gameplay-help

[boreal wagon]

they were event limited

[finite ferry]

my bad, I just saw the wishing well pin

[undone plover]

this event
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Welcome_to_Little_Academy

[cobalt rapids]

timing minmax changes smth but its mostly tenrai with the ocassional skyraider for light/med st

[junior stratus]

wb heavy?

[cobalt rapids]

tenrai

[sick stone]

wait so you can just never get them?

[stark quiver]

When they rerun

[atomic abyss]

until the event reruns

[cursive lark]

Is tenrai armor break ever mentioned? Or is it just not useful

[boreal wagon]

u can get them when it reruns and whenever they become permamnent

[sick stone]

damn,,, ok

[cobalt rapids]

its not something u consider

[junior stratus]

What about new/craftable planes post-PR4, anything good? I'm assuming the URs would be at least but the are the timings worth

[stark quiver]

Vit2 has highest alpha damage and a timing sidegrade

[cobalt rapids]

la-9 probably, vit 2 ? probably not

[soft raft]

PR5 Vit is whatever
PR7 Vit is timing sidegrade to converging TBs
La-9 Pog
Floatplane bearcat is essentially Halford exclusive unless you like using BBVs and Sea tenders for some reason

[sick stone]

wait i feel like i need an account fix or something because i swear everything is cursed

[stark quiver]

You could always just ask

[cursive lark]

It takes a lot to brick an account

[cobalt rapids]

read sams guides, it fixes most of issues, if u have specific issues ask here

[junior stratus]

Also, 4 launch still a thing?

[cobalt rapids]

in what context ?

[sick stone]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/ this one right?

[junior stratus]

META fights, etc with that 1:20 timer

[cobalt rapids]

depends on meta fights and comps, but yes some showdowns still use 4 strike comps

[cursive lark]

Oh yea 2 purple thingy -4% airstrike cd stacks right?

[atomic abyss]

nope

gear passives don't stack if they're the same

[boreal wagon]

you also cant even equip 2 of them because they restrict themselves

[junior stratus]

Since when did Opsi not allow 2 of the same ships (on diff fleets)

[atomic abyss]

always

[boreal wagon]

has always been like that

[cobalt rapids]

since ever

[junior stratus]

what the hell,,, i'm tripping....

[cursive lark]

Do you actually use 2 same ships in other content ?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[atomic abyss]

you can but you really shouldn't

[cursive lark]

Asking because as if they thought it is normal

[junior stratus]

well no but I think I was cooked at some point that I wanted to use 2 Shinanos on OpSi, and it kept snowballing since I keep getting UR dupes after max LB'd the UR so I have 2 of some URs

[cursive lark]

Talking about cooked, if only they let us cook with that

[junior stratus]

multiple (of the same) crossfleets 😔

[atomic abyss]

shinano x-fleet barrage kinda washed anyways

[cursive lark]

Would the butterflies be in different places?

[atomic abyss]

i mean, theres no way of knowing

[junior stratus]

Who's the not-washed cross fleets now anw

[atomic abyss]

alsace and soyuz have the strongest x fleet barrages

[viscid swift]

battleships basically

[hollow gust]

Just use your mob and bb fleet for cross fleets

[cobalt rapids]

alsace soyuz musashi kron(bb) nj(eu) indep(cv)

[viscid swift]

Musashi

[sick stone]

ok it has become clear to me that i have NO gear lab mats so ig im farming OpSi

[atomic abyss]

uvh/fdg/guam have strong ones for interception too

[cursive lark]

Who knows maybe if we use fleet 1 for bossing and shinano in fleet 3, the butterfly would be in middle position or smth

[atomic abyss]

you literally can't use dupes in opsi

[cobalt rapids]

fdg doesnt have a xfleet

[junior stratus]

damn, I guess I was just tripping

I guess it's worth retiring those UR dupes at least?

[atomic abyss]

wait ah yeah

[worldly pewter]

u can keep them for souverir

or flex in pvp defense teams

[junior stratus]

but collab ships

Also, sorry for having so many questions 💀
Were there any worth METAs that have passed by?

or are they still like, very niche

[cobalt rapids]

they arent relevant for ppl with rainbow docks except that alot give good tech

[sick stone]

fleet suggestions

[stark quiver]

No worries
And meta aren’t really impressive from the top of my head it’s jintsuu meta and fortune meta stand out as well as the SR metas

[atomic abyss]

bearnM for farming, jinM for torp nukes and pvp memes, forM for pvp memes

[junior stratus]

Oh they give tech? Guess I'll go farm the CVs at least

[soft raft]

you're also most likely already using better or about as good options to grind the META points in the first place anyways

[stark quiver]

Yes they give tech
Good tech btw

[atomic abyss]

souryuu M is of note - CV reload+2
same as her non meta form

[junior stratus]

Finally more reload....

[stark quiver]

And you only need to get to 5k pts cuz they work like UR’s

[shell sigil]

Can someone explain me why I can’t add some blueprints here? I’m tapping plus and max buttons but nothing is happening 🤔

[viscid swift]

she needs to be at least level 10

[atomic abyss]

as rather poorly explained by the text next to the dev level, how many BPs you can chuck in depends on the ship level

to reach dev 10, you need to be at least level 10
to reach dev 20, you need to be lv 30
to reach dev 30, you need to be lv 70

to reach fs5, you need to be lv 100

[junior stratus]

Can I straight up just ask for a whole OpSi Fleet comp in a thread ?

[soft raft]

(This is also the same as the lvl mininums for limit break)

[shell sigil]

Ok, I’m 73 lvl currently, I added few blueprints, it makes her almost 10, now I want to add more but I can’t

[atomic abyss]

sorry, i wasn't clear
not your commander level, your SHIP level

[shell sigil]

Ohhhh, ok I see now, many thx

[timid beacon]

Any way to farm specific stuff for gear lab

[soft raft]

nope
no specific zones to farm for specific materials

C5 or bust

[sweet delta]

I bust 😔

[worldly pewter]

clearing opsi content and buy from the port shops
next month u can buy from the voucher shop for more content

[eternal basalt]

There are some bosses like the one in the middle that drop choices for plates and lab items though, so do those every month

[sweet delta]

Also do level 95 daily raid if you're high enough level, but not a farm and you should be doing it anyways

[worldly pewter]

yeah we can call that specific too but since they are 20 days in i would be glab if they can do ch4

[timid beacon]

Damn C5 still too strong for me

[tired condor]

does fdg or vanguard do more damage to mobs

[atomic abyss]

fdg's main job is mobbing

vanny is more a BB support for bosses

[stuck stirrup]

are chips plentiful enough that I should be be freely awakening ships that I'm using to do heavy-lifting for the main campaign / hardmode, even if they're not necessarily high tier meta

[atomic abyss]

you will feel the pinch later, just not immediately - at least for levelling to 120

[stuck stirrup]

alright

[atomic abyss]

and once the shortage starts, it'll be there for a loooooooooong while

[soft raft]

if you're a normal player not at the point of lvl 120 tech grinding, regular cogs arent really much of a issue
Cognitive Arrays on the other hand will require you to be more choosy on who you want to use them on since lvl 125 is mainly for W14+

[tired condor]

is there a way to make strongholds visible so i can just auto them

[cobalt rapids]

orders->recon

u might still get stuck in fog patches

[tired condor]

holy shit i forgot that exists

[soft raft]

granted sometimes it'll get stuck in the cloud areas and then turn off but that's relatively rare

[tired condor]

i think i finally got a team that can clear everything on auto

just 2 months ago i had to attack the final stronghold boss like 15 times to kill it

[atomic abyss]

you can leave strongholds midway right

[soft raft]

yee

[atomic abyss]

[soft raft]

Abyssalls and Harbiter are the ones where you cant leave to heal and come back

[lone knoll]

my indiana keeps dying (vanguard) idk why, i have not changed her gear and my team went from clearing ezpz to dying

[atomic abyss]

indianapolis i assume?

[lone knoll]

the new ssr one

[soft raft]

that's a battleship not a vanguard

[lone knoll]

sorry I meant flagship

[atomic abyss]

and thus she should not be dying
WHERE is she dying?

[silk helm]

is she MLB?

[lone knoll]

onj world 10-3....

[atomic abyss]

10-3 and underlevelled?

[lone knoll]

shes max mlb and max xskills almost, went from clearing above 50% hp to not clearing at all

[atomic abyss]

dying to fire damage, perfectly normal for w10 and w11
give her a fire suppressor

[lone knoll]

makes sense I will try with fire supressor

but why was I clearing 3 times ain a row withou issues and all of a sudden its impossible?

[atomic abyss]

depends on what nodes you're running into

[lone knoll]

humm but I only die on boss node

[atomic abyss]

...

[lone knoll]

im not using 2 fleets yet... my bad

I need entry leveled up to use 2nd fleet

[atomic abyss]

yes, 10-3 boss is what i like to call the sniper boss

yukikaze + kongou and haruna who will slap the backline with salvos

[lone knoll]

yes my backline gets melted

does the fire supressor still apply?

[atomic abyss]

and indiana attracts all the fire since she's the only BB

it'll help minimise burn ticks at least

battle probably isn't ending fast enough either

[lone knoll]

yep it takes a while, so should i just 2 bbs?

[atomic abyss]

unless they're of similar level, probably won't help

[unreal bloom]

Is the sap gun worth using in medium armor boss battles over he or ap with good modifiers?

[atomic abyss]

not worth crafting, though it is better

[soft raft]

Marco gun not worth the hassle compared to just using Champy

[lone knoll]

any of these any good at first glance?

[unreal bloom]

Ok

[soft raft]

Quad Bofors is decent AA
SG Radar is for Helena Retrofit only (And when with BBs that're using AFCT/HSFCR)
Twin 113 is also good AA

that's about it

[atomic abyss]

entry?
anyways swap belorossiya with indomitable
put her as flag

[lone knoll]

okay that helps.. I think my ships are very badly geared

[atomic abyss]

until sara is high level enough at least

[lone knoll]

put belo with indiana in the same team? and iniana off flag?

[atomic abyss]

indiana barrage can be used off flag, so yes

fire suppresor to belo in that case

[lone knoll]

I will try it now then

thank you in advance

[atomic abyss]

you can switch back to indomi once you hit w12

indiana doesn't deal well with the suicide boats of w11 on her own, at least without specific gear

uh, could shimanto main tank?

[sweet delta]

There's also big brain strat of using the second throwaway fleet for two mobs so that the real fleet has ammo for boss

[cobalt rapids]

She can main tank 15-1 on safe

[lone knoll]

i dont have her I think

[atomic abyss]

(i was asking for myself)

[lone knoll]

my bad

[eternal basalt]

PR6 ship

[lone knoll]

I will try it now

[atomic abyss]

percy is to blame then
she's dying in stronghold currently

well, dying after a few mini bosses

[sweet delta]

This is a team game, the whole fleet is to blame

[frank quartz]

I've been using 3 pulls daily but got only Pittsburgh, Is it worth pulling others using rest of my pulls before the event ends?

[atomic abyss]

no

[soft raft]

how many cubes do you have left?

[sweet delta]

Depends how many cubes you have and whether you want them for collection or for usage

[frank quartz]

Have about 100 cubes

[atomic abyss]

yeah probably not then

[frank quartz]

Okay

[drowsy hornet]

Considering French ships only, who would you replace Algérie with? I was thinking either Brennus or Bayard, but I'll leave the question open-ended.

[tall dawn]

Where and how do I use specialized cores?

[soft raft]

protocore shop for either DD -> DDG/SR->UR retrofit materials or mainly UR Bullins

[viscid swift]

for what content exactly

and if you can't max limit break Mogador I'd replace her too for the time being

[drowsy hornet]

Fleet is WIP still, planned for bossing once I get it done

[viscid swift]

what specifically

[soft raft]

but bossing in what content?
W9? W10? OpSi? W15?

[viscid swift]

a campaign boss fleet is a very different thing to an OpSi boss fleet

[drowsy hornet]

Which would you recommend using it for? I have an airspace-lockdown fleet I have slated for late campaign use since I've heard those maps are very CV-heavy when it comes to bosses.

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't push past W13 with it at all really and even in W13 I wouldn't be that comfortable with it

just having high ACV doesn't make the plane issues go away, you also still need to have good AA ships in the fleet and/or carriers as well for fighter cover

[tall dawn]

It keeps telling me I’m at the limit of specialized cores, but I’m only at 1k

[viscid swift]

neither of which that fleet as it stands currently has and the former you'll have ever really for the time being with the current french options

[cobalt rapids]

/corewarning

[viscid swift]

the limit is on how many you can EARN a month

[soft raft]

/corewarning

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1234503367070449664/image.png?ex=6630f85a&is=662fa6da&hm=54a69b0a628f86ece9e973ea5952798e87f4adf1e5c5931926afa4260f147042&

[tall dawn]

Ok

[viscid swift]

for OpSi, if you can I'd replace Champaign with a Dev 30 Flandre and sub Algerie for Marsaillaise if you have her

[drowsy hornet]

My lockdown fleet is USS with Sandy retro + aug, Guam, Laffey II, YT II, Sarge, and Indep.

[cobalt rapids]

I saw the day cheeky is faction fleeting

[zinc hedge]

Need suggestions,

My boss fleet:
Portland Helena Kasumi Meta
NJ Belorusiya, Enty

Mob:
Phoebix Z23 Retro Noshiro
Uni Retro Sara Retro Richilieu

Lv 100:
Penny, Soryuu & Hiryuu

Should I pull for Hood?

[viscid swift]

again, that's great but none of that is gonna help the french fleet itself when it goes up against those late game bosses

[soft raft]

you dont need to pull for Hood what
she can appear in medal shop

She would replace Richilieu (Also why is Richy off flag)

[cobalt rapids]

Only get hood from rookies or medal shop

[viscid swift]

it just doesn't have enough AA potential for W15 practically speaking and for W14, 3 BBs is not something I like simply because of how much better CVs tend to be at at clearing

[drowsy hornet]

That's what I got for frenchies

[viscid swift]

and for W13, you're basically banking on the fact you have so many good ships you can kill the boss faster than the planes kill you

This is what I'd run for an OpSi bossing French fleet

[lone knoll]

: D

[drowsy hornet]

I can run all of that but Flander. I'll have to start on her after I finish unlocking Nakhimov

[cobalt rapids]

U can but not rly unless u can afford to mlb both alsace and mogador

Else use better stuff

[drowsy hornet]

Alsace is maxed. If you read back, the fleet is WIP. I'm not actively using this fleet until Mogador is mlb

[zinc hedge]

I mean, do I still need Hood?
I try limit my focus, I am still early game, don't have ability to raise many ships

[cobalt rapids]

Nothin rly told me alsace is mlb and wip can have alot of meanings
It was just a heads up to not use non mlb ships

Is ur nj mlb

[drowsy hornet]

Yep

[drowsy hornet]

Look at the stars below the ships in the formation pic I sent. Pretty big giveaway on lb status

[cobalt rapids]

Yea it gives away alsace is 5 stars

[zinc hedge]

Richie my flag, usually NJ/Belo go off- flag

[cobalt rapids]

Is ur nj mlb

[soft raft]

your BBs should be flag since they're more tanky and if the flag dies, the whole fleet goes down with her

[drowsy hornet]

Pic is about a week old, but I got it to mlb yesterday, sorry.

[viscid swift]

I've been told my math is shit before and that I'm practically behind but that is a 5 star alsace

[zinc hedge]

Yes

[cobalt rapids]

Okey then hood is not so important

[eager mulch]

I’ve been told that the image is a week old and he got her to mlb yesterday

[rain bobcat]

[eager mulch]

wait I can’t read

Wait im confused

wait no im turtle (cooper)

[rain bobcat]

[cobalt rapids]

Turtle are u okay

[eager mulch]

ye, not confused anymore

[viscid swift]

I think the rot has finally taken it's toll

[eager mulch]

classes started today

[viscid swift]

that explains a lot

[jaunty hearth]

I am a little bit outdated about gear lately since half a year and more...
But... today I noticed 15-4 got oil limit . So here I am...
I was wondering which fighter should I use in the support fleet.
I have the AA meme fighter, but there is the meme upgrade in the gear lab and wondering if I should use that instead... but I saw a lot of player using the XF5F Skyrocket too.

[cobalt rapids]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[sweet delta]

Did someone say faction fleet

[forest palm]

[copper ermine]

If i dont have the gear suggested on the tier list how can i decide what to gear my ships with?

[cobalt rapids]

Read sams guide and look for the poverty options at the bottom

[stoic tulip]

Does anyone have a link for the equipment scrap guide?

[cobalt rapids]

In/equip

[stoic tulip]

Ln/equip

[cobalt rapids]

/equip here

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[stoic tulip]

Thanks!

[copper ermine]

what if i dont have the poverty gear either? For the record my main fleet has the guide stuff im trying to train up torpedo ships to actually meet requirements for hard mode maps

[soft raft]

Then open tech crates

[cobalt rapids]

If its not in poverty gear then its bad gear u should be looking to swap asap

[copper ermine]

well im going to need to go through the scrap guide then to clean out my inventory to make room for my crate pulls

[elfin hollow]

Where do i get tai Yuan retrofit

[dim anchor]

What is this thing all about?

Is it like free 800 gems or what?

[frosty dune]

the contest ended already

[dim anchor]

Sorry, was

I didn't get it

[soft raft]

You wait until her retrofit item reruns or it gets added to protocore shop

[remote yarrow]

It potentially was, if you won ofc

[eager mulch]

or he mystically discovers it in his depot

[dim anchor]

I see, so it wasn't guaranteed

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[dim anchor]

Okay, thanks, I just thought I missed out on a guaranteed 800 gems. Now I can go to sleep without any worries

[remote yarrow]

Almost all of X/Twitter contests are random

Can anyone explain to me why does the Fleet Tech tracker has "exceptions"?

[viscid swift]

what exceptions?

[remote yarrow]

Cuz I some of the ships I had 120 weren't appeearing and I noticed some of them were exceptions

[toxic onyx]

Is there a link for a returning player? I played since like 2019 ish wondering if my ships are good lol

[viscid swift]

oh, that means they only give tech to their own hull type basically

[forest palm]

a lot of that is HP tech lol

[viscid swift]

as to why they're not appearing I have no clue, the site is a bit buggy at the best of times

[remote yarrow]

oh

[viscid swift]

it's also not even accurate to boot

Huang Chang and Strasbourg are still listed as giving FP tech to BBs and BBVs

[remote yarrow]

You can give this a read to refresh your mind https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips any questions further feel free to ask them in here

[toxic onyx]

Thanks 👍

[remote yarrow]

We can also help you with your fleet(s) if needed too

[toxic onyx]

Does this game offer codes ?

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[viscid swift]

actually...

there is the uh mobilization thing currently ongoing

[toxic onyx]

Dam

[remote yarrow]

oh right

[toxic onyx]

I wouldn't mind sharing what I have

[viscid swift]

that

[remote yarrow]

Veterans are gonna want to take advantage of you, run!

[toxic onyx]

Oh no

[remote yarrow]

Go ahead and post your dock in a thread sorted by level, leave out common and rare ships

[remote yarrow]

btw this was a joke don't worry

[toxic onyx]

It really is crazy how my thinking works now that I have a decent paying job than back when I was still in school

Is like" hm I can dump a bucks here and there" rather than "damn I wish I had more cubes"

[remote yarrow]

Uuuh buying cubes with money isn't recommended even if you have the money to do so

You get enough cubes from just playing daily

[toxic onyx]

Yea the game is pretty f2p

Unlike other gachas omg the constant buy this SSR for 50 stones is insane

[toxic onyx]

Oh ok what about the equipment? I have stuff in my inventory but I just never bothered with them

[remote yarrow]

You can also show your gear, purple rarity and above

[toxic onyx]

Alr

[remote yarrow]

If you want a guide itself you can read this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment

[toxic onyx]

Oh ok appreciate it

[remote yarrow]

Any time now

[unborn owl]

which ship are good wit this gun?

[undone plover]

CB like agir, kron, brest, etc

[unborn owl]

kron already equipped. agir has her gun. brest?

[undone plover]

it goes Guam gun > this gun > agir gun
give the best to your best CB
then equip whatever is left on the rest of em

[timid beacon]

Do you have to get 3 stars in a hard mode to get t3 retrofit prints to drop

[viscid swift]

no

[unborn owl]

was. but now it's not

[silk helm]

How's this opsi team

[remote yarrow]

Not good

[unborn owl]

is that for mob cleaning?

[remote yarrow]

Were these your leftover ships after the first 2 or what?

[silk helm]

Well I just need boss damage

[viscid swift]

never a good sign if I can't tell what a team/fleet is for

[undone plover]

in Opsi u want to concentrate BB into one fleet
and CV into another
mob can be anything

[silk helm]

I have a bb cv and mob

[viscid swift]

so this is the leftovers then

[silk helm]

This is just to do damage for the boss

[undone plover]

another BB would be better than lusty

[sharp socket]

for leftover stack crossfleet
also why is agir in the leftover

[viscid swift]

I don't know what you have so I don't know if better is practical at this point but 4th fleets are not gonna be stellar for most people anyway

[sharp socket]

if you cant kill the boss in 3 fleets then something is wrong or you’re not ready to kill said boss

example being harbiter

[silk helm]

well im talking abt like strongholds and sirens

and i think i didnt have agir when i made the thread lmfao

[sharp socket]

stronghold and abyssal you can just do with your mob and boss/BB fleet

send the cv and mob fleet into the abyssal if necessary, and hit a regroup and rest if you still cant kill it

though if you need a regroup and rest its probably some other issue like gear matching or levels

[undone plover]

if u want to optimize your fleets better open a thread and post your dock
(and your current 4 fleets)

[timid beacon]

Does the event drop any like carrier t3 retro fit copies

[undone plover]

there is some in the milestones

[soft raft]

but in terms of map drops, no retrofit BPs at all
that's mainly a Campaign Hard mode thng

[half plover]

so I am really close to get the last wichita meta copy, what are ur guys thoughts on her

[remote yarrow]

Niche

[half plover]

so bringing houston up to 120 for eva tech is still better?

[soft raft]

glass cannon
in fact ECTL prelimed her at TN (Idk why but granted it's prelim so subject to change)

but at the bright side she's CA FP tech

[half plover]

oh I see

ty

[sweet delta]

Highest damage vanguard but has high variance and is made of paper

But she can't get easy faction buffs like hinden or mog

[slow fox]

High Variance mentioned

[fluid brook]

Whats that?

[sweet delta]

In statistics, variance is a measure of how spread out or dispersed a set of data is. It's the expected value of the squared difference between each data point and the mean of the distribution. Variance is calculated by subtracting the mean from each data point, squaring the results, and then averaging the squared values.

[eager mulch]

[late flame]

meta in a nutshell
when facing them as boss
when in your fleet

[fluid brook]

thats why that meta is lowercase

[vague fable]

what node for farming PR exp

[fluid brook]

12-4

[blissful hamlet]

Faction fleet good

[keen sable]

D3 or 12+

[unborn owl]

does eldridge kai good?

[eager mulch]

gn gph

[plain saffron]

Goodnight

[unborn owl]

explain why

[fluid brook]

Gn

[undone plover]

she provides good utility
decent AA, great ASW and great defensive skill
useful in a number of situations

[sweet delta]

People have to sleep

[terse grail]

When is the estimated date for the JP anniversary event in-game?

[forest palm]

Stream is the 7th, so potentially the 12th, or 19th

[unborn owl]

then sleep

[little tree]

Has eldritch retro testing finished?

[sweet delta]

Testing is a forever process, but what specifically do you want to know?

[true latch]

chat im washed and i need help

[sweet delta]

What does washed mean

[plain saffron]

Another philosophical discussion?

[forest palm]

[exotic wren]

idk finite maybe?

[remote yarrow]

Someone who has good at the game long ago and now is pretty bad at it

Atleast that's what I remember it as

[forest palm]

the phrase is literally, "washed up"

[remote yarrow]

oh

[plain saffron]

So they took a bath?

[remote yarrow]

Guess they did

[little tree]

Is she worth the matts to retrofit for campaign

Should I save to get her in merit shop

[remote yarrow]

Not high prio to get her Retro, but go ahead and get her from merit if you want to

[slow fox]

Doubles vanguard eHP :mutsukinod:

[silk helm]

when do u get azuma or drake from research

[forest palm]

when you've nothing better to do

[frank pulsar]

when you need a tank get azuma

[forest palm]

cause she's so high in demand

[plain saffron]

Anyone remember when last time they updated medal shop?

[remote yarrow]

August 1st?

Or like added new stuff to medal shop? Cuz that I don't know

[forest palm]

I assume an overhaul

[plain saffron]

Do you remember if medal shop store monthly rotations in files like core data?

Update as Added new stuff

[forest palm]

probably whenever they added the Breguet

[plain saffron]

Nvm found it

Thanks anyway

I know I'm not crazy after all

[zinc hornet]

should i build a fleet around shinano with the first 5 and shimakaze?

are these once per rotation or once ever?

[inner delta]

one time purchase

it says it there

[soft raft]

most of the time you build fleets around Content, not ships
Also [Insert obligatory "Faction fleet bad" statement here]

[prime sluice]

Does anyone know the time drop for pittsburgh for when I build?

[vale spindle]

/wiki recent news

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/2022
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/JP/2020
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/EN/2021
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/JP/2018
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/EN/2019
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/2023
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/CN/2018
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/CN/2019
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Recent_News/EN/2020

Aug 27, 2024, 2:39 AM

[zinc hornet]

even with shinanos significant buffs?

[rain vine]

they arent enough to justify using shouhou

[soft raft]

realistically the only place where that matters is to buff Haku in OpSi CV comps (With Kazagumo being the other ship to fufill Shinano's IJN requirement for said buff)

A majority of faction specific buffs are basically treated as self buffs one way or another and are not worth building faction fleets aroun

[zinc hornet]

ah okay, ty. still learning the ins and outs of fleet building

[plain saffron]

Once per number. More number added whenever devs feel like it

[zinc hornet]

alright, ty

[calm junco]

Hi, this is my first time playing, I started a week ago and I need some advice with my fleets, please if anyone can help me I would appreciate it.

[viscid swift]

have you given this a read yet?
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[candid bronze]

What stage best for farming coins?

[inner delta]

w12+

if you are lower then just highest

[rocky fjord]

did eldridge require an event item for retro

[atomic abyss]

Yes, like all UR retros

[rocky fjord]

i dont see details on her wiki page

[atomic abyss]

The event for her item is still ongoing though

[rocky fjord]

for how long?

[atomic abyss]

I'm guessing till maint, can't remember

It's one of those 7 days mission things

[rocky fjord]

alright, guess ill have to squeeze it

I couldnt check ingame rn so ty

[candid bronze]

Thanks

[jaunty pecan]

there's only.. 3 days for the event farm?

[calm junco]

yes and this is the main one I have been using. I'm on chapter 7 currently

[ebon oxide]

Is D3/highest stage of events typically the best for coin farming compared to 12?

[queen jackal]

how many blueprints of rainbow gear do u need to craft

[stark quiver]

50

[queen jackal]

ty

[calm junco]

I just got the free SR invitation and enough medals to get another one so I was wondering if I should replace someone

[stark quiver]

nobody for now just hold onto it

[forest palm]

that fleet looks solid as is, minus Pitt not being MLB

[stark quiver]

thats easily fixable but yea fleet looks good

[forest palm]

I see Sara, and I choose to ignore her

[soft raft]

D3 is the best event map to farm unless you want to min/max B1

XP and gold wise, it's about as good as W10-11

[soft raft]

Ignoring the missing limit breaks And Unicorn and Saratoga retrofits not done yet, that's pretty solid
Tho keep raising your portland on the side, since she'll be the tank for your eventual 2nd fleet and you need to do like 80% of her retrofit for rookie mission anyways

[ebon oxide]

Nice. I was just able to clear D3 on manual with S ratings today and now I’m farming it like a madman for the gold bofors and pts.

[stark quiver]

4 years and still didnt do rookie missions

[ebon oxide]

we love knocking out 2 birds with one stone

[plain saffron]

Once you reduce the threat lvl to safe you can probably auto it

[ebon oxide]

Yup, working on it!

[brazen hornet]

My first soul forming... 😅

[stoic tulip]

Does the Plymouth gun outclass the drake gun in every way?

[forest palm]

they are for different hull types

[calm junco]

Perfect, it stays as is then.
I haven't MLB'd them because I haven't had any problems so far but I'll do it right now haha ​​thanks everyone.

[stoic tulip]

Good point, I thought Plymouth was a heavy cruiser for some reason

Then who was the power creep version of drake?

[forest palm]

Hindenburg

[stoic tulip]

What's her best in slot gun?

[forest palm]

depends on what you're fighting

[viscid swift]

still Plymouth

better in pretty much all respects

[stoic tulip]

I'm about 12 prints away from a second drake gun copy, is it best to just hold on or even spend it on Plymouth gun?

[viscid swift]

you mean from the prototype shop?

[calm junco]

Yes, this is actually my second fleet, any recommendations for empty spaces?

[viscid swift]

don't would be my recc until you get to chapter 9, and drop Indianapolis

[soft raft]

ignoring the missing limit breaks, only Hood and Portland are good (Indinapolis is tragic doodoo and not even her sister can save her despite Portland's sister skill)

And tbh I'd prob swap Indiana and Hood around when you get around to doing a 2nd fleet

[viscid swift]

Blaster, Howe is quite good

[soft raft]

I said Hood not Howe

[forest palm]

"only x and y are good" so you're saying howe is bad by that statement alone

[soft raft]

oh that angle
i see what you mean
True Howe herself could work but dunno how well without her self buff active

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

the self buffs are just icing

[inner delta]

dont need self buff

[soft raft]

Ah

[candid bronze]

is the azur lane community tier list still alive? It's been a while since I last played and I just returned to get the ring and oath my mama

[forest palm]

it's there still updating

[candid bronze]

awesome! thanks. I mostly follow it for builds

[soft raft]

it's still being updated yes
as for the new event ships, dont expect the site to update to include them for a while

as for builds (or at least the vaugest outlines of one) you can just look at other ships with simillar setups in the meantime

[calm junco]

Well, I can choose one from each list. Or should I wait until I get to chapter 9 to make a decision?

[atomic abyss]

Wait till chap 9

[soft raft]

and as a side note, in terms of pratical use, only Enterprise, Hood, U96, Sandy, and Sirius (And Illustrious for W15 support fleet) are the only ones that'll see any form of long term use

Everyone else is essentially tech fodder

[little tree]

~~ RIP Sandy only fodder~~

[viscid swift]

You definitely can't choose one from each seeing as you're limited to 2 hull types max per month from the medal shop

[calm junco]

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks everyone.

[soft raft]

And sometimes you can end up being stuck with two of the same hulltype

So good luck getting Enty or Hood if your shop has somethin like double DD or double CA

[copper ermine]

how hard are crystal frsgments to get because i accidentally used 200 on one meta ship upgrade part and now cant finish the ship?

[wind hazel]

you'll get enough as long as you don't neglect opsi

[plain saffron]

Uhh isn't crystal fragment only gor meta shop

[soft raft]

just grind META fights on the reg and you'll build up a stockpile

they're for the META equivalent of enhancement

[soft raft]

they're also in OpSi port shops

[wind hazel]

cant you get them from the opsi monthly shop too? or am i hallucinating

[plain saffron]

Crystal is for LB and from cruise mission and meta fight

[wind hazel]

which crystal

[plain saffron]

Yes you can get them from weekly and opsi and extra dupes

[soft raft]

he's (probably) talking about their enhancement materials

[plain saffron]

I'm confused what does he means by crystal fragment on one meta ship and can't finish it

[wind hazel]

i guess everything still goes back to opsi

[warm condor]

Where do I get there 1200 TRP score for D1?
I wont make it but for future reference - is it a fleet comp thing?
I am at 9-1 in story btw. Can push further if I want to

Like do I need more ships that equip Torpedo?

[wind hazel]

it's more or less ship+gear

[plain saffron]

Use 2 fleet for easier time with reqs

[wind hazel]

mostly DD(mainly) and CL with trp

and some BC?

[copper ermine]

i mean i spent all 200 on the crane looking item used to upgrade kasumi metas reload and now cant buy the other material for her other stat

[soft raft]

use more DDs, TRP gear, and possibly even other ships that have TRP like a few BCs

[warm condor]

I did use 2 fleet , tried my best to get 2nd fleet to have torpedo equiping shipts, still at 800

[soft raft]

Then this #gameplay-help message is your answer

[wind hazel]

/reqhelp

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Hard_Mode_Req_Help.jpeg

[plain saffron]

Ouh the enhancement mats you can get from cruise mission, meta fight, opsi port shop

For that crystal fragment shop better to buy ship crystal or meta skill book

[wind hazel]

try and get that gold oxytorp from tech box if you can

[warm condor]

me?

[wind hazel]

yes, for future trp requirement

[warm condor]

Okay, thanks.

any bigger versiion of that image?

[finite crag]

open in browser and zoom in

[wind hazel]

if you're on mobile, download it

[exotic wren]

It's clear even in mobile tho

[rapid grail]

open in browser for both mobile and pc

[keen sable]

going to need to show your fleets and dock. earlier people could use kasumi meta

[fiery raptor]

has there been any judgement as to how eldridge's retrofit is?

[steady beacon]

Well, her defensive utility is certainly very useful in situations where one needs to mitigate extreme vanguard pressure

[fiery raptor]

wow currently t4, that's gonna big ask of the retrofit to put her t2 or higher

pilica, you thing she'll be able to roll with likes of laffey ii, otto and felix in w15?

or at the very least with the likes of jervis which feels like a huge ask either way

[slim vapor]

How do i view the returner stat again? tapped out and forgot to read it

[steady beacon]

W15? Probably
While not carry, I'm told, her AA output (since she now has AA2) is still good
She gets what is, in effect, an in-built Hedgehog, so her ASW is pretty good as well
Operation Rainbow's initial cooldown has been removed, so she doesn't have a lull period of 20s out of the gate, so she now kinda functions as a better JdA
All in all, I'd say she's another addition to the list of ships made for W15, if anything

[sweet delta]

difficult for her to roll with jervis

the rest of the fleet would have to be really good to carry jervis

[fiery raptor]

a better jda? so at least shecan relieve jda in her spot in the second w15 fleet

[slow fox]

If you put her with Jervis, you can have a 230% eHP destroyer

[sweet delta]

"jervis slander spotted"

[slow fox]

Nice try Person

[sweet delta]

huh what are you cooking for eldridge to double ehp

[slow fox]

She gives 10 * ( battletime mod 22 +1 ) invulnerability

So in an 87s battle, she gives 40s of invulnerability.

[sweet delta]

too high

[slow fox]

mod 23?

[sweet delta]

30 for 77 in wichitam is reasonable, but wichitam has near-constant sources of damage

[slow fox]

mod 30

[fluid brook]

whats mod 23/30?

[slow fox]

0

Oh whoops
I got nerdsniped

[sweet delta]

according to my 15 minutes of gameplay, 20 for 47 in chapter 15 mob may be reasonable or slightly generous

[slow fox]

Okay. Let's go with mod 25.

[sweet delta]

but whatabout partial procs

[steady beacon]

This is just the mathematics of remainders
Don't worry too much about it

[slow fox]

Blocked and ignored

[sweet delta]

what does +1 mean

[slow fox]

That's the initial proc

Which uhh I assume happens uhhhhhhhhh instantly

[sweet delta]

sometimes it happens instantly, sometimes it happens 25s into the battle

[slow fox]

solution is to have it happen 12.5s into battle.

[keen sable]

eldridge is pretty dodgy

[sweet delta]

her being main tank helps, being sandwich hurts

[steady beacon]

Good one

[slow fox]

Hmm. I'm not sure I would recommend her being main tank. She will simply DIE when skill offtime. Eld in offtank

[sweet delta]

using my good tech, gear, and ships, she can main tank w15 mob lethal auto

so i guess no for the average player

[slow fox]

Mob situation spotted

opinion discarded

[steady beacon]

[stark quiver]

by good tech u mean max?

close to max

[slow fox]

Suchiperson is maxmaxxing

[stark quiver]

tech maxxing

[slow fox]

Using this deliberation, eHP no longer is doubled

Only 1.5

[forest palm]

[sweet delta]

by partial procs, i mean the battle ends before 10s of invincibility. if T = 13.5, then this picture multipied by 10 gives 10 seconds of invincibility, but it should have been 1 second

[gusty olive]

Does Operation Rainbow+ still have CD?

[sweet delta]

it can proc at the beginning of battle after retrofit

and if T = 12.5, then it should be 0, not 10

although that's not the case in reality because rainbow can proc before 12.5 sometimes. Do you harmonic that kind of stuff?

[slow fox]

That was also my impression of partial procs. However, T < 60 is cringe.

Doing counting after mod 25 is possible, and then we'd get partial procs.

The harmonic mean accounts for ship states, and considers the uptime of those states.

Playing with the uptimes of those states is possible, and is ultimately a probabilistic approach.

Getting a good estimate of uptime per battle length is going to be such a problem.

[sweet delta]

so let's not care about T < 60, then what's the formula? It shouldn't have Floor in it?

[steady beacon]

It no longer has initial cooldown
But it retains 20s cooldown between procs (counted from moment of proc, so it has a minimum of ten seconds of effective downtime)

[slow fox]

If you want to go with partial procs, I'd do something straight up T/25 or something, instead of floor.

[sweet delta]

i learned about division in school

[slow fox]

floor(T/25) counts the full procs.

remainder(T/25) = rem(T/25) counts the time after the last proc.

floor(T/25) + rem(T/25) = T/25

[sweet delta]

what's rem

[gusty olive]

Basically, it can now proc even when the battle just started unlike before?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[sweet delta]

yes, but key word is "can"

[gusty olive]

Just like Helena's SG radar.

PRAISE BE THE SG RADAR (when it procs)

[steady beacon]

Just need to watch her roll badly for five seconds to watch her die in that amount of time

[slow fox]

Eldridge Gaming

[gusty olive]

Ark Royal for slow? Get that shii outta here, Eldridge for slow now

[slow fox]

Are you happy now

I have Eldridge invincible for 34.8 seconds on average, for an 87s battle

[rain bobcat]

is there a way to make soyuz alsace zwei fire in that same order instead of alsace last

ive already tried soy gun zwei flandre gun alsace both oathed and she still doesnt fire first unless I flag alsace

but then zwei is probably better to flag anyway

[stark quiver]

slap like a autoloader or fcr everyone else uses shells

[rain bobcat]

if i do that it wont make 4th shot on metas

i figured maybe fcr+loader alsace but I guess it loses too much dmg ig there isnt a way

[stark quiver]

which meta?

[steady beacon]

Difficult
But it is sometimes possible to force the order Soyuz --> Alsace --> Zwei from the second rotation onwards if their guns are Flan gun/Flan gun/Soyuz gun
I say "sometimes" because this can depend on RLD tech and Alsace being utterly random sometimes

[gusty olive]

Why Alsace first though? The dmg dealt increase?

[steady beacon]

Ye

[gusty olive]

Alternatively, use Brest as tank

[slow fox]

Mebot approved

[slow fox]

Eldridge now makes allied eHP 5/3

[rain bobcat]

yeah

i found that she reloads same time as zwei

so unless some rng or i flag her she wont fire first

[gusty olive]

No need to worry about timing if the dmg dealt increase lasts until the battle ends (if I remember how Alsace's skills work right that is)

[rain bobcat]

wouldnt that take atleast 3rd shot

or does brest main gun fire fast enuf I dont remember

[steady beacon]

Doesn't have to be just her CB mains
Her DD guns also count

[gusty olive]

It does?

[boreal wagon]

they do u can get the effect post first non peload

[rain bobcat]

TIL

[gusty olive]

Guess building Brest was a right call lol

[steady beacon]

[slow fox]

[gusty olive]

[forest palm]

[polar lion]

What does it mean?

[misty tree]

Farming 14-4 for New Orleans

[vale spindle]

do ships that drain hp from everyone trigger her skill

[slow fox]

Eldridge's invulnerability buffs should increase the survivability of the other vanguard ships by 166% .

If a ship survived 100 seconds in a battle, Eldridge should be able to help her to 166 seconds.

[coarse heron]

She’s that good?

[crimson glacier]

isnt that just 66%

[sweet delta]

[stone sluice]

What Eldridge retrofit does?
I just don’t get how it works

[vale spindle]

sadge

btw the wiki is updated with eldridge retrofit information because i added it manually

[vale spindle]

basically when she takes damage and triggers her blue skill, she makes the entire vanguard fleet invincible for 10s (skill has a 20s cooldown between activations)

[coarse heron]

Seems pretty straightforward to me: When Eldridge takes damage, 15% chance for vanguard to evade all attacks for 10 seconds

[stone sluice]

15% chance… sounds not like a big trouble…

But that vanguard I attacked on exercises was invincible for 10 secs, was I unlucky?

[crimson glacier]

i mean its always 10 sec when it procs

[steady beacon]

Remember, it rolls for every single hit
You can get hit dozens of times at any moment in PvP

Vanguard mains, BB secondaries, barrages, Laffey's drones, the list goes on

[crimson glacier]

yeah but it only rolls for hits not for evades

[stone sluice]

Makes sense

[crimson glacier]

and eldridge has insanely low max hp

[stone sluice]

Same as San Diego's 15% chance to buff AA

[polar lion]

Ooo, what about JdA equivalent of frontline eHP improvement from her shields? For comparison sake

[crimson glacier]

id expect jda to be better in pure survival

but eldridge atleast does some dmg too

[slow fox]

For Eldridge 166% eHP buff, JdA is at 130% eHP buff

[polar lion]

Wow moar than doubled JdA

[crimson glacier]

and i really doubt its that good in actual gameplay

[cobalt rapids]

isnt jda variable since her shield scales with her own hp instead?

[crimson glacier]

and if the shield doesnt break it will heal the user

and it will always proc on cooldown without any rng

[gusty olive]

Shit take: use both

[forest palm]

[steel grotto]

how should i go about sub fleets i only really have albacore, cavalla, u-47, and u-37 in terms of sr subs and i cant really spend any cubes on wishing well

[cobalt rapids]

use 47 37 and alba

or wait for 96 in medal rotation

[steel grotto]

if i do who should i swap out

[crimson glacier]

Us want to be together

[sweet merlin]

is eldrich wirt retoing

*worth

[cobalt rapids]

if u can afford it yes

[sweet merlin]

finnaly i have someone to replace uzen in pvp

[cobalt rapids]

uh ig but also #pvp if u want pvp teambuilding advice

[sweet merlin]

she is a perma pool right?

[crimson glacier]

she is only in pvp shop

[sweet merlin]

between her and that gold ss in the pvp shop who should i get first

[crimson glacier]

well do you even use subs

[sweet merlin]

planingtoo. just for passive dammage when they hit fleets in the area

[crimson glacier]

any sub is good enough for that

and imo thats so useless that it wastes more time than what it helps ever

[slow fox]

Yes - so I suppose it has higher effect for DDs - they'll probably receive the healing.

For CAs, they'll probably take it smh.

[abstract marsh]

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[tardy ginkgo]

Today I bought Eldridge, I wrote off my purchase currency, but it doesn't have it on my base.

[tame jungle]

do you perhaps have any filters enabled by accident? (top right button)

[tardy ginkgo]

Neither are not included, and the ship itself is marked as not a coupon.

[tame jungle]

maybe try restarting your game

[torn brook]

Fellas. Haven’t touched AL in a while and just came back to a whole event. There’s only a day left so I’m not expecting to get anything BUT what are the odds of at least being able to get 10k incident records for the exchange shop?

[pseudo stream]

I got it in 24h so it's possible

[tame jungle]

if you can clear all C and D maps i think that's roughly 8k?

[torn brook]

So finishing up the event stages and then a bit of reruns?

[pseudo stream]

Clear all maps, do ~ex~ (sp), use the 2x reward things and farm d3. Once morale is bad use a different fleet (I just swapped my mob/boss fleets)

[tame jungle]

SP* not EX :3

[pseudo stream]

oh yeah

[torn brook]

Thanks y’all, time to start grinding

[pseudo stream]

How should I be making opsi fleets? Currently I make a boss fleet (vanguard ,new jersey ,goergia, anchorage, helena, plymouth), a mob fleet (unicorn + good cvs and high level vanguard), and then just kind of throw the rest of my high level ships into the other two fleets. Trying to start actually doing opsi seriously and I don't want to have to switch ships later

[finite crag]

depends on who you have

[pseudo stream]

Is there any way to not prioritize ships in fleets so i can get a good screenshot?

[plain saffron]

Choose Secretary

[fiery raptor]

what is the more cost effective route to mk7, mk6->mk7 or mk-D-> mk7
i'm leaning towards conserving ur BP and just splurging on gold mats

[steady beacon]

Ye
MkD route is the more efficient

You only really take the Mk 6 route if you want to regain gold plates you once spent on the Mk 6 years ago

[sleek spade]

it's a lot of electronics tho. not a good trade at all imo

[atomic abyss]

Better than the rainbow ordinances...

[steady beacon]

Well, it depends on your interpretation of the relative value of electronics vs UR gun prints

[cobalt rapids]

its w12 but abit harder

[atomic abyss]

You need to hit AS at minimum

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ur fleets, could be doable

[fluid brook]

Might give it to Uni

[atomic abyss]

Uni or indep

[idle perch]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh i beat challenge hard mode

[inner delta]

is fine

[crimson glacier]

if you use her a lot

[candid bronze]

I'm nearing my 400 pity for a UR (383/400). I already have NJ, between Shinano and Shimakaze? Which one do you think will bring more value if I get them?

[wind hazel]

shinano

[crisp cairn]

Next event is Italian or Japanese?

[candid bronze]

Just for additional context, this is what my CV/DD situation looks like

[fluid brook]

Its expected to be Japanese, because of JP anni

[candid bronze]

thanks

oh oops sorry, accidentally clicked add friend

[crisp estuary]

[vernal edge]

Are guild operations closed now or its just my guild leader who is dead?

[remote yarrow]

Idk if this is true but I think it's limited to 2 per month? Or atleast that's what my guild always does

[vernal edge]

After boss no new op started

[atomic abyss]

It's 2 per month iirc

[cobalt rapids]

active guilds are long done with 2nd op by now

[remote yarrow]

So if you aren't done with your 2 monthly ops maybe consider changing guilds

[queen jackal]

what does the bar that fills up next to air carriers mean

[cobalt rapids]

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[queen jackal]

oh ty

[errant ivy]

could i get some help with making a second fleet? im currently about to start chapter 10! i can start a thread if that is better

[fluid brook]

Please start a thread

[remote yarrow]

sorted by level, leave out common and rare ships

[errant ivy]

please help me create a second fleet

[errant ivy]

oh shoot.. i just saw this but it's DEF out of order

[wide vigil]

Guys any tipes to new players?

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[jaunty vault]

read the in-game tips and complete tutorials

[wide vigil]

Im like lvl 30 already

(started 2 days ago)

[jaunty vault]

lvl 30 is like nothing

[wide vigil]

Thx 🫡

What about stuff like team comps?

[fathom sable]

Do NJ summer skin ever rerun?

[cobalt rapids]

most skins come back on blackfriday or on their reruns or when devs decide to

[cobalt rapids]

well what ships do u have, u can follow the template in the linked above

[wide vigil]

I was able to get Indiana and Pittsburg from the limited banner

[cobalt rapids]

mm then use indiana as ur offlag in the template fleet

[wide vigil]

Alreading doing that ofc 👍🏻

[cobalt rapids]

pitts can replace portland ig

[fathom sable]

When or on what date will it occur in this game?

[cobalt rapids]

blackfriday is sometime in november, reruns and devs whims is 🔮

[digital vault]

is there any hint yet of Musashi rerun?

[plain saffron]

Nope

[digital vault]

sadge

my desire to obtain her has increased after seeing that oath skin

[wide vigil]

What about the research accademy? Hindenburg and Admiral Nakhimov looks nice as chars

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research research takes alot of time to get usable ships, follow this for optimal strats

[mystic topaz]

does the core shop refresh with new gear each month, ie. new rainbow gear? new player here.

[cobalt rapids]

rainbow gear designs dont refresh

[plain saffron]

Which core

[mystic topaz]

either, i guess

trying to decide if i should spend the currency now or wait for a reset, if any

[cobalt rapids]

different shops have different prios check /coredata or /protocore

[subtle tinsel]

Which one ship to research?

[atomic abyss]

where are you at campaign wise currently?

ideally, you start with friederich de grosse or anchorage

[elfin hollow]

how many tech poins do u have?

[subtle tinsel]

8-1

[atomic abyss]

then research isn't a high priority, because the grind will be 🐌

[elfin hollow]

you can't do fdg

[subtle tinsel]

So i can take Any ship?

[atomic abyss]

no, ignore research SHIPS entirely till you reach w12

your priority should be to push campaign first
once you hit w12, you can do the exp grinding for research ships easily

[subtle tinsel]

Ok thx

[atomic abyss]

and after then, your priority is raising ironblood tech for friederich de grosse

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology

can refer to this

[quartz wyvern]

Probably been asked a million times but how is Sparky's retrofit?

[atomic abyss]

not a dps, not an actual tank, not much AA
her real purpose is a support and/or asw

[quartz wyvern]

Does the retro make her UR and what did she gain?

[cursive lark]

Wait what is sparky?

[fast plaza]

i thinking of replacing portland in my main fleet, who would you suggest i raise

[foggy chasm]

is slaimuda still good? or is there a better one

[frank pulsar]

probably san franciso, or you just go straight for anchorage from pr4

[fickle scarab]

Reccomend getting Anchorage from pr4

[frank pulsar]

its decent, there isnt a better one

[frank pulsar]

probably refering to eldridge

[fast plaza]

retro is that you

[cursive lark]

Lol I thought it was an actual ship names trash can on wheels

[fast plaza]

im still woring on tech point for fdg so i guess imma just raise san fran to 125 first for now

[fickle scarab]

120 works fine

[fast plaza]

alright then

[frank pulsar]

save the 125 for ship that worth it

[fast plaza]

surely unicorn and hood is worth it

[frank pulsar]

uni yes hood no

[cursive lark]

Hood nah, by the time you need her 125 you can't use her

[fast plaza]

its a done deal kinda thing

[worldly pewter]

it doesn't matter TBH arrays are plentiful if u do everything to get them

[fickle scarab]

It is what it is

[worldly pewter]

just speedrun to cmd 100

[fast plaza]

i still got 700 left its ok

[worldly pewter]

also i want to point out the missing enty and saratoga

[foggy chasm]

ok thamnks

[blazing herald]

For the Discord Bingo event, does just being in the discord count as participating

[fast plaza]

saratoga never drop, enty not in medal shop yet and i havent complete beginer mission

[finite crag]

how many help are there in the weekly pack?

[tame jungle]

10 right?

[finite crag]

sounds about right

[plain saffron]

when you participate you should get a gform from yostar messenger

iirc i got it from posting in throphy channel

[dawn crater]

Dont these used to give like 500 specialized cores?

[whole crypt]

not if you're already capped for the month

[dawn crater]

Ah fck its affected by cap

[cloud reef]

Is there a great way to just farm the necessary EXP for ship research? I FINALLY farmed enough tech points to get Hakuryuu, just need to grind now lol

[wind hazel]

12-1 or 12-4

[atomic abyss]

event d3, or better still, 12-1/4

[cloud reef]

I hope I can manage to reach d3

[worldly pewter]

if u managed to do 950 ijn tech points and u can't reach d3
something is going wrong somewhere

[whole crypt]

well it's a small event the coming week, I highly recommend pushing for ch12 whenever you have the time to

[cloud reef]

Tbf my Sakura fleet is relatively bad compared to my actual fleet, which is mostly Eagle

Since it's only Main Fleet, tho... I can let the Vanguard be my Eagle ones to make up for the lack of power lol

[worldly pewter]

[cloud reef]

Yeah, I'm stuck at chapter 8 currently, focusing on event mainly for the moment being

[worldly pewter]

forget about shipyard for a moment and focus on the event and then campaign progression

[cloud reef]

Oh yeah, I'm luckily done with shipyard in that sense! I'm just doing event and passively farm a bit of EXP for Hakuryuu lol

And the other steps to build her are time locked... sadly.

[worldly pewter]

don't do anything intentionally related to the shipyard progression
focus on the event then campaign as nntktt said when u reach w12 then start worrying about it

anything u do now in ur current stage will stall ur progression rather than help it

[cloud reef]

But my beautiful, beautiful Hakuryuu...

[worldly pewter]

i mean if u don't mind shooting urself on the foot go ahead

[cloud reef]

Getting Hakuryuu is never a shot to my foot

[worldly pewter]

u know better

[cloud reef]

But nah, I'll keep doing the stages. Got... not much else to do anyway lol

[whole crypt]

getting Hakuryuu isn't the problem, getting her into a usable state is

pls don't gif here

[cloud reef]

Whoops, sorry- But what do you mean? lol

[whole crypt]

a dev0 Hakuryuu is worse than a purple CV

(I didn't say blue because the only blue CV is Wasp and I'm not up for comparing that)

research ships need blueprints to be enhanced which replaces LB and enhancing from normal ships

[cloud reef]

I never really used the shipyard like that. What is a good level of dev for her?

[whole crypt]

if you don't have 513 prints to get her to dev30 she's going to be really meh

[cobalt rapids]

d25+ depending on ur dock

[whole crypt]

the absolute minimum she stops being bad is d25, which is 333 prints

[cloud reef]

oh well... I don't have nearly as much

I'm at 91, which is... Yeah.

And that's me counting the universal ones, too

At this point, I'm not even sure if you guys would recommend spending those on Hakuryuu

[cobalt rapids]

if they are season 4 its fine

[worldly pewter]

she has her own catchup

~~definitely not encouraging here ~~

[cloud reef]

Joke's on you, I'm already doing that!

[whole crypt]

nothing wrong with using Hakuryuu catch up

[quasi slate]

Ignore fleet power and levels, this a solid formation?

[whole crypt]

for what

because faction fleets are 🚮

[jaunty vault]

huh is that clem

[quasi slate]

OPS or just like even stages

[whole crypt]

golf clem

[quasi slate]

Yes :)

[whole crypt]

faction fleets are 🚮

[jaunty vault]

meh its alright, wouldn't personally use it

[quasi slate]

Gotcha

[whole crypt]

no carriers if campaign or whatnot

[jaunty glade]

https://i.imgur.com/wG2jnsY.png are these campaign quests / mandatory?

[whole crypt]

no but if you don't do them they can get in the way of auto

[jaunty glade]

i can't clear them because of high corrision

[whole crypt]

come back when you have higher levels

[sleek spade]

But both are valuable cus they time lock it

Is indiana worth getting or save cube for UR soon tm? I got 840 cubes

[steady beacon]

I'd be inclined to save, even with that good reserve
She's good, but gold
In a world saturated to breaking point with UR BBs

[steady beacon]

Tbh, if you're @undone plover , you probably can fish like 20 electronics from cat spots in a few days

[keen sable]

Get everyone if you want everyone

[sleek spade]

Brah what kinda luck is that

[sleek spade]

Mmm fair. I’ll save then. Prolly will be another UR BB next month or something.

[steady beacon]

Doesn't help that she had to choose
The worst SoDak tech
For her 120 tech

This is going to get me bonked by suchi later

[atomic abyss]

and yet she's the best of them

i think she's only second to owari and maybe izumo aug?

[wet prairie]

How good is eldritch kai?

[atomic abyss]

assuming you mean eldridge and not some lovecraftian monstrosity

[atomic abyss]

not a dps, not a great tank, not great at AA
best used as a tank and slow support, and for ASW

[wet prairie]

Not a great tank, best used as tank

Also damn 2 AA slots and still mediocre AA

[atomic abyss]

AA eff sucks
and she's still gonna be sandwiched probably

[wet prairie]

That was a waste of 20k merit

[atomic abyss]

i'd treat her like jeanne

[wet prairie]

Isn’t jean a more consistent

[atomic abyss]

far less potent

[wet prairie]

Hmm ok

So still like tier 1-2?

[atomic abyss]

she's currently used for michita, for example

JdA is T1
I'd argue T0

low end T0 or high end T1

[civic crag]

What does FdG FS do

[wet prairie]

More consistent barrage

[atomic abyss]

doesn't need to be flag

[wet prairie]

And more damage overall

[civic crag]

Bro it’s gonna take me 5 months to get her to FS5

[atomic abyss]

why tho

[civic crag]

I’m legit not sure how many coins I can pour in everyday

[atomic abyss]

it should be faster than raising fdg herself

[forest palm]

fleet power is a garbage statistic in this game, and is not indicative of a fleet's actual strength

[civic crag]

Huh I alr have her at level almost 100?

[keen sable]

Took me 6

[atomic abyss]

*dev 30-ing fdg

[civic crag]

Oh yeah ofc but it’s around the same bp

[atomic abyss]

it's not though

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[civic crag]

Like 5 months as in dev30 and fs5

[atomic abyss]

215 and 512 is VERY different

[steady beacon]

Potentially, ye
Although, granted, best SoDak is not a high bar

[civic crag]

Oh mb I saw 400 cause I forgot I alr put in 100bp

[forest palm]

AL, and Mass are pretty good, it's just SoDak that's on the low end

[steady beacon]

But she does definitely seem a very high standard for SR BB
Even if that's no longer a bar when there are too many rainbow BBs to even keep track of

[civic crag]

I don’t like this bp shit bruh it’s gonna take me about 20 times the time to raise FdG compared to b2

[steady beacon]

Welcome to PR research

[forest palm]

builds character, toughens you up

[dusk dirge]

For a Boss fleet, Should Soyuz or Alsace join Vanguard and BZ?

[forest palm]

just take Soyuz

[atomic abyss]

take soyuz, yeet alsace to mob

[dusk dirge]

Is Alsace better than FDG in mob?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[dusk dirge]

Perfect. I’ll go waifu

[reef flume]

Alsace is better in boss since her debuff is casual

It works better on a single target

[civic crag]

I don’t understand what Alsace’s kit is

[whole crypt]

preload

[atomic abyss]

opsi bosses, not campaign bosses

[reef flume]

I use her for both

[civic crag]

So like she’s a super powercrept warspite?

[atomic abyss]

warspite doesn't even have preload

[whole crypt]

Warspite doesn't have preload

[atomic abyss]

a buffed/UR richelieu

[whole crypt]

imagine any other UR BB, but with the perk of being able to shoot right at the start

[civic crag]

Damn that’s wild

Oh yeah warspite just has divine mm is that skill even good

[plain saffron]

in reality not really

[atomic abyss]

in PvP yes
other than that almost never

[dusk dirge]

Is Alsace worth using with a French ship, or does she not need it?

My mob is Kront/Hinden/Unzen

[reef flume]

More like a buffed UR Flandre

[atomic abyss]

doesn't need french

[forest palm]

no French needed

[civic crag]

Which skill is FdG’s strongest skill

[whole crypt]

all of them

[reef flume]

It's useful only to make her debuff last til the battle ends which is cool but not necessary

[civic crag]

what shld I upgrade first

[whole crypt]

doesn't matter

[dusk dirge]

Good point. mob battles never last that long

[civic crag]

I can’t go for ply/hakuryuu/drake/azuma, who do I dev now

[reef flume]

It's situational tbh

[forest palm]

if it's ops mobbing, it's hardly "situational"

just unga

[dusk dirge]

My aim for opsi mobbing is to kill as fast as possible to make it move faster

[eager mulch]

not even bunga? just unga?

[forest palm]

I just made a mob fleet that takes care of everything that isn't arbiter

[civic crag]

How many maxxed BBs and CVs respectively do I need to beat harbiter

[whole crypt]

OS mob fights last like 15s

[forest palm]

as long as you use decent ships, it's all down to gear

[finite crag]

what ships are you using

[dusk dirge]

TOO LONG!

[whole crypt]

if you have something faster you're free to share, and for the record bullet time also counts

[forest palm]

Musashi + NJ + Percy + Kron + Hinden + Unzen

[eager mulch]

Alsace, richy, jb backline trust

[finite crag]

nj 457?

[forest palm]

I couldn't care about fast clear times since I don't pay attention to the screen since I'm working, or playing other gacha when I do auto ops

[whole crypt]

I'm one of those weirdos with strongholds and hidden because I max subs

[dusk dirge]

Unicorn + FDG + Independence + Kron + Hinden + Unzen

With the Uni and Unzen preloads the first to waves are gone in about 3 seconds.

[forest palm]

actually I use the 406/50 on NJ, probably would work out better with a 457

[finite crag]

thank you im copying that

[whole crypt]

the first wave is dead in 3 seconds that's normal

[dusk dirge]

The fun is getting the second wave killed right after

[whole crypt]

does FdG get to shoot

[dusk dirge]

Not really. Will move to Alsace for more alpha strike

[whole crypt]

Alsace is slow

[dusk dirge]

She has a preload

[whole crypt]

you waste 2s on preload bullet time

like I said I count bullet time too

just because your timer stops at 2:47 doesn't mean you actually finished 2s earlier

[forest palm]

sweating over seconds

[worldly pewter]

10 prints a day

[whole crypt]

well I don't care when it's C5 spamming but I do when I'm clearing C4-C6, stronghold and hidden because I do it by hand and refresh subs

actually I can probably start ditching C4s

[plain saffron]

does the aux in core data ltd shop count what you have and not how many times you've bought it?

thanks

[whole crypt]

so I can scrap my zflags and get new ones?

[plain saffron]

looks like it

[keen sable]

Would you test it please? im sure it will be fine

[whole crypt]

after this round of B1 sure

[keen sable]

If that +10 zflag on ex is bothering you...

[whole crypt]

it's not like I'll be using 3 zflags at once so scrapping 1 is fine I guess even if I can't get it back

or I can treat this as an aux plate conversion from cores

I have more core data than aux plates time to balance that number

[plain saffron]

unlimited aux plate glitch(core data income is unlimited until game eos)

[whole crypt]

do we really want to go back to that topic
aux plates also unlimited until game eos

[keen sable]

Wait it will make infinite gold parts also

[lone knoll]

what use do "zombie fleets" have ? aside from not dying easilly

[cobalt rapids]

zombie fleets arent a thing

[stark quiver]

I think they’re a term for like low oil fleets

[tame jungle]

Cassin downes phoenix?

[lone knoll]

yeah

[tame jungle]

Don’t think they’re really relevant anymore lmao

[lone knoll]

this one I think its a zombie aswell

[river junco]

Don’t zombies refer to ships that have skills that keep them from dying for a few secs? Or am I mixing it up with something else?

[lone knoll]

I think it has to do with ships who have skills that restore hp

max is 15%

[forest palm]

they all aren't sustainable enough, nor viable

[lone knoll]

okay so I can just forget them

[cobalt rapids]

definetly

[whole crypt]

so 1500 cores for 1 aux plate and 36 coins

and I just realized the ltd shop actually doesn't list by how many you can buy, it's listing how many you have out of the limit

[plain saffron]

yeah

and they still didn't fix skin being in monthly shop

[river junco]

Is Laffey ii a zombie? (Forgot to wipe reply sorry for the ping)

[whole crypt]

technically yes but not that it matters

[quasi slate]

Good to know

[storm heron]

cat like this is bad even though it has 3 rainbow skills?