gameplay-help

[vale spindle]

barrage plus dps gun

[rare wyvern]

Thank

[storm niche]

what priority should i get pr7 ships in?

[wind hazel]

it's more or less nakhimov

[storm niche]

alr thanks

[forest palm]

what were the coin dumps again? stuck at 600k

they really should just let you add it to your bank

[stark quiver]

Cats

[forest palm]

that one isn't good for me

[plain saffron]

ddg

[forest palm]

what was that arcade thing again?

and how do you access it

[ivory pawn]

HQ > Academy > Arcade

Just a bunch of minigames to get tickets to unlock a couple skins or gear skin boxes.

[forest palm]

[stark quiver]

I think it’s a sign

also the forbidden method, perma pull

[forest palm]

[plain saffron]

augment modules

[forest palm]

wait....that's a good one

[noble osprey]

Guys is there any point to leveling Retrofit Portlands Best Sister skill if im not running her with Indy?

[forest palm]

there's 0 reason to level any of Portland's skills

all her skills are in fact useless

[noble osprey]

Well too late for that since I got her other skill at lvl 10 already 😅

Shes my best tank for a long time already

[exotic flax]

How do I know if I've finished the story of Operation Siren?

[forest palm]

Ch 4 gives you access to everything but the center, Ch 5 if the last bit of story which gives you access to the center

[jaunty vault]

there's no more story to do in information tab

thats how you know it

[ivory pawn]

If you can fight the Arbiter, you've finished story.
If you have a timer until reset in the top left of the map, you've finished Chapter 4.

[exotic flax]

I have a timer, but I can't access the Arbiter.
Unless doing the story in the middle counts as the arbiter fight for today

[soft raft]

you still gotta do some practice arbiters first before you can actually go fight the real one

And you dont have to fight the practice ones to have the monthly reset timer

[exotic flax]

ok

and do those practice ones also appear in the middle of the map?

[sweet delta]

No, follow the red signs

[exotic flax]

I've been following red !

theres also clipboards and treasure chests and red chests with red faces over them but i dont think those are all arbiter stuff

[sweet delta]

You should be doing all of those stuff before arbiter stuff

[exotic flax]

I know, but I haven't been able to finish the story yet possibly

I'll do them when I have a moment

[jade spire]

Which metas are worth building?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the other ships you have and your account status

[jade spire]

Uh...

[sweet delta]

But jintsuu meta surely

[jade spire]

What about ark royal and algerie meta?

[sweet delta]

Mid and bad

[jade spire]

I was doin the dossier of them

[soft raft]

realistically they're all tech fodder

[sweet delta]

Some of the dossiers can be useful, but again it depends on whether you already have better ships

[jade spire]

Is she limited?

Cant find in the list

[sweet delta]

She's the next one to be added to dossier in like 3 months probably

[jade spire]

Guess the metas are for collection only

Im lacking in cv builds

Which CV's here are actually powerful?
Im returning player and Im not kidding i am brainded about the mechanics cuz i only played AL for waifus

[soft raft]

Besides the URs (Which good god why did you spread out limit breaks), Enterprise, Perseus, Saratoga Retrofit, Unicorn retrofit, Ark Royal (OpSi only)

Honorable mention to Illustrious, Illustrious Muse, and Indomitable purely for W15 support fleet

[jade spire]

Thx.

[jade spire]

Is soyuz good?

[cobalt rapids]

yes if mlb

[void garnet]

is there an optimal map for farming kearsarge PR exp

[worn quest]

is yuudachi worth farming

[eager mulch]

same place you grind xp normally

[void garnet]

i just started

[cobalt rapids]

not rly
her + retro are skippable
only farm if u already bought her retrofit item or for tech/collection

[eager mulch]

so where are you at

you shouldn’t grind pr xp unless you’re at like W12 and Kearsarge definitely should not be your first pick

tell them renhex

[void garnet]

she's waifu

ok ill farm W12

[mellow cape]

Just started? You already have W12 already? Dangg

[trim bloom]

Is it worth getting nakhimov if I don’t have Soyuz?

[cobalt rapids]

yes but that depends on other things

[sweet delta]

It's worth getting nakhimov if you will be able to dev30 her sometime soon

[cobalt rapids]

these things

[eager mulch]

is it worth getting amagi-chan?

[jaunty vault]

as sad as it sounds, no

[void garnet]

💳

[storm marlin]

What is the best way to tackle the Corrosion Level 6 zones in Operation Siren?

[cobalt rapids]

track? you mean find ?
they are usually near the center or at the edges

[storm marlin]

Tackle

[cobalt rapids]

ah
sirens then ?
coz c6 zones arent anything special otherwise just send your mobfleet at em

[white agate]

what are your opsi stats? i mean the 3 blue icons

[floral thunder]

My vanguard consists of Northampton, Sims, and Z23 should I change Northampton and Sims to Portland and Indianapolis?

[cobalt rapids]

change nh to port and sims to helena

[storm marlin]

Offensive: 53
Survivability: 76
Tactics: 78

[atomic abyss]

change to portland and helena

[soft raft]

Portland yes
Indianapolis hell fucking no

[white agate]

yep, kinda low if you are using a bad fleet, usually unicorn kai + 5 decent ships works, but i would increase my opsi stats a bit, till 100-90 i think is fine

[soft raft]

(And no, the sister skill is not good)

[floral thunder]

Don’t have Helena

[atomic abyss]

get her from the guild shop
get unicorn too if you havent

[floral thunder]

Oh ok

[atomic abyss]

you will need to refresh the shop to get both

[storm marlin]

Is Unicorn powerful enough on Operation Siren?

[atomic abyss]

she is the best healer in the entire game, once you get her retrofit

which is the first retrofit you should get

while opsi mobbing is easy enough and the only place you will use her in opsi (she's not a bosser)

she is extremely strong and like, probably the first thing you will slot in for any campaign clearing team

[storm marlin]

Just need to get the modernization upgrade

Then I'll be balling. Swap her out for Yorktown, who I have in one of my fleets

[gaunt bison]

I'm currently entering 13-1 and I'm lacking a second good AA character
My sandy is mlb, 125 augment which is enough for 1 fleet but I cant power through with 1 anymore
Chesire isnt an option because I dont have enough Tech points yet
Who should I level up rn?

I can send ss's of my dock if needed

[atomic abyss]

hold off w13 then

if you dont have enough tech for chesh, consider juneau retro

[cobalt rapids]

juneau
but depending on ur ships and gear u can just skip the 2nd aa carry altogether

so u can open a thread and post ur dock

[atomic abyss]

tho you'll want to get chesh eventually

will be a good step to getting plymouth

[gaunt bison]

should I send screenshots of dock with or without stats on?

[cobalt rapids]

in a thread
without stats
preferably filtered by main and then by vanguard

[gaunt bison]

I'm currently entering 13-1 and I'm

alright posted all my ships in the thread

[noble osprey]

Guys where do you get points to unlock Helena Meta?

[gaunt bison]

do opsi for reports after which you can engage in showdown

[atomic abyss]

the very place you're at

tap on her to set her as the meta dossier you wish to challenge

then after doing your opsi dailies, maybe a bit more, you get enough to battle her twice

and battling her gives you points to unlock her

[soft raft]

by fighting her repeatedly like you'd do with all other METAs

[noble osprey]

I think im missing something

[atomic abyss]

^

time to play some opsi

[noble osprey]

Shes all i can challange for now

[soft raft]

Get grinding

[atomic abyss]

that's not even your challenge

[soft raft]

yeah that's someone elese's

[noble osprey]

So i gotta clear more opsi levels?

[atomic abyss]

do your opsi dailies, clear your opsi maps, yes

[noble osprey]

Alrighty then ➡️

[gaunt bison]

telling someone to play opsi sounds like a threat

[cobalt egret]

That's because it is

[uncut zinc]

hello all. sorry for asking but. rn im lvl 37 and im at ch 6-1 that needs lvl 40 to do. i also have no oil to get xp. so what can i do?

[atomic abyss]

unironically, stop playing and go touch some grass

there's nothing you can do at that point

[uncut zinc]

ive been afk lol. i have tuched grass. well thx

[uncut zinc]

btw which game are u playing if i may ask?

[keen sable]

go 1:1 something

[atomic abyss]

heaven burns red
the newest game yostar released about a month ago

[keen sable]

preferably without ur shinies

[uncut zinc]

ah thx. dint know about it. ima go watch the trailer. bye have a nice day

[hybrid willow]

Idk, personally I've been enjoying Opsi, but I've only been playing a few months

[winged barn]

Best auxiliary gear for Drake? At the moment I had only the golden washing machine

[atomic abyss]

toolbox + gold washing machine

[chilly birch]

Is dev 30 Nakhimov best with two 2x torp bombers or 1x torp and 1x dive bomber?

[viscid swift]

situationally dependent

[eager mulch]

@viscid swift what’s the fleet you’re leveling in W12 rn gimme a screenshot

[elfin hollow]

if im stuck in captain rank i want to up my current rank to 1000?

[viscid swift]

left does the mobs, right does the boss

[white agate]

#pvp got some meta teams aboyt it, also i think sandbagging was advised, i don't remember if sandbagging still works tho

[coarse heron]

your rank needs to be higher than 1000, basically "win more fights"

[warm condor]

When is the Yostar email thingy?

[elfin hollow]

i think that i have a so bad team 4 pvp

[coarse heron]

yeah if you want to break into top 50 you need a 100% win rate, and even staying in top 1000 requires one above 90%
#pvp can help you build a PvP fleet, as well as advice about sandbagging, when to do exercises, and such

[viscid swift]

you don't need a 100% win rate to break into the top 50

I've lost 2 to 3 games before and still made it to Admiral of the Navy for that season

[coarse heron]

maybe your server is less competitive then, because on Amagi I accidentally missed 2 exercises this season and I can't even get top 100 now

[viscid swift]

I am on Amagi

heck just this season I also lost a fight, still got in to Admiral of the Navy

[coarse heron]

I always have a 100% win rate and never take +9 exercises and I still almost never get AOTN wtf

[viscid swift]

it's about how you approach it, my strat probably isn't optimal but this is what I do

[keen sable]

never take +9 is a really low bar

[stark quiver]

i overcapped 3 sets

[viscid swift]

I dump all of my exercises at the start of a season, then I'll always hold 3-5 exercises in reserve until I rush Admiral of the Navy towards the end of the season

I don't sand bag because that would ruin my sleep schedule and I don't trust myself to not constantly over cap

[coarse heron]

I'm on same timezone as server so I can safely sandbag

[viscid swift]

and yet

[coarse heron]

right

I think I just have shitty luck

[viscid swift]

this isn't really about luck, just a numbers a game

[weary gust]

1. #pvp
2. The most important part of getting AOTN is how lucky you get at having people in your lineup spend their exercises early in the season so you can get +34 or +33 points per each exercise. Everything after that is just doing your exercises.

[coarse heron]

it is about luck though as evidenced by the fact that I almost never get top 10

[eager mulch]

3. #pvp

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't call that a luck issue so much as your strategy not working

[keen sable]

how many exercises do you have right now

[viscid swift]

because bad luck would imply that it's an exception and not the norm which in this case is yeah

[coarse heron]

I guess I could try just constantly leaving 3-4 exercises until AOTN and see if that changes anything

[keen sable]

see whatever it is you're doing is not sandbagging

you'll never get eos that way

[stark quiver]

just hard bag

[viscid swift]

this is sand bagging btw

[keen sable]

The eos people literally have 70+ points in hand against you

[weary gust]

What does eos stand for?

[stark quiver]

end of season
basically refers to top 10 each server (i think)

i tried for it, ended up overcapping and rage rushing

[coarse heron]

real

[eager mulch]

end of service

[viscid swift]

I knew PvP would be the end of this game

[eager mulch]

AL 2 will be a first person PvP hero shooter

[blissful berry]

is there a site that helps build a fleet? I wanna build two based of Graf Zeppelin and Saint Louis

[viscid swift]

like guides you? no

not even sure how you would create such a site

[eager mulch]

you build fleets for content not around ships

[blissful berry]

was curious if someone figured it out yet

[eager mulch]

there is nothing to figure out

[keen sable]

you take the meta fleet. find the least painful ship to remove and insert self own.

[ivory linden]

spoken like a true zen master

[grizzled sundial]

How do damage reduction skill stack ? if graf zep give IB 15% reduction and then there is an IB ship that have 8% reduction , it turn into 23% ?

[coarse heron]

multiplicitive, not additive.

[keen sable]

literally and figuratively

[blissful berry]

My 2 main ones suck rn and i wanna fix them without remove Saint Louis or Graf Zeppelin

[keen sable]

they're decent ships so it shouldn't be hard

[eager mulch]

what if saint louis and Graf are the problem

[blissful berry]

they aint going anywhere

and they might be cause idk how to equip either lmfao

[viscid swift]

the question still remains of for what content, what do you have to work with, etc

[blissful berry]

OP(ish) fleets ig, to have them defeat the enemies in the main story? im on 13-2 rn

[viscid swift]

well what do you have to work with then

[keen sable]

Musashi, Unicorn, Aquila, Brest, Eldridge, Shimanto
Bismarck Zwei, Volga, GZ, Guam, Saint Louis, Laffey II
~~does support fleet count? ~~

[blissful berry]

these are the only ones Im missing, I can use everyone and start working on them if their lvl is low

[viscid swift]

well there's still some info missing though

like which of the ones are leveled, and in the case of the URs and PRs max limit broken/dev 30

because 13-2 really isn't difficult to optimize to the nth degree, neither is W14 for that matter

[blissful berry]

no its not, im just trying to have a strong fleet moving forward, so i dont need to change much later on

[eager mulch]

you will need to change much because the content changes drastically

[viscid swift]

well that isn't quite gonna work out

[eager mulch]

and Graf and saint Louis will be deadweight

[blissful berry]

[viscid swift]

because a W14 fleet isn't necessarily gonna work for W15, the current CM boss, Operation Siren, the latest meta boss, etc

[blissful berry]

the fleets are more for main story

I have everyone at MAX LB except some PR ships

[viscid swift]

well even with that in mind though it still doesn't answer this

[blissful berry]

im checking rn

PR 1-PR4 (except Agir) are max dev

PR 5-PR 7 Im still working on

[viscid swift]

so basically none of the PR5-7 ships are dev 30 then

[blissful berry]

yup

All my UR ships are Max LB(excluding some PR ships) and lvl 70 or higher

[viscid swift]

I don't know if this will work for W15 but you can try
Mob: Musashi, Unicorn, Aquila, Laffey 2, San Diego, Mogador?
Boss: Bismarck Zwei, GZ, Amagi CV, Guam, Saint Louis, Eldridge retro

[blissful berry]

okie thank you

[forest palm]

it'll probably be questionable if certain gear from PR4 through 7 is missing...

[blissful berry]

?

[forest palm]

I don't think it'll matter too heavily, so try and find out

[blissful berry]

ok

[jaunty glade]

OPSCI Fleets - Improvements & 4th Fleet

[vague fable]

where to get steam engine

[atomic abyss]

Do you mean steam catapult...?

[vague fable]

yep , gold one

[atomic abyss]

Gold tech boxes
Of any faction

[vague fable]

okay , thank you

[golden moth]

Who is gz here sir

[weary gust]

Graf Zeppelin

Note that Graf is only being included in that fleet per specific request by that person and she is NOT optimal for it.

Same goes for Saint Louis.

[atomic abyss]

One of the worst possible choices lol

I think they'll work outside 15-4 at least

[golden moth]

If i may ask..in w15..the comp for main is that one bb and 2 cv?

[stark quiver]

usaually yea

[golden moth]

Ohhh

[weary gust]

That's generally the case for all campaign worlds, because you want one bb to protect against suicides and the two cvs for air superiority/aa

[golden moth]

Which is better to bring amagi cv or nano..to be with aquila..

[weary gust]

Amagi CV is flat out the strongest CV by herself I believe ...

[stark quiver]

unicorn
if ur talking abt mob

[golden moth]

The 2nd fleet..the boss one

[golden moth]

Ok ok got it..so biscuit zwei aquila and amagi cv..?

[stark quiver]

your mob fleet, should look like
musashi,unicorn,aquila

your boss fleet can have volga/perseus, or no healer ngl

[golden moth]

My mob one is sushi uni and the northern parlia cv that heals

[stark quiver]

swap aquila and volga,
the synergy is crazy between aquila and musashi

[golden moth]

Ibteresting got it

[dreamy blade]

is she really that bad

[eager mulch]

W15 is very hard yes, do understand that gz is just not enough

[dreamy blade]

well when i see "one of the worst possible" im imagining her being compared to like, commons and blue ships too

[weary gust]

Graf Zepp is a mid tier CV. She's just not that strong compared to lots of other CVs (especially the URs) and she has no real support ability besides the damage reduction for ironblood ships, which you're probably not using much in ultra-plane hell.

Yes she's better than the worst ships of the game, but there's still easily 10 CVs better than her and 10 more that are equivalent.

[dreamy blade]

it's ok next week we'll get graf zwei anyway

[grizzled sundial]

Not like you gonna bring her into super hard and super endgame content that required you to beat a boss , she is serviceable till w12.

[dreamy blade]

im working through w13 rn with her (only bc im still doing the cdc for fdg)

just cleared 13-3 and havent had issues

[ebon storm]

is daisen good?

[earnest crag]

Is there anyone I need to switch out for team 2 besides the fact they are low level?

[dreamy blade]

you need to limit break your ships

[stark quiver]

kick out ranger, shouhou, and whoever the furthest right vanguard is
and you might not need a 2nd fleet yet

[dreamy blade]

thats naganami who is pretty useless considering she buffs torps for cl/dd and helena doesnt have torps

[grizzled sundial]

Depend on who else you have in the dock , new guys don't have many options to pick . Not like they have perseus or a bunch of SSR in the dock after a week or 2

Raise a Unicorn.

[dreamy blade]

im assuming uni is in his team 1 (hopefully)

[earnest crag]

Luckily, my unicorn is in team 1 so its doing pretty well

[grizzled sundial]

What world map you in

[ebon storm]

is daisen good

[earnest crag]

chapter 3-4 rn

[dreamy blade]

shes good but nothing special

[weary gust]

Daisen good, gold bb, UR BB better.

[grizzled sundial]

Generally you can plow through world map content with terrible rating ships till you get to world 10 . But i suggest you invest good ships early on as your resources is constraint .

[stark quiver]

use 1 fleet

[earnest crag]

oh alright then

[stark quiver]

whos in fleet 1? you might wanna swap new jeresy,portland, and maybe helena there

[dreamy blade]

it will probably look something like uni/nj/x (ranger is fine-ish) + portland/helena/starter

[grizzled sundial]

Isuzu not drop early right ?

[stark quiver]

isuzu drops at 7-3 and 15-1 if thats what youre asking

[earnest crag]

team 1

[dreamy blade]

bench indi and put helena there, penn+uni+enterprise is solid backline

[weary gust]

Indy = 🚮

[stark quiver]

use helena in place of indianapolis, and use new jeresy insead of pennsylvania

[dreamy blade]

you can use nj instead of penn but she uses a lot more oil if thats a concern

[grizzled sundial]

Did you use the ring on the starting DD ?

[dreamy blade]

nothing wrong with that

[stark quiver]

whats the problem to that?

[spice bronze]

hey i've been having trouble doing this for months.. (XD)
I can send what ships I have, I can't understand this game and I can't build characters

[dreamy blade]

youre trying to use 0LB ships first of all, yellow rarity does not = good

[spice bronze]

oh really?..

[stark quiver]

enty = good

[spice bronze]

what a flip

[weary gust]

Also wasting exp by not using mlb ships

[stark quiver]

thx cheeky

[dreamy blade]

not to say yellow ships are bad, but that mlb blues/elites will far outperform 0lb yellows

[spice bronze]

for examples what is good? in other rarity

[dreamy blade]

what does your dock look like

[spice bronze]

wait

[barren tapir]

weird thing to question

[barren tapir]

why are none of your ships limit breaked lol

[weary gust]

And where are all the bullins

[stark quiver]

more importantly, wheres all your bulins

[dreamy blade]

where are your bulins

[spice bronze]

what??

[vague fable]

you have Hood , New Jersey and you're getting cooked?

[barren tapir]

i see a bulin in combat oh no

[spice bronze]

sorry I don't understand what you are writing to me I'm new to this game

[weary gust]

Dude found the single way to hard handicap himself in this game.

[stark quiver]

wheres all the other ones

[dreamy blade]

these things

[vague fable]

im horrified to know what you did with your gems

[grizzled sundial]

I would reserve the ring for really strong ship , backline even . When i just start i didnt spend real money so only 1 ring i had and it was until FDG reach max that i use it . Stat boost good for long term .

[barren tapir]

also dunno why they're doing war archives

[stark quiver]

oath all or nothing, using ring messes up with syncing and timing

[spice bronze]

oh well

[barren tapir]

rings are waifu only for f2p

[weary gust]

Oathing for stats is a whale thing. F2p cannot afford the rings to oath fleets.

[spice bronze]

I don't even remember XD

[grizzled sundial]

That is why save the ring .

[vague fable]

[dreamy blade]

that only works if your waifu is the meta instead of a shipgirl

[barren tapir]

whats the point in more stats for op ship if you miss the main point of the game

which is waifu collector. waifu.

*for most ppl at least

[grizzled sundial]

And as f2p , you only have very few of it .

[vague fable]

oathing enty made me enjoy the game more

[stark quiver]

1 free ring each year -> your ships gets powercrept
you cant keep up

[barren tapir]

as f2p few rings is exactly why you oath your favorites and not for stats

you wont be able to keep up with the meta. don't bother.

[dreamy blade]

~~saving my rings for azur lane 2 ~~

[dreamy blade]

i suggest looking through this to start https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[spice bronze]

oh thx u sm

[barren tapir]

idk it's just such a weird thing to question to me, why's it matter what someone waifus?

[weary gust]

He's questioning it because he sees rings as a means to progress further/perform better in the game, but he doesn't understand that the stat bonus from oath is not a make-or-break difference and that the "top ship" you oath once per year can easily get outdated/replaced by a new ship.

[south sequoia]

No off topic gifs please thank you

[grizzled sundial]

If he love it , sure . But it could be use for better ship or ship that you gonna use a lot . Pretty sure he havent seen ships down the line that is way more beautiful or just stronger .

[vague fable]

got it

[stark quiver]

then wait another year shrimple

[hollow gust]

Ooooo drama

[barren tapir]

i guess that's fair. especially from a spender's perspective

[sharp socket]

ring is waifu, because you can do stuff without ringing ships

[barren tapir]

personality >>> beauty/strength anyway (but beauty is nice too)

[weary gust]

In fact, for f2p, oathing "top tier" ships can mess you up. It throws off reload stat which disrupts timing when used with other non-oath ships, and a f2p player cannot oath all their mainfleets.

[stark quiver]

60% of my f2p gems went to oaths
like 10% to the ship repairs
dont be like me

[vale spindle]

the only ship i oathed that didn't have an oath skin was NJ (who got an oath skin a few months later anyways )

[barren tapir]

why the reaction, the shipgirl's voicelines and voice matter a lot to me

[crisp raven]

you play with sound on?

[dreamy blade]

gems on ship repairs no way

[grizzled sundial]

Oathing the one that supposed to synce the shipgirl and back to square one

[south sequoia]

[barren tapir]

sometimes yes

[weary gust]

f2p gets one ring per year.

[vale spindle]

usually 2

[barren tapir]

wait 2?

[vale spindle]

its not guaranteed but most years you get another one outside of anniversary

[sharp socket]

i have 5 ring(ed) total and i only bought 2, 1 from beginner missions so i got 2 somewhere in the year

[dreamy blade]

private dorm release gave 1

[barren tapir]

oh neat, stuff like private dorm opening kinda things happen more often than i expected then

[grizzled sundial]

Still a super rare resources , and strict sync timing only matter if you do super boss fight or super endgame content or pvp , which for casual , they rarely do.

[hollow sail]

i find it kinda funny the argument for meta oath cuz oathing fdg in mid 2024 isn't exactly taking advantage of that

[vale spindle]

if you don't oath a ship with an oath skin its literally suboptimal

[dreamy blade]

why do the oath stats even matter if youre not considering "super boss fight or super endgame content"

[barren tapir]

well likewise 6% stat only matter if you do super boss fight or pvp

[south sequoia]

Thats the funny thing, it doesn't

unless you uhh tryhard pvp

[vale spindle]

even then

[barren tapir]

broke: oath meta ship to make her stronger
woke: oath waifu ship to make her stronger

[vale spindle]

you can easily get aotn without it

[sharp socket]

will oathing sushi let her sync better with the fast ships like vanny/alsus

[vale spindle]

probably but thats assuming you don't oath those 2

[forest palm]

ya

[sharp socket]

yes me f2p on rings

[vale spindle]

if vanguard gets an oath skin i will oath her you can't stop me
even if it messes up timings

[forest palm]

I wouldn't bother

[hollow sail]

i don't care about timing for oath i just cope

[forest palm]

oath'ing Musashi for better syncs won't accomplish much

[vale spindle]

true, thats why i triple bb every meta

[reef flume]

She'll be flatter

[sharp socket]

i like sushi, so id just oath anyway just like how i did shinano but wonder if itll be funnier stuff i have to do for sync

[barren tapir]

vanguard is perfectly cute the way she is

[hollow sail]

most oath skins are inferior to the other skins of the bote anyway

[reef flume]

I oathed Musashi but I don't use her oath skin

I prefer boat skin

[viscid swift]

F2Ps can't afford "other" skins though

[barren tapir]

some ships do have free skins

[stark quiver]

whens next ww

[barren tapir]

javelin has 2 actually iirc

[viscid swift]

quite a few do, but they rarely overlap with the ships you'd wanna oath

[obsidian ivy]

How many of each converging torpedo bombers +13 is enough

[sharp socket]

i also tend to buy skins for the ships i oathed even if they have oath skin

[stark quiver]

around 2 of each
u can do more if ur comp requires

[barren tapir]

well, 'want to oath' ends up being subjective. but i'll agree it's rare they overlap with one that has an oath skin

[crisp raven]

id guess lunar new year or cn anni. most logical time for next ww

[reef flume]

Today btw I tested for the first time my +13 Yamato gun on Musashi against Soryuu (lvl 126)

[reef flume]

Goddamn

[south sequoia]

What a waste of plates

[stark quiver]

dang, doesnt cn anni come with a UR?
and how much % rate up?

[viscid swift]

Kinda goes to show that I can set my filter to has skin and still get this much to show up

[reef flume]

There is a reason why I did that, an important one

[barren tapir]

iirc EN server gets wishing well on CN and EN anniversarys

[crisp raven]

usually yes, and the rate becomes event banner rates.

[barren tapir]

CN is alongside a UR event which is kinda cringe ngl

[south sequoia]

Any other reason why outside actual one shot tech crafting

[hollow gust]

why you even testing musashi with 460

[reef flume]

Meme

[hollow gust]

3 shot musashi is gonna lose to 4 shot in almost anything

[reef flume]

I actually got better results with that rather with Izumo gun duh. And she did more with Yamato gun even with Helena

[stark quiver]

only if the banner is i.e special right?
and the ship i choose was also special

[reef flume]

Both medium and heavy

[hollow gust]

then your sync is shit

[sharp socket]

is sushi shelling damage less equal or more than her barrage damage

[barren tapir]

same rates like elite = 2.5%, gold = 2% iirc

[stark quiver]

just pick a gun that sync with other ships

[reef flume]

You really think I care about sync when I am using that gun?

[hollow sail]

numbers are on the other server

[barren tapir]

and yes it's for thebanner the ship is in like perseus will be in special banner at 2% drop rate as an example

[crisp raven]

(i forget specific numbers, so using these for example purposes) say an SR is 1% off banner. selecting her for ww will make her be 2%. banner doesnt matter. it works off of rarity. in game has the rates, but im not in atm to get correct values.

[sharp socket]

so if i give her twin 410k she becomes good in all armor

[viscid swift]

getting a specific SR or elite from a pool is less than 0.5%

[hollow gust]

,what i mean is if your unsynced 460 is beating a synced izumo then you arent running the correct timings for izumo

[barren tapir]

i think i mathed getting janus from light pool rn would be on average 1/384 or smth low like that

[south sequoia]

No point in trying to argue or convince

[hollow gust]

the amount of overlapping BB buffs these days are extremly strong

[south sequoia]

whats done is done

if they mourn the loss of their plates thats on them

[hollow gust]

maxing 460 is fine, thats the best way for BBs to keep up with CV timings, but saying its better then izumo in a BB comp is just

[reef flume]

She still gets the buffs from Alsace and Vanguard + all possible Helena scans. Yamato gun gets only Alsace debuff, Vanguard debuff only for first salvo and Helena scan first salvo (also second one but for barrage only). Yet I get better results with 460

[stark quiver]

mb for the confusion, i meant
so if the UR banner is based on special pool
and the ship i picked for WW is say heavy, then i cant get said ship from pulling ur banner?

[barren tapir]

oh 1 in 386 i was slightly off

[reef flume]

I could give you pictures if you want. I'd never make such a hot take without proofs to back me up

[barren tapir]

i believe you need to pull on permanent pools

[viscid swift]

I don't quite know what you're saying but remember perma UR ships won't ever appear in UR event pools

[barren tapir]

to pull for wishing well ships you gotta do it on perm, they're only rate up on perm

[stark quiver]

i meant aquila

[viscid swift]

well if the event is based on the special pool you could have a chance at her, said chance would be very low but

[crisp raven]

the event banner and WW are 2 separate banners. thats why ww's are usually cube/noob baits. any ship in special banner during the event is pullable. any ship in ww up to the cut off is selectable.

[stark quiver]

ah, so thats what i was missing

[viscid swift]

The trouble is I haven't been able to confirm events are drawing from a very recent iteration of the perma polls for a while now

[barren tapir]

for special pool it's 1 in 429 for any specific gold ship

[crisp raven]

yeah, ww doesnt affect event banners. that would be fucking busted

[hollow gust]

i mean feel free, doubt you ar pulling off the correct timings if 460 winds

[barren tapir]

hardly busted, it would just make it more friendly

[stark quiver]

highly unfortunate, i either pull for UR or aquila, and ngl i want aquila more

[crisp raven]

it would cost the devs a lot, so busted

[barren tapir]

you can only pick 2 ships per ww anyway, that's 4 per year and half of those clash with a UR event it's kinda painful

[viscid swift]

you could pull for both, I wasted like 400 cubes on Minneapolis one WW only for her to get added to the medal pool few months later.....

[reef flume]

Sending them in dms if that's fine for you

[barren tapir]

there is also no pity

[hollow gust]

minnie

[hollow gust]

just send here?

[crisp raven]

at least with a ur pity, you can kind of calculate your risk for pulling both. just gotta plan ahead for it.

[reef flume]

Too tired to actually discuss with multiple people in a discussion that could become very long. That's why I'd rather sending them in dms

[stark quiver]

welp, its time to save cubes ig, no cubing

[white agate]

you could just cube only when your other researches looks bad tho

[stark quiver]

we get around 200~ cubes a month as an active player right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[weary gust]

Nearly double that.

[viscid swift]

double would take quite the effort

[weary gust]

"Active player" was the phrase.

[barren tapir]

double that if you tryhard for comms, maybe

[weary gust]

2-3 cubes per day from comms, = 120 + guaranteed per month.

[viscid swift]

that would be almost 8 additional cubes a day

[barren tapir]

that's not nearly double that that's going from 200 to 320 and 200 already factors in some from comms

[weary gust]

What's guaranteed per month? 168?

[viscid swift]

yes

[barren tapir]

is the 168 including cruise pass i forgot

[weary gust]

So ~300 per month for an "active" player is a good estimate.

[barren tapir]

so more realistic guaranteed is 178 right

[hollow gust]

you arent pulling anywhere near 400, 300 is already close to the limit

[stark quiver]

ill just put it at 250

[barren tapir]

i think 220-250 makes sense for an active player, higher requires rather extraordinary luck or excessive c1 grinding

[viscid swift]

Sam prefers to call it 2*168 + 20 every 2 months which I rather agree with tbh

[barren tapir]

technically u can raise it more (slightly) by considering how during rerun events you get +1 extra cube/day by using build tickets for the build mission

[reef flume]

Cubes a month? Including EVERYTHING, and even potential rewards like surveys or events, you could even get 293 cubes in a month

[weary gust]

2 cubes per day from comms seems to me like a very low bar, and that'd be 220 per month.

Active should be at least 3 I'd think.

[barren tapir]

as well as some event map clears and handouts periodically so average 250/month is sufficient for active player...300 if very grindy

[stark quiver]

when is cna again?

[viscid swift]

late May

[barren tapir]

what is your cube comm luck bc for me it's about a 15% success rate some days i do receive like 5-6 cubes or even more but many days i get 0.

and i grind the shit out of c1

[viscid swift]

and the events lasts for 3 weeks till mid June

[crisp raven]

if comms gave guaranteed cubes, sure. but since its rng, id rather work off of a low bar estimate than the best case.

[stark quiver]

6*250
so abt like 2600 cubes for cna, not minusing event pulls, haha

[viscid swift]

I don't think I've ever gotten a day where I get 0 additional cubes but yeah you can definitely low roll

[barren tapir]

how are we defining active anyway

[weary gust]

I haven't paid attention in detail to my cube comms rewards for over a year, but I feel like I regularly get cubes from at least 2-3 of my comms per day, and some of those drops are more than 1 cube.

[barren tapir]

how

ive had multiple days where numerous comms are well done without a single cube perfect

[undone plover]

this is my cube income from coin+merit shop and comms fwiw
i am "fairly active"

[weary gust]

"active" is someone who logs on every day and clears all their daily stuff, does not spend all possible resources.

[crisp raven]

and new event story split rewards 5 cubes as well (i think the collab intentionally different). those 5 will add up from now to cna

[weary gust]

They keep up with comms/research/booking

[barren tapir]

then there's no fucking way. i deliberately grind for comms and im not getting that many lol

i am not a SUPER hard c1er like veerra for example but im nearly at 999 adapts halfway thru the month so...

[viscid swift]

okay I should also preface when it comes to overnight commissions I count them for the next day as that's when I finish them rather than the day I start them which might be skewing results a bit

but obviously total numbers don't change

[hollow gust]

0 cube days are reaaly rare

[weary gust]

Wasn't it you Goose who said 4 cubes per day was your average?

[barren tapir]

they kinda arent that rare some days you get 0 long comms with cube

some days merchant/enemyatk just refuse to proc for me

[errant frigate]

How do I get laffey javelin or z23 if I retired them

[weary gust]

They can drop in all maps beyond w3.

[vague fable]

farm

[eager mulch]

they drop in a lot of stages

[viscid swift]

unfortunately their drop rates are actually pretty low

[barren tapir]

i think about 20-25% of my days are just 0 cubes from comms which i wouldnt call rare at all.

and even if i get lots of cube comms, the success rate isnt exactly high.

[crisp raven]

every map from world 2 to the end has them as drops. and theyre in the gacha (dont pull for them spoecifically)

[barren tapir]

also my current adapts

(ive also finished most of opsi stuff and i spend all my oil in ch12)

[stark quiver]

[hollow gust]

that was 1 month of farming the shit out of urgent comms, never doing that again

[white agate]

why is ancho 71?

[barren tapir]

just to show you i do play actively yet have 0 cube days

[dreamy blade]

some cube comms are 6/8hrs so you also dont exactly get a lot of chances at them daily

[hollow gust]

thats why you farm urgents

[barren tapir]

some days i get as many as 10 but it's all rng which was my point

[crisp raven]

part of a leveling fleet

[barren tapir]

also for my experience...gem comms have higher chance to give gems than cubes give cubes

[weary gust]

With enough numbers rng becomes predictable. That's why we are talking average per day.

[barren tapir]

she's still being coined up

[viscid swift]

so yeah 3 additional per day is about the limit it seems for someone that's particularly active

[hollow gust]

2 weeks of no 0 comm

[barren tapir]

yes but im talking exact values bc ppl are saying 0 cube days are very rare and they're not exactly rare for me. and im not someone who is barely logging in, either

[sharp socket]

you guys get cubes in comms? i thought it was a meme scam like UL researches

[weary gust]

The gem comms are the scams.

[stark quiver]

nah
ive gotten +20 dock from it

[sharp socket]

i think this month i only got like 3 cubes from comms

[dreamy blade]

i think auroras cube comm rng is just balancing out his gem comm rng

[barren tapir]

i havent kept track of my cube comms in data per se

but i believe my rate is about 20%

my gems on the other hand is 32.56%

[hollow gust]

now thats just skill issue

[weary gust]

That's just not being active.

[sharp socket]

well i dont login more than twice a day

[barren tapir]

ive seen DR ULs a couple times (i skip bc cubes more important to me tho)

[weary gust]

How long are you on for when you do log in?

[sharp socket]

i spend all my oil and do some opsi, so like 1h 30mins

[viscid swift]

yeah that's closing in on login warrior/casual than "active"

[weary gust]

So you only do 1-2 rounds of comms per day?

[forest palm]

just set AL to the side as you work, simple

[sharp socket]

i usually reach the tail end of my daily good comms

[stark quiver]

i log in a few times a day
that being said each session is a few hours long

[weary gust]

You should be getting way more than 6 cubes in 14 days then.

[barren tapir]

also i think ppl may be not quite realizing the exact values of cube comms

most give more than 1, so you might be mentally averaging it out lol

[viscid swift]

yeah I burn through that before the afternoon usually

[sharp socket]

guess ill start tracking them

[viscid swift]

like, even if you can't be logged in all the time try checking back in every hour or 2 to cycle through commissions

[undone plover]

u probably made more
as long as u do your overnight comms and your first daily comms u are making decent cubes from comms

[sharp socket]

i cant do that cause i do alot of other stuff in the day and i only play it on pc now

[barren tapir]

daily extractions give 1

30min fleet gives 1

6 hour is 1 iirc (night comm)

7-8 hour is 2 (8 has low chance of 3 i think)

merchant 1 = 2

merchant 2 and 3 = 3 iirc, maybe chance of 4?

enemy 1 = 2
enemy 2 = 3
enemy 3 = 4 (maybe chance of more, i dont know)

the 3-5 hour ones in daily comms is 1-2 iirc

[sharp socket]

so at best its morning afternoon and midnight that i play

[viscid swift]

well that explains it

[weary gust]

What voodoo math is this

[barren tapir]

the cube results from different commissions i've seen

[sharp socket]

my previous phone imploded because i played AL too much on it so im not gonna do that anymore

[white agate]

averaging output of specific commission

[barren tapir]

so most give more than 1 by default

[quartz jungle]

What lol

[barren tapir]

it's not average, it's fixed values.

[viscid swift]

I've never seen a commission give more than 4 cubes besides the 12 hour ones and even 4 is quite rare, seen that less than maybe half a dozen times in the 4 years I've played AL

[barren tapir]

what im saying tho is ppl may be mistaking their cube comm rng as like "i got 1-2 per day" when actually it's a 0 day followed by a 4 drop

[weary gust]

"Average"

[barren tapir]

i think 4 is only from enemy attack 3 (6 hour urgent)

[sharp socket]

is that not still 2 per day

[barren tapir]

yes but it means they have 0 cube days like i am having

[weary gust]

I don't think anyone was arguing that 0 cube days don't happen?

[sharp socket]

anyway ill go track my cube comms and get back to yall on this in a month or so

[barren tapir]

this was an enemy attack 3

[barren tapir]

im just counter arguing theyre not rare at all, ballpark estimate is 20-25% of my days give 0 cube but im not like tracking it, i could be off but it's the general feel.

[viscid swift]

well it could just be a bought of bad rng

[crisp raven]

dont worry too much about tracking the comms. its more about doing your best to not let a 1 or 2 hour completed comm sit there for 6+ hours. try to redeem and start new ones when you can, even for 30 seconds of play then log off.

[barren tapir]

also some days it feels like urgents refuse to spawn lmao like occasionally i will go hours without a single one

or droughts with only garbage comms

[sharp socket]

i do that alot i think i know why now

[weary gust]

That do be how it is.

[undone plover]

dfg posted this a while back if u are interested about cubes from comms #gameplay-help message

[barren tapir]

comms are rng and unpredictable so to me, it's best to low ball them when providing income estimates

sure, you have days where you get 3-4 gem comms and 8-10 cube comms, but other days you get nothing but coin comms.

[sharp socket]

i see oil and coin comms alot more than i see cube comms personally

or i just dont get urgent comms at all some days when i grind

[viscid swift]

well all of us do

[barren tapir]

tbh the rate probably is 1/3rd just like gem comms trend for me, im probably just doing the human thingy of remembering negative events more since i'm not explicitly tracking those

[weary gust]

Aint no way gem comm success rate is higher than 1/5

[icy cave]

You can play on a virtual phone if you don't want your mobile phone to implode

[weary gust]

That is what he's doing.

[barren tapir]

atm

total 43
fail 29
success 14
rate 32.56%
total gems 308
gems/success 22
gems/comm 7.16

[sharp socket]

thats why i play on bluestacks now

[icy cave]

Not on PC, but on mobile

So you can play it on the go if you wish to

[weary gust]

... why would you emulate on a phone instead of playing it directly, and how would that be any better.

[white agate]

i mean, i just do auto x3 and then lock screen plus 0 brightness
sometimes tho the game does weird things

[barren tapir]

havent seen a gem comm in a few days tho tbh but ive also not been playing nearly as much this week

[sharp socket]

i am use iphone so i don't think id be able to do that anyway

[icy cave]

And it doesn't heat up your device

[dreamy blade]

bro has had 9x the amount of gem comms as i've gotten

[icy cave]

Doesn't heat up the device if that's what he's concern with, it's super low load

[undone plover]

bro also has 800 adaptive tuning in opsi
Not making fun btw I also do the same when I am not slacking

[icy cave]

It's called redfinger if you're interested in trying out, sadly a paid subscription tho. Just a suggestion!

[dreamy blade]

i dont think im slacking but im only a bit over 300 adapts

[sharp socket]

nevermind then

[weary gust]

I have just over 200 adapts and I'm not slacking opsi (on pace to finish everything in opsi by end of month and spending all natural AP). Having 300+ adapts at this point means you're going way hard.

[barren tapir]

more than like 300 adapts means c1 farmer anyway it's a meme metric

[sweet delta]

you guys have over 100 adapt?

[barren tapir]

the real metric is these '

[stark quiver]

c1 farm?

[barren tapir]

ofc

[white agate]

high roll on akashi spawn rate?

[stark quiver]

i might have to start c1 farming, dude i have like 8 gold boxes

[dreamy blade]

i have 8blue/7purp/6gold

[barren tapir]

i think slightly above average. i started this month with an ungodly bad streak that took me from 1500 ap to 60 to 200 to 20 before it finally began going up i was stressed

[weary gust]

c1 farming is hell and not recommended for those who wish to stay sane.

[white agate]

tho c1 does not have cat nodes and i need rainbow blueprints

[dreamy blade]

yeah if im grinding with strategic search it's for cat nodes

[undone plover]

more AP means more c3/c5 means more cat nodes

[crisp raven]

but also more time away from events and w12+ that has more exp

[white agate]

yes, but when i tried doing c1 on average i was losing ap; i did that for only 1 week tho

[undone plover]

can happen
u can track and quit on a high note
and also u are likely to pull ahead if u commit but not worth doing casually

[forest palm]

not worth the sanity loss

[undone plover]

~~cant lose what u dont have ~~

[forest palm]

honestly C1 farming will always be a trap to me, what you gain from it is just a waste of time

[coarse heron]

I don’t do any farming until end of month

Then I just do C5 farm cause I’m impatient

[weary gust]

You need more than 1 day to farm all your resources from opsi.

[undone plover]

I think the best value for time is doing c3 over c5 if u are trying to increase gains
assuming bare minimum is doing c5 with excess AP

[barren tapir]

you do it when waiting on morale or after spending your daily oils. it's the thing you do after you did everything else for me, i just leave it on running in the background tbh

[weary gust]

You should be spending 200-300 AP per day (daily regen of AP + AP crates) to complete everything in opsi by the end of the month.

and then on last day you can dump what's left over.

[white agate]

yes, problem is akashi spawns can make you go mad

[undone plover]

also the dreaded 31/32nd day of the month strategy can be very worth if u get lucky

[forest palm]

I think for the average player C5 is enough, while C3 will be there if you are interested in grinding, and C1 just exists if you are sweaty about things

[coarse heron]

You only regen 144 AP per day though

[barren tapir]

c3 you want to begin doing 2 days before reset it took me quite a while to get rid of 3k+ ap lol

and i barely finished it all before reset, you can stay in opsi ofc but not a fan of it

[coarse heron]

So I don’t think you need to go that hard

[weary gust]

Yes, so you should also be using a few blue crates and a yellow or some purples per day too.

[undone plover]

yeah i wouldnt leave it all for last day either

[forest palm]

though for me who has been playing ops since its release I can just do C5 because I'm rich

[coarse heron]

Im not one to talk though I went through all my AP crates last night doing nearly 40 hidden zones

“Fuck it we ball” and did them all at once

[weary gust]

I mean if you have time to grind it all out early, then great. But "on pace" is using a few AP crates per day and not capping out on AP.

[white agate]

yep, i do all opsi the first 3 days, then dailies and end of the day/month c5 dump

[weary gust]

Just don't leave everything till the last day of the month because there is not time to do all explorable zones + hidden loggers + abyssal nodes in a day.

[crisp raven]

the extra effort for c1 or 3 just sounds too daunting. id personally consider buying more ap with oil and dumping it into c5 before putting that much extra attention into opsi.

[coarse heron]

I always forget you can spend oil on AP

[barren tapir]

oil to ap feels like a huge scam

[forest palm]

having to play Ops less, and streamlining it down to a few basic actions per day is honestly far more appealing

[undone plover]

if u want some quick value for your time and monthly reset time is convenient for you do this:
login 5 mins before monthly reset
go to opsi and stay in opsi for the reset (opsi will not reset until u leave it)
u can get an extra set of daily missions (6-7 missions)
last month I got 5 plates and an abyssal coord (10 plates)
so 15 plates for 5 mins investment
then leave and go back inside and it will reset like normal
Ofc u can also get useless missions

[barren tapir]

yeah i found that out by accident last month hehe

[sweet delta]

exposing dalao secrets

[crisp raven]

it most def is. i only did it the frist week opsi came out and havent converted oil to ap since.

[barren tapir]

i dropped a c6 abyssal with no ap left to do it (from daily) i didnt really want to sit around waiting for 15 hours

[undone plover]

that is when u buy AP with oil

[crisp raven]

agreed. a few searchs a day, dump the rest near the end of the month. chill. ez

[forest palm]

I've eaten Oil for AP, and I'd do it again tbh

[sudden sparrow]

Y'all, is this good for Shimakaze?

[barren tapir]

...okay i genuinely didnt think of this. the one time itd have been worth LOL

but also i think my fleets were completely whack for levelling purposes anyway. idk

[hollow sail]

is nice but not worth spending what little electronics you have in it right now

[undone plover]

learn from mistakes
are you attempting hard arbiter btw?
even if u cant kill u should try it
u get rewards for getting HP to certain threshholds

[sweet delta]

not something that someone with 27 electronics should be getting

[weary gust]

run c1 for gem comms to get gems to buy oil to turn into ap to run more c1

[zenith heron]

Yes but expensive... do As you wish

[coarse heron]

That’s the top barrager gun last I checked but you don’t really need it.

[barren tapir]

tried already got to 54%, will be nabbing the 50% at the end of this month for sure

[coarse heron]

This month’s Harbiter was pretty easy I could have two fleeted it if I didn’t fuck around with my 4th fleet

[zenith heron]

76mm though is more cost efficient right as a Torp Barrage gun?

[stark quiver]

use the pink fleet

[hollow sail]

just use single 76mm for now, it performs almost the same

[barren tapir]

good for pure barrage dd but a minor upgrade over single blue thing and very pricey for what it is

[coarse heron]

It’s meant for people with boat loads of OpSi mats

[barren tapir]

i still made one for nana lol

[zenith heron]

Which in this case, I guess he shouldn't unless he has a lot

[barren tapir]

so with that fleet i basically have 2 functionalish fleets and 1 fleet that exists, and 1 fleet that's full of levelling shitters

its fun but probably not the ideal distribution of my strong ships currently

[sweet delta]

nana's performance against bosses was killed but she's still good for mob

[undone plover]

what happened to her

[sweet delta]

testing

[barren tapir]

fully expected that tbh cos her barrage pattern is relatively wide

oooh i see the pink sisters got updated rankings called it on momo plants being godmode in ch14

[pseudo saffron]

Returning player after 2 years, any tips on new mechanics or good new ship banners?

[undone plover]

next thursday we get new event
save cubes for that
do 1 light build/day

idk about new mechanics in last 2 years but do your opsi
grind daily for xp/gold
do research and shipyard
u will soon catchup

[slate siren]

is there a way to turn off backline full art during battle?

[late flame]

nope

[viscid swift]

that's about the gist of the major changes, new retrofits, and main campaign additions

[undone plover]

can turn off the BG art I think at least

[slate siren]

i did

some ships still take up the whole screen

[late flame]

sweep when

[pseudo saffron]

How do I get gems again for skins?

[viscid swift]

pay money mainly

[late flame]

spend money

[pseudo saffron]

Damn

What’s the most worth it pack

[undone plover]

depends what u want to buy
but for gems and skins nothing beats the gem packs with first time double bonus

[pseudo saffron]

Does next Thursday event bring new ships?

[undone plover]

yes. we will know more in 2 days with JP stream

[soft raft]

namely this upcoming event is a UR one and those are always worth going for

[pseudo saffron]

Oh nice

[undone plover]

most likely UR event so u want to save your and start grinding the returnee missions for coobs if u are low on them

[elfin hollow]

do i need to clear the dreamwaker's butterfly war archive in order to get kashino from the special construction pool, or is she just so rare that its basically impossible to build her without the event?

[keen sable]

All double gem is basically the same

[undone plover]

she is already in the pool

but u dont want to spend cubes there
it is very unlikely u will get her
if u want to get her for some reason wait for wishing well in May or August

[elfin hollow]

is that when the next one is gonna be?

[late flame]

i forgot if there is ww during chinese new year though hmm

[undone plover]

yes, wishing well is during CN anni and EN anni for us

[elfin hollow]

ah gotcha, thanks dude

[soft raft]

Wishing well? Yes
Tho keep in mind that May is also a UR Event (And it's CN Anniv)

[pseudo saffron]

Also does TB give any rewards or become usable? Or is she just a secretary

[soft raft]

secretary

[pseudo saffron]

What’s the point then

[stark quiver]

secretary

[pseudo saffron]

lol

[keen sable]

who do you think is in charge when you use auto

[pseudo saffron]

I’m like triple the amount of my max oil and can’t claim rewards that include oil, tf do I do with all of it

[sharp socket]

spend it

[keen sable]

You can dump oil by buying dorm food. But that's all it is. A dump. Dorm food has no real value

[sharp socket]

farm w12, else wherever oilcap (w9+)

[undone plover]

use multiple fleets to farm if morale is an issue
u can spend all that oil in no time

[hollow sail]

sorties for slower option, naval curry/opsi AP for instant option

[pseudo saffron]

What does this mean

[soft raft]

just go grind
Also if you're worried about claiming from your HQ buildings, at one point you can afford to just mostly not give a shit about them

Definetly can ignore the gold since you ideally want to maintain a hefty sum (like 200k+) at one point
The oil one depends on how much you grind

[sharp socket]

spend oil autoing campaign

[pseudo saffron]

Ok ty

[keen sable]

You can start by running long com

[pseudo saffron]

That’s a lot of gold damn

[soft raft]

the actual resource caps are 25k oil and 600k coins

[pseudo saffron]

Is getting instant level 70 pack worth it if I’m already level 52? How long will it take to get to 70 normally

[jaunty vault]

money's worth is subjective to the player
so is time taken to advance levels
level 70 should be achievable in about a month or two of starting the game

[undone plover]

what is your current fleet and what are their levels?

[pseudo saffron]

These

+essex

[opal stirrup]

Guys do drop rate decrease with your level. I have reach level 97 and farm 8-4 more than weeks now and the drop ship keep remain like this, no new ship for the last 3 weeks even no new purple ship.

[undone plover]

imo go farm war archive for oil cap maps until event
then farm event
no need to buy the level 70 pack at this point

[viscid swift]

No Unicorn = bad

[pseudo saffron]

Ok ty

[undone plover]

farm divergent chessboard if u have less than 600 ironblood tech
get to D4 map
and use your HELP tickets there

[pseudo saffron]

Ok 👍

If I clear hard stages do the normal ones also get cleared

[undone plover]

and your fleets need some reshuffling and replacing some units
make a thread if u want fleet advice
post your dock there

[undone plover]

they are unrelated
u have to 3 star all normal maps in a chapter to unlock the hard mode for that chapter

[elfin hollow]

u have to clear the normal one first in order to clear the hard mode stage

[pseudo saffron]

Posted

[strange sphinx]

what are the other Yorktown class carrier? I only know three being Enty, YK, and hornet

[coarse heron]

Yeah there’s only 3

[strange sphinx]

is YK 2 considered to be Essex class or no?

[soft raft]

Yes

[coarse heron]

Yeah she’s Essex class

[strange sphinx]

[coarse heron]

You can even go see Yorkbruh 2 in real life

[strange sphinx]

oh, she didn't got sunk hah

[eternal moth]

But not Enty 😦

[eternal moth]

The first one did, the Yorktown class. The second one was Essex, and that one's a museum

[strange sphinx]

I Mean I know the first got sunk in battle of midway

[coarse heron]

You can go visit Yorkbruh 1 too, you just need a submarine to do it

[viscid swift]

yeah that was CV-5, Yorktown 2 is CV-10

[strange sphinx]

no wonder she have "Fighting lady" Skill it is a nickname

oh well, gonna go back in topic... in terms of explorable farming, Uni + 5 UR/DR right? Opsi I mean

[stark quiver]

at that point idk if u even need uni

[eager mulch]

5 x 2 =10

[strange sphinx]

tell that to Lexington Essex class

[sharp comet]

if i have 600k coins, does any overflow go to the coin storage in mail?

[hollow gust]

No

[eager mulch]

[pseudo saffron]

How do I get exp books?

[coarse heron]

Once you hit 600k you can no longer earn coins unless you spend them, they just vanish

[undone plover]

main source is lecture hall
by sortieing level 100+ ships u store xp in the hall then it passively converts it to xp books

[elfin hollow]

is uncollected materials disappearing me doing something wrong or just a normal thing that happens

[late flame]

its normal

[nocturne glade]

When should I look to start getting more fleet tech points? I just cleared 9-1, but I see a lot of ships from the divergent chessboard war archive from the guide on ECGC

[undone plover]

Farming divergent chessboard or ch9 is same xp/gold
so if your fleet is decently levelled u can farm KMS tech while waiting for commander level to increase

Divergent chessboard is a bit annoying cuz of the hull restrictions and stat requirements but it should be doable

U can also start raising a second fleet in ch9 then going for DC a bit later

[high sentinel]

Musashi > NJ right?

[nocturne glade]

I see, I guess ill take a look at DC and then if I dont have the reqs then Ill stay in ch9

[undone plover]

Ignore the A and B maps

[eternal moth]

Yeah, even C1 of Divergent Chessboard can be rough to start because of the torpedo requirements. The recommended beginner fleet only has your starter with torps, so you won't have any other high-end torp ships to get going

[hollow sail]

this happens when you pick up the "siren alarm" which technically you can manually check for with the scan button, but it's not something that will change much whether you do or don't

[undone plover]

@nocturne glade I should say with upcoming event likely being ironblood u might not need to farm WA for KMS tech

[nocturne glade]

ah interesting, ty!

[coarse heron]

what do I start buying next, Plymouth gun BPs?

[stark quiver]

what do u have rn

[uneven cave]

Wait how do you get a darker UI

[coarse heron]

have a graphical glitch caused by running your emulator in CPU only mode

I don't recommend it

[uneven cave]

Oh yeah no I'd rather not glitch a 4070

[north topaz]

Which of the Senran Kagura ships are the best to use?

[coarse heron]

okay guess I'll buy Plygun BPs

[stark quiver]

homura (for speedrun harby memes) and fubuki are good

[hollow sail]

fubuki was serious missed potential

her barrage sucks too much

[cedar willow]

do we have cat guide?

[stark quiver]

do /cats in #bot-spam

[cedar willow]

many thanks

[little tree]

~~ cats are a scam ~~

[late flame]

i mean, cats do give nice boosts but dang getting rng not to screw up the skills is .. ugh

[little tree]

cats are "Oops where did all my coins go"

[late flame]

and tbh half most of the time i forget they exist
maybe game should force skks to put cats in fleet before sortie||/s||

[gusty olive]

Should I +13 a Georgia Gun?

Also, the fire control (the one that reduce reload time) is worth +13 right?

[eternal moth]

I wouldn't +13 a 457, but the HPFCR is worth it

Or at least wait until we see what we get this next event

[wind hazel]

guess you just don't trust me enough

[gusty olive]

I +13'd one Georgia gun and was about to +13 another so yeah... Guess I'll not do the other

[eternal moth]

What'd you tell him?

[wind hazel]

not to +13 another georgia gun

[eternal moth]

I did one, but yeah, more than that isn't worth it. It's almost exclusively used for mobbing, and you really don't need the extra damage, as it's probably going to overkill anyways

[gusty olive]

Does +13 on all equips di something in damage than just +13 the main gun?

[eternal moth]

Auxes typically get more stats, planes do more damage, torps do more damage

[gusty olive]

I funnily enough, used Georgia Guns on bossing lol

[coarse heron]

Guns and Torps "just" get a better coefficient multipler
Planes get more alpha on their torpedos and bombs
Auxes get more stats

[hollow sail]

+13 guns/torps/planes deal 18% more damage. auxes just have a little more stat increase. and every +13 gear also gives +3% damage in OPSI specifically (this bonus is capped at +20%)

[eternal moth]

It's an 18% damage increase in going from +10 to +13

[plain saffron]

Guns and tops get +18% dmg
Planes +18% on their armaments
Aux +% stats

And the ops siren dmg bonus

[hollow sail]

for auxes it varies

also for planes it affects crash damage in pvp as well

[gusty olive]

Timing with Helena aside, does anyone even use Georgia guns on bosses?

[nocturne glade]

Recently came to my attention that Jeanne has level capped for a while because of limit break, is there anyone that I should replace her with?

[eternal moth]

You should be level breaking the ships you're using.

First question, though: Why is Javelin tanking?

[nocturne glade]

It was working so I didnt necessarily think too much about it

[eternal moth]

You might want to give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[nocturne glade]

might have to read it again yea, ty!

[sweet delta]

then limit break her

[nocturne glade]

wasnt sure if I'd use her later and didnt want to just use the bulins

[late flame]

its either on kearsarge, or when i'm using 3 x 457 guns

[eternal moth]

JdA is useful in certain fights

[sweet delta]

jda makes jav a tank

[eternal moth]

I mean, you aren't necessarily wrong, but I hate it

[hollow sail]

jav is unironically the tankiest in that comp even if all were MLB

[sweet delta]

3 bulins to Nana also makes a "portlandish" tank

[coarse heron]

Bulins aren't so limited that you shouldn't limit break ships you're actively using.

[sweet delta]

but i wont assume they have Nana aug

[nocturne glade]

gotcha

[viscid swift]

I'm a bit more concerned about just about everything else on that fleet

[stark quiver]

ranger

[coarse heron]

eh, it's a new player fleet, you just kind of use what you got.

[late flame]

portland where

[stark quiver]

you can get better than ranger id like to think

[sweet delta]

they have unicorn and they have cats, it's already better than 73% of other similarly leveled players

[viscid swift]

Even new players shouldn't being using that

[coarse heron]

also frankly Ranger is really good

[late flame]

really nice girl

[sweet delta]

get rid of shropshire asap though

[soft raft]

That's only if RNG behaves extremely well

[eternal moth]

This is my secondary server's fleet. I just got Eugen today, to give you an idea of what you can do in a week.

[nocturne glade]

running this on other fleet, but tbh i dont think it makes it much better

[late flame]

in before game hangs because too many launches

[eternal moth]

They put a hard cap on her to prevent exactly that IIRC

[viscid swift]

Blah, just consolidate into one fleet and keep pushing

[stark quiver]

whys the 2nd fleet actually good

[soft raft]

That is frankly alot better besides that BB and you can replace Sara with Unicorn for the time being and stick with 1 fleet

[nocturne glade]

gotcha

[stark quiver]

2 sara

[eternal moth]

What chapter are you on?

[nocturne glade]

9-2 atm

[late flame]

nagami approved

[hollow sail]

you just move uni to the other fleet replacing cesare and keep going

[stark quiver]

also you can use same ships on 2 different fleets?

[viscid swift]

I would not replace the only Bb in the fleet

[hollow sail]

right, he's W9 already

[eternal moth]

Man, I need to find a way to make more coins on that second account

[soft raft]

Only in campaign

[stark quiver]

i have a good idea then

[whole crypt]

events too

[eternal moth]

Currently trying to get to 1k dorm coins so I can get second floor

[whole crypt]

but you know, why waste resouces on a dupe

[eternal moth]

That'll help with farm speed, since then I can put my whole fleet in

[nocturne glade]

i guess ill keep onefleeting like this until I feel like I have the resources for 2

[eternal moth]

That's ideal

[stark quiver]

double guam + laff2, no problem in w15

[viscid swift]

Shimanto, San Diego, Eldridge, etc exist....

[rain hearth]

colorado retro vs monarch?

[sweet delta]

colorado is stronger but not for much longer

[rain hearth]

special aug?

[wind hazel]

unreleased yet

but surely it will make monarch top tier

[hollow gust]

monarch havent been t0 in so long

[jaunty pecan]

augmod just need to make BBarrage to be guaranteed and it's already top tier

[hollow gust]

she is gonna need alot more then that for top tier

the powercreep is insane

[forest palm]

[ivory pawn]

Will also make the barrage one shot everything on screen.

[strange sphinx]

[ivory pawn]

How often do they usually give out special augments anyways, once or twice a month?

[vestal glen]

any other way to get gold other than grinding with oil?

[coarse heron]

Gems

[vestal glen]

im dead broke after retrofitting :/

[eternal moth]

Grind more

[coarse heron]

grind 12-4 harder

[vestal glen]

oil is dead, am im still lvl 53 commander

[coarse heron]

I'm preparing to do 100 pulls right off the bat with the next event, gotta get my coins up more

[coarse heron]

did you check your mail storage for oil?

[vestal glen]

im trying to not waste that

[eternal moth]

I know the feeling mao, I just hit 50 on my second account

[vestal glen]

meanwhile me who alr get tempted on the standard banner, haizz

[coarse heron]

I don't even got 150k gold right now it's shameful

[vestal glen]

i had like 16k left and just 10 pull on standard banner, got archerfish. is she good or not really useful as shes a sub?

[eternal moth]

But why?

[coarse heron]

bro never do more than 1 pull a day outside of events this is why you're broke

[vestal glen]

i pushed 80k by tuesday and wasted it :/

wasted upgrading that is :/

[rain vine]

i mean, archerfish is good, but subs do not matter until w14

[vestal glen]

arrrr

[coarse heron]

the 15k gold you wasted pulling from permanent pool is a much bigger waste than retrofits and limit breaks.

[vestal glen]

fair enough

i hab gambling addiction haizz

[eternal moth]

Even more than the 15k gold, the 20 cubes are the biggest waste

[rocky sand]

should I farm in normal mode or hard mode for stage 3-4?

[rain vine]

you cant exactly farm hard mode

[coarse heron]

You also shouldn't farm 3-4

[eternal moth]

You can only do 3 hard modes a day, but don't feel like you have to farm 3-4

Akaga isn't that great

[rocky sand]

I see

[coarse heron]

They were good ships... 6 years ago when the game came out.

[rocky sand]

how about 7-2?

[vestal glen]

welp, i guess imma be sitting out the next event

[bleak mica]

run hard mode on the furthest chapter you can run

[coarse heron]

and now you're gonna miss out on a UR you'll have to wait 2 years for a second chance at because you pulled for ships you can get at literally any time, now do you see the problem?

[eternal moth]

I have 353 gold, but 160 cubes after a week.

[rain vine]

is that the highest stage your fleet can farm?

[vestal glen]

idk, my consideration was that practically impossible to get UR in 10 pulls so ye

[coarse heron]

it's even harder to get it in 0 pulls.

[rain vine]

UR builds have a pity system at 200 pulls (400 cubes)

[eternal moth]

I got 2 copies of Musashi in 10 pulls last event

[vestal glen]

wait what

[bold cove]

Me too

[vestal glen]

ah shit

[coarse heron]

I got Musashi in my first 10 pull

[bold cove]

With free tickets

[vestal glen]

bruh

well thats nt ig for me

[bold cove]

But the RNG still there, thats why ppl save the cubes, at least 400 before Ur banner

[coarse heron]

I've gotten every single gacha UR ship I have in less than 40 pulls

The Elites? Those are the hard ones.

[bold cove]

But most players not use 400 cubes to get 1 copy

[vestal glen]

wait what

[coarse heron]

UR gacha rates in AL are extremely generous.

[rain vine]

tldr you should be saving cubes as much as possible outside of UR build events

[eternal moth]

I've also had to go to pity 3 times. EU URs hate me for some reason

[bold cove]

True, im around 10 to 50 pulls, the elite is the hardest one

[vestal glen]

i spent 60 last time on musashi.....haizz

[bold cove]

But anyway, im saving till over 1k cubes, youll never know

[eternal moth]

The worst thing to happen is to pull the shop ship first. Then you know your RNG seed is screwed for that event

[vestal glen]

thought the average was like more than 100 or smth

[coarse heron]

UR ships have a 1.2% drop rate, and using some simple math, after 50 attempts you already have a 49.19% chance of getting one.

after 100 pulls you actually need to be lucky to still have 0

[wind hazel]

forgot the exact number it's somewhere there

[vestal glen]

hmm, so should i just save or spend for next banner

[coarse heron]

But since each pull is evaluated in a vacuum there's still a chance of 0 even after thousands of attempts which is why there's a free one after 200 pulls.

[coarse heron]

never spend outside of a banner

[vestal glen]

no yeah, i meant save for the next next UR banner

[woeful pasture]

Where can i find a begginer guide?

[rain vine]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[wind hazel]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[eternal moth]

It entirely depends on what the next UR is

[woeful pasture]

Thank you

[bleak mica]

I was lucky af I claimed 200/200 for YT II

[vestal glen]

why is that

[hollow sail]

there's a 30% chance of you not having the UR by your 100th pull

[eternal moth]

If it ends up not being super useful you might be able to get away with not rolling. If it's a typical UR, though, you're going to want to go for it as hard as you can

[coarse heron]

That actually requires a lot of luck, since 0.988 to the 200th power is 0.0653
Meaning getting to pity is statistically only a 6.53% chance.

[inner delta]

gotta have them all since its new ur

really doubt they gonna make worse

[coarse heron]

26% actually, since it's a 1.2% drop rate.

[bleak mica]

yay

[hollow sail]

your math doesn't check out with my calculator

[wind hazel]

pulling guide in Azur Lane is simple

No event=1 Light daily
New event=pull according to cubes. Low cubes? Skip. A lot of cubes? Try your luck, but reserve enough until next UR event.
New UR event=pull until you get 1 copy of UR ship

repeat until EoS

[inner delta]

30% 26% 50% whats the diff, the real thing is you get or you not

[eternal moth]

We all know that all ships are actually 50/50: You either get them or you don't

[coarse heron]

I made the mistake of trusting a LLM instead of using a calculator

[vestal glen]

haizz, so i guess i just wait on the livestream tmrw huh

[soft raft]

In two days

[plain saffron]

....

[soft raft]

Well ig it's already past midnight here

[eternal moth]

Technically it's about 28 hours

[coarse heron]

"surely it can do basic math, right?"
Narrator: It cannot

[forest palm]

surely you can't just go open the stream and it'll tell you when it starts in your local time...no...

crazy concept honestly

[eternal moth]

Man, I'm jealous of those of you on the East Coast. It's on at 3AM for me

[wild hemlock]

So uh... I dont usually care for metas, but for Nagato I had to.
I have no idea how this works. I had like 15k points and most of the chip things unlocked
Do u actually have to go and MANUALLY COLLECT the stupid things from sync? BC i didnt...
I can awaken her (bc shes lvl 100) but not give her more stars(idk how to say it)

[rain vine]

yes

[eternal moth]

Yes, you had to manually collect the rewards to get her

[sweet delta]

15k wouldnt have been enough anyways, no big loss

[coarse heron]

you would have needed 25k to MLB her anyway

[wild hemlock]

Sadge

[hollow gust]

Man triple sakura is better for harby this month. Implacable sad

[dreamy blade]

theres a collect all button what is stupid about it

[coarse heron]

it's even highlighted when there's rewards to collect

[late flame]

skill issue

[dreamy blade]

which reminds me, when metas get put in the dossier do you keep your sync progress? or does it reset

[late flame]

sync retains

[eternal moth]

Yes, you keep what you had before

[late flame]

in fact if you already hit 70k points* then no dossier

[dreamy blade]

oh neat, yeah i was at 58k or so

[coarse heron]

is there a cutoff to that, cause when I came back, I can see Helena, Ark Royal, and Souryuu on my list for dossier even though I got 70k points with them before Dossier was available