gameplay-help

[forest palm]

nope

[marsh bison]

i am having too much sakuras

[spring bolt]

green face icon when below 40, yellow face icon when below 30, no notifaiction until 0 and red face icon

[marsh bison]

how about shinano and musashi

[forest palm]

I do way too much tech grinding to not know morale system

[marsh bison]

whats morale system?

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Affinity#Morale

[marsh bison]

oh

so thats why they say bad things to me

[spring bolt]

how is the progress?

[marsh bison]

and upset affinity

[soft dagger]

you can go lower

[marsh bison]

so one question:i havent marry any shipgirls but can i lower their affinity back to 0

[mint flint]

you can but why would you

[marsh bison]

i dont see any reason to keep their love

[mint flint]

stats

[marsh bison]

uhh will the married stats still keep

or i have to remarry

[forest palm]

practically done with the essentially tech for vanguard, and main fleet, so I have to figure if I want to do non-essential, or tech-less ships

[primal silo]

But then it'll be per zone, how can I auto?
Or I pay the AP to recon all, then strategic search?

[mint flint]

you wont lose oathed status

rings dont come so easy

[frank pulsar]

if there was a more convenient way the game wouldnt sell the oil logger

[mint flint]

pretty sure you'll just keep the base oathed stat bonus, but you'll miss out on the 200 affinity stat bonus

[marsh bison]

yay

so i dont have to waste rings to remarry

[primal silo]

Fair
I used to think it was fine, but 5k oil is quite a lot

[heady siren]

Got enough medals to get Zuikaku. So she's better off being my secretary in my home screen.

[frank pulsar]

if youre a mad grinder like the helpers here then yea its a lot
otherwise its honestly not a lot

[heady siren]

I want to ask is there anyone from sakura empire that is actually good for fleet building?

[keen pewter]

zui is a mid ship

[summer basin]

the one you like

[heady siren]

So far the ships I've mentioned don't do much to the fleet.

[summer basin]

oh fuck this is gph. my bad

[strong tartan]

varia seen giving bad advice

[forest palm]

there's a bunch of good Japanese ships, but you're not making a good pure faction fleet

[frank pulsar]

theres plenty, just that most of them arent accessible

[plain saffron]

ban

[summer basin]

I was tapped into the wrong chat ignore me. Smh

[frank pulsar]

and this too

[heady siren]

What are you talking about??

[forest palm]

a moderator leaving this channel like a father going out for milk the cycle continues

[keen pewter]

shes not a good ship

[frank pulsar]

meta wise, yea shes mid
design wise, thast entirely up to the person

[summer basin]

Not like you need moderation atm... Right? Right?

[viscid swift]

objectively speaking Enterprise is the far better choice

[forest palm]

I'd hope not

[wind hazel]

mod me i'll moderate gph

[frank pulsar]

if we dont have a mod here war will break out

[keen pewter]

yeah enty for boss

[heady siren]

I personally like her but honestly I better put her as my secretary rather than putting her in a fleet.

Cause the upcoming campaign stages are becoming more harder to clear.

[keen pewter]

so erm what is ur fleet

[soft raft]

Then why didnt you get Enterprise to make your campaign experience smoother?

[heady siren]

Repulse, Penslyvania, Unicorn at the back

Portland, Javelin and Helena at the front.

[keen pewter]

what campaign stage are you on

[heady siren]

Currently 4-2

[tame jungle]

i'd replace repulse with enty

[keen pewter]

need a better flag

[keen pewter]

and this

vanguard will work for now

[tame jungle]

penny is ok early on, not sure what their options are

[mint flint]

penny works fine as a poverty until they have someone better

[keen pewter]

lots of poverty options

howe or nelson retro for eg

[mint flint]

howe's from heavy pool so theres no reason why they would have her, nelson retro is somewhat costly

[mellow cape]

Eldridge comes back in 2 years right? :<

[grizzled sundial]

The retro item ?

[mellow cape]

Yeahhh

[tame jungle]

Eldridge is perma
Retro item probably earlier

[mellow cape]

I missed out on it and I was reading her retro fit on wiki and gosh she gives the vanguard hella durability

[soft raft]

"Poverty Options"

Lists Howe

[agile lodge]

any advices to farm point in the event to get momo ?

[keen pewter]

i just vaguely remember gettign her in the first week of playing

[whole crypt]

honestly not concerned about SP cost compared to repeat stages

[mint flint]

just keep doing t5, and do 1:1 sp if you can

[undone plover]

Did T4 have oil cap?

[keen pewter]

also they should definitely have nelson

[mint flint]

definitely is a very strong word

they might, but they might not

[keen pewter]

you get it for free from questline. they are at 4-2, you get it auto from 4-1

[whole crypt]

not this time at least, there were times where last 2 SP stages had cap but not sure if those had SP6

[agile lodge]

cant get pass t3 and cant auto it

[keen pewter]

the beginner rewards questline

[mint flint]

you probably pulled on heavy banner, which isnt recommended

[ivory pawn]

Questline needs more done than just 4-1 clear. But eventually they should have her if they haven’t yet.

[mint flint]

i forgot that existed actually

[undone plover]

She also drops from some maps

[mint flint]

still, while they could replace penny with nelson, i doubt they have the resources to get her retro'd

[keen pewter]

dont you get nelson from 4-1 normal clear

[mint flint]

w2 iirc, but thats rng

[keen pewter]

?

[viscid swift]

you need to more than just clearing 4-1, there's a bunch of other missions you need to get through first

[ivory pawn]

After completing all of the second phase missions, the final mission will unlock which is just clear 4-1.

[keen pewter]

i mean the stuff before isnt very difficult though

[viscid swift]

no but it is time consuming for a new player

[whole crypt]

Nelson isn't significantly better without retrofit anyway, and you also want pennant to maximize her barrage

[viscid swift]

you're still looking at a week or 2 just to get her, to speak nothing of actually retrofitting her

[whole crypt]

retrofit priority is going to be Unicorn too

[heady siren]

How about Prinz Eugen? I'm going to receive her as a login reward for day 8.

[viscid swift]

bait

[mint flint]

good tank but does absolutely no damage, she's bad

[keen pewter]

🚮

[heady siren]

...............

[keen pewter]

do get it tho for collection

[spring bolt]

day 6 and can't get nelson from new player quest retired one tho

[heady siren]

And then, Is Belfast also good for fleetbuilding?

[ivory pawn]

Nelson’s still a solid upgrade over Penn once retrofitted, decent chance you haven’t gotten anything better by that point unless BBs available in medal shop or a good banner.

[viscid swift]

she's mediocre

[polar venture]

What to grind in the event?

[mint flint]

they wont have the resources to retro her, and even if they did those resources are better placed elsewhere

[kind olive]

is there a way to rotate this piece?

[crimson glacier]

no

[viscid swift]

no

[kind olive]

then how can we clear this stage?

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

that last piece should go on the top left

[whole crypt]

would you have seen these by any chance
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations
avoid high rarity ships for the sake of shiny

[viscid swift]

straight piece should go at the bottom

[kind olive]

ah. thanks bro. my brain is smaller than urs

[whole crypt]

wait till you see the second puzzle

[viscid swift]

it's not that hard....

[mint flint]

its not too hard to figure out with some fiddling

[forest palm]

these are grade school level puzzles, imma be real

[keen pewter]

bro is cooked 💀

[whole crypt]

well just need to come to terms with there not being rotation

[kind olive]

if you're smart. yea

[heady siren]

I will give it a read then.

[polar venture]

What to grind in the event?

[mint flint]

i mean the puzzle doesnt have much to do with intelligence

[viscid swift]

T5

[mint flint]

t5, or the highest you can, also do 1:1 sp daily if you can otherwise you dont really need to bother

[whole crypt]

you can't spin the pieces, just try different positions until they all fit

[kind olive]

game forced my brain gears to move

[mint flint]

that part is incredibly easy

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with doing SP with full fleets, it's still better point/oil than T5

you sound like you should skip SP if you can't 1:1

[sharp coyote]

Can I get a suggestion for a main fleet for progressing the campaign? I’ve been playing for about a week and don’t understand who I should be focusing on.

[mint flint]

bad phrasing

[viscid swift]

Musashi, Unicorn, Hyuuga/Lexington, San Franssico, Helena, Z23 until W9 at least

[forest palm]

could probably push to 12 with that kind of fleet

[kind olive]

thanks to Terror. my brain evolved a bit. thus, second stage becomes easier

[whole crypt]

trying to get my brain work for day 3 now

[keen pewter]

i just finished finals this year and my brain completely shut down (i can barely do anything)

[mint flint]

finishing is liberating, now you can waste your time on stupid stuff

[keen pewter]

(such as this game ahhaha)

[heady siren]

Yea, my bad for the medal choice.

Since that already happened, are there any ships that can substitute Enterprise?

[whole crypt]

Saratoga?

[kind needle]

Siren Research Nodes are time consuming or nah?

[heady siren]

I would just go for Sirius when I earn another 80 medals.

[kind needle]

Anyways, should I ignore akashis?

[whole crypt]

you should buy all the tokens and AP

are research nodes the puzzle shit, if it is just do them and be done with it, they're one time and get in the way of strategic search

[kind needle]

Any issues with my opsi fleet or seems fine?

[lunar arrow]

Where is Nana augment?

[vague raft]

I thought for a second you meant Lala one, tbh I also don't know it

[storm marlin]

Am I stupid, or I don't know how to solve this puzzle?

[viscid swift]

you can go diagonal

[vague raft]

cubes can go diagonal

[lunar arrow]

Oh, it's in Tick tick kaboom and time gated

[vague raft]

if I'm not wrong here green can go with green

[storm marlin]

Fuck yeah. Thanks.

[viscid swift]

may as well make a guide at this point

[barren tapir]

all ppl need to know which may not be obvious on first glance is, you are trying to connect green arrow to red arrow, hit all boxes once, and you can go diagonal

[midnight holly]

Is there no valid way to get a missing SSR? Like a pitty anywhere?

[barren tapir]

from there shud be easy just trial and error a few times

[soft raft]

there is no pity for SRs outside of the 60 run in WA maps for the SR that was the shop ship

[barren tapir]

sadly no ye. u can go 10000 pulls without one of the golds if excessively unlucky (exaggeration but it's possible)

[viscid swift]

no but I imagine we're gonna get a number of these types of questions and I'd rather not explain how to connect it than just throw in an image

[whole crypt]

only rainbow units have pity, unfortunately

[fervent niche]

fleet help

[stark quiver]

yo cheeky, for your meta ship xp trick, is it supposed to go on until you hit max?

[midnight holly]

Dang, thanks guys

[robust ember]

The issue I think is the end is supposed to be the red arrow, I tried solutions that had the red arrow in the path but not the final destination and never worked

[viscid swift]

that or until you kill al enemies that have spawned which has happened

[stark quiver]

i guess im leaning towards the latter, my thing just stopped after some time lol

[midnight holly]

How do you get commissions that has "possiblity to drop cube"?

[soft raft]

you need to run the line through every square
not just getting to the end

[whole crypt]

you just keep doing more commissions and hope it appears

[midnight holly]

Like the limited ones that come out after playing stages too?

[whole crypt]

you need it to run through every square from start arrow to end arrow

[midnight holly]

The ones that have 1h time limit before it's gone?

[whole crypt]

those just spawn at random when you do stages

[robust ember]

That’s assumed to be more common knowledge, Im saying the “red arrow cube is the last one you should touch” is maybe not as well thought of, is the idea

[midnight holly]

Any stage? Event and Story right?

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Commissions

[barren tapir]

yes. also they can spawn on entry, after battle, and end of stage

they also spawn from opsi battles

[midnight holly]

Do we have a limit on how many can spawn in a day?

[barren tapir]

not that im aware of theyre low chance on every trigger tho, so dont expect to spawn dozens

and it's random which one you spawn soo

[midnight holly]

Yup

Aight, thanks

[fervent niche]

does anyone want to help me with my fleets in the thread I created?

[stone sluice]

There’s no “Build 3 ships” incentive for this event, right?

[whole crypt]

there is like every event

[midnight holly]

Is it the same to pull 10x as 1x?

Is it more effective to do 10x?

[atomic abyss]

probability wise? yes

[whole crypt]

there's no bonus for doing them in 10s so it's just a matter of convenience

[crimson glacier]

10x only saves time

[midnight holly]

I see

[stone sluice]

I don’t see it

[barren tapir]

you probably already completed it for today

[stone sluice]

I have not claimed any daily/event incentive today
But if you can claim it I guess I just missed it for whatever reason

[tame jungle]

well, then look again because the build 3 ships daily is definitely a thing

[cinder hornet]

do I have enough decent units to build 2 somehow capable fleets? I'm thinking on leveling a second fleet in the lower stages of the event while the first one is out of morale

[atomic abyss]

no

[mint flint]

just slap your students into your dorm

[whole crypt]

chances are you claimed without noticing

[mint flint]

you shouldnt have morale issues as long as they're in there

[tame jungle]

depends on how hard you farm

[cinder hornet]

I'm currently farming non stop so they tend to go out of morale, yup

[atomic abyss]

take a break and do something else

[tame jungle]

guess you'll have to do it in waves for now then

you have a long time still left to get event points

[barren tapir]

nah you do if you keep on running t5 without any breaks

[whole crypt]

when I run short on morale I just swap Downes for Cassin

[cinder hornet]

I would prefer to farm the points sooner rather than later, I missed some objectives in the past event cos I'm not used yet to them

[barren tapir]

take breaks, t5 is very very fast so you will drain rapidly without breaks or fleet swaps

[atomic abyss]

^

even if we could build a 2nd fleet

they'd just get shredded due to lack of levels, gears and limit breaks

[barren tapir]

if you have time to spread out, one fleet is plenty just run 3 sorties every 45 minutes or so consistently. youll use your oil just fine

i only did multiple fleets to go under oilcap

[cinder hornet]

I mean that's why I said "in the lower stages of the event", like starting in T1 and going from there, not T5 straight

[barren tapir]

waste of oil imo

[mint flint]

no oil cap so not worth doing

[atomic abyss]

you'll use more oil grinding those than T5

[whole crypt]

if you want to do lower stages you could try 3-oil T3, if you can't do super low cost then just wait for morale on T5

[soft raft]

or make another grind fleet

[cinder hornet]

well but that's a different story, it's not the same being a "waste of oil" than "your units won't survive", I wonder where or when should I work on a 2nd fleet then? is there a specific way or stage for that?

[barren tapir]

i dont think they have a prepped 0lb common fleet

[soft raft]

when you get to at least W9

[atomic abyss]

reaching w9 is when we start to consider
usually slightly after that

looking at the ship levels, i doubt you've reached that far

[cinder hornet]

I'm currently not pushing the story because we've had back to back events, is that ok?

[soft raft]

that's fine yeah
this collab event is alot easier (Outside of EX Mode lol) so the oil cap stage (T5) is relatively more acessible

[barren tapir]

yeah id just focus event if you like the event

[stark quiver]

even the normal ex is easy

[cinder hornet]

ok, will slowly farm T5 then, thanks everyone for the help 🙇‍♂️

[barren tapir]

do campaign in dead weeks, campaign takes a bunch of babysitting and oil to progress also

[whole crypt]

event comes first, if you're done with event or during non-event weeks do campaign

[barren tapir]

you can do operation siren while waiting on morale

[eternal moth]

I don't remember, were you the person that complained about needing 48k points for the medals?

[atomic abyss]

he was asking about it

[stark quiver]

did i just hear 48k for medals

[eternal moth]

They're dropping the requirements

Max needed to spend is now 15k

[stark quiver]

azur lane discovers theyre playerbase is mostly casual

[whole crypt]

they know, they just forget every so often

[soft raft]

yeah I saw that earlier this morning
figured that was a huge ask for casual players, people who dont really care about this collab and just want to get it over with (like me), and fresh newbies that would be drawn in by the collab

[whole crypt]

and more troublesome isn't the casual players but the new ones that join for the collab, which have limited capacity to grind

[cinder hornet]

ins't there an event where we need to spend like 100k event currency for the collab?

[barren tapir]

48k over 2 weeks is easy but it's better for collab especially to be casual friendly so everyone can participate

[real jasper]

Hi guys. I level up my MKII and can no longer use her to limit break. What should I do with her now?

[barren tapir]

also for newbies

[whole crypt]

I don't think there's ever been an event where you need to spend 100k

[soft raft]

change your filter to show ships/bullins that are higher than lvl 1

should be like a 👁️ > 1

[real jasper]

I did that, but cant use her still

[cinder hornet]

sorry, not spend, collect, but I believe there is an event currently where I'm getting rewards and goes up to 100K

[soft raft]

who are you trying to limit break?

[whole crypt]

every new event goes up to 100k but the T5 box at 80k and 100k is useless

and you also have tryhards and leaderboarders that go way past 100k anyway

[barren tapir]

not useless but not worth grinding for it's just a bonus reward for nolifer who really want the d3 drop or whatever

[mint flint]

is she locked, and are you limit breaking an SR ship

[real jasper]

Ah ok let me check if I lock her. Ty

[whole crypt]

but T5 boxes are useless

[wind hazel]

[real jasper]

I use 2 levelless on lala already, but cant use the leveled one on her. No lock btw

[stark quiver]

repair crane moment

[novel solstice]

Did you tap the "don't show lvl > 1 ships" button?

[atomic abyss]

^

[hollow wren]

will the collab event get a hard more for farming like in the previous rerun event?

[atomic abyss]

no

[real jasper]

Yes I did that. Work perfecr on the 4* one

[whole crypt]

T5 boxes just guarantee you gold gear which will drop from T4 boxes anyway

[wind hazel]

she might be in guild ops

[hollow wren]

oke ;/ ty

[novel solstice]

Or in hard mode somewhere? That probably also makes her unavailable.

[real jasper]

What is guild ops, I dont think I use her on anyteam now

[wind hazel]

your guild operation, sometimes auto select will take some unit without you realizing it

[stark quiver]

is she on a commision?

btw how much xp is needed to level one meta ship skill

[real jasper]

I dont use her on anything now this is what I see

[stone sluice]

I consider this EX stage is way easier than the last ones

[stark quiver]

the hard one is kinda hard

[whole crypt]

if you play the "normal" EX instead of the hard one it's easy yes

[stone sluice]

I guess so.
I’m gonna check tomorrow but I think i didn’t claim it 🤔

[ivory pawn]

Does the leveled Bulin show “in action” or something when you look at it in the dock screen?

[haughty dust]

How is Exeter once retrofitted?

[barren tapir]

how easy ppl said tempesta was easy but i couldnt do it on auto

[stark quiver]

also mind if i ask, how long would it usually go for

[wind hazel]

easier than tempesta, trust

[viscid swift]

10-15 minutes

[haughty dust]

The next few characters on the list I can retrofit are Mogami, Eldridge, York, Ping Hai, West Virgina, and Exeter.

[real jasper]

Pls help, I'm new to the game but now my 2 MKII become useless

[haughty dust]

just wondering who to go for next when I get around to it.

[barren tapir]

eldridge > all of those

need to retro for collection anyway tho

[real jasper]

Those 2 with level cant be used to limit break

[stark quiver]

to get the full xp cap? its been running for half an hour already

[haughty dust]

I see, and after Eldridge then?

[barren tapir]

just click the upper right options in lb menu to show level/locked

[atomic abyss]

do you have eldridge's retrofit item

[viscid swift]

I should say that's about the minimum I'd expect

half an hour doesn't suprise me

[stark quiver]

west virginia if you really have to

[atomic abyss]

i wouldnt bother retrofitting everything

[viscid swift]

though do note it doesn't automatically stop once you get to 30k so it helps to check

[real jasper]

@barren tapir I did it already

[barren tapir]

west virginia is an ok gold bb if you dont have any UR or better bb otherwise just collections

[real jasper]

But I cant see them

[haughty dust]

Not yet have not even started. I am mostly just a collector in games and try to get everything I can. I do not have SR bulin to start retrofitting her atm.

[atomic abyss]

eldridge retro item is limited

[twin isle]

I have a dumb question, I can't connect the circuit, it is breaking away before the last connection, how do you make it ?

[haughty dust]

On another note. Should I take Mogador to 125 at some point. She is at 120 rn

[atomic abyss]

if you dont have it there's no point retrofitting her

[barren tapir]

i mean if you want to retro everyone go for it just take your time since theyre expensive

[haughty dust]

I have it. I just do not have the SR bulin to begin

[barren tapir]

pace yourself

[haughty dust]

@stark quiver wdym?

[barren tapir]

if you use her in endgame content and your main fleets and tanks are 125 should be good

[atomic abyss]

your prio now is raising good ships and getting good gear

not retrofitting everything

[stark quiver]

you could if you want

[barren tapir]

wrong tag

[atomic abyss]

research will eat up almost all the coin you need for retrofits

[stark quiver]

oh bruh wrong message

[real jasper]

They dont show up even after I do that, do you know there's something else cause that?

[twin isle]

I can't connect this one

[haughty dust]

was just asking out of curiousity as I am aware the PR/DR ships hog your retrofit materials

[wind hazel]

#gameplay-help message

[atomic abyss]

it's not about retrofit mats

[barren tapir]

something like this

[atomic abyss]

it';s the coins

[stark quiver]

oh i did it the other way

[twin isle]

Now I understand its logic thanks guys

[safe dune]

i just pulled lala, and she's not in my dock, help 😭

[twin isle]

I was trying to connect two edges of the lines

[ivory pawn]

Checked your Filters?

[safe dune]

let me try that thank you!

[stark quiver]

at most how many meta ships will i probably use at a time?
way too much rigging stuff not enough ships

[atomic abyss]

1, maybe 2

michita and bearnM are probably the most used

maybe helmet too

[barren tapir]

yeah this ex still hard for me

is helena even good for it

[wind hazel]

helena is probably best option for most new to mid game players

[viscid swift]

yes, and it shouldn't be that difficult

[stark quiver]

heavy armor enemy btw

[barren tapir]

i can only get it to half

[stark quiver]

run 3 tanks

[barren tapir]

i do about 25% per minute

[viscid swift]

you're fighting against a non moving boss so stack as many converging TBs as you can and if need be reroll for Helena procs

[barren tapir]

fancy is 113, neptune is 114

[stark quiver]

they arent gonna help

[viscid swift]

you need more damage not eHP

[jaunty glade]

is there anything to do with the absurd amount of extra points you get for the black friday event?

[viscid swift]

nope

[forest palm]

[hollow gust]

This event made me question the average intelligence of AL players

[flint moss]

Is anyone else experiencing random hangs on loading after the update?

[barren tapir]

gah im so close is there anything i could change to get enough bulk for another 20s or so, i have convergings on amagi and uni

[stark quiver]

Run 2 tanks

[hollow gust]

Run better tanks and not use unicorn lmao

[barren tapir]

is it worth losing dmg for a tank that's underlevelled?

[barren tapir]

my best tanks are portland 120 fancy 113 neptune 114

[whole crypt]

you know there's still 10+ days to the event for you to level right

[undone plover]

Are u using manjuu for invuln?

[errant frigate]

How do I get more submarines

[barren tapir]

i don't have it

i thought this was supposed to be easy

[whole crypt]

they're mostly in special pool, some are in shops, but depending on where you are in the game you really don't need them

[stark quiver]

Pretty easy to get iirc for manjuu
Well easy is subjective

[whole crypt]

it is, but you just didn't make the cut

[barren tapir]

would this do better

[stone sluice]

I do but I think is my network

[sweet delta]

Wait that's easy mode?

[whole crypt]

do you have any lv125 main fleet ships besides those, 119 Amagi is sus

[viscid swift]

what gear are you running?

[whole crypt]

it's not like you're even using her torp damage buff

[barren tapir]

ok nvm that went a lot worse

[barren tapir]

shes always been in my boss fleets tbh so she hasnt gotten the chance to level too much

[stone sluice]

Is EX boss heavy? I thought she was medium

[barren tapir]

i think uni + nep may do it nep shield seems to help her survive better

[whole crypt]

well do you have a better ship then

[barren tapir]

i doubt it, my best cvs are amagi sara indep uni

[whole crypt]

any BBs

nothing on the tin says you have to use CVs

[barren tapir]

ok it worked

also wow neptune dmg is so much better than portland

ty for the advice on the tbs and 2 tanks xd

her shield is so strong she was still at full hp when port and helena died and was able to bring home the W

[dawn ledge]

once i get 3 stars do i need to beat the boss to save the progression or can i leave once i get the stars ?

[tame jungle]

just do the boss

[dawn ledge]

okay thx

[spring topaz]

is this event a particularly good use case for the x2 loot multiplier things?

[tame jungle]

i'd say use case is the same as normal

use them whenever you have little time but still want to grind a bit

[keen sable]

When you want to play less

[viscid swift]

I use it for B1/T3 farming

[barren tapir]

save those for good event drop in limited time (like yk2 rerun as an example) unless you lack enough time to farm an event normally. use them when they're needed based on your irl schedule

they can be worth here for gearskins if you somehow have so much oil you cant use it all in 2 weeks i guess

[spring topaz]

nah, I'm refilling oil from storage daily

[junior walrus]

Can I retire any of these and it not matter too much?

[viscid swift]

you can retire all the dupes

[spring topaz]

Click the cog wheel, and select the option to preserve enough copies so that you can Max LB them, and the rest are safe to retire

[barren tapir]

use dupes to lb then retire extras

[fleet cobalt]

how do you get darkness's augment item?

[atomic abyss]

it's one of the collab missions

[ivory pawn]

Just 3* T1.

[atomic abyss]

all the augments are from missions

[junior walrus]

I mean is there any reason id want to LB those rares?lmao

I’m just trying to get Enterprise since the guide values get really heavily

[soft raft]

tech points
and some of them give good lvl 120 fleet tech bonuses

[barren tapir]

long term tech points/fleet tech

[soft raft]

but in most cases, you're fine scrapping dupes for medals for now since rares are quite easy to farm, and Purple bullins are relatively common

[sweet delta]

Since when did the event map show the exact number of currency drop?

[boreal wagon]

since this event probably

[junior walrus]

Go haul improvement into hit enhancement? Or should I get aviation for best short term gain

[spring topaz]

There are two mechanics worth investing in that are going to come into play if you end up playing the game for a few months.
"Tech Points" which is required to begin unlocking ships through the Priority Research. Acquiring, Max LimitBreak and reaching level 120 are the 3 stages each ship can contibute tech points at.

Additionally, on your way to MLBing every ship you will also want to consider leveling them up to 120 for I blieve what is a faction wide bonus provided by each ship. See screen shot for example:

[tame jungle]

not factionwide, hull type specific bonus

[junior walrus]

I’m enjoying the game and how f2p friendly it is so I will probably play for a few months I’m just trying to rush the best early units I can get. So my thought process is rushing enterprise will help me get through campaign faster.

[spring topaz]

thank you for clarification

[spring topaz]

It's definitely something you put on the backburner, but it does make dock space management a huge pain

[tame jungle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology wiki page does a good job explaining it, but early on no real need to worry too much about it. just focus on getting through campaign

[junior walrus]

I did spend $1 for the gems from Black Friday deal, but don’t plan on spending more tbh, I’m at 1200 gems but trying to avoid using until needed

[tame jungle]

do you have your 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor yet?

[sweet delta]

If 4 oil T4 were possible, would you take 10% more points per oil or 20% more gear skins per oil compared to 3 oil T3? (Assuming gear skins per sortie is the same)

[barren tapir]

there is no rushing this game, lol. youll take months and months to finish campaign

[viscid swift]

the former since I don't really care about gear skins

[ivory pawn]

I’m no pro, but I’d recommend pushing to Modernization. When you get blocked by gold prints you can go back and fill out the stuff you skipped for blue/purple.

[fervent niche]

I have yet to do pr6, 7 that because I still have ships in pr 3 and pr 5 (all besides chesire, I'm just missing breast in pr5) should I keep my research focus in 4 (I have 2 proto tenrai). was wondering if I should shift my focus to higher pr's

[spring topaz]

You want to take the shortest path to unlock the rarity upgrade, and then fill in the rest later I guess.

[junior walrus]

3rd slot yes, I’m farming coins right now for 2nd floor, I still need to expand my space first. I just started on Monday so,

[barren tapir]

yeah especially when the modernization is gamechanging like uni's imo

[tame jungle]

ah right, then it's fine to just get 2nd floor and then pump the rest into dockspace

[junior walrus]

i am correct in the sesne you have to expand the space before getting 2nd floor right?

[cobalt rapids]

what armor is EX

[barren tapir]

heavy, apparently

[cobalt rapids]

thanks

[sweet delta]

Cassin works too and could be safer, but she needs to wait for one extra ranger strike on the boss #gameplay-help message

[junior walrus]

spending guild tokens on blueprints for retro fit is worth?

They seem pretty easy to get so

[viscid swift]

hmmmmm

maybe I shouldn't have scrapped my level 70 rangers

[sweet delta]

Did level 1 rAnger with cassin z20 fail?

[whole crypt]

Z20 is light pool only?

[viscid swift]

yes

[sweet delta]

Some event drops z20

[viscid swift]

z20 is a drop only

[sweet delta]

With manjuu on ranger?

[whole crypt]

[viscid swift]

no but I doubt that would have saved it

[whole crypt]

guess I'll have to use Cassin and dig for z20 another time

[ivory pawn]

Yes. Especially if gold and you’re going to use them.

[junior walrus]

Also is it fine using epic Bulin on Helena or just wait for guild shop to respawn?

[sweet delta]

Didn't guild shop just refresh 12 hours ago

[junior walrus]

Yeah and i just cashed that bitch out

[whole crypt]

if I'm lazy to take mog gun off mog will Phoenix work for 2 more oil

[junior walrus]

So if I wanted to limit break Helena again I’d have to use epic bulin

[sweet delta]

Then use bulin

[spring topaz]

is that, only the ships that share a row, so in the example of Langley, there is only one Langely class ship currently, and so only Langely the ship will get the indicated bonus?

[sweet delta]

Hull is CVL, while Langley-class is class

Langley gives tech to all mlb CVL and CV

[spring topaz]

ah, great, ty

substantial then

[real jasper]

Can anyone give me some recommendation for Lala's gear?

[hollow gust]

what class is lala again?

[junior walrus]

I know it’s a little rng dependent but am I more likely to use Helena or Portland longer. Either of them worth using retrofit material on?

[real jasper]

Lala is heavy cruiser

[whole crypt]

you'll use Helena till late game but you need to retrofit Portland anyway for rookie mission and she'll be your best tank up through midgame

[eternal moth]

Helena, but you want to retro Portland first

[whole crypt]

yeh I can work with 6 oil T4 not bothering to move mog gun

[junior walrus]

And I just want to quick path to modernization and then fill in?

[whole crypt]

first of all you probably want to be retrofitting Unicorn first, so you should be working on CV prints before cruiser prints

[junior walrus]

I’m focusing unicorn, I just had some prints left over

Just trying to use all the resources I can that are available

[whole crypt]

considering how long you'll be using the ship just take all the nodes, if you had to prioritize for now then rush for modernization

[sweet delta]

💀 why not just 5 oil with cassin downes with twin 100 kais

[whole crypt]

that works... I'll think about it when Cassin's not orange anymore

guess I could swap my babysitters out of dorm for the event

[junior walrus]

caved and bought cruise pass oops

[soft raft]

🆗

[junior walrus]

seems like good value and ill get the collab character and should set me up for UR next month

Is it bad?

[tame jungle]

well if you can grind the missions within like 8 days it's fine

[keen sable]

how does it help you get collab character?

[tame jungle]

coob

[keen sable]

there's no guarantee...

[junior walrus]

coob and resources to get more coobs

do URs not have pity?

[tame jungle]

URs do

SSRs and lower do not

[junior walrus]

yeah between new player missions, commissions, and cruise pass i don't think i'll struggle to get enough cubes

[slate siren]

i am unable to beat these even with 120 ships

[keen sable]

manual double tap cv on aviation

[slate siren]

why wouldn't u use 3 cvs

[keen sable]

you don't need to be good at manual. just double tap boss when it appears

[barren tapir]

3 cvs on aviation super easy

[keen sable]

typo

[slate siren]

alr ill try it

[junior walrus]

im at 91/100 already i think i should be able to do it

[ocean fog]

try using helena

[slate siren]

k

completed it with b grade

[viscid swift]

what were you using

[slate siren]

i sorted cv by level and choose the highest avi stat

[viscid swift]

well no wonder

[barren tapir]

thought you had 120 ships

[viscid swift]

yeah that's not how you choose ships for your fleet

[barren tapir]

no tank

[slate siren]

that was bb fleet

[viscid swift]

okay, so what BBs did you use then, and what gear

[barren tapir]

you could use bb fleet in shelling if you wanted

the key is just to follow the one you pick bc that dmg type gets a massive dmg boost and everything else is nerfed

[slate siren]

kgv suruga warspite

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

yeah that's also pretty shit

[slate siren]

WDYMM

[viscid swift]

all 3 are mediocre ships

[barren tapir]

even worse if warspite isnt retro

[viscid swift]

probably not helped by poor gearing

[keen sable]

B is what? someone died?

[slate siren]

they have the highest fp stat of all my bbs

[viscid swift]

they lost someone and took too long to kill

[hollow gust]

when spite is the best ship thats depressing asf

[barren tapir]

tho honestly the dmg bonus is so big im surprised that still failed...

[slate siren]

all of them have the gear from the gear guide

[viscid swift]

that doesn't tell me much

anyway, we'll redo this properly
start a thread and post your dock please

[slate siren]

mew is bad at game

[fervent niche]

for bossing barrage nj, mushi, alsace? I don't have any pr6,7 ships

[keen sable]

it's a fleet

[pliant acorn]

Is my fleet in w15 good? And can u give me a guide/tips to clear it

[keen sable]

would be a lot safer with aquila+volga

[hollow gust]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[pliant acorn]

I dont have aquila💀.
And do shimanto is required to clean w15?

[stark quiver]

no

[hollow gust]

the more u deviate from suggested fleets the harder it gets

[pliant acorn]

I have guam and sandy should i use them in mob or boss?

[white agate]

Question is, is the best team supposed to auto or manual w15?
Because else manual may be more lenient?

[keen sable]

auto

[ocean fog]

using sandy on mob fleet is better

[forest jasper]

#gameplay-help message

[ocean fog]

not gonna let pesky plane pass your mob fleet

[barren tapir]

manual is much more lenient, like way more. but everything suggested here is for auto

if something can auto it can manual anyway so

[ocean fog]

which map is good for exp grinding?

[hollow gust]

12-4

[keen sable]

T5?

[ocean fog]

okay. . .

gonna push from 6-4 after. . . five years.

[ocean fog]

idk whut t5 mean, im old and im a slacc

outdated ooga bunga

[ivory pawn]

Ongoing event stage that came out yesterday.

[ocean fog]

TTL5 you mean?

[tame jungle]

no he does not

[keen sable]

no I mean T5 Final Challenge

[ocean fog]

uh, I don't think i could do that just yet

[barren tapir]

t5 in event has about 11-1 exp efficiency iirc

[keen sable]

well you certainly ain't going to be doing 9-1 or even 8-1 then most likely

[ocean fog]

i am a total slacker that my dock is wierd

[sweet delta]

You're telling us that this dock can't do T5?

[viscid swift]

are you suprised at this point

[keen sable]

tap Event. Go as far as you can. Come back for additional advice.

(hardstuck T4 the new 11-3)

[ocean fog]

i mean, some of my ship sunk while doing SP so

[barren tapir]

it absolutely can do t5

[sweet delta]

So what?

[barren tapir]

uni retro can carry literally anything in t5

[ocean fog]

(im that kind of paranoid player then got overgeared it crush the difficulty)

[tame jungle]

just play the game

[barren tapir]

i carried a 0lb lvl30ish nana thru t5 so

[junior walrus]

Is this formation fine?

[ocean fog]

i could imagine nana cowering amidst shell and planes, lmao

[stark quiver]

other than some lb levels yea

[ocean fog]

okay

[barren tapir]

they have good ships too like just do hood enty uni sanfran tash sandy and bulldoze with raw levels (this should be super overkill to boot)

[ocean fog]

alright ima try to do it i guess

[barren tapir]

just limitbreak enty and helena when you can

[ocean fog]

nvm im drunk

i thought this one

[junior walrus]

Unicorn is still first prio tho right?

[ocean fog]

it was normal difficulty

[junior walrus]

wait uni already MLB nvm lol

[barren tapir]

your uni is mlb already but yes shes first prio for retrofit

[junior walrus]

yeah idk why when i limitbreak i thought of retro

[ocean fog]

my smooth brain mistaken it for challenge mode lmao

[junior walrus]

Also tbis team is struggling to do T5 of the event. Any reason why? No one is retrofit fully and needs some LBs. I’m sure that would help, but any other reason why it wouldn’t be able to do it?

[hollow gust]

limitbreaks make up as much as 50% of damage output ofc its gonna matter, not to mention each level difference is 2% damage done and taken

[barren tapir]

single fleet? might have trouble on boss

[viscid swift]

levels, gears, skill levels, etc

[barren tapir]

bigger issue is the lbs on enty and gearing probably

[hollow gust]

just max limitbreaking and lvl 100 will make the t5 trivial

[barren tapir]

lvl 100 will take them some time

[silk helm]

so true

[ocean fog]

get the book~

[junior walrus]

Yeah I started working on focusing good gear yesterday. I am running single fleet, but now that you mention it I could probably make a half ass 2nd fleet now

[barren tapir]

lvl80s with decent gear and mlb should be ok

[spring bolt]

retrofit portland asap, pre-retro she's just a worse Indianapolis, and old gen cas before lv100 are frail

[junior walrus]

What about unicorns retrofit is so good?

[barren tapir]

levelling anywhere else is gonna be less efficient as long as they can clear t5 even if it's a struggle

in a case like this, manualling it to safe may be worth it bc its gonna be far more efficient than anything else you could farm rn

[ocean fog]

mob fleet heal

[sweet delta]

Tap the question mark box on her modernization node

[hollow gust]

Preload/damage/ healing

[ocean fog]

preload airstrike + heal, basically easy survive

[barren tapir]

also backline heal on first airstrike, +1 fighter so better AA

gamechanging is the tldr of it

[ocean fog]

this was aug right

[barren tapir]

no, that's her modernization node

[junior walrus]

i can build an augment for her, but was told to hold off

[barren tapir]

ignore augments for now, and you would never prioritize blue/purple augments anyway

[atomic abyss]

and you should

[junior walrus]

it's an epic one, but was told to wait for a better one and when i had more coins

[atomic abyss]

only unique augments are worth crafting at your point

[viscid swift]

elite/purple you mean?

[atomic abyss]

most ships, unicorn included do not have one

[junior walrus]

yeah purple

[barren tapir]

save all your resources for gold augments for ships you use that gain a huge bonus from augment. don't augment ships you dont use a lot

[atomic abyss]

if you were using say hood, then yes

[ocean fog]

I hear that sandy aug barrage is bugged, was it worth it?

[barren tapir]

examples that may be relevant to you in the somewhat near future are hood, sandy, sara, stuff like that

[viscid swift]

it's good even with the bugs

[junior walrus]

yeah I have a san diego, but was told basically useless till i can instantly retrofit

[atomic abyss]

it's still broken AF with the bug nerfing it

[barren tapir]

also the pr1 augments but that would be if you care to make and use those ships

[wide ember]

Do these 2 parties seem good i have no clue about fleet building

[barren tapir]

that is correct bc she is incredibly expensive. you are poor right now, so do her later when you are not poor. she should come after uni, portland, starter, and nelson if you use nelson

(at minimum, and also wouldnt do her until comfortably in w12)

[barren tapir]

nagato is pretty and you shouldnt use amagicv if not mlb

[wide ember]

Any other recommendations ?

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys T1 and T5 are the ones that we should 3 star right? Other stages we can skip?

[barren tapir]

3 star all of them you get mission reward for each and you have to go in order anyway for mission rewards

[ivory pawn]

It's also stupidly easy, literally just full clear the map once.

[hollow gust]

nagato is the weak point

[wide ember]

I will replace her later on

I am finishing Hakuryu and will put Amagi into Flag

Is that good ?

[sweet delta]

No

[barren tapir]

for campaign no, and the mlb issue exists.

[sweet delta]

First of all, what even are these fleets for?

[wide ember]

I am using them for overall anything so far like i said i have no clue about fleet building

[viscid swift]

you're probably not doing anything where specializing matters for now

I give them like a 4/10

Amagi is missing 3 bullins, Nagato, and several ships are really underleveled

NJ on mob may or may not also be worth docking points for

[barren tapir]

monty isnt mlb either

[keen sable]

If you can clear T5 even manually(like the first 3 sirens) it gets much easier on safe

[viscid swift]

no wait it definitely is

[left nest]

akagi u works with amagi cv's skill 3 yea?

[viscid swift]

yes

[junior walrus]

The new collab unit from the event shop, would she replace anyone in here?

[viscid swift]

no but she might be a good choice for the 2nd fleet

[junior walrus]

im not huge on collecting every character so if i would be better off long term just getting useful material from the shop im 100% okay with that

[keen sable]

tactics wise I would maybe like pull out the two best ships to solo boss with and carry two new ships in mob with unicorn + sandwich

[ocean fog]

collab is mostly designed for full collab fleet with their respective aug

[keen sable]

a lot easier to digest than 6 brand new ships

[viscid swift]

what

[spring bolt]

yeah yesterday i skipped at least 1 elite every t5 run until i reached safe, and my fleet was worse than yours

[sweet delta]

What

[junior walrus]

but from like beginner trying progressive perspective would I be better just copping some materials

[keen sable]

money should have been spent on commander level boost

[left nest]

make a thread for that

[ocean fog]

oh wait, we didn't do that anymore

(hololive collab flashback)

[wide ember]

okay will do that

[viscid swift]

eh not really, like anything you could get would only be drop on the ocean

[sweet delta]

What

[ocean fog]

what

[barren tapir]

well yes but actually no

[viscid swift]

the vanguards are, main fleets have no reason be sortied in a to love ru fleets

[barren tapir]

the sister frontline is pretty good with their big aug barrage boost, but slotting in superior ships for a particular role should still be superior

[wide ember]

Have no idea about fleets any recommendations appreciated

[barren tapir]

the backlines have 0 synergy and only golden darkness is good enough to be used (if you like her)

[ocean fog]

is every tlr ship has no all out barrage?

the vanguard

[barren tapir]

wym? yeah they dont have aoas

their skills kinda stand in for it as pseudo aoas

[ocean fog]

i see

[barren tapir]

nana and momo skill barrages are quite strong also

nana aug enhanced barrage shud be pretty fat too, 675/675/675 with torp scaling and she has a multitute of torp buffs and high torp stat

[keen sable]

that's typical for collab ships

[barren tapir]

nana shud be the dps of the bunch when in sister frontline

[cold flint]

how do I get the Cyanidin Support Towel

[atomic abyss]

event limited to this year's polaris event

wait for it to be archived

[cold flint]

do u know when? kinda stupid but anyway

[atomic abyss]

no

[cold flint]

how about the RPG Adventure Interface

[viscid swift]

also event limited

[tame jungle]

that was nubian event

[cold flint]

Im wondering how did I miss so many things

[viscid swift]

a lot can happen in a short period of time, relatively speaking

[ocean fog]

man, Aug is really cost a lot of gold

[dawn ledge]

is amagi-chan worth upgrading

[atomic abyss]

no

[dawn ledge]

and haguro?

[atomic abyss]

no

[dawn ledge]

Who's the best elite?

[vale spindle]

helena
portland (retrofit)

[dawn ledge]

damn i dont have them

[vale spindle]

guild shop time

[dawn ledge]

i need to wait

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips for more info

[slow fox]

I set the uptime for DR but not the DR itself teehee

[junior walrus]

bruh thinks i can count past 3

[sweet delta]

+2%?

The uptime is like 2/3 or more

[barren tapir]

if lala is polling at drake/eugen ehp shouldnt she land around 115-120%

[sweet delta]

CN probably included the enemy debuff and vacuum blocking shots

[barren tapir]

yeah probably

i saw from someone that momo plants snapshot when they spawn and can spawn with rudder passive active is that legit

[sweet delta]

Or only 8/14

[tranquil saffron]

How does this work?

[barren tapir]

you can go diagonal

hit each box once

go from green arrow to red arrow

[stark quiver]

Does Kazas buff still apply after she dies

[tranquil saffron]

Ah ok

[ivory pawn]

Go diagonal to one of the side boxes, then work your way back around.

[junior walrus]

bro did not pass geometry

[bleak sequoia]

Hah, I just click on the Help Me Miss Lala logo a few times and it does it for me 😄

[atomic lagoon]

Kazagumo? She needs to be alive

I think the Sirius buff stays after she sinks

[atomic abyss]

yes sirius buff remains

[vale spindle]

It says in her skill while this ship is afloat

[gray sphinx]

A lot of us don’t read ship skills because of the sheer amount of them . We just dumb brain dead waifu loving collectors

[barren tapir]

why read when gph is here to answer us

[sweet delta]

Be sure to read Momo's skills...

[dreamy blade]

muse ships don't give any faction or 120 tech?

[ivory pawn]

Yep, no tech for muse ships. https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Roon_µ for example, says it right there in the Fleet Tech section.

[dreamy blade]

I'm assuming same goes for collab ships?

[atomic lagoon]

Who should I MLB? I was thinking of Moggy and Sushi but now I'm not sure if I should not just wait for the December UR event. I got 6 Bulins atm

[wide ember]

Is there a list about which guns are most suited on specific ships ?

[soft raft]

Shinano (Since you already have 4 other UR BBs)
Then save the remaining two until the Dec one comes out

[soft raft]

ECTL has general suggestions tha works for campaign, but otherwise /equip has a more detailed guide

it basically boils down to "Gear is context specific"

[forest palm]

would honestly just wait and see what the Dec UR will be

[junior walrus]

Is the efficiency % at the top going over how good the weapon is?

[rain bobcat]

no

[slow fox]

The skill counts +MGM?

[soft raft]

that's the efficency of the mount
which influences how much damage the equipped item will do

[sweet delta]

frfr

[vale spindle]

no its just a stat multiplier
different ships have different efficiencies
generally higher efficiency is higher damage from that slot, but damage also scales off of stats and skills too

[junior walrus]

maybe should've worded my question better. So higher effeciency in most cases is generally what you want?

[slow fox]

I get 40s uptime for 87s battle

[viscid swift]

the efficiency of a slot is fixed unless skills specify other wise

[soft raft]

And efficency isnt the main aspect that people look at when determining how good a ship is

[wide ember]

There are 2 ectl lists with different recommendations

[soft raft]

huh the fuck you mean there's a 2nd ECTL

[vale spindle]

ectl recommendations are ship specific
different ships prefer different weapons despite being the same hull type

[wide ember]

There are 2 pages that i found that's what i mean

[vale spindle]

you might be confusing ectl and ecgc

[junior walrus]

Maybe the better question would be are my build shits

I am buying the protype 3 blue prints when available

[viscid swift]

in a word yes

[ivory pawn]

You’re new, it’s expected to be bad.

[viscid swift]

at least use your Mk6 and Helldiver

[paper lantern]

looks somewhat less bad than expected tbh

[sweet delta]

How can Lala be lower than Sanfran front? San Fran has 15% perma DR, but Lala has 400 more HP and marginally higher luck

[junior walrus]

well yesterday i was using sonars which i was told was uselss

[sleek vault]

What % chance of SR ship is in T5 usually?

[viscid swift]

we don't know

[soft raft]

to put it simply, we have no idea
and probably never will

[paper lantern]

do we literally only know the fox droprates and nothing else?

[soft raft]

Map droprates are serverside so they cant be datamined

[slow fox]

15% Perma DR the GOAT

[viscid swift]

yes

[junior walrus]

im not seeing those? for which unit?

[viscid swift]

the Mk6 is a BB main gun and Helldiver is a dive omber

[soft raft]

406 Mk6 for your Howe in the main guns lot and Helldiver for Enterprise's Dive bomber slot

[viscid swift]

you get +6 ones for free

[sweet delta]

Assume 7s or 8s per salvo and remember that vanguard guns are preloaded. 48/87

[junior walrus]

that's so weird the purple is better than my gold

[viscid swift]

don't assume higher rarity means better for anything in AL

[viscid swift]

that includes gear

[bold stream]

This event t5 is so good for us new players... Getting my toolboxes farm here

[viscid swift]

so where's this Lala has eugen eHP I've been hearing about again

[soft raft]

it do be like that
Helldiver is also the overall 2nd-3rd best DB in the game
Higher rarity doesnt always mean better

a good majortity of gold gear is terrible

[sweet delta]

She decreases enemy stats, and the vacuum can block (or aggro?) shots

[viscid swift]

I see

[junior walrus]

noted i swapped those weapons over. Can someone remind what weapon im supposed to build with the prototype blueprint series 3. I believe it was a 3 barrell something

[viscid swift]

Triple 406/50 mle

[junior walrus]

?

[bold stream]

Wow you are already making proto things..

[viscid swift]

yes

[junior walrus]

I thought i needed 25 to make one

[soft raft]

You do
go get the other 24 needed

[ivory pawn]

You need 25 of what you just got.

[junior walrus]

i clicked that on accident. Also @bold stream i've been asking A LOT of questions in here lol.

[soft raft]

that border around it shows that it's a blueprint

A fully ready to use item wont have that border

[slow fox]

Where block shot skill

[viscid swift]

anyway, have you read Sam's gearing guide?

[junior walrus]

no i read beginners guide and shop guide

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[junior walrus]

I see. Am I basically always going to be making these or just need a few?

[viscid swift]

only 3 max

[bold stream]

30s gun?

[tame jungle]

that's unupgraded

[soft raft]

that's the base reload at enhance lvl 0
At +10 it's more like 21s

[tame jungle]

in practice it'll be closer to 20

[bold stream]

I see!

[barren tapir]

the value shown is also at 100 rld, higher rld stat speeds it up, slower rld stat slows it down

[junior walrus]

So I need 3 of them to go onto my frontlines as main weapons?

[sweet delta]

It seems to not be aggroing

[barren tapir]

value shown when equipping on a specific ship will show the value with the ships' rld stat, but in depot, it's at 100 rld

[soft raft]

It's a BB gun
And BBs are not frontliners

[deep wren]

Hi, I have a question, I already has finished some maps, but in others I haven't collected all 3 stars because some maps are too hard for me, and when I try collect again, only boss appear, what I can do?

[soft raft]

turn off clearing mode

[sweet delta]

At least the vacuum helps pull elbing out of range so she stops machine gunning the vanguard

[deep wren]

Then the enemy fleet will appear again?

[junior walrus]

So most of my damage in reality is from the backline while front line is for clearing mobs? Or is it variable? Depends on enemies

[soft raft]

yup
Clearing mode in Hard mode maps only spawns the boss

[viscid swift]

kind of, vanguard damage isn't negligible depending on the ship

[sweet delta]

Close enough

[junior walrus]

So i'm pretty much building 3 of those to throw onto my Howe

[winged barn]

give Helnar an SG radar- preferd a golden one because her skill, epsacaly retrofit , even for lategame she is a top pick)

[deep wren]

turning off clearing mode works in both modes?

[viscid swift]

no, you are building 3 of those to stick onto 3, preferably UR, BBs down the line

[bold stream]

Hard mkde only

[tame jungle]

only when running bbs with the accelerated reload aux

[soft raft]

if you mean campaign hard mode, yes
if you mean the event's challenge stages, no those are single boss fights by default (And hard mode in regular events still works fine with clearing mode)

[junior walrus]

I'll take a look at gearing guide probably monday since im visiting fam out of town this weekend, but I see. i'm planning on having enough cubes for UR for december hope it's good.

[deep wren]

Oh ok

[viscid swift]

you put SG on Helena when you want the timing which is not always

and that Helena isn't even retrofitted

[deep wren]

I see, I talked about campaign mode because I want to complete some side missions

[bold stream]

Portland retro before helena right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

Unicorn > Portland > Your starter DD > Helena

[junior walrus]

Yeah luckily Unicron and Portland take different material so i've started both. with some lucky hard mode drops i think i'll have unicorn retro'd early next week.

Funny enough I have the golds i need just not the blue or purple

Last question for today I think, but should I save these for now?

[barren tapir]

w1 and w2 hm give purple for 3 star beyond that it's drop cope, guild shop cope, and composing 6 blues into 1 purple (don't do this unless desperate)

[soft raft]

there's really nothing high priority in that shop

[barren tapir]

just save that. eventually youll get them for fleet tech purposes but thats a long time away

[junior walrus]

If i'm trying to rush unicorn retro to at least her modernization is worth composing then?

[barren tapir]

maybe...

[junior walrus]

I mean i did it once already loool. I'll be a little more patient with it and weigh it out.

[tame jungle]

Uhhh are you raising a 2nd uni or am i interpreting it wrong

[barren tapir]

maybe turned blues into purple once already idk

[tame jungle]

Then i might be interpreting it wrong

[bold stream]

I just notice I am 150/150 already. Which ship do I switch to?

[haughty dust]

Tried several things and it’s not counting any thoughts?

[junior walrus]

this is wrong because i did it differently

[tame jungle]

This is not wrong.

[barren tapir]

there are multiple solutions

[junior walrus]

i did it right

[soft raft]

it's litereally just the mirrored version of my solution lmfao

[viscid swift]

there's more than one way to do it

[barren tapir]

which is why i prefer giving the 3 bits of advice so ppl actually understand the puzzle

[tame jungle]

There is not just one specific way to do it

[bold stream]

Who to focus after fdg? Avp?

[junior walrus]

sounds like cope tbh

[barren tapir]

'

[tame jungle]

Be nice

[junior walrus]

start at top red and go down to the right side and move clock wise

[viscid swift]

the saying don't bite the hand that feeds you comes to mind

[junior walrus]

LOOOOOL

[bold stream]

Brest or plym?

[tame jungle]

Ply

[soft raft]

Anchorage and AvP are solid choices
You're eventually gonna do all of PR4 besides Marco anyways

Then afterwards, Ply > Brest > Everyone else

[barren tapir]

this shud work too

[barren tapir]

pr4 pr can be coined right? id prolly focus on the DRs first

[soft raft]

well you cant coin a ship if you didnt even complete the missions so

[viscid swift]

focus doesn't mean focus on in terms of research here

[barren tapir]

well either way is good since doing pr catchup saves a bunch of time as well, but id do DRs first personally

[bold stream]

I just notice I can try build her already...

Go for it?

[viscid swift]

counterpoint, catchup and coining means getting to dev 30 really quickly

[barren tapir]

think you should do anchorage first or was it fdg? both?

maybe do catchup anchorage and build fdg actually

[soft raft]

He's asking for when he's done with FdG

[barren tapir]

he's talking about catchup

[bold stream]

My Fdg is still locked.. maybe build Avp first?

[viscid swift]

it's 6 tech points off

[blissful hamlet]

what armor are all the boss in challenge stage?

[barren tapir]

you only miss 6 kms points, find some trashy ironblood ship and mlb it xd

[viscid swift]

you can find that pretty easily but once again, you are really not in a position to focus on unlocking PR ships right now

[bold stream]

But to max mlb something it needs lv70. I already messed up my exp very much...

[viscid swift]

to be honest it doesn't matter, I ran my PvP build fleet and they all killed in 20 seconds

[barren tapir]

just wait on it then. for catchup you can do anchorage or pick one of the DRs of pr4 or pr5

[bold stream]

Thanks!

[viscid swift]

you can get 6 points just by getting a new iron blood ship

and I know there's plenty you're still missing

[blissful hamlet]

you pvp

[barren tapir]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

[viscid swift]

uh yes

[blissful hamlet]

show pvp fleet

[barren tapir]

#pvp

[viscid swift]

Bullins don't grind themselves

[barren tapir]

maybe i should try winning some now...

[spring bolt]

a quick guess is med heavy light light heavy, from ttl1 to ttl5

[blissful hamlet]

this not what I expected from gph people

[haughty dust]

it worked thanks. Should I ask in this or another channel how to download the data from fleet builder into a file to use on a different computer or should I just use the url file?

[stark quiver]

When jintM rerun

[viscid swift]

soon maybe

she's the next to be added to the dossier

[stark quiver]

Very nice, I need her for pvp

[spring bolt]

CN wiki didn't even bother to make info about ttl stages

[barren tapir]

they're just one and done right?

[viscid swift]

yep

[stark quiver]

I s houldn’t have skipped it

[atomic lagoon]

Wouldn't that be Algérie META?

[viscid swift]

Algerie META should be the one after

[viscid swift]

oh wait no, got the order mixed up

[undone plover]

if u mean this fleet tool u can use this
export a file then import on your other device
idk if it works on mobile tho

u can also just use the url yeah if it is only 1 fleet

[haughty dust]

ohh did not see that before

Thank you. Going to put those on a external drive and copy them to the other computer. This one works but has its issues.

[dreamy blade]

Worth upgrading izumo gun to +13 for musashi? And maybe a ryusei on amagi

[spring bolt]

imo no, daisen gun has better timing
usually i would recommend 2 of each converging tb to +13, so it depends on how many you have

[forest palm]

Amagi doesn't specifically need a Ryuusei

[dreamy blade]

Daisen gun is from research? I haven't used gold plates on anything yet besides champy gun

[spark ridge]

I need a bunch of money for like limit breaking sub and upgrading my subs, buying pry ship bps, should I do a bunch of 11-4 runs, or should I just keep farming event while it’s around?

[forest palm]

pr7 bb gun

[queen jackal]

hows longs it take usually for coin up to release? any estimate on the rest of pr4 release/pr5?

[barren tapir]

do w12

[dreamy blade]

that's what I have on her and don't have any of the sidegrades

[soft raft]

iirc the PR4 PRs got their coining earlier this year in January
And PR4 itself came out 3 years ago

[spark ridge]

Havnt cleared yet, is it worth using oil rn to clear it while event is up?

[barren tapir]

maybe not, you could peek into 12-1 i suppose? i wont bother with w11 farm just do event but event coin is pretty bad

[forest palm]

there's value to + 13 the following TBs Ryuusei, D-4, Saiun Kai, and Mode Change VIT-2

[dreamy blade]

The event isn't super important to farm unless you really need the gold plates from the 55k milestone reward

[barren tapir]

or enjoy the gearskins

[sweet delta]

Everyone really needs the event rewards

[barren tapir]

but yeah you have time to detour to w12 i think if you want its not a rerun so it's not super time crunchy

[sweet delta]

@viscid swift I changed catapult to manjuu, it makes boss 25s longer but ranger could die to airplanes without it

[viscid swift]

yeah she did die when I first tried it

[sweet delta]

~~maybe just put two +13 tenrais to make up some damage ~~

[barren tapir]

what is this for

[forest palm]

I assume low end shenanigans

[stark quiver]

One shot ex?

[spring bolt]

probably low cost farming

[barren tapir]

would it be worth it

[spring bolt]

yes if you value coins

[sweet delta]

I value gear skins

[barren tapir]

i'm not sure how well i could do on that tbh

i think my limit would be t3, is that still worth

[stark quiver]

Well I didn’t oath my ranger for nothing, time to test some shit

[spring bolt]

you don't do it until you have strong crossfleet

[barren tapir]

but the gear skins

[stone sluice]

All event maps drop gear skins?

[spring bolt]

just use storage oil and do full fleet t5 farming
i am even using 2 fleets rotation farming t5

[barren tapir]

i was gonna save oils for yk2

[spring bolt]

yes but t1 to t3 has lower drop rate

[regal tinsel]

is the omnibooster to be unlocked on the powerups or it's to be unlocked while playing the minigame?

[barren tapir]

oh, so you have to do t4 low oil nvm then

[ivory pawn]

Should be the last powerup, unlocks in like 4-5 days.

[regal tinsel]

much thanks

[barren tapir]

i'll just stick to t5 then. somehow it all coincides that uni speeds fights but neptune has mvp control which is nice

[bold stream]

Hello all. Somehow I got yuudachi from my 3 hard repeats. Is she good?

Also, is there any other way to farm gold carrier for uni retro. My daily hards are not giving me gold and these can only be combined up to purple...

[barren tapir]

good if you retro, but expensive to do so and there are alternatives put her aside until later either way

[soft raft]

after retrofit yes, but she's honestly been starting to fall off as of late
and you just gotta farm farm farm, no real way to guarentee gold BPs besides 3*'ing hard mode maps

[barren tapir]

if you like her she still holds her own imo but if not there's no reason to invest in her

[spring bolt]

on paper nana is quite close to poi kai

[bold stream]

I guess i will just try to 3* 7-4

[sweet delta]

Where's the data, and was it collected for T1-T5 collabs?

[barren tapir]

is that with her enhanced augment barrage or by herself?

[bold stream]

But it will cost so much oil.. farming event is so oil relaxing too

[elfin hollow]

im using the day 2 aux on mogador rn

thoughts

[ivory pawn]

Also remember to check guild shop whenever it refreshes, might have some gold prints in stock.

[sharp socket]

is it working for the content you’re doing

[elfin hollow]

yea mogador scales off eva so it works

[barren tapir]

don't forget you can refresh the guild shop once per reset for 50 guild coin

[sharp socket]

if it works it works

[barren tapir]

this one? doesnt seem very worth it on any dd who have very high hit and eva already tbh

[elfin hollow]

i was using a repair toolbox and ascension battery

[spring bolt]

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1002637944676155431
no data only estimation based on previous collab events, t3 3.1%, t4 7%, t5 8.1%

[elfin hollow]

replaced the toolkit

or would it be better on fancy

[barren tapir]

i'll just stick to t5 then

[forest palm]

there's definitely use in this aux though

[elfin hollow]

hmmm

[barren tapir]

where would it be good?

[forest palm]

secondary aux option for CA/CB/CL I'd say

[elfin hollow]

yea seems good on tanks

[barren tapir]

better than toolkit?

[forest palm]

tool kit in itself is also optional, and situational

[elfin hollow]

no u would have to run toolkit still

[barren tapir]

why would you run it over rudder then

i guess as a hybrid aux? rudder + boosta

[elfin hollow]

or just run rudder with it

[barren tapir]

the hit provides some dmg id assume, and it's only 4 eva less than blue rudder

but i definitely wouldnt run it on a dd

[elfin hollow]

yea i switched it on to unzen rn