gameplay-help

[crimson glacier]

why are you still here saying random shit

[jaunty vault]

there's better permanent ships, but she's still alright

[forest palm]

I - 13 you literally have to play manual to utilize her properly

[shut kernel]

who?(I already have perseus and unicorn I just need a third ship for clearing)

[crimson glacier]

perseus isnt even good with unicorn

[forest palm]

as it stands the top sub fleets are really not that far apart to justify switching

[shut kernel]

my vanguards are low level just to make sure they wont sink and additional wyvern aint so bad

[balmy wharf]

Restart the game?

[jaunty vault]

hood, Nelson, most of the research ships, etc

[shut kernel]

I dont need another preload?

[vernal edge]

Yes she is ok with no faction buff

[shut kernel]

I'm a hood hater ngl

[jaunty vault]

no you don't lol

[crimson glacier]

yeah but id assume even the new zuihou would beat perseus if you already have uni

[jaunty vault]

perseus + unicorn is too much preload and inefficient as is

[gentle sequoia]

Its been there for 2 months now, so....

I've done multiple restarts

[forest palm]

Zuihou is iffy

[crimson glacier]

she looks like a good secondary healer

[sleek spade]

strong heal tho

[atomic abyss]

but worse damage than aquila and volga

[whole crypt]

works fine as an Aquila placeholder until you get Aquila

[sleek spade]

but I dont have both

[whole crypt]

that or swap out Aquila and keep her in preload mode

[tawdry sluice]

Does the TP stage drop any event currency after the first clear?

[atomic abyss]

no

[tawdry sluice]

Alright thanks

[fickle scarab]

Farm event or farm 12-4?

[undone plover]

Event till 12k
Then back to ch12

Use the recommended ships for 33% more tokens
Only need 1 and has to fight the boss

[fickle scarab]

New mechanic?

[undone plover]

I suppose
Not sure if older events have done this

[jaunty vault]

its not new

whats new is the story mode

which was used for a previous event

[steady beacon]

Older SPs stopped at 10k
I think Marseillaise was the first time we got some post-10k rewards

*Older 1-ship SPs

[fickle scarab]

Zuihou just a pure healer like percy but with no preload ?

[orchid tulip]

hello, I made the 500 gems purchase for the 3rd skill slot in the academy by missclick. Is there anyway to get me those gems refunded??

[thick venture]

Lmao

[shell willow]

support will tell you they cant, i already tried refunding

[orchid tulip]

there is this page in support, is it worth trying?

[noble tulip]

You can always try

[shell willow]

well ill be mad if they refund you and not me

[atomic abyss]

nope

[orchid tulip]

where is "Purchase Refunds"?

[atomic abyss]

purchase refunds are for purchases with real money

not purchases with gems in-game

[undone plover]

Percy is more of a primary healer
Zuihou is closer to a secondary healer like volga or aquila but she is not as good
She is closer to ryouhou from what I have read here but slightly better

[orchid tulip]

for that, there's a section telling you to ask google store about it, but this one page is different

[atomic abyss]

anyways

they don't entertain such requests to refund gems accidentally spent on slots or skins etc

[orchid tulip]

I'll try you doomers. Anyways I had always thought of buying that 3rd slot someday

[atomic abyss]

Im just telling you what CS has told me when i've asked them

you'd be lucky if you even get a response

[eternal basalt]

Sad but true

[stone cradle]

Hello it's my 1st opsi reset would like to confirm that this part of the shop doesn't reset every 3 days right?

[forest jasper]

no

[wind hazel]

shop doesn't reset every 3 days anymore

[stone cradle]

Oh really

[wind hazel]

it's just monthly reset now

[eternal basalt]

ANY part of the shop

[wind hazel]

unless you're still stuck with story

[stone cradle]

Sadge I needed 1 more ur print

[eternal basalt]

Then you don't gst that shop

[wind hazel]

tru

[stone cradle]

Honestly thought the upper part which is titled port store would get reset. Anyway thanks for the info

[undone plover]

U still get the same amount as before the reset
U can just buy it all at once now

[eternal basalt]

It reset the 1st

[undone plover]

Oh I see

[worldly pewter]

the reason why i always push people to clear ch4 before the monthly reset

[forest palm]

[plain saffron]

Can enemy spawn directly on you?

[atomic abyss]

if you park yourself at the ONLY boss spawn

yes

[plain saffron]

How about other than boss

[atomic abyss]

no

[plain saffron]

[inland shoal]

Probably too if you managed to find a non boss that can only spawn in one location and blocked that

[atomic abyss]

which isn't possible... as far as im aware

[inland shoal]

Yeah I also don't think there's any map allowing for that

[plain saffron]

afaik all that's guaranteed like that are at enter stage

[forest palm]

I guess an easier way to test if mobs could spawn on you would be to get to a low volume, high density map like world 9s

[inland shoal]

But with all enemies moving, surely on last event you could've blocked all elite spawn points for the 3rd elite

[keen sable]

I might have a 15-4 video of spawn block fail. Give me a day.

[fresh gale]

do the weekly guild kill 300 missions only reset in antoher 45 minutes?

[inland shoal]

Huh?

[plain saffron]

it should already resetted. your guild leader/officer need to start new one

[fresh gale]

oh, so it's initiated by a guild officer? No wonder last week it was earlier than usual

[plain saffron]

your guild can start once per week, and officer/leader start it

[candid bronze]

which stages drops gold steam catapult?

[plain saffron]

when weekly reset prev mission is just gone

[atomic abyss]

none of the campaign stages do - it's not worth farming gear from campaign anyways

your main sources of gold catapults are tech boxes and research

[candid bronze]

what about the ones in war archives

[atomic abyss]

fallen wings and ink stained seel sakura as map drops
even less worth to farm there

[candid bronze]

mmm I see, thanks

isn't there a guide on which gears to disassemble to free up space? is it still around?

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /equip

[candid bronze]

thanks

[hushed cliff]

I made it through W15 without ever touching a sub so my logic was any sub will help me no matter how shit it is

so might as well pick my favorite ones

[mental prairie]

eldridge worth to retrofit?

[cobalt rapids]

if u can afford her and theres no better prios for ur gold bulins yes

[pseudo hearth]

In that regard, I’d also like to ask, is Eldridge notable compared to our other URs?

[cobalt rapids]

UR jda

[keen sable]

Some home. Some don't. Some aim. Some don't. Some do more damage. Some dont. Some have a barrage. Some dont.

[dawn quarry]

Sannnn die go worth to retrofit?

[forest palm]

yes Sandy is worth retrofitting, and so is her augment

[dawn quarry]

time to farm her then

[vale kite]

sooo. I played for like 3 weeks now and i used random gear for everyone.. now im starting to think about getting them proper equipment.. wondering which to prioritize?

[dawn quarry]

Ayyy same, i just reached lvl 64 and have the same question

[undone plover]

read sam's equip guide https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#bb_guns

[vale kite]

soo. did you notice a slow down in ur leveling up at some point? if yes, when?

[dawn quarry]

mh... Eh probably at around 50 since i rushed campaign all star. Till when I can't go further anymore and needed to wait for main lvl to lvl up. Pain

[vale kite]

aah. I'm at 46 rn and I don't know if i'm doing something wrong lol

[undone plover]

it does slow down
just run full fleets and get to an oil cap map as soon as u can

[dawn quarry]

just farm campaign, until u need to reach higher main lvl to go further chapters. That's what i did XD

[keen sable]

If you're not spending all your oil not much else can be done

[brazen hornet]

When I started... level 70 commander on map 2-4. I won't proceed until I get all the ships on the map. So far Z23 has been the worst to pull on the maps.

[vale kite]

idk why when i try to do that.. it just overcaps over and over again (rewards and stuff)

[keen sable]

I don't mean like mail oil either. Just natural oil

[dawn quarry]

.....

[brazen hornet]

I might be a completionist.... 😅

[vale kite]

am i dumb to stop farming after my ships mood gets to zero?

[jaunty vault]

no?

[tame jungle]

wait no i misread it's what you're supposed to do

[plain saffron]

don't abuse ships

[dawn quarry]

no ur not. I care for them, so i stopped

[vale kite]

ok so thats why i cant deplete my oil

[whole crypt]

it's the game telling you to touch grass. or put the ships in dorm.

swap out to other ships if you have oil to burn

[undone plover]

it is also more efficient to let them revover morale
at 0 morale xp gain is 50%

[vale kite]

i see

[whole crypt]

and lose affinity

[vale kite]

ok so.. when should I make another fleet? at what point?

[keen sable]

Micro/maximize dorm will let you play a little more

[dawn quarry]

Wait one question im curious do u lose affinity if u already oath the ship

ahhhhhhhhhh i see

[vale kite]

ok so what is the point of oath in this game? 😄

[keen sable]

Stats

[vale kite]

I've been holding on to the rings until i fully understand what it is

[dawn quarry]

Skin, stat, dialogue? Cool?

[vale kite]

should i just use them on any ship i like?

[dawn quarry]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm i have 4 and im not using until i figure out which one im gonna do

[undone plover]

that is fine
if u are f2p just oath who u like
some ships have oath skins if u care about that
we should get a few more oath skins with upcoming event

[keen sable]

Outside gph, sometimes skin or voice

[dawn quarry]

Gonna be a long time till i complete that new comer quest 😂

[vale kite]

I mean.. NJ's skin looks kinda nice

on that note, does the UR exhange thing ever rotate or something?

[dawn quarry]

u have nj? :0

[vale kite]

I was aiming to get NJ but i got her

[atomic abyss]

no, it's just all the URs that are permanent

[vale kite]

yeah i got her this morning.. i was in SHOCK

[dawn quarry]

💀.. my luck 😭 i just saved cube till now. Bc Mh.. why not. So i only pulled when daily

[atomic abyss]

well use your oath ring for whoever you want

[dawn quarry]

How many oath skin is there currently?

[tame jungle]

a bunch

[vale kite]

I mean i heard about the one cube a day... but i am addicted to pulling in gacha games cant stop 😄

[whole crypt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Skins/Wedding

[atomic abyss]

51

[dawn quarry]

51 oath ring

mhm...............

[whole crypt]

you may regret it in about 10 days

[plain saffron]

i will just say be careful

[vale kite]

because of the UR event?

[dawn quarry]

i have 200 cubos currently i hope i can also step a foot in that event since i just started

[whole crypt]

200 now is probably fine

[tame jungle]

with 200 cubes you should be safe for the event

as long as you don't yolo and pull a bunch in that timeframe, you should have enough cubes by the end at least

[wind hazel]

unless?

[dawn quarry]

Unless my birthday luck is that bad

[wind hazel]

don't forget to save up coin too, not just cube

[whole crypt]

there's very little luck involved if you have 200 cubes now, coins though yeh

[keen sable]

You can always long com it

Especially for 3 week prediction

[dawn quarry]

Yea but my cap is at 40k ; -;

[whole crypt]

you can store over softcap

[dawn quarry]

how?

[whole crypt]

any source besides merchant

[coarse heron]

Cap is for merchant only

[undone plover]

unique do u have any data on the long comm strat?

[dawn quarry]

Oh so the daily coin from daily raid can be stored over cap?

[keen sable]

Which if you can't cost limit and refuse to long com is a major source of income.

[whole crypt]

coins from just your normal fights also, but you won't get a lot before ch9

if you can't run ch9 or higher then yeh long comm

[keen sable]

If you're so poor you shouldn't be wasting merchant?

[dawn quarry]

;-; gud thing im at chapter 9 after getting my 64 too 65

[keen sable]

What data even is there. Long com is 4500 coins or so. 9000 a day. Plus merchant and raid is plenty to support 10 a day

[undone plover]

i thought u guys were talking about coobs nvm

[keen sable]

Oh I think it's pretty clear that cube is 1/6 of long com

[brazen hornet]

That is so weird to read for me when I am on Ch.2 maps with level 101 ships. 😅Oops, reply went to wrong reply... sorry UniqueName... Meant ch.9 at level 64....

[dawn quarry]

Can't u push campaign then go back and farm at chapter 2

[undone plover]

i see thanks

[exotic wren]

Wait 200 cubes from now is already safe for UR?

[brazen hornet]

That's what the majority of the discord says to do. I find more enjoyment as a completionist. 😅

[atomic abyss]

on the assumption you get 200 more over the course of the event

[undone plover]

more cubes wont hurt tho
they might rerun musashi after

[dawn quarry]

I see, gud luck

[whole crypt]

being a completionist doesn't mean you have to finish all drops in a chapter before you move on, you can always come back to it again later

[exotic wren]

Eh I can ignore sushi anyways, guess I'm safe

[brazen hornet]

I agree!

[whole crypt]

you're going to be a long way until you get 100% ships anyway

[orchid patrol]

My formation is unicorn, nelson, indiana | prinz, helena, fargo should I buy enterprise in medal shop?

[undone plover]

yes

and put nelson flag if she is not

are prinz and fargo MLB?
cause otherwise that is a lot of gold ships and u might not get bulins soon to MLB them all

[orchid patrol]

No,but I have 3 Sr bulin

[undone plover]

can u screenshot your fleet?

[orchid patrol]

Btw Nelson still replaced by suruga cause I not yet upgrade her

[atomic abyss]

honestly in that case, i'd rather use indiana with enterprise and unicorn

and drop eugen and fargo for portland and your starter

[undone plover]

honestly even enty might be too much for now he only has 3 bulins

[atomic abyss]

well it's not like nelson s raised anyways

[undone plover]

nelson, indiana , unicorn, portland, helena, starter DD also works

[keen sable]

Capped ships are like the worst thing you can possibly do

You're literally making 0 progress

[keen sable]

Still should buy

[vale kite]

i guess I should decommission that hood until i can figure that out

[jaunty glade]

how often does the resupply shops rotate?

[undone plover]

yeah which is what I said in my first line #gameplay-help message

[atomic abyss]

what resupply

medal shop? monthly

[jaunty glade]

operation sci at cities

[tame jungle]

monthly if you cleared chapter 4 of the story

[jaunty glade]

ahh ok

[keen sable]

Which port shop do you have?

[dawn quarry]

My current formation anything need to change? Campaign 8

[undone plover]

looks fine but overdue for a second fleet probably

and cats missing

[dawn quarry]

How do i do it?

they've still lvl 15 ;-;. Can i use them?

Howww ;-;

[jaunty glade]

the four azur lane ones

[undone plover]

u should have a couple of cats by now just put 2 gold rarity cats in that slot

[dawn quarry]

Yea but how can i put kitty in

[undone plover]

by clicking it

[undone plover]

can u click it again? the command or staff slot

should take u to the cattery

[dawn quarry]

Im dumb.. i figured it out

[undone plover]

anyway when u get to ch9 start on a second fleet

tbh u can even replace lexy and start now

or at least dorm the ships u will potentially raise

[keen sable]

I meant can you only buy 8 items in each one or can you see all items in all four at once

[dawn quarry]

Yh i did, but for 2 fleet idk what ship i should use any suggestions

[undone plover]

make a thread and post your dock

[plain saffron]

does it have timer in the UI?

if yes, every 3 days. if no, monthly

only 1st month of opsi will have the 3 days version because...idk why devs make it like that

did they ever fix missing assets for old shops

[mellow hornet]

for brest should i use a twin 135 or a single 138.6 for the iris libre gear buff? If i dont have the AA

[dawn quarry]

eh how do i make a thread

[forest palm]

135 mle 1938 is Italian, so you'd use the 138

[mellow hornet]

how big of a difference is it? is it worth crafting in gear lab

[wind hazel]

eventually you'd want one or two if you can afford them

they are worth, but maybe not a priority depending on your account

[forest palm]

you don't need to facilitate it, but it certainly does have merit

you could just use the trash can AA gun

Twin 37 ok-ish for AA, but also builds into the Twin 57

[wind hazel]

never notice the rust stain on it

[mellow hornet]

i never noticed that aa gun was iris libre

[plain saffron]

does all super CV in 15-1 spawn immediately?

[mellow hornet]

Could someone help me build 3 fleets for opsi using these ships? (Ignore levels and limit breaking)

[rain vine]

no sirius?
also easier to make a thread and post everyone you have except common and rares

[rapid grail]

can't load images to help, thanks discord

ofc its after i typed and 10s slowmode

[forest palm]

sounds like a you problem

[wind hazel]

musashi bisz vanguard agir helena plymouth

avp haku shinano guam kazagumo laf2/sandy (ideally get a sirius, check medal shop CL)

mob unicorn+whatever you fancy

4th fleet someone help me 🏃🏼‍♂️

[forest palm]

anyway looks like some basic stuff
Musashi + Zwei + Vanny
Shinano + Hakuryu + August
Fried + Uni/Percy + Indep

4th fleet is kind of just junk with what's available

[mortal lance]

Fleet for world 15?

[forest jasper]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[mortal lance]

Thx

[rapid grail]

soyuz volga unikai - guam shimanto laff-ii
alsace yorktown ii indepkai - brest jda sandykai

using musashi is better for mob if you want a full lethal clear

[mortal lance]

Replace for shimanto?

[dawn quarry]

Is dock expansion worthed

[fluid brook]

Retro Sandy altho its more squishy

[rapid grail]

sandykai works

[mortal lance]

Thanks

[wispy geyser]

What is actual best 15-4 boss fleet with bis gear?

[undone plover]

#gameplay-help message

[dawn quarry]

I have some common ship that are like around 40-50 somehow should I delete them? Takes space

[undone plover]

there is 2 options since 3 boss fights

1- strong boss fleet and u fight the bosses like this: boss, mob, boss
2- crossfleet in boss fleet and u fight the bosses like this: mob, boss, mob

[undone plover]

if u need the dockspace sure
but maybe get them to level 70 first and MLB for cheap tech points

[dawn quarry]

I see alright

[wispy geyser]

This guide looks ok, i hope this is going to be upgraded with new gear/ships often

[atomic abyss]

it is

but there's nothing new for w14/15 meta since alsace

[wispy geyser]

Yet xd

I tested eldridge at mob but she is only ok and not better than laffey 2

[lament bay]

is 3 accuracy worth on CV meowfficer?

[brazen hornet]

Are tech points received for limit breaks or max limit breaks?

[atomic abyss]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[jaunty vault]

max lb

[undone plover]

RLD and AVI are better

[silk helm]

does retrofit coun't for fleet tech or naw

[atomic abyss]

no, see the bot message

[silk helm]

EN moment

[forest palm]

retrofit only counts for collection %

[silk helm]

do ppl farm 6-4 for yuudachi dupes or should i just use my gold bulins

[forest palm]

Bulins, 6-4 is a dead map after you get your first copy

[atomic abyss]

^

[silk helm]

TY

[willow crag]

Whats the current exercise meta?

[forest palm]

#pvp

ask around, check the pins

[cursive saffron]

When jp anniversary stream?

[undone plover]

Sep 7th

[cursive saffron]

Aight

[forest palm]

it starts September 7th for Japan, which can be September 6th depending on where you live...

[undone plover]

someone should make a discord event so we can reference it

[urban shoal]

4 more days in JP time wooo

[undone plover]

this is the YT link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNE42EzfCE4

[wind hazel]

Stream starts at <t:1725677100:f>

[forest palm]

the live stream will show you when the stream starts in your local time

[wind hazel]

go ping syan he's on

[forest palm]

[forest jasper]

6 to 8pm JP time for the info

[plain saffron]

I'm still trying to think where in world you are to be that early

If it's 7th in japan on +9 where tf you live +18?

[atomic abyss]

it says sep 6th there

[inner delta]

Anyone who contributed to the recent thread opened by chicaron, next time if i catch you all making thread just for offtopic discussion will get warned according to their text contribution

[forest jasper]

the only thing that matter if you care about NEW ships

[plain saffron]

Referring to this

[inner delta]

ender you should also know better to not join in

[forest jasper]

youtube auto shows your timezone

[plain saffron]

I know...

[rapid grail]

I did not open that, became off topic long before I joined

[inner delta]

and you contributed to the chatter

[forest palm]

shouldn't this all be handled DM side, and warnings being sent out rather than bogging this channel with moderation chatter

[crimson glacier]

why bother, this place has been a mess in general today

[plain saffron]

[rapid grail]

eh whatever

[forest palm]

does the western hemisphere not exist?

[scenic escarp]

what is this

[ember totem]

Schedule of the stream, this particular part is when game news appears

[scenic escarp]

Ah gotcha. ty

[inland shoal]

So how many hours after stream start is that?

[forest palm]

stream starts 12 pm JST, so 6 hours in

[crimson glacier]

whats happening

[forest palm]

it's the game news section

[crimson glacier]

so tune in at 6 hours for the meaningful stuff

[forest palm]

yupers

[inland shoal]

Thx

[crimson glacier]

sounds good

[plain saffron]

I just noticed 6 is 1 day behind, not forward
I keep thinking what country exist more east than japan by that much. My bad

[vernal edge]

Do you have everyone else from PR4 finished?

[forest palm]

PR4 as a whole is more beneficial than 7, or 6, PR5 is slightly less beneficial but still better than 7, or 6, so just finish Hakuryuu

[crimson glacier]

id atleast finish haku

[atomic abyss]

the only way PR4 focus becomes "obsolete" is if all the ships are coinable and if all the gears are in gearlab

[crimson glacier]

eh idk about that

just need easier to get better alternatives for the ships and thats it

[atomic abyss]

fair

[crimson glacier]

and even now in the endgame most of the pr4s arent really getting use

i feel like ply alone is more useful than pr4 as a whole in endgame

[atomic abyss]

well they are still valuable for relatively newer players are they not?

[crimson glacier]

yes

[atomic abyss]

i mean even up to 1-2 years old

[crimson glacier]

no perma alternative for imp other than avp

[atomic abyss]

does nakh count as an alternative

well more like nakh+chkalov

[crimson glacier]

i really doubt but im not going to say anything before someone does tests with maxed nahk

[atomic abyss]

dalaos shd be seeing maxed out nakhs soon so it won't be too long at least

[crimson glacier]

but even if she was, pr7 just seems not worth rushing

and anchor is amazing for "early" tank

[forest palm]

as is 4 → 5 → 7 → 6

I really don't value 6 that much

[crimson glacier]

atleast when we get catchup on 6 you can get shimanto easily to 30 and leave

if she even is that useful in w15 at that point

[atomic abyss]

ancho?
or shiman?

[forest palm]

that's if she isn't powercrepts between now, and then

[crimson glacier]

shimanto

feel like all other prs in 6 are just whatever, and shimanto too is kinda pointless outside of w15

[atomic abyss]

i don't think she will become any less useful for w15

[crimson glacier]

well you only have 6 vanguard spots

[atomic abyss]

it's more of whether she is useful in other future content, which is
no way to know

[crimson glacier]

and it takes so long to reach w15 that the player is bound to have many options

[atomic abyss]

i mean, what even are the w15 alternatives for a player that lacks guam and laff2

shimanto, sandy, cheshire?
is that enough?

[crimson glacier]

well we are getting powercreep constantly

[atomic abyss]

i meant it moreso as a genuine w15 fleet building question

[crimson glacier]

i think when i was doing w15 i had brest sandy shimanto on mob

and i want to say that i used anchor cheshire unzen on boss but

[tulip dawn]

I have d30 nahk but not maxed yet, will prob be speed leveling her to test her next couple days

[crimson glacier]

i cant remember if i used cheshire or no, i just dont like using her so maybe i had something else

we even got eldridge as option now id imagine she would be decent

and i feel like i remember something about harbin being better than shimanto in w15 but that could be some random w15 release day cope

[atomic abyss]

eld AA is cope

[crimson glacier]

yeah but do you need more

[atomic abyss]

it's good, but it's not good enough to be a carry

[sweet delta]

Dalao Yuni

[atomic abyss]

iirc, she places below juneau kai even, for actual AA prowess

suchi, what would it take to clear w15 without guam and laff2?

[silver lintel]

Brest sandy shimanto lol

[crimson glacier]

many ppl did that on w15 release

[sweet delta]

Back in my day I used anch hammii harbin

[crimson glacier]

i think musashi is more useful than laffey2 and guam combined

[atomic abyss]

i mean that's only 1 fleet is my point really

[tulip dawn]

The power of coob 😔 but she’s only lvl 103 so it’ll take awhile before I can compare her to others

[sweet delta]

Yat-sen sandy ning is also very good

[low juniper]

How many coins does 12-1 give compared to 12-4

[silver lintel]

Boss fleet is just 1 battle, ancho ply +1 other works

[sweet delta]

/wiki chapter 12j

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Chapter_12

[forest palm]

the amount is rather small, but it does add up in terms of oil efficiency, so the node you take depends on if you want to lean towards XP, or Coin

[ember totem]

yuni spotted

[silk helm]

is 12-1 easier?

[crimson glacier]

slightly

[forest palm]

12-1 is more forgiving for sure

[crimson glacier]

both of them are really easy on safe

[silk helm]

sometimes i struggle with 12-4, i either need like sandy or uni to complete it

[crimson glacier]

are you on safe danger

[silk helm]

ye

[crimson glacier]

doing 12-1 doesnt really cost you anything

[forest palm]

probably a gear issue

[silk helm]

gear, levels, ships

[crimson glacier]

levels and ships dont really matter at all

unless its like insanely low level

[forest palm]

levels can matter to a degree

[tulip dawn]

12-4 does require quite a bit more to 1 fleet but it’s still not much

[crimson glacier]

but is there a benefit in 1 fleeting

or is there just no other option

[silk helm]

boss xp 😛

[crimson glacier]

you can use other ships in the boss fleet that also get exp so

[tulip dawn]

I personally just stuff fleet 2 with off fleet barrage stuff to power level one fleet, since the amount of times I check back means I don’t run into morale issues

soyuz and mushy off fleet barrages let you get away with a lot of crap in fleet 1 lol

[crimson glacier]

i never saw that as useful

[silk helm]

i don't think i have that many ships unfortunately

[crimson glacier]

the ppl who need help in w12usually arent the ones that can just place their unused 6 URs on other fleet lol

[tulip dawn]

Fair

[forest palm]

I honestly don't bother 1 fleeting 12-4 out of laziness, and have always had the mind set of the boss node xp being w/e

[tulip dawn]

Although help with farming it with shitters is different than help progressing it

[silk helm]

i feel bad if i use my lvl 120s tho cuz i feel like im wasting xp

[forest palm]

as long as their overflow isn't capped it's not really a waste

[crimson glacier]

and boss fleet is so small part of total exp anyway

if you have 1 or 2 120s there it really wont matter

[polar lion]

When is the livestream again? This week or next week?

[forest palm]

Sep 6th if you're in the US, the game news starts 6 hrs into the stream so

[polar lion]

Aight

[vale spindle]

if i mathed correctly the game news segment starts on 9/7 2am en server time

[remote yarrow]

Wait if you are correct it would start at 5AM for me

[eager mulch]

if youre correct then it would start at 5AM for me

[remote yarrow]

[exotic wren]

.... it's the uhh same is it not?

[forest palm]

stream starts 12 pm JST, News Section starts 6 pm JST, currently Japan is 14 hours ahead of Northern America's East Cost which means the stream would start roughly 10 pm closer to 11 pm the new section would start 6 hours thereafter which would be about 4 am EST

[vale spindle]

I live on na west coast and the stream starts on 9/6 7:45pm according to youtube, so if you +6 hours from that you get 9/7 2am

[forest palm]

yup 2 am PST, 5 am EST

[vale spindle]

your message earlier says 4am est...

[forest palm]

"about"

[vale spindle]

1 hour off is not about

[forest palm]

15 minutes off

[vale spindle]

mods will discord event the timestamp anyways closer to the stream

[forest palm]

that they will

[vale spindle]

but i still dont understand how 4am is about 5am

maybe im not englishing

[forest palm]

no, it's just my methodology that I don't really expand on that is fucky lol, since the stream starts at 45 after, I cut that off, and just say about

[vale spindle]

the stream starts at :45 after but the actual stream content starts 15min later

[forest palm]

we've established that yes

[copper ermine]

is the purple rarity single 127mm main gun decent on yuudachi?

[mellow hornet]

is siruis good?

[vale spindle]

non retrofit yuudachi uses single 76 blue rarity

[sweet delta]

non retrofit yuudachi does not get used

[mellow hornet]

like toptier good?

[vale spindle]

above average good

[mellow hornet]

someone told me to get siruis but i dont think she was good enough

[copper ermine]

if i dont have too many good purple rarity guns would blue rarity actually be better?

[sweet delta]

sirius is top tier good in the right situations

[mellow hornet]

would it be overkill with kazagumo? or is she just worse

[remote yarrow]

Higher rarity doesn't always mean better, there's really bad SR Ships and Gear

[forest palm]

they stack, which is good

[remote yarrow]

We recommend farming Divergent Chessboard for Iron Bloods ships for tech points to unlock FdG

[stark quiver]

most of the playerbase just ignores it,
unless you wnna grind for cosmic kicks or DC for tech

[remote yarrow]

Outside of cosmics kicks and some pvp torps it's not worth farming WAs

[mellow hornet]

what are the best mobbing vanguards?

[forest palm]

the ones that don't die

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Cosmic_Kicks

[mellow hornet]

i got brest, kronk, anchorage, laffy2, which should be main tank or off?

[eternal basalt]

What time are you, since its 11AM for me...

[slow fox]

Cosmic Kicks mentioned

[eternal basalt]

Oh wait, server time, yeah, 2 o clock

[eager mulch]

MeGPT spotted

[forest palm]

honestly though it's very situational, and contextual to where you're farming

[remote yarrow]

All of those are good candidates for main tanking

[mellow hornet]

i got my fleet built except for mobbing vanguards and i got tons of great ships left so im wondering. got the 2 missile dds, got yuddachi, shimikaze, etc with the tanks

[forest palm]

but where are you using this is the thing

[mellow hornet]

opsi

[forest palm]

a tank + hinden + unzen go forth and kill

you can slap a mob bb, and st bb in the back along with uni or percy, and also kill abyssal

[remote yarrow]

For opsi mobbing you can use Brest + any combination of a DDG,Yuudachi and Shimakaze

[mellow hornet]

no hinden, just anohter damege dealer then?

[forest palm]

sure could be something like Shim

[mellow hornet]

i thought unzen was quite squishy for being offtank too?

[remote yarrow]

I personally use this for opsi mobbing
FdG,Uni,Indep
Brest,Shima,Unzen

[forest palm]

This is my current mob fleet, does everything, but Arbiter

some people will complain about BB slow down, but I for one do not care enough

[silk helm]

nice, i have 0/6 of those

[mellow hornet]

huh i might just exactly copy that, thanks. indep is sort of a flex slot for me, might experemint

[stark quiver]

i js stack UR's and uni in mob
and hope they kill stronghold with like half gear

[forest palm]

just know you can make a competent Stronghold auto fleet with just Uni + FdG

[silk helm]

do you do the strongholds with this?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah

[forest palm]

that should easily auto

[silk helm]

any poverty vanguard i can swap in? maybe like san fran, anchy, sandy?

[remote yarrow]

For who?

[silk helm]

or all 3... dont have any of those

[remote yarrow]

Well those 3 are decent

Anchorage tanks, Sandy middle and Sanfran offtank

[silk helm]

okie, ill try it out. i had to exit / reenter like 4 times and it was annoying

[eager mulch]

where is your amagi chan

[remote yarrow]

I don't have Amagi chan

[stark quiver]

BRUH

[stark quiver]

what boss fleet did you guys use for 15-4 full auto

[cobalt rapids]

one similar to the ones in /w15

[stark quiver]

i see
also did abdous thread get nuked

[remote yarrow]

Seems like it

[remote prism]

are any pr ships significantly better than others and should be prioritized?

[stark quiver]

unfortunate

[stark quiver]

fdg > all of pr4 > brest/plymouth pr5 > else

[remote yarrow]

Also your research focus should be in PR/DR 4

[remote prism]

i dont have enough points yet for fdg, i just finished getting anchorage should i just go in order of pr4

gonna be honest i have no idea what im doing with my teams

[remote yarrow]

Try to get FdG asap so you can coin her while you do PR4

[stark quiver]

if u need help, u could start a thread and then some1 will help

[remote prism]

ill work on that, i just need to upgrade/limit break iron blood right

[stark quiver]

also why is nj good for w15

[remote yarrow]

Give these a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#kms
Farm Divergent Chessboard for IB ships if you haven't yet

[sweet delta]

UR BB

well like fdg/uvh damage, but with AA

[stark quiver]

danke
also would volga be a viable replacement for aquila
and maybe haku/nano in place of yk2

[sweet delta]

there might be a section for that in /w15

[stark quiver]

im dying from out of healer

[remote yarrow]

Shouhou

[stark quiver]

all i need is my houston2 and then im never touching campaign again

[cobalt rapids]

i think we might have gotten a good poverty off healer recently

[remote yarrow]

I wonder who that might be

[stark quiver]

birb

[inland shoal]

Eldridge? I would call that dmg reduction rather than heal, but ig

[remote prism]

Not sure what to use for team

[eager mulch]

Fargo time V(^-^)V

[dry tree]

Hello how do I disassemble the aux gear?

[inland shoal]

feed to others

[remote yarrow]

You can't, just use them as fodder to upgrade others

[eager mulch]

[inland shoal]

I was so confused before the comma

[remote yarrow]

do not the amagi chan

[cobalt rapids]

ill bap u

[remote yarrow]

The importance of commas

[mellow hornet]

whens next ur event?

[remote yarrow]

Most likely after this one ends so around 2 weeks

[tame jungle]

probably like 2 weeks from now

[jaunty glade]

ch9 - is there any reason why I should not start augmenting if i have the extra gold?

[jaunty vault]

do you?

[jaunty glade]

yeah, can't upgrade gear without more main/general parts

[undone plover]

u mean crafting augments?

[jaunty glade]

yeah

[undone plover]

it is best to save the augment cores for the special augments since u need 15 for each one

if u have a lot of spare u can make the purples
it is more efficient to uncap a blue augment to purple tho (u save 2 cores)

[jaunty vault]

gear isn't the only place where coins are used, but if you're in surplus, i dont see any reason to not use it for augments

[sweet delta]

note that not all gold augments are worth

even for ships you're using

[obsidian copper]

Hello, help with scrapping some gear?

[remote yarrow]

Give this a read https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

wrong link

There

[obsidian copper]

thank you

[vague fable]

is warspite good

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[vague fable]

darn

[remote yarrow]

Way too much invesment for a ship that's worse than some easier accessible BBs

[strong tartan]

No, she's way too expensive for what she does which can be easily done by any other UR bb

[vague fable]

so not worth retro

[remote yarrow]

Not at all, only for collection %

[strong tartan]

Nope unless you care about collection %, skip

[obsidian copper]

dont ask what the latest ship that i have retrofitted is

[atomic abyss]

fdg is just a way better permanent option
as is hood with augment
nelson retro
indiana from the previous event too

[vague fable]

mine

alright, I wont retro her then

[dusk spoke]

im a certified idiot do i need to lower my avg lvl or raise it?

[cobalt rapids]

raise it

[inland shoal]

You need more than 65
You are 55

[remote yarrow]

As a reminder ">" means higher than and "<" lower than

Don't they teach this in schools?

[jaunty vault]

mildly toxic

[atomic abyss]

it's more a touch and go topic but eh

[remote yarrow]

Wasn't my intention mb

[vague fable]

Guam what skill or just 10/10/10

[inland shoal]

Yes, with crocodiles

[atomic abyss]

if you're using her, max all skills
same with any ship you're using

[inland shoal]

10/10/10 is basically always an answer

[dusk spoke]

soo bassicly the cat is bigger then the dog in this one then?
🐈 >🐕

[vague fable]

do we ever run out of books

[atomic abyss]

yes

[atomic abyss]

with 2 skill slots, impossible tbh, you gain more than you use, assuming you play the game ofc

[inland shoal]

How sure are yall that Eldridge has no initial cd anymore?

[sweet delta]

you['re the miner

[jaunty vault]

like 0.1%

[inland shoal]

My mine says it does, that's why I'm asking

[static oak]

Question. Are there any 15-4 fleets here for Auto repeat? Youtube doesn't particularly help and I trust this channel more than YT tbh

[sweet delta]

My mine and mine eyes say it doesn't

[boreal wagon]

i agree with suchi

[remote yarrow]

I agree with the one's that correct

[atomic abyss]

/w15 has fleets that might work for you

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[sweet delta]

I recommend comparing it to her pre-retro Operation Rainbow and you'll see the difference

[sweet delta]

put a healer on boss fleet maybe

[inland shoal]

Does initialCD=True switch off the initial cd or what?

[boreal wagon]

yes

[inland shoal]

Ah not confusing at all

[remote yarrow]

Also don't use Youtube for guides with the exception of Suchi's w15 video

[obsidian copper]

i want to double check

[remote yarrow]

double check what?

[remote yarrow]

bad

[vague fable]

I just use this to check if equip is bad or good
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca

[obsidian copper]

it has a different name on the list

[remote yarrow]

Open the gear page itself and check the EN name

[static oak]

yeah I learned that the hard way lol

[jaunty vault]

ectl isn't the best place to check if an equip is good or not

[atomic abyss]

the zero is shit yes

[remote yarrow]

It's there on the right

[obsidian copper]

ty

[remote yarrow]

Blindly following ECTL is no bueno, read gear notes by hovering over them since gear is dependent on content

[vague fable]

ill do it when gears start to matter, too lazy for now

[remote yarrow]

but gears always matter, unless you are just using the poverty options ofc

[stark quiver]

i can slide you mine, works on 0 tech

[static oak]

I would love that! I have my own W15-4 fleet which sorta works but I made that out of poverty. Now that new ships have released and I've had better time to get materials I might as well fix it

[stark quiver]

it kinda looks something like this
totally didnt follow the guide
and get it down to safe

[remote yarrow]

No gear

[cobalt rapids]

this fleet work with 0 tech and no gear

[stark quiver]

hold up lemme get the gear

[remote yarrow]

that sounds like a clickbait title

[stark quiver]

this w15 fleet cant lose with 0 tech & no gear click here to learn!!!!

[static oak]

fleet's soo good it can beat 15-4 without gear

just seeing them would make the enemy run away and you win

[sweet delta]

wait you actually use perseus indep for 3 bosses?

[stark quiver]

yea
it works so im not changing it

[sweet delta]

ig guam sandy is a lot of aa

[stark quiver]

wait the mob fleet died last battle, lemme change up some stuff

if u have better gear use better gear
and pls turn on tech

[daring wadi]

Should I invest in pulling the banner?

[cobalt rapids]

not at all, grab her from points

[inland shoal]

No, you can just get Zuihou for free from farming the event

[remote yarrow]

No, you can get Zuihou for free, save for UR

[inland shoal]

"free"

[stark quiver]

mfw i gamble for a "free" item

[inland shoal]

But better pay oil than koob

[remote yarrow]

Anything that doesn't require cubes is free in my book

[inland shoal]

skins

[daring wadi]

Should I pull limited banner?

[stark quiver]

what no, not now

[remote yarrow]

We just told you not to do so

[inland shoal]

How is that question different from your last one?

[cobalt rapids]

its limited now

[daring wadi]

Lol mb

[remote yarrow]

Just save for the next UR event coming later this month do 1 light build until then for now, and if you are new I suggest you read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[remote prism]

looking at a gear guide for AA guns, what is considered low AA for a ship?

[atomic abyss]

below 130% AA eff and/or below 200 AA stat

[remote yarrow]

Plus not having any skill that buffs your AA

[atomic abyss]

honestly, it's better to know what's high AA

[obsidian copper]

looking at these tier lists make me remember when the sb2c and the barracuda were the best dive/torp bomber

[atomic abyss]

sb2c is still for most intents and purposes, the 2nd best

[sweet delta]

Basically just Shimakaze and lafey for you , but you should ignore the "low aa" guns and just put good guns

[remote prism]

i haavent playedin a while and have sb2c on everyone still i didnt know it was outdated

[atomic abyss]

the only thing better than sb2c is a rainbow DB so

you WILL still use sb2c

[obsidian copper]

idk if its outdated i just dont see it as a pick on enterprise inthe community tier list

[sweet delta]

It's probably hidden underneath a gold

[remote yarrow]

I see it just below the URs, behind the Gold helldiver that isn't that much of an upgrade to begin with

[obsidian copper]

yeah it is ty

dont know about how to use this website asm

didnt know what the fractions were for

[stark quiver]

fractions are sidegrades

[remote yarrow]

Don't follow it blindly and read gear notes by hovering over them

[obsidian copper]

i have only scrapped based on the uhh

wiki page

[stark quiver]

as long as you dont scrap the hedgehog, it cant be that bad

[obsidian copper]

i scrapped the hedgehog

[atomic abyss]

[remote yarrow]

[stark quiver]

bricked, make a new account

[obsidian copper]

jk

if i dont see it in the list I dont scrap it, is there only one available in the whole game

[stark quiver]

anywaysss, as long as you dont scrap the hedgehog, its salvagable

theres one per account

[obsidian copper]

damn

[remote prism]

for the CB CA CL Aux section, tank equipment would just go on the one at bottom left of vanguard and the damage increase on the other 2?

[eager mulch]

isn’t XSC3B better than helldiver?

[atomic abyss]

you'd ideally carry 2 survival auxes and ignore the offensive ones for frontliners

[remote yarrow]

iirc it's just a noticeable upgrade at +13

[atomic abyss]

well, only at +13

[remote yarrow]

Before that it's 🤏

[eager mulch]

saying the ONLY thing better than helldiver is ur is wrong then

[jaunty vault]

same bombs, same damage, +20 AVI at +10 enhance

18% better at +13 vs +10 helldiver

[cobalt rapids]

either way its not worth crafting

[jaunty vault]

not necessarily wrong, considering the opportunity cost

[remote prism]

id put my best tank equip on squishiest?

[atomic abyss]

you put your best tank gear on your tank, and keep the squishiest in the middle

[remote yarrow]

No, you'll mostly give DDs a double HP aux gear and the rest like CL,CA,CB an HP aux + Rudder

But for now that you don't really have much do what Ender said

[eager mulch]

I’m just saying in a vacuum I’d take golddiver over helldiver

[cobalt rapids]

saying they are better might mislead ppl to go for goldivers on the other hand

[jaunty vault]

true

[sweet delta]

Like ectl xsb3c top of the stack?

[vale spindle]

but my .1s reload

[eager mulch]

not everyone doesn’t have xsb3c

[stark quiver]

last battle for mob fleet in 15-4 ful auto is out of ammo right?

[remote prism]

i dont have enough of the good weapons of the tierlist to cover both boss and mob fleet would i prioritize mob?

[cobalt rapids]

post ur depot in ur thread with equipped filter on

[remote prism]

worth purchasing last slot in tactical class?

[atomic abyss]

it's questionable to even buy the 3rd, let alone the 4th

[remote prism]

o

[tawdry sluice]

After a certain point you just put in random ships to utilize the 3rd slot

Useful early when you don't have the books to use it but late game you don't have enough ships to make use of it

[fluid brook]

Dont buy academy 3rd slot, cuz F2P gems are very scarce, if its paid gems do as you like

[stark quiver]

@worldly pewter make a help thread

[remote yarrow]

I think there's a reason why it got nuked so I wouldn't make another one

[stark quiver]

nah u right 🏃‍♂️

[coarse heron]

is the best farming map still 12-4?

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur prios but its a great map to farm

[stark quiver]

one of the best for coin/oil ratio

[coarse heron]

my priorities is getting a good return for this absolute mountain of oil I need to burn

[fluid brook]

Well best can be, but its the one that gives the most resources needed, if you need only exp 11-1, if you need exp and cog chips, 12-1, if you need only gold 13-4, it might also depend if theres any event going

[fluid brook]

Then grind 12-4, for leveling up ships for tech

Or also Event for Zuihou and exp

[coarse heron]

already finished event

[fluid brook]

12-4 then

[eager mulch]

i missed the abdou thread drama

[cobalt rapids]

there was no drama

[eager mulch]

there is no amagi chan in your dock

[cobalt rapids]

true..

[eager mulch]

change that

[worldly pewter]

~~we can always start one ~~

[eager abyss]

does fate simulation exist on kearsarge?

[forest palm]

Agir, DR5, DR6, and the whole of PR7 do not have fate sim

also do not ask when, we do not know, we are not the devs

[keen sable]

between 25%-60% sure. I've never claimed there's no initial cd. Just that it isn't 20s.

[silk helm]

wait so haku has fate sim and agir doesn't?

[dire epoch]

IS there a gear lab guide around here?

[forest palm]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[dire epoch]

Sweet, thanks!

[vague fable]

Whats the TP stage for

[forest palm]

it's a one time stage that gives like 800 points for the first clear after that it's useless

[vague fable]

aight

[static harbor]

Who would you say is better for mobbing, Soyuz or Alsace?

[sick stone]

whats the best xp stage farm for shipyard?

[sweet delta]

your normal farm spot in chapter 12 or higher

[coarse heron]

D3 in Events
Barring that, some people will say 11-1, but 12-4 with a full fleet is a better use of your time

[stark quiver]

D3 xp is the same as w10

Most people do 12-1/4 bc it’s more flexible for bringing low level ships for the xp grind

How much hvars did the whichitaM fleet use

[fluid brook]

four if you mean this fleet #gameplay-help message

[sweet delta]

that is so old

[stark quiver]

What’s the newer ones

[sweet delta]

it was lost in the great thread nuke

[fluid brook]

Can you cook it again?

[eager mulch]

he called you old you just gonna take that?

[fluid brook]

well hes more knowledgeable than me so yes

[sweet delta]

looks like we have backups

[hollow gust]

I ditched stigmas fleet the first day into lvl15

[stark quiver]

Alright I gotta somehow farm 3 in one week,
There’s one from just doing the event,
So 2 more I gotta grind for

And before you say, whichitaM already ended by that time, I know

[fluid brook]

hvar from the event is almost one, not one

[stark quiver]

Isn’t it 15 from shop and then 10 from milestones

[eager mulch]

it’s like what 3/5ths?

[fluid brook]

i dont remember exactly how much, I only remember the pain for grinding the BPs

[whole crypt]

[stark quiver]

I’ll probably have around 100k oil saved up

[sharp socket]

is hvar event coming?

[whole crypt]

not soon enough

[stark quiver]

Soon™️

[whole crypt]

the problem is more likely morale than oil

[frank quartz]

Enterprise or Hood

[sharp socket]

so you guys are just lamenting needing to farm it again

[eager mulch]

if there’s anything to pull mail oil for its hvars

[stark quiver]

So what I’m hearing is, 6 fleets of shitters for spamming

[fluid brook]

Its as you say,it should be enough for 1 copy, i dont know why i remember it didnt fill the 25 BPs needed

[eager mulch]

6 1:1 fleets in dorm

[undone plover]

Hull restricted shitters

[fluid brook]

just ignore this, this never happen, when event comes we will know

[stark quiver]

For what, and without context I’d go with enty

[keen sable]

there was no pain. it was ridiculously easy getting designs. it's getting 150 that was troublesome

[fluid brook]

i only got 3 hvars including the BPs from event shop/milestones

[keen sable]

hvars were on rateup so that's just you not spending your oil.

[fluid brook]

how much us got?

[keen sable]

5.5

[fluid brook]

gotta grind when event comes

[finite crag]

How many ur reruns until yorktown 2

[keen sable]

you can try but

1. i doubt there will be rateup and
2. you only get 1 week

[sly haven]

which ships should i focus on getting stronger? i dont know much about which ship combats who so at the moment im just doing all the ones with retrofits.

[fluid brook]

dont worry, thats my problem gotta fix em myself

[stark quiver]

They’ll probably fix the rate up bug?

[vale spindle]

the ones rated high on the tierlist is a good start

[keen sable]

good ones? ones you're using? ones better than what you're using?

[sly haven]

wheres the tierlist?

[sly haven]

yeah idk which ones are good tho thats the thing

[whole crypt]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/

[sly haven]

thx

[keen sable]

It would help to show what you have

[whole crypt]

the idea was HVARs were on "rate up" because it rolled over from Ryza collab presumably from them copy and pasting shit

[sly haven]

that is true hold on

its just that i have alot

[whole crypt]

we should be back to normal SR gear drop rates for the rerun, but we won't know till it's actually here

[keen sable]

make a thread and then add the picture there

[sly haven]

because i didnt know which were good so i kept them all

[sly haven]

sorry but im not sure how to make a thread

[remote yarrow]

top right of your screen

[sly haven]

oh thx

[light flax]

Who should i max limit break sirius or perseus

[whole crypt]

depends

[sly haven]

my ships

[remote yarrow]

Not much rreason to use Perseus outside of Tech when you can just use Unicorn

[whole crypt]

maybe his Unicorn is capped so going for tech is fine too? we don't know
for all we know the best ship to LB now for him could be neither of those

unless he's actually putting a CV boss fleet together now Sirius isn't going be adding much

[light flax]

Tbh i dont know whats good for a fleet

Since im a new player

[remote yarrow]

What's your current fleet and what campaign stage are you at? If you just started use the recommended starter fleet in the newbie guide https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[whole crypt]

if you're really new then the answer is neither of them, follow newbie fleet first and save your bulins

[light flax]

Not that new

[whole crypt]

what chapter are you on

[light flax]

8

[keen sable]

enterprise

[viscid swift]

by AL standards that's still pretty new

[finite crag]

pulling for zuiho goes hard

[light flax]

True

[south sequoia]

Yeah especially when jp anniversary is right around the corner

[viscid swift]

also, limit break your ships

[whole crypt]

stick with starter fleet
don't pull for any more zuiho if you're still pulling

[keen sable]

basically you should ditch sirius and perseus, take the hit of switching to unicorn and helena

[light flax]

Ohhh okayyy

[silk helm]

is sea hornet good against medium armor?

[sweet delta]

about as good as tigercat and flapjack against medium armor

[fluid brook]

use rockets against med armor

[keen sable]

zkk is medium armor

[brisk dragon]

who's next meta?

[stark quiver]

Nagato

[brisk dragon]

oh that's unexpected. nice

[sly haven]

are there any submarines with retrofits?

[vale spindle]

nope

[eager mulch]

nope

[sly haven]

ok

[vale spindle]

anything is possible in the future though

[eager mulch]

like MURM emote

[little tree]

~~ farm that X-5 sub only hard stage fro matts ~~

[jaunty glade]

is 10-1>9-1 for farming?

[vale spindle]

not really, chapter 9 is more oil efficient

[stark quiver]

Yes
Huh

[vale spindle]

the issue with 9-1 is sometimes there can be extra mob spawns that block the boss, so you get extra battles which is annoying, hence why you can try other chapter 9 stages for better luck

[eager mulch]

also no cogs

[vale spindle]

its between chapter 9 or chapter 10 so cogs don't matter

[jaunty glade]

i thought 12+ was cogs?

[plain saffron]

Below 12-1, 11-1 is best, below that 9-1 is best

For exp/oil

[sweet delta]

10-1 has a 9% chance of one extra mob battle, while 9-1 has 85% chance of one to three extra mob battles

[slow fox]

Suchiperson is...battleminning

[fluid brook]

can you send the bloc note of that info?

[stuck dew]

exp and oil efficiency are pretty unimportant after a while. go for 12-4/13-4 for gold/time

[keen sable]

D3 > both

[jaunty glade]

D3 being the next event last stage?

[keen sable]

also the newer events in war archives

[copper ermine]

is yuudachi retrofit a better destroyer than L'Audacieux?

[keen sable]

anything with sirens generally

[jaunty glade]

i haven't touched war archieve (at w10) - should i start doing it? i've been capped for a while

[vale spindle]

What about other chapter 9 stages? im pretty sure 9-1 is the worst offender for extra mob fights

[keen sable]

10-4 > D3(with sirens) > 10-1

[vale spindle]

Only if you need collection ships for tech points otherwise not really
better off pushing to 11-1 which is way better than 10-4 and events for grinding

[sweet delta]

9-2 is the worst if you use mob and boss fleet

[fluid brook]

Do you have the notes of the percents?

[vale spindle]

Its just math from spawn locations

[fluid brook]

thank you

[vale spindle]

virus ban

[eager mulch]

sam will save us from the virus

[snow fractal]

Which world stage best for grinding exp?

[sharp socket]

12-1

[eager mulch]

12+

[snow fractal]

Noted

[plain saffron]

So you did figure out what strat they use for enemy choosing

[sweet delta]

always had been

[plain saffron]

[sly haven]

since i have soyuz and a couple northern parliament ships, should i try focusing on a synergy fleet?

[ember totem]

Don't focus so much on faction fleeting, they're mostly suboptimal since the synergies aren't exactly gamebreaking

[sly haven]

ok

im having a hard time picking and choosing what ships to put together into a fleet

[south sequoia]

Faction fleeting is only a thing once you're kind of rich enough since you're needing to invest in the best ships possible just to compete with other fleets that possibly require less investment while performing just as well

[south sequoia]

You could always just make a thread and post your dock so we maybe able to assist you

[sly haven]

i already did

[plain saffron]

How many flare node in 14-2 and if it's 1 are the spawn location rng

[south sequoia]

Ah

[sly haven]

is there a way to share a thread

[south sequoia]

You're still fairly new

I just checked the thread

[sly haven]

yeah

[south sequoia]

Just go with your fleet for now until you're more stable and have more resources to give out to your ships

[sly haven]

ok

[golden moth]

The upcoming mainte on this thrus..is a.mini event again yea?a ded week..before the cta?

[plain saffron]

Should be cta i think, and new meta fight

[golden moth]

This upcoming mainte?its a cta?

[south sequoia]

We don't know for sure yet

[golden moth]

Ok ok i see

[south sequoia]

Just wait we still have other days of the week

[plain saffron]

What did last jp notes said

[south sequoia]

Lemme peak

[golden moth]

Cant wait whaha..so hyped and coping for yamato

[plain saffron]

1 and rng

[ebon oxide]

I finished my Anchorage catchup, which was my 1st. Which ship should be next?

[golden moth]

Got it thanks..

[ebon oxide]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#shipyard_priority_by_season

Are any of the ones in bold outdated/have easier to get sidegrades?

[light flax]

Whens next build event?

[vale spindle]

i need to readjust the bolded ones so just ignore bolded for now, orders should be about the same though

[stark quiver]

Probably sometime this month
2 weeks later

[polar lion]

Do u guys spend AP to clear C3 and below coords?

[plain saffron]

Yes

[ebon oxide]

I see, thanks.

[vale spindle]

yes cause strat search exists

[forest palm]

also mat potential over voucher potential

[light flax]

Man i was finna spend 80 if it was sooner

[plain saffron]

Does 15-1 have ammo nodes?

[stark quiver]

No
Iirc only 15-4 has it

Yea no it doesn’t

Only 15-4

[polar lion]

I mean uhh is it efficient to spend AP to clear C3 and below coords compared to ignoring all the C3s coords and spamming C5 for the chance paw prints spawns

[forest palm]

just do them

[wind hazel]

i do c3 if i have time. c5 if i don't have time

[sweet delta]

in terms of gold plates, safe c5 beats explorable c1-2. But some of the c1-2 give AP or voucher coins as rewards

[vale spindle]

i just strategic search all coordinates and forget until a couple hours later

[stark quiver]

For strategic search, can I like go to a c5 zone, and then auto search every single zone at one go

[forest palm]

ya the R3, and lower cords AP cost is inconsequential, and again the mat potential, and voucher potential out of those cords add up

[plain saffron]

Thanks

[polar lion]

Hmm, do secured C5 has lower mats/voucher potential compared to C3 below coords?

[plain saffron]

You get more voucher than you need, imo not worth letting those coords to burn into voucher

[sweet delta]

coords means hidden zone?

[polar lion]

butt muh ur print drop chance

[sweet delta]

i just use hidden zone logger

[polar lion]

Yea dem hidden zones

[vale spindle]

yes

[plain saffron]

For question mark that appear after 1 fight, can you sit on its spawn node and get immediately

[polar lion]

The hidden zone logger costs 5k oil iirc, no? Das a steep price

[forest palm]

no that's the Exploration one, the Hidden Zone one is just Vouchers

[polar lion]

Oh

[gaunt dagger]

How do i get more fleet points?

[plain saffron]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[plain saffron]

Do player starts with 4 comms directly or it increase based on chapter cleared?

And are all ammo nodes 5 ammo

[vale spindle]

ammo nodes are always 3 ammo, player fleet has 5 ammo per fleet

[plain saffron]

Ouh 3

[vale spindle]

only way to increase the 5 ammo limit is stuff like repair ship / round shot (from ix)

[sharp socket]

i remember i had 2 comms and increased to 4 gradually

but i dont know specifically when i got more comms

[plain saffron]

Thanks

[fluid brook]

comms slots increases by player level

[lethal bolt]

Wanna ask, is it worth mlbing and using vanguard? My current UR I'm using is Alsace

[frank pulsar]

yes

shes still top 4 bossing bb

[lethal bolt]

Ok thx

[plain saffron]

Are you sure sure

[fluid brook]

Yes i remember grinding for commander levels for more comms slots

[plain saffron]

Til it's in wiki, thanks

[vale spindle]

now go and fix the "Game Menu" page since you are modernizing wiki

[forest palm]

[plain saffron]

[stark quiver]

are gem comms gaurenteed to give gems

[wind hazel]

no

[plain saffron]

Nope

[stark quiver]

huh so ive js been lucky, thanks

[wind hazel]

would be nice if it was

[plain saffron]

Remind me once i done digging everything related to map

How do i even visualize ch14 fog in wiki

[plain saffron]

People would be farming 2-4 non stop

[sharp socket]

what do i buy next in core shop, i have:
3 white shell, 2 black shell
3 snorkel, 3 pressure hull
1 breguet

[vale spindle]

na i plan to do it this weekend / next week anyways during the dead week between events

[wind hazel]

i assume already have indep and the beacon+manjuu

[plain saffron]

Smh my head

I'll just put all stage data on my site since I'm lazy to learn wiki stuff

[wind hazel]

in that case maybe fumo, oxytorp whatever you need really

or more shells if you're a lazy bum

[sharp socket]

i have beacon and indep but no manjuu

[wind hazel]

get the manjuu first then, it will be useful

[sharp socket]

which cv goes fast but not so fast that manjuu works to sync them

actually nevermind dont answer that because ill go mess around with the calculator and find it myself