gameplay-help

[wind hazel]

treat her as dps with support

[jaunty vault]

ig reinstalling is your only option
no need to go to bug reports they'll ask you to reinstall too
probably

[tropic tusk]

Oh ok

[strange sphinx]

mm well it can help if you getting bored I guess

also what W are you farming?

[rain hearth]

@atomic abyss
someone is joking
is it not a problem now
cause it isn't me

[patent raft]

Gotta unlock siren operation

[quiet trellis]

So report it if reinstall doesn't work?

[jaunty vault]

sure

[inland shoal]

Pls take your blogging elsewhere it takes up a lot of space

[viscid swift]

about that, if we really wanted to get into the weeds one would be better than the other but the difference isn't that big

[jaunty vault]

the chance of reinstall not working is really slim

[patent raft]

Ok...

[atomic abyss]

Dude. What other people do is irrelevant to you.

[atomic abyss]

Last warning to YOU now

[quiet trellis]

I'm just trying to cover each avenue so I have the next steps ready aha. That way I don't have to keep bothering you

[jaunty vault]

i only said it as last option cause the amount of data to be downloaded is huge and it can be a pain in the ass

[atomic abyss]

Thorin already told the guy to stop

[soft raft]

Thorin literally just told that guy to stop so whatever point you're trying to make here is moot

[strange sphinx]

[rain hearth]

i didn't do anything to deserve it this time
you are abusing it

[viscid swift]

we also have a patch dorpping in about 13 hours so keep that in mind

[quiet trellis]

No no I understand. Again, I just want to try every option before reporting it

[strange sphinx]

I just blocked so I can't really can't see anything soooo

[atomic abyss]

you are, by literally arguing with me when i told you to stop and move on

[viscid swift]

not that I've checked for a bit but I'd prefer Zwei because of Musashi's somewhat finicky timings

but if both of them are in the same fleet Musashi gets flag

[wind hazel]

anyone cooked up tentative lv15 Maihou yet?

[strange sphinx]

Is there a Lv15 Maihou Fleet

[patent raft]

Sorry for post that image mod... My apologies

[wind hazel]

bro 🤝

[strange sphinx]

oh... I thought Mori cooked something?

[viscid swift]

Shinano, Amagi Nahkimov, Mogador, Kazagumo, Unzen for now

[wind hazel]

i don't cook. i'm the diner. aka i copy homework

[viscid swift]

it can do it but not very consistent

[jaunty vault]

well if it doesn't work and you resort to reporting, make a Belfast bot ticket using !submit command in bot spam

[tropic tusk]

Dais means the right side right?

[wind hazel]

nakhimov interesting

[viscid swift]

no point cooking too hard right now though with Fritz dropping soon

[sweet delta]

Seriously? STAAGs are enough to keep concealment?

[eternal moth]

I don't remember, does Tower of Transcendance have subs?

[quiet trellis]

Ok! Will do

[strange sphinx]

Can I replace Kaza with Shima?

[tropic tusk]

Whts fritz

[jaunty vault]

every event does, so it should too

[wind hazel]

true. nugget didn't get cook til amagi CV was ready too

[viscid swift]

new UR CV

[soft raft]

They do completely different things
Kaza is CV Buff utility while Shima is just torp DPS

[tropic tusk]

Oh nice nice

[strange sphinx]

hmmm I thought kaza is torp dps because I saw two UR torp aux

[tropic tusk]

Wht class is the other Ur or we don't know yet

[wind hazel]

any hacker simulator tested if unzen tank can survive the vanguard pressure on Lv15?

[viscid swift]

Z52 is a DD

[strange sphinx]

[tropic tusk]

Nice nice

[soft raft]

they're prob just padding out her stats since from what I've heard, vanguard pressure isnt too high

[viscid swift]

so far it isn't, Mogador main tanking is surviving to the end on 14 quite comfortably

it's just an issue of right now being able to consistently deal enough damage

[strange sphinx]

is there any ARA ships that I might have cause if none.... I might use Sirius..

[soft raft]

ngl im kinda surprised there isnt any compes with Haku but at the same time, not surprised that the cat is that pog

[eternal moth]

Kaza has pretty good stats, so if she doesn't need survivability you can use oxy torps on her to increase her damage a decent amount. That said, it's more important for her to stay alive.

[strange sphinx]

[sweet delta]

Kaza is low DPS like most ships, but free damage is free damage

[soft raft]

Stephen Potter, Ariake(iirc that's how you spell it), Bellona to name a few

[eternal moth]

It's Ariake, yeah

You can get her from Limited Ships in guild shop

[strange sphinx]

yeah, I don't have enough time to level her up even with the books

[tropic tusk]

Should I blueprint research Kearsarge or pr7 russian plane first?

[strange sphinx]

also any replacement with La 9 and the Pr7 Gold Airplane?

[sweet delta]

Flapjack and any other convTB

[stark quiver]

i have enough gold plates to +13 just one la9, should i do it now or wait until maybe third tenrai/the hvars

[slow fox]

Is there a way to convert them into general plates? You should +13 rudders instead.

[stark quiver]

i already did

not enough +13 rudders, but a few

[slow fox]

:mutsukismh:

[stark quiver]

new player, dont have resources

[patent raft]

Should i use medal for gacha draw or save for buy some in the supply store?

[inland shoal]

I'd go for PR5 first

Do not do the requisition builds

[patent raft]

Right.

If i have large amount of cube, i should probably keep research that cost at least 6 cube right?

[quiet trellis]

@jaunty vault wooo, it worked

[stark quiver]

the D ULs are generally fine to take if you have a large pool of cubes
but cubing a season , eh, unless you have like 1200-1800 cubes i wouldnt
tho taking the occasional 3 cube research cuz of bad rolls are fine

[patent raft]

Ok.

[inland shoal]

In general 2h and 4h cube researches should be avoided

[eternal moth]

I guess I need to start leveling some new destroyers. Tower of Transcendence has a requirement of 1100 TRP, and DC is like 850, and that's not even getting into D stages

[patent raft]

Yea. Just to make sure not waste alot of time research like 8h dawg

[eternal moth]

That's definitely the big disadvantage of the recommended beginner fleet

[patent raft]

Mhm

Adios

[jaunty vault]

[tropic tusk]

Ok

[jaunty vault]

spearfish doesn't have passive intercept, does it?

[boreal wagon]

it does not

[sweet delta]

Larsdb says it doesn't have wifi

[boreal wagon]

wifi is converging vs non converging tho

cooper asked about intercept

[jaunty vault]

whats wifi

[boreal wagon]

the way i display converging

[stone sluice]

How many cubes you have?
We have an event that starts tomorrow.
Yorktown II rerun comes on January the 9th.
And (prolly) we have a new UR on February

[jaunty vault]

[patent raft]

100

[jaunty vault]

huh york2 event date got confirmed?

btw I have 25 cubes

also just noticed that event faq got hidden

[stone sluice]

It was mentioned during the stream, from 9th to 16th

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

can you point me to a time stamp of when they said this

[tropic tusk]

400cube for pity hope U can get it before pity

[viscid swift]

and I need to get someone else to confirm it

[atomic abyss]

all i remember is say that there will be SOMETHING going on in jan

they did not specify yk2 event specifically

[narrow ibex]

Is York2 or nakhimov better

[tropic tusk]

#gameplay-help message

[atomic abyss]

it's a reasonable assumption, but that's all it is

[viscid swift]

what

[spring bolt]

can confirm, that they didn't confirm anything after the new event

[tropic tusk]

I thought U ask for time

[undone plover]

Next week patch notes should confirm if it is 9th in the upcoming news section

[tropic tusk]

Oh U mean york2 on Jan. mbmb

[atomic abyss]

you use them togther with kearsage

[hollow gust]

Those two don't really compete with each other

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt really call 1 better than the other when they have different roles

[narrow ibex]

I don't have any of those three. Was just trying to decide if I should save cubes and not pull for York 2 rerun

[hollow gust]

You always pull UR events

[soft raft]

plus reruns have free build tickets

[atomic abyss]

you're given 40+ build tickets for reruns anyways

[hollow gust]

Even powercreeped URs are leagues better

[boreal wagon]

this is mtl'ed live captions so take this with a grain of salt but apparently they said this during the time they talked about PSI at roughly 1 hour 41 mins

[stone sluice]

They mentioned on the stream from 1:41:20 イベントですねえ積み重なる事象の限界が軽量復刻の予定をしておりますえこちら

開催期間はですね来年1月9日のメンテナンス後から1月16日メンテナンスまでなっておりますさらにまだございますこちらご覧ください (you can translate it on Google)

[viscid swift]

I mean it seems right, just need to get someone who understands JP to confirm it

[boreal wagon]

u can probably ask nnt

[tropic tusk]

How come U guys got to love ru tags?

[soft raft]

someone give me the timestamped link and I can go ask one of my freinds

[hollow gust]

Cause they didn't remove it yet

[spring bolt]

should be it

[viscid swift]

right there

[tropic tusk]

How do one get it

[fair lance]

Was only during collab

[tropic tusk]

[boreal wagon]

in case u want the actual timestampped url https://www.youtube.com/live/atR1WfJzBro?si=MadaogLQ2miCoLMJ&t=6075

[stark quiver]

are bidders low prio for +13

[cobalt rapids]

lower than surface torps

[hollow gust]

You get so much torp you can basically max everything you want

[stone sluice]

Save some for the improved quads we get tomorrow

[soft raft]

Ok he got back to me and said yes it is

[viscid swift]

well rip newer players then

[atomic abyss]

they're gonna be removed soon

[viscid swift]

3 UR events and a collab in 2 months

[tropic tusk]

[undone plover]

Tbf that happened last year as well

[atomic abyss]

just skip collabs

[hollow gust]

Collab a trap every year

[atomic abyss]

im skipping the next AK collab for example

i mean collabs are more of, if you like them roll them otherwise dont bother?

dammit if only they didnt make the collab ships somewhat meta relevant

[tropic tusk]

Wait so york2 or we just know it's UR rerun?

[atomic abyss]

the next UR due for a rerun is yk2

[fair lance]

They showed york2

[tropic tusk]

To love ru are usable ships?

[tropic tusk]

Nicee

[atomic abyss]

the golds are actually good ships yes

[tropic tusk]

Rip the purple

[soft raft]

tho this requires their unique augs

[tropic tusk]

Yes this time I got all event augs unlike last year where I just started to play didn't know shit

[undone plover]

Have we ever had a similar event to PSI rerun with gear prints in milestone?
Does it stay or get replaced

[tropic tusk]

Psi is opsi?

[viscid swift]

uhh should be one or two

[cobalt rapids]

Parallel superimposition

[soft raft]

Maybe?
Not sure

[tropic tusk]

Whts that

[viscid swift]

probably not under the new light format now that I think about it

[undone plover]

PSI is york ii event

[tropic tusk]

Oh ok

So by chance they will be available also right?

[viscid swift]

yeah no we haven't

[soft raft]

Rip

[torn salmon]

can i dismantle augment modules?

[atomic abyss]

no, but you can feed them to other augments

[sweet delta]

You can also equip them on ships for more fleet power

[daring jasper]

Do we know if Hipper Meta will be good?

[viscid swift]

no

[atomic abyss]

no because we dont know her skills or stats

[daring jasper]

Damn

But how are generally the metas from the event shop?

[atomic abyss]

past ones have been good as far as golds go, none of them have been meta defining tho

bearn meta can be nice for opsi farming tho
since she has a reduced cd first airstike

[stark quiver]

Nope
We do not know yet

[daring jasper]

I think this event will be an hard farming one for an ur and a meta for full LB

[viscid swift]

not really

[tropic tusk]

U can just grab 1 each and lb them later

[daring jasper]

Even Hipper Meta?

[viscid swift]

META crystals will only be 2k each in the event shop

[tropic tusk]

Wait actually U need the token from event shop for the meta one

[viscid swift]

and the extra Z52 dupe will "only" cost you 24k event points if you get all the vouchers

[tropic tusk]

So pull Ur and get meta and buy all it's shard

Then level them when U free

[boreal wagon]

with the first Z52 costing 0 event currency (bc u get enough from side events/just playing)

[daring jasper]

Well I only farmed max 15k or 18k when there was equipment

Never actually got to over 20k

[viscid swift]

Yeah you might want to change that

[daring jasper]

For this time yeah

[viscid swift]

Not that difficult either

[boreal wagon]

u prolly wanna change that in general considering higher milestones give gold plates

[tropic tusk]

Always aim to farm as much as U can

[viscid swift]

Aim should be about 55k event points every event

[sweet delta]

For every time

[tropic tusk]

Best aim for every event to farm till the last 3-2 drops

Seeing how the last 2 is just skill level up book and other useless things

[daring jasper]

Got those in a long period of time, never spent the too much though

[boreal wagon]

u can never have enough gold plates

[viscid swift]

That's really not a lot at all

[sweet delta]

Not enough for even one

[daring jasper]

Yeah never farmed them

[viscid swift]

Again, might wanna change that

[tropic tusk]

+11 cost 200+

[daring jasper]

Yeah

[vale spindle]

There's universal ones too

you have to scroll down to see them

[tropic tusk]

U only got 400 lvl 1 time already used all

[daring jasper]

Only 33

[vale spindle]

rip

[daring jasper]

They give gold ones in daily battles right?

Probably got those from there

[boreal wagon]

the main source of them is opsi

[viscid swift]

yes but main sources are Operation Siren and the Guild shop

[daring jasper]

Yeah I never really started farming there that's why

[sweet delta]

Over 650 gold plates per month if you do everything not tryhardish

[tropic tusk]

U been playing 2years and U never opsi

[daring jasper]

Nah playing from 5 actually

Started on November of 2018

[tropic tusk]

That's even worse

[daring jasper]

That's actually more than 5

[sweet delta]

People can play how they want

[vale spindle]

so true

[daring jasper]

That's true, I want to farm opsi but never got the time or the opportunity to do so

[jaunty vault]

better change that

[viscid swift]

anyway I don't remember who asked but the first event to have gold plates in Milestone Rewards is the Vacation Lane Rerun from 2023

[boreal wagon]

i asked at one point but it probably wasnt me

[stark quiver]

How long does is usually take to get 480 gold gun plates

[viscid swift]

3 months from my experience roughly

[tropic tusk]

That's a long time

[daring jasper]

Are these good fleets for opsi?

[cobalt rapids]

they arent ment to be spent willy nilly

[tropic tusk]

But U understand the game and for me will be even longer

[sweet delta]

Depends on what plate you focus and how much you do

[cobalt rapids]

it can be much better

[daring jasper]

Yeah they were built moths ago

[cobalt rapids]

open a thread and post ur dock, if u want

[daring jasper]

I have new ships I can put there

[daring jasper]

Got almost 90% of the collection

[stark quiver]

I just do hiddens and dailies, for some reason I don’t have any AP boxes

[daring jasper]

Probably too much

[cobalt rapids]

i wanna see what is limit broken and what dev lvl the research ships are

[daring jasper]

Aight

Fleet

[sweet delta]

According to data from 3 people, you may be able to get like 180 gun or plane per month , whichever you focus

[undone plover]

Enough gold plates for 1 UR gear per 2 months with focus and selectors is reasonable imo

[tropic tusk]

Focus as in the research with cube?

[stark quiver]

No

[undone plover]

As in guild shop for plates since we were talking gold plates

But I should have clarified my bad

[tropic tusk]

Wait but U said Ur gear

[boreal wagon]

he edited it just now, but he meant 1 UR gear worth of gold plates to +13

[tropic tusk]

Oh

[sweet delta]

Oh right there's also selector plates, I did not count them

[stone sluice]

Pressure-Resistant Hull Design.
Moving the sub 8 units forward has some utility? Does that 20% speed boost make a difference?

[cobalt rapids]

moving the sub 8 units forward provides better range and better hitrate sometimes

[stone sluice]

So get one for each fishpack sub, right?

[sweet delta]

Yes, it's required on most subs for bossing with bidder or g7e

[stone sluice]

Thanks

[slender turtle]

Could I get a link to a gear guide? Or at least something that can help me know what gear to put on kitakaze?

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[slender turtle]

Ty

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys any specific gear daisen wants to use? And whats her role in the fleet?

[sweet delta]

Her role is DPS or campaign BB/healer hybrid, use normal gear

[soft raft]

Not really anything too specific unless you want to reverse the order which her red skill applies the burn and fires the barrage (In which case give her a Sakura AA gun)

and realistically her role is to be benched as tech fodder (+2 BB FP)

[sweet delta]

DPS as in top3 gold BB dps

[trim sparrow]

Copy, thanks

[stark quiver]

would half tech and +13 spam on my cvs be able to kill taihoumeta L15

[jaunty vault]

isn't it a little too early to tell

[cobalt rapids]

it is indeed 1 day early to tell

[sweet delta]

[eager mulch]

[hollow gust]

in 10 hours we will know

[crisp raven]

10 + 8 + extended tm*

[hollow gust]

oh yeah fuck , maint

[forest palm]

gotta wait 18 hours

[hollow birch]

best fleet vs this?

[stark quiver]

3 ijn cv

[hollow birch]

amagi cv, shinano and haku?

also what planes

[stark quiver]

just tbs and whatever syncs, and you need eldridge retro if youre running that

[hollow birch]

tbs?

[stark quiver]

i guess something like this
tb = torpedo bomber

[hollow birch]

who from these 3 deals most damage

[stark quiver]

probably amagi cv

[hollow birch]

and between haku and nano

[stark quiver]

maybe nano

[hollow birch]

even if haku on dev 5

[stark quiver]

dev 5?
dont even use her

[hollow birch]

no no, i meant sim fate 5

[stark quiver]

shinano has better torp bomber slot efficiency
haku has better bomber slot efficiency

[hollow birch]

okay

[boreal wagon]

u know my site has a compact mode right

[slow fox]

Lars spotted

[boreal wagon]

mebot spotted

[stark quiver]

i skipped the tutorial

[boreal wagon]

the tutorial wouldnt have told u that, it wouldve at most told u hey there are settings

[stark quiver]

my opera crashed

[hollow birch]

@stark quiver u got a decent front line for that lineup u gave me

[stark quiver]

something like this

[hollow birch]

i dont have the thing on top

[stark quiver]

what thing

[hollow birch]

this character

[stark quiver]

thats eldridge
would you happen to have her retrofit item
if not
run implacable instead of haku

[hollow birch]

how come

[stark quiver]

because no stopping/slowing skills = torps not hitting

[hollow birch]

then agir maybe?

[stark quiver]

no

[hollow birch]

is this character from pr or pool

[stark quiver]

pvp shop
if you dont have her retrofit item dont get her

[hollow birch]

what does the item look like

any of these?

[boreal wagon]

yes the far right

[hollow birch]

so is she the replacement of Sirius nowadays?

[stark quiver]

no
sirius squishy tho

and the fleet & vanguard should be enough

[queen jackal]

what state do u guys get a meta ship to before u use for tech farm

[stark quiver]

0lb 0 enhance for me, basically a corpse drag,
its better to at least mlb her before using tho

[queen jackal]

yeah i was thinking just mlb and drag

[viscid swift]

as soon as I have a slot free in the fleet

[hollow birch]

what planes on impla then

[stark quiver]

#gameplay-help message

[hollow birch]

@stark quiver actually I was able to one shot it without changing

[stark quiver]

nice

[hollow birch]

like 20-something secs left too

@stark quiver bro haku went crazyy wtf

[dreamy blade]

more like amagi and shinano went crazy on haku

[hollow birch]

wdym

[dreamy blade]

she only does that much bc of their buffs

[hollow birch]

i thought amagi and nano were the DPS

[dreamy blade]

well amagi does a ton of dmg too but her torp buff is crazy, haku is just the selfish one of the 3

[stark quiver]

or only most of hakus torps hit

[dreamy blade]

yeah without a slow/stop it's gonna be up to rng

[hollow birch]

i mean prolly xD she did more than the other 2 combined

oh by the way is there a BB fleet that can do similar damage?

[viscid swift]

no

[dreamy blade]

not vs heavy

[viscid swift]

you're pretty much looking at the premier backline for heavy armor assuming the boss doesn't move

[stark quiver]

tlr collab

[hollow birch]

isnt bismarck's skill like super cool for CC

[hollow gust]

For harby?

[hollow birch]

ye

[hollow gust]

sure? but do you not see the FP debuff? not to mention CVs just do more damage

[hollow birch]

so its just a CV meta? T.T

ok so where do BB fleets shine, like i got so many new ships idk where to utilize

[hollow gust]

Pvp

[hollow birch]

damn that sucks, last time i played pvp was when shimakaze came out

[hollow gust]

Or just oneshot wih BBs, its just a tiny bit harder

[gray kindle]

Any ideas on what to put in the last slots/any replacement ideas? First time seting up for this lmao

[forest palm]

4th fleet ends up being cross fleet

[gray kindle]

Yee that's what I was going for

Sadly don't have soyuz or gwam

[soft raft]

Why Helena META instead of regular Helena?

Also why is Ply in the mob fleet

[earnest crag]

Is there any way to get rid of a leveled up bulin? Because I only wanted one elite and gold bulin for collection purposes but it wont let me limit break it seems like

[stark quiver]

There should a 2 buttons at top right of limit breaking screen
The >1 and the eye icon

[gray kindle]

umm Idk i just put this together as a first try from what I usually do for learning chapters so if there is a better place for ply would love to know 0w0

[quartz jungle]

Unless you have 5 +13 wyverns

[undone plover]

plymouth is the premium BB fleet support
so put her in your triple BB fleet

she is perfect in that empty spot next to agir
and replace helena meta with helena

[gray kindle]

Oh ok got it, any idea what should go in the spot in the mob fleet? Got shimikaze and mogador if either of those fit

[undone plover]

works
can also use any ddg

alsace would be better in bb fleet as well
and put NJ in mob but up to you
with proper gear that fleet kills almost everything anyway

[eager mulch]

unable to put amagi-chan there

[strange sphinx]

[gray kindle]

Ok I'll do that thank you guys

[strange sphinx]

TB BB

Give me skin Karbon

[gray kindle]

i is broke lmao food is expensive

[fathom isle]

How can I tell if I am EU or NA? My appstore is EU, I am currently in America for vacation but I don’t want to accidentally play on NA. Are the server names different or is there a way to check?

[viscid swift]

doesn't matter, all those servers serve everywhere that's not China, Japan, Korea, and Taiwan

[hollow gust]

EN is global

[eager mulch]

If I play my Avrora account in Paris, it is the same Avrora account in Colombia

[fathom isle]

Oh I thought for some reason they would be separated but that’s perfect then, thank you all!

[eternal moth]

If it hasn't already, when does CN maint start?

[forest palm]

soonish

[eternal moth]

What was the best setup for Maihou, I heard something about Soyuz/Nakh/Amagi?

[vale spindle]

jimmy already posted a video of a kill

[eternal moth]

ok, do you have a link to it?

[vale spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkI6itTgkO0

https://fxtwitter.com/kmet12345/status/1869412206468821317 fleet here

[eternal moth]

There must not be any vanguard pressure then, huh?

[vale spindle]

probably not

[weary gust]

Taihoumie is the easiest meta in a while. No gimmicks that change how you deal damage and she doesn't do a whole lot.

[strange sphinx]

Can I use Ryusei instead of that PR 7 DB on Implac?

[vale spindle]

idk

[obsidian ivy]

Am I cooked without mog

[strange sphinx]

also Sam, is this auto or manual?

[eternal moth]

It's a TB, not a DB

[strange sphinx]

Ah yeah Converging tb

[eternal moth]

Also,

[viscid swift]

everything unless said otherwise in this channel is auto

[strange sphinx]

EN moment

[grizzled sundial]

How do one get to lv 15 meta this early ?

[viscid swift]

they're on JP/CN, a few hours ahead of us

[sweet delta]

They get it 24 hours earlier legit, and if they cheat then they could test fleets a week early

[mellow cape]

Update TN?

[viscid swift]

yes

[keen sable]

harvest an ops noob and you can get it two days early

[stark quiver]

Using just the daily oil and 12-1 is around a month a reasonable amount of time to get 16 ships from lvl 1 to 120

[opal stirrup]

Guy I’m looking for a BB/BBV gun that have a good reloading speed, any suggestions?

[spark ridge]

Is there a 6-7h maint in like 4-5h time or something

[stark quiver]

457 fast, but it rly depends on what your doing

[stark quiver]

8 h maint in about 4h 38m

[spark ridge]

Oke ty

[opal stirrup]

If this is what you're talking about, are there other BB gun like this but are more easy to have, like super rare gun?

[hollow gust]

just use twin 410 purple

[wind hazel]

why do you want fast gun

[opal stirrup]

I want to create a sea of fire, quantity over quality

[robust jackal]

Will there be a data mine for the UR event?

[viscid swift]

yes

[robust jackal]

Is there an ETA approximation?

[hollow gust]

give or take 3 hours

[viscid swift]

probably within the next 4 and a half hours but that's just a guess

[stark quiver]

#gameplay-help message

[viscid swift]

Ah the old quanity has a quality of it's own, as if that even makes sense

[stark quiver]

I wouldn’t use it if I were you

[atomic abyss]

The fastest guns will have quantity
But no quality nor sea of fire

Just use the twin 457 or twin 410

[opal stirrup]

Man, you just gave me a great idea for a loadout.

[stark quiver]

Anyways…….a sea of fire that does little damage is worse than a single shot that does a lot of damage, take that as you may

[pseudo saffron]

Is warspite good to retrofit?

[viscid swift]

no

[pseudo saffron]

Should I build Kiev instead?

[viscid swift]

depends on where you are in the game and what options you have but probably not

[echo vector]

Is the new auxillary meant for normal memphis ?

[viscid swift]

yes, not that I would use it on her even

[echo vector]

No

[atomic abyss]

Yes, only she can activate that passive

[stark quiver]

There’s a new aux?

[echo vector]

Got sentimental value

[sweet delta]

Looks like a worse toolkit

Random target too

[echo vector]

Maybe memphis's smell on it will remind skk of her.

[sweet delta]

[blissful hamlet]

Is datamine up now?

[viscid swift]

no

[blissful hamlet]

[stuck beacon]

can this work for early game as a team?

[bold salmon]

is noshiro added in the 3d dorm in this patch?

[nocturne quartz]

Iirc next patch

[sonic hemlock]

No, next patch.

[viscid swift]

probably not, you're gonna run out of gold bullins very fast

[stuck beacon]

gold bullins?

[bold salmon]

thanks

[sonic hemlock]

They had the date on the announcement.

[viscid swift]

keep Lala and use Helena and your starter DD as your other 2 vanguards, and use Ranger or someone over Ceasare META

[viscid swift]

These, you need them to limit break your SRs

[stuck beacon]

so I should use Lala Helena Laffey, Ranger over Meta and the others 2 are fine right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[stuck beacon]

I max them with the proto purple then?

[viscid swift]

yes

[stuck beacon]

I keep this team until? Do i need a 2th team?

[viscid swift]

until world 9 or so though level other ships on the side to meet hard mode stat requirements for the upcoming event

[stuck beacon]

about ranger, is fine if I swap with pennsylvania?

[viscid swift]

you can but why?

[stuck beacon]

[viscid swift]

well Darkness far surpasses her

[stuck beacon]

y but you said to go for ranger, so I was thinking if pennsy was fine too instant of Meta

[viscid swift]

well Ranger being a CV would give you ACV and recon helping reduce damage you take from planes and turn off ambushes

[stuck beacon]

ooh so every role have some impact, nice thank you

this fine then, got it

[eternal moth]

Still too early for datamine I assume?

[viscid swift]

yep

[soft raft]

maybe in like the next hour or two

[eternal moth]

Thanks.

[willow dock]

Who's the chick with the hands?

[fair lance]

Golden darkness

[willow dock]

Who TF is that?

[fair lance]

to love ru collab

[sweet delta]

/wiki darkness

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Darkness_Within_Dawn
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Darkness_Within_Dawn
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Golden_Darkness
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Golden_Darkness/Gallery

Dec 19, 2024, 3:22 AM

[eager mulch]

who is the one with the blue hair

[viscid swift]

St. Louis obviously

[eager mulch]

[proven mist]

Do B. Zwei, sovetsky soyuz and new jersey make a good main team? Or should I replace alsace with anyone among them?

[eager mulch]

depends, and Alsace better than NJ

[proven mist]

Ohh..

This is my fleet right now, I'm trying to clear more difficult content of daily missions like the lv 75 ones, having difficulty bringing the boss down before sinking all front fleet

Thanks for any help or suggestion

[eager mulch]

vanguard doesn’t have a tank

[sweet delta]

Which daily raid

[eager mulch]

non mlb ships are dogshit too

[proven mist]

The module development lv 75 one

[sweet delta]

Yeah just use max ljmit broken ships

[proven mist]

Tank.. I do have portland

[proven mist]

Ohh.. I don't have any limit broken URs..

[faint jacinth]

oh ye where to use twin 457mm gun?

[proven mist]

Unicorn arc royal etc I can use?

[quartz jungle]

What is the signal to noise column mean in eHP chart?

[sweet delta]

/wikipedia signal to noise

Unicorn isn't usually good for bossing

[eager mulch]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal-to-noise_ratio

[sweet delta]

Campaign usually, single bosses sometimes

[quartz jungle]

Higher = better I assume?

[proven mist]

Ahh, I see, who can I put in the bossing team? (Sorry for sending attachments, thanks for helping)

[eager mulch]

i don’t know, im a life science major not a math major

[viscid swift]

do you have any UR Bullins?

[sweet delta]

Where are your UR bulins?

[proven mist]

I have 3

[viscid swift]

how many can you get from the prototype shop

[proven mist]

I can purchase 2 with what I have rn

[wet badge]

Are there leaks yet

[viscid swift]

datamine is not out yet

[wet badge]

Aww

Rumey is a bbv right

[viscid swift]

she's just a CV

[wet badge]

Huh why does she have shelling

[atomic abyss]

So does Saratoga

[wet badge]

Whatt

[atomic abyss]

If you look in game, Saratoga's stat hexagon has shelling too

That doesn't mean she has FP

The stat hexagon is rubbish lol

[viscid swift]

the Lexingtons had 8 inch guns when they were first completed, Fritz is based on a design with a quad 8 inch gun up front so similar vein to that

[eager mulch]

having FP does not instantly mean BBV, just look at bearn and houshou

[sweet delta]

All ships have 5.56mm+ guns

[viscid swift]

well we have a new UR dropping tomorrow so wait but probably limit break Zwei first, this is why your 0 limit break URs are shit

[faint jacinth]

i see thanks

[sweet delta]

Where's the zwei picture

[atomic abyss]

https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1868627133423317490

Says here CV anyways

Azur Lane Official (@AzurLane_EN) on X

✠Fritz Rumey✠

Guten Tag, Commander. I am Rumey. You've surely read my file. Forget the pleasantries – just tell me all the details of our next operation.

KMS Fritz Rumey is preparing to sortie and she will grace your dock in the near future, Commander.

#AzurLane #Yostar

Twitter · Dec 16, 2024, 12:00 PM

[viscid swift]

oh right, I don't have it saved on this device

[spring bolt]

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1012502011356119049?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0
CN datamine

[proven mist]

Wow, I should lb them then.. I was worried of they'll get powercrept sometime soon so wasn't using the bulins...

[viscid swift]

yesssss

[spring bolt]

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1012501633402142728?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0
ship info

[sweet delta]

8 planes yeah

[faint cloud]

8 planes and 1 cl gun

🤔

[viscid swift]

improved quads are not farmable thankfully

[eager mulch]

CL gun?

[faint cloud]

cl/aa gun

[atomic abyss]

Wasn't it a CA gun

[forest palm]

no farmable Improved Quad Mag

[stark quiver]

thankfully

[fallen arch]

Amongst the ones that aren't within the coin-up range, who should I prioritise getting up to lvl 30/fate sim 5 with blueprints?

The question goes for most of the PR ships up to PR6, as I have all of them unlocked, just haven't figured out who I want to focus hard on maxing.

[viscid swift]

hmm interesting

[atomic abyss]

FdG, and Anchorage first
Then the rest of DR4
Then PR5

[woeful pasture]

Is there a guide that speaks about what to buy with irl money?

[fallen arch]

Anchorage is already maxed for me, but I see

[stark quiver]

she has a slow very interesting

[fallen arch]

hmmm

[viscid swift]

8 La-9s on one ship is interesting

[atomic abyss]

Well support fleet powercreep is nice too

[stark quiver]

say what now

[sweet delta]

Basically soyuz nakhi fritz for medium, if you have 3+ la9

Or even 2 la9

[viscid swift]

Z-52 doesn't look too interesting right now

[tidal meteor]

Anyways no new plane accompanying Rumey means

[atomic abyss]

So people can skip yk2

[fallen arch]

god I can't wait for that rerun, my ultra casual dumb ass never got the plane when the original event took place lol

[calm rose]

Her s3 means she can return to concealed state 3 times?

[viscid swift]

actually gimme one sec to cook up something a little cursed

[stark quiver]

rumey powercreep yk2?

[eager mulch]

[atomic abyss]

For med at least
For light nah

[eager mulch]

more W15 power creep

[atomic abyss]

Kears yk2 still probably superior

[sweet delta]

She has crossfleet that's already better than laffii and mog

[atomic abyss]

On a side note

Duisburg has a 0 ammo skill

And she can fucking summon the ornithopter from dune it seems

Why? I don't know

[hollow gust]

8 fighters is funny asf

[rough vale]

when maint

[atomic abyss]

Z52 has a flag cover skill

[stark quiver]

Like 3h

[sharp socket]

i heard 8 fighters is this true guys

[vagrant panther]

Does it make any sense to farm 12-4 over 12-1 for gold ships to get more medals? Or stick to 12-1 for best oil -exp ratio

[atomic abyss]

You farm 12-4 to get more coins

[sweet delta]

Z52 gives 5% main fleet damage

[sharp socket]

are they good efficiency fighters or mid efficiency

[eager mulch]

Is Rumey slot 3 CL/AA guns only?

[atomic abyss]

140%

[stark quiver]

This sounds like a I hope z52 is ass so I don’t need to use more bulins situations

[sharp socket]

x8?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

2nd slot is a flex slot

[sharp socket]

holy hell

[eager mulch]

4x140 fighters
4x140 flex
1x100 Cl gun/AA gun

[atomic abyss]

She can even go 4 LA-9 4 Skyraider

I'm not sure if that's better admittedly

[viscid swift]

against medium no

[atomic abyss]

1 skyraider for yk2
And there's still rum for rumey

[hollow gust]

just use her a 3rd for nahkimov fleet

[atomic abyss]

But yes z52 has flagship cover

[sharp socket]

whats flagship cover

[eager mulch]

Damage resist for flagship

[atomic abyss]

Her crossfleet is also on 25s timer
So it desyncs with other crossfleets

[sharp socket]

that sounds good

[stark quiver]

Does rumeys and nakhs slow stack

[eager mulch]

they should

[sharp socket]

wait she has a slow too wtf

[atomic abyss]

Duration extends, potency does not

60% slow is the same as eld and ark

[stark quiver]

And if they stack, doesn’t it completely stop the enemy

[eager mulch]

no

[wet badge]

Is rumey bad from the leaks

[viscid swift]

Duisburg if anyone cares

[eager mulch]

slows stack but are capped to a certain point

[stark quiver]

[viscid swift]

they're literally not leaks

[hollow gust]

slows are capped at 80% , there is no such thing as 100% slow

[wind hazel]

FP+2?

[wet badge]

Datamines mb

[sweet delta]

They leaked game code

[forest palm]

so build 2 Fritz for world 15

[wet badge]

Can slows stack

[atomic abyss]

Scroll up

[hollow gust]

oh yeah fritz is the new best support cv lmao

[wet badge]

O im blind

[stark quiver]

So how would a nakh,soy,rumey fleet look for med, gear

[gusty olive]

New CV have slow?

[hollow gust]

she has 8 fighters with 140% eff

[wet badge]

How do i know the time to load for cvs

[plain saffron]

1 new gear right?

[viscid swift]

so here's the new tech
Fritz: +1 CV HP and +2 CV AVI
Z-52: +1 DD HP and +1 DD FP
Duisburg: +1 CL HP and +2 CL FP
Z9: +1 DD HP and +1 DD FP
Z11: +1 DD HP and +1 DD FP

[plain saffron]

is it even new

[stark quiver]

Isn’t the gear just imp quad, or is there more

[hollow gust]

no new gear, the enhanced torp is from daycare event

[atomic abyss]

Probably 4 LA-9s
Soyuz gun

[south sequoia]

What,
Fritz can clear detection 3 times in 1 battle???

[eager mulch]

conditionally yes

[stark quiver]

Even more time in pr7 sweet

[atomic abyss]

0 BB rld tech

Rumey rld seems to be high?

[hollow gust]

just 460

[stark quiver]

Also does soy wanna fire before nakh

[atomic abyss]

Nope
Doesn't have to

Nakh only checks for the slow after 1.5s from her airstrike

[stark quiver]

So as long as they’re close it’s fine

[atomic abyss]

So as long as soyuz's slow is active at that 1.5s it's fine

[wind hazel]

so it sounds like we aint gonna use new UR for maihoe

[atomic abyss]

Oh absolutely not

[vestal glen]

does anyone know how good rumey gonna be?

[atomic abyss]

IJNs have had heavy covered for a long time

[wind hazel]

new UR already obselete

[eager mulch]

UR levels of good

[atomic abyss]

Where amongst the URs no one knows for sure

[viscid swift]

however good 8 La-9s is

[eager mulch]

8 La-9s and a ply gun

[forest palm]

sounds so goofy

[gusty olive]

Damn... guess Ark ain't replacing itself on my Shinano AmagiCV fleet lol

[forest palm]

she doesn't convert FP into AVI, right?

[atomic abyss]

Get AvP lol

Also, rumey's slow is equal to ark anyways

[gusty olive]

Have her but in a Light focused fleet (the fleet where my META backline ship used to be)

[hollow gust]

AVP wont fix damage problems

[eager mulch]

fr though is Rumey slot 3 CL/AA gun only or is there something lost in translation

[atomic abyss]

It seems to be

[viscid swift]

from the data mine that appears to be the case

[atomic abyss]

Just wait for Sam/nagami's datamine

[gusty olive]

Rumey can still fit on Shinano and CVmagi?

[viscid swift]

she's +2 AVI either way though so that's good enough for me

[atomic abyss]

She has a slow similar to ark
So just replace ark with her?

[stark quiver]

Maybe? Unless the target moves at light speed

[atomic abyss]

Ark still using Elite retro stats anyways

[atomic abyss]

KEKW
Well she has some sort of CL gun buffing skill iirc?

[grizzled sundial]

Any new gear from the leak ?

[hollow gust]

if you want damage improvements just get your haku maked for sakura

[plain saffron]

designed for w15 trust

[atomic abyss]

They announced no new gear to begin with

[viscid swift]

one it's not a leak, two no

[stark quiver]

Devs finally hearing our cries

[hollow gust]

perm stick her to support fleet

[viscid swift]

and no improved quad mags are not farmable

[grizzled sundial]

Hmm , what plane for fritz , 2 rocket fighter ?

[forest palm]

just build 2 Fritz simple

[soft raft]

wait a sec
is this the first CV with a AA mount?
cuz before that was only for CVLs

[elfin hollow]

Oil saved for hvarcat farming

[grizzled sundial]

Houshou

[atomic abyss]

CVL

[elfin hollow]

Houshou is CVL

[grizzled sundial]

Oh that is an AA gun

[sharp socket]

so fritz's suicide boat killing abilities gonna be shit or

[grizzled sundial]

Depend on what you put on her i guess

[atomic abyss]

Why do you need her to kill suicide boats

[sharp socket]

its just 1x100% mount

[grizzled sundial]

Her skill extend the range of CL gun

[viscid swift]

well just one CL gun and CA gun so

[queen jackal]

whats the most time efficient arcade game to do

[sharp socket]

for w15

[hollow gust]

shooting gallery

[hollow gust]

then use a BB

[obsidian ivy]

So I guess I'm still uncapping Soyuz first

[obsidian ivy]

Then maybe the DD

[atomic abyss]

100% CL gun is worse than Hood even

[forest palm]

Twin 406 SKC 🚮

[atomic abyss]

Hood is 3x 150% DD guns

[hollow gust]

for shooting gallery u can just spam button, pretty easy to get full points

[sweet delta]

CL gun = -45 AVI

[verbal mulch]

Oh my gosh! Drops like this are totally going to get me to return the the game

[viscid swift]

3 x 180% with augment

hold your horses, Yorktown 2 reruns on January 9th

[forest palm]

that it does

[soft raft]

2nd sky raider

[hollow gust]

those drops all manage to be shit or mid asf

[uneven cave]

more hvar farming

[sharp socket]

there is also a BB, just wondering if its better to put AA gun or CL gun if she can kill boats

[atomic abyss]

Celerio
You're asking about w15
Surely the answer is obvious?

Sure 100% AA gun isn't gonna do much
But it's literally another AA gun

It means you can shoot at an additional plane

[hollow gust]

there is absolutely no reason suicide boats should slip past your UR BB

[sharp socket]

she has many fighters

[viscid swift]

nah, +10 hit is where it's at

[atomic abyss]

And w15 has many planes

[eager mulch]

+15 fp AA gun tech

[atomic abyss]

100% eff CL gun isn't gonna do jack shit unless they hyper buffed it extremely

[opaque gate]

is VH armor plating good for prinz eugen? if yes, repair toolbox + washing machkne, or washing machine + vh, or vh + repair?

[viscid swift]

Turtle your genius astounds me sometimes

[sweet delta]

They literally do slip past UR BBs

[atomic abyss]

Eugen can't use VH

[eager mulch]

if only we could put timed fuze on rumey

[opaque gate]

oh fuck, so only for azuma

[sharp socket]

so basically you couldve just said use AA gun

[stark quiver]

It’s announced?

[soft raft]

Even if Eugen could use VH, VH is too niche for any of the CBs to use

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

during the stream they confirmed the date

[opaque gate]

rip didnt check, wasted 800 proto lol

[viscid swift]

a lot of us just missed it

[atomic abyss]

I did

1 more AA gun means 1 more plane you can shoot at

[soft raft]

Yup
Date was mentioned during stream and I got a friend who's Japanese to confirm it

[viscid swift]

9th to the 16th

[stark quiver]

Very nice, right when classes start again for me 💀

[eager mulch]

same

[wind hazel]

please fix the droprate bug it would be so funny

[viscid swift]

would be even funnier if they removed the prints from milestone rewards

[opaque gate]

advanced sonar good for W14?

[viscid swift]

no

[signal mantle]

finally can grind another hvarcat, should save oil then

[viscid swift]

it's never good

[eager mulch]

good to scrap

[opaque gate]

can somebody help me build my fleet for W14?

[eager mulch]

🧵

[viscid swift]

sure, start a thread and post your dock

[wet badge]

Can i go triple carriers w rumey and not worry about suicide boats

[viscid swift]

no

[opaque gate]

W14 Fleet

[stark quiver]

Wait hold up is 70k oil enough with bugged rates

[eager mulch]

for

it’s possible you get 0 prints with 70k oil

highly unlikely but possible

[stark quiver]

Hopefully not

[plain saffron]

skill 2 says CA gun but she can't equip CA gun, what do

[quartz jungle]

I have 170k in the mail, ig time to use it then

[eager mulch]

nagami how long until datamine link
I wanna go to bed

[plain saffron]

ask sam

[eager mulch]

ghost gun or mistranslation, take you pick

[plain saffron]

i done my job already

[eager mulch]

is your job watch vtuber

[plain saffron]

that's job that will never end but yes

i think it's the ghost gun yeah

[viscid swift]

I think it's a "ghost" gun

[plain saffron]

index 4 usually ghost gun

[eager mulch]

ghosts are spooky

[faint cloud]

IF equips a cl gun, then...; HAS a ghost ca gun, if...

[plain saffron]

no the ghost gun always exist for MLB

so if you use CL, both proc

wait is it

prob nope, or yes

i trust myself and say both

[eternal moth]

Yeah, it reads to me like if you have her equipped with a CL gun, she gets a CA gun as well.

[faint cloud]

it's two seperate sentences

[plain saffron]

she always have CA gun regardless, so the 2nd buff always active. idk why it worded weirdly

unless non MLB i guess

[eager mulch]

you’re MLB

[plain saffron]

i think i need to recheck this

[faint cloud]

didn't see anything says she doesn't have ca gun w/o mlb

[plain saffron]

yeah i'm right
except the ghost CA gun is actually type 2(CL) and it also check type 2 what

she have on all LB yeah

[vale spindle]

What ship should I get from the New Year's Invitation 2025?

1. If you are missing multiple ships from this list, choose waifu, or someone who fills a role that you are lacking. Here is a description of all the ships, for reference:

• Graf Zeppelin - Good mobbing-oriented CV with KMS support. but can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options. Mainly for tech points.
• Belfast* - Mediocre damage-oriented CL that has a decent combination of damage and survivability. Collection only. Has unique augment.
• South Dakota* - Very mediocre to bad off-flag oriented BB. Collection only. Has unique augment.
• Formidable - Good support CV with a timestop that freezes enemies, alongside with good damage, but can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options.
• Noshiro* - Good tank-oriented CL with torpedo buffs to the Vanguard Fleet. Can be a sidegrade to other easily accessible options.
• Bismarck* - Mediocre support-oriented BB best used in KMS fleets. Collection only. Mainly for tech points.
• Richelieu - Good flagship-oriented BB with a preload and good barrages. Also buffs FFNF/MNF ships within the same fleet. Can be a sidegrade/downgrade to other easily accessible options. Mainly for tech points.

*These ships are available in permanent sources, so they have lower priority compared to other options available.

• Medal Shop: Belfast (CL), Bismarck (BB)
• Merit Shop: South Dakota
• War Archives: Noshiro (Swirling Cherry Blossoms)

2. If you are missing one of the ships in the ticket, just pick the chosen one.

3. If you have all of the ships above, pick the ship who isn't at max limit break in your dock. That saves a bulin to limit break.

4. If you have all of the ships above at max limit break, either spend it on a ship you already have to save bulins, or save the ticket in your depot for a rainy day, your choice.

made by samheart564

[vale spindle]

ill make the pin pretty later

[slow fox]

Perfect. I can get more amagi cv.

[vale spindle]

thought i removed this oh well

[little tree]

Wow amagi CV!

[atomic abyss]

Btw @slow fox

Hipper meta kit looks really interesting
Could you calc her eHP

[vale spindle]

its supposed to look like this

[eager mulch]

mebot maybe you should take the day off

[atomic abyss]

Yep can confirm this

Skill 2 is broken up into 2 parts

[vale spindle]

devs leaking information to moderators

[little tree]

~~ he is not allowed a day off ~~

[eternal moth]

"if the enemy is affected by gravitational pull, the slow effect is increased to 60%." So she's designed to work with Bis2?

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I just saw this

Well that's fucking miserable lol

[vale spindle]

i thought it was increased by 60%

[blissful hamlet]

Is datamine up now

[atomic abyss]

To 60%

[vale spindle]

nvm im dum

[atomic abyss]

Would it hurt for you to scroll up 10 messages

[eager mulch]

serenity moment

[gusty olive]

Hmmm

That slow is Rumey right?

[mellow cape]

Mmm so it's like... An IB version of Nakhimov/Soyuz except is Biz/New IB UR?

[gusty olive]

Bruh wtf... We faction fleeting now!?

[eternal moth]

I just said a couple days ago I was hoping for more UR supports; Z52 giving a damage buff to all ships makes me happy

[atomic abyss]

I do wonder if Lala counts to it...

[blissful hamlet]

Wait she get nothing if equip AA gun?

[atomic abyss]

No she still has the CA gun part

[eternal moth]

You still get the 8% damage buff

[opaque gate]

finally reached 1m, any tips to make it one shot?

[blissful hamlet]

Also gravitational pull is zwei black hole?

[opaque gate]

and tbf, radar scan happened once only

[stark quiver]

what fight

[opaque gate]

helena meta

[eager mulch]

use anti-light set up

[stark quiver]

using a ddg instead of ibuki

[eternal moth]

Sushi is terrible in Helmet fights.

[stark quiver]

p sure thats al they have

[atomic abyss]

Why are you using an anti heavy comp against Helena who's light...

Go triple BB

[opaque gate]

they are my best so far

u mean to use musashi, ibuki, nagato?

[atomic abyss]

Ibuki is a CA not a BB

[opaque gate]

i mean izumo**

[atomic abyss]

Use FdG

FdG, Darkness, Indiana etc

[opaque gate]

not yet dev 30, they are what i think my best sk far

[atomic abyss]

Then forget one shotting and just 2 shot

[opaque gate]

ok so basically, triple BB will be better for light

[rose cosmos]

I feel like there too many ur cv and bb

[wind hazel]

arnim and zenker=Z numbers?

[stark quiver]

thats a good thing

[mellow cape]

I wonder how the new UR CV fits in within the meta

[atomic abyss]

She'll kill planes really well

She'll be the new anti med CV

[elfin hollow]

same here

[atomic abyss]

And that's about it

[slow fox]

How does Z52 "obtain" a stack of Heart of Thundering Fire?

[rose cosmos]

Gimme a new premium CL brah

[elfin hollow]

read first skill lol

[atomic abyss]

Firing main gun

[olive geyser]

what does the loggers do?

[blissful hamlet]

Rumey and Nakhimov slow should stacks right?

[slow fox]

That's mark of Thundering Fire, no?

[atomic abyss]

No

There's 2 parts to her s1

[slow fox]

I'm not reading how she gets any stacks of Heart of Thundering Fire.

[atomic abyss]

"Grants this ship the Thunderheart. Every time this ship fires her Main Guns: Thunderheart gains 1 counter.

Every time Thunderheart gains 1 counter: performs a special attack (DMG is based on the skill's level) that inflicts the Thunderseal status on enemies hit.

When the topmost ship in your Main Fleet fires her Main Guns or launches an airstrike: removes all Thunderseal statuses; enemies who had their Thunderseal statuses removed by this effect take more DMG for 10s (this effect does not stack)."

[eternal moth]

It's ghost gear

[slow fox]

Can I get a source for this, senator?

[faint cloud]

that's her mask's name tho

[atomic abyss]

That's going to be in event-faq later

[stark quiver]

no access

[karmic pebble]

where?

[atomic abyss]

later

[slow fox]

:mutsukiillegalimmigration:

[atomic abyss]

It's going to be in event-faq later

[slow fox]

okie dokie

[stark quiver]

:mutsukiguntomebotshead:

[karmic pebble]

oh bet

[slow fox]

Source: I'm not going to give it to you yet

[viscid swift]

Hard to be beat Laffey 2, Kazagumo and Eldridge for Arizona META

[atomic abyss]

All her skills are centered around thunderheart

Wait

Wtf, z52 is AA carry material

[soft raft]

[slow fox]

Depends on her ghost gun.

[little tree]

[slow fox]

I'll put her on the AA chart when done with eHP

[atomic abyss]

Even without it

[eager mulch]

204 dmg, 0.45s rld, 28 range

[opaque gate]

will i lose resources if i retry meta fight?

[eternal moth]

It's going to take quite a bit for her to get that ghost gun, I doubt it's enough to make her a carry

[atomic abyss]

150% eff AA gun
274 AA
Gets 10% AA buff every 3x she fires her guns, capping at 50%

[pseudo saffron]

What skill is priority for Marco Polo?

[atomic abyss]

Her barrage skill first

[fair lance]

A bit of oil

[opaque gate]

i see, but not the dossier card thingy?

[fair lance]

Nope, only used when summing a new one

[atomic abyss]

So that's 411 AA by 20s

And that's BEFORE accounting for the ghost gun

[slow fox]

I'm also assuming she uses the pewpew gun.

[sweet delta]

~~Flagship cover is already AA carry 🍣 ~~

[atomic abyss]

If you give her 100 Kai well

Then it's less than 15s to get the ghost AA + 50% AA buff

[viscid swift]

I mean, we'll see how it works in practice

It's definitely above average but AA carry well

[atomic abyss]

I mean she's at the very least, now the best AA bote the Germans have

[viscid swift]

Might be stretching it a bit

[atomic abyss]

She's definitely better than nurn

[slow fox]

12s every 15s?

[atomic abyss]

3s down time I assume

[slow fox]

:mutsukiassume:

[atomic abyss]

Yep can confirm (at least based on how I understand it)
Every 15s and lasts 12s

So it's a 3s downtime

[atomic abyss]

Btw I asked this cos she has 25% chance to take half damage as a main tank

[slow fox]

Yeah I just averaged it

That's 12.5% DmgRed.

[atomic abyss]

She also has the funni Mainz shield

I have no idea why she has a torp buff tho

[viscid swift]

Only if she isn't main tanking

[atomic abyss]

Honestly z52 looks impressive

[blissful hamlet]

Is Z52 helena killer

[atomic abyss]

At least more than she appears on first glance

[viscid swift]

No

[atomic abyss]

Serenity, where the fuck did that claim come from

[blissful hamlet]

She's plymouth killer

[eternal moth]

I REALLY doubt that

[viscid swift]

5% is not anywhere close to 40% damage debuff

[atomic abyss]

Go make your hot takes in #pvp thanks

[viscid swift]

Just use both lamo

[bold cove]

New CV is a crossfleet and boss fleet?

[charred pollen]

How are the new ships looking

[atomic abyss]

New CV has no crossfleet skill

[wet badge]

Why do i see people not mlbing mog

[viscid swift]

Which is probably what I'm gonna do for my BB fleet

[atomic abyss]

But U-52 has a cross fleet

[wet badge]

Isnt mog rlly good

[atomic abyss]

Not enough UR bulins

[viscid swift]

Lack of bullins

[charred pollen]

At all?

[atomic abyss]

Rainbow good, everything else meh

[eternal moth]

Yes she does

[stark quiver]

i saw that hamaal

[bold cove]

Well i only got 6 bullins if i spend all my cores 😦

[stark quiver]

no bulin/low prio

[wet badge]

Ic

[eternal moth]

It's part of her first skill

[wet badge]

Is she not that good

[viscid swift]

Yes she does

[atomic abyss]

Oh I didn't see that

[charred pollen]

Ok I was about to say, most UR’s nowadays have a cross fleet for something

[atomic abyss]

Frontliners are always lower prio to LB than backliners

[eternal moth]

Wait, Z52 has a crossfleet barrage that triggers on entering combat?

[viscid swift]

Pretty much everyone from this event gives good tech except hipper meta

[stark quiver]

ill be real she doesnt have like a actual "big use" in a lot of situations, well nagatoM, but ships like laff2 and guam are higher prio

[eternal moth]

I wonder how often that's going to actually hit anything

[plain saffron]

low clear time meta?

[viscid swift]

It's 25 seconds in

[atomic abyss]

No, at 25s

[sharp socket]

mipper 106% portland?

[wet badge]

Will z52 be higher prio

[atomic abyss]

^

[wet badge]

Compared to mog

[stark quiver]

i didnt read anything so idk

[atomic abyss]

Personally

It depends on your priorities

[viscid swift]

No clue

[atomic abyss]

To me I believe Z52 will be excellent for w14 and w15

[opaque gate]

will the UR be released later?

[viscid swift]

Give is a chance to use her first

In a few hours

[wet badge]

Aight

[atomic abyss]

But there's no way to know for sure till we test

[opaque gate]

fck no bullins

[eager mulch]

is cheeky reacting to someone making a reaction video

[bold cove]

New CV look not impressive

[eternal moth]

@vale spindle There's an error on Z52's second skill, it triggers after 25 seconds, not on entry.

[atomic abyss]

She's very impressive

[stark quiver]

in around an hour and 37 mins there will be an 8 hour maint

[atomic abyss]

I'm not sure how you saw her as not very impressive

[eager mulch]

what’s your logic

[eternal moth]

Never mind, that was already updated

[atomic abyss]

She's not "the best carrier" but yeah

None of the UR CVs can say they're the "best carrier"

[viscid swift]

8 la9s is good for something

Or 8 HVARs

[slow fox]

Here's AA calcs

[eager mulch]

8 flapjacks

[viscid swift]

Yeah.....

[eternal moth]

She's a support, not necessarily highest damage, but does have a damage buff and slow.

[grizzled sundial]

Only half of sandy ?

[atomic abyss]

2488 is higher than chesh iirc?

[viscid swift]

Flagship cover does kinda make up for it I guess

[atomic abyss]

...comparable to d30 Shimanto

[stark quiver]

8 f2a

[atomic abyss]

And she's already better than Eldridge

[slow fox]

Honestly, not bad. Above 65% of san diego or so has classically been "AA Carry" territory

[atomic abyss]

Yeah I would consider this AA carry territory