gameplay-help

[barren tapir]

wait i have 6 fragments already im dumb you get 2 fragments per orll

[soft raft]

I mean it's a chinese company, they dont do christmas

[boreal wagon]

its possible its the same missions every day but given it has a similar format to the other 2 missions per day events i wouldnt say its a guarantee

[barren tapir]

so you only need 18 rolls? if it cant roll dupes. which means the ingame tasks are mostly optional...

18 rolls, 2 tasks per day on website is 14. so only need to do 4 ingame. so uh probably dont have to build ships. probably.

i hope im not wrong about this

[white agate]

i mean, i am gonna do the 3 daily build anyway so

[odd cedar]

damn i got to build musashi then z52 in hopes i clear ch15 one day

[barren tapir]

wats that

[odd cedar]

and i dont know sht about the game still 😂

[bright ginkgo]

It completely freezes my game now 🙃

[stark quiver]

Where did you even pull that image

[soft raft]

you cant even get Musahi rn lmao

[barren tapir]

[white agate]

try repair assets in setting from the loading screen

[soft raft]

Did you try force closing and relaunching the game?

[odd cedar]

i already have them, i mean like power up

[odd cedar]

kimocheese, idk if they are reliable or not

[stark quiver]

Those who know 💀

[soft raft]

He's not wrong that Musashi/Aquila/UniKai is a very strong combo, but 99.999999999% of the time he's flat out wrong or spouting bullshit

and just adding Z52 wouldnt exactly make that comp a insta win since W15 needs alot more AA than just Z52

[glossy granite]

kimocheese isnt he that guy who looks a little bit funny or what i have heard?

[sweet delta]

He's the guy who couldn't clear w15 on auto with his stacked account

[glossy granite]

I think i know him but not 100% sure, ik his dock is really cracked and maxed out everything

[odd cedar]

so uh i still dont have any understanding of fleet formations and stuff, just doing random stuff that has got me to end of ch12, just haven't finished

[glossy granite]

While im trying to finish this event stage but get cooked cuz of 2 ships keep getting destroyed lol

[white agate]

try using hedgeog, if you didn't; i think that can help?

[stark quiver]

He didn’t?

[glossy granite]

@white agate check these images

[white agate]

i think only option here till you mlb ships is laffey as tank prinz henrich and suzuki as sub tank
unicorn as flagship, howe and shinano?

[glossy granite]

mlb? max limit break?

[white agate]

yep, max limit break ships are much stronger than non mlb ships

[hollow gust]

Heinrich is literally squishier then Portland without a ironblood ship

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[white agate]

but portland is level 49 and henrich 80

[hollow gust]

Both are gonna need leveling

[glossy granite]

I have bunch of iron blood ships 🤷‍♂️

[stark quiver]

classic kimo

[glossy granite]

I have no idea how to farm for xp data packs

[granite rain]

Can anyone tell me the best ship in each PR? Not the DR ones. Sorry, pretty new

Agnostic of fleet, like just in general

[sage sluice]

Does Z52 have a recommmend setup? I figured the 113mm but what else?

[languid reef]

if i put for example duisberg in fleet 2 on d3, and never use fleet 2, can i still get the 10 ur vouchers from the mission?

[slow fox]

-# 🥺 can-can I get a review of their model?

[worldly pewter]

are u the serious

he still didn't retire yet

[last zenith]

The serious?

[hollow gust]

If you are new then you should be working by season by season, not skipping for the best ships
Pr4>5>7>6
In the meantime you can coin ships like FDG Roon Neptune Saint Louis Etc

[barren tapir]

am i missing something or wasnt this about ch13hm

[glossy granite]

How new am i in the scale of 1 to 10 lol

[rare wyvern]

Does Neptune's augment rank her as anything viable for late game content ?

[last zenith]

Hmmm ehhh

[hollow gust]

you didn't show your acc, how should I know lol

[barren tapir]

she's mid

[hollow gust]

Well it's a strong augment , but it's not good enough for her to compete against late game monsters

[glossy granite]

@hollow gust Judge from this lol

[hollow gust]

We just got a new DD that does basically everything better

[barren tapir]

very strong augment even id argue but she started off in a very very meh position so she's now decent but not great

[hidden smelt]

What's a good Frontline for a CV fleet (chapter 13)

[hollow gust]

That's a mid asf acc , you can grind higher levels in like 2 weeks

[glossy granite]

Yea lmao, thats what happens when you log in 3 times a year since 2021

And even back then idk if it was due to my horrific frontal lobe but it was so hard to find decent guides so i kinda learnt everything myself

[worldly pewter]

a tank with sandy is enough

[glossy granite]

I was around the time when 2nd anniversary live dropped, really nice lol

[little plinth]

where are these tasks located? I'm having trouble finding them

[stark quiver]

in game
the events tab scroll all the way down

[worldly pewter]

so u asked about
this formation is it good or does it need a change ?

[little plinth]

oh wow that's really hidden, ty lol

[glossy granite]

I was making it sure if it was the team he asked for, but i am open to anything

[white agate]

once brought to safe b3 ranger cassin downes were able to do all fine;
all gears at+10 no skill leveled and vanguard,musashi,alsace in the other fleet did the trick for me;ofc to bring it to safe some oil was spent(probably with some vanguard crossfleet i could have done it without wasting oil on the boss stage to bring it to safe)[vanguard skill was better than i thought]

[undone plover]

Musashi alsace is amazing x-fleet
So makes sense

Idk much about vanny x fleet tbh
Never used her

[hollow gust]

When tf did Guam become back in the day

[white agate]

been 1y already

[little tree]

Back in my day we had amagi cv

[worldly pewter]

put hood in the center and it should be what he asked for
work on their mlb and hood aug that is it imo

[glossy granite]

Ye thats what i did

[worldly pewter]

if helena is lower level than laffey put her in the middle

[glossy granite]

And then also my whole dock i posted few times

^

[worldly pewter]

u can't really do anything about ur dock now

[glossy granite]

Game is draining battery like crazy

[worldly pewter]

u have to keep drawing ships from the current event
cope for medal shop
independence in the core shop but better to get at least 1 of each bullets black and white before

[amber frost]

AL, play AL on a emulator at home and play AL sparingly on your mobile devices, most games now go rip saw rage crazy on battery, a great example is dragon ball legends.

[glossy granite]

Yea tho i dislike emulators

[worldly pewter]

limit ur fps to 30

[glossy granite]

I have used bluestacks but then i uninstalled

[amber frost]

well you have options, I personally go for an emulator for a demanding mobile game such is this. couldnt be more happy besides that off and on crashing but wtf ever.

[glossy granite]

Yea game sometimes just stops working idk why

Buttons dont work

[hollow gust]

Just turn on battery saving mode

[glossy granite]

My phone isnt horrible either, S23

[worldly pewter]

are u sure u are using the correct settings ? especially the hyper virtualization

[amber frost]

you'll miss out on blowing up and destroying lovely girls. bye

[glossy granite]

Ye i have it on

[hollow gust]

The game gives you options to limit your battery usage , no reason not to use it

[glossy granite]

Will have to go in settings once i charge my phone

[amber frost]

You put it right back on and stop complaining.

[hollow gust]

Turn on battery saver

[hollow gust]

Bluestacks is terrible , AL is horribly optimized on it

It runs like shit even with a 7800x3d and 32ram

[white agate]

i have a bit of a problem with that one; my screen goes in game booster lock screen normally to save battery, but sometimes gamebooster crashes and the game starts going at 10fps

[bright ginkgo]

can bluestacks affect the gameplay of the same account on a phone too?

[hollow gust]

I mean if you login to your acc , ofc it plays on your acc

[bright ginkgo]

shipyard breaks my game is it possible bluestacks is causing that

[glossy granite]

Also isnt San diego op if you retrofit her?

[amber frost]

try samsung galaxy s20 ultra, I am using that and not having much of a problem except for the current patch being weird with it.

[white agate]

else i think mumu works too?

[glossy granite]

s20 ultra damn

It still holding up after almost 5 years?

[hollow gust]

You can just repair asset

[amber frost]

idk never really owned one personally but emulated wise on blue stacks its pretty tight

[bright ginkgo]

ive tried repairing and logging out/in again multiple times

[worldly pewter]

do that when u want to do w15
augment is enough under that

[amber frost]

my ass wishes I had 1k for a phone like that

[glossy granite]

Oh via bluestacks lol

[bright ginkgo]

but the game just stops working once i enter shipyard

[glossy granite]

Tho they prob cost 200€ nowadays

[hollow gust]

Reinstall the game then

[amber frost]

what you lol for ? I used it after thanksgiving and it's doing good

[bright ginkgo]

oh nvm now it works on bluestacks but not phone

[amber frost]

In america its still costly. so....

[hollow gust]

Time to repair assets on phone

[glossy granite]

Not really, samsungs drop in value a lot compared to Iphones

[hollow gust]

No it's not , I can't even pay someone to use the s20

[glossy granite]

And its a phone from 2020

[spring bolt]

i can try asking them but no guarantee

[hollow gust]

Also #al-general for idle talk

[amber frost]

My local att store would throw my butt outside if I asked them for a phone like that for 200.00 with taxes figured in.

_>

[hollow gust]

Lmao bro is getting robbed by his phone store

[hidden smelt]

For boss fleet?

[hollow gust]

Also def no, Sandy can't tank boss w13

She barley tanks out mob

[mellow cape]

Lol

[hidden smelt]

For boss fleet I just put some high anti air CA and cl?

[hollow gust]

Run a normal tank

[worldly pewter]

a tank with another AA should do the boss TBH it is kinda simpol

[glossy granite]

Go to ebay and look up s20 ultra

[hollow gust]

Sandy is already overkill for w13

[glossy granite]

Also it seems that there are so many stuff i shouldnt worry about in game at my lvl

[worldly pewter]

do u have an example for a high aa ca ?

i think for the poor people there is cheshire juneau retro and isuzu retro so aa shouldn't be a big concern

[hollow gust]

That's way overthinking AA

Even Juneau solo can be enough

[torn latch]

Guam? ~~oh it's CB alright ~~

[hidden smelt]

I hardly have any btw is sirius good for the boss fleet

[hollow gust]

Post your dock in a thread

[stark quiver]

campaign boss prolly not

[neat chasm]

Team building help please,

[worldly pewter]

boss in opsi yes
campaign is not that good

[torn latch]

I believe Sirius is too squishy for late campaign map like w13 above

[hidden smelt]

How do u do thread I don't use discord enough for this

[worldly pewter]

look a little bit above

[torn latch]

If you are using mobile client

[hidden smelt]

Team building

[slow fox]

Thank. I'm interested in knowing how they do their calcs, how they account for uptimes, and if they have any ideas I'm missing, to implement those ideas if they make sense.

[spring bolt]

for now this is the only thing i have, taken from #5467's video
for z52 ehp, i think they took slash as a factor
btw, their 100 is not portland and the number is self ehp + vanguard fleet ehp contribution

[slow fox]

Just numbers, and not like, the documentation of how they do their math?

(I also don't consider slash aha)

Their numbers are raw eHP then?

[spring bolt]

that will take time

[slow fox]

Is it too much of a commitment for you?

Would it be easier if I sent them my documentation?

[spring bolt]

well the hard part is finding the right person, and as far as i know, that guy is CN time zone
well most of them are

[eternal moth]

CN only has one, so if they're Chinese that would be expected.

[slow fox]

Thank you for your service :mutsukisalute:

[spring bolt]

anyway i will let you know if there is an update

[slow fox]

Thank thank

[worn quest]

how good is admiral hipper meta?

[soft raft]

Nothing too special that would warrant her being a high prio pick
not even for tech (+2 CA HP total)

[worn quest]

also if i am 40 pulls away from the guaranteed fritz should i go for it if i already have her

[soft raft]

wouldnt really reccomend it even if you have more than 400 cubes

[forest palm]

we have Yorktown after this so definitely not

[stark quiver]

i would draw the line at 20 pulls

[loud cedar]

Should I use my Bulin on Fritz Rumey or Z52? Or is it better to not use them on either one for now?

[stark quiver]

id wait

[loud cedar]

Alrighty, thank ya

[eternal moth]

Do you have enough bulins to MLB either one?

[loud cedar]

Yeah, I have exactly 4 atm

So only have enough for a single UR

[soft raft]

hold for now
esp if you dont have Yorktown 2

[eternal moth]

You think Yorkie's better than either of them?

[loud cedar]

Is that our next banner?

[soft raft]

she's rerunning basically right after this event yee

[eternal moth]

Yeah, it's going to be a rerun, so you even get 43 free tickets

[atomic abyss]

It is our next banner
I still believe she's better

[stark quiver]

id personally say shes more versetile

[spark ridge]

how many points should i farm in the event, also what should i get from shop? i have the equipment, augment stones, or shoudl i just keep farming and try clear out the shop

[loud cedar]

Alright, i'll take your folks word for it. Would she be more helpful than these 2 current URs at least going into Ch14? I'm barely about to clear ch13 after asking for help like 1~1.5months ago it feels like now lol

[stark quiver]

as much as u have to get all you need from shop

[eternal moth]

There's a shop priority list in the datamine

[worn quest]

should i be farming the event or the campaign rn

[atomic abyss]

The thing is, all of them appear to be really good for w15 lol

[eternal moth]

Event

[stark quiver]

event

[atomic abyss]

Event up to 55k is recommended

[loud cedar]

Ah, great. Well by the time i'm worreid about W15 i'll prob have gotten enough Bulin to mlb all 3 of em lol

[atomic abyss]

With yk2, we already know she is extremely good there

With Rumey and Z52 well, it'll take time

[dusky vale]

how much of campaign and hard mode bosses are heavy armor does anyone know

[worn quest]

for farming thr event i should playing the hardest stage i can?

[atomic abyss]

Out of the relevant ones, I think just 3 or 4?

[eternal moth]

Higher-level stages give more XP

[worn quest]

is this more efficient than campaign or is it only up to 55k currency things

[dusky vale]

what about other endgame modes like meta fights and arbiters

[soft raft]

D3 is about as efficent as W10-11
dunno really for anything lower than that

[worn quest]

cuz im at world 11-1 in campaign rn

[soft raft]

there's only 1 heavy arbiter and see /sirenstats for the META bosses we've had so far (and also other OpSi enemy stats)

[atomic abyss]

Lads, what even is 15-3 boss

It's not on the wiki for some bizarre reason

[eternal moth]

The DDs I think?

[stark quiver]

zuihou

[atomic abyss]

4
13-4, 14-1, 14-2, 15-2

[atomic abyss]

Out of 3 harbiters, only 1 is heavy
Out of all the abyssals, only 1 is heavy

However there are a handful of meta showdowns with heavy armoured bosses (ArizonaM, QEM, RodM, Metato, Maihou)

Out of which only the former 2 are perma

[dusky vale]

i see thanks

[storm heron]

[sweet delta]

Would be even worse for kimo then, cuz 13h released like a month before 15 and is way easier

[stark quiver]

idek how he came with the idea that perseus is better than uni in mob

[atomic abyss]

The only place Perseus is better than uni is for crossfleet

[stark quiver]

kimo believes otherwise

[slow fox]

Didn't Jimmy make a video with the conclusion that Perseus ~ Akashi

[storm heron]

he said perseus better in w15

not by much though nvm he concude both have the same performance

[worn quest]

is there a way to have both of my fleets attack the mobs when autoing or no?

[cobalt rapids]

percy is much better than akashi

[forest palm]

Repair Ships are a joke

[atomic abyss]

No

[quartz jungle]

It was partially a joke because he made Perseus replace another ship instead of Unicorn

[knotty garnet]

Is this good for W15?

ignoring levels, just general composition

[storm heron]

eld offtank pls

[stark quiver]

it could work with the right gear
mob may want a secondary healer
maybe swap sashi and bis

[viscid swift]

could be better, depending on what you have

[soft raft]

^

[cobalt rapids]

musashi mob and use a 2nd healer if u have instead of fritz

[spring bolt]

3 dd in mob means zuihou would be the best pick btw

[raven canyon]

i wonder if i should invest in perseus as my 2nd healer

[storm heron]

not as ur second healer

[viscid swift]

she's +2 AVI for Unicorn

[stark quiver]

not to be used in the same fleet
but shes not bad

[spring bolt]

for 3 dd zuihou would actually heal more than uni on paper

[raven canyon]

ic

[storm heron]

uni heals main fleet more though, which I think is the problem here

[viscid swift]

she doesn't actually

[atomic abyss]

Percy heals main fleet better yes

But at that point you'd use zui/vol/aqui/ryuuh

[knotty garnet]

Ignoring levels, this is a better settup?

[stark quiver]

eldridge offtank

[atomic abyss]

Otherwise her skill won't ever proc

[knotty garnet]

that slot being?

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

far right

[atomic abyss]

The third right

[cobalt rapids]

after first boss

[storm heron]

what setup are you even going to do, A or B

[forest palm]

Fritz on Support Fleet cause she's literally the best for that shit

[spring bolt]

1 fritz = 1.5 lusty

[slow fox]

Looks like Aksahi slightly worse mmmmmmmmmm

[cobalt rapids]

healthy vang vs 💀 vang

[storm heron]

I wish JImmy could've done the conclusion seriously

[cobalt rapids]

this combo specifically akashi does deal better with cv nodes
and prob other combos aswell if paired with 2ndary healer

but yea otherwise i would hope its a joke

[atomic abyss]

You do still hit AS I assume?

[worldly pewter]

3 DDs in the mob usually means they are kinda on the squishy side no ?

[storm heron]

nah those are the most tanky stuff with eld

[atomic abyss]

Not when those 3 are the tankiest DDs in the game

[viscid swift]

you literally have 3 of the tankiest ships in the game right there

[atomic abyss]

Z52 already out tanks Eugen

[viscid swift]

not just for DDs, vanguards period

[storm heron]

eld x 1.5 too

[atomic abyss]

And Azuma

Eld adds another what, 33%?

[forest palm]

Azuma is really not that high a bar these days

[atomic abyss]

And Laff2 was already about to reach the lofty heights of anchorage

[sharp socket]

how is the heavy damage though on that

just torps coming out?

[storm heron]

isn't z52 good for heavy

[atomic abyss]

Z52 has torps in her AoA

[sharp socket]

DDs dont do very well against heavy enemies with guns is what i know

[storm heron]

or equal modifier doesn't equal good damage

[sharp socket]

its just torps that do good damage

[atomic abyss]

And to be honest

[viscid swift]

why heavy armor even specifically, it's for campaign

[storm heron]

her barrage ignore armor type and shields?

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure w15 has less heavy than w13 and w14

[sharp socket]

cause w15 has more heavy enemies?

[viscid swift]

no?

[spring bolt]

iirc for ch 15 mob environment, laffey is the most tanky one of all ships, z52 on paper is less tanky herself but provides more ehp to the team as she heals a little

[cobalt rapids]

no im a dum dum and i wouldve lost supremacy when swapping to akashi but i didnt swap my bossfleet so both were on superiority
so percy shouldve been slightly healthier

[atomic abyss]

I'm pretty sure that's a no

[sharp socket]

it doesnt?

[viscid swift]

you don't have the production BBs galore of W14

[quartz jungle]

It's more than W13 but less than W14 I believe?

[atomic abyss]

Were there command ships in w15?

[viscid swift]

and besides what do you think Musashi is for

[viscid swift]

should be

[atomic abyss]

14 has an incredible amount of BBs

[storm heron]

I remembered there were 3 BBs on the edge of the screen at once at w15

[stark quiver]

from what ive been thru
14 was harder than 15

[sharp socket]

ive been traumatised by w14 and assumed it applies to w15, gomenasorry

[storm heron]

finally someone who agrees with me

[viscid swift]

well, on release 14 was probably harder than on release 15 for various reasons

[knotty garnet]

Im surprised we havent had a level cap increase in years

[hollow gust]

We don’t need it

[viscid swift]

the devs have stated publicly they hate raising the level cap, and for good reason too

[stark quiver]

i had to manual 14-4 boss with URs

[hollow gust]

W15 is being increasingly easy from the AA powercreep

[little tree]

14 bosses

[spring bolt]

personally i still prefers bis2 for mob due to the certificate to help the max threat full map clear flex

[storm heron]

yeah level system hard to modify

[hollow gust]

just stagger your ships

[quartz jungle]

Yeah, W14 not hard now, but I cleared it Pre-Laffey II, much harder

[knotty garnet]

The main reason I want to tackle w15 is due to the buffs given by the event atm.

[undone plover]

That was the case for me too tbh
But that is because I did ch15 later when I was more prepared and knew more about the game

[storm heron]

the buffs from w15 was flame?

[knotty garnet]

3% less damage or 3% more damage is nice

[viscid swift]

W14 was powercrept long before Laffey 2

[hollow gust]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[hollow gust]

You can autoclear w14 day1

[storm heron]

you can't autoclear w15 day1

[hollow gust]

Y’all spoiled asf from all the URs

[hollow gust]

You could

[viscid swift]

less so it's hard to modify and more just raising the level cap power creeps all existing content

[storm heron]

wait rly? I don't think there's autosearch

[sinful escarp]

for w15 mob fleet who is a better choice to bring eld retro or laffey2?

[viscid swift]

well depending on the other options both may be your best option

[storm heron]

I mean you still need a lot of niches to be able to clear w13+

[hollow gust]

Auto search is different from auto clearing though

[undone plover]

I would take eldridge to boss
And laffey for mob

But depends on your other ships as well I guess

[viscid swift]

you still need to be competent yes but even just 5 additional levels does a lot for what you can get away with

[hollow gust]

Either way you don’t need UR spam to clear late game

Yatsen Sandy Harbin was a very strong mob frontline when w15 first came out

[storm heron]

I mean raising level cap probably means that game progression become longer and w14 farming is a norm

[stark quiver]

w14 farming wont be a norm

[atomic abyss]

People tend to forget yat sen has AAGM+1 after all

Which literally means you can shoot at more planes

[storm heron]

her AA good?

[hollow gust]

If you are stuck on w15 right now, you will be stuck on w15 with 130, higher level just makes your clears more reliable

[atomic abyss]

It's Eldridge retro but worse in terms of AA

[viscid swift]

it literally doesn't

[storm heron]

cause mgm+1 on low AA ships is definitely a downgrade nvm

[atomic abyss]

It's...not tho?

[hollow gust]

Underestimating Yatsen

[sinful escarp]

i have this as my mob fleet. i have a lot of ships and gear just too lazy too to progress

[atomic abyss]

Especially for a place like w15

The number of AA guns literally means the number of planes you can shoot at any one time

[hollow gust]

She is absurdly strong

[storm heron]

good mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

And ofc there's the whole she's extremely extremely tanky

Wait did she have the anti sakura that Ning and Ping have

Not like her dps matters much admittedly
It is quite bad

Tho the CL gun buff went a long way

[sinful escarp]

ok so about the boss fleet this couldnt clear 15-2

[hollow gust]

Yatsen DPS is fine

[storm heron]

isn't 15-2 the one where you're supposed to have ultra instinct to reset

[hollow gust]

Honestly that’s a gear issue, and skill issue, that’s overkill fleet

[atomic abyss]

Ok, so what actually happened in the boss battle that caused it to fail even

[storm heron]

ise hyuuga

[sinful escarp]

wdym?

[storm heron]

pew pew flagship dead

[storm heron]

your flagship might have been sunk that's why you failed

[spring bolt]

time to give backlines washing machines

[rare wyvern]

On manual, do you go for both washing machines and timely airstrike to clear shells ?

[knotty garnet]

I hope we dont get W16 without some adjustments to ship strength. W15 is such a barrier to entry. It's the only thing stopping me from getting 100% completion.

[storm heron]

I will not even bother washing machine on manual, since timed airstrike is the most op thing

[viscid swift]

we did W15 day one just fine, W16 should be no different assuming properly built fleets and gears for whatever it entails

[hollow gust]

you can just post your dock in a thread and someone can help u

[storm heron]

w16 now depends on what the ships available later

[slow fox]

Day 2 of wishing W16 to be elite spam

[sinful escarp]

ohhh i see imma try it later today. thanks guys

[storm heron]

ships are probably so good by then to the point w16 is a walk in the park

[knotty garnet]

I have all ships except for Houston 2 and Taihou meta. I already posted a fleet that seems to be ideal.

[viscid swift]

well which of the URs and PRs are MLB/dev 30

[hollow gust]

That fleet is far from ideal, you can also read the w15 guide

[stark quiver]

and i mean
would ch 16 even be released in the next 2~ years

[knotty garnet]

All aside from Nak/Napoli

[hollow gust]

If your ships aren’t max leveled and skilled, they migh as well not exists

[obsidian ivy]

I think w16 is due this year (2025)

[storm heron]

this year

[viscid swift]

Mob: Musashi, Unicorn, Aquila/Zuiho, Laffey 2, Shimanto, San Diego
Boss: Alsace, Amagi, Shinano, Guam, Z52, Eldridge

something like that

[obsidian ivy]

It's almost the end of 2024!

[ivory pawn]

W16 in a week or less, you heard it here first.

[hollow gust]

Gearing matters too

[viscid swift]

of course

[stark quiver]

anyways idk
16 coming out soon is too fast paced

[viscid swift]

let me get that real quick

[storm heron]

san diego tankier than shimanto

[spring bolt]

~~devs are free, they do whatever they want to so ch 16 maybe 2025, or maybe 5205 ~~

[hollow gust]

Shimanto isn’t that tanky

[viscid swift]

calling it right now, W16 you have to fight Yamato and kamikazes

[obsidian ivy]

||I'd rather them do an expansion to opsi already but it doesn't seem ever likely||

[stark quiver]

dont normal planes already kamikaze

[storm heron]

damn I just realized shimanto is indeed less tanky than san diego, I underestimated sandy

[signal fog]

how good the 2 new UR compared to their UR peers ?

[knotty garnet]

Z52 busted af

[hollow gust]

They are as good as normal URs

[atomic abyss]

UR so very good
How very good? We dont know yet

[pseudo saffron]

What aux guns are good for Fritz?

[obsidian ivy]

Z52 isn't gonna magically patch this up right

[storm heron]

yeah no

[stark quiver]

no

[obsidian ivy]

||throwing away the +13 la9 actually increased average run dmg I'm kinda betrayed now||

[spring bolt]

that looks like 0 helena radar, is it?

[obsidian ivy]

Think this run was 0

But icr

[storm heron]

||maybe due to concealment||

[spring bolt]

if so, i think z52 indeed can fix this

[obsidian ivy]

Yea concealment is a big deal

[remote quarry]

Has anyone tried a 3BB comp against Taihou META?

[stark quiver]

yes
its not good

[storm heron]

there was someone that claimed 20% kr

[viscid swift]

that for gear, use more 57s if you have them

[stark quiver]

does anyone have any 3bb comp

[hollow gust]

Mob fighting 2 bosses or 1?

[remote quarry]

I haven't seen one, but I might mess around and see what I can do

[viscid swift]

not sure actually, probably works either way though

[hollow gust]

Thehole meta?

[stark quiver]

what are these cursed names yall give her

[eternal moth]

I just use Maihou

[remote quarry]

What site did you use to generate that screenshot?

[knotty garnet]

I use Sadoko

[viscid swift]

Renhex

[eternal moth]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/ is another one

[tame pivot]

As far as PVP goes.. how does Napoli at Dev 30 compare to Anchorage at Fate Sim V? Just finished Napoli/PR 7 today

[spring bolt]

CN has a proved ch 15 homework, if you can copy everything you will be able to do full clear at max threat. mob do boss 1 and 2. it's from Jan so no new ships
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/886377771263066137

[knotty garnet]

You dont use Window Key, Shift + S?

[eternal moth]

Ask in #pvp

[viscid swift]

she doesn't as far as PvP is concerned

[tame pivot]

Forgot that was a channel

[storm heron]

being heavy armored is just a downgrade to the current torp meta

and not enough stall to be able to replace laffii

[eternal moth]

Torpedo go brrrrrtttt in pvp

[atomic abyss]

Anchorage better in pvp

Med armour and manjuu are big factors in her favour

And you can time her smoke more easily

[eternal moth]

But people aren't even using Ancho much, or at least I haven't seen her. It's all about Laffii and Eld now

[atomic abyss]

I mean for the people that don't have laff, it's usually anc

[tame pivot]

I kinda figured, but I'm still not well versed in armor types and such. I kinda just use strong ships and hope things work out lol

[storm heron]

yeah just copy one from their pins

[viscid swift]

well unlike PVE content, for PvP there's a fleet tier list in the pins

[elfin hollow]

are commissions randomized? I'm kinda wondering why the 5-8 cubes commissions is yet to pop up on my list.

been doing a lot of 8 hour comms and still no coobs commissions

[tame pivot]

Yeah, I don't have Laffey II sadly.. started right after her event ended so gotta wait like another year for her return

[storm heron]

there's no rock paper scissors this time, so tier list good

[eternal moth]

It is, but the 8 hour comm is also kind of a waste now, with oil capped stages being available

[storm heron]

nahh

[tame pivot]

So for Anchorage and Napoli which would you put in a boss fleet and which one for a mob fleet then?..

[storm heron]

wait it was 8 hours before 10 hours

[eternal moth]

Napoli wins in tankiness

[storm heron]

for campaign napoli is kind of an upgrade pretty sure

[eternal moth]

So Ancho would likely go in mob and Napoli in boss I would think, unless it's a boss with a lot of torpedoes

[tame pivot]

Thnx

[elfin hollow]

yeah that's fair since 1200 oil is a lot

but with Rumey event ticking towards the end, I kinda need dem coobs XD

[stark quiver]

we are less than one week in

[storm heron]

ah that one, stop doing it, not worth ur oil

[eternal moth]

we're less than a week in, not almost at the end

[worldly pewter]

spam c1 and cope

[storm heron]

support the game

[short anchor]

whats fritz loadouts?

[storm heron]

campaign: flapjack, wyvern, plygun
single target boss: la-9, la-9, staag

[elfin hollow]

what's with C1? I'm getting my ships to 9k fleet power to tackle that stage

[storm heron]

abdou what kind of C1 is this

[worldly pewter]

corrosion 1 not the c1 from the event

[short anchor]

whats a la 9?

[stark quiver]

plane
ur
rocket
good
pr7

[elfin hollow]

ah XD

[storm heron]

use bfg, bfg, staag instead for medium, or gold_fockewolf gold_fockewolf, staag for heavy, or HVAR, HVAR, staag for light

[short anchor]

ah thankis!

[signal fog]

Since you have reached map 15, you should have a certain self-understanding, so I will not go into details.

me who always copying people homework

[storm heron]

cheating is not good...

[signal fog]

as in copying people homework, sorry

[spring bolt]

that's human behavior so carry on

[fiery raptor]

is double wyvern worse air intercept than say, wyvern fighter?

[atomic abyss]

Way worse

[storm heron]

wyvern's interception is like worse than purple corsair

[spring bolt]

also worse than br810

[fiery raptor]

would you say that baguette are better in w15 mob than wyvern? i find the plane spam more problematic than the tb doing damage

[stark quiver]

no

[atomic abyss]

Lmao no

If you end the battle faster, you have less planes to kill

Which is why some people even recommend spearfish for w15

[stark quiver]

going into w15 you should have good AA from your vanguards and cv fighters
wyverns are there for good damage

[lament ledge]

Is z52 worth buying?

[atomic abyss]

Yes, worth getting both copies even

[fiery raptor]

almost felt buyers' regret
what spearfish do again? drops intercept for even more FIST?

[atomic abyss]

Drops intercept for rockets

It has rockets and torps

[lament ledge]

Okays tyyy

[fiery raptor]

for mob or boss?

[viscid swift]

it also reloads quite a bite faster but does less damage per torp

[atomic abyss]

Wyvern is better tbh

[spring bolt]

just rely on fighters and AA guns to do serious AA
only use br810 over wyvern if you know what you are doing, for specific timing purpose

[viscid swift]

or if you're too poor for some reason

[tepid frigate]

My oil is on limit for quite some time already
Aside from grinding a certain level
How do i spend oil effectively?

[fiery raptor]

food

when i have a glut of oil i try to keep that bonus timer maxed at 24

[spring bolt]

use the high efficiency thing to grind if you don't have enough time
otherwise just grind more

[south sequoia]

If im gonna drag her to level in d3 does she want a cl gun or aa

[fiery raptor]

does the letter thing make a significant differene for bisko zwei at 0 ammo? I finally have houston 2 mlb, just have 15-3 to 3 star.

[viscid swift]

CL gun

[spring bolt]

skill 2 lv1, aa gun for now

[viscid swift]

free damage basically

[fiery raptor]

are there better option than bisko with letter for 0 ammoing 15-3? for the last star

[south sequoia]

assuming like level 10 skill 2, does the cl damage on her deal a good amount?

[hollow gust]

if you want her to mvp all the time run a fast comp

[spring bolt]

not good amount but free damage is damage, especially in mob

[hollow gust]

I manage to guarantee mvp when shes around lvl100

[fiery raptor]

is fritz a light/med buttwrecker?

[hollow gust]

med mainly

[south sequoia]

she wrecks med so hard

[hollow gust]

yorky is kinda unmatched in light

[final heart]

how do I clear C2 in the event?
it kept spamming units at half point of the map and I couldn't kill all of them in time
I'm currently using this team

[spring bolt]

as a solo ship, she actually does more damage than yk2 on paper, cuz yk2 buff requires 3 eu ships
but no one would seriously care about yk2 damage when the buff is unable to proc

[tepid frigate]

Is it good to retire ships i don't usually use?
(Except limited ones and ill keep enough for commissions)

[fiery raptor]

yes, especially if they're easy to get back from shop or campaign drops

[tepid frigate]

Thankss

[storm heron]

ykII and amagi require faction fleet?

[fair lance]

First off move nelson to flagship and ranger isn't a great ship

[eager mulch]

[final heart]

I was told to use her for now

[ivory pawn]

In time? What limit are you running into?

[fair lance]

What planes are you using as well?

[fiery raptor]

who is usually the third ship in yk2 antilight for eu? kearsarge, yk2 +? (opsi) just someone like guam or laffii in vanguard?

[final heart]

backline died from getting rammed by mob ships, I couldn't kill all of them in time nor bodyblocking enough

[spring bolt]

helena?

[stark quiver]

can be nakh/enty
or avp/implac

[fiery raptor]

isn't helena with the battleships or helena no longer standard? agir helena ply, replace helena perm with hindo or something?

[final heart]

first pic is unicorn's and second pic is ranger's
(yes, they're awful because god forbid me have good planes)

[viscid swift]

that's why you have battleship, move Nelson to the flagship position and give her a good aux gun

[ivory pawn]

Moving Nelson over to Flag as suggested should help a bit, make sure to level up her secondary gun as well.

[fiery raptor]

avp kear yk2 for me, i just stuck guam beause i don't think balti or nh2 is strong enough

[final heart]

this is my nelson's guns, are they barely enough?

[fiery raptor]

nakhimov procs yk2 skill?

[viscid swift]

use this
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_150mm_(TbtsK_C/36)#Type_3-0

[fiery raptor]

i may be illiterate

[spring bolt]

for opsi? well depending on how good your dock is, top fleet building now only needs 1 mob and 1 boss, rest are just crossfleet, so if you choose to use kear+yk2, you can just put helena in the boss fleet

[final heart]

it's on Helena rn, should I switch over?

[viscid swift]

yes

would be great if you could get another one though

[final heart]

I'm trying very hard to get anything usable rn

[quartz jungle]

Should be Laffey II yes

[spring bolt]

or if you had to use a third fleet and need to move helena over, yes use laffey2 or guam

[fair lance]

It all takes time

You might just need a couple more levels to be honest

[fiery raptor]

i just stuck with the classic mob, boss ap, heavy cv, light cv quartet, didn't realize xfleet spam is the wae

[final heart]

yeah I put unicorn in flagship position cus of this

I just need her to be 90 so I can modernize her

[fair lance]

Ah

[weary gust]

cross fleet spam is more for giggles than anything tbh. There's not a whole team worth of ships yet that provide actually good crossfleet buffs, most are just barrages.

[spring bolt]

opsi is years old now, newer ships just powercrept it hard, 1 mob 1 boss can handle all opsi contents easily, crossfleet is more like "why leaving those slots empty?"

[weary gust]

Opsi was easy to begin with. Strongholds were the only thing at the beginning which were kinda powerful.

[eager mulch]

[spring bolt]

it didn't work this month but in Nov, crazy people were doing 1 omni 3 crossfleet for all opsi contents including harby... they did it, with sub tho
Oct, not Nov...

[final heart]

I should only buy 1 Z52, right?

[fiery raptor]

you only need the 1 but the 2nd for mlb fodder is good

[spring bolt]

buying 2 is totally fine, trading oil for rainbow bulin

[final heart]

can I still buy the rest of the goodies if I can only farm B3 reliably?

[fiery raptor]

with the ur dds coming in with gacha UR, URins are getting tight to budget

[fiery raptor]

try to get as far as you can, with diligence i think you can still farm enough

try to get SP best you can it's the best points income

[final heart]

B3 is as far as I can get according to the farming guide

[fiery raptor]

push until you can't clear.

[final heart]

yeah, I can't push through C2 rn

[fiery raptor]

grind b3 try to build a fleet to beat C and D during the grind you have until january

[unkempt lantern]

A quick question, what is the difference between our normal ships and the meta ships?

[fiery raptor]

meta ships don't use dock space (now)

[stark quiver]

meta ships are often worse
golds are decent
some are excellent

[atomic abyss]

think of it as alternate timeline ships
functionally they are upgraded and limit broken in different ways, but they are played the same way as regular ships

[sweet delta]

They are as strong as 10 normal ships in lore

[eager mulch]

what about in game

[fiery raptor]

depends on the ship, most elite metas suck, golds depends on their skils, ships like qe meta and nagato meta kick butt

[wind hazel]

some are weaker than amagi-chan

[fiery raptor]

repulse was pretty good too, renown not as much (meta)

same with gnei and scharn

[eager mulch]

Melena

[atomic abyss]

rodM

[stark quiver]

u556 meta

[atomic abyss]

rodM and metato are like, top few gold BBs

mintsuu has her pvp niche

[unkempt lantern]

Okii. Thank you very much. I just always wondered which side the meta ships are on in the lore. There are many different

[atomic abyss]

bearn meta has a good staggered airstrike

[stark quiver]

kirov meta

[fiery raptor]

yeah metas =/= ashes apparently

[atomic abyss]

mirov and helmet are solid DPS

[soft raft]

you can go to #al-lore for that

[atomic abyss]

michita is the 3rd best vanguard DPS in the game
as with hindy, excels with light, and med to a less extent

[spring bolt]

wichita meta is too tricky, on paper she's a beast but to actully keep her low hp but not dead is hard

[unkempt lantern]

Oki

[fiery raptor]

qe meta is just annoying to sync up because her fights require your own leveled metas to break her mob gimmick

[atomic abyss]

just use a crazy little thing called eldridge

like i too was very sceptical of mich

then i tried using her with eld for QEM

[frozen inlet]

Could someone help me build proper fleets for opsi?

[atomic abyss]

honestly she's rad lol

[stark quiver]

yes

[atomic abyss]

sure, create a thread, and dump your ships in

[stark quiver]

a forced glass cannon

[atomic abyss]

more like a glass railgun but ye

[spring bolt]

the point is to keep her hp low, but not dead

[atomic abyss]

extremely frail, but extremely DPS

[fiery raptor]

ew enmity mechanics in al

[stark quiver]

toaru no railgun

[soft raft]

Railgun Lane

[viscid swift]

I tried Wichita against QE and I have mixed opinions

[fiery raptor]

isn't that just odin

[atomic abyss]

mich is definitely the least tech reliant option for QEM

[viscid swift]

she definitely cleared faster than Helena but would die before the end exposing Unzen causing the vanguard to collapse before the end

[atomic abyss]

use eld chan

[frozen inlet]

Opsi Fleet Help

[stark quiver]

what hull

[atomic abyss]

i used eld kaza mich iirc?

or eld unzen mich
cant rmb

[viscid swift]

well it was before Eldridge retro was a thing

[stark quiver]

why eld tho

[spring bolt]

too bad we can't do meta after maxing pt

[atomic abyss]

why else

[stark quiver]

3 ijn

[atomic abyss]

[sweet delta]

We can't||, some people can||

[spring bolt]

should be eld skill procs after wichita meta at low hp, keeping her alive longer

[atomic abyss]

ideally yes

wait i didnt do a mich run after i got d30 nakhi LOOOOOOL

[fiery raptor]

was there a ship that has zombie effect on ally?

[atomic abyss]

Well

[spring bolt]

it would be awkward if eld skill procs at the beginning and prevent wichita taking damage

[atomic abyss]

yes, that is mich in main tank

you are not hallucinating

[viscid swift]

use Ark Royal instead of AvP there

[atomic abyss]

...you want to see what cracked thing i tried?

[viscid swift]

well why not

[atomic abyss]

this was b4 i d30 nakhi

[fiery raptor]

who is this fighting taihom?

[atomic abyss]

QE meta

buffed d25 nakhi outDPSes avp

which is hilarious to say the least

[storm heron]

nakhi need tashkent

lowering paired damage

[atomic abyss]

barely any differene in overall dmg

[sweet delta]

[storm heron]

at least in that case

[atomic abyss]

in fact unzen had a much better run of dmg here, 40k more

and yes, as you noticed, no eld

[storm heron]

did unzen drop a torp aux

[atomic abyss]

forced to yes

she dropped 2 oxys

no way she would main tank otherwise

[spring bolt]

how consistent was it?

[atomic abyss]

well let's just say i have better luck with mich main tank with eld retro

[storm heron]

ur nakh is d30 now tho right

[atomic abyss]

and at the end of the day, this was more a concept being tested rather than an ACTUAL practical run

to prove that a d25 nakhi is that cracked

i shd test it soon

[viscid swift]

well...

[atomic abyss]

turns out UR CV funni

[atomic abyss]

practical run would have been this

[spring bolt]

idk but isn't avp the top 10 worst anti heavy gold cv?

[atomic abyss]

well yes

[viscid swift]

yeah, so a more apt comparison against QE would have been Ark Royal

[sweet delta]

Does lb1 Musashi beat nelson retro?

[atomic abyss]

let's try unactivated nakhi first

[spring bolt]

i guess yes

[storm heron]

is there a way to view ships' stats at lb1?

[spring bolt]

other than cn wiki, idk

[atomic abyss]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/ships/id/217

lars' database does

[storm heron]

[atomic abyss]

oh.

That was good (QEM)

[flat ruin]

Does using high efficiency gives double the exp

[atomic abyss]

double everything

[soft raft]

think of it as doing two runs at once

[atomic abyss]

all the positives and negatives are doubled

[flat ruin]

thanks

[soft raft]

double everything including the negatives

I essentially use it only when I lack time to grind much

[flat ruin]

negative doubled is positive

[atomic abyss]

@spring bolt@storm heron@viscid swift kek

the rng is really whether mich procs her barrage

[viscid swift]

now a question of how consistent is it

[atomic abyss]

from previous experience, should be more reliable than helmet and mirov

im severely tech deficient so that also doesnt help

[atomic abyss]

mich is main tank to achieve this

[stark quiver]

bruh my mich cant even kill the last 3 summons

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

the RNG with mich is whether her skill procs

if your mich fails to proc any of her skills when the summons come up? it's the same issue helmet and mirov has with their barrage accuracy

[storm heron]

you guys doing dossier?

[stark quiver]

testing with dossier

[stark quiver]

anyways how reliable is 3 bb QEM

[atomic abyss]

i am supposed to be doing arimeta but

[viscid swift]

I got 100% pretty much with my 3 BB comp

[atomic abyss]

ok i have to confess, there is 1 VERY reliable way to clear QEM summons with 1 meta

it's just not something i'd recommend

[rough vale]

Is it more efficient to do the 3x normals or just spam event D3?

[viscid swift]

though of course high tech requirements

[stark quiver]

3x normals are daily

[atomic abyss]

the 3x normal is a once a day bonus

[atomic abyss]

bearn meta

[stark quiver]

max tech diff

[atomic abyss]

with the right gear, bearnM's airstrike strikes just as the summons spawn

ofc it means you sacrifice 1 UR CV's worth of DPS

[rough vale]

Rephrase: Is it a more efficient use of oil/points to actually do 3x normals once a day, or just keep doing D3 and ignore them?

[viscid swift]

or use Soryuu META

[viscid swift]

if you can do it cheaply enough it is better

[atomic abyss]

if your normal map comps are super super cheap, yes its worth

[storm heron]

B3 4 oil > D3 full

[south sequoia]

has any vanguard meta creeped helena meta in terms of clearing the qem summons?

[atomic abyss]

cleo

scroll up

[south sequoia]

no

[stark quiver]

wichita straight up died during summon phase

[atomic abyss]

we were literally just discussing this

the issue with mich is that you're pretty much forced to bring eld

[storm heron]

:christmasamaginom:

[stark quiver]

my 3bb dreams

[atomic abyss]

i mean you can try without eld ofc

[viscid swift]

Oh yeah these were my runs with Wichita META

[south sequoia]

Well I did not expect to see mich lmao

[atomic abyss]

well

mich is the 3rd highest DPS vanguard...

[dusk merlin]

I can't seem to access c/d maps as there's no option for them

[south sequoia]

click the stage

[atomic abyss]

bottom left

there is if you didnt skip past the tutorial

[stark quiver]

oh yea whats your bb tech at

[viscid swift]

max of the relevant stuff

[stark quiver]

[dusk merlin]

Oh wow it was hidden

[atomic abyss]

wait

why the fuck am i using nakhi for qem when i have eld there

[viscid swift]

to get 80% slow I guess

[atomic abyss]

ender pls make it make sense

haku shd do more in theory

[south sequoia]

nubekuryuu time

[storm heron]

isn't it 84% slow?

[atomic abyss]

hmm

[storm heron]

or there's a slow cap

[atomic abyss]

heccdabber shd still more to heavy than la-9.... right?

[stark quiver]

heccdabber
crazy

[viscid swift]

what

[atomic abyss]

helldiver

i dont have 3 tenrais

[viscid swift]

no

[south sequoia]

no 3 tenrais in 2024 is crazy

[atomic abyss]

sigh i have to recalc the timings now...

well it wasnt that hard at least

[final heart]

should I use these?

[atomic abyss]

use if you need to level up a ship asap

[weary gust]

You use exp books when you need/want to level up a ship fast.

[atomic abyss]

half the TBs are missing with haku

[south sequoia]

voro is way more reliable for nakhimov right?

boutta level her

[atomic abyss]

both are equally bad if the enemy has summons, but ye voro isnt as badly affected

tash does high damage to light

[sage nebula]

reliable in what way? having a slow out?

[viscid swift]

I tried Voro with Nakhimov against Taiho, did not work

[bold cove]

So la9 is all around fighter, can use anywhere, and only got beat by HVAR in light?

[atomic abyss]

you cannot use it "anywhere"

it cant intercept

[bold cove]

I mean mostly boss

For campaign i think flap, tiger is okay?

[storm heron]

[atomic abyss]

flap and tiger still best for campaign

also cleo, tenrai to gearlab soon anyways

[south sequoia]

oof

[storm heron]

should change to no 3 tenrais in 2025 is crazy

[sharp socket]

upgrade sub fleet?

[atomic abyss]

soyuz is better for maihou from experience

[sharp socket]

if yes which 3 is best

[bold cove]

What is cleo? May i ask

[wind hazel]

if you wanna be lazy and can wait, LNY raid soon, can grind affinity

[atomic abyss]

96 81 37

[stark quiver]

yes
itll be worse but yes

[atomic abyss]

doable but best to wait

why rush?

[viscid swift]

if you don't have a good amount of the latter I would imagine you're lacking a lot of other stuff

[soft raft]

This person

[bold cove]

Okay

[atomic abyss]

hmm, let me try kaza over unzen now

[sharp socket]

do skills completely not activate for w15 support fleet

[viscid swift]

correct

[forest palm]

yes, all skills including gear skills are dead

meaning any slot that isn't a fighter may as well be used to push stats

[sharp socket]

so indep does not get boosted by EU fighter

if in support fleet

[atomic abyss]

fighter eff still matters

[forest palm]

yup

Indep isn't doing jack shit in Support Fleet

[atomic abyss]

the only thing good about indep is 4 fighters

but at that point, just use her in your fleet normally

[forest glade]

Any build perfect on fritz? ._. finally got her over 280 pulls

[sharp socket]

well im 2/3rd of the way to support fleet finished

and i wanna do 15-1 first

[sweet delta]

You got fritz after 280 builds?

[atomic abyss]

how does fritz take 280 pulls?

[forest glade]

[atomic abyss]

you mean 280 cubes i assume

[forest palm]

this is why Fritz is so good in the support fleet, 8 fighters, 140 slot eff, and high AVI

[sharp socket]

i can hold off the rest of w15 till i get rumey or muse lusty up

[forest glade]

Yes mb

[atomic abyss]

anyways, as always
it

is a case of itdepedicitis
where do you intend to use her?
is she max stars?

[sharp socket]

i also realised i dont have that much spec core, so i can only do fritz or z52

[forest glade]

Not yet, but already in lvl 92 using exp. I'll use her on abyss

[storm heron]

itdepedecitis

[atomic abyss]

abyssal? double la-9 most likely then

[forest palm]

are you making any effort to get the second 52?

[atomic abyss]

double HVAR if enemy is light

[sharp socket]

well im missing duisburg for one

[forest glade]

How about heavy

[forest palm]

well good luck on the side quest

[storm heron]

you're expected to sweep the banner anyways

just like what cheeky said or smth

[atomic abyss]

you use your sakura CVs for heavy and ignore rumey

[bold salmon]

how big is the difference in light vs hvar?

[sharp socket]

im currently at 180 UR vouchers though i havent done any of the challenge missions yet

[forest glade]

[viscid swift]

why are you limited to Purple Depth Charges.....

[storm heron]

you retire hedgehog or something

[atomic abyss]

didnt this guy scrap his hedge

[sharp socket]

[forest palm]

was more talking about if you go diving for Dui

[sharp socket]

i tried to, i got 3/4 of the ships by 20 pulls so i went for more but got no duisburg, was my fav seeing the event too

[forest palm]

[sage nebula]

HVAR does ~16% more dmg vs light

[forest palm]

a considerable, and noticable amount of damage to be sure

[sharp socket]

dont worry yk2 event soon, you can try coping with ham2

[atomic abyss]

uh, just to be sure

there is only 1 boss on 15-3, and it's zuihou right?

[storm heron]

2 bosses

[atomic abyss]

as in 2 boss nodes?

[sinful escarp]

its only on 15-2 where you put EVA aux on boss fleet right?

[zenith heron]

Yes, especially the Flagship

[sinful escarp]

i see, thanks

[storm heron]

welp we know who's the favorite

we don't even have complete data on 15-3

[atomic abyss]

exactly why im asking

[storm heron]

but surely 2 boss nodes

[atomic abyss]

we noticed this about 3h ago and im trying to fix it now

[viscid swift]

there are 2 boss modes/fleets

[atomic abyss]

and both are zuihou it seems

at least, assuming this is accurate

[storm heron]

huh yeah you're right there's only zuihou

[wind hazel]

they are both zuihou yes

[storm heron]

kinda misleading to put that sprite

[sharp socket]

anyone knows when the force bubble aux skin is likely to get added to cruise shop

[atomic abyss]

btw, would you understand this as 3 separate bosses

if you didnt know it was 3?

[plain saffron]

Nope

[wind hazel]

50-50

[atomic abyss]

i'll edit 15-4 too to make it clearer then

[storm heron]

I mean yeah I understand it because I watch the guides before looking at the wiki

[wind hazel]

i think
zuikaku
wakatsuki and hatsuzuki
zuikaki
would be better

or maybe wakatsuki & hatsuzuki

[stark quiver]

isnt that 15-4 2nd

[wind hazel]

prefer this tho

[sharp socket]

or whatever this rainbow circle/bubble skin is

[storm heron]

I: Zuikaku, 2: Wakatsuki and Hatsuzuki, 3: Zuikaku

[crisp raven]

it seems like that shop is being updated in cruise pass release order. so whenever the bubble was available in order it should appear in the shop. i guess we'll know for sure next pass rotation.

[sharp socket]

hmm alr i heard its pretty old so hopefully its soonish

[crisp raven]

the wiki has a cruise pass page, but i dont know how up to date it is. i havent been on it in a long while

[sharp socket]

[storm heron]

is this normal?

[forest palm]

just very unlucky

[storm heron]

I spent 2.5 hours for this

[forest palm]

welcome to Research be glad you got anything

[sharp socket]

i wouldnt say unlucky cause you got a DR print for it

[atomic abyss]

ahahaha

the wiki formatting is fantastic

it forcibly puts in brackets

[forest palm]

mm jank

[storm heron]

That's much better

[plain saffron]

Now change the template to support multiple bosses

[atomic abyss]

yeah that's prolly the better fix

[plain saffron]

Goodluck with wiki

[final heart]

finally my first retrofit
ty everyone, I might still struggle to spend my oil by now if I hadn't gotten any help

[primal silo]

[pale wing]

Second Retrofit
....her pose is just too—

[storm heron]

[sharp socket]

ok now were starting to offtopic

[storm heron]

alright that is the last post of posting

or maybe not depends on the mods

[atomic abyss]

[atomic abyss]

post such stuff in #al-general pls

@final heartyou too

[atomic abyss]

god this looks so much worse

[plain saffron]

Time to remake the wiki instead

[atomic abyss]

pepehands

[storm heron]

what does spawn order mean?

[bold cove]

Theyre spawn 5 mob first

[atomic abyss]

how many enemies spawn when the map opens
and how many more as it goes by

what mactavish said

[bold cove]

Then 1 at a time, and so on

[plain saffron]

Spawn after each kill/wave

Does that one include the super CV

[atomic abyss]

now to find out which even IS the boss template

[plain saffron]

Have fun

[exotic wren]

ender is fucking around wiki?

[atomic abyss]

i'm pretty sure i've had wiki for longer than most people still active in gph but yes

pah i'll do it later, it's lunch time

[plain saffron]

Ender live in asia?

[stark quiver]

those who know 💀

[gentle gale]

Should i farm for the extra z25 dupe for MLB and save an extra bURin or just use the available 2??

[plain saffron]

He's in my basement??

[wind hazel]

get the extra if you can

[plain saffron]

Always try to get the extra

[exotic wren]

i thought ender is Indo or malay tbf oh sg

[stark quiver]

so we just doxxing ender

[sharp socket]

i was going to cook nakhi fritz yk2 but ender reminded me its lunch so you guys can tell me if that comp sucks or not first

[atomic abyss]

Farm
If you have the time ofc

[hollow gust]

Why use Yorktown without her buff

[atomic abyss]

Imo it's a bit suspect
Because yk2 not getting buffed/buffing someone

[hollow gust]

She won't have eagle buff , nor would she have her aa reduction buff

[atomic abyss]

Unless you're going around US vanguards

[sharp socket]

uhh cause im doing nakhi and not kear

[hollow gust]

And you have to dedicate another Soviet ship for Nahkimov

[forest palm]

sounds messy...

[atomic abyss]

It really does

[viscid swift]

I agree

[atomic abyss]

At least if one of them was enty the comp would be somewhat more stable

Nakhi isn't the main focus in such a comp, yk2 is

[forest palm]

my lazy ass doesn't use more than Imp + Shin + Amagi

[hollow gust]

Nahk Fritz Yorky means you need a Soviet frontline for Nahk buff , 3 eagle frontline for Yorktown , one of them has to have ara and another has to have aa reduction.

[atomic abyss]

Is that even possible

[hollow gust]

No lol

You are either bricking Yorktown or Nahkimov

[sharp socket]

i have tash

[forest palm]

Yorkii really proving the only comp she's good in is when she's saddled with Kears

[viscid swift]

Yorktown 2 needs 2 other EU ships not 3

[sharp socket]

i heard tash was fine so

[viscid swift]

so yes it would be possible but not very good

[sharp socket]

frontline i can do anchorage, someone and tash

[hollow gust]

You really don't want to use a eagle ara that's not kear

[atomic abyss]

So what is this gonna be
Laff2 Stephen?? Tash

That sounds so cursed

[forest palm]

as I said

[sharp socket]

ham2?

[hollow gust]

You can run enterprise Yorktown with laff frontline perfectly fine

[viscid swift]

too frail for most things

[hollow gust]

Just dump one of the other UR CVs

[atomic abyss]

Well ham2 over Stephen but ye it wouldn't make much diff

Enty over Nakhi if slow isn't needed

If slow is needed you sac Rumey

[viscid swift]

unironically probably just use battleships at your point

[atomic abyss]

That reminds me tho
Fuck I might need to rush Kears now

[viscid swift]

easier and cheaper to gear, and more competitive on light and medium armor

[forest palm]

we are getting close to Implacable rerun

give it like 3 months

[atomic abyss]

My kears is only like d15

[viscid swift]

good luck

[sharp socket]

well i have 2 fleets of rainbow spam and im looking for a third

[atomic abyss]

The answer is don't blindly rainbow bunga

[stark quiver]

why u need a third

[sharp socket]

why not

[viscid swift]

well of those 2 are doing fine why bother with a 3rd

resources, effectiveness, etc

[sharp socket]

i have mats to build stuff

[exotic wren]

~~ I had 4, it didn't work as well as I thought it would~~

[stark quiver]

if u dont have a good fleet for third then js dont
just shove URs and xfleet

[atomic abyss]

If you're gonna make another one, make it a good one

[hollow gust]

Yorktown Enterprise Nahkimov Laffey Aurora Tashkent

[viscid swift]

or the lack there of

[sharp socket]

my w15 is pretty much fully invested now so i have nothing else to chuck resources at

[atomic abyss]

The team building is the issue with your comp here

[hollow gust]

The nicest thing about kearsarge is she has all the utility Yorktown wants

[atomic abyss]

Not the ships themselves

[stark quiver]

when we getting catchup for pr6

[forest palm]

soon ™️

[hollow gust]

Although even this should beat BBs on light ,CV diff is real

[viscid swift]

about a month probably

[sharp socket]

so you're telling me the next 3 URs i was looking forward to build because people say theyre really strong dont work together

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[forest palm]

[atomic abyss]

Synergy is more important than unga bunga rainbow

[sharp socket]

and i need someone else completely different for it to work

[eternal moth]

In a fleet of Eugen/Helena/Nimi/Riche/Sara/Uni, who would you prioritize for aug, Sara?

[stark quiver]

ima just work on kear after yk2 rerun

[slow fox]

Eugen

[atomic abyss]

Sara with no contest

[viscid swift]

well her's is the only unique aug worth bothering with of those

[forest palm]

you can do Rainbow Unga in ops for anything that isn't Arbiter

[atomic abyss]

Let's put it this way
Based on how things are likely going to pan out

This is what we expect for the "best" CV comps

Anti light: Kears Yk2 Nakhi/Enty
Anti med: Soyuz Nakhi Rumey
Anti heavy: Amagi Nano Impla/Haku

Obviously, there is an issue
That is the overlap of nakhi

[stark quiver]

so js enty all the way
maybe throw in eld idk

[sharp socket]

yeah i have anti med sorted in the form of BBs

[viscid swift]

I just assemble one fleet based on Harbiter each month

[atomic abyss]

In my opinion

[stark quiver]

i throw my ijn tb fleet at everything and they all die so i dont need a lot of differnet fleets for purposes,
granted i use all 2-4 fleets for harby

[atomic abyss]

The med comp is the most discardable assuming best in slot gear is available

Soyuz is part of the best BB comp after all

Tho admittedly you could always replace her and run Bis2 Als Vanny

[sharp socket]

that was why i wasnt gonna use soyuz

[viscid swift]

I don't even think this is even how we should be looking at what fleets to keep on "standby"

[atomic abyss]

Yeah it isn't

[sharp socket]

so that i can run soyuz alsace sushi for med/heavy

[atomic abyss]

This is best