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sharp socket
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have you crafted up your purple red books

unique lantern
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butbutbut the 50% bonus

atomic abyss
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Anyways, anchorage blue skill is pretty high prio to max

unique lantern
atomic abyss
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Better than them collecting dust

sharp socket
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taking lower efficiency skilling is better than not skilling

atomic abyss
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50% bonus is irrelevant when you're wasting 100% of the exp on ships you don't even use

unique lantern
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my avp is fs5 btw, still anchorage>avp?

sweet delta
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always has been

unique lantern
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well, its 50% faster

atomic abyss
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Ancho actually has a blue skill...

barren tapir
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to answer the question tho - anchorage, jda, avp, odin, emden, watarase have non-red skills

unique lantern
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yello

atomic abyss
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So just level them

barren tapir
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javelin also

atomic abyss
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Just use the blue books lol

barren tapir
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or do as ender said and use blues on red, it doesnt really matter

atomic abyss
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That's an actual waste of books

unique lantern
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i am for these two Glowow

glad folio
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how do i get this up?

barren tapir
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ok well anyway either blue some red skills or do one of the ships i put out

unique lantern
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the text on the right answers that question

atomic abyss
unique lantern
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anyways ill just bluebook the wolfpack and do avp into anchorage

glad folio
atomic abyss
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Which costs just 3k coins

unique lantern
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10x on pr and 6x on dr imo

sharp socket
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10x PR 10x DR is optimal iirc

unique lantern
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eh wouldnt 10x dr cost like 10k

sharp socket
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7200

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  • PR 10x its 10k coins a day
unique lantern
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has guild supply been awful lately or was i just lucky before? since about a month or two i basically dont get anything good besides the guaranteed 5x gold plates

wind hazel
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just you

barren tapir
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rng 🔮

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just view bad shops as an excuse to upgrade guild bonuses like dock/etc

unique lantern
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feels like the rate of the retro bps was hard nerfed :c

slow fox
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anchorage mentioned

unique lantern
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tho i guess most ppl here dont need them anymore

atomic abyss
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Guild shop is mostly for gold plates

barren tapir
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more like after the initial newbie retrofit rush rush rush and advancing to higher hard mode stages things become rather comfy since there's no need to rush and you get them at a steady pace

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guild shop can drop coggies too Blessex

unique lantern
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ayooo that looks sick, is there any good royal navy ship worth to get this for?

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oh wait that avi, forget about it PortDoll

south sequoia
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Anyone can equip it thats fine

unique lantern
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for a second there i thought it was double eva

muted ember
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does Air raid resistances skills stack?

atomic abyss
muted ember
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man,I might be dyslexic,but ye

gaunt bison
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I dont know if this is the correct channel to ask this but I wanted to buy the monthly pass which should be 8$ buy converted to € it suddenly became 9€ is this for some reason just how the conversion works or is there something I'm missing?

atomic abyss
# muted ember man,I might be dyslexic,but ye

As long as this ship is afloat, increase all damage dealt by all CVs and CVLs in your fleet by 5% (15%). (This skill does not stack with itself or other Air Raid Assistance buffs.)

specified in the skill desc

atomic abyss
muted ember
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is it better to stack triple CVs when fighting Nagato META

atomic abyss
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yes, the best comp is currently shinano, hakuryuu, amagi

muted ember
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hmm,well I don't have Haku rn so can I replace it with someone like Enterprise?

atomic abyss
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yes

muted ember
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aight

wary timber
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Roon, Kitakaze, Georgia, FDG, Odin, Agir, Anchorage. And I'm working on getting Hakuryuu. What ship should I get next after Haku? Prinz Rupprecht, Hindenburg or Halford

atomic abyss
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august

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if you can get agir, you can get august

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august being one of the most important carriers for CV comps

wary timber
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I already have agir at dev 30

atomic abyss
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august is a carrier, not a frontline tank

wary timber
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And I already have Implacable so the need for AVP is lowered

gaunt bison
atomic abyss
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ruppy is not needed in a UR BB meta

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halford is looking to be one of the worst PRs in a while (no niche use)

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hindy is only strong at d30

gaunt bison
atomic abyss
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it's not slander if it's objectively a fact gameplay wise

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it seems they were trying to make her a discount plymouth

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but her skills dont sync

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the only thing she has on the strong side is damage
and even then its still a fair bit aways from the best DDs

wary timber
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Or should I turn back and get Cheshire as another CA with good AA

gaunt bison
hollow gust
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Going pr7 first FumizukiCross

atomic abyss
wind hazel
atomic abyss
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here we try to be objective

atomic abyss
wary timber
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Only reason I'm getting Haku is cuz I can dev30 her almost instantly minus the leveling needed. Plus I have Amagi CV and Shinano. AVP can wait cuz I wanna focus on others ship types after

gaunt bison
wind hazel
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Ehhssex at that point you're just collecting filler ships

wary timber
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Plus I don't have enough AVP BPs

atomic abyss
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you want to fs5 haku anyways

wind hazel
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you can coin her

atomic abyss
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coin avp*

wary timber
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Even if I do that I still won't have enough equipment and planes to arm them

rancid mural
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On hard mode am I supposed to back out of it to stack kills so I can use 1 attempt to 3 star it?

atomic abyss
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yes, you can do that

rancid mural
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Alright sweet thanks

crude fable
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Between saratoga and independence who should i retrofit first?

gilded carbon
gilded carbon
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The Clearing Mode-one

crude fable
atomic abyss
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he's, not on clearing mode yet tho

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why worry?

wind hazel
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NagaShock explanation for the wrong question

atomic abyss
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if you have clearing mode that already takes up more than 1 attempt
usually 3

gilded carbon
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The question sounded like it was for Clearing Mode, sorry

mossy void
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Just checked in. Curious why Halford is one of the meh pr ships?

atomic abyss
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her skill set just doesnt make sense

mossy void
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I'll be honest idr her skills lol

atomic abyss
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ok lets break it down

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S1:

When the battle starts, if this ship has Eagle Union gear equipped: increases this ship's AVI by 20.0%. Every 15s: targets a random enemy (humanoid enemies are prioritized) and decreases that enemy's EVA by 10.0% for 6s and launches a Lv.10 seaplane attack (DMG is based on the skill's level). If this seaplane hits the random enemy targeted by this skill: increases that enemy's cannon DMG taken by 8.0% for 6s.

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now on paper, this is a pretty good skill - a discount version of plymouth's really

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the issue is the timer its on and the reliability

plush bone
atomic abyss
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by the bold part of the skill, your enemy takes increased cannon DMG taken every 18s (accounting for 15s + travel time, assuming it hits)

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the issue here is that unless you're already using 457s, that's not going to sync up well with BBs

mossy void
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Is this the only skill that is meh or is it all of her skills

atomic abyss
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the usual champy guns would fire every 20s
so that would fall out of range of the debuff by the 2nd salvo

20-22s, 40-42s, 60-62s
18-24s, 33-39s

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S2:

Increases this ship's EVA by 30.0%. If this ship does NOT have a Seaplane equipped: increases this ship's TRP and AA by 15.0%, decreases her DMG taken by 12.0%, and, every 15s, fires a Lv.10 special barrage (DMG is based on the skill's level).
If this ship has a Seaplane equipped, activates the following effects:1) When this ship launches an odd number of airstrikes: deploys a smokescreen (lasts 5s) that increases Evasion Rate by 40.0% for all your ships in it (does not stack with other smokescreen skills);2) When this ship launches an even number of airstrikes: restores 4.0% of this ship's max HP and extinguishes any Burn this ship is afflicted with.

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firstly, DDs dont benefit that much from a flat evasion stat buff

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secondly, there's almost no reason to use a seaplane for smokescreens when there are other tanks that can also deploy smokescreens

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not to mention her smokes only come out once every 2 strikes

mossy void
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It's the odd and even number thing as well isn't it? Like I didn't know they could set off only (eg.) 5 at a time or randomly (eg.) 6 at a time.

atomic abyss
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the only thing halford has going for her, is the damage from not using a seaplane

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her damage is high yes

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and thats about it

mossy void
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The odd and even seaplane is odd to me

atomic abyss
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it feels like they were experimenting here

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daisen suffers a similar issue with her weird healing mechanic

mossy void
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Now I really haven't looked at her skills because I don't care for her much (as a waifu)

rancid mural
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Is there any other way to get this besides 2000 prototypes

atomic abyss
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"if the skill plane she launches gets shot down, heals people"

atomic abyss
boreal wagon
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it also doesnt help that her whole stick is supposed to be being able to use an absolutely cracked seaplane but her skills at the same time contradict that

rancid mural
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I'm kinda stuck on w11 lmao

atomic abyss
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so i wouldnt bother

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save the spec cores to get UR bulins for musashi nex week

rancid mural
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Ah okays

hollow sail
rancid mural
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Do events give ur uncap?

atomic abyss
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UR events give you 1 UR bulin at 30k event points earned

rancid mural
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Well that's cool

mossy void
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Ngl the specialized core things are easy to get anyway. Just need to play and do weeklies, etc

atomic abyss
sweet delta
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Halford is like a BM

atomic abyss
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just use a DDG at that point if you want DD damage HornetBruh

sweet delta
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big weapon on a terrible vessel

rancid mural
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This one is brutal lmao

atomic abyss
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it's free tho

frank pulsar
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it ez wdym

plush bone
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that's free yeah

atomic abyss
rancid mural
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I havnt been able to win pvp in 3+ days lmao

frank pulsar
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pick easier opponents then

mossy void
plush bone
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you get 15 pvp chances every day and if you can't beat someone you can quit out of the fight without losing your try

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  • refreshes
mossy void
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There's plenty people who put weak ships like meme fleets, collab ships, etc

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Just steer clear of UR ships and such (since prob a new player or returning player?)(also depends on your fleet to begin with but yeah)

rancid mural
hollow gust
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Oh you are gonna get clapped either way , just fight the rightmost fleet and cope

plush bone
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yeah, you get new opponents after losing/winning a fight

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just Prayge

rancid mural
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I'm aware it's just everyone is 5k points above me

hollow sail
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refresh until you find something beatable and if nothing is beatable idk, i don't know how pvp score works when you lose ShiSleep

rancid mural
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Stays the same lol

hollow gust
rancid mural
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I mean sure but 10k verses 15k does not care

plush bone
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you'll have an easier time once you get strong UR ships or more pvp viable ones. A fleet with that will wreck others that just have a fleet with only strong ships that don't have much synergy in pvp (like people that use Helena for example)

rancid mural
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I have UR but you know dem bullians are turbo rare Ehhssex

mossy void
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Musashi would probably help you out a bit too when she returns next week or so

rancid mural
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Yea i got the cubes but not gold atm

plush bone
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you can level UR's to lvl125 without limit breaking even once

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and even then they're still good if not better than some SSR's

hollow gust
rancid mural
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Oh

plush bone
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there's ships with skills that are really valuable in pvp but not anywhere else

rancid mural
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Is that gear correct

frank pulsar
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fire radar over toolkit

hollow gust
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There is no point for that hp box , and it doesn't matter if gear is correct when she is lmb0 and down 80+ levels

plush bone
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I think there's a different issue than the gear atm

frank pulsar
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otherwise looks fine for poverty equips
but limit break her before you use her

tame jungle
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How many bulins can you get

plush bone
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saving bulins for Musashi might be a better idea

tame jungle
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Because i think you’re better off getting musashi and using bulins on her than on ulrich

frank pulsar
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my uvh has been benchwarming my dock since her rerun RenownThumbsUp

rancid mural
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Well she's prolly better then colorado

tame jungle
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Just wait

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It’s not like campaign is going anywhere

plush bone
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level ships, do dailies and enjoy game '3')b
the exercises will be easier over time

hollow gust
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Power is a useless matrix HoodSip

plush bone
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Any advice on how to get luckier with UR gear blueprints from rigging analysis research RinPleading

tame jungle
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Take more of them

plush bone
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had 4 4 hour ones running yesterday, woke up to 0 blueprints today NOOO

sharp socket
plush bone
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LivPray I'll try, ty

south bear
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Where does Fargo go on the tierlist? hmmm

atomic abyss
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decent gold CL

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not much else

coarse heron
atomic abyss
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ECTL says T1 with support and mob tags for their prelims

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i'd say around T1-T2

south bear
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Picking out my next couple of EU vanguards to get to 120 for priority exp, and wondering if she would be good, with Northampton 2 and Cleveland

atomic abyss
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decent, nothing special, no particular niche

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prioritise houston to 120 if you havent

south bear
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Houston 2?

atomic abyss
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og houston

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because of her fleet tech

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+1 evasion to all CB/CA

south bear
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Ah, found her, forgot she was elite and only looked for SSR

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Will do WarPat

left ridge
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where does this go

atomic abyss
# left ridge where does this go

carriers with fighter locked slots, facing med and heavy armour bosses in opsi/meta showdowns (replacement for the BF109G)
if you lack HVAR hellcats, light armour as well

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not for campaign

reef flume
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How do I know which position a BB performs better (barrage aside)? Cuz yesterday someone said stuff like some ships will deal more damage in a specific position (although I don't remember who and their exact words)

atomic abyss
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i believe that was me, and in that context it was vanguards

though you're absolutely right, it can be very critical for BBs in particular

soft dagger
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must be because of barrage

atomic abyss
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there are 2 ways to tell

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1 - it says so in the skill itself

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Increases this ship's FP and RLD by 15.0%. When this ship equips a Main Gun which uses HE ammo: increases this ship's DMG dealt to Light and Medium Armor enemies by 15.0%. At the start of the battle, if this ship is NOT the Flagship: decreases this ship's Main Gun reload time by 50.0%, but decreases her Main Gun DMG dealt by 45.0%.

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all UR BBs, with the exception being Ulrich due to the above mentioned skill
dont really care if they're in flag or not

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the other way, as Hikari pointed out, is due to barrages

reef flume
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Oh alr thx

atomic abyss
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most barrages, are position based

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i.e they shoot directly in front of the BB

reef flume
atomic abyss
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such as pennsylvania, hood, nelson

rose cosmos
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Musashi rerun next week?

atomic abyss
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for the URs, and some SR BBs like Indiana, Constellation, Owari have aimed barrages

rose cosmos
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300 cubes enough?

atomic abyss
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I.e, the barrage is targeted on the enemy directly as opposed to directly in front of the ship itself

rose cosmos
atomic abyss
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but how do we know which is which
...well you kinda have to test them, or you can ask here

atomic abyss
reef flume
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Okk I got it thx

atomic abyss
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but well, you get at least 168 cubes a month
so a non issue

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best case scenario you use 0 cubes

spring bolt
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well, that drake is 125 and bayard is 120, both got maxed weapons, drake died a few seconds earlier but anyway, her dps is really last gen standard BuckyPride

steel lava
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Which elite shipgirls should I get from the guild shop?

atomic abyss
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unicorn first
then refresh and get helena

steel lava
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I already got those

atomic abyss
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do get some blues too tho

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like pennsylvania

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otherwise it doesnt really matter

steel lava
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What does pennsylvania do?

atomic abyss
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best budget BB

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also useful for raising to 120 later

steel lava
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Ohh okay

graceful kelp
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is peter strasser a good CV or just mid? cause i planning to retire her

atomic abyss
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mid, but has good lv 120 fleet tech

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recommended to get her to 120 first if you need to clear up space

graceful kelp
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so dont retire her?

atomic abyss
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you can retire her after you get her to 120

graceful kelp
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ok

atomic abyss
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+2 avi to all carriers once she has reached 120

graceful kelp
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who should i retire to get more space

atomic abyss
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dolphin, akagi-chan, little bel, whydah, adventure galley, portsmouth adventure, kashino are all safe to retire

bright tusk
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Is nakhimov only good if paired with soyuz?

atomic abyss
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baltimore muse is safe to retire

atomic abyss
atomic abyss
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kashino, as with all muniton ships are garbage

tame jungle
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kashino is great as a skin display in secretary slot

graceful kelp
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i see

tame jungle
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however not much practical use

graceful kelp
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isnt chiyoda in a low tier

atomic abyss
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chiyoda has +1 CV avi tech

graceful kelp
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oh

bright tusk
atomic abyss
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typical CV fleet

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so kears yk2 if light/med
amagi haku/nano if heavy

graceful kelp
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is getting shinano a wise option?

atomic abyss
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the best possible option

graceful kelp
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ok thanks 🙏

bright tusk
atomic abyss
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nakhi herself is the freezer after all

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and she has the exact same loadout as impla

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3 fighter, 3 tb, 3 flex slot

sand shoal
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I know I just came back to AL last week but what is this gauge bar?

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wth did i miss for 6 months?

crimson glacier
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cv strong when its empty, cv normal when its full

atomic abyss
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and detection gauge has been around for about 2 years already

sand shoal
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Ehhssex Naruhodo but i never notice it

bright tusk
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For the other NP slow, better tash or voro?

atomic abyss
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tash needs her unique aug to work as a slower for any battles over 50s

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tash does more, voro is tankier

mystic acorn
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whats the better seaplane?
Suisei or Bear

atomic abyss
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the bearcat

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doesnt cost gearlab mats either

mystic acorn
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oh yeah there's that too

still nest
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Any Iris libre that I can get?

tame jungle
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D30 saint louis should give you enough

bright tusk
atomic abyss
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there's no slower/freezer there

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for any opsi/meta boss that so much as moves, you're gonna miss your torp bombers

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if you know your boss isnt gonna move much however, or you're willing to gamble the overall higher damage potential with the potential of misses, yeah, the triple sakura CV comp works better

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thats why it's ideal for nagato meta

still nest
bold stream
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Hello, do we have a break of a week before the next event?

atomic abyss
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this IS our week of break

tame jungle
atomic abyss
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Musashi rerun next week

bold stream
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Thanks! I am planning to jump servers to start anew before the next event. Just started about a week ago. And I think I know better now..

tame jungle
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Why not just keep going

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Early on there’s hardly anything time can’t fix

plush bone
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how far have you gotten in that week?

bold stream
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I am at 5-4 can but very low on oil. I think i have limit broken my ships too early and scattered my levels.

plush bone
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and is that the reason why you want to switch?

atomic abyss
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you are meant to limit break ships early
you are meant to only build 1 fleet of 6 ships initially

bold stream
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Hnnn.. yes. Because I think I can start better now?

tame jungle
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Just keep going on this account Ehhssex

bold stream
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But wanna play and I am always out off oil to play...

tame jungle
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Then wait

atomic abyss
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starting anew will not fix how limited oil is early on

bold stream
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I mean, i know its a problem now... But I run like 60 oil cost team early

plush bone
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well, there's your issue

atomic abyss
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thats an issue with using high rarity units early on

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not with limit breaking them early on

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that is a very easily fixable issue

bold stream
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Yeah, thars why i thought i can do better now

tame jungle
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Just Wait Bro

low lintel
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Could someone review the ships i have and try to form a fleet for Project Siren and just general mapping?

tame jungle
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And then what if you’re out of oil on the other account too?

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You’ll just be making new accounts one after the other and you’ll never get past chapter 6

bold stream
atomic abyss
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no just stick to the account you have

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and instead switch around what ships you have

plush bone
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it's your decision to make, but you can learn from what you've done now and try to make more oil efficient fleets for farming and focus on getting your sources of oil upgraded

tame jungle
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Being out of oil is a good chance to do something more productive too

bold stream
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Okay i guess.. i have like 40 cubes still

low lintel
atomic abyss
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yes please

bold stream
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What productive things to do?

tame jungle
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That’s your life

late flame
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why, touching grass of course

atomic abyss
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AL early on is a waiting game

bold stream
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Ah, got none.. ahahahhaa

low lintel
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Ships + Advice

tame jungle
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Exactly BuckySmug so a win-win

atomic abyss
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this is a resource managment game disguised as a gacha game

late flame
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Will
Have
A
Lucky
Encounter

trust

atomic abyss
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and the game doesnt frontload you with enough resources

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for "rerolling" or starting a new acct to be worth

late flame
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agreed, no point in rerolling

bold stream
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Yeah, thats why i said wanna start anew to manage my starting resources better. I do not really mean rerolling since I have plenty of cubes left.. just well... I ruined my early game resources

late flame
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just need enough time ~or money

tame jungle
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You didn’t

bold stream
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I didnt?

tame jungle
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A real waste would be throwing your time and spent resources away by starting over for no reason

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Because realistically you’re just gonna have to spend those again to get to the same point you’re at

late flame
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also whaling isnt a must tbh - just pull wisely and save

tame jungle
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Imagine you start a new account and spend a week on that, you’ll be at 5-4 again while instead you could’ve been at like 8-4 with your old account + you saved up a bunch of cubes for the Musashi rerun

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I know what i’d choose at least

bold stream
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Ah, I see what mean then.

late flame
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TL;DR is dont bother rerolling

spring bolt
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it's a dead week now, nothing to reroll for tbh

bold stream
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Like I said its not really rerolling...

late flame
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as long as you start managing resources better from now on you'll catch up

atomic abyss
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you'll do more than just catch up

bold stream
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When i started its like the ending week of an event.. and been stuck with the event. I think I can enjoy the base game now without the event

spring bolt
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event has 2 modes, do the normal mode and get some points, you will be fine

bold stream
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I was only able to do until the third map.

tame jungle
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then with a week of improving your fleet you'll be able to do the musashi event map probably

spring bolt
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like i said it's a dead week now, and the next event is a UR rerun, you have more than enough time to prepare your fleet for normal mode

tame jungle
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normal mode enemies are only like max lv60 for the event anyway, you'll breeze through them with ease

bold stream
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Okay thank you

whole crypt
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sup mogs

wary timber
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is it worth using Jervis in later maps like w13 and after

atomic abyss
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jervis is semi decent in w14 since her asw prowess is excellent

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but is she the best choice? far from it

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definitely one of the better ones tho

wary timber
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the DDs i use regularly is my DDGs , Shimakaze, Z23, Z47 and Laffey

whole crypt
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pretty sure ASW isn't the main reason you picked Jervis

atomic abyss
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asw + tank

atomic abyss
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why not raise her instead?

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eld retro is like the 2nd best DD for w14/15

wary timber
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Eldridge? yea i have her retrofitted say for her lv90 one

atomic abyss
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instead of raising jervis, eld may be the better option

wary timber
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i ran out of parts to complete her lv90 tactical learning

eternal basalt
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15th the stream means 21st the collab, right?

atomic abyss
whole crypt
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probably

atomic abyss
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instead of like, raising jervis

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i dont think jervis does anything better than eld at least

whole crypt
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it's rare for streams to be over a week before event

reef flume
atomic abyss
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2024年11月15日(金)20時より「秋のアズレン公式生放送 To LOVEる-とらぶる-ダークネス コラボSP」の配信が決定!MCにはマフィア梶田さん、ゲストには金色の闇役の福圓 美里さん、西連寺 春菜役の矢作 紗友里さんにお越しいただき、コラボ情報をお伝えいたします!当日は、X(旧Twitter)の番組ハッ...

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JP stream but yes

reef flume
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I see

forest jasper
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why haruna....

whole crypt
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ask devs

atomic abyss
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thats not even haruna tho

forest jasper
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her VA is in stream

wary timber
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i chose Jervis cuz i other than Javelin and Jervis i dont have any other RN DD that i can use

atomic abyss
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why must you use a HMS DD?

late flame
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eww faction fleet

wary timber
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ever heard of needing vanguard ships for research...

atomic abyss
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use their CLs

whole crypt
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use something that's not a DD

atomic abyss
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HMS has an abundance of good CLs

whole crypt
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or you know, just give up on research while pushing progression

wary timber
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i only readied Belfast, Edinburgh and Dido

eternal basalt
atomic abyss
atomic abyss
wary timber
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all lv1

atomic abyss
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then those are the ones you shd work on

forest jasper
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i mean she does not even have a role in darkness

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just like a ghost floating there in the series

whole crypt
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yahagi also voices kinu but sure

eternal basalt
atomic abyss
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there is in the manga, anime had no winner yes

whole crypt
atomic abyss
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dont mix up your ends for the means

late flame
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smh not doing corpse dragging

atomic abyss
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your goal shd be raising useful ships while doing research

whole crypt
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it's the same thing as when we tell folks don't try to do leveling when pushing

atomic abyss
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not using ships you happen to have raised

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sirius and aurora are far more valuable thanks to opsi and meta

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and ofc i didnt even include the limited scylla

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or neppy who just got a substantial buff

wary timber
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scylla.. yea i got her at lv1

whole crypt
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do 14 with actually good ships then go back to 12 for leveling and research

late flame
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arguably still better than that guy who absolutely refuses to use unicorn kek

gilded carbon
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Neptune, the collab-one?

atomic abyss
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so you have plenty of useful HMS CLs

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no HMS Neptune

whole crypt
atomic abyss
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this gremlin in the emote

gilded carbon
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I would have been quit surprised if the collab-one got buffed ^^`

wary timber
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i lack bulins

late flame
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i wouldnt put too much hope into that tbh

keen mural
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How long do Reruns of UR events usually last?

gilded carbon
atomic abyss
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so your bulins... went into jervis instead?

atomic abyss
keen mural
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Oh ok thanks

atomic abyss
whole crypt
wary timber
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no. they went into Amity lmao. i only have one gold bulin left

whole crypt
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even with the augment she's meh

atomic abyss
late flame
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lol amity

atomic abyss
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thats even worse

tame jungle
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gg

late flame
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come i clap for you moment

whole crypt
atomic abyss
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what nnt said

late flame
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w14 is a different ball game not just any waifu can cut it there

whole crypt
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you don't even sound like you're trying to prepare for 14 at all why bother

plain saffron
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Imagine caring about chapter 14 and above

whole crypt
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I don't because it's already cleared

late flame
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i dont because i still grinding opsi

wary timber
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welp. back to w12 it is

tame jungle
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i don't because focusing pr grind with shitters

whole crypt
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well nowadays it's just 12-1 until I'm out of chips, until I seriously want to push cmdlv again

late flame
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lv150 cmd pack when

whole crypt
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unironically useless to me even if they added one

quartz jungle
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what if they gave gold plate

whole crypt
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depends on amount

gilded carbon
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I have to hold back to not ASK about all that many ships in term of usefulness.
Is the community-Tierlist up to Date enough to use instead?

whole crypt
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yes

atomic abyss
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ECTL is in a need of update i would say...

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in the sense of newer ships not being tiered yet

whole crypt
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it's just the few recent events that haven't been added but they're still good for most things up

atomic abyss
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but otherwise well everything else - yeah no issue

gilded carbon
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Yeah, i saw a few newer ones Missing.

atomic abyss
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just note its heavily campaigned focused

late flame
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+sorted alphabetically within each tier

whole crypt
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not like the game's late campaign meta has changed any much over the past year or so

gilded carbon
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Thats fine. Need to Finish that one anyway

whole crypt
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Eldridge retrofit good for 14+, Laffey II and Guam good for 15 and 13H, basically everything else has been static for past year

glacial harness
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i did one run of 13-1 to see whats up and half the fleet was close to death

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Damn this map got hands

atomic abyss
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you do need AA for 13 yes

wary timber
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i regret missing Guam and Laffey2

glacial harness
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I have a sandy, i consider raising montpelier too now

whole crypt
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13 is significantly easier once you get around to knowing your AA and carriers

glacial harness
bold stream
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Can we level UR past lv 70 without limit breaking?

crimson glacier
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yes but they are really weak

bold stream
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For a new player like hutten is very strong tho...

tame jungle
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not at 0lb

bold stream
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What do you mean?

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My ships are 70 max rn with most at 40

crimson glacier
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and with no limit breaks she is really bad

bold stream
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Ah? Really..? Her skills proc even on the second fleet

crimson glacier
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that proc is always weak

bold stream
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Kinda okay for new players only i guess?

tame jungle
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no

bold stream
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Ah? She is my best ship

crimson glacier
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uvh is doing like 1/3rd of her dmg, maybe even less

tame jungle
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mlb or bust

crimson glacier
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average modern gold BBs would be much stronger

bold stream
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Where can even get the ur bullins?

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Wait let me finish fight so I can show you my deck

ivory pawn
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Most will be from the Specialized Core shop.

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There’s also the Cruise Mission 100 reward, and a freebie for doing some missions in the events tab for new players.

bold stream
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Okay I see them. Kinda far but I think I can get them all. Thank you.

atomic abyss
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This is exactly what we meant earlier by lower rarity ships are better early on

bold stream
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Yeah, thats bad. I am trapped. She is highest lvl ship at lv 70.

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I still have like 60+ cubes...

storm heron
bold stream
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Try to get ssr BB?

keen sable
bold stream
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I guess I have to stop using her

keen sable
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You should at a minimum probably stop investing resources in her. (Ie xp books)

bold stream
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I have like 80+ exp books.. i rarely use them

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Is erobus and terror okay backline?

keen sable
bold stream
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I already bought bismark and sandigeo from the medal shop

obtuse girder
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You should just focus on 1 Ulrich

bold stream
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I dont think warspite is good my terror helps me better

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Okay. I will.

tawdry topaz
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Dont use Bismark, use Enterprise/Hood instead

atomic abyss
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thats the best you have

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and yeah, regular bismarck is shit

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why those ships
well not only are they stronger than what you are using currently
they're lower rarity, meaning they're easier to limit break and reach their max potential

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which is higher than the partially or no limit broken SR/URs

keen sable
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Two uvh...

keen sable
ancient socket
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As an additional comment, when Erebus is mentioned I just think about "oil efficiency", not "good ship". Erebus has (or had, since oil limits exist now) only one use, she isn't used for game progression or anything like that. Personally though, I think you should just use Nelson, Unicorn and Saratoga as Ender mentioned. You might find Erebus useful later but as of right now you probably have no reason to use her.

atomic abyss
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what foxy said

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erebus/terror only seems stronger than warspite since their skill barrage isnt reliant on their limit breaks

serene bobcat
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Best thing to get level 13 here? Got enough resources from opsi

atomic abyss
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the admiralty fire control table

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also huge disclaimer - dont partially upgrade your stuff past +10

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either you get them to

serene bobcat
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Cheers, was thinking that too

atomic abyss
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+13 or leave them at 10

serene bobcat
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Ah gotcha, any particular reason? Or is it just a waste of resources

atomic abyss
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because the gains from +10 to +12 is smaller than the one from +12 to +13

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also - rainbow gear in general is just usually not a good choice to upgrade past +10

serene bobcat
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I see, thanks for that. The more you know

atomic abyss
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and the skyraider from yorktown 2 event

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they cost thrice the amount of resources of +13-ing a gold gear

serene bobcat
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Oh fr? That's surprising, I guess because it takes alot?

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Ahhh understood

atomic abyss
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so usually you get far more impact from +13-ing the many gold gear you end up using

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this is especially so for carriers

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since the HVAR Hellcat, the BF109G, and all 4 converging torp bombers are all gold rarity

serene bobcat
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Got it, didn't know any of that. Thanks I'll keep that in mind when leveling stuff in the future DorkHeart

atomic abyss
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well what's been done cant be undone but ye
going back to your initial question, the control table

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it's considered high prio to +13 too

serene bobcat
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Will do that right now

bold stream
uncut oar
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you can run them without ammo they just do half damage

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you don't need to do anything special

bold stream
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I see... So I can roll with 6 ships only...

keen sable
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That's not true for auxes...

ancient socket
bold stream
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Okay. I did not know that. Thank you ender, foxy, nubi

tame jungle
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i didn't do anything MutsukiHyperStare

obtuse girder
tame jungle
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wholesome gph moment

little geyser
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Are any of these worth doing?

whole crypt
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chessboard for KMS tech, otherwise basically just collection

little geyser
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Oki thank you

obtuse girder
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The basically, "im bored and got nothing to do anymore"

soft osprey
whole crypt
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Nelson has a solid retrofit that's good up through midgame

atomic abyss
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nelson has a pretty strong retrofit, which turns her into one of the better gold BBs

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it's no UR sure but, it's still darn good for how accessible it is

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she's relevant for longer than hood

soft osprey
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well, still not on level of NJ and UVH right?

atomic abyss
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URs are on another level

soft osprey
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not gonna change it then

little geyser
soft raft
little geyser
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Ah I see I didn't think about it like that thank you 🙂🙏

whole crypt
gilded carbon
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Im sure i know the answer, but is there a way to make Curocoa and Curlew viable?

soft osprey
rapid grail
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chat are the to love ru collab characters good

tame jungle
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yea

viscid swift
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wrong chat

soft raft
rapid grail
soft raft
soft raft
rapid grail
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@blissful hamlet

whole crypt
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whatever it is it's not gph material

viscid swift
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I mean I really don't know what to tell you, we know nothing about the collab other than it's coming and this isn't WoWs where I have something I can base potential kits on

whole crypt
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I know who 2 of the VAs will be

ancient socket
whole crypt
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collab characters nowadays toe the line of usable on the good side

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but we won't have details until actual datamine

soft raft
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livestream is next friday right?

gilded carbon
viscid swift
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No news on any livestream yet

ancient socket
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2024年11月15日(金)20時より「秋のアズレン公式生放送 To LOVEる-とらぶる-ダークネス コラボSP」の配信が決定!MCにはマフィア梶田さん、ゲストには金色の闇役の福圓 美里さん、西連寺 春菜役の矢作 紗友里さんにお越しいただき、コラボ情報をお伝えいたします!当日は、X(旧Twitter)の番組ハッ...

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whole crypt
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more like 6 days and 20 hours but yeh

forest palm
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literally just open the fucking video and it gives you the estimated time for you locally

atomic abyss
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we'll make the channel for the stream soon

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as soon as res finishes reading the manga

jaunty vault
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isn't that syan's job

little geyser
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I just found this website is it accurate?

viscid swift
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if you read the tiering guidelines it's good enough

little geyser
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Also with the gear that's listed?

viscid swift
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again read the guidelines and descriptions

little geyser
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Oki thank you

primal silo
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Yes, and resets every year on anni

atomic abyss
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why on earth did you reply to a post from

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october

primal silo
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Whoops

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Got lost a lil

jaunty vault
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bros been backreading

frank pulsar
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what armour is arby this month? i havent started on opsi

viscid swift
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medium

ancient socket
stone sluice
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There’s scenarios where you need 1 Mogador gun and 2 100mm Kai? Or is just 1 of each gun enough?

sweet delta
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You can use more in campaign

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In single boss battles one each is almost always enough

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One for a DD and one for a CB Blessex

stone sluice
viscid swift
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I have used triple DD guns a for a boss for only one occasion

steel lava
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Is the T4 Techboxes worth buying?

plain saffron
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only if 90% discount

sweet delta
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Why not 80%

ancient socket
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I only buy them when I'm coin capped, but yes, agree with the above.

plain saffron
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or around that idr the exact value

sweet delta
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There is none

steel lava
plain saffron
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it can't?

steel lava
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What?

ancient socket
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Nagami means it's not worth it, basically.

sweet delta
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Buy at whatever discount seems reasonable, I guess most people would recommend 90% discounted to new players . 80% maybe

steel lava
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Oh, Alright then

sweet delta
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Nagami is just confused

plain saffron
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No I'm asking is it possible or not. Bcs it sounds like suchi said it's not possible

sweet delta
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I didn't say that

eager mulch
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suchi said “There is none”

plain saffron
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Idk, at least to me it does

sweet delta
# sweet delta There is none

This refers to the existence of an exact discount value where it becomes "worth" to buy. But there's no hard rule for how many coins a T4 box is worth

jaunty vault
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and then there was none

plain saffron
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Who's none

viscid swift
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personally I wouldn't really ever

eager mulch
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I aim at the point where I wouldn’t buy it even with a 100% discount smolmagisleep

viscid swift
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too much RNG in getting something useful not to mention the abundance of other ways to get tech boxes these days

plain saffron
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I guess depends if you're desperate or not

stark quiver
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Desperate for a repair rig

ancient socket
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Let's make it simple:
If you have the coins and don't need them but you need anything from the boxes, then sure, get them.
If you are coin capped, get them.
Otherwise, I don't know. I wouldn't.
The discount is a plus.

sweet delta
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Would you also ask Sam to remove gold tech packs from event shop priority

jaunty vault
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whos sam

eager mulch
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I would ask Sam how his day was

viscid swift
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Sam might be dead

plain saffron
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I can't, that's his part. I only touch datamined part

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I killed him bcs he didn't remove the gold boxes

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Technically I didn't even touch it's all my bot

little geyser
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Is san Diego worth retrofitting and is she good with guam?

ancient socket
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Yes

sweet delta
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She's good with anyone

eager mulch
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-worth
it’s very expensive
good on her own

viscid swift
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eventually yes and she doesn't necessarily have any reason to be sortied with Guam but both are good ships

little geyser
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Nice thank you

slim dawn
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Is it worth it to craft the light armor type torpedoes for w15-1 cause I noticed light armored enemies are common in there

eager mulch
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-worth
I wouldn’t say so

viscid swift
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I never felt the need to use them

slim dawn
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Hmm

sweet delta
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Because gold tech from the event shop is effectively 6000 coins for 5 boxes, which is a 76% discount

stark quiver
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You could if u want, I made one and use them for a good one time

sweet delta
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I +13d one and then improved quad mag appeared

slim dawn
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Quad mag is always better?

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I think i have enough to craft 3 of them

cobalt rapids
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improved quad mag

sweet delta
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Improved quad mag is always better.
Quad mag is better than the Iris torp against medium and heavy

slim dawn
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What's improved quad mag?

atomic abyss
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event limited mag torp

sweet delta
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/wiki improved quadruple

slim dawn
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💀

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I think i missed that

waxen pawn
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Ok so, I'm on 13-1 and I'm getting absolutely railed compared to 12-4, how do I go about beating this? I'm primarily getting swarmed with planes

eternal basalt
slim dawn
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AA, double carrier in every fleet

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That's how I survived world 13, I don't know other's way

ancient socket
tame jungle
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first of all what's your fleets

waxen pawn
slim dawn
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Musashi helps too, I had triple BB fighting 13-4 boss, Musashi took it all 🥵

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Anyway should I still craft the gold normal quad mag

sweet delta
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I beat 13-4 lethal with sextuple BB/BC so it's just about having the right gear (but of course more good carriers is better than more good BBs up to 4 or 5)

ancient socket
sweet delta
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If you don't have any outstanding Mark VIII to convert into Bidder then use the mats on a few quad mags

slim dawn
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Mark vIII??

tame jungle
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prerequisite to bidder

slim dawn
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Sorry what even is that

waxen pawn
tame jungle
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where is unicorn

atomic abyss
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yeah ooga booga doesnt work past w12

sweet delta
odd rootBOT
atomic abyss
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there's no semblance of AA on any of the vanguards, and not enough carriers in the backline to make up for it

waxen pawn
atomic abyss
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this is also assuming your gear is at minimum, poverty standard

sweet delta
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PercyNaruhodo so pure level 125 fleets with zero fleet building doesn't work in 13

waxen pawn
tame jungle
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gold gear is not always good

slim dawn
tame jungle
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generally

slim dawn
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All this time I am using the G7e

waxen pawn
tame jungle
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do /equip in #bot-spam

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g7e is also decent but to maximize the damage output you want very high reload on your subs

left tiger
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is it worth to craft gold quad torps from gearlab?

tame jungle
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try get them from gold tech boxes

left tiger
ancient socket
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If we are comparing it to crafting the rainbow quint mag torp, then yes, the quad mag is more worth it.
But you can get them from the tech boxes too, so there's that.

tame jungle
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we're not comparing it to the quint

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if you really can't get any from gold boxes then sure craft a few

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in my experience the materials aren't that scarce anyway (at least not compared to gold electronics)

left tiger
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aight thanks

tame jungle
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don't craft more than you need (general advice for gear lab as well)

ancient socket
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Especially when you can get that gear from other sources, yes.

stark quiver
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Any etas for yk2 rerun?

tame jungle
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nope

eternal basalt
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We JUST get Musashi TorricelliSad

stark quiver
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💀

tame jungle
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🔮

shell willow
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estimate? like 3 months

ancient socket
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If it's not official or leaked then it didn't happen and there's no ETA.

forest palm
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AL has no leaks NurnNom

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also Convergence is probably getting thrown in the trash

eternal basalt
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Order is switched, no Hipper 2.0 for you yet

tame jungle
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idk i just stole this from blaster

stark quiver
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Now all I gotta do is pray yk2 reruns on a holiday week

eternal basalt
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Blücher is probably next, they need something to prevent 3 UR in a row

little geyser
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After I get this and the other shell is there anything else I should prioritize getting from this shop?

tame jungle
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/coredata

little geyser
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Ooh thank you I didn't know this existed

cobalt rapids
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3 whit shells, 1-2 black shells, 0-1 ddg stuff, 0/3 ss stuff, 2-3 cv timing stuff

eager mulch
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you dropped this sir: e

viscid swift
little geyser
eternal basalt
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Don't expect it in 2024

cobalt rapids
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/protocore

little geyser
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Thank you

eternal basalt
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If it's like last year, the UR drops in january following the old UR followed by feb's UR MutsukiHyperStare

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4 URs like that...

faint cloud
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In order to prevent the waiting time for a ur longer and longer...

eternal basalt
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(4 new UR events with 6 UR AkagiLUL )

little geyser
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I already have invested a lil bit into this I have 15/50 should I keep going with it or focus the plane

faint cloud
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yea maybe 2 of 4 are double ur events

atomic abyss
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focus the plane

little geyser
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Alright thank you

faint cloud
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2 5 9 12 for new urs, 1 4 7 11 for rerunsGascoCube

olive cedar
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Which Napoli deal more DPS than Brest?

forest palm
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neither really

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Napoli should do more damage, but both are tanks

olive cedar
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Running a Siren fleet for fast auto clearing including fortress

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I think that I either replace Napoli or Hinden with Brest

plush bone
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do you have Alsace?

olive cedar
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But don't know if it will lessen the clearing speed

olive cedar
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But don't have Alsace oathed

viscid swift
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if you really want to go for fast clearing you'd use Unicorn plus 2 early load CVs like Luna, Impero, Akagi Muse, Amagi CV, etc

plush bone
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I think for just pure speed I think Alsace instead of Perseus and Brest instead of Napoli will clear faster. I might be wrong but Alsace's debuff could help in faster clear times

olive cedar
viscid swift
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you probably need bettering on your CVs then

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like rocket fighters on your CVs

plush bone
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a good CV might be better than Champagne yeah

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and for mobbing I think NJ's barrage is more valuable than UVH

olive cedar
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What CV maybe fast for clearing and also deal decent damage to boss fleets?

mental marlin
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why cant i put agir in the dorm?

olive cedar
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Thanks for the advice guys. Will try replacing Champ with CV and also trying Alsace.

plush bone
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you should be able to?

tame jungle
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do you have any filters enabled or smth in dorm

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or do you have her on the first/second floor already

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(or just restart game)

ancient socket
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Do you get any error messages?

mental marlin
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nvm i restarted the game now it works

tame jungle
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gg

tulip thorn
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In terms of rewards, how worth are the strongholds in opsi?

ancient socket
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Very

cobalt rapids
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right after arbi and c5/c6 abysalls

tulip thorn
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Oh well...time to start doing it again

eternal basalt
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Especially the 300 credits node

tulip thorn
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I got too lazy in the past...."few months"

plush bone
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if you don't like them then try making a fleet that can auto clear the whole stage

tulip thorn
tame jungle
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hella opsi coins

cobalt rapids
viscid swift
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Gold plates and gear lab mats

viscid swift
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Quite a few of them too

plush bone
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like 2-3 meowficer spots which have the chance to give something like rainbow stuff

tulip thorn
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What if i do it just for the gold plates? Is it still worth?
I can buy everything in the shop every month without strongholds

cobalt rapids
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yea its worth it just for goldplates alone

boreal wagon
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u can never have enough gold plates

eternal basalt
tulip thorn
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Mhhhh how many bosses there are?

cobalt rapids
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4 normal 1 retake 1 final

viscid swift
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Just set it autosearch with your mob fleet and call it a day

eager mulch
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4 + 1 + 1 = 6 smugmagi

sweet delta
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10.47 gold plates per stronghold

tulip thorn
ancient socket
cobalt rapids
eternal basalt
tulip thorn
stone sluice
viscid swift
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plenty of things to spend them on

ancient socket
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Weird flex but ok
Just kidding, nice. Should spend them though.

stark quiver
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Just getting converging planes to +13 will clean out your stock

tulip thorn
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Idk too which gears i should +13

tame jungle
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/plus13

plush bone
mental marlin
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is it worth it to use these for agir?

viscid swift
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PR4 ones sure, 5 and higher I'd at least save them for their own seasons

mental marlin
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ok thanks

sleek bolt
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Guys, do we have flood damage (DoT) equation?
Wondering if AVI and slot efficiency affect flood dmg

desert tapir
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If I want to upgrade the SAB2C Helldiver with something from the gear lab I want the XTB2D-1 Skypirate right?

Sorry I'm away from my PC atm and I can't get the guide to format right for my cellphone.

cobalt rapids
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skypirate isnt worth the mats
and neither is the other path into goldiver worth it

sweet delta
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The upgrade for helldiver is tenrai

fallen verge
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new player, which one should i pick

cobalt rapids
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they are all tech so any RLD u want

viscid swift
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doesn't really matter because they're all shit and you won't be able to afford to upgrade them

slow fox
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Fusou is hottest. Get her.

cobalt rapids
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i recommend not buying their mlb crystals and just raise em in dorm for rld tech instead LilEnty
but later when ure tech farming not if ure new

eager mulch
ancient socket
eternal basalt
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They are Elites, elites!

eager mulch
soft osprey
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About to get Tallin. Is she good?

desert tapir
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Finally leveling my Hindenburg, the fleet she's in has Cheshire for AA, so will it be better to give her a third a second normal gun over an AA? Or should she have one gun, one torpedo, and one AA on principle?

viscid swift
viscid swift
eager mulch
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AA gun hindenburg defeats the whole point of hindenburg

desert tapir
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Kinda figured but theres always good odd I don't actually understand what I'm doing. Thanks peoples

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So it looks like the spare guns I have laying around are twin 203 sk, proto twin 234 main gun mount, twin 203 naval gun mount, and twin 203 Mle 1931. Anything else would have to be pulled from the opsi teams.
Should I use one of these or pull from opsi?

Edit: this is for the secondary gun mount. Primary is a triple 234mm.

viscid swift
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The only upgrade from OpSi would be another Drake gun

spring bolt
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If you're just leveling her, any one of those will do

barren tapir
# fallen verge new player, which one should i pick

u wont use any of them for anything beyond as ppl mentioned rld tech, however it's worth noting fusou does have a (very weak) crossfleet barrage iirc, which has...a tiny bit of use, potentially, when you don't have anything else crossfleet-wise

desert tapir
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Related distantly to my first question. Does Napoli want anything special for her second gun? She's joining the leveling fleet as well but if she wants anything specific in the long run I can try and start working on it.

viscid swift
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not really

ancient socket
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(do keep in mind RLD tech isn't so important for a new player and there are probably other better ships they could put in dorm instead, but yes)

atomic abyss
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just the usual strong CL secondary

barren tapir
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(also, even when you reach w12+ and begin caring about tech, you'd focus on main faction tech first since that also unlocks research ships)

rancid mural
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Can I swap people in project siren? I set my team when it unlocked and got a lot of new peeps since then

viscid swift
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yes

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port zone -> order -> fleet deployment

rancid mural
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Oh nice thanks

atomic abyss
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yes, there is apparently a gif for this

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which i only discovered yesterday
in #al-general of all places

barren tapir
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i love it

desert tapir
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It's wonderful

eager mulch
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musashi !!! musashi

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Thurday for meee!!!

atomic abyss
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after next maint
maint on the same day as always

little geyser
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Idk where I got this from but is it better than the purple hellcat?

cobalt rapids
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if its a rainbow sakura dive bomber its better yes Noteshiro

atomic abyss
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uh what is "this"

there be no image

little geyser
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oh my bad

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oh file size too big i meant the gold f6f hellcat

atomic abyss
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yes its better

sweet delta
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Well yes gold is better than its purple version

eager mulch
cobalt rapids
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i en-ed

rancid mural
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Is there a way to abadon this? It is impossible lol

viscid swift
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Yes, beat her

cobalt rapids
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it expires tomorrow

atomic abyss
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press auto deploy

eager mulch
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auto deploy smolmagisleep

atomic abyss
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it'll be done in like 15 mins

eager mulch
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someone didnt put a meta ship in the fleet against qe meta it seems

atomic abyss
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guy is relatively new

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any fleet would have gotten shredded by level diff alone

rancid mural
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Well that works lol

spring bolt
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first time i see how the auto deploy works too PortDoll

rancid mural
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I have a meta in team she's level 97 though

eager mulch
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p

rancid mural
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From the battle pass

atomic abyss
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yeah uh

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definitely wont help even if she was 125

sweet delta
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I realized that I don't have enough adaptability and didn't unlock strength LilEnty so here's Ark Royal META with CVs that are mid at medium, including a zero-assault ark royal

atomic abyss
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given how meh houshou meta is

viscid swift
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Yeah not how you one shot QE META

atomic abyss
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what kind of crack is that lusty on

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wtf

viscid swift
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La-9 crack?

atomic abyss
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yeah ig

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if enemy is light and lusty is carrying rockets maybe?

spring bolt
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maybe even double la9 crack

atomic abyss
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that would explain why chkalov and ark did so little

viscid swift
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Ark Royal is medium armor

atomic abyss
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ark is one of the higher DPS CVs after all NagaThonk

sweet delta
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Not against medium

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What no la9 does to a bote

tulip thorn
# tame jungle /plus13

But how many of them should i +13?
Like if i have 4 copies of 406mm should i +13 3 of them or all 4?

atomic abyss
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oh you mean the battle was arkM?

viscid swift
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Yes

atomic abyss
viscid swift
atomic abyss
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you usually only need 3 champagne guns so you shd only want 3 of them at +13

sweet delta
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Variety is a spice of timing, so I would recommend 2 champ plus a flandre and maybe a soyuz

atomic abyss
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if you need more, just swap
you cant use more than 3 at a time after all

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i personally have 2x +13 champy and 1x +13 soyuz
planning one +13 izumo gun too

sweet delta
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If ur izumo gun isn't past 10 yet then choose daisen gun

viscid swift
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I would agree

atomic abyss
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to sync with 457?

tulip thorn
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Too many names wait
Im dumbdumb

viscid swift
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No to get off 4 salvos in META fights

sweet delta
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the all-knowing redditors would disagree

cobalt rapids
atomic abyss
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4 salvos off means 457 timing usually no?

sweet delta
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Champ gun is 4 salvos

viscid swift
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Nope daisen gun is 2 sec slower than 457 and Musashi herself is pretty slow

atomic abyss
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wtf

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i cant get 4 salvos off with champy

eager mulch
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yet

atomic abyss
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tf kinda rld tech is that

viscid swift
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Max and on the faster BBs without jamming

atomic abyss
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max

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yeah imma just ignore that then

viscid swift
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For zwei anyway

sweet delta
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I mean izumo gun with autoloader will also be too slow for you then...

atomic abyss
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i usually get 3 off to begin with

viscid swift
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With daisen gun you'll at least get part of a 4th Salvo off

sweet delta
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Daisen gun is better, ggez

atomic abyss
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i only get 4 with a 457

viscid swift
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Plus you don't have to scuff her auxes with an autoloader

stark quiver
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2x +11 autoloader

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btw is there a guide for syncing and other technical stuff

atomic abyss
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someone was supposed to make one

cobalt rapids
tulip thorn
eager mulch
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is this a shopping list?

tulip thorn
spring bolt
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@atomic abyss continuing from what i left last night and tested nagato meta, bayard still doing 135% of mainz damage, everyone was almost at full hp all the time so basically no damage buff for bayard. and she still did more than lv125 drake, pin me if you want the screenshot
i think it's solid enough to say CM boss is off and we should not test on them anymore

stark quiver
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can craft 5hvar is crazy

atomic abyss
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oh i think i saw the SS

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i am curious about the paper math on the other hand

stark quiver
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in harby battle, what would i want the firing order for vanny,bis2, and alsace to be?

spring bolt
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let me get the numbers

cobalt rapids
# tulip thorn Just copying to list what i need 1 20s ap bb gun ( champy/flandre ) 0-1 mk7 1...

conv tb means saiun, ju-87 d4, ryuusei and vit2 ( mode change )
1 457 +13 is nice for campaign but i think ure done with that part
and then theres subs and auxes left KievPray
which for aux is 3 white shells, 3 ( tables + hpfcr ), 1-2 black shells, 6 steam cata, 2 timing cv aux each, 1-2 rudders and then the remaining vang auxes u might be using like goldburn/manjuu and stuff
also vang guns is 1 +13 ply > 1 +13 mog gun > 1 +13 guam gun > the rainbow ca guns

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does mainz not have any synced timing with scorpios +60% dmg poison ?

atomic abyss
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paper says bayard shd do more ShiSleep

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about 15% more

cobalt rapids
#

what paper

atomic abyss
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toilet paper

cobalt rapids
atomic abyss
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and thats based on gunnery alone

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bayard barrage shd do more than mainz

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hmm

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maybe i'll test on helmet

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brb

tame jungle
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What’s bayard’s barrage like? It’s pretty spread isn’t it?

spring bolt
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CN model target is lv126, 75 eva 25 luck, ships are all lv125 100aff, double survival auxes, full tech bonus, weapons at +13, dps order is L, M, H
bayard with quad 152: 1293.8, 1189, 1125.8
mainz with quad 152: 921.5, 789.6, 681.3

tulip thorn
cobalt rapids
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i would do 1 more hindy gun and thats it
hindy can use unzen for light + drake and hindy + drake for the others

tulip thorn
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Oki tysm!

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What about the timing cv aux?

cobalt rapids
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beacon and these

tulip thorn
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Its so cute

weary scroll
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how to i get this team to farm 12 1? i need xp for fdg

cobalt rapids
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limit break em

atomic abyss
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and change the frontline

cobalt rapids
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alsace should alr be carrying

atomic abyss
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you dont need german frontliners to farm exp for fdg

forest palm
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2 of the ships in the main fleet don't count

atomic abyss
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alvitr is german no?

cobalt rapids
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SMS doesnt count ?

forest palm
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oh, right thought it was Strass ShiSleep

atomic abyss
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and the other is lutzow who is also german