gameplay-help

[sharp socket]

full clear hard stages for 3* reward if chasing for retrofits, though now is 3x core data so just do your highest stage

[lucid eagle]

not sure what my highest stage is rn and I'm scared to waste my 3 daily limit lmao, but I guess I should try anyway

[sweet delta]

losing/quitting the sortie doesn't cost a daily try, just oil and time

[echo vector]

I think if you retreat/not defeat hard stage it'll not consume your daily try on hard

[sharp socket]

is drake or azuma better to build first

[echo vector]

For rule of thumb go for highest PR number and the ultra rare ships first

[wind hazel]

if you have enough tech and tanks, no difference. throw a dice

[lucid eagle]

oh I didn't know that thank you for letting me know!

[sharp socket]

how is azuma at tanking vs agir and brest

[wind hazel]

worse

[echo vector]

Like generally speaking PR 7 ships are way better than PR1,2,3. Like that. Just from my knowledge

[echo vector]

Aegir is way better

[sharp socket]

alright drake it is then

[coarse heron]

Drake is like, the worst DR

[sharp socket]

i want protocore

[coarse heron]

Drake is fine if you already got her

[wind hazel]

i personally never used both of them

they are just that useless

[sweet delta]

i used both of them to 125

[wind hazel]

that's because you are a nerd

[sharp socket]

also it feels weird not spending loads of coins daily and i cant claim my free auto generated coins

[sweet delta]

drek was meta for repulse meta

[lucid eagle]

also I just got Belfast, should I prio her compared to my other ships?

[sharp socket]

so might as well go coin a DR for protocore

[spring bolt]

belfast in 2024 is more like a skin display, performance wise not good and she will need her special aug

[lucid eagle]

I see, so don't prio her then?

[spring bolt]

not recommended

[lucid eagle]

sweet thank you

[sharp socket]

do royal navy frontline ships just have bad tech overall except ply

[inner delta]

some of them has CA/CB rld which is something

[sharp socket]

cruiser hit is good?

i was mainly looking for fp and found none

[hollow gust]

hit always good , even then still alot of ships

[vital phoenix]

This enough for stages that needs sub or would it be better to replace someone? Also what formation

[spring bolt]

ca/cb hit are most useful as base hit is not high for them

[raven marsh]

what should i buy with core data after having 4 sets of black and white shells, 1 elite aviation manjuu, and 2 homing beacons?

i have like 3k now

[wind hazel]

independence

[raven marsh]

oh yeah i have her too

[spring bolt]

subs themselves don't make a big difference except some
what matters are level and equips

[sharp socket]

setting aside why you have 4 sets of shell, consider sub gear

[spring bolt]

arrays and chips

[raven marsh]

sorry i forgot to mention i also have 3 sets of snorkels and hull designs for sub fleet

[wind hazel]

ddg seals, oxytorp, fumo, kinda whatever you want at this point

[sharp socket]

well then looks like you got all you need, you can buy whatever at this point

[raven marsh]

oo nice ty

[vital phoenix]

Yea I just wanna know if the comp is good enough cuz if yes I'll level them. If not then I'll get whoever then raise them

[raven marsh]

is there a certain number of oxytorps and fumos one should aim for

[wind hazel]

fumo 1-2, oxytorp 🔮

[raven marsh]

do u guys ever save core data for anything

[tame jungle]

not anymore

[spring bolt]

with correct equips, this fleet will be able to beat the stage, yes
usually rainbow oxy + snorkel + double mk16

[sharp socket]

6 oxytorps would be more than enough probably

given how top meta fight comps use like 4

[sweet delta]

and then you try high-scoring coalition EX

[raven marsh]

aight guess im goin all in on oxytorps for the next few months

[sharp socket]

alternatively you can get ships for tech, or illustrious u for w15 support fleet is what im going for

[raven marsh]

ah yes i will buy out the chips too

[sweet delta]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[karmic pebble]

Yo wtf can someone tell me wassup

Glitch?

[tame jungle]

last one probably

[spring bolt]

wait i might misunderstood you... you mean using them in normal stages, right? i thought you were trying to beat the sub daily stage... CN also doesn't read
in that case, replace u556m with albacore if you can and build her special aug, but you can use u556m for now and that won't be a big issue

[karmic pebble]

I hope you find 10bucks in your pockets today man

It works thanks bruv

[tame jungle]

🫡

[wary timber]

Are tenrais great against every armor type ?

[tame jungle]

yea

[vital phoenix]

Lols yea. What I meant is if that sub comp is enough for harder stuffs that needs sub like ch14-15 and harb(??).

But hmmm... I still need to buy albacore huh. I'll probably get her after buying eldridge

[sharp socket]

beaten only by skyraider on light

[spring bolt]

and for equips, normally mag torps like g7e and bidder are preferred, and usually recommended auxes are snorkel + hull design

[spring bolt]

no if you add actual bomb physical contact rate, skyraider will beat tenrai on medium, both dps and dph
tenrai bombs do have better peak damage if you are willing to reroll

[hybrid schooner]

To complete 'Recover 1 record file' mission in OPSI, do I just spam the zone until the file procs or is there some gimmick to it? I remember there being sth like 'collect them in a particular order one set per reset' or sth

[spring bolt]

yeah it's in the pin

this one

[hybrid schooner]

Oh, thank you kindly. My bad for not checking them before asking

[rose cosmos]

What’s san diego’s role supposed to be btw

[spring bolt]

aa carry, damage dealer (smooth, not burst), good asw, quilified off tank

[pine crystal]

Is this a bug or does this gear not have the option to convert?

[spring bolt]

collab aug does not have random stat you can enhance iirc

[pine crystal]

Ahhh I see, didn't know

[sweet delta]

In the EN client it's called "Recurring"

Wrong reply

[white agate]

is there a way to make opsi autobattle start immediately also in the port or is it always to manual autobattle there?

[rose cosmos]

Man this costs way too much oil

[crimson glacier]

hard mode costs basically no oil at all after you clear

[rose cosmos]

Yes but I’m farming for the chip

[crimson glacier]

farming in hard mode? what

[rose cosmos]

For the 3*? What do you think it look like

[crimson glacier]

oh i wouldnt call that farming

[dreamy blade]

uhh so am I not supposed to use gems for this or what

[soft dagger]

turn autosearch on is enough for port battle, explorables and hidden zones need a logger

[coarse heron]

No you're supposed to buy that because it's cheaper than buying 6 slots for 1st floor

[undone plover]

You should
It is worth if u are mildly active on the game

The disclaimer just mean u dont get xp from those slots but they still give morale which is more important

[white agate]

yep, but thing is autosearch goes on automatically out of port so for all other zones, but the problem is for port, there i need to manually tap autosearch

[dreamy blade]

Oh i see, weird that it just says for decoration only

[soft dagger]

there's no such thing as to automatically turn on/off autosearch afaik, so there's that

[sleek spade]

do I even need FuMo?

[crimson glacier]

no

[tough wadi]

Useful

[sleek spade]

mmm I see

[stuck dew]

Does Amagi CV's skill also work with Akagichan or Muse?

[crimson glacier]

id assume it does but idk

[devout storm]

Yes akagi muse faction sakura empire get buff from nagato and shinano too

[plain saffron]

Iirc all variation works because use tags

[faint jacinth]

oh ye guys, how is uvh? me clueless

[soft dagger]

including kaga BB?

[stuck dew]

Yeah I just tested. It works with Akagichan, Akagi Muse and Kaga BB.

[soft dagger]

thanks for testing

[blissful hamlet]

She's decent if you don't have other UR BB

[faint jacinth]

i see

[frank pulsar]

good if you can properly utlise her fast loading skill, but still worse than most of the other ur bb

[hollow gust]

Never used it before

[crimson glacier]

what gun even is that

[frank pulsar]

afaik its not a relevant gun, ive never seen it recommended over traditional ca guns like cheshire gun or the rainbow ones

[crimson glacier]

napoli gun?

[shell willow]

napoli's gun

[crimson glacier]

seems to be shit

[frank pulsar]

i confused that with kear gun

[crimson glacier]

yeah i thought it was BB gun too from the pic

[spring bolt]

it has better dps agains heavy, slightly worse dps against med, but much lower rof
proto 3x240 is like a direct upgrade to it
in other words: just use rainbow guns

[frank pulsar]

better dps than what on heavy
cheshire gun?

[spring bolt]

roon gun. sorry forgot to mention that cuz he posted roon gun as comparison

[frank pulsar]

oh okay

[rose cosmos]

Staag or aa mount?

Also why is wyvern better than spearfish?

[storm heron]

no don't craft them, electronics diff, your main source should be the research for those aa guns

unless you want the sexys for some reason

[frank pulsar]

its not, wyvern is just much better cost to performance ratio

[rose cosmos]

I mean it basically has multiple hoops to get to wyverns no?

[frank pulsar]

wyvern uses the 9 of the regular rainbow plane prints, spearfish uses 9 of the rainbow ordnance reports instead, which is much more difficult to farm

[rose cosmos]

So should I craft the firebrand?

[frank pulsar]

the electronic cost is not that bad if youre careful with how you spend them and if you actively farm opsi

[frank pulsar]

ye, either that or you buy it with core(only if you finished buying high prio stuff already)

[spring bolt]

the auto interception from wyvern is the main selling point.
currently, in all hard contents, you would benefit more from the extra aa from wyvern than the extra damage from spearfish

[frank pulsar]

the extra dmg from spearfish is better than wyverns intercept though in w15 at the very least
(one could argue its better elsewhere as well due to higher rof, but enemies die regardless outside of w15 so its whatever)

[spring bolt]

im not aware of that. any test result i can see?

[storm heron]

yeah last time I checked spearfish makes main fleet takes more damage than wyvern in w15

[whole crypt]

I think the main concern would be clear times if the extra damage is not fatal, unless wyvern makes enough difference to hold concealment

the rockets do help pick off mobs that stick to the edges and get missed by torps but bombs also work similarly

[cobalt rapids]

test results show the opposite

[spring bolt]

any data you can share?

[whole crypt]

I've never gotten around to testing it myself, was rice that brought it up first and a handful of folks here had similar experience

[cobalt rapids]

ye, lemme find sushis vid, he did a bunch of tests of spear vs wyvern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvY2NK-TwOU in the spearfish section

[whole crypt]

is that the weird frankish torps

[cobalt rapids]

the anti light torps ye

[plain saffron]

Where can i get the ur version of the new torp

[cobalt rapids]

same place u find the golden spearfish

[shell willow]

[whole crypt]

spearfish aside I was just wondering what he was cooking with the torps

[cobalt rapids]

as per vid the best torps anti light

[whole crypt]

I guess if you were picking torps against Temperance or something

hm 15-4 lethal... can't reproduce that test then

closest I have is 15-3 lethal

[storm heron]

spearfish's rocket is invisible?

[cobalt rapids]

on skins

[whole crypt]

probably because plane skins also have their own torp skins for TBs, but no rocket skins attached

do rocket fighters do the same thing with skins?

[storm heron]

also did nobody +13 wyverns?

[cobalt rapids]

idr

[whole crypt]

someone definitely did but it's just not usually recommended because of the costs vs actual usage

[cobalt rapids]

pretty sure u can find alot of ppl with +13 wyverns in #pvp

[storm heron]

wait they use wyverns? lol I thought CV dead long ago

[cobalt rapids]

yes relics of the past

[whole crypt]

probably +13 from back when CVs were the thing

for PvE wyverns are pretty low priority on the +13 list for planes

[rose cosmos]

Technically you should only build for like 3 fleets top right?

[spring bolt]

i delayed my 4th +13 tenrai and got 2 wyvern to +13

[storm heron]

yeah i realized wyvern use case is not that much now that w15 is not that hard

[spring bolt]

it depends. if your dock is not strong enough, 4th fleet is needed for opsi
and in reality you just need to change fleets frequently so you are probably building fleets every once a while

[whole crypt]

not so much of how hard 15 is, but you're not getting a lot of mileage on a wyvern for the 18%

[boreal wagon]

does not look like it - they work fine

[rose cosmos]

Technically the pr vouchers can only net you enough data packs for like 10 rainbow weapon prints right

[storm heron]

like people cleared 15-4 lethal with full IB, some even do it with 6 ships

[whole crypt]

wyvern torps tend to be overkill and you probably won't find the 18% more AA on one specific plane to be the deciding factor in fending off planes

costs considered you're basically always recommended to enhance planes you'll take to a boss fight first

and particularly gold ones over rainbow ones for volume

[south sequoia]

Huh, people managed to full kms lethal 15-4?

I thought it was impossible

I don't think we even had any new kms releases in between w15 release and now for kms that changes their aa game

[hollow gust]

Also I doubt anyone full fleeted ironblood w15-4 clear , esdeath hasn't gotten past 15-3 as far as I know

[cobalt rapids]

sushi did

[hollow gust]

Who?

[cobalt rapids]

esdeath retired

[cobalt rapids]

zStigma

[south sequoia]

Suchi?

Suchi did 15-4 lethal with full kms?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[south sequoia]

wow

Must've went insane

[cobalt rapids]

z1 squad

[storm heron]

level 120

[hollow gust]

As far as I know he only reached 15-3

[cobalt rapids]

he did 15-4 2 days ago

#media-content message

[spring bolt]

then we should use rocket fighters over flapjack i guess
AA adds up, before we reach the max AA volume i think it's a bad idea to trade it for surface damage, and afaik wyvern torps can't overkill high threat targets, only trash mobs
anyway, i'll see if i get the chance to test them, been occupied with texas driver license stuffs so i will be busy irl for a while

[soft dagger]

Impressive
~~now turn off clearing mode ~~ jk

[whole crypt]

that was specifically referring to +13ing a Wyvern, not Wyvern vs Spearfish

I'm actually kind of on the fence for ch15 on those 2, but I'm not doing 15 anymore so it's kind of moot for me

[spring bolt]

i do have wyverns at +10 and +13 to compare the results
but my 15-4 is on safe as i farmed Huston 2
and i do want to spend all my oil on bringing all my ships with tech points to 120, only 65 vanguards left

[whole crypt]

I could do some testing in 15-3 but stig's already done his, I don't find it super important to actually bother
moreover we don't recommend spearfish plainly based on cost anyway, which basically covers the question whenever someone is asking which to craft

I know some folks intentionally farmed Houston II off the first 2 boss nodes to avoid losing lethal

if you're that intent for keeping lethal for testing then I guess... I didn't bother personally

[spring bolt]

too late for me anyway
back to c1 farming

[whole crypt]

well I did keep 15-3 lethal but it's just not the same kick as 15-4

[undone plover]

Can all the other major factions do 15 already?
Why is KMS always mentioned

[hollow gust]

[hollow gust]

Cause they are the worst major faction

Also they have the most outspoken fan base

[whole crypt]

they lack top AA ships, healers and carriers which kind if a PITA for ch15

[forest palm]

there's also someone in this channel that actively uses KMS fleet, and tries to clear all campaign with them

[plain saffron]

ouh wow JP site have new UI, for patch notes

new event right after the rerun

[hollow gust]

Pic or fake

[forest palm]

go read
https://azurlane.jp/news/653

[whole crypt]

ooh fancy

just slightly easier to read now

[storm heron]

it takes longer to load

[forest palm]

yes, but it's less offesnive to read

[storm heron]

btw are we close to the jp anniversary?

[tame jungle]

lmao

[whole crypt]

we're just past it

[forest palm]

[whole crypt]

SP event after aquilifer rerun, probably the new tempesta then

new skins, more unique augs... the usual I guess

[storm heron]

oh... Amagi cv is the anniv

what about tw/kr anniv

[hollow gust]

[whole crypt]

those were never relevant... maybe at some point if they're done catching up but I doubt we have the calendar space for that

[boreal wagon]

i love how we talked about rockets going invisible today and they are now fixing that apparently

[whole crypt]

inconceivable

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

So can someone summarize the update?

[whole crypt]

aquilifer rerun
tower archive
new SP event next update

[storm heron]

I can't read

[blazing shale]

That's been a thing for some time now

[storm heron]

ok, so rome event, uvh perma, and new event

[boreal wagon]

i am well aware of that i was just saying we happened to mention it today and the update fixes it next maint was just about the coincidence of the situation

[blazing shale]

Yeah ik, I was also just saying

[elfin hollow]

i have a question about the addition of Ulrich von Hutten to permanent cunstoruction, I saw the twitter anouncment. It says next maintanance, so next thursday right?

[atomic abyss]

Should be this Thursday

[elfin hollow]

thanks!! Will she be acailable along side the Ur exchange from the standard banner pity? With New Jersey and so on

[elfin hollow]

ok thank you

[left cedar]

Yo, anyone have a gud and stable 15-4 autofarm fleet ?
friends asking and i have no fucking experience with auto W15, since i'm lazing and slaking with Hou2 farm

[opaque gate]

barracudo or breguet?

or suisei or btd-1 destroyer?

[left cedar]

idk the contest, but Breguet it will be better and i'm suposing its Br.810
BTD1 is trash
suisei if we are talking about DB is also trash
helldiver all the way, yeah purple

[opaque gate]

ok, so, it is a divebomber/torp slot for amagi cv... ill use breguet over helldiver?

it will now be sea hornet + breguet + breguet

[left cedar]

Amagi its a bosser, so none probally
but if u are lvling her, both it will be similar

[zenith heron]

Is Nyakhimov sadly cope material like what happened to Kronk or is there any significance that she has other uses that Yorktown 2 / Hakuryuu / Amagi and Shinano have? aside for the slow

[left cedar]

she have a high damage, in a really forced ocasions she can work as Impla/AvP and root but not recomended, but far as i know, i dint see any claiming she is a top notch one like Amagi is or Haky ...

[zenith heron]

Then I guess she is wasted potential I guess than some who had her first (not saying she is weak, but still not metting top standards)

[wind hazel]

not many have her at dev30 so not many opinions are heard yet

more than anything, nothing requires more than what we have currently

[whole crypt]

fairly sure she's being touted for anti medium paired with Soyuz

[zenith heron]

The only content creator I followed right now is Quyet, but I guess said player also has his opinion considering he had some experiments but is still not sure when player has concrete proof that it can beat the well known Shinano Comp, especially when Amagi CV just dropped,

Only good with Soyuz is what I have heard bcs for 100% stacked slow but unsure what they'll use... Hakuryuu? Since Amagi now fits on the Most Popular CV Fleet now

[whole crypt]

quyet is 🚮

[left cedar]

yo nnt, u know a autoable and stable 15-4 fleet ?

[storm heron]

I heard golden hind is good for autoclear

[left cedar]

W15, a ship with shit AA and 0 AA capabilitys ?
that sound a trully dumb thing

[whole crypt]

isn't /w15 enough

[left cedar]

i totally forgot about that, ignore me

[crimson glacier]

what is golden hind supposed to be good at?

[whole crypt]

being a topic in #al-general

[storm heron]

The +1 ammo

vestal meta is also good

[crimson glacier]

sounds like cope to me

[storm heron]

not good, the better word is consistent

[crimson glacier]

consistently bad if not good?

[storm heron]

ikr, even I don't believe it when I see Jimmy

[left cedar]

well, if u constantly fail, its a stable, isnt ?

[late flame]

task failed successfully

[storm heron]

https://youtu.be/jatSdscA_ZY?si=rxatLX3SxF18FSCK

[crimson glacier]

im not going to click on some youtube video

especially when its from you

[late flame]

it screams clickbait lul

[storm heron]

Keep the hate 😄

[crimson glacier]

i really feel like you are just some failed attempt at getting banned from gph help, and then you just kept on going after it

[storm heron]

I'm just suggesting something

[sharp socket]

[left cedar]

i trully like Golden, but ... the best i will do its say she is quite interseting for W14 ... but far from be top notch ... but in W15 she seens a true shit

[whole crypt]

I don't see why I need to use a 0AA ship for ch15 consistency even if she works, we have enough working comps without her

[late flame]

i was hoping that the golden hind = drake which is at least somewhat believable lol

tempestra GH is suicide period

[storm heron]

I see

I thought people would agree with Jimmy's two videos about golden hind and vestal meta, but alright then, again I'm just suggesting

[crimson glacier]

you have the history of saying the stupidest shit

[whole crypt]

agree with him on what, that you can build a fleet around not letting GH die in 15-4?

[crimson glacier]

its hard to agree with anything you say unless its some really obvious stuff

[storm heron]

yeah it's alright

[sharp socket]

torva why personal attacks in gph

[tame jungle]

Do you even know why you’re suggesting her or are you just parroting

[ember totem]

[left cedar]

i cant see GH as Gold Hindy... its Game house or a dota player for me

[whole crypt]

I can see +1 ammo being nice but we're already done even without the +1 ammo

[storm heron]

The latter, the best I know is because esdeath was trying to find a consistent stable, so I recommend a stable because just maybe the additional ammo can sustain the damage or something

[wind hazel]

most of the time mob fleet doesn't have issue in 15-4 safe, with or without golden hind. it's an interesting idea to have full mob fight without AoA, but it's such an unnecessary thing to do in the grand scheme of thing

[crimson glacier]

you get stronger for 1 fight at the cost of every other fight

[sharp socket]

if the lethal auto works, the safe auto will likely work aswell

[storm heron]

so why did Esdeath ask when Esdeath can just use the strongest ships

[whole crypt]

because he forgot /w15 exists

[sharp socket]

so just use what you used for 15-4 lethal auto and it should be fine

[whole crypt]

if you ask me now I can tell you I don't really remember what I used for 15-4 either and what I'll put together now will probably be totally different from what I used a year ago

[wind hazel]

you know, it's funny because jimmy said in the video, "if you give this to someone without any context, people will think you're trolling them". ironic

[cobalt rapids]

jimmy also said akashi = percy in w15

[storm heron]

iirc akashi a bit lower or something

[late flame]

akashit isnt worth using period

[storm heron]

yea sometime I wonder whether most of Jimmy's strat actually work or just something he can do

[sharp socket]

cv with planes with bombs and better intercept over AA platform with bad heals

[whole crypt]

jimmy has some really weird takes that he works out through testing but wouldn't really be recommended in most cases

GH is one of those

[ember totem]

so we are coming full circle from the percy = AR from years ago?

[inland shoal]

Without ... AoA?

[wind hazel]

sorry OOA

[inland shoal]

Ah that makes a lot more sense

[wind hazel]

nerd

[whole crypt]

to be fair ammo does affect plane AA so there is some considerable effect there even if you carried enough surface damage

[left cedar]

isnt for me, its for a friend ... i'm slacking about Hou2 farm for 2y ?

[wary timber]

how good is Isuzu as an AA ship

[left cedar]

strong AA, shit everyway else <- performance only btw

[crimson glacier]

just a collection trophy

[whole crypt]

I used Isuzu for ch13 but that was like 5-6 years ago

[crimson glacier]

and w13 has been powercrept to nothingness

[cobalt rapids]

but w15 released only last year

[whole crypt]

esdeath time traveller confirmed

[left cedar]

thats why i put the ? there, cuz i dont remember when it release exactly

[wary timber]

is she good at W12 tho

[barren tapir]

anything works in w12 more or less

[crimson glacier]

no, but w12 is easy so you dont need good ships unless lethal

[wind hazel]

you can use better ship than isuzu for w12

[wary timber]

i just need my vanguard to swat those annoying planes that keep slipping past

[reef flume]

When w16

[crimson glacier]

there are better ships like juneau

[barren tapir]

she has good AA but doesnt have long term value, so she's relegated to waifu status

[crimson glacier]

and ofc sandy but i assume you knew about her already

[wary timber]

im already using AA ships like Sandy. i just want to shoot planes down better

[left cedar]

u can go with non retrofited Sandy with her augment and get a stronger AA ship with a gud surface dmg ...

[barren tapir]

you shouldnt be having any AA issue with sandy in w12 of all places

[late flame]

heck even cheshire would do the job

[barren tapir]

don't forget that cvs with decent fighters also contribute a lot to AA

[wary timber]

lv105 Sandy , lv110 Helena and lv100 Anchorage was what i was using

[crimson glacier]

i mean those are really low level

and helena doesnt have any AA anyway

[left cedar]

for lethal W12, yeah, low

[crimson glacier]

or are you saying thats all on one fleet and it doesnt work?

[left cedar]

Helena dosnt have anything aside her debuff

[barren tapir]

it's manageable but you'd find it easier with higher levels

[late flame]

just do all cv backline

[crimson glacier]

coz if you have problems even when sandy and cheshire are together, then you have massive issues with your fleet if AA still is a problem

[late flame]

i'd say gear issue, if not levels

[wary timber]

i could swap Helena out for Helana Meta cuz apparently with how i built Helena Meta she can swat planes

[crimson glacier]

thats false

[barren tapir]

could very well be gear issue

[crimson glacier]

there is literally no content in the game where sandy+cheshire isnt enough for frontline

[wary timber]

i dont have a Cheshire yet

[crimson glacier]

so yeah its gear or backline issue

[barren tapir]

i'd suggest making a thread and posting your fleets, dock, and equipment so ppl can better figure out your issue

[crimson glacier]

wait im seeing anchor as cheshire 💀 🤳

anyway sandy alone is more than enough for w12

sandy is op alone even in w13

[wary timber]

its more of i want a PERFECT AA screen

[barren tapir]

Why

[rapid grail]

uvh bad

[barren tapir]

if your backline consistently survives then you have enough AA and can put more focus into surface damage

[late flame]

perfect means rainbow gear amirite

[wary timber]

i have a full CV backline with the best planes u can ask for. just wanna see how much more i can go for AA

[rapid grail]

Fact

[crimson glacier]

What are the best planes

[barren tapir]

what is the purpose of this? are you having trouble with world 12 or just want to kill every single plane lol

[wind hazel]

plane killed his family's cat

[wary timber]

i just want to shoot down all the planes lol

[crimson glacier]

Sandy should do that alone

[wary timber]

i cleared 12-4 recently with Anchorage barely surviving so im mad

[barren tapir]

add more levels then, problem solved

[crimson glacier]

Planes arent doing dmg to your anchor

[barren tapir]

i also don't see how more AA would help anchorage (beyond her own AA stat if she's taking a lot of damage from plane ordnance?)

pretty sure the main issue is gonna be torps, or at least it has been for me @.@

[wary timber]

torps are not a problem. i manual the damn game

[late flame]

wow manual in w12

[crimson glacier]

Doesn't matter if you manual, planes arent killing your anchor

[wary timber]

its those planes with the fireball bombs

[wind hazel]

can i see your fleet and gear?

[late flame]

totally dying to see *what his definition of best planes /s

[rapid grail]

best plane = rainbow. Nuff said

[wary timber]

my backline CVs all have Flapjacks and 2 of them are also Wyvern equipped.

[left cedar]

i totally cant see a VG ship dying in W12 ... if u manuel and keep getting hammered till dead, ok ... but otherwise ... the fleet have to be true shitty to that happen

[late flame]

its been pointed out that planes isnt the problem here tbh

[inland shoal]

Nah my 75 Z43 died even in middle until I noticed I'd forgotten to equip her

[wind hazel]

so bad

[late flame]

lv75 in a lv110 world corpse dragging ftw yay

[barren tapir]

if you manual and anchorage of all ships is almost dying in world 12 you must suck at manual (no offense but...)

for 11-4 i decided to manual when auto almost killed my portkai and ended on like 90% health, lol

[wary timber]

my anchorage is the lowest level ship of all + main tank position

[late flame]

big brain move

[crimson glacier]

position doesnt even matter for plane dmg does it

[left cedar]

also that about UR Gear = better is kinda ... wrong, one example of it is LA-9 ... LA-9 is rainbow, but isnt the best for AA focused content ...
also remember that we got some exceptional shits like Z-Flag

[inland shoal]

I mean what level is your Anchor? Also fully deved?

[crimson glacier]

105 was it

[barren tapir]

you can manual to avoid those...what i'm wondering is how you have issue in world 12 with good planes like that

[crimson glacier]

oh just 100

[inland shoal]

Ah lvl 100 yeah still shouldn't die

[crimson glacier]

and adding more AA wouldnt do anything

[wary timber]

level 105. i last used her at dev... 28 iirc. shes dev30 and at stage 2 of FS now

was either dev 26 or 28 then

[barren tapir]

even on lethal 105 dev 25+ anchor really should do fine, she's that bulky

[crimson glacier]

so are you asking help for w12 based on your fleet that you had like weeks ago and you havent even tested it now?

[wary timber]

i probably forgot to spam her torps for smoke

[tame jungle]

Bruh

[barren tapir]

the only thing i can think of is you really messed up her gear or something

[late flame]

damn wish i could refund my past 15 mins

[barren tapir]

manuals
does worse than auto

nah that's all skill issue my man i'm sorry to say

[rapid grail]

or he just shit at manual, how could you die to the planes???

[left cedar]

dude, W12 have almost 0 VG pressure ...

[wary timber]

This is her gear. I stole most of these off Roon

[left cedar]

i trully cant see a Ancho dying there

[crimson glacier]

12-4 boss does decent vg dmg

[late flame]

yup gear issue

[crimson glacier]

is your AA range like 0

[left cedar]

everything seens gud enough to not get killed

[barren tapir]

on manual that should be plenty

[crimson glacier]

yeah i guess AA range doesnt really matter on manual true

[barren tapir]

good manual player can avoid like 80%+ vg pressure in most encounters so idk

[late flame]

he'll git gud

[barren tapir]

and we're talking world 12...it'd be more understandable 13-15 but man. manual world 12 and your tank almost dies with decent enough gear is really questionable

[inland shoal]

Oh is 12-4 boss the issue? Aren't those blue bullets one of the most damaging things there? Honestly in 12-4 boss it's possible to die if your dps is just trash

[late flame]

*likely skill issue at manual

[crimson glacier]

idk if the boss is the issue but its real hard to get info out of this guy

[wary timber]

i did another run. she survives with plenty of HP left this time lol

[barren tapir]

ok glad to know we wasted a bunch of time, particularly with the AA/planes tangent but at least the 'problem' is solved i guess

[sharp socket]

if you dont keep pressing buttons manual is worse than auto

[tender python]

Should I be doing all the daily missions for opsi even if some give subpar rewards?

[crimson glacier]

id do them

[rapid grail]

yes because more missions will come that give good rewards

[wary timber]

im also timing 2 CVs and a CVL at the same time

[rapid grail]

trivial AP usage for potentially good rewards

[tender python]

Do I need to do the missions for the better ones to appear?

[eternal basalt]

They ruin spots for good missions

[rapid grail]

yes because if you let them stack, no new missions will come to you

[tender python]

Should I be doing all the hidden coordinates as well? The rewards don't seem that great as well?

[crimson glacier]

id do those too

[left cedar]

Hiddens still better than regular safe maps

[eternal basalt]

3 atleast gives 1 gold part, more higher up

[wary timber]

whats that command to show the research stuff again

[tame jungle]

Wasn’t it just /research

[late flame]

only one way to find out

[tame jungle]

He hasn’t reported back yet he’s MIA

[wary timber]

got it. lol

[late flame]

nah he got it in #bot-spam

[tame jungle]

He’s alive

[sterile fox]

Hi everybody.
What's a good lineup to do Nagato meta in 1 try?

[zenith heron]

Does the wiki mention the armor types of Sirens / Arbiters? Or do we just base them by their own ship class?

[tame jungle]

you can do /sirenstats in #bot-spam for that

[shell willow]

@sterile fox

[zenith heron]

Thanks bcs I faced Equilibrium for my first Abyssal Boss, not knowing that she is a DD so she is light armored, but fought her using AP BB fleet

[plain saffron]

arbiter and abyssal does

[sterile fox]

Thanks!!?

[viral rover]

I still have this from a few weeks back dunno who to choose
(Already have Jeanne d' Arc)

[wary timber]

anything to note about w13

[dusk maple]

expect twice as much planes in 13-1 than 12-4, so use good AA and CVs with good fighters. Enemy command ships & repair ships are dangerous. There's big difficulty jump from 13-2 to 13-3.

[chrome jackal]

is there any kind of good guide to understand gears, so id know who to give what?

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /equipment

[soft dagger]

rossi +1 FP

[keen sable]

#gameplay-help message

if you care about collection rate do nothing

[cursive lark]

Yeah it's better to keep the letter just in case you missed one of the ships, especially if you have enough tech points and don't need mediocre ships from it

[crisp tree]

Who 2 replace with shimakaze? Or can I just swap out any of the three just fine

[crimson glacier]

I wouldn't use Shima at all

I doubt you have the bulins

[keen sable]

no one use better ships

[crisp tree]

Oh is she just good at max lb?

[crimson glacier]

All ships are like that

[keen sable]

all ships are

[crimson glacier]

And Shima is just low value for bulins compared to many other URs

[crisp tree]

Oh alright, Just started a few days ago so I don't rlly know whose good or not

Maybe I should watch a guide

[soft dagger]

read, don't watch

[keen sable]

penny, unicorn, lusty, portland, helena, z23 are really good. Anyone you don't have, buy them from Guild Shop.

[crisp tree]

Alright, thanks for the tips

[cursive lark]

Might want to give this a read instead https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[crisp tree]

Aight, will do

[daring basalt]

What's the best chapter to farm PR ship exp?

[soft dagger]

12-1

[daring basalt]

How much exp does it give?

[cursive lark]

One of the pins have the list of exp and gold gain from chapters

[soft dagger]

not sure about exact numbers it gives, but it is slightly more than 12-4

[tender python]

Is it worth it to use cubes for research?

[tame jungle]

if you got hella cubes maybe

[tender python]

How much is hella

[tame jungle]

generally if you have <800 don't bother with hardcore cubing

[tender python]

[frank pulsar]

mb

but im curious on whether the results would change if suchi tested with a higher aa vanguard

[muted ember]

is it worth it to do the War Archive stage that gives washing machines?

[frank pulsar]

no

[sharp socket]

lots of planes

[muted ember]

another question,is it worth it to grind quad mag torps from divergent chessboard

[jaunty glade]

whats a safe amount of cubes to have remaining after this current banner? I'm currently at 250 - am I safe to use them all?

to get one of each unit**

[muted ember]

save for an event UR

[jaunty glade]

how much should I save?

[muted ember]

which you need 400 to get hard pity

[jaunty glade]

don't we have a while until the next event UR?

[muted ember]

atleast November

[sharp socket]

no

just open tech boxes, or make them from gearlab

[jaunty glade]

really eh... so I should not bother with this banner and save to 400?

[muted ember]

it's Musashi from what I've heard

[south sequoia]

does nakhimovs root activate with just tashkents fairy?

[muted ember]

man I really need to do OpSi so I can do gearlab stuff

[sharp socket]

gearlab and opsi is where you get 80% of good gear from so its good to do it

[boreal wagon]

it should afaik

[muted ember]

kinda focusing on atleast clearing 12-4

[sharp socket]

better to start it as early as you can because the timegate for mats is heavy in there

[muted ember]

I mean I can definitely survive there

cause I got a good amount of lvl 100+ ships

[keen sable]

12+

[keen sable]

you get free pulls...

[jaunty glade]

do you mean doing 1x a day for the daily?

[half plover]

if I plan to use shiranui how impactful is her augment?

[sharp socket]

about as impactful as a blue DD can do

[keen sable]

@crisp tree actually that's amagi-chan. probably just use her instead of penny

[keen sable]

no as in you get 30+ free pulls. so average 4 a day.

[sterile fox]

Might as well, the extra utility/damage is always welcome

[muted ember]

explain this for me pls

[sharp socket]

you get ticket to pull cause rerun

[keen sable]

you get build tickets. build tickets make ship.

[muted ember]

I see

[half plover]

ty

[keen sable]

not very impactful

[half plover]

ships to 125

[lofty zodiac]

My opsi bb fleet is garbage vs the light armor arbi...
90% of the bullet miss the target lol

What are the accessible option for a slow/stop?

[storm heron]

bz or eldridge

duke of york used to be good but idk about now

[half plover]

sushis budget BB teams for challenge mode have york so if u plan to use her she might become useful again

[storm heron]

york?

[half plover]

duke of york sry

I forgot there are other ships with that name

[storm heron]

haha

[sharp socket]

what does hwan jah’s planes do

she can only use these reconnaisance planes and they look pretty bad

[hollow gust]

they do nothing, she is like one of the lowest damage ships ingame

[sharp socket]

welp this will be interesting for tech farming

[tired condor]

is amagi cv poo poo

[sharp socket]

lol no

[hollow gust]

why would a UR ever be bad

[tired condor]

gotta have some urs worse than others

how would she compare to haku

[hollow gust]

even if shes a worse UR how would she be shit

[storm heron]

she slaps haku

[hollow gust]

and no she replaces haku in most stuff

[storm heron]

does Amagi make haku not worth the arrays?

[hollow gust]

...level ur UR CVs

[turbid dawn]

Just about to level Halford, looking at and reading her skills I'm presuming using a Seaplane over AA gun is just a bad idea as it makes her more of a tank and seaplanes just suck ass?

[crimson glacier]

AA guns also suck ass so idk why you wouldnt use them

[hollow gust]

use her special seaplane, and shes just mid

[turbid dawn]

What special seaplane does she have?

[crimson glacier]

the pr7 one

[storm heron]

pr7 bearcat

[hollow gust]

use the one she came with

[turbid dawn]

This thing?

[stark quiver]

haku still worth cuz shes still very good

[crimson glacier]

anyway i dont really see any reason to use halford without plane

[hollow gust]

theres no reason to use her with plane

[storm heron]

gimmick dd without gimmick

[turbid dawn]

I just wanna level her up, she doesn't seem good tbh

[hollow gust]

shes not

[storm heron]

does she add 1 airstrike? or she just automatically launch just like ddg missiles?

[tired condor]

i wanna get felix for fun, is she any good

[hollow gust]

shes an above average SR DD

[storm heron]

good but better option exist tm yknow what, I don't even have her. I won't talk

[tired condor]

who are the good dds in the shipyard

[hollow gust]

none

[tired condor]

gg

[hollow gust]

Yuudachi Laffey DDGs, thats all u need

[storm heron]

was kita like good once?

[knotty dome]

kazagumo is good

[crimson glacier]

kita was never that amazing imo

[storm heron]

eldridge too

[turbid dawn]

Isn't Kawakaze still a good DPS?

[storm heron]

mogador too

[tired condor]

someone told me not to use any mats in getting the yuudachi retrofit item

[crimson glacier]

kawa is fine but id never use her over DDG

[hollow gust]

elridge is niche asf and 95% of the playerbase wont use her niche

[soft raft]

More like it's low prio
Cuz there's no other way to get it than to buy from protocore shop

[storm heron]

yeah right more people probably use yuudachi, I agree with you

[hollow gust]

you should use neither

[crimson glacier]

more ppl will use DDGs

[hollow gust]

DDg are much much cheaper and give more damage output

and since yatsen is so busted, ddgs are always good

[soft raft]

^
I mostly did Yuudachi and Eldridge retros for collection

[remote quarry]

I was only coonsidering Eldridge retro for PvP

[soft raft]

Though I have used Yuudachi a few times as hard mode stat padding

[hollow gust]

the best thing you can do is invest the resources into a yatsen and ddg, instead of one of the shinny gimmicks

[storm heron]

harbin basically has 2 simultaneously torpedo mounts right?

[tired condor]

wait yatsen is good?

[remote quarry]

Very good when ran with An Shen DDGs

[hollow gust]

yatsen was literally one of the most consistent comps for w15 before guam and laffey

[storm heron]

yatsen is very tanky

[soft raft]

She's a lot more flexible after retro
IE she's no longer restricted to the Hai siblings to get her tankiness

[remote quarry]

I just retro'd her, Chang Chun, and An Shen, and boosted them to level 100, and they farm 12-4 with 0 issues at that level (just farming there for XP)

[soft raft]

12-4 is frankly a pretty low bar

[tired condor]

i put random lvl 70 ships in 12-4

[remote quarry]

At level 100? I'd say its an adqeuate test

[storm heron]

kinda okay for level 100

[crimson glacier]

12-4 on safe is kinda just nothing

[hollow gust]

lvl100 garbage ships with no skill level , or enhancement do 12-4 with no trouble

[crimson glacier]

gear just carriers through it without problems unless you use some real bad fleets

[remote quarry]

Well, to be fair I just came back from a 2 year break. 12-4 used to be a decent litmus test. 14 and 15 had not come out when I took my break

[crimson glacier]

no offense but w12 has been a joke farming place for much longer than 2 years

[storm heron]

ehhh hard is kinda relative, bad ships could do with good gears, no one know how bad a ship is, for example my mikasa sunk even though she is 115, well bad fleet can indeed clear until someday they don't and sink

[hollow gust]

thats skill issue

[storm heron]

must've been bad ships

[sterile fox]

Sushi's?

[hollow gust]

@ Sushigummy

[sterile fox]

Yes

[storm heron]

okay what if, I cook harbin with the reverse mod iris torpedo

[soft raft]

The fuck

The non magnetic iris torps suck ass

[keen sable]

felix is fine

[tired condor]

i might just stick with only ca and cl

[storm heron]

greygoose this one

it's from @ Sushigummy

[turbid dawn]

Any way for Halford to stop dying? Full auto 12-4 and she keeps dying on the boss fight even tho boss fight is only 40s long even with the ammo debuff

[full musk]

Just got walloped in pvp by a ship that shoots lasers and spawns a dragon. What’s she called (Iron Blood)?

[inner delta]

you go to 12-1 instead

[turbid dawn]

But it's just her... everyone is still like 80% while I was watching =/

[storm heron]

is that nagato with mikasa gun?

[crimson glacier]

idk how you manage to get her killed with that fleet

[storm heron]

maybe bismarck zwei if you see a black hole

[turbid dawn]

I'm just letting auto do it's thing it seems like 2-3 torps from the boss just deletes her, every1 else is 80% hp by the end and halford dies, taking her morale so much lower

[inner delta]

i mean idk what else you can do since you already have 2 toolbox, and giving a +13 hp aux instead wont change much

[full musk]

Definitely her then thx

[storm heron]

you sure is she d25?

da halfod

[viscid swift]

she's literally 6 stars

anyway, she just can't take the punishment then, drop down to 12-1, fights were lasting about a minute and even at level 80ish she was surviving fine

[storm heron]

en image moment

[turbid dawn]

Yeahhh ig, once Amagi hits 125 there's no way this fleet is doing 12-4 as fast as it is so maybe for the best

[eager mulch]

use a boss fleet

[turbid dawn]

Ew, wasted exp

[eager mulch]

Less wasted xp than having a ship die

[viscid swift]

use a boss fleet full of ships that also need levels

[eager mulch]

I’d rather have a boss fleet do the last node than have a ship die and lose 10 morale

[viscid swift]

Like so

[wind hazel]

amagi-chan strong

[storm heron]

no wonder sunk halfod

how good is rodney meta?

[wind hazel]

pretty nice

[eager mulch]

how good is amagi-chan?

[wind hazel]

amagi tier

[eager mulch]

[storm heron]

32/0 affinity

[kind needle]

Better for ply? Or should I use 155kai?

[storm heron]

is that baygun?

[whole crypt]

guichen

[kind needle]

Still building my first plygun

[whole crypt]

it's better than seattle gun off the top of my head, go ahead

[keen sable]

guichen gun is second best. maybe even first best

[whole crypt]

well if I remember correctly it's the best gun after q152

[soft raft]

This month's arbiter is light right?

[nova crane]

do you get less exp if that stage is "safe"

[storm heron]

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

is there a way to get purp bb retro bps? or is it all rng?

[left cedar]

iirc guild shop have chance to appear, not sure but i think other sho also have a chance

outside of it, i think only HM, and its RNG if u are doing X-3

[storm heron]

welp that's unfortunate, got walled by one of the least cared resources

[left cedar]

it happens to begginers that tryhard ... 4y ago i start to face that as well ... some time after this will cease

[left cedar]

i remeber another one, secretary missions, if its a BB have some BB Retros as rewards ...

[gaunt bison]

I have a question about exp, because I've seen a lot of players say you should always 1:1 farm because of the 2x and 1.5x multipliers
but if you're planning an leveling a lot of ships at once isnt it just faster to level them all together?

[viscid swift]

1:1 farming is an utter waste in oil capped maps

[eager mulch]

I don’t think you can 1:1 with 6 ships in a fleet

[eternal basalt]

You still get the 2x and 1.5x with a full fleet... mostly outdated since oil caps got introduced

[gaunt bison]

ah alright thnx for the info, I'm trying to reach 900 eagle tech points so I can start researching halford which is why I'd like to level in bulk

[polar venture]

Is san Fran better than Brennus? I've already built up brennus

[keen sable]

no one you should be listening to says that in cost limit era

[left cedar]

even b4 Cost Limit, if u have a full fleet to lvl, even if 1:1 have a more focused XP it will be in one ship, if u wanna something fast full is the way

but nowadays in Oil Cap age, no fucking reason to u even dream about 1:1 if the thing is lvling ships

[eternal basalt]

Before costlimit I would 3:1 or 1:3 for PR farming... but now just 3:3

[left cedar]

Gold CAs that arent Ancho is pretty much a sub option or a huge shit, they arent gud at anything ... always have a other hull better than then in wut they do

some wierd rare exceptions can be made, like Michita in QE Fights ...

[vale spindle]

U can craft up from blue

You can craft blue --> purple but not purple --> gold

[left cedar]

i totally forgot about that

[thorn tartan]

what do i do with UR torp prints?

[tame jungle]

Make torps

[thorn tartan]

There is only 1 UR torp right?

[tame jungle]

There’s also the submarine torp

[thorn tartan]

that's an aux tho right?

i'll look into it

[edgy lantern]

do U. Guys farm ap on c1 zones

[eternal basalt]

No, but it is crap

[tame jungle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Submarine-mounted_Type_95_Kai_Pure_Oxygen_Torpedo#Type_0-0

It can do a lot of damage but just use bidders

[thorn tartan]

what did you do with your UR torp prints then....

[tame jungle]

Maybe like 1 or 2 rainbow quints

[fervent hearth]

i just use em for rainbow quints kek

[tame jungle]

It’s honestly fine to save as well for when something else comes out

Bc not like the rainbow quints are spectacular

[thorn tartan]

i'll save. gold quad is as good as quints. so they say. So no point.

[edgy lantern]

Hello is this real

[tame jungle]

Only if ur nolife opsi player

[thorn tartan]

i didn't know you could farm AP

[tame jungle]

Its turbo tedious but it’s a thing yeah

[edgy lantern]

strategic search is not enough ?? xD

[thorn tartan]

i barely have the patience to clear opsi each month

[tame jungle]

I mean it still requires you to keep paying attention and restarting when you encounter akashi right

[edgy lantern]

so it actually works?

[thorn tartan]

what would be average the net AP farming C1 for an hour?

[tame jungle]

There’s a couple ppl in here who do it iirc but i don’t remember who from the top of my head

[edgy lantern]

i know it also exp hack

[thorn tartan]

exp? you get almost no exp from opsi

[edgy lantern]

just keep ur ships over 120 morale. Opsi is literally xp hack

[thorn tartan]

so thro in the C team and let them level in C1?

Or the Z team

[edgy lantern]

idk do what ever u want
I always use my leveling fleet to farm and clear zones

[stark quiver]

Huh?

[thorn tartan]

i use my fast opsi clearning team

[edgy lantern]

if ure fine with wasting exp then go ahead

[thorn tartan]

well waste is subjective here

[stark quiver]

The xp gain is minimal so I don’t bother with it

[thorn tartan]

you could say you are wasting the life of your phone. or the life the the planet with the energy waste

[tame jungle]

[eager mulch]

wasting time you can spend looking at amagi-chan

[tame jungle]

the xp gain is minimal but it's not 0 and it's technically free

[stark quiver]

If I wanted xp I’d actually grind a stage

[tame jungle]

same since i also value my time

[eager mulch]

If I wanted xp I’d use xp book

because I value my time

[edgy lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/xp-gif-24436149

[stark quiver]

Avoid posting gifs

[tame jungle]

nice offtopic gif. now perish.

[eager mulch]

wtf is this

[strong tartan]

Don't Glitch XP, shrimple

[eager mulch]

How does one glitch xp? Asking for a friend (cooper)

[sharp pine]

If I'm making a 3 cv team with Yorktown II, is it better to use Enterprise and an Essex class with her, or two Essex class?

[eager mulch]

for what

[tame jungle]

campaign? opsi?

[eager mulch]

if I was making a 3 cv team with yt2, I would simply not use an essex class

[stark quiver]

Enterprise + yk2 + implac
Shrimple

[eager mulch]

[sharp pine]

Opsi I guess

[eager mulch]

.

my yt2 opsi fleet is enty, yt2, Kear

laffii, helena, north2

[sharp pine]

Is the Essex class buff not worth it?

[eager mulch]

what essex class buff

[sharp pine]

From her 'Eagles soar free' skill

[eager mulch]

the 10% damage buff is not enough to pull an essex class above a UR

the other parts are totally irrelevant

[sweet delta]

Enterprise is better than the SR Essex class, and kearsarge and implacable are usually better than a buffed enterprise

[eager mulch]

[left cedar]

just cope a for new Essex-class UR, cuz yes and problem solved

[fervent hearth]

u think thats cope lets wait for the first KMS CV UR

[crude loom]

What, Zeppelin Zwei?

[keen sable]

if you barely want to do ops you aren't going to succeed at C1. you need to pay attention A LOT. every akashi needs you to manual.

[fervent hearth]

I await the day

[wary timber]

is the Royal Fortune good

[soft raft]

not really outside of turning the submarine weekly raid into clown college

[wary timber]

oh yea she can submerge right

[cobalt rapids]

she cannot submerge

[soft raft]

she cant
so she's very prone to dying instantly in high difficulty content where subs matter

[left cedar]

she is like flying Dutch, but she cannot dive it again, at least not in that fight

[eager mulch]

she submerges when she reaches 0 hp and does nothing afterwards

[wary timber]

But she memes in the weekly submarine raid eh

[little tree]

Do subs help alot for arbiter ?

[stark quiver]

Rf boom

[stark quiver]

Depends how good they are

[little tree]

I got the 90% discount sale subs. So not helpful in my case

How good is wolfpack 120 for arbiter

[stark quiver]

Wolfpack gud, Wolfpack with shit gear bad

[left cedar]

SSs do something like 300k+ in Harbiter and its free

all 3, not each

[stark quiver]

Which is nice

[little tree]

I should starting investing in subs then

[white agate]

subs level 125 tho? not at level 120 else i suck, i am using +10 only equip maybe that is the case too

[left cedar]

they need gud gears, tech ... and goes on.. better tech, top notch gears and perfect cats = gud, start to lacking this things, dmg goes down

[sweet delta]

Subs can be called in four battles because you have four fleets for hard arbiter

[little tree]

Can I make a good fleet with what I have ?

[trim path]

for pity, is nj or shimakaze better?

[left cedar]

the best u got for now its 96, 47 and 410

[sweet delta]

Even if they only do 50k together per battle, that's 20% of harbiter HP for free

[sweet delta]

Ulrich

[stark quiver]

How much hp does harby have

[white agate]

wait, you were talking about arbiter hard or normal

[trim path]

ulrich?

[sweet delta]

Being added in 2 days

[left cedar]

Harbiter = Hard

[trim path]

oh, ill wait then. ty

[sweet delta]

They're all just for cross fleet though since they're useless without MLB and are very low priority for bulins

[cobalt rapids]

1-1.3mil on full adapts

[stark quiver]

Unfortunate, what bb fleet did you guys use for this month harby + gear?

[sweet delta]

I used Bisz Als Vang Helena Aurora KirovM

[left cedar]

the same i use at 2y

[sweet delta]

And failed to get 20s kill

[left cedar]

this month harb she melt my VG faster, and my FdG dint kill, but my Mob finish the job after, so whatever

[cobalt rapids]

i dont have enough adapts yet to fight arbi

[left cedar]

time to change neko for 🐌

[elfin hollow]

How does rising ranks in Exercise work?

[left cedar]

amount of points + certain rank = higher medal

[stark quiver]

Max cats and tech be like

[stark quiver]

What gear did u run for backline

[elfin hollow]

How do you get the highest amount of points per exercise? Fighting the strongest fleets?

[cobalt rapids]

merit is based on ur rank and victory/defeat

[stark quiver]

Thank
What’s that gun btw on bis

[sweet delta]

Fight the highest ranked enemy, which is the leftmost person if the list is updated

[cobalt rapids]

ladder pts are based on the enemy rank and ur rank

[left cedar]

Higher medal means more points per fight, to reach higher medals u need a certain amount of points that u get through winning, and in certain possitions u are granted (if u got the necessarys points) a higher rank

[elfin hollow]

I see

Thanks

[stark quiver]

nvm al doesnt work on my laptop and professor staring me down

[stoic tulip]

is hard 13 harder than world 15?

[stark quiver]

not rly
tho taihou is kinda a pain

[atomic abyss]

the opposite

13H is noticeably easier than 15

13H can be harder if you're reliant on subs ig

[stoic tulip]

do i need airspace supremacy though?

[atomic abyss]

never have

superiority has always been enough

[stoic tulip]

seems wild to have 4k+ AVI

[atomic abyss]

in the first place, this is 13H - there aint any suicide boats
you can run triple CV on mob easily

hell, you could run triple CV on boss too

[stoic tulip]

suicide boats not an issue?

[atomic abyss]

w12/13 never had suicide boats on normal, let alone hard

you could always run triple CV

[stoic tulip]

sweet! finally time to get 90 cores per run,

[atomic abyss]

the issue is the slot requirement if anything

one fleet is forced to have a BB (most likely the boss one)

[stoic tulip]

if only i had something to spend it on though

[stark quiver]

you could just farm 13-1h lol
its pretty ez

[broken chasm]

hi guys, I tried farming exp in 12-1 with this team but it cant beat the boss, any advice for lvling ships?

[atomic abyss]

use a 2nd fleet for the boss

so you can use shittier ships for mob and level more ships at once

[lone knoll]

How does meta ships skill upgradew works? you unlock each skill with books and then what?

[atomic abyss]

2 ways
you use meta skill books for their exp, or you complete certain objectives to gain the exp

[lone knoll]

Does it take 10x longer or what, i saw on wiki some xp values but does it take longer than normal ships?

[atomic abyss]

such as using them in battle, or winning an exercise with them

it does take longer without exp books

[lone knoll]

damn but its free skills at least

I will raise nagato meta she's prob better than sovetskaya

[atomic abyss]

well

which sovetskaya

[lone knoll]

blue haired one

wait

[atomic abyss]

yeah nagatoM is probably better
100% barrage proc after all

[lone knoll]

yeah im not feeling belorussiya nymore her barrage never procs

[atomic abyss]

it's belorussiya

[lone knoll]

And also i didnt raise her skills (seems like a waste of books on her)

[atomic abyss]

no one calls her sovetskaya since rossiya also has the same name

[lone knoll]

yeah my bad

[atomic abyss]

You upgrade the skills of ships you use

[lone knoll]

sorry....

[atomic abyss]

you wont run out of skill books unless you're using 4 skill slots at once

[lone knoll]

Im leveling skills every time I can and still it takes some time to max out every ship

amagicv took a while

do all UR's have 3 skills that you can level?

[atomic abyss]

all the event URs yes

and all the DRs save drake

[lone knoll]

okok so most of UR's then

[soft raft]

at least like feed them a single gold book first

[lone knoll]

Im using FdG at dev 20 and she outperforms belorussia already

[atomic abyss]

SL4, 7, 10 are the breaking points usually

if your fdg at 20 is outperforming belo despite missing an entire gun mount

[lone knoll]

is it really worth?

[atomic abyss]

you're doing something very very very wrong, beyond not levelling skills

[atomic abyss]

^

[atomic abyss]

^

[lone knoll]

damn maybe its palcebo

[atomic abyss]

1 gold book is alr level 4

[lone knoll]

ok next time ill upgrade all skils to 4 before maxing one out

i usually only level skills that i will 10/10

[atomic abyss]

it's more important to level the skills of ships you actually use

rather than not touching them at all

[lone knoll]

okay I will level a few of them then, i didnt want to waste books I watn to replace some of the ships I use

[atomic abyss]

it's not a waste

unless you're using 4 slots constantly
you wont ever run out of books

[lone knoll]

okay nice, i was running low on red books but not that im commander lvl95 the daily gives a lot more

these are the only ships I have skills leveled (the ones with red marks)

[atomic abyss]

everyone runs out of red books because they're the highest in demand

use the defensive ones too if needed
better than not levelling skills at all

[lone knoll]

100% will do it if i run out

[lone knoll]

one more question tho

regarding the rerun thats coming this week, is it worth to summon at all? I saw that the main ship is farmable

[atomic abyss]

no UR, not worth considering unless you have 400+ cubes

[lone knoll]

are the daily pulls on that banner 1 cube only?

[atomic abyss]

event banners are 2 cubes

[lone knoll]

still net 2 if i daily summon on event banner

should be fine then, i have 503 cubes

Maybe daily on event banner is better for me since I have no ships

[sweet delta]

0 cubes

[tranquil saffron]

What's the best fleet for nagato meta

[atomic abyss]

amagi, nano, haku, mog/eld, kazgumo, unzen

[sweet delta]

Depends on your goals and strength

[tranquil saffron]

mog finally has a use
I never thought this day would come

[atomic abyss]

she always had a use tho

[strong tartan]

Where were you she's been buffed for so long now

[stoic tulip]

what do you guys do with your 3k exp books?

i'm running out of ships to use it on and don't have enough cog chips to boost a bunch to 120

[sweet delta]

Filter Not max level and use them

[crimson glacier]

is this shit actually just new perma weekly quest

[stoic ermine]

i hate the venus vacation battle bgm. is there a way to not hear it in pvp, short of entirely muting my phone?

[keen sable]

equip your own...

[eager mulch]

don’t play pvp

can’t hear it in pvp if you don’t play pvp 🧠

[lucid eagle]

when is the ticket event thingy where we get free builds?

[tame jungle]

During the event

[lucid eagle]

wait when is the event? lmao

[tame jungle]

#game-news

[lucid eagle]

ty

[spice phoenix]

how beneficial are cats? and when should i try to get/build better cats?

[mint flint]

you can just use whatever cats, while you can minmax them to get better stats, its very expensive

only important thing being to use lvl30 gold cats for opsi mob fleet

[stone sluice]

+13 the improved snorkel worths the gold plates? It adds up 35 hit

[eager mulch]

no

[viscid swift]

there are many things I'd rather spend gold plates on first

[stone sluice]

[viscid swift]

to the point where I wouldn't really consider it

[eager mulch]

like auxes for amagi chan

[viscid swift]

unfortunately there is no rice ball aux in game

[left cedar]

we already have JP or CN patch notes, ortoo early? also any news about wut else aside rerun ?

[viscid swift]

let me check

[eager mulch]

amagi chan told me there will be more augs

[viscid swift]

nothing other than teasing the Temepesta event for next patch which we already know about and probably their augs

[left cedar]

i see, arigathanx Cheeky

[eager mulch]

so amagi chan was right

[regal linden]

what happened to my map

[hollow gust]

yeah ipad bugs, u can try repair assets but thats all you can do other then a full redownload

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[spring topaz]

When is the tier list going to be updated?

[forest palm]

go ask ECTL itself they have a link to their discord on their site

[spring topaz]

When are the preliminary evaluations on the event-faqs going to be updated?

[viscid swift]

whenever Sam writes them and bothers Ender to get the channel updated

which considering the event is now over is probably not going to happen

[pale niche]

Would you still use Shimanto's gun for Shimanto with FS5, when using her in W15?

[eager mulch]

little do people know, every time someone asks they push it back a day

[left cedar]

FS5 remove her limitations to her own gun, and her own gun its quite trash in surface DPS, u should use a gud CL Gun instead

[wet badge]

should i pull on aquilifier pool for sardegna tech

[left cedar]

if u have a safe amount of Cubes (1200+) is optional

if u wanna/need them yeah, feel free to

[viscid swift]

not forgetting there's gonna be about 34 build tickets

[soft raft]

only with the build tickets
none of them are particuarlly worth spending cubes for

Esp when we have a collab event, a New UR event, and a non-zero chance that we'll have Musashi rerun within the year

well ig you can say Da Vinci isnt half bad, but only if you dont have Wolfpack, of which Im pretty sure all 3 of the members of that squad are perma now one way or another

[left cedar]

1200 cubes should cover any necessitys between URs and events ... and 34 tickets can or cannot be enough to get them all

[viscid swift]

it's not like you need to pull any amount to get enough Italian tech points to cover all practical needs anyway

[pale niche]

The special AA gun from Shimanto's gun is not worth it?

[viscid swift]

not particularly with her FS

[left cedar]

if u are talking about her skill, the FS removes the requeriments, if u mean by CL Gun special one, not exactly, iirc its a bit worse than QB

[vale spindle]

Not in this discord server likely
i will update my website with them eventually but as I am busy i cannot commit to a specific timeframe other than "before 2025"

[left cedar]

Soon tm

[stark quiver]

i can help

[eager mulch]

I can make it worse

[stark quiver]

btw how much rld tech to get off 4th salvo w/o oath

[strange sphinx]

is the PR 7 Converging TB is great?

how it is with the Junker, Ryusei?

[left cedar]

better TRP dmg than both, slower than both

[stark quiver]

timing sidegrades

[strange sphinx]

does Ulrich Event have good Farmable weapon?

[eager mulch]

no

[hollow gust]

Get convenient we got Amagi around the time we get many of pr7 converging TBs

[stark quiver]

does anyone have a amagiCV, haku, nano anti heavy setup that uses 2 tenrais

[soft raft]

Just wait till they add it to gear lab next year
Tho speaking of, what plane would they use as the pre-req gear when they do get around to doing that?

[forest palm]

I don't use Haku any more

[stark quiver]

turtle slide the comp rq

[eager mulch]

whos turtle? what comp?

[stark quiver]

[eager mulch]

i dont have it but im probably sure someone out there does

[stark quiver]

nice one

[eager mulch]

or you can calc it yourself https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

2 tenrais in 2024 sheesh

[stark quiver]

never going back to pr4

[eager mulch]

you never leave pr4, it becomes a part of you for eternity

is it worth it to spend gems to reset merit shop

[stark quiver]

bro what

[viscid swift]

no

[stark quiver]

no bro

[soft raft]

Are you okay?
has the Amagi chan brainrot gone to stage 5?

[eager mulch]

i just feel like the merit shop is unfair to me

need bataan and conte de cavour but i havent seen them ever since i got enough merit for them

[stark quiver]

rly stressin for +1 rld

[viscid swift]

patience turtle

took like a month for Le Malin Muse to show up for m after she was added

also, why you should have started earlier

[soft raft]

^
Took me like 2 months to get Bataan to show up for me

[viscid swift]

pretty sure Cavour is a map drop anyway

[eager mulch]

i cba to play pvp

[stark quiver]

it took me a long ahh time to get eldrige, youll be fine

[viscid swift]

it is quite simply, take a meta fleet, hit battle maybe 20 times a day, profit