#bot-spam and /guide

[elfin hollow]

and is it worth buying cubes with gems if you are a spender or is that not advised

[wind hazel]

depends on how much you're willing to spend on this game really

and it's more valuable to buy packs that come with cubes, than trading gem for only cube

[elfin hollow]

Ok thank you

[mellow cape]

The gem to cube ratio is really not worth it. Be active and your cube income should be more than enough to pull URs

[novel solstice]

This game is way more generous on cubes than most gatcha games -- they make it fairly easy to get characters, and try to make money selling you skins (versus a lot of other gatcha games that make getting characters hard to make you spend money getting the character you want).

[untold beacon]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[hearty lake]

What the better levels to farm for exp for pr ships? I just finished chp 12.

[spring bolt]

ch 12

[novel solstice]

I use 12-1 as my xp farm.

It's the easiest level that has a non-zero cog chip income so you can level your ships and wish you were getting enough chips to awaken them.

Some people prefer 12-4 for better coin income, but I find that coins aren't hard to come by at this point, and I am often leveling junk ships for the tech bonuses, and I find that they survive a little better in 12-1.

[whole crypt]

if you're not really late game 12-4 coins is probably better

[spring bolt]

chip from farming is very few in number anyway and you shouldn't count on that, it's just an addition. normally you can expect around 35-40 chips for 10k oil spent in ch 12

[hearty lake]

Im just trying to farm pr xp for hind

[wind hazel]

just flip a coin

[whole crypt]

it's still better than no chips, and the only better chip options is if you move upwards anyway

[novel solstice]

Yeah, it's not a lot of chips, but it's better than nothing and I have a lot of ships lined up waiting for chips.

[whole crypt]

ch12 is usually the recommended grind spot

[hearty lake]

Im squared away on chips just wanted to know which part i should farm

[whole crypt]

12-1 better xp/oil, 12-4 better coin/oil

[normal crane]

Who should I bring for shimanto research exp mission?

[normal crane]

Btw I'm done with san Diego retrofit

[whole crypt]

Watarase and Sakawa, third is just whatever Chikuma isn't bad

Noshiro has a torp niche but probably won't see much use, also doesn't get any fleet tech

[normal crane]

I still have the Invitation thingy should I pick base noshiro there?

[whole crypt]

base Noshiro is mostly an outdated evasion tank at this point, if you're not sure just hold on to the invitation

if you can do Shimanto you're probably not that short on IJN tech anyway

[eager mulch]

[knotty pulsar]

Should this be 100?

Or do they jus not give out achievements for 3 star hard stages

[eternal moth]

With the announcement of Kron being added to perma, does that affect UR priority at all? I'm thinking having access to a top-tier tank might be really important, but I'd like to hear opinions.

[soft raft]

100% clear and 3* are sepreate

[forest palm]

no Kron is pretty low on the totem pole

[soft raft]

eh she'd join Shimakaze at the very end of the line

[spring bolt]

you can leave it there, no need to 100%

[knotty pulsar]

Alr alr thx

[eternal moth]

Why do people have such a hatred for Kron? I still don't get it

[forest palm]

it's not so much hatred it's that she's like vanilla very plain, nothing to offer on either isle

[soft raft]

she doesnt really do anything much to stand out amongst the other CBs

[forest palm]

like there's better tanks, and you don't use a CB for damage

[soft raft]

Zombie skills also havent been relevant in ages

[forest palm]

the zombie skill is irrelevant

[eternal moth]

You know, I just looked at the eHP chart, and I had no idea she was so much lower than Agir.

[crimson glacier]

now combine that with the fact that she was released almost year after agir

[forest palm]

she's essentially a better expensive Azuma

come to think of it Azuma is getting worse, and worse in value these days

[eternal moth]

She hasn't really been worthwhile since Agir's release

[forest palm]

the only argument for Azuma was that she was coin-able, but like...eh...

[white agate]

i'll still get kron cuz i have no other vanguard cross fleet

[hearty lake]

Is there a way to disable the "low morale" notification that keeps force stopping my auto mode?

[forest palm]

no, go touch grass

[soft raft]

no
also why would you want to do that

Esp uh
The 50% reduction in XP gain if low morale

[whole crypt]

it's the game's way of telling you to take a break or change ships

[novel solstice]

Stick the low morale ship in the dorm and wait a couple hours.

[hearty lake]

because its on my main fleet not my vanguard. and iron blood does not have alot of ships that work well together or with ships i have investment into.

[whole crypt]

if you're doing PR grind it's even worse, you're getting less XP for the oil and time spent

just take it slow for now

[soft raft]

did you not buy 2nd floor of dorm and 3rd dorm slot
that would let you slot in your whole mob fleet

[hearty lake]

let me clarify.
im farming xp for hind
i need xp from vanguard. not main fleet.
my vanguard is not low morale only my main fleet

[whole crypt]

then change the main fleet ships ot just like anything that can survive

the notification isn't going away and they're going get less XP and lose affinity

[hearty lake]

theres a 3rd dorm slot? i only have the second floor?

[whole crypt]

you can buy more slots

[hearty lake]

i have all 12 dorm slots for ship girls and both floors

[whole crypt]

then just take a break and come back in an hour ro something

[soft raft]

then the fuck is stopping you from slotting your whole mob fleet so half of it doesnt get stuck with the low morale popup

[hearty lake]

they are in the dorm also its almost like i have more than one fleet, dont need to give rude responses

[whole crypt]

is your Hindenburg dev just waiting on XP or have you finished the other steps already

[hearty lake]

only needing xp. 92% on the first part.

[glossy granite]

This game brutal man, checked the pvp guide from the pinned messages so i could get some info about building my fleet but the conclusion i have come to is ''Just delete your acc bro''

[fast steppe]

anyway it looks like I'm still dealing less damage to taimet with ark enty haku than with uvh vg haku

[whole crypt]

well my honest advice is to take a break or swap out the ships

[soft raft]

#pvp is niche af
that's like the last thing I'd ever consider deleting my acc over

[hearty lake]

prs dont get xp from pvp either. unless that changed from when i last did it

[whole crypt]

pvp hardly even matters, you get merit and XP even if you lose

[fast steppe]

even with 2 radar scans if enty doesn't proc it's bleh

[whole crypt]

for most part PvP is just another bulin source anyway

[hearty lake]

which ones?

[soft raft]

SR Bullins

15k merit per copy
Eldridge is also in merit for 20k tho she's only worth going for if you have her retrofit item

there's also the occasional cube for like 2k

[hearty lake]

i already have eld, i just need her retro item, she is one of the only 2 im missing for retros both being event locked item

[undone grove]

anything worth getting from the core ltd and monthly shop?

[hearty lake]

gear typically

[soft raft]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[fast steppe]

even though CVs are supposed to be better on heavy I'm struggling to consistently 2hit, is it just gear issue

[whole crypt]

you could just be missing a lot because you don't have a stop

Ark Royal helps but it's not 100%

[fast steppe]

still researching avp

[cobalt rapids]

CVs are not inherently better on heavy

i would stick to ulrich and vg either way

[fast steppe]

also I'm having slight survivability issues with helena tank, does manjuu, toolbox, or washing machine work better as a survivability equip

need SG in the other slot to sync

[cobalt rapids]

washing machine
what is ur vanguard tho

[fast steppe]

Helena kazagumo shima

[cobalt rapids]

ig helena is the best then

[eager mulch]

[stark quiver]

Wsp gph

[cobalt rapids]

does she not make it to last scan with manjuu tho

also ur haku is desynced from helena

[full hinge]

optimal way to grind commander level? ik playing campaign works but like, what are the factors that go into it?

is it just a matter of replaying and repeat sortieing the highest campaign mission you can consistently clear?

[jaunty vault]

/wiki experience

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Experience

[full hinge]

tyty

[elfin hollow]

It seems that some battles in opsi don't give experience (+0), is there a reason why?

[jaunty vault]

unlimited spawning mobs just don't give exp
if I had to say a reason, the devs designed it so

[elfin hollow]

Fair enough, I appreciate the response guv.

[frank pulsar]

iirc no, but most of the older ones dont require a specific strategy to kill
the more recent ones like for example arizona meta youll have to come here and ask

[jaunty vault]

YouTube is the easiest place to find fleets for dossier meta
although they might be outdated

[sweet delta]

Or be missing ships from the fleet

[plain wadi]

What does this mean?

[frail pelican]

it means that you need to bind your account to a yostar account

[plain wadi]

I see, was confused by the "migration" stuff

[mild crest]

What are bare minimum reqs for 12-4 once it's safe? two 3-3 lvl 100 fleets with at least +6 gear?

[stark quiver]

fleets at around lvl 100 with good gear

[ivory pawn]

Level 120 Uni + leveled VG main tank for mob, with decent gear plus defensive auxes on everyone is usually enough in my experience. If it's not enough, just throw more exp books at the weakest member.

[hollow quartz]

Who are the next URs in line to be added to perma pool after Kron? Vanguard then Musashi?

[viscid swift]

should be

[stark quiver]

it has the most vanguard pressure

[rare iron]

so... I played Azur Lane a looong time ago... at the time I had done my first retrofit... I still do not know much about the game, do not know how to play operation siren, I am at campaing 10-2 normal and will start 6 hard....

So much has changed... What to focus? What is important to do daily? Any good updated noobie guides?

[mild crest]

can you give/tag me in an example fleet w/ gear? im just tryna get a PR farm fleet ready but no idea what to equip

[stark quiver]

oh wait repulse meta has the most huh

[sweet delta]

Use amagi and Shinano plus one of Alsace/Musashi/haku/nakhimov

Uh then what gear

[stark quiver]

youre running hvars thats why

[sweet delta]

Yeah that's complete poopoo for heavy bosses

[stark quiver]

use torpedo bombers for all, and tenrais

whatever syncs

[sweet delta]

http://renhex.github.io/alft/46

Use any four of the four gold coverging TBs with two tenrais

[stark quiver]

is tashkent's slow skill continous

[viscid swift]

you could also afford to drop Helena entirely

[ivory pawn]

There is a good newbie guide here https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips you can read through to catch yourself back up a bit.
Main daily stuff is do the daily missions, and spend your oil either farming w9+ or pushing to w12.
Opsi looks more imposing than it is, just focus on pushing story and clearing out zones for the first time. Story is marked by a red !, sometimes it's locked behind clearing x amount of zones.

[sweet delta]

Here is an example of dropping Helena https://youtu.be/fPx2VCPhr6g

[viscid swift]

well you won't really sync to her so she's not really doing anything of value

like I've seen Amagi, Shinano, Haku almost two shot her

well you shouldn't really given that means you're not syncing to the times when Arizona is stationary for your carriers to land all of their TBs

[left cedar]

Is there a way to still get UR vouchers? I have 110/200 for Z52

[viscid swift]

well what do you have

[ivory pawn]

Only through purchasing with the event currency.

But there's no way to get more event currency if you don't have enough.

[viscid swift]

for this fight yes

use Shimakaze instead

think I settled on that myself

[sweet delta]

It's a near given that new ships are better than old ships of similar role and rarity

And variety is a spice of life

[viscid swift]

no Yorktown 2 is rerunning next

[undone plover]

kronstdaht is the next perma UR

or however u spell her name

[left cedar]

Kronshtadt

iirc, its naval base near St. Petersburg, that where name came from

[soft raft]

Do you have a screenshot of all your URs

Cuz just listing who you don't have MLB doesn't really help if we don't know who else you have and how close they're all to MLB

[undone plover]

also depends on your goal
if u want to push sth like chapter 15 or pvp then MLB laffey first makes more sense

[left cedar]

52? isnt ?

23 to 52 have a Huge difference visually and in game performance

but yeah, its hard to remember numbers ...

[viscid swift]

yeah that won't be happening

all the URs you have yet to MLB haven't even rerun yet

[turbid dawn]

Okay this may be a stupid question or not even answrable, idk. But basically I've been watching my META fights and they're very inconsistent, my CVs are within .08s of loading yet when I watch sometimes Amagi (the one a bit slower) seems to not get her last airstrike in fast enough? Sometimes everything will fire and hit with like 1-0.5s left on the clock, other times her TBs will be just about hitting the boss or only 1/2 of them have hit her before the fight ends. Does anyone know what could be causing this inconsistency?

[hollow gust]

Could be the result of a slightly poorer device

[turbid dawn]

I mean it's on my computer, not quite sure what to say about that, everything runs on max with np apart from loading the 3d dorm after playing for a bit and it always insta crashes

[hollow gust]

Emulation is almost always worse then actual higher end mobile devuces

[turbid dawn]

I can say for certain my phone ain't high end lol, in recent days its starting to struggle to run this game

[boreal wagon]

emulation also adds even more variance bc emulation isnt perfect and can have lag spikes (but lag spikes also exist even on higher end devices)

[turbid dawn]

Hmmm, is there anything I can do emulation wise to stop this from happening?

[sweet delta]

are you using RPG

[hollow gust]

Either way run a three strike CV fleet instead

[turbid dawn]

No, LDplayer

[boreal wagon]

i think he meant the aux equip

[stark quiver]

rpg the aux, cuz it messes with rld

[turbid dawn]

Hahaha

Yeah actually I am, didn't realise it could mess with RLD

[hollow gust]

Also means that your normal setup is too slow

[left cedar]

rocket propelled granede

[turbid dawn]

I mean it's the CN one, and it reccomended 36 RLD I think and I have that exact amount

[stark quiver]

oaths?

[turbid dawn]

All fully oathed

[undone plover]

what comp did everyone/CN settle on for this fight

[atomic abyss]

for maihou?
impla nano amagi no?

[left cedar]

pretty sure it is, she dosnt move much, and its heavy, perfect target for IJN CVs

[turbid dawn]

I don't think I can get Amagi any slower right, even just a tiny bit?

[atomic abyss]

slower
maybe take out the beacon?

[turbid dawn]

I mean faster*

[atomic abyss]

2 saiuns

[viscid swift]

well 2 Saiuns for one

[hollow gust]

You can just increase CV rld too

[turbid dawn]

I only have 3 +13 saiuns, would it be worth it swapping the JU87 for a +10 Saiun?

[turbid dawn]

36 is the highest I have

[hollow gust]

A faster fighter also works

[turbid dawn]

Im missing what, 5 RLD?

[sweet delta]

just don't run the 6 saiun fleet

because who tf +13's six saiuns and two bearcats/pirates on their own account

[turbid dawn]

But then the issue is I don't have Implac

[small mountain]

just use a +10 Saiun on Amagi's 2nd slot, tried that comp today and it did just fine with Helena

[forest palm]

that is correct there is 41 CV RLD, also CVL RLD is separate and is at 44

[turbid dawn]

Yeah idk, it just seems without a single proc from Helena it's close, then with 1 proc its either1% HP or fully kills

[forest palm]

[hollow gust]

That nahk shouldn't be beating Amagi lmao

[turbid dawn]

I mean there's the gear difference

[topaz kraken]

I just started the game, any advice on what banners I should pull on or should I just keep saving for now? also whats the best way to level my ships up?

[turbid dawn]

Literally just Amagi has a slightly slower TB

[hollow gust]

looks like alot of whiffs, UR CVs dont need Helenas to oneshot

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
1x light build a day outside limited UR events, during them build. so for now, save till the 9th
level ships up early on by using them in battle

[turbid dawn]

I mean nothing misses at all, thats why Soyuz is there, free freeze and 40% extra crit dmg for Nahk

[topaz kraken]

ty

[topaz kraken]

any chance you have the "English Community Tier List" discord that is mentioned in the tips?

if you do could you please send me an invite to it?

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt follow that tierlist as of now

[turbid dawn]

The only thing I can think is interception playing a role since Nahk is that tiny bit faster then Amagi? Idk

[atomic abyss]

it is currently outdated for like 4 months

[topaz kraken]

ahhh I see

any place I could look at the tier list for? like a list that is being updated timely

[hollow gust]

they have been updating on thier own discord till people find time to update the actual website

[atomic abyss]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime (Not updated)
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[topaz kraken]

ty

[atomic abyss]

if you still want to refer to the community one, it's there

tho i seriously wonder if it can still be called a community tierlist when they feel they're not even welcomed by the community

[topaz kraken]

lol aight thanks a bunch

[jaunty glade]

do people typically buyout pr6 bps in the medal shop every month?

[sweet delta]

i haven't bought ship blueprints from medal shop in years

but if youre a newer player who farms a lot of medals then why not

[jaunty glade]

hmm ty, yeah i have way more than i need each month typically - 1300 leftover atm

[barren tapir]

if you have the medals and need the bps then why not i did it in november when i had the medals but skipped december since i didnt

[undone plover]

the DR is worth if u are catching up
the PR less so but still if u have excess medals why not

[stark quiver]

You can if u want, and then just turn into protocore

[agile harness]

theres a good gear build for z11

without UR gear

[sweet delta]

If you mean the UR Z52, use Single 113mm with typical DD gear

[hollow gust]

The better comps don't even use UR gear

[sweet delta]

If you mean the Elite Z11, nothings going to save her

[cobalt gate]

i saw somewhere that hidden below r4 aren't worth the ap? do they not drop gold material or something

[stark quiver]

Under r3 iirc

[cobalt gate]

oh so just r1 and r2 not worth?

[fair tartan]

How do I farm purple cannon upgrade parts?

[sweet delta]

R1 doesn't exist. If you buy the hidden zone item for 1000 vouchers, it's easier to just do all. If you don't, then skip R2 because it's worse than safe C3 zones

[sweet delta]

farm normally, chapter 6+ or events

[patent raft]

Yo guys. How many days left until yorktown 2 and other ships girls gotta rerun??

[stark quiver]

5

[patent raft]

10th?

[cobalt gate]

so the item just allows to auto hidden zone right? otherwise its has fog of war?

[patent raft]

Oh alright

69 cube and 60k+ coins... Hope i cook this...

[stark quiver]

The commission campaign should help
You also get 44 build tickets throughout the rerun

[patent raft]

Yea 10/10 cube = 3000 commission tickets

300 = 1

[fair tartan]

Wait there is a rerun event?

[stark quiver]

This upcoming maintenance

[fair tartan]

Which ships will get rerun?

[barren tapir]

yorktown 2, northhampton 2, hornet 2, hammann 2, langley 2

[fair tartan]

Are any of these worth pulling for?
Fritz vs Yorktown2?

[vast sparrow]

And Kronny btw

She will be in perma pool

[stark quiver]

Yah
Gacha URs are worth pulling for

[cobalt gate]

how is zuihou vs unicorn retrofit

[rain vine]

unicorn is quite a bit better because of preload
zuihou is more of a secondary healer

[stark quiver]

Unicorn retrofit is better at healing in general
Tho zuihou might be better for a full dd frontline

[oak bone]

is fritz worth building up for CH15 as I already have indomitable illustrious and implaceable built up and a nakhimov at DR25

[cobalt rapids]

up to u
fritz will be the best for support regardless
nakhimov needs d30 to do supporting or any other w15 stuff
and fritz is useful outside w15 support aswell

[oak bone]

is Z52 any good for CH 15?

[cobalt rapids]

only one of the top ships

/tierlist by suchiguma has w15 rankings u can check

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹'Samvaluation' - Brief evaluation of new ships by samheart564
🔹Rankings for End Game Azur Lane - Applicable to all forms of late game content (W14/15, META Showdowns, OPSI, CM) by Suchiguma
🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List - Applicable to early-mid game content (campaign up till W13) by Riceist & Slime (Not updated)
🔹CN tier list - by NGA Forum

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[undone plover]

anyone know what is the average expected number of ship drops from 1 sortie on D3 maps?

[barren tapir]

everyones stats ive seen have a 2:3 ratio of ships to attacks or close to it, so i'd say 4-5 ship drops per sortie

[forest palm]

I hardly pay any mind to how many drop

[median topaz]

Hello, im new to this game and in those days i tried to play it on Pc but i dont know why when i leave the game on background my game fps go from 60 to 5-10. any help? (im using bluestacks and LDplayer)

[cobalt rapids]

some emulators have an option to reduce framerate while running in the background
i know mumu does, idk about BS and LD try to check ur settings

[soft raft]

did you already try what I suggested when you first asked in #tech-support ?

[median topaz]

yeah, nothing changed

[soft raft]

Have you already tried talking to other bluestacks/LDplayer users?
Surely there'd be dedicated discord servers for emulators

[hearty lake]

i forgot to ask a really dumb question...
do the high efficiency combat logistics plans increase xp gain or no?

[cobalt rapids]

its like running 2 runs in 1
so double the xp/costs/rolling the dice on drops etc.

[soft raft]

treat them as doing 2 runs at once
which means double everything (including the negatives) except progress for "Do stage X amount of times" type missions

[hearty lake]

oh okay thank the gods. couldnt remember if they di or not. thank you

[woven star]

In some map, like war archive it's not worth. I mean not sure it's used 2 keys but you'll get one ship shard. Just to know

[barren tapir]

it really depends. if you're farming the pity ship/gear from the last map then yes not worth, if you're farming regular ship drops or gear drops then it is worth bc it is 2 runs per data key

[hearty lake]

i have not touched war achives at all i probably should to get the gear and ships i missed shouldnt i

[cobalt rapids]

its all collection stuff

[barren tapir]

if you feel like it

[woven star]

Some gear better get there than in gear lab but drop rate...

[soft raft]

if you want to, sure
99% of the gear in WA is obtainable elsewhere and the few pieces of WA Exclusive gear there is in there is fairly low priority

And the ships are mostly collection besides JdA who has a use for W14-15 boss

[stiff bison]

How good is napoli?

[storm heron]

no 1 durability

[stiff bison]

Damn I thought it was agir

[hearty lake]

so if im just coming back to actively playing what content should i prioritize, highest fleet power in both main and vanguard are 15k, barely any good* gear.

[woven star]

Where can I get 533mm gold torp except WA?

[stiff bison]

Oper Sirens

[gloomy fern]

Can someone help me make a decent lineup

[storm heron]

campaign to 12-4 while doing operation siren

[cobalt plank]

how good is Kronshtadt?

[soft raft]

Which 533mm
Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down

[stark quiver]

Good to have, not good to go for

[stiff bison]

You have to change the format of your fleet

[hearty lake]

i just cleared ch12 entirely. right now im farming 12-1 for pr xp, so guess i just need to start back on opsi again

[stiff bison]

Tank goes far left like the vanguards

[gloomy fern]

I don't know the first thing about fleet setup, I just have the ships I like in there rn

[soft raft]

Give this a read first yeesh
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[barren tapir]

gear lab, and it's pretty cheap

[viscid swift]

where are you in the main campaign exactly

[gloomy fern]

7/4

[stiff bison]

Also planes should not be in the center

[barren tapir]

the main justification for WA gear i can see is rudders if you really impatient or wanna gear a lot of ships

[soft raft]

Yeah you are nowhere close to a 2nd fleet right now
Also why havent you raised Unicorn

[viscid swift]

did you uh buy the PR pack to get Roon?

[gloomy fern]

Got her yesterday

[barren tapir]

i myself plan to grind WA for rudders on dead weeks where oil isnt a concern (which hasnt happened yet tho)

[gloomy fern]

Cause I was informed she was good

[gloomy fern]

I got the packs to get like 4 ships yea

[hearty lake]

wait wat... theres actually a format to formations...

[gloomy fern]

I'm not afraid of dumping money into a game lmao

[stiff bison]

From what I know yeah…

[viscid swift]

so did you buy the 16 dollar one to get Roon and if so why isn't she dev 30 yet

[woven star]

gear lab not so cheap places at all

[hearty lake]

... how i made it through ch12 without proper fleet formations is beyond me.

[gloomy fern]

Cause she was the first one I got and I didn't understand how the blueprint system worked

[soft raft]

if you're talking about german quad mag, german tech boxes

[stiff bison]

U want your DD to be on the right so like a CB can tank it

[barren tapir]

the torps dont use anything thats used a lot so it's cheap

also gl with boxes never got one

[undone plover]

he probably means this
in which case it was added to core shop

[barren tapir]

oh i thought quadmag

[stiff bison]

Honestly don’t rush, play with your pace

[viscid swift]

well rip, anyway for now just stick to one main fleet consisting of
Georgia, Unicorn, AvP, Mainz [filler], Duisburg

[soft raft]

oh then that's niche as hell

[stiff bison]

If you want to do more pr ships go for it

[undone plover]

it was recommended to farm it for pvp back in the day before it was added to core shop

[woven star]

Same about boxes. Any way I almost got as much as I want but that was a long way

[viscid swift]

but here's a piece of advice, don't spread your bullins around like this in future, non MLB ships are garbage

[woven star]

No, other torp

Any way nvm

[viscid swift]

can you just take a screen shot of what you mean, this is ridiculous

[barren tapir]

ha, told you

[storm heron]

ha, take that

[gloomy fern]

Thank you

are any of my other SRs any good?

[viscid swift]

some of them are but I refer you to this

[soft raft]

Yup

[woven star]

Almost have for all ships that I need. Left some vr

[hearty lake]

Any recommendations to fix first fleet? I have all but one UR.

[viscid swift]

what are these fleets for exactly

[soft raft]

I'm already concerened with the lack of Unicorn

[barren tapir]

lol i have more than you, do opsi

[hearty lake]

My normal everyday fleets.

[viscid swift]

again, for doing what exactly

[woven star]

Man I play less 3 month

[hearty lake]

Anything and everything, i had no idea how to fleet build so i be been using these for just about everything.

[barren tapir]

pretty cheap in gearlab, i made 3 today

[gloomy fern]

Yeah I've tried using my bulins just for maxing a ship

[soft raft]

First off, go ahead and post your dock in a thread

[barren tapir]

oh fair ive played 3.5 months

[gloomy fern]

I've played a week

[viscid swift]

well first off, the firther you get into the game the more you'll want to start specializing your fleets and if you're farming easy content like W12 or events you don't want to use maxed ships because that's just wasting XP because the content is not nearly difficult enough to require using maxed ships

[woven star]

When you have materials

[viscid swift]

just keep doing OpSi and the mats will rack up

and just keep opening tech boxes

[undone plover]

I have been playing for 1.5 years and I dont have that many quad mags

[barren tapir]

anyway my point of cheap is very little good gear uses those specific materials so it's easier to obtain more of the quadmags than, for example, flapjacks

[viscid swift]

though you might wanna consider +10ing the ones you already have

[hearty lake]

Fleet halp

[viscid swift]

Surprisingly I don't have that many

[barren tapir]

chronic gearswapper spotted (or u dont use many dds )

[woven star]

I hate boxes) to many crap thing and so many times need to disassemble

[hearty lake]

Thread is created

[barren tapir]

boxes giving quadmag is surely a myth