gameplay-help

[sharp socket]

this is why i asked cause there'll be more info that i dont hear

[sweet delta]

They don't need bulge but bulge isn't bad

[viscid swift]

Don't underestimate just how much damage those torps do

[keen sable]

that torp on sandy...

[sharp socket]

i havent updated my w15 fleets since november

[storm heron]

shimanto deserve sandy's torp

[sharp socket]

so i happen to be doing it now

[storm heron]

is the 30% even on the modifiers?

[sharp socket]

its a good thing i have 2 of those now

[storm heron]

pretty sure sandy's torp is dook dook though

I'm sure that damage reduction is some other things, capped at like 1 damage

[cedar hawk]

All of a sudden I feel afraid to ask for help here

[storm heron]

I feel you sometimes

it's okay to be afraid tbh

[sharp socket]

is this better

[cedar hawk]

The majority of people's levels are so high that if I was given three years to catch up I still wouldn't even come close
Anyways, I just need some fleet recommendations tbh

[knotty pulsar]

I'm on 4-1. Do you think I could get to the chapter that will allow me to get the free cubes from event?

slave time then

[keen sable]

you have 2 months. there's no hard stuck until 11-3

[knotty pulsar]

Oh I didn't even check how long it was gonna last

Alr thx imma go get on this

[storm heron]

nah, 1.5 years give or take

[cedar hawk]

[stark quiver]

yo, what ship has the highest ramming dmg in the game

[storm heron]

glowworm? idk if mog counts

[sharp socket]

mog?

[stark quiver]

so its still bulin

[storm heron]

I heard L'indomptable is good at ramming? nvm

[cedar hawk]

What fleets could I build from this?

[storm heron]

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Give that a read if you haven't already as well for quicker progression

[viscid swift]

First, do it in a thread
2nd, for what content

Though based on your dock I'm guessing the latter will be campaign below w12

[pallid robin]

are you new? how did you get amagi...

[keen sable]

strange dock

[viscid swift]

The account is from November 2023 at least

[cedar hawk]

Indeed it is
I also missed like five events in a row due to college (please end my suffering)

[viscid swift]

Fleet help

[cedar hawk]

I think I'm on w7

[stark quiver]

would this sync work for taihometa

[storm heron]

I also missed like five events in a row due to college
me when musashi banner

[sharp socket]

seems fast enough, prob yea

if using with helena

[storm heron]

looks like 3 strike, but why though

[stark quiver]

why not
and no im not using helena

[storm heron]

I thought you have implac

[sharp socket]

if no helena then whatever sync works will work

as for 1shot i have no idea

[storm heron]

it doesn't sync to helena's 3rd btw

also that's literally what I was using before, it has only 36% chance of one shot (when 2 first radar procs)

[vale hill]

What 3 vanguard ironblood ships should i use to farm exp for shipyard?

also should i make my backline weak for farming vanguard exp?

[keen sable]

anyone besides agir, roons and z46 and adalbert

[stark quiver]

only got her down to 30 bars 💀

[vale hill]

why?

[stark quiver]

theyre max lvl or close to max

[sharp socket]

slightly better than my fast BB

[storm heron]

heinrich, z52, otto, duisburg, z1, z9

[vale hill]

but i'm just farming for shipyard research exp

[stark quiver]

make the most out of your xp gains

[sharp socket]

shell acc moment

[vale hill]

if i use weak ships wont it waste oil?

[stark quiver]

use xp books to level them

[elfin hollow]

does anyone have the link to the PR research site that had drop rates for gear prints?

[storm heron]

what even happened here, the variations lol

[sharp socket]

shell accuracy

whether or not the shells/barrages land on enemy

[fast steppe]

what does the lighthouse in hidden zones do

[ivory pawn]

Reveals the zone. That's it.

[keen sable]

reveals the map

[woeful laurel]

is it generally better to buy UR dupe from event store or just purely use specialized cores for ur bulin? was thinking of buying gear skins from event store but won't be able to buy them all if i convert to UR voucher

[fast steppe]

that's weird the map was already revealed when i entered lol

[storm heron]

some people do not buy hidden zone loggers

so they either call recon or go to litehauss

[fast steppe]

oh right i bought logger

[storm heron]

up to you, do you prefer UR bulins or some cosmetics?

[soft raft]

You'd only need 30,750 pts to get the remaining # of vochers you need (105) to get the dupe

And iirc the gear skins are like 8k total

[storm heron]

oh right yeah

[sharp socket]

sir its 300 not 200

[woeful laurel]

the skins in the box are 20k i think

[storm heron]

but he's correct on the total lol

[viscid swift]

What why

You can use pretty much anything to farm w12 on safe

[sharp socket]

105 vouchers is incorrect

[soft raft]

oh wait yeah nvm im off 💀

[ivory pawn]

30,750 event points is correct.

[storm heron]

but 205 * 150 still 30750 haha

[sharp socket]

but
the total is correct, how the heck alright then

[viscid swift]

Like so

[stark quiver]

max tech diff

[soft raft]

the # of vouchers needed was wrong but total was correct
wahey

[storm heron]

reminds me of that simpson meme, back is high tech, rainbow equips

[soft raft]

she's only good if her two layers of RNG work on a consistent enough basis

[vale hill]

isn't the shipyard exp based off of dmg so if i use weak ships i have to clear more stages to get the 2m exp needed

[storm heron]

like 40% consistent damage increase instead of how it is now?

[soft raft]

??????
Where did you hear that?

[stark quiver]

3bb taiho, 5th shot was too far off 💀

[vale hill]

i made it up

[viscid swift]

No XP earned is constant based on the map you farm with the only modifiers being flagship, MvP and high morale bonus

[storm heron]

assumptions are dangerous

[vale hill]

oh yea how can they mvp if they weak (so that means less exp)

[stark quiver]

mvp control is pointless if youre grinding shipyard xp

[storm heron]

they'll always be 1 mvp

[vale hill]

what stage do i farm to grind the exp?

[keen sable]

time is xp

[storm heron]

but banguard mvp control is pointless

[viscid swift]

Mvp control will not make a significant difference

[keen sable]

12+ or D3 of active events

[vale hill]

im only on 10

[stark quiver]

does anyone have a 3bb anti heavy sync i can use

[stark quiver]

time to start grinding, u can do the xp stuff later

[vale hill]

it's like 1 hour per stage

[keen sable]

you can push and should push with capped ships

[storm heron]

it's gonna be worth trust

[vale hill]

do i have to 3 star

[storm heron]

optional, feel free to do it later if you want gems and stuffs

[vale hill]

cool ima not 3 star

i could always use the credit card strategy if i need gems

[plain saffron]

But free gems

[sharp socket]

what are your BBs

[keen sable]

time is money and xp

[stark quiver]

sashi,bis2.alsace

[sinful escarp]

imo 3 star them rn. too lazy to come back and clear them again

[storm heron]

but 3 star them later better for oilcap

[stark quiver]

rn i just copied one of the heavy setups cheeky used

[keen sable]

it's probably better to not 3*

[keen sable]

because of this

[vale hill]

when is next UR event

[keen sable]

thursday

[storm heron]

in 6 days 11 hours

[viscid swift]

Next week on the 9th

[sinful escarp]

oh yeah, i always forget that is a thing after clearing

[vale hill]

that's fast i remember back then it was once every century

[keen sable]

it's a light rerun

[hollow gust]

BBs basically require helena, Hp creep effects BBs alot

[vale hill]

who is the next UR

[sharp socket]

BBs cant 1shot anyway, you can just use champy + doubleshell

[keen sable]

yorkii

[sharp socket]

or this if you must

[viscid swift]

Next event is a rerun of Yorktown 2's event

Just run CVs, pretty much guaranteed 1.4 million damage

When their event is archived

[woeful laurel]

can the new years invitation still be obtained? i'm not sure if i missed the 2025 one

[stark quiver]

no

[knotty pulsar]

Is there a guide for research academy so I don't mess up?

[keen sable]

it or it's memento will be in your depot

[hollow gust]

depending on which ones you want, getting dupes instead of waiting may be a better choice

[storm heron]

(https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research)

[woeful laurel]

yeah tried looking for it, couldn't find it. oh well!

[rare wyvern]

Kazugumo 120 is fine for Harby purposes ?

[hollow gust]

she will survive, prob

[rigid onyx]

hp creep? what's hp

[viscid swift]

Hit points

[soft raft]

how much Health they have

[rigid onyx]

ah

[storm heron]

[rigid onyx]

in retrospect that was obvious but for some reason I thought it meant heavy plane

usually see that type of creep usually just called enemy stat creep or smth

[stark quiver]

This was with , she procced right after last bb fired

[viscid swift]

I reiterate

[storm heron]

what tech? half?

[stark quiver]

max rld
idk like half hit a third fp

[storm heron]

I think he wants to do some cooking, he has implac

[stark quiver]

ima just do the implac bb sync

[viscid swift]

Evidently not going very well

[storm heron]

the ark royal bb sync ahh comp

[sharp socket]

ah max rld can do 4strike i think

[stark quiver]

is the support fight a 1:1 to my own fight

[viscid swift]

For now yes

[storm heron]

yes, support barrage haven't started

you know, those barrage that helps people one shot their own fight

[storm heron]

yes unless said support fight is this kind of fight

[rose cosmos]

Yorktown 2 banner soon then?

[tropic tusk]

Yes

[viscid swift]

On the 9th yes

[balmy adder]

Is there any sites/web that have barrage n special air strike data (type, dmg n armor modifier)?

[whole crypt]

does rumey start 2/2? her LB only adds 2 planes?

[tropic tusk]

I like how they know they suck us (new players ) dry on cube n they added this event for us to get some cubes back

[sharp socket]

this looks usable for max rld but i dunno if jam is as high as lars calc says it is

[faint nimbus]

We can't farm for the extracellular specimen anymore?

[sharp socket]

cause i thought BBs were 1s jam

[faint nimbus]

Man...

[rose cosmos]

Btw rumi's build is still two fighters?

[hollow gust]

depends

[stark quiver]

sextuple

[tropic tusk]

Isn't rod over bow?

[rose cosmos]

I’m out of mats

[storm heron]

nah that choice of planes, aa, and aug

[rose cosmos]

What do you rec

Two tigercats?

[sinful escarp]

is there a better tank to put here? for opsi (i have agir but she is in my BB fleet)

[faint nimbus]

Where do you get the auxiliary gun you're using for Fritz?

[storm heron]

Campaign: flapjack, wyvern/flapjack, a good CL gun like you use on vanguards, catas catas bow
Single target bossing heavy armor:
Single target bossing medium armor: bfg bfg staag catas catas scepter
Single target bossing light armor: hvar hvar staag catas catas scepter

[stark quiver]

guam

[hollow gust]

"general content"
Light boss
Medium boss

[rose cosmos]

So you use cl gun instead of aa then

[stark quiver]

so much +13

[sweet delta]

Why'd you buy the UR vouchers that are now near useless

[faint nimbus]

Z52

[balmy adder]

General content better use Dive Bomber for AoE damage like Helldiver

[storm heron]

bros sacraficing bps for less than one day's worth of coins

[tropic tusk]

The mid boss planes are pr7 research right?

[fast steppe]

should i save my remaining event currency for oil and buy right before maint

[sweet delta]

Less than half a days worth of coins

[sharp socket]

i didnt buy all bps either cause i only farmed to 62k

[hollow gust]

i did my math wrong and bought 40 extra tokens

[storm heron]

I did my math wrong on and short 5 tokens

[fast steppe]

i bought 10 extra on the assumption that i wasn't gonna get duis

[whole crypt]

I did the usual 100k and didn't have enough for the glorified bulin

[stark quiver]

nnt fleet pwr grinder?

[whole crypt]

I scoff at fleet power so no

[tropic tusk]

Say if I dev 30 all ships and fate 5 in PR4 and I keep doing research in PR4 will I be only getting wep research?

[stark quiver]

no

[agile harness]

for a taihou meta fleet build should i create a thread or can be here

[storm heron]

I mean nobody's here

[fast steppe]

on average how much oil do i get per week

[tropic tusk]

But a high chance to get weapon research?

[fast steppe]

might do a few w13 clears soon if i'm gonna overcap anyway

[tropic tusk]

Depends how Ur rng words /active U are

[stark quiver]

22628 not countint for dailies and comms

[storm heron]

26,668 Oil/Week (Plus 1500 Oil from Monthly Login, Plus Commission RNG, Plus Limited Event Shops, so it's most likely way higher).

[whole crypt]

20-30k, depending on comms

[fast steppe]

aight i'll go do w13 then

[agile harness]

these are all the ships i have for fight against the meta

[storm heron]

maybe 30k-40k, depending on comms

source: Shikikan Sam

[sweet delta]

Over 41k

[sweet delta]

Musashi Shinano amagi Eldridge Kazagumo shimakaze if you were asking for a fleet

[agile harness]

yes

but, who is going to be the tank?

eldridge?

[storm heron]

eldridge can tank even with with 2 damaage aux

[sly robin]

Is this good? I skipped the first event and i heard there will be a rerun

[sweet delta]

It is the best anti light fighter ||for now||

[barren tapir]

emphasis on ||for now||

[sly robin]

Got it. Thanks

[sleek vessel]

What gun does Z52 needs

[storm heron]

a fast one. gold 113, blue 76

[willow dock]

Say I want to get some fleet technology up for a nation, is it only worth to get fodder ships up to lvl 100 or full send for the 120?

[barren tapir]

lvl100 doesnt give any tech points so...you either do mlb or 120

[sleek vessel]

Gold twin and blue twin

[willow dock]

Oh right....

[storm heron]

it is worth it to 120 for tech

[barren tapir]

"twin"

doggo out here inventing new guns

[storm heron]

OH

[storm heron]

no no it's single

gold single 113 from gear lab and blue single 76 from research or tech box

[sleek vessel]

Can i see what it's looks like

[vale spindle]

Commission Exchange Plan FAQ

1 Point = 5 Minutes spent for commission.

Wiki Link

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Commission_Exchange_Plan

Shop Priority

Cubes > everything else. To see how to unlock items in the shop, check out the wiki page of the event.

Point Requirements

Points needed to clear shop: 26800.
Points needed to get all cubes: 18000.

Point Income

The event lasts 8 weeks (56 days). You get 1 point every 5 minutes spent on commissions.

100% commission uptime: **64272 points **although maint ended early so you might get more.

Minimum uptime needed to clear out shop: 558.3 hours / slot, or ~9.97 hours per slot per day for the duration of the event.
Minimum uptime needed to clear out cubes only: 375 hours / slot, or ~6.7 hours per slot per day for the duration of the event.

Note: Quantity of commissions done does not affect point gain. It is solely based on duration only.

[storm heron]

I will pin this in a moment

[sleek vessel]

Ohh thanks lemme see if I find

[vale spindle]

<@&472236072743600148> pin plz

[barren tapir]

thats twin128

[storm heron]

look at the royal navy dd guns

[sleek vessel]

Ohh shi

[vagrant steppe]

What should I be spending my prototype cores on DR blue prints or on rainbow gear?

[sleek vessel]

Sure

[storm heron]

also just use the blue twin 76, you can find one in crafting

cause you look poor

[storm heron]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[storm heron]

yeah yo look poor

go to depot, and find the single 76 mm on the crafting tab

[sleek vessel]

Cause I don't do anything

I mean doing ops

[sleek vessel]

I did have those

[barren tapir]

do opsi smh

[sleek vessel]

But what lvl do i need to get those part

[barren tapir]

do all of opsi each month and youll be rich in no time

[sleek vessel]

.

[storm heron]

it's all rng (the drops)

but you can get some guaranteed in the shop

[grizzled sundial]

Short review for York 2 ? She also anti med like Rumey ?

[sleek vessel]

Hmm thank

[stark quiver]

anti light demon, can equip 2 fighter
basically very good for campaign also

[storm heron]

2 fighter slot?

[stark quiver]

1 figher 1 flex

[storm heron]

:percyhodo\

[torn latch]

What is good fleet for Katsuragi extreme challenge monthly

[storm heron]

https://suchiguma.github.io/challengemode/january take a look

[torn latch]

Nice

Oh wait I think I already beat her before

Free 4k golds at least

[zinc hornet]

Can anyone help me build a boss fleet? I'm at 13-3 and starting to lose ships to bosses. My mob fleet (also use this for OPS mobbing) is FDG, Independence, Unicorn, Anchorage, An Shan, San Diego and does absolutely fine.

First 3 images are main fleet SSR/UR ships, then 4 images of vanguard SSR/UR ships

[viscid swift]

Well what was your boss fleet exactly that you were trying to use

[zinc hornet]

i messed around with it a bit but I think I had Vanguard, Sara, Shinano, Portland, Helena, Kazagumo.

Might have been any combination of Amagi (CV), Shinano, Saratoga as the 2 CVs

[vagrant steppe]

Thank you

[viscid swift]

Yeah your boss fleet lacks AA

[zinc hornet]

yeah i thought that was probably the issue. I found my main fleet started dropping before my vanguard

[eager mulch]

[wind hazel]

raise scylla or get cheshire, put on mob, move sandy to boss
vanguard enterprise shinano

[torn latch]

If only you raise your enty

[viscid swift]

Mob: Saratoga, Unicorn,Independence, Portland, An Shan, Chang Chun

Boss: FDG, Shinano, Amagi CV, Anchorage, Helena, San Diego

[zinc hornet]

I've found that I consistently do better with Vanguard over FDG, but I don't have fate sim for FDG yet

this is for all bosses, not just main campaign

[eager mulch]

how

[viscid swift]

Main campaign bosses are a different kettle of fish to OpSi bosses

[eager mulch]

vanguard’s damage isn’t bad but the other Ur BBs should have more aside from warspite

[zinc hornet]

I have higher damage against taihou meta, monthly challenges, and OpSi with vanguard

[torn latch]

Ppl beat w13 fine with fdg without fate sim

"back in my day" moment

[rain vine]

who are you pairing vanguard with, because shes mainly used as support for full bb fleets

[vagrant steppe]

Is there a channel with all the commands?

[zinc hornet]

Yeah, the problems im starting to have with bosses are more to do with the rest of my fleet than with my flagship. just my observations that Vanguard results in more damage (as a whole fleet) than FDG

[rain vine]

do /tags in #bot-spam

[torn latch]

Just use #bot-spam for spamming bot command, you also can scroll the chat there

[zenith peak]

are there any ship that boosts trp damage?

[zinc hornet]

It can be anything but honestly it's usually 2 CVs. I used to run Hood, Vanguard, CV before I levelled more CVs but that's old

[torn latch]

A quite lot

[vagrant steppe]

Ty all

[zenith peak]

Gib a few

[eager mulch]

Amagi CV

[storm heron]

[eager mulch]

[storm heron]

mogador, z52, helena

[rain vine]

noshiro muse

[torn latch]

still waiting for amagi emote server invite

[storm heron]

noshiro, hiei

[fast steppe]

does having plenty ammo affect aa damage as well

[eager mulch]

YES

[latent pelican]

Hey guys, sorry for the noob question, only been playing for a couple days, is the upcoming yorktown II worth saving up for me or would it be a skip?

[torn latch]

Any URs from gacha banner is worth to raise

except Shimakaze perhaps

[storm heron]

worth saving up and pulling, also I think your cube count matters more for the question you're asking

[tropic tusk]

Seeing how U have triggered akashi's quest line ,would U be interested in doing her quest and unlock her into the gacha pool and also get her 1 time for free?

[zinc hornet]

I'll give this a crack and report back when I have more oil. thanks everyone for advice

[left ridge]

Get the UR gear

[tropic tusk]

I did not say click the paw this time

[torn latch]

Btw STAAG is the best aa gear for Fritz right? Just to make sure

[storm heron]

[latent pelican]

The UR gear...that would be from the event shop correct? (sorry trying to take in the huge load of info at the start haha)

[torn latch]

And double cata on fritz?

[wet badge]

YO WHY IS YK2 NEXT

[torn latch]

Oh wait, I forgot about timing sync stuff

[wet badge]

NOT EVEN 1 MONTHH

[viscid swift]

Because the devs decided so

[wet badge]

Time to spend my savings

[torn latch]

^

[zinc hornet]

is this a bad thing?

[soft raft]

were you not here last year when they pulled off the same thing with Tallin event

[wet badge]

Yes

[tropic tusk]

We are getting cubes event this week tho

[fast steppe]

idk how i'm ever supposed to get out of my proto bulin backlog like this

[soft raft]

He's prob bitching about how he lacks enough cubes or somethin

Cuz Yk2 is mega pog

[viscid swift]

We've also known about this since before the last event even started

[torn latch]

Depend if they are running out of cube or not

[wet badge]

No cubes no bulins

[eager mulch]

even i knew this

[soft raft]

^
Literally ever since the livestream

[merry leaf]

How good is Yorktown 2

[latent pelican]

Got it thanks! One last question...do I always just analyze these? Not sure what they're for yet but I'm assuming I don't need to keep them as is and just analyze all of them?

[rain vine]

always analyze

[soft raft]

always yes
the XP Grind is the easy part of research

[eager mulch]

analyzing them is the much better use

[latent pelican]

kk thanks a bunch

[torn latch]

Very good, still one of popular UR CV ship for full CV fleet

[zinc hornet]

do people blow too many cubes or am i very lucky because i've maintained 300+ cubes over the last few events and got every ship

i have 470 now

[storm heron]

afaik I only spent like 50 cubes

[torn latch]

R
N
G

[viscid swift]

Well I have every ship in the game and over 1600 cubes so your mileage can vary

[wet badge]

Yo what stage do i farm for coins

[torn latch]

12-4

[tropic tusk]

12-4

[torn latch]

Or highest campaign map you can beat if you haven't reach w12 yet

[wet badge]

Aight

[tropic tusk]

Then yes the highest U can do

[wet badge]

How much should i get?

[torn latch]

Highest you can, as long your oils are enough

[tropic tusk]

How ever U need

[viscid swift]

I'm free to play by the way

[elfin hollow]

how tf

[viscid swift]

I've been playing for over 4 years

[wet badge]

Aight

[torn latch]

Just being old player who barely ever take a break from the game

[viscid swift]

Actively

[tropic tusk]

When U play the game for a while U won't be pulling reruns

Meaning less pull per year

[zinc hornet]

I played a couple of years ago until i hit level 70-ish, quit for ages, and came back right before Vanguard a few months ago

[rain vine]

you get 168 cubes per month, not including cube commissions
if you include cube commissions, probably close to 200

[torn latch]

I've got 97.6% ship collection with 960 cubes atm, and I took a break from this game for two years

[wet badge]

How much hvars should i build

[storm heron]

cheeky do you have stuff like extra lafii, extra mog, and extraz52?

[stark quiver]

as much as you can grind

[viscid swift]

Yes

[wet badge]

Aighttt

[rigid onyx]

Do you roll for 4 URs for fleet power

[stark quiver]

have you finally started fp grinding cheek

[viscid swift]

No

[elfin hollow]

i mean you still gotta be lucky, unless you hit the 200 pull pity

[viscid swift]

I have enough to grind as is without adding in fleet power

[rigid onyx]

You get enough cube income to pity every UR

[tropic tusk]

No I mean at that point he only needs to roll new banner while us the new players roll ever banner

[storm heron]

I thought u said cheeky doesnt have full fp tech

[tropic tusk]

U see the difference? We roll every banner while he only every few banner

[elfin hollow]

i know, but on the new stuff you gotta get lucky

[wind hazel]

being lucky goes a long way, yes

[elfin hollow]

idk what im doing wrong but I barely got to like 70 on the last banner

[tropic tusk]

Even if he doesn't get lucky and needs to pity he only uses 200 every few months , while we use 200 every month

So on rerun banner the guy just sits there n roll nothing

[elfin hollow]

then there are the side banner units

[viscid swift]

I pull on every new banner still and there's a new one every month

[wet badge]

Should i replace hakuryuu w yk2

[viscid swift]

Situationally dependent

[elfin hollow]

getting research points is a pain

[zinc hornet]

oh btw what planes do i put on shinano for bosses (noob question yes)

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/htmlview?pli=1#gid=0

Might wanna give that a read to get an idea of when

[tropic tusk]

Wt do U mean by point

[storm heron]

mby faction points

[elfin hollow]

yeah that

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

Might wanna give that a read

[tropic tusk]

There was a bot commend for showing U the way , I can't seem to find it

[elfin hollow]

well yeah I know how but its still a pain

[zinc hornet]

ty

[tropic tusk]

How is it a pain if U know how

[viscid swift]

Well where are you in the main campaign

[elfin hollow]

chapter 10

[storm heron]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

Might wanna give that a read

[elfin hollow]

mainly leveling ships

[viscid swift]

Then you shouldn't focus on grinding tech right now

[tropic tusk]

Try to push to 12-4 then do fleettrch

[elfin hollow]

well earlier I was told to

[viscid swift]

Get to chapter 12 first then grind tech points

[fast steppe]

is it more oil efficient to wait for clearing mode before going for the last 2 stars of campaign if i'm running a full fleet mob

[storm heron]

definitely yes if oilcap stages

[little tree]

What Armor is Harby this month?

[elfin hollow]

mind helping me make good fleets for it? im fine so far but I can feel the powercreep

[tropic tusk]

They change every month?

[little tree]

yes

[tropic tusk]

Did not know that

[crisp wraith]

It rotates between three bosses with different buffs.

[storm heron]

EoSers detected

[little tree]

EoSers??

[frank pulsar]

pvp leaderboard grinder

[tropic tusk]

Been playing for a year didn't notice they have armor change

[storm heron]

forget it, it's nothing

[little tree]

I might need help with an anti light build

[viscid swift]

Start a thread and post your dock

[sweet delta]

i forgot to send it

[storm heron]

[tropic tusk]

U sound like a salesman

[storm heron]

sure, do you have a designated thread?

[little tree]

I have an old one ill add you to

[frank pulsar]

just donate random materials that they want for guild coins

[wind hazel]

this font is tilting me

[strange sphinx]

[tranquil ferry]

whats the better carrier duo
shokaku and zuikaku
hiryuu and soryuu retro
or fox twins

[wind hazel]

none

[tranquil ferry]

oh…. i see

thats unfortunate

[soft raft]

Shinano, Amagi CV, and Haku are the only relevant IJN CVs in the long run

The rest are at best tech fodder

[tranquil ferry]

i have shinano

[zinc hornet]

what does IJN stand for

[tranquil ferry]

im in world 6-2 though idk how to really use her

[fast steppe]

what's the strats involved for tech grinding? books to 100 then 12-4?

[tranquil ferry]

imperial japanese navy
or sakura empire ships

[zinc hornet]

ah okay ty

[tranquil ferry]

well im not intrested in world 15 yet
im asking because i have all the twin japanese carriers and i want to build a fleet out of them

because the duo aviation bonus seems fun to play around with

[wind hazel]

more or less yes

[tranquil ferry]

but ig they suck zzzzzzz
i dont even have the capability to upgrade shinano tho shes permanently 3 star for now

[sleek vessel]

Can I have what Z52 use

[fast steppe]

wondering if i should start that already or focus on levelling my mlb URs first

could do both ig

[fast steppe]

are there any tools i can use to import my fleet to tech tracker?

[stark quiver]

no
you manually input everything

[fast steppe]

cause i see these so i was wondering if there's something i could use

but if there isn't then it is what it is ig

[stark quiver]

those are used to import from https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

[fast steppe]

ic

are there any german backliners who have important 120 tech? researching avp atm

[tranquil ferry]

where can i see a carrier tierlist

[stark quiver]

a lot do

not a lot apparently but here

[tranquil ferry]

i need it to make an important decision on who im gonna retro after sandy and unicorn

[rigid onyx]

portland & starter DD for missions + cheap

id retro indep before sandy simply because of how expensive it is to retro to UR

[tranquil ferry]

i dont have her i think

[fast steppe]

buy her from core data shop

[soft raft]

Portland and your starter DD (Laffey/Z23/Javelin)
You gotta do them for rookie missions

[tranquil ferry]

im almost done with sandy bro 😭

[viscid swift]

For future reference

Better to ask for the full context before giving an answer

[viscid swift]

That's fine

[tranquil ferry]

i even have her microphone

[viscid swift]

But where are you in the game and what are your options of ships to retrofit

[fast steppe]

he's in w6

[tranquil ferry]

im at world 6-2
i can show you my 2 fleets
theyre both missing a backline

[soft raft]

Why are you doing both Sandy retro and a second fleet this early?

[wind hazel]

very juiced for w6

[soft raft]

Hoo boi

No unicorn is already a pretty bad sign

[tranquil ferry]

im halfway done with her retrofit

[stark quiver]

bro has kaga before me 💀

[tranquil ferry]

shes just at level 85
aka underleveled

[soft raft]

Underleveled my ass
Lvl 86 is already overkill for W6

[viscid swift]

Yeah....

[soft raft]

For reference lvl 94 is in the ballpark of W9....

[tranquil ferry]

i have both fox twins
i have the first second and third carrier divisions
i was wondering which was the best pair to build my 3rd fleet in the future

[stark quiver]

none

[fast steppe]

on one hand i feel like clearing out more of w13 but on the other hand i could use the coins and xp from grinding 12-4

[tranquil ferry]

i want to have atleast one carrier division man okay
soryu and shokaku are waifu

[rigid onyx]

Its better to have 1 good fleet rather than 2 mediocre ones, and 3rd fleet for opsi shouldnt even be thought about until you completed 12-4 imo

[stark quiver]

you dont rly need anything past w12
unless u wnat gem/collection

[tranquil ferry]

thats why i asked which set of carriers are the least bad

[fast steppe]

does w13h drop more core data than w12h

[rigid onyx]

You probably should make a thread with your dock

[stark quiver]

well, if u rly want to, then thats that, just a warning, those ships arent excactly good nowadays

[stark quiver]

yah

[fast steppe]

was thinking about just pushing now to maximise the 3x

[stark quiver]

a good 2 more

[soft raft]

Yee
30 per W13H clear

[tranquil ferry]

its for waifu purpose
but i still havent got an answer to my question

[viscid swift]

What even is 3rd carrier division

[tranquil ferry]

Shokaku and zuikaku

[viscid swift]

That's 5th carrier division not 3rd

[tranquil ferry]

wait no youre right 3rd is zuiho and hosho

so first second and fifth

[soft raft]

Wouldn't Hiryuu and Soryuu be the least shit

At least that's what I recall

[stark quiver]

i mean... they give good tech?

[tranquil ferry]

i will gladly retrofit soryuu and hiryuu
i love soryuus design

[viscid swift]

But seriously what do you have go work with exactly because this is a lot of guesswork

[tranquil ferry]

i do want to make them work though
and its not like im doing this now
my fleet still has to be built properly

[tranquil ferry]

uh
i can screenshot what i have

[soft raft]

This is the part where you post your dock in a thread

[stark quiver]

bruh i need 2 more wyverns , akagi and 2.5k more plates

[tranquil ferry]

how do i do that

[tranquil ferry]

thx

[stark quiver]

on pc, top right screen

[fast steppe]

actually since soumet drops 2 cv/cvl reload at 120 should i just prioritise her for dossier

[stark quiver]

go ahead

[tranquil ferry]

Questions on what to do, in world 6-3.

[fast steppe]

does musashi want flag or off

[wind hazel]

she prefers flag

[fast steppe]

i'm guessing the skill that triggers for off doesn't really do much if she's not taking dmg

[dusky vale]

is there any good equipment to look out for when i open tech boxes

[wind hazel]

quite a number, depends on what you need, like quad mag torpedo, steam catapult, oxytorp etc

[stark quiver]

with average luck, how many t3 ords can i get a month, counting all the converted t2s

[dusky vale]

what are oxytorps

[torn latch]

Torp for subs

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Type_93_Pure_Oxygen_Torpedo#tabber-tabpanel-Type_2-0

[fast steppe]

works for DDs as well

[torn latch]

What

[soft raft]

Yup

[wind hazel]

it's an aux gear...

[soft raft]

Stat padding go brrrrrrr

[dusky vale]

is it just a sidegrade of the thing you can buy from core shop

[keen sable]

aux that gives torp stat

[fast steppe]

works on anyone with torps actually

[wind hazel]

the one from core shop is the better version

[keen sable]

worse in every way

[stark quiver]

its a downgrade

[fast steppe]

is this fleet good enough to 1 fleet 12-4 on safe

[torn latch]

Did I never realized that you can use it on DD because I always use rainbow dildo instead

Autocorrect moment

[wind hazel]

swap out uvh anchorage

[stark quiver]

huh

[fast steppe]

damn ok

[wind hazel]

also i suggest raising another 6 shitters on second fleet and don't mono fleet

[torn latch]

The black torp aux thingy is still better than gold oxy torp aux on DD right? Or am I wrong

The aux that make your torp turned into magnet/homing

[soft raft]

Niche #pvp aux
Esp since the effect only works once

[fast steppe]

who else is not too shitter rn

[stark quiver]

everyone under lvl 120 that has good tech

[fast steppe]

also have nj at 110 not pictured

[storm heron]

:alphadoubt:

[stark quiver]

did i misunderstand the question

[wind hazel]

i dont think so

[storm heron]

maybe cheeky's top emote is albadoubt and it was a misclick

I sometimes misclick roonpoint too

[eager mulch]

i wonder what my top emote is

[storm heron]

and then people thought I was emoting my own message

[wind hazel]

it's amagi-chan

[storm heron]

I thought it's the peepor...

[eager mulch]

7 out of my top 10 are amagi-chan

[fast steppe]

how shitter is too shitter for 12-4

[eager mulch]

common dd

[fast steppe]

i meant level wise

[stark quiver]

just 12-1

[eager mulch]

16th

[stark quiver]

under lvl 90~

[wind hazel]

just book everyone to 100

[fast steppe]

don't think i've got 12-1 on safe yet

[eager mulch]

0

[stark quiver]

where can i get mutsiki

[wind hazel]

with lv100 you can max enhance all the shitters, bringing them to max potential while being cog locked 👍🏼

[eager mulch]

/wiki mutsuki

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

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Jan 3, 2025, 5:46 AM

[fast steppe]

i'm also trying to get my URs up to a usable level so idk if i should book shitters to 100 or URs to 120/125 first

[stark quiver]

hm, light pool

[dusky vale]

are magdeburg and prinz adalbert any good

[eager mulch]

book all to 100 and then just level them normally

[viscid swift]

Never use XP packs on ships that can be leveled via grinding

That defeats the main purpose and strength of xp packs

[stark quiver]

u got that affinity to grind too

[wind hazel]

mag good cl 2fp tech, adalbert is decent

[stark quiver]

fuck i scrapped my mutsuki

[fast steppe]

ran out of books

[viscid swift]

Also why did people say level 100....

[wind hazel]

what's wrong with booking them to 100

[eager mulch]

because i can use them to make books

[viscid swift]

It's overly expensive and unnecessary

[eager mulch]

i used the books to make the books

[wind hazel]

i dont find that true at all

[viscid swift]

Which part?

[wind hazel]

overly expensive

i book mine to 100-1 and i still have almost 3k every time and need to waste them on random shitters again

it makes grinding much more comfortable, especially when you are beginning on the tech grind

[sweet delta]

why book to 100 when you can save 44 books by only booking to 99

[viscid swift]

Well

[wind hazel]

and especially if they have average gear

[viscid swift]

That among other things

[wind hazel]

i cna assure you he was booking random UR past lv100

[fast steppe]

this probably

[viscid swift]

Level 90 is perfectly adequate for 12-1 on safe and uses hundreds of less books

[rigid onyx]

i book to the min that it will work in a 12-4 grinding fleet, whether thats like 95 or 70s

[wind hazel]

ok then let me ask this in return. what are you saving the excess books for??

[elfin hollow]

hello do we have an example of fleets being used for OpSi? I would like to create one but don't know which ships to use or where to start

[wind hazel]

what is 44 extra books gonna make or break

[viscid swift]

You are free to then spend them elsewhere

Use them to prep the next batch of ships that need levels for instance and save hassle for the next round of ships

It pays to keep on top of that to make the transition smoother

[stark quiver]

#gameplay-help message
something like that for ops fleets

[wind hazel]

i havent had any exp book issue with booking them to 100-1

so i dont understand the part where it makes transition not as smooth

[viscid swift]

Also helps to have a reserve when you urgently have a ship that needs to be leveled asap

[sweet delta]

i only book to like 70, because i need to save books for taking random ships from 120 to 125

[stark quiver]

ignore third flt, 4th is crossfleet spam

[elfin hollow]

Thanks

[viscid swift]

I just simply don't like expending resources when it is necessary

[stark quiver]

nah, dorm a ship from 0-100, book to 120 then grind last 5 🧠

[wind hazel]

agree to disagree then. i dont find it really that big of a difference between lv70, lv90, or lv99

[viscid swift]

And leaving yourself on a position to be caught flat footed

[wind hazel]

especially when using lv100 ships makes more exp book at the first instance

[rigid onyx]

most people do

1. mob fleet
2. bb fleet
3. cv fleet
4. best of leftovers fleet

stacking crossfleets is worse than just the best 4th fleet you have if you are on the cusp of being able to do harbi

[viscid swift]

I've honestly never noticed the drop off

[wind hazel]

and i told you i never noticed my exp book amount dropping below 2k too

it's really negligible difference you are trying to save

[viscid swift]

And level 90 and on occasion even level 70 ships have acquitted themselves in 12-1 with no issue

[rigid onyx]

levels 90 --> 100 is fairly expensive for books

(164)

[wind hazel]

yes but you dont book ship to lv100 every single day do you

[viscid swift]

Considering I rarely ever drop below 2950 xp books these days

[wind hazel]

again i wanna ask, what are you saving the 2950 books for

in what situation you need to multi book ships for emergency

[fast steppe]

though for someone with next to no books stockpiled i don't think i should be copying your strats exactly

[rigid onyx]

idt book income is large enough to book every ship to 100 as you level them

[wind hazel]

nobody is saying that

[viscid swift]

A rainy day

Just in case there's some meta shift and I have to book a bunch of ships up

[wind hazel]

when that day come, you can @me and i will apologize

until then let's agree to disagree

[viscid swift]

But anyway

Another point is newer players will not have as many xp books to work with

Because they naturally have less income and my preferences require less up front cost

[storm heron]

I agree, my books only kept up till 95 (I have 6 dorm slots)

[viscid swift]

Which can be quite beneficial

[wind hazel]

we were talking about tech grinding...
this isn't about new player

[rigid onyx]

Passive book income isnt enough to sustain booking every ship to 100 as you level them for tech grinding I'm fairly sure

[fast steppe]

i'm new to tech grinding at least

[viscid swift]

Precisely

[fast steppe]

anyway are these shitter enough to handle 12-4 safe

[wind hazel]

then how do mine sustain itself

[storm heron]

you'll figure out the flow tbh, just make sure to keep a couple thousand books in your inventory

[rigid onyx]

there's like 12 different explanations. I have no idea if you tech grind more than cog income, have purple book income from packs, etc

[viscid swift]

Easily if they're competently geared

[inner delta]

yours sustained because you had a life outside the game and not just 24/7 grinding

[storm heron]

if you can't keep up with the book cycle, you can always just level to 90 (instead of 95 or 100) and go down to 12-1

[inner delta]

mine sustain too because i don't just grind shit out 24/7

[wind hazel]

brother, i grind

[rigid onyx]

I like having enough books saved to get a ship from 1-125 to not get caught if there's a sudden meta shift and I want to try something out

[fast steppe]

haven't got 12-1 on safe yet though

[wind hazel]

i grind more than 90% of you here

[stark quiver]

more than enuff

[viscid swift]

It will take no more than 10 runs

[rigid onyx]

If you also are grinding a lot of ships to 125 you naturally grind up less ships etc

[viscid swift]

And even then I've run far worse set ups

[storm heron]

rip hvars

[proven mist]

Is it worth it to use high efficiency plans on war archives? Does it count as 2 runs for the milestones?

[viscid swift]

No for the latter

[stark quiver]

whats the argument even abt

[wind hazel]

disagreement on booking ship to 100

[stark quiver]

btw, i have 740 dock, shd i get more dock or unlock last 2 dorm slot

[viscid swift]

Actually now that I think about it there's probably a simple explanation

Being a vet the average level of random shitters you need to level is naturally just gonna be a lot higher than newer players

Right now the average level of ships in my dock is well over 74

Thanks to years worth of commission XP

[whole crypt]

I usually only book ships nowadays if I intend to affinity grind them during the event, I don't need to spend chips earlier than necessary

[viscid swift]

You to you really

[wind hazel]

well your side of argument is also mostly about saving books to level boost ship for competitive usage

in which this is 95% not applicable to the average players at all

[viscid swift]

Well that's what I save them for

[wind hazel]

well yeah, for you and the rest that want to try things out

[viscid swift]

Could be saving them to insta boost ships for any reason really

Frankly

[midnight flower]

What's the difference between sp and ex stages in war archive?

[whole crypt]

what's the point of booking ships to 125, you need to grind affinity and level skills anyway and there's no usage that needs you to throw out a ship overnight

[wind hazel]

@rigid onyx for your ❓

only a very minority playerbase will do this

[rigid onyx]

the average player has to spend books to be able to burn bulins for limit breaking

[wind hazel]

correct

[viscid swift]

And there will be a lot of switching up for grinding PR ships

[wind hazel]

also correct

[rigid onyx]

when your only focus is fleet tech grinding your book income balance is at the greatest

[wind hazel]

but that's 3 ships at most

[viscid swift]

That just eats XP packs and/or dorm time

And given that the grind can be done comfortably in about a week

[wind hazel]

how many exp books it is again for lv1 to 100

[rigid onyx]

373

209 for 1 --> 90

[wind hazel]

so ~1.1k for 3 ships

3 ships for PR grind

[viscid swift]

Which is a lot no matter how you slice it

[rigid onyx]

i think that balancing your book income is something that is natural as soon as you have any small reserve

so there's no point in this conversation

[wind hazel]

yeah let's agree to disagree, for final time

[whole crypt]

no one really needs to 1-100/125 a new ship unless you want to go headfirst as a tester

[midnight flower]

Guys..?

[viscid swift]

It's stupid frankly and why I never actually do it

[whole crypt]

just drop the ship into dorm for a week then level normally and affinity grind, need time to level skills anyway

[viscid swift]

The map format mainly

[rigid onyx]

in theory if a new-meta sub drops i want to have a decent reserve of books

[wind hazel]

how many book is 1 to 120?

[midnight flower]

I mean the stuff in war archive @proven mist

[rigid onyx]

1260 (1512 for rainbow)

[stark quiver]

they wer asking war archive

[wind hazel]

less than i thought

[proven mist]

Ahh, I'm really sorry

[wind hazel]

oh non UR

[stark quiver]

i mean i wouldnt be that mf who books to 125, then calls a ship bad

[midnight flower]

Do the last stages still give the same amount of xp no matter the event map?

[viscid swift]

No

[midnight flower]

Uhh can elaborate?

[wind hazel]

different enemy ship levels

[viscid swift]

Pretty self explanatory, you can check how much XP each map gives on their respective wiki pages

[wind hazel]

so the lower one, usually SP ones, give less exp

[rigid onyx]

some kimochese type shi

[midnight flower]

So generally, newer ex events give more xp?

[viscid swift]

No

[wind hazel]

not necessarily

[viscid swift]

The events usually have one of only a few formats the and XP doesn't change if they are of the same format

[whole crypt]

in practice you'd still need a week to level skills and raise affinity, the ship isn't going to be top meta in its incomplete state

[rigid onyx]

specifically for a sub it takes me vastly longer to level them than it takes to get to max affin & skills

[midnight flower]

Alr then thanks

[whole crypt]

which is fair but still doesn't warrant a full dump from 1-125

[storm heron]

books are plenty until you realize it takes a whole century to level subs to 125

also is there really no sub rld tech?

[stark quiver]

ill stick to my fishpack forever

[whole crypt]

just fill in the gaps after affinity and skills are done

[storm heron]

I was gonna stay for wolfpack until suchi came

[whole crypt]

I'm staying wolfpack because I'm lazy and I'm not oathing another 3 subs

[viscid swift]

It didn't take that long to level up Flasher with just dorm and excess book XP

Just be patient and don't try to do it all at oncr

[whole crypt]

game isn't hard enough to need to max that sub margin

[storm heron]

what do you guys put in your subs anyway?

[stark quiver]

Torps

[storm heron]

my subs deals like negligible damage

[stark quiver]

if youre worried, just go full rainbow

[rigid onyx]

they are good for campaign & heavy arb

why rainbow equips on subs

[storm heron]

2x +13 rainbow torp, moggun, snorkel, oxytorp

[stark quiver]

why not, if you want damage anyways

[sharp socket]

+13 tash gun for sub is

[lyric echo]

I have 4 UR Bulins, I'm assuming I should do Soyuz and Alsace?

[rigid onyx]

i always thought double bidder, snorkal & hull design was bis, or an oxytorp if you can skip snorkal

[stark quiver]

and oxytorps are for one strike burst damage

[storm heron]

you should watch something to open your mind

[sweet delta]

what URs have you maxed?

[lyric echo]

Most of the others

[sweet delta]

amagi and alsace

[storm heron]

partial lbs

[whole crypt]

that's usually the case, rainbow sub torp is not homing so there's pros and cons

[storm heron]

and with this I wonder how was one strike not possible

[elfin hollow]

Is there any special mechanics I need to take in consideration when feeding Drake and Kidd (meowfficers), like do I have to enhance them cats with good abilities so they can get it?

[whole crypt]

also only fishpack can use rainbow torp without being short-changed, wolf doesn't have enough oxy

[sweet delta]

when wolf doesnt have enough oxy for 24 95k, then they will also have a decent chance to not get 24 bidder

[elfin hollow]

So I just enhance them with whatever cats?

[sweet delta]

at least CM definitely favors 95k over bidder, and for hard arbiter, hermit is obvious (for one/two fleeters), while bidders are good for temperance and strength and three/four fleeters

[whole crypt]

24 bidder is just one reload isn't it, you should usually get it unless you drop snorkel

95kai can't finish second reload even with snorkel

[sweet delta]

CM is long range, so bidders are often out of range

[whole crypt]

well not for considering CM, also don't really remember non-firing issues with hull

[storm heron]

what about CA RLD, how relevant is unzen gonna be, how many reload in total do I need to sync with mogador/breakpoints?

[sweet delta]

~~sucks to be a wolfpack user then ~~

non-oathed albacore with only +20 RLD already fires 24 95k

[stark quiver]

24? 95k?

[whole crypt]

I'll just reiterate the lack of homing and game not being hard enough to make me switch

[storm heron]

it's the number of rainbow torps

[stark quiver]

also who oaths their subs

[keen owl]

Does event rerun take a year or something? Before i can clear this one.

[elfin hollow]

can I see typical fishpack equip please

[keen sable]

two

[storm heron]

to years

[elfin hollow]

thats ocd issue for 2 years lol

[keen owl]

Have to wait two years then. Thanks

[storm heron]

just wondering whether I should do fp/hit vs rld first (or maybe I'll just do dd fp first considering 3 ships use them)

[stark quiver]

bidder bidder gun snorkel hulldesign

[keen owl]

Got lazy and forgot to 3 star it

[elfin hollow]

thanks! no rainbow oxy for fishpack?

[stark quiver]

most situations dont require it

[keen owl]

Are there new monthly item on core rewards?

[whole crypt]

fish can get away with oxy/hull off the top of my head, but whatever

[sweet delta]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oYHrNUrNnogOGb7lOOJFpBJRIroYrvoV02AILV7-Uik/edit?gid=683587378#gid=683587378

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

i like how ur name is just stigma

[storm heron]

suchi leaking trade secrets left and right

[vale spindle]

Don't think so

The latest ones were j crown and Angel feather iirc

[keen owl]

So nothing new right now. Thnx

[stark quiver]

dont worry ill always remember the Zstigma days

[little tree]

Will uzen lilky rerun this year?

W

[shell willow]

up to 5 the more the better

[stark quiver]

as much as you can, theres no absolute goal

[shell willow]

kear takes 1 and 2 cv takes 2-2

[rigid onyx]

yorkii --> implac --> biszwei --> unzen for UR reruns

last year we had uvh --> kron --> vanguard --> musashi, so we probably get unzen around the same timing as the musashi rerun, but its all speculation

[storm heron]

anyone wanna join me on a holiday while people farming hvars?

[rigid onyx]

hopefully its bugged again

if its not ill probaby be stuck with 2.5 hvars or something sad

[stark quiver]

If they just reuse the map id and coding then it might stay

[cunning bison]

which (ur) bbs are good for mobs

[wind hazel]

the blueprint droprate was higher

[whole crypt]

friendly reminder if the farming isn't working out for you the "needed" rocketcats is just 2: 1 for Kearsarge and 1 for Yorktown II

[stark quiver]

I mean I can just fill up the rest of the slots with la9s prob and wait for archive

[whole crypt]

even just bfgs

[stark quiver]

So I’m not rly stressing abt it anymore , nice to have, not the end of the world

[whole crypt]

and after archive I would also expect to see the plane in lab

[cunning bison]

hi

[rigid onyx]

mobbing in what context

[stark quiver]

Any honestly

[whole crypt]

basically all of them

[stark quiver]

Besides warspite

[cunning bison]

ok whats the best tho? accounting barrages etc

[stark quiver]

Takes a year to archive right ?

[stark quiver]

Musashi paired with Aquila

[whole crypt]

roughly, last 2 UR archives were early relative to rerun, but reruns were late relative to original

[stark quiver]

Man I don’t even know if I’ll have time to play in the future lol

[cunning bison]

owo what bout nj?

[stark quiver]

She’s ok, starting to get on the lower end of UR bbs

[whole crypt]

NJ is basically the worst UR BB for mobbing after Vanguard

again, we do not include spoot in any of these

[bold stream]

Hello all. Why doesnt my airstrike loading change even with homing beacon?

[elfin hollow]

What are best BBs for mobbing?

[stark quiver]

That screen doesn’t account for it

[whole crypt]

bacon doesn't affect displayed launch time, it just applies in-fight

[cunning bison]

whats spoot

[bold stream]

My god.. i need to compute it manually..?

[wind hazel]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/

[cunning bison]

ah warspite

[wind hazel]

life is simplified with this

[whole crypt]

go use a launch time calculator but it's roughly 1s

[cunning bison]

biszwei good for mobbing then?

[whole crypt]

generally Musashi is best

[golden moth]

Is rumey excels on light or medium armor?

[bold stream]

Yeah, 0.8 reduction secs at 20s..

[whole crypt]

BisZwei's is good when you consider 0 ammo fights with cert

[cunning bison]

the only sakura urs/drs i hv r shinano and unzen breh

[golden moth]

What cert?hmm

[whole crypt]

don't have to use her with IJN ships though

[rigid onyx]

full faction fleeting is suboptimal

[whole crypt]

the usual comp for lategame is Musashi/Aquila/Unicorn

[wind hazel]

i think he meant he doesn't have musashi, and only have unzen and shinano

[bold stream]

How do you guys time AvP and freeze mechanic in general. Can AvP launch last? I mean since she triggers her skill instantly while the planes need to fly..

[elfin hollow]

can I use that for OpSi mob fleet? How about FdG for mobbing?

[rigid onyx]

opsi mobbing is super easy so you dont have to care if you just have unicorn somewhere

[wind hazel]

2nd, use the calculator i linked you

[whole crypt]

yes but it's overkill and you'll probably use different planes on Aquila than cmpaign

[elfin hollow]

I see, thanks, I'll just focus my strong ships on boss fleet HE AP, instead of using them for my mob fleet

[whole crypt]

I usually just eyeball it and take a second off AvP

[whole crypt]

/wiki certificate

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Certificate_of_Sponsorship

[whole crypt]

if the timing is off just reset and tweak planes

[cunning bison]

in what fleets/situations is indep good in?

[whole crypt]

I find that easier than just spending time on a calculator

[bold stream]

So you launch AvP last?

[wind hazel]

[whole crypt]

AA, mobbing, great for 13 and 15, also fast launch for OS

[plain saffron]

Do we have enough ship to make UR CV fleet for all 3 armor type yet

[bold stream]

I get the feeling that the I am wasting her barrage avi ampli thats why I am asking..

[plain saffron]

Wait nvm we lack another slower

[wind hazel]

we probably can no?

[whole crypt]

no I just look at the equipment screen and assume AvP's actual time is about 1s faster, if it's off then you can fine-tune with different planes

[bold stream]

I see. You launch avp first just with tight timing..

[cunning bison]

so os mobbing?

[rigid onyx]

os mobbing is easy enough that unicorn can carry basically anything, but nonetheless independence is great in opsi mobbing

[dusky cedar]

do i mlb alsace or soyuz first for ch15?

[wind hazel]

that's not what he is saying

maybe you missed me message earlier or you have me blocked ( ) or something, but usually you want to put your freeze/slow to launch 2nd

what nnt is saying is that he doesn't use calculator to do that

for real, use the calculator i gave you above, it makes your life easier

especially if you want really tight timing for whatever the case

[bold stream]

Okay I didnt see the second launch thing. But I saw the claculator.

My bad...

[whole crypt]

well I know the way around my planes so guesstimates are often good enough, using an actual calculator will give you a better idea of launch times and launch order

[bold stream]

How tight does these launches need to be? With avp specially since she the only freeze I have.

[plain saffron]

Who's 3rd stopper

Need full CV opsi fleet

[bold stream]

Is 0.5s kinda okay for this?

[wind hazel]

i was thinking ijn+avp, soyuz+cat, implacable+USS, but i have my doubt

[plain saffron]

Have bb

[hollow gust]

Avp needs to be under .2 preferably lower though

[bold stream]

Thank you! I will aim for that.

[whole crypt]

IJN should go with Implac for heavy, if you want 3 CV fleets

[wind hazel]

ye i just dont buy the 3CV armour variation in general

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

not to mention the vanguard being half baked as a result

[whole crypt]

well doing that leaves you with only space for soyuz for BB and cross

[hollow gust]

Still a more reliable onefleet then BBs

[whole crypt]

still leveling Taihou so not touching the setup yet

[hollow gust]

Perferably would rather run a BB/cross fleet for fleet 4 but

[whole crypt]

been saying this for years but you're just picking your flavour of overkill nowadays

[wind hazel]

why is your ham 124

[hollow gust]

Still haven't gotten around to leveling her max

[plain saffron]

Where's cv mobbing fleet

[hollow gust]

I needed some crossfleet at least

[stark quiver]

Grey the ultra whale

[storm heron]

[glossy granite]

When you get duplicates of a ship do you use Limit break with them or enhance with them?

[plain saffron]

LB, only common used for enhance

[tropic tusk]

actually is it possible to use anything that isnt common for ehance?

never actually try to click it by hand

will it boost more?

[barren tapir]

it is possible but a waste

[storm heron]

yes, one guy once enhance a bunch of maxed akagis by putting the new URs ship inside

[stark quiver]

Yes but it’s a waste, just turn them to medal

[tropic tusk]

ok

[fiery swan]

i have the research slot open so who's a good ship to grind for

[tropic tusk]

wt do u have/dont have

[sharp socket]

(not in order) fdg, anchorage, agir, avp, haku, ply, brest, harbin, shimanto, nakhimov
depends on which you have or dont have already

[fiery swan]

currently don't have brest, shimanto, and nakhimov

[tropic tusk]

u can ignore brest and just go shimanto and nakhimov

[storm heron]

[sharp socket]

are you preparing for w15 and/or have guam and laffey2

[tropic tusk]

is that right?

u guys said u dont use brest anymore anyway

[fiery swan]

as for URs i have everyone from october 2022 onwards except for yorkii and unzen

[sharp socket]

guam is better for her uses but some people dont have guam

[sharp socket]

then go nakhimov

[storm heron]

agree

[sharp socket]

you can build shimanto but no need to research her cause catchup soonish

[fiery swan]

it's mainly grinding i'm concerned about

[tropic tusk]

how do u guys know theres a catchup soon ish? or did they say it somewhere

[tropic tusk]

u cant really do anything about that as its just a time base wait for research

[sharp socket]

based on past events

[still gate]

should i spend those research xp packs on friedrich?

[fiery swan]

This is everyone I have who can grind for nakhimov

[sharp socket]

no convert to protocore

just grind the xp its not that bad once you're on w12

[rain vine]

use the first 3 listed

[still gate]

ok, thanks

[fiery swan]

Despite everything Aquila didn't spook me on either Amagi or Rumey banner

[tropic tusk]

or grind in opsi if u have no life, cause no need to rest there

[fiery swan]

Meanwhile this is everyone I have who can grind for Shimanto

[tropic tusk]

its normal outside those 4 main teams u get so little of them

[still gate]

sounds reasonable

[last zenith]

Can someone pls explain this, i don't quite understand

[amber frost]

How do I change my fleet list for meta show downs ?

[glass niche]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Otto_von_Alvensleben

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Felix_Schultz

[fiery swan]

hold up is impero actually that good

[last zenith]

Why does the gear has buff when equipped by a dd but i can't equip it on dd?

[glass niche]

because it "can" equip by special DD.

[last zenith]

Oh

[glass niche]

like 2 above

[last zenith]

Only 2 of them can have that gear?

[glass niche]

not sure but I rmb these two

z23 too

she can use CL gun

[last zenith]

I don't have her

I only have z52 and shimakaze

[fiery swan]

is it worth it to make uss bocchi kearsarge instead

[rigid onyx]

DR/PR ships are all really gimped until dev 30 with certain exceptions for certain vanguard ships

so just unlock whatever's close to dev 30 or convenient if none

[fair mountain]

Im haunted by a ghost, how to fix this?

[tropic tusk]

relaunch game / fix assets

[glass niche]

just play sirius

[fair mountain]

Has the same issue, its like this since noshiro got added, before sirius was ok...

[fair mountain]

Will try

[last zenith]

Why does the standard fire control don't have effect on musashi

[sharp socket]

you have yk2 and implacable, with those 2 kear is good

[glass niche]

its does but not show in UI

[sharp socket]

well mainly york2 is needed for kear and sorta vice versa

[last zenith]

This game has a lot o bugs

[glass niche]

its not a bugs just its only work on first salvo

[fiery swan]

i don't have yk2, am aiming to get her on the rerun

[tropic tusk]

yea she coming next week

[glass niche]

Homing Beacon is difference, this one reduce every airstrike

[sharp socket]

it only affects first salvo so in battle you will see her fire faster but only for that one shot

[fiery swan]

currently just need someone as an easy grind target along with decent usability because nakhimov and shimanto have difficult exp requirements

[sharp socket]

you can use fleet calculator tool to see it better https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/