gameplay-help

[barren tapir]

idk what aa im sposed to use besides staag on bb/cvl

i need lot of aa gun most of my ships run purple trash

[left cedar]

depend on ur strategy, Roomba or Sexy/Fast Fire

[storm heron]

cant go wrong with twin57

[crimson glacier]

staag on cvl sounds awful

[barren tapir]

what else am i supposed to use

[coarse heron]

just open USS tech boxes until you got 12 Quad Bofors

[crimson glacier]

any AA gun, it doesnt matter

[barren tapir]

they get my leftovers after bbs isnt hit > no hit

[left cedar]

if u go to roomba, them its roomba everywhere cuz range
if Sexys, then Sexy on AA Carrys and Fast Fire (UR AA) on non AA Carry and Staags in Main ships

[wind hazel]

what's wrong with staag on cvl

[barren tapir]

also not staag atm but hazemayer

[crimson glacier]

with that logic you would give every ship in the game staag

[barren tapir]

i mean should i put them on vg instead

[left cedar]

nothing wrong with Staag on CVL, just low prio, after u finish with ur BBs then u can go to Staags in CVLs

[barren tapir]

why the face, 5 hit > 0 hit

[crimson glacier]

but if you crafted way too many staags for no reason then sure no harm in using them

[whole crypt]

staag on cvl is fine if it's spares after BB

[barren tapir]

i have thousands of aa plates anyway

[zenith heron]

Shouldn't the staple Gold Quadruple 40mm Borfors work as a normal AA accel?

[crimson glacier]

its just awful value to craft staags just to give them to cvls

[barren tapir]

i have exactly two of those, iirc

[wind hazel]

lol it's 500 coin craft from their prints

[storm heron]

u guys have enough staags?

[barren tapir]

and vg takes priority for actual aa guns afaik

[wind hazel]

unless you're crafting through gear lab, now that's another story

[barren tapir]

this isnt from gear lab that was just about sexys

[wind hazel]

yeah so idk what's torva's argument was about

[crimson glacier]

i see roomba range as more useful than hit for cvl

[dreamy blade]

i have a bunch of these from research too

and like 2 gold roombas and 2 gold quad bofors

[barren tapir]

i prioritized my roomba for vg but i'll take that under consideration, ty

[left cedar]

Roomba strategy is roomba everywhere iirc

[barren tapir]

i just figure staag/haze is superior to purple bofors probably

[storm heron]

you don't use more than 2 roombas in a fleet

[whole crypt]

I haven't gone to the depot in about a year for staags so yeh probably enough

[dreamy blade]

i thought you need accelerators somewhere bc roomba is slow

[crimson glacier]

gold is superior to purple in AA guns

[barren tapir]

i was also told all gold > all purple for aa

[crimson glacier]

accelerators are cope imo

[zenith heron]

The Twin 90mm AA 1939 should work

Unless its expensive

[whole crypt]

unless you're using trashcan or something

[left cedar]

Octo pompom is gold ... and i can hardly say that its better than Purple QB

[barren tapir]

the huge range shud compensate, im mostly just looking for reasonable aa to completely ignore planes in majority of content. obviously for ch15 you'd want more optimized setup, i just want like actual guns on my ships

[storm heron]

ngl I thought AA is simple to maximize but apparently not

[crimson glacier]

the thing is that AA basically doesnt exist anywhere when you compare anything to w15

[storm heron]

like accelerators are not even proven to be useful

[dreamy blade]

yeah i just prioritized having good ones on the AA carries and then just w/e gold AA or purp quad bofors on everyone else

[crimson glacier]

in w13 you could use random AA guns just fine as long as you have carriers

[barren tapir]

tbh my og question was "do i need a couple sexys for aa carries eventually or can i just do all roomba" with a side note of "so i get sexys from gearlab or?"

[storm heron]

and having accelrators and roombas on a fleet just means you have low dps

[crimson glacier]

roombas have good dmg

[storm heron]

unless you're using the accelerator

[crimson glacier]

and dps is useless stat for AA gun

[zenith heron]

Then should it be Roombas/Sextuples/ UR Gun as staple?

[barren tapir]

firing speed i feel should only seriously matter if it gets you +1 proc per plane wave, which you'd have to feel out on auto

[dreamy blade]

when i say accelerator

[storm heron]

idk how dps is useless stat when planes are covering the screen

[coarse heron]

because of how AA guns work

[barren tapir]

because if your faster speed doesnt get you +1 proc before your auto vg moves out of range it didnt do anything

[whole crypt]

DPS alone is a useless stat for AA guns

[barren tapir]

if going from 2 procs to 3 procs it's worth but if it's still 2 you just got less dmg/range iirc

[storm heron]

exactly

[coarse heron]

there's a reason this is considered a useless shitpost (don't ask why I have 1)

[storm heron]

AA math is maximization of range and dps

[whole crypt]

and alpha

[barren tapir]

also gold qbofors are rare somehow for what its worth. gold aa in general is weirdly rare i might be unlucky tho. i wouldn have more than 2 roombas without event also

[coarse heron]

rare
open more T4 Eagle boxes

[crimson glacier]

dps is just so useless

[barren tapir]

i open every box i get and i buy out all event shops

[crimson glacier]

its just dmg and range, and if you get 1 or 2 or 3 or whatever shots perwave

its like sorting sub torps by dps

[coarse heron]

oh yeah so who gets the UR AA gun anyway for W15? The main AA bote or what?

[storm heron]

depends on what other AA gun you have

[crimson glacier]

isnt the optimal fleet just 5 rainbows and 1 sextuple or something stupid like that

[coarse heron]

I can do any of the main combinations that don't involve multiple rainbow AA guns

[barren tapir]

oh i think one of my bofors i got thru research actually...they drop there

[whole crypt]

I'd probably go rainbow plus roomba

[coarse heron]

right so who gets the rainbow then? the AA boat?

[atomic abyss]

no actually

[whole crypt]

but play around with it and don't use shit AA ships?

[atomic abyss]

iirc its sextuple for the AA DPS and rainbow for everyone else

[storm heron]

but roomba has higher alpha

[barren tapir]

is sextuple worth it over roomba

[storm heron]

so to maximize the alpha we go put roomba in AA carry no?

[barren tapir]

roomba is 130 damage, sexy is 150

[crimson glacier]

rainbow and sextuple have better alpha

[whole crypt]

depends somewhat on who the carry is and who the other ships are

[barren tapir]

i guess without rainbows you'd do sexy on aa carry and roomba others

[storm heron]

so roomba is just pure range diff the other two

[coarse heron]

Roomba has so much more range

[barren tapir]

range diff is pretty big tbh keep in mind range potentially allows for another salvo

or better pathing/consistency on auto which is pretty big too

[left cedar]

Roomba is "better" in auto cuz of range, but in W15 planes still just gives a shitty and still go through when they came in great amount

[whole crypt]

range difference is more apparent between roomba and sext, rainbow is in the middle

[left cedar]

thats why u wanna roomba everywhere, cuz higher range higher chance to hit once in auto, but still some will go through cuz less dmg

[barren tapir]

28 30 35, so roomba still nice range over rainbow

i figure it's sexy carry + rainbow others + roomba if not enough rainbow. with staag on bb

[dreamy blade]

outside of w15 do you just run the aa gun with the +15 fp on everyone

[coarse heron]

you just use whatever

you don't bother wasting mats crafting the FP AA

[crimson glacier]

i usually just equip quad bofors coz i have so many

[barren tapir]

that fp gun looks like a slower roomba tbh. 132 alpha and 35 range but super slow firing

[crimson glacier]

it doesnt really matter

[left cedar]

once u have plenty of meta ships, yeah, 134 can work in W13 ... but tll there, it will be a long work

[storm heron]

then would it be best to put sexy on carry, rainbow on second best, and roomba on the lowest AA since you utilize roomba for its range anyways

[barren tapir]

its probably optimal in low plane areas but they cost electronics so

[left cedar]

134 is shitty once its about take down planes

[crimson glacier]

its not that bad

[left cedar]

and truste me, i have several of them +13, and still dosnt work

[barren tapir]

its basically roomba but you will only hit plane waves once

[crimson glacier]

unless you talk w15

[coarse heron]

honestly I'd almost be tempted to try out the Twin 90mm Italian AA gun since it's in theory got decent damage capability.

[barren tapir]

you shouldnt be using them in heavy plane content but they would be fine in normal content

[barren tapir]

i mean it's just quad bofors but with 3 more range iirc

[crimson glacier]

and slightly more dmg

[barren tapir]

its good if you get from research but not worth protocoring or anything

[crimson glacier]

wait im reading different lines

[coarse heron]

same alpha

[storm heron]

pasta gun better than quad yes

[barren tapir]

0.01s faster and +3 range, the range is the big deal

[crimson glacier]

i was thinking of 134s dmg compared to roomba

[cobalt rapids]

the strongest slot takes sextuple
the others take rainbow by slot prio order

[storm heron]

pasta gun still lose to roomba right

[coarse heron]

this one is an intriguing idea too, but idk if it's worth crafting

[barren tapir]

yes

[storm heron]

that's even worse than roomba

[barren tapir]

looks like a roomba downgrade honestly. -2 dmg -3 range, firing rate not low enough to matter

[dreamy blade]

[storm heron]

wth is a twin 113

[barren tapir]

also i see gearlab and immediately think 'probably not worth it'

[cobalt rapids]

roomba

[dreamy blade]

roomba

[storm heron]

roomba has 32 range? or the range just become irrelevant suddenly

[whole crypt]

don't overthink AA, just try to avoid shit AA ships if it's 15 and fighters exist

[cobalt rapids]

romba has 35 range

[barren tapir]

yeah just make a fucking sexy if you gonna do this

[storm heron]

range not mentioned

[cobalt rapids]

just use roomba if u want range and dmg

[coarse heron]

well I do have 2 Twin 100mm Type 98s leftover from when people still did PR1 research
I can't figure out a use for them at all

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

i only find dd gun in gear lab huh

[zenith heron]

Fucking wasting 21 electronics is overkill

[barren tapir]

oh they didnt port it into gearlab. weird.

[storm heron]

I'll take yes then

[coarse heron]

yeah it's still PR1 only

[cobalt rapids]

best is 1 sextuple on the highest eff slot and then put rainbows on every1 else

[barren tapir]

126, 1.28, 32

looks meh

[coarse heron]

like it's not bad, it's just ancient garbage

[barren tapir]

roomba powercreep it

[crimson glacier]

how can roomba powercreep anything when its been available since launch

[coarse heron]

it's a Roomba with -3 range and faster reload

[storm heron]

that's not powercreep

[barren tapir]

-4 dmg -3 range 0.08s faster

roomba better

i mean it was already mid on release

[storm heron]

how about just make a function that takes 6 ships with their respective AA stat, eff, and mount, then starts with putting roomba on everyone and do some planes pdf and try to swap in the rainbow and sextuple and see whether the damage increase with airplane speed and AA radius in mind and every iteration just put the result on a table or something

[whole crypt]

don't overthink AA, just try to avoid shit AA ships if it's 15 and fighters exist

[barren tapir]

tldr slap roomba on everyone except bb unless in ch15

[sharp socket]

just rainbow spam AA and itll probably work (for frontline)

[whole crypt]

it would but costs

[barren tapir]

or would it work in ch15 too

[coarse heron]

the only way I can see using it is if you're close enough to another wave of AA shots going off that 0.08s is enough to make them go off

[zenith heron]

So basically saying that

Ships that do not need any good AA gun needs any Gold AA gun unless its w13 to w15

Where they use UR AA gun on any ship in the fleet while

Sextuple/Roombas on AA Carries? Is that correct or am I missing something?

[crimson glacier]

in w13 you could just pick random gold AA guns, and you would need to get unlucky to not win

[whole crypt]

full roomba can work for 15 depending on the fleet but I wouldn't recommend it if you can do better

[sharp socket]

there is twin 90 AA gun for non AA carries replaced by UR AA when you get them

and yes sextuple/roomba for AA carry is correct

[coarse heron]

I made it work for 15-1 and 15-2

[storm heron]

pompoms

[sharp socket]

not enough people do w15 for this to have any single answer tbf

[whole crypt]

you can do 13 with pompoms if you're not skipping on carriers and ACV

[crimson glacier]

i feel like you dont get how much lower powerlevel was in AL when w13 was new

[atomic abyss]

and people tend to forget pom pom AA DPS is high

[whole crypt]

the worst gold AA gun you can be using should be trash can

[barren tapir]

you could probably do ch13 with purple bofors now and good ship

[crimson glacier]

w10 was literal hell when it was new, now no one talks about it

[atomic abyss]

just that the range is ass lol

[cobalt rapids]

people who farm 15 farm it with rainbow guns

[storm heron]

isn't it quad bofors?

[atomic abyss]

lmao no

[barren tapir]

quad bofors is good

[atomic abyss]

the trash can is an accelerator

[whole crypt]

quad bofors is more mid

[atomic abyss]

the q.bofors are actually decent

[storm heron]

wait trash can != pasta gun?

[whole crypt]

trash can is literally trash

[dreamy blade]

quad bofors are the portland of aa guns

[barren tapir]

roomba meta

tho fr ppl were like "just use bofors"

[crimson glacier]

quad bofors was like the most recommended AA gun for first year or 2

[sharp socket]

is trash can the one thats recommended on tai yuan for ectl

[storm heron]

oh trash can the one with the small cylinder

[barren tapir]

so like portland they work up to ch14

[whole crypt]

trash can is francais, the precursor to rainbow AA

[crimson glacier]

like where do you even get these ideas

[zenith heron]

Borfors when there are literally like few of em named the same

[cobalt rapids]

idk who brings portland to w14

[barren tapir]

you don't but ive heard it's possible

but ch13 realistically is her max

[storm heron]

me thinking that the picture above is trash can

[sharp socket]

what is this one's community name

[cobalt rapids]

its possible to bring any ship that you carry hard enough

[wind hazel]

trash can

[barren tapir]

escalators

or staircase aa

[whole crypt]

some call it shield bofors, generally not recommended for anything

[sharp socket]

it does look like escalator to me

[zenith heron]

Its funny how the trash can becomes a UR

[inland shoal]

Well that escalated quickly

[barren tapir]

why does ectl have so many so called accelerators recommended

[sharp socket]

ectl calls it a great accelerator gun for ships with poor AA

[whole crypt]

the OG rubbish bin

[barren tapir]

was this like from an old aa meta

[whole crypt]

the whole point is trying to prioritize accelerators isn't really useful

you don't realistically gain a lot of ROF because abs cd exists and you lose alpha damage overall

[barren tapir]

roomba i heard somewhere that cn started the 'put roomba everywhere' meme

[inland shoal]

The difference between a good accel and a not so good accel isn't really that great

[zenith heron]

That's the point, they are the reason y I upgraded it the first place, when a QB should be enough

[whole crypt]

the best way is to just avoid bringing those "poor AA" ships to plane hells at all

because putting any AA gun on them won't really help

[whole crypt]

that remains true at least up to ch13

[sharp socket]

is ply bad at AA

[barren tapir]

if it works in ch13 would it not work in ch14 also

[storm heron]

pretty sure AA gun performance can be tested in ch15 the same way people tested spearfish there

[whole crypt]

and it was mainly in an era that many newer AA guns don't exist so the jump was between bofors and roomba, which was a huge range disparity

[cobalt rapids]

ch14 is range maxing
theres no ball of planes

so put ur twin 134s and roombas there

[inland shoal]

I mean your w13 setup probably works
But isn't optimal

[storm heron]

I wouldn't say so, I would put the twin57 on her if I were to do ch15

[whole crypt]

14 doesn't have endless waves of planes, good alpha will be good enough generally than thinking too much about ROF or DPS

there's no clear line for bad AA unless you're referring specifically to old DDs particularly IJN ones

[storm heron]

hinden bad for sure

[whole crypt]

Plymouth is 130%/341AA, like above average but not carry

Hindenburg is going to be bad because you're going to use her without AA gun

[zenith heron]

Unless you go normal set for her than going 2 main guns

[whole crypt]

if you choose to bring Hindenburg to a plane hell it's a tradeoff whether you kill fast enough with her, also with the other ships carrying AA

if you're going to bring her with an AA gun why choose to bring her over any number of other ships

[crimson glacier]

i remember trying hinden over unzen in w15 and it felt awful

[storm heron]

probably I will bring hinden there when she reached 120 to farm her to 125 along with houston 2 farming

[ocean orbit]

Should i put Saint Louis here

And grind her

[storm heron]

where are you in campaign?

if you are farming in 9-1 then sure, you can put in saint louis somehow while working towards building a second fleet

otherwise if you haven't reached 9-1, keep your fleet as it is and push there

[ocean orbit]

i have to level up

i finished all chapter but need 60 level for chapter 8

[whole crypt]

go grind in archive, polaris or chessboard D

Saint Louis may not really be useful, given your current levels I don't expect her to be in a usable state

[ocean orbit]

alright so i go for War archives

[whole crypt]

archives are better if you push up to where there's oil cap, until you can hit up ch9

of course move on to clear ch8 once you have the levels, then go back to archive
would be a good time to grind chessboard to collect KMS tech too

[ocean orbit]

okay thanks and also what is techpoint?
i Want to build hindenburg but it requires 850 ib tech which i dont know how to grind

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[whole crypt]

/fleettech this is precisely why you want to collect KMS ships from archive

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[ocean orbit]

Thank you guys have a nice day

[forest palm]

[tough wadi]

Is single Eagle Union ship enough to trigger this?

[rapid grail]

Yes

[opaque gate]

what do u guys do with extra coins? should i waste them all on FDG dev? or is it not worth it when there is no discount

[left cedar]

Cat Reroll, and cat boxes
but i'm a very old player, that already have everything done, and when even cats arent enough i start to gear ships with really gud gears cuz i can

[forest palm]

I sit on it legitimately have 500k right now

#pvp

[wind hazel]

yes, half of them are trash

[opaque gate]

i see thank uuu,, is kitakaze any good somewhere?

[left cedar]

depends on wut is gud to u

[tough wadi]

My bad

[opaque gate]

or is she just a good low cost mob fleet ship?

[storm heron]

she's outshined by ddgs

[opaque gate]

what is ddgs?

[storm heron]

chang chun, an shan, tai yuan

[opaque gate]

thankss, idh them rn so i think she can be fine rn as low cost ship

[storm heron]

so no she is not good anywhere

you can just level her for the 120 fp tech she gives

[opaque gate]

oh.. fck ok thanks

[storm heron]

but otherwise chang chun is free, and LNY is in 2 month where an shan and tai yuan retro item might come back

[opaque gate]

i thought chang chun is UR

[wind hazel]

no she's elite base

[opaque gate]

ahh i see them now, didnt know they were actually strong

[tough wadi]

Where i can get them?

[plain saffron]

1 from shop monthly, then craft up from T2

[tough wadi]

Who is she?

[karmic pebble]

hipper

a purple teir ship from iron blud

[jaunty vault]

well we don't know for sure if she's purple

[left cedar]

Hipper Meta ?

[jaunty vault]

[shell willow]

can be

[left cedar]

shit, taking spot of my Scheer ...

[karmic pebble]

im just sayin, like normal hipper is purple, new one could be anything

[ivory pawn]

She could even be UR!

[left cedar]

Hipper UR ?
OMEGALUL

[atomic abyss]

Well it's most likely a hipper alt

Whether meta or Zwei we can't say for sure

[inland shoal]

Inb4 it's neither

[tough wadi]

Or she got Meta or UR type ship

Dark colors too

[shell willow]

or retro

[late flame]

more importantly she still flat

[novel condor]

Coop

[tough wadi]

I wonder if she gonna keep her tsun lines

[austere hawk]

is there a way to reset pin code if i forgot it?

[atomic abyss]

Email customer support

/techsupport

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

If you experience a specific issue, such as a bug not encountered by others; an issue with your purchase, or loss of items, please contact us by sending us email at [e-mail] or alternatively using in-game system at Settings > Help > Contact Us.

Please do not DM Yostar staff or discord mods about your issues.
Please note that the answer may take a while, so we ask you to be patient.

[austere hawk]

thanks \

[blissful atlas]

does roons new augment bring her up to her muses level? or is muse still better?

[forest palm]

Roon w/ UE should be better than Muse

[inland shoal]

Her muse wasn't much better, augment is a significant boost

Especially in long fights

[tough wadi]

Not really gameplay related but, should i avoid this skin when streaming this game on Twitch? (Musashi OATH skin)

[late flame]

aside from kms tech fodder (for roon) - but neither are really worth the while

[agile sparrow]

What happens when I hit high "UR Exchange" but I already have all the ships?

should I use it?

im 322/400 right now

[plain saffron]

as long as you're not a vtuber anything is fine on twitch

[atomic abyss]

At this point playing AL on twitch is a hazard in and of itself
Musashi's bare ass is considerably less lewd than some of the loading screens

[atomic abyss]

Yes, probably to MLB the ones that aren't mlb

[tough wadi]

Oh boy. Yeah

[atomic abyss]

Well those are more of boobs to the face

[atomic abyss]

Well and also this

[agile sparrow]

all are MLB

[inland shoal]

Just use a better skin in general
But yeah I don't think it's gonna be an issue

[atomic abyss]

Then honestly up to you lol

[inland shoal]

Then wait for the next perma addition or get it for 30 medals
Or keep a skin dupe or sth

[agile sparrow]

Using bulins okay?

[plain saffron]

i would save until next UR

actually nvm, max amagi i think

[agile sparrow]

Sorry I don’t play much but I want to, never got into opsi and the sub commissions (kept dying)

[inland shoal]

I'd just do Amagi especially since I don't see Haku

[agile sparrow]

I want to start playing more

[inland shoal]

Though next UR might be coming next event

[agile sparrow]

I just unlocked drake yesterday lol

[austere hawk]

holy shit AL customer support is lightning fast

[patent raft]

What best ship girl meta either exercise or operation sirens?

[inland shoal]

If I'm being honest I don't really understand the question

[inland shoal]

Sub weekly is very easy with tempesta girls

[late flame]

although whether its worth raising one (if you lack any) is questionable

[patent raft]

I meant, what the best meta ship to use either operation sirens or exercise

[whole crypt]

exercise check #pvp

[agile sparrow]

My SS

[whole crypt]

OS there's no fixed meta many just use Unicorn in mob fleet and call it a day

[patent raft]

Uh huh...

[left cedar]

Nagato probally
till now, Maihou on spot so maybe worth w8 4 it

w8 META fac
or Meta of best ships

[patent raft]

Alright

[whole crypt]

or you could try https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding#opsi_fleet_comps

[left cedar]

also PvP its a complete diff from PvE, so other gears and strategies ...

[patent raft]

Thx

[agile sparrow]

This fleet has been stuck in OpSi since Day1 I don’t know how to complete the map lol 😂

[novel condor]

Uh you can exit the map using the overview button, then you can start doing other zones , the map is already cleared since there's no more enemies or objectives left on the map itself

[inland shoal]

Well with those levels it should also be pretty easy to do if your torps aren't too bad (some ppl also did it with rly bad torps but idk how)

[agile sparrow]

Only have purple torps

[late flame]

ok do you have Royal Fortune?

[keen sable]

You can do everything but the hardest with +3 blue torps so piece of cake yeah?

[sharp socket]

i used 6 bidders for the hardest one

you can do it with subs even if skill issue

[spare mango]

Which is best for musashi in PvE? And what's for Harbiter?

[forest palm]

the gun you have on Daisen

[spare mango]

Is that gun also used against Harbiter?

[crimson glacier]

that purple +11 gun is probably her most versatile gun

[forest palm]

it depends on Armor type, Musashi is better on Heavy/Med, she's pretty mid on Light

[spare mango]

I see thx

[sharp echo]

in general, which one is better? shorter reload fewer quantity or longer reload but more quantity?

for example like 2 torpedo vs 3 torpedo

[cobalt rapids]

depends on torps, battle length, etc
when in doubt just use quad mags

[sharp socket]

quad mag good 95% of the time

[zenith heron]

What context, if you mean the magnetic surface torps

The Quad magnetics are the best you get, and the UR Quints are a niche upgrade,

The Gold Quint is bait tho...

[sharp socket]

for ships with skill proc on torp e.g. anchorage smokescreen, use fast torp like french twin 550

[sharp echo]

oh as long its magnetic its ok to have many torps

yeah im using quad magnetic currently

[sharp socket]

just quad mag everyone cant go wrong

except anchorage french twin 550

[zenith heron]

Its alr to use non magnetic ones, like the one mentioned above me to pair with skills like Anchorage's Smokescreen, which activates based on how fast torps fire...

But Quad Magnetics are the best you can get since well magnetic torps hit a lot especially in auto

[sharp echo]

ya i got what u mean

[mellow cape]

Hamman 2 worth leveling?

[atomic abyss]

Nope
Unless you really need asw
In which just use Eldridge retro who does a lot more

Or unless you need air raid assistance skill and you don't have Kazagumo/Kearsage

[forest palm]

so event starts on the 19th

[storm heron]

hamman II actually has insane utility

[forest palm]

Hamm II is cope

[crimson glacier]

too bad utility doesnt mean useful

[storm heron]

was the issue like her 1694 hp or smth

[mellow cape]

Just trying to make a halford leveling vanguard

[crimson glacier]

bad dmg

[mellow cape]

I'll see what else is open for me

[crimson glacier]

and most of her utility isnt useful on most content

[wind hazel]

ham2 is worth raising if you are lacking ARA ship

[viscid swift]

she's just too fragile

[forest palm]

having utility is a good thing, being blown over by a stiff wind isn't

[storm heron]

well that's unfortunate her stats looks like a test ship for someone in the same camp

[forest palm]

people used to use her in w14, even then it was questionable

[wind hazel]

i used her to clear w13 h

[cobalt rapids]

i used her to clear w15

[mellow cape]

Guess it won't hurt

I'm running out of eagle union ships to lvl

[cobalt rapids]

why do u need uss ships to lvl

[feral ermine]

bug or new update?

[plain saffron]

bug

[mellow cape]

For Dalford tbh, it kinda feels bad slotting in a maxed Laffey 2 for 12-4

[atomic abyss]

guam with 76mm

you do know the 76 isnt the best at shield breaking right

[feral ermine]

its idle not for use

just wanna ask the black background

[wind hazel]

any way to replicate this bug?

[undone plover]

Post your EU vanguards
We can help choose

[feral ermine]

idk, but i try to fix with relog / and restart device the bug still there

[wind hazel]

it looks nicer tbh, dark mode. sorta

[feral ermine]

yes true

[atomic abyss]

iirc it's related to your device and your swiping speed

[undone plover]

I forgot but HELP saves one WA key correct?
But still counts as only 1 run for the 0/60?

[whole crypt]

saves you 1 key if you're map farming
doesn't do squat for counter if you're doing pity

[sharp echo]

only have 17k what should i buy?

[jaunty glade]

for sub weekly missions, do you ever get an auto clear or is it always manual?

[cobalt rapids]

S rank it and u can quick finish it

[jaunty glade]

s rank requires what sorry?

[jaunty glade]

ty this is helpful

[undone plover]

U have momo right?
If so get cog chips and arrays
Augment cores, oil and the rainbow prints
U can also gamble with gold cat boxes but I wouldn’t worry about cats yet

[sharp echo]

ya momo already have

ok ty

[fossil hull]

I have a question about the meta it's ending the 2days and I only reached around 3k points will my progress be save after nagato meta ends? I mean will it still be 3k points if she returns

[undone plover]

Are u exactly 3k?
And have you farmed today’s coords
U can get ~800-900 more tomorrow
At 5k u can get 1 copy at least

[fossil hull]

Yes I'm around lv 9 whenI challenge her there's a 200point limit for each challenge right

[viscid swift]

it's 375 each for your own showdowns at level 15 and up to 75 on assists

[fossil hull]

I mean I can only use 200 coords

I only get 63 per assist

[viscid swift]

yes you are limited to 200 coordinates per day assuming you is all the ones you earn each day

[undone plover]

U can store 200 and get 200 per day
So if u start the day with 200 u can farm another 200
But if u started on 0 cause u did all attempts everyday then yeah max attempts is 2 per day

At any rate I think u are a bit behind
She should dossier(perma) in ~ 1 year so not too bad

[fossil hull]

I used up all attempts today I have 10 coords left

I have 3177 points rn I just unlocked meta showdown the other day and tried to catch up and got to this point

[keen sable]

None, 0, 1, 2 LB is all the same. Useless

[noble osprey]

Guys should I invest into the Prinz Eugen augment? Ive got Portland retrofit lvl 118 and Eugen lvl 110, and Im researching Anchorage atm too.

[forest palm]

Unique's reply is also useless

[undone plover]

That is alright you did your best
I was thinking you might be close but dw about it
She will rerun

[forest palm]

Eugen's UE isn't worth it

[viscid swift]

no

[fossil hull]

I think I can reach 4k before she ends if I had 1 more day I'll be able to reach 5k

[undone plover]

Early game useful augments are
Hood
San diego
Saratoga
Depending which ones u use
If not sure just save

[fossil hull]

What about illustrious's augments

She can heal the vanguard with it right?

[undone plover]

Lusty is expensive for what she does
Just use uni

[keen sable]

Unicorn can do it without an augment and is free

[viscid swift]

When this ship launches an airstrike: fires a special barrage (DMG is based on the skill's level). When this ship launches an airstrike: deploys protective barriers around all ships in your Vanguard. The barriers can absorb up to 5% (10%) of this ship's max HP and last for 8s. When a barrier is destroyed rather than expiring: the ship whose barrier was destroyed recovers 3% of her max HP.

ehhh

I mean it's nice but this is just about all she has

[noble osprey]

I have Hood, but shes not LB at all and at lvl 68 :/

[fossil hull]

Ohh I got uni I just want another healer coz my 2nd fleet dies after I ran out of ammo

[keen sable]

Why are you using second fleet for anything except killing boss

[undone plover]

It is fine to not use hood if u have better options
If not sure post your fleet so we judge help you

[fossil hull]

Ohh in normal stages I have no problem with my fleet it's just when there's an event I'll probably have trouble with ex and sp stages with only 1 fleet

[viscid swift]

well EX is no suprise

[undone plover]

Once u have dorm 3 slots and 2nd floor u use 1 fleet to farm
So wont be an issue
U only “need” second healer in ch15

[viscid swift]

SP shouldn't be an issue with one fleet if it's built up enough

[keen sable]

Boss fleets are used only for bossing

[sweet delta]

You can only use one fleet for EX

[fossil hull]

Well the last event I managed to clear sp on the last day but haven't been able to clear any ex and I really had trouble clearing T5 because I only have 1 fleet at the time so I was thinking I need a 2nd healer just in case

[keen sable]

You don't. You need a boss fleet.

[viscid swift]

2nd healer will not fix the inherent issues of your fleet

it needs more levels, better gear, skills enhanced, ships retrofitted, and maybe some ships replaced

what exactly did you even use

[fossil hull]

Well my ship levels at the time is quite skewed and I just got better ships after the event

[undone plover]

Struggling on your first event is expected
Try and push to chapter 9 > raise a decent second fleet > push to ch12
U will be more than ready for new event

[fossil hull]

The main fleet I used is Portland(retro) laffey (retro) Helena enty musashi and uni

[viscid swift]

don't know how that was struggling in SP5

[fossil hull]

The average lvl when I beat it is 103i haven't maxed musashi's skill that time

[viscid swift]

that makes even less sense

[undone plover]

Limit break enhance and push with that fleet
Give them good gear
Check /equip or ask here if unsure

[viscid swift]

you must have been running some absolutely awful gear for that to struggle

[fossil hull]

And musashi enty and Helena had low levels

[keen sable]

Levels matter

[fossil hull]

I haven't MLB musashi yet

[fossil hull]

Yea well I just started playing a week before the tlr event 😅

[keen sable]

Musashi good and will get better but not if she's L1

[undone plover]

Gear is important
And early on u have a lot of decent options that u might not know about
Did u check any gear guide?

[fossil hull]

I need 2 more bulins to MLB her

[viscid swift]

gear should have approximated this

[viscid swift]

even a 2 limit break Musashi would have been more than adequate

[fossil hull]

I don't have the recommend gears yet

[pseudo hearth]

You should be able to get practically all those purple gear.

[undone plover]

Craft up tech boxes to T3 (purple) and open them

[fossil hull]

I have half of those now

I don't have the type 91 yet

[viscid swift]

that's fine, not that important and you'll get one soon enough

[keen sable]

Gear is the real gatcha. It just takes time. In the meantime, ships and levels takes care of a lot

[uncut zinc]

hello all. sorry to ask but i just found about retrofit but does anyone know what it is?

[viscid swift]

this

[uncut zinc]

i get that but idk what it does?

[viscid swift]

it is something that some ships have that boost their stats and skills to improve their performance

[wanton dawn]

I was recommended with this team for w14 (shinano replaced independence). I recently got soyuz laffey2 and guam, how do they fit in? tyty

[uncut zinc]

ah ok. so shud i retrofit or not?

[viscid swift]

Soyuz would replace NJ and Guam goes to the mob fleet replacing Anchorage who in turn goes to the boss fleet replacing Jeanne

[viscid swift]

depends on the ship and how many retrofit materials you have

[wanton dawn]

ok tysm:)

may i also ask where do i get the main gun for jda, i dont think it is inresearch?

[viscid swift]

no it's from an event

[uncut zinc]

well i got absolutly none

[wanton dawn]

oh ic.... i think the gun for yudachi is also from event?

[viscid swift]

for you yes

[uncut zinc]

so still? shud i retrofit when i can or wait on a specific point?

[wanton dawn]

ah ok thanks

[viscid swift]

your priorties for retrofits are Unicorn > Portland > your starter

[undone plover]

Yuudachi gun is in gear lab
Wait let me check

[wanton dawn]

im also almost done with the gear, mainly missing the 2 wyverns.... i have been playing op si but still cant seem to get the rainbow prints?

[wanton dawn]

im in tw server

[viscid swift]

start doing hard mode asap which is where you'll get the majority of your retrofit mats done

[viscid swift]

it isn't

[undone plover]

Yeah it is tash gun right?

[viscid swift]

you get 3 from the shops each month and one from arbiter

[uncut zinc]

thx next. but i dont have unicorn rn so whcih one then and what if all 3 are done?

[keen sable]

Unicorn is kind of sad without retrofit

[wanton dawn]

i retrofitted her

[viscid swift]

you might wanna give that a read then
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[uncut zinc]

ive read on what i dont know but i dont see anyting about retrofitting

[keen sable]

Does tw have new port shop yet?

[viscid swift]

it tells you where and how to get Unicorn

[keen sable]

The amount hasn't changed but it's much easier to find with new shop

[leaden garden]

is this good for general use? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_460mm_(Type_94)

[uncut zinc]

true but what shud i spent one when i dont have unicorn?

[viscid swift]

no

[leaden garden]

oh not even in campaign?

[keen sable]

Get unicorn...

[viscid swift]

well I gave you three, all of which you should have
as for which to work on after, ask that again when you've finished all 3 because that will depend on a number of things

[keen sable]

If you really don't want to and want to use perseus then indy or cc

[viscid swift]

especially in campaign

[uncut zinc]

okay thx!

hope to rebuild and grow. can i add ya next?

[leaden garden]

oh.. i should unequip it then, thanks

[viscid swift]

I don't take DMs sorry

[uncut zinc]

nw. thx for all and bye have a nice day all!

[crisp raven]

literally go buy unicorn from the guild shop. shes extremely good once retrofitted and will carry your teams through campaign. thats what the new player tip guide is telling you. i would focus on one retrofit at a time. they can get expensive with gold, and we have a new event, assumed to be a UR, in a little more than a week.

[uncut zinc]

OH idk it was in guild shop!

[leaden garden]

is it gonna be a rerun? i kinda missed a few URs

[wanton dawn]

can i ask for Agir, does the the 6th star for lvl30 make a big difference compared to lvl29

[crisp raven]

nope, new event

[north marsh]

What is the scanning facility? i cant seem to ever find them

[keen sable]

The red towers. It's rng or maybe you set to ignore them

[fossil hull]

I think it's a random spawn so the map doesn't always have it

[leaden garden]

is Napoli good in campaign? compared to Kronshtadt

[north marsh]

auto usually catches them i just havent seen any at all in like 2 years of playing it on some of these missions

[novel solstice]

Sometimes, the RNG just hates you.

[keen sable]

Farm carrib d which isn't a farming spot

[north marsh]

Farming 6 times, its bleak very bleak.

[patent raft]

What is this? Where i can put this code after i gather up?

[viscid swift]

you don't put in a code

[patent raft]

So what does this do?

[viscid swift]

the "code" just spells out a message

[patent raft]

Right... Make sense...

[eager mulch]

/wiki Akashi quest

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[wanton dawn]

sry can i also ask if it isnt worth it to have three japan ships to trigger shinano's buff?

[jaunty vault]

depends on if the ships are good

[junior walrus]

This good on anyone here?

[sweet delta]

Any vanguard ship

[junior walrus]

Better than anything I already have equipped?

I’m using the GitHub page and don’t see it even at the bottom tier of gear for any of them, but most of gear is subpar just working with that I have so

[sweet delta]

1. It's obviously better than its purple version
2. Almost all gold AA guns are better than all purple AA guns
3. Twin 113 is one of the best AA guns

[junior walrus]

Who would you swap on in this case? Portland is retrofit. Laffey should be by end of the week with a little rng.

[sweet delta]

You can put it on Helena

[keen sable]

Kaza amagii haku unzen amount of worth

Azuma smkz poi kashino less worth

[daring light]

blue face DR or purple face PR?

[daring light]

research priority

[dawn ledge]

what do i need to do now?

[keen sable]

Blue focus season dr

[keen sable]

Go back to a then switch

Normal is unnecessary in general. New events and war archives

[dawn ledge]

wdym

[keen sable]

Tap prev then tap hard

[dawn ledge]

ohh thanks

[keen sable]

It was unnecessary to do a and b

You can jump straight to c and d.

[dawn ledge]

yea i didnt know, thanks to tell that

[tough wadi]

Does my Operation Siren Stats affect damage to Abyssal Sirens?

[opaque karma]

whats the mgm count on momo

[atomic abyss]

1

[atomic abyss]

yes

well up to a certain point

[tough wadi]

They can be debuffed -30% max? Due to my stats

[boreal wagon]

-30%/-30%/0%

[atomic abyss]

203/203/156 is the min you need to get the full debuffs on all bosses

[tough wadi]

Beyond that is pointless?

[atomic abyss]

yep

[opaque karma]

which fighter is better at light bossing f7f or bf109g

[austere hawk]

barely able to clear 15-3, lots of fails and resets, what can i improve ?

[eager mulch]

well what’s going wrong

[tough wadi]

Thanks

[austere hawk]

mussashi dying, and in general backline survivability but mostly mussashi

[atomic abyss]

HVAR Hellcats > LA-9 > BF-109G for light
the rest are irrelevant

[eager mulch]

but are subs or planes leaking?

[tough wadi]

What is....Support there

nani kore

[boreal wagon]

a fleet of carriers that passively intercept planes, its a chapter 15 thing

[austere hawk]

no subs pass to the backline but the planes yes, often they leak outside of airstrikes

[tough wadi]

To stop enemy plane waves like Chapter 13?

[boreal wagon]

more or less cuz chapter 15 has even more planes

[atomic abyss]

except w15 has even more planes yes

[tough wadi]

" has even more planes" what

[austere hawk]

yeah w15 is evil it's like a final test of everything you encountered so far

[boreal wagon]

it has a silly amount of planes

[austere hawk]

it's ww2 on screen basically

[tough wadi]

I'm glad i built strong AA ships then, not just for 13

[austere hawk]

nah AA only ships are not that helpful

[stark quiver]

Move Aquila to Musashi fleet

You don’t need to secondary healers for boss, and kear is kinda useless there

[austere hawk]

alright, since we talking about aquila, what should her loadout be?

[stark quiver]

Double flapjack wyvern

[austere hawk]

alright, should i keep kear in the boss fleet or replace her with someone else?

[stark quiver]

I’d go with another cv in boss

[austere hawk]

yeah def a cv, or i can't get max air power

thanks a lot

[spring bolt]

i would go with musa boss and bis2 mob, volga in mob and replace kear with something like independence
also move guam to mob and agir boss tank, removing harbin

[eager mulch]

me personally id do Bisz boss, musashi mob, Aquila mob, indep boss

[sweet delta]

/w15
I would go with this

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[spring bolt]

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/886377771263066137
one of CN's guide, tested and can do max threat full map clear

[tranquil rock]

500 planes rahh

[opaque karma]

light boss backline is this decent

[sweet delta]

Needs more rockets and converging TBs

In particular, Yorkii should be on rocket helldiver rocket

Or even better, rocket tenrai hvarcat

[bold salmon]

how many flapjacks should i build?

for w15

[soft raft]

at least enough for your mob and boss fleets

[stark quiver]

0-12

[soft raft]

Where's your slow/freeze utility?

[opaque karma]

nowhere, cant rockets just hit them without slow

i put the slows on my anti heavy cv fleet

[opaque karma]

is the white bomber bad

[stark quiver]

Yes

[sweet delta]

Rockets can mostly hit, but then your TBs suck

And if you have a slow then rockets can hit more and converging TBs can hit more

[soft raft]

on paper it's better than Helldiver against light
but the difference is so marginal that you may as well just save your money and keep using Helldiver

[opaque karma]

i see,
also should i swap out E or ticon for ark royal if i want slow (implacable in another fleet)

[soft raft]

Ticon

[eternal moth]

Hmm. Get a Champy gun/bf-109, or start on a Tenrai on a new account...

I guess I can wait until I have more protocores to decide

[stark quiver]

id personally get champy gun

you dont have a lot of good ap gun options as a newbie, compared to how u can use the helldiver in place of tenrai

[clear osprey]

which meta ships should i focus on i maxed out rigging on houshou hiryuu and yamashiro

[eternal moth]

Good point.

[stark quiver]

#gameplay-help message
these are some decent ones,

[eternal moth]

The only real use for META ships at the moment are for fleet tech, so none of them, or the ones you like

[stark quiver]

most meta ships are either, bad or decent but better options exist

[little tree]

~~ bearn meta is good mob cv smh~~

[sweet delta]

You don't want ark royal for anti light

And su2 isn't bad against light, it's better than helldiver except that it's not eagle union

Helldiver being eagle union allows you to put bf109g in both Yorkii slots if you don't have enough hvarcat or tenrai

[soft raft]

As for who has the useful tech worth going for
Tho tech grind is more of a late game thing so you can just safely bench your METAs for now

[shadow solstice]

Can anyone share their 15-3 fleet? I have hit a wall after 15-2. Can't seem to keep my healer alive with all the air spam

[eternal moth]

Who are you currently using?

[sweet delta]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[shadow solstice]

Dope lemme give that a read.

[stark quiver]

how much better are flapjacks in AA compared to tigercat

[sweet delta]

Yes

Even if you ignore plane speed, recall that tiger cats have 2s slower intercept reload time

[real laurel]

if I missed out on the Wattage Amplifier event item for Eldridge, am I fucked?

[soft raft]

you'll have to wait roughly a year beore her item reruns
but you can still get Eldridge herself in the meantime

[real laurel]

Yeah I got her just now, recently started doing exercises so it kinda sucks that I missed a major event for PvP

[soft raft]

huh wdym major event for PvP

cuz PvP is pretty whatever in this game

[real laurel]

I know, but she's extremely good with the retrofit so it just sucks

[left cedar]

when its about pride nothing is litle ... some ppl really wanna the "biggest" medal to show to ... noone ? or just for the pride "i got it"

[real laurel]

[eternal moth]

What zone is the experience gain of SP5 in Polaris equivalent to again?

[hollow gust]

It's PVP you can just reset till you win

[soft raft]

going off of base XP numbers on wiki, roughly the same as 6-1
(Small fleet 375, Medium Fleet 418, Large Fleet 462, Siren 533, Boss 580 compared to 6-1's Small Fleet 390, Medium Fleet 429, Large Fleet 468, Boss 573)

[eternal moth]

Good enough, thanks

[keen sable]

That's absolute xp. It should be equivalent to 11-1 in xp per oil

[eternal moth]

Even better.

I can't get close to required stats for chessboard, and I'm running into commander XP issues on my secondary server

[keen sable]

I guess you're proving the correct route is sp5 if not level boosting

Although imo you should try ild d1

DC reqs are too strict right?

[barren tapir]

11-1 = 21.69
sp5 = 19.73 (assuming 3 siren, i forgot exactly how many)

bit weaker but still good (shud be around 13-4 exp/oil? thereabout)

[eternal moth]

Does it have lower torp requirements?

[keen sable]

It has firepower

[vapid grotto]

Who did yall say to pick again? Im a few medals off ,was it sirius?

[barren tapir]

sirius or sandy i dunno what is more recommended to new player

[eternal moth]

Because DC's calls for 850 for C2, and the recommended beginner fleet is way below that. And if you don't have her I'd actually pick up Sandy there.

[vapid grotto]

Then who would she replace?

[barren tapir]

no one yet, for 2nd fleet probably

[eternal moth]

I'd personally take Sandy and start working on her retro

[barren tapir]

definitely not retro that soon. wait until ch12

[eternal moth]

Just stick her in the dorm until you need her

[barren tapir]

but yeah sandy would be a decent option just leave her to grow for a while

[vapid grotto]

So i should just leave this be ? Like fleet 1 is done

[eternal moth]

Personally I'd replace Arizona, she's not a great option there.

[keen sable]

No one. When is fleet 2 time

[barren tapir]

replace arizonaa when you can but otherwise keep that fleet to ch9+

[sweet delta]

According to a new player who got sandy retro in 3 weeks, she only needs like 12 gold retro bps for the modernization node

[eternal moth]

If you can get her, put in Saratoga instead. She drops on 4-1, or you get her for buying $1 in gems

[vapid grotto]

This is what i have but idk much about making a fleet

[barren tapir]

can get sara from 4-1 if you want otherwise idk tbh

[sweet delta]

Sara also is free if you buy something

[vapid grotto]

Also i dont retire anyone but the gray ships cuz idk who is good or bad yet

[keen sable]

Ask hamaal. Save oil or push. The risk is if you get level blocked it will cost you an arm and a leg and some organs.

[eternal moth]

Don't retire grey ships, use them to enhance your current fleet

[vapid grotto]

Oh alright

[sweet delta]

Use your duplicate Portland's and stuff to limit break the level 33 Portland

[barren tapir]

limitbreak your ships when you begin running into difficulty

[vapid grotto]

I stopped building ships also ,since i apparently got a bad ur ,im just wating till someone says its ok to pull

[sweet delta]

And use bulins on anyone in your fleet, like gold bulins on golden darkness

[eternal moth]

This is what I'm currently running, but I just ran into commander XP issues, so I'm having to stop and start grinding.

[stark quiver]

did u get lvl 70 pack?

[eternal moth]

Nah, this is going to be entirely F2P

[barren tapir]

no event to grind so the exp issue makes sense

[sweet delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1315922623611535370/Screenshot_2024-11-16_225401.png?ex=6759d4b2&is=67588332&hm=ab703aab99bcf80a4f1360143023c9ffcca5dca40722797c63b30d1ff6a578df&

[eternal moth]

I just got lucky and Sara dropped while clearing

[vapid grotto]

So i should grind sara then ? What did you say 4.4.?

[keen sable]

Lucky indeed. I've gone 2 or 3 weeks without a carrier

[stark quiver]

also when ur starting a new account and the game makes you pull gacha, is it rigged to drop long island

[vapid grotto]

Im on 3.2. rn ,should i grind something on 3 or just push to 4?

[keen sable]

If it's natural push to 4

[vapid grotto]

Natural?

[keen sable]

Li is a starter...

[barren tapir]

no you get long island free to start

i dont think any of the pulls are rigged

[soft raft]

she's a map drop on 4-1
tho naturally you should be pusing campaign as far as possible

[keen sable]

The true starter. No being picky

[barren tapir]

no she drops on 4-1

[stark quiver]

~~she also drops 15-1 ~~

[barren tapir]

idk if u shud grind her bc she can be hard to drop, but arizona bad

[vapid grotto]

I honestly just do that , i do a few level to 3 stars a day ,build once for mission and log out ,is that ok

[barren tapir]

i personally grinded for her bc she waifu but if she isnt for you it's probably not worth it

[sweet delta]

You can play however much you want to play

[keen sable]

You should play however much makes you happy but try to do hard mode first

[vapid grotto]

Only one for me is the ur i got but yall say i shouldnt use her

[barren tapir]

bc you cant limitbreak her

its not that shes bad its that you lack the resources to make her into the proper state

[keen sable]

If you're overflowing with oil, 0LB NJ is significantly better than arizona

[barren tapir]

and because said resources would be more optimally used on newer event URs

[barren tapir]

is she actually

[vapid grotto]

I doubt il get lucky again tho ,i only have 22 cubes

[barren tapir]

1lb i can see 0lb im not sure honestly

[barren tapir]

save for event

[vapid grotto]

I am ,since the ur i only build once a day

[barren tapir]

you get 168 cubes a month on minimum

[keen sable]

Her gun is just decoration. The barrage rules especially for 10s farming.

[sweet delta]

Maybe it's time to start playing more than this then

The more you play the more cubes you can get

[vapid grotto]

Yeah maybe

[barren tapir]

but are they clearing stuff in 10s

[keen sable]

No because not using nj

[barren tapir]

would they if using nj

[vapid grotto]

I mean darkness kills everything with the ability

[sweet delta]

Why aren't you limit breaking them?

[vapid grotto]

Idk ,wasnt sure if i should but now im going to

[sweet delta]

Yes

[soft raft]

What's the Arbiter this month again?

[humble solar]

Is Hakuryuu also good? Who should I prioritize, Haku or Agir?

[vapid grotto]

Ok i did everyone to stage 2 becouse i cant max becouse the lvl

[soft raft]

both are good

[vapid grotto]

Except arizona wich yall said is doodoo

[stark quiver]

do whatever u want first
youll need to get bps anyways

[humble solar]

I'm thinking of getting Agir first since I need tanks

[novel solstice]

Haku is awesome at dealing damage. Agir is awesome at being a tank. So whichever of those roles you don't have a great thing in yet, do that one.

[keen sable]

Do you need haku? It doesn't seem common anymore

[sweet delta]

I would wager that they are nowhere close to 513 haku blueprints

[humble solar]

My problem is the xp grind (I just all of it to speed up achorage)

[stark quiver]

come again?

[barren tapir]

you used data packs for exp?

[keen sable]

They used all their combat data packs on anchorage

[humble solar]

That data collection

[soft raft]

Jesus christ

[stark quiver]

[barren tapir]

don't do that exp is free and fast, and protocore is slow

[soft raft]

yeah XP is the easy part of PR/DR Grind, belive it or not
Esp after you start grinding oil cap maps

[barren tapir]

anyway neither haku nor agir gonna help you without bps

[humble solar]

Who are the DPS?

[stark quiver]

bps
blueprints

[barren tapir]

[humble solar]

Oh

[soft raft]

He's talking about the Blueprints needed to get their dev lvls up

[humble solar]

Btw is there anyone notable to get in PR 1-3? I'm planning to convert the data packs to protocore

[vapid grotto]

Also on who do i put my best gear ,rn the best is on laufeey

[cobalt rapids]

convert to protocore either way

[sweet delta]

They each use mostly different gear

[stark quiver]

convert, doesnt matter if theyre good or not

[sweet delta]

Each of them has mostly different best gear

[humble solar]

Even the PR-4?

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

FdG from PR2 and Cheshire from PR3
tho you gotta do at least 1 ship from each season for rookie missions

And you should convert all your CDC packs to protocore anyways regardless of series

[cobalt rapids]

all combat data packs ever

[viscid swift]

convert all of them to prototype cores

[stark quiver]

for the future, please dont use the data packs to speed up ship development, its a big waste of what couldve been protocore for you to get good gear

[keen sable]

Dd gun, autoloader on laffey. Cl gun on Helena. Bb gun on gd. Everyone else is cope unless you managed to get some great

[barren tapir]

purple hellcat on uni

[sweet delta]

I keep some

[humble solar]

I kept the PR-4 just incase

[keen sable]

I have nearly all

[barren tapir]

1 wisdom cube

[sweet delta]

Sounds like someone's been pulling for NJ

[barren tapir]

also why keep the cdc packs?

[humble solar]

Had 50, used all of it since I got jealous of my friend that got UvH and Shimakaze in 20 pulls

[soft raft]

Man it just keeps getting worse

[stark quiver]

Cuz they have all the gear already

[viscid swift]

well that was a bloody mistake

[barren tapir]

well now you can be jealous of your friend getting december UR ig

[sweet delta]

[forest palm]

I keep my CDP sitting around cause I don't really need the proto cores

[barren tapir]

ooo yeah

[stark quiver]

Jealous of your friend who was also making bad choices

[humble solar]

[barren tapir]

[stark quiver]

But do not fret for I have done the same

[viscid swift]

no one thinks when pulling on the perma pools for URs

[keen sable]

Dw just do 10 in 10 next week

[humble solar]

So uhh what should I buy with protocores

[viscid swift]

2-3 champagne guns and then the Tenrai

[humble solar]

I forgot which is the champagne gun

[barren tapir]

406mm triple mle 1938 thingy

[keen sable]

None of those

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)
this

[keen sable]

Is musashi your only ur?

[barren tapir]

is 2 champys enough or do you want 3

[soft raft]

3 max
2 is fine if you have Soyuz gun

[slender turtle]

I could get a tenrai rn made with protocores, should I prio that over waiting for a BB gun?

[humble solar]

I already have 2

[soft raft]

get a 3rd one
Also that gun Hood is using sucks ass, give her the purple Twin 410

[barren tapir]

i made 1 via gearlab idk if that was a mistake or not

[mellow cape]

Which one was champy gun again

[keen sable]

No guns for you

[soft raft]

#gameplay-help message

[cobalt rapids]

better off getting a flandre gun instead

[keen sable]

Where did the +6 mk6 go

[vapid grotto]

Oh yea i can buy these again, who do i get?

[keen sable]

Dupes if you need them for uncapping

[cobalt rapids]

grab the ones that give kms tech or uss tech
after you grabbed the other good stuff from guildshop if u have spare coins

[keen sable]

I wouldn't bother. L80 is a long way away

[vapid grotto]

Uncapping?

[proper jolt]

Uh so Champy gun over Tenrai

[cobalt rapids]

if u have less than 2 yes

[keen sable]

When your ship reaches the level limit because they weren't limit broken

[vapid grotto]

I have no idea what that means

[vapid grotto]

Arent the bulins for limit breaking? I used them

[ornate bronze]

I just got nagato meta, is she trash?

[soft raft]

yes that's the whole point with them

[keen sable]

Dupes first

[barren tapir]

without mlb yes

[soft raft]

She will be at 0LB
And she's gone in like 2 days so you're way too late to get any of her dupes

[barren tapir]

aka since you just got her you can't max her and she will be trash as a result

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur dock
tech if u have rainbows
otherswise shes good among golds
but also if u just got her then not usefull if u cannot mlb

[keen sable]

Unless you were storing all 5 nagatos, yes 0lb ships are bad

[vapid grotto]

Oh ,well now i know,ig il get dupes for unicorn and helena

[barren tapir]

at mlb she is a high end gold mobbing bb

[humble solar]

What is next after champagne gun?

[stark quiver]

Unless you have 25000 sync points she’s useless

[soft raft]

tenrai

[keen sable]

Lucky for you her pint size smolness doesn't take up dock space.

[cobalt rapids]

i wouldnt grab another champ gun if i were you

[humble solar]

Huh?

[ornate bronze]

So I can't limit break her after this event ends?

[humble solar]

I already got 3

[cobalt rapids]

too late ig
well just get tenrai then

[barren tapir]

is 2 or 3 recommended

[soft raft]

you'll have to wait until she gets added to Dossier before you can grind her points again

[keen sable]

Not unless you have all 5 aka 25000 points. You will need to wait for dossier

[ornate bronze]

Ok

[cobalt rapids]

1. they have musashi with izumo so 3rd wouldve been moot for a while anyway
2. 2 + 1 flandre gives better flexibility imo

[humble solar]

What is Fate Simulation for?

[barren tapir]

since i have 2 rn, and 15 pr3 thingies, wondering if i should buy 10 more next month or skip (or use on something else?)

[cobalt rapids]

skill upgrades and extra luck

[slender turtle]

Are any of the dossier ships good? Or is just mostly a tech/resource source lol

[humble solar]

Is it worth it to FS monarch?

[keen sable]

Make ship stronger

[shadow solstice]

At the risk of sounding like a fool, what's y'all's mob fleet for 15-3? I can keep my front line alive, but can't keep my backline alive with all the airplane spam

[barren tapir]

id only FS ship that you intend to use probably

[cobalt rapids]

fs ships u use
or fs ships from the season ure focusing to remove their face proj

[soft raft]

"Good but better options exist"
Realistically they're tech fodder

[soft raft]

/w15 give this a read, and post your dock in a thread if you want further help

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15
https://suchiguma.github.io/guides/chapter-15

[viscid swift]

well what are you running

[keen sable]

Musashi unicorn Aquila brest sandy aug L1 laffii

[barren tapir]

golds are probably good enough to use in most content if you like them. none are particularly special

think a couple have niche applications

[soft raft]

most recent niche I can think of was SoryuuM for QEM Fight

[barren tapir]

i may be tripping but i think ive seen kirov m in some high end speedrun stuff

and algerie meta is used for the most efficienct c1 fleet, but that's

[cobalt rapids]

1 more dossier til miintsu

[humble solar]

I can't get tenrai yet

[keen sable]

Convert your cdp. Oh wait

[humble solar]

What's cdc?

[keen sable]

convert pr1 catchup to monarch

[eager mulch]

Combat data collection

[barren tapir]

thoughts?

[slender turtle]

Hm what is the prio for rainbow gear prints? Like i know it will be based on the ships I have, but just not entirely sure whether I should be going after tenrais first orr

[eager mulch]

[humble solar]

I already converted my CDPs tho

[eager mulch]

[cobalt rapids]

ask again next month, mby december UR comes with a 20s ap bb gun

[slender turtle]

Meant more in the protcore space

[keen sable]

Just do tenrai

[barren tapir]

why next month o

[slender turtle]

Yeah is what I figured, ill be able to get my first tenrai tomorrow, lets gooo

Amagi will get the plane she deserves

[humble solar]

I should have just bought my first sextuple instead of my 3rd champagne gun (i don't have enough BBs)

[keen sable]

Neither

[cobalt rapids]

shouldve bought more tenrai prints instead

[barren tapir]

i think u supposed to not buy more pr3 and use gearlab for sexys if needed

[humble solar]

I can't see Combat Data Collection

[cobalt rapids]

u can skip on sextuple till 13hm and even then

[barren tapir]

roomba all the way

[cobalt rapids]

roomba indeed

[mellow cape]

Does retros contribute to collection rate??

[humble solar]

If it's Roomba I have many

Alongside hazemayer and its upgrade

[mellow cape]

Just going through my archives, is there any way to get past cruise pass meta ships?

[cobalt rapids]

meta shop

[eager mulch]

meta shop

[barren tapir]

meta shop

[slender turtle]

Do I straight just ignore using hakuryuu till shes dev 30? Feels so bad having amagi and shinano, but no haku with them

[cobalt rapids]

depending on ur cvs u can use her from d25

[barren tapir]

i mean you can level her and build affection but she will lack full strength til then

[eager mulch]

she will be very weak

[slender turtle]

Just better off with ark royal or something till then ig

[eager mulch]

avp exists

[barren tapir]

shouldnt wait til dev30 to level and max affection anyway imo cos then even at dev30 they won't be immediately usable.

[humble solar]

Power of love

[barren tapir]

but dont use nonmlb ships in hard content, naturally

[slender turtle]

Definitely havent been playing long enough to have her, only been playing really since indiana event

[cobalt rapids]

if u have eldr retro then use haku over ark

[soft raft]

Speaking of Eldridge retro
Is her slow really that reliable that you can ditch Implac/AvP? or is that mostly only for specific comps

[keen sable]

A semi usable haku but no avp?

[cobalt rapids]

specific
also avp and implac are not on the same lvl

[eager mulch]

i dont trust 60% slows but ive been spoiled since implac was my first stopper

[cobalt rapids]

eldr could replace avp but not implac in the same comp depending on fight

[slender turtle]

All the perma urs and recent events have been IJN

So I have a lot more IJN tech

[keen sable]

You mean you don't have the tech for avp?

[slender turtle]

Yessir, and like no bps

[keen sable]

No ship no coining is true

[slender turtle]

No eld for me unfort

[soft raft]

Hmmmm I see

[cobalt rapids]

truly unfortunate

[slender turtle]

She is from an event right? Or just gacha

[cobalt rapids]

she is in merit shop
the important part is her retrofit item that was limited tho
but it was during indiana event
thats why unfortunate

[soft raft]

luckily the retrofit item should rerun in roughly a year
instead of the usual ~2 for regular events (Since her retrofit item ran as a side event)

[slender turtle]

Ah tuff, I started at the tail end of it, didnt really understand anything till the amagi event, sadge

[hollow gust]

Just use Ark Royal , she is easy to sync and has high anti heavy single target damage

[slender turtle]

Yeah thats the thought I have, just need to get ark up to the same level as them, mostly just been using amagi/musashi/shinano on main fleet for META and boss stuff just cause those are the only ones I really have 120+

[cinder dragon]

I have Chkalov at Dev lvl 30 with a bunch of extra blueprints. Not too keen on using her, but will I regret not doing her Fate Sim?

[eager mulch]

what else are you gonna use her blueprints for

[cinder dragon]

Would rather use her blueprints for proto shop

[eager mulch]

go ahead if you want

[vapid grotto]

So i just cleared 3.4. ,should i juat retire her? Or?

[cobalt rapids]

keep her for eventuall avi tech
retire useless dupes or easy to farm ones first

[vapid grotto]

Oh ok

[soft raft]

just dont keep farming there (unless you're blocked by commander lvl or your ships keep dying)
cuz Akagi and Kaga are very outdated

[vapid grotto]

I thought i could retire since i heard they are bad

[vapid grotto]

Didnt farm, juat cleared for 100%

[noble osprey]

Guys any tips on who to research after FDG and Anchorage?

[cobalt rapids]

aegir

[soft raft]

FdG > All of PR4 besides Marco > At least Plymouth and Brest from PR5 > Everyone else

[noble osprey]

Already got her 😅

[cobalt rapids]

avp then

[noble osprey]

Avp it is then

[queen jackal]

do ppl usually end up getting fdg first naturally or is it recommended to go out of your way a little? i think i finished anchor fs5 before i even finished farming tech from dcb

[cobalt rapids]

u should go out of ur way to start fdg but starting ancho before her is perf fine

[noble osprey]

I started Agir jusy cuz i liked her lol

But now im stuck farming BP for her

[cobalt rapids]

coining soon ™️

[noble osprey]

Crossing fingers lol

[queen jackal]

if agir gets coin up i think itll line up badly where ill be on the tail end of finishing her

[cobalt rapids]

based on prev years it should happen somewhere in jan but till then its 🔮

[soft raft]

Tenrai in gear lab soon

[noble osprey]

Hopefully

[viscid swift]

yes, I "need" 5 tenrais

[novel solstice]

Some of us need ten because we hate swapping gear around.

[wary hawk]

Thats a want not a need

[eternal moth]

So it looks like the Yostar account registration is going to be a different system from the current Yostar e-mail system they have now?

[boreal wagon]

its essentially the same system just that u can have multiple of their games linked to a single bind now

it does however need migrating but the game will explain u all that when the time comes

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that's what it seemed like from the explanation. Thanks for the confirmation.

[grizzled sundial]

To me , FDG is the affordable IB battleship that have actual big barrage that hit the entire scene , the rest of IB BB / BC that is not tie to specific event gacha pool have not so great barrage ...

[cyan latch]

is there a game website for core data exchange recommendation

[soft raft]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[soft raft]

there's a shop priority guide for all shops (along with other helpful guides) here as well https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[forest palm]

[little tree]

[junior walrus]

With my current roster should I save up to buy independence from the core shop?

[viscid swift]

how many shells have you got

[junior walrus]

0 king ive been a bad boy

[viscid swift]

well get shells first then and even if you did have a few Independence wluldn't be doing much for you

[eternal moth]

I'm starting to wonder how important Indep really is now. With the retros to Uni and likely Sara being so much more important, Indep might drop in the ratings. She's still good, but I'd like to hear people's thoughts

[viscid swift]

my opinion has always been, she's very much more a nice to have than a necessity

it's always been a bit difficult working her into fleets and it's not like there's a lack of ships to do her role

[junior walrus]

Word and the shells are my BBs so that would be like Howe right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[storm heron]

indep is like very good right?

[viscid swift]

they are for your battleships

[eternal moth]

Yeah, you want a pair of black and white shells for 3 different BBs at a minimum

[viscid swift]

she's good but again, not exactly the easiest to fit into fleets at times

[junior walrus]

the github tier list recommends the 6crh and i think she's my best BB atm. Should i get that or the high priority one?

[eternal moth]

Just get a white instead, the difference between that and the pencil is extremely small, and pencil is far more niche

[viscid swift]

yeah here's a tip, ECTL does do stacks

[junior walrus]

Oh i see they are interchangable

[viscid swift]

anyway, should be looking into a 2nd fleet about now