gameplay-help

[elfin hollow]

when do i get mats for gearlab

[storm heron]

generally dupes is preferred, but guid shop may also sell pensylvania

[spark ridge]

is bread yukikaze? where did she get that nickname from lmao

[eternal moth]

Cat loaf

[spark ridge]

fabulous

[rapid grail]

strongholds, abyssals, hidden zones, c3 >=* c5

caveat* = true if you farm c3 for more akashis

[barren tapir]

any levelled ship suffices the key is something that wont roll over and die and will also do a bit of damage i was using z46 a lot since i need her 120 for kms point

[elfin hollow]

bet bet

[eternal moth]

Do you have Portland?

[elfin hollow]

who

[spark ridge]

max tank aux, and stolen gear from other ships i was levelling

[junior walrus]

It doesn't I'll just hold out for dupes on next banner. I've already start trying to save since the team I'm running is working. Just needs levels.

[elfin hollow]

do your ships lose affinity on opsi?

[fiery raptor]

no

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Portland

[elfin hollow]

wtf thats huge for combat exp then

[rapid grail]

no, no oil for basically free xp and a lot of goodies provided you farm optimally

[barren tapir]

they do benefit from morale bonus so if exp farming ensure they are over 119 morale

[atomic abyss]

Except the exp from opsi is piss

[soft raft]

OpSi XP is comically miniscule in comparison

[elfin hollow]

oh

[barren tapir]

it's piss but it's free (and generates cube/oil/gem comms)

[rapid grail]

but it will compound in the long term if you are dedicated to the grind

[spark ridge]

better than nothing, can super auto it, and get lots of nice other free stuff 👍

[atomic abyss]

Ofc

[eternal moth]

It's not terrible. You should be able to get a ship from 100 to 120 or close to it by using them to clear the entire thing

[barren tapir]

nothing better to do if you're out of oil and don't wanna

[rapid grail]

don't underestimate free farming

[atomic abyss]

But at some point it's more for cmdr exp rather than ship exp

[weary gust]

Exp isn't the reason to do opsi. It's just a bonus. Main reason is gear.

[elfin hollow]

yea im trying to get my hindenburg

[barren tapir]

i did hardcore grind myself from 99 to 100 in around a day, gotta get them arrays

[eternal moth]

99 to 100 is such an annoying grind

[barren tapir]

i managed to hit 100 and do my daily 10min before reset

[storm heron]

tbh early-month opsi 50 zones clearing can give you a lot of exp to level 110 vanguards

[spark ridge]

i forgot to ask, what if unicorn is one of my ships that need levelling 💀 shes only level 105

[barren tapir]

i mean uni is great she will do great

[spark ridge]

wait i lied, she was sitting on awaken, shes level 110 now

[elfin hollow]

i got 2 days off from work ima lock in

[eternal moth]

That's fine

[rapid grail]

sould still be doable, lvl 100 shitters can clear event stages just fine without a healer and decent gearing

[barren tapir]

event maps arent exactly hard, especially on safe threat

lvl100 i was babysitting 3 lvl40-50s at a time

all the kms techs like scharn, spee, hipper, z35 etc

[storm heron]

farm, sure, clear, hmm

[fiery raptor]

this is even on clearing. maybe they'll start to struggle on D3 but then just stuck unicorn and then it's easy again.

[spark ridge]

yeah my helena is level 66, musashi 73,shimakaze 79 (not even MLB). lets see how well i can babysit them lmao.

[barren tapir]

altho last event was easier, i was able to carry lvl30s

[viscid swift]

level 85 enemies do do that

[barren tapir]

well that and no avg lvl requirement

[eternal moth]

Personally I wouldn't even both with ships that aren't MLB; Shima isn't that useful, so you're going to be using bulins on other ships first

[viscid swift]

the collab will be like that for better or worse

[storm heron]

is there any news that tlr characters will have the same secretary effect like senran kagura?

[viscid swift]

I have seen nothing announcing something of the sort

[eternal moth]

I don't remember what you're talking about

[barren tapir]

definitely better lots of easy exp

although, i have critical purple bulin shortages as a result of rushing tech pts

[forest palm]

they've made the distinction for oath if that's what you're asking about

[fiery raptor]

exploded costume?

[viscid swift]

The fact you can rip their clothes up

[junior walrus]

How far out do they annouce banners or is pretty random?

[fiery raptor]

iirc it's unique to the senran ships

[barren tapir]

should be fine

[eternal moth]

Oh, right

[viscid swift]

about a week in advance max usually

[junior walrus]

that's hilarious. 400 cubes to max event right?

[viscid swift]

no, that's to pity a UR

[atomic abyss]

Most events don't have URs

[eternal moth]

Only URs have a pity; other ships don't

[viscid swift]

there's no other pity so you may need more on the rare occasion

[barren tapir]

you hope its 400 to max an event, but if you get unlucky

[atomic abyss]

You get about 4 new URs a year, and about 4 reruns of URs a year

[junior walrus]

I meant banners sorry, not events. misspoke.

[atomic abyss]

Banners only come with events

[barren tapir]

maybe more if the laffey mogador trend ends up continuing this december

[atomic abyss]

They don't just randomly spawn

[viscid swift]

with that said it's not too difficult to predict when an event will drop, what it will contain though is another matter entirely

[eternal moth]

Mogador was in July

[atomic abyss]

Mog was end may to early june

Vanny rerun was July

[barren tapir]

yeah, so they might continue the trend of winter + summer UR being double

we shall know this december

[viscid swift]

who knows at this point

[atomic abyss]

All I will say is

Given how generous they were with specialized core this month, I think we should expect the worse...

[storm heron]

at this point won't be surprised if they add a new rarity

[barren tapir]

[junior walrus]

from what i was told i can run this comp for a long ass time. Would y'all recommend to go ahead and start saving cubes for a good banner?

[sharp comet]

next ur is yk2 right

[viscid swift]

worst for some, profit for others

[barren tapir]

as long as it's pasta surely

[viscid swift]

next UR rerun yes

[atomic abyss]

New UR more like

[viscid swift]

next UR and next rerun, probably not

[storm heron]

I mean no matter what 2 UR in an event is surely better than just 1

[atomic abyss]

That would be ideal yes
Unless you intend to roll for collab

[eternal moth]

Who's the CV, Albion?

[atomic abyss]

It is

[barren tapir]

well, yes but actually no

if they make it a regular thing i'd hope we could get a spec core cap increase again by a bit lol

[junior walrus]

Ya i pulled her yesterday. Don't intend to invest too hard, but she works and does good damage on bosses atm.

[viscid swift]

you should invest in her she's quite good

[eternal moth]

I'd wait until you can get Enterprise, she'll last a lot longer

[junior walrus]

brother i got told by like 3 people she's "okay" unless you can retrofit loooool

[barren tapir]

pretty sure albion is good enough to invest even tho enty is better

[viscid swift]

you can't retrofit albion

[eternal moth]

She doesn't have a retrofit

[atomic abyss]

Most ships don't have retrofits*

[viscid swift]

also block whoever told you that

[junior walrus]

probably not remembering what was said, but yeah i was told she was just okay

[storm heron]

maybe reddit

[atomic abyss]

She is one of the better ones you can get

[viscid swift]

she's no Enterprise but she's no slouch either

[barren tapir]

everything is relative. "okay" can mean different things, like compared to full UR cv comp yeah she is just "okay" compared to other golds she is good afaik

[eternal moth]

So many people trash ships that aren't absolute top damage, it's pretty crazy

[junior walrus]

I looked at messages. basically said samething, wait till you get enterprise.

[viscid swift]

yeah don't

Albion is good enough to invest in right now

[atomic abyss]

You can always just use enterprise for the 2nd fleet

[junior walrus]

So should i not bulin her? just ride out as long as i can.

[barren tapir]

wait to get enterprise only to lose your mind every time lucky E doesnt proc

[atomic abyss]

No, bulin her

[viscid swift]

limit break her with bullins

[storm heron]

albion, with an shan and amagiCV as comparison

[barren tapir]

you will need more than 1 solid cv, albion is good enough to be worth it imo

[sharp comet]

brah who is using anshan in main

[junior walrus]

I love opinions from strangers because i have no idea who here is the most credible

[eternal moth]

I don't remember, does Albion have a decent barrage?

[barren tapir]

post the context man

B = can pull her weight

which is actually a very good praise that she is that in multiple endgame contexts

[junior walrus]

if barrage is the red missiles then yes, she fires like 10 of them or something.

[stark quiver]

If I’m a player with 6 UR bulins and just a lb 0 musashi , should I mlb her?

[eternal moth]

Then she may be better for mob fleet than Enterprise

[storm heron]

but the maker said I just need to screenshot multiple ships

[storm heron]

I would wait for tickets and next UR, unless you are into the other channel

[viscid swift]

the context for refference

think that or should be a for

[barren tapir]

also reminder its an endgame tier list

accordingly, if albion, a gold cvl is considered solid for endgame, she is going to likely be quite good for a new player who, surprisingly, lacks all the shiny URs

[rapid grail]

what even is this sheet at

[eternal moth]

6 bulins means it's going to be easy enough to get 2 more, with the event and another month of cores. Go ahead and MLB IMO

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YbPw3dM2eN6hr3YfVABIK9LVuCWnVZF0Zp2BGOZXc0/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[eternal moth]

If it was anyone but Musashi I'd say to wait

[storm heron]

they don't have any reason to mlb msashi tbh other than pvp since they are active in pvp lately

[eternal moth]

She's still one of the best ships in campaign

[austere shard]

I was about to ask thanks

[storm heron]

guess what's im not rly is on campaign

[stark quiver]

Yea , I got a friend who’s new playing the game rn, has those and only one other Ur ship

[storm heron]

oh then mlb musashi

[junior walrus]

From the information i've gathered I will be Limit breaking albion. Thank you.

[sharp comet]

lmfao this list gotta b bait

[viscid swift]

what

[sharp comet]

how is shinano a with ijn comp

[soft raft]

Have you forgotten about the part of her skill set where she gives herself a buff if she's with 2 other IJN ships

[eternal moth]

Because for most metas you want a slow

[atomic abyss]

A very substantial buff

[sharp comet]

? thats exactly why she should be s you doofus

this is with haku and/or amagi

[atomic abyss]

She's only good for heavy armoured metas

[viscid swift]

I can count the times Shinano has been meta for METAs and the times she hasn't

[atomic abyss]

Against med or light she loses quite a bit of damage lol

[viscid swift]

the latter outweighs the former

[atomic abyss]

And most metas have been med armour iirc

[viscid swift]

which thus far has only really been Arizona and Nagato where she'd be considered S

[atomic abyss]

Rodney sorta

[viscid swift]

Rodney is hella weird because the MvP that time was Unzen

[atomic abyss]

True
Amagi would be more valuable when rodM gets dossier then

[sharp comet]

how does that make any sense lmfao haku and amagi have the same offense stats

and haku is A in meta?

[atomic abyss]

They don't

Amagi is noticeably better lol

[sharp comet]

they dont have 5/5/6/5?

[languid reef]

when you're in opsi and you have the option to destroy the weather thingy, "siren control device", why would you ever choose to not do it immediately?

[soft raft]

Haku had a little something called Amagi CV Happen to her so

[atomic abyss]

Amagi optimal load out is 0/3/6 for heavy

[stone sluice]

Is the twin 410mm purple worth the 11+ or should I +13 the Daisen gun?

[atomic abyss]

3/0/6 for med

[storm heron]

they follow a logarithmic scaling

[atomic abyss]

Haku would use 0/4/5 for heavy

[viscid swift]

because they're a being buffed by Shinano and in Haku's case both

amagi also buffs all IJN torp damage which is not invaluable

[atomic abyss]

3/4/2 for others

[stark quiver]

ender what do these numbers mean?

[dusk maple]

Nothing

[atomic abyss]

Fighter/DB/TB

[stark quiver]

oh lol

[sharp comet]

how is haku A then if they have the exact same number spread

[atomic abyss]

They don't

[storm heron]

wait there is 6

[atomic abyss]

They literally fucking don't

[viscid swift]

you meaned compared to Amagi? powercreep among other things

[sharp comet]

they both have the same 5/5/6/5 ? r u dumb

[atomic abyss]

That's not how you compare

[subtle cave]

anyone have the gear that is recommended on Amagi CV?

[soft raft]

@sweet delta care to explain in detail to this guy?

[storm heron]

read the main page

[soft raft]

It varies depending on the content you're using her in

[sharp comet]

then whats the point of that and how do u base meta on it

[subtle cave]

how about for PVE

[sharp comet]

what makes amagi S and haku A with the same dmg

[storm heron]

this is why people stop making more detailed tierlist btw, it will be too complicatred to the point the general will just forget to read

[viscid swift]

Amagu buffing the shit out of IJN torp damage

[soft raft]

Where exactly in ""PvE"""?
W14? W15? OpSi? Pre W12? Etc etc
Also 99.99% of this game is PVE

[sharp comet]

nothin about this is complicated lmfao it's just inconsitent

[subtle cave]

im just using her for the event map rn

[atomic abyss]

Amagi has about 15-20% more damage iirc

[soft raft]

typical Fighter/TB/DB then ig

[viscid swift]

how?
Amagi's buffs are being factored into the ratings here

[atomic abyss]

Amagi buffing Haku and Nano would bring their damage to similar levels

The keyword if amagi buffs them

If amagi doesn't buff them they are noticeably behind

[sharp comet]

i screenshot (with IJN)

[atomic abyss]

The only CV that outright beats Amagi in DPS is Nakhi

[sharp comet]

dont talk if u dont even read what im presenting lmfao

[storm heron]

the damage in the "heavy dmg" is personal damage right?

[viscid swift]

yes

the damage rating are basically end screen numbers

[sweet delta]

I feel no need to explain to someone who thinks damage is all that matters, that's how we get shit like Vanguard worst UR BB

[viscid swift]

the content they're rated on is factoring the contributions of that ship like buffs to other ships

and as I said, Amagi buffs the shit out of Haku and Shinano's torps

not the other way around

[sharp comet]

then shinano wouldn't be at A with ijn

[viscid swift]

she's doing as much damage as them while buffing them

[wind hazel]

cheeky single handedly dishing out facts 🗣️

[subtle cave]

does this work for amagi cv?

[viscid swift]

yes, but it's probably not optimal for anything

[soft raft]

good enough for regular farming

[subtle cave]

alright then ill just leave it as this for now

[stark quiver]

how long should it usually take to get +4 la9 prints. with decent rng

[viscid swift]

uhhh 2-3 weeks?

[weary gust]

~~2 weeks ~~

[stark quiver]

i guess ima switch to gear focus for a while then
i wanna finish up my la9

[viscid swift]

yeah so would I

[junior walrus]

Using context clues/observation skills/in game knowledge if there is any. What is the best possible team composition only using units with above a triple DDD bra size?

[atomic abyss]

[weary gust]

#al-general

[stark quiver]

the fuck?

[atomic abyss]

Just to entertain it seriously for a second

It depends on literally what content we're talking about

[viscid swift]

what ships would actually qualify for that

[storm heron]

idk what their sizes are so

[soft raft]

is that even a real size?

[junior walrus]

I will delete the message if I should not have posted that

[atomic abyss]

As silly as the question is

We could probably provide you an answer (assuming there is one) if we actually knew which ships qualify for that

[viscid swift]

I don't think any would

[storm heron]

mogador?

[atomic abyss]

Cheeky, he means DDD cup size

Not DD as in destroyers

[soft raft]

[storm heron]

[stark quiver]

horrible day to understand english

[atomic abyss]

It is

[wind hazel]

send that guy the boob tier list

[viscid swift]

haha, no

[sharp socket]

what is gph cooking this time

[viscid swift]

I have no idea

[atomic abyss]

If I have to give another serious answer

[stark quiver]

[atomic abyss]

I think it wouldn't be very good because most of the AA boats lack any large assets

[storm heron]

i mean you can't have kaza and eldridge...

[viscid swift]

nor does Unicorn

[junior walrus]

Alright well y’all have fun I’ll be uninstalling

[atomic abyss]

Lol, lmao even

[storm heron]

[wind hazel]

guy lasted 1 day o7

[junior walrus]

Joking

[storm heron]

[atomic abyss]

I mean if you don't intend to push into "end game AL" you could definitely get away with it in game

[eternal moth]

I'm reading this graphic Sushi made, and I'm still completely lost.

[viscid swift]

like if you want a "serious" answer go to the wiki, tell us what ships qualify and how far you wanna get and then we can talk

[junior walrus]

But the last gacha I played like this was idle huntress(TRASH) and there was in a lot of cases a direct correlation to power scaling

[storm heron]

huh direct correlation is crazy

[viscid swift]

that's not how it works in AL, at all

[junior walrus]

Yeah I noticed a lot

[quartz jungle]

Cheshire and Guam counts I believe

[atomic abyss]

If anything, chest size depends on what hull type they are

[storm heron]

mogador

[wind hazel]

[viscid swift]

let's not get into that rabbit hole

[atomic abyss]

...Alaska?

[eternal moth]

Mogador. QE

[atomic abyss]

You mean Guam

[soft raft]

bro meant Guam yee

[quartz jungle]

Yeah oops, keep making that mistake

[storm heron]

Ah yes alaska and iowa -> guam laffii

[quartz jungle]

I'll just say as an IRL ship NJ/Laffey II is memorable, Guam is just a ship that existed

[junior walrus]

Let’s say beat basic campaign 3 star

[viscid swift]

up to what chapter?

[junior walrus]

What’s last chapter

[storm heron]

Klaudia Volga might work

[viscid swift]

and again, what ships would qualify because if it isn't obvious none of us are that cultured

[junior walrus]

Not including hard or that W Shit y’all were talking about

[eternal moth]

You aren't going to be able to use the same fleet for every chapter

[viscid swift]

probably until Chapter 12 then, out of 15

[quartz jungle]

I think he means up to chapter 12 yeah

[atomic abyss]

^

[eternal moth]

You can use the same fleet for most chapters, but after a certain point you really need to tailor

[atomic abyss]

So chapter 12 yeah

[dreamy cairn]

Should i max limit break Bismarck Zwei or Alsace first?

[sweet delta]

most chapters are easy with over leveling

[quartz jungle]

Most ships at that point could work yeah

[sweet delta]

Screenshot all of your rainbow ships

[atomic abyss]

Actually do that yeah

[viscid swift]

ok

[junior walrus]

I really thought this was a quick end easy question loool

[dreamy cairn]

Forgive my lack of MLB I take breaks often bc of work

[storm heron]

if only there's a wiki about the numbers then yeah, unfortunately the closest we've got is that one reddit post

[sharp socket]

you guys have to make assumptions more often, i think he just wants big bust ships for up to w12

[soft raft]

The Alaskas are at least noteworthy that they were the only CBs that actually existed while all the other ones were just blueprint designs but that's a discussion for #history

[sweet delta]

Biszwei

[weary gust]

Any game that is a real game isn't going to have a quick and easy answer as to "what's best for everything".

[viscid swift]

like how big is big enough, I'm not that creative/imaginitive

[storm heron]

how big is even DDD

[sharp socket]

alternatively you can also look at your own dock and figure out how big is big enough for yourself

[eternal moth]

Finish YT2, then BZ IMO

[viscid swift]

I do not know cup sizes if it wasn't obvious

[junior walrus]

False I’ve used big sword in every souls game and can’t be convinced there’s a better build

[dreamy cairn]

I planned on doing YT2 first bc she is my light armor killer in OP si and i am almost done with her

[eternal moth]

DDD isn't even a real cup size, so yeah...

[junior walrus]

It is

[storm heron]

maybe DDD is betweeen DD and DE? Anyways don't we have better things to discuss

[quartz jungle]

It's right before F IIRC

[eternal moth]

Kashino is something like 48J

[wind hazel]

this is getting out of hand real quick

[weary gust]

I sincerely hate that I seem to have to post this.
"A DDD cup size is the same as a US F cup size. However, in the UK, a DDD/F cup size is an E. "

[storm heron]

like I know some people here asking are not guys

[atomic abyss]

Yeah what ships falls under what cup size would not be a discussion for here anymore

[sharp socket]

well the CN bust size tier list starts at L

[pulsar drum]

Is there any ability to get the Triple 203 SKC mats for Hindenburg besides praying to RNGsus they drop from research?

[viscid swift]

nope

[junior walrus]

We can change topic im sorry I started this

[atomic abyss]

Focus on gear researches
Namely rigging analysis
Besides that good luck

[viscid swift]

it should be in the prototype shop in late January though

[pulsar drum]

Damn. Oh well, thanks. And here is hoping it is

[sweet delta]

The shop won't sell enough for two guns

[storm heron]

two guns?

[atomic abyss]

1 drake 1 Hinden

[pulsar drum]

I'm sure it will reset monthly, so get 2 eventually

[sweet delta]

I'm sure it will

[viscid swift]

there won't

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't

[viscid swift]

I would have a lot more Plymouth Guns and Tenrais if it did

[atomic abyss]

None of the rainbow gear in proto core get refilled

[pulsar drum]

Oh, you're right. I had to buy a couple Tenrai and that was months ago and it's still missing those few

But it sells 50. So it's at least 1 "free" full gun

[eternal moth]

Yes, the shop sells one full piece of gear

[storm heron]

that makes me realize I should be doing hindenburger instead of taking Qs all the time

[obsidian ivy]

What torps should agir be using

[weary gust]

How does that answer the question.

[obsidian ivy]

???

[viscid swift]

how does that help at all

[stark quiver]

agir S torp

[atomic abyss]

Fybre what are you smoking

[viscid swift]

she's okay

[storm heron]

OH WAIT SORRY

[viscid swift]

have you actually read the question?

[weary gust]

That literally does not help at all

[stark quiver]

should be fine with 533 guad

[atomic abyss]

Just use the same old quad mags

[viscid swift]

there it is

[eternal moth]

Doesn't Agir normally use triple mag?

[atomic abyss]

Fybre please

[viscid swift]

honestley I've given up using her slow for now

[atomic abyss]

Any other torps Agir attempts to use is used in an attempt to sync her slow

[stark quiver]

i guess to use slow, but you prolly have a dedicated slow
and cba to time it

[weary gust]

Agir's torps don't really matter, it's too hard to time her torps to make the slow useful and even if you do they can still miss and don't help that much.

[viscid swift]

free SR BB? and for what

[storm heron]

use a torp that launches at around 19s, like the purple

[eternal moth]

Good point, I guess I'll just start giving her quad mags then

[storm heron]

otherwise probably does not matter

[atomic abyss]

Waka is a DD not BB

[viscid swift]

DD you mean and I wouldn't really invest in either unless you had everything else ready and just needed 2 vanguards

[storm heron]

for some reason I readd that question as "Is agir top, should agir be using"

[spice phoenix]

should i purchase the pr season 1 gear prints from the protocore shop? (i already got my 1 tenrai and currently have 3 champy guns) if so, what gear should i convert it to?

[atomic abyss]

No reason to get season 1 gear

[viscid swift]

do you need any of the PR1 gear prints?

[atomic abyss]

Pretty sure all the season 1 gear is in gear lab anyways

[viscid swift]

it is

[storm heron]

do they still recommend buying 3 champys instead of flandres mixing?

[viscid swift]

Wakastuki is fine though I don't know what you have

[atomic abyss]

You'll need to do PR6 at some point
It's better to buy champy instead

[viscid swift]

honestley these days I'm coming more around to the idea of 2 Champaign Guns and 1 Flandre gun

[atomic abyss]

PR3 BP can be converted to sextuple in worse case anyways

[viscid swift]

if nothing else for speed

[storm heron]

checked botspam and I see champys

[viscid swift]

opinions can and do change overtime

[bold stream]

Hello all, where can I can farm the purple tool box aside from 3-4? My Musashi is eating a lot of dmg from sirens

[spice phoenix]

what am i to do with my leftover proto cores? my shop looks like this:

[storm heron]

the thing is, you shouldn't be able to get 2 champys in 2 months

[quartz jungle]

Flandre gun is better especially for people who haven't max out BB rld yet

[atomic abyss]

You don't farm gear from maps
You open tech boxes for them

[weary gust]

You should not use a toolbox on Musashi. IF she's taking that much damage, your fleet comp/vanguard is the issue.

[viscid swift]

save for the Hindenburg Gun or save for another 457 or a Drake gun

[bold stream]

Yea, they are all dead and they are the issue

[weary gust]

So yeah. Youy have no healer and your vanguard is dead.

[viscid swift]

go and heal in a port then

[weary gust]

Also fleet comp is the issue there

[viscid swift]

you don't lose progress

[bold stream]

I only have unicorn as heal. She is on the other fleet with sara...

[storm heron]

you use unicorn in your fleet

[spice phoenix]

so this from pr 6?

[storm heron]

that is felix's

[viscid swift]

Hindenburg Gun is the UR CA gun

[eternal moth]

Why aren't you using your mob fleet to kill everything?

[storm heron]

hindenburg gun is not there yet

[spice phoenix]

thanks

[bold stream]

So spam the other fleet here?

[eternal moth]

The fleet with Unicorn would be pretty much the only fleet you'll use for most content

The others are set up to kill the red treasure chest zones

[bold stream]

So just go back to port remake to 1 fleet?

Musashi flag uni, sara then the best vanguard?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[eternal moth]

Is Musashi max limit broken?

[bold stream]

She is

[eternal moth]

Then yeah, that's a great comp

[viscid swift]

sounds jank

for one, you'd be looking to build a boss fleet so no need for another healer

[bold stream]

Hutten is lb1. Luck to get her copy. Still use her because she drops mobs easy

[viscid swift]

you also have 4 BBs competeing for the flagship position

and Eugen is a waste of bullins

[storm heron]

why uni in boss fleet

[eternal moth]

If Uni's in it it's not a boss fleet

[viscid swift]

yeah, and I'm saying all 4 want the flagship position

start looking at other options

[bold stream]

I dont lose progress?

[eternal moth]

Use a different carrier than Unicorn, and stick Uni in the mob fleet

[storm heron]

just walk randomly

[eternal moth]

No you don't

[storm heron]

to complete the meowficcer

[eternal moth]

Drop Shouhou, she's pretty much useless

[storm heron]

and then you leave after then

[viscid swift]

you will lose the new officer drop

[bold stream]

Okay! So walk around. Thank you!

[eternal moth]

Not really. If you have medals, though, you might be able to get Enterprise

[soft raft]

that's medal not guild

[eternal moth]

I know

[storm heron]

cc is good

[eternal moth]

Chang Chun

[soft raft]

Unicorn, Helena, Pennsylvania, and Portland if you havent already

and Unicorn is a straight upgrade to Shouhou, esp after Uni got her retro

[storm heron]

first this though

[eternal moth]

Chang Chun is questionable, though, because getting her retro item means you aren't getting a bulin

[storm heron]

half a bulin

[eternal moth]

Yeah, but it's still slowing down MLB of a UR

[undone plover]

if this is for a second fleet, just post your dock @ornate narwhal

[bold stream]

Hello all. Is this okay? I can replace z23 with hipper to take advantage of liepzig buff?

[soft raft]

more like yeet Lepzig completely for Helena

Hipper is terrible and Lepzig wont help her any better

[bold stream]

But she is lv 30

[soft raft]

then raise her lvls then
you should've been raising her in the first place anyways

[undone plover]

not sure what u mean low level units
why not just run 1 fleet till chapter 9 like usual?

[viscid swift]

you are in no position to be doing a 2nd fleet

[storm heron]

bro's doing alt before w15. Nvm It's fair considering tlr is around the corner

[undone plover]

oh
honestly not worth
imo just run 2:1 fleet and save oil

hood unicorn portland till u run into trouble

put musashi in 2nd fleet so her x-fleet helps
dont use her to fight anything

save xp books and u can kickstart 2nd fleet faster

[eternal moth]

It's never too late, it just means you mean to spend more time levelign them

[bold stream]

I will get there.. hopefully soon
I did sidetracked by roon.. so I have been running kms vanguards atm with the exception of portland because of the quest.

[viscid swift]

have you bought the ones from the black friday shop yet

[eternal moth]

That's gonna depend on who you have.

[viscid swift]

other than Musashu not really

[undone plover]

I wanna say one fleet with musashi and unicorn to chapter 12
idk how viable that is tho

[eternal moth]

It'll probably do pretty well honestly.

[undone plover]

raising 2nd fleet in chapter 12 is much more efficient than chapter 9 or 10

[zealous cave]

what are the chances of this happening??? i've never had 5 straight dr face missions of the same ship

6 if you count the next one (also haku)

[atomic abyss]

Possible cos Musashi

[eternal moth]

RNG is RNG

[atomic abyss]

Low, but consider yourself lucky

[eternal moth]

Musashi

[undone plover]

honestly ditch penny and use hood musashi and unicorn
should reach ch12 with some effort (maybe not even much)

[eternal moth]

Musashi can be off flag

She wants flag, but she doesn't need it. It's only a small buff for her

Either

More likely she'll be used for mob IIRC

[junior walrus]

Is this bait for my precious cubes?

[undone plover]

eventually u do hood mob and musashi boss
but for now I am thinking u ignore 2nd fleet to rush chapter 12

there is another event day after tomorrow anyway so u will farm that most likely
dw about 2nd fleet for now

[eternal moth]

Considering the number of cubes you probably have, yes.

Those researches are really good, but you need at least like 800 cubes in the bank to make them worthwhile

Musashi can do whatever she feels like

[undone plover]

no
all the UR BB can do everything
musashi is used in mobbing later on because in chapter 15 mobbing is the harder part

[eternal moth]

She's probably still the single best ship for campaign, aside from Unicorn

[undone plover]

in campaign u mostly want 1 BB mob and 1 BB Boss

so hood mob and musashi boss later on is enough BB
u can raise nelson if u dont get another good BB but that is not the priority right now since u already invested in hood and nelson needs a lot of resources

[eternal moth]

It's not terrible, but the pennant isn't why you run Nelson

[undone plover]

if u mean the aux gear yeah it is decent but nothing u cant do without
your hood with augment is very similar to nelson level already

[bold stream]

Only 2 BBs? Since I have bismark lv100 and musashi thats good enough? I have to focus on cv/cvls?

[soft raft]

Replace Bismarck with Hood then you're good for the time being

[eternal moth]

Is that Bismarck or Bismarck Zwei?

[bold stream]

I dont have hood

Bismark?

[stark quiver]

whats the research prio for gear prio

[atomic abyss]

Regular Bismarck

Garbage but he didn't have much better at the time and alr had her mlb

[undone plover]

well when u get to chapter 12 u want to start working on shipyard and operation siren so u might want to raise more BBs
I cant really say if u should focus on CV right now without more info

but like the others said bismarck is not the best BB anyway so u will replace her later on

[eternal moth]

OG Bismarck isn't that great, so getting a better battleship would be helpful for you.

You could go for Izumo or Monarch in PR1 once you get there, both of those would be much better.

[eternal moth]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[eternal moth]

Nice, finally got the prints for my first LA-9

[undone plover]

Q-UL> D-UL > Q4h > Q2h > Q1h > E2h (purple) > G4h > G1.5h > shortest for refresh/ G2.5h

[eternal moth]

I don't remember, what's the use case for La-9?

[atomic abyss]

Best rocket for heavy and med

[eternal moth]

Wow that's a slow fighter

[soft raft]

BF-109G but more pog

[atomic abyss]

2nd best for light

[eternal moth]

Thanks

[bold stream]

Hello, this are all my main fleet atm. I am planning to get enterprise on the newplayer reward.. because I do not have much useful CV

[eternal moth]

You have Sara and Uni, with Musashi and Bismarck that's a decent start

[dusk thunder]

Commissions borked. Send help.

[barren tapir]

try relog

[undone plover]

click the slots and put one level 30 ship at least then hit recommend for the rest

[eternal moth]

FInish Unicorn's retro, then do Saratoga's, and you'll be good. Musashi/Uni/Sara is pretty dang strong for the majority of the game.

[eternal moth]

All of your open ships are probably in hard modes somewhere

[bold stream]

So no problem on my mains for now?

[dusk thunder]

Nah it let me slot them. Then I clicked confirm and they all vanished. I cant even start another commission it just says invalid input lol.

[barren tapir]

1/4th a bulin for one of the better vg

the bigger issue with chang chun is the 1600 core data required to make her great (s4g and missile)

[eternal moth]

Oh then yeah, just relog

[undone plover]

it looks like it started but yeah like they said relog

[eternal moth]

Logging out and then back in clears the vast majority of issues in the game

[undone plover]

depending which chapter u are at maybe u dont need 2nd fleet yet
where are u in campaign?

[dusk thunder]

Oh yeah that fixed it. It just made me chuckle that it started an "empty" commission

[haughty dust]

should I swap a level 120 Colorado out with another character or try and get her to level 125?

[atomic abyss]

Swap

[haughty dust]

By the way, she’s retrofitted

[atomic abyss]

Not worth to 125 her

[barren tapir]

only 125 meta ships you use in endgame content

[bold stream]

I am lv 65 and at chapter 8 atm. I pause pushing for the event spam.

[haughty dust]

OK, I may have some images to see if you have anyone suggest to swap her out with give me a few

[barren tapir]

(and waifus imo but do so at your own risk obviously)

[eternal moth]

Starting a second fleet too early can actually be more of a mistake than starting one too late. It means you're missing a pretty hefty chunk of XP on your best ships, and you have to spread out your gear quite a bit.

[barren tapir]

use collab to level 2nd fleet, itll be easy maps with low oilcap

[undone plover]

if u can do D1-D3 in event then do that for now
can do 2 fleet in D map
I would replace UvH unless u have a UR bulin coming soon

[bold stream]

I think i screwed my vanguard too much. I thought for sure that reload skill is very powerful which is why I built konig sisters and leip. Couple with roon vanguard dmg requirement.

Now my helena is low level

[haughty dust]

since now I have two slots to fill in the XP grind fleets. Any thoughts of which of these two I can replace both Colorado and Vanguard with?

[barren tapir]

well at least you get a headstart on kms tech but oof

[bold stream]

I mean super low level that cannot be used

[barren tapir]

exp books?

[bold stream]

40 something

[haughty dust]

Who are you asking about XP books?

[barren tapir]

you can prolly catch helena up a little with those...

[eternal moth]

Since she's 119, may as well finish Nelson

[bold stream]

Not enough and can not get enough sadly

[barren tapir]

depending on where you're sending her, it can be enough to keep her alive so she can leech exp

[haughty dust]

Based on those characters currently any thoughts on who to replace the previous two characters with because I’m not sure who to go with next who could still survive XP grind. in regards to Nelson should she be 120 or 125?

[eternal moth]

I'd just start leveling the highest-level characters you have

120, get your fleet tech

[haughty dust]

what about all the 120s I have any of them should go past 120 at some point or not?

[viscid swift]

the ones with good tech anyway

[barren tapir]

if you have to ask, just keep everyone on 120 imo

[viscid swift]

like not Victorious

[haughty dust]

Like who?

[eternal moth]

Only if you start making fleets for end game with them

[barren tapir]

but URs like endgame ships can go 125 (except warspite)

[haughty dust]

I will have to eventually I haven’t got all of 13 to safe yet and I haven’t started on 14

[bold stream]

There is a lv requirment on the even which means the gap between her and the other are growing.

[eternal moth]

Kazagumo, Aurora, tanks, those are the vanguards I'd worry about getting to 125

[bold stream]

I think I need to buy all of these. Are they priced fair?

[undone plover]

all these are good

[barren tapir]

ah yeah...maybe just shove her in the dorm for now? also put her in your exercise fleet and get some free exp that way

[junior walrus]

I’m going through the beginner guides and I see a lot of “don’t spend gems on this”, but as f2p what should I spend gems on?

[barren tapir]

do /gems in #bot-spam

[sinful escarp]

3 dorm slots+2nd floor, rest is for dock slots

[barren tapir]

but yeah that as a tldr ^

[bold stream]

Thats what I am doing rn. Is the exp books on the black friday shop priced okay to buy?

[eternal moth]

This is a pretty good way to go about it

[viscid swift]

don't sleep on FP or AVI tech either

[undone plover]

I am not but we usually recc rld and acc first

[barren tapir]

if you have a bunch of spare coins sure, idk the efficiency or anything

[undone plover]

unless that has changed

[junior walrus]

So expand the first floor to max with dorm tokens, then I can use gems to add slots and 2nd floor?

[eternal moth]

No, RLD is the top, followed by hit

[viscid swift]

no but like I wouldn't prioritize like a level 85 hosho over a 119 Nelson

[barren tapir]

isn't hit higher prio for bb

[viscid swift]

and so forth

[undone plover]

yeah good point

[atomic abyss]

...I feel like this guy is new enough that the prio shd be raising good ships, not tech

[undone plover]

I prefer rld tbh
hit might be better but having enough rld for 4 salvo and in CV case enough RLD for helena sync is a nice luxury

[viscid swift]

well to be honest, what's good enough to be considered anything other than tech there

[undone plover]

I think druid has been raising tech ships for a while now

unless u meant some1 else ender

[barren tapir]

btw this shop is here until dec 4 iirc, don't rush if you are short on coins right now.

[bold stream]

Thanks!

[uneven oyster]

Does exp past lvl 125 count for combat data collection

[viscid swift]

yes

[uneven oyster]

Thank 🙂

[haughty dust]

oh btw my Ticonderoga is at level 117. Should I get her to at least 120 or 125. I just noticed that. She was in a placeholder fleet atm

Also while Kearsarge still needs to be limit broken she is at 101

[eternal moth]

How many La-9 should I try to get before switching to something else? I have at least 3 Tenrai and quad 155s already

[viscid swift]

I'm aiming for at least 3

[wind hazel]

120 is fine

[eternal moth]

I wouldn't worry about Kear for now, but go ahead and get your high-level ships to 120. The fleet tech and tech points alone are worth it

[undone plover]

yeah nelson and monarch are also good to 120
do them first then do the ones I circled

[haughty dust]

btw wondering if for Nelson I should use xp books. She is incredibly close to 120. 151384 of 205000. If not that is fine just wanted to ask

[undone plover]

reserve books for low lvl ships imo

and subs

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that's what I do. Get them to around 70, then into the dorm

[haughty dust]

so what Nelson and Monarch and then Ticonderoga and someone else perhaps after they are at 120?

[undone plover]

nelson monarch ticonderoga then the ones i circled
U have other good ships there but do these for now then come back to ask

[eternal moth]

You're at the point where you just start leveling random ships for fleet tech

[haughty dust]

ok well working on Amagi rn as well so Ticonderoga will be in the next batch. Amagi is only 1 star away from MLB

[eternal moth]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ This might help since you can choose the stat you want, and it'll tell you what ships give that stat

[haughty dust]

I have that site bookmarked but so far just keeping track of what level my characters are. I still do not fully understand how to read that site unless I have a notepad and write down some notes.

[undone plover]

just select BB and CV then ACC/RLD/FP/AVI
and it gives u the list of ships u want to level

like this

[uncut ocean]

relax

[wind hazel]

no

[storm heron]

is there a use case of brest outside campaign?

[undone plover]

i think there was a brief period of cooking with brest instead of agir for alsace buff in BB comps but I think nothing came of it
she is still a decent tank in opsi and I reckon elsewhere

[storm heron]

I was trying to see whether I need the pr5 and dr5 bps from musashi event or just save up for collab, I guess there is very little chance brest fsV is going to be better than alternatives

[undone plover]

those DR prints can be used for agir FS5 later on as well if it happens
but I would say low prio to get em

[wind hazel]

collab is 2 weeks, plenty of time to grind, oil won't be issue

[storm heron]

ah 2 weeks

basically free bps with no downsides, time to grind d3

[slate siren]

best stage to farm gold?

[storm heron]

12-4

[slate siren]

i ain't past 10 yet

[storm heron]

do you have musashi?

[slate siren]

no lol

[storm heron]

[slate siren]

700 cubes and 0 gold

[storm heron]

what's the highest event stage you can do?

[wind hazel]

just farm highest you can go

[slate siren]

i cleared d3

[misty burrow]

is the event ending in 3 hours or is there another full day?

[wind hazel]

another full day

[storm heron]

so it's either pushing with overhead oil or farming event stage...

[misty burrow]

thankyou

[slate siren]

i got plenty of oil

[eternal moth]

Hey Ender, any idea why the last few #game-news posts don't have the pics attached?

[storm heron]

might want to push to 12-4 to farm coins for musashi first, then decide if you want to spend more oil on the event stages to grab the stuff from the shop

[storm heron]

they got Yami'ed

[atomic abyss]

No idea tbh
They post normally when publish is used

[barren tapir]

i'd just farm d3 personally

it takes quite a lot of oil to push stages and it's also tedious babysitting work too, idk if they have the free time for it

babysitting cos you gotta clicky clicky every minute

since time is a concern i would just do d3 because pushing campaign takes more time

[tropic tusk]

fdg or uvh is better?

i keep messing them up

[eternal moth]

It really depends on what you're doing. UvH might be slightly better, but I think FdG is better at mobbing

Those two are close enough that they're mostly interchangeable except in ccertain fights

[dusky cloak]

when do these cringe trp thresholds become not a problem. Is there some easy work around im missing? My highest trp ships dont even come close to this stat but i cleared the last stage with relative ease.

[eternal moth]

You're using ships with really bad torps, and neither of your tanks use them at all

[sweet delta]

Not using shit like Phoenix might help

[vale spindle]

Easiest way is to use more shuos with a torpedo slot

Pretty sure pheonix chappy and portland don't have one at all

[eternal moth]

Shimakaze at 125, for example, can give over half the requirement herself

And Sandy's torp stat is only like 150 or something, right?

[sweet delta]

Chapter 12 hard has torp requirements

[eternal moth]

Those fleets are so scuffed in general.

[dusky cloak]

were you not typing to me earlier?

[eternal moth]

Yes, and I remember people saying not to use Nevada and Arizona

I love that Waka is around half of your total torp by herself.

[dusky cloak]

My stats screen says waka is only giving 150, laffey is carrying with like 250

[storm heron]

cus waka level 70

[eternal moth]

Is she not even fully enhanced or limit broken?

Because she starts at 75, and should be 370 at 100. I figured at 70 she'd be close to 300

[dusky cloak]

waka I just got yesterday, so she is only 70 after farming. laffey is max LB

[eternal moth]

Stop using ships that aren't MLB

[storm heron]

👍

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Hard_Mode_Req_Help.jpeg

[fickle parcel]

Is maint tonight or tmr night?

[eternal moth]

tomrrow

[fickle parcel]

tyty!

[heady siren]

What does "defeat escorting ships" in a stage condition mean? Is it defeating the ships that the boss spawns?

[stark quiver]

defeat all the mobs before boss

[soft raft]

Any enemy node on the map that is not the boss node

[junior walrus]

Why is this at 50% if I 3 star it? I did everything on first run

[stark quiver]

thats different, you gotta clear stage 2 times
requires minimal math

[heady siren]

Means if one stage got less ships than the required value, that stage has to be cleared more than once?

[soft raft]

100% clear and 3* are separate things

You have to 100% clear to progress to the next stage, and 3* gives you bonus goodies

[heady siren]

Cause I have cleared a stage one time but no 3 stars.

[soft raft]

Yeah most of the time (namely in mid-late campaign and iirc some hard mals) there's not gonna be enough enemies on the map to 3* in a single run

But I honestly only really about 3* after I 100% clear it

[viscid swift]

the number of clears needed for 100% is predetermined

you can't speed it up by 3 starring before 100%

[junior walrus]

I figured I'd have to rerun it, but I was just wondering what the issue was since i did every combat available.

[viscid swift]

100% is just beating the boss to clear the stage x number of times

[leaden garden]

How do i collect T2 EXP Data Pack so far the academy has only been producing T1 EXP Data Pack

oh.. i thought academy can produce it since the description of the T2 Data Pack says so

[stark quiver]

idk why it says that

[mellow cape]

When people say Plymouth gun, which one are they referring to

[stark quiver]

pr5 quad 152

[mellow cape]

Oohhhhhh ty

[junior walrus]

beginners guide doesnt say much about crystal fragments which im not even sure where i got them, but i have 88. Shuld i holdonto them or is there a specific META unit i should buy?

[stark quiver]

not rly for now

[junior walrus]

just sit on them and wait?

[stark quiver]

yea

[junior walrus]

Fair enough

also how good is San diego because i was looking at stuff and saw she's in "Tier EX" lol

[stark quiver]

shes good, expensive but good

[junior walrus]

yeah im looking at it now. She's only tier EX with augment and retrofit and it's on specific stages

[stark quiver]

yea, basically a AA carry for endgame campaign with good dps

[neon finch]

Nevada is fine ig cause just a basic BB (ofc no comparable to urs but still okay?)

[stark quiver]

blue bb is not it

[neon finch]

still gets pass 12 easily?

like 12-4 is not hard? just 13 have some aa issue

[sweet delta]

yes everything gets past 12

[fiery pelican]

Which one better, lvl opsi ships or get exp for admiral nak whoever that is?

[stark quiver]

whatever u need first

[sweet delta]

lvl opsi ships in oil capped maps

[stark quiver]

w12 is a farming haven for shitty ships

[neon finch]

i believe white ships can pass 12?

[fiery pelican]

12-4 or event? where I can find exp table for maps? I'm at 15k points purchased the gun too

[atomic abyss]

Event maps D3 have the exp of around 10-3

[neon finch]

event also ez(excluding ex)

[sweet delta]

12-4 gives way more exp per oil than event maps, but you have to farm event maps because t hey're event maps

[neon finch]

but 410

[fluid brook]

#gameplay-help message

[atomic abyss]

The triple 410 isn't even her best AP gun anymore

[sweet delta]

15k points is pretty low you should probably farm more

[fluid brook]

Get to 30k, for the UR Bulin

[neon finch]

but still Y not + the pt rewards

[fiery pelican]

i can get 2 bullins?

[fluid brook]

Only one from event milestones

[fiery pelican]

15k for bullin on rerun

[neon finch]

bullin still worthy

[fiery pelican]

not lying

[fluid brook]

I am not doubting

[sweet delta]

there are still shop things like oils, coins, chips, arrays, and maybe gold cat boxes

[fiery pelican]

it's pain in the ass to match these requirement, cant fit ships i want to lvl

[neon finch]

just throw some dusted ship in dock on there and get some free blueprints ig

[primal silo]

today is the last day for sushi rerun event, right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[primal silo]

Ok, thanks
gonna use all the tickets

[fiery raptor]

indomptable is perma in light now?

is wiki build pool up to date? to see which event ships are now in perma

[atomic abyss]

Yes she is in light now, wiki pool shd be updated

[fiery raptor]

what was the latest event added to warchive?

aquila?

[atomic abyss]

Yeah shd be

[tame jungle]

Albion janus manchester right?

[sweet delta]

they perma but not archive

[tame jungle]

Ohh

My bad

[fiery raptor]

no worries helps me get context

i have a bunch of purple dupes and if i know they're in perma i'm fine with purging

[tame jungle]

If they’re on the permapool wiki page it should be updated

[primal silo]

indomptable in light perma, so joffre is in special perma now?

[clever lance]

How do I get supplies to craft the purple Kai gun for agir

[sweet delta]

uh what

idk what that gun is but anyways gear lab materials come from operation siren

[clever lance]

Twin Kai 410mm

[sweet delta]

that's for musashi not aegir

[clever lance]

Sorry. That’s what I meant

[atomic abyss]

Operation siren as said

[clever lance]

Is there a way to target the supplies

Or do I just clear as many stages as I can and pray

[inner delta]

clear as much and pray

[sweet delta]

you don't need to target purple materials

[neon finch]

will she ever perma?

[atomic abyss]

She is perma

[sweet delta]

already is

[atomic abyss]

She has been perma for like 1, 2? months already

[neon finch]

oh

didnt see her on the cover(srry)

[fiery raptor]

if you can kill arbiter she drops selectable mats but just running regular opsi should be enough for 410 purple, i'd reserve the selectable gold mats for UR equipment when needed

[storm heron]

gn gph

[primal silo]

specialized core from black friday shop counts towards the cap?

*monthly cap

[inner delta]

no

[primal silo]

should I buy things in the coin event shop?
I'm thinking about the t3 skill and plates

[wind hazel]

if you got coin sure

[ornate scarab]

I finally finished 15-3 so how does 15-4 somehow feel so much harder

[atomic abyss]

Because there's 3 bosses

Your level disadvantage is greater

[ornate scarab]

But even the first one is harder, 15-3 first boss has 50 health bars 15-4 first boss has 100

[wind hazel]

last stage of campaign is harder than previous stage, that's natural

[ornate scarab]

Gotta go back to the drawing board then to figure out what to do

[wind hazel]

just kill them harder

[ornate scarab]

I’m tryin

[atomic abyss]

Take ye time
Don't stress yourself out too much

[sweet delta]

Bars of HP does not mean anything , the devs could put a boss with 100 bars but only 100 health if they wanted

[fiery raptor]

is cheshire>drake offtanking boss in 15-4? just wondering if i should give her the drek gun if she's the better choice

[atomic abyss]

Drake is a fair bit tankier

Based on mebot calcs, 117% vs 109%

With a slightly larger SD for Chesh too

[fiery raptor]

this includes the air hell context? also what is SD, the deviation?

i guess it is

[atomic abyss]

SD is the deviation yes

To be exact mebot calcs for 3SD

[atomic abyss]

Air hell context shd put slightly more on chesh

Tho again, this comparison is only really fair if you already have sufficient AA

Drake's higher damage and chonkiness may not be worth sacrificing AA for

[fiery raptor]

was thinking i'd be bringing someone else or chesh anyway but as the aa support

like drake eldridge chesh

just that i means i gotta make another drek gun

[atomic abyss]

That sounds concerningly little

Missed on Guam/laff?

[fiery raptor]

ah no this is on safe guam and laff was in the clearing fleet

just running randos farming for houston ii dupes for limit breaking

[atomic abyss]

Ah naruhodo

[fiery raptor]

i get tired of farming with the same ships all the time and want to see different faces involved

[atomic abyss]

Yeah eld shd help a lot

[desert tapir]

Who are the other carriers with a fighter fighter Torpedo Bomber mix like Indomitable?
I could have sworn there was at least one more.

[fiery raptor]

illustrious, illustrious muse, implacable

[desert tapir]

Thank you

[atomic abyss]

Langley was fighter fighter DB

[sweet delta]

Centaur Albion nakhimov

[atomic abyss]

Theseus as well?

[desert tapir]

Aquila does at MLB

[sweet delta]

In other news, Chen hai with 2 la9 does about 4/5 damage of illustrious muse with 2 la9 on medium

[fiery raptor]

btw does the stat bonus for 100 aff, also affect the avi stat when them fight/fight/torp cv are placed in support?

[desert tapir]

la9?

[tame jungle]

PR7 UR plane

[fiery raptor]

vii ur fighter

[desert tapir]

Thank you.

[neon finch]

le terrible vs le triomphant?

need (boss DD)

[fiery raptor]

does it have to be them?

[neon finch]

just wondering

[atomic abyss]

I believe terrible was unironically better

[neon finch]

for fun ofc

[sweet delta]

Is mogador, laudacieux, or lindomp an option?

[fiery raptor]

le terrible is a decent mobber, triomphant's gimmick is harder to live with

[atomic abyss]

L'auda is pretty strong yeah

Le trio is a worse le Malin

[fiery raptor]

le malin muse is good too

[sweet delta]

But augment!

[atomic abyss]

It hurts me to say this as someone who likes Le trio...

But yes I do have to emphasise that l'auda is kinda nutty

[neon finch]

watercolorish artstyle kinda good

[sweet delta]

Le Mars would be very good too in a full French vg

Or in a to love ru vg?

[neon finch]

also, does boss feet need dd at all or i can just cl ca cb it

[fiery raptor]

what audacieux do? i haven't got around to sortieing her yet, reserved for bayard grind. does she puke barrages?

[atomic abyss]

You never need any specific hull type outside hard mode

[atomic abyss]

Like Bayard, she pukes barrages yes

She does a surprising amount of damage

[sweet delta]

She becomes yuudachi-level after ramping up for 60s. But usually the battle is alMost over by then…

[fiery raptor]

like a french kiev huh.
good to know

[atomic abyss]

I remember her numbers in CM being downright nonsensical

[kindred arrow]

Would it be better to go finish PR5 or get a second La9 first?
I only have Harbin and Ply done from 5, just finished the girls from 7 today but I'm already halfway through a second La9

[atomic abyss]

Finish 5 first imo

Especially for 2nd plygun

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur ships

[atomic abyss]

If you lack Guam, you're recommended to take Brest

[cobalt rapids]

if u lack cbs then finish pr5 otherwise go for 2nd la-9

[kindred arrow]

I have every other CB, Azuma unleveled but she's there

[fiery raptor]

speaking of CB the next ship that would be added to UR pick roster is Kronk?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[kindred arrow]

So La9 before plygun then? Only got the one from shop

[atomic abyss]

Shinano is going to be like...the no.1 perma UR to pick for a very long time..

[cobalt rapids]

2nd la-9 has bigger impact than 2nd plygun

[atomic abyss]

Not till Musashi herself gets perma, which is not gonna be for another year

[fiery raptor]

mfw i made a second +13 ply and never used in in w15

[cobalt rapids]

u couldve given it to ur bbs

[fiery raptor]

that's what i ended up doing. never saw the suicides getting near them though

brest's butt gun kept killing them

[kindred arrow]

Got it, thanks guys Maybe by the time I'm done 5 already has coining which would be a great help

[cobalt rapids]

for DRs prob not for another year

[fiery raptor]

she has a aux that shoots backwards no?

[cobalt rapids]

some dd guns have 360* angle

[kindred arrow]

No, for Ruppy and Chaklov, so I can gather Brest faces faster

[cobalt rapids]

depends what u gave her

[fiery raptor]

she did have the 100 kai as her secondary
ah that does have 360

[atomic abyss]

Most DD guns have a 360° firing angle

With that said, most of the actually good ones do not iirc

Tash gun was the first DD gun without the 360

[cobalt rapids]

yea its just tash and harbin 💀
i thought theres more

[fiery raptor]

yeah 114 mk IV is 360 but they're hard to come by these days

forgot about these and mostly use the twin 130s and 100 kais

[bold stream]

Hello all again, i notice that Musashi is really protecting the team on her own. Should I just give her a tool box? She already doing so much dmg already?

[fiery raptor]

she doesn't use toolbox she uses steering gear instead

[tame jungle]

More levels and skill levels and you’ll be fine

[atomic abyss]

The toolbox will not help her

[bold stream]

I have only blue steerings, would that be okay?

[tame jungle]

Also retrofit your unicorn

[bold stream]

The yellow carrier things are hard to find

[atomic abyss]

3*-ing campaign hard mode maps that end in x-4 shd help

[fiery raptor]

ideally it's the gold ones, idk how much blue ones will help, as they say retrofit unicorn, she will keep healing musashi and keep her healthy and focused on damage

[bold stream]

I guess I can not push more with my current set up

[tame jungle]

You can probably do just fine with that, you’re just missing levels mostly

Not like opsi mobbing is all that difficult

[fiery raptor]

check guild store from time to time, they have selectable gold prints every now and then

[bold stream]

Hi all again. This new player quest asks me to purchase something. Which one is the best one to get here first?

[wind hazel]

white shell

[bold stream]

Thanks!

[opaque gate]

why does it have %?

[wind hazel]

it's from javelin's max limit break bonus

more info https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Dockyard#Limit_Break

[rare wyvern]

Is any of the parallel surface torps (magnetic) keeping up with the quad 533 mag ? The context would be stuff like Arby with immediate boss spawn, I'm pondering if it's worth it to not waste Ibuki's double preload

[opaque gate]

ok thanks

[coarse heron]

parallels are more useful for manual, even the mag ones

[rare wyvern]

For now I have two that can hit subs, but other parallels are more potent right ?

[fresh briar]

Should I level admiral graf Spee for tech points

[coarse heron]

the sub ones are niche

[fresh briar]

Wrong send

[coarse heron]

Spee's level 120 fleet tech is FP so that's arguably more useful than her tech points

[fresh briar]

She is not useful to my team but I'm still using her

[coarse heron]

yeah you'll be leveling a lot of useless ships to 120 because of the stats they'll give all your useful ships

[opaque gate]

hermione any good? juet for hms exp

[coarse heron]

She's one of the exceptionally bad Cruisers

[crimson glacier]

every ship is good enough for exp farm

[opaque gate]

oh lol i just mlbed her fuck

[coarse heron]

level her anyway for fleet tech

[fresh briar]

Eh I'm currently grinding on tech points

[opaque gate]

is this heal thingy also from javel??

[crimson glacier]

unicorn

[opaque gate]

whycis it so long

[crimson glacier]

what do you mean long

[opaque gate]

it is from start to finish, the green healing aura thingy

[crimson glacier]

then its something else

[opaque gate]

yeah that was my question, does anyone know what that is?

[lunar mason]

Can you remove the big pop up of you getting ships after each battle?

[crimson glacier]

from that pic i cant tell anything

[opaque gate]

ill just cope with hermione being cute rather than her being weak

ok thanks, so it is from the event, i guess

is hermione stronger than sirius in terms of damage though?

[crimson glacier]

maybe, but sirius is like insanely better

[opaque gate]

ahh i meant dido**

[cobalt rapids]

same thing

[crimson glacier]

id assume that dido is better at everything

[opaque gate]

rip, shouldve mlbed her than hermikne

[cobalt rapids]

shouldnt mlb either of em

[opaque gate]

i mean, it is just for combat data collection

[crimson glacier]

yeah so SSRs are useless

every rarity is good enough for exp farm

[cobalt rapids]

and their tech is also bad

[opaque gate]

currentlynusing hermione belfast javelin, is this good though for exp collection...? i mean in terms of comfort in runs

[crimson glacier]

every ship is good enough

gear matters more than the ships

[static dome]

Does META mat. (for rigging fortification) from cruise mission always enough for current season's META ship?

• like, META mat. in this season [from paid+free CP] could raise Houshou META's rf to to 100% (?)

[fiery raptor]

how does watarase damage compare to SR ships? is she seattle level of dps or better?

maybe scylla would be a better comparator, is watarase that level of damage?

[cobalt rapids]

if i counted right theres 350 avi forti mats in cruise but houshou needs 444 forti mats to max out avi

[static dome]

[cobalt rapids]

depends on the flag reload but she should be higher

[rare wyvern]

Are partial slows (not stops) more valuable with BBs on the backlane ? Or is it just a litle plus generally to slow the enemy for vanguard shots ?

[cobalt rapids]

depending on boss movement bbs can benefit alot from slows

its why aegir usually takes timing torps instead of dmg torps when possible ( aka if ur tech allows it )

but soyuz and bz kinda made this moot

[rare wyvern]

Fair, I wanted to use Chkalov because that's a FS5 just sleeping in my dock right now

[rare wyvern]

I'll try that

[cobalt rapids]

depends what ur doing but in a monohull team ur chkalov wouldnt replace a ur bb just coz of her slow

[rare wyvern]

I just realise I don't have that much viable BBs, so like I don't even know what full BB I can do

I really need to bring Musashi to 120

[cobalt rapids]

u can show ur BBs

[rare wyvern]

Good PRs aren't mlb

[cobalt rapids]

u have urs bb
for opsi musashi nj and uvy

[rare wyvern]

I also have Kearsarge but dev 19

[cobalt rapids]

yea shes not replacing any1

[rare wyvern]

Yeah but not that much, but actually, I think it's because I'm used to use my whole 4 fleets for bosses

[cobalt rapids]

2nd bb fleet can be richy fdg and howe

[rare wyvern]

Richy be good aside her faction buffs ?

[cobalt rapids]

yea just put her flag and shes good

[rapid grail]

yep she's one of the best SR BBs against light armor

[hollow gust]

shes kinda falling off with so much SR BBs

[cobalt rapids]

yea shes just aight rn

could prob even replace her with warspite for easier howe proc or izumo with aug

[rare wyvern]

Howe, Warspite, Ply sounds good to proc the buff for boss fleets right ?

[cobalt rapids]

yea but u wanna give ply to the ur bb fleet

[rare wyvern]

Ogey

Ply's skill barrage is actualy always active, huh

[cobalt rapids]

her flag bonus ? yea its 100% uptime

[brazen oracle]

This one surface torp
I can't find it anywhere. It's nowhere in the gear lab

[cobalt rapids]

it was event limited

[brazen oracle]

Shite

[noble tulip]

the normal quad mag is still fine

[brazen oracle]

image?

[brazen oracle]

what about those UR torps
where do I get those?

[cobalt rapids]

coredata shop but low priority to get

[brazen oracle]

thnx

[rare wyvern]

Are those worth the gearlab investment for playing manual while I already have like, two of the USS ones that hit subs ?

I can craft it but unsure

[noble tulip]

Those are pretty much pvp only

[cobalt rapids]

yes if u rly like manual

[noble tulip]

Pattern is kinda dog for mobbing no ? I'd think it's only decent for boss

[rare wyvern]

I usually clear the high end stuff in manual, namely strongholds, arbiters

So my vanguard eats a bit less damage

[cobalt rapids]

yes but certainly better than mark 35

[cobalt rapids]

eventually all these become autoable so i wouldnt rly bother with manual gaming unless u like it

[rare wyvern]

It's pretty fun honestly, but I think I'll save up the mats for likely the small gain I'll have from crafting

[whole crypt]

hm should I rush 13ing the second La9

[cobalt rapids]

ill do that till my 4th

[whole crypt]

what comp though

[cobalt rapids]

nyahki smth smth
yk2 smth smth

[whole crypt]

cat kear yt2 antimed?

[noble tulip]

Can we get 5 la9 before pr8 comes out

[cobalt rapids]

definetly

[whole crypt]

5 is feasible if you're on gear focus from 7 release

[cobalt rapids]

yea but needs np vang which idont like

[alpine condor]

which event stage is good for farming the event currencies so that i'd have enough for the ur equipment in the event shop

[noble tulip]

I've been stuck on 44/50 on my 2nd la9 for 2 weeks now so its getting very boring

[alpine condor]

(i'm currently on 4700 where do i get the remaining 5300)

[cobalt rapids]

luck of the draw

[whole crypt]

that's what I was thinking, pretty much voro isn't it

[cobalt rapids]

i was thinking tash

[whole crypt]

how's tash looking for med though

[cobalt rapids]

do ur lowcost dailies, sp and then farm D3
or mby theres another lowcost stage more eff but ure kinda out of time so u need time eff

[whole crypt]

mog gun?

[alpine condor]

wait is that an answer to my question or...

[tame jungle]

it's not

[alpine condor]

mmm i see tysmmm LMAOAOAOA