gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

But there are exceptions like Saratoga where her artillery cannon barrage scales off Avi

@grizzled sundial

[weak dust]

Illustrious, Indomitable, Victorious

Who do i build first

[atomic abyss]

they're all pretty meh on the dmg side
probably indomitable then illustrious

victorious is unbelieveably bad

[weak dust]

oh ok

ok so i want to build team that goes with Vanguard, who do i put with her? The ones that are already lvled are from commission xp

[atomic abyss]

vanguard doesn't want a HMS team

[weak dust]

hm

[atomic abyss]

faction fleets are kinda sham to begin with

[weak dust]

yea i got no clue what im doing

[atomic abyss]

vanguard is only as strong as the things she's buffing

so her best friends are other UR BBs

[weak dust]

so i can put her with Richelieu and Alsace and be fine?

[atomic abyss]

richelieu isn't UR
but with alsace, yes

[weak dust]

oki ty

[north gazelle]

I don't have other ur bb so should I build vanguard or nah?

[atomic abyss]

yes

you can just get fdg after all

[north gazelle]

I don't have kms tech points for her

[atomic abyss]

then that should be your goal

[obtuse knoll]

is there oil cap on t3 normal?

[atomic abyss]

no

t2 or t3 hard only

[gloomy mesa]

Why is the power of San Francisco lower than that of my Juneau?

[atomic abyss]

firstly, power is a very very poor way to judge how good a ship is

since it's just a sum of stats and gear

juneau has a torp stat, san fran does not

that's the only reason why juneau's power is higher

[finite crag]

power is completely useless

[late flame]

"don't judge a book ship by the cover"

[gloomy mesa]

Oh okay, just assumed that because San Franciscos lvl is higher and because she is Sr her power value should be at least equal

[undone plover]

more importantly double HP aux is not ideal for cruisers
use HP + evasion aux

[gloomy mesa]

Noted

[plain saffron]

"don't judge a book ship by the power"

[gloomy mesa]

Camouflage, Radar or steering gear?

Have purple and gold radar

[tall trout]

Can I get help on how to auto clear this prompt? It keeps showing up while I do strategic search in OS on explorable regions and requires me to manually click on it before it continues

[sharp socket]

washing machine, blue also works

[atomic abyss]

turn off TB assist in the settings

[undone plover]

top is best
the 2 blue gear are similar

[gloomy mesa]

Hmm 🤔, scraped the blue stuff I think, damn.

[tall trout]

It is off

[wet prairie]

i take it u-96's new skin is banned from disc? (has nipples)

[atomic abyss]

if it's not in #rules it's not banned (yet)

[sharp socket]

i dont know how you guys even notice that

[wet prairie]

then make it banned and stop playing zenless

[late flame]

horny finds a way

[wet prairie]

manjuu literally made it transparent and a different shade of orange

[sharp socket]

i didnt take anatomy or art class but anyway were offtopic in gph

[late flame]

imagine if skins affected gameplay
"i cant manual because horny"

[atomic abyss]

i just took a look

if those are nips you need an anatomy class

[wet prairie]

is illegals?

[atomic abyss]

no

and even if i did think so

it's not something i can decide myself

[atomic abyss]

off means it's not being reduced

so you have to switch on the reduce

[wet prairie]

stream is this friday right?

[atomic abyss]

sat

it's on the 10th

or well

timezones are a thing, so might be sun

[tall trout]

oh

[atomic abyss]

stream is at <t:1723316400:F>

so saturday for most people

[wet prairie]

sunday 5 am lets goooo

how do you embed time (i forgor)

[late flame]

for gmt+8 people

[sharp socket]

sir it auto converts

[atomic abyss]

you need to use a website to generate it

[wet prairie]

[whole crypt]

pretty sure if it had "actual nipples" discord won't be the only place that'll have a problem with it

[plain saffron]

where

[proud geyser]

lemme just...make the event

[forest palm]

so SoDak

[plain saffron]

is this just announced or the race skin bcs i can't see anything

[crimson glacier]

how about you all go talk about this on another place 🙂

[kindred arrow]

If I only have 1 HVAR, would it be better to put it on Yorkii or Kear?

[inner delta]

uh thats kinda gonna be ass to time if only 1 hvar i say york ig

[late flame]

i have it on kear though hmm

[tall dawn]

So… I’m at 12-1. I can make a fleet to clear the mobs, which was rough for me. But my boss fleet can’t take the boss. My mob fleet is: Nelson retro, Alvitr, Unicorn, prinz heinrich, Laffey retro, and Emden. My Boss fleet is Hood, Alsace, shouhou retro, Portland, Mogador, and Helena retro. I’ve tried moving some of them around, but can’t clear the mobs AND beat the boss…

[atomic abyss]

Most likely a gearing issue

[inner delta]

i mean having it on kear also fine like only 1 hvar is kinda just w.e at that point

[late flame]

*gear issue

[atomic abyss]

Cos that fleet shd be able to clear with ease
Shouhou aside

[inner delta]

either way works but it sure wont be optimal

[atomic abyss]

Might want to start a thread and post your gears there

@tall dawn

[latent crag]

How to reset my account?
i can only find a logout button but actually it doesn't work for me huh

[atomic abyss]

log out and change server

[inner delta]

actually go put it on kear, york can have bfg

kear have a need for the us plane

[kindred arrow]

I'm aware Yorkii was my first major event and I didn't know I should've grinded for more so now I'm cursed to wait till rerun

[tall dawn]

I don’t have great gear, but I’m not sure what I can do about that. I also don’t have a hood replacement for Shouhou. She was in my mobfleet prior, but had to swap uni in, for better healing, but then my boss fleet hurts.

[crimson glacier]

boss fleet shouldnt have a healer

[atomic abyss]

let's just see the gears

[kindred arrow]

I'll just do this tysm

[half skiff]

hi, thanks to you guys advice i can start researching roon

and ,i shouls k.ow that, but how d oyu get the colbat XP?

[atomic abyss]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[half skiff]

cuz i did a sortir in hard mode, a.d in a war archive, with IBO vanguard ships, and got zero

[inner delta]

i thought you wanted to change it ender

[atomic abyss]

i didn't

[half skiff]

ty, couldnr remember the command

[atomic abyss]

i was asking you if you waneted to

[inner delta]

and i said go ahead, you even got res to comment on it

smh

[half skiff]

why cant i see the progression then guys?

[atomic abyss]

if you don't earn enough exp to pass 1%, (10k), the bar doesn't move

[half skiff]

ahhh, ty guys

[iron meteor]

i remember farming for roon for months using only prinz eugen was that dmb

[late flame]

it wasnt dumb, but it was inefficient

[half skiff]

XD

luckily i got z23 , and more to be leveled

[civic crag]

Does OpSi contribute to affinity

[late flame]

nope

[civic crag]

Bruh

Hol up tf is this?

[crimson glacier]

new and improved mail system

[civic crag]

So this is why every time I collect mail the shit just disappears

[crimson glacier]

so you dont have to go through tons of mails to collect stuff if you want to save

now you can just take resources out whenever you want and delete the pointless mails

[civic crag]

Oh shit that’s neat

[sinful escarp]

also you can just enter the amount you want take

[civic crag]

I see

Alright that’s sick i can’t believe I didn’t know this shit earlier

[sinful escarp]

you and a lot more people, EN people tend to not read patch notes i was also one of them

[atomic abyss]

it;s not even about patch notes

the game literally prompts you with a text box the first time you open the new mail

[cobalt rapids]

Only if u had a certain amount of oil, i didnt get the prompt

[civic crag]

There is?

[civic crag]

I see

[civic crag]

Yeah I only read patch notes in games where I actually care about the meta

[atomic abyss]

considering it was all the way back in May...

[sinful escarp]

azur lane is too much of a casual game, for it to have meta, we have META

[crimson glacier]

you say that, but AL is more difficult than most gacha games that i have seen

[cobalt rapids]

Mb, u had to have over 100 mails not oil

[half plover]

is there a gear lab guide?

[civic crag]

Fr you’d have to buff a ship a lot for it to be meta, whereas a certain game I play has a hero go from bottom pick to perma banned with a base 10 attack buff

[cobalt rapids]

/gearlab

[half plover]

oh..

[civic crag]

Yeah but gacha still isn’t a difficult genre

[crimson glacier]

depends

what % of player beat w15 again?

[civic crag]

Fair

[shell willow]

we will know at anniversary, maybe

[civic crag]

To be fair, maybe AL is difficult, it’s just not rage inducing

[sinful escarp]

and its gacha is more forgiving than any other ones i see

[finite crag]

very generous game

[civic crag]

Yeah but ITS NOT GIVING ME PERSEUS

IVE PULLED FOR THIS FUCKER 200 TIMES

[cobalt rapids]

[finite crag]

dont expect a certain ship in the perma pool to drop

[shell willow]

[atomic abyss]

Perseus, a ship you don't even need

[reef flume]

Do you have Unicorn?

[civic crag]

It’ll just be useful to have around

[atomic abyss]

To have around yes

[civic crag]

Maxed out already

[atomic abyss]

So you don't need her

[reef flume]

Perfect. Then you don't need Percy

[civic crag]

Ok so do I just get another retrofit unicorn?

[atomic abyss]

No, why do you even need another healer

[civic crag]

OpSi?

[atomic abyss]

Opsi barely gives any experience to begin with

Some enemies give no experience even

[civic crag]

Ok fair

Also bro was right about the UR bulins I’m gonna end it all trying to MLB future URs

[sinful escarp]

for opsi 1 mob fleet, and 3 for bossing is enough

[crimson glacier]

for meta player perseus has 0 use

she isnt gatekeeping anything behind her

[plain saffron]

only if you have more than 100 mail for some f reason

[civic crag]

Oh so unicorn is enough

[plain saffron]

anyway just read this if you didn't get the tutorial

[shell willow]

ofc

[sinful escarp]

even the other healers are enough
i use claudia and i have no problems with my mob fleet in opsi

[crimson glacier]

when solo healer is enough unicorn is the top pick, and when you want more, its volga or aquila you add next to unicorn

[civic crag]

I’m gonna kreigsmarine trying to max out ägir

[full leaf]

how do you reliably get gold/rainbow equipments

[atomic abyss]

Firstly high rarity doesn't always mean they're good

There are some bad gold and even rainbow gear

[sinful escarp]

that, and just keep playing the game, those things just build up passively as you progress

[full leaf]

i see guides stating that purple equipments are "transitory" but how do i even transit when im stuck using purple

[atomic abyss]

Most of the best gear are from research, or gear lab, which requires you to play operation siren

[sinful escarp]

keep doing research progress, run opsi and basically just grind

[full leaf]

ah so opsi is a big factor, ok noted

[atomic abyss]

You are expected to get some gold gear from boxes ofc

[sinful escarp]

thats where you get the materials for gearlab

[gusty warren]

How is Alsace considered better than NJ when her stats are worse and her skills don't seem to be that much better?

[crimson glacier]

she does everything better so probably thats why

also how are you twisting things to see NJ having better stats

[gusty warren]

Sure NJ has slightly worse FP and reload, but she has better health, accuracy and luck and AA.

[crimson glacier]

AA luck and health do nothing

[plain saffron]

technically luck does something but it's very low

[atomic abyss]

Way better skills basically

[crimson glacier]

alsace has preload, can buff others damage, can heal others

can deal with suicide boats and others coming close

and just does more dmg in general

[atomic abyss]

Noticeably more damage I should add

[gusty warren]

NJ can buff others as well.

[crimson glacier]

thats just cope

[plain saffron]

also having more health aa doesn't matter much when they often didn't take that much dmg and didn't contribute to dmg

[crimson glacier]

NJs buffs are irrelevant

[gusty warren]

I'm just pointing out that it is a moot point to bring up when NJ buffs as well.

[crimson glacier]

yeah but when alsace does it like 1230x better its kinda not the same

[atomic abyss]

There's a difference when the buffs are actually not very good

[plain saffron]

aa buff could only help with some stage but you can live without it even in that stage, it's more like a bonus

[tame jungle]

isn't NJ's buff skill only for eagle union ships lmao

[crimson glacier]

yes

[gusty warren]

Alsace's is only for Iris and Vichya ships.

[atomic abyss]

Alsace, as mentioned as preloaded
This literally means she gets off an additional salvo
She outclasses all other UR BBs damage wise up till around 90s

[crimson glacier]

alsace buffs everyones damage

[tame jungle]

alsace barrage also has the enemy debuff part

[atomic abyss]

NJ is behind almost all the UR BBs

[crimson glacier]

the iris part is irrelevant

mostly just to buff herself

[gusty warren]

alright I see it

[plain saffron]

also didn't we have good french ships to trigger it

[atomic abyss]

I don't have the calcs in hand with me, but I believe she's about 20-30% behind?

Moggers and Brest

[gusty warren]

They don't tend to buff ships do they?

[atomic abyss]

Augments or retros

[gusty warren]

I doubt NJ will get either

[crimson glacier]

there just isnt a reason to buff NJ

[atomic abyss]

NJ has had her time to shine 3 years ago

Now it's time she let others have their turn

[plain saffron]

at this point augment is kinda random so who knows

[gusty warren]

I mean there wasn't a reason to give all the commons who got an augment, an augment.

[sinful escarp]

first ever rainbow augment for a UR ship

[crimson glacier]

NJ is already good

[plain saffron]

sandy

[crimson glacier]

no harm in making awful ships better

sandy is just anomaly

[gusty warren]

There are plenty of common rarity ships who have gotten augments

[plain saffron]

they just give it randomly at this point, ur retro gets it, shitters get it, pr ships get it

[sinful escarp]

they put all ships in a wheel and spin to choose who gets aug

[gusty warren]

"Who the fuck was Konigsberg again?"

[plain saffron]

what's wrong with giving common ships augment

[hollow sail]

if the ship is a common or rare without retro, the augment is basically guaranteed to be an extremely mediocre waste of coins

[crimson glacier]

imagine not remembering the 3 common Ks

[plain saffron]

yeah but what's wrong with it

[atomic abyss]

[hollow sail]

SRs and retro ships tend to get it a little bit better, but it's still rather hit and miss

[atomic abyss]

Imagine discussing this here

[plain saffron]

if it's bad just don't craft it, some player prob does for waifu

[gusty warren]

anyways cheers for the clarification

[plain saffron]

and it's not much effort anyway just increase the numbers

[warm flax]

Do steam catapults contribute on aa support in w15

[plain saffron]

yes, ithink

[harsh epoch]

i just returned aft like 2.5 yrs what do i do

[obtuse knoll]

play

[plain saffron]

farm event first

[sinful escarp]

claim all your oil mails, because there is now a new storage for it

[plain saffron]

minigame shop doesn't reset right

[eternal basalt]

If on top of it from the beginning it's empty now

[sharp socket]

is 11-1, 12-1 or 12-4 the most oil to exp efficient stage to farm

[worldly pewter]

11

[sinful escarp]

if sandy is the AA carry would sexy bofors or roomba be better?

[plain saffron]

11-1 is best exp/oil, higher is worse
opposite for coins

[forest palm]

11-1 tends to get shelved though because it doesn't drop Augment Frags, and Cog Chips that drop from world 12, and onward, so if you only cared about XP

[eternal basalt]

sexy for Sandy

[eternal basalt]

And there's a 50k cap on coins so they better bring stuff soon

[heady jasper]

How to get more commander exp? Forgot lol

[frank pulsar]

grind highest campaign stage you can with ships that are within 20 levels of the enemy

[heady jasper]

👍🏻👌🏻

[wispy cosmos]

do we know if the f8f seaplane can passive intercept

[pallid vortex]

Is it worth it to build submarine for supply line disruption weekly?

[plain saffron]

is there ever an instances where we get augment through mail?

[plain saffron]

you gonna use the subs for late game eventually

[haughty dust]

and he pretty much be used on any character or any specific class that they’re the best on? I just crafted another one.

[plain saffron]

all cruisers, CL CA, CB

[rapid grail]

CAs, CBs, CLs
generally anyone that lacks the Evasion stat; which mostly applies to ships with those hull types

[haughty dust]

Gotcha thank you

[pallid vortex]

Because I currently only have 272 cubes. And the next event and anniversary might have UR

[keen sable]

there's plenty of free subs

[plain saffron]

you mean gacha subs? then no

[shell willow]

you shouldnt randomly pull on special banner if thats what u meant by building

[plain saffron]

i thought build as raise

[shell willow]

same

[pallid vortex]

How do we get them. I only have the one that I got at the beginning

[north gazelle]

War archives, merit shop

[pallid vortex]

I thought only bulins should be bought from merit shop

[keen sable]

guidl shop also

[keen sable]

there's a difference between being in a shop and worth buying from a shop

[pallid vortex]

Are they worth buying? Cos I followed the guide and there wasn't any mention of submarine

[keen sable]

the guide was wrong or for newbies without ops only. if you have ops you should be leveling subs. it's free and a waste not to. even the worst sub is significantly better than no sub

[north gazelle]

Ops?

[keen sable]

operation siren

[pallid vortex]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
I followed this

I have operation siren unlocked. Do you have any recommendations for which sub to buy form guild shop?

[shell willow]

subs are a pain in the ass to level so i personally wouldnt bother with purples

who do you have currently?

[undone plover]

U37 in merit shop is worth grabbing
Then u wait for u96 in medal shop and u47/u81 from gacha

[undone plover]

Can i-58 do the sub weekly level 65?

Without her augment?

[shell willow]

i was gonna ask the same thing

[wispy cosmos]

@keen sable is that a yes it does passively intercept

[shell willow]

check if you have u 37 in merit shop

[pallid vortex]

There isnt

[undone plover]

Check every day
She will show up

[narrow wyvern]

Planning ahead of time for FDG grind, do I run Elbe, Bismarck, Tirpitz, or would Seydlitz be a better choice over Tirpitz?

[undone plover]

Tirp better tech if u can afford the gold bulin cost

[pallid vortex]

Tirp?

[narrow wyvern]

I have em all MLB'd, only missing skills rn

[undone plover]

Tirptiz* I was answering zee

[pallid vortex]

Oh

Is u37 worth max limit breaking?

[plain saffron]

according to datamine yes but i never test

[undone plover]

Bisko tirp elbe is fine

[undone plover]

Are you in chapter 12?

[pallid vortex]

Chapter 9. I nly started around 1-2 weeks ago

[sharp socket]

what do i get after my preferred number of wyverns

mk7, UR AA, or other stuff

[undone plover]

Then focus on getting to ch 12 first
If u already have 2 teams then u can grab u37 and raise her so u can start farming the daily raid

[pallid vortex]

So I should get 2 fleets that are max limit break first. Then start to focus on building u37?

[undone plover]

2-4 wyverns, 0-3 mk7, UR AA and DD gun not the highest priority tbh but more is better

[undone plover]

Yes. That is what I would do

[pallid vortex]

Got it. Thank you for the help

[sharp socket]

i got a recommendation from a friend to get 4 wyvern, 1 spearfish, 3 mk7 and 3 UR AA to be set for 15-4

[undone plover]

Probably overkill but those are not bad options to get

[sharp socket]

he also said to take as long as you like because its very long

[shell willow]

my scuffed fleet cleared w15 with 2 wyverns and 0 of the others, so its totally not required, you dont even use more than 1 he bb gun

[undone plover]

Do you have guam and laffey? Shimanto?
2nd healer?
Those are more crucial imo

[sharp socket]

he said this to me because i told him i dont have guam and laff2

[narrow wyvern]

Oh right, speaking of subs, how do people use em? Like, do they just act as extra torpedos in battles? I'm planning on building the subs that I have while I'm working on FDG since I've been running on 0 subs.

Back then, farming gears for it was hell so I never got to actually doing anything with them outside of levelling them since I had to burn bulins at some point

[shell willow]

do you have aquila?

[undone plover]

U call them in battle to help
Mainly ch14+ and hard arbiter since those are the hardest content that can use subs

[narrow wyvern]

Nope, I've been pretty irregular with my activity till 2 weeks ago (and on global release)

[sharp socket]

no aquila

[viscid swift]

I don't understand why they would reccomend 4 wyverns and a spearfish

[undone plover]

Raising subs in dorm and with xp books is probably better for gold efficiency

[viscid swift]

most fleets won't use more than 4 Torpedo Bombers

[keen sable]

weird friend with bad advice

[narrow wyvern]

I have no gold bulins so I'm not sure who to level between the 3 SSRs. I've heard i-58 is kinda decent? So I decided to level her up when subs were introduced into the game

[shell willow]

you just do this (you already got u81, only need u37 and u96), i wouldnt bother with elites

[undone plover]

Raise u81
Get u37 from merit ship
Get u96 from medal shop

For now try and do the level 65 submarine raid to farm 60 of this torp blueprints to make 6 bidder torps later
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Submarine-mounted_Mark_VIII_Torpedo#Type_3-0

[north gazelle]

Are you f2p?

[narrow wyvern]

Hol up, wait a minute. The world gave me a sign, U37 showed up on my Merit. Do I get her now?

[pallid vortex]

I bought the commanders pack to lvl 70

[shell willow]

nice, yes get her

[north gazelle]

Ohh

[undone plover]

Yeah just get her
Some ppl farm WA to min max gold bulins but I wouldn’t as a relatively new player

[north gazelle]

That's why you were able to get to ch9 so fast

[pallid vortex]

Yeah. I used the t2 exp packs to get my ships to lvl 100 and jumped to world 9 from there

[narrow wyvern]

Is Perseus available on WA or is Unicorn enough? I think I read here recently that you'd want 2 healers or smth

[north gazelle]

Perseus is available on gatcha

[crimson glacier]

perseus isnt good 2nd healer with unicorn

[undone plover]

U only want 2 healers in chapter 15

[narrow wyvern]

I'd like to avoid anything that has to do with gacha. It's probably gonna take way too long to get a specific unit from there

[keen sable]

it works but there's better healers than perseus

[narrow wyvern]

So if I have Unicorn, who should I aim for eventually when ch15 is available to me in a few months

[cloud fractal]

FS5 mandatory to focus on for FdG?

[keen sable]

not perm though

[undone plover]

Aquila, volga but they are gacha and need to archive
Klaudia also iirc but she was collab limited so idk if u have her

There is really no perma options available that wont be a pain to run

[viscid swift]

I rather doubt you'll get to W15 in a few months...

[shell willow]

kinda, but there is no other coinable DR ship rn thats higher prio than her, if you are very low on coins then buy less prints daily i guess

[viscid swift]

I'd say you're probably looking at a year roughly to reach W15 and a clear it on a new account if you know what you're doing

[narrow wyvern]

I have Aquila KEKW

I can physically feel RNGsus' blessing raining down on me (omw to get rained on outside)

[undone plover]

I think focusing ch15 shouldnt your priority
Iirc u are a returnee player right?
Probably should focus OpSi if u are already in ch12

[sharp socket]

with good planning and some luck from starting, you can expect to clear w13 in 3 months, w14 in 6+ months and w15 in 12+ months

[cloud fractal]

Yeah. I just don’t have enough coins to go around. Not enough to maximize coining her while maintaining a constant stream of research and trying to save for AvP’s Hull Dev research.

I’ve been farming D3 constantly to level Agir and FdG while farming CDC for AvP 😂

[narrow wyvern]

Ch12 is a no-go. I'm still under Commander Level 80

[undone plover]

Tbh some lil-E players cleared ch15 on release
Without volga/aquila and before guam and laffey ii
So it is possible to do it under a year but probably not for your average player

[undone plover]

Then stop worrying about chapter 15
Get to 12 when u can
And start working on opsi

[north gazelle]

I don't have any of these ships, I am fucked right?

[finite crag]

well unlike 12, 15 isnt something you should be worrying about the moment its unlocked

[narrow wyvern]

Anyone else worth levelling here? I have a decent line up (kinda?) for CVs atm

[sharp socket]

personally im very close to being able to complete w14 and ive almost had 6 months of logins, so i dont think what i said is too far off

[finite crag]

14 isnt 15

[sharp socket]

i said 15 is 12+ months of constant progress

[cloud fractal]

No. As we level other things will release that we will get that can clear that stuff. Either that or you’ll be around long enough for a rerun.

[finite crag]

hard to say that for a certain when you havent even hit 15 yet

[sharp socket]

14 for me has taken about 6 months and counting

[narrow wyvern]

Doesn't hurt to prepare in advance and make my life easier somehow, the only things I should be concerned rn are gears and its upgrades since I think I have a decent roster considering how badly I actually played the game. I was on dorm simulator for the past few years

[undone plover]

Almost every event will rerun and u will have a chance to get them later
And we dont know what future events will bring. We might get better ships than those

Dont worry being fucked and work with what u have available to you

[shell willow]

yeah thats fine, even 6 prints daily is not that bad, and 2400 coin should be affordable

[viscid swift]

I'll be blunt, a lot can change between now and when you actually tackle W15 so much so as to much all of your progress almost irrelevant potentially

[rapid grail]

Quick question; can I speed run WichiM?

[viscid swift]

not to mention you need to clear W14 first which is still gonna be quite the step up in difficulty compared to W13

[undone plover]

Raise independence when u can spare the resources
Retrofit her as well

[narrow wyvern]

It won't :copium:

Also, should I level up ships for fleet tech stuff then get rid of them for space? I'm kinda low on dock space since i'm constantly around 210/230

[sharp socket]

i have not hit 15, im just saying what other people have been saying about 14 and 15 which is about accurate to my progression thus far until 14 so i feel like its safe to assume what others have said about 15 is true too

[cloud fractal]

Don’t bother. They’ve been beating me away from that mentality since I wandered in here 3 months ago. I’ve progressed astronomically because I spend, but I’m a far cry away from 15 and even 14 atm.

[finite crag]

too much text sorry

tldr?

[viscid swift]

my recommendation would be to just buy more dock space as always

[sharp socket]

skill issue

[narrow wyvern]

Yeah, I was planning to get her. I heard she was really good post-retrofit

[undone plover]

I wouldnt say dont prepare
Just dont prepare 10 steps ahead
Think about your next moves first
Focus on what is relevant atm not in 10 months

[viscid swift]

yes that

[sharp socket]

the difficulty curve turns exponential past w12

[viscid swift]

like, focus on getting better gear and ships but not solely ships to be used in W15

[cloud fractal]

Missed this, thanks!

[sharp socket]

itll be somewhat ok if you prepare but expect to take a long time

[viscid swift]

you'll want to get some gear from the lab so also get ships that will help with clearing Operation Siren as well as W14

[sharp socket]

w14 and w15 is not a sprint but rather a really long marathon

[jaunty vault]

depends on the runner

[rapid grail]

(63x3)+(375x2) = 939
939x32 = 30048

Alright, just going to make sure I'm not overcapping my META runs

[narrow wyvern]

Tbf, I'd like to know what things to get to eventually.

I think highschool fucked me over a bit too much since I went "4 years won't pass by that quickly" and I was kinda forced into a strand I don't exactly like for Senior Highschool, and subsequently shafted into a degree that I can't really say I hate, but I have a different passion.

Tldr: I just wanna get my roadmap done

[worldly pewter]

suchi said so
i think he has a video guide for it

[shell willow]

it resets at <t:971175600:t> every day, so make sure to get it

[undone plover]

No worries mate
Feel free to ask what to focus on here

Like I said for now priority is:

1- get to chapter 12
2- start working on operation siren
3- start working on shipyard and research academy (once u are in ch12)
4- raise good ships for OpSi and later

[worldly pewter]

maybe shinano ?

[sharp socket]

you want a roadmap, ill give you a roadmap (for w14)
get fdg, fs5 her
get agir to d30
get jda somehow, WA if you need
farm the hell out of opsi and make a couple wyverns, alongside other gear like 3x 155 kai, as many flapjacks as youd like, etc
farm your URs and other core ships to 120
get more strong gear from other sources
attempt w14 and fix stuff as you go

[viscid swift]

double TB would be kinda sus on her

[undone plover]

Even then you would want fighters for interception

[worldly pewter]

if ur fleet has bad AA i think interception won't make it any better

just kill the boss before it kills u

[north gazelle]

What is jda?

[sharp socket]

i didnt list all the ships you would need btw, just the ones longest to farm for

[viscid swift]

Jeanne d'Arc

[north gazelle]

Why is she needed?

[undone plover]

She is a good ship and good for ch15
Nothing is rly needed and u shouldn’t worry about this if u recently started

[north gazelle]

Ok

[viscid swift]

here's among other reasons why I don't reccomend planning that far ahead specifically for W15

this is a good approximation of the new events for the remainder of the year if I do say so myself and there's a number of events in the next 6 months that can occur to really shake things up

[worldly pewter]

but musasi and 2 new URs

[north gazelle]

I ain't gonna get mu sashi soon

Astronomically low on cubes

[undone plover]

If u manage your cubes well u will have a good chance

[viscid swift]

mainly would be the remaining 2 new UR events, the PR6 PRs will also be getting their fate sims in a few weeks, Musashi is most likely gonna rerun within the next 6 months, and there will most likely be a gear lab update in late Junaury

[narrow wyvern]

About Agir, where am I supposed to get her guns. Apparently I don't have CB guns. Do they come with her research as well?

[sharp socket]

pr4 has one

[north gazelle]

Rngeus never works on me so maybe not until she's archived

[hollow gust]

by the time you get agir to high dev u should get her gear

[sharp socket]

an event also had one but it passed and youll need to wait for a rerun

[undone plover]

Outside of events pull 1 light only per day.
UR events are almost always worth pulling for
For the other events better ask here if the ships are worth getting before spending (if u have a low cube count)
For reruns there are free build tickets that help with pulling.

If u like an event ship pull for her
The cube income is generous u just need to manage it well

[north gazelle]

I ain't wasting cubes on reruns

[narrow wyvern]

Alright, I was asked to set my priority to PR4 sometime ago so I've been letting those research stack up.

I forgot AL's anni is always around August. Man, guess I can't really be spending those free gems (if they still give em) on skins since I need those dock space way more

[undone plover]

In research academy make sure u have focus on pr4

[hollow gust]

considering the next few URS being reran are some of the best ships in the game, thats unwise

[whole crypt]

you may or may not need cubes to get Musashi... she's also basically the strongest carry BB for 14 and 15

[north gazelle]

Actually I don't have cubes to waste in first place

[undone plover]

Musashi aquila is a broken combo in campaign

[sharp socket]

musashi rerun soon, strongest UR BB still iirc even tho its rerun

(soon means less than a year)

[undone plover]

Then read my advice and make sure u are not wasting cubes on perma pulls

[hollow gust]

grind ur commisions then, they give alot of cubes if you put in the effort

[narrow wyvern]

Damn, I lucked out back when she got released.

I just pulled since she had Dishwasher's art

[north gazelle]

No I am not wasting cubes on permanent banners

It's just that I started and don't have much saved

[worldly pewter]

u have a pretty pessimistic take imo
if u play normally
unlike in other gachas where u can't have everything that u want
in AL u can have everything that u want and u don't want

[whole crypt]

well Musashi rerun probably won't be here before JP anniversary so you can see how much you have when we get there

[sharp socket]

you have about 2 months, maybe enough

[narrow wyvern]

What's the Call to Arms thingy here

[north gazelle]

I am new player so I don't have a lot of cubes. I am saving. I am also low on gold

[undone plover]

Statistically u are more likely to get a UR before hitting pity
So just save as many cubes as u can

[viscid swift]

prelude for major events

[whole crypt]

just keep playing for coins
for cubes we get more cubes than is needed to pity new URs so up to you how much to dip

[narrow wyvern]

Ah, basically like the Lostbelt prologues from FGO

[north gazelle]

Ok sure thanks a lot for the advice

[narrow wyvern]

Can confirm, I got Musashi and Vanguard in under 100 cubes

[hollow gust]

gold is farmable in higher world, complete cube commisions, dont take the super long 12 hour ones, you easily get enough cubes in a few months

casually getting commisions gives you a 250+ cines a month for free

[north gazelle]

Btw which urs to target for?

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

ideally all of them
or as many as you can egt

[north gazelle]

You have rngesus blessing

[half skiff]

so hyped for musashi

[undone plover]

The upcoming UR reruns are all great
And we dont know for new URs but usually new URs are also great
So just save and pray u get them all

[half skiff]

congratulations

[whole crypt]

the chances of getting the UR before pity is fairly good
rerun shouldn't be before next new UR anyway so just see how many cubes you get to spare
reruns get build tickets anyway

[narrow wyvern]

Uh, wait. About Klaudia, do I need her augment and auxiliary? I didn't do the event back then and only pulled

[north gazelle]

I see hope I get any (copium)

[half skiff]

how many tickets btw?

[undone plover]

This means u might have to skip the upcoming EN anni event
But not necessarily
So come back to ask here if it is worth pulling for the ships once we know more about them

[whole crypt]

UR events should have like 40-ish

[north gazelle]

40

[soft raft]

like roughly 40

[half skiff]

wow, quite generous

[whole crypt]

Klaudia specifically should still be usable without augment, but a lot of the newer collab ships are built with aug function in mind

[north gazelle]

How many cubes you have?

[half skiff]

im begginer curzntly around 60 i think?

[narrow wyvern]

Play during collabs, gotcha. I was worried since I thought my 2nd healer was suddenly gonna be a missed opportunity but I guess I can live with it

[half skiff]

got strasbourg tho, so happy times

[thorny laurel]

Would using the surface torps that hit under water targets be good for Felix cause of her speed reduction on them, the are 3.5 speed

[north gazelle]

When did you started?

[keen sable]

yes wiki and game ui says it does. are you asking for empirical confirmation?

[half skiff]

a week ago why? is it low?

[north gazelle]

No you have saved a lot in a week

Are you f2p?

[whole crypt]

floatcat has intercept timer yeh

[half skiff]

ye! must be cuz doing new stages gives some

[north gazelle]

Nice which chapter you are on? I myself am new too

[undone plover]

U get 168 guarenteed cubes per month @north gazelle
20 from cruise pass every 2 months
More if u count commissions and shop rng.

Even more from events and one time sources. Just to help u plan ahead if u wanted this info

[keen sable]

althought would it be a pathetic single floatcat? maybe i should empirically test it

[north gazelle]

Thanks a lot man

[nova hawk]

Not gameplay related but when does the anniversary start

[undone plover]

Stream on 10th
Event probably on 15th

[whole crypt]

if you count the copy loaded on Halford yes it'll be a single plane intercept, it'll also have shit scaling because of Halford's AVI

[soft raft]

that's more gameplay related than you'd think
CN Anniv is May
EN Anniv is Aug (We have a stream on the 10th for it)
JP Anniv is Sept

[nova hawk]

I see, thanks to both of you!

[north gazelle]

What event was on cn anniversary?

[viscid swift]

Alsace's event

[north gazelle]

Ok nice

Alsace is one of the strongest battleship right now?

[half skiff]

only 4-1

[half skiff]

strong or not i would pull lol

[whole crypt]

except you can't pull for Alsace now
all new URs are basically very good at the point of release, it's just the matter of how much powercreep comes after

[half skiff]

i know, very sad, it was in june right?

[whole crypt]

late May to mid June

[north gazelle]

Cubes go brrr

[half skiff]

question btw, do we know the drop rates for ships on map

got like maybe 3-4 elites

[whole crypt]

only ships with known rates are Akagi and Kaga

[half skiff]

which is?

[north gazelle]

0.75

[whole crypt]

0.75% each

[north gazelle]

On boss node

3-4

[narrow wyvern]

Man, I'm bummed Akagi and Kaga aren't that great anymore

[half skiff]

yyee, taht makes it even worse

also, realised from trying to play hard mode i dont have a single CV, only CVl

[whole crypt]

most year 0 ships aren't

[opaque galleon]

Don’t we assume that other ssr drops have similar rates?

[narrow wyvern]

I remember them being a must-farm back then during the game's release. I managed to get them a few hours after I got to w3 so it was really funny considering the RNG

[whole crypt]

we assume, but we have no confirmation

[narrow wyvern]

Just collect enough data from enough people and pray that the statistics are accurate enough

[muted olive]

is there a point to doing and/or 3 starring every hardmode stage in main campaign?

[whole crypt]

if you can't get Enterprise from shop the first good carrier you can pick up and should bother with is Saratoga from 4-1

[whole crypt]

3-starring is more retrofit prints in a mission reward, you can bother if need the prints
100% them doesn't really give you anything

[north gazelle]

I need t3 retrofit bps. None of them are dropping on hard mode for the past 2 days

[whole crypt]

@sweet delta HM mission rewards aren't behind 100%

[half skiff]

mine still give gems i think?

when i do 3 star they give a quest done

[whole crypt]

HM doesn't give gems either

[soft raft]

what hard mode stage are you doing?
T3 ones dont drop until after W3

[north gazelle]

Hard mode don't

[north gazelle]

5-4

[half skiff]

oh, misread

[wary timber]

is the Shiden kai 2 good enough as a fighter bomber compared to a reppu or a seafang ?

[soft raft]

all of those are meh compared to gold hellcat

[wary timber]

damn

[sweet delta]

@whole crypt 3 star higher chapter hard mode gives chips

[whole crypt]

yeh

[wary timber]

ok what about gold hellcat against the vf-17 corsair

[soft raft]

gold hellcat

[whole crypt]

functionally about the same but hellcat isn't a deadend

[north gazelle]

You ideally wanna get hands on fighters that carry 1000 lb bombs

Btw is the sea hornet a good fighter?

[wary timber]

the flapjack is better imo.

[sweet delta]

does as much damage per strike as the other 2x1000 lb fighters but is functionally the least useful of the three

[north gazelle]

It was farmable in vanguard event?

[soft raft]

about as good as Tigercat and Flapjack but it's the most expensive to craft out of the three due to its pre-req plane being gear lab exclusive

[north gazelle]

Is it true that there are no gear worth farming in war archives?

[soft raft]

99% of the gear there is obtainable elsewhere
WA only worth it if you need Iron Blood tech points (Divergent Chessboard) or if you dont want to spend merit points for Jeane (Skybound)

[north gazelle]

I see thanks

[whole crypt]

the main problem with gear farming in archive is gear farming is just shit anyway

[north gazelle]

I see

[wary timber]

what about events like passionate polaris and universe in unison.

[north gazelle]

Is it worth to spend bulins on bismark or tirpitz

[whole crypt]

polaris is a good early game oil cap stage if you're level-capped
both are okay for picking up celestial body and cosmic kicks with pity
neither has any really useful drops

[north gazelle]

Or just get 40 points and get done with

[whole crypt]

what 40 points

[north gazelle]

Tech points on collection

[keen sable]

do you consider making your ships wear high heels and dresses not gear farming?

[steel grotto]

depends on if you plan on using them ie for fdg

[whole crypt]

if you need the KMS tech and don't have any other easy ones I guess?

[steel grotto]

also depends on if you have no where else to use them on anytime soon

[north gazelle]

Wdym?

[whole crypt]

both are okay for picking up celestial body and cosmic kicks with pity

you only get one copy with pity so I don't particularly consider that farming, I guess unique considers otherwise

[north gazelle]

How many of those are needed?

[keen sable]

you can only get one so...

[north gazelle]

60 runs give one

[whole crypt]

not every 60 runs, you only get 1 copy at 60 runs and that's it

[north gazelle]

Ok

Then what happens the event get locked?

[keen sable]

nothing happens

[whole crypt]

you can keep running it, there's just no more pity rewards

[north gazelle]

Ok

[brazen hornet]

My highest level ship is 64, why did they open the lecture hall if it only works with level 100 ships? What am I missing?

[keen sable]

it opens on commander level. seems you're slow?

[north gazelle]

How can he open lecture Hall with ship level 64

[keen sable]

games telling you, you should have L100 ships by now

[north gazelle]

That opens at level 50

Commander level

By that time he should have at least one to 100

[whole crypt]

ships at 64 sounds kind of low unless you've been tossing ships around for leveling instead of sticking with the same fleet(s)

[brazen hornet]

Yes and no, I refuse to go to the next map until I recieve every ship from that map. Therefore, level 70 commander on 2-2 map. It seems the starter destroyers are hardest to get. Bit of a completionist but I find it enjoyable. Thanks for the reply's.

[north gazelle]

But still don't you level ships to level 100

[whole crypt]

eh, RNG must have been really hard on you if you farmed up to lv70 with ch2

[brazen hornet]

This

[whole crypt]

the stages already don't give a whole lot, but there's a significant penalty when you're certain number of levels over the nodes

and... would it hurt to tell you to just come back to farm later, with significantly cheaper fleets and better gear...

[brazen hornet]

Z28 drop rate for me has been elusive. Thanks for the replay's. =]

Reply's***

[north gazelle]

Level 70 on level 2-2 means he's earning 1/10 of xp

[keen sable]

I guess I will add something. What you are doing will cause you to entirely miss other ships including ships that may never reoccur again. But it's your game.

[whole crypt]

at least I guess now you won't be level-capped for progressing campaign

[brazen hornet]

Excellent idea! I am using two ships to keep the cost down while farming the ships.

[north gazelle]

Wdym by this?

[whole crypt]

the campaign is permanent, push for progression first and do your completionist things later

[keen sable]

you see it. you can't farm l'audacieux unless you have decent ships. but they have nothing

[whole crypt]

you're hurting your ability to do content in the long term staying at low chapters this long

[north gazelle]

It's his way of playing and I respect it

[whole crypt]

well it's a lot easier (and faster) to come back for it later

[north gazelle]

Yeah

[viscid swift]

as someone who kind of did that as well, I can say it was not worth it

[whole crypt]

it's definitely taken some number of weeks at least to get to 70 on ch2 alone

and with ships at 64 it tells you how bad the XP is

[north gazelle]

I wanna ask one question. Is the ship reward given on archives one time only?

[viscid swift]

yes

[brazen hornet]

Sorry chat, didn't mean to change the subject. I didn't understand the Lecture Hall, now I do. Thank you everyone!

[north gazelle]

Sorry because never farmed archives

[whole crypt]

60 run archive pities are all one time only

they're separate of the archive map drops themselves

[north gazelle]

Is it recommended to run archives once the ship drop?

[whole crypt]

not really

[north gazelle]

I mean collected from archive

[whole crypt]

the only archives that get recommended are chessboard for KMS ship drops and polaris if you're level capped for getting oilcap when low level

[north gazelle]

Ok

Thanks a lot

How do I raise this bunch for beaver badge?

[whole crypt]

level them up so you can LB them

[north gazelle]

All are garbage

[whole crypt]

yes you still level them up and LB them

[north gazelle]

Yeah I am asking how to do that by using skill books or sending them on commission?

[whole crypt]

you can throw XP packs at them or use the dorm

[north gazelle]

I don't get much xp books from academy

[whole crypt]

at some point you can start dragging them around for leveling

and XP packs are not skilll books, the books you use to level their skills are skill books

12-1 is surprisingly forgiving, you can probably drag beaver squad around at around lv80 or 90+ with some babysitters

then again by that level you could have MLB'd them anyway so... yeh just XP packs or dorm

[north gazelle]

I don't have much dock space. I am f2p

Am trying to get more dock

[whole crypt]

do the ships one at a time

or just come back to it later

[north gazelle]

I heard the beaver tag is a necessity

[whole crypt]

no it isn't

[north gazelle]

Really?

[whole crypt]

it's a good evasion aux but you can live without it

it's better than most you can get earlier in the game but you don't really need to go out of your way to LB beaver squad for it early in the game

[sweet delta]

Technically, no single piece of gear is a necessity

[north gazelle]

Ok

[whole crypt]

anything you hear you "need" isn't going to be a neccessity until much later in the game anyway

[quasi slate]

Is the supply line disruption daily raid good to do?

[whole crypt]

it's your best source of submarine torps

[quasi slate]

thx

[north gazelle]

Ok how should I progress in optimal way? I am currently doing event ht2

Am stuck on 7-1 due to commander level. Will push 9-1 once I reach level 65. Not focusing on campaign

[whole crypt]

then keep doing HT2, at least that has oil cost cap and the event points can buy you something fancy in the shop

what's your milestone at now

[north gazelle]

28500 only

[whole crypt]

just keep doing HT2 as much as you can then

move up to HT3 if you get the chance to

[north gazelle]

I can't the stat requirement are not met

[dawn quarry]

Should I limit break up tallinn using golden bulin ?

[whole crypt]

which is why I said if you get the chance to

[dawn quarry]

Since she's the only SR in my team that I can limit break using golden bulin

[whole crypt]

Tallinn is a decent tank but where are you in the game

[dawn quarry]

Ehm.. started the game yesterday commander rank 35 rn

[cobalt rapids]

depending where ure at mby u should stick to portland

[atomic abyss]

I wouldn't even use Tallinn to begin with

[whole crypt]

then just stick with Portland

[cobalt rapids]

u can raise talin for 2nd fleet later

[dawn quarry]

ah kk.

[cobalt rapids]

if u still need a tank

[dense epoch]

so what happens exactly during anniv?

[atomic abyss]

For early game players like yourself
Portland starter helena should be your frontline
Precisely because you lack gold bulins to limit break stuff

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[cobalt rapids]

freebies + banners

[whole crypt]

it also costs a lot of coins to LB SRs

[dense epoch]

are they gonna give free rings too?

[whole crypt]

there's usually one for EN on EN anniversary

[cobalt rapids]

on our anni possibly

[north gazelle]

Which faction we are most likely to get this anniversary?

[whole crypt]

chances are USS because of that stand that was at AX, but we don't know until announcement

[north gazelle]

Ok

[dense epoch]

oh right when is global/EN anniversary exactly?

[dawn quarry]

My Frontline rn looks like this ;-;

[cobalt rapids]

mid august

[whole crypt]

get Helena and come back to Tallinn later

[north gazelle]

Replace Lexington with Saratoga

[stone sluice]

Regarding damage, the VIT from PR7 is better or worse than the other VIT?

[dawn quarry]

kk il lvl her up

[whole crypt]

PR7 VIT is a converging TB

[dawn quarry]

btw is there a reason? For using elite instead of sr?

[keen sable]

you use the best ships in the game and also that you can afford

[dawn quarry]

ahh kk

[whole crypt]

because game is full of shitty SRs and we have a solid elite/rare starter template that works through midgame

so you don't need to ask if the SR you have is good to raise until much later

[shell willow]

anyone knows what level cassin oil cost goes up to 2?

[stark quiver]

lb1 i think

[shell willow]

so its 1 cost till 70?

[stark quiver]

wait it jumps from 1-7

[jaunty vault]

no it goes up at around 35ish

[shell willow]

[cobalt rapids]

u can check cn wiki they have a lvl slider and oilcost

[jaunty vault]

[eager mulch]

keeping a cassin at lb0 is 1 oil regardless of level

[keen sable]

if you lb1 her it's your own fault for doing stupid things on top of stupid things

[eager mulch]

unless im stupid which is a possibility, I haven’t low oiled in a while

[cobalt rapids]

nop ure right

lb0 is 1 oil even at lv100

[slender heart]

Eh?! You can do that?

[eager mulch]

it’s the cvl that goes from 2 oil to 3 oil at like lv 33 or 34 or smth

[jaunty vault]

theres a non zero chance of oil costs being different for EN

[keen sable]

because the oil cost for a LB0 common CVL is 3 with a discount for low levels

but 1 is 1. you can't go over 1. you can't go under 1

[shell willow]

i see, ty guys

[atomic abyss]

i can confirm all N rarity DD stay at 1 cost till their first limit break

[cobalt rapids]

we woke up all the low costers with this one

[sweet delta]

I can further confirm that not all non N rarity DDs go above 1 oil cost at lb0

[eager mulch]

low costing with amagi-chan

like I said I haven’t low costed in a while

[jaunty vault]

same

[eager mulch]

im only at 5.5k event points rn

[jaunty vault]

same

[sweet delta]

Why did I get 4 rewards with 5 attempts?

[vale spindle]

maybe one of your attempts landed on a dud tile

[sweet delta]

Some tiles are dudes?

[stark quiver]

u hit one of the blue arrow tiles probably

[cobalt rapids]

that shouldnt consume roll

[stark quiver]

weird

[cobalt rapids]

theres not even a blue ❗ tile
its prob a random event or random reward

[vale spindle]

maybe you already claimed 1 reward before hitting auto

[steel grotto]

is there a gameplay reason that flagships get bonus exp?

[cobalt rapids]

wdym by gameplay reason

[soft raft]

idk go ask the devs

[atomic abyss]

consider that if the flagship sinks, the whole battle is lost

[steel grotto]

idk i just find it random the flagship gets bonus exp when the mvp gets double exp because they did most damage

[atomic abyss]

the flagship is basically the most important ship in the formation

if it sinks, battle ends

so on the flipside, they get more exp

[steel grotto]

i guess thats valid

[jaunty vault]

flagship bears the flag

[vale spindle]

dont use z flag though

[full leaf]

if the shop SR dropped for me while farming do i still buy it?

[sweet delta]

dont tell me what to do

[sweet delta]

Low priority

[jaunty vault]

if you wanna save bulins, yes
otherwise, no

[cobalt rapids]

ig within 60k pts theres space for dupes

[half skiff]

audacieux good?

[sweet delta]

She's one of the best gold DDs so it's also ok for usage

[full leaf]

oh shes good?

[atomic abyss]

not for new players*

[sweet delta]

On the Sam scale she's great

[atomic abyss]

new players should not be raising any frontline SR ships

[hollow gust]

My Combat Power tho

[half skiff]

also, lil question guys, if an ennemy is level 35, am i supposed to beat it without too much diffixulty if my ship is around that level?

[atomic abyss]

they should raise portland, their starter and helena

[vale spindle]

yes! although ramp up is a bit annoying

[atomic abyss]

because gold bulins are hard to come by early on

and are better used on backliners

[half skiff]

ikr?

[jaunty vault]

whaddya know

[half skiff]

only have 3, when i have bunch of of pruples

[half skiff]

how do you get them later?

[jaunty vault]

same way you get them early

[eager mulch]

many sources, gradually by playing the game

[atomic abyss]

it's just that you'll have a bigger stockpile later

[sweet delta]

[eager mulch]

bro I don’t even have her

[cobalt rapids]

im raising kagerou and kasumi meta atm

[viscid swift]

Still a few weeks off

[gloomy mesa]

Where do aulick and foote drop? They guys for the Beaver badge

[half skiff]

already higha ffiniry damn

[jaunty vault]

give me 1 week

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki aulick

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aulick
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aulick/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Aulick/Gallery

Aug 4, 2024, 5:46 PM

[jaunty vault]

/wiki foote

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Foote
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Foote/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Foote/Gallery

Aug 4, 2024, 5:46 PM

[gloomy mesa]

Is she actually good?

[hollow gust]

mines maxed skills lol

[half skiff]

pog, ty

[gloomy mesa]

Thanks guys

[viscid swift]

idk, but she is Fire Power tech so that's why I'm leveling her

[gloomy mesa]

Lol neither of them drop in W12 wtf 😂

Guess I'll look if the drop in the event map

Or is w9 exp better than the event map one?

[atomic abyss]

event shd be around w10

[gloomy mesa]

Okay thanks

[vernal geyser]

Does high-efficiency plan restores?

[soft raft]

like as in do you get more?
only from OpSi voucher shop and the free weekly pack

[vernal geyser]

okay, also question since i'm new where can I find what all those "DD" "BB" "CVL" means

can't find inside game

[hollow gust]

They are navel designations

[vernal geyser]

Some I understand but not all of them

[soft raft]

DD, CL, CA, CB, BM, BC, BB, BBV, CVL, CV, SS, SSV, AR, AE respectively from top to bottom

[hollow gust]

Fk wasted my time typing

[sweet delta]

what is DDG or IX?

[steel grotto]

IX are like the pirate ships right

[soft raft]

Frigates specifically but yee

[cobalt rapids]

ddg is guided missile destroyer

[north gazelle]

When should I raise frontline sr?

[atomic abyss]

when your first fleet is actually sufficiently levelled

[north gazelle]

Ok

[atomic abyss]

and you are looking into investing in a second one

[cobalt rapids]

when ure done with rookies and/or dont need em and/or ur starting a 2nd fleet

[north gazelle]

You mean rookie mission

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[north gazelle]

Is my first fleet sufficiently leveled? How can I tell?

[cobalt rapids]

they hit 120

[north gazelle]

Ok

[vernal geyser]

so there's no point in investing into 2nd fleet before that? Because i'm leveling both fleets

[soft raft]

are you at at least W9 yet

[vernal geyser]

no

[north gazelle]

I am able to do ht2 at most but not ht3. Someone suggested me to build second fleet for that.

[soft raft]

then dont bother for now

[atomic abyss]

the issue with raising 2 fleets early one is that you simply will not have the resources to raise a second fleet

[vernal geyser]

been playing for few days only

[atomic abyss]

whether it's bulins or levels or gear

[vernal geyser]

got it

[steel grotto]

you guys leveled your starter fleets to 120?
then again last time i played was 5 years ago when there were 100 less ships or something

[sweet delta]

i don't remember what my starter fleet was, but its ships are level 120

[stark quiver]

i remember fully, full sr fleet

[cobalt rapids]

i remember what my starter fleet was, and its ships are level 120

[stark quiver]

my starter fleet was 125 + oathed

[north gazelle]

I need some suggestions for fleetbuilding. Can anyone help pls

[cobalt rapids]

in a thread

[north gazelle]

Fleetbuilding

[vernal geyser]

Fleet

[ionic bramble]

does dd cat affect ddgs

[atomic abyss]

yes

[white agate]

for sub

[hoary abyss]

Is this OK for napoli don't have drake gun or hinden gun yet

[sweet delta]

that may be the worst purple CA gun in the game

[atomic abyss]

other than that, it's fine

[soft raft]

Is your Napoli even D30 yet

[hoary abyss]

Can u recommend a gun for her?

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_203mm_(SK_C/34)#Type_3-0

[hoary abyss]

Ok thanks

[orchid tulip]

what's better to combine the fire control table with? white or black missile?

[sweet delta]

usually white

[orchid tulip]

unless? unless the BB has a good barrage or what?

[sweet delta]

unless the boss has Very Low evasion/luck

just put white shell

this also means you should buy/enhance fewer black than white

[orchid tulip]

ok thanks, I was wondering which shell to +13 first

[cobalt rapids]

check /plus13 for +13 prios

[little tree]

Does w14 require triple or double bb for mob ?

[stark quiver]

1bb 2 cv works

[cobalt rapids]

requires at least 1 bb for mob while the rest of the fleet fills other roles u need

[atomic abyss]

usually, 1 BB 2 CV

[little tree]

Oh sweet that's convenient vanguard will do that fine

[atomic abyss]

or rather, 1 BB, 1-2 CVL, 1 CV

[cobalt rapids]

1 rainbow bb + 1 unicorn + 1 stuff usually

[little tree]

This gear good enough for that ?

• aa gun

[viscid swift]

155 Kai for her aux gun

[cobalt rapids]

no, use 155kai for aux, lvl ur stuff to +10 and aa gun should be a staag

[stark quiver]

interesting +X choices

[soft raft]

switch out the 155 for a 155 Kai
And how are you still using purple AA guns

[forest palm]

can you get a hazemayer at the least

[viscid swift]

also 120 and +10 gear is the minimum for W14

[little tree]

Its a filler aa gun I can swap it

[little tree]

Yee im leveling her to 120 then I will push it.

[forest palm]

preferably the bottom one, but the top one is a good hold over

[little tree]

The twin 40 I'm 2 BP away from getting

[atomic abyss]

which

[little tree]

Top one

My bad

[little tree]

I don't have the 155 kai

[orchid tulip]

why is upgrading that gun to the 155kai any boost for a BB?

[atomic abyss]

craft it in gear lab
the 155 kai is just that much better at killing suicide boats

[soft raft]

Suicide boats in W14 are bulkier (There are also ramming boats) and the 155 Kai has a more focused bullet pattern that's more suitable to kill them than the regular 155

[atomic abyss]

and... guess what's one of the biggest threats in w14

[soft raft]

have fun trying to melt a rammer boat with the fixed spread of the regular 155

[orchid tulip]

I already 3starred w14 and I don't see me using Vang for mobbing

[viscid swift]

what

[little tree]

This it ?

[orchid tulip]

that's a looot of Top secrets for such a niche case

[grizzled wave]

is there a way to seen how many bp is required per level?

[atomic abyss]

/devbp

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460648604974055424/885529968455598170/unknown.png

[atomic abyss]

well the best you have

[viscid swift]

it's also a good CL main gun so it has more uses than just that

[orchid tulip]

I see, I see

[little tree]

How good is mogs gun on vanguard for intercept ?

[orchid tulip]

but I wouldn't even mention it to a person that doesn't even have a STAAG aa gun imho

[atomic abyss]

better than most DD guns, but DD guns in general aren't as good as intercepting

just use a triple 155 kai...

if you can't afford one, maybe just put off w14

[little tree]

Seems like there's no way around it.

[viscid swift]

you can go without it but I wouldn't reccomend it

[atomic abyss]

there is 0 reason to rush past 13

[sweet delta]

would it be a long shot to ask if you have an extra rainbow CL gun to replace the 155 kai?

[little tree]

What I can use for vanguard.

[viscid swift]

what even are you planning to tackle W14 with?

[sweet delta]

that account does not look w14-ready

[stark quiver]

your best bet is 155, which isnt a good thing

[little tree]

Once vanguard is 120

[viscid swift]

that would be pushing things even with good gear

[stark quiver]

i see a dead mob

[keen sable]

i admire the refusal to use 125's

[viscid swift]

and based on what I saw with Vanguard that doesn't appear to be the case...

[little tree]

I'll go back to 12 1 farming then.

[stark quiver]

have you been doing your opsi?

[little tree]

Yea I been doing the c4 c3 worlds

[stark quiver]

can you do any higher? cuz it really isnt helping that youre only doing c3-4

[little tree]

I was told to do all the lower ones first

[keen sable]

it's day 4 of ops. that's pretty normal if not ahead

[stark quiver]

wut no , not like now
even last month have you been grinding?

[atomic abyss]

unique please don't EN

[little tree]

No I'm chaoter 4 of opsi

[stark quiver]

O:

[little tree]

I been busy griding fdg last month

[atomic abyss]

you were at chap 4 opsi. without fdg , and you wanted to push w14?

your priorities are beyond messed up

[little tree]

All the chapter enemies are level 98 or lower so far

[stark quiver]

you know grindibg opsi is kinda just clearing nodes,doing dailies right? and c5 end of month, surely you wont be using all that time to grinding 12-1

[little tree]

I don't have daily yet

[atomic abyss]

when your ships are low morale, that's when you opsi

[stark quiver]

getting thru opsi story shouldnt be that long

[atomic abyss]

opsi story should be very easy to clear where you're at

[little tree]

It is

[atomic abyss]

i'll be honest here
you're not gonna clear w14 for at least another 3 months, most likely more

[stark quiver]

do it asap, youre crippling yourself

[atomic abyss]

w14-15 is pretty much the hardest content in AL

it's not a good idea to half ass it if you intend to make any meaningful progress

drop back to w12
get fdg
get anchorage, agir, avp, hakuryuu

[stark quiver]

w14 being one of hardest is stretching it, but

[knotty jasper]

Is An Shan a good ship?

[atomic abyss]

i mean, what's harder?
w15, CM?
im not even sure if harbiter is harder than w14 lol

[atomic abyss]

when retrofit, very very good

[knotty jasper]

Got it, thank you.

[worldly pewter]

TBH that is a nice addition to the team that u have
but still i think having 1 healer is very risky considering u are low on cracked gear
u might need some time to get prepared imo
jp anni
also don't forget the subs

[little tree]

I'll do opsi for the rest of the day hopefully I clear the chapters then today

[little tree]

Would volgas heal count ?

[atomic abyss]

it would

[worldly pewter]

u have volga

[little tree]

I will lever her to 120 she is 115

[atomic abyss]

volga is one of the best w14 picks

[worldly pewter]

~~best pick for w15 too ~~

yea then get jda from wa and fdg anchorage haku agir
u should be having everything ready ship wise

[little tree]

Subs are needed for w14 ?

[atomic abyss]

they will make your life much easier

[worldly pewter]

in ur case if u want to speedrun w14 clear yes

[little tree]

Beans

[worldly pewter]

also how are u having volga without alsace
did u stop playing ?

[little tree]

I didn't have cubes during Alice event

[atomic abyss]

[little tree]

I didn't know not to pull when u get cubes and save them

[worldly pewter]

no worries man just believe in fdg

[little tree]

I have 1.1 million exp left to fdg

[worldly pewter]

one of the best ships for w14 unironically

[little tree]

IS Wichita Meta worth Grinding for to use in W14 and 15

[stark quiver]

no

[stark quiver]

shes prob gonna explode in w15

[dim summit]

if i was gonna redo my opsi cv fleet to run Shinano/Haku/Implac, what would the vanguard half look like ideally?

[stark quiver]

tank, kazagumo, sirius

[worldly pewter]

wichita's mechanic is a little bit weird in AL since there isn't enough support to keep a ship at low hp levels all the time
since it is that her gimmick

[atomic abyss]

cope AF
the most use she'll see is meta showdown comps

her dmg is very high though yes

[dim summit]

kazagumo and sirius are at 110 and 112, they usable yet or no?

[worldly pewter]

~~if only they made alsace heal proc more than once per battle ~~

[stark quiver]

i mean yea, but they prob wont survive whole fight

[dim summit]

aight ty

[little tree]

should i just follow the Gearlabs Guide for what gear to get next?

[abstract solar]

Whats the best way to get these besides the port shop?

Need 5

[ivory linden]

You can get it from port shop and next best way is cat nodes. When you are done with opsi you can farm c5 maps to get more

I'm not entirely sure but sometimes it appears as a reward from daily opsi missions

[abstract solar]

I'll try doing some c5 nodes

[hollow hollow]

are the aoe AA guns ever worth it

[hollow hollow]

max level SR cats are your best node farming

[stark quiver]

the time fuze? no

[abstract solar]

Does the cat type matter? I do use lvl 30 sr ones

[hollow hollow]

nope, just SR and level 30

[white agate]

does Flame's Aggression become the best mewofficier talent once you have enough stat bonuses from level 120?

[abstract solar]

Aight

[stark quiver]

flame is best all around
with or without is still good

[white agate]

and does it drop only at level 1 or is it obtainable rerolling the cat?

[stark quiver]

pretty sure its rerollable

[white agate]

and does rerolling the cat trash all the excp gained?

[stark quiver]

no it just resets talents

[white agate]

thanks

[hoary abyss]

Where do I get these?

[eager mulch]

opsi

[viscid swift]

operation siren

[eager mulch]

shop, abyssals, cat nodes

[hoary abyss]

abyssals ? Where is that sorry

[stark quiver]

the red chest with the angry face thing on top
not the middle one

[hoary abyss]

Oh ok thanks

[hollow hollow]

where would i post a cat pic to ask if this is the best it can get

[soft raft]

where else than here...
unless you're talking about IRL cats for some reason

[eager mulch]

he can always ask in general

[half skiff]

Bro the maine coon is meta

[sweet delta]

Off topic cats in my gph?

[half skiff]

Sphinx is tier v tho

[eager mulch]