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butbutbut the 50% bonus
Anyways, anchorage blue skill is pretty high prio to max
Who cares, you'll have way too many blue books anyways
Better than them collecting dust
taking lower efficiency skilling is better than not skilling
50% bonus is irrelevant when you're wasting 100% of the exp on ships you don't even use
my avp is fs5 btw, still anchorage>avp?
always has been
well, its 50% faster
Ancho actually has a blue skill...
to answer the question tho - anchorage, jda, avp, odin, emden, watarase have non-red skills
yello
So just level them
javelin also
Just use the blue books lol
or do as ender said and use blues on red, it doesnt really matter
There's no point of 50% faster if you're levelling the skills of ships you won't ever use
That's an actual waste of books
i am for these two 
how do i get this up?
ok well anyway either blue some red skills or do one of the ships i put out
the text on the right answers that question
Get your ship to lv10, which is what it says there
anyways ill just bluebook the wolfpack and do avp into anchorage
ok i did it, is it worth using coins now?
10x a day
Which costs just 3k coins
10x on pr and 6x on dr imo
10x PR 10x DR is optimal iirc
eh wouldnt 10x dr cost like 10k
has guild supply been awful lately or was i just lucky before? since about a month or two i basically dont get anything good besides the guaranteed 5x gold plates
just you
feels like the rate of the retro bps was hard nerfed :c
anchorage mentioned
tho i guess most ppl here dont need them anymore
Guild shop is mostly for gold plates
more like after the initial newbie retrofit rush rush rush and advancing to higher hard mode stages things become rather comfy since there's no need to rush and you get them at a steady pace
guild shop can drop coggies too 
ayooo that looks sick, is there any good royal navy ship worth to get this for?
oh wait that avi, forget about it 
Anyone can equip it thats fine
for a second there i thought it was double eva
does Air raid resistances skills stack?
do you mean air raid assistance ?
man,I might be dyslexic,but ye
I dont know if this is the correct channel to ask this but I wanted to buy the monthly pass which should be 8$ buy converted to € it suddenly became 9€ is this for some reason just how the conversion works or is there something I'm missing?
As long as this ship is afloat, increase all damage dealt by all CVs and CVLs in your fleet by 5% (15%). (This skill does not stack with itself or other Air Raid Assistance buffs.)
specified in the skill desc
it's how google sets the regional pricing
is it better to stack triple CVs when fighting Nagato META
yes, the best comp is currently shinano, hakuryuu, amagi
hmm,well I don't have Haku rn so can I replace it with someone like Enterprise?
yes
aight
Roon, Kitakaze, Georgia, FDG, Odin, Agir, Anchorage. And I'm working on getting Hakuryuu. What ship should I get next after Haku? Prinz Rupprecht, Hindenburg or Halford
august
if you can get agir, you can get august
august being one of the most important carriers for CV comps
I already have agir at dev 30
august is a carrier, not a frontline tank
And I already have Implacable so the need for AVP is lowered
Actual torture, but thnx for clarifying
ruppy is not needed in a UR BB meta
halford is looking to be one of the worst PRs in a while (no niche use)
hindy is only strong at d30
Dont go spouting this halford slander
it's not slander if it's objectively a fact gameplay wise
it seems they were trying to make her a discount plymouth
but her skills dont sync
the only thing she has on the strong side is damage
and even then its still a fair bit aways from the best DDs
Or should I turn back and get Cheshire as another CA with good AA
Okay, but let me live in my own little fantasy (I've poured every single resource since ive started playing into getting enough fleet tech points to unlock her and finally got her to dev 30 today)
Going pr7 first 
if you lack guam and laff2 sure, would be a better pick
if you're trying to get Hakuryuu then it is your best interest to develop and finish every other PR4 ships
unfortunately, this is #gameplay-help not fantasy land
#al-general would entertain such notions instead
here we try to be objective
right, disregard this, follow what mori said
Only reason I'm getting Haku is cuz I can dev30 her almost instantly minus the leveling needed. Plus I have Amagi CV and Shinano. AVP can wait cuz I wanna focus on others ship types after
Yeah I know dw, hope she'll get a nice buff when sim inevitably drops in a year
at that point you're just collecting filler ships
Plus I don't have enough AVP BPs
you want to fs5 haku anyways
you can coin her
coin avp*
Even if I do that I still won't have enough equipment and planes to arm them
On hard mode am I supposed to back out of it to stack kills so I can use 1 attempt to 3 star it?
yes, you can do that
Alright sweet thanks
Between saratoga and independence who should i retrofit first?
indep
See the button on the lower right? With on, only an Boss spawns. Off and you can clear mob-fleets
The Clearing Mode-one
Oh tysm
explanation for the wrong question
if you have clearing mode that already takes up more than 1 attempt
usually 3
The question sounded like it was for Clearing Mode, sorry
Just checked in. Curious why Halford is one of the meh pr ships?
her skill set just doesnt make sense
I'll be honest idr her skills lol
ok lets break it down
S1:
When the battle starts, if this ship has Eagle Union gear equipped: increases this ship's AVI by 20.0%. Every 15s: targets a random enemy (humanoid enemies are prioritized) and decreases that enemy's EVA by 10.0% for 6s and launches a Lv.10 seaplane attack (DMG is based on the skill's level). If this seaplane hits the random enemy targeted by this skill: increases that enemy's cannon DMG taken by 8.0% for 6s.
now on paper, this is a pretty good skill - a discount version of plymouth's really
the issue is the timer its on and the reliability

by the bold part of the skill, your enemy takes increased cannon DMG taken every 18s (accounting for 15s + travel time, assuming it hits)
the issue here is that unless you're already using 457s, that's not going to sync up well with BBs
Is this the only skill that is meh or is it all of her skills
the usual champy guns would fire every 20s
so that would fall out of range of the debuff by the 2nd salvo
20-22s, 40-42s, 60-62s
18-24s, 33-39s
S2:
Increases this ship's EVA by 30.0%. If this ship does NOT have a Seaplane equipped: increases this ship's TRP and AA by 15.0%, decreases her DMG taken by 12.0%, and, every 15s, fires a Lv.10 special barrage (DMG is based on the skill's level).
If this ship has a Seaplane equipped, activates the following effects:1) When this ship launches an odd number of airstrikes: deploys a smokescreen (lasts 5s) that increases Evasion Rate by 40.0% for all your ships in it (does not stack with other smokescreen skills);2) When this ship launches an even number of airstrikes: restores 4.0% of this ship's max HP and extinguishes any Burn this ship is afflicted with.
firstly, DDs dont benefit that much from a flat evasion stat buff
secondly, there's almost no reason to use a seaplane for smokescreens when there are other tanks that can also deploy smokescreens
not to mention her smokes only come out once every 2 strikes
It's the odd and even number thing as well isn't it? Like I didn't know they could set off only (eg.) 5 at a time or randomly (eg.) 6 at a time.
the only thing halford has going for her, is the damage from not using a seaplane
her damage is high yes
and thats about it
The odd and even seaplane is odd to me
it feels like they were experimenting here
daisen suffers a similar issue with her weird healing mechanic
Now I really haven't looked at her skills because I don't care for her much (as a waifu)
Is there any other way to get this besides 2000 prototypes
"if the skill plane she launches gets shot down, heals people"
no other way
hence its not a very high prio unless you're pushing w13+
it also doesnt help that her whole stick is supposed to be being able to use an absolutely cracked seaplane but her skills at the same time contradict that
I'm kinda stuck on w11 lmao
Ah okays
iirc that "damage is higher when no seaplane" theory was knocked down a peg with later sim testing
not sure if pilica is still testing practically either
Do events give ur uncap?
UR events give you 1 UR bulin at 30k event points earned
Well that's cool
Ngl the specialized core things are easy to get anyway. Just need to play and do weeklies, etc
regardless, her damage just isnt even that great when compared to other, more easily accessible DDs
Halford is like a BM
just use a DDG at that point if you want DD damage 
big weapon on a terrible vessel
This one is brutal lmao
it's free tho
it ez wdym
that's free yeah
the issue is moreso the montly cap
I havnt been able to win pvp in 3+ days lmao
pick easier opponents then
Exactly. I just have so much that it's kinda just eh. If I'm close to the end of the month I'll wait, but if I'm already over cap for a while I say F it lol
you get 15 pvp chances every day and if you can't beat someone you can quit out of the fight without losing your try
- refreshes
There's plenty people who put weak ships like meme fleets, collab ships, etc
Just steer clear of UR ships and such (since prob a new player or returning player?)(also depends on your fleet to begin with but yeah)
Oh you are gonna get clapped either way , just fight the rightmost fleet and cope
I'm aware it's just everyone is 5k points above me
refresh until you find something beatable and if nothing is beatable idk, i don't know how pvp score works when you lose 
Stays the same lol
Points aren't the way to judge a pvp fleet 
I mean sure but 10k verses 15k does not care
you'll have an easier time once you get strong UR ships or more pvp viable ones. A fleet with that will wreck others that just have a fleet with only strong ships that don't have much synergy in pvp (like people that use Helena for example)
I have UR but you know dem bullians are turbo rare 
Musashi would probably help you out a bit too when she returns next week or so
Yea i got the cubes but not gold atm
you can level UR's to lvl125 without limit breaking even once
and even then they're still good if not better than some SSR's
I'll bet that a 10k fleet can still shit on a 15k fleet 
Oh
there's ships with skills that are really valuable in pvp but not anywhere else
Is that gear correct
fire radar over toolkit
There is no point for that hp box , and it doesn't matter if gear is correct when she is lmb0 and down 80+ levels
I think there's a different issue than the gear atm
otherwise looks fine for poverty equips
but limit break her before you use her
How many bulins can you get
saving bulins for Musashi might be a better idea
Because i think you’re better off getting musashi and using bulins on her than on ulrich
i take that back, just bench her shes outdated by rainbow bb standards
my uvh has been benchwarming my dock since her rerun 
Well she's prolly better then colorado
level ships, do dailies and enjoy game '3')b
the exercises will be easier over time
Power is a useless matrix 
Any advice on how to get luckier with UR gear blueprints from rigging analysis research 
Take more of them
had 4 4 hour ones running yesterday, woke up to 0 blueprints today 
the same way you handle rng stuff, pray
I'll try, ty
Where does Fargo go on the tierlist? 
99% of the researches I take are rigging analysis, I've gotten 1 UR print so far in the entire week
Picking out my next couple of EU vanguards to get to 120 for priority exp, and wondering if she would be good, with Northampton 2 and Cleveland
decent, nothing special, no particular niche
prioritise houston to 120 if you havent
Houston 2?
where does this go
carriers with fighter locked slots, facing med and heavy armour bosses in opsi/meta showdowns (replacement for the BF109G)
if you lack HVAR hellcats, light armour as well
not for campaign
How do I know which position a BB performs better (barrage aside)? Cuz yesterday someone said stuff like some ships will deal more damage in a specific position (although I don't remember who and their exact words)
i believe that was me, and in that context it was vanguards
though you're absolutely right, it can be very critical for BBs in particular
must be because of barrage
there are 2 ways to tell
1 - it says so in the skill itself
Increases this ship's FP and RLD by 15.0%. When this ship equips a Main Gun which uses HE ammo: increases this ship's DMG dealt to Light and Medium Armor enemies by 15.0%. At the start of the battle, if this ship is NOT the Flagship: decreases this ship's Main Gun reload time by 50.0%, but decreases her Main Gun DMG dealt by 45.0%.
all UR BBs, with the exception being Ulrich due to the above mentioned skill
dont really care if they're in flag or not
the other way, as Hikari pointed out, is due to barrages
Oh alr thx
Didn't know the context yesterday was vanguards tho
such as pennsylvania, hood, nelson
Musashi rerun next week?
for the URs, and some SR BBs like Indiana, Constellation, Owari have aimed barrages
300 cubes enough?
I.e, the barrage is targeted on the enemy directly as opposed to directly in front of the ship itself

but how do we know which is which
...well you kinda have to test them, or you can ask here
ideally, a wee bit over 300
you're given around 43 free tickets to roll with
Okk I got it thx
but well, you get at least 168 cubes a month
so a non issue
best case scenario you use 0 cubes
well, that drake is 125 and bayard is 120, both got maxed weapons, drake died a few seconds earlier but anyway, her dps is really last gen standard 
Which elite shipgirls should I get from the guild shop?
unicorn first
then refresh and get helena
I already got those
What does pennsylvania do?
Ohh okay
is peter strasser a good CV or just mid? cause i planning to retire her
mid, but has good lv 120 fleet tech
recommended to get her to 120 first if you need to clear up space
so dont retire her?
you can retire her after you get her to 120
ok
+2 avi to all carriers once she has reached 120
who should i retire to get more space
dolphin, akagi-chan, little bel, whydah, adventure galley, portsmouth adventure, kashino are all safe to retire
Is nakhimov only good if paired with soyuz?
baltimore muse is safe to retire
no, there are other NP slowers like tashkent and voroshilov
ok thanks
kashino is not good?
kashino, as with all muniton ships are garbage
kashino is great as a skin display in secretary slot
i see
however not much practical use
isnt chiyoda in a low tier
chiyoda has +1 CV avi tech
oh
Wut recommended other 4 ships for her fleet without soyuz?
is getting shinano a wise option?
the best possible option
ok thanks 🙏
For light, nakhi > implacable?
nakhi herself is the freezer after all
and she has the exact same loadout as impla
3 fighter, 3 tb, 3 flex slot
I know I just came back to AL last week but what is this gauge bar?
wth did i miss for 6 months?
cv strong when its empty, cv normal when its full
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Combat#Detection_Gauge
for more info you can refer to this bit
and detection gauge has been around for about 2 years already
Naruhodo but i never notice it
For the other NP slow, better tash or voro?
tash needs her unique aug to work as a slower for any battles over 50s
tash does more, voro is tankier
whats the better seaplane?
Suisei or Bear
oh yeah there's that too
Any Iris libre that I can get?
D30 saint louis should give you enough
Can Nakhi enter Hakuryu, Shinano, Amagi CV fleet by replacing one of them? Or they already the best?
haku nano amagi isnt even a good fleet for quite a few scenarios
there's no slower/freezer there
for any opsi/meta boss that so much as moves, you're gonna miss your torp bombers
if you know your boss isnt gonna move much however, or you're willing to gamble the overall higher damage potential with the potential of misses, yeah, the triple sakura CV comp works better
thats why it's ideal for nagato meta
She's dev 20 
Hello, do we have a break of a week before the next event?
this IS our week of break
Coin up then
Musashi rerun next week
Thanks! I am planning to jump servers to start anew before the next event. Just started about a week ago. And I think I know better now..
how far have you gotten in that week?
I am at 5-4 can but very low on oil. I think i have limit broken my ships too early and scattered my levels.
and is that the reason why you want to switch?
you are meant to limit break ships early
you are meant to only build 1 fleet of 6 ships initially
Hnnn.. yes. Because I think I can start better now?
Just keep going on this account 
But wanna play and I am always out off oil to play...
Then wait
starting anew will not fix how limited oil is early on
I mean, i know its a problem now... But I run like 60 oil cost team early
well, there's your issue
thats an issue with using high rarity units early on
not with limit breaking them early on
that is a very easily fixable issue
Yeah, thars why i thought i can do better now
Just Wait Bro
Could someone review the ships i have and try to form a fleet for Project Siren and just general mapping?
And then what if you’re out of oil on the other account too?
You’ll just be making new accounts one after the other and you’ll never get past chapter 6
Ah, maybe use both then after?
no just stick to the account you have
and instead switch around what ships you have
it's your decision to make, but you can learn from what you've done now and try to make more oil efficient fleets for farming and focus on getting your sources of oil upgraded
sure
Being out of oil is a good chance to do something more productive too
Okay i guess.. i have like 40 cubes still
I'll create a thread!
yes please
What productive things to do?
That’s your life
why, touching grass of course
AL early on is a waiting game
Ah, got none.. ahahahhaa
Ships + Advice
Exactly
so a win-win
this is a resource managment game disguised as a gacha game
Will
Have
A
Lucky
Encounter
trust
and the game doesnt frontload you with enough resources
for "rerolling" or starting a new acct to be worth
agreed, no point in rerolling
Yeah, thats why i said wanna start anew to manage my starting resources better. I do not really mean rerolling since I have plenty of cubes left.. just well... I ruined my early game resources
just need enough time ~or money
You didn’t
I didnt?
A real waste would be throwing your time and spent resources away by starting over for no reason
Because realistically you’re just gonna have to spend those again to get to the same point you’re at
also whaling isnt a must tbh - just pull wisely and save
Imagine you start a new account and spend a week on that, you’ll be at 5-4 again while instead you could’ve been at like 8-4 with your old account + you saved up a bunch of cubes for the Musashi rerun
I know what i’d choose at least
Ah, I see what mean then.
TL;DR is dont bother rerolling
it's a dead week now, nothing to reroll for tbh
Like I said its not really rerolling...
as long as you start managing resources better from now on you'll catch up
you'll do more than just catch up
When i started its like the ending week of an event.. and been stuck with the event. I think I can enjoy the base game now without the event
event has 2 modes, do the normal mode and get some points, you will be fine
I was only able to do until the third map.
then with a week of improving your fleet you'll be able to do the musashi event map probably
like i said it's a dead week now, and the next event is a UR rerun, you have more than enough time to prepare your fleet for normal mode
normal mode enemies are only like max lv60 for the event anyway, you'll breeze through them with ease
Okay thank you
sup mogs
is it worth using Jervis in later maps like w13 and after
jervis is semi decent in w14 since her asw prowess is excellent
but is she the best choice? far from it
definitely one of the better ones tho
the DDs i use regularly is my DDGs , Shimakaze, Z23, Z47 and Laffey
pretty sure ASW isn't the main reason you picked Jervis
asw + tank
i mean, you were around for eld retro item no?
why not raise her instead?
eld retro is like the 2nd best DD for w14/15
Eldridge? yea i have her retrofitted say for her lv90 one
instead of raising jervis, eld may be the better option
i ran out of parts to complete her lv90 tactical learning
15th the stream means 21st the collab, right?
then that shd be your prio
probably
instead of like, raising jervis
i dont think jervis does anything better than eld at least
it's rare for streams to be over a week before event
There is a stream the 15th of November?
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JP stream but yes
I see
why haruna....
ask devs
thats not even haruna tho
her VA is in stream
i chose Jervis cuz i other than Javelin and Jervis i dont have any other RN DD that i can use
why must you use a HMS DD?
eww faction fleet
ever heard of needing vanguard ships for research...
use their CLs
use something that's not a DD
HMS has an abundance of good CLs
or you know, just give up on research while pushing progression
i only readied Belfast, Edinburgh and Dido
Haruna Sairenji? One of the mains and probably ssr?
ah
well do consider she actually did ||end up with rito, alone||

sirius? aurora?
all lv1
then those are the ones you shd work on
i mean she does not even have a role in darkness
just like a ghost floating there in the series
yahagi also voices kinu but sure
The author intentionally made no winners of any of them 
there is in the manga, anime had no winner yes
just do your research afterwards
dont mix up your ends for the means
smh not doing corpse dragging
your goal shd be raising useful ships while doing research
it's the same thing as when we tell folks don't try to do leveling when pushing
not using ships you happen to have raised
sirius and aurora are far more valuable thanks to opsi and meta
and ofc i didnt even include the limited scylla
or neppy who just got a substantial buff
scylla.. yea i got her at lv1
do 14 with actually good ships then go back to 12 for leveling and research
arguably still better than that guy who absolutely refuses to use unicorn kek
Neptune, the collab-one?
pr1
this gremlin in the emote
I would have been quit surprised if the collab-one got buffed ^^`
i lack bulins
i wouldnt put too much hope into that tbh
How long do Reruns of UR events usually last?
How does Dido perform now,though?
so your bulins... went into jervis instead?
almost all event reruns last a week now
Oh ok thanks
the aug helped her a lot, but scylla is just better than her as a DPS, and Sirius CV support prowess is unparalleled
about as well as she was added, which is meh
no. they went into Amity lmao. i only have one gold bulin left
even with the augment she's meh

lol amity
thats even worse
gg
come i clap for you moment
just stay in 12 to level shit and research then, forget about 14
what nnt said
w14 is a different ball game not just any waifu can cut it there
you don't even sound like you're trying to prepare for 14 at all why bother
Imagine caring about chapter 14 and above
I don't because it's already cleared
i dont because i still grinding opsi
welp. back to w12 it is
i don't because focusing pr grind with shitters
well nowadays it's just 12-1 until I'm out of chips, until I seriously want to push cmdlv again
lv150 cmd pack when
unironically useless to me even if they added one
what if they gave gold plate
depends on amount
I have to hold back to not ASK about all that many ships in term of usefulness.
Is the community-Tierlist up to Date enough to use instead?
yes
ECTL is in a need of update i would say...
in the sense of newer ships not being tiered yet
it's just the few recent events that haven't been added but they're still good for most things up
but otherwise well everything else - yeah no issue
Yeah, i saw a few newer ones Missing.
just note its heavily campaigned focused
+sorted alphabetically within each tier
not like the game's late campaign meta has changed any much over the past year or so
Thats fine. Need to Finish that one anyway
Eldridge retrofit good for 14+, Laffey II and Guam good for 15 and 13H, basically everything else has been static for past year
i did one run of 13-1 to see whats up and half the fleet was close to death
Damn this map got hands
you do need AA for 13 yes
i regret missing Guam and Laffey2
I have a sandy, i consider raising montpelier too now
13 is significantly easier once you get around to knowing your AA and carriers
My things are here #1289917108368707689 message
Can we level UR past lv 70 without limit breaking?
yes but they are really weak
For a new player like hutten is very strong tho...
not at 0lb
and with no limit breaks she is really bad
Ah? Really..? Her skills proc even on the second fleet
that proc is always weak
Kinda okay for new players only i guess?
no
Ah? She is my best ship
uvh is doing like 1/3rd of her dmg, maybe even less
mlb or bust
average modern gold BBs would be much stronger
Where can even get the ur bullins?
Wait let me finish fight so I can show you my deck
Most will be from the Specialized Core shop.
There’s also the Cruise Mission 100 reward, and a freebie for doing some missions in the events tab for new players.
Thank you! I will look for those
Okay I see them. Kinda far but I think I can get them all. Thank you.
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
Have you read this
This is exactly what we meant earlier by lower rarity ships are better early on
Yeah, thats bad. I am trapped. She is highest lvl ship at lv 70.
I still have like 60+ cubes...

Try to get ssr BB?
0LB UR BB is a lot better than most starting BB but ridiculously expensive. UvH however is probably one of the worst choices amongst them.
I guess I have to stop using her
You should at a minimum probably stop investing resources in her. (Ie xp books)
Pure garbage
You should just focus on 1 Ulrich
Dont use Bismark, use Enterprise/Hood instead
use nelson, unicorn and saratoga as your backline
thats the best you have
and yeah, regular bismarck is shit
why those ships
well not only are they stronger than what you are using currently
they're lower rarity, meaning they're easier to limit break and reach their max potential
which is higher than the partially or no limit broken SR/URs
Two uvh...
Once again terror is garbage
As an additional comment, when Erebus is mentioned I just think about "oil efficiency", not "good ship". Erebus has (or had, since oil limits exist now) only one use, she isn't used for game progression or anything like that. Personally though, I think you should just use Nelson, Unicorn and Saratoga as Ender mentioned. You might find Erebus useful later but as of right now you probably have no reason to use her.
what foxy said
erebus/terror only seems stronger than warspite since their skill barrage isnt reliant on their limit breaks
Best thing to get level 13 here? Got enough resources from opsi
the admiralty fire control table
also huge disclaimer - dont partially upgrade your stuff past +10
either you get them to
Cheers, was thinking that too
+13 or leave them at 10
Ah gotcha, any particular reason? Or is it just a waste of resources
because the gains from +10 to +12 is smaller than the one from +12 to +13
also - rainbow gear in general is just usually not a good choice to upgrade past +10
I see, thanks for that. The more you know
the exceptions being this
and the skyraider from yorktown 2 event
they cost thrice the amount of resources of +13-ing a gold gear
so usually you get far more impact from +13-ing the many gold gear you end up using
this is especially so for carriers
since the HVAR Hellcat, the BF109G, and all 4 converging torp bombers are all gold rarity
Got it, didn't know any of that. Thanks I'll keep that in mind when leveling stuff in the future 
well what's been done cant be undone but ye
going back to your initial question, the control table
it's considered high prio to +13 too
Will do that right now
I need 2 teams tho? Or is there a way I can run my ships without ammo?
you can run them without ammo they just do half damage
you don't need to do anything special
I see... So I can roll with 6 ships only...
That's not true for auxes...
For now, yes.
Things might change for you later on as you progress, but right now you can just use these ships Ender recommended.
Okay. I did not know that. Thank you ender, foxy, nubi
i didn't do anything 
You being nube is good enough 
wholesome gph moment
Are any of these worth doing?
chessboard for KMS tech, otherwise basically just collection
Oki thank you
The basically, "im bored and got nothing to do anymore"
nelson's good? didn't know
Nelson has a solid retrofit that's good up through midgame
nelson has a pretty strong retrofit, which turns her into one of the better gold BBs
it's no UR sure but, it's still darn good for how accessible it is
she's relevant for longer than hood
well, still not on level of NJ and UVH right?
^ofc
URs are on another level
not gonna change it then
So there's none of the other gear worth getting right?
99% of the gear there is avaliable from other sources
Most importantly, in immideiately useable copies via tech crates
Ah I see I didn't think about it like that thank you 🙂🙏
rainbows aren't better if they're not LB'd though
Im sure i know the answer, but is there a way to make Curocoa and Curlew viable?
all are one start short save ofr UVH who's 2
chat are the to love ru collab characters good
yea
wrong chat
we dont even have any info on who we're gonna get
my bad, should've asked on #pvp
not for any serious use for pushing difficult content
more like go meme in #al-general 
@blissful hamlet
Too boring
whatever it is it's not gph material
I mean I really don't know what to tell you, we know nothing about the collab other than it's coming and this isn't WoWs where I have something I can base potential kits on
I know who 2 of the VAs will be
Collab characters usually have their uses, but it's better to keep speculations out so no one gets confused. It's too soon to judge anything as none of the characters were released. 👍
collab characters nowadays toe the line of usable on the good side
but we won't have details until actual datamine
livestream is next friday right?
Guessed as much. Collection then, and waifu-material. Thank you
No news on any livestream yet
Yes. Friday, November 15. Live in 6 days.
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more like 6 days and 20 hours but yeh
literally just open the fucking video and it gives you the estimated time for you locally
we'll make the channel for the stream soon
as soon as res finishes reading the manga
isn't that syan's job
I just found this website is it accurate?
if you read the tiering guidelines it's good enough
Also with the gear that's listed?
again read the guidelines and descriptions
Oki thank you
Yes, and resets every year on anni
bros been backreading
what armour is arby this month? i havent started on opsi
medium
As cheeky mentioned, it is good assuming you read the guidelines.
I personally prefer that people ask their questions instead of relying on tier lists of any kind. Usage scenarios are a thing.
There’s scenarios where you need 1 Mogador gun and 2 100mm Kai? Or is just 1 of each gun enough?
You can use more in campaign
In single boss battles one each is almost always enough
One for a DD and one for a CB 

I have used triple DD guns a for a boss for only one occasion
Is the T4 Techboxes worth buying?
only if 90% discount
Why not 80%
I only buy them when I'm coin capped, but yes, agree with the above.
or around that idr the exact value
There is none
Ohh, I didn't even know the discount could go that low
it can't?
What?
Buy at whatever discount seems reasonable, I guess most people would recommend 90% discounted to new players . 80% maybe
Oh, Alright then
Nagami is just confused
No I'm asking is it possible or not. Bcs it sounds like suchi said it's not possible
I didn't say that
suchi said “There is none”
Idk, at least to me it does
This refers to the existence of an exact discount value where it becomes "worth" to buy. But there's no hard rule for how many coins a T4 box is worth
and then there was none
Who's none
personally I wouldn't really ever
I aim at the point where I wouldn’t buy it even with a 100% discount 
too much RNG in getting something useful not to mention the abundance of other ways to get tech boxes these days
I guess depends if you're desperate or not
Desperate for a repair rig
Let's make it simple:
If you have the coins and don't need them but you need anything from the boxes, then sure, get them.
If you are coin capped, get them.
Otherwise, I don't know. I wouldn't.
The discount is a plus.
Would you also ask Sam to remove gold tech packs from event shop priority
whos sam
I would ask Sam how his day was
Sam might be dead
I can't, that's his part. I only touch datamined part
I killed him bcs he didn't remove the gold boxes
Technically I didn't even touch it's all my bot
Is san Diego worth retrofitting and is she good with guam?
Yes
She's good with anyone
-worth
it’s very expensive
good on her own
eventually yes and she doesn't necessarily have any reason to be sortied with Guam but both are good ships
Nice thank you
Is it worth it to craft the light armor type torpedoes for w15-1 cause I noticed light armored enemies are common in there
-worth
I wouldn’t say so
I never felt the need to use them
Hmm
Because gold tech from the event shop is effectively 6000 coins for 5 boxes, which is a 76% discount
You could if u want, I made one and use them for a good one time
I +13d one and then improved quad mag appeared
improved quad mag
Improved quad mag is always better.
Quad mag is better than the Iris torp against medium and heavy
What's improved quad mag?
event limited mag torp
/wiki improved quadruple
Ok so, I'm on 13-1 and I'm getting absolutely railed compared to 12-4, how do I go about beating this? I'm primarily getting swarmed with planes
Try again in 2026
AA, double carrier in every fleet
That's how I survived world 13, I don't know other's way
Need more AA, carriers. San Diego time, she makes it a lot easier.
first of all what's your fleets
One sec
Musashi helps too, I had triple BB fighting 13-4 boss, Musashi took it all 🥵
Anyway should I still craft the gold normal quad mag
I beat 13-4 lethal with sextuple BB/BC so it's just about having the right gear (but of course more good carriers is better than more good BBs up to 4 or 5)
I still use normal quad mag and I have no idea who has the improved one. If you need them, then get them. They just work.
If you don't have any outstanding Mark VIII to convert into Bidder then use the mats on a few quad mags
Mark vIII??
prerequisite to bidder
Sorry what even is that
I just kinda ran meat head ooga booga, and put the highest level ships I had and hoped for the best 😭😭😭
where is unicorn
yeah ooga booga doesnt work past w12
/wiki mark viii t
there's no semblance of AA on any of the vanguards, and not enough carriers in the backline to make up for it
I noticed 😓
this is also assuming your gear is at minimum, poverty standard
so pure level 125 fleets with zero fleet building doesn't work in 13
I doubt that
I'm ngl I just kinda put gold gear at enhance 10 on everything
gold gear is not always good
So bidder torp is best for subs?
generally
All this time I am using the G7e
Ik I just don't know how to tell which ones are good and which ones aren't
do /equip in #bot-spam
g7e is also decent but to maximize the damage output you want very high reload on your subs
is it worth to craft gold quad torps from gearlab?
try get them from gold tech boxes
cant seem to get 1 even after like 100 boxes
If we are comparing it to crafting the rainbow quint mag torp, then yes, the quad mag is more worth it.
But you can get them from the tech boxes too, so there's that.
we're not comparing it to the quint
if you really can't get any from gold boxes then sure craft a few
in my experience the materials aren't that scarce anyway (at least not compared to gold electronics)
aight thanks
don't craft more than you need (general advice for gear lab as well)
Especially when you can get that gear from other sources, yes.
Any etas for yk2 rerun?
nope
We JUST get Musashi 
💀
🔮
estimate? like 3 months
If it's not official or leaked then it didn't happen and there's no ETA.
Order is switched, no Hipper 2.0 for you yet
idk i just stole this from blaster
Now all I gotta do is pray yk2 reruns on a holiday week
Blücher is probably next, they need something to prevent 3 UR in a row
After I get this and the other shell is there anything else I should prioritize getting from this shop?
/coredata
Ooh thank you I didn't know this existed
3 whit shells, 1-2 black shells, 0-1 ddg stuff, 0/3 ss stuff, 2-3 cv timing stuff
you dropped this sir: e
Earliest would be December, latest I would peg at February or March
Is there a thing like that for this shop too?
Don't expect it in 2024
/protocore
Thank you
If it's like last year, the UR drops in january following the old UR followed by feb's UR 
4 URs like that...
YkII robably Jan. next year, just like uvh, they probably fixed the pace with 4 new ur events and 4 reruns in one year now
In order to prevent the waiting time for a ur longer and longer...
(4 new UR events with 6 UR
)
I already have invested a lil bit into this I have 15/50 should I keep going with it or focus the plane
yea maybe 2 of 4 are double ur events
focus the plane
Alright thank you
2 5 9 12 for new urs, 1 4 7 11 for reruns
Which Napoli deal more DPS than Brest?
Running a Siren fleet for fast auto clearing including fortress
I think that I either replace Napoli or Hinden with Brest
do you have Alsace?
But don't know if it will lessen the clearing speed
if you really want to go for fast clearing you'd use Unicorn plus 2 early load CVs like Luna, Impero, Akagi Muse, Amagi CV, etc
I think for just pure speed I think Alsace instead of Perseus and Brest instead of Napoli will clear faster. I might be wrong but Alsace's debuff could help in faster clear times
I also need fast clearing for boss mobs in Siren Fortress and tried all early CVs but sometimes defeated
a good CV might be better than Champagne yeah
and for mobbing I think NJ's barrage is more valuable than UVH
What CV maybe fast for clearing and also deal decent damage to boss fleets?
^
why cant i put agir in the dorm?
Thanks for the advice guys. Will try replacing Champ with CV and also trying Alsace.
you should be able to?
do you have any filters enabled or smth in dorm
or do you have her on the first/second floor already
(or just restart game)
Do you get any error messages?
nvm i restarted the game now it works
gg
In terms of rewards, how worth are the strongholds in opsi?
Very
right after arbi and c5/c6 abysalls
Oh well...time to start doing it again
Especially the 300 credits node
I got too lazy in the past...."few months"
if you don't like them then try making a fleet that can auto clear the whole stage
Except that, what other things there are?
hella opsi coins
gold plates most importantly
Gold plates and gear lab mats
Quite a few of them too
like 2-3 meowficer spots which have the chance to give something like rainbow stuff
What if i do it just for the gold plates? Is it still worth?
I can buy everything in the shop every month without strongholds
yea its worth it just for goldplates alone
u can never have enough gold plates
You can still buythem and get them from the nodes 
Mhhhh how many bosses there are?
4 normal 1 retake 1 final
Just set it autosearch with your mob fleet and call it a day
4 + 1 + 1 = 6 
10.47 gold plates per stronghold
So i can get 6 to 14 plates for stronghold?
This. It doesn't matter at all how many are there.
see above u 
Not including cats
Got a few of those...
What +13 gear you have?
plenty of things to spend them on
Weird flex but ok
Just kidding, nice. Should spend them though.
Just getting converging planes to +13 will clean out your stock
You know that feeling when you dont want to "waste" the resources so u keep them until the end of the time? Thats me with everything
Idk too which gears i should +13
/plus13

is it worth it to use these for agir?
PR4 ones sure, 5 and higher I'd at least save them for their own seasons
ok thanks
Guys, do we have flood damage (DoT) equation?
Wondering if AVI and slot efficiency affect flood dmg
If I want to upgrade the SAB2C Helldiver with something from the gear lab I want the XTB2D-1 Skypirate right?
Sorry I'm away from my PC atm and I can't get the guide to format right for my cellphone.
skypirate isnt worth the mats
and neither is the other path into goldiver worth it
The upgrade for helldiver is tenrai
new player, which one should i pick
they are all tech so any RLD u want
doesn't really matter because they're all shit and you won't be able to afford to upgrade them
Fusou is hottest. Get her.
i recommend not buying their mlb crystals and just raise em in dorm for rld tech instead 
but later when ure tech farming not if ure new
None of them are particularly great if you want to progress in the game. Only get them for collection purposes when you are an established player, or get whichever you prefer now (doesn't matter).
They are Elites, elites!
You’re elite 🥰
About to get Tallin. Is she good?
Finally leveling my Hindenburg, the fleet she's in has Cheshire for AA, so will it be better to give her a third a second normal gun over an AA? Or should she have one gun, one torpedo, and one AA on principle?
she's okay
there's no point to running Hindenburg with an AA gun, basically a worse Drake at that point
AA gun hindenburg defeats the whole point of hindenburg
Kinda figured but theres always good odd I don't actually understand what I'm doing. Thanks peoples
So it looks like the spare guns I have laying around are twin 203 sk, proto twin 234 main gun mount, twin 203 naval gun mount, and twin 203 Mle 1931. Anything else would have to be pulled from the opsi teams.
Should I use one of these or pull from opsi?
Edit: this is for the secondary gun mount. Primary is a triple 234mm.
The only upgrade from OpSi would be another Drake gun
If you're just leveling her, any one of those will do
u wont use any of them for anything beyond as ppl mentioned rld tech, however it's worth noting fusou does have a (very weak) crossfleet barrage iirc, which has...a tiny bit of use, potentially, when you don't have anything else crossfleet-wise
Related distantly to my first question. Does Napoli want anything special for her second gun? She's joining the leveling fleet as well but if she wants anything specific in the long run I can try and start working on it.
not really
(do keep in mind RLD tech isn't so important for a new player and there are probably other better ships they could put in dorm instead, but yes)
just the usual strong CL secondary
(also, even when you reach w12+ and begin caring about tech, you'd focus on main faction tech first since that also unlocks research ships)
Can I swap people in project siren? I set my team when it unlocked and got a lot of new peeps since then
Oh nice thanks
yes, there is apparently a gif for this
which i only discovered yesterday
in #al-general of all places
i love it
It's wonderful
after next maint
maint on the same day as always
Idk where I got this from but is it better than the purple hellcat?
if its a rainbow sakura dive bomber its better yes 
uh what is "this"
there be no image
yes its better
Well yes gold is better than its purple version
its not a rainbow sakura dive bomber
i en-ed
Is there a way to abadon this? It is impossible lol
Yes, beat her
it expires tomorrow
press auto deploy
auto deploy 
it'll be done in like 15 mins
someone didnt put a meta ship in the fleet against qe meta it seems
first time i see how the auto deploy works too 
I have a meta in team she's level 97 though
p
From the battle pass
I realized that I don't have enough adaptability and didn't unlock strength
so here's Ark Royal META with CVs that are mid at medium, including a zero-assault ark royal
given how meh houshou meta is
Yeah not how you one shot QE META
ure fast
La-9 crack?
maybe even double la9 crack
that would explain why chkalov and ark did so little
Ark Royal is medium armor
ark is one of the higher DPS CVs after all 
But how many of them should i +13?
Like if i have 4 copies of 406mm should i +13 3 of them or all 4?
oh you mean the battle was arkM?
Yes
it depends on how many you're actively using
At max you want 3 +13 Champagne guns
you usually only need 3 champagne guns so you shd only want 3 of them at +13
Variety is a spice of timing, so I would recommend 2 champ plus a flandre and maybe a soyuz
if you need more, just swap
you cant use more than 3 at a time after all
i personally have 2x +13 champy and 1x +13 soyuz
planning one +13 izumo gun too
If ur izumo gun isn't past 10 yet then choose daisen gun
I would agree
to sync with 457?
Too many names wait
Im dumbdumb
No to get off 4 salvos in META fights
the all-knowing redditors would disagree
3 20s ap bb gun ( champy/flandre )
2-3 mk7
1(2) skyraider
2-3 conv tb each
3-4 rocket fighters ( hvar/la-9)
2 tenrais
3 quadmags(+improved)
2 sextuples
4 ur aa guns
4 salvos off means 457 timing usually no?
Champ gun is 4 salvos
Nope daisen gun is 2 sec slower than 457 and Musashi herself is pretty slow
yet
tf kinda rld tech is that
Max and on the faster BBs without jamming
For zwei anyway
I mean izumo gun with autoloader will also be too slow for you then...
i usually get 3 off to begin with
With daisen gun you'll at least get part of a 4th Salvo off
Daisen gun is better, ggez
i only get 4 with a 457
Plus you don't have to scuff her auxes with an autoloader
someone was supposed to make one
https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/calculator/ play with gear and press syncview on this tool
Just copying to list what i need
1 20s ap bb gun ( champy/flandre )
0-1 mk7
1(2) skyraider
2-3 conv tb each ❓
3-4 rocket fighters ( hvar/la-9) (can craft 5 hvar,but idk what the la-9 is)
3 quadmags(+improved)
2 sextuples
is this a shopping list?
Yes
@atomic abyss continuing from what i left last night and tested nagato meta, bayard still doing 135% of mainz damage, everyone was almost at full hp all the time so basically no damage buff for bayard. and she still did more than lv125 drake, pin me if you want the screenshot
i think it's solid enough to say CM boss is off and we should not test on them anymore
can craft 5hvar is crazy
in harby battle, what would i want the firing order for vanny,bis2, and alsace to be?
let me get the numbers
conv tb means saiun, ju-87 d4, ryuusei and vit2 ( mode change )
1 457 +13 is nice for campaign but i think ure done with that part
and then theres subs and auxes left 
which for aux is 3 white shells, 3 ( tables + hpfcr ), 1-2 black shells, 6 steam cata, 2 timing cv aux each, 1-2 rudders and then the remaining vang auxes u might be using like goldburn/manjuu and stuff
also vang guns is 1 +13 ply > 1 +13 mog gun > 1 +13 guam gun > the rainbow ca guns
does mainz not have any synced timing with scorpios +60% dmg poison ?
what paper
toilet paper

and thats based on gunnery alone
bayard barrage shd do more than mainz
hmm
maybe i'll test on helmet
brb
What’s bayard’s barrage like? It’s pretty spread isn’t it?
CN model target is lv126, 75 eva 25 luck, ships are all lv125 100aff, double survival auxes, full tech bonus, weapons at +13, dps order is L, M, H
bayard with quad 152: 1293.8, 1189, 1125.8
mainz with quad 152: 921.5, 789.6, 681.3
4 steam cata
2 timing cv aux each (is it the purple one?)
1 +13 guam gun
And all of these UR ca guns?
i would do 1 more hindy gun and thats it
hindy can use unzen for light + drake and hindy + drake for the others
beacon and these
how to i get this team to farm 12 1? i need xp for fdg
limit break em
and change the frontline
alsace should alr be carrying
you dont need german frontliners to farm exp for fdg
2 of the ships in the main fleet don't count
alvitr is german no?
SMS doesnt count ?
oh, right thought it was Strass 
and the other is lutzow who is also german








