gameplay-help

[remote yarrow]

And just use the same gear for all 3, with mk6/mk7 for guns

Cheeky sent an image earlier that it shouldn't be too hard since he even used 2 AP guns which isn't optimal and still beat it

[desert tapir]

I tried two copy the set u with all three already .. but Mushi was almost always calculated at a full 0.90 seconds slower then the others.
Good to know Cheeky sweeped her.

[remote yarrow]

Then swap Musashi for Vanguard

[finite crag]

what is this for helmet?

[desert tapir]

already on it

[remote yarrow]

Sashi just can't sync on Light sadly

[finite crag]

oh 3 ur bb and she'll evaporate dont overthink it

[stark quiver]

you wouldnt use her anyways

[sharp socket]

is nameta less damaging than michita such that i can dont run 2 tanks + helena in frontline

[viscid swift]

No clue

[plain saffron]

From data looks like that

Main Tank will probably die

[stoic tendon]

Late game does it just make sense to run 120/125's at higher world levels to farm chips and just get XP from dorm?

[wind hazel]

unless you run out of ships to farm, no

[remote yarrow]

leveling ships in dorm would probably take you a few months to get a single ship to 120

[stoic tendon]

The ships that need to farm XP won't survive in the chip farming levels. Maybe one in a fleet that supports them

[remote yarrow]

Do W12

[viscid swift]

12-1 is a chip farming level

[stoic tendon]

I forget 12 gives chips. It's such a small amount

[wind hazel]

can do 13-1 with unicorn+5 leveling ships

that's if you are running out of ships that wanna level, really. and even then you can push for 14-1 too in that case

[stoic tendon]

Probably, but the X-1 levels give more XP than chips/money

[wind hazel]

what

[stoic tendon]

For oil ratio

[wind hazel]

x-1 give more cogs per oil ratio than x-4

[plain saffron]

Chips drop is same from 1 to 4

[stoic tendon]

Ah, I thought 4 gave more. Well, I'd certainly rather get more gold than XP, since I can't get chips fast enough for the ships I need to level as it is now.

[plain saffron]

But 4 is harder than 1

[wind hazel]

sounds like 6 shitter 12-4 routine then

[stoic tendon]

UR gets 125, but everything else goes to 110 and stops, since I know that can't lose any XP

[plain saffron]

If you 1 you need less max levelled ship to carry

[stoic tendon]

I'm just getting greedy and should run a boss fleet in the dorm. Easier to auto

A full crossfleet support team that does nothing is just so helpful

"nothing"

[sharp socket]

whats a heavy armor dossier without dumb rng mechanics i can test damage on

[rain bobcat]

when is jp stream, 9th?

[remote yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNE42EzfCE4

[rain bobcat]

alright ty

[remote yarrow]

6PM JST for game news

[rain bobcat]

arizona is heavy

[sharp socket]

alr ty

[rain bobcat]

i forgot if there are any others, arizona is ok unless ur vanguard flops

[remote yarrow]

She isn't tho, she's med

[rain bobcat]

[remote yarrow]

OH EN NVM

[viscid swift]

Arizona is heavy....

[remote yarrow]

for some reason I read Ark I'm blind

[sharp socket]

before i start testing id like to ask if someone else has measured +10 457 vs +13 champagne before when put in a fleet with helena

[rain bobcat]

QE is heavy too

[rain bobcat]

champagne is better

[remote yarrow]

But she has a "dumb mechanic"

[rain bobcat]

457 will only be equal/better if you get a full extra shot at equal upgrade

[sweet delta]

But it's not a "dumb rng mechanic"

[sharp socket]

im using these 2 fleets to test

[sweet delta]

You're testing with Helena?

[remote yarrow]

Arizona if you meant the fight

[wind hazel]

helena introduce rng in your fleet

[sweet delta]

And without ply

[sharp socket]

you can go math it yourself but the first fleet completely syncs and the second fleet only vanguard syncs and the other 2 fall out of sync on 2nd shot

[rain bobcat]

use soyuz gun on vg and probably flandre on soyuz to be sure

[viscid swift]

Not quite sure what exactly you're trying to prove

[rain bobcat]

you either test with ply and no helena or with both ngl

helena just makes testing a pain in the arse

[sharp socket]

which is why ill be testing over an extended period of time

[rain bobcat]

or just test without her

[viscid swift]

Arizona META also requires the use of a completely different vanguard pretty much of you want to get consistent results

[rain bobcat]

literally the same effect

[sharp socket]

i had a feeling this wouldnt be very simple to test

[remote yarrow]

My question is what are you trying to test?

[rain bobcat]

probably wants to min max dmg

[hollow gust]

[rain bobcat]

in which case with helena you champagne and call it a day

[sharp socket]

+10 457 vs +13 champagne factoring in a full fleet and not just vacuum

[viscid swift]

That's a bit stupid to be honest

[rain bobcat]

if 1 ship deals more dmg with champ than 457 that just means you x3 the results

[hollow gust]

if you get the same amount of shots, the champanges will always be better...

[rain bobcat]

champ is always better unless ur getting 1 full salvo more like i said

[wind hazel]

not to mention +13 lol

[viscid swift]

Because there's so many external factors that could tip the results in favor of one or the other

[sharp socket]

the 457 has 4 salvos on a meta fight length

[rain bobcat]

not even equal upgradep

[rain bobcat]

so does champ

[sharp socket]

it doesnt for my fleet

[viscid swift]

Yes, but so can the Champaign gun depending on the ships, reload text and oathing

[sharp socket]

no rld no oath

[rain bobcat]

you dont have rld tech

[stark quiver]

only 4?

[rain bobcat]

regardless its still worse because its +10

[wind hazel]

b-but what if helena proc 100% for 457

[sharp socket]

no one has tested this before from when i asked around which is why im going to

[rain bobcat]

its a bad comparison thats why no one has thought to test it before

[stark quiver]

what meta are you testing on?

[stoic tendon]

Good to see gameplay-help hasn't changed...

[hollow gust]

no max tech = no oneshot = doesnt matter

[rain bobcat]

[stark quiver]

how much rld tech would i need to one shot usually? around 13-14 im guessing? with no oath

[rain bobcat]

with no oath near max

[stark quiver]

thats nice

[viscid swift]

It depends as always, the more the better though

[sharp socket]

i know it wont oneshot but maybe itll be more consistent 2 shot; and itll be interesting to see how far i can get with a non maxed account

[rain bobcat]

with oath 12 is usually enough

[viscid swift]

Against what META even though

[stark quiver]

bro i have 8 without oath lol

[rain bobcat]

[sharp socket]

arizona meta currently

[hollow gust]

we havent had full bb fleets for meta in a long time

[viscid swift]

Arizona META comps favor CVs anyway

Her stop times line up pretty well with CV airstrikes

[stark quiver]

could try to go test on hiryuuM

[hollow gust]

Also stream is tommorow?

[sharp socket]

ill find an environment where i can test on

[remote yarrow]

September 7th 12:00 JST and 18:00 JST for the new info

[hollow gust]

It's so early

[stark quiver]

yea hiryuuM

[remote yarrow]

That's for AriM?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[hollow gust]

zooooomiiies

[viscid swift]

Speed really is king

[finite crag]

what about rld tech for this

[viscid swift]

Max

[finite crag]

has to be max?

[viscid swift]

Though there's some wiggle room

[quartz jungle]

Wait why Musashi with 460mm, is this to sync with stop times lol

[wispy pendant]

Does bonus experience points count for research experience?

[vale spindle]

yes

[quartz breach]

Fuck I skipped on too many Wichita META boss runs and only just realized that boss fight is gone. When is the next time I'll be able to do them again? I didn't finish limit breaking her.

It will come back later right?

Do we have a timeframe for when the reruns happen?

[forest palm]

[rose cosmos]

Witchia meta looks so hot

[gaunt dagger]

Does fuel limit change based on amount of ships?

[stoic tendon]

I don't think so

[remote yarrow]

Yes, every ship has it's own oil cost, but early don't worry about it and just progress in campaign using a full fleet, if you are talking about oil cap it's a set number for each stage

[stoic tendon]

If you stay under it, you'll save oil, but otherwise...a limit is a limit. Run your biggest gas guzzlers if there's a limit.

[gaunt dagger]

Yes I was talking about oil cap.

[vale spindle]

oil cost is determined on a per ship basis, each ship has its own cost, which is added up to determine the oil cost of the fleet
however most stages later in the game have an oil-cap that limits the maximum oil cost of a fleet artifically regardless of the ships used

[gaunt dagger]

Also is there like a detailed guide that explains research?

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[gaunt dagger]

Oh hi it’s samheart the guide guy

Also one more question if I do an oil cap stage manually will the oil consumption possibly be above the oil cap?

[stoic tendon]

I don't think there's a way to go above the oil cap

[remote yarrow]

Here's tldr on which ships you should focus on but read the guide that sam sent regardless
FdG > Anchorage > Agir > rest of PR4 > Plymouth > Rest of PR5

[remote yarrow]

No, oilcap is a set amount that varies for each stage

[stoic tendon]

Each fight has a set cap. Running subs will cost more, but all the oil costs are in the fight

[plain saffron]

As long as clearing mode is on it will always use oil cap

If you turn off clearing mode then oil cap is gone

[desert tapir]

Sorry for the late reply power when out along with cell data. I will apply this advice tomarow. good night

[gaunt dagger]

Oh I see

Man I’m so sad I missed like 3 good bb events when I wasn’t playing lmao

[gaunt dagger]

Also pardon me but what about kearsarge

[remote yarrow]

Prioritize the ones and I noted first, after that you can go for PR6 or PR7

Kearsarge is from PR6

[frank pulsar]

kearsarge mentioned

[gaunt dagger]

Also I’m confused because the guide says get roon first if I don’t have enough fleet tech for Freddie

[remote yarrow]

That is correct

[gaunt dagger]

But doesn’t unlocking 1 ship do very little towards fleet tech?

[remote yarrow]

Well it helps

Give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms

[frank pulsar]

im a believer that pr6 > pr7 but it prob fine to go for either after you finish yr earlier priorities

[gaunt dagger]

Should I be keeping the yellows and epics I get from stages?

[remote yarrow]

yellows and epics what?

[gaunt dagger]

Okat. I just like kearsarge design

[gaunt dagger]

Yellow and purple ships (sorry I forgot term)

[frank pulsar]

it actually gives a good amount
leveling like 7-8 ships is enough to unlock a ship from a relevant faction

[gaunt dagger]

Oh ok

[remote yarrow]

Go ahead, there's no reason to not keep them use dupes to limit break them eventually

[gaunt dagger]

Bruh I’ve been retiring

Cause I don’t wanna run out of dock space

[remote yarrow]

Just buy more with your F2P gems

You get 250 gems for 3* a whole chapter

[frank pulsar]

it safer to keep ships if you dont know whether theyre good or not
most of yr f2p gem is supposed to go towards yr dock space so that you dont run out

[gaunt dagger]

I don’t have that much f2p gems tho

I have like 1.1k and I need 500 for second floor

[plain saffron]

If you want to retire, retire ship that easy to get

[gaunt dagger]

Should I keep whites as well then?

Also idk how to keep track of what ships I have and where I get the rest from

[remote yarrow]

You can use common ships for enhancing the ones you are using or other random ones

[plain saffron]

White all easy to get

[frank pulsar]

as f2p you get arnd 4k gem guaranteed
after you spend arnd 800 gem for one dorm slot and second floor you have plenty to spend on dock space

[plain saffron]

Blue some are rare

[gaunt dagger]

Well I spent extra gems on 4th dorm slot so I have less but alr that does seem like plenty

[frank pulsar]

just stay away from buying skin and stuff and youre good

[gaunt dagger]

Wait so is there like a way to keep track of what stage purples and yellows and blues I’m missing

[remote yarrow]

Check the wiki https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ship_Drops

[plain saffron]

That shows drop only ship iirc

[remote yarrow]

Well most of the ships he's getting rn are drops

[gaunt dagger]

What’s iirc

[plain saffron]

Like drop and only drop

[remote yarrow]

If I remember correctly

[plain saffron]

If i remember correctly what

[plain saffron]

Like the one you never get? In archive

[remote yarrow]

Btw since we were talking about the Research topic earlier, you might have or eventually get these, do not use them to rush/finish the Combat Data Collection missions that PR ships ask you to do, analyze all of them for Prototype Core over at Depot > Item

[gaunt dagger]

Bruh dlc, expand so expensive

[plain saffron]

You can click on each to see if it's dropable

[gaunt dagger]

Yep I’m doing that do

[gaunt dagger]

In archive

Are there any other ones?

[remote yarrow]

Not War Archives, the collection archive

[gaunt dagger]

Oh

So I should keep all non whites basically

[remote yarrow]

Probably yes

[gaunt dagger]

I have so many gold and purple bulins bruh they’re actually taking up so much space

[plain saffron]

Also you get gems from CNY and anniversary

[remote yarrow]

Are you limit breaking your ships?

[gaunt dagger]

Only the ones in my fleet

[plain saffron]

I would keep bulins enough for events usually

The rest use to mlb ships

[gaunt dagger]

What does that mean?

[plain saffron]

To mlb all next event ship

[gaunt dagger]

Why do u need to do that

[plain saffron]

Because event frame

[remote yarrow]

And some might be good

[gaunt dagger]

Wait but can’t u just limit break later

[remote yarrow]

Like last event Indiana was a pretty good ship, so you would save 4 SR bulins to limit break her

It's just in case

[plain saffron]

You need to mlb in event time to get frame

[gaunt dagger]

What’s frame?

[plain saffron]

If you don't care just use all your bulins

Chat frame. It's just cosmetics

[gaunt dagger]

Ohh ok

[remote yarrow]

And btw by this you meant that you are analyzing them, right?

[gaunt dagger]

Yeah

[remote yarrow]

Alright good

[gaunt dagger]

Also how do i make my dock not show duplicates

[remote yarrow]

You can't, but you can sort by level and the dupes just go down the list

[gaunt dagger]

But then rarity is mixed

Also how the heck do I level up all these ships to level 70 for fleet tech?

[remote yarrow]

Don't worry about fleet tech early on

[keen sable]

97 books. easy peasy

[gaunt dagger]

Blue?

[gaunt dagger]

But how do I research then don’t I need fleet tech for ships

[remote yarrow]

You won't be focusing on grinding Shipyard until later on, for now you can send them to random commissions

[gaunt dagger]

Okat

[remote yarrow]

I suggest you save the books to level up the ships you'll eventually use for a second fleet once you start working on it

[gaunt dagger]

Okay

[remote yarrow]

So you don't need to level them from level 1

[gaunt dagger]

All the good limited bbs already got rerun tho :(

[remote yarrow]

You don't need them to progress early on

[gaunt dagger]

But i wan good bbs

[remote yarrow]

You already got Enterprise from Medal shop, so you can get Hood from rookie rewards, there you have 1 decent BB and retrofit Nelson which is another decent BB

[gaunt dagger]

I already got hood form medal shop lol

[remote yarrow]

Well where's your concern then?

[gaunt dagger]

So from what I’ve read my next step to take is make a boss and mob fleet right

[remote yarrow]

once you finish W9 yes

[gaunt dagger]

Oh that’s still far bruh

So what should I do for now? I’m only level 52 but my fleet 1 is almost maxed

[remote yarrow]

You can go ahead and get Zuihou from event T3,if you already farmed her you can go farm Divergent Chessboard for Iron Blood ships

[gaunt dagger]

Yep already doing both xD

[remote yarrow]

Well keep doing that

[keen sable]

make fleet 2...

[gaunt dagger]

Alr

[gaunt dagger]

That’s what I’m thinking with what tho

[keen sable]

no idea what you have

[gaunt dagger]

Nothing

[keen sable]

then i guess you can't

[gaunt dagger]

Yea :/

Ok well gn guys thanks for the help

[blissful hamlet]

will there be stream for the jp anni?

[remote yarrow]

Sept 7th 12:00 JST, 18:00 for in game info

[blissful hamlet]

tommorrow

[stark quiver]

tmo strema reveals new UR?

[shell willow]

highly likely

[remote yarrow]

It should unless the devs bait us

[dusk maple]

i forgot, check their stream schedule, it lasts for 2 days

[remote yarrow]

While we get a 2~3 hour stream, JP bros are lucky

[blissful hamlet]

where's the stream link

[remote yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNE42EzfCE4

[blissful hamlet]

[civic crag]

Is this it once I clear out this shop nothing else to buy?

[blissful hamlet]

it will restock every month

[remote yarrow]

Yep, though R2 and R3 coords are kinda bad

[civic crag]

Oh, but like last season I had this shop that resets every 3 days?

[sinful escarp]

if you have nothing else to buy, might as well get them for the point shop after reset

[remote yarrow]

Yeah this is the Opsi you get after doing that

[remote yarrow]

Gibraltar is kinda skippable if you don't need the Meta stuff, better to save your Tokens for more vouchers

[blissful hamlet]

I'd buy R2 and R3 and cope for the cat node to give me something good

[umbral briar]

Ask, Why does the same rarity have different maximum upgrades?
Does that also apply to Rarity above?

[civic crag]

How do I spawn strongholds

[remote yarrow]

They spawn by themselves every monday

[civic crag]

How many

[remote yarrow]

2 at the start of Opsi and 1 every monday after that until reset

[vale spindle]

its based on the "tier" of the equipment, which is the T number you see on equipment
the T number doesn't correspond to how good the equipment is, its just the game's way of marking the same equipment amongst different rarities

so basically only the higher rated versions of an equipment can go past the usual upgrade cap

[umbral briar]

so the fewer digits the higher? like T0 >T1

[whole crypt]

T0 is not higher, T0 is unique
T3 > T2 > T1 otherwise

the tier isn't really relevant for any comparison besides for gear of the exact same name because that is the only case where the tier denotes a better version of the "same" gear

[remote yarrow]

And it also doesn't mean a higher "tier" gear is always better, there's some really bad T3 and T0 stuff

[whole crypt]

basically gear "tier" is just not relevant for consisderation of quality

[soft raft]

Oh hey 9:45 PM for me
That's surprising

[whole crypt]

what timezone because the game info stuff isn't happening till later

18:00‐20:00『アズレン公式生放送DAY1～祝7周年！新情報解禁SP～』
specifically this is the section for event info

[soft raft]

Oh right
Forgot that this is a multi day event

[whole crypt]

2 day event with hours of other stuff

[soft raft]

My timezone's US Central/CST

[whole crypt]

game info is going to be closer to 3am for you then

[remote yarrow]

Isn't it 4am?

Since JST is 14hrs ahead of CST

[civic crag]

What does the lighthouse thing in a hidden do

[soft raft]

Ok that sounds more like it
Lol

[remote yarrow]

It acts like a Request Recon, aka reveals the entire map/zone

[whole crypt]

15 when I just looked, UTC -6 to +9

[civic crag]

So if I’ve activate the hidden logger it’s useless to me?

[whole crypt]

if you use loggers then no need to recon

there's still strongholds though

[eternal basalt]

They have no lighthouse though

[remote yarrow]

But you gotta use Recon to reveal the stronghold zone

[icy steppe]

Is alright fleet for SE dev ship farming?, the missing one is shima but I can’t place her since she’s on commission

[eternal basalt]

You don't need vanguard and main of Sakura

If farming Sakura fleet points then sure.

(got Musashi? UR most points)

[icy steppe]

plan to go get shimanto and like hakuyruu, sadly no mushashi

[rain bobcat]

better split so vg wont be 120 by the time you start shimanto

[eternal basalt]

Like you ever run out of vanguard to lvl

[civic crag]

How tf do I get to this device it’s completely blocked off

[rain bobcat]

typical hidden rng

[eternal basalt]

You don't

[civic crag]

Sooooo how the fuck do I destroy the siren rally point

[remote yarrow]

welcome to opsi, where random stuff spawns on impossible to reach tiles

[remote yarrow]

I think you are just gonna have to leave that zone like that sadly

[civic crag]

Damn

[gusty olive]

I fucked up the image

[remote yarrow]

[gusty olive]

This couldve been your OpSi lol

not my screenshot lol

[plain saffron]

How tf

[whole crypt]

pls gib

[eternal basalt]

There are no platforms in hidden zone, so definitely manuftured

[atomic abyss]

was it not obvious that it was edited in some way

[exotic wren]

That's a lot of exp

[inner delta]

[whole crypt]

can spawn from scanning facility but not in that volume unless some massive bug

[plain saffron]

Don't think it's edited

[eternal basalt]

not anymore

[finite crag]

i have a bridge to sell you

[plain saffron]

Unless they put too much effort into it

[inner delta]

there's like literally no way to do that

[zenith heron]

[quartz jungle]

I got a bug where it spawn 4 instead of 3, because I quit the game after spawning 2

[plain saffron]

I guess they really put in effort because they even got the radar

[quartz jungle]

There may be a bug where you can quit the game after spawning 1

[whole crypt]

I probably should start using scanning facilities again but I'm just lazy

[thorn tartan]

for some reason i can't seem to battle the new meta boss

[plain saffron]

Elaborate

[eternal basalt]

Nagato?

[thorn tartan]

she doesn't appear

[eternal basalt]

Screen?

[plain saffron]

Where

[bleak rose]

[thorn tartan]

she's in the boss list

[plain saffron]

Game filter is weird yes, but here is not the place

[thorn tartan]

but not the main meta battle

[whole crypt]

have you been running OS

[plain saffron]

Assist? It says boss expired?

[crimson glacier]

and you got the 100 coordinates right?

[remote yarrow]

I don't think we can help you with that in any way

[thorn tartan]

yes 140

[plain saffron]

If it's assist then it's normal, low lvl enemy get 1 shot in few seconds

[whole crypt]

#game-feedback

[plain saffron]

You need to spawn camp the screen

[crimson glacier]

so what happens when you press that 140

[whole crypt]

screenshot where you see that 140

[plain saffron]

He says not main so idk if he means summon or assist

[thorn tartan]

it takes me to ark royal when i click on the blue 140

[plain saffron]

You need to kill ark

[whole crypt]

do you have dossier active, you need to finish the dossier fight first

[crimson glacier]

nagami read what he said

[eternal basalt]

You can't do a main and dossier at the same time

[plain saffron]

Both dossier and current can't active at same time

[thorn tartan]

oh must have accidently started it

[plain saffron]

I did?

[crimson glacier]

well none of your responses make any sense if you did

[plain saffron]

[thorn tartan]

i haven't worked on any catch-up meta bosses in a long time

[light trail]

did tashkent's augment make her a lot better and if so in which situations/fleets/pairings

[atomic abyss]

yes it made her a lot better, no she's not the top gun DD

though she comes very close to the DDGs now

[light trail]

she looks like she'd pair really well with nya bc of the slow

[atomic abyss]

if you lack +13 gear, she matches the DDGs even

[eternal basalt]

Should work well with admiral cat

[atomic abyss]

in theory, yes, she is now nakh's best friend

[whole crypt]

in theory I'd say she doesn't do enough unless you really just want to skip Soyuz for a full CV fleet

[atomic abyss]

i've seen people testing with nakh already, but not with tash

[atomic abyss]

yeah this pretty much is what i expect

[light trail]

soyuzless tho so she sounds like a treasure to me

[shell willow]

thats great cause i dont have soyuz 🙏

[whole crypt]

well you need to get Nakhimov to d30 first

[rose cosmos]

Aside from freddy, do other UR pr ships have coin up?

[whole crypt]

if you don't have Nakhimov up then none of this matters

[atomic abyss]

drake and azuma are the only others

[rose cosmos]

Is drake good?

[atomic abyss]

good but not worth prioritising

same with azuma

[rose cosmos]

Why azuma isn’t worth it btw

Who powercrept her

[whole crypt]

every single CB after her

[atomic abyss]

agir and brest for other research ones

anchorage is much easier to get and puts up close numbers

[rose cosmos]

But it’s way harder to complete agir than azuma though

[atomic abyss]

and that's why you have anchorage

[whole crypt]

none of the research ships are hard to complete

[eternal basalt]

Except the collab one

[atomic abyss]

you want to focus on PR4 anyways
for the tenrais and bf109g

[whole crypt]

coin enhances are not for "easier" completion of research ships, they're for catching up

[light trail]

it lines up pretty well if you buy one tenrai from the shop and research the rest. i'm less than 100 bp away from fs5 haku to finish up pr4 and i have 37 tenrai bps

[atomic abyss]

not to mention, anchorage is a CA, so she doesn't get fucked over by hard mode reqs

[rose cosmos]

Btw, do I need a germany team for august?

[whole crypt]

you don't want faction comps for anything

[atomic abyss]

no, her best friends aren't even german, they're japanese

[hard mesa]

does tashkent aug suppose to double the duration of S1? currently its duration still the same

[light trail]

is the aug max lv

[eternal basalt]

To grind xp, yes. Otherwise see above

[atomic abyss]

when her aug is maxed, it doubles s1 duration from 50-100s assuming SL10

[hard mesa]

yeah its maxed

[whole crypt]

because the augment affects s2 not s1

[amber wharf]

Hey Are somebody know the best fleet for 1 shoot helena meta? Will much better if 1 shoot auto

[whole crypt]

it gives s2 additional effect on s1, so s1 text not changing sounds normal

[light trail]

the s1 is what doubles s2 time tho

[amber wharf]

For Lil Enty. No Musahsi,Vanguatd, Impla and YT2

[atomic abyss]

[hard mesa]

in actual battle its still 50s duration

[gusty olive]

This aint growtopia smh

[soft scaffold]

mb sorry

[whole crypt]

let me just make the augment now to confirm what it says

[atomic abyss]

i was testing it yesterday

[amber wharf]

Helena meta better use all BB or Give Some CV?

[whole crypt]

yes s1 still says 50s
then modified s2 will tell you it doubles duration

[light trail]

ah that's where the confusion was

[shell willow]

they are saying its 50s in battle

[whole crypt]

testing

[hard mesa]

Her thing gone after 50s here

[atomic abyss]

if her aug isn't working properly

[whole crypt]

it's right there

[atomic abyss]

i'd be bloody impressed that she still competes with the DDGs

[plain saffron]

The augment is +10 right?

[atomic abyss]

my guess is that the augment isnt maxed ye

[whole crypt]

I want my refund of 21k coins

[hard mesa]

[plain saffron]

That's weird

[whole crypt]

restart game, if not then #bug-reports

[atomic abyss]

tested, it's still there

and meta battles last longer than 50s so

[atomic abyss]

it's a you issue

[plain saffron]

The fairy died

[hard mesa]

[atomic abyss]

that pic is from damage calc testing

[hard mesa]

with emu

[whole crypt]

#bug-reports

[plain saffron]

Russian gun?

[whole crypt]

I wasn't using one but it worked fine

[inland shoal]

Shouldn't matter, it's not even the same skill

The only idea I have is that in some cases the skill activation order is wrong so Tash first does her summon and only then does the upgrade activate

(Too late so it doesn't apply)

[whole crypt]

yeh but it shouldn't be a consistent problem

[inland shoal]

But no idea, just spitballing, I don't understand skill activation order

[whole crypt]

nga time...

[plain saffron]

Why do they use tag

[inland shoal]

Cuz they need to change 2 skills

[plain saffron]

Is it the same for other augment that effect 2 skills

[atomic abyss]

They removed the russian requirement now

[inland shoal]

Think so

[atomic abyss]

I'm using mog gun right now, though I did test with Tash gun yesterday

[plain saffron]

I know, I'm just random guessing in case they fucked something

Now I'm looking at the code

[whole crypt]

I was using 76, so gun shouldn't matter

[hard mesa]

tashkent worked properly after removing goldburn. apparently using goldburn/sound changing gear mess her skill?

[plain saffron]

I'm guessing ship skill with tag but i guess it the aux skill instead

[inland shoal]

That is really weird

[plain saffron]

Which aux else have tag checking

[hard mesa]

nvm its just goldburn

[plain saffron]

Certificate of sponsoship?

Not that's skill on ship

[inland shoal]

I think Ryza auxes, Grand Bomb for example

[vale spindle]

it was there since the datamine

[atomic abyss]

I mean I knew that lol

[foggy chasm]

whats the droprate for choukai? i just cleared the boss 8 times ( 5 full clear and 3 repeat sortie ) and i alrdy got her

fox mines 6 years ago was so painful compared to this

[cobalt rapids]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[foggy chasm]

damn

[boreal kernel]

where is the tier list guide? I recall there being a link here, but i cant find it

[cobalt rapids]

/tierlist

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Ship Tier Lists

Please note that tier lists are subjective and evaluation criteria differ from creator to creator. We encourage users to use multiple guides to get a better picture for ships' performance and said criteria.

🔹Azur Lane's EN Community Tier List by Rice#7016 & Slime#2203
🔹'Samvaluation' event ships' evaluations by samheart564#4031
🔹CN tier list by NGA

use /equip for list of equipment TLs and guides
use /guide for list of helpful gameplay guides and FAQs

[boreal kernel]

o ty ty

[timid moon]

How good is Tashkent now?

[plain saffron]

Hmm works fine with grand bomb

[whole crypt]

modern era gold DD

[timid moon]

What is she compared to Kitakaze?

[whole crypt]

probably better now

but Kitakaze isn't much to compare with

[timid moon]

Good enough for me

[bright tusk]

Is bristol skill can remove w14 enemies concealment??

[whole crypt]

I tried a few pieces of gear so far only goldburn

[vernal edge]

Can ibuki barrage crit?

[plain saffron]

I don't remember bristol but sendai can

[whole crypt]

is there something specifically on goldburn?

[crimson glacier]

its good unlike most auxes 🙂

[whole crypt]

it's breaking tashkent's aug

[crimson glacier]

yeah so i have heard

[timid moon]

how

[crimson glacier]

goldburn has song, and the passive that only procs on vanguard or that one SSSS ship

[whole crypt]

option doesn't last double duration like it should, not sure if anything else not working

[south sequoia]

Is goldburn the one specifically breaking the aug?

What about other bgm change auxes?

[plain saffron]

Which vg aux have augment that upgrade 2 skill

[prime kraken]

can ships fire/throw planes without any gear equipped?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[plain saffron]

If no equip equipped it will automatically equip a default weapon

[whole crypt]

so far only found goldburn

[plain saffron]

And it's shit

[crimson glacier]

what has been tested so far

[whole crypt]

for BGM aux I tried muse mic and shinobi medal so far

not sure what nagami's tried

[plain saffron]

I'm trying to see if goldburn affect other augment that also use tag

[whole crypt]

technically Izumo's?

[edgy steeple]

Hey what event map should i farm for in Divergent chessboard?

[whole crypt]

aug changes armour skill but adds barrage chance on barrage skill

[plain saffron]

But based on what thorin say probably only tash will be affected

[edgy steeple]

or is there any other better war archives that i should prioritize?

[vernal edge]

Polaris but its if you dont need tech ships urgently

[plain saffron]

Hmm izumo can't equip goldburn does she

[crimson glacier]

pretty sure anyone can

[whole crypt]

polaris is only for low level players because it's the easiest archive

[plain saffron]

Ouh

[crimson glacier]

its just the reload skill that doesnt activate for all

[plain saffron]

I got the barrage proc 5/5 so just tash

[inland shoal]

Ofc, anything can crit

[rain bobcat]

is the spearfish actually better than normal converging torps for light bosses

[inland shoal]

Well ig AA can't

[sleek spade]

Queen Eliz META fleet recommends plez... I have most UR BBs except for Zwei

[whole crypt]

do you have any META ships leveled

[sleek spade]

only Helena

[whole crypt]

good enough

[sleek spade]

nice

only lv 115 tho. should I use 10k gold and exp pack to get up to 120?

[timid moon]

Do burn inflict debuffs to enemy other than dot?

[whole crypt]

unless there's a ship with a skill that specifically adds effects to burning enemies no

[inland shoal]

Depends
Some burns do, most burns apply the "debuff" that the enemy is registered as burning, few burns only add the DOT

[sleek spade]

why do I need a META for Eliz tho

[whole crypt]

basically if the burn does anything in addition to the dot you'll see it in the skill desc

you know showdowns do have an outline of the mechanics in entry screen

[sleek spade]

not really no thanks for letting me know

[timid moon]

Yuudachi is supposed to inflict a unique burn, couldn't find anything about it in her description tho.

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Fire_/_Burn_Damage

unique burn doesn't mean it has additional effects, it just (usually) means the burn uses a unique burnID

[rain bobcat]

anyone have the plane template for light and heavy bossing

[sleek spade]

so I'll do Als, Soyuz, Vanny for back and Unzen, Ply, Hel meta for front is good?

[whole crypt]

will probably work, just give it a shot, not like you must oneshot

[sleek spade]

mm alright thank you

[crimson glacier]

didnt helena meta have like really high stat requirements

to deal with the thingies fast enough

[whole crypt]

you mean for QEM, Helena META is just one of the ships that can make it, might not kill the knights fast enough to keep a oneshot but it's better than nothing

[sleek spade]

mmm I got her down to 44. that's good enough

[bright tusk]

What good ships for yorktown ii & kearsarge rocket fleet?

[inner delta]

implac

[atomic abyss]

aurora and sirius too

[half plover]

does anyone have a team or two for qe meta? I deal like 20% dmg with my current one

[wispy geyser]

This challenge helena after year is still impossible to do

[whole crypt]

kill it with bulin

[whole crypt]

do you have a META ship to kill the knights, besides that it's pretty much a normal heavy boss

[forest nimbus]

Can anyone help me understand what secondary guns to use on BBs against all the specific armor types?

If i look at the community tier list it almost always lists them in a specific order with the Nep gun recommended on all ships that can use it.
But if i go to this list: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Light_Cruiser_Guns#Max_Enhanced-0
And sort by Surface DPS, it is quite low in the list against all three armor types.

Does it just give more stats and make it better that way?

I'm mainy thinking what equipment to swap to if the arbiter fight in OPSI happens to be a light armor and i want to attack it with my anti heavy AP BB fleet.
But i kind of want to understand how to think as well.

Would the other Triple 155 or Triple 152 guns be better in those scenarios or is it better to invest in enough Nep guns and just stick them on every BB that can equip it?

(The Quad 152 i'm ignoring as i realise that is better used as a main gun on Vanguards)

[half plover]

I got wichita meta mlb

bearn meta too

[whole crypt]

secondary guns for BB is pretty much just stat sticks when considering boss armour, q152 or anything 45FP

in vast majority of those bossing situations your secondary guns won't engage past killing suicide boats, if any

[half plover]

I think I could also mlb some cruise meta ships from kimberly meta on

[whole crypt]

Wichita should be fine, I think stigma threw something together yesterday

[woeful sluice]

What should I do when I'm locked out of the next chapter of the campaign? Currently lvl 54 and need lvl 60 to start 8-1?

[whole crypt]

#gameplay-help message

[whole crypt]

are you done with event, if you are maybe go hit up a war archive

[half plover]

for musashi can I use FdG and for ply sandy? not sure who the one in vanguard middle is so I would need to replace her too

[whole crypt]

eh mid should be Kirov META

[woeful sluice]

yeah got all of the rewards

[whole crypt]

but as long as you can kill the knights without too much delay you should be able to do 2-3shots without much trouble

[forest nimbus]

I see, thank you for the information!

[woeful sluice]

which war archive would you recommend?

[whole crypt]

chessboard for KMS tech, if you can handle it
if you can't then the lower end is usually polaris

[half plover]

I looked at the tier list and don't have any meta ship that high on it like kirov meta, would kasumi meta work too maybe?

I would raise ships for that fight so it won't be much of a struggle

[whole crypt]

Wichita alone is probably fine, stig was doing oneshots and you probably shouldn't be aiming for oneshotting now

[bright tusk]

Any replacements?

[half plover]

ah good

[inner delta]

uh parseval ig?

[half plover]

ty

[woeful sluice]

gotcha, I'm gonna give it a try!

[half plover]

it is AP guns, right?

[whole crypt]

yeh

as long as you can actually kill the knights properly it should at worst be a 3-shot

[half plover]

btw is there a reason why sushis alsace runs autoloader +11

[whole crypt]

usually for timing with stops

if you don't have the needed tech or oath or whatnot it may not even apply

[half plover]

yeah I think I cant copy that

[whole crypt]

but yeh any decently setup anti-heavy with something to deal with the knights

[half plover]

I'll try it tho, tysm

time to level up wichita meta

[vernal osprey]

How to rise up rank from 2000 to around 1500 or 1000 to get to the next title?

Is just doing a lot of exercises the only way to gain rank points?

[crimson glacier]

you just have to win

[vernal osprey]

How many times...

[crimson glacier]

until you are at rank you want to be

[crisp wadi]

Do excer when reset asap too, so you'll not deranked

[vernal osprey]

dam so prolly near hundreds of times...

[half plover]

u win more rank points when u attack the most left player

[undone plover]

Check the pinned guide in #pvp
Dont overcap your attempts. There are 15 attempts per day. U want to do them all.
Also try and always fight the leftmost opponent (since they usually have higher rank than you)
If u fight someone with a lower rank (score) u get less points

[whole crypt]

it's reset every 2 weeks but you basically need to do all 15 attempts everyday, and not lose attempts to the cap

[vernal osprey]

aight thx

[half plover]

it is 15 attempts?

not 10?

[whole crypt]

there's leeway to lose or fight weaker opponents if you're not aiming for admiral or something

storage cap is 10, but you get 15 a day from day change, 12pm and 6pm

[crimson glacier]

just like how shop resets 3 times, pvp is the same

[undone plover]

U can store 10 but there is 15

[half plover]

oh

that explains a lot

[undone plover]

So go to zero before u sleep

[whole crypt]

a lot of newer players who aren't getting their ranks up are missing one set of 5 everyday

[frank pulsar]

fighters
hvar/bf109g for light
la-9/bf109g for med
la-9/2000lbs for heavy

dive bombers
skyraider/tenrai/helldiver for light and med
tenrai/helldiver for heavy

torpedo bombers
pr7 vit/ryusei/junker/saiun kai for all armours

fighter > torpedo bomber on light and med, torpedo bomber > fighter for heavy

[inland shoal]

<- Newer player who isn't getting his rank up

[rain bobcat]

I meant the renhex general timing template

I remember there being a renhex link for it

[cobalt rapids]

http://renhex.github.io/alft/46

[frank pulsar]

no such thing as general timing, you need to give context on what ship yr using

[cobalt rapids]

doesnt have kear comps tho

[rain bobcat]

ahh yeah this

ty

[forest nimbus]

This was information i also wanted, so this means for example it's better to run a Flapjack over BF109G on the first slot of Shinano against light bosses?

[frank pulsar]

no its the other way round

rocket fighters like hvar and bf109g are better than bomb fighters on light

[forest nimbus]

hm, the last thing says fighter > torp/bomb on light med

[frank pulsar]

torpedo bomber is not the same as torp/bomb, reread what i said

[forest nimbus]

aaaah, i'm stupid

Ah, i realise now where my thinking went wrong, i was thinking the BF-109G as a dive bomber, but i just remembered it actually counts as a fighter.

[rain bobcat]

"counts" well it IS a fighter

its just a rocket version of the bf109 interceptor after all

[forest nimbus]

But the BF-109G would be better than a Ryusei in that same scenario?

[frank pulsar]

yes

torp bomber mods are skewed towards heavy

[forest nimbus]

I see, thank you for the information!

And Dive Bombers you only choose if you can't choose anything else in that slot?

[frank pulsar]

usually yes for bossing

[thorny bay]

any gear i should stock up on from buying monthly protocore blueprints?

[rain bobcat]

worth is sujective

if ur talking from a I only use rings for those that give me the best value then no

[wind hazel]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Priority.jpeg

[half plover]

I didnt read well enough that it is about a ring

[frank pulsar]

if youre f2p, oath whoever you like
if youre whale, then meta wise shes not worth the ring

[thorny bay]

nvm ty

[timid moon]

Is there a guide on Gear Lab?

[rain bobcat]

yes

[timid moon]

where

[rain bobcat]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[rain bobcat]

just download and zoom

[late flame]

just buy out everything

[forest palm]

there's no real whaling in AL outside of outfits imo

[rain bobcat]

whaling cubes for research rush

aside from that nothing really no one cares if you spend money on skins

[forest palm]

buying cubes, or coin is value, nothing you can buy will strictly give you any sort of advantage in terms of progression

so really you'd just be buying outfits, rings, dorm slots, dock space...

[late flame]

its normal

[atomic abyss]

it's meant to extend

[late flame]

scam

[half plover]

no matter the game it is either completely scam or will cause your account to be banned

[atomic abyss]

sounds like a great way to get banned

[forest palm]

[half plover]

what makes this aa good?

[atomic abyss]

it has FP stat

[half plover]

I thought the other aa that looks a bit like staag is better

oh I see

[atomic abyss]

hazemeyer/staags give hit
which is more relevant for backliners, and maybe torpers

[half plover]

and sextuple bofors?

[atomic abyss]

that is a an AA gun for AA purposes, not for stat padding

[half plover]

ah alr ty

[atomic abyss]

second best AA gun in the game

[viral flicker]

Someone send links to this 3

[atomic abyss]

what do you mean by send links

do you mean how to gear them?

[plain saffron]

It is a sign for you to report that player

[south sequoia]

The ectl site has its own search function for the ships and recommended gears

I got no idea what else you meant by "sending links" unless you mean their wikipedia page... in which case search them yourself.

[whole crypt]

or we could paste the gear hash and he'll probably not have most of them

[forest palm]

nothing like playing back, and fourth

[viral flicker]

Yea the git hub link

[atomic abyss]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[viral flicker]

Also how to make her good

[wind hazel]

max limit break her

[atomic abyss]

give her mag torps if you're using her on auto, and give her a gold rudder

[cursive lark]

Is there a hybrid mf that can be used in campaign like w15?

[viral flicker]

Don't have bulins

[atomic abyss]

then she won';t be good

[atomic abyss]

MF?

[cursive lark]

Meowficcers

Meoficcers*

[wind hazel]

interesting name

[cursive lark]

I only have CV cats and BB cats so far though, so is the way to make these hybrid cats is to spread the talent distribution? (CA 1 eva, DD HP, vang AA, etc.) If there is, what talent is useful, is there a priority? (Maybe 1 eva worth more than 8 AA)

[frank pulsar]

hybrid cat not worth
and you only want offensive stats

[cursive lark]

Alright offensive stats, good point

Do I need vanguard offensive stats then?

Or just CV since I have two of them

Ace pilot or nah? It's a 4 base cat with soulful, it would be 33211 instead of 3331 in the end

It's an antenna mf

[wind hazel]

you want fp

[dull zealot]

Im dumb but can you get multiple hedgehog i wonder? Or it's just one only

[atomic abyss]

just the one

[dull zealot]

aight

[atomic abyss]

so if you scrap it you're 💀

[dull zealot]

i was starting to question if there's other hedgehog

[atomic abyss]

well

hamm2 and eld kai have built in hedgehogs

[dull zealot]

yeah they got it

[worldly snow]

So
How I build NewJ?

[atomic abyss]

firstly, do you have her max limit broken/are you able to max limit break her

[worldly snow]

😓
I Have, but i just can limit break her 1 time

[atomic abyss]

then i wouldnt invest in her for the time being and save the bulins

[south sequoia]

Eldkai built in asw is that good?

[atomic abyss]

it's a +10 hedgehog

[worldly snow]

Oki
Thanks

[dull zealot]

how about Mogador's?

i guess she's not very suitable in W14

but her skill performs radar scan

[whole crypt]

which is the same as Hammann II off the top of my head

[atomic abyss]

das what i was trying to say here

[whole crypt]

you'll need to give her an actual hedgehog/depth charge but she does fine for durability and damage otherwise

she doesn't have a special ASW but she's strong enough for surface

[dull zealot]

guess so... I was trying to do W14 auto

[whole crypt]

the skill sonar scan may or may not help because hedgehog actually can often shoot further than the detection circle

[plain saffron]

her sonar kinda big though

[whole crypt]

the skill scan is full screen isn't it

[atomic abyss]

curious
did people ever use odin for w14
since she has a sonar

[plain saffron]

eld have scan skill?

[whole crypt]

maybe but it wouldn't have been for the scan

[atomic abyss]

eld has no scan skill

yeah odin had strong interception anyways

anyways im back from testing ibuki aug

[dull zealot]

how was it

[atomic abyss]

she's reaching shima at least

[dull zealot]

glad that buffed her too well

[atomic abyss]

way more consistent than shima for sure

but she's not reaching shima's max that's for sure

[dull zealot]

i was starting to question if it was bad

[rugged summit]

Is there any hms heavy cruiser that is good for a mob fleet?

[atomic abyss]

drake and that's all

cheshire for w13/15

chesh is more for tanking/anti air though

[whole crypt]

is there some reason you want a CA specifically

[rugged summit]

Any other ones that is not a pr ship

[atomic abyss]

HMS CAs suck
a LOT

[rugged summit]

Cause my mob fleet is quite weak atm

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter, you don't need a CA

[atomic abyss]

next best are london retro and shropshire retro

[rugged summit]

I see so what else should i use

[whole crypt]

what are you doing and what do you have

[rugged summit]

I have like london retro and shropshire retro but its still weak so im wondering why they keep dying and i arrived at the conclusion that their shield is light but i havent played much to know

[atomic abyss]

the short is, HMS heavy cruisers suck

[whole crypt]

it's not their armour type they just have shit durability

[rugged summit]

I sse

[atomic abyss]

good-ish damage, but they're all very frail

[rugged summit]

So any other ships that can tank some dmg for my mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

if you're new, portland is the best option

[rugged summit]

True i should just lowkey use her

[timid moon]

If u try hard the whole year how many UR bulins can you get?

[finite crag]

1.5 a month from specialized cores

add in cruise and ur milestone i think its 28?

[timid moon]

aight

[eternal basalt]

18+6+4+4 (prob)

[gusty olive]

Is there any HMS tank better than Cheshire?

[rain bobcat]

around 28 guaranteed yeah

[whole crypt]

trying hard doesn't really get you more UR bulins

[hollow gust]

1.5 from specialize
1 from every UR event

[eternal basalt]

Oh shiy, and +3 from medals

[timid moon]

not the point

[keen sable]

unzen

[rain bobcat]

its the way you asked lol

[plain saffron]

anyone with torps

[timid moon]

true

[atomic abyss]

weirdly, by mebot's revised eHP chart... the highest is... jervis

sorry, fs5 drake, then jervis

[gusty olive]

too bad I dont have her kekw (jervis)

[whole crypt]

sounds about right

[atomic abyss]

cheshire is now portland tier

[eternal basalt]

Sounds off, Drake good at something?

[gusty olive]

just checking if

Cheshire, Dido, Drake

as vanguards can be improved despite the HMS limitation

[atomic abyss]

d30 drake is actually tankier than ply
wtf

[whole crypt]

it's just the rest of HMS being bad

[keen sable]

drake good. shocking

[whole crypt]

yeh sounds about right

[atomic abyss]

chesh is portland tier btw
i've been lied to

[keen sable]

sirius best hms tank

[atomic abyss]

guam ehp dropped like a rock

[whole crypt]

Cheshre was always Portland level

[late flame]

best tank is no tank coz just kill faster

[timid moon]

mutsuki tank

[whole crypt]

best tank manual don't get hit

[atomic abyss]

note that voro is very overrated in the chart

[keen sable]

ikr. the best tanks have no tank symbol

[whole crypt]

Voroshilov is durable

[gusty olive]

I guess i can use Drake as tank instead and use something instead of Cheshire

[viral flicker]

Should I craft any

[keen sable]

depends on what you have which seems to be very little. why are you focused 6 exactly?

[plain saffron]

i totally didn't try to drag and copy the text

[vocal sonnet]

Do the ijn ship boosts stack for event point gain?

[plain saffron]

some ship, the one listed

huh apparently they removed a setting they accidentally put in, to change graphic

2k

[finite crag]

damn

[inner delta]

[plain saffron]

looks like for dorm3d only though

[inner delta]

[plain saffron]

it was visible for CN player for a while

[finite crag]

what was

[plain saffron]

the setting

[finite crag]

ah

[plain saffron]

will they add one for water

[finite crag]

when did we first catch news of 3d dorm again?

[uncut flower]

They first teased that feature since May, iirc.

Though I may, or may not be wrong about that.

[plain saffron]

march this year

in dev notes together with META dock

1st vid is may for CN anni yes

[uncut flower]

The amount for my Dock Capacity right now:

These numbers aside, will they ever be enough for future events within this year?

[inner delta]

prolly

that's still like 60 space

[whole crypt]

there's probably enough space to last till next time we get free gems

[woeful sluice]

How do I increase my TRP stat to get access to C2? I know you get TRP by swapping in DD's but is there any other way?

[wind hazel]

better trp stat gear

/reqhelp

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Hard_Mode_Req_Help.jpeg

[woeful sluice]

cheers

[wind hazel]

having a 2nd fleet will boost the most, but have to get them to leveled up as well

since lv1 will just drag down the average by a lot

[atomic abyss]

anyways im more or less convinced

ibuki aug is a good upgrade, but not enough to make her relevant

[late flame]

dodged a bullet by not having her researched

[rain bobcat]

she seems alright for short battles

[atomic abyss]

shimakaze is still better, although way less consistent

[sharp socket]

should i mlb kazagumo, sirius or eldridge first

[atomic abyss]

kaza

[whole crypt]

same can be said for Izumo

[atomic abyss]

tash i am more excited

[whole crypt]

Tashkent is mostly a case of potentially being usable with Nakhimov but honestly not much beyond that

[atomic abyss]

her DPS is higher than i anticipated

for a new player without +13 DD guns / missiles
tash competes with DDGs

[rain bobcat]

tash is quite near anshan and changchung

yeah

[atomic abyss]

she's definitely better than CC imo

she'll lose out to TY/AS tho in terms of damage

[late flame]

then again cc is mainly a buffer no?

[atomic abyss]

by the current metric, definitely t0 worthy

[wind hazel]

DD medal finally some good use

wait is she even from dd medal

[whole crypt]

remind me does snezhinka just copy main gun wholesale

[atomic abyss]

she is from the anniversary ticket though

[wind hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896815593972441088.webp?size=56&quality=lossless

[atomic abyss]

i'd go as far as to say tash is outright better short term investment than the DDGs, if new-ish players are looking for a DD to invest in

[late flame]

cries in gold bulins

[atomic abyss]

unless you already have their retro item from CNY of course

[wind hazel]

better sacrifice gold bulin than specialized core

[whole crypt]

this could be a problem

[wind hazel]

completely situational i guess, accessibility is always an issue for new players

[atomic abyss]

[late flame]

i kinda forgor i have her - and no i didnt use a bulin on her and/or muse

[frank pulsar]

guam is still the tankiest ship in the game for w15

[whole crypt]

anyway I'd recommend Tashkent over DDG if a new player has her now

[frank pulsar]

tashkent aug that good?

[whole crypt]

gun damage should definitely be at least as good if not better than DDGs, DDGs just win by missiles and maybe barrage

[rain bobcat]

hovering between ddgs

[frank pulsar]

ooo

[atomic abyss]

DDGs win with better gear investment

[whole crypt]

it saves you 800 cores and 1k proto

[atomic abyss]

since they rely on their gears to shine

[whole crypt]

at least

[late flame]

ah yes the seal of 4 gods

[whole crypt]

not S4G, you need missile to start with

[atomic abyss]

tash is strong because of her aug/skill, so a new players can get mileage out of them easily

[frank pulsar]

i still havent +13 my new rocket yet
i dont even have a chance to use ddg at all for like the past 6 months actually

[whole crypt]

if S4G as well it's 1.6k cores

[late flame]

too bad no TY ver missile for sale

[whole crypt]

and I'm fairly sure Tashkent is also more durable

[frank pulsar]

you snooze you lose

[atomic abyss]

needless to say

the performance is only similar outside CM

[whole crypt]

100s covers basically everything you'll do outside of CM

[atomic abyss]

this is with +10 mog gun and +10 missile with seal

you do *not *want to see the comparison where neither was using the mog gun

[finite crag]

what if i do

[atomic abyss]

ignore drake please

i intended to use drake as a ruler and uh, she wasn't very useful

[finite crag]

oh my

thats kinda sad

[atomic abyss]

in fact, i decided it couldn't get any worse

[whole crypt]

what fight was this

[atomic abyss]

helmet

I decided to compare with a T3 HMS CA

and it got worse for drake

[late flame]

poor drek

[finite crag]

dreg

[atomic abyss]

i imagine shropshire will put out similar numbers

[finite crag]

only one way to find out

[atomic abyss]

i dont have her raised

so

[blissful hamlet]

is tashkent with aug op now?

[atomic abyss]

OP is a strong word

i would describe her as very very good, at least

[blissful hamlet]

how very very good? like DDG?

[hollow gust]

Those numbers don't look right

[atomic abyss]

with +13 BiS gear, DDGs should be notably better

[blissful hamlet]

[hollow gust]

What content is this ?

[atomic abyss]

but then again, little else is better than DDGs on light

Helmet lmao

i dont think the gap should be that far though, i think it should be way closer

but i think mog gun help london and shrop a lot

i didn't really bother to test london and drake rigorously - this was for tash after all

drake should be better on med anyways

[uneven badger]

what is this things name

[atomic abyss]

the Prototype BF109G

[uneven badger]

alright

[gusty olive]

What's ender cooking?

[whole crypt]

testing tashkent

which I honestly think can be done on paper

[atomic abyss]

i've spoken with suchi and all

[gusty olive]

ok how the fuck is London have more dmg than Drake

[atomic abyss]

on magic paper, the gap between DDG and Tash should be MUCH bigger

but she does beat harbin on light, which isn't too surprising

[whole crypt]

because the conditions weren't the same

[atomic abyss]

if you ask me the real question is this

[atomic abyss]

i did do a quick test with solo drake - 72k on average

[south sequoia]

I think that would be kinda... awkward

like sure you enable nakhimovs slow but who will you replace between sirius and kazagumo or the tank or even helena just to enable nakhi slow

[atomic abyss]

i mean cleo i would view it this way

[hollow gust]

It looks more like not equipping your ships well

[south sequoia]

Oh woops

[atomic abyss]

Drake gun was used for both
London was carrying mog as well

[gusty olive]

Does a comp of Kearsarge, Yorktwo/Enterprise, Nyakhimov work?

Cus that might free Kazugumo

[atomic abyss]

it would yes
replace kaza with tash

and move kaza to hakunano comp

[hollow gust]

Those numbers are really really sad

[south sequoia]

In that comp yeah, because in the uss comp the third vanguard slot is pretty much flex

can be helena, can be another sub dps, can be whoever

[atomic abyss]

they're 120 goose, not 125

that's why the damage is sad

i've said it for years that london/shrop are underrated AF

[gusty olive]

In a not so similar set up, I'm using Eldridge as slow instead of Ark lol since I use Kearsarge, Shinano, and Enterprise

[gusty olive]

Faction Fleet material

[whole crypt]

damn 20s shield is annoying

[south sequoia]

is eldridge shocks consistent enough to get by over using ark?

[atomic abyss]

5s slow

[gusty olive]

Problem comes from timing it to Kearsarge

Since she's the flagship

[gusty olive]

Her main gun fire are the ones that buff planes right?

[atomic abyss]

excluding DDGs here since they have mgm+1 x100% DD main guns

london and shrop have 160%/165% eff DD guns on top of the CA main gun

while they do not have the reload of DDs, they have way more FP

the issue is that they are extremely frail really

[whole crypt]

lol screw this BB fleet nailed hermit instead of CV

[hollow gust]

Nothing underrated about them when you can pull of similar stuff with other ships

[atomic abyss]

more so than the ships listed above them at least...

[hollow gust]

although u can drag down minnie, she is so powercreeped and outdated its not even funny

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure you haven't said it for years for Shropshire

[atomic abyss]

i mean ectl has placed london there for years anyways

[whole crypt]

and it's not like their DPS is the only thing they're measured on

[hollow gust]

yeah cause she explodes from a single touch

[whole crypt]

no utility and meh durability

[hollow gust]

only reason it even looks close is cause you are comparing non max ships, wont be surprised if drake pulls of double the damage of your screeenshot if she is equipped fully

[atomic abyss]

i highly doubt an unzen gun will make triple
oh sorry, you edited to double lol

[whole crypt]

Drake doesn't get better damage using Unzen gun so I have no idea what you're after

[atomic abyss]

this was against light armour

[whole crypt]

still doesn't

[hollow gust]

drake turns anything into special ammo

[timid rain]

Please help!

[whole crypt]

Drake turns anything not AP into special normal

[timid rain]

Does this mean this gun's skill will be negated if I have Pittsburgh in my fleet?

[whole crypt]

no

[hollow gust]

nah, u will have 2 special guns

[atomic abyss]

the disclaimer applies if they are on the same ship

[timid rain]

Oh, so 1 special AA gun for each ship?

[whole crypt]

don't think of them together

[hollow gust]

well ghost guns dont replace each other, they both work even if its a single ship

[whole crypt]

shimanto gun just gives a special AA gun to the vanguard ship it's used on, and doesn't grant an additional special AA for that vanguard ship if you can use more than 1 CL gun on that ship

[rose cosmos]

Is it ok to throw medals to retrofit mats, those fuckers just don't drop

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure the answer is it's still dogshit but shimanto gun wouldn't really help Kronshtadt's AA would it

[hollow gust]

also tash aug seems pretty good actually

[whole crypt]

if you're desperate, T3 prints are just bloody expensive

[atomic abyss]

one of the worst possible ways to spend medals honestly...

[whole crypt]

you're kind of late to that party

[atomic abyss]

tash aug definitely buffs her significantly

not quite the damage of maxed out DDGs of course