gameplay-help

[gusty olive]

Interesting barrage. I like it.

added to my blonde waifu list

[upbeat cairn]

How much “meta demanding” is azur lane? Would I be able to clear all content with fully upgraded ships that are reasonably good or would I need to use almost all top units?

[barren tapir]

idk how to tell if it's arching or not doe

[daring osprey]

How to do help me miss lala last part

[upbeat cairn]

Just curious if I might be able to invest in some of my favorite ships early on or not

[inland shoal]

No, the non "priority target" are not arching
And priority target is misleading, they're not aimed

[ivory pawn]

Ask Miss Lala for help by tapping the title 5x.

[barren tapir]

im just saying what's in the barrage datamine

[daring osprey]

Wow i never knew

[inland shoal]

Wait nvm they are aimed? Hmm strange

[wind hazel]

you can clear most content reasonably with your favourite ships

[ocean fog]

its like to determine yami barrage type right

[barren tapir]

hood doesnt say arching or priority, for what it's worth

[noble tulip]

If we’re talking endgame content, then a meta fleet is definitely necessary however for most of the content you can run whatever

[hollow mountain]

Is sovetsky soyuz still available I cant get her🥲

[inland shoal]

If it has spread and/or splash it is arching, if not it isn't

[tame jungle]

Nope wait for rerun

[barren tapir]

no she will rerun at some point

[hollow mountain]

[barren tapir]

ah i see ok ye half of yami is splash half is not, all of hood is splash

[gusty olive]

Gotta wait years, good luck~

[barren tapir]

so her barrage is worse then but still WAY better stats behind it

[inland shoal]

Yeah ig barragePriority makes her aim weird

Non arching has advantages too, it can hit things that got closer to you

[upbeat cairn]

How comprehensive would the meta be? Is there a reasonable amount of units for each role? I’m not really into most of the UR ships I’ve seen so far

[stuck stirrup]

is T5 the highest level farming stage for this event?

[gusty olive]

Helena is a goddess. Just remember these words.

[ocean fog]

yeah

[inland shoal]

Endgame without URs is challenging

[ocean fog]

dats damage boost is craaaazy

[barren tapir]

endgame content in this context refers to hard arbiter, challenge mode, and w15 iirc those need more optimized setups

w13-14 need some thought but are more lenient than w15 (esp w13) especially if you have a lot of account bonuses (cats, tech, gear etc)

[noble tulip]

For endgame, UR BB’s are so ahead of SR’s that not running them would be akin to shooting yourself in the foot

[upbeat cairn]

I’m really enjoying the game so far, is there a tier list for specific contents? I kinda want to see what will be my future options

[barren tapir]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0 if ur interested in endgame

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/bb for general use (whatever that means idk lol)

[upbeat cairn]

Would sr’s with retrofit be included into the ur’s bucket?

[barren tapir]

the only UR retro bb is warspite who is low/mid end of gold bbs lol

[inland shoal]

There is only one retrofit UR BB and that is Warspite
Several gold BBs dunk on her

[ocean fog]

is warspite even still relevant in PVP?

[inland shoal]

No

[zinc cave]

Hardly

[tame jungle]

nope

[upbeat cairn]

Sorry, I was actually thinking about the units in general, not only bb

[prime glacier]

Sad :(

[ocean fog]

yep guessed. . .

[barren tapir]

i should add that, this channel almost exclusively focuses on auto play

our recommendations and advice is based on this

if you are willing to manual your ship selection for endgame content expands by a decent amount, so don't worry too much about it

[inland shoal]

Sandy is very relevant, Eldridge too
Yuudachi less so

[ocean fog]

some, yes

Sandy for example

[inland shoal]

There are no other retrofits to UR

[tame jungle]

eldridge

[wind hazel]

i think it's more important to point out that most endgame meta stuff are entirely optional

[barren tapir]

like youd be struggling to auto w15 with gold bbs but if you manual it should be quite doable

[wind hazel]

do not pressure yourself into that side of the game when you're not even halfway there yet

[noble tulip]

Also keep in mind that gearing is one of the most important part of the game

[barren tapir]

besides x-4 ship drop and one time gem reward there is no major purpose in playing w13-15 anyway tbh

[upbeat cairn]

I guess like most people i tend to overthink, so I guess knowing what awaits me is a very good way to get food for thought

[inland shoal]

Cog chips

[wind hazel]

i can tell you that what awaits you is waiting for UR rerun 💀

[upbeat cairn]

I’m saving some cubes to pull some nice units

[barren tapir]

you can get cog chips (tho less) in w12, so it's not necessary is what im saying i was talking about rewards exclusive to w13-15

[upbeat cairn]

I hope i don’t get shafted

[vast sparrow]

What's after Musashi?

[ocean fog]

I'm waiting for Sumner Laffey rerun. . .

[noble tulip]

Yorktown II

[barren tapir]

basically once you get those exclusive rewards you do not ever have to play w13-15 again if you dont want to

[cobalt rapids]

the exclusive reward is the better cog rate itself

[inland shoal]

I mean sure, but then that applies to any stage / game mode

[barren tapir]

it's a small minority of players who farm above ch12

[cobalt rapids]

im not saying you should

[barren tapir]

ur missing my point, which is that endgame content is largely optional

[tame jungle]

aurora bro you're too lost in the sauce

[upbeat cairn]

Thank you guys, just one last question, as a rule of thumb, would the “second tier” in those tier lists still be highly functional in all contents or only the top tier units?

[barren tapir]

and thus one shouldnt be too worried about it

[left cedar]

me farming at 14-4, cuz yes

[wind hazel]

dont be fooled by tierlist, a lot of second or third tier are ironically meta ships

[cobalt rapids]

second tier doesnt say much, it depends how much ur fleet and your account can carry

[ocean fog]

you are both sadist to ur ship and maso to urself

[noble tulip]

15-1 is best if you need cogs

[barren tapir]

tierlist is a guideline not a rule

[left cedar]

but no one dies, and i can chose pretty much alot of my waifus to be tanker ...
i already did with Yorck doing that role btw ...

[upbeat cairn]

Well that kinda sucks, I guess I will have to make some horrendous mistakes before grasping it

[barren tapir]

and yes sure cog chip farming yes but again, that is much more optional than something like gems for dock space or exclusive ship drop for collection%...hence my point...

[noble tulip]

If you need help just dm me

[ocean fog]

. . . sadist indeed

[inland shoal]

Dw, the biggest mistake you can make in this game is spending gems on things that aren't too useful

[upbeat cairn]

Will do

[tame jungle]

or scrapping hedgehog

[left cedar]

till now a vast number of waifus already did tanker role into my 14-4 farming

Yorck, Eugen, Golden, Hindy, Hein, Adal, Nachi ...
14-4 after safe and full tech its quite a joke ...

[ocean fog]

nah, im not regretting buying laffey l2d

[barren tapir]

sliding into dms smh

[upbeat cairn]

Yes, gems are only to get skins for my waifus, never spend resources into actual useful stuff that helps with progression

[inland shoal]

How did you have Golden Darkness tank?

[left cedar]

Golden Hind

[noble tulip]

You are free to do the same

[inland shoal]

I know

[cobalt rapids]

i recommend checking /gems in #bot-spam

[tame jungle]

rizz

[barren tapir]

if musashi can tank for backline ship why not others

I Love Taiyaki!

[left cedar]

~~luck of me i cant make other tank for my FdG ... ~~

[ocean fog]

then get Oklahoma tank

[upbeat cairn]

Damn dude, you are a life savior, I had absolutely no idea that bot spam was such a useful channel

[barren tapir]

lots of useful info in the bot commands yes

[upbeat cairn]

Thanks guys

[keen sable]

Exclusively run out of Grey parts you mean

[barren tapir]

w12 >>>

[cobalt rapids]

ure welcome

[left cedar]

i did a vast amount of test to get myself confortable with Gray plates ...

[barren tapir]

cog chip farming kinda cope tbh, the rate is so low

w13 was what like 2 cogs per run?

[keen sable]

Just pray you never get houssii and problem solved. Or keep "accidentally" scrapping her

[zinc cave]

Cope is cope

[barren tapir]

then again to be fair ill never judge anyone for their quirky farming habits considering how i live in c1

[cobalt rapids]

it adds up when ure spending thousands and thousands of oil

[barren tapir]

w13 i can understand tbh. w14/w15 tho can u even level ships

[noble tulip]

Did I somehow convert you to c1 or did you find it yourself

[ocean fog]

that was lower than I'd expect

[cobalt rapids]

can levely 2 vanguards and 1 backline very comfy

[barren tapir]

someone mentioned it at some point and i gave it a go and had fun

[inland shoal]

You can
Especially if you're (mostly) done with backline

[barren tapir]

oh nice

[icy mist]

Share the code

[left cedar]

pretty sure u can 1 gud VG

[cobalt rapids]

tap on help me miss lala 5 times

[tame jungle]

tap logo multiple times

[ocean fog]

wait, we can do that? i guess it myself for a damn minute

[left cedar]

Lvling main in W14 it should be ... a challenge, but if its a really gud main, should be doable

[cobalt rapids]

musashi unicorn eldridge can lvl any 3 fillers in 14/15

[noble tulip]

Surely you can just slap Musashi and not think about it

[ocean fog]

whatever, its done anyway

[noble tulip]

Level 100 fillers ?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[barren tapir]

todays puzzle was fun tbh i wish ppl would give it a go instead of begging miss lala for help

[noble tulip]

I gotta try that for 15-1

[cobalt rapids]

preferably they hit 110 for no random deaths

[barren tapir]

corpse dragging

[ocean fog]

that's true

[noble tulip]

I always ran 4 and 2 fillers

[ocean fog]

the minigame though, will it be permanent?

[tame jungle]

no

[ocean fog]

sad

[fallow sedge]

What's the main use of hele retro

[tame jungle]

radar

[left cedar]

i'm already lvled everything that i care, so idk the minimun for 14-4 lvling

[cobalt rapids]

eldridge is good at keeping vang alive and musashi backline and clear the stage
but sometimes eldr can goof and some1 gets deleted in 15

[barren tapir]

timing adjustment to align with bbs (?)

[gusty olive]

EN's gotta EN lol

And it's not even reading this time

[icy mist]

Now share the lines

[barren tapir]

the lines is significantly easier how do ppl have issue with THAT

[tame jungle]

shameplay-help

[barren tapir]

here doe

[ocean fog]

bruh the line is plain easy

[noble tulip]

Just triple tap the title on top left and it auto solves

[plain saffron]

i thought that's like obvious

[left cedar]

[barren tapir]

its ok if i help while shaming

[tame jungle]

oh is it?

[icy mist]

Ty 🫶

[gusty olive]

Wuss

[barren tapir]

no its not gonna hide from mod now

[inland shoal]

Me playing another game that has puzzles like that biweekly, but with way more parts and only 1 solution...no it's really not fun

[plain saffron]

you should make youtube video for these

[barren tapir]

its fun bc its not super hard, im pretty bad at puzzles but these felt nice to me

[boreal wagon]

said the purple name

[plain saffron]

i'm busy with other projects

[gusty olive]

Title: Puzzles EN can't solve (they keep asking in gph)

[plain saffron]

don't you know as soon as you get purple name you stop playing

[barren tapir]

better they ask here than in #al-general where there is no rule against shaming

[ocean fog]

go create a video about doing those stupid game ads right

it would be satisfying

[icy mist]

I play many JRPG im tired of puzzle solving thanks a lot

[inland shoal]

Yes we got it now stop pls

[barren tapir]

manjuu could use the pink vg as one of those stupid game ads and it'd work pretty well given how mid they are without their augments

[plain saffron]

is this pinkshaming

[barren tapir]

no i love pink

[plain saffron]

anyway what's the eval for new ships

[barren tapir]

i like them tier

[inland shoal]

Afaik golds all decent, Nana with pretty good dps, elites are elites

[plain saffron]

which are pink haired

[inland shoal]

All

[barren tapir]

the 3 princess sisters

[left cedar]

all deviluks ?

[cobalt rapids]

the vanguards

[plain saffron]

gimme a min

[barren tapir]

momos plants are really interesting tbh, i think they have infinite range

see their bullets constantly go off screen to hit far spawning enemy lol

[inland shoal]

They don't

But it's like 150 or sth iirc

[barren tapir]

ah well maybe not, but it's quite long

if i cant see it, it is effectively limitless

[plain saffron]

can new ship replaces my vgs

[barren tapir]

yeah theyd be way better

[plain saffron]

we need option to sort by hair color

[barren tapir]

love the pink fleet i am going to make one when i get perseus

[inland shoal]

@ Lars new idea for your ship database thing?

[barren tapir]

also

i actually think a fleet with ruppy sara percy lala nana momo would be a really decent opsi fleet like for stronghold and shit

well decent considering it's all golds only

[plain saffron]

i used ruppy, but BB in opsi mob is cringe

imagine wasting your precious time on BB time slow

[barren tapir]

momo and nana want barrage guns so ruppy and sara would help a lot with consistent dakka from the back

[inland shoal]

[tame jungle]

i run ruppy sara uni backline and it does fine enough

[barren tapir]

percy being bootleg unicorn would also be fine since ruppy and momo do some minor healing

[plain saffron]

percy is fine for eveything past few years

[cobalt rapids]

percy is better than unicorn in opsi mobbing if ur fleet is very fast

[ocean fog]

Anywhere efficient to farm gold?

[barren tapir]

w12+

[cobalt rapids]

and by very fast i mean fights end before unicorns 2nd launch

[ocean fog]

nvm

[plain saffron]

i just noticed lars not in ecgc server

[inland shoal]

Sadly this a an SR fleet tho
Also I'd say it's debatable cuz in the fast fights I don't think it really makes much of a difference and the slow fights hurt you more

[barren tapir]

i just found out there's an ecgc server

[cobalt rapids]

the poison swamp in strongholds hurts me
and percy recovers better

[gusty olive]

What I hate in OpSi are those that reduces your range. It forces your auto clear to disable smh

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[left cedar]

so not happening where matters, Stronghold

i will took my Klaudia and call it a day

[cobalt rapids]

well theres plenty of fights inbetween elites in strongholds
overall percy is better there aswell
the only place shes worse is on abysalls but my fleets clears those anyway

[forest palm]

here I just set it, and forget it

[wild lagoon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[cobalt rapids]

press the lala button 5 times

[tame jungle]

.

[plain saffron]

1st it's 3, then 4, now 5

[wild lagoon]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[plain saffron]

how many times is it

[keen sable]

Imagine hovering over the screen counting every second.

[tame jungle]

we should categorize it as "a bunch of"

[cobalt rapids]

i press it 5 times till it works

[plain saffron]

just read codes

it's 5

if uv0.cheatCount >= 5 then
            uv0.cheatCount = 0
            uv0.lockCheat = true

[barren tapir]

CHEATCOUNT

[cobalt rapids]

@ mods this person posted cheats

[barren tapir]

smh everyone cheating the puzzlegame

[cinder hornet]

is Lala worth? or should I just wait til getting better CAs?

[plain saffron]

i'm selling AL cheats (for minigame), $5 per stage dm me

[barren tapir]

lala is gud

best CA on ur screen

[cobalt rapids]

do you have bulins

[cinder hornet]

I believe so 🤣

[left cedar]

idk about that ... Haguro is EVA Tech ... hard be better than that

[barren tapir]

okay, but i meant for actual use lala good and only replaceable by research or UR imo

well and fancy ig if u need more pure tank

[cobalt rapids]

then u can swap her in but only if u reached oilcap like T5 or w9
otherwise stick to current fleet till then
would still keep portland till 120 ull need her when u branch 2nd fleet and for rookies anyway

[sharp socket]

should i summon my subs to bring them to 120 or just book them after getting 100aff

[cobalt rapids]

dorm/book is more oil efficient

[barren tapir]

yeah keep portland for 1st fleet when you begin 2nd fleet lala is gud for that

[left cedar]

iirc rookie need port 100, no ?

[sharp socket]

currently theyre like 116 avg

[forest palm]

get to 100 aff, and then book them is better for your sanity, and oil

[barren tapir]

yes

[cinder hornet]

ok, yeah I've been advised to not work on a second fleet yet so I will keep what I have but at least I can "pin" units for a second fleet once I get there, thanks 🙇‍♂️

[barren tapir]

also 8 nodes on portland retro tree

huh, why is this one different

[undone plover]

Auto-summon in opsi for 0 AP for very minor xp gains

[left cedar]

cuz we EN, we need to hard things

[barren tapir]

i do suppose research implies reading

[junior walrus]

What am I supposed to do with these map coordinate things?

[forest palm]

use them

[weary wyvern]

I'm not sure if this where I ask since it's about an event, but does anyone know how to complete day 7 of the puzzle?

[left cedar]

even the lowest ones have a better chance to gold plates and other things than normal maps ... so Hiddens > normal maps

[barren tapir]

hiddens are good to give coins to do more c1

[barren tapir]

[left cedar]

[zinc cave]

Ooh, single yellow in the bottom left, that's fresh

[inland shoal]

There seems to be quite some ways to solve it

[barren tapir]

theres some variation on how to solve it, ive seen a couple other solutions. tho i think the green one is always there

[inland shoal]

Nah, you can take the green to the top, shift the purple one to the left and put the orange 45° diagonal where the green was if I'm not mistaken

[whole crypt]

I insist if you're going to ask for the solution then just save the time moving the tiles and skip it

[barren tapir]

i see

[weary wyvern]

Thank you!

[barren tapir]

i agree, but also they might just be curious as to see how it's actually done

[opaque gate]

nay i ask what the rationale for anti air equipment is? like why does some need low firing rate gun while some need higher damage/low firing rate even if everything is averaged?

[whole crypt]

because not every ship has the same AA stat, AA gun slot efficiency and RLD

[jaunty viper]

Hello I often lack storage for ships, do you have any advice?

[wind hazel]

expand it by buying dockspace

retire useless ships

[opaque gate]

so for high AA, better high dmg anti air gun?

[weary gust]

The AA damage is the sum of each individual ship. The firing rate/range is what gets averaged. So better guns on better ships = better AA damage, and then you want to regulate fire rate/range to not be too slow or too small an area.

[jaunty viper]

ty

[opaque gate]

so for low AA ships, might be better to use low dmg low fire rate gun?

[weary gust]

The highest damage AA guns tend to be slow firing, so the negligible AA ships get the STAAG to increase their HIT/for the faster fire rate typically. Usually that is the mainfleet.

[undone plover]

Low alpha dmg
Good range and high fire rate (lower cd)

[opaque gate]

whatcis staag?

[undone plover]

In practice up to ch 12 and maybe 13 u can do full roomba on vanguard
And hazemeyer/staag on backline

[opaque gate]

ahh the twin40

[weary gust]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_40mm_Bofors_STAAG#Type_0-0

[opaque gate]

i se, it has decent dmg yet better than most fire rste

[weary gust]

More importantly it increases HIT.

[opaque gate]

thankss

[whole crypt]

maximizing AA is also not something you need to bother with until ch13 at earliest

[undone plover]

Does ch 14 need more AA than 12?

[inland shoal]

Not rly

[long pulsar]

Idgi what am I doing wrong here

[opaque gate]

for ch13, is sandy better for mob or boss fleet?

[wind hazel]

end here

[inland shoal]

You need to end where the arrow is pointing away from
Aka the very right

[undone plover]

Probably boss
Since unicorn is in mob
But she works in both

[long pulsar]

ok ty

[opaque gate]

ahh, thank u

[undone plover]

U can also run 3 carrier in mob which makes their AA even better

[opaque gate]

is twin90 better than twin 113 AA gun for sandy?

[undone plover]

Sandy wants roomba

The others can carry italian twin90

[opaque gate]

roomba is 113 right?

[undone plover]

Yes

[opaque gate]

thanks

[gilded carbon]

This one was not good, was it

[undone plover]

Not good
Change to purple helldiver

[gilded carbon]

Changed already. Can i make something worthwhile of them?

[undone plover]

Hmmmm not sure let me check
I doubt it tho

[gilded carbon]

I havent seen the further Bombers out of it either in the guides

[undone plover]

U can make it into skypirate torpedo bomber which is decent but not really worth

[inland shoal]

Actually what happened to your green piece?

[crude fable]

Is this good?

[undone plover]

Just use barracuda till u get wyvern/breguet/the pr5 TB

[gilded carbon]

So, i keep 2 and shred the rest

[inland shoal]

Pretty decent

[undone plover]

Sure
U could upgrade in gear lab to get the plates back
But hardly necessary those plates are whatever anyway

[crude fable]

Oh tysm

[gilded carbon]

In case their Line gets something good in the lab

[undone plover]

Yeah u can keep whatever gear u want
Just store them on ships u dont use so they dont take space in depot

[wind hazel]

it changes colour in the line phase, for some weird reason

i asked someone where's the green colour earlier and got told to shut up

[inland shoal]

Average AL code ig

[tame jungle]

it's just rgb electronics

[forest palm]

small indie devs please understand

[wind hazel]

-# fucking schiemettabozo

[sharp socket]

is skypirate better than helldiver?

[inland shoal]

Skypirate is a TB, Helldiver a DB no?

[forest palm]

both are just a waste of resources honestly

[sharp socket]

wait no its a TB

[wind hazel]

it's better than gold barracuda i assume?

a tiny bit

[forest palm]

ya, but just get a Breguet at that point

[opaque gate]

yukikaze good tank?

[zinc cave]

No

[cinder bloom]

Anyone know if Speedy Sprouty Botanist increases the size of enemy hitboxes?

[zinc cave]

afaik, no

[cinder bloom]

Probably a good thing for balancing, but also a little sadge

[soft raft]

only visually
tho tbh i doubt you could notice a miniscule 3% increase anyways on the average phone screen

[junior walrus]

How does the Nagato meta stuff work? I fight it enough and eventually unlock her?

[real jasper]

what is momo good at? Can she deal dmg or how can I make her good?

[soft raft]

and then you fight her more to get dupes to limit break her
which you get all dupes at 25k pts

[inland shoal]

I doubt a 3% hitbox increase would've been very noticeable tbh, so idk, guess it was just easier and less bugprone to only make it visual

[barren tapir]

very strong aoa-like barrage
2 plant summons with decent gunnery that also can tank/bodyblock shots and rammers
minor fleetwide offensive buffs and support, stacking over time with initial rng (1 ship gets buffed randomly every 10s, with fleetwide buff every 20s and additional boost to +2 ships each time) and minor healing as well

she would be a reasonable choice for a mob fleet vanguard ship up to ch14, and in opsi

[sweet delta]

Surely a 3% hitbox increase would take mk7 from 98% to 100% on a 5.5x10 nonmoving boss

[barren tapir]

w15 idk, her aa is very but that can be filled with other ships i guess. i just dunno if she'd contribute sufficiently to be of value

[kindred zephyr]

is my current fleets fine or do i need to change it?

[hollow gust]

I see nagato and three not mlb URs, looks bad already

[sweet delta]

I see an Aquila not in use

[barren tapir]

also tentative ranking for endgame content i suppose

gearwise if you don't have plygun imo single 150 is best for her

[sweet delta]

Did anyone here test Nana boss dmg against other similar dmg ships

[turbid dawn]

What is the best VG tech nowadays?

[barren tapir]

eva for ca, fp for all i guess?

[barren tapir]

mine's still only 105 then again so is my poikai but idk how to do good tests

[kindred zephyr]

any recommendations?

[barren tapir]

would suggest making a thread and also what content is this for

[turbid dawn]

Yeah looking at max stats compared to what I have I seem to be like 2/3rds of the way there for most stats? EVA can only get 4 and FP can get 56 max so yeah Ill see if I can finish that

[kindred zephyr]

Fleet recommendation

[whole crypt]

the easiest way to think about tech is level everything

[forest palm]

wouldn't level everything indiscriminately

[real jasper]

btw anyone know which stats to prioritize for Musashi? She do damage from a skill, so what affect that skill dmg?

[whole crypt]

why not

[keen sable]

Everything

[forest palm]

cog chips that's why

[whole crypt]

can still level everything, just takes longer

[quaint marlin]

does nana astar deviluke have a unique augment?

[whole crypt]

all the collab units do

[keen sable]

If you mean adjusting stats with auxes and augs there actually aren't many choices. Shorten cooldown with radars/tables, shells, or autoloader and sword.

[ocean fog]

what does luck do?

[whole crypt]

used in evasion/hit check critical hits, but the talent is basically useless

[ocean fog]

i see

any suggestions on how a good meofficer build should be?

[barren tapir]

what are some reasonably easy accessible HMS ship for tech points to unlock plymouth

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[keen sable]

Reload and rainbows

[whole crypt]

shiny trap is also true for cat talents

[left cedar]

not exactly RLD and Rainbowns, specially rainbow part

[elfin hollow]

anyone know where to get charles ausburne drops

[left cedar]

RLD works for SSs and CV
Rainbow except 1 and niched to other, all others are okaish to pure trash

[barren tapir]

sometimes event stages

[ocean fog]

like this one?

[elfin hollow]

oh oki ty

[left cedar]

not exactly, 1 really gud, 1 niched, other trash

[forest palm]

that faction talent is just bad

[whole crypt]

KMS staff is meh but alpha wolf is good, that's something you can use for subs until you find something better

[left cedar]

Wolf is ideal for SSs, Faction works for KMS and only, so locked into it, wut isnt ideal, and ACC its bad

for SSs should be
Alpha/FLame/TRP+RLD/TRP

[ocean fog]

cat gacha is just money grubber huh

[left cedar]

rerolling my antenna for 3y almost ...

[elfin hollow]

u dont really need to worry about cat rerolling till later on

[whole crypt]

acc is arguably better than HP
ideal is alpha/flame/SS chief/RLD/whatever

[forest palm]

very end game min/max

[ocean fog]

at least for now my ss is only kms wolfpack

[left cedar]

kinda build a cat and lock him into a faction its bad, cuz isnt easy to reroll them to near perfection, and if u do a "perfect" cat with a fac talent, it will be locked to it

[whole crypt]

even for wolfpack KMS staff is a bad talent

[left cedar]

wut isnt ideal, cuz build another one, can take 3y or more depending into ur luck ...

[whole crypt]

but alpha wolf is something you can work with until you find a better cat

just don't bother rerolling the talents on this one

[elfin hollow]

yea new UR is soon u wouldnt want to waste your coins

[barren tapir]

soon like 3 weeks ish away

[whole crypt]

honestly don't bother rerolling/overspamming cats until you're basically consistently in 6 digits

[left cedar]

till new UR and me in 14-4 i should farm enough to reroll my cats dailly till event day

[barren tapir]

but yeah cats are post endgame

[ocean fog]

Coin didn't drop past cap right?

or it is?

[barren tapir]

at least perfect ones. 'good enough' cats can be done earlier and are alot easier technically than true 10/10 kitties

[whole crypt]

you can collect as much as you want up to 600k, just not from the merchant

[mellow cape]

Is this one okay to invest in?

[forest palm]

that accuracy is pretty meh, but that's an ok base

[left cedar]

its time to me flex my deep sea myth creatures

[whole crypt]

I have yet to roll a steel with flame, none of mine even start with alpha base so I have nothing to reroll with

[mellow cape]

[forest palm]

you can fix cats as you level them tbh

[mellow cape]

One last cat question

[whole crypt]

you have basically 0 leeway for perfect cat

[left cedar]

its like this ur cats should look to ur SS fleet

[mellow cape]

Okay so is this also a good base cat

[left cedar]

see, my deep sea myth creatures

[whole crypt]

I have edel like that, just not steel

[cobalt rapids]

bad for rerolling

[mellow cape]

Damn noted

[cobalt rapids]

i would still reroll her if nothing better tho

get ace and turn her into a 20 rld cat

[whole crypt]

what to use for CV cats nowadays anyway besides bisha

[left cedar]

cruiser one, and eagle or other elite CV Focused

[cobalt rapids]

jiro/ark/eagle

[left cedar]

takemaru ? is the cruiser one ? if is, them he works for a cmd slot

wut, never see this ?

shame on u, 🌊

[storm heron]

1 day of not rerolling is 1 day delay of getting 40 rld

[forest palm]

I have a Takemaru with Heart, and Tireless on it

would be nice if Flame was there, but eh

[whole crypt]

well I want to prep 40CVRLD cats was just exploring my options

[elfin hollow]

is that possible

[whole crypt]

20 is max CV RLD on 1 cat with CV chief, RLD and ace

[elfin hollow]

ah

[left cedar]

my original plan its have a Takemaru focused into CV ... but he never came even to me start one ... also my Antenna keep hating me alot and refusing be perfect ...

[mellow cape]

When you reroll said cats, you're basically rerolling what they can get in their 3rd or 4th slot talents right?

Oh tf

[keen sable]

4 and 5

[mellow cape]

Oh 4 and 5, my heart skipped a beat thinking I blew coins doing it wrong lol

[keen sable]

You only roll 3 if edelweiss, elite, etc

[left cedar]

technically a SR can came with 2 talents

but 3 points on them ...

[keen sable]

Like the bish they showed which is bad

[storm heron]

SR came with 4 points right

[mellow cape]

Makes me sad that bish is bad

[cobalt rapids]

3-4

[left cedar]

just harder to be perfect

[storm heron]

never seen 3

[left cedar]

shit, chat goes down and i wrong answered

[inland shoal]

3 is if a talent with only 1 lvl eats 2 pts. Don't think it appears otherwise

[keen sable]

Dw, first talent will be flame and then you're screwed because of fear of reroll loss

[left cedar]

say that to my only antenna that start decently on all SR Cats i already oppened boxes

i never get a Antena with ideal start, since always ... i already lose account of how much rerolls on that antenna, and how many antennas i already scrap cuz always came with shit

[stark quiver]

Should I reroll and cope for ace,
Started with rookie officer and mech

[cobalt rapids]

theres no fear of reroll loss if u have a another 8pter cat on the bench

[stark quiver]

That’s the problem

[keen sable]

You should have rerolled long ago...

[cobalt rapids]

yes i would, but it rly depends on ur income and what other cats u got to reroll
if u have nothing better to reroll and ure >soft cap coin then go ahead

[left cedar]

i got 4 cats focused into CA, 4 cats for BBs, 4 cats for CVs and 2 for SSs
so theres no problem with rerolls on imperfect ones

we dont need go deep into details and say that my CVs benched and all 4 BB cats arent perfect

[stark quiver]

I reroll every day, but never get ace

[cobalt rapids]

welcome to gambling

[mellow cape]

Just asking, how many runs of 12-4 or whatever coin farm do you run per day without going below oil production?

I've been doing at least 2 but I always seem to run out of oil for everything else before weekly reset

[keen sable]

0 right now?

[left cedar]

if u are a active player, u can expect something near 5k oil day, so make accounts, cuz i'm lazy

[keen sable]

How does it matter?

[undone plover]

Talking about CV cats
In your experience guys is getting ace/flame start reasonable

[cobalt rapids]

🎲

[undone plover]

I see it happen a lot more frequently for BB/SS cats

[left cedar]

trust me, its reasonable

[whole crypt]

ideally you want to start with at least one of ace and flame but 🎲

you're far less likely to roll both on levelups

[cobalt rapids]

in my lifetime of purchasing 15 cat boxes /day i got 1 special talent bish start that was 3 pter

[left cedar]

me and my Antennas

[whole crypt]

if I had to give one up I'd give up on flame as well, since usually the RLD matters more if you're pushing optimization

[undone plover]

So it is not just me

[cobalt rapids]

my sample size is me which = 1
so ur experience may vary

[left cedar]

i never see acat that hate me more than Antennas, my "Ozen" one its about to drive me to madness

[cobalt rapids]

ozen

[stark quiver]

How do you even have that much boxes to open

[elfin hollow]

he buys them

[left cedar]

surface cats = Made in Abyss
SSs = myth creatures
CVs = Skyrim dragons

[stark quiver]

Did I just hear made in abyss

[whole crypt]

you have to just keep buying more but at the end of the day it's RNG

[keen sable]

I have 9 bish with initial flame/ace

[whole crypt]

it's why I have a couple thousand purple cat boxes

[keen sable]

Not counting one's scrapped

[stark quiver]

I’m dead broke on everything
Coins
Oil
Cat box

[undone plover]

True but there is rng and rng
Like SR rate is 2% and UR is 1.2%
Both of them are rng

[whole crypt]

don't bother with cats until you run out of shit to spend on

[left cedar]

if u are progressing or stat farming ... isnt a surprise u can barelly reset 1 cat /d

[mellow cape]

Worth or no?

[whole crypt]

forest is meh

[mellow cape]

Copy thatt

[whole crypt]

just follow https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/CatGuide

[left cedar]

only rainbow that matter is Flames

Mountain its niched into lategame

Destiny (its this one 10 stats and - lck?) its okaish in some situations

[whole crypt]

I'm just waiting to wrap up on collab so I can go back to leveling shit again and get coins

[mellow cape]

Do people ever use the Drake or kidd cat?

[left cedar]

i'm almost 55k points, maybe today at work i will finish and go back to my farming home 14-4 and keep rerolling my Ozen and new Bisha project with RLD instead ACC

[whole crypt]

the SR tempesta cats are good bases if you haven't gotten into the cat rerolling business and found something good

[elfin hollow]

real

[keen sable]

You're coping and not rerolling anyway. I would just take it or you won't even make 5 talents.

[mellow cape]

I am coping loll

I guess it takes time

[whole crypt]

it doesn't take time, it takes patience

[left cedar]

cats its all about coping.

but the thing is, its a minor buff that cost couple million to MAYBE u get a perfect one ...

[whole crypt]

it's less of how long it takes and more of not pulling your hair out when you keep getting bad cats and bad rerolls

[left cedar]

so if u are progressing, or tech farming, or working into gear
i trully recommend to NOT focus into perfect cats

[mellow cape]

Fair enough

I still have PR7 to complete and get my LA9s so I'll hold off on cats for now

And w14/15 to progress

[sweet delta]

Wtf there was a cat discussion and nobody invited me

[shadow apex]

Hey I feel like an idiot, but is somewhere here the solution for todays puzzle?

[sharp token]

is there a specific app for azur lane shop?

[mellow cape]

Huh

Like merch? Or the in game shop?

[cobalt rapids]

tap help me miss lala 5 times

[shadow apex]

... thx

[sharp token]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

im not joking..

[shadow apex]

i know I tried

[distant wing]

Halp

[shadow apex]

#gameplay-help message

[odd cedar]

when does campaign get hard after a month and a half of playing

[crimson glacier]

or move the green 1 up and 1 to the right and start there

[barren tapir]

?

at ch14

[cobalt rapids]

whenver u decide to move out of w12 or maybe not 🔮

[odd cedar]

🫡 i havent been rushing campaign so im kind of behind on it

barely on ch10 cause farming other stuff

[undone plover]

If u want a challenge do opsi

It is also good to get resources for end game gear

[crimson glacier]

but opsi is much easier than endgame campaign

[undone plover]

Later on sure
When u only have 2 fleets it is challenging

[crimson glacier]

still easier than w14 and 15

[odd cedar]

yeah i havent really been grinding opsi, just do it for the daily

[barren tapir]

abyssals are actually difficult for new players even tho vets curbstomp them

[crimson glacier]

and w14 isnt? listen to what you are saying lol

[sweet delta]

Doing opsi for the daily is inefficient, either go hard to get real resources or just skip it to save time

[sharp token]

is there a specific app for in game shops?

i cant do it inside the game cuz my device keep crashing

[barren tapir]

i already said

?

at ch14

[sweet delta]

I heard that 11-3 is very difficult

[barren tapir]

im just also mentioning what part of opsi is difficult early on

[crimson glacier]

i see so its just misunderstanding then

[copper ermine]

If I'm at the point where I made friedrich and now need to use coins can I start development on another ship and still work on friedrich?

[tame jungle]

as in you've obtained fdg and she's in your dock?

[copper ermine]

Yes

[tame jungle]

yeah feel free to start another. enhancing her with coins is a separate thing entirely and you can do both

[errant fog]

How good are the collab shipgirls..

[tame jungle]

gold = ok
purple = purple

[keen sable]

Simple rule: Always have a ship under development (until you develop all)

[barren tapir]

imo golds r great

[tame jungle]

what

[keen sable]

Yui faints

[barren tapir]

what

[storm heron]

so gifs are now permitted, or did I miss something

[keen sable]

Call a mod if you feel like it

[sweet delta]

Mods are asleep

[storm heron]

can I like delete gifs in my end? it's so annoying

[forest palm]

mods on a milk run

[sweet delta]

You can close discord on your end

[storm heron]

oh wait I think I can block

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[slim dawn]

I'm thinking of adding this to Laffey II for more undying, is that a good idea or nah

[amber frost]

does anyone know how to do this ? been at it for nearly 4 days now:

[atomic abyss]

it will make her frailer

[slim dawn]

This equipment on laffey II

Why? Cause less health?

[hollow gust]

tap the title twice

[atomic abyss]

no HP and laff2 has better alternatives for invulnerability

[summer cove]

would it be worth purchasing rings by one? or does the 2x1 offer come around often?

[slim dawn]

Like what? The washing machine equipment and what other equipment?

[hollow gust]

Wait for 2x

[slim dawn]

Wait till valentine's day

[summer cove]

does valentine's have 2x1?

[hollow gust]

We should get our next 2x1 soon honestly

[slim dawn]

It think yes, i remembered buying 2 rings

[atomic abyss]

this

[slim dawn]

Is the washing machine equipment another must equip on laffey II?

[atomic abyss]

no, same issue with that one you showed, no HP

[slim dawn]

Hmmm

[atomic abyss]

you give her HP boosting auxiliary

[hollow gust]

She doesn't use it , HP more valuable on her

[atomic abyss]

so either a toolbox or one of the gold auxes that give 550 base HP

[slim dawn]

Why hp matters over invulnerability for 1.5 secs

Ok ok

[sweet delta]

because hp lets her survive for 10 secs more

[slim dawn]

Oh i get it now

[keen sable]

Because you usually want to live longer than 1.5s

[slim dawn]

But do you guys think this is good in PVP where the enemies have burst torps?

I mean for other ships other than laffey II in PVP

[hollow gust]

No? She benefits more from HP then EVA it's simple as that

If you want invulnerability the manjuu is still best

Not to mention Laffey can't be oneshotted, torps just chunk her

[slim dawn]

I mean jn other ships

[barren tapir]

tankiest laffii shud be toolkit + chef thing

the regen and 2 lck is probably worth more than +50 hp id assume

[hollow gust]

That still depends on ship, CAs CLs use washing machine, DDs stack Hp

[storm heron]

wirbel luft and manjuu iykyk

[barren tapir]

well if the fight is at least 40s 2% hp is higher than 50 for laffii

manjuu gud too but if she reach 0 hp surely that's a problem already?

[barren tapir]

what about felix

[atomic abyss]

in any case this belongs more in #pvp

[slim dawn]

Eh

[hollow gust]

There are exceptions

[keen sable]

Ask pvp. Or don't and crush those clueless tryhards or die trying

[hollow gust]

So die trying

[atomic abyss]

Also as an unrelated note

I'd like to remind people here that you should not be snarky while answering questions

[slim dawn]

Ack

[storm heron]

durability has assumptions

[slim dawn]

It's the admin?

[atomic abyss]

including references to "player base skill issues"

[slim dawn]

Oh it is the admin i checked his bio 💀

[storm heron]

yeah right no ad hominem

[atomic abyss]

maybe, we have no way of knowing

[sweet delta]

Drake and Kidd are not back permanently yet, and Every should not be earlier than them

[barren tapir]

theyll most likely return in some fashion (such as next year tempesta), permanently is unknown

[keen sable]

The point was if you found some super secret advantagd to pvp informing them would negate your advantage

[wary timber]

is the chippy medal crafter thing important

[odd cedar]

should i be rushing tech points to unlock fdg and agir this early on? still barely on ch10

[sweet delta]

depends on what you mean by rushing, but farm the event first

[odd cedar]

rushing the tech points to start unlocking them

yeah im still doing event, but i also spammed the war archives thing for iron blood

[storm heron]

so the pvp doc might be a propaganda

[narrow ibex]

is bayard a good offtank for mobbing

[odd cedar]

i should be able to get to 700 tech points with 4 more mlb purple ships i believe

[keen sable]

Farming D4 isn't terrible but using terrible ib ships can be.

[odd cedar]

yeah im only using some to get to just lvl 70 for the mlb

approximately like 510-520/700 rn

[soft raft]

event trophy

[storm heron]

yes

[soft raft]

assuming she's at least D25 (tho ideally D30) sure

[uncut zinc]

hello. sorry but idk if anyone knows but what is the highest rarety caracter u can get from battle drops?

[soft raft]

SRs on select maps

but usually the highest rarity is Elite

[uncut zinc]

how can i know what the highest drop is on a specific map?

[wary timber]

i see

[storm heron]

wiki

[uncut zinc]

ok thx.

[storm heron]

for example "T5 angerous invention wiki"

/wiki dangerous invention

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dangerous_Inventions_Incoming!
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Dangerous_Inventions_Incoming_-_Port_Stories
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Dangerous_Inventions_Incoming!

Nov 27, 2024, 7:31 PM

[uncut zinc]

thx all for the help. going back to al-general chat. ( what is t5? )

[storm heron]

the map u want

[soft raft]

one of the event maps

[uncut zinc]

thx again. bye all now

[worldly socket]

yo someone drop the solution for last help me miss lala stage

[keen sable]

Yes wiki but on the formation screen it will look like this

[worldly socket]

my brain cant brain and i cant afford to lose precious time on stupid things like

[uncut zinc]

nice pfp u got

[worldly socket]

thanks but not the solution im looking for

[atomic abyss]

tap the "help me miss lala" logo 5x

[keen sable]

If you tap help do you have the option to refuse the help?

[uncut zinc]

i dont know what u need

[keen sable]

Sorry forgot attachment

[atomic abyss]

then perhaps dont say anything

[worldly socket]

ok wtf its that simple

[vale spindle]

Tap the title multiple times until it solves it for you

[vague raft]

BTW which gun should I put on Napoli the best one for her primary / secondary

[uncut zinc]

no worrys and thx

[vale spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNGz2sbgPDw also jimmy posted a video about it u could look at

[uncut zinc]

am i not allowed to compliment someone?

[strong tartan]

that's not what ender replied to tho

[atomic abyss]

you can compliment them in #al-general

[keen sable]

When's the last time a sr dropped from preboss on 15?

[uncut zinc]

will keep in mind. thx

[sweet delta]

like 10 months ago i saw

but i don't see much

[atomic abyss]

ideally these
but you're almost certainly not gonna put your rainbow guns on a tank unless you have way too many of them

[vague raft]

damn all good with Plymouth gun but I don't have any of the other

[strong tartan]

wouldn't the ca gun she came with work fine

[sweet delta]

it's fine for a gold

but i'd have to question if you have dev 30 napoli with zero rainbow CA guns

[atomic abyss]

well the thing is she's not gonna get much DPS mileage from a rainbow CA/L gun anyways

if you had only like 1, you'd prio the DPS

[vague raft]

not sure rn but I think I only have the left one

*right one sorry mb

[atomic abyss]

right one is a BB gun

[atomic abyss]

just refer to this and slap a gold one on her then

[vague raft]

oh ok nvm I actually have the left one, then gg imma gonna put it rn thx

[slate flint]

how do I fix this

[inland shoal]

Have you tried switching it off and on again

[slate flint]

yes

rapair assets aas well

[inland shoal]

Then I have no idea other than reinstalling or using a different emulator

[slate flint]

ima check on phone

[rigid granite]

Am i able somehow to earn combat data pack to speed up reaserch? I'm using the right fleet etc, but even tho it's taking ages to finish lol

[slate flint]

works properly

[eager mulch]

Who are you trying to grind? What fleet are you using? Where are you farming?

[inland shoal]

You shouldn't use combat data packs, they are much more worthwhile to analyse and use as protocore

[barren tapir]

be patient withh research ships. it's a waste to use data packs because exp is plentiful but protocore is not

[rigid granite]

I'm trying to finish monarch xd

[storm heron]

there has almost never been a case where bp collection is faster than cdc

also monarch 0-342 bp is useless

[eager mulch]

What fleet are you using? Where are you grinding?

[barren tapir]

if you want to get pr ship done quickly, just spam c1 opsi in the background while you do other things, it will go by relatively quickly for 0 oil at all

[inland shoal]

Well the faster you're done the faster you can start coining

But I'll assume you're just new and at low level stages and that's why it's taking you long

[barren tapir]

the nice benefit of this is it works even for relatively new player...although try to finish ch4 opsi first so you get the reset benefits and whatnot

[keen sable]

Newcomer research and cruise pass

[rigid granite]

Warspite, Duke of York, teseus, and I'm trying on 8-4

[storm heron]

also, worth noting that the tradeoff of using cdc for coinable ships is you are late by several weeks on the rainbow weapons, which might have more use case then whatever you are coining

[storm heron]

could have farmed exp faster in the event

[inland shoal]

8-4 is the last stage before w9 which is where oil cap starts to be a thing and helps your grind massively

[keen sable]

Where uni

[storm heron]

/guide

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Beginner's Guide to Azur Lane

If you're not sure where to start or how to optimize something, try checking these out!
🔹 General FAQ from the Azur Lane wiki
🔹 English Community Guide Compendium by samheart564

Contains a list of guides by various authors about key Azur Lane gameplay mechanics, including:

• Newbie Tips (By riceist)
• Common Resource Guide (By Sam)
• Research Guide (By Sam)
  and more!

Here are some other useful commands:
Use /tierlist and /equip for a ship and equipment tier lists
Use /tags for a full list of things I can help you with

[rigid granite]

I used to do that too, but I'm not sure if it's faster or not

[storm heron]

you should read this in order to smoothen up your progress

[barren tapir]

farm t5 its the most oil exp efficient stage in the game that isnt operation siren

[storm heron]

yes it is much much faster, it's an oilcap with the most oil to exp efficiency

[barren tapir]

and it's not even close, it's 20%+ superior to 11-1 which is the most efficient campaign stage

[rigid granite]

I'm not even there ;-;

[barren tapir]

bonus points for it being really easy and accessible to low level ships

[rigid granite]

I'm stuck at 9-3 xd

[sweet delta]

what happened to T5 being 11-1 level

[barren tapir]

t5 is like 15 levels below 9-3

[rigid granite]

;-;-;-;-;-;

[storm heron]

imagine having 20k oil, you can spend on event T5 level 70 enemies, or spend on world 8 which has idk and not oilcap

[barren tapir]

that was ppls guesstimate without mathing it. the exact math (3 elite 3 medium fleet boss vs 6 medium fleet boss) is ~+20% more exp/oil

[storm heron]

T5 is definitely not 11-1 level in terms of gold right?

[rigid granite]

Soo, t5 whatever that is, is easier then 9-3? 🤔

[atomic abyss]

t5 is the final event map

[rigid granite]

Oh gosh

[barren tapir]

t5 is below 9-1 in gold so yeah its very polarized to exp

you want gold you go 12-4 like normal ppl

[rigid granite]

How am I supposed to even get there lol

[keen sable]

T5?

[inland shoal]

From main menu just tap the button above Battle?

It'll take you to the event stages

[barren tapir]

so t5 is 19% more efficient than 11-1

[storm heron]

exp efficient!

[keen sable]

Doesn't really get you xp fast though. Just cheap. Morale cost insane?

[storm heron]

is it really not fast enough?

[barren tapir]

yes its specifically oil/exp efficient

if you have time issue go to w12
if you have oil issue go to c1
if you want a balance go t5

[storm heron]

the parameter for time is confusing tbh, we have oil limitations, runtime limitations, morale limitations

[barren tapir]

doesn change that t5 is best bang for your oil when it comes to exp and it's also very noob friendly and low level ship friendly

so always interjecting with "BUT MY TIME!" isnt very helpful imo

[storm heron]

hey it 's kinda helpful to counter low oiling arguments in coin optimization

[keen sable]

Whatever your pr goals should still be doing event. Even moreso for limited playing time.

[storm heron]

used by Celerio (2024)

[barren tapir]

yes the whole point is getting them to do t5

also monarch bad

[storm heron]

also I think you went to the wrong server

I thought people are exclusively answering here or ectl, I've seen an example on both now

[barren tapir]

what?

[slow fox]

I am neither

[stark quiver]

does anyone have any nakh soyuz amagicv example fleets?
for med

[stark quiver]

thx

what tech btw?

[atomic abyss]

0 BB

the most important thing is 0 BB rld

in this case im using 29 CV rld

[storm heron]

how can an aux gun have more damage than nakh

[atomic abyss]

[barren tapir]

229.7k auxgun is that...normal?

[boreal wagon]

its called assuming it shots every opportunity its gets

[barren tapir]

o

[boreal wagon]

which it never actually will bc there is not going to be a target

[barren tapir]

damn i didnt know bb gun so much lower dps than cl gun thoo

[atomic abyss]

i would ignore the calc

[storm heron]

so bismarck aux gun actually does around (2/3)80% of that assuming they keep shooting?

[boreal wagon]

dont take the numbers serious if u dont know what they mean and they probably arent properly configured in that screenshot anyway

[atomic abyss]

it's cos i didnt change the template

it was set to helmet

[sweet delta]

confused how you got that number for 11-1

using the equivalent multipliers for your T5, and assuming 100% medium in 11-1, it's 26.02 exp/oil

[storm heron]

[barren tapir]

?

((790 * 6) + 1051) / 267 = 21.69

[sweet delta]

that's for 11-1

[barren tapir]

yes

[sweet delta]

then the equivalent for T5 would be (638*3+507*3+696)/1.2=3442

[barren tapir]

am confus

638 507 696 is after i already divided by 1.2

[sweet delta]

you need to divide by another 1.2

[barren tapir]

but why

[sweet delta]

wiki lists the absolute basest values

[barren tapir]

as in?

[atomic abyss]

without s clear bonus

[sweet delta]

taken straight from game expedition

[barren tapir]

why do i need to divide twice i dont get it?

[keen sable]

S rank

[barren tapir]

Oh that value is without S? oh

oh ok then 11-1 better

[boreal wagon]

btw those arent dps numbers (apart from the aa)

[barren tapir]

dmg per 90s or something along those lines, isnt it?

[boreal wagon]

unless ender did actually turn the setting

[sweet delta]

in other news, did you know that AR repair crane doesn't heal if your whole fleet is above 99% HP?

[barren tapir]

total dmg dealt in a 90s fight but yes i should say dmg per fight

[boreal wagon]

its total damage over n seconds where n is the configured time ender chose

[inland shoal]

Neither does the new aux if your ship it is equipped on

[sweet delta]

it should

cybre dog acting like he knows everything

[barren tapir]

which aux

[sweet delta]

the cooker

[inland shoal]

[...] 'target': 'TargetSelf', 'targetMaxHPRatio': 0.99 [...] I doubt it

[barren tapir]

well does it need to heal if you're over 99% hp but ye sounds like an error then?

[sweet delta]

we'll see in battle

[elfin hollow]

How important is Operation Siren? I usually ignore it.

[inland shoal]

Idk they specifically put the code there
No idea why though, heal is capped to max HP anyway

Kinda awfully important

[barren tapir]

very important but it's fine to go at your own pace

[storm heron]

as important as getting good gear

[sweet delta]

my full HP Nana healed for 33 HP 20s into the battle

[elfin hollow]

chat do i need 4 fleets for opsi?

[atomic abyss]

no

[barren tapir]

if you're just casually playing then you dont necessarily have to bother, but it has all the best gears, +13 equip, and meta ships for collection%

[keen sable]

Eventually

[inland shoal]

At some point yes for a mission, but they don't all need to be good

[storm heron]

and some amount of cvrld

[elfin hollow]

ah

[barren tapir]

technically you only need 1 fleet more helps tho!!

[sweet delta]

targetMaxHPRatio only applies if the target is leasthpratio

[barren tapir]

(well real fleets...you need 1 backline 1 vg in each slot)

[sweet delta]

since cooker is target self, the 99% does not matter

[storm heron]

wait rly? I thoughtt need 2 with >=120 levels

[elfin hollow]

With Unicorn I never need more than 1 fleet

[atomic abyss]

yes you will need more than 1

because you wont be able to clear tougher bosses with the 50% dmg penalty

[left cedar]

i quite doubt u beat Harbiter with only Uni fleet

[atomic abyss]

oh wait opsi

[storm heron]

1. you can't harby with uni
2. you need more than unicorn for other content

[stark quiver]

you might be able to do harby with uni

[elfin hollow]

I never claimed to have gone that deep into it. I just asked if it was even important! But so far I've just used her.

[left cedar]

u literally claim u only need Uni...

[atomic abyss]

you didnt really ask a question tho

[keen sable]

I can't even beat a mini vault boss with my ganj uni fleet

[inland shoal]

Well that is cursed

[elfin hollow]

The question was there

[barren tapir]

ok fair i didnt consider harby. 2 fleets then

[elfin hollow]

I've only said so far, a fleet with unicorn has handled everything.

[inland shoal]

Idk how you can disagree that what check target does being dependent on the type of target is cursed, but ok

[keen sable]

Very. Like number 3 after event and hard mode

[storm heron]

you need 2 fleets with >480 levels total iirc

idk what the numbers are but they won't let you go without it

[barren tapir]

i forgot exactly but ye doesnt mean you have to USE them tho

[storm heron]

but they ask need

[barren tapir]

could be 6 level80 common shitters for all the game (and you) care about

well i assumed its to do content not meet a requirement bc like i mentioned technically all fleets have to be filled with at least 1 vg and backliner

[storm heron]

again, it is as important as getting good gears, which for most players, very important. Good gear can

• Push your ceiling to be able to beat higher content
• Push your floor to be able to farm w12 comfortably with lower level fleets
• QoL improve for 1 fleet OpSi clearing
• Low oiling

[atomic abyss]

unicorn is enough to clear like, most of the easier content

[barren tapir]

gem farming

[elfin hollow]

That that's all I was trying to say, I've ignored it so much I'm probably still on the easy content.

[keen sable]

One fleeting the game isn't very meta and so shouldn't even be a discussion on ops meta.

[atomic abyss]

anything actually difficult you'd need at least a boss fleet

[barren tapir]

i mean it is actually very meta to do 95% of opsi with a single powerful fleet...only stuff you typically wont is abyssals, maybe stronghold bosses if new player, and harby/narby

[storm heron]

since abyssals need tapping, and others are automatic nvm stronghold can be autoed

[barren tapir]

this trash one fleeted auto stronghold except the final boss so

nep only die on final fight lol

[storm heron]

that's wild

I know someone with soyuz uni saratoga portland shimakaze chang chun can't even half clear stronghold without someship dying

[elfin hollow]

I'll try to do it more. It just adds so much more daily time playing the game.

[left cedar]

Klaudia can do Stronghold, so Uni can do as well ...
Abyss C5 can be done by Klaudia as well, so pretty sure Uni do as well ... i dont doubt into C6 Uni with more powerful uni fleet than my waifu fleet

[barren tapir]

neptune is lowkey epic now she kept trucking along until the invader killed her like 5s before it died rip

[left cedar]

Harby is the real thing i doubt that Uni fleet can do it solo

[keen sable]

99% of ops is like true auto. It can run for hours on its own if that's what you need.

[elfin hollow]

thats good

[barren tapir]

to be fair portland is honestly shit LOL

theres a reason portland is offtank there, she cant get thru half a stronghold without puttering out

[storm heron]

I can't find any suchi videos showing that, so maybe they indeed can't

[stark quiver]

what hard mode stages drop what prints?

[elfin hollow]

i like to run 3 sorties and put my phone in pocket while i do laundry

[keen sable]

1 dd 2 cl 3 bb 4 cv

[barren tapir]

has suchi tried tho? he can do harby in 21 seconds, i feel like if anyone could make uni one fleet harby he can

[stark quiver]

why always sushi

[storm heron]

same but when I do laundry, studying, class, work, shower, eat, commute

[elfin hollow]

do u guys fw kimocheese

[barren tapir]

[atomic abyss]

more like kimoicheese

[left cedar]

cuz he is one of the most reliable and one guy that is around GPH and do this kinda of stuff ?

[sweet delta]

does uni solo mean 1:3 fleet?

[storm heron]

3:3 but with uni?

[sweet delta]

3:3:3?

[left cedar]

also, my sucessor into KMS fleet

[storm heron]

does sub count?

[sweet delta]

too easy, not even going to try

[barren tapir]

sub is allowed

[storm heron]

go post a video like Fanchen did

[barren tapir]

ok well that confirms uni can do harby lol

[left cedar]

on that i gona u

[barren tapir]

time to change it to a C

[storm heron]

guy thinks I can't one fleet harby with Unicorn and doubts me

[barren tapir]

also i am no longer considering fancy gud opsi tank, if you roll cv abyssal or stronghold boss she folds like paper due to such a high % of avi dmg

consistency -5, cant be true tank if you only work 80% of the time

[elfin hollow]

so in operation am I supposed to beeline to unlocking the last port so I can buy gear prints from it?

[storm heron]

good thing since fancy tank believers went from 1 to 0

[barren tapir]

finish ch4 of the story

[sweet delta]

beeline to finishing chapter 4 of the opsi campaign so that you unlock monthly reset

[storm heron]

beeline?

[stark quiver]

rush/speedrun

[atomic abyss]

rush

[storm heron]

good word

[barren tapir]

na tho some of it was lvl diff im sure but she folded alarmingly fast once those siren planes that stick around for a while came out, idk

[elfin hollow]

never heard beeline in my life

[barren tapir]

and fancy survives narby just fine for me despite said lvl diff so. clearly it was avi dmg surely

[spring bolt]

from xuanxu, aka rks, he tried harby last month. with sub

[elfin hollow]

i see hindenburg

good fleet

[sweet delta]

average mob fleet

[storm heron]

1 FLEET REAL

[elfin hollow]

amagi cv carries

[barren tapir]

alright so you only need 1 fleet

[undone plover]

depends on the month
not all arbiters are made equal

[elfin hollow]

cope

[barren tapir]

isnt this month like the hardest one tho

[undone plover]

but all ARE one shottable depending on your criteria

[barren tapir]

wait im dumb, they did it last month

[undone plover]

well dfg said last month

[barren tapir]

someone should try uni this month

[spring bolt]

well, you still need full crossfleet and sub so not really one fleeting, but anyway the point is amagi with meta gears and no need to change, so QoL doesn't drop

[storm heron]

so 1 fleet is the norm now

[elfin hollow]

for based players yea

[barren tapir]

is it one fleet with full crossfleet and sub

[stark quiver]

the real one fleet is just one fleet
no sub no xfleet

[hollow gust]

Medium shield is usually the hardest but harby are usually easy asf . Eagle and Sakura dominate harbys

[spring bolt]

we are not there yet. can't really one fleet kill all harby
also current one fleet setups are not as fast
rainbow preload carrier when

[barren tapir]

alsace cv conversion surely

[cobalt rapids]

but u had to manual it this month

[barren tapir]

easy

[hollow gust]

"Medium shield is hardest but harby are usually easy asf " plus if I wanted to , pulling a Helena auto is easy , i wanted to test something

[sweet delta]

[hollow gust]

I was to stubborn on hvar and nahkimov

I pulled a enty Yorky implacable last year for oneshot , too boring

[sweet delta]

what's this then

[hollow gust]

Huh

Wait lemme look at my thing , now I'm confused too

[stark quiver]

is bb fleet one shot for this month harby possible

[hollow gust]

Okay looks like I tried kearsarge , ragequitted , used Helena manual , then went for enty RNG

[hybrid garden]

Question cos I'm annoying
Do all shipyard ships have fate simulation cos I've had Plymouth for a while and after lvl 30 there's no option like others

[atomic abyss]

no

all PR7, agir, plymouth, brest, hindenburg and kearsage do not have fate sim

[stark quiver]

what gear and ships

[hybrid garden]

So it's cool if I just scrap the excess blueprints?

[atomic abyss]

no, they'll get theirs eventually

[soft raft]

if you want to sure,
but most people opt to keep extras

[hybrid garden]

How many should I keep then

[spring bolt]

165 for pr, 215 for dr

[boreal wagon]

if u keep the checkbox ticked the game wont let you scrap beyond what is needed for fate sim

[hybrid garden]

Mainly just so I know what to aim for... Tyty

[warm condor]

Is yuudachi worth retrofiting?

[atomic abyss]

she's a good ship, the issue is you need to use spec core for her retro item

better to get one of the DDG retros though

[barren tapir]

tbh ddg retros need to spend core data which is also not really ideal. my take is pick your poison and who you personally like more~

ddgs without missile are kinda ask me how i know

[agile furnace]

Anyone know how to do this?

[cobalt rapids]

i would skip over yuudachi completely and only pick up ddg if u can spare the spec core and coredata cost
sandy takes prio for spec core over ddg tho so they prob end up on the backburner for a good while

[sweet delta]

How do u no

[cobalt rapids]

press help lala miss 5 times

[agile furnace]

Oh I didn’t know that was a feature

[prime glacier]

should i get this?

[barren tapir]

ive used chang chun without missile and then benched her until i get a missile

[dry tree]

hello, any tips for 14-4? I seemed to be having trouble killing enemy subs for my vanguard fleet. Any ways to improve it?

[cobalt rapids]

open a thread and post ur dock

[sweet delta]

Use Eldridge

[vale spindle]

+13 hedgehog

[dry tree]

ah.. I don't have her and her retrofit item

[dry tree]

alright

14-4 fleet building

[tall bane]

who is better to max limit break first Shinano or new jersey?

[cobalt rapids]

shinana

[dry tree]

I also don't have laffey II

[storm heron]

snn

[sweet delta]

Who are all of your URs?

[tall bane]

aight

[sweet delta]

Limit break with bulins? Depends, maybe not even worth
Limit break with dupes? Likely Shinano

[tall bane]

with the bulins

no dupes yet

[odd dagger]

How do I get my account back

[sweet delta]

Log in

[odd dagger]

I did

[sweet delta]

Choose the correct server

[odd dagger]

I didn’t work

[tame jungle]

If you’re logged in, open server menu and tap “results found”

[elfin hollow]

Is there still a way to repair subs in opsi with those kits?

[odd dagger]

Ok

Didn’t work now my stuff is gone

[tame jungle]

Then i don’t know gg