gameplay-help

[rapid grail]

next month has a UR event. roll for that instead

[glacial gull]

Fastest way you guys grind affinity ?

for vanguard sorry

[undone plover]

just grind
u can try mvp control but that is usually cursed

[glacial gull]

Ty

[undone plover]

and put them in secretary leftmost slot up to 90

[glacial gull]

86 atm so close yet so far

Dorsetshire thanks for teh advice man much appreciated

[rapid grail]

1:1 fleet @ 1-1 ambush strat, no clearing mode
place ships in 2nd floor of dorm for better morale gains
works for everyone except CVs and subs
strat for day 1 oathers during events, everything done manually

[glacial gull]

ty man 🫡

[rapid grail]

think the ones for CVs start at w2 in particular? it is fastest though

[teal sigil]

Is it a bit much if I asked what I missed…

[finite crag]

alot

[ebon oxide]

What are the fastest ways to get eagle union tech points?

[finite crag]

acquire and mlb eagle union ships

[stark quiver]

obtain > mlb > 120

[ebon oxide]

so it's a slow grind?

[stark quiver]

yea

[ebon oxide]

[uneven cave]

Keep scrolling back to the last event you played and you have your answer
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News

[ebon oxide]

i'm so impatient for anchorage

[blissful hamlet]

how op is eldrige first skill barrage?

[agile nacelle]

was the event good

[oak bone]

is there a map for the data packs you can collect in operation siren?

[sweet delta]

Ask #al-general or #al-lore

[agile nacelle]

k

[sweet delta]

/wiki zones

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Operation_Siren_Zones

[fervent sage]

what's the fastest way to earn tech points

[stark quiver]

[teal sigil]

Is 12-1 still an efficient oil/xp node or has things change since then?

[stark quiver]

its still very good and flexible

[fervent sage]

how much points are given for each

[stark quiver]

varies on ship

[fervent sage]

Also any guesses on what UR might be come the 12th

[late flame]

stay tuned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNE42EzfCE4

[stark quiver]

well its most likely gonna be ijn

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Tech_points

[fervent sage]

ofc it will be

[candid meteor]

i mean it is jp anni so it only makes sense

[blissful hamlet]

should eldrige retro use sextuple or normal AA gun?

[wet badge]

Should i use double or triple barrel guns on fdg

[stark quiver]

depends

[wet badge]

Wdym

[stark quiver]

depends on boss

[wet badge]

Aint she a mobber

[stark quiver]

well youll most likely be using 457 then

[finite crag]

shes still a ur bb so mobbing bossing she can do it all

just that with other ur bbs in play shes better suited to mobbing

[wet badge]

Ok

[glacial widget]

hey whats the best vanguard right now for a bb fleet?

ive been doing agir/helena/plymouth for awhile, havent updated it in forever

[stark quiver]

agir + helena + plymouth
swap ships depending on bosses

[glacial widget]

gotcha, so those 3 havent been powercrept yet

[stark quiver]

yea
not much reason to update anyways

[frank pulsar]

if you hate helena rng you can swap her out for hindenburg/unzen/tai yuan

but otherwise yea no improvements yet

[forest palm]

not like anything needs to change with current content as it is

[exotic wren]

Tai yuan can contend to those two?

[glacial widget]

tai yuan is good now?

[forest palm]

probably fun light which...

[frank pulsar]

tai yuan is still very strong on light, especially now mog gun exist

[glacial widget]

oh gotcha, havent tried her with mog gun

[forest palm]

you can brute force most things with AP in Ops either way

[frank pulsar]

idk tbh, im just listing options

[stark quiver]

on light yes

[exotic wren]

i still can't bruteforce light harby with AP, skill issue ig?

[frank pulsar]

it probably doable with max adapts and a lot of suffering but why

[wind hazel]

bruteforce with 4 fleet

[forest palm]

I said most, not all

also I'd probably still take Hinden, or Unzen for Light, less of a headache to worry about

[exotic wren]

Heck I sometimes get wiped out randomly on arby with 75 bars left

[forest palm]

good thing the rewards for Harbiter are garbage

[hollow gust]

~~now thats a skill issue ~~

[exotic wren]

Eh can't call myself a vet without clearing harby consistently

[glacial widget]

i havent cleared harbiter in ages, its not that big a deal lol

[forest palm]

Harbiter rewards are more for the vouchers than the mats

[hollow gust]

i would like my gold plates

[glacial widget]

take ur pick

[forest palm]

that's really nothing lol

[hollow gust]

cool u dont level ur gear

[forest palm]

like it's not even a flex, in fact it's a pitiful amount

[glacial widget]

nah i plus 13'd everything i needed to

[sharp socket]

1.8k gold torp

[hollow gust]

[forest palm]

store more gear on your ships

[humble iris]

Is juneau any good

[forest palm]

good AA post retro, and traditionally used in PvP

[candid meteor]

shes meta for pvp

[hollow gust]

i just cleaned all my good gear off my 120 shitters, it will eventually clear out

[humble iris]

Wb phoenix I see alot of ppl use her

[hollow gust]

poor people ship

[noble tulip]

6 years ago

[humble iris]

So she's outdated

[feral ridge]

Are there any meta fleets that use Amagi chan?

[frank pulsar]

no afaik

[hollow gust]

shes good for a beginner mob tank, but shes so easily replaced

[stark quiver]

no

[frank pulsar]

amagi chan is even more bricked than regular amagi isnt she

[stark quiver]

there are 0 meta fleets that use little ships

[feral ridge]

Darn. I was hoping to build a fleet around her

[pseudo stream]

You can still make one and use it for a lot of things

[eager mulch]

amagi-chan hater smh

[frank pulsar]

i used amagi over hood while i was newbie wdym

[forest palm]

back then she was actually better

[coarse heron]

Is Anchovy’s FS5 worth spending catch up prints on or should I switch to another ship for catchup once I get her Dev30

[stark quiver]

id do other ships' catchup and coin her

[coarse heron]

Okay so low priority then, cause I’m gonna be slowly coining Cheshire while doing another catchup

So many catchups to do

260 PR3, like 200 PR4, the PR5, then DR3 4 and 5

[forest palm]

Anchorage F5 is essentially just +Luck, the skill upgrade is basically negligible

[gray stump]

Does this map have no Auto Search function? Or could it be a bug?

[finite crag]

thats how it is

[vale spindle]

thats the EX stage

[gray stump]

But it has mob units & allows 2 fleets to be deployed

[dusk maple]

it's like SP but with higher level enemies & one time clear reward, no scoring or leaderboard

[gray stump]

Ahh, so the reward does not refresh every day?

[plain saffron]

it's like SP but EX

[late flame]

time to protest about lack of 500 chips

[pallid vortex]

sorry can i check does operation siren reset in 3hours or at the start of sept?

[forest palm]

27 hrs

[pallid vortex]

got it. thank you!

[forest palm]

[gray sphinx]

what's the clear reward? I've lowkey been skipping this event so I can farm 12-4 and up my fleets

[forest palm]

It's like 800 points, also you can complete this event in like 41~ish runs

one time only mind you

[gray sphinx]

hmmm I'm looking at the event rewards rn and it feels like I could probably skip this event and be fine tbh I'd rather try to boost my fleets to 120 as quickly as possible. thanks for the help tho

[vivid dune]

Where can I get these torps?

[plain saffron]

event limited

[forest palm]

Do not skip Zuihou, her 120 tech is highly valuable

[vivid dune]

Damn which event? It doesn't say

[sweet delta]

/wiki improved quadruple

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Improved_Quadruple_Magnetic_Torpedo_Mount

[gray sphinx]

I mean it can't be THAT valuable right? Im not really trying to be a tech completionist or something tbh

[plain saffron]

hit tech is valuable and she's practically free, why wouldn't you get her

more hit stats means less miss, means more dmg

[gray sphinx]

I ain't grinding those levels though. I want to just work on gear, ships, and affinity then call it a day. Trynna make it so all I have to do everyday is do dailies. Also wouldn't that only be useful in completing EX modes in event stages? I never clear those and never wanted to ngl

[vivid dune]

Dammit I skipped that event

[jaunty vault]

then you may skip zuihou

[plain saffron]

T3 have oil cap so it's not really a waste to farm there, it gives exp and affinity
but up to you if you still don't want her

[jaunty vault]

tech is valuable everywhere but if you don't wanna raise it, thats fine too

[plain saffron]

also not just EX, opsi, meta fight arbiter etc

[gray sphinx]

more exp than 12-4? or like way significantly less?

[plain saffron]

less than 12-4 for sure the lvl is very low

in terms of exp per oil prob not that bad

[finite crag]

i mean its a free ship, and 12-4 is permanently available, this event isnt

[gray sphinx]

ig if hit tech is one of the more important ones then I might get her and raise her just to make arbiter easier but I don't need every tech point in the game right? how many tech points do you guys usually farm up for opsi?

[plain saffron]

better to have it but don't need, than need but don't have it

how many fleet tech? as much as i can

more tech is more dmg, and not like i have anyone else to lvl

[gray sphinx]

so yall just keep farming endlessly with no goal in sight but to complete more and more till you crash out lol

[sweet delta]

[rain bobcat]

you dont stare at a screen for 20 mins of 12-4 just to press 1 button do you

[plain saffron]

farming fleet tech is the goal
like you levelled every op ships, what else you gonna do? stop playing?

[rain bobcat]

farming is very braindead and you just farm tech ships whenever you have a slot free and dont have any waifu to raise

it really doesnt make a difference

[plain saffron]

i guess if you didn't max your team yet tech is not your priority, but nice to have her right now than wait 2+ years

[gray sphinx]

still doesn't help how long it takes. they need a fast forward button and I know yostar can make one but they just refuse to

[plain saffron]

fast forward is useless when you're capped by the morale

[rain bobcat]

when you slowly run out of hot ships you want to level up ur inevitably just gonna use that spare 2-4 slots as random fodder ships to get to lvl 120

[gray sphinx]

gets me off the game quicker

[plain saffron]

also yongshi+manjuu is the dev not yostar

well if you don't want her just don't farm her

[gray sphinx]

nah not enough I want all my hot ships to hit 3m exp in overcap

[rain bobcat]

again ur not supposed to stare at the game especially if you have a pc

[plain saffron]

as long as you don't regret needing to wait 2+ years for her rerun

[stark quiver]

even if you have a phone, you dont need to stare

[rain bobcat]

wat the point lol I have over 80 ships at 125 atleast 8 mil overcap

[gray sphinx]

I want to get off the game faster so I can use my phone for something else

[stark quiver]

then just do daily missions and dip

[rain bobcat]

my earlier 3m ships easily have 10 mil by now because 125 didnt exist until 1 year or 2 ago

[gray sphinx]

I be playing star rail, azur lane, wuthering waves, and zzz all at the same time 💀

[sweet delta]

Then just start the 1200 oil commission and go do something else

[rain bobcat]

if you dont grind or dont have pc just dip after dailies

[plain saffron]

Azur lane is a grindy game after all

Imagine not using split screen

[late flame]

imagine not having a pc

[gray sphinx]

iphone

[rain bobcat]

all the games u listed are just as grindy only diff is AL is 99% automated after you 100% clear

[plain saffron]

at least others have actual gameplay

AL is type of game you clear once then use auto repeat while you do something else

[gray sphinx]

the difference is I want to clear opsi arbiter hard difficulty at least and only then will I dipo like someone mentioned with dailies lol. Making sure I get all my rewards while trying to stay as casual as possible with this game. That's my goal

[plain saffron]

if you can clear everything then you good i guess

[rain bobcat]

yeah youll def need quite a lot of hit and rld tech if you want to clear harbiter reliably

[plain saffron]

but do you know hit from zuihou will help you with that

[rain bobcat]

maybe a lot less if its within a few more years and we get more broken shit with no harder opsi boss

[gray sphinx]

ngl I feel like what we have rn is pretty broken. We also did have new PR/DR ships too.

[rain bobcat]

yeah its more than enough but you'd need tech and +13 gear to clear harbiter comfortably

[gray sphinx]

ofc I need 13+ gear too 💀

[stark quiver]

you dont

[plain saffron]

tech prob not that much, you have 4 fleet after all

[rain bobcat]

you could prob clear with little tech and +13 if you fill all fleets for the same armor yeah

[plain saffron]

my no gacha account doesn't have all tech bcs no gacha, and can still kill harbiter

[eager mulch]

gn nagami

[plain saffron]

gn turtle

[rain bobcat]

but if you wanna laze and guarantee any boss kill with just 1-2 fleets and no changing gear you gotta grind first

[gray sphinx]

you can beat hard difficulty arbiter with no gacha? I'm actually surprised

[plain saffron]

if you use 4 fleet you don't need to change anything

[stark quiver]

i can 2 fleet harbiter with 0 tech
and thats saying something

[sweet delta]

you can beat the whole game with no gacha

[stark quiver]

with good tech you can prolly one fleet it

[sweet delta]

some people beat hard arbiter with a 16 day fresh account

[gray sphinx]

I probably got cooked because half of my fleets or a quarter are like 110-120

[rain bobcat]

specific fleets yeah by a long shot

[plain saffron]

lvl advantage is huge

[rain bobcat]

you can prob kill temperence in 30-40s

[stark quiver]

also nagami, if i may ask, whered you get your pfp from

[plain saffron]

i forgot the artist account but i have the img

[stark quiver]

pls gib

[plain saffron]

i'll dm

[gray sphinx]

OPSI fleets

[elfin hollow]

whats the next UR event

[stark quiver]

in september, no clue what ship

[torn latch]

What

[stark quiver]

with 0 tech, would this fleet be able to one fleet hard hermit
w/o helena scans

[jaunty vault]

why use helena when you don't want her scans

[stark quiver]

just without scans for now, ill put in scans later

[jaunty vault]

best way to know is to try

[stark quiver]

well gotta wait like 26 hours

[plain saffron]

i need some sanity check, are 72k cog a lot?

alright so it's normal to have

[stark quiver]

i wouldnt say normal is the word

[eager mulch]

because I love her

[finite crag]

would this vanguard evaporate

[stark quiver]

🕹️

if it does ill throw in guam
also forgot to put in, backline is oathed and 200 aff

[steady beacon]

Well, just know that September Hermit has the 20s/20% shield
So, particularly given that you intend to manual, surviving is one issue, and the other issue is not throwing all your planes at her when the shield is up
Also, tbh, put Sirius as main tank (since you can tolerate her dying), and I'd probably Rudder/Manjuu Helena over Toolkit/Manjuu
And, well, if you're gonna manual, might as well carry Mk IXs, particularly given that Hermit is stationary for the first 40s

[stark quiver]

mk IX?

[topaz smelt]

anyone got an image of the opsi story icon?

[steady beacon]

The line-firing HMS torpedoes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Quintuple_Torpedo_Mount_Mk_IX

[plain saffron]

Like the map with that icon?

[loud scarab]

is this tp stage different from normal? there no autoplay of the stage

[stark quiver]

Yea it’s a one time thing

[loud scarab]

there's no reason to replay it?

[remote yarrow]

Nope, the stage itself doesn't give anything there's just one mission that gives 800 points for clearing it

[loud scarab]

i see ty

[topaz smelt]

ye the map icon

[shell willow]

this one right

[topaz smelt]

can you get like a larger ss of that?

[shell willow]

like this?

[topaz smelt]

cool thx

[jaunty vault]

did you join the server just to ask for that lmao

[plain saffron]

Based?

[strong tartan]

?desaB

[jaunty vault]

and he left

[frosty dune]

lmao

[steady beacon]

• Appears in gph out of nowhere
• Asks for one specific thing
• Doesn't elaborate
• Leaves
  Classic Rice

[stoic stirrup]

Edit this to change the output of the custom command 4!

[jaunty vault]

lol

[strong tartan]

and what if I don't

[jaunty vault]

i wonder if the bot is still active then is it possible to get the 6th anni role

haya try it for me pls

[strong tartan]

and what if I don't

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[whole crypt]

well looks like he's after screenshots maybe for writing an OS guide?
most folks around him on tierlist side probably don't have that icon left

[grand solar]

So I had a question. When the Siren says 50% reduced Damage from torpedoes, does that include from planes or just fired ones?

[whole crypt]

usually shit that scales on TRP I think... don't remember any siren mods that target torpedo type projectiles

[spring bolt]

usually it will be torp stat based torpedp attacks only, but it might include some other torp based attacks
and don't ask why shells/bombs can be torp based, this game has its own magic system

[whole crypt]

thing is I don't even remember anything prominent in OS with that mod

[stark quiver]

Smh could’ve stayed and checked the server out

[whole crypt]

he's been here long before he just chose to leave, don't ask me why

[stark quiver]

Bros got goals we don’t know of

[steady beacon]

The goal is obviously not being here

[crisp estuary]

[plain saffron]

is it possible to have 2 same enemy on map, like 2 or 3 1 star cv/bb/dd node?

[strong tartan]

future nagami answer us

[frank pulsar]

i think so...? idk about 3 of the same node but im pretty sure i saw multiple 2* cv nodes before

[plain saffron]

hmm do you remember which chapter, actually nvm should be same id

[remote yarrow]

Well, I just entered 14-4 and there's two 3* DD enemies if that helps

Like soup said, I remember seeing two of the same 3* enemies multiple times, but I don't remember seeing 3 at the same time

[steady beacon]

If this helps any
The cursed spawns I remember from my first run of 13-4H (initial and subsequent spawns)

[jaunty vault]

yes

[plain saffron]

that's so cursed

anyway thanks everyone

[whole crypt]

it's actually great because more XP

[thorn tartan]

do you get anything for clearing ALL of the opsi zones?

[whole crypt]

every zone has its own clearing reward if you want to skip anything

[thorn tartan]

are the threat 1 -3 clear rewards worth doing?

[whole crypt]

they can still drop coords and lab materials

there's also like only 2 c1 zones

[thorn tartan]

yeah, sometimes you get some coords. i just find that I get just as much or more just repeating threat 5 zones.... i could be wrong

[whole crypt]

well there's other stuff that can drop from clears including AP boxes too

just let it auto

[thorn tartan]

i auto everything in opsi...

[plain saffron]

then auto explorable too

[whole crypt]

then I don't particularly see the concern over trying to skip zones

[thorn tartan]

wait, will it clear zones on it's own?

[whole crypt]

if you didn't buy logger you'll need to recon before you can autosearch

but if the map is up you can autosearch, doesn't matter if it's explorable or secured

[thorn tartan]

i'll look at the settings

[whole crypt]

there's no settings involved

you literally just need to have the map revealed then just use autosearch

[dire plume]

Hi folks, started around 2 events ago. Where is the store for this event? I can get tokens but can't seem to find the store.

[thorn tartan]

no store

[whole crypt]

"minor" events like this one don't have event shops

[dire plume]

Also have 120 cubes, do I spend it all and try to get the UR?

[whole crypt]

no

don't try to pull perm UR

[thorn tartan]

this event is a free ship, you just have to earn enough points

[dire plume]

Ahhh thanks.

[thorn tartan]

you can click on the rewards button and see all the rewards

you earn them as you gain points from clearning stages

[dire plume]

With all these events when do I actually do the regular missions. Seems a waste to not use oil for the events.

[whole crypt]

this event has no shop and milestones end at 12k, you can go back after that, some people don't bother with the books and stop at 11k

[thorn tartan]

i checked the auto search options. there is an "explorable" option. does that select and clear unexplored zones?

or the unsecured zones

[whole crypt]

that is strategic search

and yes explorable just goes through all unsecured zones

[thorn tartan]

and gets me the clearing rewards

[whole crypt]

it just clears the zone like you would normally do if you entered then used auto

[thorn tartan]

but i don't have to click on 30 low threat zones.... right

[whole crypt]

there may be odd cases that it can fail to clear if some weird doodad interaction gets stuck, but that's the same as going in to use auto anyway

and again, this only works if you use 5k oil logger because you'll need to use recon on a per zone basis otherwise

[thorn tartan]

i use the oil. i can't be bothered

[late flame]

strategic search will not work with fog yup

[whole crypt]

then you're fine just hit up strategic search at the start of the month

[plain saffron]

explorable is unsecured

[thorn tartan]

yeah, it's a bit unclear

or was

[plain saffron]

every zone start with explorable, after you clear it once it turns to secured

[whole crypt]

explorable is literally the name of the zone layer you enter if zone is not secured

[thorn tartan]

maybe it should turn to explored

[late flame]

and the fun part is there is also a logger for hidden zones

[whole crypt]

I refuse to use hidden logger because I hoard vouchers

[thorn tartan]

i use the hidden logger too. i have enough vouchers for key things.

[whole crypt]

any non-infinite number is not enough

[thorn tartan]

i can buy nearly everything including the hidden logger, just by timely using the AP

but i really don't like having to manually click through 30 low threat zones. and we fixed that today i think

[whole crypt]

it's just a matter of how aggressively fomo you are and how much time you can burn for the mode/game

[thorn tartan]

i haven't experienced much fomo in this game. i've been playing for about 13 months i think. i miss a ship here and there, but there are so many

i'm way behind in gear development though. there is a learning curve

[wind hazel]

just be happy 👍🏼

[whole crypt]

don't worry about it there's nothing wrong about it
I just have a very aggressive hoarding mindset

[steady beacon]

Are you going for a countable infinity or an uncountable infinity?

[whole crypt]

technically a countable infinity will break computing so just set it to unexhaustible and call it uncountable

[late flame]

i somehow read it just whale aggressively

[whole crypt]

I do buy more gems than would be dolphin

[umbral briar]

what best choice ship will be with nagato? SR Main Only

[whole crypt]

is there any reason you want to use Nagato, and what are your options

[warped prism]

Where can i find pins/thread/channel for w15 guide?

[umbral briar]

because i wanna grind PR ship, and also UR have another Fleet (Cant uses)

[whole crypt]

should be /w15 do it in #bot-spam

[warped prism]

Ok

[umbral briar]

and for option i have almos all

[remote yarrow]

https://retropaint.github.io/azur-lane-fleet-tech-tracker/ Filter BB and CV , Rld > Hit > FP = AVI for Stat and IJN for Faction,choose whoever fills those requirements

If you wanna be efficient ofc, if not just use whoever that isn't 125

[umbral briar]

ok thanks

[unborn owl]

any suggest gear for chen hai kai?

[proven heart]

Is there any guide which explains the game?

[south sequoia]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

And https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/ for his entire catalogue of guides

[wide marsh]

Does cat node loot depends on corrosion level of area?

[south sequoia]

No

[inland shoal]

Only in the way that c5 and 6 have a chance to spawn 2 cat nodes

[remote yarrow]

Just farm C5

[atomic abyss]

depends on meowfficer levels

[atomic abyss]

depends on where you're using her
double flapjacks if w15 support fleet
otherwise, flapjack wyvern

[wide marsh]

I really hate flapjack for ufo style. What reasons to use them instead of Tigercats except for bigger price?

[atomic abyss]

outright better at interception

aka, they can kill planes better

[wide marsh]

That dont make sense for me. WHY Tigercats cost more and still worse?

[atomic abyss]

do consider that tigercats were added to the game before flapjacks were

i think by at least a year

[wide marsh]

Understood (but still sad)

[atomic abyss]

moreover

consider the fact you can just upgrade your existing hellcats anyways

not everyone has f4u corsairs in stock

personally i still retain tigercats from before flapjacks
and still use them for timing

[wide marsh]

I still dont care much about timing since my ships still not 125/lvl13 gear

[atomic abyss]

i barely have any +13 gear

[inner delta]

literally dont worry about changing to flapjack, i didnt need more than 2 to clear w15

[frank pulsar]

flapjack kinda not needed anywhere, but they are a nice upgrade for w15

i still mainly use tigercats

[fading crescent]

Any recommendations on ship and gear replacements?

[finite crag]

what is this for

[atomic abyss]

what are these fleets for

[gilded shale]

Who should I use these on?

[fading crescent]

For the start it's for campaign. Almost at chapter 11

[atomic abyss]

457 for your mobbing battleship
AFCT for your best bossing battleship

[atomic abyss]

definitely would be sufficient for chap 11
should be able to brute force chap 12 too

[patent violet]

Hi! im new player here, so i want to ask about ship on this 6th anniv invitation, any reccomend who should i get?

[atomic abyss]

#gameplay-help message

you can refer to this

[wide marsh]

I passed c12 with triple 406. You should care more about AA there I think

[atomic abyss]

if you're lost, you could always just save it

457 > 406 for mobbing anyways

[patent violet]

ah thank you so much, I really appreciate it

[finite crag]

up to and including chapter 12 you can just brute force using level nothing really special there

[wide marsh]

Do you think Juneau could be used in w13 or should I start looking for something like rainbow Dieg?

[atomic abyss]

for w13, juneau is definitely still fine

[frank pulsar]

sandy is completely overkill for w13

[atomic abyss]

you will want to look into sandy eventually ofc

[frank pulsar]

if you have the resources then its not a bad idea to start early, since shes used for w14 and w15 as well

shes very expensive though so keep that in mind

[wide marsh]

I have to get her from req/light RNG pool first.

[frank pulsar]

shes in medal shop i think...?

[atomic abyss]

she is

[wide marsh]

Randomized

[atomic abyss]

well we do mean whenever CL pool rolls around

[frank pulsar]

yea so just wait until she appear from medal

idk about req but shes not obtainable from standard light pool afaik since shes a medal shop ship

*req isn't worth it regardless

[wide marsh]

I mean CL pool. Not medal shipbuilding.

Also wiki says there is a chance to get her from light

[frank pulsar]

okay thats good for you then, but you still have to wait regardless

[frank pulsar]

also, you mentioned req earlier which is why i added that it wasnt worth

[solid vault]

What should I buy with 1.5k cores?

[finite crag]

uh

what cores

[atomic abyss]

3 pairs of shells, then independence

[atomic abyss]

this then

[solid vault]

Then the UR torpedo and Z flag are not worth it, no?

[atomic abyss]

absolutely not worth

[solid vault]

Alright

[solid vault]

What do you mean independence though?

[plain saffron]

/wiki independence

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[atomic abyss]

there is a ship called independence in the coreshop

/wiki independence

[late flame]

/wiki independence

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Independence
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Independence/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Independence/Gallery

Aug 31, 2024, 10:29 AM

[atomic abyss]

[late flame]

lol

[solid vault]

I see

Then I'll only get one shell for now, and imma leave the rest for independence

[atomic abyss]

no, 3 pairs of shells are higher priority

independence needs her retrofit anyways

[unborn owl]

no wyvern

[atomic abyss]

just as an fyi

you do realise she is like, one of the worst carriers in the game

so honestly, if you don't have any wyverns or whatever
just throw her barracudas and helldivers and be on your way

[wide marsh]

What fleet composition is good for w13? Should i go for something like 3CV-CA-2CL or stick with something like BB-2CV?

[atomic abyss]

you can go 3x CV for both or 1BB 2CV for both

what matters more, is that you actually have the gearing for 6 CV/Ls

[wide marsh]

I got helldivers xD

[atomic abyss]

i mean you'd need 6 pairs of catapults, at least 12 hellcats or better etc

[daring sleet]

somone have fleet on 14-3 to show (with new usr)?

[atomic abyss]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[atomic abyss]

fleets for w15 also work for w14

[daring sleet]

ty

[dusk spoke]

in the lab shipyard what happens when i dnt complete a research before the time limit or unlocked the next part?

[atomic abyss]

it's not a time limit

it's a time gate to keep you from unlocking a ship before 7 days

[rapid grail]

is c3 or c5 faster

[atomic abyss]

so the answer is, nothing

[rapid grail]

ah nvm

[dusk spoke]

oooh followup question what happens when it says sortie and accumulate 1 million exp with eagle union vangaurd ships but i have one at amx lvl will that ship still count?

[plain saffron]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

Yes

• Combat in Main Campaign, Events, Operation Siren
• Ships that are level capped for any reason, if the EXP otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• Muse (µ) ships and loli ships, if the faction matches.
• Use faction filters in Dock to double check.

No

• EXP from Exercise, Dorm, EXP Data Packs, Commissions.
• META ships. They are META faction, not the faction of their normal counterparts.

[atomic abyss]

^yes

[dusk spoke]

i got a looooooong way to go then XD

[atomic abyss]

the exp isnt even the hardest part

[torn latch]

Wait, you use rudder on backline?

[dusk spoke]

if i get around 350 per ship thats around 1k per battle soo 100 battles inst it?

[atomic abyss]

it can be a necessity there yes

[atomic abyss]

consider pushing to w12 before grinding your research ships exp
far more efficient there

[jaunty vault]

use only if it's a necessity

[finite crag]

rudder is kinda helpful for 15-2 boss

[dusk spoke]

prob with that is i only have bremerton high enough lvld for the eagle faction

[worldly pewter]

yeah only for 15-2

[atomic abyss]

you can get away with lv 80-90 ships for 12-1 if you have decent ships to carry you

even lower if your backline is actually strong

[dusk spoke]

ill prob just stick with my main setup and collect exp over time till i can properly grind for it

can i have only 1 research active at 0nce?

[atomic abyss]

you can only grind the exp for 1 ship at a time ye

[torn latch]

All three backline ship?

If I use FdG, then the aux is rudder+ black stuff? ,(I forgot the name)

[copper pine]

anyone know about the TP thingy

is it only once then dont do stuff?

[tame jungle]

Correct

[eternal basalt]

6 due to queue

[copper pine]

that sounds annoying to farm...

[eternal basalt]

You don't farm it, its one-time

[copper pine]

no i mean the event farming stuff...

[eternal basalt]

I mean, I got her today... doesn't seem bad

[jaunty vault]

you get boosted runs and really low oil cost cap

[eternal basalt]

400 per run with HELPs

[copper pine]

boosted run as in?

[tame jungle]

I got her day 1 it’s not that hard

[jaunty vault]

use specific ships in boss fleet get 200 points instead of 150

[tame jungle]

Just make sure one of the mentioned ships on event tab is in your boss fleet

[daring sleet]

ym can icopy gear from this site just using gear code?

[jaunty vault]

plus you only need 10/12k points

[copper pine]

i need to check what are the ships that give bonuses

[atomic abyss]

No, you can see possible comps and then adjust your gear accordingly

[daring sleet]

k

[eternal basalt]

And 14 days

[tame jungle]

Event page ingame

[atomic abyss]

Literally there where you see your total points

[torn latch]

Hello?

[jaunty vault]

hi

[torn latch]

What aux I should use on bbs in w15

[jaunty vault]

try table+shell(any shell)

if the BB dies, try rudder

[copper pine]

table?

[torn latch]

What the fuck is table

[warm flax]

Rainbow aux

[jaunty vault]

/wiki admiralty fire

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Admiralty_Fire_Control_Table

[copper pine]

now that's some new acronym shit

[frank pulsar]

white is better for w15 iirc
i dont think youll need rudder outside of 15-2
table is the admiralty fire control table

[torn latch]

That's called as table? Lol

[tame jungle]

i mean it says table

[torn latch]

Ah

[jaunty vault]

table/afct

[frank pulsar]

i like to call it gaming table

[jaunty vault]

it does say table

[copper pine]

i prefer rainbow fcr tbh

[jaunty vault]

i regret to inform you this but

[frank pulsar]

uh iirc aa radar is also viable on backline but idr the conditions that justify it

[jaunty vault]

i dont care what you prefer

[copper pine]

oki... prick

[torn latch]

If no table, then white shell?

[jaunty vault]

sure

[frank pulsar]

use hsfcr if no table

[warm flax]

Yeah

[frank pulsar]

imho the hit too valuable to pass up in w14 and w15

[plain saffron]

[torn latch]

Btw

Be prepared to quit the battle and retry.

How do I know when my main fleet will got yeeted in mere seconds?

[jaunty vault]

oh you will

[wind hazel]

when you see them 5% hp

[frank pulsar]

make better fleet
usually people get 2-3 shotted in 15-2 not one shotted

[warm flax]

What

[torn latch]

So how tf we actually can won the battle then? With relying on EVA rng from rudder?

[jaunty vault]

haru

[copper pine]

@jaunty vault imagine saying "i dont care" then when someone being aggro you just emoted

[frank pulsar]

no kill faster

[copper pine]

what a bish

[jaunty vault]

instead of asking so many questions

[plain saffron]

i mean like..it's their preference

[jaunty vault]

just try it out

[frank pulsar]

i never used rudder and only needed to reset once out of 4 tries

[torn latch]

So true, but I love to procrastinate with actually playing w15

[jaunty vault]

are you actually offended

[warm flax]

Even 15-3 is clearable with washing machine

[copper pine]

no i just like being aggresive when someone actually retort back

[wind hazel]

fight fight fight!

[tame jungle]

can you stop going baby mode in gph

[jaunty vault]

k

[plain saffron]

[jaunty vault]

im a babysitter

[plain saffron]

don't forget to invite mods to watch it together

[tame jungle]

don't do that you will break their bones

[jaunty vault]

wait no that's what the mods are for

[copper pine]

who are you to tell?

[tame jungle]

your mom

[frank pulsar]

if you're interested at that time i was running smth cope like nj + haku + sara + ancho + sandy (no unique aug) + ply iirc

[cobalt rapids]

yea very cope

[jaunty vault]

[frank pulsar]

yea it cope but the point is that it didnt have much survivability issue in 15-2 even with no rudder

[cobalt rapids]

i was sarcastic soup

[frank pulsar]

so therefore just kill faster is the way to go

[jaunty vault]

i wasn't

[frank pulsar]

ouh
mb

[cobalt rapids]

u wasnt soup

[jaunty vault]

yea that's cause I'm cooper

[plain saffron]

aren't you turtle

[cobalt rapids]

cooper x turtle

[sharp socket]

anyone has harbiter effects and armor

[tame jungle]

wiki

[plain saffron]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Arbiter

[sharp socket]

what is it called this time

[plain saffron]

you won't believe this. arbiter

[cobalt rapids]

strength

[jaunty vault]

med armour

[torn latch]

Btw what is best comp for Helena meta battle

[cobalt rapids]

3 ur bb x 3 ur vangs

[gray sphinx]

Does anyone actually use prinz for meta purposes? I have the prints to dev30 her but I’d honestly rather grind the exp for a DR or something else

[cobalt rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf5Y0HHy4CQ add more ships

[torn latch]

Prinz who

[torn latch]

Nice ty

[tame jungle]

prinz heinrich?

[gray sphinx]

Rupprecht

[cobalt rapids]

prinze rupp

[tame jungle]

no wait it's ruppy isn't it

[gray sphinx]

Yes ruppy

[plain saffron]

i'm at 6 ships how do i add more ships

[cobalt rapids]

and nope ruppy isnt meta

[plain saffron]

yes she's KMS

[tame jungle]

best part of maxing ruppy is that you will not get her face researches anymore when fishing for ply/brest prints (plus she is very cute)

[gray sphinx]

Eh I got everything in PR5 besides her already. Well I’m like 25 ish prints away from finishing brest. I’ll probably start farming shimanto cause I know her ass is used in W14 at the very least

[cobalt rapids]

her ass is also used in w15 at the very least ontop

[torn latch]

Wait, the purple auto-reload aux on Soyuz? Wtf

That aux is actually useful on niche situation?

[gray sphinx]

Damn bro looks like I got some work to do. I think I’m only halfway for shimanto

[cobalt rapids]

useful for timing

[gray sphinx]

Maybe in a month or two weeks I’ll have shimanto done. I have 213 prints rn

[plain saffron]

and when the ships already doing a shit ton of dmg

[torn latch]

So lemme get this stuff correct then, auto-reload on Soyuz so she can fire her salvo first before bis zwei?

[cobalt rapids]

she fires after bz but its so she can stick close to bz

if she sticks close enough her iceburg buffs bisko even if she fires after since its on rld

[torn latch]

Oh I see

[torn latch]

So would Alsace better than Ulrich then, if I want to add the third BB

[cobalt rapids]

yea

ulrich is in the lower tier of UR bbs unless a fight specifically targets her gimmicks while alsace is on the top tier

[reef flume]

You mean the community tier list?

[torn latch]

I guess I really need to drop my habit of using Ulrich on most single boss content lol

[cobalt rapids]

not i mean in general

[reef flume]

Oh

[eager mulch]

but this is gph

[gray sphinx]

Alsace is top tier? I thought she was one of those who has almost no place because we have just so many BBs

[cobalt rapids]

exactly

[cobalt rapids]

yes shes on the upper floor of UR bbs along with bz, musashi, soyuz and vanguard

[frank pulsar]

fdg, nj and uvh are the ur bbs starting to fall behind

[gray sphinx]

Well I’ve got all of those other than Soyuz so that’s good ig

[reef flume]

Community tier list is alphabetically order, don't let yourself get fooled guys

[cobalt rapids]

well bz is prob in her own league when it comes to st bossing but yea

[eager mulch]

they put amagi-chan in low tier so I dont like them

[plain saffron]

i'm not a fool because i read the guidelines

[reef flume]

Personally:
BisZwei>Musashi>=Alsace>Soyuz>Vanguard>NJ>UvH>Kearsarge>FdG

[cobalt rapids]

personally i dont agree

[warm flax]

Bz power crept when

[plain saffron]

time to sc that cooper sentences

[reef flume]

september

[gray sphinx]

Damn FDG is dead last? I barely got her up like two months ago

[plain saffron]

that's his tier list

[frank pulsar]

its more of zwei >= alsace = vanguard = soyuz > musashi > the rest of ur bb

[cobalt rapids]

on his tier list

[reef flume]

Dw I still use her

[plain saffron]

personally Saratoga > theseus > percy > the rest

[cobalt rapids]

this is why we cant have nice tierlists

[frank pulsar]

still much stronger than most ssr bb

[gray sphinx]

I just recently bought the gooniest skin for her too

[reef flume]

Musashi outdamages Soyuz, Vanny and Alsace tho(?)

[plain saffron]

more like NJ or uvh last

[cobalt rapids]

no shot u put percy below theseus

[gray sphinx]

Trueee

[frank pulsar]

only sometimes on heavy ( vanny is still dead last in terms of personal dmg though)

[reef flume]

Guys come on we all know Hermes>all CVs

[eager mulch]

personally,

[reef flume]

Ah

[warm flax]

Isn't fdg the best or 2nd best mobber

[atomic abyss]

3rd best imo

[plain saffron]

ender why you get online right now

[atomic abyss]

Well that's another warn

[gray sphinx]

Who is the best BB mobber rn?

[atomic abyss]

Musashi

[warm flax]

Probably sashi

[cobalt rapids]

depends where ur mobbing
shes 2nd best for non 3 star purposes in w14
bu shes not top 3 at all in w15

[atomic abyss]

Why did you choose to misbehave more like

[plain saffron]

also isn't the worst is NJ/uvh

[reef flume]

No UR is the worst (except Warspite) it's just that there are better choices

[cobalt rapids]

depends where

[frank pulsar]

nj is still better than fdg in w15 and bossing

[atomic abyss]

I personally still rate Alsace higher than FdG in general

In the case of mobbing

Preload is just excellent for mobbing

[cobalt rapids]

alsace isnt better than fdg in 14

[reef flume]

watch Yamato coming and powecreep all URs

[plain saffron]

ouh i thought fdg just beat NJ after fs5

[gray sphinx]

Good thing I’m still working on W14 so W15 won’t come by for awhile until I 125 a lot of my ships. I think I might need to work on my gear too when I tackle W15

[cobalt rapids]

and mobbing pre 14 is ez modo

13 doesnt even want bb for mobbing

[warm flax]

Yuh

[atomic abyss]

I still doubt the claim that FdG is better

[cobalt rapids]

based on what

[reef flume]

I prefer Alsace in bossing ngl

[atomic abyss]

Why spam barrages when you can end the battle faster

[cobalt rapids]

i run fdg and alsace in 14 and alsace did worse

[gray sphinx]

I don’t even remember what I used to clear W13 but I do know I needed a shit ton of those fire extinguishers and barely made it out alive

[atomic abyss]

W13 absolutely doesn't need fire extinguishers

[cobalt rapids]

the first wave is not dangerous, pushing the worse waves faster isnt rly a bonus

[atomic abyss]

W11 and maybe w14

[frank pulsar]

yea but you need to rmb her preload value is diminished due to unicorn

[cobalt rapids]

ehh

[frank pulsar]

fdg defences are also better

[cobalt rapids]

mby in ez modo content, unicorn isnt killing the waves with her preload in w14+

[atomic abyss]

In w14, that's not going to be the case

[frank pulsar]

which is why i said diminished and not wasted

[cobalt rapids]

whats diminshed about it

if stuff isnt hitting water

[frank pulsar]

itll just hit low hp mobs by the time alsace finish shooting no? vanguard dps can clean it up

[cobalt rapids]

also alsace is hitting hers first so its more like unicorns is diminshed instead if u wanna have it that way

[frank pulsar]

eh thats better wording yea
point is, fdg > alsace in w14 mob

[reef flume]

Y'all think Alsace is overall better for mobbing or bossing? Atm I use her in bossing

[atomic abyss]

Soyuz is just better in actually difficult cases

[cobalt rapids]

theres 3 types of mobbing in this game rn
easy content, w14 and 15
alsace beats fdg in 2 out of the 3 categories so i guess u can say overall shes better

[atomic abyss]

Because you're not getting as many light armour bosses the later you go

[cobalt rapids]

actually she beats her in 1 category and in the 2nd they tie because it doesnt matter

[reef flume]

I use Alsace in bossing simply cuz her 12% debuff is random thus works better against single target

Besides how do you all know which BB is better for a specific type of armor?

[atomic abyss]

Barrage mods

[reef flume]

Explain

[atomic abyss]

Alsace's barrage mods excels most against light, Soyuz against med

Nothing too complex

[warm flax]

Is barrage mod shown ingame

[atomic abyss]

No lol

[forest palm]

Have to peak under the hood for that

[tame jungle]

no but you can check this link https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[atomic abyss]

And you will almost never get a single enemy as a boss in campaign

Something else is likely gonna go on screen and mess it up

[reef flume]

I only knew Musashi being better in heavy cuz her 10% debuff compared to other armor types where is 5%

[reef flume]

You have a point there

[atomic abyss]

Alsace's debuff is only really notable in opsi/meta

[reef flume]

I'd use Soyuz in bossing, but I have a huge problem

[zinc gate]

Best guns for expert Leo challenge? I have most ur cept mushi.

[royal hedge]

For Operation siren, if I used all the action point refills 10 minutes before the reset and get 300 points excess, does it carry over to the next cycle?

[plain saffron]

all reset to 200 on reset

[cobalt rapids]

@zinc gate

[keen sable]

Try it

[late flame]

iirc it doesnt
i could be wrong though

[royal hedge]

Damn. Got 16 gold action refills. What a shame

[plain saffron]

use them now

[boreal wagon]

just grind secured zones

most people do C3 or C5

[royal hedge]

I do C6

[tame jungle]

can you run triple cv in w13 mobbing

[keen sable]

That's not relevant. I suggest you try seeing what happens by not leaving ops during reset. The key is don't leave ops...

[shell willow]

works for me in w13h

[tame jungle]

Nice

[late flame]

running 3xbb in w13 though..

[faint jacinth]

waht dev lvl plymouth usable?

[keen sable]

Ops doesn't reset if you don't leave it

[jaunty vault]

dev30 is recommended

she's usable on obtaining

[eager mulch]

is she good on obtaining?

[jaunty vault]

define good

[cobalt rapids]

good for pregrinding

[atomic abyss]

If you ask me, ply works as a buffer from around 20-25

[blissful hamlet]

does halford plane can passively intercept enemy plane?

[atomic abyss]

But to be the DPS carry she also is, 30 or bust

[jaunty vault]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

i used ply starting with d15

[blissful hamlet]

halford op

[jaunty vault]

halford plen p

[blissful hamlet]

huh wait since she technically only has 1 plane in slot does that mean the intercept only 1 plane?

[cobalt rapids]

it does mean that, unless intercepting during airstrike when its 4

[blissful hamlet]

passive intercept is 1 plane

no better than a CV

[cobalt rapids]

[plain saffron]

does all moving enemy always move after 3 turn

[inland shoal]

No

Always after 2

In events at least

[south sequoia]

In opsi its 3 turns, in events its every 2

And in very special events, there are some that just move every turn

[plain saffron]

is there any that move after 8 move

[late flame]

future nagami will answer no

[jaunty vault]

what are you cooking

[plain saffron]

i guess i need to test ashen simulacrum C2

[wary timber]

is the swordfish 818 considered a niche plane

[plain saffron]

what are you cooking
figuring out what the numbers in files means

[south sequoia]

Very

[wary timber]

whats their drop pattern ?

[jaunty vault]

parallel

think barracuda

[wary timber]

any CVs or CVLs would benefit from this ?

[jaunty vault]

not really

skill is practically useless

damage is lower than barracuda

[jaunty vault]

because

1. slow activates on hit, not on launch
2. its parallel not converging so not much advantage can be taken of the slow

[wary timber]

i see...

[rapid grail]

used to in #pvp
nowadays its not even worth buying

[rose whale]

I vaguely remember we can use 8 SR mats to craft 1 UR mats, but what was the craftable mat? I totally forget...

[wary timber]

whats the best shell to use with the AFCT? and then whats the best shell to use for Howe using a High Standard Fire-Control Radar

[finite crag]

white shell + radar

[finite crag]

ordnance report

[rose whale]

oh, thanks

[late flame]

if you got Royal Fortune : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UmZ27PVEAs
if not : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQgHA64CmAc

[night crow]

Soo, is Eldridge insane or just good now ?

[frank pulsar]

shes a better jda now iirc

[zenith heron]

The 10 sec invul on vanguard is truly smth, could've wished they added the proc chance a bit

[rapid grail]

pretty good for campaign
has one of the best utility for that content
also one of the best at helping frontliners survive as is the case against WichiM's withering pressure on the frontline

[late flame]

also, jda = jeanne d'arc

[frank pulsar]

a rough comparison from mebot ehp calcs

[night crow]

Yeah I really want to put her in my boss fleet for that, also haven't really been able to see if the cooldown was removed or not

[zenith heron]

Cooldown isn't removed, procs when damaged, and is at least longer duration, making her really good than we thought she was at first thoughts...

[night crow]

Shame, but then that would be too op

[zenith heron]

For pvp reasons I guess...

[whole crypt]

they removed the cooldown on entry

it can proc in the first 20s

[plain saffron]

do they not fix that yet

[cobalt rapids]

fix what

[night crow]

I'm guessing the skill decription

[cobalt rapids]

why would it not be intended

[plain saffron]

skill desc

[rose whale]

I have some extra proto core to spend. any of these print worth buying?

already bought all the series 3 prints

[plain saffron]

didn't in 1st patch it doesn't remove the cd

[cobalt rapids]

oh desc

[boreal wagon]

yeah the description just doesnt mention the cd at all lol

[cobalt rapids]

save it

[brazen knoll]

anyone else having extreme background flickering from the shops?

[wary timber]

so.... Type 1 shell with AFCT all the way ?

or do i combine it with the superheavy

[undone plover]

99% of the time it is AFCT/HPFCR

[vale spindle]

EN desc doesnt mention cooldown upon retrofit but does before retrofit

i updated the wiki to reflect the updated descriptions

[whole crypt]

reminder that nagami doesn't actually play the game

[vale spindle]

Doesnt matter both white/black + table are very similar

[undone plover]

~~good job sam, now pls update the fate sim skill descriptions ~~

[plain saffron]

yes i don't because i only read CN

[wary timber]

hmm so instead of the table i replace it with the HSFCR, which shell would work best with that? and factor in the fact that im using Howe mainly with that

[whole crypt]

white + table is just the better version of white + HPFCR

[boreal wagon]

thats no longer there since thorin ran his script btw

[vale spindle]

whichever shell you use alongside table or hsfcr doesnt matter cause the performance is similar

[wary timber]

cuz UK BB can use 6CRH too. im also interested in that

[whole crypt]

that's actually worse/barely better than white

congratulations on wasting 800 cores

[late flame]

technically worse since restricted to RN only
bought 2 anyway

[vale spindle]

Its there

[plain saffron]

worse even on RN

[late flame]

true that

[boreal wagon]

the 20s cooldown isnt there tho?

[whole crypt]

I'm considering performance on HMS ships, if not HMS it's just complete junk

[wary timber]

all right then. ill grab a white shell

[plain saffron]

only slightly better on light

[boreal wagon]

it was when u updated it but since then the script ran
and overwrote it again

[late flame]

tested on vanguard and it was meh
still permaslotted on qe, cope for her rework someday

[whole crypt]

it's not only because of light, it's just an accuracy consideration

[vale spindle]

It says starts the battle on cooldown before retrofit and thats removed post retrofit

[boreal wagon]

yeah but when u first changed it it had (20s cooldown between activation), on the retrofit version
which is now gone, thats what im talking about

[whole crypt]

[shell willow]

did anyone actually test it? i thought it was just a description error in game

[boreal wagon]

pre-script it had this https://cdn.mrlar.dev/i/y3JwkyFzAbJXdgbTA0bJV.png

[whole crypt]

test what

[crude kelp]

Any advices how to make full clear on lethal in 15-3? Looks like impossible after 0 ammo..

[boreal wagon]

thats all i was pointing out

[vale spindle]

oh

[shell willow]

if it has 20s cd or not

[plain saffron]

so it's not me not playing the game

[vale spindle]

yea its still 20s and EN doesnt mention it

[whole crypt]

why test it, it's on CN wiki

[late flame]

blame intern kun

[undone plover]

stronger mob, crossfleet boss (indep, percy), better gear, reroll for good rng (weaker enemy mobs)
try BZ + her special aux (i forgot the name )

[crude kelp]

Oh i get what item.

[whole crypt]

pre-retrofit: entry and internal CD 20s, treated as 100% evasion and doesn't stop ramming and burn damage
post-retrofit: no entry CD still 20s, treated as invul

alternatively start a thread so we can check ships/gear

[undone plover]

certificate of sponsorship

[copper ether]

I stuck at ch 13 and I found out about loadouts so I went to copy people’s loadouts but I don’t recognize any of their gear how do I get better gear? I thought it was just gear boxes and story stages
Especially where are people getting rainbow gear? I’ve only ever gotten them from events

[whole crypt]

research, gear lab

[undone plover]

also ignore in game loadouts

[whole crypt]

so if you're been sleeping on PRs and OS then... yeh
the loadout sharing is 🚮 because most people don't know what they're sharing

[undone plover]

if u want help with ch13 open a thread and post your dock and current fleets
we might be able to help

[crude kelp]

Yeah. Already got in core shop. Gonna try now

[plain saffron]

the only useful part of loadout sharing is the gear code copy

[whole crypt]

which is what I use for my low cost comps

[turbid dawn]

Have they ever updated the proto shop? I have over 10k proto core, bought all the gun prints and got nothing else to buy with it

[whole crypt]

I hope this answers your question

[jaunty vault]

every year

[whole crypt]

basically the only update we get with the proto core lineup is just adding "retired" series rainbow gear and the newest series ship/gear prints at some point

which yes is basically a yearly thing

[turbid dawn]

I wish there wasn't a cap as I had to catch up with PR after my break so I only have 1-2 of each rainbow gear

[whole crypt]

what do you mean cap

[plain saffron]

that's why they add older UR gear to gear lab

[turbid dawn]

With the 50 cap of the UR gear

[whole crypt]

I don't consider a limited stock a cap but I guess
you can craft it in gear lab if you really want to

[turbid dawn]

The problem is the Tenrai, Ply gun and the CA gun from PR6

Only have 1 of Tenrai+Ply gun and 0 CA gun even though I have everything FS5 and dev 30

[whole crypt]

wait for them to add to gear lab

and you don't need more copies per se

if you want more copies of rainbow gear I highly recommend you start by doing PR7 on gear focus so you don't end up on back foot every new series

[turbid dawn]

Yeah maybe I should've tbh, I'm only on 12 of the new plane prints, with the DRs being dev20 and PRs being dev25

[crisp estuary]

[whole crypt]

that sounds like on the slow side if you're been doing ship focus but shrug

[faint kite]

how many wyverns should i get before thinking of using resources on crafting other rainbow gear from the lab?

[cobalt rapids]

2 at least

[faint kite]

i do have 2

[cobalt rapids]

then consider if u want mk7s for light stuff or a 3rd wyvern if u wanna campaign in 14 and 15

[faint kite]

how many wyverns recommended for w14/15?

[cobalt rapids]

2-3

[whole crypt]

well for 14/15 you might want a 457 more if you already have 2 wyverns, but you can get a copy with proto

[cobalt rapids]

more is better, depends on ur fleets aswell

[lethal bolt]

Wanna ask, do I claim the weekly rewards now or wait for monthly reset?

[weary gust]

There is no point in waiting, if you are capped this month then you won't get any more, if you wait you will cap out earlier the next month. In the end you will always cap on spec cores each month if you are even semi active, so just claim now.

[lethal bolt]

Ok thx

[woeful sluice]

should I buy the 5 gold Eagle gear boxes for 25k coins?

[dusk maple]

No

[woeful sluice]

thank you

[worldly pewter]

if they have massive discount like 50%

[golden moth]

how to recover record files quest on opsi guys..

[undone plover]

Ngl even then I wouldn’t get em

[worldly pewter]

tobi doesn't have any gear

and the expected next event is in 2 weeks

[undone plover]

U dont rly need gear from t4 boxes to get to ch12
Purple gear is enough

[wind hazel]

25k coin is A LOT for a new player

[worldly pewter]

it is very hard to know if it is better to open t4 or wait for to combine the t1 and t2

[undone plover]

Welcome to hell https://azurlane.netojuu.com/images/3/34/OpsiFileCollectionlegend2.png

Check your archive/memory to know which zones u have the files for already

[golden moth]

Ohh my gloves ahhaha

[undone plover]

If it is not clear u are welcome to ask questions

[golden moth]

Hai hai will ask again...thank you..haa but ill study it hope my brain wont get smoked

[outer kernel]

if i can get hard arbi down to 15% is that close enough i can fight through the low resolve and fully kill it?

[crimson glacier]

fleet can only fight once

[sharp comet]

why am i unable to collect this?

[boreal wagon]

it gives like almost 100 gear pieces, thats why

[sharp comet]

no it doesnt

it gives 4 SSR bulins

[plain saffron]

it does

[outer kernel]

purple level books over limit?

[plain saffron]

click on the box

[undone plover]

Yeah just clear more space
Put your gear on empty ships

[coarse heron]

L-limit?

[boreal wagon]

there is 87 gear pieces in it to be precise

[plain saffron]

iirc 40 or something. ouh 87

[sharp comet]

oh it didnt say it gives gear on the shop. i just wanted the 4 SSR bulins

[plain saffron]

it does

[coarse heron]

Ships you’re levelling solely for tech are the best gear storage

[boreal wagon]

it said smth like gear booster pack or smth

it just doesnt elaborate what that means

[sharp comet]

commander level boost

[undone plover]

I mean it is free gear just clear some space

[plain saffron]

it does

[boreal wagon]

does it idr

[viscid swift]

if you tap on it it does

[boreal wagon]

yeah i meant the smaller desc

[coarse heron]

Remember: you don’t need to keep any blue gear except camo and steering wheel (and 1-3 twin French torpedos)

[boreal wagon]

but i see

[sharp comet]

thought that was just a choose 1 purple equip

[boreal wagon]

nope it gives u all of the listed

[plain saffron]

well as written there it's not

[coarse heron]

That reads like a “pick one” pack to me as well

[plain saffron]

bcs it didn't say "one of the following"

[boreal wagon]

it does

[sharp comet]

okay mr prrrrrr

[plain saffron]

prrrrrr

[boreal wagon]

its just unfortunate wording that can be understood wrong

[sharp comet]

u seem like a smartass

[coarse heron]

This game has famously bad English so I don’t trust the wording of anything in AL

[plain saffron]

grrrrrr

[undone plover]

It says the following not ONE of the following

[plain saffron]

you seem like a smart person

[boreal wagon]

which in english can mean both things

[sharp comet]

erm akshually it says one of the following!

[coarse heron]

It should say •all of the following• then

[eternal basalt]

"can be used to obtain the following gear" Its clearly user error here if you misunderstand

[sharp comet]

if it can be used, why does it give it automatically

[boreal wagon]

id like to remind you how english works and that that can in fact mean both things

[coarse heron]

That wording is dual meaning and can mean either.

[sharp comet]

being able to use it indicates that you have a choice to select smth of it

[coarse heron]

Vagueness is a key issue in the English language and that wording isn’t clear enough.

[crimson glacier]

i dont get what you mean

[whole crypt]

there's no point arguing this, it's just how the game works, you get it by opening the pack, if you don't have enough space you can't open it

[plain saffron]

the answer is need further testing
prob 2ndary healer

[plain saffron]

most likely because they copy pasted from other box which needs to be used and choose and also is buyable from packs

at least they bothered to make it more clear in newer packs

do you need to use this manually in depot?

[crimson glacier]

yep

[plain saffron]

thanks

would be nice if weekly packs give those instead

[whole crypt]

congratulations you just wasted 4 cubes and #trophy-room is that way

[coarse heron]

Bro wasted his cubes

[plain saffron]

saved few hundreds oils

[whole crypt]

but I was doing event for gold plate and book anyway

[plain saffron]

wait when did dock space price increase 1k or 2k

[coarse heron]

2k

Also if you got over 1k dock space you better be doing a meme like oathing 1000 Essex

[vital phoenix]

Is he bb gun better than ap against medium armor boss?

[eternal basalt]

We have 1000+ ships in 3 years or so

[sweet delta]

Good AP BB guns are better than good HE BB guns against medium boss

[atomic abyss]

The issue is moreso, good AP BB guns are either research, gear lab or event limited

Aka, not particularly accessible to new players

[onyx chasm]

Is she worth grinding for?

[eager mulch]

you can’t grind for her

[viscid swift]

you can't grind for her anymore, the event ended

[atomic abyss]

Event is already over, you can no longer grind currency for her

[undone plover]

Tbh 1 champy is easy to get in 2 months

[onyx chasm]

ah

[vital phoenix]

So... Is champy gun good? Is it better than mk7 against medium?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[undone plover]

Get it from protoshop
Dont put focus on series 3

[onyx chasm]

How can I get these quickly?

Or like in any way

[atomic abyss]

Whale

[onyx chasm]

Dam

[undone plover]

3 starring campaign maps
Memento/collection

It is finite so dont use it willy nilly

[atomic abyss]

You only get so much from 3*-ing story maps

[onyx chasm]

So what can they be usesd for apart from skins

[undone plover]

And dont use on skins if f2p

[whole crypt]

dock space, dorm expansion

besides these everything is basically a premium service

[onyx chasm]

Alr

[coarse heron]

What you should spend gems on depends entirely on how much you’re willing to spend on this game

[undone plover]

Well f2p advice is 3rd dorm slot, 2nd floor and then dock space
Beyond that yeah depends what u value and how much u want to spend

[onyx chasm]

What are these prices bro 💀

[coarse heron]

Cheap for a gacha game

btw $80 pack is best value in terms of gems per dollar

[worldly pewter]

u get 9800 with the x2 ?

[whole crypt]

with double bonus they're all basically the same, you get like maybe 1 cent better value on the highest pack

[tame jungle]

no you get 4900 x2

[worldly pewter]

[whole crypt]

the difference in value only kicks in after you spend double bonus

[coarse heron]

Yeah so like he said 9800

[onyx chasm]

Which node gives me the highest chance of getting rare and above ships?

[whole crypt]

boss

only boss node is guaranteed a ship drop, provided you clear it with an S

[onyx chasm]

No like is there a campaign or hard mode stage

[whole crypt]

besides that we don't have numbers for other nodes

[onyx chasm]

Oh

[whole crypt]

each map has a fixed drop list, and as far as I know for campaign it's the same list and drop chance between normal and hard

so there's not like a magical farm point you should go for with "better drops"

[blazing shale]

I haven't seen a gacha game like AL that's this generous to both f2p and whales in terms of cubes/gems, the 20$ gems suffice if you also buy the frequent skins package every now and then which hands (2k ?) gems

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't so much call the packs cheap as much as that you don't spend it on gacha

[blazing shale]

Right

But occasionally buying them even just once has a huge value

For f2p that don't whale