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w13-3
w12-1 or 12-4 is good
w13-1 can also work though you'd need an AA carry
okay thanks
dialogue when you d30 a ship? that's actually when you unlock fate sim, not on dev30
who should i pick from PR6?
Shimanto is gud
kearsarge
well yes,
Shimanto , kear and hinden are all good for what they do, with Felix finding a role in PvP comps
does clearing mode has an effect to stats?
it reduces the ACV requirement and enables oil cap if there is oil cap
what should i get from the event store
hmm, i thought i would spend some on augment cores since i want saratoga augment
how viable would that be
there are other ways to get that other than event shop
is there any way i can get nelson other than the reward and requisition
i already retired mine years back 🗿
3-3, 5-4 and 10-3
current event T3 drops her too
ayt thanks will take note of these
Is 12 pounder or old heavy is better for some tempesta, like fancy on vanguard or ganji on rear?
wait nvm, there a demi cannon for main-fleet frigates
who is better for campaign soyuz or ultrich?
soy
Can META ships earn exp for prototypes?
no
Sadge
META ships belong to META faction
Is this a good gun, should I save core it??
it's decent gun but it's very very low in priority or almost not worth using core data
to get aircraft loading time, do i have to add all plane firing rate?
only ships that show up when you filter by that faction in the dock
So about this one, should I invest?
Is Haku usable in a triple opsi ijn fleet at dev 26?
unlikely
Unlucky
Not that much
depends on your cv rld tech
all backline research ship are usable on dev30
Is triple 380mm mle good?
it's a slightly faster/slightly less damage champy gun, which is to say it's for timing adjustment since you would otherwise just use champy gun
Full IJN CV fleet isn't even good for opsi where the bosses move too much anyways
is ulrich better in mob or boss fleet
Mob by far
As an off flag BB
Use avp over Haku then
is prototype 406 SAP ammo good?
will i have to switch herto flagship if she runs out of ammo
No
oww, even for medium armor boss?
in w13-w15. no need to switch in opsi or campaign below w13.
That's why you have champy gun
Better to +13 that then invest in another gun entirely
it has good damage against medium but is outclassed entirely by soyuz gun and the shell spread is conducive to needing to use ascension box aux on a vanguard, though that's a more minor problem. it's a questionable target for gold plates so to speak
ok thanks
Got this mark but nothing when clicked, or do I miss something ?
it's a bug
ah no wonder
the lighthouse? it recon the zone
oh isee, i keep using recon order lol that's why
what do we actually farm in OpSi? the one with yellow chests? the green exclamation? the coins or the blue ones
everythig with an icon on it
yes but higher = harder especially if you don't have high tuning
thanks
currently there is only 2 ship that can use Old Demi Cannon?
correct
think so yes
ok thank you 
is nagato meta heavy?
yes
thank you
@storm heron you got a problem with something?
Does the minigame have an ending or is it just for highest score purposes
pretty sure its just score
you dont even need to play it to get rewards, you can just quit instantly after opening it
What the best daily raid sub lvl to farm? I don’t any gear for my sub yet
95 if you can, 65 if you can't 95
the highest one you can complete
in the w15 guide, is the Twin 137mm really better than CL guns for BB aux in W15? 
It doesn't sound right, but if it is I'll do it
plygun is a cl gun 
as if I have one 
there's a summary page for the secondary gun testing
there is?
but ye the dd gun is good at killing suicide boat
oh, found it
it is also the same reason why pvp use it too 🫃🏼
Is there a guide for which ships to prioritise on a new account? For the PR1, 2, 3, 4, 5 research stuff
tldr
prioritise friederich de grosse and anchorage first above all other ships
set your focus to PR4
then look to august von parseval, agir and hakuryuu
once you get all those done + get a tenrai
move to pr5 to get plymouth and brest
note that you can get fdg, anchorage, avp BPs with coins
real TL;DR is PR4
Agir fraud watch, Napoli is true DR
So what is DR and PR? Do these abbreviations mean anything? Is DR somehow better than PR?
I see, thanks
Do ships ever get buffed or nerfed? Or is the state they are in when launched is their final state? Disregarding potential retrofits or stuff like that
very very rarely
they havent buffed a ship outside retrofits and augments and fatesims for a good 3 years now
^
Ah wait
there was technically 2 instances
Agir and Hakuryuu were given quick buffs before pr4 launch
Harbin during the first week of pr5 debut was given a smokescreen buff

can someone give me a fleet for nakhimov
Drake needed a massive buff lul
For what?
whatever its good at

Depends heavily
When was the last time it happened and it wasn’t just a bugfix?
I haven't made anything up for medium yet
ok nvm too much work im not using her
well i already have other cv fleets so its more work than just using those
she is the arguably the best CV in the game after all
why pr4 focus? i was going off of this so i have mine on pr5 atm https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
holy shit, a guide on github lmao, that's amazing actually
if u just unlocked research go for pr5 and minmax ur protocores
minmax = convert all the exp things and buy the tenrai and 406mm/50 prints?
because sam's reasoning for starting PR5 now is kinda stupid
minmax = convert all the exp thingies and use the catchup from season 1-3 ( + DRs ) to convert to protocore
his reasoning is to start PR5 focus now since DR4 will be coinable from at earliest, january
its a good reason
Tenrai is more impactful anyway
i think it's a good reason as well
tenrai will be in gearlab
what means coinable?
the issue is umi
gear will also be going to lab so yeah
he's been giving that advice since july
buy research dev blueprints with coins
i dont even have the tech to start any pr2 ships so maybe waiting for pr4 coin up will work out?
oh, but yeah by the time i can actually work on those i assume they will be coinable
thats another thing 
i still find it kinda silly since we dont even know for sure it'll come in Jan
and then really, so what if they do
it just means you've already done half the work needed to max them
the only important things in PR5 are Ply, her gun and Brest
harbin is very strong but is hardly relevant
the existing ships in PR4 are still far more impactful
because longterm ull pull more ahead by focusing 5
half the work that could be used on pr5
while u will be able to concurently coin pr4
theres no high coining prio besides fdg so till it becomes coinable u can just finish her then start right away on haku
aegir<>brest equiv rn
the golds are coinable
so its just haku
then you'll have to dump more gearlab mats for the better PR4 gear
like you know, BF109Gs, tenrais and saiuns
just 1 tenrain gearlab
bf109/saiuns should be half protocored
so for example im working on ibuki rn and shes dev25, when she hits 30 i should swap my catchup to her to get prints to convert?
within said 2 months you'll get 1 set of BF109G and Saiun
but that involves better protocore management indeed
ibuki you can just use coins
Anyone know how to fix this?
I even reset my phone but it still like that when i click in operation siren
Oh okai ty i will test that
How to get more enhancement material
just keep running event/campaign normally
Grind more
any way to grind blueprints for a specific character fast
this good?
how much hp does taiho in w13h have?
research is a slow grind, youre supposed to take 2-3 months for a pr ship and arnd 3-4 months for a dr ship
if its a older season you may be able to coin them
is Proto Twin 90mm better on Sandy or Anchorage?
game forces you to complete a whole season at a time so you should be done with an entire season by the time you hit 4 months
anchorage, give a roomba or sexy to sandy
...a what???
a sexy, a roomba
ah
how strong is amagi 2?
Hella
one of the best carriers in the game
same power level as nakhimov?
yes
can mogador still unalive herself coz of her skill?
oh wow
too bad i dont have ur bulins, i have so much non mlb ur idk what to mlb first
i have all the URs but not all are mlb rn
lets see what URs you have then
Is t5 event better stage to farm exp and currency?
But does it also drop the canon drop's?
t5 is better oil/point, but t6 has better exp/oil
it drops a different weapon print too
when you get 4 UR bulins, push alsace to mlb
also, you may want to unlock friederich de grosse
Ohh i see. Ofc she's FS5
should I do the event stuff first on a new account? or just progress main missions?
Hmm
i need coin
i have like 70 k spare oil.
For the current fleet for meta boss fight, Impla should be the one launching first, right?
I have all the ur except eldridge coz too lazy to farm exercise, and still have to unlock nakhimov and napoli at least.
What's the drop rate of the weapons canon print? Is it really That rare? i get it each run 
event imo, try to get enough points to obtain the meowficer Every and whatever else you can
amagi instead of alsace first
since you can make do with musashi bz and soyuz
while amagi is a notable upgrade to shinano/hakuryuu
she also buffs them
at 68k point, only farmed t5
(i am doing it for exp/oil with lower level ships and also purple plate farm)
Oh woww
drop rate is also unknown and depends on if rng likes you
suffice to say the rate is pretty bad but exact specific is not really known
its 50/50, you get it or you dont only 2 outcomes 
technically there is more, since from boss you can get either 1 or 2, and from all drop total theoretical possible per run is 5 

i only farmed t5 enough to get ganj a gun (sao already has her own from before)
back at t6 to try for amity drop
previous event ships do not drop at all from any map
Does that mean alsace is much stronger than them 3?
No
Alsace is the same level as Bis2 and Soyuz and only slightly better than Musashi
Amagi is an upgrade to Shinano and Hakuryuu
+alsace generally better for shorter fights, but starts* to lose out to say vanguard in longer ones
how does amagi fair against the other cvs in med
around how much stockpiled ap would one begin doing c1 
The next best after Yk2 and Nakhi
since its just 368k bursting her down might be an option for me
ty
that's pretty high, I farmed around 35k at t5 and only got 16
i think i got the first one around 40k but got luckier after, dont quite remember tbh
I got 8 when i had 7k farmed 
not the most accurate either way cos of the onetime point stuff but yeah
rng is a fickle mistress
would daisen gun be better than twin 410 kai for w13h on sushi
100k and 98 prints
huh
At that point unironically might as well use 457

can't w15 comp work on 13-4h?
(just use izumo gun dammit)
but the barrage loses a lot of dmg that way, and its mostly the barrage doing the area dmg
If you need to desync
Use autoloaders
nah, i used 1 2 1 fleets for w15 so i cant reuse them
if i did my boss fleet would just explode 
what is 1 2 1
only last map has 3 bosses

Oh right sorry
that's... very confusing... as i have no idea if 1 is boss fleet or 2 is 
1 is mob
2 is boss fleet
Should i be reseaching saint louis or roon
imo 1 2 1 doesnt make any sense compared to 2 1 2 but whatever works
and my w15 boss fleet is like, soy indep percy 
who uses 2 for mob and 1 boss layout
i had much higher winrate with 121 compared to 212, but that differs based on what you have
like arent you just doing way more stuff out of ammo
yea, but it needs less good ships
tbh I manualed hard too in w15 
just save some ammo and do 112 
if i had more good ships 212 would prob have higher winrate
I replaced percy with amagi cv in my w15 212 comp, maybe could work
Roon would be better for progression in terms of unlocking fdg
why did you even use percy
in any case my fleet 2 was basically crossfleet
it not gonna work in w13h
i have like 10k spec core, would i be able to mlb guam from lb0 and make it in time for next ur
would you even need guam
ye it is
cool screenshot
cuz i wanna use her, no special reason
if i cant make it then ill just save
probably 1 bulin short
Isn't next event likely a 2 UR one?
no
2 ur is just random isnt it
and next UR event is like 1.5 months away
Should I do war archives? I am maxed on the currency
just let it cap if you dont need anything from it
just get lucky and pull 2 new urs and issue resolved
Isn’t there some good drops tho?
im cooked if its a double ur, i have like 230 cube
imo it's good when you need something, like the heels, 4 runs per day shouldn't be that detrimental
So what should I do?
people only do it for like, iron blood points, jda or heels afaik
if youre good on iron blood points you can safely ignore
I need iron blood points for FdG
only if you want a ship from it, i guess. dont make it a priority just let it sit till you have spare oil and a waifu to collect
then do chessboard
there's a guide about the obtainable IB tech from the compendium
i would avoid doing warchives during an event though, it stacks up for a reason heh
if you can get tirp or bis from medal exchange, it will be easier
yea always prioritize event first, I was so done with my farm I forgot that no 1 rule
if not early game then yea prob a good idea to medal instead
also, z20, z21, Deutschland drops from current event, if you haven't got them from somewhere else
correct
I just got my 6th UR T3 ord,
do i carft my first 457 or wait for a 3rd Tenrai?
My ur gear are 2tenrai and 2 wyv
Wait for gear lab update
Get your 457 gun from protoshop
Third tenrai is not that important
I was thinking to get a ply gum from prot
U will eventually have enough protocore to get all the UR gear there
Can craft 457 but also maybe they release a new cracked gear that uses the ords
They are not that easy to farm
457 is just a luxury mob gun 
It's ok tu use blank ur to craft a mk7?
Sure
U said u have 2 wyverns already so crafting 1 mk7 is fine
Although it wont be a major boost till u +13 it and that is pretty expensive and u have other guns to +13 first
Those ur rss are really slow to get i'm scare to make mistake lol
Chamy gun it the +13 prio and after that? For main gun gold plate?
It is good to double check
Yes champy gun is best to +13 first
If u want to min max/more u can do 2 champy guns and last one could be soyuz or flandre gun depending on what BB u use later on
But 3 champy is also fine
Great dmg oriented CV. Probably the best CV u have access to as a beginner
i am having amagi cv and shinano in my fleet with biscuit,is there another shipgirl that i can switch
Normal bisko or zwei?
If normal then u should change her if u have better options
Where is this fleet fighting
Also are amagi and shinano full star?
norm
uh t5
i'd replace biscuit with implacable / AVP / ark retro
not full
ouch non MLB
trying to seek another replacement
Screenshot your backline ships
Lets see what u have to replace them
ok hold on
that being said, since it's event map t5 it doesn't really matter
He can use it to raise a second fleet
Better than getting xp on non mlb ships 
true
i am also screenshooting my reserve,and 2 subs
maybe better in a thread though
i am getting decimated so i need help
ok
is there a setting where my secretary will randomly change to a different skin
i sent in the thread
can you help me
Both of them won't be doing shit at 0LB so Enty go brrrrr
i'm a bit confused. i have a cutscene in the private quarters, with this glowing circle, but nothing i do has any effect. press and hold, press and drag, nothing works. anyone know what to do here?
enty is cheaper to build
Click?
ive tried that
hey guys how long does it take for the request recon function to lower back to 0AP
30 mins
It should be click because it works for me, restrart or you can fix assets on the setting
restart did it. thanks
what should I prioritise for all of these stages?
I only put Anchorage in PR4
oh wait, you can only do one, otherwise it removes the other option, nevermind then
if I'm prio Anchorage I suppose I should do research projects in this thing taht can give me Anchorage bp?
anchorage is correct
after she is finished u can put it on FdG (in pr2)
for research projects get agir/haku first imo
anchorage can be coined once u develop her so u can get her BP easier that way
wait, so you mean I should prioritise Anchorage, but for research projects I should look for agir/haku?
or wait, the projects for PR4 can give bps for any of them anyway, right?
also, if a project says requirements "clear chapter 7 or onwards", that means it won't do anything if I start it? if I haven't passed chapter 7
What are gear points? Liek how do I get more?
Gear points?
Do you mean tech points?
Yes
/fleettech
Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:
- Collecting the ship (~20%)
- Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
- Achieving level 120 (~35%)
-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD
Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.
For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki
yes catchup (the thing u have on anchorage right now) just gives u free blue prints
so for example if u take a 2.5h agir research u will get 1-2 agir blueprints +1 anchorage
for longer research u get more anchorage
but it caps at 300 for each season for the PR ships
u also get 150 for agir and 150 for haku
with anchorage once u have her developed u can buy 10 blueprints per day for her at a very cheap price
for agir and haku u cant do that
so it is better to start working on them sooner than later
for your last question yes but u should also avoid taking those researches as much as u can
best to take D, Q, G research if u can
Wait does it mean like if I collect dupes as well?
is there a reason why amagj bc was a meta in pvp before?
each of the 3 point sources only count once
Dupes do not count
Idk go ask #pvp
has anyone bought this ? or do they know if it changes anything?
So I just have to upgrade a lot of ships? Like if I get roon how many more would I need?
u can check on wiki for individual ships
sam also has a guide for KMS points https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms
Yes
As for how many ships you need, depends on the ships themselves
Tho for PR1, you only need to get X amount of ships of the applicable factoon
I think it is basically an interactable scene but not sure
for non-gameplay things u are better off asking in #al-general or maybe google it, sometimes ppl make videos of these things
where can i find the class of the ship? like king goerge class for ex.
its just a furniture that has slightly different "interact" behaviour
either the wiki or the fleet technology menu in game
thanks
This new research appeared after one of those patches and while it was hard to drop a UR weapon design piece, it made it more difficult
huh
At level 87 I still don't have any decent UR weapon
that looks like a season 1 research and season 1 doesnt have UR equips in the pool
Considering that level 87 really doesn't take much time to reach, the fact that higher rarity doesn't automatically mean better for anything, and the fact that you think PR1 researchers are new when they are, in fact, the oldest, yeah...
isnt getting season 1 also impossible w/o setting the focus to 1, which is a p bad idea
that or setting research focus to no focus
Should I replace ranger with this?
nah
Really?
yes
really
get enty from medal shop and replace ranger with her 
But almost every streamer shows them in their fleet build and when they show their depot, I see dozens of those UR weapons, did they give them at the former events ?
Ok
first, streamers have been playing this game a lot longer than you probably
I don't have enough medal of honors
second, UR gear is obtained from one of 4 main ways
Prototype shop, research, the gear lab, and on occasion from events
I only have 37
So I shouldn't check any ships at all at research
Set it to PR4 focus
u can get more when u farm
retire dupes of rare and elite ships that u dont need for more medals
then replace ranger
replacing her with anyone else is not ideal since u would just replace them later with enty anyway
the first 2 are gonna take a few months of grinding to get even just one piece of UR gear and we haven't had an event that gives UR gear for a few months
retrire dupes of rare or higher rarity
Retiring ships blue rarity and above
my 2nd line explains it 
Thx
Sorry
@twin isle give this a read when u can
it explains research and which ones to pick https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_academy
looks like Sam is recommending PR5 focus now 
Are we supposed to buy and do those file missions
level 87 is nothing though
i just hit level 94 and im not even at 2 months yet
I didnt see the reply, did try google/youtube first and saw nothing
lars answered here #gameplay-help message
but yeah sometimes ppl are slow or just dont upload these things 
Most gem related things which have no impact on game performance/progression have little to no player documentation because so few people get them.
Thanks for the intel
Should i 125 nelson?
id say no
Nelson is only used for new players progressing. There are dozens of better BBs.
she is great but overshadowed by all the URs etc, and arrays are scarce. so i'd only consider it if you really like her as a waifu and intend to use her continuously in difficult content despite better options existing. so in most cases - no
thoughts on what I should get next?
idk about "dozens" shes one of the better gold bbs last i knew, and very reliable
Should enterprise be flagship?
cognitive arrays and cognitive arrays
Cog chips/arrays.
What about auxiliary gear pieces?
granted, bbs as a class are heavily saturated
The new ships you can buy as needed for tech/when you have spare cores. Gears that you want are the black/white shells, and a few copies of snorkels/purple hulls for sub.
What is cognitive for?
Well, give me a moment and I’ll show you what I actually have
120 and 125 level ships.
Oh
chips are for awakening ships past lv100
arrays are for awakening ships past lv120
she can be any spot, no flagship priority
Thx
get the chips/arrays then make sure u have 3 each of these
looks like u have the other priority stuff
Does it matter which one of those I do first?
chips/arrays first
then get the 2 gear
either is fine u want to use them together
but looks like u dont have the purple one atm so get the purple first if low on coredata
after that u can get some rainbow oxy torps but they are very expensive so make sure u grab chips and arrays every month first
The rainbow oxytorps are entirely not worth using, only for collection/if you really know what you're doing and want to trade survivability for a little bit of extra damage.
ECTL has them as recommended gear for subs but you would basically never use them on subs, the pressure resistant hull gets the sub closer to the target for better accuracy and the snorkel lets them get out another salvo. Only a handful of subs don't need the snorkel or the hull.
I didnt mean for subs
Once u have all the other priority gear from core shop why not grab a few oxytorps?
They are pretty good in bossing
For example in this meta fight
they are worth buying if you set your priority straight, you can use them on subs if you know why the ectl team are reccomending them or you are using 95kai
but they are also useful on non subs sometimes
like any other off aux u need to know where to use it of course
All of the above is additional context for what I originally said, doesn't change my conclusion. I don't disagree they can be used in places, but their benefit is marginal and their cost is high and it's easy to use them incorrectly and be worse off for it.

Oxy torps as much as we shit on them do actually have value, just a low denominator as it only really applies to subs, and the price make it a low priority purchase, it's not that Oxy Torps are worthless it's that they don't make as much an impact to your overall gameplay as some other Core Data items do
Bit of a dumb question but I cant find the collection menu anymore, where was that? The thing where it shows you to collect certain ships and you can claim gems
just to the bottom left of the formation button on the main menu is a tiny button press that then you should see the menu switch, and there you should find the memento tab
It's just a bug, no it will not charge you actual money
either way it'd have to forcably bring up a menu
this $1 is most common in event cutscenes where that replaces your name
spaghetti code 
so im guessing that whatever causes that is also happening here
Smol indie studio pls understand
truly a start up studio
just crafted a second wyvern, is it recommended to get three?
This is on the right track now rite
Does the missile special attack and the torpedo special attack debuff stacks?
2 at min
you'd want 3, but the 3rd isnt as high prio
yea it looks fine, tho you might want a db for campaign
Please answer me I'm currently clearing 14-4 😭
ok. guess i'll keep enough electronics for another, ty
what torpedo special attack
those are missiles
what torp special attack, you dont mean subs do you?
The submarine attack mode thingy that debuffs the enemies
That missile spaecial attack does -10% it think to enemies but I dunno what it reduces
sub hunting attacks take out a portion of all enemy's HP
Reduce each individual enemy ship's HP in the affected enemy fleets
i know it doesnt stack with justice
but it shd stack with subs
Alright alright thanks
Are the blueprints in depot > craft used for any bigger gear lab recipes or can I just spam craft all I have?
gear lab can use blueprints or the crafted gear, so don't worry
more like don't spam craft randomly 
Ok tyy
my Hezemeyer stocks getting smaller cuz GearLab exist is ... 
How many staags are u crafting 
i swear i saw people on multiple occasions say that mgm+1 counted as shots for all out assaults, so i just sat here and tried to count shots amidst the chaos and my plymouth with mgm+2 didnt fire a single aaa in like 15 shots, did i misunderstand something?
who should i use my pr5 catchups on
because ply aoa is in 18 shots
besides the DRs? harbin is the best of the golds
no i meant i counted the "salves", must have not seen it
if math maths it should fire an aaa every 15 ish secs, really doesnt feel that way
is your ply maxed?
ya
what gun
18*2.56/3 and giving it some margin for being out of range should fire the aaa around 5 times per meta battle, ill see it maybe twice
look harder
I'm confused about something, sometimes when I repeat a stage, after the fight is over, the game goes on as if I press the confirm button on its own
is that normal, did I select something without knowing?
just barely doesnt make it in time for the 4th
you probably selected repeat stage
hey, no shaming, i just got that gun a while ago 😔 im giving my best to upgrade it
make sure u consult the /plus13 command or ask here
not everything is worth +13 but ply gun is okay
or should i first do moga gun? im running her in the same fleet anyways
no you prio non rainbow stuff first usually
your gold gun plates shd be prio for champagne guns first
even if i have the ur bb gun?
consider that UR items use up 3x the amount of plates
and that the out of the 2 UR BB guns
one is for light armour
the other that is also AP isnt used for bossing much - it doesnt sync with helena
0 reason to +13 a 457, and an MK7 isn't gonna see much use so that's a lower prio
so the one fdg is holding goes first regardless? aight
yes
do i keep the mk7 on alsace tho? or is the +13 champ better for general use? (im not much for swapping stuff around)
you change according to the enemy
if you're too lazy to swap around
you might as well ignore +13 stuff entirely
cos the best BB gun to keep on while lazy are the HE guns
less about being lazy and more about not knowing when to use ap or he
well, currently im just running daily meta fights into siren auto and then spam event t6
i feel like the gun doesnt matter too much during opsi auto or t6 spam, but moreso for metas
(since im occasionally not twoshotting nagato)
general advice
for mob > twin 457 gun (the rainbow one)
for light armor bossing > triple 406 mk6 and mk7 (mk7 better but mk6 is fine for a beginner)
for medium/heavy armor bossing > triple 406/50 MLE (the one u have on FdG) and its sidegrades
syncing with what tho, helena?
yes
i feel bad for saying this, but since the last 2 months have been just me leveling ships almost randomly based on their usefulness i havent used helena even once 
there are other factors but more or less yes
u will be hard pressed to find sth better at the same price
there are other niche cases like musashi cant use this gun
and sometimes for specific fights other guns might be better
but for >90% of the time u can use champy and not worry much
helena is like
the most useful CL to level up as a new player
how have you not levelled her
is this good
i have dev30 plymouth tho
she is used with ply lol
Does Plymouth debuff 40%
where is the 60% chance 
and her buff is far stronger than ply, only rng
do i replace moga or ägir then
Moga
mog
imagine if your plymouth does 40% more damage for 10 seconds
If you replace your tank everything’s gonna explode
but i like my mommy 
guess shell have to be in a separate one then
radar on helena? heard it breaks syncs
no radar if you're using 2 shells
alright, hopefully last question, do i replace nj or fdg with someone else here? dont really have much to offer but i do have a maxed vanguard and a shina with a tenrai
maybe thats better
fdg for vanguard
is new jersey good and what do need to think about when using her?
the thing to consider with NJ is that a lot of other UR battleships will outperform her nowadays
Shinano > NJ == UvH > Shima in terms of who to get from perma pity
NJ and UvH are on the lower end of the UR BB spectrum
good if MLB
not worth UR bulins imo if u didnt invest in her yet
ive only invested her own copies
if i only have one champ gun and can only buy up to 20/25 bps is it still worth trying to sync the 3 bbs?
do you have a flandre gun
well there is no trying
if u have other options u can use sure
if u have 457 use that instead and if not use mk6/mk7 for now
i have no idea what a flandre gun is
the uhhh pr6(?) french AP that looks similar
triple 380mm sth sth
so shimakze is not worth investing in?
the first one here or?
no the 4th one
if its pr6 only probably not
just get champy slowly and use mk6/7 for now
no reason to spend protocore on this when u can get it later for free
not like u are struggling
very low prio
nowadays most of the top DDs are gunboats, not Torp focused lik Shima
i kinda prefer that thing on alsace 
i dont think i can sync with these
where are your purple guns
give NJ a mk6 and u are fine
the triple 406mm mk6 is the next best HE gun after than rainbow one
and its purple
uhhh
you have 3 of them
although if u are fighting heavy/medium give alsace the gun on FdG
ya but is it really still better than the big fp and multipliers from the other guns?
short on coin but ill give it a shot
it's the 2nd best HE gun as i said
oh but nagato is heavy armor
it's not like you have more than 1 good AP BB gun
if its the same armor type in the meta encounter
so you dont really have an option
ah i see but if i got her by chance would she be worth using im not that far in the game
no
oh wait they are already +10 for some reason 
you'd need her to be MLB
and the dupes are gonna be hard to come by
if you need a torper for whatever ungodly reason, ibuki exists
from research
ah ok thank you for the help
im poor on cl guns, what do i give the helena?
the twin 150mm?
this is good enough i hope, anything else i need to do to sync the bbs up?
if you're running the things that shave 15% off first reload for bbs then use SG radar
if u have spare T2 ordnance reports upgrade one of the triple 155 guns to the kai version and u can use that instead
u will want 2 for ch 14 anyway so not like the resources are wasted
otherwise the gun u have on her is fine for now
she is mainly there for her buff
what things? i have the purple guns on the bbs you told me to use with these ships now
good thing it's Helena, and her damage amounts to piss, so you can be frugal with her guns 
rainbow fire control table thing or the gold high-standard fire control radar
these?
these 2
Timing adjustment
for me it allows me to get an extra shot in in meta fights
rainbow table is just insane in general
yea i know, but i have the ur thing on alsace already, so do i run the gold ones on the other 2 or give alsace a bullet instead? (im really hating this syncing already)
if u are not sure what to run just run radar + white shell
it is the better option most of the time
But yeah that means also running SG radar on helena
replace the black shell with a HPFCR if u have
Also how much bb rld would I need + fcr to get a 4th salvo off
got enough, but i dont have the coins to +10 them
i don't quite get full salvo but it's close (i'm baby with 5 rld and use flandre gun on alsace)
they at least fire, but it's not the full salvo for me
oh yea with the ur thing my alsace fires one, the main shots hit but then the meta runs off
i got one to +6 
i gotta spam some stages again
i had 230k two weeks ago or something, then i had a full week of almost pure face researches and some other stuff like azuma
for nj i also replace black shell for hpfcr?
if you're using her with a SG Radar helena sure
In meta fights get more value if they manage to hit their 4th salvo
In opsi most of the time they have annoying debuffs around 20s so using radar is just recommended there imo
Regardless sometimes the extra acc from radar is better on some bosses I think
U can try running both and see what works best for u
Till u get more RLD tech
oh yea, my tech is awful, barely have lvl 3 on all the factions and havent targeted stats yet
ehh, i lost 50k from removing either mogador or fdg or from lowering equip to sync :c
actually more, ply wasnt dev 30 yesterday and only dealt 80k
Still 2 shot so not like it matters much tbh
But also there is rng
Maybe helena just didnt scan enough
got the purple one for now. I guess I will next get two more parascopes and then move onto either cog arrays or save up for UR torp next. Whichever you think is best
I would get the chips and arrays over the sub gear first
U should have enough for all tbh by the end of the month
Ignore the UR torp for now
U can only buy 1 of the sub gear each month anyway
Is there any guide or order to clear archive?
War archive?
I don't think so
are there comps out for this months cm
Just do wht U want on there
or is it just ur
Basically i just clear it all then
i
divergent chessboard if u want ironblood tech
passionate polaris for the cosmic kicks (not really high priority)
rest is w.e
ignore as a beginner
farm for collection later if u want
Strategies and example fleets for each month of the constellation extreme challenge mode in Azur Lane.
tank yew
Ya clear on Ur free time
Chessboard !
here we go 
How do I sync Alsace bis2 and vanny for anti light
Like what loadout to use
for what battle
if its a very long battle then copy https://suchiguma.github.io/ChallengeMode/November/#french
Helmet, bis2 firing first 💀
I guess so
So bis, vanny, alsace
are the cats in event shop good
Should I retrofit Karlsruhe and Köln? I saw someone run it on PVP on a fleet that doesn't seem to be a wife fleet.
No
Unless you want collection
wouldn't take most defense fleets in PvP serious
90% of defense fleets are absolute memes
Defense in PvP means basically nothing so people often just run complete wack shit
Ranger Helena and a dream
is it just me? whenever i enter the private quarters, game crashes
it is just you
like, it's only when i try to enter it after a leave it on idle.
the one time i randomly clicked it i also crashed 
same
same
jean bart good off flag? compared to howe, is she any better?
she's much worse than Howe
thanks
I exchanged for Mary celeste from the event shop but im wondering why I can't put her on my team
she is only usable in submarine fleets
oh thanks I forgot to check there
Who should I mlb first?
depends on your other URs
disclaimer: dont partially limit break your URs like this using bulins
amagi so you'll have 3 MLB UR CVs
Ok thx
Is it worth getting the UR exchange now? Or just wait for the new UR to be implemented?
Already have the ones in the current UR roster
are all of them mlb?
Yes
Yep
is it a good option to mlb amagi carrier rn or is it a better option to wait for the new UR to arrive?
if you have 4 I would MLB Amagi now
What ships are recommended for W13?
In a short anti light battle, would it be better to run alsace bis vanny or
Alsace bis soyuz
Helmet? the latter
CVs, ships with good AA
In what situation would vanny be better?
good question
I guess in a particularly long fight Vanny would potentially be better than Alsace
Are any of these any good?
Btw the latter means 2nd option correct?
yes
Bf-109Gs from PR4 if you don't have 4 of them and Ju-87ds from the latter
What are they good for if you don't mind me asking?
Bf-109G is the best fighter against light and medium armor assuming you lack the HVAR Hellcat and La-9 respectively
Ju-87d is one of 4 joint best converging torpedo bombers, used against single target bosses
Would they be good on shinano if this is my current set up
I know it's bad rn
your setup has bigger problems. Namely the BTD-1 is simply worse than purple Helldiver SB2C
But would the other planes be good on her?
well the Seafang is pretty much the poverty fighter considering how easy it is to get
on a single target boss assuming the same enhance level and not accounting for individual ship skills
Fighters(Light): HVAR > La-9 > Bf-109G > Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet
Fighters(Medium): La-9 > Bf-109G > HVAR > Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet
Fighters(Heavy): La-9 > Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet
Dive Bombers(Light and Medium): Skyraider > Tenrai > Helldiver
Dive Bombers(Heavy): Tenrai > Helldiver
TBs(All armor types): Saiun/Ju-87d/Ryuusei/Vit-2(mode change)
Flex Slots(Light): Skyraider > HVAR > La-9 > Bf-109G
Flex Slots(Medium): La-9 > Skyraider > Bf-109G > Saiun/Ju-87d/Ryuusei/Vit-2(mode change)
Flex Slot(Heavy): Saiun/Ju-87d/Ryuusei/Vit-2(mode change) > Tenrai > La-9 > Helldiver
For Campaign
Fighter: Flapjack >= Tigercat/Sea Hornet > Hellcat >= F4u Corsair
Dive Bomber: Tenrai > Helldiver
Torpedo Bomber: Wyvern ~= Spearfish > Breguet > Barracudda
if you copy it every time, it's harder to edit in the future because people can still search for outdated versions
We need that shit as a bot command
Thank you for the help everyone much appreciated ☺️
/equip exists :MURM:
it does but it's also not the most intuitive to figure how damage between different types compare which is why I even cooked this up in the first place
what makes the Flapjack better than the Tigercat anyway? the slower plane speed causing it to shoot more planes?
among other things yes
oh and the nearly 2 second faster intercept reload
Sea hornet dive
which path should I choose for mk7 crafting
like is 6 gold ordinance or 2 rainbow gear bps rarer
I haven't invested gold plates in mk6 yet
if I go mkdt0 path I need to spend 6 gold ordinances
so I wonder which one is better value
You don't need to invest gold plates into 406 Mk6 anyways
Mk0 path is cheaper overall
Namely the difference in electronics cost
Question, for a character like Fancy that has a shield, if I give her an auxiliary that also gives a shield at the start of battle do they stack?
I dont think any (relevant) auxes even do that
Unless you're talking about the shield gear skin which is completely cosmetic
so maybe I should still go with mk0 path
(and just to confirm, rainbow bps are still rarer than gold ordinances right)
you could say so yeah
Mk6 path also uses more Electronics
Its a towel auxiliary from the Singing event a while back
I dont even know if its good tbh
Niche af
is there any updated tier list with detailed information about building characters etc, i'm a little lost there
there's various equipment guides in #bot-spam /equip
How is marco polo gun ? :/
meh
That 50 modifiy damage to heavy look discouraging
definitely no worth using
Niche vs medium and that’s it
even on Med it's not worth using 
Also i look over all the BB gun in gear lab , no BB gun that have highest modified damage to heavy armor ?
Only Musashi gun is gear toward heavy ? I dont have it since i just start to play a few months ago.
just stick to the 406/50 
Champagne gun is your go to for both anti-med and anti-heavy
Musashi gun is too slow to be syncable
Musashi gun isn't a go to since its a really high dealing dmg BB gun in exchange for high cooldown, like the triple 406 mk6 Prototype...
Use it if you don't really care about syncing and just pure dmg (really not advisable)
I advise it for meta showdown on some bbs
I know I'm late, but to give an actual answer to your original question, yes, hp shields stack
alrighty ty!!!
If i get a "game over" can I spend some gems to reset my ships? Just trying to best event 6 and uhh I don't think this second fleet can kill 2 waves
So my main kill 4
use double line formation for more vanguard eva. and try manual
it's a waste of gems btw
Just retreat, do other stages you can atm, work on gear and level up more. You still have several more days.
using 4 tempesta + houshou meta as a newbie isn't going to end well
how does this work? i counted the ships i don't own. they're like 23 ( 3 farmable . 15 collab and 5 pr) .and no where near 48
retrofits also count
oh?
i see
collabs count?
hmmm so i need to farm 3 . build 5 pr. and retrofit 40 kekw
everyone require lvl 85 minimum to retro?
the commons only need level 80
all higher rarity ships need level 85, I think Kasumi requires level 90

think lvl 90 is for the skill if they have
not for Kasumi
ah
her modernization is stuck behind level 90
that's unique
some wild arts i been missing by not doing retrofit.
do the elites become good after retro in general ? like Colorado Maryland and West Virginia
they become better, better enough to bother using usually not
i see
what ship yall usually use to clear low level stages in events?
unicorn + ddg works
allow me to introduce
sorry who is ddg?
DDG
does T6 count as low level? 
no
which tempesta ship is best?

best for what?
Who would you guys say is a better tank. Anchorage or Pittsburgh?
anchorage
Anchorage
Anchorage ranks among the top tanks, Pittsburgh is a mid tier CA 
More research for me. I was about to settle for Montpelier
some do, some dont
the ones you listed become decent enough to use if you like them, basically slightly above average gold BBs
which while obviously overshadowed by numerous other ships is still a huge upgrade since theyre all basically unusable pre-retro
best as in "most viable"?
fancy, easily. the rest are...well "mid" is generous imo, but fancy is alright
and amity might have niche use for boss debuffing or something im not sure lol
Can I level this after I craft it? Or only when I craft it?
yea most viable, i have all the cannons farmed so idk which to use
fancy wants 12 pounder guns which are core data only. old heavies are suitable but not ideal
yea im still way too new to get those
also worth noting is that for her to be at all a viable option, she needs a sail component which is also core data only - so she is not a good option for a new player
i dont plan to use but was just wondering which was most useful
+++she REALLY wants her augment so she is high invest needed for a decent ship
How do you get an Shan now
you don't
you wait for lunar new year
you can level it anytime after you craft it. But gold augments are very useless before level 10, so might as well craft and enhance all at once
and i wouldn't recommend z23's augment
augment is very slow to get (cos 15 cores) so prioritize very impactful augment first...starter ones are nice but nowhere near as impactful as some others (like hood, sara, etc)
When I was looking at the tier list, it had her specifically WITH her Augment. So that's where my brain was. What augment would you suggest her with?
most ship with unique augment want their unique augment, the issue is resources and priority
Just don't give her one, or give her one you got as a drop, until you get around to crafting her unique.
Well, I have these 6.
eventually you will augment z23 with her augment but she is lower priority than other augments due to how slow you get augment core
yes her augment makes her better, but the problem is that even after augment, she's not late-endgame-worthy enough to justify the cost
i kinda regret doing laffeys but it is admittedly nice for mob sustain
Should I augment any of those ships at all?
but ye prioritize high value augment
only z23 has a unique augment and you shouldn't
im sure someone here has a list of the most gamechanging augments
so just save for more important augments like san diego
Haven't even gotten around to beating Chap 5 yet, been farming the event. XD But okay~
also 5 of these need retrofit (helenas can wait a bit tho)
do uni > portland > nelson > z23 > helena imo (do z23 before nelson if needed for newbie mission)
I'm aware. But retrofit needs Hard clears, and that's the "hurry up and wait" I'm in right now. XD
is it true that anshan boasts similar level of dps as hindenburg
may be better at light

surprising no one not a lot really competes with Hindenburg's output 
I'm such a long way out from fs5 hinden 
guess I should copium taiyuan
Hinden doesn't even have Fate Sim 
I'm such a long way out from fs5 hinden
we all are
welp I'm at dev 10 lul
apparently even at dev15
she's only about equal to mogami kai (according to bili)
honestly 0 point in using her till dev 30
that's gonna be a long long way
also should I go for guaranteed 250~500 oil or chance of a cube (8hr)
cube
why not both?
no more slots
2 cube + 1 oil (all 8 hours) already halfway thru
and those 2 comms are expiring
Gems > Cube > Oil, always.
take chips over oil imo 
Oil turns into chips when you farm in w12, and you get exp/other drops that way too.
The amount of chips from comms is so low, I think you end up with more chips from the oil rewards anyways.
not even close
u need ~20 runs of 12-1 to get the same amount of chips u get from good comms
I did not know that
chips 
What is oil/cog ratio for 12-4 again?
265 oil/chip
40 chips for 10k oil
for 12-1
I thought it was much higher than that.
if u care about chips taking a 4 chip comm is better than 500 oil
i care about chips and coins 
the oil does give more than just chips but yeah 
although as a beginner I recommend u take the long overnight comms over the short chip ones since u will have more use for oil
but taking the 20-30 chip comms is a no brainer imo
what plebian needs chips
so the first one is better than last one?
How much oil do you have in mail storage?
maybe I will run short on chips when i raise more ships...currently sitting at 54k I think
I'd say if cubes, and gems aren't on the table then always take the chip coms
not much in mail storage honestly
no real argument there
and does anyone know what this is
just a commerative item
I've never seen that before, so it must be extremely old ...
it's from the Neptunia collab
man
I also still have the 2020 and 2021 NY invitations
but now they are all obsolete and prolly worth a few medals each
you either keep the letters as is, or redeem them to scrap them you still get a commerative item in your inventory
About to get the 4th rainbow bulin, who do I uncap? Soyuz or Amagi?
what commemorative item do I get
Amagi imo.
A letter from the ship you used the invitation for.
absolutely, even for new player
the thing with those long commissions is they're heavily weighted to give the lower end of the range shown, for the most part
so you can treat this as 150-180 oil vs 250-300 oil instead of comparing 230 to 500
and the chips are very valuable + more quick finishers never hurt anyone
you will always run out of chip eventually unless you just never raise any ships, the rate of exp far outweighs income of chips
I see 
for example single gold ship from 100 to 120 will wipe out 1/3rd of your monthly cog chip income from the lvl100 daily 
also: should I do 60 runs for cosmic kicks, or is just beaver tag enough for content
So I’ve been running Nano/haku/implac and yt2, enty, and avp for my two opsi cv fleets… where does amagi come into this picture?
if you’re doing pvp you can consider kicks, else not really
Replace Enty?
take out haku for cvmagi
ok maybe I should get kicks
haku is already benched? I thought she just got her fs5 not too long ago
Amagi CV Happened
6 TBs compared to Haku's 5 moment
i think kicks is nice as a backup eva aux but not top prio by any means
they will cap out and it's fine
only do warchives when theres something you really want from it that isnt obtainable/wise to obtain elsewhere
haku and amagi both have 5 TBs
but amagi has better slot eff and also buffs TBs and torps
I dunno, most ships seem mediocre and farming for gears sounds terrible
then dont farm war archives
the only things that people recommend farming in there is divergent chessboard for IB tech, and jda if you need her
Question, how do I completely leave siren missions, so I can reorganize my fleets to combat higher level enemies ?
thats exacltly why it's fine to let them cap out 
functionally War Achieves becomes more, and more useless if you have the ships there, some, if not most gear from it can be treated as negligible as well 
u only do it if theres something u really want from it, as i said ^
I was thinking about getting kii and collect all foxes
I did like 2 stages yesterday
and somehow it kicked me out and I had to start all over today from first stage
which was incredibly frustrating
the wise to obtain section is because some core data ships are farmable in warchives and imo its better to farm them than to spend the core data 
should be able to leave by tapping the outside perimeter of the map 

k I'll check it out tomorrow when I get back home from work. thanks.
Does collab ships contributes to shipyard xp development
just press outside of the map and enter a blue port, if this isnt a hidden zone youll be able to re-enter it
no
none of them would match the faction requirements.
why would collab ship from other faction contribute
to love ru ship coming in pr8
wows collab ships does
Collab and META ships don't, but Muse ships do.
Where exactly do I go to find this part ?
meta showdown, cruise pass, opsi port shops, and meta shop
huh meta shop is empty for me atm, I'll try looking in those other areas. thanks.
you would only need 2-3 black and white shells right?
3 white and 1-2 black
at least 2-3 pairs
however many you need is completely up to what said needs are
are you fine with gear swapping? then you dont need to get as much
do you not want to swap gears? then get however many you feel like you need
and white is more important than black right 
I already got 2 White and Black
It's the one out of the two that doesnt get yeeted when HSFCR comes into the equation since HIT stat is valueable
is Hood good with Champy gun?
depends on the enemy
I mean I usually use Hood on Mob
then no, stick to mk6 or twin 410
Champy gun for my future FdG then
Champy gun for most BBs outside of campaign except against light bosses
gun usage is mainly based on enemy, not ships themselves
i believe you have some BBs which may or may not include Hood doing medium/heavy bosses in opsi
Chat is the FuMo aux worth to use
which would be best to select? nj not MLB, nano MLB.
Idk i put it on sandy since my tanks are fairly doing good
since your NJ isn't MLB, get NJ
i could MLB any of them immediately once i select, just was holding off on NJ since wasn't sure if she's really worth doing it on
since i have alsace, vanguard, fdg
if that's the case just pick either of the unobtained ships 
then none of them are useful to use in combat. But you should pick UvH for opsi crossfleet
ok sure that's enough of a reason
other than nano, the 3 are all cross fleet
i would rate nj cross fleet being a little better
unless u dont count her butterflies as one
nano has actual uses in top fleet, not as a cross fleet, but yes, she does
ah ok thats what u meant
also uvh is bb rld +1 at lv120
uvh it is
do we have any guesstimates on when the next UR event should happen?
new years around that time
*December
December should have one or a double, and before that may or may not have Musashi
mid to late December
i've been waiting for musashi for so long qq
the main tossup on whether we'll get Musashi rerun this year or not is the one SR event that's in line to rerun first before Musashi
when that event gets rerun? who knows 🔮 
Could be before the collab, could be after
just started the game, what server do yall recommend?
doesn't really matter
amagi or sandy
Server is up to you, it makes no difference


