gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

I would wait for the Tenrai at least

[lone knoll]

any guaranteed way to get kazagumo?

[eternal moth]

Nope

[lone knoll]

rip

[wind hazel]

there was selector from the invitation, that was the only 100% way of getting her

but if you don't have it, you missed it

[lone knoll]

I dont have it my acc is 3 months old

[wind hazel]

ripbozo, wait for next invitation and pray she's there

[eternal moth]

Do your 1 build/day in the light pool, you'll get her eventually

[lone knoll]

I hope so she looks good with shinano amagi for the 3 sakura ships buff

[sweet delta]

since you also dont have Unzen, maybe buying Ariake or Yuugure would be a good idea. Or just get Haku and Eldridge retro

[low hull]

help, is eldridge's slow reliable enough to replace implacable's or nahh??

[sweet delta]

If you can accept some RNG losses then yes

[bright tusk]

Is yudachi burn has duration or unlimited?

[static harbor]

How many cores does retiring a UR give again?

[plain saffron]

There's duration

[sweet delta]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Fire_/_Burn_Damage 15.1 seconds

[sweet delta]

500 but it counts to the monthly cap so it's effectively 0 for active players

[static harbor]

oh ffs, well ty

[sharp socket]

how is fleet power calculated

🔮?

[sweet delta]

You don't want to find out

For starters equip all of your ships with gear

[sharp socket]

i have been doing that to save depot space

so gear equipped on ships raises fleet power, and the enhancement/rarity also affects it

then i assume no. of ships also affects this?

[sweet delta]

The simplest is (sum of all ship power)^0.667

Collab ships don't count, different limit breaks of the same ship count, and some other secrets also counts

[sharp socket]

so it gets exponentially harder to increase

oh dear diff limit breaks of the same ship

what about retro and nonretro versions of the same ship

[sweet delta]

some count some dont

nothing to worry about until youre top 20

[sharp socket]

so this is why people can have 1950/2000 dockspace

[stark quiver]

every ship in game
at each lb level

[sweet delta]

people can have 3000 cassins in dock, they just dont count for fleet power

[stark quiver]

only for whales

[sharp socket]

so fleet power is just the ultimate whale sink

[stark quiver]

so like the average player has like 9-10k fleet power if they grind somewhat
and around 14k~ if they grind a lot

[coarse heron]

My fleet power recently went past 10k and I felt like that was a lot

[zenith heron]

and I thought fleet power of 18k+ was needed for end game, looks like I am wrong

[eager mulch]

fleet power means very little

[forest palm]

5x Oxy Torp Rikka with 6k rating totally viable

[muted ember]

what's the use of this

[sweet delta]

if you don't have good AA but your vanguard ships are not close to dying

which is not often

[muted ember]

I mean I got a fully retro'd Sandy

[coarse heron]

It was more useful when it first came out 7 years ago

[sweet delta]

the specific conditions to make AA radar good are

1. your main fleet is dying to planes
2. your sandy would not die if she trades a toolkit for the AA radar
3. using the AA radar would save your main fleet
   it's rare to meet all three of these conditions

[muted ember]

I see

[coarse heron]

The Whaletail was also nominally useful for reducing ambush chance when it was harder to out recon the stage
That’s not really an issue anymore

[sweet delta]

SG radar was just better for that

[coarse heron]

Yeah it was more of an added bonus if you already needed it

I think I used it one time on W13 before figuring out the planes were already dying quickly from Sandy

[forest palm]

Back when AR had a use

[stark quiver]

fleet power means nothing
i have like 8k fleet power and im close to late-endgame

[quartz jungle]

I'm at 12 k fleet power total and I'm missing like 3 URs and 50 Elite/SR ships

[eternal moth]

I'm missing 4 ships and I'm at 14.5k

[viscid swift]

I am missing no ships and am at 14.9k

[tranquil saffron]

How is fleet power calculated?

[eternal moth]

Scroll up for an explanation

[stark quiver]

tldr dont actively grind for fleet power leaderboard unless you are willing to spend money

[viscid swift]

Yeah.....

[stark quiver]

only real ones remember piss chingus original name

[little tree]

~~ fat 🐋 ~~

[stark quiver]

it was something worse

[little tree]

What was it?

[stark quiver]

loli armpit

[little tree]

~~ holy down bad~~

[bright tusk]

Can its duration be extended by firing another HE bullets?

[sweet delta]

other HE bullets, if they ignite, will set their own fire for 15.1s

[wise knoll]

does this means i need 9 months to finish this? lol

[eager mulch]

no

they can appear in secured zones

[coarse heron]

It didn’t take you 20 months to get the first 20, after all

[jaunty vault]

isn't recon the adapts collection thingy

[plain saffron]

The tile that give adapts yeah

Guaranteed at least 1 per secured zone

[jaunty vault]

atleast?

[plain saffron]

Yes? Unless they changed it again last few months

Used to be rng at launch

[eager mulch]

at least 0

[plain saffron]

Are we talking about the same thing

[cobalt rapids]

at least about the thing

[plain saffron]

[left wasp]

Is it fine to run ldplayer scripts to automate azur lane dailies?

I've seen this sort of thing on other gachas (Iron Saga) and it seems to be fine
on htis other hand tho I've seen Bluestacks macros get the bonk

https://www.ldplayer.net/blog/how-to-use-operation-recorder.html

[inner delta]

no, it is not fine

[left wasp]

Dang
dunno why some game allow it and some games don't

[inner delta]

because game have different ToS?

they aren't created by the same person you know

[storm heron]

maybe beacuse they are different game

[forest palm]

[storm locust]

Akagi is obtainable in 3-4, right?

[wind hazel]

yes

[strong tartan]

yes but don't try and waste a bunch of oil by trying to get her

[storm locust]

I just like the carrier so I don’t mind wasting oil for her

[clever lance]

Would it be unwise for me to use my limited gold bulins to upgrade Leonardo based on my box?

[atomic abyss]

Very unwise

[clever lance]

Womp womp

[atomic abyss]

Subs are super low priority

[clever lance]

Are subs like last priority? Like non existent at all

[atomic abyss]

No, they are very useful in end game AL

But that assumes you have the right ones

And while Leonardo is one of those good ones
It matters little if the other submarines are crap

[clever lance]

Got cha.

I have amagi and shinano right now. I’m about to hit my 400 pity pull. Who should I get with my box

And I guess who should I level/get to mlb next based on my box?

[wind hazel]

get shinano dupe

[clever lance]

Why’s that? The rest suck?

[tropic tusk]

3u is good

[wind hazel]

because your shinano is unusable at the moment, so you wanna max limit break her ASAP

[tropic tusk]

flasher is good

[atomic abyss]

What Mori said

[wind hazel]

but also yes the rest kinda suck in comparison

[tropic tusk]

thats perfect u can mlb her

[clever lance]

I just wasn’t sure if I should use all of the bulins on my shinano yet

[wind hazel]

great, you can save 1 UR bulin

[elfin hollow]

I started late on the event but I have a Guiseppe now from the event shop, can I use the rest of the currancy in getting the event pulls or should I get dupes?

[tropic tusk]

but his missing 3 star

[wind hazel]

yes, that's where the shinano dupe comes in

[tropic tusk]

wait a min i dont see the dupe tho

[wind hazel]

read

[tropic tusk]

oh

[crimson glacier]

connect the dots

[clever lance]

He means using my 400th pity pull on shinano instead of getting a new one

[tropic tusk]

i didnt read top message mb

[wind hazel]

prioritize the ticket

[elfin hollow]

thanks!

[tropic tusk]

dont forget to use them it will be gone when event finish

[sinful elk]

Chat can i finally use ply (shes dev27)

[tropic tusk]

on 30 yes

[sinful elk]

im pretty sure someone say DRs are usuable past dev 25

[wind hazel]

as BB buffer sure

[tame jungle]

Dev30 she gets mgm +1 doesn’t she

So that means she’s missing a fuckton of her damage

[cobalt rapids]

usuable depends on ur dock but d25 ply buffing a UR bb is better than alot of other ships

[tropic tusk]

they tould me to use it on 30

or maybe i miss understood

[wind hazel]

most cases yes, dev30 or bust

[shell willow]

u can use her if u havent got better for the occasion, that simple

[tropic tusk]

oh ok

[coarse heron]

tanks specifically are usable at Dev25
But you lose out on DPS and fleet tech by doing that which can be significant

[tropic tusk]

so using it at 25 is only if u have no choice

[rose cosmos]

Wait their only 3 days left to farm event?

[edgy iron]

I need to know what is Keasurage personality like pls help I think she's very hot I want to focus on her

[cobalt rapids]

shipgirls personalities arent gameplay help relevant but if u think shes hot does it even matter

[edgy iron]

Because I want my girlfriend to cosplay her

[vale spindle]

ask in a different channel then like maybe #artist-lounge or #al-general or smth idk

[cobalt rapids]

wiki has her lines which should give u an insight into her personality

[edgy iron]

They are like just ignoring me this was the last resort

[edgy iron]

Thanks is there any link

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki kearsarge

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kearsarge
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kearsarge/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Kearsarge/Gallery

Oct 21, 2024, 7:48 AM

[pulsar hornet]

So need help to one shot Queen Elizabeth Meta. Keep falling cause of her mechanic

[cobalt rapids]

use a meta ship to kill knights

[crimson glacier]

isnt helena meta only ship that can 1 shot

or did like witchita powercreep that

[cobalt rapids]

i did it with mirov, and pretty sure michita has no issues either

[crimson glacier]

right kirov exists too

[cobalt rapids]

theres also the souryuum but i dont like trading backline if vang can do it

[pulsar hornet]

So.... if I want to do CV fleet... just go with Unzen, Meta, and Mogador with the Amagi, Haku and Shinano?

[cobalt rapids]

idr qem move patterns but if she moves during airstrikes run implac

[crimson glacier]

how much vanguard dmg there was

can you get away with unzen tank

[cobalt rapids]

not high enough for ply to not tank it iirc

[crimson glacier]

and id assume kaza would be much better than mog

[pulsar hornet]

Testing it out if Unzen can tank. Also, Implace over who?

[cobalt rapids]

haku

[crimson glacier]

imp amagi shinano

unzen kaza kirovm

[frank pulsar]

ply helmet/michita/mirov flex + ijn cv should work

[pulsar hornet]

Unzen can tank until almost the entire way. Almost killed QE in one go until she cockblocked one of my airstrikes cause I was using Helena Meta and I forgot to switch her out

[frank pulsar]

if using helmet she needs a +13 ply gun at the bare minimum for one shot iirc

[crimson glacier]

yeah it was pretty strict requirements

still could fail sometimes with that too

[pulsar hornet]

What's her preferred secondary for thsi?

[crimson glacier]

twin 130

but idk if the rainbows make difference

[rose cosmos]

Who should I put the beaver squad badge on

[reef flume]

Your boss fleet tank

[pulsar hornet]

It worked. Just need to make sure its stable

I needed Imp cause QE Meta just kept moving around

[frank pulsar]

you can drop helmet if youre using mirov

dont need two meta ship to kill knights

[pulsar hornet]

I'll try

It failed once strangely enough though that might just be Unzen getting unlucky. Still stable after swapping out Helmet for Kazagumo

[clever lance]

How do I upgrade roons skills?

[crimson glacier]

same way as all other skills?

[frank pulsar]

use book like any other ship
the only ships that have special method to level up skills are META ships

also, you already have the upgraded skill since you unlocked her last fate simulation level
just not leveled

[opal stirrup]

guy what ASW stat mean??

[graceful kelp]

good or mid destroyer ?

[crimson glacier]

anti sub warfare

i guess she isnt the worst but meh muses

[graceful kelp]

so shes worst than ayanami or kawakaze

[plain saffron]

Probably better

[bleak mica]

ain't those 2 are more oriented toward torpedoes? Tashkent does not have the same strength.

[graceful kelp]

so compare between ayanami, kawakaze or yukikaze which is a better option

[clever lance]

Thanks

[plain saffron]

Probably tashkent still

[graceful kelp]

among all 3 of them?

[lucid eagle]

how many chapters does event have>

[atomic abyss]

Kawakaze if she has augment

[clever lance]

I just got FDG… suggestions for which PR I should unlock next?

[atomic abyss]

Anchorage

[clever lance]

Would seeing my box change that suggestion lol

[soft dagger]

A,B,C,D,SP,EX

[lucid eagle]

ty

[atomic abyss]

No honestly

[alpine condor]

gimme iron blud shipyard XP team (disregard level and MLB for non-UR ships)

[tame jungle]

for what ship

[alpine condor]

agir

[arctic aspen]

which should I spend prints on? squishy catgirl?

[storm heron]

sure, or even better, use them when you can d30 the ship

[clever lance]

When we have blueprints for a specific ship, can we trade them in and only use gold to upgrade the pr ship even if we have blueprints?

[tame jungle]

as long as the ship is at least dev30, you can analyze prints for protocore

[bleak mica]

dev 30 + 165/215 prints respectively for PR/DR

[storm heron]

fdg bismarck elbe weser, roon z23 deutschland z1 magdeburg adalbert

[alpine condor]

okok tysmmm

[graceful kelp]

i feel like i dont have much good ships :(

[queen jackal]

fdg d30>nelson retro?

[half plover]

is single row the best setting for 14-4 boss? I tried double once but my flagship got instantly melted

[storm heron]

might be because your damage with it is barely enough to kill threats

[crimson glacier]

i dont think formation matters for your backline getting nuked

[rose cosmos]

These are worth once per day rite?

[half plover]

my fleet is good enough for 14-4

but yeah might be because I was lacking dmg

[storm heron]

time the damage to sink enemy BBs before they do salvos

[coarse heron]

Yeah

[alpine condor]

oh ya which stage btw

[rose cosmos]

Also lol it took me like 3-4 days to complete weekly mission when I first started, now everything just scrolled immediately within 30 mins of auto

[short matrix]

do you think event skins from "The Way Home in the Night" will become available during black friday?

[alpine condor]

?

[half plover]

guys is 457 +13 prio

it says only +13 if u know what u are doing, but I think it is good for nagato meta fights and maybe also for ch14 15 mobbing?

my 3 champys are +13 already

[soft dagger]

12-1/12-4

[soft dagger]

it's low prio

[half plover]

ty

[alpine condor]

okok tysmmm

buttt doesn't my fleet die from the enemies

[tame jungle]

idk, does it?

[alpine condor]

ya prob iono haven't tried yet...

[tame jungle]

if you're farming on threat level safe 12-1 is super easy

[alpine condor]

lemme tryyy

[storm heron]

I only needed one of them +13 in the hardest campaign, but more of them probably would make rng better, do note that the gun has little use outside since they do not sync with anything

[alpine condor]

i'm still on lethal

i guess i'll lower it down...

[tame jungle]

you could just try 1 then see how much dmg they take

[alpine condor]

mmm no worries using auto rn to lower threat levelll

[alpine condor]

if this is what you'd say then i'll try frfr

thank you as welll

oh ya iron blood fleet takes the mobs for XP right???

or can it doesn't matter???

[tame jungle]

any xp you earn on iron blood ships will count, provided it's the right type of ship

[alpine condor]

mmm okok tysmmm

[tame jungle]

for agir it's different for the 1.2 and 2.4 grind

[frank pulsar]

cb all need main fleet exp for part 1 and vanguard exp for part 2

[tame jungle]

yes

[queen jackal]

who should i focus on next? i have fdg anchorage roon

[exotic wren]

I'd say Agir or AvP

If you have enough Kms tech points that is

[rose cosmos]

Honestly people should go for their favorite once in a while lol

[queen jackal]

i have enough for both ye

[rose cosmos]

I immediately did August and still progress decent

[tame jungle]

if people were playing for waifu they'd not be in gph

[exotic wren]

i am here, tho it just happens that my waifus are strong

[rose cosmos]

My point is that playing for meta is fine, but going for waifu pick once in a while won't "kill your gain"

[tame jungle]

ok so what are you adding to the conversation here

because i don't think that's what they came in here for lol

anyways yeah i second avp and agir, hakuryu if you didn't manage to pick up amagi cv

[exotic wren]

Since avp is coinable might as well get her first

[tame jungle]

avp still great in her niche at fs5 and easy to get to that standard

[queen jackal]

whats her niche?

[humble harbor]

is there a equipment tier list or no?

[tame jungle]

at fs5 she's a guaranteed stopper (stops enemies from moving completely) so all your converging torps can hit a single target

[tame jungle]

/equip

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[queen jackal]

i see, and which content would i be using that in

[tame jungle]

mostly operation siren running triple cv fleets if you don't have implac

[humble harbor]

thx and for the oil xp chart, does lower the number means better xp effiency?

[tame jungle]

uhh is it xp per oil or oil per xp?

i'm assuming the former, which means higher number better
if it's the other way around, then lower number is better
()

[humble harbor]

I think it might be the former, since a lot of the colors for the lower numbers are very prominent.

[queen jackal]

my only 2 ur are shina and amagi does this change anything?

[tame jungle]

Not really

[tender python]

If I have unzen should I still go for drake?

[alpine condor]

how many clears does it take for a threat level to go all the way down to safe

[pulsar hornet]

How much tankier is Napoli compared to Agir?

[icy mist]

Unzen outdps Drake but shes an extra ship to have

[soft dagger]

click it

[humble harbor]

What's the general tip/recommendation for Ops?

[soft dagger]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HF6_hLEB8m_v0stp4DLGnIoDjgojvo7fjYz-cysjTMc/edit?gid=1013080823#gid=1013080823

[half plover]

wait what Ping Hai is that high wow

[soft dagger]

finish chapter 4 asap if this is your first

[pulsar hornet]

Wait, Witchita Meta is that fragile?

[rose cosmos]

Is giusep worth mlb

[forest palm]

she's Lv 120 Tech, and she can be used for CDC grind that's all her value amounts to

[white agate]

About cognitive awakening, is it possible to awake a ship to level 125 before retrofit to spend less coins and awk chips?

[forest palm]

retro doesn't change ship cost

[pliant acorn]

When is the next tempesta event?

[forest palm]

this week more than likely

[pliant acorn]

How to delete sirius 3D dorm files ??

[humble harbor]

already did. Just trying to farm for stuff, not sure what's the general guide for it

[soft dagger]

clear everything really

[forest palm]

nothing short of redownloading the game

[soft dagger]

after that just spam C3 or C5

[humble harbor]

Are there any way to efficiently farm lab/gear materials

[eternal basalt]

Thursday

[soft dagger]

same answer, clear everything and farm

[eternal basalt]

In Dorm select delete files

[lone knoll]

Generally do you always pull the new sr units or just save for ur only?

[exotic wren]

UR only

Most people here don't really pull for SR banners when under 400 cubes

[lone knoll]

so when a sr event is on u just do the 3 daily and dip?

[plain saffron]

i pull everyone

[exotic wren]

Nagamon, you're a fossil

[plain saffron]

it's not hard if you can manage to plan your cubes and play the game

that's irrelevant, cheeky is not a fossil and can do it

[novel solstice]

I like to collect everyone, so I pull for every ship. But if you're trying to get a fleet that is optimal for hard content and have relatively few cubes, save them for the UR banners because UR ships are so overpowered that very few SRs can compete.

[lone knoll]

I've been very luccky, idk if my luck runs out my cubes will also follow along

[exotic wren]

Just do the 3 daily pulls a day then

On events*

[lone knoll]

I was told that 2UR events are coming this year So I should AT LEAST have 600 cubes as of now right?

[novel solstice]

If you play daily, you will in the long run be getting enough cubes that it's possible to keep pulling for everyone, even free to play... but if you're new, one streak of bad luck can burn your supply of cubes pretty fast.

Re-run events like this are nice, you get free-build tickets so you can do 3 event pulls per day on your free tickets.

[plain saffron]

put a limit on how much you spent per event, like it's not worth 400 cubes for that one elite and play more

[lone knoll]

thats what im scared of, as of now i pulled every banner unit fast but what if i hit pity? cubes stockpile gone

how many cubes do yall have and how long have you been playing?

[late flame]

just pull selectively. reruns are a thing after all

[viscid swift]

I have 1300 almost right now after almost 5 years

[plain saffron]

wait i thought you're not a fossil

[novel solstice]

There are likely to more UR events this year, so it's good to have at least 400 cubes for whichever comes next; if you play daily you should be getting enough cubes in over time to be good for the one after that (approximately 170 per month, so in a 2.5 months you'll have enough new cubes to hit pity on a UR event in december just from income through then). If you don't play daily, you need a bigger stockpile.

[late flame]

i have around 800 but i whale though

[lone knoll]

okay I should be fine then im at 550 right now, 170/month is a lot I wasnt expecting that

[novel solstice]

I've been playing since launch, I have every ship and over 5k cubes.

[plain saffron]

would be closer to 200 if you play the game

[late flame]

tbh unless rng really shits on you realistically 400 is more than enough

[lone knoll]

I play it every single day at least 1h daily

[exotic wren]

For a moment there nagamon, I thought you were referring to another cheeky

[viscid swift]

Would be closer to 2k if I didn't cube so hard for pr7

[lone knoll]

Azur lane has been my luckiest gacha ever, i hope that does not happen

[lone knoll]

yeah im hoping I can start to cube up on research aswell

[viscid swift]

Not a fossil compared to some here

[novel solstice]

If you've played for more than 2 years, it becomes a lot easier to pull for every ship, because at that point you're getting a lot of re-runs where you got the ships the first time around so you don't need to spend any.

[plain saffron]

bcs we have higher rates

[novel solstice]

Azur is a lot more generous than many gacha games -- their business model is to make getting ships pretty easy and make the $ on skins. Most gacha games make getting characters hard and try to make money on people paying $ for extra pulls.

[lone knoll]

Yeah its hard to enjoy other gachas seeing how f2p friendly azur lane is tbh

[alpine condor]

wahhh fleet dieddd maybe because unbuilttt helppp i needa farm 12-1 for shipyard XP for agir

[exotic wren]

Uhh yea if that fleet didn't die I would be more suprised

At which part of the CDC are you at?

[strong tartan]

your uvh isn't limit broken

[late flame]

12-1 - do you not have an iron blood cv?

[alpine condor]

i know

[alpine condor]

ya

[alpine condor]

i need both vanguard and main fleet XP

[strong tartan]

you do understand she isn't like doing anything

[alpine condor]

mmm well i could buy 4 bulims rn to MLB her...

[exotic wren]

.....ye but not both at the same time

[late flame]

you cannot do both cdc at the same time

[alpine condor]

should i??? (i have other ur ships idk who to prioritize )

[strong tartan]

just save those bulins for whatever new ur is coming in December

[alpine condor]

then lemme add em to existing fleets then tysmmm

[alpine condor]

alrighty tysmmm

[frank pulsar]

uvh already pretty powercrept amongst the rainbows, its highly discouraged to invest in her

[alpine condor]

fr???

[late flame]

and uvh is at best niche for certain fights as well

[strong tartan]

yes she's reaching 3 years old

[hollow gust]

What niche

[late flame]

such as opsi and certain challenge modes

[frank pulsar]

shes been meta like once in the past year

maybe twice or thrice if you make that 2 years but idr

[hollow gust]

No opsi bosses favor uvh

[strong tartan]

he didn't say opsi bosses he just said opsi

[frank pulsar]

ye but nothing in opsi favours uvh in particular

[hollow gust]

There is nothing these days that UvH does best

Her best thing is her crossfleet

[plain saffron]

but no ship can do what only uvh can do

bcs of her weird timing

[frank pulsar]

we dont need the weird timing though thats the thing

she would be great in mobbing if her dmg penalty doesnt work the way it does

[plain saffron]

welp that's why niche

[hollow gust]

Mobbing has been double CV/La for ages , using uvh off flag is a pretty big detriment

[frank pulsar]

she has great uptime though, but yea lesser planes is

[remote quarry]

Yeah, most of my mob fleets are double CV(L) plus a barrage BB as flag

[soft raft]

would be nice if her reload gimmick wasnt limited to off flag tbh

otherwise she's just FdG lite without it

[hollow gust]

Augment time , with toggleable modes

[viscid swift]

Kirov and Repulse META come to mind

[hollow gust]

You can still do better with BBs today

[lone knoll]

do you keep grinding d3 after the first clear or just go back to whatever campaign stage you were farming before?

[soft raft]

have you already gotten everything you want out of the shop?
Y: Go back to campaign
N: Continue grinding D3

[frank pulsar]

depends, if you need the event points just repeat d3 until you have enough
otherwise go back to campaign ye

[forest palm]

on reruns I get like 45k points, and leave

[lone knoll]

I just need the ship to drop OR i can just buy it and go back to 12-1

I'm only buying the prints/oil/gold/chips

[opaque gate]

any good?

[soft raft]

2nd best rocket fighter for anti-medium when AA is NOT a concern
IE OpSi 99% of the time

[zenith heron]

Pretty good for Light/Medium bosses aside of the La-9 and the Hvar Hellcat

[forest palm]

can be used for light armor

[opaque gate]

in w13, is it good?

[atomic abyss]

When AA is not a concern

You're never using that plane in campaign

[soft raft]

When AA is NOT a concern
And AA is very much a concern in W13

[zenith heron]

A hellcat would be better for that

[opaque gate]

what world is aa not a concern?

[atomic abyss]

None of the relevant ones

[opaque gate]

rip

[atomic abyss]

You use it for operation siren and meta showdowns

[soft raft]

You still need AA in some capacity in all of campaign
Also we say this because rocket fighters have no passive interception

[opaque gate]

okayy thanks

[zenith heron]

Even in world 14 where subs are the problem, there are still planes to intercept

[lone knoll]

is worth to buy the gold tech boxes from the event? i dont have many gold steam cats/still using lots of purple gear

[hollow gust]

If you can afford it after the important stuff

[lone knoll]

important stuff are blueprints/cogs/oil/gold right

[hollow gust]

Good enough

[wind hazel]

anyone got implacable with la9+amagi+shinano loadout for nugget?

[hollow gust]

[forest palm]

can't be bothered to retool, it's not that hard to do though

[wind hazel]

oh found suchi's, yoink

[rapid grail]

is yk2n rerun in between deceber 2024 UR and CN Anni 2025?

[half plover]

is DD AA bad tech? or alright to do

[wind hazel]

bad

[forest palm]

pretty useless

[half plover]

like any aa tech is useless in general?

[forest palm]

HP, DD EVA, and ASW are junk

any AA tech is useless

[half plover]

also any asw?

[forest palm]

yes

[half plover]

what about bb bc eva

[forest palm]

there's no BB EVA, it's only BC so junk

[half plover]

ty

[cobalt rapids]

daisen doesnt exist

[forest palm]

Halford doesn't exist though that's for sure

[soft raft]

🔮
Take this as you will, esp that side note at the bottom

[forest palm]

Main Fleet Tech: Hit + RLD → FP + AVI
Vanguard Tech: Cruiser EVA → FP → RLD → Hit → TRP
stats not listed aren't worth the 120 tech grind

[half plover]

ty

[brisk cedar]

fleet tech grind is so massive that it's almost imposslbe to finish to be honest

[forest palm]

not really

[wind hazel]

it take years

[rapid grail]

you leveling up ships is usually faster than the game introducing new ships
sure it'll take years
mental endurance moment

[forest palm]

I have about 78 ships left baring any new ones that may release

Main Fleet Tech is most certainly easy, and the quickest to finish

[weary gust]

And it's probably taken you 5 years of fully active playing.

[forest palm]

not really, actually about 2 ~ 3 years of actaully caring

[soft raft]

i should start doing this at one point
I told myself I would start it with PR7 but lol i've been lazy

[forest palm]

[brisk cedar]

well i have almsot all the important fleet tech (main fleet hit and rld) but yes finishing them all would take years..

[forest palm]

I should update my tracker

also tech grind is basically DDs in the end

[weary gust]

Yep ... there's so many of them.

[lone knoll]

what gun do you use on eldridge retro?

[wind hazel]

78 ships left of relevant tech or 78 ships left of entirety of fleet tech?

[forest palm]

relevant

[wind hazel]

boo

[forest palm]

there's like 262 ships with tech that I haven't done, of those I only care about 78

it helps that I sit on 104k cog chips, so I have more than enough for those remaining 78

[lone knoll]

104k wtf

[novel solstice]

I'm down to about a hundred ships remaining to have all fleet tech. Scraping together the chips has been a royal pain.

[lone knoll]

how do you track wich one is done or not? do you use external tools or some page in game says it?

[forest palm]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

[novel solstice]

I bought a ton of dock space, so I track by "is the ship lvl 120 yet?". Technically it is visible in game in the lab, but I find that interface annoying.

[forest palm]

I use the favorite system for ships with relevant tech, and cross reference the tracker

[wind hazel]

[inner delta]

[wind hazel]

btw what vanguard do people use if imp+amagi+nano for nugget meta

kaza unzen and?

[novel solstice]

Yeah, my chip pile usually is below a thousand because all those ships are lined up waiting for chips, so I spend them as soon as I've got enough.

[forest palm]

for what...nugget fight?

[soft dagger]

mogador

[wind hazel]

still mogador?

[soft dagger]

she boost your torp

[forest palm]

outside of playing since they released cog chips, I'm not so sure how I amassed so much

[undone plover]

did anyone try kaza unzen ibuki?

[soft dagger]

i think suchiguma(?) tried that, idr

yea he did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMeisgSim7g

[forest palm]

[sharp socket]

is next daily reset last day of event?

[wind hazel]

no, another

[sharp socket]

oh 2 more days then

[forest palm]

about 64 hours

[sharp socket]

farm D3 for ship (have 1 copy), D2 for more catapult (need 4 more gold catas for w15) or 12-4

[wind hazel]

just farm w12 for techbox for catapult

but i'd farm d3 since you only have 1 giuseppastroyapdoappi

1 more dupe is 1 more gold bulin saved

[sharp socket]

what if i never get around to lb’ing her

i had that thought process too that someday i will lb them

[forest palm]

then - FP

[sharp socket]

thanks for the idea i got 3 catapults

[nimble leaf]

Should I change long island with Peny?

[stark quiver]

whats your fleet right now

[nimble leaf]

Uhh

[nimble leaf]

Long island (flag ship), Roma, Unicorn, Nimi, Helena, Portland

[stark quiver]

no

[nimble leaf]

So keep long island?

[stark quiver]

yes

[nimble leaf]

Which is the best 2 aircraft carriers 1 BB or 2 BB 1 Aircraft carriers

Just asking

[stark quiver]

i like to run 1bb 2 cv

[nimble leaf]

Ok thx

[nimble leaf]

One last question, my friend wants to play Azur Lane and he asked me "is there a difference between Nimi,Javelin and Laffey?" If yes then which character should he choose

[stark quiver]

who they like the most

[nimble leaf]

He doesn't know

[stark quiver]

id pick nimi personally, cuz i can get like 48 tech pts for ironblood

and there isnt much difference between the 3

[nimble leaf]

Ok, and why Yostar didn''t add ayanami too?

[stark quiver]

Idk gotta ask them

[remote yarrow]

She's obtained through collection instead of being an starter, same how Z23 isn't available as a starter in JP and gotten through collection, as to why

[forest palm]

[nimble leaf]

Ohh

[shrewd halo]

Am i stupid why can i not do her fate simulation? I've completed 3 series by now and this never happened

[viscid swift]

she doesn't have a fate sim

[nimble leaf]

This is my squad so far but I got Queen Elizabeth, should I replace someone?

[viscid swift]

no

[shrewd halo]

[nimble leaf]

What should I do with queen?

[viscid swift]

bench her until you grind tech

[nimble leaf]

K

[soft raft]

Currently Agir, Plymouth, Brest, Hindenburg, Kearsarge, and all of PR7 do not have fate sims

The PRs within a series get theirs August the year after their release while DRs are on a much more random schedule

[remote yarrow]

put Roma in the middle

[eager mulch]

reroll material?

[nimble leaf]

K

[cobalt rapids]

potential perfect

[eager mulch]

youre already perfect

[bright tusk]

any fleet and gear suggestion for nakhimov when fighting med armor boss and giving her need of slow inflicted by other NP ships?

[eager mulch]

depends and depends

[frank pulsar]

^^^ give more context

[eager mulch]

depends and without any more context la9, la9, vit2 conv

[crimson grove]

okay so I can enhance unequipped gear from the depot but equipped gear takes me to the unit in dock
any setting to change that

[eager mulch]

no

[crimson grove]

drat

[signal pollen]

My current bb comp is nj, vanguard, and bis zwei. Should I save this pity, go for shimakaze, or go for ulrich?

[soft raft]

Shinano > everyone else

[crimson grove]

he has nano

[forest palm]

Ulrich wouldn't change anything she's just RLD tech at that point

[crimson grove]

just grab shima ig for opsi cross fleet

[signal pollen]

Wait why her? I mean I have her but I thought she wasn’t that good because she needed a faction plane and a comp right?

[eager mulch]

shinano doesnt need a faction plane or comp

[soft raft]

Shinano only needs two other IJN ships

Which is pretty easy to do in the comps she's used in the most

[signal pollen]

I guess I grab shimakaze then

Thanks for your feedbacks

[cobalt rapids]

shinano dupe if shinano isnt mlb

else grab ulrich

[tired sundial]

all my cat 30 lvl, how to scrap\sale new cats?

[stark quiver]

Make 1 new cat, then feed all the bad cats to it
And then repeat

[eager mulch]

what if all slots are full of max level max skill cars

cats

[forest palm]

expand cat dorm

[vale spindle]

They arent all optimal so delete them in order from least suboptimal

[eager mulch]

how to delete them aside from cannibalism

last I checked you couldn’t feed cats into cats who are max leveled and skilled

[vale spindle]

oh

[sour wigeon]

hey, kinda newish (have been playing on and off), and decided you get a little more into it. would y’all be able to help me know which ships to prioritize if i send ss of my dock? c:

[left cedar]

make a thread, send all ur ships, Blue to Rainbow

PS: this game gears matter the same and sometimes even more than ship itself. so its a gud thing get know gears and understood about it

[sweet delta]

Then your cat career is bricked

[sour wigeon]

should i send them as ss or listed names? (wanna make it as easy as possible to help cause i v much appreciate it)

(also idk much abt game gears 😅)

[left cedar]

SS

[valid apex]

gratz, i think you just bricked your cat lodge unless you can expand the cat limit(I may be missing it but I didnt realise/see where the button is)

[forest palm]

[stark quiver]

No cat? No problem

[undone plover]

is this a 3 point cat?

[left cedar]

dammit son, this one is a real thing

iirc
RLD, RLD and TRP, Alpha
Lucky asf

[undone plover]

but it is not perfect right?
cause missing a pt?

or is this the max roll
cats confuse me

[left cedar]

its normal 3 talents one
the talents can be 2 or 3, once is 2 they came with "LV2"

"normal" in sense of having 3 talents
and yeah, its a perfect start

[undone plover]

but I thought 4 point is possible on initial roll

[reef flume]

Not really a game-related stuff (dunno if this is the best place to ask sorry forgive me) but isn't Operation Convergence rerun coming before Musashi rerun?

[hollow gust]

3 is a bit rough though

Prefer 4 point cat starts

[undone plover]

I see
just wanted to double check the 3 vs 4 thing thanks
i guess it is good enough for now

[left cedar]

it will be pretty hard find something to replace this one ...

[cobalt rapids]

its a 9 point cat

would def reroll it tho

[sweet delta]

Unfortunate

[undone plover]

how do I add a point

[cobalt rapids]

its just 4 trp off

[sweet delta]

I need a 10 point steel too

[undone plover]

So I just need to roll destiny on it

[cobalt rapids]

me too

[cobalt rapids]

destiny or lv1 trp talent, after flame ofc

[sweet delta]

Depends

[undone plover]

oh 5 talents is max I forgot
so u cant overcome the extra point with destiny right?

[cobalt rapids]

what sushi said

[left cedar]

Yes, 5 is max, and no u cant use the extra if u take Destiny

[sweet delta]

The best roll you can get with that cat is not destiny

[undone plover]

yeah I think I am getting the idea now thanks

[sweet delta]

Assuming you want 20 rld, which is easier to roll anyways, the best is
Flame wolf officer3 rld3 trp1
Followed closely by flame wolf off3 rld3 destiny

[undone plover]

so in a 4 point starter u could technically have a useless extra point right?
1 for 2 rainbow + alpha and 6 on 2 3 level talents
which leaves u with 1 useless point?

[cobalt rapids]

technically yes

[sweet delta]

Trp2 or even trp1 is better than destiny though

[undone plover]

oh destiny **decreases **luck 🚮
i see

[cobalt rapids]

mby faer puts tempestas in his sub fleets

[eager mulch]

mby faer puts temestas cats in his sub fleets

[sweet delta]

Just think that destiny is worth 6 trp

[undone plover]

is that the same for AVI and FP?

[rose whale]

is napoli and nakhimov good at dev 20?

[stark quiver]

No

[cobalt rapids]

destiny buffs ur entire fleet not only 1 hull in normal fleets

[atomic abyss]

Nakh is actually garbage at that point - only 6 planes

Napoli is fairly tanky by that point, but worse than other research tanks still

[cobalt rapids]

but im sure sushi will post the range from dd to bb on fp equiv

[sweet delta]

Lower stat ships like vanguard fp benefit more from 10 fp than high trp subs benefit from 10 trp

[undone plover]

I see

[vale spindle]

log scaling moment

[atomic abyss]

Nakh at dev 25 is an interesting experiment tho

Nakh at d25 is competitive with AvP

[vale spindle]

but also really slow

[undone plover]

but also decreases the lck for all right? so fairly similar
but destiny doubly buffs trp and fp for sth like unzen i guess which is good

[undone plover]

assuming u run an NP slower

[atomic abyss]

Im the one who tested it extensively

ScharnM for instance

Again to be clear - not recommended

It just goes to show the sheer gap between UR CVs and non UR CVs really

Like the nakh loadout wasnt even good

I could kill the reload tech on amagi and sync with her easily
But the issue is trying to sync with Soyuz

I don't got a Musashi gun so

[stark quiver]

Is nakh expected to be lowest damage in this setup, even with mlb?

[viscid swift]

Gimme a sec

[atomic abyss]

I mean while she does have 9 planes
She doesn't have a flex slot
Is also missing 5% efficiency in each slot
And without fleet tech bonuses at all

And all that excludes other random missing stats

[stark quiver]

Maybe I should raise nakh

[atomic abyss]

The whole point of this exercise

Was to compare her performance to an fs5 AvP

Cos I was like hmm, AvP damage on heavy was bad, so what if

This was for QEM

[atomic abyss]

^

And d25 Nakh shouldn't be used by the average player

Only insane ones like yours truly

I haven't tried her against light admittedly

Sure AvP does more against light
But Tash would do more too

Has anyone tested Kear Yk2 Nakh for anti light yet

[undone siren]

Is Nak from an event just gone?

[atomic abyss]

No, she's permanent in research series 7

[reef flume]

Med/Heavy?

[undone siren]

Oh she's PR, ignore me

[atomic abyss]

ScharnM is med

[cerulean rampart]

hi. what is harder, tier 6 abyssal or hard mode arbiter?

[left cedar]

almost all BCs are med, few exceptions like Odin and others O-Class

[atomic abyss]

h-arbiter by MILES

[left cedar]

Arby is already a match for Abyss 6

Harby is even harder

[cerulean rampart]

ty

[undone siren]

Speaking of Kear
I'm currently using York II, Enty and Implacable for light armour in OpSi. Would Kear work better than Enty here once D30? I'm using my BBs for med/heavy

[atomic abyss]

she would yes

[stark quiver]

Yea probably with hvar and mk7

[atomic abyss]

wait
kear gun was a gold HE gun right?

[cobalt rapids]

it is

[undone siren]

Thanks, will put her in once she's D30

[soft raft]

It's basically a HE and American yamato gun yee

[atomic abyss]

...well perhaps i shd upgrade one to sync soyuz with nakh better

[reef flume]

I wonder if using fcr/afct on yamato gun while sync with two carriers (both with elite manjuu) would make the yamato gun shot always before (with a small margin) the carriers

[soft raft]

HSFCR/AFCT skill only works once so it'll still desync one way or another
in fact it would probably shoot after the carriers after the first salvo

[atomic abyss]

you'd need autoloaders, not fcr/afct

the alternative is maxing your BB reload tech and killing the CV reload tech

[reef flume]

I know how it works but:

With FCR (using a rld time of 25,30 seconds) the first shot is at 23,02 seconds. While the two carriers airstrike fires at 25,06 seconds meaning two seconds before them. Thus, I thought that she fires, then she starts to rld, two seconds after they launch their aistrike and starts reloading.

Which would mean that the BB would always fire before the carriers

On paper it should (keyword: it should). In reality I dunno

[atomic abyss]

those are really slow carrier airstrikes

23s is like skyraider with no beacon

[reef flume]

The ships used in this examples are lvl 125 non oathed Shinano and Haku with maintenance manjuu and a lvl 125 oathed (200 affinity) Musashi

[undone siren]

If CV's are doing anti-light, there's no point including Implacable right?

[soft raft]

Why are you even trying to sync Yamato gun to carriers anyways

[atomic abyss]

but whats the point of syncing with sushi

[reef flume]

More than sync, it would be better making her fire first so that they can take advantage of her 10% heavy armor debuff

[soft raft]

Unless you have AvP at FS5/You arent using 2 CV boss fleets in OpSi, you'd still use Implac for her freeze untility

[atomic abyss]

impla is just better than avp in almost all cases

the issue with impla is moreso you only have 1 impla

[soft raft]

Then why not use something that's faster and more normal like Izumo gun

[undone siren]

I was thinking rockets = less use of a slow/stop = using a different CV for more luight damage

[atomic abyss]

wat

[soft raft]

Rockets dont need freezes as much as TBs, but they can still whiff
not to mention that you'll still be using TBs in some capacity on your carriers

[atomic abyss]

and frankly

[undone siren]

Hm, alrighty then

[atomic abyss]

how many carriers besides yk2 top impla on light anyways

literally just nakh
maybe a good rng enty

[sterile fox]

Who is top?

[atomic abyss]

yorktown2

[reef flume]

Two reasons:

-The main one being that it does more damage
-The less important one being I like when I can do a lot of damages in a single shot( yes this is just me)

[undone siren]

Was under the impression that she was more towards med/heavy, but I guess not

[atomic abyss]

impla can take 6 fighters 3 TB or 3 fighters 6 TB

[soft raft]

^
Very flexible

[atomic abyss]

so does nakh by the way

[undone siren]

Oops, forgot she has a flex slot

Don't hurt me

[cobalt rapids]

the ijns

[atomic abyss]

at that point might as well use 457 and ignore syncing

[keen mural]

Generally speaking about augments should I focus on getting most purple ones for my fleet before crafting gold ones for a specific ship?
Since I'm new I don't have much resources for augments

[atomic abyss]

you craft the unique augments of ships you use first - i.e hood

[soft raft]

dont bother with augments for now, they're mostly extra stat bonuses
at most, the highest prio one would be Hood's

[atomic abyss]

frankly - purple augs arent even a priority at all

[soft raft]

^
the game existed for like 5 years before augments came out

[keen mural]

Alright thanks.

[reef flume]

Nah, I will just slap a reloader and go

But thx for the suggestion

[atomic abyss]

you literally will get an additional salvo off with a 457

[sterile fox]

Unique Augs are a significant gold investment, I would only make one if I really like that ship (like Hood or the starters)
Purple Augs are endgame material, and only useful when you already have a good fleet (since the stats are not very large)

Same idea for retrofit I guess

[reef flume]

That is the positive side, but then I would loose what is like a 43% damage increase. Hmmm

But I Will keep that in mind

[cobalt rapids]

retrofit should be invested into asap for the ships u use, mostly unicorn

[soft raft]

Yesnt
some retrofits are extremely cracked, some are just there, and some actively make them worse

[tame jungle]

Where did you get the 43% damage increase from

[sterile fox]

Aside from bbv I can't think of a bad retrofit

[soft raft]

Warspite
tho that's more like she's barely worth th sheer cost

[reef flume]

Damage increase+coefficient increase

Regular barrage is 207×1 and 207×6 with 100% coefficient

Enhanced is 270×1 and 270×6 with 110% coefficient

Doing some calculations, it's more than 40%

[sterile fox]

She's just powercrept, augment soon

[reef flume]

Warspite aug will make her top tier again trust

[sterile fox]

She will now target TWO targets and in less time

[tame jungle]

If you use izumo gun you lose some of the main gun damage and keep the barrage damage tho

But instead it syncs to helena etc

[reef flume]

Nah, she will target EVERYONE

[tame jungle]

Also i’m not sure what the math is on important fights when you effectively get a WHOLE extra barrage but that’s also significant

[reef flume]

I will keep everything in mind

Then when the time comes I will test everything

And go with the better result regardless it being 460, 410, 457.

Thanks for help y'all

[cobalt rapids]

yamato gun is not bad to sync with 3 strike cv and neither is it hard to do so

and its a better option than izumo gun for nagato meta for example

[reef flume]

It's not that hard, you calculate the 10% of 207 (which is 20,7 but you can round it up to 20 or 21) and sum it up

[viscid swift]

This is with skyriader on Amagi and no la9s

[tame jungle]

The math is not the thing i struggle with here lmao, it’s the total damage output over let’s say a meta fight that i’m referring to

[reef flume]

Ahh... My apologies then, I misunderstood

[keen mural]

Medal shop is the same for everyone?
Right now I have double CV selection, is there a way to know what's gonna be there on next reset?

[cobalt rapids]

different for each server

[tame jungle]

Medal shop is the same for everyone playing on the same server

[cobalt rapids]

and theres no way to know whats next

[keen mural]

[reef flume]

Hopefully next month in lil enty there is CL🙏

[keen mural]

Hopefully yeah or BB

So it's always a double selection of one of the class? Not mixed?

[reef flume]

It depends

Sometimes its CV CV (example)

Sometimes its SS CL (example)

[keen mural]

Ah cool

[sterile fox]

That's very nice

[jaunty glade]

are their any super high priority shipyard ships aside from anchorage and FDG? finished both now (developing FDG)

[cobalt rapids]

rest of pr4 if ur on pr4 focus

[half plover]

AvP is really nice in PR4 otherwise you could start developing and preparing plymouth in pr5

[stoic ermine]

what
does bnuuy suit laffey 2 actually say this i don't have her or the skin to check

[jaunty glade]

im on pr5 focus

[half plover]

@cobalt rapids is 2nd tenrai still prio for newer players bc of upcoming lab update

[cobalt rapids]

depends how far u are

[half plover]

@jaunty glade how many tenrai copies do u have currently

and how many did u buy in protoshop

[soft raft]

go ask #al-general, skins arent really as much of a focus here compared to there

[jaunty glade]

9/50, bought none

[cobalt rapids]

then work on ur pr5 ships that are closest to d30, which from pr should be harbin since she should be catch-upped
then ply and brest whenever they are closer to usable dev lvls

[half plover]

yeah 9 is not that much, just get 41 copies from shop and work on pr5

[jaunty glade]

keep focus on pr5 too right?

[cobalt rapids]

yea

[half plover]

yeah, also if you want you can catchup dev30 ships and turn in the prints into protocore

to speed up nice gear

[jaunty glade]

will do avp as well as my next shipyard development so I can stay coining 24/7

[sterile fox]

What's a good use case for Daisen gun?

Same question for Napoli's guns

[cobalt rapids]

when u want more dmg on heavy but the same timing as a +11 autoloader izumo gun on musashi

[reef flume]

Napoli CA gun is good according to others (not me)

[soft raft]

Napoli gun isnt too bad iirc, but if you already have the UR CA guns it's pretty whatever

[cobalt rapids]

napoli ca gun is a kursk gun sidegrade
napoli cl gun is good on medium but for both rainbows exist

[sterile fox]

Why +11? Isn't izumo gun gold and triple barrel?

[cobalt rapids]

i meant as in the autoloader is +11

guns is assumed to be same enh lvl for comparison

[reef flume]

An hypotetic prototype twin 460 in gear lab in future will make daisen gun useless

[viscid swift]

Doubtful

[soft raft]

is that even a real gun

[sterile fox]

Georgia gun already exists

[viscid swift]

Besides 457 already exists

[reef flume]

Project 13 battleship. Paper ships that had 4 × twin 460mm guns

[sterile fox]

Does WoWs have it? If yes I'm sure we'll eventually get it

[viscid swift]

No

[reef flume]

Unfortunately they do not

But hey, doesn't mean we can't get them (we literally have a prototype triple 380mm in gear lab on IB side and iirc there is not a ship in PR with such gun unless I remember bad)

[viscid swift]

We do have Satsuma and Shikishima

[viscid swift]

The triple 380 is Pommern's main gun from wows

[reef flume]

510mm sounds great... Buuut it will take likely few years

[reef flume]

Exactly
And we don't have pommern in AL but we got her gun

[viscid swift]

But she's also a ship in WoWs, project 13s never got far beyond the paper stages and isn't in WoWs

And again, the Georgia gun exists to fill the slot of a UR Twin 18 inch BB gun

[atomic abyss]

take this to #al-general

or #other-games if you wanna discuss wows

[reef flume]

My fault here

Sorry

[viscid swift]

And anyway, you make it sound as if the Daisen gun is in adequate, its not

[reef flume]

Sorry

[viscid swift]

Unlike the triple Musashi can quite comfortably get off 4 salvos without issue with the daisen gun

[hollow gust]

Ewww battle of Waterloo

[viscid swift]

Eh?

[hollow gust]

Eh?

[viscid swift]

tell me you like the French without telling me you like the French

[hollow gust]

Imagine taking seven coalitions to beat one man

[inland shoal]

Imagine discussing this in gph

[little tree]

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[brazen zodiac]

curious question, do you guys collect all the ships or remove all the common, rare ships after collecting the collection rewards

[forest palm]

some do, some don't

[stark quiver]

Burn all the ships you’ll never use
Or buy dock

[brazen zodiac]

i see, thanks!

[forest palm]

I have a copy of every ship in my dock

[half plover]

I collect every ship too

[stark quiver]

Well you only need 770~ dock for every ship

[forest palm]

not really, no

collection counts retrofits, so it's less than that

[stark quiver]

Well around that amount like an excess of 700~

[brazen zodiac]

much thanks for the infos!

[stark quiver]

if I happen to not get Roma using 3 pulls a day, and used all hr build tickets, should I still pull for her for the tech, I have 700 cubes

[forest palm]

so long as you maintain 400 cubes, up to you

[stark quiver]

Does 2 fp make a big difference if I have a bulk of the tech already

[half plover]

I set 550 as my limit this event bc of upcoming collab + ur

[forest palm]

it adds up

[novel solstice]

On a 500fp battleship, two more fp is a third of a percent more damage.

So, not much. But if you're getting that boss down to one health bar and just need a little more, a third of a percent could be enough.

[stark quiver]

Time to pray I get her with tickets then

[dawn crest]

Who should I MLB now?

[stark quiver]

Laffey2 without context imo

[dawn crest]

thanks

[hollow gust]

More like backline first if you done have anyone else

[stark quiver]

I’d assume they set filter to can mlb, but

[dawn crest]

yep

[dawn crest]

i have at the moment 5 UR BBs, Agir, Guam, and Brest Dev 27 CB, and no UR DD at MLB.

[half plover]

how many UR bulins do you have

[lucid eagle]

is ther any other use with 1 stars besides collecting and food?

[half plover]

u might want to wait for new urs in december

[viral sluice]

Unless I want them for waifu purposes, I get rid of rares/commons I don't need

[half plover]

u can get them to lvl 70 and mlb them one day

[lucid eagle]

what is MLB?

[half plover]

max star

[viral sluice]

Max Limit Break

[dawn crest]

2, and I can buy another 5

[lucid eagle]

i see, and we get rewards for that?

[stark quiver]

A select few have good tech

[viral sluice]

You get tech points

[half plover]

yes, you get fleet tech to develop ships and also account stats at lvl 120

[brazen zodiac]

fair

[viral sluice]

Prime example, I have Tennessee and California for this exact reason

[lucid eagle]

okay, but should I focus on that right now or more for mid/lategame?

[hollow gust]

Most of the best techs ingame are common and rares

[half plover]

a lot of rare and common ships have really good tech so you would want to bring ships to lvl 120 first before u think of retiring them

[stark quiver]

A bulk of the reload tech ships for cvs are rare/elite

[viral sluice]

Depends if you have the resources to do so. I passed on most of the commons until I could easily farm xp books

[dawn crest]

so the best option is laffey 2?

[lucid eagle]

sweet, thanks for the advice

I just got Warspite, is she better than Nelson?

[eager mulch]

worse

[icy mist]

What emu are you using?

[soft raft]

Worse both pre and after retro

[lucid eagle]

I see, thanks for the heads up

[brazen zodiac]

blue stacks

[lucid eagle]

I use nox, prefer the UI

is the guide reliable for the recommended gear per ship?

[viscid swift]

What guide

[forest palm]

everyone eventually raises Warspite for the 120 tech

[lucid eagle]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home tier list, when you click on a ship it gives a list of gear

[viscid swift]

Just read the guidelines and cross reference it with Sam's gear guide

[stark quiver]

You gotta read the descriptions, and the gear reccs will vary for chapter 13/14/15

[lucid eagle]

sweet thanks

[clever lance]

Is it worth it to unlock extra slots for skill research?

[storm heron]

generally not

[half plover]

just get the skills of the ships you use all to 6 and afterwards you can start working on important ships to higher levels

[clever lance]

Figured as much. Thanks

[fathom sable]

How to get more of this? i think OpSi but how exactly?

[eternal moth]

Hidden Zones and abyssals mostly. Cat nodes too

[storm heron]

Opsi shop too

[forest palm]

outside of shop that's all RNG and nothing is guaranteed

[languid reef]

is there a guide to retiring ships?

[stark quiver]

not really

[silk sphinx]

like to make space in the dock?

[stark quiver]

greys and blues are generally safe to retire
purples i guess if u have what you need, same goes with golds, dont scrap UR's

[languid reef]

nah just like, how do i optimize getting rid of ships idc about

[languid reef]

thx 👍
rn i just use the grey ones for enhancing, and retire the blue ones

[stark quiver]

yea that works

tbh theres like around 50-80 ships that are meta
rest are either niche or for tech

[silk sphinx]

Do you have enough dockspace? if so then the completionist method: keep one unique copy of everyone, and use any and all copies for limit breaking and commons for enhancing also. After that everyone gets retired except for commons who you'll use for enhancing

if you don't care about collecting then limit breaking is still a good idea for faction tech points even for bad ships

[languid reef]

i got about 250. thanks though

[silk sphinx]

it's not something you think a lot about tbh

especially for farmable or shop purchaseable ships since if you retire them they're easy enough to pick back up

[half plover]

for me it was enough to mlb ships since I could mlb them faster than running out of dock space

but yeah if you really struggle with dock space start to get rid of easy farmable dupes

[sturdy badger]

Is it today's reset or tomorrow's reset? Ngl, I'm still confused...

The tickets

[viscid swift]

they expire at server reset time on Thursday 3:00 AM EST

[sharp socket]

are CVs better at light than BBs

[stark quiver]

if you have hvars potentially

[sharp socket]

im thinking i put my cv fleet for light and keep bb fleet for heavy and then i dont need to swap gear for abyssals

[stark quiver]

if you are planning to run 109gs then
id run bbs with mk7 instead

[south sequoia]

If you got hvars, cvs can be reliably better vs light assuming something like kearsarge york

however if you lack hvars

you're better off running cvs for heavy and bbs for light

[sharp socket]

i have no kear or york or implac

[south sequoia]

then yeah

[stark quiver]

then bbs light cvs heavy

[south sequoia]

cv for heavy

[sharp socket]

welp rip the 457s

less mileage out of them

[stark quiver]

not rly, youll use them later on too

i got 2 and i rarely use them nowadays too

[south sequoia]

in campaign you're more likely to use them but after you finish campaign you really can't use them as much

which is why its kinda sadge if you just mass produce 457s out of nowhere

[stark quiver]

i do use my 457s for some cursed setup, honestly just a big middle finger to helena

[storm heron]

ended up only using one 457s

[sharp socket]

well i have 2 of them, and i used them against metato

[viscid swift]

yeah, there's a reason why we say use Champaign guns over 457s

[sharp socket]

thought id get lots of use for campaign, pvp, opsi, meta fights

[stark quiver]

well you can

[storm heron]

maybe helena augment would sync with 457

[south sequoia]

I mean you can but they just kinda need more time to time and adjust loadouts for

though you'd have to basically not use helena

[stark quiver]

actually, i use my 457s when i farm 12-1 with shitters

[storm heron]

idk, I like my mk8 better

[sharp socket]

since i do pvp theyll still be used 100% of the time but oh well, less usage for pve

[viscid swift]

457s are very useful, it's just their perceived performance against single target compared to Champaign guns is overinflated

[stark quiver]

what on earth is an mk8

[storm heron]

the precursor is better than 457s there isn't it?

[sharp socket]

only on soyuz

[viscid swift]

as I say, you're looking at more than 3 times the cost for not even necessarily an upgrade in performance

[storm heron]

the nj gun

[stark quiver]

its mk7

[sharp socket]

that one is mk4

[soft raft]

that's Mk7 not Mk8

[south sequoia]

depends on timings and loadouts

[sharp socket]

the ultra fast gold one?

[south sequoia]

mk4 is the purple...

[viscid swift]

time for EN shame

[storm heron]

like 457s is red flag, the gold +10% damage is green flag in pvp

[south sequoia]

^ 457s require more time and work for reliable performance when 406 champagne guns require less overall while achieving the same if not even better results

[storm heron]

yeah the mk4 above

[stark quiver]

i like pew pew pew

[sharp socket]

mk4 is before 457

mkD is to craft into NJ gun

[south sequoia]

[sharp socket]

champagne gun on meta fight is worse if not high tech + oath to bring into 4 salvo range, and has lower performance on 0 helena scan than 457

[civic crag]

FdG has a preload?

[viscid swift]

press x to doubt on both counts

[storm heron]

3 champagne gun is 3x cheaper than 3 457s though

[sharp socket]

for harbiter and other opsi fights champagne will be better cause cats give tech and longer fights

[civic crag]

How tf she fired her barrage the moment fight started tho

[sharp socket]

it is cheaper yes

[storm heron]

proximity barrage

[stark quiver]

if ur referring to d3 or sum read the map

[civic crag]

Ohhhhhhh ok Ty

[stark quiver]

or proxy barrage idk

[sharp socket]

but your resource gain is steady and eventually youll look for other options that might be better

[civic crag]

Oh flagship gets barrage preload on D3

[viscid swift]

let me ask you this then, have you tried leaning fully into 3 salvo champagne guns then rather than trying to 4 salvo

[sharp socket]

i say might because i still have not tested 457 vs champagne in other environments

[storm heron]

would you rather +13 musashi gun or the 457?

[sharp socket]

only metato so far

[stark quiver]

i +13 all

[viscid swift]

all I'll say is this, I have 3 +13 457s and against single target bosses I still use Champagne guns more frequently

[south sequoia]

worse if not high tech + oath
I have not oathed my bbs until this year and I was able to reliably get 4 salvos, while I do have max bb rld tech bbs don't require that much investment over all considering there is only a few required for max rld tech
lower performance on 0 helena scan than 457
I am very worried about the fleet you are running and its gears.

[stark quiver]

suboptimal fleets prolly

[south sequoia]

If you know yourself you can't get the tech for 4 salvo, maximize your 3 salvo set ups instead and get the most out of the damage

trying to 4 salvo set up without the tech hurts your output

[viscid swift]

you can also play a bit more fast and loose with your vangaurd comp

[sharp socket]

i have 4hrs of lecture coming up so i cant argue this right now but ill give what i used later

[viscid swift]

by which I mean because you're only living long enough to get 3 salvos off which is about 60ish seconds compared to the 80 you would need to get 4

[stark quiver]

i got 4 salvos off with 11 rld and no fcr
Granted idk if it even hit

[viscid swift]

let me rephrase, to get 4 full salvos off which would require your BBs to fire before 3 seconds are left on the timer

that is also one reason why I like the Daisen gun

[sweet delta]

Why would four salvo 457 take 77 seconds?

[viscid swift]

I'm talking about 4 salvo Champagne guns

[stark quiver]

huh, no champy

[sweet delta]

I agree with my good friend celerio that 457 is good at +10 for low tech and low affinity

[viscid swift]

to get 3 of them, that is just, unreasonable

[sweet delta]

Nobody said 3

[storm heron]

is 5 salvo 457 possible?

[viscid swift]

I would mandate 3 pretty much because you need to worry about syncs between BBs not just Helena

[sweet delta]

You'll see

[viscid swift]

trying to mix and match is rather jank

[stark quiver]

youre gonna be sacking a good chunk of damage to get 5 salvo

[viscid swift]

well no actually, I should say I have because I did do that for my updated QE META comp

but that was very much driven by the specifics of that battle

[south sequoia]

Is that so

[sweet delta]

3 salvo champ won't beat 4 salvo 457+champ unless Helena scans enough

[viscid swift]

again though, getting 3 457s is the primary issue and if you don't you're gonna be scuffing your sync

I reiterate, I'm not saying 3 salvo Champagne is better than 4 salvo 457, it's not

[storm heron]

sits in the corner while getting more tech

[viscid swift]

but the cost of doing the latter is quite simply exorbitant, T3 ordinance reports are already by far the most scarce resource in OpSi

[sharp socket]

ok heres what i used for nagato meta and 4hr lecture now bye

[sweet delta]

2 or even 1 457 is a benefit at same enhance and perhaps worse enhance. Better damage is better damage

[viscid swift]

care to prove it?

genuine question

[sharp socket]

wait helena has sg on both

[stark quiver]

sandy

[sweet delta]

Prove what, 4 is greater than 3

[sharp socket]

ignore the manjuu brainfart

[viscid swift]

prove that a mix of 457s and Champys is better than 3 +13 Champaign guns damage wise

that is effectively what you are arguing is it not