gameplay-help

[pearl quarry]

I have 4 star Musashi rn why?

[velvet slate]

aaah, a regular event. I was thinking of a 2nd type of opsi thats not yet released

[storm heron]

oh it's like the Ryuuhou pro max event

[whole crypt]

4 star Musashi is still better than most lower rarity BBs

[pearl quarry]

Let just say I got lucky when I got dupe

[normal kayak]

mine's at 6 star within days of obtaining her

i'm just getting points to get her main guns

[barren tapir]

i mean that all depends on how many ur bulins you have, you can mlb her within like 20 seconds of obtaining if you wanted to and have the resources

[storm heron]

I immediately 125'ed musashi

[barren tapir]

now you still need to grind affection waste exp

[whole crypt]

I never book up ships straight to 120/125 if I know I'll be using them for affinity anyway
you need time to level skills anyway so you're just wasting XP packs while the ship caps

[fallow sedge]

Can shipgirls recove rmorale without being in dorm

[sharp socket]

coping wait for potential dupes with the free tickets is a better decision but sure

[whole crypt]

yes dorm is just significantly faster

[velvet slate]

all u need to give your musashi is a blue IJN gun, 2 reloader + 1 red scroll for her barrage and she will get to a high level very fast. Than you can worry about giving her better gear or further limit breaks

[storm heron]

Idk I never book ships unless I have to

[spring bolt]

hmmm, just got musa on my EN account, i guess i will raise her too and compare her performance with tirp when one fleeting

[storm heron]

for example 3000

[barren tapir]

i only book them up enough to survive the exp treadmill i want to toss them in

[storm heron]

what? that's what dorms are for isn't it

[barren tapir]

for events its like level 30-40 for backliner and 40-50 for vanguard, for w12 it's 70ish, to use up dupes its 30

[whole crypt]

ship on active grind is going to 2/F because faster morale

[barren tapir]

my dorm is full of my mobfleet so i dont usually get a chance to level ships in it

[storm heron]

just put all ur 6 ships on the second floor?

[whole crypt]

I only use 1/F for passively leveling ships that aren't going to be leveled yet

[barren tapir]

im f2p

[storm heron]

like I don't get it, you can put 12 ships in the dorm but you can't level swap ins

[barren tapir]

i can put 6 ships in the dorm

[storm heron]

on each floor

[barren tapir]

no, in total

[storm heron]

[whole crypt]

it's normal for F2P I don't see the issue

[barren tapir]

unless you want to fund me 2500 gems?

[velvet slate]

you only get 12 ships if you have 2nd floor

[storm heron]

wait what

[fresh briar]

Roma worth it to use on chapter 12?

[whole crypt]

usually you buy 2 expansions + 2/F, not more 1/F slots

[storm heron]

dorm costed gems?

[barren tapir]

f2p dorm caps out at 3 slots + 2nd floor because dock space exists

u can do 4 slot eventually once ur dock is in a good spot

[whole crypt]

best way to max dorm slots is 2 expansion + 2/F for F2P

[fresh briar]

Guys does Roma good for chapter 12

[whole crypt]

that way you have exactly 6 slots for 1 fleet

[barren tapir]

for now i just shuffle ships, when im not grinding an oil stage i will swap out mobfleet on 1f to put in ships to level, but usually it's used for morale

[storm heron]

huh guess I was spending too much without thinking back then

[barren tapir]

i do also prioritized cap ships for 2nd floor, so 1f still gets some exp somewhere

[spring bolt]

nothing special, she can handle ch 12 but can't carry you

[fresh briar]

E

[barren tapir]

but yeah my go to solution to get ships battle ready immediately is books, theyre common enough

[storm heron]

I see, sorry

[barren tapir]

they just need barely enough hp/eva to survive and be carried after all, events r pretty tame

[whole crypt]

12 is also very tame

[leaden garden]

is protoype saiun kai good?

[whole crypt]

yes but depends

[noble tulip]

Unzen gun is probably my best bet for next +13 yeah ?

[whole crypt]

I'd just save the plates

also take plane plates from daily and guild shop if you've been focusing gun plates

[weary quartz]

How i do tech experiment i dont remember what to do

[leaden garden]

im jealous

[noble tulip]

I have 1k plane plates, I’m going for gun now

[whole crypt]

there's just really not much reason to +13 unzen gun

[novel solstice]

Go to the city marked with a green icon on the map, hit auto, come back in a minute or so.

[noble tulip]

So I guess saving for the next important gun and if nothing else comes out before I get like 640 gun plates, I’ll +13 it

[whole crypt]

personally I'd do the second hindenburg gun first, or even rainbow duck

I'm guessing you're already done with champagne guns as well

[noble tulip]

Yeah

Soyuz/Champy/Flandre guns done

[storm heron]

rainbow duck?

[whole crypt]

don't have Plymouth?

[whole crypt]

100mm kai

[noble tulip]

I do have ply

[storm heron]

how is it rainbow duck

[noble tulip]

I’m just 200 affinitying Felix for pvp

[whole crypt]

why isn't there a +13 q152 on Plymouth

[weary quartz]

Thanks 🙂

[grave ridge]

Chat is this better than the current one? (Assuming i make it +10)

[whole crypt]

something about how twin 100 is called a duck gun, supposedly from KC

[grave ridge]

As in the golden is worse than the current

Ty

[grizzled sundial]

The quad gun reload too long and shell land over the place

[storm heron]

the quad is the best gun, how is it all over the place

[whole crypt]

for reference my current guns

[whole crypt]

quad 356 is literally a rubbish gun that KGV maybe wants to use

[fiery swan]

Who should I do next in research?
Current ships (most at FS5 or Dev30 except for Plymouth at dev27) :
PR1: Sanrui, Roon, Monarch
PR/DR2: FDG
PR/DR3: everyone except Drake
PR4: everyone
PR5: Harbin, Plymouth

[storm heron]

oh I thought quad 152

[whole crypt]

PR7 I guess

[hollow gust]

Smh only 1 +13 Musashi gun

[whole crypt]

no use for the second one yet

[fiery swan]

Who should I make first there

[whole crypt]

all of them, focus down the series before moving on

who you do first doesn't matter, ship won't be usable before you have the prints anyway

[fiery swan]

I should finish Plymouth to dev30 first right?

[whole crypt]

have you used her catchup

[fiery swan]

Yes

[whole crypt]

then yes finish her first
keep in mind current rerun prints are also PR5 if you haven't picked them up

[fiery swan]

Is it worth it to exchange for prints

[whole crypt]

considering you haven't finished the ships probably

[fiery swan]

How important is PR/DR6 because I don't have PR5 prints anymore

[whole crypt]

which is why you do the current event and buy the prints...
PR6 has Shimanto at least which is great for ch15
Kearsarge is a staple now for anti-light CV fleet alongside Yorktown II

[bold stream]

Hello all. I am close to finishing Roon. Looking back, I kinda forced myself to use kms vanguards to get her fast. But what can I do next? Unlock Saint Luis?

Mainz is still 480/550

[whole crypt]

Hindenburg also top DPS CA

[whole crypt]

if you still don't have enough tech to do higher series then keep doing PR1
Ibuki is very good now with her augment

[hollow gust]

Shima powercreeped by a PR1 ship

[bold stream]

But ibuki is a sakura vanguard ship.. i currently do not have any leveled and she is still 17/20

I can do neptune or loius tho

[hollow gust]

Doesn't really matter what you do , just start one , it's preferable if you can start pr4 ships but if you can't , then it's whatever

[whole crypt]

Neptune I guess, pretty good with augment, at the end of the day it's just filler if you can't start later series ship

[bold stream]

I can just change what ship I am building if I suddenly got the requirements for others right?

[hollow gust]

Any ship even close to her in damage is often more preferable , she is a RNG nightmare

She either hits like a truck or whiffs everything ,and shes a glass cannon

[sinful elk]

Chat between this and the daisen gun which one is better for musashi

[wind hazel]

daisen

[sinful elk]

Why thou

[pearl quarry]

Chat

Is oath buff worth it?

[wind hazel]

stronger and lower rld time

[wind hazel]

it can be if you whale them all

[pearl quarry]

(I have starcourage which it have 100 affinity and I currently have 2 oath ring rn)

[wind hazel]

then no

[pearl quarry]

Either I spend all on starcourage+Musashi or I save

[wind hazel]

also who is starcourage

[soft raft]

if you're not a 💳 swiper, then oathing for meta is a huge waste of time

[pearl quarry]

(I'll spend one on Musashi because her oath skin)

[sinful elk]

Do you mean anchorage

[pearl quarry]

Uhhh the sport girl

[wind hazel]

huh

[sinful elk]

Can we have a picture of her

[hollow gust]

Stronger?

[wind hazel]

isn't it?

[hollow gust]

No? Not in more alpha

[pearl quarry]

I mean starbourge

[wind hazel]

show maths

last i saw the maths daisen has higher damage

[pearl quarry]

She's Carry my gyat rn

[whole crypt]

it's not strictly stronger though

[sinful elk]

Your ring your choice though

[hollow gust]

Wdym u mean math? It's a double vs a triple

[wind hazel]

coefficient also different

[sinful elk]

Everything for the sync

[pearl quarry]

This is tough ngl

[whole crypt]

raw alpha is 485.1 on izumo gun vs 390 on daisen gun

[hollow gust]

Not enough to make up for a gun barrel

[whole crypt]

daisen gun is just faster for some timing niches, and has a good heavy armour mod to offset some of that difference

[wind hazel]

sec lemme dig

[hollow gust]

It's just a rld for damage trade

[whole crypt]

what are you digging for

[boreal wagon]

mori is talking about the fact that daisen gun has a 125% base coeff vs izumo having a 105%, but the difference still isnt enough

[wind hazel]

the damage table from yahoo, gime sec

[pearl quarry]

How did I get 2 Musashi in like 13 build am I just lucky or beginner luck?

[whole crypt]

I included coeff in that calc

[boreal wagon]

i did not see myb

[hollow gust]

luck and why you still pulling

[soft raft]

RNG Go brrrr

[pearl quarry]

I use ticket

The 3rd ticket give me 2nd Musashi.

[soft raft]

Her?

[pearl quarry]

Yes why?

She's carrying me like hell

[sharp socket]

oath for your waifu if f2p

[soft raft]

I mean if she's your waifu, go ahead, nothing against that
but if you're trying to specifically buff her stats,

[sharp socket]

because stressburger not meta ship

[soft raft]

If you were really trying to tatical oath, it would be with URs and a 💳 on hand

[hollow gust]

Which is a never ending cycle of hell

[wind hazel]

ye i can't dig, maybe i remember wrong about it being stronger then

[whole crypt]

which gets worse when you also oath waifus on to of meta

[pearl quarry]

She's not meta?

[whole crypt]

was probably just for a specific timing niche somewhere

[pearl quarry]

But she's good for me tho

[hollow gust]

Doesn't mean she is a meta ship

[soft raft]

pretty far from it in harder content
She's only being good for you right now because Pre W12 is the baby zone

[whole crypt]

you're still way too early in the game, there are plenty of better ships out there

[wind hazel]

it was some table that looked like this, and i saw daisen pulling ahead of izumo

[pearl quarry]

After w12 she is ass?

[hollow gust]

Gold BBs get stomped by rainbows no matter what. The only reason you use her is cause you won't be able to max limitbreak your Musashi

[pearl quarry]

Should I keep unicorn or replace it with shinano

[soft raft]

At that point, you would ideally be working on better BBs than her

[whole crypt]

Unicorn and Shinano fill different roles

[soft raft]

They do completely different things
Unicorn is a Healer (Best healer in the game after retrofit) and Shinano is stonks damage CV

[whole crypt]

you will keep Unicorn as a healer in the mob fleet, Shinano is mostly a damage carrier used in a boss fleet

[rose whale]

what's the best map to farm coin? I need to prepare for the new collab 😊

[soft raft]

W12

[whole crypt]

12-4 or 13-4

[pearl quarry]

Unicorn is healer shinano is damage dealer

[rose whale]

thanks guys

[hollow gust]

Timing has always superseded raw alpha, doesn't mean the raw damage of daisen gun is better then izumo

[pearl quarry]

I'm still at w4...

[hollow gust]

Dude just use the fleet we recced

[pearl quarry]

Wait no w5

[soft raft]

then you shouldnt even be giving a single toss about Shinano right now
I highly doubt you can even limit break her once right now

[pearl quarry]

I still using it tho

With some changes by replacing my blue DD with Musashi

[whole crypt]

just use it until you're at like ch9 or something, there's no point trying to swap so early in the game

you can't replace a DD with Musashi you probably meant BB

[soft raft]

Damn didnt know you can put BBs in the frontline now

[pearl quarry]

Oh wait I meant bb

Dd stand for destroyer what about bb?

[velvet slate]

4* musashi will outperform almost any non UR battleship if you max her red skill

[hollow gust]

Wait what tf , why did you have a blue bb , where was enterprise

[wind hazel]

im inclined to say at least 5* musashi

[pearl quarry]

Whats the max level?

[soft raft]

Im inclined to say dont use a UR until you can MLB them
That way you dont spread your bullins out too thin

[soft raft]

6* is MLB for URs

[pearl quarry]

I mean for the skill

[velvet slate]

UR max level is not limited by awakening level. You can have level 125 UR and still be 3* (obviously will be far weaker)

[whole crypt]

1LB Musashi will likely outperform any early BB recc but not just any SR BB

[hollow gust]

Wait send your fleet, are you using both Strasbourg and Musashi

[pearl quarry]

Ye why?

[wind hazel]

ah it was this

[whole crypt]

it's probably fine for Musashi it's not like he's at levels for MLB yet anyway

[wind hazel]

is this not daisen is stronger, or am i just reading it wrong

[hollow gust]

That shouldn't be happening? You had enterprise

[pearl quarry]

Yes why?

[whole crypt]

this is daisen gun doing better with a shell than izumo gun does with an autoloader if you need that timing

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

so fair to say that daisen better in most cases then

altho yeah it's not stronger if we disregard the setup

[whole crypt]

in most cases? you don't use a loader

[pearl quarry]

Do I need to edit or nah

[soft raft]

Yes you do

[hollow gust]

Where is your starter dd

[whole crypt]

what chapter are you doing now again

[soft raft]

He's on W5

[hollow gust]

There is a reason why I posted this man , you literally just had to copy it

[whole crypt]

he's still at ch5 I'd replace Strasbourg with his new Musashi and start leveling, he totally does not need Strasbourg to carry

[pearl quarry]

The DD 1st slot is Enterprise?

[whole crypt]

DD is destroyer

that's the main fleet slot and Enterprise is a CV

[soft raft]

I think the skins are confusing him

[whole crypt]

main fleet doesn't mean only BBs

[wind hazel]

strip them

[forest palm]

don't think it'd change much of anything, but using Damage calculations with an Autoloader is just weird

[whole crypt]

again, it's only for a specific timing

[pearl quarry]

Is this better now?

[wind hazel]

ngl i forgot how i used musashi

[lavish scroll]

I just comeback my lil enty acc, and i forget that i have Amagi cv and Alsace. Are they can use as mob fleet?

[forest palm]

the only thing I can really say though is you're not going to PR7 anytime soon just for Daisen gun. PR5, and PR4 are just far more important than a one off gun for Musashi, so logestics have to be thought out as well

[soft raft]

they work in both mob and boss perfectly fine

[fiery raptor]

If I can only have one "ehp extender" support in my vanguard, between the likes ancho, jda and eldridge, which option would do best in hardening my vanguard?

[hollow gust]

Anchor tank

[soft raft]

better yes
tho of course Z23 needs lvls and the like

[whole crypt]

if Z23 is your starter then yeh go with that, you'll have to move Z23 to the middle to avoid her dying earlier on though

[pearl quarry]

Ok

[frank pulsar]

eldridge

[velvet slate]

yes alsace works for mobbing in pretty much every chapter in the game

[fiery raptor]

ancho main tank even if one of the other vanguards is a CB like Brest/Kala?

[pearl quarry]

Quick question why is my starter better than Prinz Eugen?

[frank pulsar]

ancho is roughly third tankiest tank depending on where yr bringing her

[wind hazel]

they are not better, but you will be required to retrofit your starter DD for a mission later on

so in the end it's more efficient to raise them now for that reason

[pearl quarry]

Ok

[hollow gust]

They are ? They don't need more tanks , they need a vanguard that doesn't tickle the enemy

[soft raft]

Portland is already doing Eugen's job, you don't need two main tanks in a fleet

[whole crypt]

Z23 is definitely better damage than Eugen, not at this level but you need to raise her anyway

[soft raft]

Portland is also cheaper than Eugen

[fiery raptor]

w15, speaking of which putting a VH on a CB instead of Bulge is just going to get them killed, yes?

[whole crypt]

Portland is also needed for rookie missions

[hollow gust]

VH is a bait basically everywhere

[pearl quarry]

Alright okay

[frank pulsar]

theyre gonna explode if you use a vh yea, guam laffii brest and ancho are your best tank options for w15

[pearl quarry]

Also do I need to finish my newcomer mission?

[fiery raptor]

does that even expire?

[soft raft]

It don't
But still finish it asap

[wind hazel]

you want to finish it, it's freebies and will help in progression

[pearl quarry]

I have a slightly problem with it

my oil it's full...

[soft raft]

Buy dorm food then

[wind hazel]

no, use it in sortie

[pearl quarry]

Isn't that cost gem?

[wind hazel]

spend your oil in event

[soft raft]

Only the two on the very right

[pearl quarry]

Ok

[wind hazel]

buying dorm food, especially for newbie is such a waste

[fiery raptor]

only the last two types, just buy like 10,000 curry

[soft raft]

But yeah doing this would be more beneficial to you rn

[whole crypt]

you don't need to rush rookie mission might as well spend oil diligently than buy food before claiming

[pearl quarry]

Is it better to retire low rarity character or feed them to a higher rarity character

[keen sable]

C = Enhance
Everything else = medals

[pearl quarry]

Ok

I have 30 cube rn
Should I save for the Collab?

[soft raft]

Since you already got Musashi, yeah if anyone there particularly piques your interest

Otherwise continue to save for the highly likely December UR

And a non-zero chance of Yorktown 2 rerun within the year or right after the Dec UR

[pearl quarry]

Why tho?

[soft raft]

Because 1) we (currently) know nothing about the Collab characters in terms of stats and 99% of the time, people who pull on collabs are pulling for Waifu and 2) Gacha URs are a lot more worthwhile than a majority of event ships

[pearl quarry]

Alright

[plush bone]

and if any of the event ships is really good, you'll probably hear it somewhere

[mellow cape]

Worth investing into?

[soft raft]

Not really
At most Klaudia as a secondary healer and maybe Ryza if you 1) have her Auxes and 2) don't have any better DPS CLs

[mellow cape]

Ahh shame it was such a cool collab

[soft raft]

Kala isn't half bad either but she's weaker than the UR CBs

Powercrept got to Ryza rip
And Aquila and Volga make Klaudia less attractive for the secondary healer role

[hollow gust]

Well gear and level lmao

[proud bay]

I have just returned to the game recently and I have little to no clue what I am doing. I am struggling to progress beyond Chapter 9 of the Main campaign. What ship types or ship(s) should I invest in and is there any particular things I should look out for? (the pic attached is my current formation)

[ember forge]

any tips on which to pick ?

[stark quiver]

no one as of now

[graceful rain]

in terms of gear I have no gears and I’m pretty sure I’m not under level but not really high over level either-_-

[hollow gust]

Coggies and arrays

[hollow gust]

Go to where you can clear and get a few more levels

[graceful rain]

Aight back to 3-2 here i come

[soft dagger]

musashi and nj are not mlb, and portland should be tanking

[proud bay]

mlb means max limit break right?

[soft dagger]

right

[graceful rain]

btw I also have Sakawa lazing around in my dock untouched and wondering if I could replace her with any ship in my current fleet

[ocean shuttle]

your frontline is decent for the earlygame, but given that's it's an early SR for you, use it in your second fleet front line

[pearl quarry]

Btw is fireren meta?

[soft dagger]

i dont know who that is

[pearl quarry]

FIreren

The research season 4

[plush bone]

?

[soft dagger]

meta research?

[pearl quarry]

Yeah

Where U do project to get her

[fiery raptor]

Flandre is VI not IV

[hollow gust]

The only ship you should be replacing is repulse with honestly anything

[pearl quarry]

My question is
Is fireren meta?

[hollow gust]

Who?

[pearl quarry]

The Ur oath skin

[hollow gust]

?????

[pearl quarry]

Fierdrich is she meta??

[fiery raptor]

fred is meta yes

[stark quiver]

oh fdg
shes season 2

[pearl quarry]

I'm getting her why?

[fiery raptor]

strongest mobber that isn't musashi

[hollow gust]

FDG is a amazing ship , but top top meta eh

[pearl quarry]

But the thing is how do I complete the season fast?

[fiery raptor]

get more coin

[pearl quarry]

But I need to do research

[fiery raptor]

then use more kms backline

[stark quiver]

coining exists

[fiery raptor]

3 kms should manage the event ok

[mellow cape]

Any tips for Sandy aux's?

[stark quiver]

toolkit + rudder

[mellow cape]

Tyty c:

[pearl quarry]

Whats that

[ocean shuttle]

iron blood/german main ships (BB/CV)

for beginners that'll likely be scharnhorst + gneisenau + tirpitz/bismark/other

[whole crypt]

you're not in a position to rush researches, just do event and push progression first

[bold salmon]

is this sp event harder than others?

[whole crypt]

not really

[pearl quarry]

Ok

Is new jersey good?

Fr???

But isn't permanent Ur are trap?

[stark quiver]

just because she's been powercrept doesnt make her bad

[stark quiver]

its a trap if you pull perma for UR's
if you just happen to hit pity thru dailiy pulls and whatnot then its fine

[crimson glacier]

NJ is good but less good than the newer UR BBs

so yes its a trap if you already have other URs that need bulins

but if not then she will be really good for you

[toxic nexus]

I just started this game yesterday, is this a good start?

[crimson glacier]

well you got musashi so yes

[soft raft]

Give this a read
It's a decent start mainly due to Musashi
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

But the rest of your fleet is a wee bit more questionable

[toxic nexus]

I only reached chapter 3-1 and only done 1 10 pull or w/e its called in this game so I can see how my fleet is weird xD

[steel grotto]

ideally what gear should i put on avp?

[vocal pawn]

I feel like there's something wrong with my cruise pass missions. I'm on the last week, S.P. says it's complete, and its only level 58. Is this normal?

[tame jungle]

planes that make her airstrike go inbetween your two other cvs

[undone plover]

Check the previous weeks
Looks like u havent finished them yet

[vocal pawn]

All other weeks are complete

[plain saffron]

Can you screenshot sp

[vocal pawn]

Idk what's going on. Previously I feel like I've gotten all rewards in like 5-6 weeks

[boreal wagon]

level 58 w/o most of week 8 and most of SP sounds correct

[plain saffron]

Either try restarting or maybe they'll send compensation again. I didn't check mine

[vocal pawn]

Oh has this happened before?

[forest palm]

SP + 5 full weeks of missions + 4 missions from week 6 would max things out

[vocal pawn]

Yeah, guess mine's bugged 🤷

[boreal wagon]

if restarting doesnt fix it u can try ur luck in #tech-support or just contact them directly cuz afaik cruise pass should be working as normal

[vocal pawn]

Aight, thanks

[frosty slate]

So how do these work? I should do just the Siren ones to get the good things, right?

[fiery swan]

What's the best use for blue protocore

[light mango]

Any other level to get st louis than level 10-3?

I already waste about 8000 oil

And still didnt get her

[fiery raptor]

how useful is aa gun Hindenburg, is there any ship her performance in that form is comparable to? Ofc I'm going to make her double hindo gun in the end, just waiting for the bps to get the 2nd gun.

[fiery swan]

^

[fiery raptor]

light construction, she'll spook you every now and then, especially if event banner is light construction based

[tame jungle]

you don't use AA gun hindenburg

it's a waste

[fiery swan]

Should I buy Tenrai prints with blue protocore

[fiery raptor]

not even for event? she's dev 30 and skilled just waiting for her 2nd gun

[tame jungle]

what extra value does AA gun bring there? there's like no planes

might as well slap a random CA gun on there

[fiery raptor]

so just put a random 2nd ca gun? okay

[tame jungle]

any 2 good main guns and you're fine

[fiery raptor]

i have the 1st hindenburg gun, and i suppose i can craft a drake gun i can use a slot fill that i can giveto someone else later

[tame jungle]

that's fine but i'd hold off on crafting drake gun if you're somewhat low on the ords

not sure what your situation is tho so make that judgement yourself

[fiery raptor]

not low on ords, low plates, these ur guns eat so many

[tame jungle]

true that

[light mango]

Need help to build fleet 1 and fleet 2

[soft dagger]

If you have 2 champy already

[ivory pawn]

Usual recommendation is Champy gun then get the Tenrai prints.

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[fiery swan]

I already have like 3 or 4 champy

[ivory pawn]

Then yeah, Tenrai.

[narrow ibex]

is there anyway to get your ships to auto heal when doing opsi in autosearch

[soft raft]

like automatically use healing items? no

[trim path]

which gun's flandre gun?

[mellow cape]

Unicorn?

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_380mm_(Mle_1935_Prototype)

[trim path]

ty

[narrow ibex]

🙄

[fiery raptor]

if your mob has unicorn and aquila/volga/zuihou some other secondary healer they should stay topped up if you at least keep up on getting the adapts materials at 10, 15 and 20 sectors cleared

if you are at 200 adapts they should be unkillable outside of stronghold

[fiery swan]

Is this good

[soft raft]

Timing sidegrade to Champy Gun

[narrow ibex]

unfortunately, I only have unicorn out of all those.

[fiery raptor]

even shouhou? she will manage reasonably well with good equips

[sweet delta]

And unicorn is already enough…

[narrow ibex]

oh, I have her. just never even used her

[fiery raptor]

unicorn should be plenty with high adapts, could be a compo issue if they're still taking too much damage

but yeah, your bb flag is going to be working harder to do more damage with double healer shouhou and so will your vanguard

but they should get your 50 map quota without issue

[fiery raptor]

yeah my shouhou has been to w13, opsi strategic search is doable for her

but with perseus and ryuuhou spooking you in special banner, keep an eye out for them, if going for damage instead, try slotting in independence instead of a second healer.

faster dead enemies -> less damage taken

[narrow ibex]

cheers. i'll probably wait for aquila rate up.

[fiery raptor]

is aquila a permanent now too? iirc her event is in war archive

[reef flume]

She is

[void garnet]

Anyone know if le malin U can equip regular le malin skins?

[fiery raptor]

if both are at max affection

just not the default skins

[void garnet]

oh i need to own both characters?

[fiery raptor]

i'm not sure, but in my case 100 affection is a req for my ships to share skins

laffii laffey and bismarck and zwei in my scenario

[void garnet]

ah ok my gf and i just started and she really wants le malin u and the bunny skin but we don't know if we would have to unlock both the characters

[fiery raptor]

vanilla malin should be in medal shop from time to time

so it wouldn't hurt to have both to make sure it works

[void garnet]

hmm maybe get both for mob and boss lol

[opaque gate]

are there only a few cb?

[fiery raptor]

yes

[void garnet]

can they both equip the same skin?

like can both laffey use the oath skin at the same time

[fiery raptor]

yes

[opaque gate]

only agir and azuma?

[fiery raptor]

guam brest and kala ideas

[boreal wagon]

the requirement to have both at 100 affinity is old news
it was changed to only have the one that wants to use the skin needing 100
(which also means you don't even need to own the original)

[honest stirrup]

There's only 6, one of them is a collab and everyone else are DR/Event UR

[fiery raptor]

oh yeah kronstadt too

[void garnet]

can laffey and laffii be in the same fleet or no

[fiery raptor]

yes

[soft raft]

they are completely sepreate ships (Both in game and IRL) so yeah
and technically outside of OpSi, you can have either two laffeys or two laffey II's in the same fleet

not like there's a pratical reason why to, but yeah

[void garnet]

here for the waifus so it's all good

so you can have both laffeys and in the same skin

[fiery raptor]

one guy did w15 with laffii in both mob and boss and their use case was fair enough

[whole crypt]

technically outside of OS you can have 2 Laffeys and 2 Laffey II's in the same sortie across 2 fleet
they still don't fit in the same fleet

[whole crypt]

same argument's been basically been used for every UR, but you really don't need to

[misty burrow]

when a retrofit changes a skill, does it keep its levels or do we need to level it up again?

[soft raft]

it keeps it

[fiery raptor]

yeah, i also saw a UvH double sortie at some point too

[misty burrow]

thanks

[fiery raptor]

not necessary, but if you really want to you could do it.

[oblique canyon]

Is there something I'm missing with Exercises? I made sure I'm attacking the left most opponent and they had a higher rank than me, but after all my exercises I'm still 10 points behind people?

[soft raft]

ask #pvp since most of us in here generally dont care to min-max exercises

[whole crypt]

the amount of points you get from a match also depends on the actual difference in points between you and the opponent

[sweet delta]

Goes by points not by rank

[oblique canyon]

Ah I see, thank you. Also didn't have the PVP channel added it, thanks

[mellow cape]

Is there a way to set only one secretary so I can display my fav skin?

[jaunty vault]

remove all the others

[mellow cape]

No way to leave them there so that I can still get the secretary affinity?

[jaunty vault]

only one ship gets affinity either ways

[whole crypt]

only leftmost secretary gains affinity regardless

[mellow cape]

Err sorry I think I wrote my question kinda weird. If I wanted soyuz to get affinity but I wanted Laffey as my main art displayed

Is there a way to do that? Or will it only randomly rotate

[jaunty vault]

dont think so, you can rotate back to laffey when soyuz pops up

i do not think there's an option to have only one secretary displayed but my memory is also a bit hazy on that

[mellow cape]

Noted ty for the answer

[desert tapir]

How many books can be held in overflow before don't earn any more?

[fiery raptor]

brest's heals are only once per battle yes?

been at nearly 2k before, the game can handle over 10k/5 digits if going off food at least

wasn't it like 1600 books to get a ship from 1 to 120?

[keen sable]

Xp books? 3000

[desert tapir]

So 3000 in depo and 3000 in pick up?

[jaunty vault]

2 heals, each once, ye

[jaunty vault]

there's no limit to holding it in the collector afaik

[boreal wagon]

3000 in depot and 35-66 (depending on lecture hall level) in the "back up" storage of the side menu

[keen sable]

Max lecture hall can hold 66

[jaunty vault]

doesn't it produce 66 at max capacity

is that also the holding limit

[boreal wagon]

it converts 6600 exp per hour at max level but 1 pack is 3k exp

[jaunty vault]

ok i did the math and max capacity production is 73⅓

[analog bluff]

how i can farm gold? i mean by this

[rain charm]

How much does it matter what ships you use

Can you just choose your favorite ahips and use them

[fiery raptor]

depends how deep on campaign you want to go

[keen sable]

12+. Event D3 is okayish. Depends on how much you need.

[fiery raptor]

and how many favorites you intend to push

[rain charm]

Only one or two

[analog bluff]

tysm

[soft raft]

Varies
You can easily do whatever you want pre W12, but afterwards, it depends on how willing you are to manual and/or do lots of resets

[fiery raptor]

if you pick one favorite random ship that is non-meta, you can probably hit and clear w15, but you will need to invest heavily in levels and equipment to carry them

[keen sable]

You can probably carry 1 useless ship in even the hardest content. As useless as a L1 mutsuki but you better know what you are doing.

[fiery raptor]

w15 is current end-game

[analog bluff]

300k

[fiery raptor]

we have maille breze and arethusa simps making it as far as w14/15 but that is the just one deadweight their fleet can allow. they are were carried by meta picks

[stark quiver]

Just do 12-4

[soft raft]

Huh
What do you need 300k for

[analog bluff]

100 pulls more for musashi + more upgrades

[keen sable]

Depends on how fast you want to go but it's unlikely to farm 300k in one day.

[remote quarry]

You would have to have 4-6 fleets, rotating, and using High-Efficiency books

[eternal moth]

I assume you haven't gotten her yet? Because it's not worth pulling just for dupes

[analog bluff]

i don't have her

[spring bolt]

isn't 100 pulls 150k coins?

[analog bluff]

and i pulled 105 times

[hushed sorrel]

if you are lucky you still have coins in the message storage

[spring bolt]

then why do you need 300k?

[analog bluff]

I want to upgrade her weapon to the max

[fiery raptor]

you can worry about that after you get musashi

[spring bolt]

that is not going to cost anywhere near 150k coins

[fiery raptor]

around 10-15k at most

[analog bluff]

mm i see

[mellow cape]

Have you farmed her weapon yet

[analog bluff]

ofc is not worth to do that, but how i can get gold more faster if i am in stage 5-2

[eternal moth]

That's the absolute worst way to get coins

[soft dagger]

chill dont rush

[analog bluff]

okok

[eternal moth]

Just spam the highest stage you can

[analog bluff]

okok

[spring bolt]

no, no other way to get 150k in 1 day if you are at ch 5
unless musa is your top wifu and you can't play without her, just let her go
even in that case, rerolling is a better option than buying coins with gems

[fiery raptor]

do we only have 1 day in the event left?

thought there's still a couple

[eternal moth]

No, it ends Thursday

[fiery raptor]

take a chill pill then

[eternal moth]

Well, Wednesday night/Thursday morning

[hushed sorrel]

if you have enough time to play daily then you still get a few free banner tickets that will further decrease the coins you need and maybe you are lucky enough to draw her without the max amount

[eternal moth]

Did you already buy all the tickets from the event?

[low juniper]

How much exp does it take for a UR to go from 115 to 120

[mellow cape]

What does a 12-4 farming setup look like if I want to stick in any lvl 100 ship to get her up? I have San Diego and volga

[eternal moth]

If it's on safe, pretty much whatever you want

[fiery raptor]

unicorn retro, a decent bb flag and whatever the hell ships you want as long as they are mlb

[eternal moth]

It's even easier if you have a good crossfleet in fleet 2

[mellow cape]

Any examples? c:

[eternal moth]

All rainbow gachas

[tame jungle]

Literally what torbeau said

[fiery raptor]

musashi, shinano, yorktown ii, guam ,shimakaze and unzen for the crossfleet spammers

the exp mobber can 1 fleet the whole thing

[mellow cape]

Oh okay, let me come back after I try and make a fleet 2 and fleet 1.

[eternal moth]

Yeah, that's what I do when I need to level a bunch of trash

[mellow cape]

And San Diego, just bring a max AA gun and main gun/torp as blue guns?

[eternal moth]

Have you already beaten 12-4 and gotten it to safe?

[mellow cape]

Yeahh I have! I actually been hard stuck on 13 lol

[fiery raptor]

gold bofors are plenty good for 12-4

even purple ones if the ship has aa skills

[mellow cape]

So I want to lvl some more URs up before trying 13 again

[eternal moth]

Sandy wants a good main gun, although torps don't matter

[eternal moth]

You don't need it, I beat it with NJ as my only rainbow

[fiery raptor]

same

nj wasn't even mlb until 13-2

people were memeing how mch a plane hell w13 was so everyone else was built especially to shred planes

my damage was ass and cleared with B ranks because i took too long

noshiro isuzu reno as my mob vanguard and portland helena sandy as boss my fleet was f'king awful

[hollow gust]

[keen sable]

Pray you're a slacker on 5-2 with max fleet tech... do long com...

[eternal moth]

At that point your back line is more important. What were using for healing, Aquila?

[barren tapir]

aa mean nothing without good dmg longer fights means more dmg taken regardless of aa

[fiery raptor]

my mob backline? unicorn illustrious and ryuuhou

[rare wyvern]

Who should I use on w14 ? Wolfpack fun but I haven't done their skills yet, and the IJN subs have their skills level 10

[barren tapir]

bro legit went full memetank, i'm impressed

[eternal moth]

No wonder. That sounds miserable.

[mellow cape]

So I have
unicorn, Bismarck, blank

And Sandy, Plymouth, and blank

Both blanks for exp slots for random ships I want to level

Yay or nay?

[barren tapir]

unicorn can carry 5 random shitters easily

[fiery raptor]

boss backline was at least enterprise new jersey and essex so that was less regarded

[barren tapir]

as long as you have like basic decent gear to put on said shitters it will be ezpz

[keen sable]

BTW the conversion rate of oil to coin is like 4 to 8 so if you don't have over 20k oil, it won't matter.

[dawn ledge]

who's the best

[mellow cape]

Okay what if I want to be efficient with oil? Would that same fleet still be good if I just removed Plymouth?

[fiery raptor]

wolfpack makes it pretty straightfoward and can carry over to w15

[barren tapir]

unicorn

[dawn ledge]

she good?

[barren tapir]

there's oilcap...

[rare wyvern]

Even if it's level 1 on all three ?

[fiery raptor]

just use whoever, you are subsidized by oilcap

[mellow cape]

Oh true loll 💀 okay brb testing

[barren tapir]

level their skills, dont have to max them (but ofc, max is best)

[eternal moth]

Get Unicorn and Penny from the Rare Ships pool, and then reset and get Helena and Portlant

[barren tapir]

UR in purple clothing

[rare wyvern]

My classes are full with surfaces I need for w14 for now, but wolfpack will be next

[barren tapir]

well after her retro but shes still gud even before

[dawn ledge]

Got unicorm from now

[tame jungle]

unicorn retro is very high priority

[mellow cape]

Yeah she was my first retro and it changed the game for me lol

[barren tapir]

not very high, literal numbah 1 prio for retros

[tame jungle]

since when is #1 not very high priority

[barren tapir]

nitpicking i know but it's a real gamechanger, speedrun it

#1 is top priority

[tame jungle]

that's very high

[keen sable]

Don't stop. Keep going

[barren tapir]

very high implies there's a highest prio above it (im just messin with ya)

[dawn ledge]

you mean pennsy?

[eternal moth]

Everyone just calls her Penny, but yes, Pennsylvania

[keen sable]

Penny and portland order doesn't really matter

[barren tapir]

pennsylvania

surprisingly decent for a blue without retro

served me well until i got nelson all suited up

[dawn ledge]

i had but i retired her

[barren tapir]

she even has good tech

[dawn ledge]

next time i will keep her thanks guys

[dawn ledge]

i'm just referring with the rarity so idk their tech in particular

[barren tapir]

keep one of every ship until you dont have dock space (and then sell your soul to akashi)

[keen sable]

She's free... mayhaps you are using a sr bb already?

As free as unicorn...

[dawn ledge]

i'm using aquilla

[barren tapir]

thats a lategame concern dont mind it

but i would ask before yeeting ships as rarity (beyond UR = bestest) isnt super cut and dry in azur lane

[keen sable]

Not a bb. Who else.

[dawn ledge]

what's a bb

[keen sable]

Battleship

[barren tapir]

especially early on when you will be limited by gold/UR bulins

[dawn ledge]

i just have prototype as super rare

[barren tapir]

yeah get penny

[eternal moth]

That's fine, I beat chapter 10 without any super rares

Or at least no ships that start at SR

[dawn ledge]

i'm struggling at chapter 2

[eternal moth]

Do your ships have gear

Have you tried enhancing any of them?

[dawn ledge]

they have but not enchanced all

[barren tapir]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips this may help

[dense cairn]

Is this the place to look for a guild?

[forest palm]

#1246721562741178410

[dense cairn]

Oh its a thread. No wonder i couldnt find it. Idk how threads work XD thank you!

[rare wyvern]

Any BBV outside Kearsarge good for late content ?

[spring bolt]

no

[rare wyvern]

Sad times for seaplanes

[forest palm]

seaplanes have always been shit, and the needle hasn't moved for over 4 years at this point

[dense cairn]

I recently unlocked Meowfficers and Im not entirely sure how they work? Do I focus on leveling up only one or multiple? Is Antenna the best one for me to level up?

[spring bolt]

check their talents, use the better ones
if you have no idea, just slap 2 on each of your fleet and forget about them

[cobalt rapids]

it depends on their talents and skills the former being more important
for now u can lvl bisha and antenna unless pound has good talents
u can always transfer later their xp through feeding at a loss

[forest palm]

you want to at least have 2 SSR Cats @ Lv 30 for your Ops Mob Fleet

[dawn ledge]

how do you get crystal fragment

[cobalt rapids]

meta ship dupe in gacha or drop/ arbiter / weeklies / opsi voucher shop

[sweet delta]

I don't think someone who's at chapter 2 should be needing crystal fragments

[sharp coyote]

Brand new player. Built 3 Musashi from the event banner. Do I use the extras for limit break or save them?

[little geyser]

limit break

[sharp coyote]

Are dups the only way to LB a UR ship?

[stark quiver]

Bulins
Purple for purple and below
Gold for gold
UR for UR

[keen sable]

no, ur bulins exist

[little geyser]

but use th dupes first

[sharp coyote]

Where to you get UR bulins?

[keen sable]

Events > Specialized Core?

[sharp coyote]

Thanks!

[lucid wolf]

any other way to get coins other then farming missions?

[keen sable]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#bulins

[keen sable]

what's a farming mission?

12+, cost limit, and long com are the basic ways

[lucid wolf]

from chapter 9, you can ''farm'' the missions to get coins.

[viscid swift]

you mean commissions?

[barren tapir]

are you talking about clearing rewards

[keen sable]

chapter 9 would fall under "cost limit"

[lucid wolf]

yep

[viscid swift]

those aren't missions

they're just part of the drops you get from clearing the map

[lucid wolf]

eh.. ok

eitherway..

[viscid swift]

anyway no, your main source of coins will be grinding maps

you'll want to push further in the campaign for better returns

[lucid wolf]

darn

[sharp coyote]

Is there a way to farm the xp boost consumables?

[viscid swift]

yes, from the lecture hall which you need to supply with XP earned with level 100+ ships

[barren tapir]

lecture hall, fight battles with level 100+ ships

[sharp coyote]

Any suggested guides for META ships? I have a couple but have no idea what I should/shouldn't be doing with them. I just started playing this past weekend and am still a bit confused on what things I should be focused on.

[sweet delta]

The guide for new players is that purple rarity META are BAD, and gold rarity meta you probably don't have enough time to max limit break (MLB) at this time

[spring bolt]

tldr: don't use them

[queen jackal]

any sort of average exist for how long it takes for new oath skins to get added

[sweet delta]

Yes there is historical average which you can calculate (yourself) by looking at /wiki recent news

[viscid swift]

you're looking at 3 every CN Anni, 1 every EN Anni, and 3 every JP Anni

which ships get chose is a coin toss

[eternal moth]

At least one of them is going to be the winner of the popularity contest, but I don't remember if they even do that every year

[soft raft]

iirc it's every other year
I vaugely remember asking on the subreddit on why there wasnt one last year

[sharp coyote]

What is the point of the TB mini-game? Is there a reason for me to try and get all of the endings?

[keen sable]

if you like that kind of stuff

[cobalt rapids]

TB secretary, for the fun of it, thats all

[soft dagger]

is there a guide for it?

[cobalt rapids]

https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1204845559790440488 the pins in this thread

[soft dagger]

thanks

[sweet delta]

Is there a guide for private quarters too?

[cobalt rapids]

that one is private

[dawn ledge]

How much you need to finish it ? i have 12 rn

[eternal moth]

60

[dawn ledge]

oh damn that's long

[eternal moth]

Well, 60 runs of the last zone to get the guaranteed drop

[dawn ledge]

so it's 1 run each?

[cobalt rapids]

why are u farming visitors dyed in red

[dawn ledge]

I'm asking to finish them all

just an example

[cobalt rapids]

war archives arent worth farming except divergent chessboard for kms tech

[eternal moth]

It depends what you mean by "finishing them all". Just getting it to 100%, or getting the guaranteed drop

[dawn ledge]

to get the girl only

[eternal moth]

70+ keys per WA

[inland shoal]

You are aware that you can just buy her with medals?

[quartz jungle]

There are exceptions like La Galissoniere/Kasumi META

[cobalt rapids]

but kasumi meta is bad

[quartz jungle]

Newer players are probably not getting a better torp stat ship

Anyways she like T3 no?

[cobalt rapids]

newer players cant afford to meta rig kasumi so theres prob plenty other ijn dds that will have similar stats as her

like shiranui

[eternal moth]

Hanazuki is in elite ships in guild shop as well, who's in the same tier

Same goes for Naganami, and she's even better

[sweet delta]

La gali is ok but she would be for a second fleet because she's not replacing Helena

And at the time of starting a second fleet, they should get a full reevaluation

[cobalt rapids]

ah i see and kagerou is in t1

[strong tartan]

did that one french triple 152 come with clemenceau of marseillaise

[stark quiver]

Yes
Event gear

[soft raft]

clemenceau event yes

[stark quiver]

Oh yea clem event

[strong tartan]

both events ran back to back right

[clever marlin]

just got san francisco. should i replace my retrofit portland with her at this point?

i'm level 68 rn so new player

[cobalt rapids]

what is this point

[clever marlin]

world 6

[cobalt rapids]

not

[clever marlin]

oki thankss

what location in the fleet should musashi go? flagship? i have ulrich and unicorn with her

[eternal moth]

Flag in that case, yeah

[clever marlin]

sweeeeet thank u

[eternal moth]

Once you get to out of ammo you may want to switch Musashi and Ulrich though

[clever marlin]

good to know

[eternal moth]

Otherwise Ulrich will be doing almost no damage

[cobalt rapids]

what limit breaks are they

[clever marlin]

none yet but i have a UR bulin so i could bring one up by one (leaning musashi cuz i like her)

my unicorn is max and working on retrofit

[cobalt rapids]

yea funnel all into musashi and kick uvh out

[clever marlin]

oki should i replace uvh with sovetskaya? i have her at max limit break

[eternal moth]

Is that Soyuz? If so yeah

[clever marlin]

ah no it's uhhhh belorussiya

didn't notice there was another hahaha

[cobalt rapids]

its better but might have something better
either way it works

[eternal moth]

Assuming you've done any real progression in the game, ships are only good if they're max limit broken

[clever marlin]

gotcha yea im pretty new world 6

[cobalt rapids]

theres another one called rossiya

[eternal moth]

This is why you limit break your ships; this is for Musashi

[clever marlin]

ooooh okay

[eternal moth]

Umi, do you have the Abercrombie pic showing pew vs pewpewpew?

[clever marlin]

i do not

[clever marlin]

wait i forgot my name isn't umi anymore wow throwback

[summer echo]

what is best character from merit shop?

[eternal moth]

Enty and Hood

[cobalt rapids]

eldridge if u have her retro item

[summer echo]

thank youu

[eternal moth]

Wait, merit, not medal. Um...

[summer echo]

this shop

[eternal moth]

Albacore if you have Flasher and Archerfish, Duke of York if don't have Vanguard, Kawakaze

[summer echo]

i have none of those

[eternal moth]

Otherwise just get bulins

[knotty dome]

dorm gives you morale every 6 minutes. is it known whether the moment it gives you morale is synced for everybody? from what i can tell, for me it doesn't happen on the hour so i'm wondering how it works

[eternal moth]

I'm not sure if DoY is worth it anymore either

[summer echo]

oh i see.. thank uu

[eternal moth]

But yeah, if you got Eldridge's retrofit item, I'd pick her up.

The ships rotate every... day I think?

Yeah, looks like it changes every day

[mellow cape]

Would it be crazy to max a second musashi for cross barrage or do I just retire them

[tranquil saffron]

When a ship is in the dorm do they get the increased 40-50 morale on top of the base 20 or is it flat 40-50

[eternal moth]

Flat 40-50

[tame jungle]

Yes that would be crazy

[little geyser]

donate extras to me plz

[knotty dome]

but think how fast you could strategic search in opsi with 3 optimized crossfleet barrages

[mellow cape]

I have 1 maxed MLB musashi and 4 extras...

[little geyser]

wtf

[mellow cape]

what's even crazier is I didn't even reach the pity exchange yet

I'm 38/200

[eternal moth]

Save all your remaining cubes

[tame jungle]

You can only use 1 musashi in opsi

[knotty dome]

oh the limit isn't per fleet?

[boreal wagon]

outside of opsi it is, in opsi its global

[knotty dome]

huh ok TIL

[mellow cape]

Same

Well I'll let them gather dust then

[tame jungle]

Just retire or use to mlb

Latter if you don’t have a maxed sushi obviously

[eternal moth]

Or keep them and put the different copies in different skins

[tranquil saffron]

What's the best way to grind affinity?
I'm down to 30 morale and only 4 affinity left to grind

I really want to oath Musashi before I go to bed

[barren tapir]

mvp control otherwise that's it

also gotta be over 30 morale to gain affinity

[tranquil saffron]

I know

[barren tapir]

you have 32 fights (64 morale) left to go if she mvps every time, i think

[tranquil saffron]

I have work tomorrow

It's already 12 am

[barren tapir]

64 morale will take 78 minutes

[tame jungle]

Or just do it tomorrow

[tranquil saffron]

Is that with or without 2x?

[barren tapir]

the morale needed is the same regardless but it's without

[little geyser]

Musashi doesn't need an ijn fleet right?

[cobalt rapids]

Whats an infleet

[little geyser]

I meant ijn

[cobalt rapids]

Ohh, no she doesn’t

[soft raft]

None of her skills involve other IJN ships
only IJN Gear (Which can mostly be solved with the main gun)

[little geyser]

Alright thank you

[tulip thorn]

I have 2 Champy guns +13 and a Flandre gun +13
On which ship should i give the Fladre gun?

[desert tapir]

Should I keep farming pr 7 or should I go back for a second gun from pr 5?

[sweet delta]

Soyuz, assuming you're not doing any unequal timing manipulation with autoloading/AFCT/HSFCR

[tulip thorn]

Lemme check.........

[analog bluff]

how i can use her?

[eternal moth]

As fodder to upgrade your other URs

Same as any other bulin

[soft raft]

(I really hope that was a troll question)
you use her as limit break fodder like you would with other Bullins

[analog bluff]

worth?

[eternal moth]

Not if you only have one bulin

[soft raft]

It's either MLB in one go or bust

Also if you have Musashi, she would be higher prio for those bullins compared to NJ

[analog bluff]

or musashi

[analog bluff]

i see

[soft raft]

Either way, wait until you have 4 Bullins
That way you can either MLB a UR in one go, or if a new one comes out that has higher priority, you wont get caught with your pants down with a partially limit broken UR and thus then have to spread your buillins

[analog bluff]

okok i will wait

[eternal moth]

I want more UR CVs, not more BBs

Or, even better, a replacement for Helena

[soft raft]

Helena II

[eternal moth]

I'd settle for someone with a slightly lower buff but it's 100% activation

[sweet delta]

That's called Bristol

[soft raft]

Tell her to make her lantern more consistent, then we'll talk smh my head

[eternal moth]

10% reduced evasion isn't the same as a slightly smaller Helena buff

That said, more support vanguards would be nice; we don't always need a nice shiny new boomstick

[sweet delta]

The joke is that Bristol is 100% activation but worse than 60% consistency

[eternal moth]

oh

[rare wyvern]

Does Volga/Unicorn/Brest comp allow me to replace the toolbox by an offensive aux for mobbing 14-3 ?

[eternal moth]

Typically you just want your vanguard to survive, them killing anything is a bonus

[sweet delta]

Why not just use someone who does more damage than Brest

[rare wyvern]

I do not have that much tanks for that content, only Azuma isn't used here

Ancho and Agir are in my boss fleet

[eternal moth]

I mean, I used Jervis as my tank in 14-3. There isn't a huge amount of vanguard pressure

Do you have Laffey 2?

[rare wyvern]

Nope

[viscid swift]

why do you want to run an offensive aux in the first place

[rare wyvern]

Jervis is somewhere around level 90 now, but I'm trying to put work in a DDG

[rare wyvern]

Damage to kill the mob fleets faster

[viscid swift]

why? should be killing just fine without it

[rare wyvern]

Less time taking bullets is more time alive and a step further to 3 star, maybe if I can do the 3 star before the 100% I would, but alas, I got my answer

[eternal moth]

Or finish the stage and then go back and 3* once it's safe

[viscid swift]

a bigger improvement would be getting Unicorn maxed

and there's no pride in a lethal 3 star

[rare wyvern]

On the way alongside Volga and Brest

[eternal moth]

Get your ships maxed and THEN worry about progression

[viscid swift]

then just wait, there's no rush to clear W14, it's permanent content

[rare wyvern]

That D3 farm dropped me three Wakatsuki

[viscid swift]

ok...

[eternal moth]

#trophy-room is that way

[tiny nebula]

I got 2 copies of musashi back to back, do I keep both of them for different fleets or use one to limit break the other?

[barren tapir]

limitbreak

[barren tapir]

vg dmg isnt gonna shift much with an offensive aux, you'd be better off figuring out a way to make your backline do more dps

[sweet delta]

I heard that leveling ships to 120+ will make them do more dps

[barren tapir]

it would be better to run defense vanguard anyway just for some more consistency

wait are they doing w14 with ships under 120

[sweet delta]

Yesterday their Volga was 117

[barren tapir]

back to w12 with them, then

[rare wyvern]

So far I just cleaned with 125 alternatives but, it be difficult

[storm heron]

[mellow cape]

Is it typical to bring a lvl 100 ship for 13-4? Trying to think of a way to farm it comfortably for coins /exp

[vale spindle]

if its surrounded by properly leveled ships then its fine

if you have really really good ships that are all lvl 100 then it can work with a full fleet, but don't expect an entire vanguard of lvl 100 random shitty blue or purple dds to survive easily

the only way to see if it works for you is to attempt it and see if stuff dies or not

[mellow cape]

Mmm okay okay I'll run some stuff. I made a decent 12-4 farm team and I wonder if I have to change much for 13-4

[vale spindle]

the biggest change is likely retrofit unicorn in the main fleet somewhere

you can healerless w12 but its way harder to healerless w13

[viscid swift]

that would be the minimum

the issue with 13-4 is you have to have to fight 2 nodes out of ammo

that's difficult to consistently do with a fleet with an average level that's around level 100

[viscid swift]

not to mention the presence of repair and command ships which punish lack of damage much harder and the much much higher amount of planes

[mellow cape]

I was using this for 12-4 farming and just slotting in a 2-3 random boats for leveling

[viscid swift]

yeah you are really overestimating how difficult W12 is

[mellow cape]

@-@ really? LOL

[viscid swift]

this more or less represents a typical set up for me

more often I run 2 BB/BCs rather than 2 CVs so I have less AA usually

[mellow cape]

Oh you don't even run a maxed out ship, just editing your fleet for whatever you want to level

[vale spindle]

the minimum requirement for chapter 12 is full fleet mlb lvl 100+, ideally with 1-2cvs in the main fleet

[viscid swift]

And that's the boss fleet

[mellow cape]

I guess I do overestimate how tough 12-4 is

[vale spindle]

worst case you can do 12-1 instead

not much worse than 12-4, and technically better for exp / oil

[bold stream]

Hello all. Is event D1 worth farming at A clears? My first team is boss while second team is mobs.. but boss fight looks ugly with always 1 girl dead and 2 at red

[soft raft]

I swear we've already told you multiple times to not force yourself to do D maps

Esp when your fleets are clearly not good enough for it yet

Yes D maps are the most efficient, but if you're gonna struggle with it, then I don't really see it worth the suffering and time wastage compared to easier maps

[barren tapir]

better for exp not coins

[bold stream]

So A clears are not worth it?

I clear it on auto but on As

[vale spindle]

oh right im dum

[soft raft]

Do like C or B if possible
And if A is really the only one you can safely auto, that

[vale spindle]

the more u clear the stage the easier it gets (up to a cap), also use full fleets cause oil cap

[barren tapir]

is it on safe yet? if not, it's worth dealing with it, safe will likely give you S ranks

[soft raft]

I don't think he's 100% cleared the stage yet

[barren tapir]

im assuming they cant because of the level requirement - i had the same issue in my first event

[vale spindle]

d1 is a lot better than anything below it

[barren tapir]

simply not enough levelled ships to fill 2 fleets fully

[barren tapir]

ye get it down to safe and u will be fine, keep grinding it imo

[bold stream]

Its still lethal? So i have to kill all mobs?

[vale spindle]

yea the more you clear a stage, the threat level reduces

[barren tapir]

just clear it several more times

[vale spindle]

clear = kill boss on B or higher, nothing to do with stars

[bold stream]

Okay! Good! Thanks! Thats a good news.

[vale spindle]

once the stage is on safe, you might be able to do kill all enemies since the stage is easier

[barren tapir]

#trophy-room message (just as an example of the issue i faced lol)

[bold stream]

Thanks for the tip. Thats really new to me.

[bold stream]

You are new like me too! What lv are you rn?

[barren tapir]

that was in late september

[bold stream]

Oh... Not that new but is still newer...

[mellow cape]

Oof 13-4 I was either lacking AA or lacking heals, should I stick in someone like volga?

[viscid swift]

Yeah and that's why 13-4 is not a place you farm while leveling ships

[mellow cape]

Yeahh I just wanted an easy coin farm I might stick to 12-4 for the exp grind

I'll just fill out my fleet for 13-4

[bold stream]

Btw, the newplayer quest asks me to oath someone. Is this ring unique? I see that I can buy one on the shop for 500gems. Does that mean as an f2p, I can only get 2?

[viscid swift]

no

you can expect to get one annually from your region's anniversary and on very rare occasions they will give some out

and of course you can buy as many as you like with gems

[bold stream]

So every 500gems I can buy 1?

Thanks! Got it!

[barren tapir]

600 gems isnt it? with 980 for 2 special occasionally

[storm heron]

yes 600

[bold stream]

Ah, sorry. 600.

[jaunty pecan]

is it me or tempesta as a SS unit looks kinda shit?

[barren tapir]

theyre pretty unviable yes (good for sub weekly tho)

[jaunty pecan]

but as a regular surface unit (vanguard/main) seems kinda... viable?

[storm heron]

only fancy is kinda viable

[barren tapir]

fancy is very solid rest are um.

yeah let's just leave it at "um"

the rest kinda maybe sorta work fine in content without a lot of planes but they're at most nothing particularly special

[jaunty pecan]

alright

and i assume tempesta SS is shit cus they have no stat to tank while surfaced, yet their dmg needs far a lot more time than regular SS torps?

[barren tapir]

yeah they just get blown up

if they didnt have that problem their dps would actually be very good especially on light and decent on medium but. they get blown up really fast in any content you'd actually want subs support in

amity has a niche use of debuffing the enemy i guess

[jaunty pecan]

yeah sounds about right, that was my experience when i tried royal fortune
the moment she surfaced she just disappear

[barren tapir]

tbh i dont think it's just lack of stats, it's also they dont really move at all, and well the vanguard typically avoids a lot of dmg just by being mobile (even if they run into shit on auto).

but having the hp of a dd and eva of a cl while having 0% reduction against plane damage certainly doesn't help

[jaunty pecan]

[weary gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1295839458574340258/screen-20230410-0001232.mp4?ex=673cef0a&is=673b9d8a&hm=3e6ba19da67fc68cb2af28af6f0f72d3beddeca25bfe60f65ce48930898aec21&

My favorite AL video.

[barren tapir]

tbf that was also extremely poor timing, poor royal fortune

[forest palm]

it's like watching a noob play touhou for the first time

[boreal apex]

Can i still claim specialized core from the packaged i buy even tho my specialized core for this month is maxed out?

[blissful hamlet]

should've put her on middle

[forest palm]

changes nothing, a stiff breeze will kill her

[weary gust]

I believe so but not certain

[barren tapir]

she would prolly survive a bit longer if she wasn't timed to surface right into strength's big nuke slam attack thingy... but yeah

[bold stream]

Hello all again. This is so rare? I need to buy this on the medal shop rather than ssr bullin? I have like 10 SSR bullins.

The gold retro carrier..

[ivory pawn]

100 medals is a scam of a price.

[vale spindle]

no don't buy retrofit prints from medal shop

check guild shop, occasionally they have some

[bold stream]

Okay! Thanks!

[vale spindle]

make sure when u farming hard mode its a x-4 stage so it drops carrier prints

[ivory pawn]

They are rare, but medals are much more valuable than that. You can get them by 3*ing post world 3 Hard Mode stages too.
Though that ofc is a limited supply.

[storm heron]

/algen

Blogging goes to #al-general

[south sequoia]

As fybredog stated, any blogging or unrelated gph topic goes to #al-general or #off-topic

[pale wing]

Fine...

[sinful void]

Are there any hidden shipbuilding tickets or cubes 😭😭😭
Completed the event sorties and got all the tickets
Got all weekly cubes
Only 2 days left which leaves me 2 extra cubes aka one pull
Exchanged 10 ship building tickets already
Only 8 pulls left 167+8 = 175 😭😭😭
I’m still on 12-2 bc I’m too lazy to do them so that leaves me 12-2 to 14-4 aka 10 cubes aka 5 pulls 175+5 = 180
No cubes in commissions
ANY HIDDEN CUBES

[weary gust]

There's like 34? ship building tickets in total. 10 come from the point shop, others come from missions.

Cubes are something you get over time, there's no fast source of them besides a credit card.

[sinful void]

I finished all event missions that give shipbuilding tickets and exchanged all point shops imma cry. 😭😭😭

I splurged on gems for skins I’m broke

[plain saffron]

Missions refresh daily

There daily and one time

[sinful void]

I calculated two days left 180 aka 40 cubes left I don’t think I can make it with daily

[fiery raptor]

sortieing a ton also waiting for the commission reset in 30 minutes can tease out some cube expeditions

[plain saffron]

And maybe you'll get her in next few pulls, who knows

[zenith heron]

Sadly doing credit card is worse so Daily Refresh is your best chance, also grind some coins if you will

[fiery raptor]

only take the cube ones

[sinful void]

ok I think imma try this didn’t know that, thanks

[fiery raptor]

I was in your shoes once, brother, I missed out on UvH the first time around. I missed pity by 6 cubes.

[weary gust]

Be active, plan ahead, and know your priorities. If you don't do those things you'll miss out on ships you want as f2p. They'll come back around eventually but you might have to wait a long time.

[sinful void]

i think i prefer death, if its 30 min commisions, then i got 40 hour ish / 30 mins aka 40*2 aka 60 cubes min

[viscid swift]

good news is she will return eventually and you'll be able to get her then

anyway, no use crying over spilt milk, what's happened has happened

[sinful void]

NUH UH IM GETTING HER

[hollow gust]

so u have to get 30 cubes in 2-3 days , have fun doing that without whaling lmao

[viscid swift]

more than that even

[sharp socket]

what pool is collab in, or is it unknown still

[viscid swift]

unknown

[fiery raptor]

we'll find out when event drops

[viscid swift]

actually no probably heavy

[fiery raptor]

is ship type on the build timer the only way to tell or are all events "special banner"

was musashi banner heavy? i wasn't paying attention...
wait warspite spooks. yeah that's heavy.

[viscid swift]

yep

the CV from this event is point accumulation which leavs a BB, BC, CA, CL, and DD as the banner ships

[thorn tartan]

it is hard to hit the pity ship in 1 week

[barren tapir]

good luck but you'll be needing 20 cubes per day

[sharp socket]

how many cubes max should i sink into collab if i have about 660 rn

[barren tapir]

depends on how much you want them...

[viscid swift]

personally, I would go for broke

[weary gust]

I wouldn't go below 400 total cubes, unless the collab ships turn out to be way above average.

[sharp socket]

i just want yami for her skin and if any of them turn out to be busted then maybe the others aswell

[barren tapir]

if you care about them as waifus then no cube amount is too high

from a collectors perspective collab is infinitely more valuable than UR if desired

[fiery raptor]

not many collab ships are lategame picks after all, they end up as dock queens and pvp flexes.
cases like rikka takarada, kala ideas and klaudia valentz are few and far between.

I suppose you could wait for #event-faq channel to pop up with the individual assessments before you seriously commit

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't expect them to be of any particular value, but for a collab that's not relevant for me

[barren tapir]

assuming there is 1 dead week after collab, and UR is 2 weeks, so 3 weeks

if you care about hitting UR pity i would stop collab at about 250ish cubes left

[viscid swift]

these ships have no gurantee of returning and frankly I'd rather not gamble that they will

[wind hazel]

fomo vs 2yr rerun, take your poison

[viscid swift]

just ask anyone who got into hololive/azur lane after said collab ended