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[dawn quarry]

👍

[grizzled sundial]

But seems people think it is bad idea

[atomic abyss]

You literally have 6

And are trying to invest in all 6

[soft raft]

That's because right now you lack enough good ships raised that could work for a 2nd fleet

[atomic abyss]

You should look into building a good second fleet
Not have a second fleet

[sinful escarp]

just a bit of a side info but save your cubes for the upcoming event

[grizzled sundial]

not like i don't have 2nd fleet so go with the first one , if only 1 fleet is strong then there won't be enough ammunition to clear all the enemy in a mission no ?

[sinful escarp]

dont bother buidling, aside from the 1 daily for the mission

[finite crag]

you can fight with 0 ammo

[grizzled sundial]

With debuff though

[finite crag]

doesnt matter

[soft raft]

Doesn't matter if your fleet is properly raised and geared

[viscid swift]

Mob: Seydlitz, Unicorn, Saratoga retrofit, Portland, Le Audacious, Bellona
Boss: Colorado, Vanguard, Enterprise, Eugen, Helena, Z23

[atomic abyss]

Cheeky what are you smoking

[sinful escarp]

why recommend eugen when he has the 2 roons? granted they arent mlb but still

[atomic abyss]

He isn't even overdue for a second fleet

[viscid swift]

What 2 fleets they should be working towards to push w12

[grizzled sundial]

cus i got eugen on day 1 when i just start lol

[viscid swift]

They're in chapter 9, excellent time to start working on 2 fleets

[grizzled sundial]

so she kinda stick with me for a long time

The 2 roons are new addition added to the fleet recently

[viscid swift]

Eugen is MLB and has more levels
Simple as that

[soft raft]

Default roon is just a expensive Portland sidegrade and Muse Roon on paper is better but in practice, she's a waste of core data which could've been used for Independence instead

[sinful escarp]

ahh, i see

[atomic abyss]

Or you know, gear

And that's the main reason I don't see the point in the second fleet yet

[viscid swift]

What about gear exactly

[atomic abyss]

Non existent gear

[viscid swift]

That'll just have to be fixed as they work on levels

[atomic abyss]

The guy says his goal is to clear SP and EX (unrealistic)

[grizzled sundial]

i don't think i lack gear really

[atomic abyss]

He'll need at least 1 fleet raised to 120 for SP

[grizzled sundial]

working toward to it

[viscid swift]

Either way, your decision to focus on farming tech at this point was pretty foolish

[grizzled sundial]

I am more bias toward play for fun , going the meta way can be a bit boring .

[atomic abyss]

Your goal requires you to go the meta way to some extent

Lol

[wet badge]

How do i get lots of commander exp

[grizzled sundial]

Just gonna pick it up along the way .

[atomic abyss]

Play the game
With a full fleet of 6 ships

[grizzled sundial]

Oh well , at least for now i will working on Helena

[atomic abyss]

For now you should work on unicorn

You simply won't be able to run away from raising her

[viscid swift]

Well let me explain why it was foolish
First, not all oil capped maps are the same in terms of efficienc
There's a significant jump from w10 to w11 and a lesser but still noticeable jump from w11 to w12 not to mention w12 is significantly easier to farm than w11

[grizzled sundial]

That sound like a good challenge to beat w12 without unicorn :v

[viscid swift]

And you will want those jumps, particularly in coins to be able to sustain coining ships and keeping the research queue filled among other things, not to mention pulls

[atomic abyss]

I mean your goal doesn't align with your actions

[grizzled sundial]

Also , can i delete my screenshot now ?

[viscid swift]

Why is there a need exactly for that

[grizzled sundial]

I just don't feel it belong there

[viscid swift]

It's done here all the time
Just leave it besides we may come back to them

but anyway, your goal right now is work on getting 2 competent fleets together and push to W12
forget about grinding tech and farming for CDCs at this point, wait till you get to W12 where it can be done much more easily, quickly, and efficiently

[north gazelle]

Whats cdc?

[viscid swift]

also you said you wanted to beat SP and EX? this is a big step towards that as well

combat data collection

[finite crag]

combat data collection

[north gazelle]

Lol

[finite crag]

the xp collection for pr ships

[elfin hollow]

what emotion state should i keep my ships at?

30?

[keen sable]

121+

[elfin hollow]

mine are disappointed rn

[outer kernel]

above 30 is the minimum you should do. if you don't bother with dorm stuff at least

[keen sable]

so disappointed is really bad.

[elfin hollow]

i only have 4 slots per dorm

[keen sable]

like stop abusing your ships bad

[timid beacon]

[elfin hollow]

i normally just use them to grind event but now @viscid swift (best person) helped me make my teams so i need to get the emotions up

[keen sable]

when game warns you not to sortie, it meant it

[outer kernel]

also if you accidentally work them into the ground too hard then they lose affection which means you lose damage

[keen sable]

play the game without abusing your ships and it will cap. that's all there is to it

[atomic abyss]

[crimson glacier]

are you lost perhaps

[outer kernel]

...

[elfin hollow]

didnt know about the emotions

[atomic abyss]

This channel prohibits the sending of off topic gifs

[elfin hollow]

explains alot now

[jaunty vault]

bros in his own world
respect

[atomic abyss]

Not that the vanguard at 7 affection is particularly relevant either

[viscid swift]

you do know among other things when your ships hit 0 morale they earn half XP right?

[elfin hollow]

it was attached to the vang. pic

[atomic abyss]

They're just not allowed
Even if it's reactions to something

[elfin hollow]

Would u get all 6 slots of the dorm them?

[sharp socket]

just dont go below 0 morale and you’re good iirc

[atomic abyss]

Only if I was spending a fair bit

[sharp socket]

also remember to reboot your game regularly cause the game needs to update time for morale

[atomic abyss]

Otherwise there's no reason a f2p needs to go over 3

[outer kernel]

i'm not entirely sure but i've heard the second floor in the dorm also gives morale, just not exp

and it keeps all the other dorm slots so it duplicates the amount of dorm slots basically

[elfin hollow]

i am thinking of buying like a pack rn

so i have 12 slots for the 2 fleets i always use

[atomic abyss]

Since yes, 3 slots x2 floors is 6 slots

[sharp socket]

with an optimal dorm swapping method u can farm 12 sorties every 3 hours

[full leaf]

is using ships with torps ok on a mob fleet that ill auto most of the time?

[crimson glacier]

torps doesnt make the ship good or bad for auto

[atomic abyss]

And that is why we have magnetic torpedoes

[sharp socket]

for optimal xp gain youd do 3 sortie every 40 minutes

[crimson glacier]

there are shit ships with torps and amazing ships with torps

[undone plover]

@elfin hollow u only need 6 total slots (3 and 2nd floor) for 1 fleet
since the boss fleet wont lose morale that fast
u also dont have infinite oil
u are much more likely to be gated by oil not morale assuming u login a few times per day and allow morale to replenish

[sharp socket]

thorin has showed me that if u have 7 mob fleets you can farm indefinitely with no swapping

[atomic abyss]

I mean, at that point you'd likely run out of oil

[elfin hollow]

fair point thank you

[sharp socket]

for the people with lots of tech ships to level and saudi arabia in their mail it can maybe be a strategy

[viscid swift]

not really

[atomic abyss]

Realistically
You'd just go grind opsi for a while

[viscid swift]

among other things you're spreading out the XP across so many ships it's gonna take ages to get anything leveled to 120

[sharp socket]

it was just a theory anyway on how to spend large amounts of oil on useful things

[elfin hollow]

i just checked the shop, its prolly best to wait for 6th anniversary to get gems and packs right?

[narrow wyvern]

If I'm understanding it correctly, t2 skill books are better than t3, yes?

[mystic topaz]

For a new player, how do i earn more gear?

[brazen hornet]

Your first purchase gets doubled, and it resets with the anniversary.

For gems that is...

[crimson glacier]

how is T2 better

[atomic abyss]

Purple and gold tech boxes

[outer kernel]

just keep playing and decent gear will naturally come to you

as for exceptional gear that comes much later with stuff like gear lab (no need to worry about it now)

[narrow wyvern]

Oh right, I mean this in a crafting perspective. A t2 skill book with bonus gives 450, whereas t3 skill books give 1200. The main difference is time, but in terms of quantity, t2 would be better

[crimson glacier]

total exp is more but if you never use them then its kinda pointless

[narrow wyvern]

Yeah, but the idea is t2 is more or less better for total exp, right? I don't really mind the time, I'd rather save more books. I didn't realize you burn through red books insanely quickly so a t3 is kinda a net loss

[elfin hollow]

i am stacked on those tbh

only burning the red ones tbh

[undone plover]

T3 is better for xp/time
If u mean crafting t2 to t3 then yeah u can run out
Ig it depends on your academy slots but not sure it is sustainable even with 2 slots

[crimson glacier]

we dont care if you are stacked on books

[narrow wyvern]

wym sustainable?

[undone plover]

I mean if u run out of t3 books
U have 2 options
Either craft up t2 to t3
Or use the t2

Crafting up is better xp/time if u dont run out
But u will likely run out in my experience (i have 3 slots) and in that case better use the t2 books

Of course it means u also have to login sooner

[narrow wyvern]

I'm on 2 slots but I've been levelling a lot of my ships' skills up so I burnt through 100ish or so books over the past 1-2 weeks

I'm down to like 50 t3 books at this point after crafting all my t2s into t3s 😔

[sharp socket]

there arent enough hours to burn 100 books in 2 weeks

[crimson glacier]

50 T3s is more than 1 week of nonstop use of 2 slots

[narrow wyvern]

I think? I honestly didn't count. I did drop from 100+ to 2 digits

[elfin hollow]

You can burn those books on skipping time events tho

[crimson glacier]

1 slot cant use more than 21 books in a week

and 21 is pretty much impossible

[sharp socket]

ive been leveling skills constantly since i started and i havent run out of books since like 4 months ago so youll eventually have more than you can use them on

naturally you have less red and yellow books and much more blue books though because of skill distribution

[jaunty glade]

for researching, I was told to hold off to mid game - should i still select a ship in the shipyard so I get the free blueprints or wait?

[sharp socket]

do catchup on anchorage if you havent already, then agir and hakuryuu

all 3 are in PR4

[jaunty glade]

anchorae over izumo? and I assume you mean this?

[sharp socket]

yea do anchorage

[narrow wyvern]

Top button to PR4, PR4 to Anchorage. I think?

[sharp socket]

research focus PR4, research catchup anchorage > agir > haku in that order

you will stay at pr4 for a long time because everyone except marco is very good in there

also the gear is good too

[jaunty glade]

thanks!

[brazen knoll]

which filter/sort shows CA/CB guns?

[sweet delta]

CL for CA and BB for CB

🧠

If you want to see them all together, then use the menu when you try changing the gun on a CB who isn't Guam

[willow minnow]

Question! Is Ryuuhou worth investing as a healer CVL (I'm not a Percy owner )

[soft raft]

Not really when Unicorn retrofit is a thing

[sweet delta]

Unicorn Is All You Need

[reef flume]

Get Unicorn retrofit and you'll be fine forever

[willow minnow]

she's tired of carrying my baguettes

[stoic basalt]

Anyone got a good opsi guide/video for UR materials? I've been playing too long without +13 stuff

[rain vine]

just clear out the map every month and farm c3 or c5 zones with whatever remaining ap you have

[elfin hollow]

Do you guys do port missions in opsy?

[plain saffron]

yes

delete all mail doesn't delete import mail right?

[civic crag]

Should I max anchorage now or just space it out everyday for the coin discounts

[plain saffron]

coin discounts always

[half plover]

yeah if you don't care about your money you will be down to 0 sooner than u think

[keen sable]

0LB Shinano, Ryuuhou, Houshou was my Daisen comp. +2 HIT good.

[vale spindle]

Always use up any prints you have but for coins spacing it out is ideal

[sweet delta]

Compiled 15s perfect battles

[quartz breach]

Is Crimson Prelusion not in memories? My connection cut out mid cutscene and I don't see the event in memories.

[forest jasper]

left to prject TB

in events memories

[cobalt rapids]

scroll down

[atomic abyss]

@quartz breach^

[cobalt rapids]

or use nagamis story player

[atomic abyss]

please don't post in multiple channels

not you umi

the guy asked in multiple channels

[spice phoenix]

what should i pick up?

[south gull]

i just started today. do I just push camapaing/grind for commander level?

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

try reading these for a more detailed explanation

but the answer to your question is, push until you get stuck, then grind there until you can push more

up till around w9

[bold salmon]

new augments good?

[atomic abyss]

u-96 definitely helps her, will be worth getting if you use her in your sub comp
long island is now, less bad than she was
still bad

[cobalt rapids]

long island not worth even if it improves her
u96 yes if u use her

[elfin hollow]

can you fully buyout all the SSR and UR mats in opsi every month?

[cobalt rapids]

yes if u grind enough, which means just clearing ur daily ap and clearing the shiny icons

altho not everything gold might be worth buying

[novel solstice]

It's not hard to buy everything remotely interesting from the opsi shops every month. Take the daily quests every day. If there are symbols on your map, go do one of them; repeat until done. If there are no symbols on the map, autosearch on a C5 zone.

[full leaf]

is this an "ok" mob fleet or did i cook up something horrendous (forgive the low levels im just making a third fleet)

[cobalt rapids]

u cooked a non mlb fleet

[buoyant kernel]

What should I buy to increase my comfort?
I got 79 comfort at Captain level 78

[atomic abyss]

why do you need a 3rd fleet is the question really

[wispy pendant]

why not use unicorn?
why use Queen E at all?
It's a very weird fleet

[cobalt rapids]

also its not okay only for lvling, whenever ure pushing the mob fleet should have the ever present unicorn

[full leaf]

ah ok

[wispy pendant]

if it's just for fleet tech farming, use whatever works

[atomic abyss]

as long as it's a full set, it's fine

[buoyant kernel]

Thanks, I got a lot rn so imma choose a set I like

[keen sable]

2 items until they give 0
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Living_Area#Decorations

[hollow gust]

Why would you buy sets , just buy items that actually effect comfort

[full leaf]

but once this fleet has been levelled i plan to use it as a 3rd fleet for opsi, would that fleet work?

[viscid swift]

not really no, it wouldn't be doing much of anything

[atomic abyss]

no because, that's not how you build fleets for opsi

[hollow gust]

That's a really fleet , make good instead of 3 medicore ones

[full leaf]

[atomic abyss]

you start with 1 mob 1 boss
then when progressing to 3 fleets
it's 1 mob, 1 CV fleet, 1 BB fleet

[keen sable]

if you enjoy dying in ops by all means use ryuuhou against bosses

she's very good at murdering allies

[glass quest]

can you use Hindy for both mobbing and bossing or does she have a preference

[umbral briar]

guys fleet power depends on the equipment used, right? , then are there any calculations regarding the equipment?

[hollow gust]

Fleet power is basically total stats , which is a garbage metric on how good a ship is

[umbral briar]

Yes, I know, but is there a calculation regarding the equipment used?

because on the wiki it is a calculation for ship stats, the Fleet Power I mean here is the Fleet Power account

[full leaf]

the cv and bb fleets are exclusively for bosses in opsi?

[boreal wagon]

its calculated by using the sum of individual powers only counting dupes if they are different limit beaks

[full leaf]

ok, didnt see a cv/bb fleet in the samheart guide

[atomic abyss]

because you don't need them in campaign, so you probably didn't notice it

it's specifically for opsi

[hollow gust]

Scroll down

[full leaf]

yup am blind

[keen sable]

it's clearly not a simple sum or average

[boreal wagon]

i mean yeah its not the sum otherwise itd be way higher but p sure it is an average of some sort

which is why i only said "using the sum"

[umbral briar]

Is there a specific calculation? On the wiki there is actually only that for the ship power used, I'm looking for Fleet Power on the account

[zinc hedge]

What is the best ship to buy using merit points? How much should I save?

[boreal wagon]

i believe the calculation is client side iirc so if you really wanted to you could probably find it in some datamine (nvm its server side)

[keen sable]

it's fairly irrelevant. it's pretty clear ship power does affect fleet power and since each ship only has 6 slots and only about 2500 ships can ever count, you know what you need to do

[umbral briar]

ah, maybe there is a misunderstanding, I told you this is Fleet Power on the account, ah actually what is it called, it has the same name, basically your account information is located above the collection

[lament bay]

does gold 30m gear search have better UR odds than a blue 1/2h? Or the only advantage it has is that its faster

[atomic abyss]

yes

[jaunty vault]

yes

[keen sable]

there is no misunderstanding, on my part at least

[umbral briar]

hmm, 6 slots means Aug also counts? Ah, looks like I'm too dizzy, well thanks, maybe I'll try to calculate it myself

[rain vine]

the real question is why does this matter?

[cobalt rapids]

leaderboards

[boreal wagon]

it very much is related to ship power, the server responds with a list of ships whose ship power is then summed up and fleet power is equal to sum ^ 0.667

[umbral briar]

true true

[cobalt rapids]

should count then certain retros aswell

[boreal wagon]

idk what counts since its server side

[sweet delta]

It's a secret

Can't have random players taking our leaderboard spots

[keen sable]

i can confirm augs count toward fleet power so yes 6 slots

[boreal wagon]

the proxy just iterates over a response of ship ids and sums up their respective power and only different limit breaks count (if you have multiple of the same limit break it takes the highest)

[keen sable]

there's definitely a power involved

[boreal wagon]

augments also only indirectly count in the sense that they grant stats which are accounted for the actual augment contributes 0

[keen sable]

is .667 a well known root? like square cube root etc

[atomic abyss]

0.667 is an approximation for 2/3
pretty sure not a well known root

[boreal wagon]

which approximately makes it the 3rd root of x²

[atomic abyss]

i stand corrected then

[boreal wagon]

its equiv to what u said just written as a root like they asked

worth noting is that collab ships don't count which makes sense ig

[keen sable]

my chise collection was foiled

[boreal wagon]

also i think i understood what u meant now, retrofitted versions should count seperated from mlb since it uses configId

[olive pagoda]

I only have enough bulins to mlb one UR ship, do I use it on Mogador, Guam, or Unzen?

[sweet delta]

depends on what other URs you have maxed

[eternal basalt]

Not all uses a seperate copy, most remain the same when retrofit

[eternal basalt]

Wait for JP anniv

[boreal wagon]

well if you read umis original message youd figure from context that i just didnt bother specifcifying that again

[olive pagoda]

I have Laffey II, San Diego, and Agir for other frontline UR

[olive pagoda]

what's coming for JP anni?

[soft raft]

what about your backline URs
Also Sandy doesnt really count in a discussion about UR Limit break prio

[atomic abyss]

if laffey 2 is mlb
probably max unzen
or wait for whatever UR JP may come out with

[eternal basalt]

But an UR for sure

[soft raft]

Highly likely to be a UR event

[eternal basalt]

Yamato

[sweet delta]

you can just get another 3 bulins until and during JP anniv

[full leaf]

will a boss fleet ever need a healer

[sweet delta]

need is a strong word

[soft raft]

not often enough to justify raising a dupe Unicorn

[olive pagoda]

backline has New Jersey, Implacable, Shinano, Bismarck II, and Alsace

[full leaf]

so basically raise unicorn retro and im good for life on healers?

[soft raft]

how close are they to MLB?

[atomic abyss]

you may need "pseudo healers" like aquila and volga later

[olive pagoda]

they're all MLB

[eternal basalt]

Until they release another and everyone treats her like Perseus

[olive pagoda]

the only non MLB backline I have is Soyuz, Vanguard, and the new Napoli

[soft raft]

then just save until JP Anniv rolls around

[keen sable]

goldicorn or uricorn

[olive pagoda]

alright then

[soft raft]

Napoli is a CA
And research ships simillarly dont count for a UR MLB Prio discussion

[olive pagoda]

sorry, I meant the cat one

brainfart

[warm latch]

again, research ships dont matter for UR MLB discussion

youo cant use UR bulins on research ships

[olive pagoda]

so just save and leave unzen, Mogador and guam on 3 stars?

[soft raft]

For now yes

[sweet delta]

.

[olive pagoda]

are they usable at 3 stars?

[atomic abyss]

nope

[soft raft]

Would strongly reccomend not using them at 0LB

[olive pagoda]

back to the storage they go then

[atomic abyss]

if anything, i'd recommend soyuz first anyways

[olive pagoda]

isn't she better in a northern parliament fleet?

[soft raft]

she doesnt require a Northern Parliment fleet to properly function

[sweet delta]

like how bisz is better in an ironblood fleet?

spoiler: ||bisz is not better in an ironblood fleet||

[soft raft]

her yellow skill is a self buff for herself since she's a NP ship and her blue skill for other NP ships is pretty whatever

[atomic abyss]

most URs are strong enough that their faction buffs end up being more of buffs to themselves anyways

[olive pagoda]

wait...so running Agir with her is a bad idea?

[atomic abyss]

it's not that

[soft raft]

no one said that
we're talking about faction fleeting

[olive pagoda]

ohh

[atomic abyss]

it's more of "you should not go out of your way to include ships you wouldn't otherwise cos of faction"

like if you were gonna use agir or hinden anyways, then they'll definitely appreciate the buff from BZ

[boreal wagon]

upon further investigation it seems to just simply respond with all your ships which is confusing if the ~2500 limit was ever confirmed?

[olive pagoda]

I'm too much of filthy casual, I just put my favorites in fleet unless it's for some hardcore boss challenge

[eternal basalt]

2500 limit?

[boreal wagon]

idk unique said that only approximately 2500 ships count towards fleet power but idk how confirmed that is

[sweet delta]

600 ships times 4 limit break levels...

currently only approximately 2500 ships count towards fleet power

[boreal wagon]

yeah but thats not exactly a "limit"

as a current limit it does make sense but in code i dont see an actual limit but the server could also just respond whatever it felt like really (it very much shouldnt tho since the same proxy controls the dock)

[sweet delta]

what's this

[boreal wagon]

an unused plate whose remnants dont exist anymore (or never did i dont remember)

[cobalt rapids]

for autoloader +13

[boreal wagon]

there is also the one that has just a gunshell on it

[sweet delta]

was this used somewhere?

[boreal wagon]

item stats file defines it as ark metas (sync pt) crystal

[cobalt rapids]

yea its here

[jaunty glade]

am i eventually ggoing to have to 3 star the entire campaign?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[jaunty glade]

so instead of grinding normal for commander levels, i should just 3 star everything to save time i guess

[half river]

do the small ship decor pieces you get from completing ship collections add onto to your dorm happiness levels?

[stark quiver]

So this haku ul research showed up, should I take it over the Napoli research? Cuz my haku isn’t d30 yet

[atomic abyss]

i would certainly do that with enough cubes

[atomic abyss]

up to a certain extent

[atomic abyss]

3 starring normal maps is your main f2p method of getting gems so....

[eternal basalt]

Depends, should have ~800 cubes to be save these 2 months

[stark quiver]

I have 515

And I’m 51 prints off haku fs5

[worldly pewter]

u37

[worldly pewter]

man at the start of the game i really underestimated this unicorn ship when i saw ectl put her in the tier ex
but now after experiencing her full potential she deserves ex + + +

[pale mason]

when was shimakaze added to the permanent pool? was she really the 3rd UR released?
is it worth going for her with my next 400 selector or go for more nj dupes

[atomic abyss]

shima was added to the perma pool last month
she was indeed the 3rd UR
no, mlb shinano first, otherwise, yeah go for NJ

[soft raft]

She was added a few weeks ago and yes she really was the 3rd UR released
And what Ender said

[pale mason]

yeah i have shinano mlb'd, so go for nj and shimakaze isn't really a priority? k

[soft raft]

if your NJ is already MLB sure you can get a Shima for collection

[atomic abyss]

neither shima or NJ are prios, but NJ is more prio than shima anyways

[pale mason]

nah nj is still 3*
although idk if she has a spot in my fleets considering musashi should be coming soon
i have fdg, vanguard, alsace for my main bb fleet currently

[soft raft]

Musashi rerun wont be happening for a good while

[pale mason]

oh yeah cus the anniversary event should have URs
probably a couple months then still

[soft raft]

No dates of course, but there's two other SR events in the pipeline to rerun first before her

[soft raft]

JP Anniv highly likely (going off of 3 years of precedent)
EN Anniv highly unlikely due to our proximity to JP Anniv

[pale mason]

jp anniv is this upcoming event right?

[soft raft]

EN

JP Anniv is Sept

[pale mason]

oh i see, so expect a UR in the next month or so though k

[eternal basalt]

Stream tommorrow, 23h from now

[pale mason]

yeah i thought that was for jp anniv oops

[robust jackal]

Is a UR expected for EN Ani?

[worldly pewter]

did they change the time ? from the 20:00 of the fridays

[eternal basalt]

Yes, EU friendly timing

[worldly pewter]

[viscid swift]

the points needed for the event frame make it highly unlikely well get a a gacha UR

[haughty dust]

just finished unlocking all PR/DR 4 ships. While I’m still working on finishing up Haku and Agir. Should I start on Chkalov next? That is who I set as my current ship to work on unlocking.

[eternal basalt]

The store one was never part of the points though, but we'll see

[atomic abyss]

ply probably would be better

[viscid swift]

yes, hence why I said gacha UR

[haughty dust]

which messages this in response to? Mine or somebody else’s.

[atomic abyss]

yours

[haughty dust]

already have Plymouth unlocked. just need to rank her up but right now I’m still trying to finish getting Haku and Agir to dev 30 and then FS5

[eternal basalt]

Gacha: No. Store: Unlikely, but we'll see 23h from now

[atomic abyss]

then doesn't really matter
could go for harbin instead since she's used more

[atomic abyss]

EU friendly timing, not Asian friendly

[pale mason]

iirc agir doesn't have fate sim but yeah

[haughty dust]

well, it’ll have to wait 24 hours then.

[atomic abyss]

definitely harbin first
you can almost dev 30 her

[atomic abyss]

staff was weeping

[eternal basalt]

They have all CN/JP streams the other 11 months of the year

[atomic abyss]

they have to work at 3am

[inner delta]

[worldly pewter]

do u have enough tech for harbin ?

[haughty dust]

Well, the thing about Harbin is this is where the Vanguard ships are for that faction.

[eternal basalt]

Oh, you mean YoStar staff... damn

[cobalt rapids]

what thing am i looking for

[viscid swift]

not brilliant but you can also use just about anything in W12 as well

[atomic abyss]

not having yat sen, tai yuan or chang chun is unfortunate, but well, worth the sac

[viscid swift]

there's still decent ish tech to be farmed

[worldly pewter]

ddgs because fp stonks 📈

[cobalt rapids]

get cc and ty from guildshop

[haughty dust]

huh??? wdym?

here let me do something that may make the whole situation easier to understand.

[worldly pewter]

all ddgs have +1 fp when they reach 120

[soft raft]

Fleet tech shenanigans

[haughty dust]

PR/DR Situation

Maybe the thread I just created will help you better understand my current situation.

[haughty dust]

This isn’t my main game so when you use abbreviations like DDGS I have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t know all the acronyms in this game yet.

[worldly pewter]

izi fix
read and learn
i play 4 gacha games it didn't prevent me from learning

[pale mason]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Category:Guided-missile_destroyers

[sweet delta]

How many copies of Sea Hornet were obtainable without depot crafting and without gear lab crafting?

[viscid swift]

at least 2 I think

[worldly pewter]

is this an ancient event ?

[sweet delta]

any raids?

[viscid swift]

not that I recall

[soft raft]

Nope

[unborn owl]

loadout for alsace & jean bart?

[atomic abyss]

for alsace, depends on content
jb, stuck with the quad 380

actually, just disregard JB's skill and give her the same treatment
not worth buying the gun

[unborn owl]

wdym same treatement?

[atomic abyss]

"depends on content"

[unborn owl]

hmm...

[atomic abyss]

well, i suppose you could craft the quad 380 and convert it to a champagne gun later...

[unborn owl]

alr have both

[atomic abyss]

then just use the quad 380 if you have it

and do consider somewhere not w14/15

[sweet delta]

if you want to go digging through your depot to estimate Gear Lab material income 🚪🏃‍♂️
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PkoP1xWh7ynJjfuh0lCsA9Fj9-2Y5ZXcZrtgnrpPE7I/edit?usp=sharing

[sturdy latch]

how important is the accuracy stat for BBs as opposed to RLD on cats?

[crimson glacier]

i dont think reload is useful like ever on cats so

[sweet delta]

Accuracy talent is as mid for bb as it is for cv

[left cedar]

u know how much u did use ?
woaw ... i already lose the account ..

[crimson glacier]

What

[dawn quarry]

Wat should I do with these medals . I'm beginner

[sweet delta]

[soft raft]

Enterprise (If CVs are in rotation) > Hood (if BBs are in rotation) > Anything else you need >>> Retrofit BPs

[eternal basalt]

Specialised core is great to limit break URs

[atomic abyss]

none of them is the answer here

[soft raft]

all of those are very low prio
You get Eugen for free on day 8 login anyways

[dawn quarry]

alr

[reef flume]

They're good only for tech

[dawn quarry]

il save then ?

[atomic abyss]

so the bulins will be your priorities, the gold ones
get them when you need to

[dawn quarry]

kk

[atomic abyss]

in the meantime

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

will be good references

[signal pollen]

What’s a secret ticket

[soft raft]

3 of them unlocks what's essentially ASMR

[signal pollen]

3 💀 where do I redeem them

[stark quiver]

monthly login
or with

[soft raft]

memories -> Secrets

[soft raft]

he was asking where to redeem the tickets not obtain them 💀

[stark quiver]

💀

[worldly pewter]

👀

[forest palm]

[ocean shard]

so how useful is Long Island's augment? (I may have already built it and taken it to +10)

[stark quiver]

you use it like every other augment...

[atomic abyss]

well it definitely makes her stronger...
she's just not shit anymore

[warm flax]

How many more clears?

[atomic abyss]

not good, not average, just not shit

[stark quiver]

i may have en'd

[stark quiver]

you need 6 iirc to full clear

[ocean shard]

welp, she's one of 4 carriers i have leveled so she's getting fielded

[warm flax]

Idk I lost track

[atomic abyss]

you should probably look for better carriers

unicorn, saratoga and ark royal are the good non SR options

[undone plover]

2 more for 100%

[ocean shard]

unicorn, saratoga, and enty are the other 3

[warm flax]

Alright, time for more restarts

[atomic abyss]

no other SR carriers?

[ocean shard]

tho I'm also a gal who is using Oklahoma and awakened her. uuuh I probably have them but not leveled?

[atomic abyss]

at least use pennsylvania...

[ocean shard]

Lexington, Yorktown, Hornet, Houshou, Shouhou, Souryuu, Ark

[atomic abyss]

ark it is then

[ocean shard]

but I don't like her personality

[atomic abyss]

well you're not gonna get august van parseval for a while
the alternative is use another BB then

[atomic abyss]

these are elites btw, not SR
SR = gold

[ocean shard]

My only SR CV is Enterprise lmfao

I just listed off all the ones I had. I didn't realize how few I had

[atomic abyss]

i have to ask, where in the campaign are you exactly

[ocean shard]

50% through 8-4

[atomic abyss]

Ah, so you haven't even reached the point where a second fleet is worth looking into (9-1)

[hollow gust]

Enterprise Saratoga Unicorn is more then enough CVs for a long long time

[atomic abyss]

i'd look into BBs if anything

[hollow gust]

If you insist then grab a independence from core data shop, Ark Royal is a troll pick for campaign

[ocean shard]

I managed to clear and grind my first D3 during the last event tho!

tbh, once Ark hits lv 70 I'm burning her

[atomic abyss]

troll pick is a gross exaggeration

[hollow gust]

Ark Royal is something you level later on for single target bossing not campaign. She has literally 0 fighters , a garbage dive bomber slot and only viable torpedo

[worldly pewter]

18% per clear

[wispy pendant]

By the time you want to level up Ark Royal, you should have a full dev AvP.

[atomic abyss]

that is untrue for most people

fs5 AvP isn't something you can achive quickly

[hollow gust]

Either way , troll asf

[atomic abyss]

it's not like he has anything better

[worldly pewter]

i think i m 100% with this

[hollow gust]

He doesn't need it ? I'll rather have 3 CVs then a 4th being Ark Royal

[atomic abyss]

unless he's rolling in better BBs

ark isn't just all about her slow lol

[ocean shard]

This is where I'm at with SRs. I'm a gal who sees cute bote, rolls for cute boat

[wispy pendant]

Ark Royal has one of the hottest oath skins, so she’s still relevant for that reason.

[worldly pewter]

what is this ?

[stark quiver]

a sovetskaya and a non mlb enty

[ocean shard]

Ran outta bulins last week

[atomic abyss]

why are there 2 enterprises is the better question

[ocean shard]

Bc I don't wanna waste a gold bulin when I could get a dupe

[soft raft]

XP boost as part of the call to arms event

[soft raft]

why the hell is your dupe Enty lvl 14 then

[worldly pewter]

no i meant an mlb soviet and non mlb enty

[atomic abyss]

it is very unlikely that you will get another dupe
just use the dupe and a bulin and mlb her

[ocean shard]

Because the damn commissions keep picking her and I have to manually remove

[viscid swift]

first, just focus on getting one or 2 fleets worked up
2nd, non MLB ships are garbage

[ocean shard]

I mean she's in the medal shop this month

[atomic abyss]

commissions don't auto pick level 1 ships btw...

[ocean shard]

It did

[hollow gust]

[desert tapir]

When I use Ryuuhou should I Just Transfer Uni's gear over?

[hollow gust]

Yes it does???

[atomic abyss]

why are you using ryuuhou even

[cobalt rapids]

commmissions only pick locked ships above lv1

[atomic abyss]

goose please

[viscid swift]

it most certainly does not, you have to manually select them the first time or they just don't get picked up
this is from years of experience

[ocean shard]

She wasn't locked at first

[hollow gust]

My lile acc was picking lvl1s up

[desert tapir]

Need to level her affection. Will be Grinding exp for pr ship

[atomic abyss]

ah well, if you're not using uni anywhere else, sure why not

[ocean shard]

And the leveled Soviet botes are because they are cute and strong

[viscid swift]

also among other things, do not assume higther rarity automatically means better for anything in AL and that includes ships

[cobalt rapids]

its been like this for months

[night dirge]

What is a good way to get wisdom cubes

[viscid swift]

playing the game, literally

[atomic abyss]

commissions, daily missions

you can't "farm" cubes per se

it's more about better management of the cubes you get from other sources

[worldly pewter]

when u get a dupe from the gacha the game doesn't auto lock it

[ocean shard]

Yeah that doesn't shock me, but I'm also leveling the parlament botes to get my hands on Nahkimov and Chkalov. (I just need littorio to drop and level)

[hollow gust]

Playing the game , getting urgent cube commissions as much as you can

[desert tapir]

Two healers seemed redundant. Not sure if Ryuuhou warrants specific plane build. Thank you

[hollow gust]

You should not be going for those ships

[atomic abyss]

you literally will not be able to use them for anything even remotely challenging

[viscid swift]

at least get to World 9 first, preferably W12 before farming PR ships and tech

[atomic abyss]

you can't use bulins on them

[atomic abyss]

you can't spend coins on any ship after PR4, so no fast track there

[ocean shard]

Yeah I know. I have 94 nahkimovs

[atomic abyss]

and you need 513 for both napoli and nakhimov
each

[worldly pewter]

man still doing pr1 and thinking about pr7

[viscid swift]

you need 513 to Dev 30 a DR

[ocean shard]

And I mostly just used BPs on Louis.

[viscid swift]

tell me, do you know what oil caps are

[atomic abyss]

he's at 8-4

[worldly pewter]

[ocean shard]

all I know is that I'm out of oil

[viscid swift]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[desert tapir]

... wait. You used Blueprints on Louis.?

[ocean shard]

yeah the catchup gave me 300

[viscid swift]

in hsort, farming becomes vastly more efficienct once you get to W9 and even further still up to W12 in the main campaign

[ocean shard]

on top of focusing PR1 for a bit

[worldly pewter]

man got his things a little bit messed up here

[ocean shard]

I'm an ambitious girl

[viscid swift]

part of the reason why you're out is that you're having to spend a lot more oil to spend a lot less because you're still in world 8

[desert tapir]

Oh.. okay. Was worried for a moment that you spent the t7 BP on a t1

[viscid swift]

I would call this less so ambition and moreso foolish

because you're making things so much harder for yourself to achieve your goals for no good reason frankly

[worldly pewter]

so if u want to do things right u should follow what people are saying in this chat most of the time

[viscid swift]

like if you were in W12, farming coins and XP would be much quicker, you'd probably have less issues with oil, and you'd be generating XP packs because you'd be using level 100+ ships to farm so you could tech much more quickly as well

and I'm not saying this all to be mean, I'm genuinely frustrated because you've made things so much harder for yourself unecessarily

[worldly pewter]

but if someone plays their own way without looking for advice making these mistakes is inevitable i think

[atomic abyss]

it is

ultimately, it's fine to disregard our advice
but at the end of the day, we are only trying to give you the quickest way to reach your goal

...even if said goal is gonna take many months

[ocean shard]

Yeah this is basically the first time i've asked for advice since I started during Martyrium

[worldly pewter]

especially when the game has multiple mechanics to learn

[viscid swift]

among other things, these should be you imeediate goals right now
forget about farming PR and tech, you can't do it efficiently and it'll just hinder your progress
focus on getting to Chapter 9 at the very least right now and start working on getting 2 competent fleets together for the push to Chapter 12

[worldly pewter]

cheeky this is their dock #gameplay-help message

no alsace though

or mogador now that i think about it

[viscid swift]

once you're in Chapter 12 this is when you can turn your attenion to things like PR because you have the resources and spot to farm to be able to do efficiently and comfortably

[worldly pewter]

did u grab at least the UR gun ?

[ionic mango]

Hello. Question, should i spend ur bulins on my NJ to MLB or should i just draw from normal banner for her?

[cobalt rapids]

lb her with dupes but dont pull perma banner for her specifically

just do ur 1 light build /day and accumulate pity

[stark quiver]

never spend cubes on normal banner

[ocean shard]

No I do have mogador, and her UR gun

I just sorted for SRs since that's what ya asked for

[worldly pewter]

did u grab vanguard ?

[ionic mango]

i have 10k for 2 UR bulins, just buy it then MLB nj?

[ocean shard]

she gave me the middle finger

[cobalt rapids]

what are ur other URs

[soft raft]

save for now
We are highly likel to have a UR event in september

[cobalt rapids]

either way i wouldnt mlb NJ rn

[ocean shard]

Other URs? lol, lmao

[viscid swift]

just start a thread and post your whole dock there, we have a lot of work to do

[atomic abyss]

i'll leave y'all to it
6am here

[ionic mango]

ok thank you

[worldly pewter]

sleep tight

[bold salmon]

the next event is not ur?

[worldly pewter]

u can make a thread posting in it all of ur dock

[cobalt rapids]

we dont know, but prob not

[viscid swift]

99% certain there will not be a gacha UR next event

[ocean shard]

Yeah one sec, had to finish this run before doing my screenshots

[cobalt rapids]

i got around same averages except plans which i think is coz u didnt use selectors
so ig its safe to say the income per month is around 100 for mats

[robust jackal]

Worth building? Proto trip 380 and proto quad 330.

[cobalt rapids]

bottom yes if u need more champy sidegrades, top no

[zinc hedge]

How to lv up from 100 to 105? I have lv 100 z23 but capped..

[robust jackal]

They're not as good as the trip 406?

[zinc hedge]

How to use it?

[cobalt rapids]

sidegrades means interchangeable

[robust jackal]

Gotcha thanks

[zinc hedge]

New here

[cobalt rapids]

tap awakening

[maiden jewel]

i have 33 of these

is that bad?

i dont know how to use them

[worldly pewter]

shipyard ship mechanic

[remote yarrow]

Not bad but moreso of a why do you have those

[cobalt rapids]

, give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[viscid swift]

you probably aren't in a position to focus on PR then so just ignore them for the time being

[maiden jewel]

imma read the guide and i'll be back with more questions

[sweet delta]

I often don't buy gold plans anyways

[worldly pewter]

i prefer u take it slowly so u don't overwhelm urself

[ocean shard]

A girl skk who is making her way in this bitch of an ocean (dock situation)

[zinc hedge]

Thx

[remote yarrow]

That's a title for a thread

[sweet delta]

~~relatable ~~

[ocean shard]

Whenever I'm left to my devices to make thread/channel names, it goes pure stream of consciousness baybee

[left cedar]

she seens like that new mangas of isekais that name almost spoils wut gona happen in anime

[vale spindle]

New thread meta

[plush nebula]

Hello has much changed in the land of clearing 14-4 since my last appearance

[grizzled wave]

is it worth using my lvl 10 hazemeyer for a staag in gear lab or shud i wait until i get another lvl 1 hazemeyer

[blissful hamlet]

who is foo?

[strong tartan]

Other vanguard ships iirc

Wait friends is other vanguard ships I think

[left cedar]

Foo is a imaginary friend of her, if she is alone in VG, she gona count as 2 ships, cuz her imaginary friend will be there for her

[blissful hamlet]

delusional ship

[remote yarrow]

If you aren't missing Haze/Staags for other ships after doing so go ahead, you get a full refund if you upgrade in gearlab

[plush nebula]

How many mob fleets to kill to unlock boss

[remote yarrow]

In 14-4? I think it was 7

[plush nebula]

And how do i stop getting ambushed

[remote yarrow]

Higher AA and Recon

[left cedar]

6 in W12
7 in 13-4 and foward
5 under W10? dont remember

[keen sable]

more cv and dd

[grizzled wave]

i only have 1 staag and 2 hazemeyers 21 of 25 prints for another hazemeyer so if i use one hazemeyer i will have 1 hazemeyer and 2 staags

[remote yarrow]

Seems fine to me

[grizzled wave]

fine to use one up for staag?

[maiden jewel]

is it cool to spend these or should i wait? (i get so nervous of spending resources in a non efficent way)

[remote yarrow]

You are gonna want to save those to get the UR Bulin to Limit break URs, no need to spend them until needed
They are also needed to buy some retrofit items but don't worry about it rn

[maiden jewel]

thank you!!!

[remote yarrow]

So as an example, we are probably getting a new UR in september and an UR needs either 4 UR Bulin or Dupes (not recommended to pull for) so that's when you buy them, don't clog your dock by buying them whenever you are able to (4k Spec cores each) like I've seen some ppl do

[trim sparrow]

Sup guys is there a guide for the pr7 gear i can see? Coming up on being able to craft some, wanna know how they stack up to other gear

[wispy pendant]

gear guide looks updated

[remote yarrow]

UR Fighter good, VIT-2 is decent and Twin 410mm is a good AP gun for Musashi

[trim sparrow]

Cool thanks

[remote yarrow]

And like Usui said check out sam's gear guide, it's updated

[trim sparrow]

Yea im on sam’s guide right now, right on

[wispy pendant]

napoli gun is bad? I just checked 😭

[remote yarrow]

It's decent if you don't have Hinden or the Improved SKC against Med

[wispy pendant]

also bear cat worse against light than Suisei seaplane? That's a shame, I was hoping it was better everywhere

[wispy pendant]

for med armor, it's awful against heavy and light

very very niche gun

[remote yarrow]

Well CA guns aren't specially good outside of the URs tho

[wispy pendant]

i guess, but was hoping anything related to a DR would be basically good everywhere if not new powercreep

it's okay, I'll still like Napoli

[plush nebula]

14-4 im getting toasted at boss fleet

[cobalt rapids]

what are u using

[plush nebula]

#993179941980090398 message

[cobalt rapids]

thats a 2022 thread

[plush nebula]

I decided to try clearing w14 today again

[remote yarrow]

Maybe you got better options now?

Post your dock again in there

[stark quiver]

"round 5"

[plush nebula]

This is what i dont have also my PR lvls are dogshit

[cobalt rapids]

~~was w14 released before acv ? ~~

post ur whole dock in the thread again pls

filtered by main and then by vanguards

[worldly pewter]

i think it is better to just post the gear since he has everything

[remote yarrow]

Doesn't say much cuz we don't know who's leveled and their Dev levels

[worldly pewter]

but still having everything and getting stuck

[remote yarrow]

He's using a 2022 fleet

[worldly pewter]

he already posted his dock

[remote yarrow]

Back in 2022 tho

[worldly pewter]

no 2 min ago

[remote yarrow]

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message

[cobalt rapids]

that doesnt rly tell us anything besides collection %

[remote yarrow]

wow that surely helps, not knowing the ships he has leveled and the Dev levels of the PRs

[worldly pewter]

levels isn't important since u just tell him to level the ships he will be using
prs he said they are bad and can also still work on them
although why are they bad for someone who has 96%

so what left and most importantly should be the gear

[finite crag]

96% just mean they roll on banners very dilligently

[worldly pewter]

which should mean an active player

[finite crag]

doesnt say much

[cobalt rapids]

i dont know what they have limit broken or not esp URs and pr again is important to know
it doesnt rly take that much effort to repost dock tho + i dont wanna scroll through hundreds of posts everytime to reach top of the thread

[remote yarrow]

You would be surprised on how many ppl have high collection % with bad gear or underleveled/non dev ships, aka most "veterans" in #al-general who just care about collection

[finite crag]

When being “active” is just autoing a few fucking battles a day

[wispy pendant]

dumb argument, just start a thread and go from there

[remote yarrow]

Collection % doesn't mean anything if the account has bad gear or whatever

[wispy pendant]

anyone who is having trouble with 14-4 but is at 96% collection isn't as active as you would think

[finite crag]

Surely doing my dalies gives me knowledge on how to gear ships and what ships are good get real

[late flame]

i am afk 90% of the time while at work so i am counted as active amirite

[wispy pendant]

that said I'm having trouble with 15-3, so I'm a newb too.

[charred pollen]

What’s a fleet for the meta fight, been too lazy to do them

[remote yarrow]

Wasn't there a guide pilica made?

[late flame]

doubt he'd wanna read that 30+pages lol

[worldly pewter]

pilica's guide for a lazy person
sounds not right

[soft raft]

I think it got unpinned at one point
dunno if anyone has a link to it

[remote yarrow]

Time to check his logs in gph

[worldly pewter]

#gameplay-help message

[stark quiver]

What should my next ur gear be?

[remote yarrow]

Well Blaster sent an image and there's a 30 page guide from pilica good luck Takagi

[worldly pewter]

are u done from w15 ?

[stark quiver]

yea not 3 star tho

[worldly pewter]

if u are gaving massive trouble on 15-4 u can consider another french aa

[charred pollen]

[wispy pendant]

is the top one best one?

[stark quiver]

not much trouble ngl

[remote yarrow]

Maybe some DD gun or AA for W15?

Or more Wyverns for flex

[stark quiver]

i was thinking of a third mk7
since i dont rly need a third 457

[worldly pewter]

what is missing from the collection is the drake gun and another ply gun that is it imo

or just save

[stark quiver]

soon™️

[remote yarrow]

Well that's PR

[stark quiver]

[blissful hamlet]

how many +13 black/white shell I should have?

[remote yarrow]

wow you are dry on protocore

[remote yarrow]

3 white shells at least idk if you need black ones

[stark quiver]

id have to agree with that

[late flame]

1st BB fleet : No helena, low chance of one-hit kill
2nd BB fleet : same comment
1st CV fleet - recommended : F6F hvar +13 3 or more, high chance of one-hit kill
2nd cv fleet - no implacable fleet, low chance of one-hit kill
Last one being newbie fleet : assumes no UR before Soyuz

[rapid grail]

at least 3 of each imo

[soft raft]

white shell > Black shell for +13 prio

[blissful hamlet]

what about +13 HSFCR

[rapid grail]

the black shells are nice

[stark quiver]

not rly

[soft raft]

black shell isnt really used much if you use HSFCR

[blissful hamlet]

I don't use HSFCR

[remote yarrow]

AFCTs and HSFCRs have higher prio than black shells

[wispy pendant]

i always use table or hpfcr

[blissful hamlet]

yeah but I don't really use timing aux except on arbiter fight

[rapid grail]

C'mon man you PvP but never use +13 hsfcrs.

[blissful hamlet]

I mean I have one for pvp but what I'm asking is for pve

[remote yarrow]

Check out /plus13 I guess

[rapid grail]

+13 AFCT and hsfcrs good on both gamemodes

[blissful hamlet]

they still better than black shell even if I don't need timing?

[remote yarrow]

They are good regardless

[keen sable]

if you don't need anything then nothing matters

[blissful hamlet]

yeah but are they better than black shell if I don't need timing?

[rapid grail]

In pure DMG, no

[keen sable]

if want to one shot a meta you better have a +13 afct or whatever the flavor of the month is and not random junk

[blissful hamlet]

I have +13 afct

but does hsfcr is better than black sheel if I don't need timing?

I guess it's a no then

[stark quiver]

is a +10 hvarcat comparable to a +13 109g

[blissful hamlet]

no

[vale spindle]

you get similar enough performance with any of the combinations

hsfcr has the benefit of potentially allowing extra shots thats bascially it

if you don't need the timing it doesn't matter, if you need the timing you better make sure the timing either uses hsfcr or doesn't, and make it consistent amongst all your ship skill(s) as much as possible

if a ship is good regardless of skill syncing then you should use the ship and ignore the skill syncing

[vale spindle]

*rainbow table combinations are better than double shells for damage

[blissful hamlet]

thank you samheart for giving clear concise and helpful answer

[cobalt rapids]

on light

[limpid warren]

Is there a good chance the rainbow table will get added to gear lab? I missed vanguard rerun cause of vacation

[remote yarrow]

Either never or not for a really long time but we never know

[limpid warren]

Aight

[keen sable]

i think it's a dive bomber. can you imagine how much damage it would do if it fell onto someone

[soft raft]

highly doubt it would be added to gear lab due to the utter lack of craftable aux gear in the gear lab

Either that changes between now and then or it's gonna be added to the core data shop like with the Z Flag

[rapid grail]

it will

:/ bummed after the devs added NJ gun to gear lab

[blissful hamlet]

how can it be never? was there a non collab event gear that was never added on perma before?

[remote yarrow]

Dude knows stuff we don't

[blissful hamlet]

beth is always correct cuz he's better than me

[rapid grail]

will take a while though

[remote yarrow]

And what if it doesn't?

[blissful hamlet]

if beth said it then it must be true

[remote yarrow]

Or if it gets added to core shop like Blaster said

You are speculating or making up stuff

[blissful hamlet]

what is your argument as to why it'll never be added?

[remote yarrow]

Cuz we never know what devs will do?

[blissful hamlet]

was there a non collab event gear that was never added on perma before?

[keen sable]

@blissful hamlet

[soft raft]

it took Z flag literal years to be added to perma
I think that's more what he meant by "never"

[tulip dawn]

Please do not talk about speculative content like it’s confirmed. It’s not only unhelpful but also often devolves into dumb arguments. Thanks!

[blissful hamlet]

never = a long time

[late flame]

can it bro

[soft raft]

either way this whole argument has been completely asinine, they'll add it when its time

[blissful hamlet]

literally no different than what beth said

[tulip dawn]

Move on fellas.

[leaden wigeon]

This is a quick one but is the UR Royal Navy Heavy Crusier gun worth crafting?

[remote yarrow]

Drake Gun?

[leaden wigeon]

The one in the gear lab

[keen sable]

craft yes, change no?

[soft raft]

Triple 234 isnt really a high prio compared to the other UR gear in gear lab but compared to the other 2 UR CA guns, it's more of a jack of all trades with good damage mods against all armor types

[leaden wigeon]

Okay thanks I had the materials to craft it and just wanted to see if it was better to craft or hold my mats for something else

[finite crag]

if you dont know what to craft dont craft anything

[jaunty glade]

if i queue up a comission research project, does the commissions i do while its in queue count?

[keen sable]

X because you can't queue something you haven't finished

[jaunty glade]

ohhhhhhhh

[soft raft]

also why the fuck would you take that research

[jaunty glade]

doesn't cost mats?

[remote yarrow]

It's bad

[soft raft]

that typically means that it's got terrible rewards as well

[jaunty glade]

is there something quick/easy that shows which ones i should be focusing on?

[soft raft]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[leaden wigeon]

I'm farming for UR main gun prints and just randomly got enough mats for the CA gun so I was just checking if it had any important use

[jaunty glade]

ty

[keen sable]

poor is poor

[remote yarrow]

What world/campaign stage are you at?

[jaunty glade]

campaign 6, stuck at 43 commander level to progress to campaign 7

[remote yarrow]

Cuz if you aren't at W12 you probably won't be able to have a good and consistent research uptime

[finite crag]

also depends on if you have any ships decent enough to make good use of it, just hold on to mats until you need to craft something specific

[frank pulsar]

youre not ready yet to start on pr, i suggest you just pick free research for now until youre at least at stage 9-1

[remote yarrow]

Keep pushing campaign and leave research as a side thing, take B types if possible for now and some C ones since they are free

[frank pulsar]

why am i getting hyperstared at

[remote yarrow]

idk ask UniqueName

But W9 doesn't really give you that many coins for research tho

[viscid swift]

it doesn't leave you a lot spare

[frank pulsar]

it at least better than w6

i think coining should be feasible at least, it just 3k per day for one pr ship

[ocean shard]

Is this a decent torp

[rapid grail]

fine as transitional torp gear. doesn't have magnetic capabilities

[remote yarrow]

Nope, it's decent on manual but don't you won't really manual most of the time

[ocean shard]

Ah

Eh, will make 1 in that case then but won't worry about getting more of them in the future

[sinful elk]

Chat between Alsace and NJ who has the better shelling?

[sweet delta]

Why make 1 just because? It's a waste of resources

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#surface_torpedoes Check this out for other and better torpedoes

[sweet delta]

Either make and enhance and use it, or don't make it

[ocean shard]

Because it's better than all my other torpedoes

[soft raft]

Prob Alsace
outside of the fact that you're comparing the newest UR BB to the oldest UR BB

[ocean shard]

Ok not all others, I've got 2 other SR torps

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Quadruple_Torpedo_Mount#Type_3-0 This one isn't that hard to get and it's a decent transitional torpedo

[sinful elk]

i dunno who to put nj gun on

[ocean shard]

My bad, it was 3 sr torps.

[remote yarrow]

Well there you have 2 way better torps

[ocean shard]

Okie. I've barely built anything aside from a few more purple repair kits

[remote yarrow]

Tbh just forget about using Fleuret

[viscid swift]

might wanna give Sam's gear guide in #bot-spam /equip a read

[remote yarrow]

She's a bad ship

[soft raft]

These are the ones you should be aiming for

[viscid swift]

suprised no one redirected you to it in your thread

[soft raft]

This is a better version but only one copy has been obtainable so far so give this to your best DD

[ocean shard]

Fleuret was because I didn't have anyone else who could help me clear the Trp check for the last event.

Ah.

[cobalt rapids]

giving it to kasumi meta

[ocean shard]

I still haven't kitted Kasumi meta

[soft raft]

dont

[cobalt rapids]

yea dont

[viscid swift]

yeah that was a joke

[remote yarrow]

They asked for fleets and I'm playing BTD6 🚪 🏃‍♂️

[ocean shard]

Oh. Dang, I was gonna level her like I did foch

[remote yarrow]

Well that's another bad ship

[soft raft]

Yeesh

[ocean shard]

Aw no. (I started the game bc of her)

I thought foch meta was cute and saw she was a BP ship. Other bote I'm waiting for is kursk

[viscid swift]

you'll be waiting for a bit then

[soft raft]

general rule of thumb is that Cruise Pass METAs are dogshit for any pratical purposes outside of late game Fleet tech grind or some extordinarily niche use like Fortune META had in #pvp

[viscid swift]

probably another few months at least until her event gets archived and you'll have to wait for a few more months still to have a chance at pulling for her with a rate up

[soft raft]

(If they skip the rerun for her event which is kinda hard to tell due to its more unique formatting)

[viscid swift]

coins toss honestley at this point

[soft raft]

yeah its weird when its a mix of raid and SP
but for now I've categorized it and simillar events as SP but ive been considering giving them their own category

[ocean shard]

:c

I have a promise ring and her hunter skin waiting for her (Kursk)

[ebon oxide]

can your shipgirls gain morale/mood without dorm food?

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

the dorm food is mainly to boost XP gain in dorm

[sinful elk]

Chat do i need like a 2nd NJ gun

[ebon oxide]

i see. good thing I chose not to splurge on dorm food using oil.

[finite crag]

depends on what else you dont have

[sinful elk]

I uhh have 2 wyverns and 1 nj gun 1 tenrai

I hope its not going to be a 3rd wyvern

[remote yarrow]

Does he know?

[soft raft]

[viscid swift]

it's not actually

[sinful elk]

nahh fuck it im going to get a spearfish

[remote yarrow]

don't

[finite crag]

crafting just for the sake of crafting is not smart

if you dont need anything you dont need to craft anything

[viscid swift]

among other things they use different resources and a 457 has higher priority for T3 Oridnance resports than a spearfish

[sinful elk]

Hmm i guess i need something hits hard against heavy armor?

[stark quiver]

which isnt the fucking spearfish

[finite crag]

champagne gun

[sinful elk]

[viscid swift]

then none of the craftable UR gears are gonna help with that

[worldly pewter]

u need first to know what u want to do before crafting

[sinful elk]

What about georgia gun

[soft raft]

it wont be able to consistently sync with Helena

[viscid swift]

the Georgia gun's strengths are primarily on mobbing, it is a very competent gun on bossing but often not optimal outside of campaign

[sinful elk]

[sinful elk]

Is there really no AP gun in lab thats worth

[soft raft]

in the specifc context you're asking for?
not really outside of Champagne gun

[remote yarrow]

Champy is in there

But it's better to get it from protocore

You can make one if you are in a hurry of getting 3/3

[sinful elk]

Uhh i want to blast the shit of out the bosses in opsi

[soft raft]

[sinful elk]

Ain like the guide said i don't need another champy gun

[remote yarrow]

Huh

[soft raft]

you already have 3?
or 2 and Soyuz gun?

[sinful elk]

[finite crag]

you only have 1

[soft raft]

"I dont need another champy gun"

Has only 1
Yeah I dont think so

[finite crag]

there are more pressing matters at hand than thinking about what ur gear to craft

[sinful elk]

I think i have dementia

[worldly pewter]

+11 mk6

[remote yarrow]

I was crazy once

nvm let's not

[sinful elk]

Gotta craft the champy guns

[finite crag]

great idea!

[sinful elk]

What about drake's gun tho

[finite crag]

.

[soft raft]

Focus on crafting the champagne guns first
Drake gun aint going anywhere

[finite crag]

do you even have a single ship that would benefit more from a drake gun than how much a bb would benefit from champagne??

[uncut oar]

The bigger question is why are we discussing drekgun when you are explicitly told you need AP BB gun

And you were looking for AP BB gun

[finite crag]

shiny good i guess

[uncut oar]

Shiny not good. Cost wack. reject rainbow embrace gold and purple

okay but really, if you have not enough champy gun it's not even a discussion

[viscid swift]

and like I said earlier, 457 is a higher priority for T3 Ordinance reports
it's primarily a mobbing gun but that just so happens to be what later campaign stages orient more towards

[sinful elk]

[smoky palm]

How much does this augment improve U-96 btw? made it just cuz she's part of my sub team and why not

[thorn tartan]

i just finished s5. should i work on the s6 or s7 next?

[blissful hamlet]

How is Napoli damage compared to CB?

[frank pulsar]

iirc just above agir

[finite crag]

as in research?

[thorn tartan]

full strength

[finite crag]

so dev30 all of pr5?

[thorn tartan]

and fs

[frank pulsar]

it supposed to be pretty good
i have no idea if this pulls wolfpack ahead of fishpack though

[remote yarrow]

Suchi said it doesn't

[finite crag]

7 i guess

[thorn tartan]

okay, i've obtained all of 6 but haven't farmed the bps yet. i've unlocked the carrier in 7 and i'm about to unlock the battleship

[stark quiver]

did u do w15 yet?

[thorn tartan]

no, i just got to 14-4. what can i expect here

[stark quiver]

14-4 expect subs and your fleet to take giga damage,
id say go for shimanto in pr6 for a easier time clearing w15

[thorn tartan]

does s7 have better ur gear?

[slow fox]

Why would you trust :suchidoubt:

[remote yarrow]

idk he's one of the few ppl who actually know about Subs?

[stark quiver]

i mean if you have enough AA u dont need shimanto

[remote yarrow]

I guess?

[thorn tartan]

i have guam max...... san diego is around level 116

[stark quiver]

laffey 2?

[thorn tartan]

haven't worked on L2 yet

[hollow gust]

shimato is only if u are trying w15

[stark quiver]

well chances are youre prolly gonna get nuked by planes
grey read up a bit

[thorn tartan]

well it will be a long time then. getting the bps in s6 could take a couple months

[stark quiver]

I mean....... not if u hard focus shimanto

which i totally did not do and do not recommend

[remote yarrow]

Huh

[hollow gust]

whats wrong with saying u get shimanto if u are trying w15

[remote yarrow]

Who else would you focus in PR6 tho

Flandre and Felix aren't really used that much

[stark quiver]

i may have speedran shimanto, got her done in like a few weeks

[remote yarrow]

Atleast I just used 330 General PR6 BPs on Shimanto just when I got her to insta Dev 30

[stark quiver]

i used like 10 on her

[worldly pewter]

yeah if u had been playing regularly u can do shimanto in 3 weeks at max

i had to focus her for around 2 weeks but also i fully exchanged the medals

[indigo kestrel]

Does anyone know the drop rate for ChouKai on 12-4?

[hollow gust]

its not public

[remote yarrow]

/droprate

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: What are the drop rates for __?
A: Map drop rates are unknown and cannot be datamined, due to being server-side. The only one known is 0.75% for Akagi/Kaga (individually) on 3-4. Community data collection suggests the other gold ship drop rates are somewhat similar, however.

Q: Then where should I farm for __?
A: Farm the highest map you can for it. Higher stages give more EXP, upgrade parts, equipment, and shop currency. Community data collection suggests the drop rates are also probably higher on higher worlds.

[indigo kestrel]

Dang

[plain saffron]

in mail you can claim all rewards even the unread one right?

[unique lantern]

so i finally finished dev 30 ägir today, but neither the mission completes nor the lab lets me see the fate sim menu, already deployed her and restarted :c do i like need 1 more bp or something? am i blind? for roon it let me into fate sim immediately

[soft raft]

She doesnt have one yet

[unique lantern]

ya but the mission 😭

[plain saffron]

if the game doesn't show fs5 it's because it doesn;t exist

try restart game

[soft raft]

could be a desync, try restarting the game

[plain saffron]

if still doesn't work contact cs

[soft raft]

(currrently Agir, Plymouth, Brest, all of PR6, and all of PR7 do not have fate sims)

[unique lantern]

i know we are all discord users who cant read (🙏) but i already did that and deployed as stated in my message

i guess the mission stays until it will decide it wants to work

[viscid swift]

I got nothing then, try a few more times

[finite crag]

don't get your knickers in a twist its 2 cruiser retro mats

[signal leaf]

What does the angle in torpedo stats do? I get the cone angle but whats that

[wispy cosmos]

firing angle, the sector in front of a ship enemies have to be for torps to fire

[signal leaf]

what?

[soft raft]

to dumb it down a bit, the wider the cone, the wider their firing angles

[viscid swift]

pretty much what it sounds like, torpedoes can only fire at an angle so far off the axis(in this case imagine a line across the length of your screen)

[plain saffron]

contact customer service

[signal leaf]

wont like the second torpedo have a greater angle than the first one if they like spread out

[plain saffron]

if spread and aiming angle is both 45 it's kinda like this

[soft raft]

and the spread doesnt really matter as much if you're using magnetic ones, esp on auto

[plain saffron]

aiming? firing? idk which is correct tl anymore

[signal leaf]

could you explain the second image

[viscid swift]

the second image is showing the individual torps in a quint mount

[rapid grail]

quintuple torp's middle torp can't go past 45 degree angle of fire

[plain saffron]

it's a quint torp as example yes

[frank pulsar]

imagine youre using a quint torp
that cone is the firing angle at which it can fire, and the red line indicate each individual torp's path

[remote yarrow]

The torpedoes when fired have a 45 angle, but on top of that the firing angle is 45

[signal leaf]

why are the red lines going outside the cone tho

[keen sable]

pattern error

[plain saffron]

i'm trying my best with ms paint

[urban spruce]

What are some CV aux items to look out for?

[viscid swift]

Steam Catapults, that's pretty much it

[keen sable]

steam catapult and aviation oil tank

[viscid swift]

Homing Beacon and Aviation Manjuu for the occasional timing needs

[urban spruce]

What about the ones in core shop?

[sharp socket]

beacon and manjuu for timing adjust only

you can get antisub plane aux from gearlab

[urban spruce]

Kay

So 100/150 fuel less effective than normal aviation oil tank?

[keen sable]

they do different things

[rapid grail]

avgas is pretty niche

i.e. #pvp gear
otherwise just using gold catas is better

[urban spruce]

Is boosting plane HP not worth it?

[soft raft]

lol
lmao even

[viscid swift]

the HP boost is negligible for practical purposes

so you're just -40 AVI stat at that point

[urban spruce]

Kay, thank you!

[rapid grail]

in campaign, no. even in w13H your planes just get shot down regardless by the flyswatter CLs

only content where its relevant is in pvp where plane health matters more

[thorn tartan]

In my research academy, at the bottom right, there is a little box that says "Remaining 26 day 19/30" with a picture of a pink haired girl. what does that mean?