gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

Goose, you're literally one of the people that pushed for mog in metato comps precisely for that weird interaction...

[eternal moth]

And for those of us that can't read CN that tells us nothing

[hollow gust]

That changes what? It's still a once in a while interaction. Doesn't make her whole lot revolve around the lunge and stunning everywhere else

[whole crypt]

tldr just use mog

[hollow gust]

She is a decently durable high dps unit that you can use everywhere

[dusk maple]

1st three are tai yuan, an shan, mog respectively. so just use mog.

[hollow gust]

Idk why yall making this so complicated

[atomic abyss]

Light | Med | Heavy | Mob where there's enemies with armour in the ratio of 3:5:2 | Weighted DPS

[fiery swan]

Do you need to own the shipgirl to access secrets

[whole crypt]

mog is still more durable than DDGs for a DPS slot and her buff thingamabob is nice

[quartz jungle]

Tai Yuan
Anshan
Mogador
Chang Chun
Yuudachi
Laffey II

[strange sphinx]

[hollow gust]

Use her when you need a dps

[quartz jungle]

Saint Louis is 5th now for light IIRC

[wide ember]

Is there any generic iron blood fleet for general use ?

[wind hazel]

no

[whole crypt]

this is DDs only anyway

[atomic abyss]

There's no such thing as general use

And not having a healer hurts "ironblood fleets" a lot

[soft raft]

Closest they have is Jade but lol
Lmao even

[whole crypt]

I'm moderately cautious about Saint Louis

[atomic abyss]

The best ironblood fleets are the ones that mix factions
...as always

Well maybe cope that Rumey is a healer

[rain hearth]

where do i look up info on upcoming event
i don't even know name

[wide ember]

[atomic abyss]

Go check the pins in #jp-eoy2024-livestream-discussion

[whole crypt]

just check #jp-eoy2024-livestream-discussion we literally have no more than what's been announced

[hollow gust]

Saint is a load of fun , but she really does need that unzen gun to perform

[atomic abyss]

Well to be fair, suchi did do a clear of w15 with IB fleets

Though he said it required an insane amount of rng and resets

[whole crypt]

keep an eye on https://x.com/AzurLane_EN they haven't posted anything besides Fritz Rumey though

[soft raft]

Not surprised at all lmao
Esp when it struggled a lot already in W14

[atomic abyss]

It struggled with 14?

When FdG is one of the best mob fleet options for 14?

[quartz jungle]

W14 is fine for IB fleet though?

[soft raft]

Idk about Suchi's but Iirc Esdeath had to reset a lot with his

[atomic abyss]

And when Odin has a fucking sonar for some godforsaken reason?

Well Rupprecht is probably better to use over Odin

[dreamy blade]

speaking of which is wakatsuki's asw skill actually good for w14

[humble tapir]

hi guys whats the best 20k merit ship to get?

[viscid swift]

Esdeath did it before UvH released to give you an idea of how long ago it was

[cobalt rapids]

she has an extra ghost depth charger

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[cobalt rapids]

its decent but nothing worth considering

[soft raft]

Eldridge (tho her retrofit item is event limited) and Jeane are basically the only relevant ones from merit

[atomic abyss]

Eldridge if you have her retro item from EN anni
Otherwise... Nothing really?
Maybe kawakaze?

Wait Jeanne was in merit?

[dreamy blade]

duke of york?

[wind hazel]

there's sub from merit

[cobalt rapids]

dork and u37 aswell yea

[wind hazel]

and some tech ship

[cobalt rapids]

jda is only in wa

[soft raft]

Oh nvm

Huh then where TF did I get her then
Prob her rerun idk

[late flame]

or banner

[quartz jungle]

Albacore as well

[viscid swift]

she's also buildable

[strange sphinx]

probably the letter

[dreamy blade]

i pulled her a couple days ago in light

is albacore still good without archerfish and flasher

[atomic abyss]

🚮

[soft raft]

not really

at that point just run wolfpack

[atomic abyss]

Her aug helps her a lot, but she's not good at all without archer and flasher
Archer and flasher are what make fish pack good

[dreamy blade]

my only gold sub is leo

[cobalt rapids]

without archer yes
without flasher no
flasher makes the fishpack

[atomic abyss]

Go buy the ubotes then
1 in medal 1 in merit

And hope 47 or 81 spook you this event

[quartz jungle]

There's also U-556 meta/Leo/Homura IIRC?

[dreamy blade]

who is the medal sub again? i know merit has u37

[cobalt rapids]

96

[dreamy blade]

well cant get either of those

[humble tapir]

oh also which war archives are worth grinding?

[late flame]

none unless you need ib ships

[humble tapir]

and one last thing are oath skins free after you oath the ship?

[wide ember]

Yes

[late flame]

skin is free, ring usually not

[wide ember]

But not all ships have one

[humble tapir]

oh ok

[strange sphinx]

oh well U-556 meta/U-47/U-81 should be decent right?

[wide ember]

You can check if they have one in their skin selections it usually says oath on it

[soft raft]

or just look here
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Oath_Skins

[dreamy blade]

without the 3rd gold uboat would u410 work or would just running leo be better

[quartz jungle]

U-556 Meta/U-47/Leo is better, but yes

[lunar arrow]

Is there the banner image for the next event?

[boreal wagon]

#jp-eoy2024-livestream-discussion

[lunar arrow]

Weird that chat isn't displayed fore

[near cargo]

How to farm gear plating efficiently?

[jade maple]

are there any guide for fast farming of META units like taihou?

[crimson glacier]

Do 2 your own fights and assist 3 others every day

[jade maple]

yea but how can i make atleast do my own fight faster, its kinda grindy for me, it takes a hour atleast

[viscid swift]

farm normally

[spring bolt]

for white/blue/purple ones, just do any oil cap stage, usually ch 12
for gold plates, farm opsi and buy plates from guild shops, just remember to refresh guild shop

[near cargo]

Use request support function

[soft raft]

tho you wont always get help

[sharp socket]

then you need some fleetbuilding help

[rare wyvern]

Is this fine for Scylla, or I'm better off with higher damage stuff ?

(15-1 mob for context)

[jade maple]

ah no actaully im talking about the energy to trigger the boss fight

[hollow gust]

wtf is that torp

[rare wyvern]

FAST TORP

[near cargo]

You need to do opsi for that

[sharp socket]

just run opsi until you get enough daily

[wind hazel]

daily missions should rack it up real fast

[rare wyvern]

So, purple triple 550 ?

[jaunty glade]

How does the second UR in two UR events typically work? do you simply get a UR and copies for playing the event vs building them?

[cobalt rapids]

the 2nd ur is in shop

[wind hazel]

you buy them off the shop

[jaunty glade]

so i take it getting all copies off shop is #1 priority no matter what then eh?

[boreal wagon]

and there is 2 copies of them, one being rather easy to attain the other taking a bit more work

[hollow gust]

use a regular quad mag

[jade maple]

for daily should i do the one with treasure icons?

[wind hazel]

first copy priority, 2nd copy is whether you are desperate for UR bulin or not

[jade maple]

im still kinda new for opsi

[wind hazel]

they are green ! missions

[hollow gust]

also use an actual fast gun,

[boreal wagon]

the first copy also doesnt really conflict with any of the other event shop items, because you usually get enough of the special currency throughout the event

[onyx crystal]

Is joining the guild allows me to get more dock spaces?

[wind hazel]

30 more, yes

unless your guild is pretty newbie too

[wary hawk]

You should do all of your dailies

They are in the daily mission tab

[onyx crystal]

So how can I join?

[wind hazel]

i recommend browsing #1246721562741178410

join active ones

[jade maple]

i actaully do it everyday, i just skip the opsi one

[wary hawk]

No I mean do your daily opsi missions

[dreamy blade]

no it's daily missions within the opsi ui, not those

[dense eagle]

Hi since there's 2 URs now does that mean I need 800 cubes max so I'm cooked if I'm unlucky?

[wary hawk]

There is literally a tab in opsi called daily missions

[dreamy blade]

have you finished the opsi campaign?

[wary hawk]

one is in shop, youll be fine

[dense eagle]

Alr thx

Also is the stream on a loop? The jp one, wanted to check it out to see the new stuff but it's 3 hours long? No way they're doing this for 3 hours straight right?

[inland shoal]

It is in fact 3 hours long

[wary hawk]

Thorin pinned all the relevant info in #jp-eoy2024-livestream-discussion

[inland shoal]

You can go to #jp-eoy2024-livestream-discussion tho for all the important bits in pins

[dense eagle]

Oh ok thanks a lot

[opal stirrup]

I was checking to see her name and accidentally press exchange, can I get a refund

[wary hawk]

Un lucky

[soft raft]

she's at least RLD tech later on
but no, you cant refund

[opal stirrup]

I hope she got personality then

[south sequoia]

Her personality is that she is rld tech

[wary hawk]

Above average personality tbh

[opal stirrup]

I didn't even know that RN existed till today; before that, I only played 4 classic nations.

[vestal glen]

is it just me or all UR dds are from event shop except shima

[viscid swift]

well Eldridge is a retro but yes

[inland shoal]

Special bulin isn't

[strange sphinx]

~~Yuudachi gang ~~

[forest palm]

Eldridge, Yuudachi, and Bulin all marginalized

[gusty olive]

What is Mogadog utility than Shimakaze? Is she alright for a fleet with 3 META BB as a backline?

[hollow gust]

I mean she is a solid dps , there are better ships that does what she does

[gusty olive]

Hmmmmm

[rapid grail]

Yea lol. Can buff Alsace, also is very helpful in certain bossfights where you want her root from her lunge skill to time CV airstrikes.

[wind hazel]

for 3 META BB...

[soft raft]

META as in the faction not Meta as in top tier

[gusty olive]

I have Brest for Alsace... Not Dev30, but does the job.

[noble osprey]

Guys does it make sense that the purple gun is better than the gold? Because it looks so according to the guide im reading

[forest palm]

you'll honestly not use Mog for much of anything unless you know what you're doing

[wind hazel]

left is better

[noble osprey]

Off this guide

[forest palm]

also rooting an enemy with mog takes a lot of effort, and sometimes it doesn't even work properly

[rapid grail]

some purple gears are just as good or even better than gold gears
in this case, the right one is good as poverty option, while the left is good

[wind hazel]

tldr aa gun, all gold>purple

[rapid grail]

Houshou META does a decent job at dying in 12-1. She's lvl 103. What can I do to remedy this situation?

[stark quiver]

We’re getting double UR?

[wind hazel]

use better ships with her

but i dont remember mine dying at all...

are you mono fleeting

[soft raft]

Yup
Fritz Remay is Gacha
Z52 is shop

[rapid grail]

no i wasn't. fleet has 3 others in lvl 100~ and the other 2 in lvl 110~.
boss fleet has nj for crossfleet and the rest are lvl 100-110 shitters.

sometimes she finds herself dying in the last mob fight

[forest palm]

52

[wind hazel]

yeah use better ships 😂

just curious but what are you using

[rapid grail]

so daisen, bayard, algerie meta, kuybyshev & roma aren't that good . noted

[knotty dome]

i have 600 aux plates, i've pretty much got enough of the priority (only 6 catapults but that's enough for now). thinking about upgrading my pvp auxes, fairy magic poster / manjuu / wirbel luft / 533mm mag torp / rainbow torp / pearl / sneaky stealthy prowler / cyanidin support towel.
worth it or just keep saving?

[wind hazel]

my fleet is worse but houshou never died lol

this is more or less what im raising lately, double dd front

the ship you're using should stomp

[viscid swift]

use better gear and stagger better

[rapid grail]

manjuu, pearl, prowler worth upgrading first
wirbel is good, however i'd advocate for at least 1 or 2 boilers to +11. less hp but double the speed, and speed is good in pvp, also only need to use gold plates just once
fmp good if you have soyuz, get at least one blacktorp/533mm magtorp aux to +13
rainbow torp is lower priority atm
cyanidin good but atm i don't see a place for it
source: am pvper, also can use #pvp next time

[stark quiver]

And we getting a second improved quad?

[rapid grail]

Yes we do

[stark quiver]

[lean frigate]

any tips for 14-3 i've been stuck in this stage for so long

[soft raft]

Should be shop gear
but would be funny af if it's farmable

[soft raft]

What do your fleets look like?

[wind hazel]

i can feel that d3 is quad mag prints

[rapid grail]

use hedgehog, asw plane
swap laffey II and shima around, make poi the offtank in mob fleet swap an shan and yuudachi's positions as well in mob fleet
ditch implac and use a good 2nd CV, BB or Odin
because you need the damage for the inevitable out-of-ammo fights
you can get by boss fleet without aquila and is recommended iirc, can use another good BB or CV there instead

[lean frigate]

ight, thx

[viscid swift]

just swap Aquila and Implacable, also what gear are you running

[lean frigate]

these are my current gears i have for them

[soft raft]

Jfc BTD
Why are you using that in W14

[lean frigate]

its the only other plane i have 😭

[strange sphinx]

[soft raft]

Dawg where the fuck are your Helldivers

[bold cove]

Wow, next event gonna be 2 KMS UR?

[strange sphinx]

purple Helldivers to be exact

[soft raft]

Yup
See the pins in #jp-eoy2024-livestream-discussion

[spiral glacier]

can someone help me to build a stage 13 fleet ?

[strange sphinx]

make a thread and post your dock

also gear

[lean frigate]

hol on i can craft some i'll just change them

[soft raft]

you should've had plenty of Helldivers long before you got to W14

[strange sphinx]

[summer cove]

Guys, is New Jersey any better than FdG?

[lean frigate]

i kinda... uh scrapped them a long time ago

[strange sphinx]

[whole crypt]

depends

[soft raft]

Bruh
Why

[whole crypt]

welcome to AL shiny trap

[strange sphinx]

[mellow cape]

Is Z52 the new UR?

[quartz jungle]

1 of 2 yes

[whole crypt]

in shop

[lean frigate]

it was my early months 😔

[soft raft]

Fritz Remay is the new gacha UR
Z52 is the new shop UR

[mellow cape]

Is fritz a CV?

[viscid swift]

yeah could use some work

[strange sphinx]

[mellow cape]

Niceee

[soft raft]

Yes
tho the plan she is based on is more of a BBV hence the gun mount you can spot on her rigging

[mellow cape]

So kinda like kearsarge

[bold cove]

Like kearsage?

[viscid swift]

what

[soft raft]

no in terms of in-game classification
Remay's case is probably gonna be more like the Lexingtons

[strange sphinx]

watch it being like Saratoga

[viscid swift]

that's not a BBV

[whole crypt]

just call her a CV
saying "like BBV" is confusing at this point and we don't have her skills

[reef flume]

I heard someone saying she will have triple DB

[strange sphinx]

[reef flume]

Is that true? Or is it bullshit?

[bold cove]

But at least better than AvP right?

[strange sphinx]

did the datamine already exist?

[whole crypt]

that's based on the plane skins used in the demo, it may not reflect her actual loadout

[reef flume]

Depends what her role will be

[reef flume]

Ooh I see

[soft raft]

we dont know her skills yet
And besides, we've already had "Better AvP" for a while, it's Implacable

[viscid swift]

on the left is Lexington before her 8 inch guns were removed, just forward of the superstructure
right is Kearsarge

[whole crypt]

the data doesn't even exist on any client yet for what it's worth

[strange sphinx]

do you have any picture of Saratoga cause she have barrage also right? or is it in Lexington class?

[bold cove]

Still it Ur, so a must pull

[whole crypt]

pull first think later

[viscid swift]

Lexington and Saratoga both had 8 inch guns when they were commissioned, it was removed during interwar refits though

[bold cove]

Yup, it been so long for a KMS CV

[whole crypt]

because for what it's worth they didn't have any

[reef flume]

My prediction is that she'll do better against light-med armor

Like any Iron Blood UR

[whole crypt]

your prediction literally holds no water and doesn't matter

if you want to speculate with no practical basis #al-general is that way

[rapid grail]

apolgies for offtopic, but was there an oath skin announcement in last strim?

[viscid swift]

no

[strange sphinx]

is KMS Fritz is a mythological Warship?

[whole crypt]

it doesn't belong in mythology but it's not a real ship

[viscid swift]

mythological in the sense whatever she's based on never left the paper

[reef flume]

She is a variant of a ship in wows called Hildebrand

[viscid swift]

uh huh, and where did you get that from

[plain saffron]

paper?

[viscid swift]

this is Hildebrand, an Agir with the rear turret removed for a flight deck

not exactly CV material

[inner delta]

you can go other chat to argue for whatever type it is

[viscid swift]

anyway, she's a CV, that much has been confirmed, nothing more to debate

[reef flume]

I said variant

[inner delta]

i said wait

[atomic abyss]

Well better a ship than no ship

[strange sphinx]

[reef flume]

Real

[rapid grail]

red name has spoken, quick make a question about gameplay

[atomic abyss]

It's not like we can magically come up with ship skills from thin air 🧠

[rapid grail]

daisen gun worth the +13?

[atomic abyss]

Yes if you don't already have a +13 izumo

[reef flume]

Better question:
Alsace>Zwei on light?

[viscid swift]

I'm 50/50 to be honest, these days I don't see myself using Musashi for single target bosses

[rapid grail]

i already have izumo gun at +13

@reef flume
that is true for short fights iirc, in which case biszwei overtakes in longer fights such as challenge mode. also why not use both, they are very good against light

[reef flume]

Real

[rain hearth]

in terms of gameplay...
doesn't fritz look like mainz meta

[viscid swift]

what

[atomic abyss]

She's a carrier
Why would she be like mainz

[whole crypt]

how does that have to do with gameplay

[viscid swift]

that's literally the opposite of gameplay

[rain hearth]

i know but seriously
just look at them side by side

[atomic abyss]

Then I would reconsider

[whole crypt]

#al-general

[atomic abyss]

...then how is that gameplay?

[viscid swift]

my dude, #al-general

[rain hearth]

i mean maybe they will have similar skills in terms of gameplay

[atomic abyss]

No????

Agir looks like Eugen, but Agir doesn't have shields

[rain hearth]

oh ok

[whole crypt]

one is a carrier, one is a light cruiser, they don't even occupy the same role slots

[rain hearth]

wait WHAT

[viscid swift]

literally zero correlation and impossibility when one is a **CL **and another is a CV

not even comparing 2 main fleets or 2 vanguards

[atomic abyss]

Also fukashigi no carte is peak

[rain hearth]

fukashigi no carte
is that a skill?

[viscid swift]

just look it up on google and have a listen

[atomic abyss]

As far as I'm aware, it's just an anime song and not a skill in AL last I checked

[rain hearth]

waaait

[rapid grail]

i can't get over the 3rd girl that's basically screaming in memes

[whole crypt]

admin breaking rules smh

[rain hearth]

yup

[plain saffron]

:laes:

[atomic abyss]

But yes, while there are examples of similar looking ships having similar skills, that's usually because they're sister ships

There are just as many exceptions

Like the aforementioned Agir and Eugen, who even share VAs iirc

[mellow cape]

Do you think 400 cubes into this event will be enough

Noice

[atomic abyss]

Hell, Roon is closer kitwise to Eugen than Agir is to Eugen

400 is enough to guarantee pity after all

[whole crypt]

400 is enough to pity UR
I make no guarantees for other banner ships

[mellow cape]

Oh I didn't realize this event had pity? Some other dude on a different azurelane server told me new UR events didn't have pity lmaooo

[rapid grail]

yea. only needs a roll to get her though
on a serious note, keep at least 400 cubes for ur events, both in first runs and reruns 2 years later. it helps

[mellow cape]

[atomic abyss]

All UR events have pity for the UR ships

[whole crypt]

well tell that dude to get his head checked

[atomic abyss]

The issue is, there isn't pity for anything else

[rain hearth]

and how many coins must i have before it starts
i only have 48k

[atomic abyss]

So if lord rng cucks you, you ain't getting Duisburg

[plain saffron]

uhm ackshually no pity but there's spark

[rapid grail]

it's very rare to basically be forced to get the ur in more than 200 rolls, you'd really have to try for that

@rain hearth 300k coin

[whole crypt]

that depends on how many coins you can farm during event

you only need 300k coin to pity on day 1

[rain hearth]

yh exactly
based on that

[whole crypt]

I'm not about to start debating pity system terminology

[atomic abyss]

Nagami trying to spark a debate smh

[rain hearth]

he he joked!?

[plain saffron]

[whole crypt]

well 300k is how many you'll need to spend across the whole event if you need to pity, can't say for sure how well you can farm during the event

[plain saffron]

||i pity you||

[ember totem]

[atomic abyss]

In any case I have little hope for Duisburg

German CL track record has been pretty bad outside Emden

[rapid grail]

isn't that 90% of all UR event ships

[whole crypt]

I have no hope for this banner because I've been disappointed once again by the cast

[atomic abyss]

Well hopefully she's an AA bote

So the wehraboos have something besides nurnburg

[rain hearth]

which one's Duisburg?

no google results

[atomic abyss]

The one that actually resembles eugen

[viscid swift]

she was just announced a few hours ago

[rain hearth]

i think someone has a type

[stark quiver]

i have no hope for this banner, its IB

[whole crypt]

as if factions matter

[strange sphinx]

[atomic abyss]

The teaser video was pretty interesting tho

[strange sphinx]

it's a UR, Pull

[atomic abyss]

Didn't it show Rumey having 9 of the same planes

[kind needle]

Whats good on Sanrui’s aug?

[whole crypt]

it showed a lot of planes using some standard DB skin, but no idea what the actual number or loadout will be

[atomic abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845349843731873792/1318222835767971890/Screen_Recording_20241216_222619_bilibili.mp4?ex=67618a2f&is=676038af&hm=1fb1e186f32beb93084c1ce1f32bcabd822b0dc1b153ba2ffe341ddbba0727f5&

[whole crypt]

a lot more damage for light armour

[atomic abyss]

it is a very good aug, the issue is her potential is really limited by the best HE CA gun being limited

[whole crypt]

and technically medium too but you probably shouldn't be bother with medium on Saint Louis

[mellow cape]

Oooh her barrage is auto aimed??

[shell willow]

does kiev barrage slow?

[rapid grail]

vid shows 3 bf-109gs, likely from barrage
while 8 white ijn divebombers are launched

[atomic abyss]

no?

[kind needle]

Does the gun from the fool scales good on ply?

[atomic abyss]

otherwise we would use kiev for nakhi

[whole crypt]

it's just a demo display though so we have no idea what the actual loadout will be

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#cl_guns just follow this

[rapid grail]

Yea i have a feeling it'd be dogshit until proven otherwise

[whole crypt]

I mean even if it was flex slots for 9 DB, 9 DB is a dogshit loadout where it matters

[kind needle]

Is two wyverns enough?

[whole crypt]

you'll probably want more but 2 is enough to start considering crafting other rainbow design gear

[kind needle]

I mean I’mma plan to craft a UR AA or smth

[whole crypt]

are you trying to push 13H or 15

[kind needle]

Still W14, struggling at hard arbiters

[whole crypt]

if you're not trying to prepare for the serious plane hells then rainbow AA has basically no priority

[kind needle]

Bcoz my ships are still 115

[bold stream]

Hello ender, I just notice I can use my AvP too. So, I think I will just get shangrila to lv 70 and get her mlb for anchorage tech.

My current CVs will be unicorn, enterprise, AvP and independence.

[atomic abyss]

you will get your srl mlb before avp tho...

[kind needle]

But, if I’m about to push, should I consider getting a UR AA than the UR DD gun?

[atomic abyss]

isnt your avp like, 3* only?

[whole crypt]

UR DD gun is not very high impact overall so yeh

[unkempt mortar]

tierlist hasnt updated since forever soooo
is amagi cv better than shinano or theyre both the same

[kind needle]

Would Harbin guns work?

[whole crypt]

basically the same

[bold stream]

I just need her to lv70 to max mlb her. She is currently just one limit break away from max.

[atomic abyss]

amagi is better

[whole crypt]

harbin guns are fine

[atomic abyss]

tho you'd use them together usually

[atomic abyss]

thats not the only issue
avp is just very meh in campaign
esp without fs5

[kind needle]

I’m still stocking up PR5 researches to build my first ply gun, after building my first plygun, should I move to PR7?
(i’ve alr got my first Hinden gun)

[unkempt mortar]

u wont have space for a bb then if u include unicorn

[undone plover]

Was guam gun showcased in stream last year does anyone recall

[bold stream]

What? Really?

[atomic abyss]

why are you using nano/amagi on mob...
would be the next question then

[whole crypt]

should have been

[atomic abyss]

her damage is mid, and campaign doesnt want you to sync
so freezes are quite meaningless then

[kind needle]

Should I pull for UR dupes in a UR event if I’m on Bulin Drought or no?

[bold stream]

Fs5 is different from MLB?

[viscid swift]

unless you have thousands of cubes no

[atomic abyss]

depends on how close you are to UR pity imo

[undone plover]

Generally no
But if u have a ton of cubes sure

[atomic abyss]

FS5 is an upgrade beyond mlb
needs an additional 165 BP in avp case

[kind needle]

Only have 500 cubes, ig only guaranteed to one

[undone plover]

Then not worth

[atomic abyss]

well

think about it this way

[bold stream]

Can not gold that?

[strange sphinx]

oh no, ender gonna cook

[atomic abyss]

if you're unlucky to the point you hit 190 rolls when you get your first UR copy

might as well spend the extra 20 cubes and get another copy

[undone plover]

Bulin drought is not too bad
Just maximize bulin by not using them on perma UR or UR that is about to rerun

[strange sphinx]

~~Oh yeah do anyone now have Maihou Fleet now? ~~

[atomic abyss]

ofc you can
...for avp case

[viscid swift]

still no

[undone plover]

Still too soon

[kind needle]

Should I try meta showdowns when my ships are around 115 ish?

[forest palm]

comeback in 3 days la

[atomic abyss]

@ocean blaze???

[strange sphinx]

explain yourself or Taste some hammer @ocean blaze

[viscid swift]

spam it seems, doing it in other channels

[kind needle]

Or not recommended?

[wind hazel]

is today Maihou max lv10?

[viscid swift]

yes

[wind hazel]

thanks

[whole crypt]

12 is still a joke as usual

[forest palm]

don't really think there's much to this fight tbh

[kind needle]

What level of ships are optimal in Meta Showdowns, and which ships are usually used rn at Taihou Meta?

[whole crypt]

125

[viscid swift]

just a question of how consistent doing 1.6 million damage is

[undone plover]

She has a lot of HP tho
So might not be that easy

[forest palm]

you can tackle Showdowns whenever you want, they're designed so everyone can get something out of it

[whole crypt]

doesn't she also take damage her spawns do

[wind hazel]

yeah

[viscid swift]

will that be enough though is the question

[whole crypt]

so it's basically a more convoluted Algerie META

[wind hazel]

at least the stray torpedo can hit something lol

[atomic abyss]

why was the guy spamming an ad about free chicken

in thai

[wind hazel]

55555

[soft dagger]

[whole crypt]

they're actually manjuus

[strange sphinx]

[kind needle]

Could I see some fleets of successful Taihou Meta runs?

[bold stream]

Ur pity is at 400 cubes right? I am only at 300 rn.. this is kinda scary...

[viscid swift]

literally no one legally has her at level 15 yet

[cobalt rapids]

no1 has her lv15 rn

[kind needle]

I mean in lvl 9 or 10 ish

Kinda struggling

[cobalt rapids]

focus on improving ur account and just rely on supports to clear ur fights then

[kind needle]

My Agir dies easily

[atomic abyss]

what level and dev level is the agir

[kind needle]

Prob a skill issue 😔

[undone plover]

She is heavy armor
So generally CV with torpedo bombers for example the sakura rainbow CVs are a good option

[kind needle]

118, D30

[viscid swift]

What I've been using

[atomic abyss]

why is nano missing a DB

[cobalt rapids]

unzen can kill her alone at lv9

[viscid swift]

I've been too lazy to actually set up the fleet properly

[kind needle]

My problem is don’t have unzen and didn’t MLB mog yet, I’m using sirius and Ancho

[soft dagger]

its t10 whats the matter

[atomic abyss]

and amagi carrying a wyvern

aah

[viscid swift]

that's her 13-4H loadout

[atomic abyss]

i mean, just aim to 2 shot

[wind hazel]

unzen alone legit killing it under lv10

[kind needle]

Would Haku Nano work in similar ways?

My Amagi CV ain’t Fully Enhanced

[undone plover]

Yes
Give them converging torpedo bombers and a slower/stopper CV for support
That should have no issue for now

Or use triple BB with AP guns

[viscid swift]

well the point is this isn't well set up at all and it's still killing in one cycle still

[kind needle]

If I’m using triple bb, my fleet prob would be Musashi, Alsace, and Soyuz, and my vanguards would be Agir, Plymouth, Helena ig idk if that would work

[soft dagger]

do we know taihou meta plane hp when its t15?

[undone plover]

Should be fine up to level 13 and maybe 14 I think
Try and see

[viscid swift]

if that's half competently geared you should have no issues killing up to this point

[kind needle]

Plymouth still at 110

[undone plover]

Then u are really not in a position to be worrying about one shots
Do your best and ask for support
No shame in it

[kind needle]

Imma use books and prob dorm her, aight imma test it

[undone plover]

Was your amagi MLB?

[kind needle]

But not Max Enchanced

[undone plover]

Then raise her and get her to level 125
She will most likely be BiS this fight

[kind needle]

Aight imma dorm her along with plymouth

[undone plover]

Plymouth kinda wants dev30 as well

[viscid swift]

why are you so far behind on leveling stuff anyway

[undone plover]

So if u are not close dw about her for now

[kind needle]

Plymouth alr D30

[undone plover]

Looks like someone has been using capped ships to farm

Or raising waifu over meta

[kind needle]

I’m lacking HMS vanguards to farm for her, but I have her with 300+ bp, took me 2 months to d30

[undone plover]

Eldridge retro might be another option worth raising if u dont have implacable or nyakhimov ready

[kind needle]

Inactivity

[kind needle]

Don’t have Eldridge and her retro item

Would this work on her? (Just used all of my books on her)

[wide ember]

How long does it take for Eldrige to reapper in the Merit shop is it random or does it have a specific rotation ?

[kind needle]

Iirc, random

[atomic abyss]

random

[cobalt rapids]

level ur ships to at least lv120

ideally ur meta oneshot fleet consists of only lv125s

[undone plover]

Decent overall
Ply wants her own gun but this is second best option

[kind needle]

Aight aight

[kind needle]

Still on progress

Works, I swapped my kear guns to champy ones and musashi to izumo gun

It was my mistake that I putted no auxes on my agir and my bbs so she died easily

[undone plover]

Put helena middle better
And plymouth off tank

[kind needle]

Aight man, imma try when I finished developing and grinding brest and shimanto

[undone plover]

Do u mean cause sandwich plymouth can run off aux neko?

[dusky stream]

Hrm. Is there a chart of coins per oil of 14-4 and 15-4 yet?

[cobalt rapids]

no i mean maybe helena is lv125

[atomic abyss]

not worth is the short answer
because you're using max level ships to grind

[dusky stream]

Yeah I mostly do 12-4 with non max level, 13-4 maybe

[little plinth]

I cleared 13-1 hard a while ago and am trying 13-2 now and the boss node is destroying me... this is the same fleet I used for 13-1, but I'm guessing it might be my equipment? should I run wyverns on shinano and haku? I just get overwhelmed by planes before I can get off more than one set of airstrikes/bb salvos on the actual boss

[atomic abyss]

13-4 would be better in that case

[wind hazel]

i remember there is, and 15-4 is worse than 12-4

[atomic abyss]

give haku and nano fighters
problem solved lol

[undone plover]

There is this chart if u are interested
First column is gold per 10k oil

[cobalt rapids]

make ur acv green

[viscid swift]

yes, you also need moire AA and a proper tank

[little plinth]

ok I figured it'd be a gear issue, ty; it's been so long since i did the chapter 13 nodes that i couldn't remember. and @viscid swift who would be a proper tank? I think my AA is fine on my vanguard, can post equips

[viscid swift]

Bottom is my own fleet for 13-4

[dusky stream]

so hypothetically max level can be a little more coin efficient with 14-4 than 13-4?

[soft dagger]

15-4 is 6.29
14-4 is 7.70

[undone plover]

Very minor if any and PITA to actually farm it
If u want max gold farm 13-4
Ppl farm ch14+ for cog chips

[dusky stream]

I'm cog chip limited too lol

about 2k backlog right now

[undone plover]

Then u might want to farm 14-1 or 13-1

[cobalt rapids]

or 15-1

[little plinth]

fleet 1 mob, 2 is boss?

[viscid swift]

yes but fleet one isn't actually being used as a mob, just stat padding and cross fleet support

[little plinth]

yeah since clearing mode I assume?

[viscid swift]

yes

[whole crypt]

low cost 13-1

[dusky stream]

Is there a chart? Gotta min max coin and chip

[undone plover]

Is 15-1 actually only 5 more chips per 10k oil than 14-1
Cuz if so it is hardly worth

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message this

[undone plover]

Oh wait nvm I am reading the wrong column

[whole crypt]

-4 is better coin -1 is better chip so you going to have to choose

[wide ember]

If we ignore the levels are these 2 good fleets, the first one being the bossing and the 2nd one being the mobbing

[dusky stream]

Thanks. Which column is chip?

[cobalt rapids]

3rd

[undone plover]

Decent tho I prefer FdG for mob

[dusky stream]

Okay thanks. Looks like 15-1 is as good as 12-4 coin wise and has 2.5x cog chips

[cobalt rapids]

yes its berry good but keep in mind at least 3 slots in the fleet are sacced from xp for carries

[whole crypt]

imagine caring about wasting XP when chip capped

[dusky stream]

well max fleet, doesn't matter xp

[undone plover]

Is it doable without musashi neko?

[cobalt rapids]

doable but need higher lvl backline

[wide ember]

Would swapping enterprise with August von Parseval work ?

[undone plover]

Swap zeppy with avp
Keep enty

[wide ember]

[whole crypt]

well 15-1 doesn't need a completely maxed fleet you can still level shit
it's just you don't have a lot of leeway on what you can bring in that'll survive

[viscid swift]

not like 15-1 is really gonna do much to alleviate the cog issues anyway

[cobalt rapids]

you have leeway
they just need lvls depending on their ehp

better than prev chapters

[whole crypt]

just give up and buy chips

[undone plover]

Renhex 15-1 farming guide when

[cobalt rapids]

already done that

[wide ember]

Is that for the darkblue cogs ?

[whole crypt]

honestly when I'm really short I just low cost 13-1

[whole crypt]

no the light blue ones

[undone plover]

No dark blue (array) cant be farmed from maps

[wide ember]

[whole crypt]

you can't farm arrays

[cobalt rapids]

i dont have time for lowcosting strats

[whole crypt]

don't worry too much about arrays, you stop needing them after you're done setting up

[undone plover]

Unless u uncap stuff to 125 randomly

[slow prism]

There'll be plenty of opportunity to get arrays, usually from events and shops.

[whole crypt]

you don't have to level every ship to 125, mainly

[dusky stream]

Fleet is good enough to farm 15-4 so .. figured that out, as long as it doesn't run into too many battleship mobs in a row

[dusky stream]

120 all ships though 😛

[whole crypt]

that's why we're talking about chips

[dusky stream]

Yup.

[cobalt rapids]

here is the ultimate 15-1 farming guide
musashi offlag top unicorn botflag + eldridge tank
fill the rest of the slots with lvling ships
give every1 +13 rainbow aa and good gear
1-2 aa radars on the backline lvling ships for the ooa fight
pump lvls as needed till they dont die every ooa fight

[dusky stream]

lol that's pretty close to my fleet

[undone plover]

Musashi off flag
Is that for the flag bonus?

[whole crypt]

who's flag again in that

[dusky stream]

sushi still 120 though

[undone plover]

The ship u want to raise I assume

[noble osprey]

Guys does this gear drop in the said levels or just their components? Cuz im farming these maps and i get only components

[cobalt rapids]

rn its giulio

[undone plover]

Only BP drops from maps and u can craft when u get enough BP

[pliant acorn]

My fleet is getting destroyed in 15-3 are there like any tips or trick to clean in?

[dusky stream]

asw?

[pliant acorn]

My fleet

[dusky stream]

Yeah you need more asw in mob

[eager mulch]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[whole crypt]

his vanguard is also dying so it's not just ASW

[dusky stream]

give SD the hedgehog, sub eldrich for laffey

[cobalt rapids]

asw looks fine

[dusky stream]

bulges?

[cobalt rapids]

they died on carrier node anyway

[pliant acorn]

Should i level 13 all my pancake plane in mob fleet?

[undone plover]

Maybe aa range or rld issue
Cuz 2 sextuple

[cobalt rapids]

musashi should be moved to mob at least
can you share the link so i dont have to rebuild the fleet from 0

[whole crypt]

is that mob only or boss too

[cobalt rapids]

mob only lol

[keen sable]

+12 wyverns

[whole crypt]

then forget it guess I'll stick to 12-1 for now

[undone plover]

Are you using submarines and cats @pliant acorn

[pliant acorn]

Yes bro

[cobalt rapids]

if my cog rate>xp rate i would worry about that but for now it doesnt

[dusky stream]

+13 the AA?

[undone plover]

Share the fleetbuilder link so neko helps u fix gear a bit

[keen sable]

Boss is there so it's all good...

[viscid swift]

there's more than a few things wrong than just the equip levels

[pliant acorn]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4JgTggGBmaA0ZYEYyICwFYUcWANiPwzwRQHYDEVo81EAiCgEwEMPPGEMBdBYLXQAOCAghYI1HjjKFiSUjSqIoKVGWbtOHbnwG0UORKmjDMOaTALoEwuVnM1oh21oDGbbWz29%2BICmhA2nIKDFtYCFg5e2gaJXIE2kCwN1Y2Ty4ef0CsaFtcPPxU8yRiRGoTR2dqBgQPHR9sgXRqSNDw-Fj8csSyDFhpZPy09kzdbP4UfxAMKGg88lRS7FwerDJ1TZVyOhc04XGJ-WBI6xNkaVW5Ag3laTAkuH2mdMbfAxRzW1I8VQJaKpoDZEEVQkM9nUtBxvL4ZuhAoEOgUwrYwN0%2BvFNkERq9vFkTvBjCYMF8LoQepUEFTYNVdrVRjpPB9BEFAciTFFtp1Mbzhqk8Y0mnwpjNgNB-BKBBL4Tj4ByFcIsFghkknuhXsIhSzWnsFZQeUqVViTeIIOoyfUKFr3s1wGyUTyDbYjarNk8UgdtZNyGK8MJ2WAsPB8MG4ghTGRTIgnLtzFDrd6Tv6XKGQ0gwyZaFH2bHaPGvbbk2ZoDAM%2Bmg%2BnI1m0QQyGpYI9NUm-Eg-ABCaAAOiC7YAplIsGA%2B1ggA

[viscid swift]

probably trying to lethal 3 star

[whole crypt]

well I'm seeing the end of the tunnel so I don't mind lowcosting 13-1

just took a quick look I'm down to my last 50 or so

[dusky stream]

Yeah I have a bunch to go here.

But hey little enty and all that, so a ways behind y'all

[eager mulch]

what

[cobalt rapids]

and dont fight bb nodes

[pliant acorn]

How do i clear the map if idont fight the bb node?

[cobalt rapids]

shimanto should be on sword and bulge aswell actually

[viscid swift]

well first get the map down to safe

[cobalt rapids]

are u trying to 3* it ?

[pliant acorn]

Yeahh

[cobalt rapids]

thats a high hurdle
do what cheeky said and bring it down to safe first

[pliant acorn]

Ohhhh i see

[cobalt rapids]

ull want best of the best for 3* lethal and even then

[silk helm]

is there supposed to be a UR in dec?

[cobalt rapids]

2 of them in like 3 days #jp-eoy2024-livestream-discussion

[pliant acorn]

And how do i end this pest?

[silk helm]

pog!

[eager mulch]

Use the other fleet

[cobalt rapids]

ur boss fleet and ur mob fleet will have to fight the flagships alternatively
check the strat section in /w15

[pliant acorn]

Ohhh i see

Thanks again guys

[dusky stream]

lol I didn't even safe 15-1 yet oops.

[jaunty vault]

me neither, I've got no reason to

[eager mulch]

blue cooper

[sweet delta]

will new event have any event-limited gear besides

[viscid swift]

not that we know of

[atomic abyss]

why the fuck is there a rainbow improved quad emote already

[sweet delta]

It's at least as rainbow than quint mag

[undone plover]

Ykii rerun was hinted at right?

[jaunty vault]

it was?

[viscid swift]

yes it was announced

lamo, announcement marked as nsfw by discord

[soft raft]

Yup
No date but wouldn't be surprised if it's basically right after Fritz Remay

[eager mulch]

Does saratoga retro have a stat hex

[jaunty vault]

i think so

[stark quiver]

eta?

nvm

[eager mulch]

can someone get me houshou and bearn stat hex

[viscid swift]

smh lazy turtle

[eager mulch]

there’s someone in ectl general chat saying Rumey is a BBV because she has a B in fp stat hex

and it’s giving me braindamage

[reef flume]

She is a CV

[reef flume]

A damn CV

[stark quiver]

we know

[hollow gust]

literally could just be FP scaling for a barrage

[eager mulch]

Exactly

[hollow gust]

also they shown her planes.

[viscid swift]

she's a weried case

[hollow gust]

thats 9 planes, a full UR loadout

[cobalt rapids]

they said kubo
kubo means cv

[eager mulch]

amagi-chan

[strange sphinx]

hmmm what is that cross?

[hollow gust]

iron cross for german planes

[viscid swift]

because this is what she is based on

[stark quiver]

is the UR cv a prototype cv

[eager mulch]

so hildebrand

sort of

[viscid swift]

kinda, just one quad 8 inch gun mount

[hollow gust]

gun mount means nothing

gonna be a saratoga whos barrage is FP scaling at most

[viscid swift]

she's still a CV without question but they're 100% gonna do something with that

[hollow gust]

EN playerbase is a bunch of airheads

[frank pulsar]

is there any rainbow equip this time? also is this update coming this week or next week?

[boreal wagon]

no and this week

[viscid swift]

not that we know of and this week

[frank pulsar]

z52 is the shop ship right? and not rumey

[atomic abyss]

yep

[frank pulsar]

~~ill never catch up with ur bulins at this rate ~~

[eager mulch]

pull for dupes

[stark quiver]

you get 2 shop ships right

[eager mulch]

if i could give you my cubes i would

[barren tapir]

just skip mlbing the urs that are more outdated or you dont like

[stark quiver]

nice, thats one less bulin i need to suffer for

[frank pulsar]

second one should be higher price, ill decide when i have to cross the bridge

[barren tapir]

im gonna be able to stock up on ur bulins

[stark quiver]

does higher price mean playing the game a bit more

[frank pulsar]

if i mlb both ur from this event (ill probably have to) then my guam is getting pushed back again

[stark quiver]

and 2 week event?

[eager mulch]

should be 2 weeks

[frank pulsar]

im cooked

[eager mulch]

hi cooked, im not cooper

[stark quiver]

so i have this week, and another week of winter break for event,
praying yk2 reruns right after this event endds

[soft raft]

I think the date 1/16 was thrown around a bit in stream
so that could be Yk2 rerun date (And it makes sense when you look at when this event will end), but we wont know 100% for sure until devs tell us

[viscid swift]

I mean it could be true

That happened with UvH last year

Trouble is I don't speak JP so I can't determine what exactly was said

[stark quiver]

i see, damn i only have 3 healers leveled

[soft raft]

I guess they're not as concerned about rerunning 3 URs back to back unless they plan to jam Blucher event in between Yk2 and Implac

[stark quiver]

and my other unicons are not servicable yet

[barren tapir]

i hope yk2 isnt immediately after, that would be rather hectic lol

[hollow gust]

imagine they make the enhanced torps grindable this event, now thats the real hectic. drain all the oil before hvars

[stark quiver]

i wouldnt rly grind for the improved quints ngl

[barren tapir]

i have lots of oil its gunna be fineeeee

if they did do that id just grind a couple for my favorite waifus and call it a day tbh

[hollow gust]

~~smh newbies ~~

[barren tapir]

it wouldnt be as bad as hvars since it's 2 weeks

[hollow gust]

Gonna need at least 6 to be safe

[stark quiver]

i would grind yes, but i wouldnt pull oil out of my storage for it

[hollow gust]

and then gonna grab 2 more hvars to gurantee ill never run out

[barren tapir]

well i'd pull a little since i dunno if i could use all of it in 1 week

[crimson glacier]

has there ever been use for 6 hvars

[stark quiver]

maybe my dream for 10 hvars is still here

[barren tapir]

watch them powercreep hvars anyway with gearlab

whats a good number for newbie

[hollow gust]

5 max , 2 for yorky 2 for the slow and 1 for enty or keary

[stark quiver]

hvars? 5

[hollow gust]

unless you are peepega enough to run yorky nahk implacable

[barren tapir]

so grind out 4 huh

[hollow gust]

5

[barren tapir]

shop has 1

[viscid swift]

One is free from the shop and milestone

[barren tapir]

or well most of 1

so grind out 4, idk if its possible in a week

whats the minimum below that

[stark quiver]

or i can get like less than 5 then patch it up with la9s

[hollow gust]

LA-9 is close enough but that screws with the timing

Although Keary doesnt really give a shit

[stark quiver]

i can prolly make it work
with enough fucking arond with calc

[barren tapir]

how hard do i need to go on it, assuming yk2 event will archive at the end of 2025/early 2026 and be farmable in warchives

[viscid swift]

Well remember with WAs you'll be limited to 4 runs a day

[stark quiver]

with enough time and helps youll prolly get 5

[barren tapir]

maybe. i'll hope for 5 but expect 3. it'll have to do

[exotic flax]

are we likely to get a world 16?

[hollow gust]

not anytime soon

[stark quiver]

whats the best plane for tb slot against light

[hollow gust]

considering other then the boomers, the playerbase cant beat it

[hollow gust]

they are all the same shit

timing more important

[viscid swift]

I'd bet maybe October next year but who knows

[hollow gust]

gonna need a new UR to nerf w15 first

[stark quiver]

Oh right timing

[hollow gust]

w14 was trivial by the time 15 came

[stark quiver]

And if timing isn’t a concern?

[atomic abyss]

same as always, the mode chg vit-2 does the most dmg

[hollow gust]

it always is? the best timing is the best plane

a perfect timing is more valuable then a subpar timing with vit-2

[exotic flax]

I mean I'm in world 14, I could maybe reach 15 if I geared better

[hollow gust]

w15 is a whole different beast then 14

[sweet delta]

~~W15 was trivial by the time laffii+Guam came ~~

[hollow gust]

considering some of the SS , we are gonna need a few more guams

[sweet delta]

Timing first and then +13 spearfish > saiun

[exotic flax]

yeah, so maybe i could finish W14-4 but not necessarily W15-1

[hollow gust]

if you cant fully beat w14, you arent ready for 15

[stark quiver]

https://mrlar.dev/s/f41fb244fcb5bfb4467c3a816a2f75dea5e4b5a7
i have cooked this up
timings are shit and i hate it, but itll look smth like this

[exotic flax]

i dont know if the reason i cant beat 14 is just lazyness, but i am too lazy to bother to ask for help now

[hollow gust]

Just use 4 Hvars

[cobalt rapids]

what are u speed up nahki for

[exotic flax]

i have one...

[stark quiver]

w8 i fucked something up

[viscid swift]

that wasn't referring to you

[exotic flax]

my bad

[stark quiver]

maybe something like this?
preparing for wjhen i have no hvars

[hollow gust]

It's far more important for Yorktown or Nahkimov to have the hvar then kearsarge

[crimson glacier]

no new kms URS, seems like T2

[cobalt rapids]

i mean

[ivory linden]

website?

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator

[sweet delta]

Are the slashes for armor type ?

[stark quiver]

but that being said would this work fine

oh wait bruh nakh launches first

and does the afct only count for the gun rld?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[boreal wagon]

it does excplictly say main gun volley

[sweet delta]

Im sure the calculator will show that afct does not affect her fighter cd

[stark quiver]

it doesnt change for mg either
after taking it off

[boreal wagon]

bc it only shows it on the number itself when it affects all loads

click the reload number

[sweet delta]

Or sync view

[stark quiver]

oh thx

whys kear so fast 💀

[sweet delta]

Maybe your tech and cats are bad

[stark quiver]

im guess her airstrike uses cv rld?

[boreal wagon]

no but giving her a USS/SN plane makes her first one launch 30% faster

[stark quiver]

thats amazing

[sweet delta]

written-in-her-skills-amazing

[stark quiver]

whens pr6 expected to get catchup

[viscid swift]

same time when Tenrai get's added to the lab and stuff

[stark quiver]

would this sync work

praying kear's plane travel time lasts for like 2 seconds

[sweet delta]

How is your kear plane so slow

[stark quiver]

I’m running a la9
0 bb rld

Changed to 17 rld and still 40.29

Oh she’s a bbv

39.05 rn

[barren tapir]

how impactful is rld tech for dds

[eager mulch]

not very

[stark quiver]

Impactful for fine tuned fleets

[sweet delta]

Not impactful~~ since jintsuu meta is where it's at now~~

[junior walrus]

Am I just at the whim of RNG for these? Does higher corrosion levels help with better chance at getting the resources? Seems like BB units are super important so if I can get 2-3 of these finished I’d like to. Any tips or tricks?

[eager mulch]

rng

[junior walrus]

Am i wrong trying to focus a few of these before other things or just kind of go where the RNG takes me and consult guide when needed? Feel like any gold/rainbow unit is going to need to similar resources with the exception being the sacrificed weapon.

[sweet delta]

The tip is to not get this gun when you're so new

[junior walrus]

OpSi doesn't require any fuel so if I'm not going to for best weapons what is my goal with it?

[eager mulch]

get the best weapons but that is not by highest priority best weapon

[sweet delta]

The better best weapon

Which is wyvern

[junior walrus]

so i'm new, but i'm following the github guide and it's highlighted in red as a high priority weapon

So is the Wyvern, but why Wyvern>BB weapon?

[eager mulch]

barracuda to wyvern is a bigger jump than mk6 to mk7

[stark quiver]

Cuz the wyvern is good and you have the mk6 and champy gun

[vale spindle]

Its highlighted as a top bb gun but that doesn't mean it's the first gun you should get from gear lab

[forest palm]

you get less milage out of an MK7 compared to a Wyvern

[vale spindle]

there's plenty of good gold gear you can also get

[forest palm]

also for future reference don't upgrade an MK6 into an MK7 it's more costly

[junior walrus]

fair enough. Just want to make sure I'm understanding why I'm doing something as opposed to just doing it. Gear lab is seeming less complicated as I'm actually looking at it then I initially thought. Just not sure where my priority is, but that's a good goal. I'll focus OpSi for that.

[junior walrus]

How else would I get MK7 if I don't upgrade it into it?

[forest palm]

there's 2 build paths?

[vale spindle]

Aren't there 2 paths

[junior walrus]

OOH I thought it was like retrofitting and both paths had to be filled.

[vale spindle]

No no you only need to do one

[sweet delta]

a +10 mk7 is only like 8% more damage than a +10 mk6

[junior walrus]

So which path should I take? The gold seems less efficient then the mk6 purple

[eager mulch]

neither yet, go wyvern

[sweet delta]

Worry about that after you have at least two wyverns

[junior walrus]

I'm just saying while we're on the topic for future reference

[forest palm]

Mk D

[sweet delta]

And 360 spare main gun gold plates, which is a tall order

[stone sluice]

They mentioned from January 9th to 16th

[forest palm]

oh, is Operation Convergence dead?

[junior walrus]

So just so I have order and don't have to ask again later, 2 Wyvern, 2-3 rainbow MK7, then after that just High priority for whatever I need filled based on fleets?

[sweet delta]

You really do not need 3 or even 2 mk7

Again, mk7 is barely better than mk6 at +10

[soft raft]

Mk7 is alot more lower priority
I only made two from gear lab because I could afford to +13 them

[forest palm]

many much things to get from gear lab before an MK7, do not let the shiny distract you, yes

[junior walrus]

So like Flapjacks for my Unicorn shit like that? A lot of it is RNG, but early game just get good golds cause they're affordable to level?

[vale spindle]

yes but also gold is sometimes best in slot too lol

[stone sluice]

Jan 9th

[vale spindle]

Like flapjack is the best fighter for general use

[stone sluice]

So the torps are a rerun of the improved quads we got this year?

[sweet delta]

Flapjack is also not very high priority

[vale spindle]

Yes

[forest palm]

if they are in the shop surely they're farmable

[junior walrus]

After 2 Wyverns it's just based on my needs really. Can't put a definitive do this or do that on it.

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message

[vale spindle]

In an ideal world gear lab priority is split by material and not equip type but you can't do that in 2d yay

[junior walrus]

Yeah I understand it's a grind I don't even have the resources to make URs. Just trying to make sure I don't waste the material when I get it.

[stone sluice]

What usage the 155kai has outside w14 on BBs?

I have plenty of materials and ordnances to craft them

[vale spindle]

Its a +45 fp decent secondary gun option

You can also use it as a cl main gun on basically every cl that only takes cl main gun with certain exceptions

[stone sluice]

Everywhere in campaign?

[vale spindle]

yes!

even opsi too
rainbow is better but you probably don't have more than 1-3 anyways

[stone sluice]

Only 2 ply guns

[vale spindle]

the only exceptions are due to skills, like Neptune for example

[sweet delta]

French gun is better than 155 kai too

[wide ember]

Getting at least 2 Wyvern should be the prio in gear lab right ?

[barren tapir]

wyvern good

was it okay to +13 a ju87 tb

for torps, the improved quadmag from next event will be good to +13 right?

[ivory pawn]

They’re the best torps (on auto), and they’re only gold so.

[barren tapir]

hmm, it says for 2023 so i guess the challenge mode thingies just repeat each year?

[forest palm]

well ya, you also get the older frames if you didn't participate in that too

though for this year if you did them last you get coin which lol

[ebon storm]

should i farm steam catapiuts

[sweet delta]

You should farm whichever map you're supposed to farm for exp or coins or other resources

[heavy shale]

is the stuff from livestream live next week?

[ebon storm]

so we are getting two URs on the 19th patch?

[fair lance]

19th

[heavy shale]

huge

[wide ember]

Should i use Tenzan or Barracuda for torpedo bomber on Unicorn ?

Have no better option i think

[ebon storm]

ryuusei

[wide ember]

Thanks

[eager mulch]

For what content

I wouldn’t use Ryuusei on unicorn

[wide ember]

14-1 and forward right now

[barren tapir]

baracuda for mobbing

[eager mulch]

barracuda

[wide ember]

Okay, thanks !

[barren tapir]

get yo ass a wyvern tho

[sweet delta]

You should have wyvern(s) by the time you do chapter 14

[wide ember]

Short on these kinda returning player i did not play for a long time

[barren tapir]

do more opsi

[wide ember]

I am doing it everyday ever since i returned

[eager mulch]

do more

[barren tapir]

wyvern is probably the first electronic equipment you should make

[wide ember]

[stark quiver]

How many months can I expect to stay in pr7 for 3 la9s

[haughty dust]

Besides the store, are there any other easy ways to get the shards for the two weapons that I’m very close to crafting the ones that are like two or three away from 50

[sweet delta]

Depends on your own pace

[haughty dust]

I should add the one at the top right is already out in the store. I’m already used up all of them in the store.

[rain vine]

just research projects, at that point

[stark quiver]

explain pls
just how I take researches?

[hollow sail]

rigging analysis research of the respective PR season

[sweet delta]

Yes, some people get one per 50 days other people get one per year

[wide ember]

Q researches the one that start with that letter

[haughty dust]

so which ones are those that I need to look out for based on the two that are like two or three blueprints away. I’ve mostly been trying to use researches for PR/DR5 characters lately.

[stark quiver]

with full gear focus and like average luck
around 6 month for all 3?

[haughty dust]

which I should add regarding PR/DR 5 the next closest one to be done after Harbin is Plymouth. The rest are either at Dev level 24 or 25. I recently got Plymouth to development level 26

[hollow sail]

IV for tenrai, II for 457mm. if you have spares in shop you could prob just buy anyway

[haughty dust]

I don’t have the spare resources for the shop right now. on the research projects does it tell you specifically IV or II? I don’t know if I’ve ever played close enough attention before.

[rain vine]

yes

[undone plover]

u wont get series II unless u set it as focus

for the top left gun idk if u specified if it is out of store as well
but if u want those last 2 prints u need to set pr2 as focus for a few days
prioritize Q and G research, they give the best gear rates

[forest palm]

have to wonder when PR4 will be decommissioned gonna be weird

[stark quiver]

I mean the ships are still really good

[eternal basalt]

Should be next month

[still nest]

Is anything added at gearlab?

[viscid swift]

not yet

[still nest]

[viscid swift]

still a good month off from the next update

[wide ember]

Approx when do we get the double ur event i forgot ?

[viscid swift]

this Thursday

[wide ember]

[keen sable]

Mebot deleted

[slow fox]

notspotted

[jade spire]

Is there any other way to get t3 cruiser retrofit blueprint other than the hard stages? Cuz drop rates too low

[eager mulch]

guild shop has them sometimes, 3 star hard mode missions

[spark ridge]

during dead weeks and stuff, is it worth farming Khorovod of Dawn's Rime if i want to get north parliament fleet tech

or just wait for a russian event

[blissful hamlet]

who's the other gold ship on new event other than admiral hipper meta

[viscid swift]

the CL, Duisburg or something

[blissful hamlet]

CL

[soft raft]

Just wait
you only really need like 300 which is part of Nakhimov's requirement

[eager mulch]

burg

[tropic mulch]

Anyone got intel about what these things means? Do they compliment each other's skills or block it?

[eager mulch]

it means nothing, just a special border for META ships

[tropic mulch]

Hmmm... I see

[eager mulch]

does CN have any fleets cooked for Taihou meta yet

[worn quest]

how good are the fleet tech ships?

[weary gust]

Taihou Meta has like no gimmick abilities, I'd think a normal CV fleet built for heavy damage would work.

[grizzled sundial]

Give it a few day for her to get to level 15 , right now even a half-cooked fleet can take on lv 10

[stark quiver]

my pvp fleet can take on lvl 10

[eager mulch]

I’m asking if CN has any fleets cooked

[sweet delta]

CN dalaos don't cheat in plain sight so just go ask EN overlords instead

[stark quiver]

with only 2 ships left in pr7, im tryna finish up nakh w/ 38 bps left, would a around a week until her d30 be reasonable

[undone plover]

well, event is also in 2-3 days and u can get 15 selectors there
I would say very likely unless extremely unlucky

[weary gust]

A week would be very optimistic. 4-5 BPs a day is doable but on the high end

I guess if she's the only one left and you only get her for faces it's probable

[stark quiver]

its 15 now for dr bps in events?

[stuck spire]

anybody else having morale issues? as far as i can tell, my fleet has stopped regaining morale, even when resting on the 2nd floor of the dorm

seems to be a today problem

[undone plover]

5 milestone
10 shop
for series 7

[weary gust]

Try closing/reopening your game, see if that updates the morale values.

[stark quiver]

nice, so i js need like 23 more for nakh
idek if i wnna finish napoli
she needs 150~ more

[undone plover]

no reason not to finish her

[weary gust]

What else would you do besides finish her?

[stark quiver]

just full gear focus

[weary gust]

I mean you'll still get her BPs even doing gear focus.

[undone plover]

go full gear focus
she will still finish slowly

[stuck spire]

that did it, thanks!

[stark quiver]

actually yea
after that im planning to go finish kear

[undone plover]

wer are getting pr6 catchup next month
how many BP left for kear?

[weary gust]

~~Thanks for reminding me to switch catchup focus on pr5 ~~

[stark quiver]

230 💀

[undone plover]

imo stay in pr7 after
when we get catchup for 6 or 1 week before that switch to pr6 and finish kearsarge
might sync to ykii release too

[stark quiver]

more stuff to deal with

[undone plover]

we are also getting DR6 prints from medal shop
5 per month
I would grab them if I were u

[stark quiver]

yea already did

[obsidian ivy]

Is there no rainbow equip in the upcoming event or is that crystal ball remains to be seen

[elfin hollow]

Does the command ship have a higher target priority than a boss?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the battle but in campaign so far yes

[rocky fjord]

there's a battle where it isnt?

[forest palm]

pretty sure there's no UR Gear judging from the screen they showed of the main items in the event shop

[viscid swift]

not that we know of but non zero chance they didn't reveal everything during the stream

[south sequoia]

Ye, like the time yorktown II event catched up with putting the skyraider in the patch notes

[viscid swift]

yep

[forest palm]

I'm just hoping the improved quad mag is farmable

[south sequoia]

is the improved quad the same as the one from the kindergarten event

[soft raft]

yes

[south sequoia]

ah

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

NO

[soft raft]

they were literally just announced like 14 hours ago
we'll get the datamine at the usual time in 2 days as per usual

[little tree]

~~ get to it turtle 🐢~~

[eager mulch]

im not a data minor

[little tree]

[eager mulch]

miner*

[tranquil rock]

insane luck is so real

[crisp raven]

with that gold count, youll need an equal amount of luck for the UR.

[tranquil rock]

is that supposed to be bad or good

[crisp raven]

bad. the new ur event starts thursday. the lack of gold is fairly concerning.

[tranquil rock]

oh yeah nah the coin amount is nothign i can farm 10-4 or something 3 times and get a shit ton of coins

[viscid swift]

being over the soft cap period with oil is never usually a good sign

[tranquil rock]

me when i cant play much because school exists

[stark quiver]

good luck

[undone plover]

u want to push to ch12
ch10 is not ideal for farming

[tranquil rock]

i know
i currently am

im on like ch11 rn

[viscid swift]

then take stuff like the 12 hour commissions, using that oil for something is better than letting it go to waste

[tranquil rock]

i cant seem to find more than 1 per day

and each and every day i have taken it

[viscid swift]

you can only do one at a time

[stark quiver]

luckily break season is upon us at least for most ppl in school

[tranquil rock]

i have one more week to go 😭
4 more days until break