gameplay-help

[viscid swift]

both work, Helmet needs high investment to make it work though

no, if you're gonna go defensive you would use a rudder on her like all other cruisers, or you could go offensive once you level her up to kill the knights faster

[unique lantern]

i have 0 twin 128s or bps of it :v im guessing they come from a box?

[viscid swift]

just use the DD gun with highest FP stat you have for NJ's aux gun

that's all her aux gun will be for all META showdowns, a FP stat stick

[storm olive]

Helmet +13 plygun with UR 100mm enough?

[viscid swift]

and you'll want a better main gun and aux gun

[viscid swift]

+13 Mogador gun would be preferable but a +10 100mm Kai might be consistent enough

[storm olive]

I missed mog event 100kai it is

[tropic tusk]

these are my option

@viscid swift wht should i use

[storm heron]

wow Nakhimov bad?

[eager mulch]

no, inherently underpowered

[unique lantern]

140k more, but that fdg with recommended gear barely deals 40k more than uni, ill try with shina

[viscid swift]

I'm starting to wonder if maybe you should instead try with CVs

[unique lantern]

but the he gun on alsace giving her 30% more damage 👍

[viscid swift]

really for Helmet you want Bismarck Zwei

[desert tapir]

This is my Opsi mob fleet. I'm thinking of replacing NJ with Musashi, and Roon with ethier Hinderburg or Harbin. Am I going the right direction with those changes 🤔

[tropic tusk]

me try cv team?

[viscid swift]

I have serious doubts on this fleet's success rate

[unique lantern]

what is that tool

[viscid swift]

because I know Helmet as like that won't kill the knights in time for the BBs last salvo

[coarse heron]

This is my OpSi mob fleet if it gives you any ideas

[tropic tusk]

can i keep my vanguage ? if i go cv

[viscid swift]

you'd want to change it

do you have Soryuu META or Bearn META built

or any META CV built

[viscid swift]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[unique lantern]

thanks

[jaunty burrow]

can I have help with my fleet, again please

[unique lantern]

what the hell happened here, i switched fdg for shina and suddenly my alsace dealt 60k more, first one just had unlucky bb shots i guess?
ill just put fdg back in and farm like that

[desert tapir]

Currently my Shima and Ancho are in boss fleets. I'm only considered moving Mushi out to replace her with Alsace. Would Harbin or Hindenburg better off taking Anchos places in boss while she moves to mob.

[viscid swift]

Helena moves around a lot so hitting her reliably without Zwei or a root is an RNG fest

[tropic tusk]

i can tecnly mlb those shop meta if needed

but their skill is the only problem since it cost time

[viscid swift]

you can try leveling up Bearn META and running a CV fleet with her aganst QE

[blazing shale]

Which are the fastest mob fleets for opsi?

[viscid swift]

it'll probably have a better success rate than Helmet

[tropic tusk]

this can? or shinano better?

[viscid swift]

you'd want Shinano and Amagi CV as the other 2

[tropic tusk]

how about vanguard?

[viscid swift]

Kazagumo, Unzen, plus one more
something along those lines

[tropic tusk]

this is the best i got

[unique lantern]

is shina good in a mob fleet? she got double torp preloads iirc

[blazing shale]

Also, who did Nakhimov want in her fleet?

[eager mulch]

did you miss?

[viscid swift]

you could try that bit if you do swap ibuki and Eldridge

[viscid swift]

Soyuz

[eager mulch]

he did miss

[tropic tusk]

like this?

[viscid swift]

yes

[desert tapir]

Follow up. I am working up the Dragon Emperie missle destroyers to 125 now. Will I want them spread out among my opsi or should the be in one fleet together?

[tropic tusk]

these 2 ok right their build

[topaz smelt]

You only want like 1 at most

[viscid swift]

QE is heavy armor so Amagi wants to run DB, TB, TB

[desert tapir]

Me?

[tropic tusk]

wts db tb tb

[viscid swift]

I also don't remember QE's stop timers or if they even lined up with CVs at all

[unique lantern]

dive bomber, torpedo bomber

[blazing shale]

Or I guess the builds for staggering with uni/indep

[viscid swift]

so you'll want to check that to fine tune it

[desert tapir]

Roger Roger

[tropic tusk]

is this a db?

oh this?

[forest palm]

ya, but it's junk

[tropic tusk]

this?

[forest palm]

better

[unique lantern]

oh holy i never actually looked at the tenrais skill

[tropic tusk]

then tp this?

[forest palm]

that is a TB, yes

literally says on the card

[tropic tusk]

i mean is it good to use

[forest palm]

it's one of the 4 main Bossing TBs that we use, yes

[late flame]

i mainly use saiuns for timing purposes

[forest palm]

Saiun, D-4, Ryuusei, and VIT-2 Mod

[tropic tusk]

thx

[unique lantern]

i have just enough coords to get helena to 25k, who do i focus afterwards? helena is the only one i have

[tropic tusk]

just keep playing

[topaz smelt]

Prob souryuu/hiryou

[unique lantern]

i am, but im almost done with the saved up coords and then im done with helena crystals, who afterwards

[forest palm]

one of these 3

[late flame]

i'd pick souryuu but i guess any is fine

[tropic tusk]

y not 100% her

[eager mulch]

25k is enough to mlb

[unique lantern]

cause i could get the other ships going

and im sure they would be more useful than some meta mats

[topaz smelt]

I don't rmbr the last time mark was recced

[tropic tusk]

100% for perfect

[forest palm]

I don't see the value in meta ships outside of tech, and a sometimes one off case where one is needed for a random meta fight which is once every blue moon

[late flame]

cope slow if one doesnt have og ark / avp / implac

[unique lantern]

do meta ships get some kind of bonus in meta fights?

[viscid swift]

only in QE META

[late flame]

i guess it depends on what one's going for.. i'd only do 70k if i wanted more chips

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't prioritize 70k until I had MLB all the METAs

[tropic tusk]

i just want 100%

[unique lantern]

i mean, it takes 70 days for a single 100% :c

[topaz smelt]

Unless you can 1 shot, I prob wouldn't bother

[tropic tusk]

i mean im not in rush

[tropic tusk]

oh u need 70 day? good to know

[unique lantern]

everyone does

you are limited to 200 coords per day, which are 1000 synch, no?

[viscid swift]

yes

[tropic tusk]

i dont really count so i just play lol

[viscid swift]

yeah I gathered as much

based on some of your shall we say interesting choices

[forest palm]

it's actually 72 days to Max a Live Meta, Dossier are a touch different

[unique lantern]

i mean, i was just doing dailies and chilling for the first 4 or 5 months playing i just started to actually care about efficiency and opsi last month

my plymouth keeps dying 15 seconds before the meta fight is over i need those last dev levels

[tropic tusk]

i have been playing everyday since the day i join this server, but when i saw the math i just gave up on " tryhard"

so i just grind daily and ask for help instead thats y all my gears are bad

[viscid swift]

you don't exactly need to have taken calculus to understand what gear is good against what

[unique lantern]

yea, you can just ask here its easy

[topaz smelt]

A lot of the math is just timing and there's calculators for that

[tropic tusk]

ya now i want to start learning wht is for wht

[viscid swift]

you don't need to know how it all works, just remember what gear is good against what and how to plug numbers into the Cooldown calculators to time stuff

[late flame]

copy fleet no jutsu although YMMW due to gear/fleettech/rng

[viscid swift]

as we say, sam's gear guide is the place to start

[tropic tusk]

ya im using that also

[topaz smelt]

~~every fleet I copyed here failed ~~

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[tropic tusk]

i cant even copy always missing 1 for main 1 for vangard

[unique lantern]

ya, missing zwei is painful :c

[tropic tusk]

and mushashi (wrong spelling probly)

[unique lantern]

everywhere i go i see her face

[exotic wren]

honestly at one point you'd stop caring about the tiny details and just smack them on .3 fire windows if synced and just go longest fr gun, mid, and the fastest barrage gun for unsyced

[unique lantern]

there is so much i dont understand in that sentence

[grand siren]

[tropic tusk]

meaning u need good gear to ignore those ships

[exotic wren]

It's syncing

[unique lantern]

i havent even tried to synch even once, i guess i should, after all i have slows and bbs

(and now finally avp)

[viscid swift]

you need good gear even with those ships

[exotic wren]

Well champagne gun and Mk6 are common enough, I guess you could consider autoloader common enough as well if you play consistently?

[viscid swift]

autoloaders drop from tech boxes so yes

but autoloaders are niche

[tropic tusk]

the one good things aobut this game is taht u cant really "buy" ur way, so it all goes down to luck, thats one thing i like about this game it makes it easy for new players like me to catch up

[exotic wren]

Oh wait sorry I meant the radar

[unique lantern]

not luck either, just feels like hard work gets you everywhere (and being there when events drop)

[viscid swift]

there's also not really that much luck involved

90% of it is being active, taking good researches, and doing OpSi

[exotic wren]

Gears are pretty much guaranteed from playing consistently

[tropic tusk]

research is techly luck

[unique lantern]

taking good researches? you guys dont just spam the cheap ones when there are no ship researches ?

[tropic tusk]

i take wep when no ship

i do cube when thats the only option beside 12h

[runic ruin]

Hi

[viscid swift]

it is but if you don't take good researches you're not helping yourself in that regard

[viscid swift]

1 hour Qs are good researches

[unique lantern]

i usually take ships>rigging analysis>grant donation, im barely even looking at the number 😔

sometimes i just get boned and have several cube researches (me poor, no cube, cube only for event) and the very long basic ones

[viscid swift]

that's why you don't get greedy with your daily refresh

[exotic wren]

Why would you take cube, just grab anything that costs gold, taking cubes are only for those with a stockpile as in longtime players,.... and those without gambling addiction

[unique lantern]

i got lucky this event, got amagi after 20 pulls or something so i can have a guaranteed ur next time

[urban solar]

don't you run out of gold if you take face research all day?

[stark quiver]

No cuz if ur active u grind

[unique lantern]

spam high stages, i have too much gold

[stoic ermine]

yes. then you get it right back from main campaign

[topaz smelt]

If you're in w12 coin is a non-issue

[unique lantern]

speaking of... i need to do some harder coining

[stoic ermine]

😭

[jaunty burrow]

Rich

[exotic wren]

Ye be more active, there's peeps here that stay at above 300k

[storm heron]

two steps ahead ahh post

[tropic tusk]

its hard to keep so much money early game

[exotic wren]

Where are you in the campaign?

[unique lantern]

its probably awful tho, i cant imagine how much gold i lost from not being able to claim gold for days/weeks on end

[tropic tusk]

14-1 but doing 12-4 now

[exotic wren]

That ain't early

[tropic tusk]

for exp and leveling up random ship for research

[exotic wren]

That's like mid game at best? Tho even then that's where most people here spend oil since these guys are just farming tech

[storm heron]

have you finished the tech grind though?

[unique lantern]

running out of bullins

(used to have so many it would clog my entire dock, now i never have any)

[tropic tusk]

but i only play for half year thats already mid game?

playing since 2023 nov

[unique lantern]

thats almost a year

[storm heron]

mid game is when you reach 12-4 and sit there researching ships

[unique lantern]

"2007 was 6 years ago" ahh

[tropic tusk]

oh wait ya its oct mb lol

[unique lantern]

hey that's me

i never actually started a 13-1

[tropic tusk]

so when is end game? complet 15-4?

or finish opsi middle part?

[viscid swift]

depends on who you ask

[forest palm]

more like when you're farming tech, resetting cats, and farming mats for gear lab

[tropic tusk]

which one is harder to complet? 15-4 or opsi middle part?

[forest palm]

Ops is a joke, 15-4 is much more difficult

[stoic ermine]

but the arbiter is nasty isn't it?

[forest palm]

[tropic tusk]

oh then is it possible for me to clear opsi? with wht i have?

[stoic ermine]

oh you can handily run through opsi with those

[forest palm]

probably get walled by H Arbiter, but Normal will be do able

[tropic tusk]

i can clear everhting in the middle?

[unique lantern]

h arbieter? is there a hard mode in opsi ._.?

[forest palm]

for Arbiter, yes

[unique lantern]

the 200 cost nodes are ripping me a new one

they easier than normal arbiter?

[forest palm]

ya

[unique lantern]

😭

[forest palm]

Strongholds are extremely easy cause you can leave, and go heal at no cost after the first entry

[unique lantern]

wait you can leave them(and come back)?

[forest palm]

yes

[unique lantern]

wish id know that the first time

[steel grotto]

abyssals are the ones where you cant leave

not really anything bad since you can always heal with ap unless the boss has a healing buff and you cant outdamage then its gg

[stark quiver]

There’s no set definition to endgame, really just depends on your goals n whatnot

be like the guy who has 2000+ oaths

[elfin hollow]

~~ more like end of your wallet ~~

[tropic tusk]

ill try my best to 200 unicorn oaths

[storm heron]

complete 15-4, one shot the meta fight, one shot harby, beat hard EX, be a gph admin

[stark quiver]

hard ex is piss easy

[storm heron]

so is it just meta and 15-4?

[topaz smelt]

End game is really just kill harby

[stark quiver]

rly depends on what your goals are
btw hard ex can be beat by #justdodge

[eager mulch]

endgame is arguing in ectl tiering channels with the evals (an impossible task)

[tropic tusk]

my fd did ex before he did 10-1 for some odd reason

yet till this day i havent try doing ex cause i fail 1 time

[stark quiver]

theres that one lvl 87 guy who is #1 on amagi ex
wonder how

[topaz smelt]

Skill issue

I do it just fine

[wet granite]

I've been trying to clear W15 lately. Is there a good replacement for Laffey - 2's role for mobbing?

[sweet delta]

Eldridge

[rough vale]

W13 teams? Plz help https://imgur.com/a/FTmqbpH

[wet granite]

I don't have Eldridge either, unfortunately. I missed all ships after Unzen I think, asides from the last event. Am I just better off waiting for a laffey rerun?

[tropic tusk]

wont be any time soon tho

[little tree]

Eldrich appears in the PVP shop form time to time

[tropic tusk]

no u need her retrofit

[wet granite]

Oh. I thought you meant the retrofit Eldrich, I have the base version.

[tropic tusk]

her retrofit item was from event

[little tree]

~~ im dumb~~

[sweet delta]

Many people did 15 before laffii and Guam existed, you could do the same but you just need more overall account strength

[topaz smelt]

15 is fairly easy if you have a built sub fleet and decent gear

[storm heron]

but one can one hit harby without needing to go to ch15, not crafting any wyverns

so I included 15-4 to late game

cuz what is late game without finishing the content

[topaz smelt]

I consider 14+ optional content

[stark quiver]

ngl 13 is optional as well
most dont need to go up higgher than 12

[topaz smelt]

13 unlocks 13hm, so there's reasons to do it

[storm heron]

you lose 1 avi

[stark quiver]

oh yea

[storm heron]

yea

[tropic tusk]

im poor

[storm heron]

[sweet delta]

#trophy-room

[storm heron]

where's the anti-flex channel

[sweet delta]

#1020044605053476994

[tropic tusk]

the man has answer to everything

[rough vale]

What does a "support" fleet full of CV's do, and when do they show up?

[storm heron]

Damn ok I thought we had one but somehow I have to subscribe first

[south sequoia]

They send fighters to intercept enemy aircraft

[sweet delta]

Intercept enemy planes in Chapter 15

[storm heron]

wait can kearsoup intercept?

[stark quiver]

no

[storm heron]

4x200% eff fighter is nuts

[viscid swift]

she can but I wouldn't want to rely on it

[tropic tusk]

is this a good pvp fleet?

[stark quiver]

oh she can?

[topaz smelt]

Low Avi stat isnt

[sweet delta]

Yes

[eager mulch]

did you ask #pvp

[stark quiver]

more of a #pvp question, but its kinda meh

[tropic tusk]

oh

[storm heron]

backline meh

[storm heron]

unfortunate

[tropic tusk]

its all i have

[sweet delta]

Level 100 ships meh

[stark quiver]

if its best u have then yeh

[viscid swift]

I somehow doubt Felix is the best you have

[sweet delta]

Did we tell you #pvp already

[tropic tusk]

i mean they answering here so

[sweet delta]

Stop answering him

[tropic tusk]

techly its still gameplay help man

[viscid swift]

who's him

[storm heron]

how is there someone better

[eager mulch]

im him

[viscid swift]

Juneau would be the obvious one

[south sequoia]

There is a reason why we had to seperate pvp and gph

[tropic tusk]

fine

[viscid swift]

it's not so much that it's off topic, most of us just aren't PvP mains

[storm heron]

ayo orange color showed up

[south sequoia]

[storm heron]

what does ur username mean?

[viscid swift]

an inside joke of sorts

[stark quiver]

something something yt vid

[storm heron]

was quyet right about how nakh comp only deals 3% more danage than amagi comp against med?

[topaz smelt]

Is quyet ever right?

[viscid swift]

I haven't tested it but sounds about as trustworthy as all of his takes, not at all

[topaz smelt]

His best take has been Bristol > ply

[forest palm]

[storm heron]

[south sequoia]

Atleast he isnt kimo

[topaz smelt]

They're not too far off

Both cn parrots with shit takes, as with most ytubers

[forest palm]

there was another that left a long time ago

[tropic tusk]

could i ask for help to build team for opsi and for me to try to clear the middle part?

[topaz smelt]

just corpse rush it

You can port heal and come back against normal Arby

[forest palm]

who remember J3C

[topaz smelt]

Who?

[plain saffron]

My favorite AL youtuber

[eager mulch]

i remember suchiguma

[south sequoia]

Create a thread and post dock pics in there

[topaz smelt]

everyone naming cn parrots

[forest palm]

that's just AL Tubers in general

[soft raft]

They sell Parrots in china? no way

[viscid swift]

could be worse, could be OG investigator

[topaz smelt]

~~Nah they're pigeons in parrot costumes ~~

[storm heron]

guardianE

[viscid swift]

I have no issues with someone who only does pulls and reviews skins

[whole crypt]

I'm fairly sure when they parrot CN they do it with 0 comprehension of what they're saying

[south sequoia]

if I have shinano and implacable oathed but not amagi with no affinity would she have issues with syncing

[whole crypt]

change planes

[south sequoia]

nevermind

[stark quiver]

yea kinda just change some planes

[south sequoia]

ill cough up the 600

[viscid swift]

if anything that's kinda good considering how fast Amagi is

[topaz smelt]

Thats very evident when they give their own opinions

[south sequoia]

oh

[viscid swift]

I'd hold off until you need the extra reload

[south sequoia]

Hmm, so should I keep her at 100 atleast?

[whole crypt]

generating engagement more important than accuracy

[south sequoia]

alrighty

[tropic tusk]

Create a thread and post dock pics in

[topaz smelt]

More like deleting comments than correcting themselves

[storm heron]

making videos arguing with the comments

[south sequoia]

Hold off on further comments on the topic please

[topaz smelt]

were giving newbs advice to avoid yt

[bright tusk]

What is the current meta OPS mob fleet that also can clear all enemies including bosses in stronghold

[whole crypt]

there's more than 1, just throw rainbows at it

you'll probably have more luck posting your dock (in a thread) and letting us see if you can put something together

[wide snow]

hello chat what am i doing wrong

[sweet delta]

Being a new player with not enough tech

[topaz smelt]

Prob bad sync

[wide snow]

i have almost everything at tech 8/9

[sweet delta]

That doesn't matter

[stark quiver]

thats faction tech, what abt actual fleet tech?

[sweet delta]

Do you have the right ships at 120

[wide snow]

like gear?

[stark quiver]

no, tech, getting ships to 120 for +1 rld

[wide snow]

everything 125 except amagi at 120, no tenrai on her either so using torps at +12 ish i think

[topaz smelt]

You don't need much tech with that setup

It's either bad sync, bad gear or mog missed

[wide snow]

that's why i have no clue why im not one shotting

[whole crypt]

do you have these ships at 120
not that this one needs max tech for syncing

[storm heron]

maybe mog died

[whole crypt]

then 1.1M sounds about right

[wide snow]

trying to follow this but some stuff isn't +13

[topaz smelt]

And mog should tank

That's the shit setup

[wide snow]

just missing one tenrai and the third plane for amagi isn't +13

[whole crypt]

you know +13 is 8% damage right? and Amagi is losing 10% from being 120

[sweet delta]

more like these ships

[wide snow]

oh maybe that's why

[topaz smelt]

Check out Jimmy's yt for the better setups

[whole crypt]

are they oathed?

[bright tusk]

How to create a thread?

[wide snow]

none oathed not whale enough to do that

[whole crypt]

find this button

[storm heron]

lmao but I thought

[whole crypt]

oathing is another part of it, 6% stat damage and syncing as well if not enough tech to start with

[whole crypt]

at least jimmy tests his shit

[topaz smelt]

I worked with him cooking the fleets

[wide snow]

I'm getting 22s load times for my backline but isn't 21/20+ closer

[bright tusk]

Help OPS mob fleet

[whole crypt]

the usual suspects are "these comps worked for me your problem if they don't"

[storm heron]

I'm sorry

[stark quiver]

would the better setup only require 2 tenrais?

[storm heron]

pls dont mad

[topaz smelt]

There's an implac setup

[stark quiver]

one w/o implac needs 3?

[topaz smelt]

But I think it really wants a la9

[wide snow]

if i use Implac i do slightly less i believe

[topaz smelt]

Amagis too fast so she needs the tenrai

[topaz smelt]

Ye preferably

[stark quiver]

oh nice, so want like 1 la9 and 2 tenrais? how would sync be like

[topaz smelt]

Check his vid, there's too many variants that work

[stark quiver]

just a normal bossing one? no timing gimmicks

[storm heron]

people now achieved 100% kill rate with magato?

[forest palm]

mm, just casualy pull a La 9 out of thin air

[topaz smelt]

Just sync and max dmg, tank mog Quint mags unzen

[wide snow]

not improved quads over rainbow quint???

[topaz smelt]

Ye quints are better with mog tank

[stark quiver]

technically i could pull the gear focus card and then stall nakh

[topaz smelt]

Unzen face torps

[whole crypt]

I haven't failed for the past 3-4 days but 🎲

[sweet delta]

100% when the sample size is 5 sure

[topaz smelt]

Cn parrot in shambles

[storm heron]

37/50, 330/513, how should I proceed, since now knowing la9 is mid, prolly gonna go back to pr6 to get hinden and kearsoup

[viscid swift]

who said La-9 is mid

[whole crypt]

La-9 is for med, that's for sure

[stark quiver]

la9 being mid is crazy
but like id personally do ship bp grind, then gear

[whole crypt]

converging torps still better for heavy, La-9 is just there to fill Implacable's fighter slot if she's there

[little tree]

Does arbiter always cycle thru rotations or do they occasionally make new ones?

[whole crypt]

they've not changed them for the past 3 years

[left cedar]

laughing in La-9 +13

[whole crypt]

I unironically want my plates back to enhance VIT first now

[topaz smelt]

I don't think anyone's claimed the fleets 100%

[left cedar]

i can do 3 of them +13 if i wanna

[whole crypt]

I have a sample size of about 20 now but RNG is still RNG so

[left cedar]

but, holding for my next 2 LA9

[topaz smelt]

I had like a 30+ sample size and claimed 90+% day 1

[storm heron]

is second la9 better than hinden kear?

[stark quiver]

probably

[left cedar]

Hinden is ultra niche or mobbing Op.Si ...
Kear is niched to USS fleet

[storm heron]

anti light kear top?

[left cedar]

iirc not exactly top, but one of the best

[whole crypt]

well I'm pushing La-9 but I'm done with PR6 and as it's turning out I doubt I'll need more than 4 La-9s at this point

[stark quiver]

if you have enty/implac/yk2 and hvars

[left cedar]

but i'm not fan of ally ships, so i cant grant that

[storm heron]

[whole crypt]

Kearsarge/Yorktown II should be one of top anti-light, should work fine for temperance but METAs are subject to seasonal gimmicks

[rain bobcat]

unironically using zwei isntead of kear would be more consistent on temperence

[left cedar]

btw, i love Hindy in Op.Si Mobbing she just
pewpewpew
and everything dead

[storm heron]

sorry temper who?

[whole crypt]

this month's arbiter

[rain bobcat]

light harbiter than spawns a medium armor takoyaki

[whole crypt]

but the spawn isn't a ball

[stark quiver]

🪼

[rain bobcat]

not yet cooked

[topaz smelt]

I don't think it's an octopus either

[whole crypt]

or cut up

[whole crypt]

that would be observer

[rain bobcat]

its more like a jellyfish or a weird squid

[plain saffron]

It's a jellyfish

[eager mulch]

you’re a jellyfish

[plain saffron]

I am ?!

[viscid swift]

no, I believe you are a cat

[eager mulch]

that’s renhex

[left cedar]

i think he is something like a dwarf living underground

[storm heron]

has the +10 morale ended?

[left cedar]

Onsen event ?

[eager mulch]

amusement park demolished

[storm heron]

nice, -1 swaps needed

[left cedar]

+10 morale its quite gud into heavy farm ... each i do alot ... so isnt nice 4 me

[whole crypt]

but he's technically a bird

[topaz smelt]

What am i

[whole crypt]

rice

[topaz smelt]

It do be like that

[eager mulch]

racist

[viscid swift]

so what am I then

[eager mulch]

rice stopped playing al didn’t he?

[eager mulch]

to me, you are “person who plays wows”

[stark quiver]

you are cheeky
taking the forms of many names

[topaz smelt]

I'm login warrior now

[little tree]

Should I move to a pr5 ship while I collect fleet tech for Haku once im done with chesshire ?

[sweet delta]

if you finished avp and aegir and anchorage then ok

[little tree]

Yea Haku is the only one left in pr4

agir is dev 25

[sweet delta]

or if you havent built a 1 or 2 ship for catchup protocore

[little tree]

Got both thoes done

Monarch and fdg

[whole crypt]

you want a gold ship in PR2 done to spend the catchup

[little tree]

Oh didn't know that same thing for DR 3 ?

[whole crypt]

well PR3 up to you, I'd personally use the prints for Cheshire, PR2 is just less useful

[little tree]

I'm use chesshire thoes prints Will be used

But the 150 dr ?

[whole crypt]

yeh but PR2 you'll want to coin up the ship then spend the catchup on protocore

I'm talking about the gold ships, DR catchup is separate

[little tree]

Ahh

[whole crypt]

Drake I don't know, not really worth bothering, it's going to take quite a lot of time to finish her on coins without catchup as well

so whether you'll want to just hold off the catch up to finish her

or just leave it on the backburner for now

[sweet delta]

drake is a delayed infusion of protocore for your plygun or hinden gun

[whole crypt]

well if you're done with FdG then you could take your time with her free/discounted prints

[storm heron]

protocore must get, ships are temporary, equipments are eternal

[whole crypt]

but that would mean unlocking her first too

yeh but when you're caught up you'll have nothing to do with proto cores

[left cedar]

just keep buying stuff from past PRs to gear all ships in ur dock, cuz u lack of shitts to do

[whole crypt]

I actually keep 100 gear print selectors for every series for no apparent reason

[topaz smelt]

Is there really a reason to minmax protocores anymore, you get more than enough no?

[whole crypt]

the only one I've actually used is PR2 to craft rainbow AA

[whole crypt]

it's awkward, until it isn't

just like RLD tech

[topaz smelt]

You have enough for 457, tenrai and a few champys

Do you really need more

[whole crypt]

that's like 9000 cores

well 8000 ish if 3 champagne guns, then maybe more for BFGs

[left cedar]

i keep buying stuffs every month,
20 PR2 for Seattle gun
20 PR3 for Champy or Ches Gun
20 PR4 for Twin 90
and keep incrensing my Protocores ...

[vale spindle]

obligatory i did math already

[storm heron]

14250

[topaz smelt]

You should be focusing pr4 so you'll get enough bfs

[whole crypt]

so 7k or so, which is quite a number for someone who isn't generating excess prints yet

[topaz smelt]

How much does the missions give now? Wasn't it like 7-8k

[harsh radish]

what setting do i turn off so i wont see the portraits when i airstrike?

[viscid swift]

you can't

[topaz smelt]

A newb won't be getting any cores from bpa for like a year at least

[storm heron]

I'm starting to think ignoring all past dr and catchup for juicy protocores might be worth it

[whole crypt]

I don't remember how many CDPs each series of research missions are but you need to actually finish one ship each series on the way up to claim all of them

[topaz smelt]

You get a bit from cruise as well

[storm heron]

it's not like you need to since they are clearing the screen

[muted ember]

is there any UR Ships with unique augments?

[whole crypt]

cruise should be like 100 CDPs in 2 months, so 200 proto cores every 2 months

[stark quiver]

no well sandy if u count her

[rain bobcat]

no

[whole crypt]

bottom line you probably won't be claiming eough to get 457+Tenrai+3 champagne guns within the first 3 or so months

[rain bobcat]

I mean, when I think of UR i think of gacha not retro and DR

[whole crypt]

when I think UR I only think of gacha and Laffey II + Mogs

[topaz smelt]

It's still the most accessible cores

And champyguns are timegated

And I think they should be cut down to like 1-2

Flanguns are starting to be more prominent

[muted ember]

3 champy guns are good enough right?

[stark quiver]

yea

[whole crypt]

that only works if you're doing PR6 enough, and isn't flandre gun a timing thing that wouldn't really be relevant to most people who are still trying to get the guns

[rain bobcat]

3 for early player

[muted ember]

would this work better on London or Sandy?

[topaz smelt]

It's a timing thing but most ships are slow so you'll want the extra speed to sync better

[rain bobcat]

if you don't have other good gun on sandy sure

but tashgun is a coredata gun

[topaz smelt]

Not to mention it'll help make up the lack of tech

[muted ember]

using this on Sandy currently

[rain bobcat]

yeah no use twin 100 on sandy

[topaz smelt]

With the recent Urs they kinda prefer flanguns

[rain bobcat]

btw has sandy augment been "fixed"

[whole crypt]

by recent do we mean anyone besides Alsace

[topaz smelt]

Soy

[rain bobcat]

soy and alsace

[viscid swift]

do they though

[rain bobcat]

well alsace not really since she's still not fast enough

[topaz smelt]

A bit, depending on the fleet

[viscid swift]

it's not like we've had they many fights to really put them through their paces since they released

[rain bobcat]

but for soy atleast she mostly prefers flan

[whole crypt]

Soyuz is roughly BisZwei speed though, depends on what you want to do with the firing order and there's also Soyuz gun if you have Soyuz

[topaz smelt]

You prefer soy shooting before bz

[rain bobcat]

alsace with flan is still to slow to load before zwei so it doesn't rly matter if you put champ on her

unless uneven oathing is present

[topaz smelt]

And bz is much faster

[stone sluice]

Why Flan guns over champ guns?

[whole crypt]

I actually stopped looking at the fights and just stick with champagne and soyuz gun, shit just dies

[rain bobcat]

actually iirc champ gun zwei can load faster than flan gun soyuz so realistically zwei is locked to soy gun

[storm heron]

things have changed over the past decade

[topaz smelt]

And newbs won't have soygun

[viscid swift]

but they also won't have soyuz then most likely

[rain bobcat]

^ ifthey have soyuz they have soygun

[topaz smelt]

Even older stuff like NJ may prefer it

[viscid swift]

I can see the point but I just haven't seen too many places where the Flandre gun is relevant enough

[rain bobcat]

if they don't then the argument doesn't apply to them

[topaz smelt]

Comes down to the fleet

[rain bobcat]

NJ maybe but would saccing her dmg further be beneficial

[topaz smelt]

Her barrage is another buff

[viscid swift]

the main argument in favor of it as I see it is that you could get 2 Flandre Guns/1 Champy or vice versa quite a bit sooner than 3 Champys

[whole crypt]

yeh timegate is probably a better argument

[topaz smelt]

It's more of saving protocores

[stoic tulip]

Is it better to prioritize Plymouth, Brest, or Shimanto for world 15 stages?

[topaz smelt]

Ye and the timegate

[whole crypt]

you're probably not looking for that sort of timing adjustment if you're still struggling with obtaining the guns

[stark quiver]

shimanto

[rain bobcat]

shimanto then brest

[stoic tulip]

Plymouth is lowest priority? Wow! Is it because of aa?

[rain bobcat]

eh equal to or worse than brest for w15

a lot of on release clears used plymouth tank

[topaz smelt]

Brest is a lot more usable in 15

[rain bobcat]

but brest is technically better

[muted ember]

speaking of Alsace,when is her rerun banner?

[stoic tulip]

Should I just switch to pr6 research then? I'm probably about 80 percent done with pr5 but maybe 5 percent with six

[rain bobcat]

2026 minimum

[muted ember]

dang the wait for Fleuret is gonna take a while

[rain bobcat]

just finish pr5 and postpone w15 it's not like it's EN anni season that clearing w15 matters for flexing

[stoic tulip]

I figured i could try to complete more world 15 since I have almost finished building all my pr7 ships, just building not researching, so my oil is less constrained

[rain bobcat]

just farm tech

[stoic tulip]

Fleet tech?

[rain bobcat]

tech stats but yes

[kind needle]

Should I get more champy gun prints or ply gun prints?

[left cedar]

are w talking about proto ?
u already have 3 Champys ?
if yes, them u already got Tenrai ? if no, them Tenrai > Ply Gun
if yes u already got Tenrai and 3 Champys, them yeah its a option invest into Ply Gun

[stoic tulip]

Is it worth using core data to buy any guns from the shop? Like the taskent gun or something else?

I only gave one taskent gun from previous events

[topaz smelt]

Not really

[tropic tusk]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[stoic tulip]

Thanks!

[turbid latch]

just leveled up to 60, is op siren all about crafting gears?

[tropic tusk]

for now yes

actually forever yes

[turbid latch]

is it worth to grind for

I mean spend my time w it

[topaz smelt]

Highly recommend. Its where most of your gear comes from

[tropic tusk]

hell ya its how u get mats to craft gear

[jaunty vault]

you won't really be able to grind opsi at lvl60

[left cedar]

Op.Si is grindable with poverty fleets and poverty Gears, just need alot patience and clicks ... and consequently more time, but its doable

[storm heron]

what fighter is good for avp when fighting heavy?

timing flexible, can manjuu/beacon

[topaz smelt]

Fw

[storm heron]

So should I +13 my fws?

[left cedar]

if u are sitting in a bunch of plates and every basic plane already +13, so its a option, but idk, seens a bit of waste

[wet granite]

How many Wyverns should I be making for mobbing?

[topaz smelt]

Like 2

[storm heron]

any 1 shot setup for mark royale? maybe it's better if I just post whatever ship I have

[sweet delta]

ark is pretty much the easiest showdown so just throw any anti medium at her ~~and if you fail, ~~

[storm heron]

wait

medium?!

[wind hazel]

yes AR is medium

[storm heron]

lmao forget this conversation exist

[sweet delta]

sasuga hardstuck 15-2

[storm heron]

yeah hardstuck on the oil part

I reset many times too

[wind hazel]

[storm heron]

One day Imma get 16-4 to safe before u do

[sweet delta]

15-4

[storm heron]

you're still lethal?

[left cedar]

seens like i'm not the only one that is lazy to farm HouII as well

[wind hazel]

i dont think he has 15-4 on lethal for that reason

[topaz smelt]

I pretty much grinded h2 when Guam came out thinking it was enough for everyone to not need help. I was very wrong

[storm heron]

omg I one shat

Does shinano self buff her own AVI by 30%?

[raven marsh]

how do i auto call subs in opsi?

[storm heron]

click the perform order > submarine support

[ember totem]

first you need to do what fybredoggo said (or turn on the auto submarine support button feature)
then turn off Fleet Lock for one fight and turn the auto setting on

[storm heron]

is it possible to do auto call? There's only 6 barrages right?

[sweet delta]

15 + 15 is 30 so yes if she has 3 IJN

[civic crag]

This my gear and designs rn what should I turn my UR designs into

Ok, Also is musashi or vgd better for boss

[sweet delta]

which boss

[storm heron]

is there a torp lineup for kazagumo and unzen to sync with mog's miracle?

[sweet delta]

nothing syncs with mog for more than a fraction of salvos

[topaz smelt]

Quint mag unzen, quad mag kaza

Unzen needs 0 rld tech or 6ish rld unoathed

[storm heron]

finally something to waste rainbow torp design!

does that include 2 oxys?

[topaz smelt]

Ye

[storm heron]

but 2 oxys is 20 rld already

[topaz smelt]

I said tech

[civic crag]

Arbiter

And what does the +1 avi at level 120 mean

[sweet delta]

are you in a position to choose which URs you use?

[civic crag]

I’m deciding who to MLB

[storm heron]

+1 avi for ssv at level 120

[stark quiver]

you get +1 avi at level 120

[civic crag]

What does that mean for my damage

[sweet delta]

musashi for campaign or vanguard for other bosses

[stark quiver]

it means damage goes up

[storm heron]

imagine if you have 50 of those +1 avi

[indigo ore]

do meta ships count toward ships unlocked? Thanks.

[civic crag]

Is it very significant

[sweet delta]

they don't count toward non-META factions

[storm heron]

what about kaza though?

[stark quiver]

+1 isnt
itll add up

[topaz smelt]

She just shoots when ever, I think most of them fire when lined up

[civic crag]

Oh is that like the grinding tech thing every talks about

[stark quiver]

yea

[storm heron]

alright thanks for the information, now mog is gonna go crazy with the roots

[topaz smelt]

Mog needs to be tank for it to work

[storm heron]

ok ok

ouch the rainbow torps costs 5 of the Specialized Gear Upgrade Part

wait what if my unzen only have +10 rainbow oxytorps instead of +13, shouldn't the less rld makes I need more frm tech?

[topaz smelt]

I wouldn't recommend going for the strat unless you really want to try to 1 shot the maga

[storm heron]

I really want to, I have all the stuffs

[topaz smelt]

Nah lower is kinda better

You can tweak it if it looks a little late

Should be fine tho

[storm heron]

it is very late

all good though, thx for the help

[topaz smelt]

Kaza should be oxy + goldburn, offtank

[storm heron]

yuh no goldburn unfortunately

[topaz smelt]

I haven't test much with kaza outside of goldburn, try a hp aux instead

Ik kaza sometimes would fuck unzens torps

[storm heron]

yeah maybe next time

[topaz smelt]

Maybe red towel is enough, does that give rld?

[storm heron]

I saw kaza launch first, then pause, then unzen launch after mog got root

yes it does 3% but 15s only

[topaz smelt]

Could give that a shot

It's fine as long as unzen gets her torps off while infront of maga

[raven marsh]

should i get rainbow torps from core data? and if so how many should i get before stopping

[topaz smelt]

None

[storm heron]

so amagi shina haku mog kaza unzen gonna be the best non-gimmick lineup for 3 strike heavy

[topaz smelt]

Mog is the gimmick

The non gimmick setup is like implac amagi nano

A little weaker but should kill at a good rate

Same VG gimmick

But you don't get fucked as hard when mog misses

[forest palm]

[topaz smelt]

[crude kelp]

Is c2 map coordinates worth? Or better spend this ap into c5 secured zones?

[forest palm]

no reason not to do C2 Cords

[crude kelp]

I think i saw someone said you can get from cats from c5 secured zones more than from c2 cords.

[vale halo]

best aux for mogador for nagato meta?

[forest palm]

I don't think there's any hard data to really corroborate that, could be wrong

[topaz smelt]

Towel + em

[vale halo]

em?

[stone sluice]

What em stands for?

[topaz smelt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Anti-EM_Commands

[keen sable]

commands auntie em

[vale halo]

Ohh I see damn I thought that aux is bad cuz it didn't even explain in item description

[signal pollen]

Do I need more than 3 of these? maybe to make two bb opsi teams? or should I try to make a CV team

[crimson grove]

hello frens how do I tune this to be anti light
going to hit harbiter later

[vale halo]

use hvar for fighter and use skyraider on implacable

[crimson grove]

[indigo ore]

If I marry with Bismarck Zwei, do I get the oath skin of Bismarck?

[crimson grove]

i dont think so

its the other way around If I am not wrong

[indigo ore]

Yes, the other way works, but I want the oath stats too

[vale halo]

then you need to both marry it if you want both stats

[crimson grove]

[vale halo]

skyraider is really strong against light prob it is really slow plane which perfect for implacable since implacable is fast CV

[vale halo]

dont use 2 torpedo bomber in a light armor boss

2 fighter 1 torp bomber

[sweet delta]

you can use the oath skin on the one you oathed

[vale halo]

w8 how many hvar you have? @crimson grove

[sweet delta]

skyraider on implac is usually a waste, give it to shinano because tenrai is bad

[crimson grove]

yea the slots arent working out well I think I'm at 4

[vale spindle]

yes

[indigo ore]

Thanks, just tried it out, luckily it works

[vale spindle]

read the skin share section of the skins wiki page for more information

[crimson grove]

wah

[vale halo]

that would work dunno about sync of move stop of implacable

[crimson grove]

I wish the airstrike calc site allowed us to do multiple ships at the same time

[vale halo]

but yeah thats should pretty much set you up you gotta work around with your current gears
if have 5 hvars your pretty much set in any light armor boss

[elfin hollow]

hey guys what server is the best to start on or does that matter

[crimson grove]

thats the thing
not enough fighter slots for hvar lor

[vale halo]

oh yeahhh amagi cant equip 2 fight slots my bad lol @crimson grove

then your good now

[crimson grove]

[sweet delta]

Little Enterprise is the best for this month

[elfin hollow]

is there a reason? and they switch each month?

[crimson grove]

sushi any suggestions to this
I think slow down imp i dropped manju
drop junker for ryusei ig

[sweet delta]

medal shop is different for each server and rotates monthly

[vale halo]

you have other ur cvs? just asking or your just using ign ur cvs to clear light arbiter? @crimson grove

[elfin hollow]

Oh okay thanks.

[crimson grove]

I have all URs
just trying to see if they can pull it off

the alternative is regearing for a one fleet oneshot but I'm too dumb for that and that set up uses BBs ig

[vale halo]

they can it just the matter of consistency on killing it most of the time tbh

[opaque gate]

is this a solid amagi cv build?

[stark quiver]

no

[opaque gate]

in terms of level 80?

[stark quiver]

well i guess?
if its commander level

[stoic tulip]

Depends on armor type or enemy. Some would say an ideal heavy loudout would be tenrai + 2 Vit 2s

[soft dagger]

depends on timing as well

[stoic tulip]

I'm running tenrai with 2 ryusei and she does comparable numbers to new jersey even though my Amagi is only 120 and my NJ is 125

[crimson grove]

and context on what we are trying to do

[crimson grove]

what world is this

[stoic tulip]

Against Nagato meta

[hard stirrup]

my helena keeps dying during boss fights any tips or suggestions?

[topaz smelt]

Level her

[crimson grove]

have her in the middle ig
and her level and gear possibly ye

[late flame]

swap with ayanami

[elfin hollow]

are there beginner guides, like what ships to choose on the first 3 and what ships to look out for etc.

[soft dagger]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

[topaz smelt]

Follow the starter fleet recc

[desert tapir]

Who is a good barrage battle ship to flag for World 11 mob?

[elfin hollow]

the link doesn't work for me

[fickle hollow]

Shinano+Amagi(CV) work with izumo?

[desert tapir]

Getting a lot of disgust emotes. Am I thinking of the wrong mechanic for clearing bomb boats?

[soft dagger]

no that means hood. they recommending hood

[desert tapir]

🤦‍♂️ I'm sorry

[late flame]

[sweet delta]

Works quite suboptimally

[fickle hollow]

what would be a better fit with amagi and shinano then

[sweet delta]

without any further context i would just say Implacable

[desert tapir]

Right so their hood is level 39, and Shinano ( who I used to brute force it) is also under 90.
They have Prinz Rupprecht, Mushi, Biisco, FDG, Alabama, and Ulrich for bb over 100.
For CV over 100 they have Uni, AVP, Weser, Graf Zepplen, and Petter strass.

For mob Prinz, Uni and FDG. (all 125)

For boss AVP Weser and Strass( all 125)

is my thought with what they have but I would like a second opinion because I know I'm so so at best in this game.

[dusk niche]

Whay is the best way to level up your rank? I want to reach level 80 to try out the 3d dorm but I cant seem to find a viable way to get there

[wind hazel]

sortie at highest campaign stage with 3:3 fleet

[desert tapir]

Just working through camapign will get your there.

[fickle hollow]

oh sorry, i am about to complete my 1st PR ship izumo
i am currently using unicorn(retro) with amagi and shinano
and swap unicorn with enterprise for bosses

[dusk niche]

I made it to 9-1 but i cant progress anymore since im not 65 so should i just spam 8-4?

[desert tapir]

If you can't spam 9-1 yes.
Though spamming 9-1 would be best as its the first Oil cap stage

[sweet delta]

you usually want at least 1 BB per fleet and unicorn on the mob or single fleet for campaign

[topaz smelt]

This is where you look towards war archives for kms tech

[fickle hollow]

then would it be better to use izumo unicorn amagi for campaign

[sweet delta]

if that's your only fleet then ok

[desert tapir]

bump

[sweet delta]

3 star shinano sucks anyways

[fickle hollow]

thanks for the help

[sweet delta]

everything is max limit broken?

[desert tapir]

For the ones listed? Yes
Except for hood

[soft dagger]

I'd suggest opening a thread because if a bunch of 125 ships can't push through w11, then it's going to be an issue somewhere

[desert tapir]

There just asking me to build the fleet and have not tried. Kinda hopeing if I do more then toss Ultra rares and 125s into a fleet they will actually pay attetion an learn something.

[sweet delta]

then mob: fdg uni someone
boss: CV musashi bisz

[desert tapir]

Thank you Sushigummy. I will see it done... I hope

[brisk cedar]

is there any guides with exact shcedules for that TB Tamagochi ? some endings there seems impossible

[vale spindle]

#1204845559790440488 check pins here

[frank pulsar]

for heavy, is triple ijn cv + mog better or amagi nano implac better

i want to know triple ijn cv viability outside of magato

[zenith heron]

If Soyuz is best against Medium Armor, who is 2nd best against it? Musashi or Zwei?

[frank pulsar]

zwei probably…? im not too sure

[hollow gust]

Honestly would just use Eldridge , her slow is sufficient for heavy arby

[frank pulsar]

so triple ijn > amagi nano implac for heavy?

[hollow gust]

Pure damage triple IJN is far above anything

[frank pulsar]

okay ty

[brisk cedar]

thank you

[fervent hearth]

Let’s say I already have 3 UR BB from the prototype shop would I buy the forth one? Or the Plymouth gun I’m kinda in need for those rn

[brisk cedar]

And opsi question ? Is thieve really just monthly luck ? I am trying to get these stars for years at this point and they are only thing stoping me from getting 360

[frank pulsar]

are you talking about the rainbow 457? just 3 is enough, get the plymouth gun instead

[fervent hearth]

Ye

[coarse heron]

Literally just RNG yeah

[topaz smelt]

While being far below everything if it doesn't hit

[hollow gust]

Eldridge works most of the time

[topaz smelt]

Hasn't worked for me

[hollow gust]

Killed both harby and nagato very consistently

[brisk cedar]

I can’t get them for years

[topaz smelt]

Inb4 fps diff

[bright glen]

What's the best aircraft comp for Amagi?

[coarse heron]

Out of my BBs, who would be best to use for BB fleet in OpSi?
I’ve been using FdG for mob fleet currently

[uneven tiger]

Quick question, is it possible to get hiei meta crystals now that the event is over? or do i need to wait for rerun

[bright glen]

You can buy it from the shop, if you have enough points. If you don't have enough, you'll have to wait for the rerun.

[uneven tiger]

Gotcha, thanks!

[coarse heron]

Her crystals will get added to the Meta shop at some point fairly soon

how soon?

Oh they're already there

They ain't cheap though, 80 crystal fragments each

[bright glen]

It's 60 in my shop, and some are unobtainable... bruh.

[coarse heron]

You can only buy as many as you need for MLB

[bright glen]

Nvm, I just haven't obtain certain ships, and can't buy their crystals.

[hybrid schooner]

Is this good enough for W13 mobbing? I only remember Sandy being extremely good at AA

[crimson glacier]

its insanely total overkill

literally every ship other than sandy was released way after w13 and is much stronger than any option it was designed around

[sweet delta]

It's good enough for w15 with some resetting

[west lichen]

any idea when the next event should be coming? I know they just had two back to back I'm just curious

[coarse heron]

probably next week

[hybrid schooner]

Thank you kindly 🫡

[queen jackal]

whats a good war archive beside chessboard i should do

[sweet merlin]

how much butter is it and is it worth the cost?

[coarse heron]

the only reason you do War Archive is to collect waifu (or for KMS fleet tech)

[hybrid schooner]

One more question. Which URs should I get from Gear Lab considering what I have? Been thinking about 1 more Wyvern & maybe 1 AA gun to make those plane hell worlds easier.

[verbal thistle]

The torps lol

[coarse heron]

all that core data

[topaz smelt]

Either save for more tenrai, get more spearfish or wyvs

[frank pulsar]

yea get more wyvern, 2-3 is nice
you prob wont use more than 4 of those rainbow aa at the same time if you do want to make more rainbow aa

[topaz smelt]

You prob don't need more wyvs or spearfish that's prob enough

[verbal thistle]

How many spearfish is a good number?

[frank pulsar]

like 1 i guess?

[wary timber]

should i spice things up and build a Tigercat to mix things up a bit

[topaz smelt]

Like 2-3

They're just better wyvs in all context

[verbal thistle]

Hmm.. I'll stop at 2 for now then.

[wary timber]

for context i have a stockpile of hellcats. so i wonder if a Tigercat is worth

[topaz smelt]

They're just expensive af so it's hard to recommend

[frank pulsar]

spearfish > wyvern even in lower campaign? wyvern would just one shot regardless no?

[topaz smelt]

Spearfish is also significantly faster

[vital phoenix]

Based on conversations i saw here... C1 farming is for exp, c5 for ap dump, c3 for (more efficient?) gold plates farming?

[coarse heron]

C6 is for AP dump, C5 is best farming, imo

technically C3 might be more "Efficient" but it'll take a lot longer

[torn latch]

Farming for what exactly? Some gold mats?

[coarse heron]

5 can have up to 2 cat nodes, 3 can only have 1. 5 also has 7 resource nodes, compared to 3 for 3.

C4 is 2nd best for XP farming and frankly a better use of your time for it unless your time is completely worthless and you don't mind constantly clicking to enter C1 zones

[sharp socket]

5 has more gold mats, but 3 has more gold plates iirc

c1 is a slog because people do that to get more AP from akashi shop

which means you have to check it to buy stuff from akashi shop which isnt autoable, plus c1 only takes 5 AP so itll take really long to spend AP

[coarse heron]

C1 is like 2-1 lawnmowing back in the day. It's technically the best but it's not worth the effort.

[topaz smelt]

2-1 was never good

[wary timber]

also i know that Tenrais are superior dive bombers but are there any thats not bad too other than the Helldiver

[topaz smelt]

C1 is at least a positive reward for the effort

[coarse heron]

the Gold Helldiver is "technically" better but only when it's +13 so no just make Helldivers

[topaz smelt]

What?

Gold diver is always better just not worth making

[wary timber]

i only made one of those in protest of the game not letting me build my wyvern last month

[torn latch]

Wait a minute, XP farming in OpSi? Sounds cursed

Why someone have to do this? Because they ran out of oil?

[coarse heron]

Because they're trying to hoard oil

[topaz smelt]

I got no idea where any of this info is coming from. First I've heard any of it

[wary timber]

also.... does gold boxes not drop FR.47s at all

[coarse heron]

and yeah XP farming in OpSi is awful, people came up with the idea because it's technically "free"

[frank pulsar]

whats an fr.47

[wary timber]

a fighter bomber...

[coarse heron]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Equipment#Equipment_box_contents anyway you can see what they drop here

[frank pulsar]

eagle boxes drop hellcats which are fighters with bombs if thats what youre asking

[coarse heron]

the only "fr 47" I know of is the Seafire from the Gear Lab.

[hybrid schooner]

I probably have enough to be able to buy a thing or two & then get tenrais, too. You said pr spearfish is better than wyvern, so 3 in total should be fine, right?

[topaz smelt]

I'd prob hold off on the spearfish and wait for tenrais

[frank pulsar]

lmao i have never even heard of this plane

[topaz smelt]

Make another wyv if you feel you need more mobbing tbs

[coarse heron]

it's used to make the Sea Hornet which isn't worth making

[hybrid schooner]

Gotcha, thanks

[frank pulsar]

ive got one for timing but i barely use it

[topaz smelt]

Even if it's better I don't think it's better enough to give up 3/4th tenrai

[wary timber]

now that i look at it.... im actually not far off a spearfish. should i ?

[crimson glacier]

what would you use it on

[topaz smelt]

If you need to ask ,read what I just said

I use it on everything now a days

[wary timber]

probably the most random CV ever

[topaz smelt]

Mine are pretty much perma stuck on indep and uni

[wary timber]

wait..... Spearfish dont intercept right...

[summer echo]

can someone help me with my team? i struggle a bit to beat the story mode

[frank pulsar]

whats the harby this month

[sharp socket]

max limit break your ships one at a time, starting with enterprise and portland
take out new jersey shes shit at 0lb
retrofit portland > laffey > unicorn > helena

[frank pulsar]

drop nj for like pennsylvania or nelson, max limit break all the ships youre using

[summer echo]

who do i change for new jersey?

[sharp socket]

pennsylvania

get in guild shop

[summer echo]

thank you both sm 🙏

[frank pulsar]

also retrofit prio should be uni > portland > laffey >>> helena

[summer echo]

thank u once again

[zenith swallow]

How to tell what purple and above gear are not worth keeping?

[mint flint]

safe to scrap page https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[blazing shale]

Outdated, no?

[frank pulsar]

wtf im dented

[zenith swallow]

This was updated like a year ago

[frank pulsar]

its still more or less accurate

[mint flint]

it's still basically true

[atomic abyss]

they havent added any new gear to techboxes in years @blazing shale@zenith swallow

[zenith swallow]

Damn

[atomic abyss]

so the guide is still accurate

in fact

i think the few gear they did add after the game launched are mostly useful

quad mags being one of them

[blazing shale]

Doesn't the guide mix in gear that the ships actually need? Like aegir's non event main gun

[atomic abyss]

the other notable one is the precursor for the ju-87 d-4

tbh

the arcing triple 283 is a shit gun

you might as well use a proper CA gun in the interrim

you'll definitely get an agir gun before agir is even usable to begin with

and yes, agir's gun is from research to begin with

[polar lion]

Is Spearfish good for ST bossing?

[crimson glacier]

no

[atomic abyss]

they're not converging

why would they be

also rice is smoking as usual

[wary timber]

so... should i make a flapjack or tigercat to replace the VF17 corsairs on my Shinano/ i can build both

[atomic abyss]

flapjacks to upgrade your f4us

tigercats to upgrade your hellcats

[blazing shale]

Flapjack's more commonly used for syncs afaik

[atomic abyss]

flapjack is just better

[polar lion]

Is Spearfish outright better than Wyvern for mobbing?

[crimson glacier]

no

[atomic abyss]

damage wise yes, AA wise no

[wary timber]

hmmm

[atomic abyss]

there is no scenario where you craft spearfishes BEFORE wyverns

correction - there is no scenario where you even need spearfishes

rice is just smoking

[frank pulsar]

there is also no scenario where you need wyverns
as always, spearfish or wyvern depends on your setup and what yr trying to do

[atomic abyss]

this comment only makes sense IF you already have enough AA carries for w15

on the basis that your spearfishes "clear enemies faster", and you have enough AA to compensate

but for most people, that is not gonna happen

[blazing shale]

Are there fleetmaker builds for the fastest opsi mob fleets?

[atomic abyss]

there's so many variants

[late flame]

tbh i'm hesitant to craft spearfish simply becos its so much more costly compared to wyvern

[blazing shale]

If uni & indep are in it

[frank pulsar]

fastest opsi mob fleets are just fast triple cv with tanky dps vanguard

[atomic abyss]

uni indep + 1 more CV

another preload like aquila/chise
or an early first strike like impero/bearnM

[coarse heron]

I did Aquila plus Percy with Ibuki and Shimakaze in vanguard, if it doesn't explode in the first 8 seconds it's because it took too long to spawn in

[atomic abyss]

as for planes?

rocket fighters and the usual stuff for other slots

[frank pulsar]

and thats why stacking preloads isnt a good idea

[atomic abyss]

if you have your spearfishes for some reason - this is where they'll be best

[frank pulsar]

fast loading cv like impero and indep are better for precisely this reason

[blazing shale]

Oh I see

[zenith swallow]

Are the gears that are found in event shops just unaccessible now?

[atomic abyss]

for events that have not been war archived, yes

[coarse heron]

they go to Gear Lab eventually
How eventually is eventually? War Archive at the earliest.

[atomic abyss]

for those that have, yeah gear lab eventually

cant wait for skyraider + hvar in gearlab

[coarse heron]

Admiralty Table will go core data for sure

[sharp socket]

alsace is fine to be flag for bb fleet in everything except CM right

[atomic abyss]

yeah

[storm olive]

Wait impero > Chkalov for ops mob?

[polar lion]

dat line is for fast clear purpose

[frank pulsar]

dmg wise chka is better, but opsi mobs die regardless so impero being faster makes her better

[storm olive]

I have both so I may as well go for the faster clear

[atomic abyss]

impero and bearnM are like indep - they have faster first strikes

[topaz smelt]

The amount of AA wyvs give in 15 is trivial compared to everything you already have, if your AA is bad enough where wyvs make a difference you've already lost

When you have like ~30 fighters that are significantly better than +4 wyverns do you really think it'll make a difference

[atomic abyss]

as much as the spearfishes im sure

[topaz smelt]

Spearfishes does enough damage to take out elites so it is very significant

[frank pulsar]

spearfish rockets help kill the elites noticeably faster

[topaz smelt]

While being much faster for better damage uptime

[tacit jasper]

made a Fleet of level 100-105 & a lvl 125 healer CV to fight Escorts on "Safe 12-4"

is this a good idea? or should i wait till they get to 110+?

[topaz smelt]

And the fighters probably account for like 30% of your AA

[atomic abyss]

it's more than enough

[frank pulsar]

lv90 is good enough with good gear

[tacit jasper]

thanks! 👍 was a little worried

[atomic abyss]

with a healer, even 80 is enough

[storm olive]

Does this mean I should stay on chk since I use my mob for stronghold clearing or should impero clear regardless

[atomic abyss]

whichever you want

[frank pulsar]

if impero works use impero, otherwise use chka

[atomic abyss]

you could just

[wary timber]

i use Wyverns in tandem with my AA

[atomic abyss]

swap to chkalov when clearing strongholds

i always leave strongholds for the end of the month for this reason

[polar lion]

Wyvern or Flapjack better interception uptime?

[atomic abyss]

[tacit jasper]

1 last thing...

i have an old fleet with "outdated gear" like 3-4 yrs old think they'll still be enough for chapter 12-13? (lvls are 120 though)

[atomic abyss]

one is a TB, one is a fighter, the fighter will do more

good outdated gear is enough for 13, let alone 12

[tacit jasper]

yey~

[atomic abyss]

w13 came out 5 years ago - stuff from back then can definitely clear it

[uneven badger]

how to make aichi B7A tb hits enemy bosses? :)

[atomic abyss]

you use slowers like ark, or ideally freezers like august

[uneven badger]

how bout agir?

[topaz smelt]

She's a fake slow

[atomic abyss]

at least use eldridge

agir slow is quite cope cos it still relies on her torps hitting

[topaz smelt]

Timing is impossible as well in the long run

[uneven badger]

i see

but i need to put amagi, shinano and hakuryu

[sharp socket]

is there an anti light conv tb

[atomic abyss]

which boss is this

[uneven badger]

13-4 boss