gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

or try and build faction fleets period

[weary gust]

Factions don't really have specific ship types. You can't generalize them that well.

[forest palm]

even British CVs are a head scratcher

[viscid swift]

actually, Dork would be best if you're running 2 other UR BBs

[weary gust]

There's some trends with some faction stuff, like IJN torps from planes converging or USS vanguards typically having two gun slots instead of a torp slot, but they're not unique to them.

[forest palm]

like the Brits only have Imp, Vanny, Percy, and Unicorn after that most other main fleet ships can be forgotten

[weary gust]

Where did you get this graphic from?

[neon finch]

future team?

[soft raft]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

[viscid swift]

fleet tech tracker

[neon finch]

(lyon replaced with amagi

[viscid swift]

bad

[soft raft]

Pretty scuffed
What content is this for?
And I hope that Amagi is MLB, esp if it's the CV one

[neon finch]

(future)

[viscid swift]

rule of thumb, if I can't tell what a fleet is for that's usually not a good sign

[weary gust]

How am I only just now learning about this. Would have made my life easier when I was doing DD FP tech ...

[neon finch]

dont have musashi so idk should i mlb amagi rn

[viscid swift]

so what exactly is this boss fleet for

[neon finch]

stronghold

[viscid swift]

yeah no

[keen sable]

you should have much better

[viscid swift]

your mob fleet would be doing strongholds which would automatically include Unicorn

[weary gust]

Also, Brest (or any CB) should be in the front vanguard position.

[soft raft]

that 1LB lvl 58 shimakaze is also dead in the water instantly

[viscid swift]

also if you can't MLB Shima anytime soon drop her

[soft raft]

Dont spread out your UR bullins as well
you should've committed to MLB Shimakaze or not limit break her at all

[neon finch]

at any time just considering between shima and othe ur ships

[keen sable]

don't spread out sparks

[neon finch]

have 6 bullins rn

[weary gust]

Shima is pretty low mlb priority.

[viscid swift]

Shima would be close to the bottom of any list for limit breaking URs

[neon finch]

shima need 2

[soft raft]

what other URs do you have?

[sweet delta]

better maintained fleet tech tracker https://azurlane.mrlar.dev/db/tracker

[viscid swift]

is this one not buggy

[soft raft]

no she needs 3 more
She's only LB1

[weary gust]

Amagi CV and Shinano

[keen sable]

^

[little tree]

Is Sirius in perma pool ?

[neon finch]

i think

[topaz smelt]

Filters don't seem to work properly

[viscid swift]

Shinano and Amagi CV would first and after that Guam

[little tree]

Should I use the anny invite to get Sirius

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Sirius

[coarse heron]

She’s useful for CV fleets

[weary gust]

Use invites to get who you don't have.

[keen sable]

what server?

[neon finch]

no good planes at all

[soft raft]

she is not in the construction pools
only in medal shop

[little tree]

Little enterprise NA

[weary gust]

Poverty planes are functional and will do just fine until w14, that's when you'll need good gear.

For opsi strongholds poverty planes will work too on UR CVs.

[forest palm]

can't even multi select ships, not redoing everything 🚮

[soft raft]

ah double CV in your shop
Then yeah you can go ahead use that invite on Sirius

[elder parcel]

ok, my problem was: not using musashi, lack of FS5 on shimanto and swap brest for guam
first attempt and managed to kill all mobs using only mob fleet
uni died on last mob but that's fine

[weary gust]

Don't celebrate until you actually beat the boss.

[topaz smelt]

A lot of problems with the site in terms of functionality

Idk how you see this better than retro

[forest palm]

ya that one Suchi posted is bleh, it's missing a lot of features the other one does

[little tree]

Done

[topaz smelt]

You gotta be on crack to think it's better

[viscid swift]

is it just me or is there no easy way to tell which ships are maxed and which are not

[forest palm]

the tracker has a nice concept, but it's missing a lot

better my ass, looks pretty an that's it

[viscid swift]

yep

[storm heron]

haha this one

[elder parcel]

thanks to y'all tho, now i don't have to bring 15-3 down to safe

[storm heron]

ermm what a waste of exp

[topaz smelt]

I prefer the simplicity of retro, even tho I don't use it

[forest palm]

retro's is a touch buggy, but ya there's more accessbility, and features

[sweet delta]

red green colorblind?

[topaz smelt]

Showing only obtain tech doesnt help either

[viscid swift]

I just now noticed but man is this thing so clunky

[topaz smelt]

A bit

[forest palm]

somewhat

[sweet delta]

at least it doesn't do this i guess

[viscid swift]

why are hull filters at the bottom when they're probably going to more of the well-used ones, why is there no way to change how many ships are displayed in a row, and not that it was that important, but it doesn't show how many cogs you need to 120 everything

[forest palm]

that's easy to fix though

[topaz smelt]

Deselecting a filter doesn't unhighlight it, prob a mobile issue

Stig with a single complaint thinks a clunky site is better, can't tell if yt clickbait is leaking

[forest palm]

[topaz smelt]

No view all option either

[sweet delta]

@boreal wagon ship icons are also too big (row size should fix it)

[weary gust]

As someone who has used neither for more than 20 seconds, the first one (retro) was easier to understand the UI at least.

[topaz smelt]

I'd imagine this loads a lot more assets than retro

[viscid swift]

the full summary is nice to have, I'll give it that but other than that this is just objectively worse

also the import feature doesn't work properly, every ship that has a retro wasn't properly handled from the old one

[stark quiver]

personally i find it to be fine, but everythings just kinda enlarged

[forest palm]

do these look good

[viscid swift]

I mean it's functional, but it's not really an improvement over the old site which kinda defeats the purpose of having created it in the first place

[forest palm]

not bothing to gear with La9 in mind

[topaz smelt]

Is the data stored in the url?

[viscid swift]

looks fine

[topaz smelt]

Every change I make is added to my browser history

[sweet delta]

it may be improved in the future unlike the old one

[forest palm]

retro's aside from the bugs is fine though...

[topaz smelt]

Stig sounds like the project is as dead as his guides

[storm heron]

I like the skin filter here

[forest palm]

like I said, it looks pretty, and that's it

[topaz smelt]

All it really does is adds to the clunk

[storm heron]

Does the retro tech tracker keep track?

[viscid swift]

yes

[forest palm]

if you want to show something off be prepared for people to be critical of it

[topaz smelt]

Mebot went thru worse

[storm heron]

yeah my history is full of the site

[viscid swift]

I think it looks bad to be honest compared to Retro's

[stark quiver]

i prefer simpler Uis

[storm heron]

retro UI kinda have the ingame UI vibes

[plain saffron]

using ingame ui looks good as an idea but end up making thing worse

[topaz smelt]

Not a fan of how it kicks any selected ship to the bottom of the list instead of it remaining in place

[viscid swift]

I actually like that to be honest, helps keep in view of what needs working on still

[topaz smelt]

And data needs to be cached somewhere and not be stored in url

[storm heron]

yeah mayb a bit too much movement on the sorting part

[topaz smelt]

Only upside I see is how easy it is to set the status

Also needs both tech instead of just obtained

[viscid swift]

it has both

[topaz smelt]

I only see 1

[storm heron]

how do I scroll this down

[viscid swift]

120 is at the top of the portrait, on obtain is at the bottom

[forest palm]

it's tucked at the bottom left of the portrait

[topaz smelt]

I only saw the bottom one

Prob shove them together and label it

[little tree]

If I have nano oath should I oath Haku as well since they are a synergy?

[sweet delta]

Amagi is essentially a better haku

[little tree]

Ahh

[storm heron]

will amagi be a better shina?

[topaz smelt]

Is amagi better in l/m

[sweet delta]

For solo yes she is far more flexible in armor and reload, though Shinano may be better on heavy sometimes if 3 IJN (but you would just use both)

[vale halo]

where can i get 533m Improved Quadruple Magnetic Torpedo Mount?

[sweet delta]

Event limited

[vale halo]

freak now i missed one of the best homing torp....

[soft raft]

Eh you'll live

if people lived with the regular quad mags just fine for the 4-5 years before the improved version came out, you can too

[hollow gust]

, the best torp ship barley uses it

[soft dagger]

Do I simply multiply the certain speed unit by 0.6 to get the /s speed in-game?

[sweet delta]

no

the speed shown in game is the speed

you don't need to know "units" per second, but to get that you would indeed multiply by 0.6

[forest palm]

are you talking about the stat on gear that says 20 something seconds?

[sweet delta]

and sometimes you even have to multiply by another 10

[soft dagger]

if i want to know the travel time of torpedo with 3 velocity, how should i calculate it?

[sweet delta]

3 * 10 * 0.6 units per second, but then do you know how big a unit is?

[soft dagger]

no, can you teach me pls?

[sweet delta]

go into a battle with only twin 130mm AA gun, and that radius is 35 units

[soft dagger]

[soft dagger]

And what does 10 represents?

[sweet delta]

nothing

[soft dagger]

oh it's just coded that way?

[sweet delta]

the devs just decided to put 3 instead of 30 for bullet/torpedo speed

30 would be on the same scale as ship speed

[soft dagger]

ohh okay

thank you very much for explaining

[pale wigeon]

Need help with my boss fleet. Can auto the mob fleet with fleet 1 but can't with fleet 2 on 14-4

[topaz smelt]

Lacks bb

Prob swap bz with nano

[sweet delta]

change Ark to a BB, put BB in flag, and get rid of kazagumo for another tank or tank support

like just swap volga with bisz too

[viscid swift]

use Unicorn instead of Perseus and swap NJ and Volga

the BBs go flagship

also, Laffey 2 off tanks

[sweet delta]

is it on safe threat?

[viscid swift]

also dare I ask what gear you're using

[pale wigeon]

What about air control requirement?

[viscid swift]

those fleets should be getting rid if ambushes

[sweet delta]

you do not need 4 carriers to reach air supremacy on 14-4 clearing mode

[viscid swift]

and you should have good enough ACV with the changes

did you manually clear W14 or something

[topaz smelt]

Full CV clears is def doable

Not recommended obv

[pale wigeon]

I did 14-4 Manuel with this fleet I have it 3 stars

[viscid swift]

yeah I figured as much

[pale wigeon]

Farming for the ssr

[viscid swift]

because frankly just on ships you should have been able to quite comfortably first cleared using auto

but you've built your fleets poorly and I rather suspect gear is a bit lacking as well

[coarse heron]

I need to make a 14-3 fleet eventually

[topaz smelt]

I have a perma lethal FC fleet somewhere

Somewhere on Sam's discord and don't want to dig it up

[coarse heron]

maybe I should make a thread once my 12-4 runs are done

[viscid swift]

FDG, Shinano, Unicorn, Brest, Kazagumo, Plymouth wasn't it

[topaz smelt]

Prob something like that

[coarse heron]

before I make it, there's no Elites worth using on W14, right? I can filter out elite?

[topaz smelt]

ARAs are kinda worth mentioning but not really

[viscid swift]

the closest I can think is Yat Sen if you're lacking on tanks

[topaz smelt]

Hamm

[viscid swift]

but that's about it

[hollow gust]

shes gold now too

[coarse heron]

yeah I got like 5+ tanks

[hollow gust]

i prefer yatsen is over CBs in w14 mob :)

[topaz smelt]

I prefer anch

[forest palm]

world 14 doesn't take that much

[topaz smelt]

~~it really doesn't ~~

[hollow gust]

Plymouth

[topaz smelt]

Ply does it all

[coarse heron]

yeah I 3 starred 14-2 on lethal, but 14-3 pushed my shit in so I probably just had the wrong combo of ships

[forest palm]

I remember using Drake for Mob, and Agir for Boss

[topaz smelt]

Drekgud

[storm heron]

drek mentioned

[coarse heron]

I do have the Rapper Drake at Dev30

[forest palm]

it's kind of shit, but it does the job

[coarse heron]

I'm still taking pictures hold on

[topaz smelt]

I prob need to retest fleets with spearfish

[forest palm]

does fog not interfere with SF Rockets?

[topaz smelt]

It does but I think not enough to brick it

[forest palm]

ah, alright

[topaz smelt]

Iirc the repair ships don't get stealth

[stark quiver]

i remember running agir,jda,ancho for 14-4 boss
only god knows what i ran for mob

[coarse heron]

W14 fleet

[stark quiver]

is it possible to search for a thread by user?

[pale wigeon]

What I am currently using as gear

[stark quiver]

for w14?

[storm heron]

thread

[pale wigeon]

Ya for general building I guess

[coarse heron]

take a look at my thread help me out for W14

[stark quiver]

and yes put it in a thread, no such thing as genera;

[topaz smelt]

I see a lot of terrible gear choices already

[storm heron]

someone mentioned "shit in w14"?

[topaz smelt]

Who?

[forest palm]

almost like I said world 14 doesn't take that much

[storm heron]

at least taz has sashi there haha

[signal pollen]

why can't other bbs compare to bis zwei damage? it it because of her dragon beam skill?

[storm heron]

idk if her dragon beam skill what makes her particularly good, but maybe ship good cuz of math and testing

[forest palm]

ya, but that shit is like from 2022 it main as well be ancient at this point

[pale wigeon]

Thanks for helping by the way

[sweet delta]

where did you get that from?

[pale wigeon]

I hot mostly all the ships except for the pr ones

I got mostly all the ships except for the pr ones

[signal pollen]

I just look at the damage she does compared to my vanguard and nj and she beats them by a longshot

[stark quiver]

u should make thread, and someone will help make fleet better

[sweet delta]

well NJ is the oldest gacha UR BB and Vanguard is a lot more support

[signal pollen]

oh. maybe I messed up

Thanks for the info and help

[coarse heron]

I've often heard "NJ is the worst UR BB not named Warspite but she's still a UR BB"

[topaz smelt]

Lately for me it's been a toss up between NJ and uvh

[viscid swift]

can you just start a thread because man this needs a lot of work

[wet badge]

Yo from what i read nj isnt that bad

[viscid swift]

she's fine but questionable from an investment perspective

[coarse heron]

yeah she's good but most if not all of the other UR BBs are better

that's the point

[versed forum]

Which is better?

[boreal wagon]

the import should would, multiple people have tested it, it's simply that retropaint does not export the whole dataset if you do not deactivate all filters

[wet badge]

But shes alot better than sr bbs right

[coarse heron]

PomPom sucks due to range

[viscid swift]

it worked when I deactivated the "use retrofit portrait" setting

seems a bit strange that it doesn't work even with it active but that's the least of my concerns right now

[coarse heron]

Yeah make no mistake she’s better than every SSR BB

she’s basically “the worst supercar”

[sweet delta]

better but not a lot better

[sweet delta]

gold AA guns are better than purple AA guns, that gold AA gun is one of the worst, but it appears that you don't have many gold

[boreal wagon]

feel free to scroll to the footer and use the issue tracker to submit all ur feedback - ill get to it when i have time

[viscid swift]

alright

[topaz smelt]

Are you storing the data in the url?

[boreal wagon]

as in the actual data of what u track? no

just filters for convenience

[topaz smelt]

Well somethings being stored in the url and is bloating browser history

[boreal wagon]

filters are

[versed forum]

ok thanks I only have 1 gold bofor my luck is shit I'm still not getting any good aa is 127mm aa good enough replacement?

[sweet delta]

just use your highest enhanced gold and purple guns, you don't need much AA early

[topaz smelt]

Well I left my feedback on it

[wet badge]

Whats difference between med and regular event

[sweet delta]

the name

[wet badge]

Ok

[opaque gate]

what is the best bb aux gun to use for destroying suicide boats?

[forest palm]

Quad 152

[sweet delta]

assuming it's not chapter 14

[opaque gate]

thanks

[soft raft]

(And if you cant afford those two, 155 for outside of W14, 155 Kai for W14)

[coarse heron]

I thought Nepgun was best CL aux for BBs

[opaque gate]

where can i get it?

[viscid swift]

you thought wrong

[coarse heron]

tier list lied to me

[storm heron]

what's in w14?

[sweet delta]

Kagerou productions with 10k HP and a shield

[soft raft]

IE Bulkier suicide boats

[soft raft]

which gun?

[wet badge]

Shouldnt b a problem w fdg right

[broken chasm]

are helena and helena meta a good pair to be carried together? and which else should I carry?

[soft raft]

if you give her the proper gun sure

[soft raft]

Helena META doesnt really see much mainline use, sure you can use both of them together, but why
also who you use in your fleet is heavily context dependent, there's no one size fits all comp to beat all of the game's content

[opaque gate]

both of them, or which is more accessible especially for lvl 82

[jaunty vault]

still can't get used to blaster pfp change after 345 years

[late flame]

and its the same pfp only inverse

[viscid swift]

neither is really accessible...

[broken chasm]

I see, well I am trying to build two teams for the main story for now, I am on chapter 10

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_155mm_(3rd_Year_Type)#Type_3-0
that would be your accessible option

[opaque gate]

thanks

[sweet delta]

would on lethal or out of ammo

[willow dock]

Do I want converging torps on amagi CV?

[jaunty vault]

sometimes

[viscid swift]

against a single boss with a freeze yes

[soft raft]

depends on the context

[willow dock]

Sounds about right

Can normal ammunition start fires?

[sweet delta]

some can, very rare

[soft dagger]

All plane bombs scale at 80% AVI right? Or do certain bombs exist?

[sweet delta]

all current equippable gear have 80% avi bombs if you exclude rockets from bombs

[soft dagger]

Thank you sushi

Is the ship level impacting the airplane hp?

[coarse heron]

should I use my precious electronics to actually craft any Roombas

probably not, right?

[soft dagger]

you can get that from boxes

[coarse heron]

and yet I only have 4
nah yeah doesn't seem very smart, I was going to do it but then I saw it was 21 and that sounds like a bad deal

not Sea Hornet levels of bad deal, but up there

[topaz smelt]

You don't need that many

[coarse heron]

yeah I'll just wait until the Royal Tech boxes gift me some more

[topaz smelt]

By you don't need that many I mean there's better and higher prio

[coarse heron]

I'm willing to try any bad idea once, and that includes "3 roombas for vanguard in W14"

[soft dagger]

idr w14 being plane heavy

[topaz smelt]

You don't need much AA in 14, may be a little on boss

[viscid swift]

it's my default braindead option

you really only have 4 Roombas?

[topaz smelt]

Have ppl here caught on the backline Roomba tech yet

[viscid swift]

I remember an early W15 CN comp using it....

[coarse heron]

amazingly enough yes
I have a gorillion Quad Bofors and multiple Stags and Heyzers

[soft dagger]

i did, for w13 hard

[coarse heron]

but only 4 Roombas

[viscid swift]

uhh I guess Shima and Drake get Quads then

[topaz smelt]

Ye it's pretty much just a range supplement

[sweet delta]

one w15 comp using it doesn't mean much when w15 is very easy with a stacked account

[coarse heron]

I do have the Twin 100mm Type 98 for range supplement as well, granted it's only 32 range

[jaunty vault]

get stacked with twin57s today

[viscid swift]

I know it doesn't, that's just the only place I've seen it used

[topaz smelt]

The difference is understanding why it's used rather than just parrot

Also I'm fucking lost, wtf am i

[viscid swift]

I figured that was what it's use was, just not sure if it was actually useful for what they were trying to do with it

[topaz smelt]

Range is good for catching planes go figure

[jaunty vault]

you're in ALO gph, you're a nerd

[coarse heron]

honestly my worry with 3 Roombas for vanguard is the reload for the AA shots becoming so high it misses entire waves of planes

[topaz smelt]

I'm lost in akiha

[sweet delta]

it won't

[viscid swift]

yeah but the whole range vs DPS thing, I'm not in the mood to go down that rabbit hole though

[jaunty vault]

that means you're also an otaku

[topaz smelt]

It's a shit hole that won't make any sense

[viscid swift]

planes are not that frequent in W14

[coarse heron]

how do you even get lost in Akihabara it's like 8 streets

[topaz smelt]

I walked straight in 1 direction don't see anime

[coarse heron]

it's over

[viscid swift]

But yes this is the brain dead solution

[coarse heron]

I got 2 of these to put on Drake and Shima

[topaz smelt]

Im pretty sure full rainbow is suboptimal

[sweet delta]

what a boomer, more 57mms and more +13 hinden guns than i

[viscid swift]

that also works

[coarse heron]

32 range so still better than Quad Bofors

[slow fox]

Hello. Misinformation spreader Mebot (MSM) here. 160% your vanguard eHP.

[viscid swift]

of course not full rainbows

[jaunty vault]

I've got more 57s than that

[viscid swift]

just majority

[coarse heron]

...I better make sure I actually have a homing bacon

[stark quiver]

a\re those AAs just from just bps from drops

[viscid swift]

nope

[coarse heron]

oh good I do

[stark quiver]

oh selectors?

[viscid swift]

yep

[stark quiver]

how many years of it? like 3-4~ years of active opsi yea?

[coarse heron]

is the Twin 57 really worth using 60 electronics on

[stark quiver]

if you need them yea

[sweet delta]

wait til you get your 🍑 spanked by chapter 15

[coarse heron]

[viscid swift]

let's see, started giving a shit about OpSi when I needed to clear W14 so about 3 years

but I wasn't active 100% during that time

[stark quiver]

damn so thats what 3 years of grinding does

[jaunty vault]

at some point, you stop caring about opsi mats

[coarse heron]

electronics are the only one that ever runs out cause everything good is like "I need 21+ of these"

I got over a thousand of the rest

[jaunty vault]

cause the more equips you craft, the less you need to craft and then the mats just stack

[topaz smelt]

Expect another livers worth for tenrais

[stark quiver]

finally somewhere to use my plane bps
until they make it t3 ords

[viscid swift]

thats copium to think it'll be anything but T3 ords

[stark quiver]

haha

[coarse heron]

T3 Ords are why I haven't made a Georgia gun yet

[storm heron]

make even more wyverns for support fleet

[coarse heron]

I swear sometimes OpSi has so much delay
like during auto search the fleet will move 3 tiles then genuinely sit for upwards of 6 seconds before moving again

and other times it's instant
baffles me

[viscid swift]

it's best to just not look

[stark quiver]

click and forget
i usually spend the time typing essays

[slow fox]

Keyboard user spotted. Eliminate.

[sharp socket]

its picking up hidden stuff that you cant see

[coarse heron]

hidden resource nodes still show up on the minimap.

[sharp socket]

maybe its collecting adapts

[coarse heron]

screen flashes when it does that

[opaque gate]

if the map is secured already, should i still kill siren mobs?

[coarse heron]

Yes it's the only way the map can respawn

[slow fox]

Calculating next best path from available nodes. Very hard problem in optimization.

[opaque gate]

okay, thanks

[coarse heron]

a bad sort algorithim does seem most likely

[slow fox]

Yostar small indie company IF(IF(IF(IF(IF(IF(IF(IF(IF(...

[stark quiver]

indie game please understand

[coarse heron]

ah yes the Yandere Dev solution

[stark quiver]

ew python

[slow fox]

Wrong that was MSBasic

[stark quiver]

too used to if else

[coarse heron]

Basic doesn't use brackets.

[sweet delta]

it's none of that, it's slow when the game was open for too long or you had a breif disconnection/sleep. Restart game makes opsi go fast again

[coarse heron]

I've noticed sometimes if I reopen the game the game lags so hard I have to restart the game

[sinful elk]

Chat who usually go with Vanguard for syncing

[sharp socket]

anyone cause shes the fastest

[stark quiver]

i use zwei and alsace

[sharp socket]

if she somehow isnt fast enough you can use hsfcr on her

[soft raft]

Besides UR BBs?
As long as all three BBs have the same gun (or at least guns with the same timings) and HSFCr if you're using SG radar Helena

[sinful elk]

I use the same gun(champy) for NJ Alsace and Vanny, but in the challenge mode from the 6th salvo everything messed up real bad

[viscid swift]

for CM you need to Employ a different strat

[sharp socket]

also if you want to use 457s for meta fight you can use autoloader + hsfcr for vanny

[viscid swift]

the order has to be Alsace, NJ, Vanguard if you want it to remain synced for that long

[sharp socket]

vanny will fire 4 salvos first in meta fight and kind of jams the rest

[sinful elk]

i uhh dont have soyuz

[sharp socket]

im pretty sure this works with almost every UR BB so itll be fine

[sinful elk]

What does that mean?

[viscid swift]

the firing order

Alsace fires first, then NJ, and finally Vanguard

[sharp socket]

i dunno if bzwei will work though cause shes also pretty fast

[sinful elk]

that sounds weird but uhh okay

[viscid swift]

you're using Jamming to your advantage here

by reversing the firing order of who reloads the quickest, you prevent the faster BBs from getting ahead and thus desyncing

[stark quiver]

wait cheeky elaborate pls

[viscid swift]

like you saw when you had Vanguard fire first

[sinful elk]

that's interesting

[viscid swift]

BBs can only store one Salvo with the exception of Alsace

[sinful elk]

though my NJ usually fire last so do i put her above alsace firing order

[viscid swift]

so they can't start loading their next salvo until they fire off the one the already have loaded

[sharp socket]

im more curious about how you reverse the firing order to make the fastest ship fire last

[viscid swift]

which becomes an issue when you have BBs reloading so close together

they jam each other and thus pushing back reload times of the slower BBs causing desync

this is very noticable in a long fight like CM

[viscid swift]

no Alsace goes first

you can't hold back Alsace because she can store 2 BB salvos

[viscid swift]

using different guns and timing auxes like fire control radars and auto loaders if need be

[sinful elk]

doesn't that will significantly reduce the dmg though?

[stark quiver]

itll prevent desync a lot, using the buffs to their advantage

[viscid swift]

depends on the set up but the alternate of letting them desync is usually worse

[topaz smelt]

Not getting an extra shot or missing a timing will lose a lot more

[sinful elk]

Btw now that I got 3 wyverns what should i go for next in lab

[dusky vale]

is there a generally accepted tier list that i can refer to so that i dont have to come here

[topaz smelt]

Save for tenrai

[sinful elk]

Is this a fr moment

[storm heron]

-tierlist

[topaz smelt]

Idk what you have

[sinful elk]

I just freshly crafted a wyvern soo maybe I hope tenrai doesn't use much ur bp

[storm heron]

bot broken moment woops

[jaunty vault]

this isn't ectl

[topaz smelt]

Not yet it aint

[stark quiver]

rice reforms era

[topaz smelt]

~~im trying but cn keeps taking over somehow ~~

[storm heron]

what should I do to make izumo usable as 13-4 boss flag?

[jaunty vault]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List by Rice#7016 & Slime#2203
🔹'Samvaluation' event ships' evaluations by samheart564#4031
🔹CN tier list by NGA

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[viscid swift]

equipping her well, get her to FS5 and crafting her aug

[jaunty vault]

generally accepted as long as you know how to read

[storm heron]

can I get away with not fs5?

[viscid swift]

which means it's bad

[topaz smelt]

13 isn't hard enough where you need perfect fleets

[viscid swift]

you can but may as well go the full mile

[coarse heron]

If you're using Izumo you might as well get her FS5

[jaunty vault]

most people don't know how to read

[topaz smelt]

time to change to Chinese so ppl won't have to read

[storm heron]

for context, she will replace this tenesee here

[viscid swift]

do you really have no one better already leveled

[coarse heron]

bro why is Eldridge tanking

[storm heron]

if I put shimanto tank, you won't be able to see chi's level

[coarse heron]

valid reason

[storm heron]

cvs I guess, the rest of bb rld is kinda ashs

[viscid swift]

is this for farming

[coarse heron]

you can always just change to the info view

[viscid swift]

and 13-4 and not 12-4

[storm heron]

need chips and coins

[keen sable]

Nearly anything is better than Tennessee so good job on making an improvement

[viscid swift]

which 12-4 gives

[stark quiver]

but my +1 bb rld

[viscid swift]

and you have much less stringent requirements for both fleets

[storm heron]

but errmm, 12% more coins and almost twice the cogs

[wind hazel]

just try it

[stark quiver]

and harder requirements, meaning you level less shitters and need to waste some xp

[viscid swift]

12% more coins how exactly

twice the cogs also sounds a bit sus

[coarse heron]

not worth it since you need real ships and not "12 warm bodies"

[storm heron]

izumo's 96, book cost 100, can't fsV before 100 lol

[wind hazel]

well then you have your answers. lv96 izumo won't cut it

[storm heron]

idk I read the pins

maybe not twice the cogs, more close to 150%

[coarse heron]

it's also 392 oil per run versus 317

it's more coins per oil spent but you need better ships so you're wasting XP

[viscid swift]

and you think throwing away a good chunk of XP because you need to run carries for 13-4, on top of longer and less consistent clears is worth that

[storm heron]

alright, 12% more coins/oil (6.3 to 7.2) and 50% morre cogs

[coarse heron]

12-4 you can bring literal level 70 ships to it and they'll live if there's ships that are level 110+ (literally any ship no carries needed)

[late flame]

or corpse drag lv1s

[keen sable]

Who knows what mob is. That's a gigachad boss fleet though

[coarse heron]

you can bring level 70s to 12-4 boss fleet too

[storm heron]

everyone useful for w15 and harby

[coarse heron]

you need like, 3 ships to kill the 12-4 boss, realistically
the other 3 can be carried

[late flame]

or 2 if boss is in sub range

[viscid swift]

I don't know how desperate you are for coins exactly but the jump from 12-4 to 13-4 will not be covering it

[storm heron]

california aquila amagi bayard harbin mog all level 110

[coarse heron]

the boss never spawns in sub range on 12-4 afaik

[late flame]

it does but like 1/6 of the time kek

[coarse heron]

unless I'm really unlucky

[late flame]

its how i have both wolves and fishes levelled to 125

[viscid swift]

Or just do 12-1 and you can do that for the boss fleet

[coarse heron]

the subs I use are all 120 (and 96 is getting dorm leveled) so I just have subs sent to hunt on 12-4 instead of called

[storm heron]

welp it is what it is then, folks this is why you don't level all good ships at once

[storm heron]

yeah lvl 95 ships worked for 12-2

[stark quiver]

grinding sub tech

[sharp socket]

u can just try 13-4 and see where it gets you

[late flame]

i do farm 13-4 when my backline are all cv

[keen sable]

Which is exactly what they are doing except in 13-4. Hence gigachad. I think you should just do what you are already so successful at and ignore everyone here.

[coarse heron]

GPH follows the late Confucion principle of XP maximalism

[storm heron]

I tried before when alsace was in flag

so I just asked here before I wasted 300s oil on mob only to not be able clear boss

[late flame]

i read it as confusing principle of xp cannibalism

[viscid swift]

they're literally asking what can be used in place of Tennesee, the boss fleet is clearly failing

[coarse heron]

300 oil is just one overnight comm, nothing ventured, nothing gained

dead weeks are the best time to experiment, anyway

[sharp socket]

you get like 800 oil passively by just going to bed

[coarse heron]

I've spent 3k oil fucking around in W13 in the past

running obviously bad fleets to see what I can push them to

[wind hazel]

this is stupid

[topaz smelt]

I burnt like 100k+ testing fleets when new content comes out

[coarse heron]

hoarding oil is just self-administered CBT

[viscid swift]

wha

[sharp socket]

measuring contest in gph

[topaz smelt]

Idk what this is about I just got out a maid cafe

[viscid swift]

literally just farm W12, it's easy, consistent, and braindead pretty much, very little to go wrong and consistent results

[coarse heron]

which one did you go to

[topaz smelt]

No clue, can't read the name

[coarse heron]

based

[sharp socket]

guys go to offtopic unless maid cafes are related to gph

[coarse heron]

No

[topaz smelt]

Someone mod this guy

[coarse heron]

For added bonus, read everything I type in Dale Gribble's voice

[jaunty vault]

where's thorin when you need him

[storm heron]

I didn't realize shimanto was maxed, can I replace her with this?

[viscid swift]

for 13-4 probably not

[vale spindle]

if this is chapter 12 you can replace her with anything lvl 100+ maybe even lower too if mlb

[storm heron]

I'll try, 300 oil is nothing

[sharp socket]

just dont level in 13-4

[jaunty vault]

just ignore the max levels for boss fleet

[storm heron]

billy good uss cl

[sharp socket]

better to level 6 ships in 12-4 than only 2-3 in 13-4 because of AA requirements

[storm heron]

yeah you're right, though I'm in a position where it's either 6 ships in 12-4 or 5 in 13-4

[keen sable]

Dw they're down to twoone carries in boss fleet only. What could go wrong.

[wind hazel]

do 13-1

[sharp socket]

for boss fleet just rainbow spam and only use mob for leveling

[viscid swift]

a lot

or yeah, 13-1 would also be a better spot

[sharp socket]

i dont even use boss for leveling in 12-4 and just use CF spam

[storm heron]

what about one fleetjng with this?

[sharp socket]

death

[viscid swift]

you're not killing Taiho out of ammo with that

[keen sable]

Only one way to find out

[forest palm]

CA is just gonna fold

[viscid swift]

let alone after 7 mob fights

[late flame]

it'd be fun to watch

[jaunty vault]

that'd suffer even with ammo

[sharp socket]

i think he’ll do it no matter what and comes back to ask again after failing

[storm heron]

amagi good cv though

[viscid swift]

your AA is bad and your Flagship is basically made of paper

most likely Cali just dies from plane spam and your fleet fails cause you have your flag sunk

even if Cali wasn't flag you're still lacking AA and damage to take such a fight

[storm heron]

oyea bad AA

[late flame]

good ship cant save a bad fleet setup

[coarse heron]

isn't California one of the absolute worst BBs too, only beaten by like, Conte?

[keen sable]

just roll every double gun

[late flame]

they are both good for one thing only : BB RLD

[storm heron]

idk if juneau worth 125

[late flame]

worth if you like pvp

[viscid swift]

if you're gonna insist of leveling stuff in 13-4, they need to be able to handle themselves or you need to build the rest of the fleet to carry them through

[coarse heron]

I did Shiranui 125 as a meme

[storm heron]

eldkai kicks her out unfortunately

[late flame]

not really

[viscid swift]

my suggestion, you either drop down to an easier map or forget about trying to squeeze so much XP from the boss fleet

[late flame]

but then this is not #pvp so

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, this one of the many reasons why we reccomend 12-4 as the farming spot

[storm heron]

I heard aurora worth 125

[viscid swift]

Aurora is not carrying that boss fleet through Taiho

[late flame]

if you are forming anti-light cv yes but not in 13-4 certainly

[obsidian ivy]

Id only level in 13-4 when the ships are strong and like 110+...

[coarse heron]

already time to speedrun 0 morale, 12-4 with combat plans

[storm heron]

so izumo would have had a chance if I fatesimmed her, got it then

[viscid swift]

not much of a chance even if she is much better

the level disadvantage is just too much and that's which Shimanto as a carry in there still

[storm heron]

right, enemy level 115

[viscid swift]

at minimum you'd want 3 main fleets that are all good at at least level 110-115

[sharp socket]

this is like the minimum id be comfortable with for 13-4 and youd still need decent ships for the other 2 frontline slots

[storm heron]

ong why is taiho such a pain to deal with

[viscid swift]

and even then I'd still want an AA carry in there for safety

[storm heron]

yo yoo isn't that too much even if 5% sig level?

[coarse heron]

she's not, you just have to bring real ships and not corpses

[keen sable]

because your ships and strategy and tactics suck

[storm heron]

it's like 0.05% sig level confidence

[sharp socket]

what the hell is a sig level

[obsidian ivy]

Why bother optimising the boss fleet for xp anyway, just bring a big boy fleet and run her down

[viscid swift]

you're trying to force random garbage through 13-4, that simply does not work

[coarse heron]

boss fleet I totally understand just bringing 6 level 120s tbh

[viscid swift]

13-4 isn't 12-4, the requirements to farm safely are much stricter and you need to play around them if you want to farm with any degree of comfort

[storm heron]

main concerns are 3star bb/cv node at out of ammo and taihou

[viscid swift]

that's exactly why 13-4 is such a pain the in the ass to farm

[stark quiver]

im temped to say sigma level but

[viscid swift]

and why we don't reccomend it

[storm heron]

I definitely never sink to both of that

[obsidian ivy]

The big brain tech, use golden hind with the cannon ball for +1 ammo

[viscid swift]

you need to bulk up your fleets to deal with it and thus running more carries and losing XP

[viscid swift]

13-4 has 2 OOA fights not 1

[obsidian ivy]

Oh rip

[storm heron]

huh there's 7 mob fights

[obsidian ivy]

Yeaaaaa there's a reason I only go 13-4 with good ships

[sweet delta]

yea just farm 14-1 instead

[storm heron]

man missed the day where laffii and guam exist

[storm heron]

wait is it easier?

[keen sable]

someone farmed 15-1 because there's detailed rates on wiki

[stark quiver]

15-4 is best for faming commadner xp right?

why crystal ball?

[sweet delta]

even 15-4 gives half or even tenth exp for high level players

[sharp socket]

commander xp is farmed in opsi

[storm heron]

what, decimals?

[sharp socket]

at least according to my lv140+ friend

[stark quiver]

bro it scales? 💀

[storm heron]

personally I got more cmd exp for 13-4 than 12-4

[storm heron]

wow yea opsi is better

[stark quiver]

i js need to get to 130

[storm heron]

for what again?

[stark quiver]

self accomplishment

[sharp socket]

mail space

[storm heron]

I thought something is unlocked

do ships with 120+ morale gain extra dmg

[stark quiver]

well mail space, but that doesnt rly matter as much i think

[elder parcel]

in 15-4, can houston 2 drop from each boss fight or only the last one?

[stark quiver]

only xp gain
cuz that would be broken

[viscid swift]

last I heard she should still be able to drop from all 3

though that's constantly in debate

[elder parcel]

i forgor to check if the 1st and 2nd bosses have the gold ship icon on its drop pool

[stark quiver]

its time i get to work
manual 15-4 until h2 drop

[viscid swift]

they don't but they still dropped Houston 2

[storm heron]

whoops harbin died last fight. Hmm maybe because cali replaced gascogne from last time

[viscid swift]

That's not it

[keen sable]

makes sense

[viscid swift]

Yes....

[storm heron]

I was wrong, 13-4 has 122 level enemy, not 118

we have to be professional

[viscid swift]

Anyway, Harbin isn't exactly what I would describe as main tank material for 13-4

You said you have Guam right

[storm heron]

I had her

[late flame]

had?

[storm heron]

non favorite ships is out of service

[stark quiver]

had is devious

[storm heron]

reason: exp wasted

[viscid swift]

Suck up the loss and use her to carry your boss fleet

Because you're losing more XP by losing ships

Not getting S rank loses the 20% XP bonus

[storm heron]

mob: https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4VgTggGBGaA0BmeAORAmM0AsmBshisSeCGA7GfBnLQgEQWoCGAJmy1wwjgLoJgMeBUTD8iHGFhkMhehhyylxOHURNWXFvhY9%2Bg1FFzEMtSdLIx8ClQlgUJ96EnWN8AU3adW%2BvgJAJUXhyCiR6WAhYJwxUPGI7GWpoYPomJAAjbW5eAPhsdHspaGJYOQIJRCQwQsrnCTMNfBxtTj1cwVcKWGx7KnooxUw4kqKrMqcRNwZ8CGyc-gFYfwBCaAA6FLXMnFE2IA
boss: https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4RgBjAmA2BOANNMsIUQFgKxkx1TfZIg7CaADgKimgwCIB2SgQ3Y4awF1Fh7o9DAGZBaRNmjFC0puJrC6jFh3YQumXvwphyiGEKy5i8CLHr65GKdIiKYytgBMnnHlvARyTApmHSYYjg0DHMCOBo0QUZYTAAjVVYNLXgfH0hLTAsweDxrSnxfaVJ9CHSLBlgAU0Sknj5FNFNMiypC5Fgw-RK8Wx9oxEr4VgS3TV4wbm4AQggAOjLp1nh6YeggA
Req: 31 cv rld, 13-4 safe

I noticed something big brain happen

apparently chiyoda and hiryuu meta desync for some reason

so they kinda intercept the planes most of the time

keep in mind the mk6 he ammo on tenessee and wyverns on both cvs

[sweet delta]

Eldridge can main tank if appropriately leveled and carry two vanguard ships

[late flame]

ngl my eldridge is doing the exact same thing, albeit in 12-4 😛

[storm heron]

absolutely right

[viscid swift]

Why aren't you using an AP gun on Tennessee

Taihou and the command ship are heavy armor

[storm heron]

I find ap gun sucks when there's repair ships somewhere

[stark quiver]

maybe thats why its failing.......

[viscid swift]

A good AP gun will still dispatch the repair ship in short order

[storm heron]

like +13 457mm?

[viscid swift]

Or champagne gun

[storm heron]

Imma try again

[storm heron]

wait I still don't understand like why

they differ by 1.9s

[viscid swift]

Different reload stats, plane loadouts, planes used etc

Chiyoda is a CVL

They do tend to have higher reload stat

[storm heron]

ahh 208 to 165 rld

[storm heron]

doesn't that mean she's kinda shit then, 6 planes

[viscid swift]

Yes but not all CVLs have 6 planes

[storm heron]

eld kai the goat, sirius didn't even have auxes

[viscid swift]

Equipping your ships does help

Which you probably want to check that they are

[storm heron]

I wanted to like share my fleet and equips for people to use as minimum baseline for w13, but I'm not even sure with 1 sample size I have

so nvm

[viscid swift]

Farming isn't the same as clearing

[storm heron]

setups also require 4 wyv, 1 table, 1 twin457, 2 twin57, 1 twin100, 1 moggun, basically all the equips I have

[viscid swift]

Which is overkill with competent fleets clearing W13

[storm heron]

where can I access the equipments thingy?

the 6 fleets + oaths + level + equips thingy

[viscid swift]

You mean the Rhenex fleet tool

[storm heron]

like this

[viscid swift]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[storm heron]

I can't find the rhenex link oh thanks

wait.. does aquila just not heal when equipped normally?

[viscid swift]

She needs a fighter in her 2nd slot yes

[dusky vale]

Is there any support skill that increases the xp of bbs

Oh ok

[storm heron]

rate my 13-4 mob fleet

[jolly sonnet]

Please help in 14 2 boss fleet

[forest palm]

Questionable

[stark quiver]

theres like 0 aa , other than bayard i guess in that fleet

[storm heron]

ngl 13-4 is actually easier than w15

[stark quiver]

huh i wonder

[forest palm]

Well, no shit it's easier

[storm heron]

I have to like have musashi and all the TEX stuff for w15, but I can use tennessee to fight taihou

[storm heron]

do you have a thread?

[stark quiver]

hm maybe its at uh
A. Safe
B. Lower level
C. no 1+ bosses

[storm heron]

or what specifically do you need help with, your boss fleet can't survive as it did previously in 14-1?

[jolly sonnet]

Yup.

[storm heron]

Do you notice the boss have light armor iirc? nvm

[jolly sonnet]

Yes?

[storm heron]

what boss fleet are you using?

[storm heron]

why did them sink? vanguards died?

[jolly sonnet]

Yes

The suicide boats and the shelling are insane

[storm heron]

what other CAs do you have?

[storm heron]

it shouldn't be, there's musashi

[jolly sonnet]

I sometimes swap her with Lusty

[eternal moth]

Why are you using a non-max-level tank?

[storm heron]

Lusty who?

wdym swap her with lusty?

[jolly sonnet]

120/125 level? Roon, Prinz Eugen, Atago, Saint Louis

[jolly sonnet]

Illustrious. I swap her to bring up recon value

[soft dagger]

replace NJ with CV

[storm heron]

then why did you show me that if you don't have lusty anywhere

also you swapped the best tank in game. Maybe try Hikari Yume's idea if you want to bring down ACV as well as survive and deal enough damage

[jolly sonnet]

Hopes and prayers

[jolly sonnet]

Sure I'll try it

Also wdym best tank?

[eternal moth]

You do know that means she's taking 12% more damage than a max-level tank would right?

[storm heron]

I mean you don't need to 125 some ships to clear ch14, but vanguard pressure in boss fleet is reallly high

the problem is Imma need to see ur dock to see what other tanks you have

[eternal moth]

Yeah, but your tank should be max at the least. If you have a sandwich at 120 it's not going to make as big a difference

[storm heron]

since none of them's gonna cut it

[storm heron]

grind guam to 125, replace the azuma there

spicy skins

[clever lance]

Are there any other ships like Amazon that give extra exp? I need one for backline

[storm heron]

you don't need one most of the time since those ships are not that useful

[jolly sonnet]

I really need a job

[storm heron]

for example it is not justifiable to level amazon just to get the dd bonus

[eternal moth]

You really don't

[jolly sonnet]

Same crap for 14-3 and 14 4?

[quartz island]

if I run Shinano/Amagi CV/Hakuryuu, are there any decent vanguard slow options that don't sandbag the fleet?

[storm heron]

oh wait maybe cope but if you don't wanna level, you can take your chances on eld kai main tank

[storm heron]

mogador or eldridge, and then there's agir

[quartz island]

[storm heron]

you have to learn how to use mogador to root though

[topaz smelt]

Mog is only a 1 off for this meta fight

And eld and agir aren't consistent nor reliable

[atomic abyss]

Eld is the most consistent non freezer

[topaz smelt]

Hitting with eld isnt

[storm heron]

is ark royale a root?

the skill says 60% slow

[atomic abyss]

There are only 2 good ships that freeze
August and Implacable

Ark is a slow

[storm heron]

I remember ark royale being like a must have

[atomic abyss]

Formi also has a root

[storm heron]

so it was 60% slow all the time, I gaslighted myself

[eager mulch]

nyak well and truly is, underpowered

[coarse heron]

Ark is good if you don't have a root
but AvP is better once she's FS5

[twilit bobcat]

So I'm thinking about how to make as durable as a vanguard fleet as possible, and based on some advice I was given earlier I was thinking of going Mainz-San Diego(Retrofit)-Roon. And I'm working on retrofitting my Unicorn and training her repair skill
Any other applicable advice asides from giving the vanguard repair kits and evasion boosting auxiliaries?

[stark quiver]

For what content tho?

And maybe replace sandy with to a ship that boosts ehp, like Eldridge retrofit and Jeanne de arc

[vale spindle]

no keep sandy sandy good

[twilit bobcat]

No content in specific, though Sandy's presence is more because I have her nearly completely fitted out with her special little star blaster gun, and I like watching enemy aircraft vanish in little puffs of fire

[vale spindle]

roon is redundant use a different ship

also azur lane is literally built around different fleets for different content (even down to different equipment sometimes too) so general isnt a good idea

[left cedar]

kinda, if u are strugling with UR Bullins u SHOULDNT focus on finish retrofit of Sandy rn ...
cuz same resource and it will be a late into ur UR ships, wut can be a huge downside

[copper ermine]

If I'm still missing a good second battleship is maryland retrofit good for a mobbing battleship? I'm also in world 12.

[vale spindle]

nelson retrofit is better

[copper ermine]

That is my good battleship

[vale spindle]

[twilit bobcat]

My san diego has been max limit break for a while, that's not a concern

[stark quiver]

Sandy durable? Or just aa and good dps

[vale spindle]

you can get hood from medal shop

You can also attempt to get fdg from shipyard

or izumo if you are really not shipyard invested yet

[copper ermine]

I have yet to make 1 ship

[eager mulch]

“durable as possible” with no CBs, laffii, eldkai, or napoli ok man

[vale spindle]

time to get fdg or izumo from shipyard then, start with izumo then work up from there

devs really like UR gacha bbs so then you can round out a trio by pulling the next one that comes around

[twilit bobcat]

I guess in the vein of being "as much of a nuisance/as durable as possible" if I had to say what content it'd be for, it would be pvp defense fleet

[vale spindle]

in addition to more shipyard stuff

[twilit bobcat]

Focusing on what'd be the most amusing choices for the vanguard in that respect

Rather than the most balanced or whatnot. Durability is the foremost concern

[vale spindle]

for pvp go to #pvp its a whole diff ballgame

[wind hazel]

they are trash in pvp

[twilit bobcat]

aqh

[bold cove]

Does fate simulation can do by coin?

[vale spindle]

if the ship is coinable yes

u can coin all 508 prints

[bold cove]

Ah okay, so i think i will research on Pr5 and above

[twilit bobcat]

well, operation siren then since I could find practical use for soaking damage there

[left cedar]

retrofit is one thing, MLB is another, to complete her Retrofit u need a special item that use Specialized core, each is used to buy UR Bullins ...

[bold cove]

Do i need to dev all the ships in Pr1?

[wind hazel]

use a CB, +1 flex+sandy is ok on mob

[left cedar]

gud, i hope ur UR doint get a dellay cuz her retrofit

[strong tartan]

No most of them are powercrept

[bold cove]

Ah okay 👌

[quartz island]

Which one wasn't?

[left cedar]

more like all them are powercreeped ... the most used one there is Roon cuz KMS Tech

[strong tartan]

did u forget Izumo and Ibuki augments

[left cedar]

that make them worse than URs ... and iirc Izumo dint reach near Owari lvl of dmg ...

[strong tartan]

While yeah there are ships that do their job but better but I wouldn't say roon is the most used now

[quartz island]

PR1 be like:

Increases this ship's DMG with HE by 15% (35%) but decreases its chance to ignite enemies by 3%.
Increases this ship's Speed by 3 (8). At the start of the battle: increases this ship's EVA by 15% (35%) for 40s.

PR5 be like:

Increases this ship's AVI and FP by 1% (10%).
When this ship's aircraft hits an enemy: 50% (100%) chance to inflict a special Burn ailment to that target for 10s, increasing that target's shelling DMG taken from your Main Fleet by 8%.
When this ship's Main Guns hit an enemy: 50% (100%) chance to increase the target's airstrike DMG taken from your Main Fleet by 4%; if the target is already affected by an AA stat debuff, further increases that target's airstrike DMG taken from your Main Fleet by 8%. This effect lasts until the next time this ship fires her Main Guns.
If this ship has an Eagle Union or Northern Parliament Main Gun equipped: increases this ship's FP by 1% (10%) and decreases her cannon DMG taken by 10% (20%).
If this ship has an Eagle Union or Northern Parliament aircraft equipped: increases this ship's AVI by 1% (10%) and decreases the loading time of her 1st airstrike by 15% (30%).
When the battle starts, if there is another Eagle Union ship in your Main Fleet: while this ship is afloat, your CVs and CVLs deal 5% (15%) more airstrike DMG (does not stack with the skill "Air Raid Assistance").
Increases this ship's DMG dealt to Burning enemies by 1% (10%).
When this ship launches an airstrike: launches an additional Lv.1 (Lv.10) special airstrike.
Every 20s: fires a Lv.1 (Lv.10) special barrage with properties that change based on whether or not there are Burning enemies on the battlefield (inflicts a special Burn for 10s to enemies hit by the Oceanic Blaze special barrage; DMG is based on the skill's level).

[runic bluff]

are there shipgirls in core/merit shop that are farmable in some war archives?? (to save core data/merits)

[left cedar]

some yes, but not all

to be honest i dont remember exactly each ones are "unique" in core, but things like Muse, and Indep i have sure that are unique into core

[sleek spade]

PR6 Q- UL or blue nyakhimov? I only have 1 pr 6 ur ca gun

[left cedar]

how far from D30 and 2nd SKC ?

[dusk maple]

what season are you focusing on?

[sleek spade]

Pr7 for nya and plane

[dusk maple]

pick nyak

[left cedar]

them Neko

[sleek spade]

Mm okey

But nya is just blue research

[strong tartan]

still pick it

[left cedar]

1 still more than 0

[dusk maple]

not an issue

[sleek spade]

Alright

[runic bluff]

is there some list of who are farmable in WA that are present in core/merit shop?

[zenith heron]

What is the significance of adjusting Fleet Tech Bonuses?

[dusk maple]

rld timings, nothing else

[hollow gust]

I would have taken the rigging ngl

[wind hazel]

you can meet desired timing

[left cedar]

when needed in they nich, can be a huge thing if synced correctly, otherwise, not much usefull

[vale spindle]

na don't think so, just gotta check all ships in the shops on the wiki and see if they drop elsewhere

[rose cosmos]

Is it wrong to just straight out craftinng xf5u for every cv instead of hellcat?

[wind hazel]

Musketeer
Scharnhorst
West Virginia
Kongou
Akatsuki
Fiji
Wasp
Le Mars

there

[rose cosmos]

Xf5u is way cheaper to build

[left cedar]

not exactly all CVs, cuz boss maybe u wanna some rockets

[full musk]

any team comp suggestions

[strong tartan]

for where

[jaunty vault]

how is flapjack cheaper than hellcat

[wind hazel]

1 less electronics

(but ordinance kekw)

[atomic abyss]

Hellcat is free

Tigercat is the one you're thinking of

[jaunty vault]

hellcat is literally free lol

[runic bluff]

ty

[full musk]

Campaign tbh

I feel kind of stupid because I leveled up a bunch of gear to +8 to finish the quest for enty but I’m missing a lot more

[rose cosmos]

Yeah tigercat

[strong tartan]

go to the guild shop and get unicorn

[rose cosmos]

Tigercat cost way more fighter prints

[strong tartan]

wait I'm so blind

[rose cosmos]

9 prints vs 2, wtf

[full musk]

Lmao all good

[strong tartan]

What world is this for

[full musk]

7 and above

Ik there’s a world where you need anti fire stuff right

[atomic abyss]

w10/11/14

[shell willow]

anyone got the gif for watarase flagship support barrage?

[strong tartan]

I'd probably use
Amagi cv/Nelson/Unicorn
Portland/Z23/Helena

Nelson as flag

[tender python]

Does the pick up mean anything?

[tropic tusk]

y use amagi then isnt she cv booster

[jaunty vault]

means its from the season you have on focus

[plain saffron]

the season you choosen to focus

[strong tartan]

she does good in mob too

[sinful escarp]

also queu you researches so it automatically does it

[tender python]

So doing these projects give me bp exclusive to said season?

[tropic tusk]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[sinful escarp]

not exclusive, just higher chance of getting that season

[tropic tusk]

there is a guide for it but idk the link to it

[sinful escarp]

ah i misread what you meant

pick-up just means that research is part of the season you have focused

[storm heron]

what about the bonus? sometimes I get 1 nyakhimov bonus or 1 la9 bonus

[jaunty vault]

what about it?

[full musk]

Bet thanks man

[storm heron]

do I still get bonus if I do pr6 in pr7 focus?

[jaunty vault]

research have a chance to give some bonus BPs, for estimated numbers check a research database

to my knowledge, bonus drops have no correlation to season focus

[storm heron]

oh I think we have a pr-data channel

[tender python]

Does doing a research like this one mean I can only get harbins bp from it and no other bp?

[jaunty vault]

ectl does

[tender python]

As in character bps

[tropic tusk]

u reseearch to get their blueprints

[storm heron]

you get 2 harbin bps

[jaunty vault]

yes

[jaunty vault]

atleast 1

[full musk]

I’ve been doing free researches the whole time

[storm heron]

rip

[tender python]

Is it better to just skip these and go for the one hour ones if I am not aiming for Harbin?

[jaunty vault]

you should be aiming for harbin but yes, and by 1hr ones I mean Q research that does not eat cubes

[polar venture]

Are fusou meta, hiyou meta, or junyou meta any good?

[tropic tusk]

thats just waste of time

[jaunty vault]

H research of one hour is fine if you know what you're doing
(most people don't)

[jaunty vault]

something is better than nothing

[tropic tusk]

u can walys cube

[jaunty vault]

no

[storm heron]

who is better, lvl 100 nj 1lb or tenessee

[coarse heron]

only for fleet tech, not as ships

[jaunty vault]

im leaning towards Nj

[tropic tusk]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[jaunty vault]

cube research eats up too many cubes and requires you to have enough cubes in stock for event builds

[tropic tusk]

mostly go for D and Q

[storm heron]

60% nj better than tenessee?

[tropic tusk]

i cant find the stupid guide link

[jaunty vault]

assuming skills are maxed

[storm heron]

damn ok ok

[white agate]

do "/" guide in bot, without the ""

[storm heron]

nj is maxed tenessee is lvl 8

have fun nj *throws nj to fight taihou

[tropic tusk]

no not those theres a better one

[storm heron]

ah yea that one, sam's link

[jaunty vault]

research guide is in there

in the guide compendium

i already answered the person's question

[tender python]

Ty

Is the mk7 a big upgrade over the mk6?

[jaunty vault]

it is

[sly robin]

Guys whats the name of this aux gear?

[storm heron]

24% upgrade

[storm heron]

fairy magic poster

[sly robin]

What does it do?

[storm heron]

where did you get it?

like the photo

[atomic abyss]

notable, but not notable enough for it to be high priority

[sly robin]

From utube

[tender python]

I already have a mk7 should I go for another one or should I go for the twin 457?

[atomic abyss]

how many 457s

[tame jungle]

How many 457s do you have

[storm heron]

I think you can find the full desc in wiki

[tender python]

Currently 0 just been using the triple 406 guns

[sly robin]

Okay ty

[storm heron]

but it is good in pvp

[jaunty vault]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/"Fairy_Magic"_Poster

[atomic abyss]

then you shd get 457s first
mk7 is low prio in comparison

[sly robin]

Ty sir

[tender python]

Am running Helena currently, should I still run her if I use 457?

[storm heron]

no

[atomic abyss]

use it for your mobbing BB then

[tropic tusk]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

found it

[storm heron]

who r u replying to

[tropic tusk]

his research problem

[tender python]

Ty

[storm heron]

I thought you were replying to the wrong person and they ended up trying to find the numbers on mk7 in the guide

[tropic tusk]

[steep bobcat]

what would you guys say is the "fastest" mobbing fleet in opsi?

i.e. clearing everything as fast as possible

[atomic abyss]

unicorn/perseus with any 2 of indep, impero, chise, aquila and bearn meta

your frontline depends on the backline

[storm heron]

when do azur lane celebrate children's day?

[atomic abyss]

it doesnt

[atomic abyss]

if anything, they follow china/japan children's day

which is like

june and april

[storm heron]

I see, so that's when cheshire also got her alt

[timid rain]

By friends does it mean any Sakura vanguard ships?

[crimson glacier]

any vanguard

[atomic abyss]

any vanguard ship not named shiranui

[crimson glacier]

shiranui also counts

doesnt she just remove her ghost friend

[plain saffron]

yes

[atomic abyss]

the ghost friend counts for 1 otherwise yes

so you dont even need a full vanguard

[crimson glacier]

yeah but thats kinda pointless now

[still ledge]

is the prototype spearfish any good?

[crimson glacier]

its good

[atomic abyss]

very good, but very expensive and lower prio than wyvern

[still ledge]

what if you have 4 wyvern

or rather when and on whom would it be of use

[crimson glacier]

well i havent really seen any real use for it yet so i havent crafted any

[spring bolt]

for now the best usage i have seen is opsi c5 quick farming, but it does not imporve other opsi farming efficiency

[still ledge]

hmm i see

[crimson glacier]

and i kinda doubt it makes that big of a difference in c5

[spring bolt]

very small indeed, so not much reason to craft them as c3 farming has better ap/gold plates ratio

[storm heron]

c1 better ap/ap ratio

[polar lion]

c3 better than c5? I thot they consume same 30 ap

oh wait c3 consume 15 ap

[spring bolt]

expected c1 ap cost is exactly same as the ap gain, the real usage for c1 farming is to consume opsi coins and convert them into ship and cmdr exp

[polar lion]

i thot c5 has better paw print spawn for the ap spent

[plain saffron]

better than c6

[atomic abyss]

paw print is for gold plates

[spring bolt]

when it comes down to gold plates per ap spent, c3 still wins according to CN community data
the down side of c3 is more time consuming

[raw swift]

W12+ fleet

Hello, can someone help me pls

[crimson grove]

How worth is crafting the 406 mk7

[atomic abyss]

lower than 457

[crimson grove]

Need a third for maximum HE goes brrr
I have 4 457s I think need like 6

[atomic abyss]

then sure

[undone plover]

U mean c3 is better even if u dont stop for akashi than c5 correct?
This is what my very limited data suggested so I am curious to see CN thoughts

[crimson grove]

when you said show my brain broke for a second cause I play on tablet and typing on laptop

[spring bolt]

no, not stopping for the green head cat will significantly lower the cost efficiency
if you don't stop for akashi, c5 is the better choice

[undone plover]

Not sure what u meant by this then

[crimson grove]

~~I set up opsi auto up to hit hidden areas or unexplored areas and go to bed ~~ Dont be like me

[spring bolt]

i mean, if you don't stop for akashi, you should farm c5
more specifically, gold plate per ap will be the same for c3 and c5 if you don't stop for akashi, while c5 is much quicker

[undone plover]

Ah I see
This was what I read previously here as well

Thanks for explaining

[tropic tusk]

u can set the auto run to help u go akashi also

[jolly wasp]

ehto after chap 6, every stage need to beat 3 times, will it increase afterward ?

[atomic abyss]

the run will stop tho

[atomic abyss]

yes, it gets to as many as 6

[tropic tusk]

wont it auto buy everything in shop?