gameplay-help

[eager mulch]

maybe

very expensive

[rapid grail]

later campaign clearing, yes

if you can't get her to retrofit yet, at least get the retrofit gear. You'll want it

[hazy marten]

then gonna do it

i was wondering how she compares to yuudachi retro, since there was a similar gimmick with event item

[stark quiver]

shes better

[rapid grail]

eld retro's damage is pretty middling (not sure on this) but her utility w/ alright aa, great asw AND her invuln skill is way superior

[hazy marten]

ye thats what i figured, less dps more util

[viscid swift]

She's more akin to Jeanne D'Arc than she is Yuudachi

[finite crag]

how many la9 prints should one be at now

[forest palm]

kind of hard to gauge that

[finite crag]

then how many are you at

[forest palm]

20

I know people have more

[candid meteor]

i know someone in gph was at 35 a couple days ago

[wind hazel]

i remember someone had only 5

[finite crag]

damn

[forest palm]

this is why I said it's hard to gauge, because it's RNG, so there's a wide variance

[finite crag]

5 is probably just not playing though

[wind hazel]

5~35

[worldly pewter]

yeah i think even the coobers are having more than that

[forest palm]

I have 20 not from a lack of trying that's for sure

[finite crag]

have you spent blanks

[forest palm]

mhm

all on Bayard, and Nyak

[finite crag]

i see

[worldly pewter]

any reason why u stop at a multiple of 5 ?

[forest palm]

easier for me to count

[wind hazel]

i just enhance everything 🫃🏼

[candid meteor]

dam ur at 200 nyak already?

[eager mulch]

maybe he has nyak in wows too

[frank pulsar]

im at 21, but i focus ships and im pretty lazy
people with gear focus should have a good amount more

[forest palm]

Nyak, and Bayard are as high as they are because they were naturally that high before I used prints, so because they were higher they got the prints, so they're where they are because of that mentality

[blissful hamlet]

What does fargo drone aux do?

[eager mulch]

fp aux

[forest palm]

useless is what it is

[eager mulch]

also hard mode for ex but who cares

[true latch]

what is this

[forest palm]

free shit, and a premium pass

[true latch]

bet

[forest palm]

I don't know actually about the 2nd, and 3rd rows, but the first is 1st shit

[coarse heron]

Free shit for coming back to the game

[brave vortex]

What should i spend the most on gems for early player

[worldly pewter]

#bot-spam

[brave vortex]

Ty

[eager mulch]

That’s an outdated guide don’t follow that

[wind hazel]

careful following the gem command

[brave vortex]

Ouh

[wind hazel]

where's that cheeky spreadsheet

[eager mulch]

Cheeky sheet is just 3rd dorm slot + 2nd dorm floor + the rest on dock space

[brave vortex]

So i expand my dock space after doing that

[eager mulch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/13KVOhAOz9wwZK0gQON0PLJrDkPEp6vg66Fh8U2LoYG4/mobilebasic

[brave vortex]

Ight tyy

[worldly pewter]

wait wtf what is that guide

i did read it now so bad who wrote it

tell the mods to delete it now

[stark quiver]

cheeky guide prolly
the great text wall

[eager mulch]

mods said no

[worldly pewter]

[stark quiver]

whats wrong with it?

[keen sable]

hates second floor i think is the main issue

[forest palm]

I still don't get why mods don't purge that gem cmd

it's why that doc exists

[eager mulch]

the people’s /gems command

[wind hazel]

tbh even the doc should be edited

[stark quiver]

its an option
oh look cheeky has arrived

[viscid swift]

Wasn't it Ren that wrote the command originally?

[eager mulch]

It’s cheeky, most of his messages should be/are edited some way

[viscid swift]

Anyway we've lobbied countless times for it to be changed and every time it has been refused

[worldly pewter]

[forest palm]

[viscid swift]

Frankly rather unreasonably so might I add

[frank pulsar]

they shouldve purged it, its the reason why ive wasted gems on 3 dorm slot and third academy slot

[wind hazel]

ye i got 3rd academy slot as well

iirc it was different back then, this one is already revised, but still kinda iffy

[frank pulsar]

if they're not gonna purge it the only thing we can do is tell people to avoid it

[viscid swift]

I should probably do another round of revisions

[vale spindle]

omegalilwoo

[worldly pewter]

i almost inted into guiding someone to follow it just now

[viscid swift]

The first one was meant to just correct the existing reccs as is and no more

[vale spindle]

if the new set of recs is larger than the existing command i am not in favor

[viscid swift]

It basically just boils down to

Get the 3rd dorm slot and 2nd floor spend the rest on dock space

[eager mulch]

literally just 3rd dorm slot, 2nd floor, dock space

[worldly pewter]

what a reply
i can't comment more than this

[viscid swift]

Purge everything else

[desert tapir]

So the lalafell I call a friend wants to know which girl among his fleet these should be attached to... I'm tired so I figirgued I would post it here and just copy past an answer if someone is will to help me skip working. Images are ordered guns then ships.
They would honestly perfer only IB, because they wont stop useing faction fleets despite my complaints

[eager mulch]

305 on cb he using, 234 on ca he using

[wind hazel]

agir, hindenburg. tell your friend IB sucks

[eager mulch]

hinderburg

[wind hazel]

hamburger

[worldly pewter]

if he is in iron blood tell him to not use other faction weapons too

[desert tapir]

If they listened to me Abdou do you think they would be useing faction fleets?

[worldly pewter]

then ur friend is having massive understanding abilities issues

[whole crypt]

if they want to use faction fleets just let them, why bother with recommendations

use what you want, come back when you're sick of the roadblock

[worldly pewter]

if someone wants to use only german ships why will they use other faction weapons
it doesn't align logically

[whole crypt]

most people don't bother until realizing they're actively hampering their own gameplay and gets sick of it

[desert tapir]

They understand just fine. They are here to play the game as casually as possible and chase pretty artwork.

Is it frustrating when they ask me for help knowing they will ignore me so they can play their way? YES

But they are no less intelligent for it... just stubborn.

[whole crypt]

the fact is people will play the game the way they want to, just let them be until they're stuck

[wind hazel]

as long as they are happy 👍🏼

[worldly pewter]

well everyone is free how they want to play . . .

even if it is with the most illogical way

[wind hazel]

i like how you pretend to agree, but still wanna rub that last one in

[brave vortex]

Who should i put on my dorm?

[finite crag]

abdou's word is law

[wind hazel]

ships that you are grinding with. if those are taken care off, ship that you want to level, like sirius

[whole crypt]

whoever you're using to grind

[brave vortex]

Ight

[worldly pewter]

why only vanguards ?
the game won't let u do a sortie at least u need 1 main ship

[wind hazel]

maybe read what he was asking

[desert tapir]

...the guns are CB and CA and I'm too tired at at 1 in the morning to recall which BB or BC can take these guns as sub weapons or benifit?

[wind hazel]

no, he's being stupid.

Agir and Hindenburg, move on.

[brave vortex]

And is there any super rare ship that should i priorities?

[desert tapir]

Thank you Mori

[wind hazel]

if you are new, it's mainly enterprise/hood

[worldly pewter]

did u call me stupid because i didn't understand the question or i didn't even see it ?

[wind hazel]

you'll get them later, one way or another, so save the gold bulin, ignore the rest

[wind hazel]

yes im calling you stupid despite reading the question and conversing like you understood it

[brave vortex]

Ouhhh, ight ty

[wind hazel]

and inserting your own perspective that nobody asked for

[desert tapir]

... They just sent me a message stating this was already on Hindenburg.
I'm just tell em to leave it there... thats not bad advice right?

[finite crag]

yea thats fine upgrade it though

[desert tapir]

Thank you funky

[finite crag]

no problem Tsume (filthy casual) Hexed

[worldly pewter]

i understood the word attached as
emotionally attached to the ships
not the gear being equipped on them

english is my 3rd or 4th language

usually i can't understand not straightforward meanings

[wind hazel]

english is my 3rd language too. but that's not a reason to insert your gameplay perspective onto others while being zero help at all to the question and being demeaning to them

[viscid swift]

Might wanna give that a read BTW
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[brave vortex]

Ight ty very much

[viscid swift]

If I may offer some advice

You fucked up in your interpretation and response to the question

It is better to realize you made a mistake, take the L, and move on rather than digging in and defending a losing position

[worldly pewter]

yeah i made a mistake

[fast plaza]

should i raise my main team to 125 or should i leave them at 120 and raise better ships to 125 ?

[viscid swift]

Be selective in who you 125

120 vs 125 will not be noticeable for most content in this game and arrays are pretty time gated

[candid meteor]

keep team at 120 and only 125 if you really need it like harbiter or w15 for a few examples

[fast plaza]

ok i'd only 125 unicorn then thanks guys

[sweet delta]

Helena is fine if your next worthwhile 120 will take a while

array unicorn just in time for zuihou to power creep next week

[little tree]

is it fine to take H Reasearch if i have 550 Cubes to help Speed up agir?

and haku

[stark quiver]

i wouldnt do it

[urban grail]

How's eldridge kai

[plain saffron]

very useful

[stark quiver]

100% worth to raise for endgame content?

[sharp socket]

is the best bb fleet vanguard agir helena ply

[stark quiver]

depends on boss
but yea id use that for general stuff

[sharp socket]

then for cv its tank kazagumo sirius?

[stark quiver]

yea
usually guam

[steady beacon]

Assuming your ARA doesn't reside in the backline, ye that's pretty standard
Although variations possible, of course

[sharp socket]

whats ARA

[steady beacon]

Air Raid Assistance (which is what Kazagumo provides)

Also one of Atago's favourite words, but that's another story

[sharp socket]

my planned cv fleet doesnt have ARA in backline so i think im good

[steady beacon]

There is only one ship currently that can do that at present, in any event
And I don't think you have her yet

[sharp socket]

guess ill put ancho as cv fleet tank

[stark quiver]

casablanca?
@steady beacon

[steady beacon]

Kear

[stark quiver]

huh

[sharp socket]

are kaza and sirius squishy

[steady beacon]

Casablanca is Supporting Wings

[stark quiver]

pretty
so you wouldnt use them for like long ass battles

[sharp socket]

what about harbiter

[stark quiver]

exactly for harbiter

[steady beacon]

HArbiter is fine
Sirius is also expendable
Since her skill doesn't disappear if she sinks

[sharp socket]

oh thats great

[steady beacon]

Kaza is more difficult, but well...
It can be done

Stick her into centre with defensive auxes
She typically can make it to the end, or at least close

[sharp socket]

if the enemy is dd/cl would i swap either of them out for aurora?

[steady beacon]

(If RNG doesn't hate you too much)

[stark quiver]

for bb fleet

[steady beacon]

Can if you want
Although Sirius provides half the evasion rate debuff of Aurora as-is, so you don't have to
Ye, you can slot her into BB fleet over Helena

[sharp socket]

ah ok

+aurora -d20-25 ply or -helena for bb fleet

[stark quiver]

i kinda run 3 damage ships n shit on bb fleet
cuz i cant sync helena with 16 sec rld

[stark quiver]

before d30 ply will only be a bb buffer

[sharp socket]

yeah but the bb buffer is still pretty big isnt it

[stark quiver]

some1 answer that pls
i have no clue

[whole crypt]

how far before d30 though

[sharp socket]

ill probably have her at d25 by the time i build and level her

[steady beacon]

Dev 25 should be fine

[sharp socket]

i am cubing pr5 so it shouldnt take that long

[steady beacon]

I think Ren said yesterday something like
Helena-level personal (ngl, I expected it'd be higher, but that's still OK )
And the BB buff is still in full effect, so her effective damage will still probably be the highest in your vanguard regardless

[stark quiver]

crazy

[whole crypt]

she'll be better than most other vanguard options by 25

[sharp socket]

cause im in the situation of having 3 good (de)buffers but only 2 slots to put them in

[whole crypt]

personal damage will depend on availability of q152s but if you don't have one for her then you won't have one for a different CL anyway

[sharp socket]

i do have a q152

[sweet delta]

regarding the original question, aurora and helena aren't most other vanguard options

[sharp socket]

i dont have 2 but i can pull out a 155kai or nepgun from someone

[whole crypt]

I'd say for BBs you'd be going something like Agir/Ply+(Helena/Aurora)

you could replace Helena with something that hits medium/heavy hard if you don't like the RNG

[sharp socket]

so ply > helena = aurora (vs dd/cl) ?

[whole crypt]

Helena herself doesn't do much it's an RNG thing

Aurora helps much more when dealing with EVA

[forest palm]

I'd just stick to Helena, or Hindenburg, rather than slotting Aurora for just 2 Hull Types

[sweet delta]

dev 25 ply is last unless you need the somewhat tankiness

[whole crypt]

but that assessment is based on d30 Plymouth so if you using lower

[sharp socket]

i will look at DR6+ in 6+ months

im just trying to find a viable not copium reason to consider building aurora

[late flame]

antilight cv 😛

[whole crypt]

well it's mostly Temeperance or the next time we get a CL META

[sweet delta]

she's pretty much the best ship against most DD/CLs. Idk if that's a not copium reason

[sharp socket]

the copium is that im not sure if niche ships/comps will perform better than regular meta fleets

[whole crypt]

yes?

they always do, because they're tailored for what they're tackling

"regular meta fleets" is just when you're lazy and don't mind when shit doesn't oenshot

to be fair I might not bother to bring Aurora to a campaign DD/CL boss

but OS and showdowns she's very much up there

[sharp socket]

it also seemed like aurora is very niche even for a niche chara cause she contributes only debuff to eva for 2 hulltype so i wasnt sure about how good she was

[forest palm]

way I see it you create an anti light specific team, meta that requires her, or CM outside of that you won't need her for much else

[steady beacon]

Here it kinda depends on what you mean by a "regular meta fleet"
Like, for the targets she works against, she is a member of all "regular meta fleets" for that boss (e.g. JintM, KirovM [although lesser usage compared to JintM due to certain mechanical reasons that could be exploited better by others], and a couple of CMs)

[forest palm]

so in a way her use case is fringe

[sharp socket]

hmm i think i understand better now, ill just put her as a low priority then but not (near) useless

[plain saffron]

any EX auto fleet?

[whole crypt]

if anything I'd say level her first then pull her out for use whenever you run into a boss that can use her

not that expensive to raise as a purple anyway

[sweet delta]

any regular meta fleet

[plain saffron]

uhh what is regular meta fleet i haven't do EX for years

i'll go use my triple kms bb i guess

HE or AP

[coarse heron]

Yes

[plain saffron]

thank you i'll go use my HEAP

[whole crypt]

stacking rainbow BB works for this EX as long as you don't use fargo drone

(it worked for the last 2 EXes anyway if you didn't hit up challenge mode)

[stark quiver]

heavy armor

[worldly pewter]

down for a smol test as we did with haku or has it been done ?

[sharp socket]

i have other things at a higher priority to level, namely juneau for pvp, mog cause UR and jda to 125

i can put in aurora over jda when shes finished while kaza and sirius wait for purins

[steady beacon]

Can if you feel like it
But not as interesting imo as Haku
Since Haku's whole thing is damage

[stark quiver]

pvp meta?

[steady beacon]

Well, Juneau's cheap tbf

[late flame]

i has juneau at 125 and i never used her in pvp
then again i cbf with aotn so..

[worldly pewter]

i always see ply's damage and tell that it is really very high that is why

[whole crypt]

Juneau's a blue what are you even lacking to raise them

I personally don't think JdA has any priority for anything but that's just me

[sharp socket]

might use her for 15, and will probably use for 13h

[steady beacon]

You aren't obliged to use Juneau tbf, even if you want to EoS

[sweet delta]

friendship broken with jda
🤝

[sharp socket]

oh aurora is british so ill use her anyway + sirius when farming for ply

[whole crypt]

but yeh Juneau isn't needed for PvP, she's just one of a couple of ships you might want to be more consistent in winning matches

word is might

[late flame]

and putting up salty pvp defence

[steady beacon]

[worldly pewter]

[whole crypt]

Eldridge even saltier now but I guess you can use both

[sharp socket]

aotn sounds cool so i wanna reach it if i can

[whole crypt]

reaching admiral is easy, it's only troublesome if you want to keep admiral for end of season

[steady beacon]

Not difficult
As long as you don't overcap

Well
If you lightly bag, you can probably drop like two full sets, actually

[stark quiver]

i didnt get aotn

[civic crag]

Who are the top vanguards in damage

[sharp socket]

i forgor to pvp for 3 days so ill wait for next season

[frosty dune]

just dont lose and always attack someone with a higher position

[stark quiver]

plymouth

[plain saffron]

is it plymouth

[whole crypt]

for?

[civic crag]

Is there a list

[late flame]

nah if i wanted to be salty i'd just check pinned in #pvp

[civic crag]

Boss fights

[plain saffron]

isn't hinden higher or something

[whole crypt]

which boss

[civic crag]

Abyssal

[whole crypt]

which abyssal

[worldly pewter]

is this commission worth ?

[sharp socket]

where does tai yuan reside compared to ply and hinden

[plain saffron]

depend on the boss and fleet using top vg dmg might be not good

[civic crag]

Enforcer XIII determination

[stark quiver]

no take cube

[whole crypt]

determination is which one again...

[late flame]

always go for oil/cubes

[steady beacon]

The CA

[whole crypt]

... actually why does it matter, you can't change ships once you're in an abyssal

[stark quiver]

also 90% of the time theres no fucking ship

also abyssal can be blasted by adapts

[civic crag]

Ok then in general what’s the highest damage vanguard

[frosty dune]

maybe if you can sleep for 12 hrs

[civic crag]

My adapts are only around 150 is that bad

[whole crypt]

abyssals just bring something like this

[plain saffron]

depends on what lvl abyss

[sharp socket]

go grind your opsi

[worldly pewter]

i sleep for 5h usually

[stark quiver]

thats not rly good

[whole crypt]

I fight my abyssals with mob fleet though

[sharp socket]

iirc c6 abyssal is like 180+ adapts to be max debuff

[civic crag]

Ok

[civic crag]

Can I use sandykai instead of ply

[steady beacon]

Dymaxion Dynamo

[whole crypt]

well it only depends to the extent that lower level abyssals don't need optimising, not that you need a different comp for stronger ones

[plain saffron]

maybe helena instead

[whole crypt]

I suggest you just start a thread to get help building a boss fleet

[civic crag]

Okay

[steady beacon]

Tbf do you even need to hard bag on Sandy?
There are like 8 baggers, not all of whom even play every season
You can just slip into EoS by not overcapping probably

[civic crag]

OpSi boss fleet

[abstract latch]

Any of these worth crafting n upgrading?

[stark quiver]

bottom right and top right

[abstract latch]

Ok, thank u

[plain saffron]

and this

only until +10 though for this

[civic crag]

Is triple 152 Mk XXV a good CL gun

[queen jackal]

what does the drone from fargos gear do it doesnt drop cargo and just flies away

[sweet delta]

it does a little damage and AA, basically nothing besides the stats from the aux itself

[forest palm]

basically exists as a stat stick for BB at this point, and is over priced in gear lab

[civic crag]

So what is the best non rainbow cl gun

[frank pulsar]

the french triple 152

[forest palm]

easiest one to get is the 155 Kai

[civic crag]

I have 3 of them so I’m looking for an upgrade

[plain saffron]

that's already the upgrade

[frank pulsar]

it alrdy one of the best gold cl guns rn

[forest palm]

anything more would be the Quad 152

[plain saffron]

other than that it's the UR gun

[civic crag]

Oh Fr

[frank pulsar]

im for real real

[sturdy badger]

These 2 AA gun worth building?

[forest palm]

most certainly not

[late flame]

no lol

[sturdy badger]

DAmn

[keen sable]

top no.

[forest palm]

look for the Twin 90 mm

[sturdy badger]

Good I asked

[sharp socket]

should i get a 4th 155kai for helena or make more flapjacks currently have 2

and 1 tigercat

[civic crag]

Should I +13 it?

[sweet delta]

not 155 kai

[forest palm]

do not

[whole crypt]

at that point you probably want to just wait for q152s

[sweet delta]

not 155 kai to you too

[civic crag]

Ok

[whole crypt]

Sandy doesn't want a CL gun

[sweet delta]

how about oxytorp?

[forest palm]

also give Sandy a 114, or 100 Kai

[keen sable]

that's garbage

[civic crag]

She don’t?

[sweet delta]

fr she dont

[civic crag]

Why

[forest palm]

DD guns are better than CL guns is the short of it

[whole crypt]

almost all vanguard ships that can use a DD gun over a CL gun will want a DD gun

[keen sable]

history says so

[civic crag]

This instead?

[sweet delta]

if you pay attention to her skill, she does an extra barrage every time the main guns fire

[forest palm]

that works

[civic crag]

Oh yeah I just realised dd guns fire more

[copper ermine]

so ive yet to make a shipyard ship and i cant make izumo because i dont have 10 sakura empire main fleet ships so who else should i make, neptune or roon?

[civic crag]

So do I +13 that then

[frank pulsar]

roon

[sharp socket]

have u +13 your champy guns

[whole crypt]

and yes replace oxytorp with an evasion aux if you're keeping damage control on her

[civic crag]

Which of these here is the best for NJ secondary

[whole crypt]

not for the cost, just forget about +13ing gear before you sort out what gear to be using

[civic crag]

I don’t have any +13 at all

[frank pulsar]

the twin 120 there iirc

[civic crag]

Oh ok like rudder aux?

[sharp socket]

then +13 your champagne/soyuz gun for your bbs first

[civic crag]

I don’t have the champ/soyuz gun

[sharp socket]

then get them

[forest palm]

406/50, and 406 Mk1 respectively

[whole crypt]

and Sandy probably doesn't want the damage control since she's not going to be in your OS/META boss fleet

give it to Laffey II

[civic crag]

Where

[sharp socket]

champagne gun in protocore pr3, or gearlab but i think people reco protocore

[civic crag]

The double barrel one?

[whole crypt]

triple, from the gold PR3 prints

[civic crag]

Ok lemme go find that

[whole crypt]

buy this from proto core shop then change them to the gun prints

[sharp socket]

that one above

[civic crag]

This thing?

[whole crypt]

but looks like you don't have proto cores so just hang on to it

[fresh tangle]

Fargo is “meh” at best to common CLs recommended right?

[civic crag]

Ok well I’m out of packs and blueprints to analyse so I’ll just wait

Uh where do I get rudder again

[steady beacon]

Gold gun CL
Depends on who you're comparing her to
But she's fine enough within that category

[finite crag]

research drops rudder

[civic crag]

Which PR

[finite crag]

any

[civic crag]

Ok time to wait

[steady beacon]

Oh, if she's not MLB keep what you have
If you can LB her with dropped dupes, fine, but I wouldn't commit gold bulins to her at your stage (which would probably go to JdA over her anyway)

[crimson glacier]

she is just part of those ships that are good enough for most stuff and are completely useless for anything serious

[thorn tartan]

what's the opsi arbitor armor this month?

[stark quiver]

medium

[worldly pewter]

heavy i think

hermit afaik this month

[stark quiver]

isnt this month strength.....

[worldly pewter]

i was helping someone yesterday and he was fighting hermit

[thorn tartan]

she's dark skinned with a tail

[fast plaza]

when you use max lvl ships, do the exp just go to waste?

[stark quiver]

yea strength medium

[worldly pewter]

that is strengh

[plain saffron]

1st time is hermit

[stark quiver]

for what

[fresh tangle]

What I’m hearing is MLB JdA next 😂

[plain saffron]

they accumulate until 3 mill, and even if they get 0 exp the exp still count for lecture hall and pr grind

[fast plaza]

like if i use lvl 120 or 125 ships to farm d3 for example

[plain saffron]

it's kinda a waste yeah

[steady beacon]

Yep
At least of those CLs
Idk what other golds you have that might potentially have even greater priority

[stark quiver]

yea

[fast plaza]

hmm but i dont have a choice since lower lvl ship cant even start d3 in the first place

it is what it is i guess

[fresh tangle]

Dunno I should probably MLB stuff for Sakura tech tbh

[vernal osprey]

How prepared should you be to defeat Chapter 14 with all Ships surviving?

[plain saffron]

exp pack them until 80+

[worldly pewter]

what is this challenge ?

sinking ships will make u lose moral and some exp

[plain saffron]

lvl125 helps, subs helps, how prepared i'm not sure

[steady beacon]

Sure, that's fine
MLB according to your priorities and needs

[plain saffron]

depends on who you use

[vernal osprey]

No as in like, how prepared should I be to be able to defeat Chapter 14, because chapter 13 kicked my ass so much and it was difficult due to some shipgirls sinking from those...things

[plain saffron]

also ship used will be completely diff compared to w13

[stark quiver]

lvl 120+ with good enuff gear

[worldly pewter]

yeah it is a different league

[vernal osprey]

Should I lv 12+ all gears from Chapter 14 on out...

[worldly pewter]

i don't think so

[plain saffron]

+13 your BB main gun and planes anyway, not just for ch14

[stark quiver]

+13 or leave it

[keen sable]

you +13 what's effective

[vernal osprey]

[plain saffron]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[stark quiver]

dont +13 random shit

[worldly pewter]

i used +10 gear for w14 but the ships are on the top end and 2 healers on mob

[stark quiver]

i used shitters for w14

[plain saffron]

there's a lot of factor

[vernal osprey]

Should I bring healer Shipgirls as well? For example Perseus, Unicorn, Akashi?

[plain saffron]

who you use, what gear you have, who you have

[stark quiver]

unicorn and just unicorn

[plain saffron]

better to make a thread and post dock there instead

[thorn tartan]

those damage blocking negating skills are a pain (on arbitor)

[vernal osprey]

Ok, hold on, I'll post SS of my ships...

[plain saffron]

that that's annoying you had to do as much dmg as you can before it trigger

[worldly pewter]

is it shelling damage reduced to 1 from 30% and under?

[plain saffron]

sometimes it doesn't disappear even after the shield HP rean out

[stark quiver]

In a thread

[thorn tartan]

there is a damage blocker and a shield phase too

[stark quiver]

just blast thru it

[thorn tartan]

but avoid the 0 damage taken phase

[plain saffron]

nothing you can do really other than do as much dmg before the block starts

[thorn tartan]

the block wears off in the last 15 sec or so i think

ez arbitor no prob. hard arbitor might be a prob

[plain saffron]

wait which shield is this

[steady beacon]

If you mean this month's Strength
She has a 15-hit shield every 20s (this is the easier 20s shield, though, by far)
But she also has her normal 160k shield
Which is a much harder issue if you can't power through it

[vernal osprey]

Chapter 14 Prep

[thorn tartan]

how do you deal with the 15 hit shield?

[gusty olive]

Pray to Helena if shield triggers lol (the one that needs to be shut down via sheer damage)

[stark quiver]

you cant

[plain saffron]

manual or timing adjustment

[thorn tartan]

i just hold off with the main line attack until after 15 hit shiled

[dusk maple]

manual

[plain saffron]

wait until your vg breaks it

[thorn tartan]

yeah, that's what i do....

[stark quiver]

i just run normal fleet and wait it out

[vernal osprey]

I sent the SS in the thread

[thorn tartan]

i wonder if i should raise another bf-109

i only have 2

[crimson glacier]

well do you often feel like you need more

[thorn tartan]

against medium boss, could use 3 on my carrier fleet i think

was reading in the tier list. looks like bf getting replaced by la-9

[finite crag]

thatll take a while

[steady beacon]

Ye
Also, we haven't figured out how much trouble the considerably slower cooldown will be

[eternal moth]

LA-9 is the new TB right? I doubt that's going to be quite as accurate as the BF-109, soi I don't know if it'll be replaced or not

[crimson glacier]

pr7 fighter

[steady beacon]

La-9 is the UR rocket fighter of PR7
The TB is the mode change VIT-2

[eternal moth]

Oh, right.

[thorn tartan]

is the focke better than the bf against medium?

[steady beacon]

Nope

[eternal moth]

Focket is better against heavy, but I don't know if there was ever a consensus of that or TBs being better

[steady beacon]

There was
TBs win by a mile

[eternal moth]

So fockets are essentially useless?

[sweet delta]

TBs win by 1.6 kilometres

[whole crypt]

BF is best against medium, before La-9
Focket is barely better than bomb fighters

[clever lance]

I just finished divergent chessboard… which archive should I do next?

[crimson glacier]

well you cant just equip tb on every slot

[eternal moth]

None most likely

[steady beacon]

You only use the FW-190 to cover an unchangeable fighter slot if, for whatever reason, you would avoid or can't use a bomb fighter

[sweet delta]

why aren't you playing the current event?

[clever lance]

I am

I’m just at 60/60 for archive almost

[sweet delta]

let it sit

[eternal moth]

And? I haven't done WAs in months

[plain saffron]

finished as got all the ship?

[clever lance]

So I usually just do 3 daily to use it

[keen sable]

finished DC means you can start FdG?

[clever lance]

What’s fdg?

[plain saffron]

usually do archives for
-waifu
-KMS fleet tech
-collection
-the aux from polaris event
else just let it sit

[clever lance]

Got it

[brazen patrol]

Is there a way to play on PC or is it just for mobile?

[plain saffron]

no pc client but you an use android emulator

[brazen patrol]

How do I do that?

[plain saffron]

bluestack, ldplayer, windows subsytem for android(rip), googple play emulator

[eternal moth]

I'd recommend LDPlayer, it seems to be a lot easier on the system than BlueStacks

[brazen patrol]

Ok, thank you

[coarse heron]

Keep in mind all the functional Android emulators are Windows and macOS only

[plain saffron]

why ldplayer AL page shows Aether Gazer

[whole crypt]

I'm thinking of switching to LDplayer to see if it helps CPU/GPU load when I play other stuff

[plain saffron]

i'm too lazy to resetup all my stuff

plus need to mod and remove ads

[whole crypt]

ldplayer has ads?

[coarse heron]

Going to install Windows on my spare PC this weekend and RDP into it because that’ll be easier than trying to set up an Android emulator on Linux

[eternal moth]

It should consume a lot less resources if you're currently running Bluestacks

[plain saffron]

<insert afiiliate link here>

[steady beacon]

[whole crypt]

I haven't used LD in about 4-5 years

[eternal moth]

Right now Task Manager shows the player itself only using .2% CPU and 27MB memory, although the VirtualBox frontend is using 4% and 580MB

[coarse heron]

Is ldplayer really just VirtualBox?

[whole crypt]

[eternal moth]

It looks like it. Essentially a skin for it

[coarse heron]

If that’s the case I could get it to work on Linux

[whole crypt]

what about GPU load?

[eternal moth]

4.5% using a 6950XT

[whole crypt]

I'm using an older card so at a glance doesn't seem like a lot of difference

[dusk maple]

rarely, when they're promoting a new game launch

[sweet delta]

they can use gpu?

[remote yarrow]

They got ads on launch and on the menu as not-downloaded apps

Outside that no ads in game

[whole crypt]

that 31.1% is GPU load, you tell me what it's doing with my card

[eternal moth]

That was another thing that was starting to annoy me with BLueStacks, the amount of ads I was seeing

[plain saffron]

they have ads?

i only see ads on bottom on home screen

[whole crypt]

load is only up when I have game running so I have doubts it's mining

[vernal edge]

Compare virtualized device gpu capabilities with your machine

[thorn tartan]

i'm going to get hard arby in 3 fleets i think

[eternal moth]

If it was mining I'd assume you'd be closer to 90%+ GPU usage

[plain saffron]

if you launch game by clicking game shortcut there's no ads on loading

[thorn tartan]

hard arby is done. almost did it in 2 fleets!

[eternal moth]

Right, i should probably do some OpSi...

[steady beacon]

Same

[jaunty vault]

meh too much effort

[steady beacon]

Hoshino would say the same, probably

[jaunty vault]

i am hoshino

[whole crypt]

stop tempting me from starting BA again

[jaunty vault]

[plain saffron]

omg it's hoshino

[steady beacon]

NYFuuka and NYHaruna banners soon

[whole crypt]

go back to Saratoga

[plain saffron]

:nimino:

[steady beacon]

Understandable, since Nagami betrayed Sara for Bogue while she wasn't looking

[vernal edge]

Oh right, JP anni may introduce some weird collab again

[plain saffron]

are you saying BA collab or something

unlikely after what happened last time

[steady beacon]

Do you mean like that orchestra thing

And the tea thing
I might be mixing up my annis though

[coarse heron]

Azur Lane collab with itself, shipgirls of employees

[vernal edge]

Nah, probably some weird stuff like pachinko or asahi beer collab. I think they learned the lesson after big collabs...which one was the most profitable again? Kizuna?

[whole crypt]

still waiting for second im@s collab

[steady beacon]

Oh you mean the external collabs

[plain saffron]

wdym learned the lesson after big collab. we still get ingame collab once per year

[steady beacon]

Almost certainly will have something during JP anni period, ye

[whole crypt]

probably announce in JP anniv stream like last year

[vernal edge]

Kancolle collab

[steady beacon]

[coarse heron]

Gushing over Magical Girls collab

[whole crypt]

wasn't like almost every Nov collab announced around JP anniv besides DOAXVV

[jaunty vault]

[plain saffron]

what happened to that another game with neptunia devs

[whole crypt]

which other game

[plain saffron]

i think it was like 2 years ago

[vernal edge]

Crosswave

[plain saffron]

saying there's something in development with that company, then no news

[jaunty vault]

crosswave is like 5 years old

[fast plaza]

so what kind of pool are you pulling from with event pulls? heavy?, special?

[plain saffron]

depends on event but this one is heavy

[jaunty vault]

current event should be heavy yea

[fast plaza]

is it ever on Special?

[plain saffron]

yes

[atomic abyss]

If the main SR is a carrier, special
If the main SR is a battleship, then heavy

[jaunty vault]

sometimes

[fast plaza]

how does one tell?

[coarse heron]

Except when it’s not

[atomic abyss]

You see what the main SR is

[plain saffron]

pull then see which pool the drops from

[fast plaza]

oh ty

[plain saffron]

if it have subs drops it's special

[jaunty vault]

by the nonevent ships that drop from the banners

[sweet delta]

who is the main SR?

[plain saffron]

then you spread that around to everyone

[jaunty vault]

me

[fast plaza]

so no real way of telling before pulling i see

[atomic abyss]

You can

[sweet delta]

ask other people who pulled

[atomic abyss]

[plain saffron]

the real way is asking someone else

[coarse heron]

You wait for someone else to pull first

[steady beacon]

Cooper SR in JP
Checks out

[plain saffron]

usually from CN

[whole crypt]

to be fair you can have a fair idea based on the ships listed

[atomic abyss]

Yep

[whole crypt]

but the only way to be sure is when you pull

[atomic abyss]

On a side note

[plain saffron]

and devs hate being consistent

[atomic abyss]

As a reminder
This isn't the place for Collab discussions

[coarse heron]

Consistency is illegal in Azur Lane

[atomic abyss]

[jaunty vault]

meh

[atomic abyss]

You wanna discuss that, go to #al-general

[plain saffron]

but we're not talking about collab currently

[jaunty vault]

spoilsport

[atomic abyss]

Else nimi is gonna pay y'all visits

Yuki would have warned y'all by now
Stop complaining

[whole crypt]

to be fair outside of collabs I don't think any banner has been wildly out of expectations whether it's heavy or special based on announced ships

[jaunty vault]

you're not yuki

[plain saffron]

wait are we talking about collab banner pool?

[late flame]

ping yuki and find out

[jaunty vault]

i miss when reign or res used to mod gph, id have already been muted by mow

[whole crypt]

no earlier someone asked about event pool

[plain saffron]

don't worry i'll mute(block) you instead

does the top boss basically have unlimited hp and died as soon as "amagi" dead?

[atomic abyss]

Basically yes

I doubt it actually has unlimited HP

[plain saffron]

for people saying no does that means i have to kill both

[whole crypt]

is it same mechanic as Unzen EX

[plain saffron]

can you please type instead of unclear reaction

[stark quiver]

Once hp bar gets to 0 the top thing dies as well

[vernal edge]

If Amagi dies, chapter clears. Shadow just a damage sponge

[plain saffron]

[jaunty vault]

but does it have unlimited HP

[stark quiver]

Until amagi dies

[steady beacon]

This is gph, what did you expect?

[whole crypt]

is there the hit count mechanic like Unzen EX that you shave the bar enough times and boss dies even if you don't kill Amagi?

[stark quiver]

From my experience, once bar gets to 0 everything on screen explodes

[jaunty vault]

what do you guys use for SP

[plain saffron]

you know what i gonna go check it

[jaunty vault]

you can do this nahamwi

[whole crypt]

Unicorn/Laffey II
Musashi/Kronshtadt
you can probably get away with less

[jaunty vault]

ig i was overkilling

[stark quiver]

Pressed advice

[jaunty vault]

such a waste of oil

[whole crypt]

I tried jamming fleet 2 full of rainbows and for a few days I could one-fleet it, but for some reason it stopped being consistent so I swapped to using boss fleet

[jaunty vault]

lol

[jaunty vault]

10mil-1 HP poggies

[whole crypt]

do you have Unzen EX boss data

[plain saffron]

if you can give me the date, probably

i really need to rework this page

[whole crypt]

mid Sep last year so

[plain saffron]

uhh what's the event name

[jaunty vault]

/wiki effulgence

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Effulgence_Before_Eclipse
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Effulgence_Before_Eclipse

Aug 24, 2024, 6:54 AM

[whole crypt]

I'm just wondering if there's a boss death mechanic from killing gauge like Effulgence EX

[plain saffron]

https://azurlane.nagami.moe/expedition-info?id=1755001

[whole crypt]

not like it really matters because Amagi dies much faster here

[jaunty vault]

so 10mil-1

[stark quiver]

Nuh uh

[jaunty vault]

isn't that EX tho

[whole crypt]

it is, I'm just wondering if D3 boss has similar mechanic, but I doubt you can do enough hits on the boss before Amagi just dies

[pseudo stream]

Is persues worth it in wishing well? when I last played i know she was good and unobtainable for me

[jaunty vault]

true

[plain saffron]

ouh you mean D3

D3 unzen?

[jaunty vault]

unicorn makes perseus obsolete so not really

[whole crypt]

wait isn't this event's D3 Amagi plus shadow

[inland shoal]

It is

[jaunty vault]

and she's(unicorn) free (of cubes)

[whole crypt]

yeh that's what I'm saying this event's D3 vs Effulgence EX

[jaunty vault]

oh my gotto its thorin

[plain saffron]

ouh, what i see is SP, is that same as D3

yeah they all use same stuff

[whole crypt]

I actually have no idea what SP is because I never looked at the screen during the fight

[plain saffron]

d3, sp, unzen ex

i stayed too long in EX victory screen now my game freeze

[inland shoal]

wheeze rhymes to freeze, poetry

[jaunty vault]

deez

[little tree]

🥜

[inland shoal]

I don't think this was the question though? Cuz we already know it dies if Amagi dies

[eternal moth]

I don't know that it's even possible to kill the hydra instead of Amagi

[remote yarrow]

Since this event's D3 is "we are amagi" do we die if she dies?

[whole crypt]

well it is if there is a gauge mechanic, but don't know how many times you'll need to shave it and whether you can shave it enough times before Amagi just rolls over
Effulgence EX actually goes long enough for it matter

[plain saffron]

with low prio and 3times the hp probably

[steady beacon]

Like that Touhou theme
We will die together

[inland shoal]

Are you a three headed shadow serpent? If yes I'd start worrying

[plain saffron]

i'm 2 headed should be worried too

[remote yarrow]

I might be

[inland shoal]

Anyway frame missions last till next month?

[steady beacon]

The CtA one should, I think
Since 1 week from event end should be next month

[inland shoal]

Good

[muted ember]

any tips for anyone starting operation siren?

[whole crypt]

reading

[steady beacon]

Starting out? Probably just follow TB's instructions to start with

[vernal edge]

Tutorial is long enough

[whole crypt]

the way difficulty scales in OS can be a bit rough if you just unlocked it

[coarse heron]

best way to learn OpSi is trial and error

since all you lose is a bit of time at most

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't say trial and error, some things aren't very intuitive, and there's a lot of things you miss if not reading carefully

[coarse heron]

OpSi is where it matters to read yeah

esp boss fleet modifiers

[whole crypt]

well the main issue is newer players that just unlocked OS can have a pretty different experience than players who were around before launch

your fleets won't be in great shape to plow through OS up to ch4 if freshly unlocked when older players basically went straight in with reasonably decent lv120 fleets

[muted ember]

and also,best gear to speedrun(if you can say that) in R&D

[whole crypt]

you'll need at least a month or so before you collect enough materials for anything useful if you have enough levels, just focus on clearing it up first

[plain saffron]

also not everything is readable ingame

[remote yarrow]

I doubt you got good enough gear to do so also what's R&D

[tame jungle]

gearlab i think

[vivid bear]

Is it worth to gacha event ship? Or should i save cube? Curently have 100cube

[edgy steeple]

Anyone knows why I can't use this for limit breaking? its not showing

[wind hazel]

round 3?

check if she's in guild support etc

[remote yarrow]

Save cubes for UR event next month

[vivid bear]

New UR?

[remote yarrow]

Yep

We don't know who tho

[worldly pewter]

make the filter show leveled up ships

[crimson glacier]

press this

[remote yarrow]

They did, check second image

[crimson glacier]

i took the photo from 2nd image

[remote yarrow]

Does it need to not be on?

[crimson glacier]

i guess i just dont remember which one is on and off

[worldly pewter]

then check commissions or guild support

[remote yarrow]

God dammit Torva you confused me now lemme check

Yeah that means on

[crimson glacier]

and on means

[remote yarrow]

Show Higher than level 1

[jaunty vault]

id assume that sign is pretty obvious

[crimson glacier]

i dont trust the game i only trust myself

[remote yarrow]

based

[jaunty vault]

same

[edgy steeple]

Oh it could be in the guild support is there a way to check it, even if there's a Maritime defense Hard on going?

[worldly pewter]

i think u have to wait for it

[edgy steeple]

alright, thanks for the answers.

[worldly pewter]

[torn latch]

Literally me fr fr

[mossy stratus]

Guys what is the best line up against purifier guild battle?

[torn latch]

Hah purifier? Pretty sure she isn't purifier

[wind hazel]

uh... stack UR

[whole crypt]

if your guild has a purifier boss you need a new guild

[torn latch]

Lol

[torn latch]

Wait, Purifier boss guild actually exist?

Is it from low rank guild mission option or smthing

[steady beacon]

Ye

[torn latch]

Damn explorer 1

[mossy stratus]

Why

[torn latch]

Oh ops 3sorry I can't read

[whole crypt]

so yes if your guild does Purifier it's time to find a better guild
but if just for beating guild boss just throw rainbows at it

[steady beacon]

In theory it's supposed to be doable for a smaller guild
But the point of just moving to a larger guild is well taken

[torn latch]

Ded guild I guess

[wind hazel]

it gives less reward

[whole crypt]

purifier is from a worse set of guild ops and has less rewards
a guild should be able to handle solomon even with just like 8-10 active members

[wind hazel]

maybe they did an oopsie in selecting it like my officer did last month

[steady beacon]

[mossy stratus]

Ok I'll just throw rainbow for now

[wind hazel]

also wtf is your pfp

[whole crypt]

actually I just checked my guild only had 7 players fighting the boss last op

[mossy stratus]

Wdym, it's my GOAT

[plain saffron]

check commissions or guild ops

[jaunty vault]

goat more like gyatt

[plain saffron]

or use retire strats

[whole crypt]

what was PR7 start date again?

[crimson glacier]

i dont know but ill throw in 25th of july before the right answer

or was it 11th

fuck

[whole crypt]

if it was 25 Jul today will be first day people finish dev lol

[crimson glacier]

never lucky

[whole crypt]

so 1 month + 2 weeks

[sturdy badger]

Damn...

[torn latch]

What

[sturdy badger]

How do we get those blue things?

[whole crypt]

no reason to rush it, there's only 1 copy anyway

[remote yarrow]

Also get Tenrai first

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource#currency

[tropic parcel]

dismantling PR blueprints but you can make the 457 in the gear lab now so don't waste them

[whole crypt]

457 is also expensive in lab and no rush to make one until pretty late in game

[sturdy badger]

So I should make them in the lab instead?

[sturdy badger]

When's that?

[whole crypt]

ch13+
it's basically the best mobbing BB gun for 14+

[sturdy badger]

Thanks for this 😄

[sturdy badger]

I see. I still haven't advanced from 12-4. Been farming there for days now cuz I got my booty kicked in W13

[remote yarrow]

I wonder if they read my message

[whole crypt]

you don't need Tenrai first either if no champagne guns and BFGs

[sturdy badger]

Aight, what's the prio here? I'm confused

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#protocore

[tropic parcel]

for world 13? ships with good AA

[remote yarrow]

You get your BFGs from PR4 research but yeah Champy gun higher prio

[sturdy badger]

I do need planes for W13

[remote yarrow]

#bot-spam /protocore

[tropic parcel]

you don't need planes you just need good AA carries like chesire or shimanto or laffey 2 or guam

[sturdy badger]

Ah, damn...

[whole crypt]

you don't need specific planes for 13 but there are bad planes you shouldn't use

by ch13 usually Juneau, Sandy and Cheshire, if you don't have Laffey II and Guam, Shimanto takes a bit to unlock

[sturdy badger]

I'm using poverty options for now according to the github guide

[tropic parcel]

those are just high end examples, there's easier to acquire ones too though at the moment i can't recall any, chesire and sandy retro are pretty easy to acquire though

[whole crypt]

take some time in 12 to level up stuff and sort out your research, there's not a lot of rush to go past 12-4

[tropic parcel]

yeah honestly, i've been playing for 4 years have every single UR ship maxed and dozens of other ships at 120/125 and haven't done a lick of world 14, there's absolutely no rush to clear anything

[sturdy badger]

Ngl, I'm VERY comfortable on 12-4. Also what's BFGs?

[whole crypt]

BF-109G, rocket fighter from PR4

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Messerschmitt_Bf_109G_(Carrier-based_Prototype)

if you need visual help

[sturdy badger]

Ah, that one. Thanks

[tropic parcel]

keep doing operation siren and following the progress guide on the ectl

[whole crypt]

ectl guide is kind of outdated depending on what you're looking for

[remote yarrow]

I think you mean ECGC cuz Ectl's progression guide is so outdated

[tropic parcel]

ah yeah that's fair

[whole crypt]

ectl doesn't have OS guide and chapter guides haven't been updated to consider new shops and oilcap grinding

[remote yarrow]

And they don't intend to update it remove it from /guide command

[whole crypt]

ch14 guide is based on roster before Vanguard launch

[sturdy badger]

Yeah, can't find the OS guide.

[tame jungle]

how many strongholds were active on a map at once again? 2 or 3?

[tropic parcel]

not surprising, they barely updated the tier guide in the first place

[remote yarrow]

That's a lie

oh you mean the guide not the tierlist

[tropic parcel]

yeah

[remote yarrow]

or wdym I'm confused

[remote yarrow]

3 iirc

[tropic parcel]

the tier list they slowed the fuck down, but the guide is just dead

[remote yarrow]

Do you atleast know why it "slows the fuck down"?

[tropic parcel]

one of the main members got sick or had problems? can't really recall

[remote yarrow]

No, they need to test the ships, they also rely on the wiki itself to be updated and they normally update 1 week after an event is over.
And on top on that it's voluntary work

[tropic parcel]

hm fair enough

[remote yarrow]

It's not as simple as a new ship releases and throw it on the tierlist with a tiering

[main junco]

what ur gear should i go for in the gear lab i have a wyvern and a mk7

[remote yarrow]

More Wyverns

[main junco]

like how many should i go for

[muted ember]

gear lab

[remote yarrow]

2 to 3 in total

[main junco]

should i even try to craft the 457?

[remote yarrow]

You can, but do you need it? What Chapter are you at

[main junco]

ive been lazy just at 12-4

[remote yarrow]

Oh then no, Gearlab mats take a while to farm so there's no real to "speedrun" it

[remote yarrow]

Probably not rn then, better craft when you are about to try W14

Since it's the best mobbing bb gun for W14+

[main junco]

ah

so its kinda meh anywhere else or should i just craft like the 100mm gun for dds

[remote yarrow]

If you don't need it just save mats

There's no need to craft stuff because you can

[main junco]

i mena just trying to craft whats good yk

[remote yarrow]

Cuz you may need to craft X thing but you already used the materials you need on another thing

[remote yarrow]

You can check out #bot-spam /gearlab

[wet badge]

Strasser or odin

[remote yarrow]

For what? Cuz you are comparing a CV with a BB

But without context probably Odin

[wet badge]

They got stupidly overleveled from fdg grind

For mobbing^^

They are both around lvl 100 shile gasc who is supposed to be my main fleet flag is at 88

[sterile jolt]

FdG is one of the best ships for mobbing...

[wet badge]

Im not done w the grind yet

[remote yarrow]

Uuuh depends on what you are using I guess

[sterile jolt]

Strasser for bossing, and Odin... Don't really know where to use her

[wet badge]

Is straser decent for mobbing

[remote yarrow]

Strasser isnt really a good ship tbh

[sterile jolt]

I'd say not really

[wet badge]

Aight

[sterile jolt]

Also third wave is not good at all

[remote yarrow]

You haven't given me any context besides mobbing and almost everything works in mobbing up to W12 so go ahead

[sterile jolt]

Except Cheshire*

Cheshire is good AA tank

[remote yarrow]

Nah Odin is good, but there's just so many better BBs (mainly URs) she's shadowed by them

[wet badge]

How much does the exp core challenge thing give anyway

[reef flume]

Odin is a good BC for mobbing

[wet badge]

For series 4

[reef flume]

(I personally use her)

[remote yarrow]

What thing?

[tropic parcel]

the data packs?

[wet badge]

The challenges that gives data packs

[tame jungle]

You mean the season 4 rookie missions thing? Should be on wiki somewhere how much it is exactly

[wet badge]

Ty

[tame jungle]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Beginner_Rewards scroll down on this to “Development (PR)” section

Also convert the packs to protocore

[remote yarrow]

~~I like how this guy sometimes comes, says "I personally do or use X thing" and leaves ~~

[tame jungle]

Deploy 🆗

[remote yarrow]

In any case I'm off to bed gn gph

[coarse heron]

[faint jacinth]

what opinion so far on eldrige UR?

[finite crag]

good 👍

[snow fractal]

Guys which is better BC hood or amagi?

[coarse heron]

Do you need a Battlecruiser specifically for a hard mode requirement?

[crimson glacier]

if it says BC then it needs to be a BC

[wet badge]

IS THAT LORD DESSLER HIMSELF

[crisp obsidian]

Hello.
What ship should I get from the invitation if my fleets look like this:
1: Nelson, Ark Royal, Souryuu (soon to be enterprise)
Heinrich, Helena, Z47
2: Lil Friedrich, Uni, Sara.
Portland Z23 Foch META.
A brief explanation would be appreciated, as well as any advice.

[abstract solar]

Do you run the 76mm aa gun on eldrige? Her aoa seems nice

[vernal osprey]

What is Unicorn's best fighter and torpedo Bomber gear?

nvm, I got it

[errant ivy]

hello! i was just checking out the store and i wanted to know if the level packs are worth it?

[shell willow]

if you were considering buying cubes with gems then they are worth but you mustnt do that unless you are whaling (and even as whale buying cubes with gems is super meh)

[late flame]

+don't buy cubes with gems. its totally not worth

[cloud fractal]

What IB aircraft should I be looking for? Or do we ignore this skill?

[sturdy badger]

Ey, anyone got any guide for OS?

[hollow sail]

it's typically either the bf 109 or the ju-87

[steady beacon]

Also, don't ignore the skill
The boosts are substantial

[cloud fractal]

Not planning on it. I was under the impression though there are ships where sometimes the boost isn’t considered worth.

This would appear to not be one of those times though!

[steady beacon]

There are indeed some ships where some boosts are not worth getting too fussed over, ye
Just in this case (i) the boosts are worth getting, and (ii) it's pretty easy to fit a responsive aircraft into one of her slots

[crisp obsidian]

Between Jeanne d'Arc, Sirius and Portland Stock and Retro, who'll have the best stats as a tank?

[cloud fractal]

I had one of these laying around. Hope this is the 109 y’all are talking about!

[steady beacon]

Yep, that's the one

[steady beacon]

Portland retro
JdA is useful for survivability, but not quite in the "tank" way
And Sirius is not typically expected to be a defensive stalwart

[vernal osprey]

Between Unicorn and Perseus, which is the better healer?

[brisk shard]

unicorn

[vernal osprey]

ok

[iron meteor]

once its 5k i cant earn cores anymore?

[vernal osprey]

What is this Musashi Aguila Combo, can someone explain it to me?

[undone plover]

yes 5k is the monthly cap
u can get 1k more from medal shop

[undone plover]

musashi absorbs backline dmg
aquila has targeted healing + shielding

basically sushi tanks most dmg and aquila heals her up

[vernal osprey]

Alright

[iron meteor]

faelein what other stuff do i buy from hard mode shop if i have enough white and black shells for now

[gray sphinx]

Has anyone even bothered retrofitting Eldridge?

[tame jungle]

yeah

[gray sphinx]

Thoughts?

[sleek spade]

Is this a good fish fleet? I will level them ofc. Which girls do ppl use for fish fleet?

[undone plover]

independence (especially if u need good CV)
submarine gear (if u are at a stage where u need submarines - ch14+/hard arbiter)
CV timing gear (homing beacon + elite maint manjuu)
DDG gear (if u are using a DDG)
cog chips/arrays

[tame jungle]

idk i don't have her myself but from what i've read she seems like a very versatile support now, someone else would probably have a more educated opinion on eldridge retro

[late flame]

she can now oneshot w-meta fight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL_18V0SGf0

[undone plover]

I think ppl put albacore in flag postion

[cursive anvil]

Please introduce this character's equipment.

[sleek spade]

Flasher has buff skills if she is flag so I put her there

[undone plover]

her skill needs her to be flag OR with another gato sub (which alba is)
alba is better flag cuz of her barrage iirc

[plain saffron]

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home?ship=new_jersey
make sure to read the desc

[sleek spade]

Ah I see

[digital vault]

What

[sleek spade]

Yea I’ll change them around

[plain saffron]

desync from server, relog

[late flame]

restart game

[digital vault]

Ok ty

[opaque hill]

Is Wichita meta good

[gray sphinx]

Hmmm so pretty solid. Good to know

[opaque hearth]

Hello, I can buy 95 rainbow research gun mount designs in the Proto monthly shop.

Knowing I’ve only got one gun of each of those, of which one should I buy more mount designs of? Is there any guns that’s great to have many more than others?

[frank pulsar]

457 > ply gun > drake gun imho
but get tenrai first if you havent alrdy bought it

[civic crag]

You have to challenge a meta boss 140 times to complete her dossier???

[frank pulsar]

uh no...?

[civic crag]

You have to get 70k sync points no?

[frank pulsar]

unless you're doing literally no dmg to the boss each attempy

[frank pulsar]

25k is enough for mlb
going past that is for bonus rewards

[civic crag]

Then how do you get a different boss

[frank pulsar]

you just switch it

[civic crag]

Oh wait

[late flame]

just click on another

[frank pulsar]

theres no restrictions on switching it besides the one day cd iirc

[civic crag]

Oh ok

Oopsy

[late flame]

tbh during events i ignore dossier unless i got oil to spare and / or can one-shot

[frank pulsar]

i completely ignore dossier

[civic crag]

Should I 125 lafii and agir

[civic crag]

Doesn’t dossier cost 0 oil

[late flame]

first fight

[civic crag]

Also do y’all generally use converging or parallel torpedo Bombers

[coarse heron]

situational

some bosses jump around like a toddler having a fit so using converging doesn't really work on them

[worldly pewter]

parallel for campaign and opsi mobbing

[late flame]

+do you have someone who can stop (e.g. implacable / AvP / Ark Royal retrofit)

[steady beacon]

In fairness, AR can do the slow thing pre-retro as well

[coarse heron]

If you have a ship that can Za Warudo the boss then converging is good for every boss
but don't use converging for mob fleet

[frank pulsar]

theyre worth it yea

[late flame]

i have not used her to date lol (since i slot implacable & AvP in my 2 cv fleets)

[steady beacon]

Reasonable
When you have Implac and AvP, it's terribly hard to justify her use

Soon to be made even worse with the cat

[late flame]

she's so far behind in my to-level list sigh (still doing cv reload tech)
i should try to pull Chiyoda and whatshername ar yes Princeton* from ww

[sleek spade]

Are there any gear recommendations for halford?

[copper pine]

What's the role of nakhimov and Napoli?

[steady beacon]

Well, with the caveat that we don't have much real data on either yet, naturally
Napoli is main tank with some vanguard survival support
Nakhi is damage CV with fair bit of utility, although she probably needs a Russian slow to achieve her full potential

[steady beacon]

Standard gun DD, just with her third slot able to carry her Bearcat floatplanes instead of an AA gun

[sleek spade]

So… German 128mm?

I dont have good DD gun options .-.

[kind slate]

I’ve been offline for abt a month. I just came back. Is it possible to get the event ship and gear from scratch?

[steady beacon]

If that's your best available DD gun, sure, that's alright

[sleek spade]

The 128mm compared to the Russian 130mm in protoshop, which one is better?

[steady beacon]

I wanna say the Tashkent gun should be better in general?
If you can afford it and don't need other stuff from core, sure
Honestly, it's been an age since I've not just plopped on Mog or Aki Kai without thinking any harder
I can't remember much about gold damage DD guns

[wispy cosmos]

use the 130 if you have it

halford's reccs are also available on ectl if you want more options and explanations and not ask about each piece of equipment here

[sleek spade]

hmmm

I'll give it some thought. thanks guys

[steady beacon]

Oh right, ECTL have already added PR7
Completely forgot about that

[sleek spade]

yea I just saw lol. I thought it didn't have PR 7 yet. btw was the issue w Sandy's barrage proc on shooting fixed? it has some issue with guns that loads super quick like the twin 100mm UR gun

[lavish hare]

Should i mlb portland and unicorn?

[wet badge]

Is eagle union triple 406 worth grinding on story stages for?

Should i spend my pr2 data packs on azuma when i get enough points for her (im almost done w fdg)

[tame jungle]

you shouldn't spend your pr data packs regardless lmfao

[wet badge]

Why

[tame jungle]

convert to protocore = get tenrai

[wet badge]

Should i get the guns instead, i dont really have any good carriers yet

[grizzled sundial]

Is EU heavy cruiser strong just like what the game tip said when you start the game ?

[tame jungle]

Go for tenrai first imo

[undone plover]

does OOA affect ASW?

[jaunty vault]

yeah

[wet badge]

How much do packs do i need in total

[tame jungle]

i don't recall exactly what the conversion rate is but should be some simple maths when you check ingame

3000 protocore for all 50 tenrai prints, can be a little less if you already got some tenrai prints from pr4 research (which you should probably be doing at this point anyway)

[undone plover]

if farming 14-4 on safe u cant 1 fleet right?

[wet badge]

SO THATS LIKE 1K DATA POINTS?

I dont got that im still mid game

[tame jungle]

you still got s3 4 and 5 packs chill

[warm latch]

youll get more protocore from analyzing blueprints once youve finished ships to dev30/fs5

[wet badge]

How long does it take w/o the data pack challenges

[warm latch]

dont do pr1-4 blueprint catchup before you have a ship at dev30 so you can analyze the blueprints from catchup, since you can just use coins to level them instead

[sinful elk]

Chat is these gears good enough for her?

[tame jungle]

if you convert all from beginner rewards that's already 4.8k protocore which is enough to get 3x champagne gun and the tenrai

[forest palm]

for generic leveling that'll work, however you'll eventually have to consider the enemy you're fighting

[sinful elk]

I am planning to puts her in along nj and alsace to fight the monthly arbiter

[fallow cape]

is Indiana worth pulling? 200cube and still dont have Indiana, should i suffering more?

[late flame]

save

[fallow cape]

copy that sir!

[alpine grail]

UR coming so that's much more worth

[torn latch]

Does JP anniv event will come right after this current event without Call of The Arm prelude event first?

I just surprised that they announced Zuihou pretty early

[rain bobcat]

thats a mini event

jp anniv ships and skins will be on livestream

expect eta around september 12

[plain saffron]

does LB META use coins?

[forest jasper]

yea