gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

On campaign you're fucking yourself over

[sharp socket]

it baffles me that the debuff doesnt stay forever on the enemy already inflicted with debuff but game design i guess

[atomic abyss]

What AA
None of those ships have good AA anyways

[coarse heron]

German ships
AA

[sleek spade]

hmmm ok. is Alsace even good for W14 and 15?

[atomic abyss]

The Germans have like, 3 AA boats

[sharp socket]

yes cause preload and UR BB

[atomic abyss]

3rd best for w15, 4th best for w14

[coarse heron]

Yes, you just shouldn't use her with other French ships

[sleek spade]

breh

[sharp socket]

its an option but not top option iirc

[atomic abyss]

FdG is best for w14 mobbing

[sleek spade]

I was hoping for big heal mobbing w Brest

[atomic abyss]

Musashi is best for w15 mobbing

Bis Zwei is the next best option for w15 mobbing

[sharp socket]

musashi and fdg are still 1st and 2nd for high campaign mobbing

[sleek spade]

I'll get Musashi during rerun then

[atomic abyss]

Hell, bis zwei is better than Musashi for 3*-ing

[elfin hollow]

is it possible to like just build a fleet off of ships you like design wise or is there gotta be specific comps for later game content

[atomic abyss]

The latter

[elfin hollow]

aw man

[harsh charm]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

You have some flexibility sure, but it's very limited

There are, as I said, 3 German boats that can AA

[sharp socket]

if the ships you like happen to be meta, then yes to former

[harsh charm]

Thx. Btw

[boreal temple]

I played just like that till I reached w13 so if you're below w13 then you're free to do whatever tbh since the game ain't that hard

Just be wary of your gear

[atomic abyss]

Sorry, 4

Not 3

[harsh charm]

And those are?

[boreal temple]

wait 4? who's the 4th?

[atomic abyss]

Nurnburg being the only one that's actually any good

The other 3 are Leipzig, Magdeburg and Regensburg

[boreal temple]

I forgot regen exist

[elfin hollow]

also what do i do with ship dupes

[boreal temple]

limit break else retire

[coarse heron]

use them to limit break, if your ships are MLB you just retire

[sharp socket]

use to mlb, commons to enhance, else retire

[elfin hollow]

thank u

wait how do i do that actually the mlb thing

[harsh charm]

I thought z46 has good aa. Mb

[sharp socket]

level to 70 then limit break

[atomic abyss]

She has an AA skill
But when your AA efficiency is 140% but you're still carrying DD tier AA

[boreal temple]

I think it's lvl 10 > lvl 30 > lvl70 for mlb

[harsh charm]

Hmmm true

[elfin hollow]

oh yeah I see it now, dang I have to level the lower rarities too

[boreal temple]

But yea just go book to 70 then mlb tbh

[atomic abyss]

Wait sorry

Z46 doesn't have an AA skill

Just high AA efficiency

[elfin hollow]

is levelling "enchance" or is that different

[atomic abyss]

Different

[sleek spade]

will York 2 rerun be the next rerun after Musashi?

[atomic abyss]

Enhance is for stats
Levelling is... Levels

[harsh charm]

Aaaaaaa

[sleek spade]

Do we have any SR rerun in between?

[elfin hollow]

I dont see the option of levelling actually

[atomic abyss]

Next UR rerun

[atomic abyss]

Tap the exp bar

[harsh charm]

There will be rerun of musashi? When?

[sleek spade]

soon tm

[atomic abyss]

Musashi is the next UR due for a rerun

[harsh charm]

I NEED COINS OH MY GOD

[atomic abyss]

When is this rerun
Only devs know

[sleek spade]

ah man. so there will be random SR rerun in between

[elfin hollow]

Oh I see it now lmao why is it there.

[boreal temple]

Don't waste too much of your books since exp requirement increase with their levels

As I said just do lvl70 then mlb then start bringing them to sorties or dorm

[sleek spade]

should I roll upcoming Italian rerun girls? cus they're hot and i got 1k cubes

[boreal temple]

farm ch9 up

[atomic abyss]

If you got like, way over 400 cubes

[elfin hollow]

yeah but my inventory is about to be full its gonna take a bit to level all the ships I have

so I cant really use the dupes to mlb

[atomic abyss]

Do remember there's almost certainly going to be a new UR in December

So you have 2 URs to save for

[boreal temple]

Retire easily obtainable blues and/or purples

[sharp socket]

you can kind of just skip mlb'ing ships you're not using early on and do them later

[sleek spade]

it's ok, still 1k cubes

[elfin hollow]

yeah I should just retire these grays huh

[boreal temple]

Learning to manage dockspace as an f2p or newbie will be very helpful

[woeful spade]

can shinano okay to use even at 3*

[harsh charm]

I am ch9 yes.

[boreal temple]

commons are used in enhance

Use them to enhance the ships you use

[harsh charm]

The best I can do is 70

[elfin hollow]

okay will do

[boreal temple]

Then farm X-1 or X-4 for coins

[harsh charm]

X?

[atomic abyss]

Then ignore anything not a UR

[harsh charm]

Like hard mode?

[atomic abyss]

Even a 5* shinano will be worse than a common rarity ranger

[harsh charm]

I am not summoning at all.

[boreal temple]

X = chapter

[atomic abyss]

If it's not a 6* UR
You can forget about using them

[harsh charm]

Oh kk

[boreal temple]

So in your case 9-1 or 9-4

[atomic abyss]

You'll get more mileage from lower rarity stuff that are max stars

[harsh charm]

Understood.

[harsh charm]

Explains why you can exchange her compared to NJ in building ships

[atomic abyss]

Wat

[boreal temple]

I think you misunderstood

[atomic abyss]

All URs follow this rule

Shinano isn't the only one

[boreal temple]

They're exchangable because they're on perma banner now

Ender is explaining that MLB low rarity is better than a non mlb UR

[atomic abyss]

Even the best URs like Amagi and Bismarck Zwei need 6* to work

[elfin hollow]

okay another question how do I upgrade the boxes to purple

[woeful spade]

i can mlb 1 UR who should i do first with this team ,shinano or NJ

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Have you read this btw

[boreal temple]

Any non mlb will be worse than an mlb ship so all in all it's just MLB or else don't use

[atomic abyss]

Neither
Save

[civic crag]

Where to get purple plates I just used like 700 and Im running low

[elfin hollow]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

Back to w12

[civic crag]

Damn

[boreal temple]

Just spam sorties

[harsh charm]

Understood

[boreal temple]

Or you can dismantle higher rarity useless gear BTD

[civic crag]

Tenrai>helldiver?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[civic crag]

Single target damage ryusei>wyvern?

[boreal temple]

Yes

[sharp socket]

if they hit yes

[woeful spade]

alright , thanks

[atomic abyss]

If you have a slow/freeze yes

[civic crag]

I have avp

[sharp socket]

and also if they sync yes

[boreal temple]

Consensus is still
parallel = mobbing
converging = bossing
right?

[civic crag]

Idk man people here are saying to just slap parallel on everything

[boreal temple]

Well that's true tbh I share the sentiment

If you don't have the means to guarantee converging to hit then just stick with parallels

[atomic abyss]

Parallel for campaign and mobbing in entirely

Abyssals, arbiter, CM, metas use converging

[boreal temple]

Thank god I thought my game knowledge is outdated

[atomic abyss]

I mean there are slowers good for campaign but like

Impla and Nakh are also good for w15 support fleet too so umm

[boreal temple]

I was gone for like half a year and now we have this much variety

[atomic abyss]

Impla is one thing, but Nakh is an absolute waste on support fleet imo

[boreal temple]

Wasn't nakh underpowered

[inner delta]

i swear to god cheeky need to change name

[sharp socket]

who has better AA, shimanto d30 or cheshire fs5

[atomic abyss]

Nakh is only underpowered if you don't use her in the right teams

[boreal temple]

I'd say shimanto but I didn't do math

[atomic abyss]

Which goes for literally EVERY ship

[boreal temple]

True

[atomic abyss]

I believe it's shimanto

[boreal temple]

I need to familiarize myself with the new teams

[atomic abyss]

Do consider whether you need CA AP or torps tho

[sharp socket]

im considering who to put the sextuple on

[atomic abyss]

Ah

[boreal temple]

Ah so you have both on your fleet

[atomic abyss]

Chesh has AAGM+1 no?

[sharp socket]

yes but shimanto has 205% slot eff which is why i asked

[atomic abyss]

Just use 2 Roombas and save yourself the thinking

[sharp socket]

but its for w15

[atomic abyss]

Why the fuck are you going to w15 with only 1 sextuple

Pls tell me you have a billion rainbow AA instead

[boreal temple]

That's ballsy

[sharp socket]

sextuple + 2 PR4 AA

[atomic abyss]

Forget it lol

[boreal temple]

Look at the fleet ren gave me look at the aa I need

[atomic abyss]

The twin 90mm is a glorified bofor

[sharp socket]

sextuple spam works?

[atomic abyss]

Not ideal, but it can work

[sharp socket]

i thought it has shit range

[atomic abyss]

Anything has shit range compared to the roomba

[boreal temple]

Wait is w15 planes that much of a pain

[atomic abyss]

Oh you sweet summer fruit

[boreal temple]

I haven't tried it yet just prepping

[atomic abyss]

W15 planes are so bad they literally give you an additional 3 carriers to deal with them

I mean with a really strong fleet you can absolutely ignore it

[atomic abyss]

I wouldn't advise it

[zenith peak]

which one is the roomba..?

[atomic abyss]

/wiki twin 113mm

[boreal temple]

The one that looks like one

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_113mm_AA_(QF_Mark_I)
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_114mm_(QF_Mk_IV)

Oct 8, 2024, 9:44 AM

[atomic abyss]

Top

Why the fuck did the 114 come out

[boreal temple]

WHy is 114 here

[atomic abyss]

But celerio

1 sextuple is way way way too little if you're not carrying rainbow 57s

[boreal temple]

I'm curious to what fleet you'll be bringing to w15

[plain saffron]

+1, looks close enough

[atomic abyss]

Maybe 1 sextuple per fleet is fine

[zenith peak]

this one ?

[atomic abyss]

Please don't craft it

For the love of god
Electronics are rare enough

It's in Royal tech boxes

[boreal temple]

Just get it on boxes

Don't waste circuits please

[zenith peak]

mk

[sharp socket]

what about 2

[atomic abyss]

Not Alsace?

[boreal temple]

That's a lot of pancakes

[atomic abyss]

FdG is a lot weaker in 15

[sharp socket]

itll be musashi there if she comes around before i start w15

also ignore the subs i havent updated those yet

[inner delta]

be real and dont craft like bejilion pancake

[zenith peak]

is it that good ?

[inner delta]

use something else

[sharp socket]

soyuz has more hp and has cv buffing

[inner delta]

it's totally absurd crafting that much

[boreal temple]

Try using what they gave me

Look at mine no pancakes

[sharp socket]

i can make 3 pancakes now, to make another 3 to have 10 in total is like 2 months max

[boreal temple]

10 is too much

[inner delta]

other than 15 what else are you gonna use it for

literally absurd for 10 of them

[boreal temple]

Just 6 is already a lot

I have like 4 of each

[inner delta]

stop and use skyrocket and bf

[sharp socket]

full pancake is the most effective is it not

[inner delta]

yeah but it's also mental

[boreal temple]

Imagine how much circuits you need

[sharp socket]

so ill take the most effective option

[storm heron]

I have 8 pancakes so far

[boreal temple]

Those circuits can be used for UR AA

[inner delta]

following sig full pancake option is actually just insane

[storm heron]

I have 2 already, waiting for another one after I craft a tenrai

[inner delta]

when literally i cleared it without guam and shit and didn't even need more than 4 pancake

but you do you

[boreal temple]

It's their opsi journey I guess

[inner delta]

yeah what else is gonna burn 300 plane sr bp for

[sharp socket]

i dont have like 20% of the shit im missing for w15 anyway and that can take me a long while so might as well make pancakes

[storm heron]

yeah ur fighter when

[shell willow]

or you can just save ordinance for rainbow gear :)

[sharp socket]

rainbow what, a third 457?

[inland shoal]

I mean he's also not using Guam or Laffii
But yeah while full pancake is probably the best you can do for fighters I'm not sure investing into pancakes is the most effective use of the mats

[inner delta]

you wouldnt know what they gonna add

[sharp socket]

exactly i dont know, so its no use stressing over it

[inland shoal]

I mean you're using a Barracuda in your boss fleet

[boreal temple]

Variety of gear is still better for timing reasons in the future

[sharp socket]

and there will be more to come

[inner delta]

that's exactly what i mean thorin, if i can clear it with 2 pancake there's 0 reason to make 10 even if it's "best" when literally bf and skyrocket does the same shit

[storm heron]

celerio deliberately not using guam laffey?

[sharp socket]

i started on huan chang event, i dont have guam/laff2

[inner delta]

and this is talking 1h pass w15 release

[inland shoal]

Tbh in support fleet I don't think there's even much of a difference between Skyrocket and Pancake. But idk haven't tested any of this so

[inner delta]

rice did, so did i

[atomic abyss]

For mob I mean

[inner delta]

literally doesn't matter

[storm heron]

also I don't think ur boss aa will be enough

[inner delta]

maybe yeah it's weaker but it literally wont change if you dont use good fleet

[boreal temple]

I agree but I haven't played w15 so didn't really say anything

[inner delta]

compared to the mats throwing out to make exclusive pancake for w15 only it's not worth the cost

[storm heron]

is interception affected by ship rld?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[sharp socket]

sure i can use alsace there, if she would be better than fdg

[atomic abyss]

Tho beacons not gonna help

@inner delta btw yooks
Why were flares bad for w14 again

[shell willow]

she is a lot better

[inner delta]

it's not bad or good it's just mix shit from people

some say its shit, some say it's good

[atomic abyss]

Alsace can focus down elites better, FdG can't

[boreal temple]

Speaking of w15 can I get away with not doing subs again like how I did in w14

[inner delta]

i don't see anything wrong with it nor anything good with taking it

[sharp socket]

the more things you have the easier it will be

[shell willow]

everything is clearable without subs, they just make stuff slightly easier

[inner delta]

but it's smth smth with target focusing

[inland shoal]

I mean yes but why make life hard on yourself?

[boreal temple]

I haven't really built them

[storm heron]

makes another pancake

[shell willow]

[inner delta]

it's technically not slightly eaasier, with good sub it's pretty easier

[sharp socket]

so about the flapjacks
what else would i spend my electronics on
im happy with 2shotting meta, i can do harbiter, i can do pvp reasonably well with my current gear

the only thing left to dump my resources into is w15

[inland shoal]

Though you have to figure out when to call your subs

[boreal temple]

UR AA needs electronics

[inner delta]

that certainly good to craft

[inland shoal]

Do you have only 1 Wyvern?

[sharp socket]

UR AA is another thing that is only really used in w15

[inner delta]

no

it's just good aa, not just for w15

[boreal temple]

UR AA will be quite useful when the need for AA arises

[sharp socket]

which happens to be w15

[inner delta]

cv arbiter and shit can use UR aa

[boreal temple]

And possibly future content

[sharp socket]

it also has use as a pvp statstick but ignoring that

[storm heron]

concealment prevention

[boreal temple]

Pancakes are less valuable compared to UR AA

[inner delta]

if you are really set in your way for just a bunch of pancake just for 15 then so be it, because seems that you are already set in stone

[inland shoal]

Even if it was just w15 I think UR AA probably does more than upgrading support fleet skyrockets to pancakes

[storm heron]

I find UR AA timegated when I need to craft 3 mk7, 3 twin100, and wyverns

[inland shoal]

I mean UR AA is quite expensive, but what else are you gonna do with your UR AA prints

[sharp socket]

my one UR AA print after all this time means ill need 4 months to get 2 UR AA

[woeful spade]

is anyone good on this?

[sharp socket]

along the way i can probably make some flapjacks

[storm heron]

[storm heron]

minneapolis and z46

no they are not good other than for tech points

[inland shoal]

Not rly
Can get Z46 mainly for KMS tech though

[harsh charm]

What is the point of having KMS Roon and KMS Mainz?

[obsidian ivy]

What do you guys use your UR torpedo prints for

[storm heron]

paper ships?

[tame jungle]

UR torpedoes

[harsh charm]

Yes.

Like roon has good barrage but otherwise idk.

And switching ammunition.

[boreal temple]

Tbh I just got them for extra kms tech

[harsh charm]

Lol.

[boreal temple]

They never seen a sortie before

[harsh charm]

Lmao. I used roon actually, to farm PR exp.

[inland shoal]

They're cute
Tbh they were pretty good in their time, nowadays only if you have a lack of otherships, they don't do much that's special

[storm heron]

I guess roon kinda have a point

[tame jungle]

ah yes, cruiser fp tech...

[boreal temple]

They're my dorm babies

[harsh charm]

True.

They need augment.

[boreal temple]

Being outdated is rough in this game

[harsh charm]

Kekw.

[boreal temple]

I think an augment won't save them

[harsh charm]

Depends on augment.

[woeful spade]

noob question , is the reward changing if the result on boss is not S? (like gold)

[inland shoal]

I mean technically an aug could add radar scan to any ship but yeah

[harsh charm]

Yes annd no. You can still play with outdated ships, in a lot of gacha games you can't.

[inland shoal]

You are not guaranteed to drop a ship without S

[boreal temple]

Tbh not really cuz if you need a tank there's agir she's free and if you need a cl there's ply she's also free

[inland shoal]

Idk about base resources tbh

[tame jungle]

you can get roon a LOT easier tho

but it's kinda a case of just use anchorage instead

[boreal temple]

AL is easy enough to be played with whoever you like with the exception of w13 up I know since that's how I played back then

[harsh charm]

Yes and she switches ammo and gets reload bonus. Basically better London retro

[sharp socket]

would this be more amenable

[storm heron]

the only time where outdated ships like mainz gonna be unplayable is when they somehow make farming easier to do in 14-4

[inner delta]

i mean yeah

4 cut the cost a lot

[storm heron]

Imagine a day where dorm gives a lot more exp and 120/150 become the threshold for levelling in 14-4

[harsh charm]

Perk wise Mainz is really unusable compared to roon

At this point I would ask what is better if AP or HE heavy cruiser gun

[boreal temple]

That really depends on what you're fighting

[harsh charm]

Mob.

[inland shoal]

For Roon?

[harsh charm]

Overall. Roon switches ammunition so it kinda makes her versatile.

[storm heron]

personally a hot take

[lone knoll]

after anchorage and agir who do you think is worth to research?

[boreal temple]

Just finish pr4 then move to pr5

[harsh charm]

Oh no.

[storm heron]

get ches some shoes and it is perfect

[boreal temple]

Staying for a while also means more tenrai prints

[lone knoll]

okay, it will take a long time to get agir and haku to max tho, like 6 months at least no?

[storm heron]

[lone knoll]

true

[boreal temple]

Not an issue since pr/dr takes time anyway even if you don't focus per season

[harsh charm]

Depends, I got Ägir in two weeks because I had IB ships and I am even level 80.

[inland shoal]

Hmm for mobbing probably mostly AP but that's kinda due to it often having better chracteristics. Just use your best gun tbh.

[storm heron]

Probably longer if you don't cube or don't catchup, 4 months if catchup

[lone knoll]

so just blast and cruise on pr4 for a while gotcha

[lone knoll]

agir to dev 30 I mean

[boreal temple]

The tanks are usable as soon as d25 while the backliners really need d30 to function so keep that in mind

[harsh charm]

Best ca gun here would be 203mm SKC improved

[boreal temple]

Yea you won't really regret it

[harsh charm]

Once but still.

[lone knoll]

this wont reach dev 25 i think

[lone knoll]

nice thanks

[storm heron]

yeah it won't

[boreal temple]

Missing a few but you'll get there eventually

[lone knoll]

this is WITH catch up btw how cooked am I

[boreal temple]

Iirc ancho is coinable now so that's that

[sharp socket]

just grind youll get there eventually

[boreal temple]

You aren't cooked just timegated

[harsh charm]

You at least got stuff. I am squeezed out.

[storm heron]

more like 69 few of 333

[lone knoll]

i got all her prints already and havent even ulocked her yet due to tech

[harsh charm]

Oh RIP

[lone knoll]

not for fs5 but sill shes good without anyways

[boreal temple]

Don't worry war archives are your go-to for tech

[harsh charm]

Wanted to ask which should I run though.

[lone knoll]

yeah i used that to farm ib tech, anchorage only need 20 more eagle its easy

[storm heron]

drs are just on different level, having more expensive bp on shops yet you need more of them than gold bps

[boreal temple]

Run the event that drops the tech you need

Chessboard = KMS you get the idea

[harsh charm]

Kk

[storm heron]

is ancho fs5 cheshire-level importance?

[lone knoll]

i have yet to use a single dr print, I keep them all from events idk even know when to spend them

[boreal temple]

I saved them to analyze it later on

Then used it to buy the UR gear prints

[lone knoll]

big brain move. i will save them aswell

[inland shoal]

Bit higher imo

[lone knoll]

i want ply tho, might use a couple on her idk when i finish pr4

[boreal temple]

Get used to it I'm not even efficient with it but that's normally how resource management is in this game

[lone knoll]

yeah when in doubt = save thats what im doing

[storm heron]

since agir is not getting used, her fatesim might give her the slow we needed

[harsh charm]

Wdym?

[boreal temple]

Don't need to rush her since even if you finish her early she's not usable until you switch your focus to pr5 for her prints

I did that mistake so try not to replicate it

[lone knoll]

yeah when i said a couple i meant like 400 lol nevermind, i wont do it its a huge waste

[inland shoal]

Protos are a weird resource
First you always need more and suddenly you have more than you'll ever need

[storm heron]

reminds me of core data

[boreal temple]

From my experience I kinda drop agir on my bb fleet since all she's doing is tanking and the slow isn't needed now cuz bz black hole exist and I just let ply tank

[tame jungle]

agir is also armor break support

[harsh charm]

I see.

[storm heron]

does she really increase the damage?

[tame jungle]

that is what armor break does yeah

[harsh charm]

Ägir is Prinz Eugen retrofit

[storm heron]

I thought ap bb ammo has armor break to heavy enemies

[tame jungle]

it's the same concept

[thin haven]

Is this good?

[storm heron]

compared to tenessee, yes

[harsh charm]

Doesn't load, what is it 4k?

[inland shoal]

Yes on heavy enemies Ägir AB doesn't matter

[storm heron]

nvm her skill not leveled

also swap the purple for white or black shells

[harsh charm]

French NJ. Interesting.

[thin haven]

Actually this is my alt account and l don't have any good equipment to replace

[inland shoal]

But on heavy CVs dominate more often than not anyway

[storm heron]

buy shell from core data

[harsh charm]

Like irl

[storm heron]

or use the ap1 shell

[thin haven]

Alr

[storm heron]

but Ig for very2 poverty when everything is unavailable that is okay

[harsh charm]

Question. Where in OPS can I farm stuff for Gear lab?

[sharp socket]

the whole thing

[harsh charm]

:/

[sharp socket]

just do all explorable, buy all hidden from shops, do all hidden, do all stronghold, do all abyssal, do all dailies every day and at the end of month dump all AP into c3 or c5

[harsh charm]

Alright. Thx

[sharp socket]

short answer is do everything

[atomic abyss]

Uh
Is 14-4 boss mogami or mogami retro

[storm heron]

med armor

looks like CA

[atomic abyss]

Oh right
Even regular mog is med

[storm heron]

mog is light

[sly robin]

Do we have a roadmap or prediction who (ur ships) will get a rerun banner soon and so on?

[atomic abyss]

Roadmap no

Any rerun order is based on the actual order they came in

[boreal temple]

We have this 🔮

[sly robin]

Oh

[storm heron]

until they don't

[atomic abyss]

What we do know is that we have Roma event rerun coming

[inland shoal]

Not Amoggers

[atomic abyss]

And a new tempesta event coming

[sly robin]

Roma event? Which one is that?

[atomic abyss]

Aquilifer Ballade

[soft osprey]

i hear that my nimi build is shit, can i get tips?

[sly robin]

Okay noted

[storm heron]

do not use ASW

[boreal temple]

Get a better main gun, AA, and auxes

Level your skills up

[atomic abyss]

Drop all the asw gear
Give her a toolbox x2
Give her a purple twin 120mm

[inland shoal]

Never use Sonar
Hedgehog is useless before w14
AA is ok if you don't have better
Main gun is not great

[soft osprey]

thanks

[haughty pine]

Do you think we will finally get news for update today? I saw speculation reply on Twitter that next event will be 20th and man I don't wanna wait that long 😭

[storm heron]

omg 2 dead weeks

Time to push 15-5

[soft osprey]

i just want it to be the blucher event man.

[sly robin]

Btw that to love ru collab is coming soon right?

[boreal temple]

Soon TM

[sly robin]

I see

[storm heron]

I don't think soon is the word

[haughty pine]

Have they ever done 2 dead weeks before? Is that really possible 😭 😭

[boreal temple]

You can have this 🔮

[lucid eagle]

is Battke pass worth>

[storm heron]

they did a whole munth back then

[soft osprey]

if you have the money to burn on it it's better than scamcat

[boreal temple]

I'd say just get the monthly

Unless you like the skin

[inland shoal]

Well patch notes for next update are out, Whydah story and augs for Washy and Bulldog

Well and an "event" ig

[soft osprey]

you mean the short pre event type?

[inland shoal]

No the 7 day login type

[jaunty vault]

hello guys how good is Washington augment

[soft osprey]

ah , that type

[haughty pine]

My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Hope for collab to drop after then dang

[inland shoal]

To get a skin I forgot which

[jaunty vault]

i dont see no patch notes

[soft osprey]

javelin's party skin? (a good one, still behind her oath skin)

[lucid eagle]

what is scamcat

[jaunty vault]

javelin is an ongoing event

[soft osprey]

akashi

[lucid eagle]

ah

[coarse heron]

Any tips for a new player?

[inland shoal]

CN only so far

[jaunty vault]

long live Google translate

[soft osprey]

dont worry about meta

[inland shoal]

Kiev's ice skater skin apparently

[jaunty vault]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[jaunty vault]

thats a bad tip

[soft osprey]

for a new player

[jaunty vault]

so rerun

[rain bobcat]

[inland shoal]

It's a great tip if they mean META

[storm heron]

having held back 6 months of progress, catched up all the prs, no protocores, no tenrais, taking free researches, building in permanent pool, spending gems on academy and dorm, not doing hard mode, buying box with coins

[soft osprey]

META are PTSD wives. Must headpat

[tame jungle]

It’s a bad tip for a new player too since it will just prolong their early-midgame

[lucid eagle]

do they reward a lot of cubes during an event?

[inland shoal]

Not rly

[soft osprey]

one cannot go for meta in early game

at that point you make do wit what you get

[storm heron]

meta definition

[inland shoal]

That just depends on your definition of meta

[tame jungle]

Port helena starter unicorn penny + whatever is literally also a meta lol

[inland shoal]

The a in meta is available afaik

[soft osprey]

oh yeah also, gems are for dock space

[jaunty vault]

why are you pinging me

[storm heron]

lmao

[soft osprey]

cuz it's a reply directly to your other message and otherwise i'd be buried

[jaunty vault]

take some time

[soft osprey]

also, farm 3-4. Akagi and Kaga are worth it, and it's a reliable way to quickly max limit break them.

[storm heron]

some say meta is most effective tactics available

[tame jungle]

Stop inting

[thick venture]

Erm

[storm heron]

bro where mods

[tame jungle]

Unless you want helpban lol

[boreal temple]

That's just trolling

[soft osprey]

Nope

[jaunty vault]

alright calm down everybody

[soft osprey]

got both to just needing one star for max limitbreak in less than a week from not owning either

[storm heron]

ragebait detected

[wet badge]

is musashi good for boss

[jaunty vault]

where is thorin when you need him

[tame jungle]

Ye

[wet badge]

explain

[sharp socket]

yes in both mob and boss

[inland shoal]

I swear I leave for one sec

[tame jungle]

Damage

[jaunty vault]

big damage

[storm heron]

alriight come again Chara?

[tame jungle]

Large damage even

[wet badge]

is she better than nj for boss

[boreal temple]

Tell me you watched yt guides without telling me you watched yt guides

[sharp socket]

yes

[inland shoal]

Don't insult ppl just cuz they give bad advice

[soft osprey]

farming 3-4 is worth it.

[storm heron]

kimochizu

[inland shoal]

And Kaga and Akagi are bad

[thick venture]

When's the next UR

[soft osprey]

and i'll stand by it given how rare golden bulins are

[tame jungle]

Bruh

[inland shoal]

So even if you get lucky and get the both MLB right away that's pointless cuz you don't wanna use them either way

[jaunty vault]

next new UR event should be around last week of december
emphasis on should and new UR

[boreal temple]

Probably around december

[sharp socket]

the consensus in 2024 is to ignore fox mines and push to w12

[lucid eagle]

Is Private Headquarters a permanent event?

[tame jungle]

Ye

[thick venture]

Thankies

[inland shoal]

No it's not an event

[tame jungle]

Event, feature, same thing

[soft osprey]

It's permanent. More are getting added

[storm heron]

prepare when UvH scenario happen, they sneak in an UR event a week

[soft osprey]

i think next might be noshiro but im not sure

[boreal temple]

Don't awaken my ptsd

[crimson grove]

it was UvH into Guam Laffey was it

[inland shoal]

Some file names seemed to indicate Noshiro but who knows if that means anything

[storm heron]

"Noshiro"?

[tame jungle]

Noshiro

[crimson grove]

Noshiro

[boreal temple]

[plain saffron]

Noshiro

[storm heron]

so shinano event rerun is around the corner?

[crimson grove]

Wouldnt that imply more towards NoshM

Didnt nano get a rerun already?

[plain saffron]

No? She's already permanent

[tame jungle]

You mean musashi?

[soft osprey]

shinano is in the current ur

[thin haven]

Should I pick this for Essex?

[plain saffron]

Who's in 3d dorm have nothing to do with event

[wet badge]

shes alr perma

[boreal temple]

NO

[tame jungle]

It’s a downgrade

[crimson grove]

as in Noshiro meta

[boreal temple]

Don't use BTD

[soft osprey]

at least enhance it first too

[wet badge]

?

[storm heron]

yes, pick sb2c over btd

[inland shoal]

What? Why?

[crimson grove]

no reasoning just pondering

[tame jungle]

There is no noshiro meta, do you mean noshiro muse?

[storm heron]

it is so random suddenly just file indicated noshiro haha

[tame jungle]

We’re talking about 3d dorm anyway so idk why a noshiro meta would just come up lol

[soft osprey]

i think it'd be the opposite than meta, given how quarters make the shipgirl happier...you know, the opposit eof what's needed for a natural META transofrmation

[inland shoal]

Purple Helldiver is the best db there is until you get Tenrai

[storm heron]

[soft osprey]

quick question: finally got richelieu. is joffre+ jean bart a good backline for her?

[tame jungle]

For what

[soft osprey]

for richelieu

[tame jungle]

What content

[inland shoal]

Doesn't sound like a good backline

[zenith heron]

You planning to do a Faction Fleet on Campaign perhaps?

[tame jungle]

Maybe pr grind it wouldn’t be awful but that’s all i can really think of lol

[soft osprey]

more for opsi

[boreal temple]

Can't see anywhere it would be better than a standard fleet

[soft osprey]

for campaign i already use more of a mishmash with enty and shinano

[boreal temple]

Just as thorin said it doesn't sound like it'll do good

[soft osprey]

well my backups are dunkerque and strasbourg

[boreal temple]

Even on opsi what exactly is this fleet for? Mobbing/bossing?

[zenith heron]

So its a faction fleet... not really optimal sadly but doable

[soft osprey]

mobbing, for bosses i use one which has avp and roon

[boreal temple]

Either way it sounds like it's no good

[tame jungle]

it just won't do all that much damage

[boreal temple]

insert obligatory faction fleet bad statement here

[tame jungle]

mobbing you can get away with whatever the hell you want but you need a healer (which for french faction is only really painleve iirc)

(but imo it's a #justrununicorn moment)

[zenith heron]

And Painleve is at least Decent as Volga and any other healer other than Perseus and Uni Kai (Unicorn will always be better)

[soft osprey]

well im still grinding unicorn up

and keeping a ring specially for her too

[zenith heron]

You can stick up with any mob fleet, the boss fleet does not need a full faction to work since

ALL Ship Buffs > Faction Fleet Buffs

[soft osprey]

even lizzy's?

[tame jungle]

QE's the biggest noobtrap because she herself as a ship doesn't really do much

[atomic abyss]

The ship herself is bad
She doesn't buff the others enough for it to be worth using her

[soft osprey]

Cuz i was planning on using this loadout (once i get everyone up to speed)

[atomic abyss]

It's really bad yeah

Besides unicorn, none of the actually good HMS ships are there

[soft osprey]

i thought belfast was one of the good ones?

[atomic abyss]

If this was 2018 maybe

[tame jungle]

back in 2018 she was

[weary gust]

Belfast is pretty meh.

[atomic abyss]

She's just "ok" now

Mono faction fleets are pretty weak for this reason

You're forcing yourself to use meh or even shit ships

There are good HMS frontliners
But most of them are incredibly niche (though they are used) like Aurora and Sirius
Or just straight up difficult/time consuming to get like Drake, Cheshire and Plymouth

[lucid eagle]

Should I be looking into "War Archives" at this time or is that a mid/lategame thing?

[soft osprey]

it's really not worth it

[tame jungle]

If you’re missing a lot of tech for Friedrich der Grosse, it’s probably worth doing

[soft osprey]

for the ships that you can get it's around 6k in oil at the very least

[lucid eagle]

still new so I don't have that ship, just wondering if there's any other content I can look at besides campaign

[atomic abyss]

There aren't any events now so

Push campaign till w9 at least

[tame jungle]

Ehh just rush campaign to w12 and you can chill there

[lucid eagle]

ight thanks

[soft osprey]

i'd recommend at least w10 for the second newcomer stuff.

[tame jungle]

Whenever there’s time limited stuff, farm that instead of campaign

[lucid eagle]

I see

[atomic abyss]

There will be operation siren to farm so

[lucid eagle]

is the to love ru collab going to be the next event?

[atomic abyss]

No

[lucid eagle]

wait how often do we get events?

[atomic abyss]

If it was, they would have already teased the ships by now

[tame jungle]

Quite often

[atomic abyss]

3/4 weeks we have events

[soft osprey]

this week is one such exemption

[atomic abyss]

Tho I think JP patch notes are already out

[lucid eagle]

I see

[blazing shale]

was there a roadmap from the anniv?

[atomic abyss]

No rerun this week in CN patch notes

[atomic abyss]

Not with the exact dates

Anni said Roma event rerun, a new tempesta ship and Collab this year

That's all that's confirmed

[inland shoal]

Roadmaps in this game are pretty much always this and that is gonna happen soon™️

[atomic abyss]

And from looking at CN patch notes
We're not getting anything big this week

It looks to be another dead week

[inland shoal]

Kiev skin event rerun week, not dead

[atomic abyss]

At least give us new augs smh

Oh wait

[wind hazel]

there are augs

[atomic abyss]

Bulldog and Washington are getting augs

Oh this might be genuinely interesting actually

[wind hazel]

and secretary

[atomic abyss]

Ok bets from me
Hood gets powercrept again

Wash is probably gonna get 100% proc rate

[crimson glacier]

would that even beat hood

[atomic abyss]

Back in their respective heydays
Wash was basically hood with a worse barrage but more gun damage

[crimson glacier]

yeah and thats how it is now too

[atomic abyss]

It wouldn't be that hard to powercreep

Tho, wash 2nd skill is the actually useless one
Rather than her barrage

[crimson glacier]

if washington had good secondaries id be more interested

[atomic abyss]

200% DD secondaries is normal by US standards

[inland shoal]

Why not just wait for the aug who knows what they do

[crimson glacier]

i know, its still bad

[atomic abyss]

Tho some do have 210%

Better than Hood's 150%

[crimson glacier]

i dont think it really matters

the DD part is the bigger problem

[atomic abyss]

I mean torva

Testing has shown that the 137 is better than the 155 Kai in w14/15

[crimson glacier]

im not going to take either of those to w15

[atomic abyss]

That's not the point

The point was that the 137 is a DD gun

[crimson glacier]

isnt the point how good they are for new players

[inland shoal]

W14 and 15 are very different from normal bomb botes

[atomic abyss]

And if hood can deal with most normal bomb boats as is
No reason wash can't

[crimson glacier]

the thing is that i dont see how that can powercreep hood

[atomic abyss]

It's as simple as, "Wash may end up being better to get from BB shop"

US tech for ancho too after all

But yeah remains to be seen

[boreal temple]

But what about the "Hood solves BC requirement" argument

[zenith heron]

I think that is on its own, since she is the only easier to access ship for starters in that category (Amagi BC isn't any better)

[atomic abyss]

considering that

hood is still one of the ship choices from the beginner rewards

[jaunty vault]

isn't it too early to be discussing this
that too in gph

[lucid eagle]

is there a ship formation that I should be using at specific times?

[atomic abyss]

double line

[jaunty vault]

double line works almost everywhere

[lucid eagle]

ah, when would you switch?

[boreal temple]

Then circular for w12 and w13

[zenith heron]

Used to be, but I only see that to be used often in W14 and 15

[atomic abyss]

double line all the way unless you're dying to planes in w12/13

[lucid eagle]

hm okay thanks

[frank pulsar]

you use circle in w12, w13 and w15, double line everywhere else
for w15 specifically, you switch between the two depending on whether your main fleet or vanguard is dying

straight line is never used

[jaunty vault]

there was some debate about whether double line or circular is better in plane heavy worlds
you do what suits you better

straight line is good for grinding

[lucid eagle]

sweet thank you for the info

[plain saffron]

So just augment and triple core data. And rerun on next next maint

[keen sable]

van dead, double, main dead, circular

both dead, single to get it over with faster

[jaunty vault]

kiev skin rerun

[muted ember]

how good is Fargo's healing?

[fast plaza]

is it cool if i spend all my prototype core to get my first tenrai?

[muted ember]

got champy guns?

[jaunty vault]

better to get some SR equips first

[soft raft]

did you get at least 2-3 champy guns first?

[fast plaza]

i have yet to buy anything with this

[muted ember]

get Champy guns

[soft raft]

then dont
get champy guns (406 MLE from PR3) first

[fast plaza]

what is this champy gun again

[jaunty vault]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[fast plaza]

ah ok thank you

[lone knoll]

how is 3 champ guns total ? dont you guys have like dozens of built ships? am i supposed to change gear around between ships?

[keen sable]

you can but you can't actually finish one for another 3 weeks

[keen sable]

i have 2

[soft raft]

just swap gears
I have like 3 then Soyuz gun and Izumo gun so I'm basically all set

[wind hazel]

yes most players swap gear

only power fleeter nerds make 147103213 gear for their 19641932 ships

[jaunty vault]

its more so that BBs need different guns for different occasions
you wouldn't swap auxiliaries or AA guns and would just get a shit ton of them

[white agate]

yep, swapping gear is the way, i literally have 2-3 preset for each ship and for general use i use purple gears, then i swap to the free gold or ur gears when the contents requires it, well except aux those i did a ton

[stuck valley]

better pull Sirius or Dido?

[soft dagger]

sandy

[tame jungle]

Sirius and sandy (retro) both good

[muted ember]

is it better to use purple Twin 410mm or Triple 406mm MK 6 on Hood?

[stuck valley]

okay, so can I carry for campaign level 8 above or boss battle?

[soft dagger]

mk6 personally, purp 410 if you want her to proc her barrage more
both works

[keen sable]

sandy better for campaign. sirius isn't used in campaign.

[inland shoal]

Sandy retro very expesnive tho

[tame jungle]

But also extremely worth it

[forest palm]

good thing you don't need to immediately retro sandy, and can get by with just her Augment

[soft dagger]

ye those two are not the ship you should be using at w8

[tame jungle]

Huh?

[forest palm]

yes, Sandy's UE is a substantial upgrade even to her base form

[fast plaza]

isnt w8 just brute force with lvl

[muted ember]

how good is Hiei Meta?

[soft raft]

"Good but better options exist"
Wouldnt really say she's a high prio to raise

esp if you have Hood and Nelson already

[south sequoia]

Late, but its also a pain in the butt to level meta skill levels

[quasi slate]

How is this fleet formation? Any tweaks?

[soft raft]

what content is this for?
W15? W14? OpSi? META Fight?

Because that fleet can be serviceable or terribly unoptimized depending on the conent you're doing

[hollow gust]

book them

[south sequoia]

for newbies

[vast sparrow]

Worth? I still have mats for my 3rd wyvern

[boreal temple]

Lb1 Guam is more prio for burin than Lb0 alsace right?

[tame jungle]

well you already crafted it didn't you

[eager mulch]

Depends on what you have already

[vast sparrow]

Been stacking Custom Mats boxes from arbs

[boreal temple]

You'd say it wouldn't matter if I say I have every UR mlb already accept those 2

[eager mulch]

Is it worth it to craft 8 spearfish? (i already crafted them)

[tame jungle]

[boreal temple]

[eager mulch]

Guam would be better for W15 ig

[crimson glacier]

and worse for everything else

[hollow gust]

Alsace is a top choice in w15 too

[boreal temple]

But I kinda only want alsace for pvp so tbh I really don't have good reasons to mlb either unless alsace is also a oneshotter for meta

[vast sparrow]

how to remove Announcement popup on daily login? Its getting annoying

[boreal temple]

Afaik you can't

[mighty galleon]

Does meta ships contribute exp for research?

[crimson glacier]

no

[boreal temple]

No

[mighty galleon]

Ok

[soft osprey]

Leipzig and Mainz are worth it right?

[tame jungle]

not particularly

[eager mulch]

worth what

[quasi slate]

Any daily raid, W13, and exercises

Oh and OPSCI

[soft osprey]

The resources invested into getting them

[soft raft]

Whatever (but could be suboptimal depending on the specific raid), could use a AA carry in the vanguard, meme tier 99% of the time, and OpSi mob is easy AF respectively

[boreal temple]

That won't cut it in w13

[boreal temple]

leipzig is literally a blue shjp and you'll practically get every pr ship if you keep playing so

If you're asking if it's optimal well that's a different topic

[soft osprey]

well grinding the Königsbergs is pain.

[boreal temple]

uhh what?

[quasi slate]

Gotcha. Anyone you recommend I replace?

[boreal temple]

Helena

[soft osprey]

The oil cost.

[soft raft]

That depends on your dock
Which you may as well post in a thread at this point

[boreal temple]

You're grinding for common ships?

[soft raft]

Where tf are you farming for her
Cuz she's a drop in every W12 map

[boreal temple]

if you're talking about these 3 specifically for the gem reward?

Cuz if you're not then I am not understanding your goal

And besides you kinda don't farm them it just happens that you get them by playing regularly

[quasi slate]

Gotcha thanks

[boreal temple]

Please tell me you're not farming 3-4

[soft osprey]

i already have the 3. And AFAIK you only start getting leipzig after you got her via that

[soft osprey]

have the foxes to max limit break. no need for me

[boreal temple]

You get a copy of leipzig from that afaik

[soft osprey]

just checked wiki, you only get her in construction after getting 9 stars on the königsbergs

[boreal temple]

pretty sure you're awarded a copy too

[soft osprey]

yeah

[forest palm]

I'm still not sure what you're trying to accomplish that shows any difficulty pertaining to Konigsberg

[soft osprey]

not difficulty, just pain

[forest palm]

same shit

[boreal temple]

She's not a map drop so I don't understand what oilcost you're saying

[soft osprey]

mainly in the form o my oil supply being gone

[soft osprey]

have to grind the konigsbergs to limitbreak them

[dense eagle]

whats a good fleet for the hard mode guild boss?

[boreal temple]

Uhhhh

Bulins exist

[soft osprey]

pry ships i'd say?

[zenith heron]

So basically for display?

[dense eagle]

what does this rainbow flag mean

[eager mulch]

it means to use rainbow ships

[still nest]

Aux

[dense eagle]

oh im using this fleet which is all rainbow i think but i only got 280 out of 301

[boreal temple]

Gear matters too

[eager mulch]

it’s not important how much you get

[boreal temple]

Taht should be enough to do 301 with the right gear

[zenith heron]

Your strongest ships, which means if you have UR ones, use it (As long as they are MLB and enough to kill Guild boss)

[eager mulch]

should make musashi flag and maybe check gear

[dense eagle]

oh woops i forgot left most is flag not middle

[boreal temple]

Tbh I'm using pvp gear on musashi and it still clears

I'd drop agir for another vg dps unless you have nothing else better

[dense eagle]

what i do for gear is i just go to the azur lane tier list website and just copy the "best" ones (i know armor type and stuff but yeah

[zenith heron]

If its from Support, check their equips. If its yours, then adjust your equipments

[soft dagger]

try replacing laffii with helena

[dense eagle]

who should i replace who with? i got every ship that matters

[boreal temple]

Helena means timing which will be hard if his gears are a mess

Can you show your gear

[soft dagger]

laffii ain't doing anything for BBs

[zenith heron]

If its ECTL, they just suggest the best gear if possible to get, but gears really matter if you take note of the Enemy's Armor type, which will affect your dmg against it

[boreal temple]

I'm running sashi zwei vanny ply hinden laffey with random gear and still does fine

Pretty sure it's not a buff issue

Ok maybe not random gear other than sashi's pvp gear

[eager mulch]

yeah that’s dogshit

[dense eagle]

dayum

[soft dagger]

you're right

[eager mulch]

guild boss is heavy armor and you’re using unsynced HE guns

[zenith heron]

Your front line has a tank and a buffer, so replace Laffey 2 for someone with better dmg like Unzen or Shima if better (she is just an all rounder, and for her ignore dmg for a small portion)

[dense eagle]

is it just bad in general or is it because of the armor type cuz i really cantb e asked to change gear constantly

[boreal temple]

Change your laffey torp that sucks

Don't use the UR torp just do quadmags

Drop the hedgehog too

[eager mulch]

UR Quint mags are fine

[dense eagle]

hedghehog was for ch15

[soft dagger]

pretty sure changing the BB gun is enough

[boreal temple]

Ah understandable then

[dense eagle]

whose

[soft dagger]

all 3

[boreal temple]

Change all to AP

[eager mulch]

all of them BB main guns should be changed and that’ll clear

[boreal temple]

Izumo gun for musashi then champy on vanny and nj

[dense eagle]

ah ok then if i only have to change the main guns it isnt much of a hassle

[zenith heron]

For your backline that is

[boreal temple]

Investing on 155kai would be a nice upgrade for your bbs too

[dense eagle]

ok ty then ill just change them to strong ap guns or what you suggested and should be good

[boreal temple]

Just me nitpicking not really that big

[dense eagle]

eheheh which is the 155kai

[zenith heron]

Your Musashi strikes first before getting buffs from Vanguard

[eager mulch]

Triple 155 kai will make zero difference

[boreal temple]

Ya that's why I said I was just nitpicking

[zenith heron]

If none, the normal one would be ok for now

[eager mulch]

it’s not nitpicking, it changes literally nothing

[daring light]

for general purpose and ignoring shell type.. which one better, georgia gun or nj gun?

[zenith heron]

Since what matters is your dmg, timing and buffs

[zenith heron]

NJ (For what purpose tho)

[boreal temple]

Right mb mb

[dense eagle]

Don't worry brother I got all the gear since I've been playing for quite some time

[viscid swift]

you can't ignore those things

[daring light]

does the comparison by alot or just slightly?

[soft raft]

"General purpose" is also not really a thing when it comes to gearing and fleet composition

[cold flint]

Hey

[zenith heron]

Sadly a 90 percent is still lacking so there is no best in slot for this one

[cold flint]

What is the best loadout for Anchorage

[daring light]

ahh okk tyy

[cold flint]

and between anchorage and azuma, who is better?

[daring light]

i mean i cant just change the gun everybattle tho

[soft raft]

CA gun / either iris blue torps or German purple mag (doesn't really matter too much) / AA gun / typical cruiser Auxes

Azuma is the better damage dealer, Ancho is the better tank

[zenith heron]

Anchor all the way, dmg tho Azuma does it better

[boreal temple]

Cheeky said that cuz there's no such thing as general purpose

[eager mulch]

Instructions unclear, purple quint mags

[cold flint]

What if I merge anchorage and azuma into a fleet

[eager mulch]

how slow do purple quint mags reload

[zenith heron]

Sadly there is no gun yet to deal 100% dmg to all armor types, so you gotta use what you have

[south sequoia]

more chonk, most likely less dps and less utility

you want a balance

you want chonk, you want utility and if the fight lets you, you can have a dps

[daring light]

for mobbing? or i should mix between ap and he for my 2 bb just for efficiency?

[south sequoia]

some characters are both

[soft dagger]

26.54 on max rld CB

[cold flint]

Azuma, Anchorage and Shimakaze is enough for pvp?

[zenith heron]

For mobbing usually ships with strong barrages are the deal, so faster guns are optimal if you want faster clear (ignore most armor types)

The only ones you will take note on Armor types a lot is on Bosses

[south sequoia]

ask in #pvp

[soft raft]

Ngl it's namely boss fights where armor type matters more, both AP and HE work perfectly fine on mob

[daring light]

ahh so id better put faster cd to spamming barrage instead using designated equip... noted tyy

[daring light]

yeah i thought there is something i can minmax efficiency on mobs, between nj and georgi gun

[zenith heron]

Its up to you on timing bcs against mob fleets, you don't wanna waste a lot of time in it.

Boss fights are just different...

[daring light]

yeah sure i always adjust my equip for each boss, but for mobfleet i thought there is something special or most efficient gun

tyy all

[viscid swift]

what exactly are you using them for mobbing, light armor bosses, etc

[forest palm]

looks like another dead week then Ballad
Washington UE is neat

[modern depot]

What would be the best fleet for how generally, to maximize her damage?

[lone knoll]

planes dont have damage modifiers like bb guns do? do they just get extra stats from +13?

[soft osprey]

hot take, but i think amagi cv getting buffed if sortied with akagi or kaga makes putting the 3 foxes together viable

[zenith swallow]

Is there a guideline on what weakness a ship type has?

[soft osprey]

i dont think they have a specific weakness

[forest palm]

no hull type inheriently has a weakness, it's specifically armor types

[soft osprey]

other than light ships aganinst pocker battleships

[viscid swift]

as opposed to using Shinano, Hakuryu, Implacable, etc yeah

[boreal temple]

Is lusty augment worse than bow on support fleet

[zenith heron]

Only different armor types tell how much they can take dmg

[eager mulch]

Unique augment better than bow

[soft dagger]

yes, they still got the 3% opsi bonus tho and the planes ordnance got damage increase

[lone knoll]

so not remotely close to upgrading bb guns to +13

[soft dagger]

I'm not sure what you mean

[eager mulch]

both increase their respective damage by 4%/6%/8% per level

aka they get the same bonuses

[zenith heron]

Lusty's augment is on the defensive side, the other is offensive

[unique lantern]

does vanguard want this to hit before the other bbs?

[lone knoll]

okay that makes more sense

[eager mulch]

In the context of support fleet, unique augment is just better

[reef flume]

Give her the same main gun all your other BBs have

[lone knoll]

i was thinking that the stat increase was very small compared to the %dmg bb guns get sorry

[unique lantern]

dont have multiple champys yet 😔

[reef flume]

Any other 20 second gun?

[zenith heron]

At Max MLB she can be faster sometimes, but not optimal since poor dmg and its a barrage gun type than a shelling type

[unique lantern]

the purple ones

[eager mulch]

And where would this be viable compared to taking other UR CVs

[soft dagger]

The damage increase from +10 to +13 is 18%, rounded of course
Both BB guns and planes

[reef flume]

Mk6? Give her that in that case. It's HE yeah, but it'll allow her to go first and sync

[zenith heron]

Good for light, decent for medium, sounds ok...

[lone knoll]

okok maybe ill raise planes to +13 then, thanks

[unique lantern]

meant this one

[zenith heron]

Twin 410, not optimal but doable unless if you want timing, you don't want Vanguard to be so early to fire while your other fleet fires like 3 seconds later wasting a lot of output dmg unless your other ships does have the same gun

[unique lantern]

i do have another one of these left if you meant that

[zenith heron]

That gun yes

[soft raft]

May as well since you lack better options
406 Mk6 is also one of the best HE BB guns you can use until you make 406 Mk7s

[unique lantern]

guns from research and especially lab are such a long grind 😭

how long does it take to make a ur gun in lab on average? 3 months?

[reef flume]

I made my MK7 in two months

Depends how much you grind OpSi

[unique lantern]

😔 i do at least 200 ap daily since last months opsi start

[reef flume]

I'd recommend you to use the other plan

[soft raft]

Yeah don't craft the Mk7 from the Mk6

[reef flume]

The one that uses the gold AP gun

[reef flume]

It's quicker

[zenith heron]

OpSi is the main way to get UR stuff, don't be like me not doing OpSi

[unique lantern]

i wish i knew that before i came here every few weeks asking stupid questions 😂

[lone knoll]

opsi is fun as hell too

[unique lantern]

faster but i still only have 3/9 ur gear thingies

[modern depot]

Howe is my favourite ship so I want to use her, I know I should pair her with Doy but are there any other highly recommended ships I should use with her? I have vanguard and implacable. Are there vanguard fleet ships that are good to use with HMS?

[lone knoll]

u can buy these they give u 1 a pop i think

[unique lantern]

are they hard to run tho? i've got a decent fleet but im struggling with the higher opsi contents

[reef flume]

Reason why it takes at least two months to make an UR gun

[lone knoll]

the stage that gives the ur gear design is c6, so yeah if u dont have adap or high level ships can be hard

[boreal temple]

You can heal

It's annoying to heal every fight but hey at least you won't be fighting with low hp

[feral crest]

I genuinely don't know what I'm doing in this game. Is this a good formation?

[boreal temple]

insert obligatory faction fleet bad statement here

[stark quiver]

no

[unique lantern]

are you preparing to clean a mansion?

[boreal temple]

It works but it's not a good fleet

[eager mulch]

shit fleet

[zenith heron]

Faction fleets are bad, and for mob fleet I pressume?

[feral crest]

Yeah

[boreal temple]

And please just do unicorn instead of percy

[soft raft]

Ngl even if you were gonna faction fleet, Unicorn retrofit would've been better than Perseus

[feral crest]

Dang

[eager mulch]

no tank, no bb intercept, faction fleet, weak flag, dead on arrival

[boreal temple]

Don't get me wrong adding uni instead of percy will make it a ton better but it's still shit

[zenith heron]

For the long run its not a good one sadly, you can last this till worlds 11-12 (just get a Unicorn Retro)

[wind hazel]

but it's a maid squad

[feral crest]

I love the maids...

Why can't they be good...

[boreal temple]

At least get the good maids

[zenith heron]

Skills are probably subpar

[boreal temple]

jervis sits idly by

[unique lantern]

which one? all of them?

[boreal temple]

All of those

[lone knoll]

all of them give u 1 ur gear BUT its 1 time only

[unique lantern]

aight lemme give them a try

[lone knoll]

each file is 10 areas

[jaunty vault]

1 UR gear design plan*

[lone knoll]

costs 0 ap too

[unique lantern]

wait, the item isnt in my storage and the mission is not in my port missions log, where do i find out which zone its in

[lone knoll]

has a blue icon on the map

[tame jungle]

check missions/the map

[lone knoll]

that helped me to get wyvern

can someone show me a team that is able to auto strongholds?

rainbow?? oh ur

[boreal temple]

Yes

[fluid brook]

Musashi Uni Fdg Hinde Unzen Mogador, thats what i use

[lone knoll]

okay its all UR's okok

[fluid brook]

No, Uni is not UR

[still nest]

How the fuck 12-2H is much harder than 12-4H

[boreal temple]

I use the same now only difference is I do laffii instead of mog

[lone knoll]

she might aswell be she's so good

[boreal temple]

Get some AA

[zenith heron]

Best ship be like

[fluid brook]

agree, but she isnt

[lone knoll]

who is the 1st and 5th?

[eager mulch]

boss vanguard is weak as fuck

[still nest]

At second fleet?

[fluid brook]

Akagiu and Harbin

[boreal temple]

Yea you kinda lack AA on your boss fleet