gameplay-help

[hollow gust]

There is like a dozen better guns

[atomic abyss]

Or yeah, twin 128 from gear lab

[lone knoll]

poverrty gear strikes again

and why does she use dd guns and not cl guns? I mean she can use both but why do you chose dd guns?

[atomic abyss]

DD guns deal more DPS

That's about it really

[hollow gust]

Dd guns have higher dps but lower alpha

[lone knoll]

so im left with twin 114 twin 128

[atomic abyss]

Twin 128

[lone knoll]

ok done thank you

[hollow gust]

Any of the screenshotted guns are good other

[lone knoll]

dont have ANY of those

[wary timber]

i gave the rainbow 100mm to Sandy. i interchange that gun with Shima when i need either ship active

[atomic abyss]

Shima wants 76 not 100 kai

[lone knoll]

torps i can just go with quad mags as per usual?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[lone knoll]

im left with this

can i just use washing machine or any other hp on aux?

[hollow gust]

Brother you said you don't have the screenshotted gun

[lone knoll]

i just crafted it!

didnt had any of those gold gear before I asked

just wanted to make sure

[hollow gust]

Also 76 is older meta now

[vocal sigil]

can i make a good sub fleet out of these?

[hollow gust]

U 37, 101 , 96 is fine

[vocal sigil]

[forest palm]

why not just use Leo over 101

[left cedar]

cuz wolfpack maybe ?

but yeah, 101 is so weak that make me think that maybe leo it will be better ... need test, and i'm not going to

[forest palm]

like 37 + 96 + Leo, or Archer + Alb + Leo sounds more productive, I'm willing to hear otherwise

[opaque gate]

is this a solid sandy build? aux could obv do better, but what should i put there?

[left cedar]

cursed as fuck auxes

[forest palm]

the auxiliary are the only issue

[opaque gate]

those aux are just placeholders xD, should i put washing machine?

[forest palm]

there's the blue rudder if you don't have a gold rudder

"Hydraulic Steering Gear", also tool kit, the SGR is junk

[opaque gate]

what is rudder

[forest palm]

the thing you called a washing machine

[glass basin]

the washing machine you were talking about

[silent relic]

worth it if i spend my 40 wisdom cubes to get NJ for UR exchange?

[forest palm]

Steering Gear is the blue rudder

[whole crypt]

we can just not raise subs unless he's actually a point where he needs to

[forest palm]

listen I'd agree, by Grey already gave them something

[opaque gate]

oh i thought hydraulic steering gear is washing kachine

[turbid latch]

does this mean that I can have the ship without researching for it?

[forest palm]

it has that in the name but it's "high performance"

[glass basin]

yes

[glass basin]

yeah it does kinda look like one at first glance

[turbid latch]

kinda broken

what do you recommend to get btw?

[opaque gate]

anti torpedo sucks?

[glass basin]

the build is usually rudder + toolkit, or bulge when there are many torps

[forest palm]

toolkit is just better for general use

[glass basin]

I personally would just grind for it, but out of all series 3 PRs Cheshire is best

[opaque gate]

ok thx, does anyone have a list of disassemble-able gears

safe to destroy geara

[ivory pawn]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

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🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
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[forest palm]

bombzen link

[opaque gate]

thanks

[undone plover]

No
Never pull perma
Next new event is a collab
Spending there will count for the NJ exchange anyway so you can get new units and get NJ that way
Kill 2 birds w one stone cube

[silent relic]

ohh i see... when that thing will be released

[undone plover]

Although u probably should get shinano over NJ
She is the better choice overall

[silent relic]

also i shouldn't have spent my 140 cubes on fancy in that case

[undone plover]

Second half of november most likely
We could have a rerun before then as well but not confirmed
Reruns usually come with free build tickets

[silent relic]

already have Shinano, just need another bulin to get her max break limit

same thing for my Amagi CV

[undone plover]

Pulling new events is ok
Tempesta is not the best faction but u get new units and it is okay to have some fun
But yeah if u are low on cubes save for collab/UR in december

[silent relic]

i also just got my Nelson retrofit

[silent relic]

getting gears problematic, one thing i never considered

[undone plover]

U can get the last nano dupe from the exchange and save on a UR bulin but up to u

[whole crypt]

these are all older generation research ships, some are still good but I wouldn't call being able to buy them broken, it's just pay to catchup

[silent relic]

i should get two UR bulins next month though, one from the cruise missions and one from the exchange

have one sitting in my dock rn

[undone plover]

It is not worth 100%
If u want to spend, spend on skins/rings/dockspace

[undone plover]

That is fair but we also get musashi rerun and new UR in december (maybe even 2 )
So if u can save on UR bulins as a new player it is worth it

[silent relic]

UUUU i need Musashi

[whole crypt]

Soon™️

[silent relic]

great great i should better save up for that and pass the collab then

[undone plover]

Saving UR bulins for musashi is better than getting NJ

[reef flume]

Chat what is that CN website that recommends fleet compositions? I remember there was one, can anybody give me the link?

[whole crypt]

nga or cn wiki

more rather what do you need exactly

[reef flume]

Just want to see some recommendations, that's it

[glass basin]

I usually go on bilibili wiki but it can be outdated

[whole crypt]

for what content though, unless you're happy navigating the moonrunes, I don't remember any site or page that's plainly a comp repositry

[wary timber]

should i retrofit Maryland for fun? ive already retrofitted all the recommended ones to

[silent relic]

strain in my docks

[glass basin]

her retro skin is so if you like her I don't see a reason not to

[undone plover]

Start MLB units for tech if u already have 2 decent teams
Working on USS and KMS tech is good
U want anchorage and FdG+AvP+Agir soon

[harsh charm]

Not for Baltimore and her low HP pool

[forest palm]

[hollow gust]

???

[forest palm]

what mental gymnastics is this

[harsh charm]

epic joke fail. nvm

[forest palm]

this isn't #al-general

[harsh charm]

forget it

[harsh charm]

Actually serious, formal version of it

[forest palm]

[glass basin]

so this thing is good in exercise right

[tame jungle]

think #pvp has spreadsheets for gear recs and stuff but afaik it's ok-ish

[undone plover]

Did homura replace archer in fishpack for single target?

[forest palm]

don't think so, bug Suchi he's the one that copes with Homura

[frank pulsar]

ive heard homura >= archerfish in fishpack but idk what are the conditions needed for her to be better

[silent relic]

when Alace rerun

[frank pulsar]

2 years later

alsace was very recent

[silent relic]

oh

[undone plover]

I think it was single target cause off-flag top struggles with that but I could be wrong which is why I wanted to doublecheck
Anyway thanks will ask sushi when he is up

[frank pulsar]

ye asking suchi prob a better idea

[whole crypt]

comment on his sub vid

[harsh charm]

how about Zwei?

Also what is the best Main BB(AP) gun in the game?

[frank pulsar]

like a year? idk

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

[soft raft]

Definetly not anytime soon

[harsh charm]

Mob.

[whole crypt]

yeh BisZwei is probably about a year from now

[spring bolt]

homura has better solo damage, and her oxy is high enough to use oxy torp instead of snorkel
but iirc 3 fishes still have better total damage

[harsh charm]

I see, so I will save for Musashi

[whole crypt]

probably 457, may depend on where you're mobbing

[undone plover]

Twin 457 for campaign and mob

Champy/soyuz/flandre gun for single target bossing especially if synced to helena

[whole crypt]

IIRC stig's tests had homura on top but results are specific to that CM and may vary depend on actual use case

[harsh charm]

Understood

[silent relic]

missed alot... i only joined when Steel Wings is still up

[harsh charm]

how about boss?

[hollow gust]

Mobbing doesn't care about what ammo type , it's about wether the gun is good or not

[silent relic]

[undone plover]

Depends on a number of factors
Do u have any gun at +13 already?

[harsh charm]

I specified it in case.

[silent relic]

but which research ship should i grind for

[harsh charm]

I have 15" MKII at 10

[dusky stream]

Just making sure, there's no gold IX(M) gun in this event, right?

[undone plover]

FdG + PR4 (anchorage + agir + avp especially)

[harsh charm]

and KGV gun at 10 too.

[whole crypt]

ch14 mobbing AP has advantage though, but again Depends™️

[undone plover]

Only on T5 map drop

[silent relic]

still a long way to go for Agir but Anchorage almost 300 to go

how do i earn tech points.

[keen sable]

Acquire, mlb, 120 ships

[undone plover]

3x champy gun is the usually recommended option for +13 and therefore using in AP bossing

However u might get better results with mixing the sidegrades of flandre/champy/soyuz depending on your comp and who u are using

[harsh charm]

champy?

[silent relic]

acquire which and what is mlb...

[undone plover]

Triple 406/50 mle 1938

[harsh charm]

far from getting

[undone plover]

U can buy 20 BP in protocore shop each month (series 3)
Need 25 to craft one and 75 for 3 guns

Or make it in gear lab if u have a lot of resources

[dusky stream]

Ah okay I'll grind that then, gotta get one for gunsway

[keen sable]

Max limit break. Ships of the faction tech you want

[harsh charm]

Protocore?

[silent relic]

ah i see

[keen sable]

But generally just moar ships

[harsh charm]

oh got it

I do not have Prototype Core

[undone plover]

This shop

[harsh charm]

No prototype core at all...

[undone plover]

See if u can analyze any cdc packs in your depot

[harsh charm]

cdc?

[undone plover]

These things

[harsh charm]

I got 600 protocore now.

[undone plover]

Then get the series 3 prints

And convert them to champy prints

[hollow gust]

Should be using triple 406 mk6 still for majority of stuff

[harsh charm]

Ok, got the gun.

[undone plover]

U can make 1 gun now
More next month
U want 3 total

[hollow gust]

Dependent on what ships he has

[opaque gate]

is prince of wales a good off flag?

[hollow gust]

Meh

[opaque gate]

cuz i read howe, prince of wales, duke of york are good off flags

[hollow gust]

Howe is good yes

[soft raft]

PoW is a faction buffer and DoY is basically a poor man's Vanguard

[undone plover]

@harsh charm read this when u have time
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
read the last part on how to get more protocore from catchup
It also explains research focus for u

[opaque gate]

cus, im planning to make an efficient boss fleet for farming, i think 3BBs are good

[harsh charm]

Thanks. Where do I get the CD packs for protocre?

[glass basin]

she's decent support for HMS/USS when you're just starting off
her unique augment is decent

[soft raft]

that doesnt really sound like that good of a idea, esp W12+
at most 2 BB imo

[undone plover]

@harsh charm U get some every 2 months from free cruise pass
Others are from rookie missions
We should get more rookie missions in january

Lastly u can get protocore from ship BP (the things u use to enhance shipyard ships)
U can get those from research and catchup
Read the link I sent it explains it

[soft raft]

(Her unique augment is needed to have her buff work on British ships btw)
(Also Insert obligatory faction fleet bad statement here)

[harsh charm]

Understood. I appreciate it

[undone plover]

Dont spend protocore willy nilly
When u have more come back to ask what to get

Generally we recommend 3 champy then tenrai but u might want 2 champy + flandre gun instead
Anyway getting 1 more champy is fine for now which u can do in 2 days when month resets

[sweet delta]

Because the starter fleet is basically full HMS/USS and Enty exists too

[subtle cloud]

How does sovetsky soyuz measure up to bismarck zwei? Is one better than the other?

[sweet delta]

Bism is usually better but you don't get to choose if you lack rainbow BBs just use both

[subtle cloud]

my current fleet is using bismarck and nj

worth replacing nj perhaps?

[soft raft]

Easily

[sweet delta]

NJ is like one or half a tier below soyuz

[subtle cloud]

crazy

[glass basin]

I mean
black hole is too good

[subtle cloud]

alright then I’ll swap her out when mlb, thanks

[harsh charm]

Since I have Ägir then either Roon or Ägir's gun.

[keen sable]

Currently it is pretty abnormal to have a usable agir and no agir gun. Even if so, you wouldn't want roon gun though

[stuck sand]

Is taihou worth lvling and mlbing for any reason other than being extremely hot?

[stark quiver]

Tech points

And +1 avi

[stuck sand]

That’s the only reason I need

[soft raft]

CBs that are not named Kala do not want to use CA guns since they have caliber requirements on some of their skills that CA guns cannot meet

[silent relic]

how can i make use of Fancy so my 140 cube spent wouldnt be uselses

[hollow gust]

Get her skin

[silent relic]

broke but i wanna use her

[hollow gust]

Cause she sucks , idk what you want to do with her

[stark quiver]

She’s bad

She’s just collection %

[silent relic]

sucks

Should i just retire them for medals

[hollow gust]

No?

[silent relic]

why not

have nun to enhance, have nun to make use of them

i mostly use common ships to enhance my ships but none from epic tiers

[fickle void]

hey guys i might sound hella stupid but is there anyway to learn about the various gears of the game and what it does, so I can know how to apply it

[storm heron]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

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🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
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use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
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[storm heron]

[eternal moth]

Rum keg seems pretty good. I assume it's better than a second toolbox on most ships?

[tame jungle]

IX only gear so 🚮

[storm heron]

oh lol it is not even equipable

[narrow ibex]

can you still get kawakaze from the war archive

[eternal moth]

Oh, then it's useless. oh well

[autumn sand]

Might I ask why the Tenrai recommendation?
I'm a new player (started during EN anni) and I was thinking about getting the Georgia gun for my FdG and a Wyvern from the gear lab.

Should I get the Georgia gun from gear labs instead?

[urban grail]

is it recommended to farm the T5-T6 gun parts from event

[hollow gust]

Cause every fleet can benefit from a tenrai no matter the content

[storm heron]

georgia gun is good but the use case is limited, mostly only for mobs but the mk6 does no problem

[forest palm]

457 is basically a mob gun

[storm heron]

while a tenrai is a significant upgrade over helldiver and can be used anywhere

[eternal moth]

I have an issue where every time I go to the Private Quarters the first time, my game resets. I can then go in no issue. Anyone know why this might be?

[tame jungle]

pretty much everyone has that

[keen mural]

sirius not ready, you gotta knock

[whole crypt]

you will need to farm T5 for demi cannon if you intend to use the main fleet frigates, unless you already have one from last year
T6 is the usual farm spot for event points anyway though OHC is better as a main fleet secondary gun
vanguard and sub frigates are better off using 12pounder from core shop

[opaque gate]

is graf stronger than ssratoga?

[atomic abyss]

lmao no
weaker if anything

[opaque gate]

should i hood for mobfleet or izumo? 40% reload from hood seems good

[atomic abyss]

is izumo fs5 with aug?

[opaque gate]

yes

[atomic abyss]

izumo is outright better than hood then

[opaque gate]

thanks

[silent relic]

prinz heinrich better replacement for portland?

[hollow gust]

Well she is better

[warm flax]

I'm at lvl 12 Nagato Meta currently, can I get to 25k?

[silent relic]

alr then switching to heinrich ig

[whole crypt]

25k just takes like around 28 to 30 days from scratch

[half plover]

how good is amity in comparison to LDV?

because I only have 2 SR IB subs I would have to raise u37, u96 together with ldv but I am just curious if I could also raise amity instead

and I heard amity is not that useless in comparison to other tempesta

[hollow gust]

One is one of the best subs in the game , the other is amity

[half plover]

oh

[warm flax]

USS pack dead?

[half plover]

it requires flasher and I dont have her

[warm flax]

Rip

[half plover]

no idea if it really "requires" her but I think without her it is different at least

[silent relic]

feeling bad about my Amagi CV but is it safe to replace Enty with her?

[hollow gust]

Why would you replace her with enty

[eternal moth]

It doesn't require Flasher, you can use Archer/Alba/Cavalla instead. Flasher replaces Cavalla and is much better, but even without her it's around the same power as the wolfpack

[soft raft]

If she's MLB yes

[sweet delta]

I'd guess Alba archer cavalla is worse than the best wolfpack

Also at least amity is useful against temperance and all light armor CMs

[whole crypt]

pretty sure it only flipped to fishpack after flasher

[half plover]

hm I dont have cavalla yet so if I want to prepare for USS pack I would have to farm her one day

[eternal moth]

You can get her from Ashen Simulacrum, or merit.

[whole crypt]

you can just skip cavalla since she's not part of top fishpack

[silent relic]

soon

just need one more UR bulin, can get her MLB

[half plover]

yeah but it will take over a year for flasher rerun and just raising 2 USS subs doesnt get me anywhere

so raising her with knowledge I will replace her is still better imo

[silent relic]

alright to be paired with shinano?

[eternal moth]

If you have LdV she MIGHT be better than Cavalla, not sure

[half plover]

I really have to start raising subs so I'll have to decide if I want to run u96 u37 together with someone else or 2 USS ships etc 😭

[whole crypt]

81

[half plover]

I neither have u81

[whole crypt]

why do you really have to start raising subs anyway

[half plover]

ch15

[sweet delta]

Well any 3 high oxygen subs works

[storm heron]

how much damage do subs deal in w15? my subs only deal like 25k damage each

[sweet delta]

Packs don't mean much in campaign

[turbid dawn]

Was trying the Harbiter, How hard is it to 1 shot? This is kinda my 'anti-light' fleet in OpSi. Also I swear I can never get full use out of my Kear, I feel like as a UR she's deffo on the low end of how good she is

[half plover]

so ldv is the best third pick? or is like ldv u96 alba combo better or anything else

[whole crypt]

nothing in ch15 specifically needs subs, just make better surface fleets
otherwise any subs for additional damage is pretty much going to cover you for 0 ammo fight

[half plover]

yeah my problem is I want to kinda rush ch15 so waiting for better fleets isnt an option

[whole crypt]

I was lazy to swap anything and oneshotted this month's Temperance with anti-heavy + subs, your mileage may vary

[half plover]

[storm heron]

not so hard, I only need alsace soyuz vanguard agir helena ply, no subs

[sweet delta]

I oneshotted some old hard temperance with triple confetti gun

[weary gust]

Your Kear has no synergy whatsoever with that fleet, also gear is a big question here.

[sweet delta]

Kear is fine in the fleet. A kear who does less damage than mog is not fine.

[weary gust]

Kear is fine by herself but none of the other ships are working with her in any way, she's just kinda there doing her own thing.

[whole crypt]

Kearsarge can be used a sheller + HVAR carrier in anti-light BB, if you don't have all the UR BBs she's pretty fine

[storm heron]

instead of subs, I found little thing like manualing or resetting when I see too many initial bb nodes is better

[whole crypt]

keep in mind Kearsarge also has a shelling damage buff

[turbid dawn]

This is what my Kear was running, they all basically had the exact same gear but UVH only had +10 instead of +13

[half plover]

I feel like even with manualing I will hit a limit

[turbid dawn]

Gun that is

[glass basin]

is DR purple cognition or PR blue cognition better

[half plover]

so I bet I really need subs

[weary gust]

Yeah she's buffing the BBs, but none of the vanguard buffs or other BBs are helping her out. That's what I am trying to say.

[whole crypt]

where/how are you losing anyway

[storm heron]

Depends on how good your manual, but I use airstrike to erase shell and I move vanguard under the planes

[half plover]

I didn't attempt ch15 yet but 14-4 was a pain

[whole crypt]

what do you mean none of the vangaurds are helping her, Agir AB works for her, Plymouth buff works on both her guns and planes if flag

15 is a different playground, try it out first

[storm heron]

to be fair I cleared w15 easy because I have like one of the most cracked team, just -musashi

[whole crypt]

15's significantly less painful surface damage wise

[storm heron]

but give it a try for a good measure

[whole crypt]

and rammers

[half plover]

yeah I will have to raise 2 more ships before I will attempt ch15

[storm heron]

the concealment is less janky too

[glass basin]

is this thing decent to make
how many do I need

[weary gust]

Hmm, didn't know Plymouth's skill also worked for BBV.

[whole crypt]

is that the USS 137

[storm heron]

not a priority, iirc BiS for ch15 and pvp

[whole crypt]

you only need like 1-2 for secondary gun on NJ and anything else that can't use CL guns

[glass basin]

I see
prolly gonna make before I get the quad rainbow one

[whole crypt]

it's not really much priority because it only fits as BB/BC secondary

[storm heron]

you will find better use of the quad rainbow on one of your vanguard

[whole crypt]

depening on the vanguard an UR BB may get more mileage out of the FP

[odd cedar]

whats the typical drop rate for sr like amity in the event drops

[whole crypt]

no known drop rate besides it's shit

[odd cedar]

im just farming t6 so bound to get one soon

[storm heron]

not bound

[whole crypt]

there's no guarantee for drops but if you farm enough you can just buy her with points anyway

[odd cedar]

yeah ik she's not my priority anyways

[whole crypt]

she has 0 priority for me I just buy her because I know I have enough points and I'm not farming T6

[unique lantern]

is there a priority list for resupply in opsi? im grabbing the t3 ordnance and then ur gear things first and then have some tokens left

[whole crypt]

gold plates? can't remember if they cost coins or tokens

and of course lab materials besides ordrep/UR design unless you're already overflowing

[storm heron]

gold plates tokens

[storm heron]

#gameplay-help message

[sweet delta]

One percent per sortie

[odd cedar]

oh that's not that bad, thought it would be much worse

[whole crypt]

did we finally keep enough data to give it that estimate?

[storm heron]

how much n is enough

[whole crypt]

how long is 2.4k AP on C5 roughly

[glass basin]

on a side note, demicannon blueprints are drop only from t5

[unique lantern]

abyssal loggers are these, right?

[glass basin]

so you may also want to farm that for "collection" purposes if you don't have it

[unique lantern]

me forgetting images 😔

[storm heron]

the left one is abyssal and the right one is hidden

[whole crypt]

siren coord is abyssal, just coord is hidden

you really should just be clearing all of them

[unique lantern]

ill see if i have the coins, ill have to spam all my ap stuff today, in 2 days is reset, ye?

[whole crypt]

more like 1.5 days

I have 20 hours to clear 2.4k AP surely that's not a problem

[unique lantern]

😓 i gotta rush these then, rip time

[glass basin]

just pop everything and hit auto

[unique lantern]

shouldnt take too long

[unique lantern]

oh right, i can go over the 200 limit, i forgot

[whole crypt]

well I don't usually end up needing to clear more than 200 AP on the last day but I was busy this month, I also don't usually skip any merchant or siren device

[unique lantern]

what do siren devices even give, i dont recall ever getting anything from them

the puzzles, ye?

[whole crypt]

data logging towers can be smashed for loot, occasionally AP boxes drop from them

scanning devices is up to you, but I've started to use them again to scan for enemies to cope for commander XP

[storm heron]

is nagami moe broken or is it just my skill issue

[rapid nexus]

are any of the new tempesta ship worth pulling for? or should i just save?

[keen mural]

R4 abyssal can drop Ur stuff?

[dusky stream]

When's the next archive UR due? I know we just got UvH, next one isn't for a while, right?

[dusky stream]

lol it's really bad so far, been farming it.

[dusky stream]

waifu only

[eternal moth]

Anyone have a META fleet using Amagi CV?

[dusky stream]

beyond sakura carriers and torp vanguard?

[soft osprey]

is using kaga and akagi with amagi cv a good idea?

[stark quiver]

No

[eternal moth]

Not particularly

[soft osprey]

already oathed and mlb the 3 of them

[stark quiver]

Akagi and kaga are omega mid, and amagis buff won’t save them

[dusky stream]

amagi + haku + shinano

[eternal moth]

What about vanguard?

[undone plover]

CV fleet with no stop will not be ideal

[eternal moth]

I was already planning to use the IJN CV fleet.

[undone plover]

u should still run implacable

[soft osprey]

she's on another fleet

[sweet delta]

I thought META fleet meant amagiCV + 5 META ships

[soft osprey]

better to use magato then if you really wanna use amagi cv with ashens

even if hr non sakura barrage is fucking op

[undone plover]

I still dont know what is the ideal third vanguard in a CV opsi fleet
would unzen be the clear choice now cuz amagi?

[eternal moth]

I've been using Mog for the stop

[storm heron]

mog stop niche

[soft osprey]

shimakaze is a good choice too

[haughty dust]

Have they not updated the tier list yet for Amagi (CV)? I cannot find her on there.

[sweet delta]

For opsi I use some mix of Sirius Kazagumo Helena kirovmeta aurora noshimuse sendai

[undone plover]

not yet
she was prelim at T0 iirc

[sweet delta]

But I'm not most people

[undone plover]

I was thinking more in terms if u wanted an omni CV fleet

[haughty dust]

I see, because I was trying to level her up for fleet tech since I need to focus on Vanguard ship girl first. Which if I complete the current pass I should be able to mlb Vanguard.

[undone plover]

but i suppose swapping around each month is still most ideal

[sweet delta]

For an Omni IJN CV fleet then I would pick amagi Shinano Implac Sirius Kazagumo Helena/Unzen/tank

[soft dagger]

omni and ideal seems contradict to each other tho

[haughty dust]

I just need to get to level 100 on it and then I will have enough UR bulin to mlb Vanguard and then not sure which UR to go for after her. If it should be Amagi CV or Ulrich from permanent

[eternal moth]

Amagi

[haughty dust]

ok

[undone plover]

i would never use bulins for perma URs outside of shinano

[haughty dust]

gotcha well she is already done

[undone plover]

I mean sure but I could see sth like amagi, nyakhimov, shinano, tank, gumo, NP slower flex working vs every armor type

[sweet delta]

The ectl gear method

[soft dagger]

to my understanding omni in this convo is the higher average to tackle all armor type right? cmiiw. but ideal means best average against certain armor type. so from my perspective no omni will be ideal

[eternal moth]

There's no way I'd wait for that long to MLB a UR

That's over 2 years assuming light-build only

[undone plover]

yeah bit paradoxical term i agree
I meant ideal as in not conditional on enemy type

[eternal moth]

800 cubes, used at once a day for light build, is over 2 years for enough copies of a ship to MLB it, disregarding the initial

[undone plover]

But u do pulls on events as well

[eternal moth]

Most people here are telling people not to do that either and ONLY pull on UR events, which don't increment the perma-UR counter

[undone plover]

I think I hit perma pity 6 times since january

Fwiw

[eternal moth]

That's great, I'm assuming you also have over 1k cubes stored

[cobalt rapids]

do rerun tickets not increase the UR counter

[undone plover]

Tbh I dont mean dont use bulins on uvh and nj if u have spare
But better use them on the newer URs

[eternal moth]

I'd still rather have an MLB NJ over any SSR

[cobalt rapids]

ive yet to see a dock where mlbing NJ is a prio

[undone plover]

Me too. That is not what I am saying
Sry if I am not clear

[boreal wagon]

im p sure they do (assuming no UR in rerun)

[undone plover]

Between MLB perma UR and new UR I would save for new UR is my point

[storm heron]

What about LBing UR is case by case basis?

[eternal moth]

We get what, 28 bulins a year?

[storm heron]

• UR reruns yes

[eternal moth]

15 from cores, 6 from cruise pass, 4 from new UR events, and whatever UR reruns we get, so 25+, that's enough for 6 URs a year

[unique lantern]

what does "improved all out assault" usually mean, i see a lot, if not all, of the upgrades reduce required shots, does it also alter or power up the barrage?

[eternal moth]

Usually it's a better barrage, adding bullets or improving the mods

[unique lantern]

in my case im specifically wondering about plymouth right now, 16 bps until dev30 and i cant find specific info anywhere except that it takes 24 -> 18 shots

[chrome fiber]

Guys just a quick question. Does the new skin in the shop disappear. Or are they limited?and after the 7 day's it will stay there?

[eternal moth]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Barrage

[storm heron]

don't forget the 1000 from medal

[sweet delta]

/cnwiki pulimaosi

[eternal moth]

Isn't that included in the 5k/month?

[stark quiver]

Thankfully not

[storm heron]

Nope, pretty sure I'm the few ones who remember the addition

[eternal moth]

Oh, then yeah, it's 28 a year then

[sweet delta]

Oh that doesn't say the unimproved barrage

[storm heron]

7 UR MLB vs 4 new UR

[chrome fiber]

?

[unique lantern]

[storm heron]

they said something about the time limit there

[eternal moth]

You can look at the numbers, but for some reason it doesn't have AoA 1 either

[chrome fiber]

So its 7 day's then. i see thanks.

[eternal moth]

Any skins tied to events go away when the event does

[cobalt rapids]

ppl who miss nj usually have other URs they are missing and other non mlb URs waiting in queue
NJ herself isnt a high prio because theres always better UR bbs lurking on the horizon who use the UR bulins better rather than her

[chrome fiber]

[eternal moth]

You can MLB 7+ URs a year, they've only been releasing 5 new ones

[cobalt rapids]

if there is a person who is only missing NJ mlb and has enough stockpile to pile 3 new bulins till next UR event ill recommend em to mlb nj

[eternal moth]

And I still think I'd take NJ over UvH

[cobalt rapids]

this yearly income doesnt mean much when ur behind 2 years of UR queue

ill take NJ over kron and shima and thats about it
ulrich could situationally provide something that nj doesnt have a direct upgrade to

[storm heron]

there are always 4 new UR per year right?

[eternal moth]

Last 2 years there have been 5 in 4 events

[storm heron]

Ohh I forgot about that

[sweet delta]

For new players there are like 8 to 10 "new" URs

Even rerun URs are usually higher prio than perma URs

[undone plover]

Also some casuals dont cap spec core and have less “income”

[storm heron]

Why do we need to establish a rule again? Isn't it better to decide on case per case basis?

[undone plover]

Fair enough

[half plover]

it will be case by case anyway since newer URs will change meta anyway

[eternal moth]

Sorry, I guess Laffey was the only bonus UR we've had.

[storm heron]

Let unzen rerun tomorrow, what will a new player decide, MLB Shinano or unzen?

[half plover]

Kronk

[eternal moth]

Oh, it WAS Mogador. Right. Ok, I have no idea how many URs are going to come out this year

[half plover]

I'd do shinano bc of current ijn syn meta but I am noob

[sweet delta]

I'd take a Shinano pity and possibly dump bulins depending on dock and upcoming URs

[left cedar]

Shin, cuz she can be used in alot more places than Unzen and its more flexible in possibilities, also is more usefull in pushing campaign

[lone knoll]

idk how any of you keep loads of gold im always bellow 10k... do you not do events? they give so little gold, maybe im doing something wrong idk I think im not supposed to always not have gold

[keen sable]

Less T5...

[lone knoll]

I only did it once...

[storm heron]

Dw I'm the same

[lone knoll]

will this stop once i have lots of ships built?

[storm heron]

I only coin 7 pr and 2 dr because of that

General rule is to cut your coin spendings as much as you can during events

[lone knoll]

I only have 1 pr and not a single dr to fs5

[stark quiver]

It’ll stop when coin demand isn’t as high

[lone knoll]

to save for pulling?

[storm heron]

Do not awaken ships, avoid limit breaking if you don't need it, avoid gear crafting, avoid gear upgrading, avoid face research even

[lone knoll]

damn, literally what I do every day, just today i used up likle 40k gold sandy alone

[storm heron]

by avoiding face research means take more rigging analysis

avoid retrofitting too

[lone knoll]

I only retrofit 3 ships in the past month and im still sinking tons of gold

sandy eldridge cost a lot tho

Im scared that I wont be able to pull an ur due to coins

[keen sable]

Then you should be banking 30k a day at least including 16k from T6. Not infinite but not small

[lone knoll]

idk where it even goes, i dont randomly spend gold on random ships too, I always go all out per ship

[storm heron]

That's why you don't retrofit ships when event is on

[lone knoll]

ok now I know

[undone plover]

U can stockpile gold for events
Like doggo suggested
Cut your spendings a little

I dont think u should worry about missing a UR due to not having gold
U need max 300,000 for pity which is like 20k gold per day in 2 weeks

As long as u dont spend it all u will have enough spare for pulls

[lone knoll]

ok thats good to know, at least i wont be afraid of missing ur's

[storm heron]

And save some oil or coins in the bank just in case you cannot get 300k gold in 2 weeks

[sweet delta]

Worst case you can just stop paying coins for research, and you can pity UR with the 1200 oil commission

[lone knoll]

so general rule is dont upgrade stuff that uses too much gold during events

[stark quiver]

Or just farm 12-4

[undone plover]

More or less yeah
U can still spend just need to balance it
And 300,000 is a worst case scenario where u have to hit pity

[lone knoll]

thats my home when events are not on

[storm heron]

10% chance you hit pity

[keen sable]

Did you buy the 5k oil logger for ops?

[lone knoll]

nops, should I?

[undone plover]

UR reruns might be tighter cuz it only lasts 1 week but also u get 40+ free tickets

[lone knoll]

oh really??? 40 free summons? thats new to me

[storm heron]

and in one case you can't farm 12-4 because HVARs

[lone knoll]

wait 40 tickets 2= 1 summon

[storm heron]

1 ticket = 1 pull

[lone knoll]

this game is amazing

[stark quiver]

surely around 50k oil wil be enough for 5 hvars

[storm heron]

I prepared 300k oil

also does HVAR come with SKY?

[stark quiver]

Same event as sky raider

Anyways I’m putting my academic career on the line for hvars

[storm heron]

Sleep is temporary, HVAR is eternal

[left cedar]

this game is more about resources management than play it ...

[tame jungle]

Does sleep have great damage output against light armor enemies? Don’t think so huh

[glass basin]

once you get your research done and ships raised you'll be saving up gold

[lone knoll]

I have 1 finished pr ship lmao im still far from that day

[left cedar]

its more about define prioritys, like Researchs, ships MLB and awekenings(if u are a begginer lacking 2 full fleets) and FS5 FdG
them rest is less in list of prioritys ... and keep going down.
once u hit the dailly basics them everything above the cap(yeah i like to keep myself in cap cuz events builds and maybe some surprises like new gears/augments) is wut u have to spend in everything else

[lone knoll]

yeah fdg is at the very top of priorities

and im still ironing out both the fleets, i have 12+ ships at 120 but some are bad

want to have 2 solid fleets asap and after that chill a bit

[left cedar]

Keep researchs running is the top priority... dont matter if u are a begginer, mid, late or end game

[lone knoll]

yeah first thing i do daily is the 7k for fdg and another random pr1 ship

it will take years to have them all anyway

i should start coining AvP

[barren tapir]

resource managing is definitely a big thing in AL especially early on...gotta prioritize what to do when

[left cedar]

i'm refering to Researchs, not to PR Devs, that researchs u pay golds, plates etc...

[lone knoll]

oh that research

yeah sometimes I dont even have gold for that and have to wait to fill the queue

I'll chill for a bit on raisning ships now and just hoard

imagine if we get 2 urs back to back i need gold

[left cedar]

isnt impossible get 2 in same event, but isnt gona happen, not until mid/late december ...

[storm heron]

imo 2 years is when people reach financial stability where oil/coins income covered all the things

[left cedar]

depends alot on who are playing, and how much they know about game and managing resourcers

[storm heron]

that point onwards people can start ignoring merchant

[sweet delta]

I still don't ignore the merchant after 4+ years of gaming

[left cedar]

i only buy gray plates, Aux, Avi, AA, Books, cubes and gem foods

[eternal basalt]

"only"

[coarse heron]

only

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

really, I thought veterans are going beyond softcap. Maybe it's just for this event since the gold rates are so bad?

[cobalt rapids]

if ure going above soft cap it means u gave up on cats

[spring bolt]

600k coins tossed into the sea a few days after i got some cats with good initials, and it never goes back above 100k

[glass basin]

imagine buying cat boxes for xp

[spring bolt]

seriously drake and every are like 1m coins each for average players... next we need a cv one, or two

[half plover]

are these cats good to level up?

[cobalt rapids]

every and drake ? yes

[half plover]

what about that other SR cat

there were 3 iirc

[cobalt rapids]

Kid ? worse but could still be better than what u have in cattery

[half plover]

tyy

[queen jackal]

do higher rarity research give more blueprints

[cobalt rapids]

yes but same type project have kinda ~ similar hourly rates unless they are UL which are much better

https://azur-stats.lyoko.io/research5-blueprints this site works for now so u can check the rates urself

[queen jackal]

i see ty

[bold salmon]

Is worth making more than 1 float plane?

[atomic abyss]

no

[trim sparrow]

Harbin ok at the end or does she want middle position?

[sweet delta]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/edit?gid=1231361331#gid=1231361331

86% is fine, depends on the enemy

And depends how important harbin vs the other ships are to keep alive

[kind slate]

How to get locked talents?

[storm heron]

Upgrade the mf

[hollow gust]

Level the cats up

[kind slate]

Oh so I feed cats enhance and I’ll auto get it?

[hollow gust]

Well you reach level thresholds , it's every 5 levels for cats

[storm heron]

every 5 levels mf will give you talent point to upgrade mf talent. Talent is fixed for some like Drake, or random for others

[unreal notch]

Trying to 100% the T4 of the current event map, but I can't get the clear all mobs star. Am I missing something? I use up all my 2x5 combat points, also newbie here

[atomic abyss]

you have to do battles on 0 ammo

[unreal notch]

I thought I can't fight if on 0 ammo? I'll try thanks

[atomic abyss]

you get a 50% dmg penalty

[soft raft]

You can still fight on zero ammo
There's just a damage penalty but that means Jack shit outside of W14/15 If you have properly built fleets

[unreal notch]

ahhhhh

[hollow gust]

Then your fleets get fucked

[trim sparrow]

I forget does opsi give affinity?

[storm heron]

haha bet you didn't try to fight in 0 ammo and assume you can't

[storm heron]

no

[trim sparrow]

Right on

[storm heron]

The first time I had a 0 ammo fight, I searched to ask what's the difference

[ornate narwhal]

How long does it take to get all the retrofit mats for a PR or DR?

[undone plover]

depends... it is rng
u could get very lucky with the guild shops and dailies
I would say maybe a couple of days to a week for a PR and double that for DR

[ornate narwhal]

Ok do u get better drops the farther in hard mode you go?

[undone plover]

supposedly yeah
not sure how much better tho
u want at least ch4 tho from what I remember for gold BPs

[atomic abyss]

very slightly better, according to community gathered data

ch3

you still want to push higher because of core data

[undone plover]

oh it is ch3 I see

[ornate narwhal]

I’m farming chapter 4 is that ok?

[undone plover]

well if u can do higher it would be better

cuz they also give more core data which u also need

[ornate narwhal]

I would need to do more story and I’m not done grinding the event

[undone plover]

then it is fine for now

[spice phoenix]

what exactly do these do?

[hollow gust]

honestly i gnore it

[trim sparrow]

Any guides i can read for w14? Havent ever attempted yet

[plain saffron]

Recon the entire zone

[spice phoenix]

so it does the exact same thing as request recon command?

[plain saffron]

Yes but consumes the ESD instead

[undone plover]

afaik we dont have a ch14 guide
u can open a thread and ask for specific advice
if u want general advice u can read the ch14 wiki notes at the bottom https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_14

u want good asw on your mob frontline (the hedgehog) so use a good DD -/+ sandy (and maybe an asw plane on unicorn as well)
the 155kai CL gun for your BBs to intercept
desync your backliners so they dont all shoot at the same time even in boss fleet
the boss fights are also longer so ditch helena if u have been using her so far and use a tanky frontline

[trim sparrow]

Alrite right on, ill start a thread with my dock when i decide to actually hit w14

[storm heron]

[forest palm]

does the elimination system function post dev 30 when the ships do not have Fate Sim?

[tame jungle]

pretty sure a ship is marked as complete when you can't pump blueprints anymore yeah, once i had agir dev30 i didn't get any more agir faces while finishing up haku fs5

[forest palm]

that's well within parameters simply because your PR4 isn't complete, I just can't remember if since I have PR7 complete the elimination system will kick in as I get the required prints for Fate Sim

[tame jungle]

I’m not following here, you mean an entire season getting taken out of the pool?

[forest palm]

that's the elimination system, yes

[storm heron]

yes, I finished all prio 7 d30 and all faces are nakh and nap

[forest palm]

post

I'm grinding for Fate Sim prints now, I just can't remember if the elimination system works post

[eternal moth]

Once you have all ships at dev30 faces start showing up again

[tame jungle]

Is that not only when you got that season focused?

[storm heron]

If you have all the ships d30, a ship full fatesim will be eliminated from the pool no?

[forest palm]

that's what I can't remember if since I have PR7 Dev 30 as a whole, getting the required prints for Fate Sim will eliminate a PR7 ship once again

[eternal moth]

I don't think it will

[viscid swift]

It will not sadly

[stone sluice]

So if I have 4 PR4 ships dev30 and the other one at dev29 but enough blueprints to complete it, I won’t receive any faces?

[storm heron]

so until the fsV exist, a ship will not be eliminated from the pool even though the bps are enough

[eternal moth]

Assuming 5 ships in a PR season, you'll start seeing all faces again

[viscid swift]

Yes

[stone sluice]

[storm heron]

pretty sure the face pool will be everything but agir

it isn't?

[sweet delta]

Read the question carefully

[forest palm]

correct it yourself

[sweet delta]

You get all faces except aegirs

[fallow sedge]

Is new jr good for campaign chap 9+?

[forest palm]

provided she's MLB she can do well, yes

[sweet delta]

While she is good, you should not use UR bulins on her, and URs who aren't max limit broken suck

[fallow sedge]

Im considering paring her with musashi because I've been getting jersey on gacha for a while.

[tame jungle]

Uhhh are you pulling perma banner

[fallow sedge]

No. Only that one time.

[sweet delta]

You usually want 2 good carriers instead of 2 BBs in a campaign fleet

[candid meteor]

what ur gear should i craft after getting 2 wyverns and the ones from shop

[sweet delta]

Depends on what you have and what content you need help clearing

[fallow sedge]

Is it okay to not use healing auxiliary when I use healer carriers like uni retro

[tame jungle]

if your ships survive easily both with and without that, sure

when pushing campaign etc i'd honestly just play it safe though

[fresh briar]

Which is worth and Good for late game to level up

[sweet delta]

Aurora Sandy unicorn enterprise potter Pittsburg duke chapayev

[ornate narwhal]

How can I get oil?

[tame jungle]

canteen, commissions, daily and weekly missions, the weekly free pack

[forest palm]

money

[ornate narwhal]

Which blue stuff should I keep? Since Ik I need some for gear lab but idk which to keep

[forest palm]

there's very few pieces of gear you'd keep as a component for Gear Lab crafting as most blue gear itself is rather cheap to craft within Gear Lab itself

the ones I can think of would be the plane that makes the D-4, and the AA Gun Twin 57

Heinkel He 50b, and Single 37mm AA

[versed forum]

Is Bishamaru good CV cats?

[fallow sedge]

Best bb gun that isn't too hard or grindy to get like from chest or exchange

[opaque gate]

can i use an MLB shinano even if she is lvl 90?

[forest palm]

the purple MK6 is the most readily available BB gun you can get, but at a certain point the type of gun you use depends on Armor type

[forest palm]

if she's MLB she'll do fine

[rapid grail]

406mm mk6 against Light armor

[late flame]

lv90 shinano in w14

[rapid grail]

doable in w12 farm

[ornate narwhal]

How much oil would it take me to clear chapter 5-7 with 3*?

[storm heron]

literally depends on the ship you use

[ornate narwhal]

The fleet costs 56 oil

[rapid grail]

just one fleet it until w9, doesn't really matter since you get a surplus of oil

[ornate narwhal]

I’ve run outta oil…

[rapid grail]

1 ship = 1 oil per fight
so 6 oil everytime you start fight stage

[storm heron]

damn anyways it takes around 1k oil per subchapter

[ornate narwhal]

Including 3*?

[storm heron]

yes since 3* means you fight a lot of mob fleets

[ornate narwhal]

Wait subchapter? So in total it’s like 12k???

[rapid grail]

lets say you have to do 6 fights on a non oilcap campaign stage.

6(56+6) = 372 oil

per clear

[ornate narwhal]

Oh ok I can’t even get to oilcapped stages yet bc I haven’t cleared enough story

[storm heron]

sounds about right. If you want it to be more efficient, uni + auged laffey for mob and penn portland helena for boss cut down your cost more than half

[rapid grail]

dw, take your time

[ornate narwhal]

I haven’t fully retrofitted Laffey yet

[rapid grail]

efficiency on pre-oilcap stages for a NEW PLAYER...

the priority is a full fleet of lvl 120~ ships firdt and foremost

[ornate narwhal]

I already have that…

[storm heron]

btw all of their starters are level 120-125

[rapid grail]

where...

[storm heron]

I think you can definitely afford not using full fleet

[storm heron]

like yesterday we were helping them for like 40 minutes

[rapid grail]

if that is true thrn the priority is to speedrun to w9+ then

[ornate narwhal]

I still need 5 more gold retrofit mats for Laffey, and the easiest ways to get them is to clear the quests which give you 2…that’s why I want to clear chapter 5-7

[storm heron]

well event is running

[rapid grail]

get coins and oil for gear, ship improvements, more value for your oil

[ornate narwhal]

I still need 15k event currency for gold blueprints

[storm heron]

I don't remember what resources are gated behind laffey retrofit, but make sure to get all important things from the event shop

[ornate narwhal]

Yea all I got left is the old sr ship and gold blueprints

[ornate narwhal]

How much event currency can I get from dailies and farming the SP stage before the event ends?

[dense epoch]

is there a way to burn oil fast i reached my cap of 25k and i don't play the game that much anymore i just do dailies and weekly tasks fast

[eternal moth]

Buy curry in the dorm

[dense epoch]

that was quick thank you

[kind needle]

What armor type is the arbiter this month?

[stark quiver]

light

[kind needle]

Idk which should I get first.
First UR AA or 2nd Wyvern?

[stark quiver]

at least 3 wyverns first

[forest palm]

[atomic abyss]

UR AA is super low priority

[opaque gate]

is there an auto attack command where autofarm can get bullets?

[forest palm]

campaign auto AI is too dumb

[opaque gate]

ryuusei better than saiun?

[forest palm]

it depends

[opaque gate]

for boss fights?

[forest palm]

partially boss fights, and more so to do with your timing when it comes to your CVs

there's 4 converging TBs that are used to adjust the launch time of CVs this is done in an effort to sync them as closely together

the 4 TBs are Saiun Kai, Ju 87 D-4, Ryuusei, VIT-2 Mode Change, all these are relatively close to each other in damage, but where they differ is in the timing

[opaque gate]

okii thanks, is there a reason to limit break ships without the need to use them?

[muted ember]

how good is this

[muted ember]

getting tech points

[opaque gate]

other than getting tech points, are there more reasons? like fleet tech or smth except memento

[muted ember]

that's it ngl

there's also collecting where you want to see your whole dock with 5 stars

[opaque gate]

oh ok lol tyy

[vale spindle]

sidegrade / slight upgrade to blue evasion gear but worse than gold rudder

[vale spindle]

fleet tech kinda counts as tech points

[opaque gate]

i meant the stat thingies

[vale spindle]

yes but thats from lvl 120
you need max limit break to get to lvl 120 but not always (pr ships )

[muted ember]

does Sirius and Kazagumo CV buffs stack?

[dense swan]

How many sakura empire ships do yall amagi cv need in her team to be good enough

[dusk maple]

She just wants Shinano for peak performance

[wind hazel]

at least 3 for shinano

so 90% of the time, amagi+shinano+kazagumo

[dense swan]

Then the rest can be any ships?

[wind hazel]

yeah

[dense swan]

Thanks

[forest palm]

well, at least preferably Implacable or August, and Sirius

[hollow gust]

Or nahkimov

[forest palm]

isn't that only if you use another SN ship

[hollow gust]

That's fine , voroshilov or Tashkent are more then capable substitutes

[forest palm]

I don't think Voro, or Tash would be tanking able to tank...

[hollow gust]

Ditching Sirus is fine

[forest palm]

that's a loss in damage

[hollow gust]

Considering how busted nahkimov is

[forest palm]

you oversell Nahk

[hollow gust]

Just look at the current arbiter fight , she is far superior to implacable , even if it means ditching Sirus

When nahkimov is matching Yorktown 2 of all ships in light armor . She is more then worth replacing implacable

[forest palm]

can't say I'm impressed

using Arbiter as some sort of measure isn't the same as it used to be

[hollow gust]

[wind hazel]

at which sec did both battle ended?

[hollow gust]

One of them took three strike , the other was two

[wind hazel]

so cat took two?

[hollow gust]

Nahkimov and Yorktown was killing with an extra airstrike to spare , while using +10 planes

[forest palm]

again this testing isn't impressive

[hollow gust]

Just use the ship instead of making useless statements

[wind hazel]

well, i mean 2 strike vs 3 strike is impressive lol

that's a big difference in comparison

[forest palm]

also Voro is limited, so you'd be relying on Tash

[hollow gust]

Tash is literally better then Voro

I only use voro cause shes hotter and not a loli

[forest palm]

nonesensical reason...

[hollow gust]

Does it matter?

[forest palm]

well surely it must if she is better according to you

[hollow gust]

it's like taking to a brick wall , do what you please

[wind hazel]

i mean both voro and tashkent aren't easily obtainable, so there's still accessibility issue

and recommending nakh to random players isn't the smartest thing to do too

[hollow gust]

It was an offhand comment on how nahkimov is a viable 3rd slot . Taz was the one who questioned if she was good

[wind hazel]

fair point tru

[forest palm]

I didn't say that

[left cedar]

now i agree with u complety

[hollow gust]

Nahkimov and Voroshilov/Tashkent isn't a damage loss compared to Implacable and Sirus. That was the only point I was going to make . If you want to plant your head in the sand so be it

Arguing about semantics is

[worthy pulsar]

what version is azur lane on rn

[forest palm]

don't think AL even has versions, not even sure what you're asking

[worthy pulsar]

Im downloading decrypted version of AL to play on a macbook emu

[left cedar]

different from the beggining, different from next one

[worthy pulsar]

there should be a mention of it somewhere in the title screen or settings at least

[opal stirrup]

Guy how to unlock the next stage, all I fight is just B3 how to unlock D3?

[forest palm]

tap the hard button

also you don't have to clear A + B side, you can just do C + D side if you tap hard

[wind hazel]

8.2.1

[worthy pulsar]

what about this

[wind hazel]

idk 8.2.1 is android version, apple idk

[opal stirrup]

Thank you I should have know this sonner. My oil

[hollow gust]

Doesn't Apple have native support for iOS apps nowadays

[worthy pulsar]

wdym

[plain saffron]

iirc AL not in the app store for M cpu devices

[willow dock]

What's some good bl Americans for mobbing?

Aside from unicorn

[atomic abyss]

Independence retrofit, Saratoga retrofit

[hollow gust]

Shangrila , Yorktown 2 are good CVs too

[willow dock]

I guess it is about time I touched my Yorktown 2

[dense swan]

Should i pause my progress on bayard and do brest instead? I'm like 600k xp away from completing brest

[hollow gust]

Why would you not use her , literally one of the best CVs in the game

[hollow gust]

Should've finished Brest in the first place , don't forget finish season by season

[dense swan]

I don't think i was able to do brest when i started on bayard

[wind hazel]

do you have enough blueprints for either? if not, just complete whatever you're doing

switching mid development is always a bad choice

[dense swan]

Ok

[willow dock]

Same reason I haven't touched Helena

I'm lying. I just hate Helena. Not entirely sure where I'd put Yorktown 2

[vast sparrow]

Unicorn > Volga > Perseus? (For W14-5)

[hollow gust]

You can't compare main healers and sub healers

[lofty zodiac]

What you can heal submarin???

[cobalt rapids]

ryuuhou can

[sweet delta]

How much of Mogador damage is trp?

[rapid grail]

unikai/perseus + volga for w14
unikai/volga for w15
both for mob fleets
percy too squishy and doesn't provide enough value on w15

[cobalt rapids]

wizardry says less than 20%

[spring bolt]

about 17% if using double survival auxes, according to CN chart

[sweet delta]

so that's what torp DD means

[rapid grail]

where's this CN chart?

[spring bolt]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/舰船输出生存参考

[opaque gate]

where can i getbmore team catapult?

[cobalt rapids]

gold/rainbow techboxes

[sweet delta]

/wiki steam catapult

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Steam_Catapult

[sweet delta]

Research

[spring bolt]

who said mog is torp dd?

[forest palm]

sounds like a weird claim

[vast sparrow]

da fa

[hollow gust]

Yeah the nice spize guy is inaccurate at best

[left tiger]

Can ply main tank for opsi bb fleet?

[hollow gust]

Yes but I won't recommend it

[left tiger]

Aight thx

[frank pulsar]

how accurate is this chart

[plain saffron]

Hi

[rose cosmos]

Is amity good

[atomic abyss]

No

[crystal vortex]

@atomic abyss If Agir uses this prototype main gun, is it suitable?

[atomic abyss]

No

[tame jungle]

wrong gun, that's the 406 SAP gun

[atomic abyss]

Just use her own gun

[tame jungle]

you'll probably want this one

[tame jungle]

prototype triple 305mm sk c/39

[crystal vortex]

I'm not done with it yet, I'm only at 20 blueprints.

Need 5 blueprint

[tame jungle]

well then just wait

you'll get them quite easily

[crystal vortex]

[crystal vortex]

It seems like it will be like that and it just takes time.

[rose whale]

are the accessories in event shop worth buying?7

[crystal vortex]

Who knows

[tame jungle]

check the pins

must say that the event gear's value is a little diminished due to it only being equippable by tempesta ships

[sinful elk]

Chat does flagship position provide any kind of buff for the ship in that position

[atomic abyss]

some ships have specific skills that require them to be in the flag (or sometimes the opposite)

[tame jungle]

the position itself no (unless you count 1.5x xp as a buff?)

[sinful elk]

since if i place alsace in the flag then she will likely fire first, but if i replace with her with NJ, NJ will fire first

[tame jungle]

your battleships are highly unlikely to all reload at the exact same time

[atomic abyss]

if the BBs somehow reload at the same time
the BB in flag is prioritised to fire her gun first

which subsequently jams the gun of the other BB

forcing them to fire 1.5s later

it is not a buff

[unborn owl]

best current healer ship?

[atomic abyss]

unicorn retro

[tame jungle]

unicorn retro

[sinful elk]

dawg never knew that

So should I just put vanguard in the flag to sync them?

[atomic abyss]

[tame jungle]

why would putting vanguard on flag make them sync better

[atomic abyss]

vanguard naturally already fires faster than the other BBs on account of her blisteringly high reload

[sinful elk]

it messed up from the uhh

3rd salvos onward

[tame jungle]

because vanguard is fast as hell and alsace is slow as balls (at least for a UR BB) i presume

[atomic abyss]

something is very wrong with that vanny

[sinful elk]

nah nah not again

[wind hazel]

is it?

[tame jungle]

maybe vanguard not same level?

[atomic abyss]

see above

[tame jungle]

unless not max enhanced reload

[atomic abyss]

oathed is my guess

[unborn owl]

is just me or i saw vanguard use champy gun?

[atomic abyss]

what's wrong with that?

i mean i usually use soyuz gun but still

[sinful elk]

yeah 3 of them

[wind hazel]

are you doing challenge mode

[sinful elk]

no just

enforcers

[atomic abyss]

im guessing

not all of them are 200 affinity

so go check

[sinful elk]

isnt it maintance

[atomic abyss]

these are both unoathed, lv 125 with 0 rld tech

[late flame]

no maint now

[atomic abyss]

no, i just took those SS

[tame jungle]

wtf maintenance and i'm not affected :O

[atomic abyss]

vanny shd always be faster

[sinful elk]

wth........ i saw maintance noticification i thought

[tame jungle]

#game-news where

[versed elk]

is there a good way to fix the crashing issue on ios?

[atomic abyss]

do an asset repair

[late flame]

if there was maint there'd be in game freebie

[versed elk]

i just crashed 3 times while doing 2 arbiters

[unborn owl]

should i go abyss or stronghold first?

[atomic abyss]

strongholds are easier

cos you can leave to heal

[coarse heron]

imo if you can do a Stronghold you can do a C4 Abyssal

[sinful elk]

vg is 101

[atomic abyss]

and alsace is 200?

[sinful elk]

yes both alsace and nj

[atomic abyss]

yeah no shit
alsace has additional 3% stat bonus for 200 affinity

so her reload is higher than vanny now

[unborn owl]

is just me or she looks different?

[sinful elk]

damn wtf that 3% really mess everything up

[atomic abyss]

there are 3 different arbiters

[unborn owl]

last time, i beat the one looks like a shark, now it's a jellyfish?

[atomic abyss]

it's a different arbiter every month

[late flame]

the arbiters also rotate every month

[coarse heron]

3% for Vanguard at level 125 is ~5 reload, which is quite a bit

About the same for Alsace

[unborn owl]

i wonder who will be next

[tame jungle]

the third arbiter

[atomic abyss]

it's a fixed cycle

[coarse heron]

November is Strength VIII

Medium Armour CA

[unborn owl]

okay. i think strength VIII is the one i've beating twice with my 3CV

[unborn owl]

hermit looks harder cuz she screw up my main

[atomic abyss]

different months have different buffs

separate from the arbiters themselves

[late flame]

+gear issue

[coarse heron]

annoying part about November is the every 20s she gets a gigashield for 5s

[unborn owl]

the only buff that i don't like is when her hp reach 30%, she become immune

[unborn owl]

the one that i really hated. ngl

[coarse heron]

you pretty much have to manual to make sure autocombat doesn't air strike or shell during shield

or adjust your timing I guess

[late flame]

nah i just swap out my mob fleet and still win on auto

it does require a few gear tweaks though

[versed elk]

repairing assets didn't do anything

love crashing every meta fight

[late flame]

worst case scenario reinstall

[versed elk]

do other ios users not have this issue?

[atomic abyss]

you may want to reinstall the game

try restarting your device first tho

no other reports of ios devices having crashes lately

[coarse heron]

the first ever crash I've ever had on my iPhone was Akashi during this event's minigame

[atomic abyss]

ah yeah besides that

[coarse heron]

and that was only when I got the game to over 1000 seconds

[atomic abyss]

the akashi ads are known to cause crashes after a long time

[coarse heron]

so makes me think it was just an integar overflow

[late flame]

nowadays game does crash if i done many sorties then head into 3d* dorm

[coarse heron]

the 3D dorm has never caused a crash for me

[tame jungle]

3D dorm is a mess in general

[versed elk]

its been recurring issue for quite a while, especially in meta fights/arbiter, i dont crash will doing opsi or normal levels

[unborn owl]

i use manual on 1st and 2nd attempt. but when her hp alr reach 5-10%, i'll go afk

[tame jungle]

can we help you with something or are you just blogging?

[unborn owl]

here some help. do you have any suggest fleet for next arbiter?

[tame jungle]

so you're just blogging

[atomic abyss]

i mean

what we suggest always depends on what you have

carrier gear shd be similar

BB just change HE to AP

[inland juniper]

What cats would you want to use on a full tempesta sub fleet?

Also what order should Royal Fortune / Mary Celeste / Amity go?

[sinful elk]

sooo i just get vg aff up and everything will be fixed??

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[coarse heron]

quite likely

[sinful elk]

Why this issue just happened so randomly like I never had it before until yesterday

[atomic abyss]

Probably cos your alsace just hit 200 affinity

Or you just oathed vanny

[sinful elk]

aff increase really slowly right

[atomic abyss]

Really slowly yes

[sinful elk]

make senses i dont send vanny into normal exp farming

[kind slate]

could i realistically get 500 spec core today?

[wind hazel]

pure grinding? gonna take a lot

[atomic abyss]

Grinding no

[opal stirrup]

I feel like this was a scam, cuz it never drop 5 star gear blueprints

[wind hazel]

dont farm for gear blueprints

what are you trying to get? there are probably better source of it than farming from WA

[ornate narwhal]

What’s the chance to drop a gold retrofit mat?

[wind hazel]

nobody knows

closest answer is low chance

[opal stirrup]

I want to get this, knowing that I could save up core token, but could only purchased 1 per month sound kinda slow for me

[atomic abyss]

It's a shit gun tho

Why would you ever buy it

[tame jungle]

This gun is really bad

[opal stirrup]

Idk it look 5 star ,’D and I just been play this game for 3 month

[atomic abyss]

The tldr is

[tame jungle]

5* does not equal good automatically

[atomic abyss]

The only good gold BB guns are from research and gear lab

None of the farmable gold BB guns or the ones from tech boxes are good

Use the purple triple 406mm mk6

Lacking with the purple twin 410mm mounted gun

Until you are able to get research or gear lab improvements

[vast sparrow]

Is putting STAAG than Sextuple on vanguards make any difference on endgame worlds? (W14-5)

[upbeat wagon]

As a beginner, where should i be spending my pulls

[wind hazel]

usually that will be worse

often you put staag on vanguard for the hit in meta fights and whatnot

but 99% of the time in campaign you just use sextuple/ur AA/etc

[wind hazel]

1 Light daily until UR event/collab event

[upbeat wagon]

Just 1 every day? And what is an UR event

[wind hazel]

yes just 1 every day. UR event is when the banner is a UR ship

[novel solstice]

UR ships have a shiny rainbow background and are usually hugely overpowered compared to other ships. UR event = one where you can pull a new UR ship.

[upbeat wagon]

Alright thanks

[novel solstice]

(UR = Ultra Rare)

[wind hazel]

don't be scammed by the permanent UR

[upbeat wagon]

I think i have one lmao got lucky in my first 5 pulls

[wind hazel]

unlucky news: you won't be using them anytime soon

[upbeat wagon]

Damn

Why so? High oil cost?

[late flame]

yup unless you can draw 4 dupes in a row

[wind hazel]

you can't max limit break them

[novel solstice]

Warspite is the one lame UR, the other ones in the permanent pools are excellent but overshadowed by the newer ones.

You need to get some UR bulins (or extra copies, but really you want to use the bulins) to limit break them.
All ships, including URs, are weak until max limit break.

[wind hazel]

this very good.

this very bad

[upbeat wagon]

So i shouldnt level it up or anything right?

[wind hazel]

yeah it would be pointless at the moment

[upbeat wagon]

Im like really beginner right now my highest level ship is like level 30

[late flame]

nothing wrong for using non-mlb ship for levelling, just that they are kinda dead weight in your fleet

[upbeat wagon]

ic

[late flame]

check this out if you have not already
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[upbeat wagon]

Tysm

[viral flicker]

How to build them

[inland shoal]

Ignore them

[atomic abyss]

Ignore them yes

[inland shoal]

They're kinda bad, but they want Tempesta gear if you wanna build them for whatever reason

Ganj-i-Sawai's main gun can only be acquired from farming T5 of the current event btw

[viral flicker]

Omw to do event and finishing it

[opaque gate]

what setup should shinano have? like how many db tb or f

[tame jungle]

what are you facing