gameplay-help

[jaunty vault]

all DDs get a bonus out of 3 on max limit break

• 30% more aux stats
• shot requirements halved for AoA
• improved spread for torps

[stoic stirrup]

Edit this to change the output of the custom command 4!

[pulsar hornet]

Ohhh, neat

Should have read the notes better whne this was added lol

[jaunty vault]

years ago

[gaunt dagger]

How to deal with explosive boats?

I keep on losing cause they kill my backline and the game forces me to quit

[remote yarrow]

Have a BB on Flag spot

[gaunt dagger]

I do

They just kill my sides instead :/

[finite crag]

use a good secondary gun

[gaunt dagger]

For backline or vanguard?

[remote yarrow]

on the BB

[finite crag]

for said bb in flag

[gaunt dagger]

Oh ok ill try that

[remote yarrow]

Well it also depends on the level of your BB and stage

[remote yarrow]

Got any question?

[fervent hearth]

No my dear Mona Lisa may you have a blessed day

[remote yarrow]

oh it's you I was wondering why I had you blocked

[plain saffron]

[forest palm]

[novel condor]

[jaunty vault]

off topic emotes in gph? ban pls

[novel condor]

Nuh uh

[south sequoia]

Avoid too much off topic chatter and usage of stickers in gph please Its fine every now and then as long as this channel is still on track with helping and asking but out of nowhere is a nono, thank you

[rapid grail]

epic games

[finite crag]

does anyone have that one fleet tech website

[stark quiver]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/

[finite crag]

cool thanks

[plain saffron]

Does 14-4 clearing mode have fog?

[inner delta]

no

[plain saffron]

Thanks

[stark quiver]

it doesnt?
i heard it does

[inner delta]

i dont see it

unless it sometime do

[plain saffron]

If it doesn't have at start it shouldn't have it at all

[remote yarrow]

it has

[inner delta]

idk last time when i was testing rice fleet i didnt notice it

but that's like 2 month ago

[plain saffron]

So another inconsistency

[inner delta]

o well

[polar lion]

This is when putting Eld on leftmost or rightmost position?

[inner delta]

what does fog even do

[plain saffron]

Circle shrink slower

[inner delta]

is that good or bad

[sterile jolt]

She can die... She's not tank anyway

[jaunty vault]

good if your circle
bad if enemy

[sweet delta]

it's both

[jaunty vault]

[inner delta]

huh never notice it

[shell willow]

thats not what they asked tho

[sweet delta]

good x bad = bad

[sweet delta]

it's when assuming 25 seconds per proc

[jaunty vault]

• × - = -

[polar lion]

sushi, when W15 test vid with Eld?

Aww

[inner delta]

is it even needed? eldrige isnt that easy to get + need retro

[polar lion]

I need for research purposes

[remote yarrow]

Would she even be any better than the current commonly used ships?

[inner delta]

then test you go

[polar lion]

Lazy

[plain saffron]

I'm not pro enough to test

[sterile jolt]

She's fine

[jaunty vault]

replacing laff2?

[sterile jolt]

Yeah

[jaunty vault]

oh

[sweet delta]

that fleet is so busted that replacing any of the 3 would work

[inner delta]

exactly

[sterile jolt]

Yes)

[sweet delta]

or even remove an entire ship

[polar lion]

I think putting Eld in the middle hurts her skill proc rate the most tho

[sterile jolt]

It hurts when 2 torps hit her... And she die. That the reason why middle

[slow fox]

This is when putting Eldridge in any position...but I think that she is best in the middle or offtank.

[buoyant kernel]

Should I use D3 for cdc? (I'm on 6% for the 2nd cdc for fdg)

[stark quiver]

no
if you already have 10k event pt

[buoyant kernel]

Thanks, imma carry on grinding at 12-1

I got the 10k points rn

[soft raft]

Then yeah go back to 12-1
D3 XP is about as efficient as W10

[plain saffron]

Why not 11k

[sterile jolt]

And yeah... 20 sec proc CD is fcking problem...

[plain saffron]

My 5 gold plate

[shell willow]

my rainbow blue book

[crisp mural]

is building the only way to get Zuihou? no 60 map clears this time?

[tame jungle]

read the event page

[soft raft]

10k event points on the milestone rewards ladder

[crisp mural]

oh, thanks!

[crisp mural]

for future reference, where can i find it?

[tame jungle]

events button ingame, it's the same menu that pops up on daily login to show those monthly rewards
main menu, top right, under settings

[gaunt dagger]

Guys can someone tell me how cats work? I just got back and I’m so confused

[eternal basalt]

/cats

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

MEOWFFICER QUICK GUIDE

What are Meowfficers?
They are companions that you can add up to 2 per fleet (including sub fleets). They buff your fleets with their "skills" and "talents". There are 27 different types of them.

How do I get them?
You get them by opening Cat Boxes in the Cattery. The Cattery can be found under HQ > Cat Lodge. The first Cat Box you buy everyday is free. You can buy up to 14 more per day, with each costing 1500 Gold. It is strongly recommended you do NOT binge on them!

How do I level them?
Just like ships, they gain experience when sortied. They do not cost oil, however their exp gain is dependent on the oil spent by the fleet. They max out at level 30. You can also level them by feeding other meowfficers to them, at about 30% exp loss (20% bonus if identical). Additionally they can gain levels passively through Comf-Forts.

What are talents?
Talents buff a specific ship type or faction. They get 1-3 permanent talents, depending on rarity.. Every 5 levels they gain, they get a Cat Paw which can be used to roll new talents or raise the level of some talents. You can reroll any new talents once every 24h with gold (increases with number of talents).

What are skills?
Skills are unique to each type of Meowfficer. They usually give some stat buff or some perk to the fleet. They get 1 skill initially, and they can get up to 3 skills, each obtained by feeding duplicates (1 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd). The potency of the skills is dependent on their stats which increase through levels.
Do note that the skill stat buffs are mostly inferior to talent stat buffs.

Visit the AL Wiki Page on Meowfficers for more details.
Cat Guide by Riceist#3504 for detailed explanation of skills and talents.

[gaunt dagger]

Does it matter that the wiki page is for jp?

[tame jungle]

Click the link

[gaunt dagger]

I did

Oh the guide

[eternal basalt]

Looks english to me

[tame jungle]

I can’t read japanese and i can read it so i don’t think it’s japanese

[gaunt dagger]

Yeah Ik the wiki just ends in .jp

Like the url

[frank pulsar]

dont question it
i was confused too at first

[jaunty vault]

i wasn't

[gaunt dagger]

Well now I know to question it xD

Also ik this is prob subjective but is 2bb and cv better or 2cv and 1bb?

[jaunty vault]

it is subjective

good ships are better than bad ships

[gaunt dagger]

Well ig what are the differences?

[jaunty vault]

a good BB will perform better than a bad CV and vice versa

[gaunt dagger]

Well yeah but like assuming equal goodness

[jaunty vault]

that being said, for most of campaign, youd use 1 BB, 2 CV fleets

[strong tartan]

You can't really ever compare a cv to a bb

[gaunt dagger]

Are cvs a different archetype

[gaunt dagger]

Oh alr got it

[strong tartan]

Is it ok if I use 3 monitors

[steady beacon]

CV = carrier
BB = battleship
They play and function quite differently

[jaunty vault]

as long as you're fine with it

[plain saffron]

1 monitor already questionable 3 is

[jaunty vault]

what if they're farming CA RLD

[eternal basalt]

Okay on 12-4 or lower

[jaunty vault]

nah BMs get evaporated in w12

[strong tartan]

I'll prove you wrong watch

[gaunt dagger]

Is taihou better than enterprise?

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely not

[jaunty vault]

yesnt

[plain saffron]

I'm watching

[jaunty vault]

id say for campaign mobbing, taihou slaps

[gaunt dagger]

Ah

[jaunty vault]

but enty probably has more pure damage

[gaunt dagger]

Also if u could recommend a research ship what would it be

I have no clue so I’m curious

[atomic abyss]

She has unless she fails to proc lucky e entirety

First should be either Friedrich de Grosse or Anchorage

[eternal basalt]

Agir

[jaunty vault]

id recommend the samheart research guide

[strong tartan]

Is this your first time doing pr research

[gaunt dagger]

Yes

[strong tartan]

Anchorage may B

[gaunt dagger]

Can I say my current line up so y’all can tell me what I’m missing?

[frank pulsar]

ancho so you can start coining earlier

[gaunt dagger]

Hmm

[jaunty vault]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[eternal basalt]

For the NO I didn't know it'd be their first

[atomic abyss]

It's either Friedrich de Grosse or Anchorage, whichever you're closer to unlocking

[gaunt dagger]

Okay

[jaunty vault]

would unironically recommend roon

[atomic abyss]

Considering Friedrich de Grosse is gonna be significantly better than everything else a new player has

If you lack the tech, then it's a different story of course

[gaunt dagger]

Better than hood right

[atomic abyss]

Yes, way better

[gaunt dagger]

But I heard Yamato is coming out

[strong tartan]

That hasn't been confirmed

[gaunt dagger]

It sounds reasonable tho

[eternal basalt]

Until IJN UR

[strong tartan]

Idk who told you Yamato was officially coming out but you've been lied to

[atomic abyss]

No confirmation of what ship is coming out

[gaunt dagger]

It is a very famous ship btw no one said it officially was I just heard someone speculating

[finite crag]

people have been saying yamoto soon snce the dawn of time i wouldnt bet on it if i were you

[gaunt dagger]

Alright xD

[finite crag]

literally just cope

[atomic abyss]

Well, since 6 years ago yes

[frosty dune]

gacha URs use different materials from DRs to get max limit break so you should be fine

[gaunt dagger]

That’s pretty long

[strong tartan]

People say the same thing ever year

[finite crag]

trust me guys its really yamato this time like fr

[gaunt dagger]

Yamato is so famous tho

They probably will add it eventually unless there’s no sunken boats in the game

[strong tartan]

And this really isn't the channel for speculating if she's coming out this anniversary

[eternal basalt]

Ehm, Shinano

[gaunt dagger]

Yaya I know so Freddie for research

[eternal basalt]

Well know soon enough, 5 more days

[gaunt dagger]

Yeaaaa

I’m worried I won’t have enough of the rolling vubes lol

[eternal basalt]

IJN event lasts 3 weeks... plenty of cube build time

[gaunt dagger]

Also another gameplay question is it okay for me to use the xp boosts

Or should I save them
Got it

[eternal basalt]

You could save some for the UR

[gaunt dagger]

Well I might need to use some cause I’m getting enterprise soon

[plain saffron]

Anyone have good auto 14-4 lethal fleet?

[stark quiver]

i think the /w15 mob fleet works fine, maybe a change or two

[muted ember]

what's the difference between Roon and Roon muse?

[strong tartan]

One screams one sings

[stark quiver]

roon is slightby better iirc, but both are negligible

[plain saffron]

The stats the skills
Basically 2 different ship

[muted ember]

is it worth it to buy Roon Muse to grind normal Roon?

[plain saffron]

The only thing they share is skins

The cost is too expensive

[inner delta]

go look at rice thread for 14 test

[south sequoia]

• Muse does not contribute to grind to exp grind
• Expensive ship to limit break
• Waste of core data just for exp grind

[stoic stirrup]

Edit this to change the output of the custom command 4!

[muted ember]

are any of the PR1 ships any good now? cause I know Neptune is below average from what I heard here

[stark quiver]

no

[muted ember]

welp,atleast I know one good ship in PR2

just need to find the ships to grind for her....

but I'm still far away from any PR2

[muted ember]

I thought Muse counted to as the same faction as the non muse variant

[plain saffron]

Muse does contribute

[south sequoia]

Oops wrong wording

I meant

They do not provide faction points

For you to develop

[plain saffron]

If it doesn't work I'll find you

[south sequoia]

Ship alters outside metas can contribute to exp but not their faction tech (outside of kaga bb)

[muted ember]

pain

why are german ships so rare ;~;

[inner delta]

go look at rice thread for 14

[stark quiver]

hold up lemme cook something up rq

[inner delta]

literally giving you the answer

ig nagami doesnt want spoon feed

[plain saffron]

i just read it

[inner delta]

i post it twice

[frosty dune]

try farming divergent chessboard in war archives

[plain saffron]

Ouh didn't notice it my bad

[inner delta]

literally double pinged

[plain saffron]

Man the ui is shit on mobile

Can't search thread

[stark quiver]

wher yuki

also whats the next best non UR gun for laffey2

[inner delta]

wdym where

in sam discord

where he cook shit

[plain saffron]

ouh

[muted ember]

any of the gears you can buy from core data shop worth it besides these 2(atleast I think these are good)?

[stark quiver]

oh im stupid
slide link for discord rq

[inner delta]

no, go open his website

[muted ember]

I completely forgot about the existence of war archive

[stark quiver]

oh yea he has one, i forgot

[plain saffron]

or my website

[south sequoia]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[plain saffron]

i think i'm dumb, can't find it

[muted ember]

ok any good purple gear for London retro?

[jaunty vault]

its the one opened by yuki

[jaunty vault]

purple gear as in?

[muted ember]

well since I barely got any Gold equipment,what are some good purple equipment for London

[jaunty vault]

btw samheart564 equipment picture guide has poverty equipment options

if you're looking for a general guide on equips, thats a good place

do /equip in bot spam

could also use ectl gear recommendations for london

[jaunty vault]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca?ship=london

[inner delta]

you are dum

[jaunty vault]

admin being toxic

[inner delta]

nagami eat toxic for breakfast

[jaunty vault]

what has happened to gph

[plain saffron]

wtf mod toxic

[inner delta]

[muted ember]

this is usually what I use but some peeps here told me to not rely on it too much

[plain saffron]

[jaunty vault]

its alright to use for poverty options

[remote yarrow]

You can rely on it but not blindly, read gear notes and poverty options (purple) are fine

[plain saffron]

anyway found it thanks to renhex pinging me. even though it only have mob fleet

[muted ember]

I do read the notes on each weapon

[jaunty vault]

renhex beloved

[inner delta]

you only need mob fleet

the boss you can just do any rainbow

[jaunty vault]

most people don't

[inner delta]

the hard part is doing the mob

cuz it was full clear test

[hollow gust]

Most people don't know there are notes on weapons

[muted ember]

a quick build cause ima go grind for gold twin 127mm

[remote yarrow]

That AA could be better

And don't grind maps for gear blueprints

[muted ember]

all of my AA could be better-

I mean I'm also grinding map for exp,need to be lvl 65 to play chap 9

[lament bay]

can i ask what to +13 next?

[remote yarrow]

Sure? Have you checked out #bot-spam /plus13 tho

[lament bay]

yeah but im kinda lost since i leveled already some of the suggested ones

[remote yarrow]

Aight

[gaunt dagger]

For the good cv, does enterprise count?

[muted ember]

man,I am cursed on my T5 loot boxes,keep getting ship maintenance

[lament bay]

i have this at +13, should i do 3rd champagne or tenrai or HPFCR?

[remote yarrow]

explain?

[muted ember]

this reminds me that I need to upgrade my fire control-

[gaunt dagger]

It says get independence if no good cv

[remote yarrow]

Independence is still a good CV regardless if you have Enterprise

[gaunt dagger]

Also for the cat guide it says get the ones that fit my load out but what if I don’t have a specialized load out like focused on torps

[remote yarrow]

Though she needs retro

[gaunt dagger]

Is retro just getting the whole retrofitting tree btw?

[plain saffron]

All of them yes

[gaunt dagger]

Mk

[cobalt rapids]

they dont fight for plates and unless u mean blanks but u shouldnt convert blanks to aux plates
u want all 3 eventually but conv tb and rocket planes have higher prio over tenrai

[muted ember]

I meant it when I said all of my AA could be better

god I need more AA

[cobalt rapids]

and upgrade gear to +13 one at a time

[lament bay]

yeah i didnt know so have some random +11

[cobalt rapids]

ig u got musashi actually so u could skip 3rd champy

[lament bay]

should i do new vit2 or ryusei for converging?

[muted ember]

anyways one more question,I'm close to hiting 400,which one should I get? I already have Shinano

[cobalt rapids]

ideally u plan ur cv fleet load out ahead

but i wouldnt do vit2s

yet

[lament bay]

so ryusei or just keep plane plates?

[cobalt rapids]

having 2 of each saiun, ju and ryuu is usually good but start with the ones ure actually using or better yet ull plan to use

[polar lion]

Which one is rice thread? Ther too many threads

[lament bay]

yeah i think ill start with upgrading my usual shinano/haku setup; maybe doing hvar cat later

[jaunty vault]

in the ecgc discord server

[jaunty vault]

.

[muted ember]

which one is better? Shimi or Jersey?

[polar lion]

Share server link pls

[plain saffron]

Can't do that here. Go to sam site then find the link

[remote yarrow]

Go to any of sam's guides and on the top right corner there's a discord icon

[rapid grail]

ECGC site for link to doscord

[rain bobcat]

jersey unless you have multiple UR bb

[plain saffron]

Sharing dc server link in ALO is not allowed

[polar lion]

Oh okay

[muted ember]

the only UR I own is Shinano

[rain bobcat]

jersey then

[remote yarrow]

Is she MLB? if not get more copies

[muted ember]

yes she is

[inland shoal]

~~Time to report all of #1246721562741178410 ~~

[rain bobcat]

probably would not want to wait 400 wishes just to get NJ again by wasting it with mlb

in the time you need to mlb both of them ur not even 200 wishes in the pool

[remote yarrow]

flip a coin, NJ is powercrept by most UR BBs and vanguard ships (Shima) are lower prio than main ships for UR Bulins

[rain bobcat]

Why always say powercreep

[remote yarrow]

Cuz she is

[plain saffron]

Because she is powercrept

[rain bobcat]

he has 0 other UR and NJ is not dogshit like people make it seem

[remote yarrow]

But there's higher priorities forr URs in the game

[plain saffron]

Powercreep doesn't mena she's shit now

[rain bobcat]

powercreep does not mean holy shit getting her is useless

[remote yarrow]

One of them may be coming in 2 weeks

[iron meteor]

oh so do i build vanguard first before nj?

[plain saffron]

It means there better ship

[inland shoal]

The point is that UR bulins are limited so you kinda want to use them on new shiny tools and not NJ

[muted ember]

oh yea right out of the 4 of these,who should I go for? I already got Hood and Enterprise

[grizzled sundial]

Sandy

[remote yarrow]

Depends on who you are missing Sandy

[finite crag]

same reason why getting shinano dupes is good btw

[remote yarrow]

oh EN, Sandy

[plain saffron]

for people who doesn't have any UR
both shinano and NJ is top tier to them
but shinano is still the top while NJ isn't. plus newer BB/CV will release over time, and there's also fdg for permanent BB choice

[grizzled sundial]

Currently Illustrious is in the Medal shop , assuming you have 80 medals to spare

[plain saffron]

like both are good, but one is top top, one is powercrept
the choice is obvious

[rain bobcat]

theres 3 urin this month almost enough for the new UR its not that bad and man will not have 3 UR bb until atleast 8 months later

[muted ember]

Sandy? gotcha

[muted ember]

and for BB I got a built Nagato with a semi finished built Hood

[plain saffron]

but we don't know what dev have for us

nobody saying NJ is shit, but shinano is a better choice from pity
if you get NJ from other means then go on and use her

if you can LB them anyway

[muted ember]

I already got a LMB Shinano

[inland shoal]

As always it depends on how many bulins they can afford
If they have easily enough for several URs sure MLB NJ, if not I'd rather wait a little, especially with reruns in the mix

[plain saffron]

with double UR and reruns we need more bulins income

[inland shoal]

But yeah if you have max Shinano I'd probably get NJ

[grizzled sundial]

The pain of 1 UR bulin per month...

[plain saffron]

more than that actually

[muted ember]

I know faction skills are traps but why not Shimi?

[remote yarrow]

Well there's a way better UR BB supposedly rerunning this year, so why set yourself back 2/3 months by using Bulins on NJ when you could just save for Musashi?

[plain saffron]

even from spec core drop alone it's 1.25 per month

[inland shoal]

Special core is 1.5

[plain saffron]

plus 0.25 from medal shop

[inland shoal]

(If you buy the extra 1k)

[plain saffron]

they should add URin in pity selector

[remote yarrow]

True

[finite crag]

based take holy

[remote yarrow]

Make that a suggestion NOW

[grizzled sundial]

Anyone here still keep theirs first UR bulin ?

[finite crag]

no

[remote yarrow]

no

[muted ember]

honestly,my main ships are fine it's just my vanguards that are kinda lacking(Indy I love you but god are you not good qwq)

[inner delta]

[plain saffron]

Done, waiting for someone to disagree with it

[remote yarrow]

Like I said before, flip a coin, you are still not gonna MLB them any time soon since they are low prio for UR Bulin usage

[plain saffron]

Who's shimi

[remote yarrow]

Shimakaze

[muted ember]

Shimikaze

I always thought it was Shimi not Shima-(is this dyslexia?)

[plain saffron]

Ouh. Wait she have faction skill?

[muted ember]

no it's Nagato and Shinano

[plain saffron]

I guess the answer is she's just already good, faction buff is a bonus

[remote yarrow]

~~I think you need to !submit it in #bot-spam ~~

[plain saffron]

Give me a while

[rain bobcat]

if you play wows you might have confused it with shikishima or something

[muted ember]

the only "World" game I've played is WoT

[remote yarrow]

That's kinda bait

If you are gonna use them only to buff Shimakaze ofc

I've mainly seen ppl use Nagato's buff for one shot strategies that use HakuNano and Nagato for high scoring in some events

[muted ember]

I already run a mostly JP ship fleet

although using Shouhou retro as the 3rd ship cause don't got anything better rn

[inland shoal]

FP buff for Shima poggies
Though Shima does want 3 IJN

Uh Nano not Shima

[inner delta]

truly acc cope

[inland shoal]

Uni >> Shouhou

[remote yarrow]

I guess ppl already told you that Faction fleets are unoptimal and a self imposed handicap right?

[muted ember]

yep,well you did

but I run a mostly JP ship cause I like em

[cobalt rapids]

use good ships to activate nano, dont shoehorn bad ships better leave her unactivated then

[muted ember]

well for main fleet ship I uhhhh,lemme take a look at what I have actually

[remote yarrow]

Just leave Nano unactivaded, Unicorn is a way better option than Shouhou by far

[muted ember]

this is what I got

ignore the not LMB Tico I'm working on it

[remote yarrow]

You are using 2 healers on 2 different fleets

[muted ember]

yes :p

[nova lichen]

Yo uh which is better? Saratoga Retrofit or Enty?

[plain saffron]

Enty

[jaunty vault]

depends

[muted ember]

actually how good is Zuiho

[remote yarrow]

Well that's not good, I suggest you stop spreading out your resources on 2 fleets cuz like you said before you are not even in W9 yet

[finite crag]

good secondary healer good tech and most importantly completely free

[nova lichen]

Like I'm just wondering cause my Saratoga Retrofit is level 94 with Enty being level 119 and it says Sara is stronger?

This is also with her unique augment.

[remote yarrow]

stronger where? and how

[nova lichen]

Lemme grab a pic.

[sweet delta]

Power I'd wager

[remote yarrow]

She's better than Enty in mob

[plain saffron]

Power is useless metric

[remote yarrow]

Yeah you guys were right

[plain saffron]

Well it's just total stats, doesn't say if she's stronger or not

Skills also a factor

And loadout, efficiency etc

[muted ember]

how about this only reason why Portland is there is due to me needing her to be at lvl 100

[remote yarrow]

What's wrong with that?

[inland shoal]

Long story short power is completely useless and should never be used for evaluating anything

[finite crag]

if youre wondering about power thats just a silly little number which only use is to mislead people

[nova lichen]

h u h .

[plain saffron]

Its only purpose is for leaderboard flex

[tired prairie]

you should change that saratoga's aux

[nova lichen]

To what?

[remote yarrow]

double steam catapult

[plain saffron]

Catapult or aviation something

[nova lichen]

K.

[inland shoal]

Anything with avi
More avi = more good

[muted ember]

idk- I think Portland's decent but I do kinda want to try out London Retro cause I literally just got her today

[nova lichen]

Better?

[plain saffron]

London is less tankier than Portland

Port will be your tank until you get a better tank, either from event or getting anchorage

[muted ember]

Nano build good?

[remote yarrow]

pretty decent

[reef flume]

Me who never used her

[finite crag]

do you want a cookie?

[plain saffron]

Can i get one

[muted ember]

:D

[inland shoal]

Yup might want to enhance that to +6 or sth ig

[muted ember]

I did kinda scew her reload so she goes a little bit after Shouhou

cause retro gives buffs to AV that goes after her

[nova lichen]

Yo question how good is Eldridge once retrofitted? Asking cuz I am trying to do that just with struggles from no proto bulins.

[remote yarrow]

give this a read

[timid moon]

tankiest mf ever

[remote yarrow]

There's no need to use Shouhou in a world where Unicorn exists if the whole purpose of you using her is activating Nano

[tame jungle]

eldridge retro arguably the best vanguard survival support we have rn

[remote yarrow]

Me when I lie

[nova lichen]

Soooo, I'm currently seeing limitations begin to show on Hipper, what CA do I level up to replace em

[remote yarrow]

Roon or Portland

[muted ember]

I mean she also buffs Nano but ok >~>

[tame jungle]

doesn't matter shouhou is shit

[nova lichen]

I mean, Roon is already maxed out in research.

[inland shoal]

I would say Eldridge retro is bad for a newbie

[muted ember]

I mostly used Shouhou because of this part

[remote yarrow]

So? You asked who to level up and both of those are better than Hipper

[finite crag]

yes but shouhou herself is awful

[tame jungle]

that 15% avi buff damage boost can be offset by using an actual ship

[nova lichen]

Aight.

[muted ember]

actually ima do my coin flip for the free UR now,welp the wheel has spoken

[inland shoal]

So I just wouldn't
I wouldn't MLB her either
She's very expensive and what she dies is mostly important in late game

[tame jungle]

is your shinano mlb

[remote yarrow]

Congratz on your minus 1 dock for a really long time

[tame jungle]

oh good to know that your nanos are also mlb smootie and thorin

[remote yarrow]

ty for asking

[muted ember]

I got my Nano MLB'd like 2 days ago

[remote yarrow]

Now save your next 4 Bulins for a good UR

Maybe the UR coming in 2 weeks or Musashi rerun

[muted ember]

also any other BB that's worth it in medal shop?

[remote yarrow]

Besides Hood, the others are mostly for tech

[muted ember]

I already got Nagato and Hood

[remote yarrow]

You can get Bismarck or Tirpitz for tech points towards unlocking FdG later

[muted ember]

rightttt

tho I was thinking about getting Tirpitz for collection(and flexing to my friend who's a Tirpitz simp)

[remote yarrow]

Go ahead

[muted ember]

I was thinking about doing Roon and just giving Z23 a ton of passive exp gain(so I can use her in actually combat) but then I remembered that besides Z23,I got no other german vanguards

[remote yarrow]

What does Z23 have to do with Roon passive exp from dorm doesn't add up to Combat Data Collection mission

also before you ask, don't use these to rush the CDC mission

[muted ember]

well plan was to give Z23 alot of passive xp so she's lvl'd enough to not die in one hit against story mode enemies-

[muted ember]

A- well I do have some of em stored up

[remote yarrow]

Always analyze them for Prototype Core

Using them is a waste

[timid moon]

or use them because you are playing a game and want early access to other ship content

[muted ember]

speaking of which,uhhhh is the Izumo bad meme a telling how bad Izumo is or just a comedic meme

[timid moon]

more efficient if you don't use them tho

[remote yarrow]

And set yourself back a few months of protocore by doing that instead of just grinding

[tame jungle]

don't grief other players bruh

[remote yarrow]

If you are gonna give bad advice just don't

[tame jungle]

protocore is fasttrack to actual good gear so don't tell ppl to use that shit on something you can do in a week later on

[remote yarrow]

After she got her augment she's pretty decent

[muted ember]

speaking of this,what should I focus on the prototype core shop

I got this much

[remote yarrow]

Season 3 Blueprints and use them to get Champy Gun, 406/50

920 protocore

[muted ember]

these?

[remote yarrow]

[muted ember]

alot more coming

and these are only the Series 1 proto core

[remote yarrow]

Those are the right ones, but make sure the ones you buy later are Series 3 too

[muted ember]

I still got 4 more that I haven't unlocked

[finite crag]

and use that to get this

[remote yarrow]

You'll get 20 blueprints and you need 25 blueprints to make one of those guns

And we recommend getting 3 guns so 4 months in total

[muted ember]

which one's Champy gun?

[tame jungle]

refer to this

[finite crag]

this one

[remote yarrow]

last one, like the image above

[muted ember]

oh got it

[muted ember]

good thing I haven't unlocked all of the other series yet

[remote yarrow]

Hmm?

[tame jungle]

i think they mean the other series rookie pr missions

[remote yarrow]

Yeah I know but how does that relate to getting 3 Champy guns

[tame jungle]

extra protocore?

[timid moon]

more protocores

[muted ember]

I'm pretty sure each series gives protocores

[remote yarrow]

oh that's what you meant

[vernal osprey]

Unicorn or Perseus, which does more heal?

[muted ember]

beside analynizing what other way do I get them

[crimson glacier]

unicorn is just all around better ship

[remote yarrow]

By analyzing leftover blueprints from DR/PR ships after they reach Dev 30

[finite crag]

turning in excess pr prints for ships youve already completed

[vernal osprey]

Alright, thx

[muted ember]

got it

[finite crag]

much less accessible than combat data packs

[muted ember]

how about these? these good?

[finite crag]

yea id say theyre pretty good

[remote yarrow]

really good

It will take you a couple months to get one once you start focusing research (better done on W12 to keep up with coin usage)

And you can get another one from Protocore

Most people have 2 Tenrais, they 50BPs from research and 50BPs from protocore

[muted ember]

I definitely don't have enough to buy 49 of em from protocore

[jaunty vault]

most newbies dont

[muted ember]

just to know,once I get a champy gun,who do I put em on

[jaunty vault]

any BB/BC

[muted ember]

Nagato go!

[remote yarrow]

Tho It depends on what you are fighting, Champy gun is better against med/heavy armored enemies

[muted ember]

I still have no idea which enemies are which,I haven't memorized it

[remote yarrow]

Outside of that just use 406mk6

[muted ember]

I use 410mm

[remote yarrow]

It's decent

[jaunty vault]

which one

[timid moon]

indicators on the left of boss hp bar

[shut kernel]

for damage its better to use triple guns

[muted ember]

mostly cause the slaimuda website says it's good for ships that has hit skill proc

[remote yarrow]

Champy gun is mostly used against bosses rather than campaign, though there's some exceptions

[jaunty vault]

twin410mm purple

[timid moon]

I have more than enough bulins for the next UR, should I even bother with this girl

[tame jungle]

how many

[timid moon]

i don't have any torpedo ships

[timid moon]

8 bulins soon

[shut kernel]

I havent read her kit yet lmao but shes lvl121 on my acc

[jaunty vault]

unzen is like top3 vanguard DPS and she can also tank somewhat

[timid moon]

I'm curious, who is the top 1&2?

[muted ember]

here's my Nagato build

[shut kernel]

shes UR shes probably good if youre lacking beefy vanguards

[jaunty vault]

hindenburg is definitely there

[steady beacon]

Who's the third, cooper (turtle)?

[jaunty vault]

idk about third

[shut kernel]

+10 the gears if you can afford to

[jaunty vault]

[muted ember]

not enough parts qwq

atleast for Aux

[shut kernel]

its correct, I think you may or may not benefit more on using black shells tho

[muted ember]

ok gave Nagato 406mmMk6

[muted ember]

I only got white shel- actually I can buy black shells

[finite crag]

you want multiple set of white and black but to use alongside hsfcr or table its mostly white

but youd still want them both

[shut kernel]

nagato is a buffer so her gear doesnt matter much you should focus more on the other main ships

you need 3 white 3 black shells minimum

[muted ember]

I'll buy a black and work my way up to get another black cause I can only buy one for now

any help with picking research or just pick which ever

[shut kernel]

never pick B. dont pick C. E are fine if youre not that lazy. I recommend dont do H you need to save coobs

just pick Qs, Ds and Gs

[muted ember]

noted

my poor coobs

[tired prairie]

are you focusing pr1?

[timid moon]

always pick blue unless

[tame jungle]

don't do cube comms if you're under 400 cubes at the very least, exception being the 30 min cube ones

and that exception only really applies if you know you're gonna be safe by the time a new UR rolls around

[shut kernel]

PR4 if you want a Tenrai(dive bomber), and AP rockets(best medium armor fighter)

PR2 for 457mm BB gun

[remote yarrow]

Also get out of PR1 Focus and focus PR4 asap

[remote yarrow]

Why focus PR2 if you can just craft the gun and get another one from Protocore

[shut kernel]

oh yea I'm a boomer wth

its expensive asf tho

[remote yarrow]

It's better than being stuck in PR2 for 2~3 months getting bad gear

[muted ember]

who do I focus on for PR4 aaaaaa

[shut kernel]

mostly for Carrier gears

[remote yarrow]

Focus is one thing, what you are talking about is catchup
Focus in on the top of the Research Tab, which should be in Season IV, and your catchup on FdG or Anchorage

[shut kernel]

every OP ships are also in PR4

[tame jungle]

essentially you'll want all the pr4 ships except marco

[muted ember]

ohhhhh

[shut kernel]

marco great tho

[tame jungle]

stop inting gph advice

[muted ember]

got it

[shut kernel]

shes good for cross barrages in opsi

[plain saffron]

But marco is good

[muted ember]

actually yeah,triple gun's better with Nagato cause her skill already nukes everything

now to think,white or black shell

[shut kernel]

but I get you'll benefit more on the other PR4 ships

[crimson glacier]

cross barrage? lmao

[plain saffron]

At that point might as well finish marco

[remote yarrow]

Marco was great when there wasn't atleast 9 UR BBs to choose from

[strong tartan]

hi giys

[tame jungle]

finish marco to guarantee DR face to show up

[remote yarrow]

Which some of them also have a better crossfleet than her

[gusty olive]

Is having 3 Georgia gun alright?

[plain saffron]

Shinano crossfleet

[remote yarrow]

I haven't seen many ppl prefer it over Champy gun for stuff outside of mobbing, but I think the #pvp guys like it better

[shut kernel]

I dont like using helena so I kinda prefer it

[remote yarrow]

[strong tartan]

That's cool

[muted ember]

you mean this?

[remote yarrow]

Yes, that's correct

[muted ember]

👍

[remote yarrow]

Now put your catchup either on FdG or Anchorage

[gusty olive]

I have 3 of those and all slapped on my META ships kekw

[fathom relic]

Is it worth to continue grinding for Zuihou after getting her on daily roll? (im at 8k6 point btw)

[finite crag]

daily rolling special pool?

[muted ember]

done

[remote yarrow]

It's not a bad gun, but it has lower shell and can't sync with Helena iirc

[tame jungle]

don't daily roll special but sure free bulin, not like you're far away from it anyway

[shut kernel]

FdG was never useful for me in my experience

[tame jungle]

ok

[strong tartan]

That's so cool

[finite crag]

wow!

[fathom relic]

Yea i know it should be light, but yea sitting at 800 cube that's why.
Anyway tks for advice

[crimson glacier]

ah yes mr "marco is great, fdg never useful"

[strong tartan]

who needs fdg when you have marco? ohoho

[shut kernel]

marco might be better than fdg tbh

[crimson glacier]

how about you just shut up before you get help banned

[gusty olive]

I use Helena with the UR BB's, I just use the georgia gun just so I can sneak more shots when using the fleet that have it (when Harbiter Strength)

[muted ember]

besides the Bismarck sisters what other serviceable German Main ships can I get to grind FdG?

[wind hazel]

schronafoahdahorst and gneisaueueuea

idk the spelling. they are BC

[strong tartan]

the ones with the purple hair

[timid moon]

i will try to decipher
scharnhorst, gneisnau

[wind hazel]

close enough

[strong tartan]

Gneisenau

[wind hazel]

nerd

[strong tartan]

🐎

[muted ember]

Felix?

[plain saffron]

Gnei

[tame jungle]

that is not scharnhorst or gneisenau

[strong tartan]

Scharnhorst and Gneisenau

[muted ember]

no I'm trying to find the german main ship with purple hair

[strong tartan]

I literally just said their names

[tame jungle]

scharnhorst and gneisenau

[plain saffron]

scharnhorst and gneisenau

[strong tartan]

scharnhorst and gneisenau

[remote yarrow]

sharn and gnei

[wind hazel]

schronafoahdahorst and gneisaueueuea

[muted ember]

eh,they're light purple yea idk why I didn't see that-

[muted ember]

I'm gonna call em that from now on

this reminds me that I need to do War Archives

[plain saffron]

Does thuringen counts

[strong tartan]

Bb speed ❤️

[willow crag]

Just have to clarify that the next UR rerun is Bisko Zwei

[plain saffron]

It's so they can stay still faster

[forest jasper]

she grey hair tho

[strong tartan]

No it's Musashi

[willow crag]

Oh ok misremembered, time to pick her up

[shut kernel]

who th is alvltr she hot

[strong tartan]

Me, I am alvitr

[muted ember]

the only one I got in that list is Tirpitz(I think I gotta check my Iron Blood ships)

[plain saffron]

Hi altivir

[rose cosmos]

What are the best maps to grind exp for super low level ships btw? They keep dying midway in 13-4 😓

[muted ember]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[plain saffron]

12-1 exp pack until 100 ish

[jaunty vault]

12-1

[rose cosmos]

Is 12-1 better than 12-4?

[jaunty vault]

for exp, yes

[shut kernel]

12-4 for coins

[plain saffron]

And it's easier

[jaunty vault]

and it's easier

[muted ember]

to clarify,Sandy right?

[tame jungle]

do you have enty and hood

[jaunty vault]

hood, or enty

[remote yarrow]

They already have them both

[tame jungle]

ok yes then sandy for sure

[shut kernel]

Choose whos hot/cute

[strong tartan]

Can you get out

[remote yarrow]

Can you stop?

[muted ember]

now to clarify,she good pre retro?

[crimson glacier]

no

[remote yarrow]

decent with augment

But her power comes from her retro which is pretty expensive

So just hold off for now

[muted ember]

👍

[shut kernel]

who do u even have to prioritize to SR-UR retro?

[muted ember]

is there any other SR that has Retro besides Sandy?

[strong tartan]

Warspite, Eldridge, Yuudachi

[shut kernel]

yuudachi, warspite and eldridge

[muted ember]

yikes that's rough- yeah I gotta do war Archives

[plain saffron]

Probably yuudachi because she's the only one with elite to sr cost

[muted ember]

welp,time to put Sandy and Tirpitz in the passive XP chamber known as my dorm

[remote yarrow]

Unicorn,Portland,Starter DD, Nelson (if no good BBs early on), Saratoga, Independence

[crisp estuary]

[remote yarrow]

After that it comes to necessity for content

[shut kernel]

I mean the UR retros

[remote yarrow]

Mainly Sandy

[muted ember]

right thanks for reminding me that Sara exist

[strong tartan]

sa ra to ga

[plain saffron]

Sarat0ga

[muted ember]

what lvl do I need Sandy to be in for to full retro her? 95 like other ships?

[jaunty vault]

and max lb, yes

[half plover]

so I got u96 from the medal shop and it says this ships buff other kms, right? so do I want to use a fleet full of ironblood submarines like U96, U110 and U-556 or U-557? these are my only ironblood subs

[jaunty vault]

yes

[muted ember]

actually speaking of that,does Sub count as vanguard or their own thing?

[strong tartan]

Own thing

[plain saffron]

Subs is separate fleet

[tame jungle]

subs are their own thing

[muted ember]

got it

[plain saffron]

Only ryuuhou and zuihou can interact with subs fleet afaik

[remote yarrow]

Keep in mind she's really expensive to retro, (about 60k+ 3 Bulins and mats) and you probably won't need her until W13 or even W15

[strong tartan]

Nurnberg increases sub exp gain

[remote yarrow]

+20k for her augment

[tame jungle]

you're also not missing out on much if you're not using subs, at least not early on

[shut kernel]

sub exp is very hard to grind lmao youll be better off dumping every exp pack u have

[muted ember]

I don't have alot of german ships ;~;
also these are good for exp gain right?

[plain saffron]

Just use them

[half plover]

if I autocall subs will the oil cost per fight increase?

[crimson glacier]

yes subs cost oil to call

[plain saffron]

If you use subs you use more oils

[plain saffron]

Not really

[jaunty vault]

better to just grind in oil cap

[remote yarrow]

it's better to just grind

[half plover]

so exp packing subs might be a smart way to save oil

[muted ember]

oil cap?

[remote yarrow]

I just throw them into dorm

[crimson glacier]

or just dorm them since you need them so rarely

[jaunty vault]

you forget exp packs are a more limited resource than oil

[half plover]

oh yeah

[plain saffron]

But you can say the same with other ship

[remote yarrow]

It will only take a few months from 0 to 120

[jaunty vault]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[plain saffron]

Other ship also use oils

[half plover]

what do you mean

[strong tartan]

Other ship also use oils

[plain saffron]

Subs use oil, main fleet use oil, vanguard use oils

[half plover]

yeah but oil cap

[plain saffron]

Subs have oil cap

[crimson glacier]

so what? its still mroe cost

[half plover]

yeah but if subs still take like 20 oil per fight or so

[plain saffron]

And you also get exp?

[half plover]

idk the cap for subs

[plain saffron]

More oil used more exp. What's the difference

[half plover]

opsi exp is free

[muted ember]

noted

[half plover]

I grinded 1million exp in opsi without oil yesterday

[crimson glacier]

difference is that you dont need subs almost ever

[plain saffron]

The problem with lvl subs is it's annoying because they don't always in range

[wind hazel]

just exp book your sub or dorm them really

[crimson glacier]

so why use oil for their exp

[plain saffron]

Yeah it's easier to exp pack them or dorm

[jaunty vault]

you don't need most ships in the game, why level them

[plain saffron]

But the oils is not "wasted" you spend more oil and get more exp

[crimson glacier]

it is wasted tho

[remote yarrow]

you guys are talking so much about oil the US is gonna invade us

[plain saffron]

It sounds like spending oil on them is a waste and you don't get anything

[half plover]

if u run stages that aren't efficient to level in the first place it is

[crimson glacier]

more ships in battle means less ships in the fleet will get mvp

[half plover]

for example the zuihao event stages, you don't grind them so u level ur ships

[plain saffron]

But that's also the same with vg and main fleet?

[crimson glacier]

no? did you fail at math

[shut kernel]

subs are for late game anyways

[plain saffron]

[wind hazel]

wtf are you guys even arguing about at this point

[crimson glacier]

which one is bigger number 1/6 or 1/9

[shut kernel]

1/10

[plain saffron]

You spend more oils and gets exp for three more ships

[half plover]

if u do high exp stages like campaign 12-1 it is good yes

but if you farm any other stages not efficient for exp nah

[muted ember]

is this worth it>

[crimson glacier]

wasnt it just nice back in the day when nagami was just nagami instead of this weird ass roleplayer

[wind hazel]

yes

[shut kernel]

yea kinda but the other one where houshou is in is more useful

[wind hazel]

nah actually i agree with nagami

you're trading oil for exp. that's how the game works

[plain saffron]

Yes but that's also same for vg and main fleet. And who farmed stage bad for farming anyway

[crimson glacier]

not all exp is equal

but oil is oil

[wind hazel]

no shit. mainline exp is the best

[half plover]

but if you run stages you are forced to use vanguard and main fleet

[plain saffron]

Yeah like you guys make it sounds like using subs cost more oils and gets nothing in return

[half plover]

you can't just farm stages without a ship at all, that's not how it works

[crimson glacier]

thats exactly what it is for 99% of the game

[plain saffron]

When they're same as vg and main fleet. Use oils get exp

[wind hazel]

oil is only wasted if you grind at non oil cap maps

[tame jungle]

it's more like it's a drag to farm for sub xp using oil

[crimson glacier]

its not the same at all, try clearing a map without main fleet or vanguard

[plain saffron]

[wind hazel]

wtf are you even saying now

[half plover]

if I farm for 12k event points it would make a difference to farm with 70 oil per fight or 50

[shut kernel]

just forget subs theyre rarely needed and just dump every exp pack until they reach lv125

[strong tartan]

You guys have been on this topic for like 10 minutes

[vernal edge]

Point woudlve been valid if there would be no oil cap

[crimson glacier]

how does oil cap matter for this

[plain saffron]

Event stage is not a good place to farm exp for vg, main, or subs

[muted ember]

which one is that?

[wind hazel]

how does it not?

[plain saffron]

So not a sub problem

[muted ember]

oh found it

[crimson glacier]

subs cost more oil, oil cap or no

[half plover]

using subs is only good for farming exp, everywhere else running subs for extra cost is a waste, that's the point

[plain saffron]

Who uses subs for fun when farming exp

[crimson glacier]

except that sub oilcap is much much worse than normal fleets

[wind hazel]

yeah no shit using subs cost more oil. but you're spending those oil for subs exp in the first place, so tell me how is that a waste??

[plain saffron]

What is even your point

[muted ember]

also which one is better to prioritize leveing up?

[wind hazel]

he has no point

[half plover]

if u don't want to level subs why autocall

[wind hazel]

if you dont wanna level sub via sortieing, you don't include subs

[plain saffron]

Don't use them if you're not levelling them??

[vernal edge]

Whatever you are lacking rn

[timid moon]

oil

[crimson glacier]

okay, lets say the guy needs subs in, 5-6 months

[shut kernel]

the average player's oil is always full whats the point of saving oil at this point

[plain saffron]

Just dorm them

[muted ember]

uhhhh,Oil definitely-

[crimson glacier]

why use oil leveling them when you can get them maxed without any oil

[half plover]

I am not talking about efficient exp stages where it makes sense to autocall subs for exp because you want sub exp, just everywhere else. that's been my point the whole time

[wind hazel]

ask him, not us

[plain saffron]

If you need subs later just dorm them. I'm not saying that using them in fight is a better way

[crimson glacier]

well you are the ppl pushing for him to use oil

[plain saffron]

That's not the point. It's that it sounds like using subs is using more oil and gets nothing*

[wind hazel]

no, nagami and i are saying oil spent if you summon subs, are not wasted oil

[crimson glacier]

when subs use much more oil than normal fleets do with oil cap

[muted ember]

and also what's the max lvl for the resource generating buildings?

[tame jungle]

12

[shut kernel]

why wouldnt you use oil? you get thousands of oil per day

[wind hazel]

you are the only one saying it's wasted oil

[plain saffron]

The point is
USE MORE OILS, GET MORE EXP

[muted ember]

got it thanks

[crimson glacier]

yeah it is wasted oil

[wind hazel]

and that's where you're wrong

[plain saffron]

IF DON'T WANT EXP JUST DON'T USE THEM

[crimson glacier]

subs have worse oil cap and less ships in the fleet get mvp

[half plover]

a friend didn't get 55k event points last event bc he ran out of oil as a new player but he auto called subs all the time

[wind hazel]

if your subs are getting mvp you're doing something wrong

[crimson glacier]

thats irrelevant

[half plover]

from that perspective on it was inefficient oil usage

[plain saffron]

Because they use subs in a stage with bad exp

[wind hazel]

then how does summoning subs is gonna affect mvp? are you stupid

[crimson glacier]

1/6 is more than 1/9

[plain saffron]

You can say the same for ANY SHIPS NOT JUST SUBS

[half plover]

yeah maybe wasted oil is not the right term, inefficient is better

[vernal edge]

Subs can earn MVP?

[crimson glacier]

subs get mvp easily when they are good

[shut kernel]

if mvp is your main concern then manually call then when its about to end?

[plain saffron]

Why are you saying like total exp is divided to all ships

[wind hazel]

that's on him lol. and also entirely different from what we are discussing

[half plover]

but you are forced to use ships to run stages, you are not forced to run subs. if not good enough to low cost already

[shut kernel]

or not put any torps to them

[crimson glacier]

and you weirdos are the ones thinking that subs getting mvp is bad

[wind hazel]

nobody has said that

[timid moon]

are you guys really fighting for something relevant

[crimson glacier]

yeah sure buddy

[wind hazel]

why are you making strawman argument here

[strong tartan]

This topic is 15 minutes old

??

[crimson glacier]

what can i say, you ppl say some weird, shit, i respond, and then you act like its weirdest thing ever

[timid moon]

they gotta pass time somehow right?

[shut kernel]

lets just talk about why queen elizabeth hasnt got her retro/QE II yet

[crimson glacier]

go to general

[wind hazel]

fact is you said something factually wrong, that's the end

[strong tartan]

Cause nobody here cares about her, next

[crimson glacier]

where did i say that

[wind hazel]

im tired, move on. not interested in talking to a wall

[shut kernel]

Okay then why Nagato isnt a UR?

[crimson glacier]

what a suprise, almost like the factually wrong part was just your opinion

[plain saffron]

Just give up you'll never win against him

[crimson glacier]

well yeah, when you are wrong about something its hard to win makes sense

[plain saffron]

Am i

[shut kernel]

are u?

[strong tartan]

Can you guys just let the topic go the guy who asked it left like 3 minutes ago

[plain saffron]

Who decided I'm wrong

[strong tartan]

I'm pretty sure he got his answer a millennia ago

[cobalt rapids]

i dont see how thats related to their argument

[jaunty vault]

[wind hazel]

in the end you'd still want to raise their affinity to at least 100 anyway

[plain saffron]

I'm just saying using more oils get more exp but somehow now I'm a bad roleplayer and wrong

[wind hazel]

oil wasted

[jaunty vault]

typical modless gph

[crimson glacier]

just look at these numbers

[cobalt rapids]

oil is not wasted because u can only get affinity for subs in sorties

[wind hazel]

oh no torva gonna say you're wrong

[crimson glacier]

17 oil cap is fucking awful compared to normal oil cap

[shut kernel]

thats literally a penny

[crimson glacier]

and that matters how?

do you know whats the most expensive sub fleet you can make?

[plain saffron]

Gph can self moderate they said

[crimson glacier]

patting yourselves on the back doesnt make you right

[plain saffron]

Who said i did

[wind hazel]

i did. you are right

[shut kernel]

I have 25k oil I surely care about extra 17 oil cost for subs

[exotic wren]

Peace be with gph

[plain saffron]

Apparently It's only wrong if it's me 😊

[jaunty vault]

this argument is going nowhere

[plain saffron]

Wtf is that emote that's creepy

[strong tartan]

😊

[shell willow]

you are just lazy

[wind hazel]

wtf he's still here

[wind hazel]

liar

[strong tartan]

What if I chase you

[tame jungle]

romantic

[jaunty vault]

whys he deleting his messages

[wind hazel]

to make us sound crazy

[jaunty vault]

cringe 😬

[plain saffron]

Hi

[half plover]

hi

[strong tartan]

wtf nagami who are you saying hi to

[jaunty vault]

roleplaying is against rules, ban pls
oh wait, no mods to ban

[plain saffron]

[remote yarrow]

[vernal edge]

What was 10-1 boss gimmick again? Wasnt pain train in 10-2?

[crimson glacier]

no it was 1

[remote yarrow]

Burning your flag

iirc

[jaunty vault]

whats pain train

[vernal edge]

5 or 6 suicide boats

[frank pulsar]

the suicide boat train

[errant ivy]

hello! how do i get a second floor in the dorm?

[jaunty vault]

spend 500 gems

[crimson glacier]

gotta have max expansion on 1st floor first

[cobalt rapids]

click the construction worker sign till it disappears then u can buy it

[remote yarrow]

After you are done expanding your first floor with dorm coins

[errant ivy]

is it in the dorm shop?

[vernal edge]

Expand your first floor until you will be given option to buy second floor in dorm slots menu upper left

[shut kernel]

3 slots and a 2nd floor for f2p

[remote yarrow]

No, tap the construction site sign

[errant ivy]

IM IN thank you!!

[remote yarrow]

She's in

[vernal edge]

Did they nerfed ch10 or what? Like were levels lowered? Why is it so ez now, backline doesnt even burn

[plain saffron]

Who are you using

[shut kernel]

fdg probably its his pfp

[crimson glacier]

best ships at w10 release were like washington non augment hood

rudders didnt exist

max lvl was 100

danger level didnt exist so it was permanently on lethal

[vernal edge]

Only frontlane takes damage

[crimson glacier]

well your fleet is much better than what we had

and gear probably too

[vernal edge]

Wasnt it like 105? Or was it ch11 release

[crimson glacier]

i said 100 coz it was 100

retrofit shouhou was better back then than unicorn

and my man you are using lvl 123 uni retro

[vernal edge]

I remember clearing w10 with half kai Yamashiro, the days

[shut kernel]

you have alot of patience for farming to lv123 before reaching w10

[vernal edge]

I mean, its event after event, had no time to actually push further

[plain saffron]

Uni alone already carry that fleet

[errant ivy]

hello! im currently doing a war archive to farm iron blood points for fdg, do i just play any map or is hard maps better?

[vernal edge]

Hard maps have oil cap, no? Compared to B4

[half plover]

D maps usually do

[errant ivy]

i have zero clue! im pretty new to the game

[undone plover]

D4 is best

[errant ivy]

thank you! i'll see if i can get there! i dont have a second fleet yet

[vernal edge]

If you are struggling with hard mode then do normal maps B4, A4\C4 Divergent Crossboard

[undone plover]

Iirc DC is easy enough that u can probably one fleet it if your ships are good and over levelled
If not u can just start raising a second fleet

[vernal edge]

Its about reqs

[errant ivy]

my biggest issue! im slowly starting to get units though!

thank you so much for the help!!!

[vernal osprey]

What should be the ABSOLUTE minimum for a ship to do W14...bcuz my ships usually always end up on red some of the time

[crimson glacier]

level? 120

[vernal osprey]

Aight...makes sense why Jeanne keeps dying

[crimson glacier]

jeanne is also on the middle, right

[vernal osprey]

Yes, she's just 5 levels underleveled

[sharp socket]

w14 mobbing is easier if you attack the easier nodes, like dont go for 3* bb node on lethal

and also keep in mind ammo bonuses, 5/5 and 4/5 ammo give a +10% damage dealt

[vernal osprey]

How much do Flares help? Bcuz I experimented once without getting the Flares...boom...Mogador died after a few battles even tho Unicorn and Aquila was there

[vernal edge]

They dont really help

[vernal osprey]

Wait so Mogador suddenly sying was just sheer unluckiness?

[vernal edge]

Lethal shenanigans

[sharp socket]

dont pick up flares, only go for lighthouse

[vernal osprey]

W14-2 doesn't have any lighthouse, so yeah : D

[sharp socket]

also theres alot of rng in w14 so just be aware of that

i reset 35 times on 14-4 boss one time and another time did it in 3 resets

also if you’re dying to bad rng you can force close the game and reopen it, you can retry that fight as if you never entered it

[crimson glacier]

you dont need to close the game

just leave here and come back

[agile blade]

Should I switch & keep it on Bayard

[crimson glacier]

unless im missing something the left gun doesnt look that good

SAP usually just sucks

[vernal edge]

65\125\65 SAP vs 145\110\75 HE+ mod

Little bit more dps on medium armor, sucks otherwise

[gentle sequoia]

I've upgraded everything, but this red ping refuses to dissapear. Anyone with an idea why. Please help.

It's quite literally driving me insane!!

[crimson glacier]

if i had to guess the guild leader needs to setup a new research target but idk, im no guildmaster

[gentle sequoia]

Let me confirm a bit with my Guild master

[shut kernel]

is using Richelieu still good if I dont use any other iris/vichiya ships?

[jaunty vault]

yesnt

newer subs are good

[forest palm]

top sub fleets as of right now

• 96 + 81 + 37
• Archer + Flasher + Albacore
• LDV + M556 + 47
• LDV, 47, Homura, and Aqua can be used as flex pick

[crimson glacier]

there isnt big difference between the top sub fleets

so if you already have one leveled, i wouldnt bother with getting more unless you just simply want to

[shut kernel]

I-13 I-19 and archerfish could be good for damage? idk I havent tested it myself

[forest palm]

no IJN subs are shit