gameplay-help

[south sequoia]

shes great

good damage good aa, good bulk

[gaunt oracle]

is she tier 0 or tier EX

[slim dawn]

tier 0

[gaunt oracle]

shes not on the tierlist yetbruv

[weary gust]

Faction fleets are not optimal.

[soft raft]

go ask the ECTL People, not us

[boreal wagon]

the tier list is basically dead by now

[soft raft]

that's cuz they havent updated it since August

[gaunt oracle]

oh man

[slim dawn]

so in dealing with light armor whos better yorktown II or rumey?

[soft raft]

tho I wouldnt be surprised if they conservatively prelim her at T0

Laffey II was T0 before she got bumped to TEX

[south sequoia]

Might wanna ask over their discord, their tier list hasnt been updated since july 2024, but they still do output their own evaluations in the discord

[weary gust]

Both York and Rumey are better at light than heavy.

[shell willow]

part of rumey's 2nd red skill, this applies to the rest of the fight?

[boreal wagon]

it applies till she sinks so yes

[gaunt oracle]

is shinano comparable to them or shinano better/not worth

[slim dawn]

there's no timer so i guess till the end of fight

[shell willow]

[slim dawn]

get both lol

shinano for heavy

[weary gust]

Shinano is better vs heavyt.

[zenith heron]

ever since I met gph, they strayed me away as to what Quyet has sadly been doing with their statistics

[gaunt oracle]

aight, i just dont know which to use on mob or boss

[slim dawn]

gph who?

[weary gust]

It's difficult to be more misleading and put out more misinformation than Quyet. It's like the dude is trying to be as wrong as possible.

[zenith heron]

peeps here at gameplay help,

I mean I had me thinking how Bristol is good on OpSi

[novel condor]

Gph = gameplay help

[atomic abyss]

Yk2 cos of skyraider

[slim dawn]

i thought that was a youtuber lmao, quyet, jimmy and azurlane meta are the only azur lane youtubers i watch

[weary gust]

Don't watch AL Youtubers.

[atomic abyss]

Jimmy is... Much better by comparison

[slim dawn]

are they even here

[soft raft]

Sextuple or UR AA for Z52?

[weary gust]

99% of them don't know what they're talking about, and the videos are often YEARS out of date.

[atomic abyss]

Probably UR

[gaunt oracle]

is z52 better than yuudachi?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[gaunt oracle]

oh ok can sum of u gimme gear recco

[atomic abyss]

Needless to say pls upgrade them

[weary gust]

Double toolbox is not quite optimal

[boreal wagon]

its "optimal" if you dont have any of the 550 hp auxes

[wind hazel]

Goldburn enjoyer?

[slim dawn]

why?

[glossy ruin]

Btw can z52 replace z23 or can be on vanguard together?

[boreal wagon]

bc dds usually want hp and the only thing better than a second toolbox is one of the gold 550 hp auxes
in most cases that is, everything in al depends

[tepid frigate]

Does buying furnitures from dorm increase comfort level?
Even if i dont actually use it

[wind hazel]

if we wanna go the "optimal" route, then the quad mag also isn't optimal, AA gun, so on so forth

[boreal wagon]

there are only so many places where you actually want speed

[soft raft]

Z23 is nowhere close to how cracked Z52 is
as for the 2nd part of your question, depends on what the fleet looks like and what content you're doing but Z52 would most likely replace Z23 in a majority of scenarios

Of course, provided that Z52 is MLB in the first place

[soft raft]

You dont need to place dorm furniture for it to give comfort
tho you'll reach a point where it's gonna be difficult to get more comfort, but you'd probably already have alot of comfort at that point anyways

[tepid frigate]

Is 333 confort level still a bit low?

[wind hazel]

above average

[bold stream]

Hello all. How is your rumey doing? Please share your experience and views of her with me...

[wind hazel]

she's working hard in commissions

[tropic tusk]

shes sitting in my dock doing well

[whole crypt]

she's happily leveling thank you very much

[spring mesa]

she's constantly exhausted from farming event

[soft raft]

lvl grind on D3
not much else when we're all still raising her skills

tho she's looking to be solid anti-light/med and very good for W15 Support fleet

[bold stream]

Okay.. she is that bad?

[rotund creek]

you guys have Rumey?

[soft raft]

No...
Just that no one has her fully maxxed out yet

[bold stream]

I see thank you!

[tropic tusk]

we though u asking how we treating her

[bold stream]

Yea, because if you treat her bad.. means she is a bad girl

[tropic tusk]

how is sitting in my dock means shes bad

[whole crypt]

how is leveling her treating her bad

[bold stream]

I mean she is lazy enough to just stay in dock? And leveling for old players means she is not worth the exp books?

I mean.. sorry.

[forest palm]

anything of interest in the patch notes, or just part 2 outfit stuff?

[gaunt oracle]

help my game has been like this what do i do

[forest palm]

try switching to mobile data

[gaunt oracle]

it doesnt load

ok

[eternal moth]

There's no way to speed up finishing her skills, so she's not worth using yet. She's also not the best choice for a heavy armor comp, so won't fit into the current META fleet. That doesn't mean she's bad

[forest palm]

ok...

[whole crypt]

we have a predicted niche for her and it's not going to be in the current showdown, and there's no way to level her skills any faster

[gaunt oracle]

it doesnt work

[soft raft]

And?
do you have a question or are you just complaining?

[gaunt oracle]

should i reinstall

[forest palm]

this is more for #tech-support

[rotund creek]

I meant to reply on something

[soft raft]

Sounds like #tech-support

[soft raft]

That still would've been very random and off topic ngl

[upbeat wagon]

she is waiting for another ur bulin at level 70

[still nest]

why she needs 2x repair toolbox?

[atomic abyss]

she doesnt

ideally you want something with more HP than a 2nd toolbox

[forest palm]

2x tool kits is just the generic common DD aux

[soft raft]

double toolbox is the basic DD aux setup for people who dont have other 550 HP Auxes

[atomic abyss]

most of the 550 HP auxes are limited in number after all

[upbeat wagon]

i should raise level limit of ships whenever possible right?

[atomic abyss]

either event limited or core shop limited

[soft raft]

asap yes

[upbeat wagon]

like the ships that ill use

[atomic abyss]

limit break? yes
cog awakening past 100? hold back once hitting 120

[upbeat wagon]

ight

[raven canyon]

Is gold suisei better than helldiver?

[atomic abyss]

far worse

[soft raft]

Helldiver is like 2nd-3rd best DB in the entire game

[eternal moth]

Blue helldiver is better than gold suisei

[raven canyon]

jeez historically accurate ig

[tropic tusk]

But leveling also boost moral how is that bad?

[atomic abyss]

the only thing better than the purple helldiver is a rainbow DB

[whole crypt]

the only bombers that are really better than helldiver are all rainbow

[raven canyon]

what about gold BTD?

[soft raft]

or its gear lab upgrade at +13 but it's not worth it

[soft raft]

dogshit terrible

[raven canyon]

good god i spent so much resources on the BTDs i have like 3 level 8 BTDS

[atomic abyss]

scrap them to get some resources back

[raven canyon]

guess so

[whole crypt]

welcome to the shiny trap

[raven canyon]

oh ye is the gold barracuda any good

[atomic abyss]

now that is good yes

[raven canyon]

sweet

[eternal moth]

It's considered entry-level gold, as there are better, but it's good if you don't have Wyverns or some of the other parallel TBs

[raven canyon]

can you guys give me some suggestions DD aux slots

[soft raft]

double toolbox

[atomic abyss]

double toolbox is the poverty option

lacking a second toolbox, use a blue fire suppressor

[raven canyon]

alright thanksalot

dam i really need more catapult and AA guns

[forest palm]

if you're researching PR4 then you may wanna check if you can craft Twin 90 mm

[strange sphinx]

hmmm is that the AA?

[forest palm]

ya it's one of the better generic AA guns

[soft raft]

This yee
It's basically a upgrade to the American Quad bofors

[rotund creek]

its Italian one

[raven canyon]

hon

[strange sphinx]

ah the one I thought to be Roomba

[soft raft]

That'd be the Twin 113

[strange sphinx]

this is Royal navy right

[atomic abyss]

yes

[soft raft]

tho if this is for Vanguard's British gear req slot, both of the top BB AA guns are British anyways

[strange sphinx]

sexy is one them and the single right?

the main fleet AA I mean

[soft raft]

Hazemyer and STAAG
Tho Sextuple is British yee

[strange sphinx]

Hazemyer is the one with FP right the twin gun that have Upward pic

[forest palm]

no that's the Twin 134

[strange sphinx]

oh

[forest palm]

Hazemyer are just baby STAAG

[strange sphinx]

oh that one

I thought the Radar thing is a human head

[soft raft]

Honestly do I really need to go for the Z52 dupe if I have 40k Spec Core in the bank

[strange sphinx]

[eternal moth]

no

[strange sphinx]

and you have YK2 am I right

[soft raft]

yup
I have every gacha UR

[strange sphinx]

sigh Trying to still get Rumey

[forest palm]

[stiff bison]

Is there a point of being in the leader board for the event EX?

[remote quarry]

Bragging rights

[stiff bison]

That’s it? LMAO THATS SO TROLL

I guess being top 10 ain’t too bad

[wet badge]

Is there even a reward for ex?

[dusk maple]

500 cog chips

[still nest]

am I lacking?

only exchange left at event page

[stiff bison]

Get all of them

[faint cloud]

AL tends to make the harder contents give less or even no actual awards to make average ppl can get the most resources

Like awards between arbiter and H arbiter

[stiff bison]

That’s good tbh, I can’t do h arbiter for some reason

[still nest]

wdym?

[strange sphinx]

how?

[stiff bison]

Yet the event is ex is easier, probably because I focus on auto too much

[stiff bison]

Idk I thought we were suppose to auto h arbiter

Lowest I got was around 10-15% then I gave up

[strange sphinx]

ah yeah well If you're using CV, manual

[stiff bison]

Am I suppose to go manual for h arbiter?

[jaunty vault]

harbiter is autoable

but if you can't kill it auto, manual might work

[rotund creek]

you can kill if you manual it probably

[jaunty vault]

it really depends on a lot of factors

[stiff bison]

I’m probably playing arbiter wrong or something

Probably just manual into auto

[bold cove]

Lacking what? Ur voucher?

[tropic tusk]

Tbh U can exchange everything at the last day ,cause as U play and do daily uvwill earn Ur voucher so U don't need to rush exchange Ur Ur voucher and just exchange when U earn enough by playing

[stuck sage]

guys, if i didn't get fritz, will this pity moves to next banner?

[tropic tusk]

Cause by the end I'm sure U will earn more then 500 Ur voucher just by playing

[stiff bison]

Speed run it for the leaderboard

[eternal moth]

No, you'd need to buy some of the vouchers to reach 500

[eager mulch]

[tropic tusk]

I earn enough to buy the 200 this morning just by playing tho , or is it limited to how much U can get?

[eternal moth]

A lot of the vouchers are front-loaded in quests. Once you get past a certain point you don't earn as many per day. 200 is pretty easy to get, 500 not so much

[tropic tusk]

I see well I'll see wht I can do before exchanging that 300

[wind hazel]

if you could check the pin, you will notice you will cap at 345 without exchanging

[tropic tusk]

Oh

[soft raft]

Gacha UR Pity does not transfer between UR events

And it's Separate from permanent UR pity as well

[elder parcel]

heyoo! does anyone have a consistent one shot comp for taihou meta to share, or the closest possible to it?

[whole crypt]

@storm heron so yeh, there goes all your testing, that's also taking an additional large CV node with no ammo for shits and giggles

[elder parcel]

ty! how about the gear? do you also have it?

[eternal moth]

That'll take a little longer, as I don't have it written out.

[tropic tusk]

Wait U can 1hit with that team? A lvl 15

Wtf are U shitting me? For real? The requirement so low

Can I see Ur wep n mods

[whole crypt]

I don't see what's low with that team

[eternal moth]

What do you mean low? That's the heaviest-hitting team you can possibly make

[tropic tusk]

Cause this was my team and I had to 2hit it

Seems like I'm just bad

[whole crypt]

no slow support and probably gear issue

[eternal moth]

Ok... I have far more synergy than you do

[tropic tusk]

I try copy tmr and see if I can also one hit it , thankyou

[whole crypt]

just for the record

[elder parcel]

oh, the vanguard is different from hamaal's

[bold stream]

Advance merry christmas to all.

Is this proto type 406 any good? Who uses this?

[whole crypt]

it's a decent fast gun that's good on BBs for mobbing if you don't need AP or to hit harder

[tropic tusk]

That's alot of rainbow,I'll have to get back to U in 3 years to have those kinds of gears

[whole crypt]

that's kind of the point

also the +13s

[tropic tusk]

True imma just stick with my 2hit then

[whole crypt]

and it's still not 100% oneshot

[tropic tusk]

Only played for a year and I can 2hit a lvl15 meta I'm happy

[worn quest]

i heard from here that i should be farming around 55k event points, am i not supposed to get the second z52 copy?

[eternal moth]

https://mrlar.dev/s/13633edfb1c0fe23280e264aed9169fe84883090 Just pretend everything on main fleet is +13

[elder parcel]

niceee, thank you so much

[tropic tusk]

Wait a min I actually have everything in Ur build ok I try tmr 3q

[eternal moth]

It's not always a one-shot, but it's more consistent than when I was running Unzen instead of Helena

[elder parcel]

shinano is missing her augment, but i'd assume is also bow since the other 2 are using it

[whole crypt]

bar to clear for more consistent non-Helena one shots is higher but once you're clear of it you're less RNG than Helena procs

[eternal moth]

Just keep in mind that I also have almost all main fleet tech as well.

[hollow gust]

Helena gaming , always at her mercy

[eternal moth]

Actually i have them with all staffs instead

[tropic tusk]

U mean the tech point?

[eternal moth]

No, I mean fleet tech.

[whole crypt]

bow is just AA coping anyway

[elder parcel]

i'd give a try to your comp, but spending all the plates +13'ing the rainbow torpedoes makes me

[tropic tusk]

Wht is the max

[whole crypt]

you can probably make it withouth +13 oxytorps but RNG will be less in your favour

[tropic tusk]

Wait so I'm nowhere near

[whole crypt]

[elder parcel]

yeah, definitely

[eternal moth]

The only thing I'm missing is 2 AVI, from Albion and Maihou

[tropic tusk]

Rip looks like I'll stay with my 2hit then

Thx anyway

[eternal moth]

You can try it and see how it works, though

[whole crypt]

the comp I'm using is 0RLD so there's that
but CVs are oathed so if not oathed will have to adjust for that

[elder parcel]

2acc as well, you got 19 and max is 21
unless you lowered it yourself

[eternal moth]

Alright, I need to figure out where those last 2 points are coming from

Anyone able to identify where I might be missing 2 points of hit for CVs?

[storm heron]

good thing I don't have bulin nor zuihou

[shell willow]

you can check in tech tab cant u

[whole crypt]

so these two

[eternal moth]

But they're maxed out

[fast steppe]

when running into the thing in opsi that can reveal hidden enemies or materials you always want materials right

[elder parcel]

maybe zuihou? she was the last added into the game from the ones in your screenshot

[whole crypt]

then you might be missing something from not 120 bonuses

[boreal wagon]

the ships you have marked of are all of the ones that give hit so you either adjusted it or you marked it off wrong (or the above)

avp, albion and centaur give hit on attain (the latter 2 being +2)

[elder parcel]

none faction gives CV hit from leveling, and these are the only ones to give hit through acquisition

[eternal moth]

There we go, I'm missing Albion. Weird that it's not showing up on the fleet tech tracker

[fast steppe]

assuming it's materials then

[wind hazel]

probably this

[eternal moth]

Oh, it's on obtain, ok. Thanks all

[rare wyvern]

Can Eld be replace by Sirius/Mog for the damage buff ? Or is her role really to be tanking ?

[eternal moth]

Tank and slow

Otherwise you'd have to go Imp instead of Haku

[whole crypt]

Implacable is still more reliable though

[rare wyvern]

Sounds like a plan, does she hit the vanguard hard ?

[eternal moth]

Not particularly

[wet badge]

Should i get implac or nyak

To me it seems like i need something like soyuz to make the most of nyak

[tropic tusk]

Doesn't hornet have retrofit or did I remember wrong?

[whole crypt]

Hornet II

[eternal moth]

Hornet 2 is a completely different ship, but that's what you might be thinking of

[tropic tusk]

Oh that's a 2

[atomic abyss]

both
they have different team comps
you do not need soyuz to make the most of nakh

[wet badge]

Oki

[eternal moth]

Albion... Stupid sexy elf that refused to show up for her event...

[raven canyon]

good lord grinding for Z52's dupe is so painful

id need 15k points alone to just get 100 of her vouchers

[wet badge]

Do the daily minigame thing

Gives like 75 total

[raven canyon]

ye am doin it

[wet badge]

Sp and other daily missions make the grind much less painful

[raven canyon]

still takes awhile though

[wet badge]

Got her and her dupe at like 40k

(Much faster if u do the ship challenge thingies)

[bold cove]

Why rush? The event last till 1/1/2025

[raven canyon]

i ned it

[strange sphinx]

[tropic tusk]

u can always swipe if ur in rush but not really recommend it

[raven canyon]

im broke

[strange sphinx]

patience is a virtue, just like when you can't get your gacha

[tropic tusk]

then u cant really rush

[hollow gust]

u dont need her, not to mention she wont be usable till max skilled anyway

grinding levels dont need mlb

[tropic tusk]

and mlb

[bold cove]

Well yeah, there always a way to archive thing faster, make a secon fleet, put 12 ships in dorm

[tropic tusk]

[bold cove]

Swipe to buy oils and sortie, alot

[strange sphinx]

Ultra Coin farming

[tropic tusk]

that is actually a good idea i never thought of that lol

i just oath 3 unicorn cause i love unicorn but now ur telling me they can be useful

[elfin hollow]

is there a site that says which gear is ideal for which ship? I havent geares any of my ships and I have some stuff lying around so I though maybe I should equip some but Idk who to give what

[eternal moth]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home Make sure to read the descriptions, they aren't usually listed best to worst

[atomic abyss]

it is outdated tho

[elfin hollow]

ah ok. Too bad. I just got the gear from the event shop is it intended to he used on someone in particular? Also I have a lot of gear boxes lying around should I open or save them up?

[atomic abyss]

it is the best torp in the game basically

so put it on your best torp nuker (ibuki, unzen, etc)

[tropic tusk]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/舰船图鉴 there is a chinese one not in order also

[fast steppe]

are purple seafangs safe to scrap

[elfin hollow]

thanks guys appreciate the help!!

[fast steppe]

also are there any purple aa guns worth keeping in later game

[cobalt rapids]

nop

[tropic tusk]

but are u at that point yet

[fast steppe]

i have 13 gold quad bofors

[muted mason]

For a NP main fleet, would Soyuz, Chkalov and Nakimov work?

[jaunty vault]

it would work

[hollow gust]

for campaign sure

[proven mist]

Which theme gives the best comfort for coin value? I need to buy a theme for my dorm, have 3k coins

[hollow gust]

just buy the ones you like

[storm heron]

or check them 1 by 1

[jaunty vault]

i dont think anyone has mathed that out yet

[proven mist]

Oh.. how is the comfort calculated though

[jaunty vault]

my advice is to buy the event limited theme

[proven mist]

Ohhkk

[storm heron]

just buy the ones you like

[eager mulch]

[hollow gust]

cause its a waste of time to calculate, optimized vs non optimized is like a few % at most. Comfort only cares about the highest comfort furniture

[remote quarry]

Pretty sure the decor token cost is equalized to the comfort, so it really does not matter.

[hollow gust]

yes and no

[storm heron]

nah I had 1060 coins and got 41 happiness when the rerun came

meanwhile there's 2980 and only 16

[hollow gust]

there are some sets that give slightly more . since they have higher value furniture

[strange sphinx]

[remote quarry]

Of course, ai just buy everything these days. I don't think my comfort can get much higher, and I have like 15k tokens

[strange sphinx]

390+ comfort

[elfin hollow]

can I open the Tech Packs as an early game player or should I wait

[storm heron]

upcraft to purple, then open all

[hollow gust]

open them, they are useless later on, make sure to craft to purple

[elfin hollow]

thank you!

[elfin hollow]

i cant craft gold ones right

[jaunty vault]

yea

[strange sphinx]

[hollow gust]

thats very low comfort if you bought everything

the f2p limit is like 450-460

[remote quarry]

These days I do. I missed 2.5 years of the game though, getting my masters

[strange sphinx]

someone touched the grass

[tropic tusk]

its ok getting master = earn more money later on = spend more on this game ez

[tough shuttle]

Yo guys, quick question, what do I do with copies of blue/white ships? I am early in game but my dock is pretty full now

[cobalt rapids]

use white for enhance and retire the blue if ure done mlb-ing the original

[remote quarry]

Company paid for it so I could get promoted to Assistant VP, so I kind of had to.

[tough shuttle]

Well I dont even have a single ship in my main fleet MLB

[cobalt rapids]

then ignore the mlb part
white and blues are generally easy to get back but u can check wiki if u want for exceptions

[tough shuttle]

So you say retire all blue who are not hard to get?
Also do you have a link to that post on wiki pls?

[stark quiver]

you can look at the current map youre farming, cuz a lot of blues there, what he means are the farmable blue ships

[cobalt rapids]

yea, also its not rly a post on wiki meant look up each individual ship

[sinful escarp]

since you are new i will say this just in case: use the gems you get for clearing campaign on 3 dorm slots, 2nd floor dorm, the rest on dock space

[terse nova]

the only way to play azur lane on pc is to use a emulator?

[tough shuttle]

Yes sir, read all the guides

[errant fog]

Who's a better mobber for Opsi, NJ or Ulrich?

[tough shuttle]

Also I just got a Type 91 AP Shell, is that worth putting on Pensylvania or she does no damage at this point anyway?

And coindicentally - I am broke as hell, can I sell all blu/white guns, planes, torpedoes and such?

[novel solstice]

f2p can hit at least 475, since that's what I'm at and I've never spent gems on it. That may require event furniture tho.

[wind hazel]

put it on her

[tough shuttle]

And is this safe or are some important to keep, I remember some guide said that the control wheel is blue but strong

[ivory pawn]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[ivory pawn]

Check out the third link.

Also you can scrap all whites.

[tough shuttle]

What is "or one of the gear lab materials."

[hot lion]

Can you not use Bulins if they have leveled up?

[wind hazel]

some blue gear are required to be crafted into some gear lab exclusive gear

[hot lion]

Why cant i use the first one? wtf

[ivory pawn]

Click one of the buttons top right on the second screen.

[wind hazel]

like the HE50b for example, it's required for ju87

[hot lion]

Nvm im blind. Ty

[tough shuttle]

lol

[tough shuttle]

And how can I tell what is like that and what is not

[hushed sorrel]

wasnt there a symbol in the depot? i am not logged in just try to remeber

[wind hazel]

you can cross check them here https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Gear_Lab but the list of useful ones are really small in numbers

gimme few mins, in sortie

or you can open a thread and screenshot your gear

i'll sort them out for you. let me be the garbage man

[slender turtle]

How is the damage on z52 looking? Ik she is a really good AA and support. Just curious about her personal dmg

[bold stream]

Hello all. Blue 76mm or gold 100mm for z52?

[tough shuttle]

I think I added you to the thread? I hope

[wind hazel]

ye

[slender turtle]

Is it worth leveling up z1 to help buff z52?

[eager mulch]

no

[keen sable]

when you scrap it it says what it can be upgraded to...consider not scrapping anything that upgrades unless you have multiples until you know better

anyways just shove it on a historical ship is what i do

[sweet delta]

What number and strength of heals do you assume? 11% difference looks off by 100%

[mellow mountain]

how are the points for EX mode calculated? Speed at which you take the boss out?

[sweet delta]

Time to kill and fleet power

[atomic abyss]

how fast you clear and how low your fleet power is

[mellow mountain]

oh okay, I cleared it with 1 CV and 1 CL and had lower point than 3 CV 1 CL and I was very confused

[sweet delta]

So if you want a score of like 400 , kill the boss on the last second using a fleet full of +13 rainbow gear like Z flags and oxytorps

[stark quiver]

master dodger

[mellow mountain]

I really like the part with Hipper since I am a story reader nerd and itt ties into the plot...

[tough shuttle]

From what I understand from https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Anti-Air_Guns I want to equip 1 high range AA, one fast AA and 1 high dmg AA?

[sweet delta]

If you're a new player, equip all of your gold AA guns

[tough shuttle]

I have one of those heh

[sweet delta]

The short answer is
For main fleet ships, STAAG >= gear lab twin 134 > hazemeyer.
For the ship in the fleet with the strongest AA gun slot, your highest damage good AA gun.
For everyone else, good AA gun.

[tough shuttle]

Strongest slot = the % next to it? And thanks

[sweet delta]

Quick estimate is the % multiplied by the ship's AA stat after skills

[tough shuttle]

Ahhh. Does that work the same for planes n other stuff?

[mellow cape]

How do people get those dorms with 500 comfort?

[crimson glacier]

buy everything for years

[inland shoal]

Play since ancient times

[crimson glacier]

also probably use some gems idk

[mellow cape]

Damnnn that sucks lol

[crimson glacier]

it makes like, insanely tiny difference

[bold cove]

i doesnt need to finish hull construction 1 and 2 if i dont have enough blue prints?

[inland shoal]

Not rly, comfort makes kind of no difference at that point

[mellow cape]

True true, just sucks in terms of not being able to achieve it if you don't want to iap

[mellow cape]

Yeah I'm at 82%

[crimson glacier]

i think its around like 495 when it turns to 3

definitely before 500

[mellow cape]

thank you for the answer

[white agate]

just buy dorm decorations for your happiness(sets are the comfiest since no need to do anything they are already built)

[tough shuttle]

Man some of these techs are just insane lol.

Investment level "collection" means having them is enough or max level 0LB?

[atomic abyss]

having them

[tough shuttle]

ok coolio

Okay so it seems like I am somewhat regarded - Can someone riddle me the research system? From https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research I got the gist of it but after setting focus to PR5 I can't finish a single project cuz they are so expensive 🤣

[atomic abyss]

what chapter are you at campaign wise?

[tough shuttle]

I can't enter 6-1 cuz low commander level

[atomic abyss]

do only the free researches and those that cause upgrade plates
avoid coin ones for now

[rapid grail]

12-4, 13-1 spam. 12-4 is the easier one but do that a lot to get your account up and running for progression. From raising ships, gear to research and gear lab/PR stuff. you'll need a lot of coins

[atomic abyss]

you arent gonna make any notable progress till you get till w12

[rapid grail]

for now, focus on your first and/or second fleets until you reach w9 and w12

[tough shuttle]

Yeah but after focusing PR5 they area ll coin/cube, is there a better focus for free ones?

[atomic abyss]

that's not how it works

ALL series have coin, cube, free ones etc

the series only indicates what ships and gear you get blueprints for

[tough shuttle]

Ah so just unlucky? And should I focus lower PR cuz im newbie or PR5 cuz the grind is long?

[atomic abyss]

if you ask me, 4

[tough shuttle]

and why

[atomic abyss]

best ships and gear

the grind is long regardless tho

[wanton dawn]

I have a selector and in it I do not have formidable Zara and u101, I shld pick formidable right?

[atomic abyss]

what i would recommend is set your focus to 4, and strive to get friederich de grosse and anchorage first

[atomic abyss]

refer to the pins

[languid reef]

need dock space but won't use gems; any way to figure out the least practical ships in the game? (absolutely no benefits to keeping, collabs excluded)

[wanton dawn]

I’m not sure if I’m missing smth but I’m playing in tw server and my invitation is in the Guam event which I can’t find in the pins

[atomic abyss]

oh

just save it then

formi isnt good, neither is zara, and neither is 101

[wanton dawn]

Then maybe I’ll just pick whoever I like the most then

Or save it until I pulled the other two

Tysm🙏

[atomic abyss]

no easy way

if for some bizarre reason you're doing this, just get rid of the commons, rares and elites you can farm back easily

[languid reef]

k

[elfin hollow]

Whats rhe difference with persus and unicorn?

[crimson glacier]

unicorn is good always

perseus prefers short battles

[atomic abyss]

unicorn retro is the outright better healer in 99% of cases

[crimson glacier]

and falls off massively the longer the fight lasts

[atomic abyss]

not that percy is bad

unicorn is just better

[elfin hollow]

Whats the meta submarine fleet rn?

[atomic abyss]

flasher archerfish albacore

[silver fjord]

Are the rewards in arena worth it to climb

[elfin hollow]

Sadly i only got archerfish but I only have one meta ss and a lot of german subs

[atomic abyss]

81 96 37 then

[atomic abyss]

it is worth doing pvp for the merit
it isnt worth to push for high rank

[ivory pawn]

It's basically more gold bullin income for most. Plus the occasional cube. I wouldn't stress too much about reaching the top, but it's worth to spend your exercises as much as possible.

[silver fjord]

How many merits do u get if u win vs loose?

[atomic abyss]

you shouldnt be losing

you can reset battles infinitely

assuming you quit in time

so if you cant win, just fight someone else you can win

[silver fjord]

So am I the only one who uses it to gain Exp?

[atomic abyss]

pvp has no exp

[ivory pawn]

How many merits you get is based on , you can get up to 80 per battle without much difficulty. You get half as many merits if you lose.

[atomic abyss]

your ships do not gain exp from pvp

[ivory pawn]

They do Ender. It just shows +0 if they're 120.

Not sure if that means they don't get the extra exp at 120 or not tho.
They get 0 exp if maxed, but if not maxed they can still get some exp.

[silver fjord]

Wait what.

[atomic abyss]

pvp exp gain is about as bad as opsi

basically non existent

you should be using your best ships for pvp to begin with

[silver fjord]

Ah OK so better to win. Idk anything. Are just slapping ur ships fine

[atomic abyss]

check the pins in #pvp

for good pvp comps

[brazen spruce]

Hello. I joined this server today and was hoping if someone can help me so i can prepare myself for chapter 15

[ornate bronze]

Any of these way better than the others?

[ivory pawn]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[ivory pawn]

Until the vets show up again, maybe check out the link above.

[hollow gust]

The only bad one is the 4th gun from the left , rest depends on what you need

[rapid grail]

doable with good gear and ships, let us see what you got in dock atm

[stark quiver]

how many battles does it take while being exhausted for a ship to become 0 affinity

[brazen spruce]

I think i will stick to the link Zenima sent me but since you are asking i can do that

[rapid grail]

about 10 12-1/4 runs, no books used

[stark quiver]

thx

[brazen spruce]

not all the ships but yeah

[rapid grail]

oh that was from 119 morale to near 0 morale, my bad @stark quiver

[stark quiver]

affinity

[glass quest]

Does anyone have a decent loadout for Fritz Rumey?

[jaunty vault]

#gameplay-help message

[scenic mesa]

Hello which one should I max out first Rumey or Amagi?

[vapid grotto]

Hey do i need to use meta or can i just use characters that i like?

[stark quiver]

for hard stuff like arbiters and chapter 14+ youd wnana use meta,
if yore just farming event n whatnot you can use what you like

[vapid grotto]

Can i use this

[still merlin]

How well does rumey and z52 compare to other ur carriers/destroyers

[stark quiver]

youre missing limit break levels on all of them
and depends what youre gonna use it for

[vapid grotto]

Just story, like continue 6.3. Further

Well i will limit break when i can

[stark quiver]

i mean for early story youd wanna use a fleet using
bb,cv,unicorn,portland,helena,your starter ship

[ivory pawn]

Main issue you'll probably run into is how slow the UR Bulin income is.

[vapid grotto]

I use this for bow but i like the other ships more

[stark quiver]

this fleet is good yes
but the ships you like dont have limit break levels, which severely hinders their performance

[vapid grotto]

I could limit break all but urs

[robust onyx]

Is your unicorn max retrofit?

[vapid grotto]

No

[white agate]

her unicorn is still in plush form, i think that changes when retro?

[hollow gust]

retrofit your unicorn, mlb your ships, and level them up, that fleet is more then capable of anything below w12

[stoic basalt]

anyone got tips for ex hard mode? the boss is so hard, it basically deletes my fleet instantly

[vapid grotto]

I know but i like the other ships ,i just use unicorn abd others becouse idk how to compose fleets

[rapid grail]

good enough, you can equip the two fleets needed to clear w15, would recommend raising another UR BB for the mob/boss fleet
also raise Rumey, she's the best in the Support CV/L fleet now, 8 fighter planes 👀 better than her fellow UR/DRs Implac, Nakhimov (6 fighters) and Yorktown 2 (5 fighters)
was late because stuff happens...

[white agate]

are you using level 125?

[robust onyx]

Unicorn is top of healers

[stoic basalt]

yea

[white agate]

weird, i when i finish the run i am gonna check what i used👍

[hollow gust]

Hard Mode EX is how it was originally designed, you honestly just have to dodge better

[stark quiver]

dodge better
and dont auto

[white agate]

i used random bs go; fdg,vanguard,alsace and sandy,helena and agir non mlb

and did it fine, also i think only bb gears were 13 on alsace and vanguard

so probably it was either auto or maybe wrong gear usage?

oh, meowficer at lvl 30 tho

[stoic basalt]

guess gotta dodge better

[stark quiver]

just kill it with one strike

[stoic basalt]

if I had that kind of firepower I wouldn't be here to begin with, but yeah

[hexed urchin]

is there any videos of what sirius' xmas sofa looks like?

[cobalt rapids]

use ur best anti heavy fleet but if u cannot one strike it why not play easy diff

[stoic basalt]

I dodged better and I cleared it

[stark quiver]

does kirov's debuff last after she dies

[scenic mesa]

Asking again who to MLB first? Rumey or Amagi?

[rough vale]

Viable fleet to sweep event D3 safe?

Mob: All the dragon empery DDG's (Main), Great Wall of China (Vanguard)

Boss: Huan Chang, Hwah Jah, Chen Hai, Chi An, Hai Chi, Hai Tien

[little tree]

Amagi CV

[misty tree]

Amagi CV

[stark quiver]

just try it
i mean if geared properly prolly

[hollow quartz]

Does admiral hipper meta give iron blood tech points when fully limit broken?

Thank

[strange sphinx]

What Amagi cv, Shinano, and haku Airplanes for that?

also Timing

[hollow gust]

D3 is piss easy, you can run DDG(main) and Yatsen DDG and that should clear both mob and boss

[eternal moth]

I used this https://mrlar.dev/s/55b1a76d65c2993cc1e60a76682a4c46f53d1c7f

[brazen spruce]

nice thanks

[cobalt rapids]

standard heavy with jiintsu helena jda vanguard

[strange sphinx]

who is gonna use Helldiver db? I only hae 2 Tenrai

[cobalt rapids]

shinano

[stark quiver]

jint,lena and jda is standard?

[cobalt rapids]

or amagi can take la9 if u got one +13

[strange sphinx]

yeah la9....

[tawny ermine]

What I put on her

[eternal moth]

It depends on what you're fighting and what you want to use her for

[tawny ermine]

Bosses

[strange sphinx]

.... I Have Kaza all this time...

[tawny ermine]

This is what I put on her I’m gonna upgrade obviously

[strange sphinx]

not mlb

also not flapjack.. does Hellcat poverty good

[tawny ermine]

I need 1 more bikini for mlb and I also don’t have any irl planes so yeah

[hollow gust]

Why use purple hellcat, you have like a whole row of fighters

[worldly pewter]

even the seafang works

[runic cobalt]

Put twin 40mm bofors on AA if u have it

[lunar epoch]

where to find the first item?

[eternal moth]

That should be a CL gun, not an AA

[runic cobalt]

Academy then Medals

[tawny ermine]

Purple but I do have it

[runic cobalt]

Not that one

[tawny ermine]

Huh?

[eternal moth]

You want a CL gun with 45 FP there, not an AA gun. Like a twin 155

[hollow gust]

also CL gun

[runic cobalt]

Oh is it CL gun? mb

[tawny ermine]

Called a twin 40mm bofers yet it’s not the right one????

[strange sphinx]

well it is not still mlb so CL gun still not an option

[eager mulch]

[strange sphinx]

[eternal moth]

She doesn't get it right away? Huh, ok

[eager mulch]

There are a lot of twin 40mm bofors

[runic cobalt]

The STAAG one

[tawny ermine]

Well no I don’t have it

[strange sphinx]

oh nvm EN moment only planes will swap

[runic cobalt]

It's pretty easy to get by just doing research

[strange sphinx]

MLB will just give her flex slot for 2nd slot

[still merlin]

How well does rumey and z52 compare to other ur carriers/destroyers

[stark quiver]

theyre good

[strange sphinx]

[viscid swift]

Twin refers to the number of barrels, 40mm refers to the caliber of the gun and Bofors is the manufacturer

[eternal moth]

Put the triple 155 on her instead of AA

[tawny ermine]

Ok

[viscid swift]

As you can imagine there are a lot of guns that are twin 40mm bofors

[hollow gust]

just copy this.....

[strange sphinx]

hmm Cl gun for fritz 155 kai good?

[viscid swift]

To be determined

[tawny ermine]

Copied just gotta get gold to upgrade

[stone sluice]

Does the OPS 3% damage boost count towards the Taihou meta fight?

Why people say Zuihou is good when using DDs?

[strange sphinx]

[strange sphinx]

what World are you

[hollow gust]

no, and its cause her healing is based off her hp

[viscid swift]

No and look at the wording of her skill and look at her HP pool compared to that of DDs

[strange sphinx]

10700 and 64k,Goose and Hamaal, what's level is this

[viscid swift]

How the tf should we know

There are a number of things that can affect the soft cap other than commander level

[hollow gust]

its like half a dozen factors

[eternal moth]

Canteen and market level, amount of guild tech purchased, commander level

[strange sphinx]

oh well

[tawny ermine]

12-4

So a couple runs I’ll be good

[vast sparrow]

Is the in-game task for the gachapon still not out?

[stark quiver]

it is out

[vast sparrow]

But where

[runic cobalt]

Is there a better option than f4v pirate squad on kearsage?

[stark quiver]

events tab, scroll all the way down

[stark quiver]

flapjacks, hvar cats, la9s

[runic cobalt]

Replacement for la9? not own any atm

[stark quiver]

hvar hellcat
well for what armor enemies

[runic cobalt]

All in general

Ik hvar cat is for medium and light but for heavy?

[weary gust]

There is no "in general":

[hollow gust]

Well a LA-9 can be used in general for all armor types

[stark quiver]

just flapjack

[hollow gust]

This is what LA-9 replaced

Not worth maxing though, just wait for LA-9 eventually

[stark quiver]

general content ez, just run flapjack

[slow fox]

I ahte discord

[slow fox]

Twin 100 gets 15% heals.

From 1 shot per second, FLOOR(87/6) = 14 --> 14% heal

Then, from 1/6 of 3 heals for 2%, 1/6 * 3 * 0.02 = 0.01 --> 1% heal

gold pewpew gets 25% heals.

From 1 shot per 0.6 second, FLOOR(87/0.6/6) = 24 --> 24% heal

Then, from 1/6 of 3 heals for 2%, 1/6 * 3 * 0.02 = 0.01 --> 1% heal

[runic cobalt]

That's iirc core shop or solo gear lab?

[hollow gust]

thats crafting

[runic cobalt]

Oh yeah it's gear lab ty

[grizzled sundial]

Would 2 flapjack work for every day Rumey that tackle a various type of battle instead of 2 rocket planes ?

[ivory pawn]

I believe Flapjack/Wyvern is the everyday recommendation. Double flap is probably great for w15 fleet.

[eternal moth]

I'd rather use fighter and either parallel TB or DB

[rapid grail]

Let's say my CVs launch at 21.5s against Taihou META. By the 3rd airstrikes (ie 64.5s), are they still going to benefit from Helena's scan?

[eternal moth]

They should

[stark quiver]

yea

[eternal moth]

Her debuff lasts 10 seconds

[rapid grail]

Oh. was under the impression that it lasts at 5s

[eternal moth]

If you read the skill, it (usually) explains the skill

[stark quiver]

if it lasted 5s then you wont benefit from it cuz torp travel time is a thing
but thankfully, its 10 lol

[final flint]

Is fumo, nelson's pennant or black shell better on BBs for bosses when I dont want the quickload from hpfcr

[forest palm]

FuMO is useless to BBs, Nelson's Pennant has some function, Black Shell will generally be better though you will end up using an HSFCR in its stead

[earnest crag]

Are these bulin skins coming back anytime soon?

[forest palm]

likely not

[stark quiver]

april fools, prolly limited

[earnest crag]

Damn, so I guess I saved up these 2 bulins for nothing 😢

[sweet delta]

Single 113 is reasonably per 0.7s and almost impossible per 0.6s

[eternal moth]

You know that once you have the skin you can apply it to any copy of that ship, right?

[earnest crag]

I know, but just I only locked those two just for skin collection purposes still

[stark quiver]

dont worry i dont have the purp bulin skin too
sadly

[earnest crag]

Anyways, how do I level up fast? (Only rank 52 rn)

[cobalt rapids]

grind event

[fast steppe]

why aren't wyverns recommended to +13? is it because they have no boss utility?

[earnest crag]

What grind event though?

[forest palm]

on the right track, but for the sheer amount of plates required, there's just a lot of other things that are more important

[earnest crag]

Oh okay thanks!

[slow fox]

With 0.7s reload instead of 0.6, 25% goes down to 21% heals

[fast steppe]

ic

tenrai it is then

[cobalt rapids]

pretty much, since bossing content is generally harder excluding the last campaign stage
and theres more "bossing" content therefore bossing planes are more usefull

[cobalt rapids]

tenrai isnt a high prio for planes either

[forest palm]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[forest palm]

this exists btw....

[cobalt rapids]

bf109 shouldnt be recommended for +13 because la-9 exists now
tenrai is lower priority than a set of converging for the same reasoning as before for wyvern

[fast steppe]

dont have either of the top 2 planes

so ig just save or ryusei/ju11

[cobalt rapids]

yea

altho skyraider is comming up in 1 week

[eternal moth]

Well, 2

[cobalt rapids]

ah yea

[eternal moth]

Next event starts the 9th, not the 2nd

[versed forum]

Is washing machine aux good for DD? Or just pick toolkit

[eternal moth]

HP for 99% of DDs

[hollow gust]

Also use a better gun for Laffey

[eternal moth]

Yeah, Laffey's a gun-based ship, she needs a good gun.

[versed forum]

Should I buy action report aux from core shop, is it worth it

Already bought 2 shells

[eternal moth]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[hallow loom]

is the gold bb gun from event any good?

from D3*

[stiff oracle]

I can only clear until D1 event. Should i farm c3 or d1?

[kind slate]

IIRC do d1 cuz of oil cap

[soft raft]

Slightly more expensive version of the IJN Twin 410 for roughly the same-ish performance

[low juniper]

How do I gear Momo Deviluke

Is she the one that uses the moon shaped aux from the event

[elfin hollow]

lala uses the moon shaped aux

[low juniper]

Which one does Momo use

[elfin hollow]

the star shaped shuriken one

[low juniper]

Huh

What does it look like

I don't see a star shaped shuriken in my inventory even though I got everything

[low juniper]

Wait what how come I don't have that

I swear I had it

[elfin hollow]

wait are u talking about augments or auxilary

[low juniper]

Aux

[elfin hollow]

oh this one is her aug

[low juniper]

Which is her aux

[elfin hollow]

there’s no specific aux

[low juniper]

All of them had a little aux though

[soft raft]

those are just generic collab auxes

[low juniper]

Yeah the Sales Boosta-Bot thing

Generic?

[elfin hollow]

they're not that good

[soft raft]

like as in they dont specifically need to go on X or Y Character

[low juniper]

Oh

[elfin hollow]

only the hp ones are okay

[eternal moth]

The last event doesn't have any aux/character combos

[eager mulch]

[little tree]

[worn quest]

uhhh how can i change my fleet in operation siren, i kinda ignored this part of the game

[dreamy blade]

Go to a port, hit the order button top right, fleet redeployment

[soft raft]

Blue Port -> Order -> Fleet formation

[stark quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-gif-25770903

[worn quest]

i domt have the option to use fleet deployment, do i rest and regroup first?

[stark quiver]

are you at a blue port?

[worn quest]

yeah i believe so

[late flame]

what is the name of the port you are at

[soft raft]

If it aint any of these 4, it's not a blue port

[sharp socket]

you can tell its a blue port because its color is blue and not red

[late flame]

in before color blind

[worn quest]

im in west contitental shelf D?

nvm i fat fingered

[sharp socket]

if colour blind it appears greenish

[worn quest]

is morale used in Operation siren

[stark quiver]

no

[pale wing]

Guys, how's Formidable?

[stark quiver]

shes ok
not good

[soft raft]

Very bad at her job of being a freeze utility

[sweet delta]

The forward base is a blue port

[little tree]

after some testing Dev 29 Haku is very Usable in Arbiter

[forest palm]

that damage is so...underwhelming...

like just grab Enterprise at that point

[little tree]

~~ Hard to do more Unless Agir Slow is a good option~~

[remote quarry]

Maybe try Lala Vaccuum

[forest palm]

Agir slow is laughably unreliable

[little tree]

She is 115 atm almost usable in Harbiter

[stark quiver]

eld
oh wait eld is there

[hollow gust]

You could just use kazegumo instead of Eldridge and use a actual slow

[inland shoal]

@little tree

[hollow gust]

Hell even ark Royal would be better with a kazegumo

[inland shoal]

Sry dropped my phone

[storm heron]

[little tree]

I don't have ethier

In try cooking so more with manual agir

[hollow gust]

Agir slow is literally worse

[little tree]

~~ Gotta use vanguard slows mabeye lala eldrich ancrage does bettee ~~

[hollow gust]

[marble fiber]

[hollow gust]

You need the damage amp or better carriers , like taz isn’t wrong, Enty would be better that this point

[raven canyon]

The shops in my OS have T3 ordnance and a UR design plan but i only got enough currency for like one of them do you guys know which i should buy

[stark quiver]

all of them
just do more opsi

did you do strongholds?

[raven canyon]

theres only 5 hours left though

i dont think i have that unlocked

[stark quiver]

UR design plan then

[raven canyon]

alright

thanks

[remote quarry]

5 hours? opSi still has 7 days

[raven canyon]

what do T3 ordnance testing report do anyway

[storm heron]

old shop probably

[raven canyon]

ye

[storm heron]

they have the same uses as the design

[remote quarry]

needed for certain UR gears

[raven canyon]

ic

oh i can use it to craft the twin 457

[stark quiver]

id take a UR plane design to make wyverns if you havent

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[worn quest]

what characters are good enough to raise to lvl 125?

[storm heron]

good characters

[worn quest]

like? are the characters on the outdated tierlist good enough?

[storm heron]

where do i even start the list...

[worn quest]

or is it a case by case and i ask everytime i think i got someone good

[wary hawk]

Unicorn

[storm heron]

I think this is better

[worn quest]

cuz i mainly have the recomended beginner ships like unicorn and i wanted to know if raising them to lvl 125 is worth cuz they are free

[remote quarry]

Unicorn is worth it

[stark quiver]

unicorn yes
helena yes
everyone else in the beginner fleet no

most URs yes
dont 125 warspite

and everything else depends what you have

[storm heron]

enterprise yes, UvH no, shinano yes, hood no,

[worn quest]

what about the two new Urs

[hollow gust]

Well ofc they are worth

[storm heron]

yes

[worn quest]

ok thx

i also heard Yorktown ii is coming soon is she worth?

[hollow gust]

Very , so you should be saving cubes now

[storm heron]

worth getting yes

[worn quest]

is there faster ways of getting gold retrofits other than the one time mission

[stark quiver]

hard mode

[worn quest]

thats what i was referring to yes, the mission u complete on hardmode

[stark quiver]

do more hard mode

[storm heron]

yes there is, example is medal shop, you can get 4 each instantly, but downside is extremely expensive
I suggest just wait for rng in hard mode

[soft raft]

make sure you're doing higher than W3 Hard as well
Cuz SR prints dont drop W3 and below

[pseudo saffron]

Is UvH good in boss fleet?

[elfin hollow]

How long does it take for a ship to go into the regular banners? 3 years?

[soft raft]

Intial run -> Rerun ~2 years later -> WA/Perma ~1 year later

[stark quiver]

yes shes good
there are probably better options tho

[hollow gust]

Shes good but I won’t invest into her if you are new

[elfin hollow]

Ok good then lil cheshire should be available in a few more months give or take

[worn quest]

why isnt the tierlist updated? what is the last ur ship that was added and what kinds of ships have been added since then?

[storm heron]

whose tier list was that again?

[worn quest]

En Community

[late flame]

join their discord and bug em about it there

[soft raft]

It hasnt been updated since August
the people who run ECTL are currently too busy with IRL stuff to update it

[worn quest]

ah

so is there a way to know if a ship is worth pulling for other than asking here or is it always advised to pull for new ships

[soft raft]

Gacha UR always worth it

for typical SR Events, varies a good bit depending on how good the ships are

[worn quest]

Im new so the current banner is my first banner, do UR gachas release frequently?

[soft raft]

And ngl even if the Tierlist people were back on top of updating the list, they probably wouldnt update it until the later half of a event's runtime

[soft raft]

4 times per year (This is not counting reruns)
Feb, May (Also CN Anniv), Sept (Also JP Anniv), and Dec

[storm heron]

yeah if you are experienced enough there's generally a way, which is to compare to existing ships. Otherwise can't go wrong with asking

[late flame]

or just hoard if nothing on banner interests you

[storm heron]

:hoardbugyippee:

[worn quest]

how many Ur ships have been added since the En community tierlist been last updated?

[viscid swift]

3

[storm heron]

4

[worn quest]

does those 4 include the 2 we have now?

[soft raft]

Amagi CV (Gacha)
Fritz Rumey (Gacha) and Z52 (Event shop)
Eldridge Retrofit

[pale shell]

Is the last part of an shan and Chang chun ddg retro where she turns into a main fleet worth it? Can she change it back to vanguard mode?

[viscid swift]

no, yes

[late flame]

not worth changing ddg to mainfleet

[soft raft]

it's a toggle
and no it isnt worth it basically 99.99999999999% of the time

[pale shell]

Does she shoot missiles when she's in main fleet

And why also is it not worth it and it's better to stay as dd?

[storm heron]

think about bb salvo missle

[soft raft]

yes but Main fleet mode doesnt do enough to be competitive against typical backliner options

Namely still being squishy

[viscid swift]

she goes from a pretty strong vanguard to a mediocre main fleet

[pale shell]

naruhodo

[late flame]

i only did it out of curiosity to level a full fleet of chinese ships for fun

[pale shell]

But you can toggle it back to vanguard right

[soft raft]

yes
we already said it's a toggle

[storm heron]

there isn't a chinese pr backline yet right?

[pale shell]

[soft raft]

nop
and even then there's better options for chinese backline

[little tree]

I don't have a gun that syncs with musahsi till next month she still the best one to run in my bb boss fleet.

[flat ruin]

I got a 4:35 hr building time, that is certainly not the new ur right?

aifht thanks

[forest palm]

you can't make the Triple 410?

[stark quiver]

pray its aquila

[little tree]

Short top secret

[mellow cape]

Maxed MLB Musashi but no gun 🥺

Could always do PR7 research for her daisen gun

[little tree]

~~ i have the he and triple 460 but not one that's syncs

[south sequoia]

whos crossfleet is better? musashi or alsace

[little tree]

Should I run her triple 460 or use Nelson instead?

[sinful escarp]

for w15 boss who is a good ship to put with: soyuz,nakhimov, york2, guam, and sandy?

[viscid swift]

Eldridge

[storm heron]

you can run hpfcr with triple 460 to get 3 salvo I think

[sinful escarp]

hmmm its still a while before i can get eldridge leveled so who else?

[storm heron]

jeanne d'arc

[brave trail]

between mogador, z52 and fritz
which one i should max limit break in order like in general

[late flame]

depends on who (else in terms of UR) you have, how many bulins and who you like

[plain saffron]

fritxz if all same LB right now

[sinful escarp]

okay then
what gun do i put on soyuz?

[jade heart]

that probably depends on who else you have and what enemy you're fighting

[storm heron]

twin 457

[sinful escarp]

gotcha thanks

between aquila and volga who would do better in a mob fleet with musashi and unicorn?

[viscid swift]

Aquila

[tender lotus]

When volga rerun?

[eager mulch]

never

It’ll rerun 8 months ago

[viscid swift]

she already reran

[tender lotus]

Bruh i missed her again

[eager mulch]

[opaque gate]

is it worth buying meteor shell over dock space? (pls say yes)

[rapid grail]

ig wait for wishing well next
dw about it

[viscid swift]

no

[rapid grail]

if f2p, no
if dolphin, no, go prio dockspace first before that
if whale, go ahead

[stark quiver]

what even is a meteor shell

[opaque gate]

fkk, oh no, my fingers are moving towards "exchange"

[rapid grail]

some cruise mission skin mayhaps

[opaque gate]

this one, looks cool though

[viscid swift]

my dude, just go to #al-general

[dusk niche]

What's the best way to farm gold?

[viscid swift]

farm W12

[opaque gate]

is there a way to get this skin for free?

[stark quiver]

if you like it then get it, youre just gonna be losing dock space if it matters to you

[spring bolt]

open white boxes if you are out of oil

[rapid grail]

easy way: 12-4
best way: 14-4 -> 13-4 -> 12-4

[jade heart]

15-4

[viscid swift]

14-4 is not better than 13-4

[sinful escarp]

tbh i prefer 12-4 because i can level ships there comfortably

[dusk niche]

I see, I haven't unlocked those yet ;-; But ill just farm 9-1

[eager mulch]

farm the event

[viscid swift]

Farm D3 of the event instead

[plain saffron]

9-1 is already a lot better than 8-4

[sinful escarp]

right now though you should farm event

[dusk niche]

gotcha, Im gonna try beating D3 (last time I tried i failed lmao)

i dont even have the stats to do it omg nvm i forgot

I hate being so weak

[sinful escarp]

farm the highest event stage you can then

game is a marathon not a race, you will get there dont worry

[dusk niche]

;-; thanks guys

The amount of things im trying to learn all at once in this game is nuts idk how yall did it

[stark quiver]

same process as you

i kinda just chilled in this channel, asked questions and read chats lol

[sinful escarp]

one step at a time. dont think about being very efficient especially early on. you get a lot of oil from missions

[soft raft]

The game is a marathon not a sprint

[stark quiver]

marathon for most

[eager mulch]

i learned by throwing myself into the pits of ectl, and i am no longer the same person

[late flame]

fake it till you make it

[dusk niche]

hehe thanks guys really i mean it

[fast steppe]

recommendations on stuff to craft

[sleek spade]

Should I lb Rumey first or 52? I only got 3 Purins.

I alr got a decent amount of ur ships

[eager mulch]

3 isn’t enough

[sleek spade]

So mlb 52 then?

And leave rumey for later

[stark quiver]

or wait for yk2

[sleek spade]

I have enough to mlb 52 with 3 cus there’s a dupe in shop

[spring bolt]

i would go for z52
current meta is heavy, so no rush to mlb fritz and yk2

[hollow gust]

sakura can cover med and light too

[sleek spade]

Okie ty

[jade heart]

I'm trying to build a anti-medium fleet with 3 cvs each running 2x ap rockets, but the damage is terrible
Even my anti-light bb fleet with 3x NJ guns seems to be out damaging it
Is this supposed to happen

[hollow gust]

When you have no slow or poor tech , ofc it's gonna happen

[jade heart]

rockets need slow?

[hollow gust]

Ofc it does

[jade heart]

I saw the projectile speed is way faster than torpedos so I assumed it was fine without

[plain saffron]

not fast eniugh

[floral thunder]

Is Admiral Hipper META worth it?

[hollow gust]

Wait what comp are you using that 6 rockets? Also why are your BBs using HE against medium

[wind hazel]

collection

[keen sable]

she's worth getting for free and just costs some coins to max

[floral thunder]

I have more but I don’t want to send it

[jade heart]

It was vs arbitor strength and i was running out of fleets
3x RN cvs, agir, ARA ship, Sirius

[hollow gust]

He means hipper is collection, although looking at your ships , hipper is prob an improvements

[wind hazel]

hipper META is only good for collection.

[hollow gust]

Hipper meta is a decent ship

[floral thunder]

Oh

[eager mulch]

[floral thunder]

Wait what ship is Hipper again?

[hollow gust]

You should be working on that SanFran though

[eager mulch]

Heavy cruiser

[feral ridge]

[wind hazel]

3x royal navy CV?

[floral thunder]

So would SanFran be better than Eugen?

[eager mulch]

[spring bolt]

well for his dock hipper meta is an improvement...
i mean, she is like a eugen but doubled dps so not too bad to use considering she is a event shop ship

[south sequoia]

a lot better

[hollow gust]

alot better

[floral thunder]

Omg 😭

[floral thunder]

Oh ok

[hollow gust]

You can use hipper for a 2nd fleet

[quartz jungle]

Work on Unicorn first then San Fran

[wind hazel]

i'd rather use portland and SF

[floral thunder]

Already bought all the META crystals

[keen sable]

i would not waste bulins on san fran

[hollow gust]

Hipper is a good improvement over both port and Eugen , no reason not to use her.

[jade heart]

lusty/indom/implac one of the few ships I have that can equip 2x fighters

[wind hazel]

you need portland for rookie mission, cheap, solid tank

[storm heron]

wait hipper better than port and eugen?

[keen sable]

lusty blows and sucks

[wind hazel]

and portland can be used for PR grind

[quartz jungle]

Hipper Meta yes

[jade heart]

I tried using muse version for damage and it was not enough

[wind hazel]

hipper meta offer nothing else but slightly better dps lol

[storm heron]

that's pretty good for a ship that can tank

[floral thunder]

Uhh, the Hipper META crystals were limited?

[wind hazel]

no

[storm heron]

else newbs usually don't have tank for like months

[floral thunder]

It says “unobtained”

[wind hazel]

you need hipper meta before you can buy the crystals i believe

[floral thunder]

Ohhh

[soft raft]

they'll be avaliable in the META shop after the event ends
and iirc you cant buy the crystals from event shop until you actually get her

[wind hazel]

not to mention you need meta materials to enhance her

[hollow gust]

Which you get for free from cruise pass

[wind hazel]

which you probably don't have that many

how many can you even get from cruise pass,i dont believe the amount is more than what hipper needs

[soft raft]

That's what the other 45k of the META Showdown points ladder is for

[wind hazel]

[spring bolt]

for my EN alt, enough for fp and rld, but i got 0 trp mat

[barren tapir]

opsi like exists (but yeah, if they dont wanna play opsi, definitely skip using mipper)

[wind hazel]

and what's wrong with using portland+eugen anyway, seems fine for just tanks

[storm heron]

but mipper still more tanky than eugen right

[barren tapir]

eugen

also no mipper isnt tankier than eugen iirc

[wind hazel]

what's more wrong is using those 0lb URs tbh

[barren tapir]

hipper meta is 107