gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

The thing is for most ships where the blue 76 is appropriate they literally deal no damage gun wise to begin with

[hollow sail]

trading a considerably faster gun for 5 extra range is so questionable, and all tests i've seen comparing the two just came to the conclusion the 76mm is basically always better

[cobalt rapids]

wdym considerably faster, its 0.03s faster which is like 4% faster

[lethal verge]

most fights won't even have it shoot an extra time

[cobalt rapids]

oh

[atomic abyss]

If they have a good AOA and good guns, then yes 100 kai

If their guns are utter dogshit, just stick to the blue 76 or blue 120

[cobalt rapids]

u mean the blue gun mb

[atomic abyss]

That's all, why make it so complicated

[hollow sail]

yes

[sharp socket]

im asking for most optimal because i have abundance of twin 127 and just now learning that twin 100 isnt a bad option

[cobalt rapids]

depends on battle and where they tested
in general yea 76mm is just better

[atomic abyss]

Twin 127 and twin 100 both loss out to the purple twin 120 in gun damage lol

[cobalt rapids]

there is a use case scenario where a cm used to hang just outside 76mm range iirc

[atomic abyss]

Twin 100 can be used to craft the twin 100 kai
The twin 127 is just a stat stick for subs I guess

[hollow sail]

iirc i recall seeing something about how VT isn't always accurate though i don't remember the specifics, so that doesn't help with determining what's better

[sharp socket]

my DD usage has shrunk to basically 2 ships now so i can afford to optimise a little

[atomic abyss]

Which 2 DDs are these?

[sharp socket]

tai yuan and laffey1

[atomic abyss]

Do consider that there are CLs that use DD main guns

[lethal verge]

laffey wants DPS guns

[atomic abyss]

Both would prefer the twin 120 if you lack anything better (i.e gold twin 130)

[hollow sail]

which twin 127mm are we talking about here

[atomic abyss]

There's only one notable no?
The gold one from US boxes

[cobalt rapids]

these real fast guns are slower in practice due to weapon queue system

[sharp socket]

i have no CL that uses a DD gun other than sandy and i gave her twin 138.6

[hollow sail]

yea that gun is essentially just inferior to the twin 120mm

[sharp socket]

wait theres helena she has twin 120

[atomic abyss]

Use purple twin 120 for your DD main guns until you get something better tbh

Purple twin 120 is the best DD gun dps wise from tech boxes

Anything better is gear lab or events
I can't remember if there's anything from research

[lethal verge]

eh, depends. it's got the highest heavy armor dps of a non-UR gun

[atomic abyss]

Ah yes, the heavy armour that barely appears in campaign or opsi

[sharp socket]

purple twin 120 better than the rainbow twin 138.6?

[atomic abyss]

If you're concerned about your DD guns against heavy armour enemies, your priorities are missed up anwyays

[hollow sail]

while that is true, even excluding how common armor types are, one problem the gun has is that the firing range is the same as the max shell range

[lethal verge]

I mean, yeah. I'm just pointing out that it isn't categorically inferior, no questions asked

[hollow sail]

it's very easy for enemies to drift out of the shell range. also, the shells are slow

[atomic abyss]

The twin 138.6 does not come from tech boxes...

[sharp socket]

which person are you talking to about the twin 120s

or not you but the ren guy

[cobalt rapids]

twin 127

[atomic abyss]

Twin 120 > twin 127 basically

At least with the twin 100 you can make an argument about rof for barrage dps

[lethal verge]

the real benefit of the 127 is that they are super easy to obtain in large quantities

[cobalt rapids]

that would be impossible every1 only has 1 event limited copy at most

[sharp socket]

is the twin 135 better than the other accessible options you listed

[main lily]

Higher rarity Q and O research doesnt necessarily mean higher chance of getting ur gear print right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes, twin 135 is your best non rainbow option for dps against med armour essentially

[lethal verge]

this thing? the twin 127 that comes from loot boxes and drops as BPs absolutely everywhere?

[atomic abyss]

Twin 130 for light
Gold Twin 128 for both

[cobalt rapids]

no, the person i replied to deleted their msg

[lethal verge]

ah

[cobalt rapids]

depends on the research, UL research have higher chances except that the othe researches within the category ( D with D, G with G, etc. ) have around same rates just different time but this isnt always true

[lethal verge]

This will help
https://azur-stats.lyoko.io

The answer depends on how you measure it

[sharp socket]

so the DD gun ranking goes
twin 138.6 > twin 100 UR > twin 135 SAP > twin 120 > twin 100 > twin 127?

from what i gathered from this convo so far

[cobalt rapids]

theres a quite a few more u missed inbetween and thats only for gun based dds

[hollow sail]

well you might want to use UR twin 100mm over 138.6 on some ships

[lethal verge]

the answer is always "it depends"

[sharp socket]

i was basing it off what was talked here which is like 5 things

[lethal verge]

honestly stay clear of SAP unless you know what you are doing and why you want it

[cobalt rapids]

based only on the guns mentioned before then yes

but keep in mind we also got stuff like harbin gun or 128 skc which are easy accessible and good

[lethal verge]

i feel like as a general rule, if you have to ask "what guns are good", accessible and good enough is probably always going to be the first answer.

[hollow sail]

regarding 100mm vs 120mm the 10 FP extra that the 120mm has needs to make up the difference from the extra barrages and higher actual gun damage the 100mm offers, which i'm really not sure it does so often

[lethal verge]

keep in mind that destroyers have very low FP

if you have a gun based DD with below average FP, that difference of 10 can be significant.

[hollow sail]

should not make the difference really

[sonic egret]

thoughts on ikaruga ?

[cobalt rapids]

port sidegrade with better dmg that doesnt warrant the gold bulins

[sonic egret]

how about port or roon?

[lethal verge]

portland

not that roon isn't marginally better, but you shouldn't invest in her

[cobalt rapids]

port should be ur transitional tank, roon is naother port sidegrade but usually by the time shes d30 ppl get the pr4 tanks out

[sonic egret]

alright thanks

[late flame]

only reason to invest in senran kagura ships is battle-damaged default skins

[lethal verge]

there is always a place for the waifu-tier

[cobalt rapids]

werent they homescreen only or was only tako like that

[sharp socket]

gun DD has alright fp stat, like tashkent with 182, or suzutsuki with 82 but 2 mgm

[lethal verge]

suzutsuki is exactly the kind of ship that the FP stat of a gun matters

[hollow sail]

at like 100-110 FP the 10 FP grants 5% more damage, while the 100mm has 8.2% more raw gun damage over the 120mm across all armor types (and then you need to grant to the 100mm that it is much faster so more barrages)

[lethal verge]

does FP scale linearly?

[hollow sail]

follows a formula, it's basically 1 + FP/100 and that number gets inserted into a bigger formula with all other multipliers like weapon coefficiency, slot efficiency etc

[lethal verge]

ok so almost linearly

[hollow sail]

it all multiplies with eachother in the same way so the effectiveness can be determined from just this

[sonic egret]

are there UR now on the normal banner?

[fluid brook]

Yes theres Shinano and New Jersey in the Perma Banners

[sonic egret]

on the heavy
new jersey's on it no?

ah thats nice

[fluid brook]

And Shimakaze

[sonic egret]

i assume theres no feature like in the UR banners?

[lethal verge]

so a 100FP DD getting an extra 10FP based on gun should see slightly less than a 10% increase in damage based on FP stat alone. which probably doesn't make up for barrages, but depending on the DD, that can narrow the gap quite a lot

[sonic egret]

so you get them on random?

[lethal verge]

spend 400 cubes, get a free UR.

[fluid brook]

its the normal 1.2% of getting them, with a pity of 400 pulls iirc

[sonic egret]

oh yea i see it now thats really nice been wanting shima and newJ since forever

[fluid brook]

Might wanna save atleast 400 cubes for the next new UR

[lethal verge]

non-UR banners (like this one) count towards the pity

[sonic egret]

ooh any news when and who?

[tame jungle]

Just general advice

[fluid brook]

It will happen soon, idk exactly

[lethal verge]

when, probaby september. who, no one knows

[sonic egret]

alr still got plenty of time

[fluid brook]

keep in mind its a probably

[hollow sail]

i mean, if FP is 110 then the final value is 2.1, if it's 100 then it's 2, and 2.1 is 5% higher than 2

[lethal verge]

wouldn't it be 1.1 vs 1.0?

[hollow sail]

no because there's a flat +1 added

hence 1 + FP/100 as i wrote

[lethal verge]

oooh, +1 to the whole thing, not +1 to the FP

sorry, it's midnight

[hollow sail]

yes, i should have been more clear about that i guess

[lethal verge]

nah you're good. I didn't follow order of operations

[haughty star]

Just realized i got 4 vanguards but didnt get indomitable 🥹

[cobalt rapids]

this isnt #trophy-room buddy

[sonic egret]

Purple or gold version of this for sushi

[fluid brook]

Never use the gold version of that gun

[fickle scarab]

Gold version is one of the worst guns

[sonic egret]

It's funny how that works

Thanks again

[fickle scarab]

Does spread reduction work on confetti gun

[hollow sail]

only works for the original shell i believe

[plain saffron]

Before it split probably yes

[fluid brook]

what happen nagami for that name to be fill with hate?

[plain saffron]

Uhm actually there's no gold version, they just have same sprite

Good nagami is no more

[novel condor]

So which nagami we have rn

[plain saffron]

[vale spindle]

ihatenewinfoboxanimihatenewinfob

[sonic egret]

Sushi mob or boss/main fleet

[cobalt rapids]

both

[sonic egret]

Uki

[sweet delta]

I don't think this means raise dupe one for each fleet

[cobalt rapids]

[full leaf]

hi i just got back into this from 2 years ago

1. is there a way to store oil? im at 23k/9k
2. is there a list for whats meta in terms of gameplay & pvp
3. can i throw out every other ship that i dont use

[cobalt rapids]

1. you can store mail oil in mail storage up to 600k otherwise no ure limited to 25k hardcap
2. theres various tierlists and guides for each respective content for meta, check the bot commands and #pvp pins
3. you can but consider if later ull want her for tech or other various reason ull have to require so throw first the girls that are easy to get

[lean sable]

are the new SSR ships any good of use to go for it with build? 😄

[full leaf]

ok, then for now, whats the best way to spend all this excess oil

[cobalt rapids]

nothing special, pull for collection/waifu/tech if u want

[cobalt rapids]

sorties is the best way to spend oil

[sonic egret]

What do you guys think is the priority when it comes to spending gold?

[cobalt rapids]

limit breaking ur ships, upgrading gear, awakening, research, coining

[sonic egret]

Alright thanks, I have too many things to consider

[cobalt rapids]

theres alot of coin drain in the beginning yea

[sinful elk]

Chat should I +13 the improved mag torp

[cobalt rapids]

its the best auto torp afterall

[sinful elk]

[steady beacon]

Also, there are like five torpedoes, total, worth spending plates on, so you might as well spend them

[sonic egret]

how come there's no more escort ships?
microlayer medley stage B3
some of the stages before it are only 2 stars

[late flame]

there is no point in 3-starring war archives though

[sonic egret]

i looked it up and bremerton drops at B3 i was thinking of farming her

[crimson glacier]

yeah but stars do nothing for that

[sinful elk]

hmmm like which one?

[sonic egret]

ah i can just farm it regardless then

ok ok thanks

[steady beacon]

My list would run

• Quad Mag Kai
• Quad Mag
• Mk 35
• Mk IX (only if you PvP and/or manual torp meme - so I'm guilty on both counts )
• Quint 610 (only if you manual torp meme)
  I guess you can append sub torps to the list if you want to later

[sinful elk]

Mk35? what is that

[steady beacon]

/wiki Mark 35

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Mark_35_Torpedo_Mount_(Quad_Consecutive_Launch)

[sinful elk]

[cedar willow]

should i follow this guide to scrap gear? im full slot
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[steady beacon]

It's a gear lab torp sometimes worth using for boss fights
It is quite temperamental, though, so has lower prio for +13

[cedar willow]

they wrote that it's for mid+ player

[hollow sail]

for lower speed vanguard right? so basically, unzen

[steady beacon]

As long as you're not completely green and dependent on nearly every piece of equipment to fill slots, then ye you can follow it

[crimson glacier]

i dont think your own speed matters at all for anything

[hollow sail]

i believe the idea is that lower speed vanguard does not travel to the edges much so an MK35 can fire the torps down more middle and just in that area consistently

[cobalt rapids]

for lower speed bosses more like mainly, speed 0

or if u somehow keep them still like freeze or blackhole

[crimson glacier]

they are talking about enemy speed not your own speed

[steady beacon]

Low speed is certainly very useful, as we learned during Rodney META ye
Not a strict prerequisite, depending on the target's movement patterns though
With RodM, it was more significant because one had to force Rodney to come to a stop with Implacable to time correctly to Unzen, and excessive movement from both sides increases the chance of accidents happening
On the other hand, if the target is completely stationary like Hermit, I've gotten away with Mk 35s on Shima

[cobalt rapids]

if the boss is moving low speed wont save mark 35 compared to quads

[steady beacon]

Oh ye, right
Stationary target, whether forced or natural
That requirement cannot possibly be stated enough

If you can't force that, don't use them

[hollow sail]

yeah, naturally

[frank pulsar]

when a vanguard ship auto launches torps, itll correct the direction it shoots at in auto right? is there only 3 possible angles (aiming straight, up like 45 degrees and down 45 degrees) that a vanguard ship will fire its torps?

[steady beacon]

Yes, she will attempt to aim her torps, if there's a valid target in range (including both aiming range and angle)

[hollow sail]

i think that is determined by the "angle" value

[steady beacon]

If there is no valid target in range, then she will launch straight ahead

[hollow sail]

now that i look at it, their firing range is pretty shit lol. since it's 40 or below, that means it only aims under that range?

no wonder torps are so inconsistent on auto

[steady beacon]

The aiming mechanism is a bit silly or something, though, as I think Thorin once noted
Something about there being a slight delay between the aiming and firing, which can lead to obviously wrong firing angles sometimes due to target movement during that delay period

[hollow sail]

actually a few have up to 45 range

[frank pulsar]

uh im talking about vanguard ships in general, what 40 range are yall talking about

[steady beacon]

Ye, which is one reason why Jintsuu META's death torps are so ridiculously busted in PvP
Because they ignore limitations on aiming range and angle
If she chooses to aim at a backliner, that backliner is simply condemned (unless the vanguard interferes)

[worldly pewter]

where is the rainbow quint from the gear lab ?

[tame jungle]

not on the list

[hollow sail]

hm... well i thought jintsuu meta launched the torps that she has equipped, and so i would normally assume that it follows the same stats. however she has her own aimed torp barrage, if that's what you're referring to, and those have priority targetting. or do you mean that the equipped torps she launches are ignoring the firing range for some reason?

[steady beacon]

Check the range
There's the "firing" (what I call "aiming") range
Then there's the torpedo/projectile range
The first controls how far any prospective target can be to be aimed at by the torps
The second controls how far the torps once launched can actually go (hence why, if you scroll right to see the enemy backline in PvP, you sometimes see torps just explode in front of the enemy backline without hitting them, which is what happens when the torps "run out" of range)

[tulip zenith]

Is ht3 best to farm

[steady beacon]

Not on the list bc, despite owning 2 at +13, I don't really like them
Your mileage may vary on this matter, though
I just don't use them in situations where +13 is useful very often, if at all

[steady beacon]

No, I mean her death torps
When she fires two waves of her equipped ones when she dies (or, more accurately, triggers her temporary invincibility after being dealt a death blow)
Those two waves ignore aiming range and angle
When she fires her equipped torpedoes normally, those are still limited by aiming range and angle

[hollow sail]

i see, so even though they're the same torps that the equipped launcher spits out, they lack the limitations

does this apply only to jintsuu meta or do the other botes who have things like "chance to launch torps again" also do that

[inland shoal]

Even if the target does not move at all it is off if the vg moves

[frank pulsar]

ah okay ty

[slender heart]

Is there a source to know how strong the homing capability of a torp?

[inland shoal]

Which especially cucks teatorps more than it should

I think /wiki List of Torpedoes has a table with homing ranges and turn rates ?

Dunno how complete it is though

[steady beacon]

Ah thank you, Thorin, my hero

So it's due to OUR movement, not enemy movement
Another point in favour of slower vanguards

[hollow sail]

"Acoustic homing torpedoes can home in on targets within 14 units. However, they have 33% less speed than standard ones." it says this but ironically this ends up being unclear because all homing torps have the "acoustic homing" attribute but not all homing torps have "acoustic homing" ammo

[inland shoal]

It's both

[hollow sail]

the mk35 for example says that it has "magnetic (eagle union)" ammo. does that mean it might have different homing properties? heck if i know

i would like to think that it does, though

however, it's not accurate for the improved quad mags who home within 16 units anyway, but that's gear-specific

[steady beacon]

Oops did an EN
You said "even if the target does not move at all"

[inland shoal]

It's like you are at a shooting range, take perfect aim and then you move 1 meter to the right and the target moves 1 meter to the left and then you shoot with the same aim
Whaaaat you miss the target by 2m? But your aim was perfect?!?

[inland shoal]

It does

[slender heart]

This is the only thing that mentioned it

[hollow sail]

in what way?

[steady beacon]

And when both the shooter and the target are stationary but you miss anyway, that's a Pulp Fiction moment

[inland shoal]

Higher turn rate iirc, don't remember the details tho

Just remember that though the turn rate was higher the speed was also higher so the resulting turn radius was wider

[hollow sail]

yep

there's a bunch of tidbits on the wiki here and there that have not been adjusted because of new gears with slightly different properties

[steady beacon]

Blame AL for introducing a new damn AP shell every time there's a new BB gun

[inland shoal]

Guess I'll add a little thing under trajectories later

[hollow sail]

could add that improved quads have 16 unit range ig

[steady beacon]

Honestly since like... Champagne gun? Every single new gold+ AP gun has had a different AP shell

[crisp estuary]

[hollow sail]

also adding La-9 to the listed fighters that can't intercept

[hollow sail]

funny how there's a billion BB AP shells but only the same ol' HE and normal shells

[steady beacon]

Ye lol

[hollow sail]

even demi-cannon was just HE

[inland shoal]

Hmm guess I should also add that Bearcat can intercept
Though this should all be obvious from intercept cd timers anyway

[worldly pewter]

if the firing angle of a quad trp is 45° does this mean that the 2 in between ones are at 15° ?
so it goes 0 15 30 45

[hollow sail]

uh no

[inland shoal]

Yesn't

[worldly pewter]

[inland shoal]

If your 0 is weird then you are right

[hollow sail]

the firing angle is like the radius in which the weapon can aim towards

[inland shoal]

Wiki calls it "Angle" which is the aim and "Spread" which is what you describe

[hollow sail]

like say if a wep has a firing angle of 20º then if an enemy is further to the sides than that 20º angle towards each side of the ship then it can't aim/fire at it

[worldly pewter]

oh

[inland shoal]

Though ofc the aim isn't at 0 but at 22.5 in your example

[plain saffron]

so quint for example kinda like this

am it wrong or correct idk

[inland shoal]

Which quint are you even talking about?

[hollow sail]

well not towards each side i wrote that poorly, it's the full scope so 10º each side i believe if the weapon has 20º angle

[plain saffron]

well the normal gold quint

i need to buy a drawing tablet

[inland shoal]

But the standard gold quint has 80° Angle

And 60° Spread

[plain saffron]

45 degree is just example totally not because i read he said 45 and assume it's right

[inland shoal]

If both angles were 45 this would be right yes

But there is no torp with 45° Angle, just 45° Spread on Quads

[worldly pewter]

yeah totally not me who was mixing firing angle and spread

[hollow sail]

yeah and so the above will also only happen if your torps are fired when the enemy is within the firing range, like we were saying before

[inland shoal]

I've also heard aim angle and firing angle

So the terminology is just a bit of a mess

[hollow sail]

so it will need to be somewhere like 45 units or even less, depending on the torp launcher

because torps are obviously too powerful otherwise

[inland shoal]

Hmm I already forgot again if torps wait for a target

[hollow sail]

do you mean valid target in range? don't think so

[inland shoal]

I think the answer was no, they just shoot straight ahead if there's no target in aim range

[hollow sail]

yes

[steel grotto]

question how do you submit 60k coin if my cap is lower than that

[cobalt rapids]

u can get coin above softcap

just not from merchant

[steel grotto]

but that only work from claimable rewards right

[inland shoal]

If you should do that is another question since idk if you can afford it

[inland shoal]

Mainly from farming

Merchant is the only thing that can't go above softcap

Same for Canteen with oil

[steel grotto]

ah ok that makes sense

ive just been putting off leveling the guild tech for coin storage because im using the coins anyway lol

[inland shoal]

Tbh dock space is the only useful tech
(And guild roster and cats for the ppl who care ig)

[sinful escarp]

if you keep doing guild missions your points will build up easily and you can just get what you want whenever you want, so other than dock space just get them whenever

[tulip zenith]

Should I be farming event stage or is daily sp enough

[cobalt rapids]

60k milestone is recommended aim

[tulip zenith]

Zamn

What’s the best stage to farm

[steel grotto]

daily sp and ht3

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

[cobalt rapids]

ht3
low costing t2 and farming campaign in parallel is also an option

[steel grotto]

isnt the sr gun bp from ht3 kinda decent and also an event only drop?

[cobalt rapids]

not rly, can be decent but decent doesnt matter when u get better easier accesible options

[steel grotto]

that is true

[inland shoal]

What is the drop?

[eager mulch]

[sacred reef]

hi can someone help me build opsi fleets?

[frank pulsar]

make thread and post dock inside it

[sacred reef]

alright itll be up in a few minutes

opsi fleets

[tranquil saffron]

What's the best way to get 1500 opsi shop vouchers in 2 days

[atomic abyss]

Throw all your AP to abyssals and strongholds if you haven't
Then proceed to grind C5 ig

[inland shoal]

Do Harbiter

[abstract solar]

Is Jimmy's youtube channel a reliable source? His videos seem alright

[atomic abyss]

The best of the worst

[eager mulch]

YouTube is not a reliable source of information

[abstract solar]

[atomic abyss]

It's probably the least offensive in terms of being wrong but, yeah YouTube isn't reliable for AL to begin with

[abstract solar]

I see

[atomic abyss]

AL meta is basically ever changing
So leaving outdated guides without noting that it's outdated is pretty

[abstract solar]

That do be true

[steady beacon]

Focus on those that deal with fundamental mechanics
Since what you learn from those will at least last, and you can actually learn something that can be applied to other situations
But even case studies as a snapshot in time can be learned from, provided you understand that you can't just take an ancient comp into a modern setting
Not naming names, mafia users

[primal silo]

In what order?
(I can buy 6 rainbow bulins rn)

[plain saffron]

haku and soyuz

[atomic abyss]

Soyuz > Laffey 2
Haku doesn't need bulins

[plain saffron]

wait i'm dumb haku is dev

soyuz then save

or laffey idk, we don't know if next event gonna have UR or not

[frank pulsar]

imho laffey ii not as worth when you already mlb guam

[atomic abyss]

Well

[plain saffron]

considering free UR exist now

[atomic abyss]

I think we may be in for a shock with EN Anni but

[plain saffron]

i'm expecting one on EN anni

[jaunty vault]

admin leaks

[steady beacon]

Ender has inside information

True admin privileges

[atomic abyss]

Nah it's probably not a UR banner or anything

[jaunty vault]

too late

[atomic abyss]

I mean

Just look at the stream page

[eager mulch]

the real EN anni was the friends we made along the way

[atomic abyss]

Btw
When was our last retro before Colo?

[frank pulsar]

i think west virginia...? im dented idk

[jaunty vault]

wasnt it west verginia

[atomic abyss]

When was weevee

[jaunty vault]

yesterday

last anniversary... fuck

i realised what ender was pointing at

[atomic abyss]

What did you think I was talking about

[shell willow]

[keen sable]

The final countdown 🎶

[steady beacon]

Nachi from JP anni

[atomic abyss]

As in the gyaru?

[steady beacon]

Understandable to forget though

Is she gyaru?
No idea

/wiki Nachi

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nachi
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nachi/Quotes
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Nachi/Gallery
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Admiral_Nakhimov
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Admiral_Nakhimov/Gallery

Jul 30, 2024, 1:00 PM

[steady beacon]

Ye, I also think of Nakhi more than Nachi, what a coincidence

[balmy matrix]

Is this worth to put in Hood?

[eager mulch]

not worth to get

[balmy matrix]

Just buy white shell?

[eager mulch]

just buy white shell

[small fern]

I'm level 70 at world 7 and I got Nelson unicorn starter retro

Who should I go for next

[steady beacon]

Portland probably

[left cedar]

yeah, both hot asf ... but, no dude, they are quite differently

[warm flax]

Chen Hai

[abstract solar]

Yea I'll only watch the ones that explain the mechanics

[inland shoal]

Oh wow I completely forgot Nachi got a retrofit
Even though I completed it right away

Also didn't realise how long ago this convo was, ded chat

[sonic egret]

2 steam catapults or steam cata and aviation oil tank on enty

[tame jungle]

2 cats

[cobalt rapids]

steamcatas if gold, either if purple

[sonic egret]

gotcha

[manic lintel]

Whats the best way to burn oil?

[cobalt rapids]

sorties

[late flame]

grind event and/or campaign
or buy dorm food (curry)

[nova halo]

buying foods

[cobalt rapids]

buying foods is not a good way to get rid of oil just a fast way

[shell willow]

buying food is fastest but not best

[nova halo]

or go for sorties with x2 rewards item

[astral turret]

If I purchase a secret with a ticket, does it disappear after the timer expires? Or does it stay for good

[cobalt rapids]

once purchased stays forever

timer is just their availability

[astral turret]

Okay awesome, thanks!

[sharp socket]

how much of an improvement is fdg dev30 to fs5

[cobalt rapids]

removed flag req + prox barrage on salvo

[sharp socket]

so basically she becomes a normal UR BB?

[cobalt rapids]

she was normal before, just makes her more consistent no more conditional buff for fp either
and abit more dmg due to extra barrages
she still doesnt outshine other URs on ST when her prox isnt triggered

[eager mulch]

[radiant lodge]

What is the recommended amount of event tokens to farm? The 100k for all rewards seems a bit too much

[cobalt rapids]

60k for all gold plates and all shop prios should fit within this amount aswell

[manic lintel]

Uhhm.. how long will it take to farm all the tokens..?

[polar lion]

Is it better to craft or buy George gun using protocores?

[cobalt rapids]

whichever resource u care less about

[cobalt rapids]

depends how much u play

[sonic egret]

what do players normally prio buying in the event shop?

[radiant lodge]

What are the event shop priorities? I remember it used to be pinned but it is not there currently

[manic lintel]

Aha. Is there a point to doing the normal mode over hard mode if your ships are leveled?

[eager mulch]

event shop prio is usually the stuff that I need

if I don’t need it I don’t buy it

[cobalt rapids]

event limited gear + (ship if didnt drop ) + cogs/arrays + oil + prints/cat boxes

[eager mulch]

but what I need ≠ what you need

renhex how much longer do I have for the event, I haven’t started yet

[cobalt rapids]

theres an argument for lowcosting t2 iguess if ure lategame player

[cobalt rapids]

<t:1723100400:R>

[sharp socket]

for me in event i get DR/PR prints, cog array, gold cats, aux plates, IJN tech box and oil

[sonic egret]

where do you get stars of loyalty

[cobalt rapids]

u cannot anymore, it was during vanguard rerun, the previous event

[sonic egret]

damn, how come theres still a shop

[cobalt rapids]

shop usually stays up for 1 week after event ends

[atomic abyss]

So people can exchange the event currency
Most gacha games keep their event stores open for about another week

[north gazelle]

Is it possible to get 60k points within 14 days?

[cobalt rapids]

yeap

[tame jungle]

ye

[cobalt rapids]

casually or mby abit more than casually

[tame jungle]

if you're low level it might be a little hard

[north gazelle]

How can you give me the estimation. Do you have multiple fleets for event? Or you run a single fleet. I am sorry I am new and I am struggling to do even 30k

I can do ht1 at most

[cobalt rapids]

u still got 9 days its not even half

try to push for ht2 if possible and unlock oilcap

[north gazelle]

I have a single fleet only tho in which the bc is underleveled

[manic lintel]

Is there a way to obtain past event weapons? Like tashkent’s gun

[whole crypt]

tashkent gun is in core shop

[cobalt rapids]

only if they archived somehow either through craft or shops or so

[cobalt rapids]

use the other fleet with no bc req

[north gazelle]

Ok thanks

[keen sable]

Considering the leader on sandy has 90k currently, 60k is peanuts

[north gazelle]

I see

[keen sable]

You probably need at least 6 L100 ships to one fleet HT2

[north gazelle]

Yeah

[undone plover]

i have asked this Q before so sorry for asking again but is leaving hinden like this better if I am trying to get 8 hinden gun BPs ASAP
i can use some DR6 prints to finish her soon but just wondering if I should hold off to cope on the assumption that (less face research = more gear research)

[eager mulch]

pointless

[keen sable]

If you can only do HT1 try to use as few ships as possible. Overkill is very wasteful.

[eager mulch]

it doesn’t reduce the amount of face researches by leaving her like that

[undone plover]

I always ask if this was confirmed and no one says so
shouldnt i get less faces overall in theory at least?

[cobalt rapids]

if u complete hindy faces will just reset since every1 in that season is completed, but we dont know how faces are rolled
if for example it has to roll from all research projects then not rolling the other faces would theoritcally improve ur chances to get gear projects
if it rolls face proj instead and then decides which one it doesnt matter
either way to my knowledge project distribution isnt known besides face elimination

[whole crypt]

we don't actually know how the researches are picked but anecdotally I feel face is rolled before ship is picked, so whether you remove ships from the pool at all doesn't change chance of rolling specific research types

[keen sable]

I've never seen dupe same face

[undone plover]

so it is not conclusive but it would have a miniscule effect even if it did right?

I will take every advantage (fake or real) I can get thanks

[cobalt rapids]

either way if ure staying in pr6 to finish the gun then no need to rush her with selectors anyway unless u need her rn now
better saved for eventuall fs5 or when u finish her gun and somehow shes not finished

[whole crypt]

personally I don't feel it matters, if you don't get a rigging just roll a refresh

[cobalt rapids]

rolled refresh i now have 5 basics

[whole crypt]

but if it helps you sleep better at night I guess

[undone plover]

infinite refresh glitch?

[whole crypt]

just take short reseraches

I usually don't hit the refresh button if there's anything less than 2hours

[hollow gust]

Honestly faces are my best source of gear prints

[cobalt rapids]

tldr just get lucky

[whole crypt]

faces are great for gear prints if they're 0.5

[hollow gust]

I got 9 1a-9s and all of them came from blue or purple faces

[keen sable]

if you only do 5 research a day your proportion of 0.5h research goes up

[whole crypt]

14 La-9 prints now

[hollow gust]

[cobalt rapids]

🏆

[sharp socket]

normal people dont get a third tenrai before completing pr4 right

[hollow gust]

That was a blue face

[whole crypt]

define "normal people"

[sharp socket]

people that have poor rng luck

[cobalt rapids]

thats not normal

[whole crypt]

that's not how statistics fundamentally works

[cobalt rapids]

normal would be average and that means average rng

[whole crypt]

how does 254 compare with non-rainbow CA guns?

[sharp socket]

fine average rng

[undone plover]

with coining and catchup a third tenrai would be unrealisitic unless u do gear focus intentionally

[whole crypt]

well "completing PR4" is a lot faster now since catchup and coining exists so 2-3 Tenrais sound about right

[hollow gust]

It only takes 3-4 months for 1 UR weapon , you have to be doing something incredibly dumb to pull out 3 UR weapons in the time it takes to dev30/fate 5

[keen sable]

I think two is a bit sus already

[sharp socket]

what is average rng for UR gear prints anyway

[cobalt rapids]

average rng depends on ur focus but starting gear focus in pr4 when u got 3 other seasons to catchup on research is indeed not recc so ideally ur goal is to get 1 + 1 from protocore and complete the ships

[whole crypt]

across the year if you focus gear around 4 copies, not including shop

[sharp socket]

so one every 3 months?

[sharp socket]

in that case i have god awful rng because i got 60 prints in like 5 months of actually doing research the right way

[whole crypt]

on an older series with catchup though you kind of finish it in a few months so you may not get more than 2 copies

[keen sable]

So ignoring faces for q right?

[sharp socket]

while gear focusing yea

i only switched to face focus like less than a month ago because i stopped being in debt

[undone plover]

what was your gear focus like exactly? were u taking bad research when u couldnt afford to take good ones? were u taking long research like C if u didnt get Q?

[tulip zenith]

Do you get standard ur pity on event banner

[whole crypt]

any non-UR banner will add to perm pity

how does 254 compare with non-rainbow CA guns?

[tulip zenith]

Ok thx

[sharp socket]

take the cheapest nodes and the rigging analysis nodes, refresh if there arent any available

[worldly pewter]

i was doing gear intentionally
got me 14 prints after the first one

[sharp socket]

once i stopped being in debt i started doing face research more

[keen sable]

Is not too far from average. 0.4/d vs 0.56/d

[tulip zenith]

Also should I keep pulling event banner daily I already got strasbourg and audacieux and I have like 600 cubes

[cobalt rapids]

medium otp

[undone plover]

if u do gear focus u should take mostly Q and G with occassional E and resetting with shortest not cheapest
so 5 months for 60 prints is probably due to not optimal choice but ofc rng is rng so cant guarentee it

[whole crypt]

OTP?

[cobalt rapids]

one trick pony

[whole crypt]

is it bad for light/heavy or just because slow for higher calibre

[sharp socket]

even now its still mainly gear nodes i take because haku doesnt wanna show up

[whole crypt]

but she's right there

[sharp socket]

she came after 2 days of not being there

[cobalt rapids]

i mean yea its slow, for light theres better options like alg
for heavy idk

[whole crypt]

well I'm just thinking whether to craft one for leveling since rainbows all on active duty ships

[sharp socket]

anyway after haku fs5 which may take 2-3 months i go to pr5 for ply correct

and sit there until i get ply and brest to d30 and hopefully more than one plygun

[undone plover]

shouldnt take 2-3 months but yeah

u should just do full haku focus and forget about the third tenrai
are you close to it anyway?

[cobalt rapids]

i mean i would its basicly free

[sharp socket]

about halfway

[undone plover]

no I meant to the third tenrai not haku

[whole crypt]

but I have roon guns, cheshire guns and then there's kursk gun and blucher gun to spare too

[wary timber]

I heard that this AA gun would be good on Sandy ?

[sharp socket]

i have 14 prints in shop and 2 prints in storage

[whole crypt]

it's nice for her surface damage but I wouldn't recommend it if she's in a plane hell

[undone plover]

this aa gun is only a stat stick used to give FP when AA is not a concern

[soft raft]

That gun is mainly known for being FP stat for non-campaign uses

Idk where you heard that from but that is factually incorrect

[cobalt rapids]

i mean its just a slightly better kursk gun

[whole crypt]

to be fair 134 is still okay alpha and range if for up to ch13, if full retrofitted with aug

but for 13H and 15 definitely not

[wary timber]

So what's better ? The gold 113mm?

[sharp socket]

roomba or 6ofors is good

[undone plover]

yeah with full haku focus u should finish before getting the third tenrai i think but I would just move on at that point
i assume everyone else in pr4 is FS5 and agir dev30 right?

[whole crypt]

or rainbow
it depends on where you're using her

134 actually has okay alpha damage if you're just using her in 12 or 13 norm

[wary timber]

I know the 6ofors has a high alpha but which deals a better alpha and can shoot down more planes effectively

[sharp socket]

ancho avp agir are finished, marco not yet

marco is now developing and at 270 prints

[undone plover]

get her and coin her then if u have not. it will make haku faster

[whole crypt]

but marco can be coined once you have the ship

[sharp socket]

should i coin her first or cheshire

[whole crypt]

depends on your needs

[undone plover]

do u need protocore from pr3 catchup?

[sharp socket]

coining cheshire will let me get her protocore from catchup but i can hold that off

[wary timber]

Assuming that I need Sandy to cover at least 1 ship that has inferior AA. Which would be better

[sharp socket]

cause fdg catchup is like one whole UR gun already

[shell willow]

whats the exchange rate from dr print to protocore?

[whole crypt]

you still haven't answered where

[undone plover]

if u dont need the protocore fast then do marco first

[wary timber]

Assume the most plane heavy worlds

[undone plover]

1 DR print = 20 protocore

[shell willow]

hooly

[sharp socket]

if you’re willing to be in debt for 73 days, dont catchup fdg and only do so after dev30 and protocore her prints to get a UR protocore gear of your choice

[soft raft]

Sextuple/Roomba

[whole crypt]

just don't rush proto cores

[wary timber]

I assume roomba is the twin 113mm?

[whole crypt]

rainbow AA also works but cost wise +13 roomba probably more accessible

[wary timber]

Gotcha. I'm glad I didn't scrap those

[sharp socket]

also know that this isnt a very good idea because youll time gate yourself from doing things like w13 and above

[undone plover]

u can do that with azuma and drake and get FdG catchup.
will still be enough for all UR gear in the shop + 3x champy
but not if u waste your other sources

[sharp socket]

i wasted my other sources

[whole crypt]

I still say there's no rush with proto cores

[sharp socket]

i used cdc pack for roon, saint louis and fdg

[whole crypt]

CDPs don't add to that much though, they're like 2 cores a pop, and you get more every new cruise season

[cobalt rapids]

doing the catchups faer said will give u more than enough but it will take a long time

[undone plover]

yeah initially getting champy + tenrai is enough tbh
and rookie missions and cruise pass is enough for that

[wide bramble]

Heyoo, so getting into Op Si a bit more, still pretty fresh into it. About how far in (or if there's anything I should be doing) to Op Si until I start seeing things like these? (along with Main battery and auxi ones too, but using plane one for example)

[whole crypt]

even Tenrai can be skipped earlier

[sharp socket]

i would say that using those CDPs actually sped up my progression because i didnt need to farm cdc with ships and extra gear i didnt have at the time and thus didnt need to sidetrack for that

but it also put me in crippling debt faster so

[stark quiver]

I think that’s what they do

[whole crypt]

shop/abyssals/cat dives

final boss in stronghold also can drop 1

arbs too probably but not sure if you're there yet

[small fern]

Already got her

Retrofit

[sharp socket]

normal arbiter also drops a UR gear plan selector iirc

[wide bramble]

Def not, I'm only this far (short) in

[undone plover]

do you have independence or saratoga?

[whole crypt]

just keep clearing, you want to clear up to ch4 at least to get monthly resets

[wide bramble]

[sharp socket]

you can get there in like maybe 2 hours then farm your way to 50 zone clears and grind through until you get to buy most shop things

[whole crypt]

that depends heavily on your ships and levels

[sharp socket]

you have over a day to do that, it should be fine if you have a good (leveled) fleet setup

[wide bramble]

I have full lv. 125 fleets and stuff rn so, currently fleets are

NJ, Essex, Enty, Hindenburg, San Fran. Helena
Biscuit 2, Unicorn, Aquila, Agir, Unzen, Scylla

not having any difficulties since they're all kinda stacked.

[whole crypt]

then yeh probably try to push to clear up OS before month change so you can start getting missions and use new shop next month

[wide bramble]

Sounds gooood. I'll start grinding. Thanksss ❤️

[whole crypt]

there's no need to clear 50 zones before the reset, just clear and buy what you can before month is over

[wide bramble]

Where exactly is the shop (if I can even click on it)

[stoic badger]

i just got this what does it do

[whole crypt]

in the blue ports

[wide bramble]

Thanks - Sorry I'm raelly dumb ^^;

[whole crypt]

furniture

[sharp socket]

collectible furniture

[stoic badger]

in dorm?

[rain vine]

yes

[north gazelle]

What's cdc pack?

[eager mulch]

combat data pack is what it’s called and it’s (wastefully) used for combat data collection

[keen sable]

Most shop items is basically no shop items

[sharp socket]

good shop items like UR gear plan selectors and ordnance plan

[whole crypt]

you don't get new shop before reset

[sharp socket]

ah i see

i thought it worked that way but i guess my experience was exceptional

[full leaf]

is clearing story important? i returned after 2 years and idk if being at chapter 7 is good

[keen sable]

Event > story

[whole crypt]

you want to be at least be up to 12 for effective grinding

but active events take precedence until you have enough milestone/shop currency

[full leaf]

ah ok thank you, still overwhelmed with the ships i have and forgot what they do and stuff

[quiet pawn]

Can you add people as friends?

[cobalt rapids]

yep u can

[whole crypt]

you can, it just doesn't do very much in-game

[eager mulch]

only if they’re in the same server*

[echo adder]

Help me out, who do i replace

[keen sable]

I allowed someone on gph to friend me once because they wanted someone to whack their dossier HirM or something. They never did send a second request.

[eager mulch]

I’ve got plenty of ectl members added on a wide variety of places

[silver river]

How to get hms Aurora?

[tame jungle]

i think for now light construction only. there's no guaranteed way to get her so don't waste your cubes on it

[worldly pewter]

best way is the wishing well

[silver river]

Thanks)

[narrow wyvern]

I've never really touched OPSI but does anyone know why these are the only units available?

I can remember smth happening back when I was running my grind for Mainz so I assume that might've tampered with it, but other than that, I haven't done anything

[cobalt rapids]

do u have a filter active

[tame jungle]

i reckon you just slapped these characters into opsi when you first opened it?

[cobalt rapids]

also for restructure u have to do it with fleet order from ports

[rain vine]

youre looking at the dock heal ui

[narrow wyvern]

I think this might be the case, yeah

I recognize the ships as the ones I used when I was grinding for Mainz

[tame jungle]

yeah, if you exit out, check top right for "orders" button and you can redeploy while in a (blue?) port

[narrow wyvern]

The regroup thingy here?

[tame jungle]

this opens a menu similar to the one you see before challenging regular stages and from there it should be relatively straightforward

[narrow wyvern]

Gotcha, thanks

[tight jetty]

need help with fleet setup for 15-4

[wintry ember]

hello, i´m new at the game so i wanna ask 3 questions. Does this mean the medal shop will reset? or the event store?. Also, should i buy any ship with those medals?

[cobalt rapids]

give /w15 a read and if problems open thread here

[soft raft]

Medal shop refreshes its stock and changes the ship selection every month
As for medal shop ship priority, Enterprise >= Hood for pratical purposes, everyone else is realistically tech fodder

Event store persists for a extra week after the event it's attached to ends, going away until said event reruns

[wintry ember]

I see, thanks

[desert trellis]

yo i wanna ask if there is a rerun for limited skins so ppl can buy them again in a period of time?

[hollow gust]

Well skins rerun with the events they came with , and you can buy basically all the skins at Black Friday . Ofc there are mini event skins that are special and can't be bought. For example Belfast's pizza ,battle maid and pocky

[still merlin]

how would you guys rate this gun?

[cobalt rapids]

meh

[hollow gust]

Meh

[still merlin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/763025761132609546.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[hollow gust]

Damn pressing uppercase cost me the race

[still merlin]

I see, so a "meh"

it feels like CL gun with HE ammo is still better overall, is it?

[steel grotto]

in the community tier list isnt it like 2nd best for BBs

[hollow gust]

HE ammo isn't the different makers

[golden granite]

is there a list of all the ships in the game with a preload

[still merlin]

I briefly look over the dps rate the CL gun list and most of the one with HE ammo do better dmg for all armor type

[steady beacon]

Oh huh
I didn't realise they had added it to ECTL

[soft raft]

it's sharing that spot with two other guns and one of them (Triple 155mm) is infinetly more accessible on top of having a more suited pattern for interception

[steady beacon]

I mean, hell, if you have one and none of the other good ones, sure stick them onto a BB as secondary
Since it's HT3 drop and all

[steel grotto]

i mean it is tedious to get so imo its just like a ooh i have this gun kind of moment if you own one

[soft raft]

[hollow gust]

HE ammo is more prevalent , but literally the best cl gun ingame is ap

[still merlin]

you mean the plymount gun ?

[steady beacon]

Ye

[still merlin]

yea no doubt

[patent pivot]

65 fp

[still merlin]

but aside from that one coz hard to obtain...

[desert trellis]

alright thxxxx

[hollow gust]

Talking about pizza skin, I need that event reran, didn't grab the hornet one

[still merlin]

if we talk about SR CL gun only then is this the overall most solid gun?

[hollow gust]

That gun works

[soft raft]

Overall most solid only as a BB secondary outside of W14

[cobalt rapids]

thats like a tbtsk for cls mg

[soft raft]

The bullet pattern is crap for vanguard use
Its gear lab upgrade into the 155 Kai is more suitable as a CL Main gun and as a BB Secondary in W14

[steel grotto]

its the upgraded version thats better for vanguards right

[atomic abyss]

that is basically the 2nd best CL gun from tech boxes

maybe even 3rd

the keywords are tech boxes

you get much better stuff from gearlab or research

[sweet delta]

The best gold for CLs https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_152mm_(Mle_1930_HE)#Type_0-0
And the pr7 one niche to medium only but by that time you should have some rainbow guns anyways

[still merlin]

I guess for easy resource (like openning tech box) then it'll be solid, else it less valuable compare to those in gear lab?

[cedar willow]

do PR ships not mlb still work?

[hollow gust]

Very very few

[cobalt rapids]

depends on ship and ur dock

[atomic abyss]

for "easily accessible" the purple twin 150mm from ironblood boxes exceeds it
the tripl 155 is only valuable cos it can be upgraded in gear lab

[atomic abyss]

well, what do you mean by "still work" is the question really

[hollow gust]

Ships like agir anchor and Brest don't suffer as much from non mlb but they are not better then your ships if you are dirt poor

[soft raft]

very few but even then they would still be missing parts of their kit

like yeah sure a D25 Ply can work for purely utility, but she's missing the rest of her damage which makes her DPS cracked af

[cedar willow]

hm can be better than other MLB low tier ships ?

[soft raft]

Maybe, but dont bother trying to justify using non-D30 ships
Especially Backliners

[polar venture]

Why can't I get the reward? I don't understand

[soft raft]

/corewarning

[odd root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1234503367070449664/image.png?ex=6630f85a&is=662fa6da&hm=54a69b0a628f86ece9e973ea5952798e87f4adf1e5c5931926afa4260f147042&

[polar venture]

😦

[atomic abyss]

it's literally 1.5 days from the end of the month

[cedar willow]

2 more days for reset new month

[atomic abyss]

claim your weekly rewards after the month crosses

[fresh hamlet]

guichen or dido

[atomic abyss]

for what purpose

[soft raft]

Dunno what purpose but I'd prob raise Guichen over Dido

[fresh hamlet]

aa

[atomic abyss]

dido has slightly better AA
but neither tbh, surely you can do better than that...

[silver river]

What's the point of killing her if they don't give her a reward?

[soft raft]

Uh they do
Unless you're doing the practice ones then which yeah they dont, but you still gotta do them anyways to get to the actual one

[fresh hamlet]

unfortunately not, sandy is on my 1st fleet

[atomic abyss]

then raise juneau retro

or grab cheshire

[silver river]

I just defeated her, they didn’t give me anything :(

[fresh hamlet]

alr then

[soft raft]

You must've been doing a practice arbiter then
Or you already beat the Hard mode Arbiter and forgot about doing such

[silver river]

probably) I already killed two before her, it seems

I don't know much about this

[still merlin]

plot twist: someone has help piloted the acc and cleared the hard mode already

[soft raft]

Welp just keep plugging away at that since the practice arbiters lead to the one that actually gives rewards so it's worth the time spent

[silver river]

Oke, thanks)

[hollow gust]

Just use Juneau, she is a blue

[north gazelle]

How about isuzu?

[atomic abyss]

even better at AA, but absolutely nothing else

[cobalt rapids]

isuzu kuzu
all she does is aa and by the time u get her u wont need her

[atomic abyss]

frailer, even less damage
and more importantly, a pain in the ass to get

[sweet delta]

Isuzu drops left and right ||from 15-1||

[atomic abyss]

i mean sushi, would someone who is farming in w15 even farm 15-1 in particular

[sweet delta]

Of course

[cobalt rapids]

im some1 who farms in w15 15-1 in particular

[sweet delta]

🤝

[shell willow]

i got like 3 new ships from w15

[quasi phoenix]

any goood modern azur lane beginner guide?

[forest palm]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[elder grove]

I need advice and some guides on how too play. https://discord.com/channels/456397991847395339/1141190690659901521 this is my ships I have 254 dock space and it's almost full do I scrap the ships I mlb?

[cobalt rapids]

that thread is 1 year old

[elder grove]

I haven't played in 1 years because of a login issue, and before that I took a 6 months break after playing every day for months

I forgot a lot bout the game

[cobalt rapids]

what content are u on rn

actually lets continue in thread

[untold acorn]

Does anyone know what a siren data logging tower looks like... Been trying to clear this mission for a while now running it on repeat and getting nothing

[untold acorn]

Thank you! Guess ive been super unlucky

[forest palm]

[viral flicker]

Will this 3 work on her

[viscid swift]

the main gun is absolutely garbage

that would be your poverty build

[cobalt rapids]

the other 2 arent great either but ig it works

[viral flicker]

Poverty? Am I that broke?

[soft raft]

Yes
Higher rarity also doesnt always mean better

[viral flicker]

Ik that u once said that

[elder grove]

how do I increase the happy metre again?

[north gazelle]

By slotting them in dorm

[viral flicker]

Let them rest in dorm

@viscid swift @soft raft as u guys remember I don't have aa guns what should I do rn

[viscid swift]

well I don't know what exactly you have to work with

[viral flicker]

Dam I am forgotten

[worldly pewter]

make a thread and screenshot everything u have that way u will be remembered

[viral flicker]

Nah

[soft raft]

Have fun clogging the main chat then ig
or being too vauge for us to sufficently get a good idea of your situation

[viscid swift]

that then, use whatever for the AA gun slot

[forest palm]

good ol bread box

[keen sable]

i can tell you those are awful aa guns. Completely unusable

[forest palm]

[north gazelle]

Is the taskent gun bad, the b13 twin one?

[forest palm]

no it's perfectly still usable if you lack the better options

[viral flicker]

Ik dude

[pale mason]

he's saying that those aren't even aa guns xd

[viral flicker]

Can't do anything

[soft raft]

It's pretty good
but the Chinese have their own near identical knockoff in PR5 that you can mass produce relatively faster than waiting for core data shop to refresh every month

[north gazelle]

I am using hood and I am lacking suicide boat interception

[keen sable]

128

[north gazelle]

128?

[soft raft]

Just use this (The 128 Unique is talking about)
No real need to go out of your way to buy Tash gun (and even then, your vanguard ships would have higher prio for it)

[north gazelle]

Ok

Thx

[worldly pewter]

as a new player u won't get a tashkent gun
probably for a very long time

[north gazelle]

I am only able to do ht1 with full fleet. Should I do ht1 or farm passionate polaris to level up my ships so that I can attempt harder stages in future?

[keen sable]

Imo farm pp

I think the math supports it but I ain't doing the calcs

[north gazelle]

Yeah because of the oil cap. The ht1 doesn't have it and I have to spend 61 oil per run.

Also the boss doesn't die quickly

[keen sable]

Yes exactly. Oil you spend on pp will be returned when you do event much more efficiently for same amount of points

[north gazelle]

Also is the cosmic kick good? I heard it as a substitute for the washing machine until I haven't it

[wary timber]

The Tai Yuan uses a different thing for her retrofit right

[forest palm]

yes, Tai Yuan, An Shen, and Chang Chun all use different retrofit items

[atomic abyss]

they may look the same but are ever so slightly different

[wary timber]

I missed the event for that item it seems

[shell willow]

at least you asked before doing her full retrofit page like me

[keen sable]

Yes alhough there's a corollary that speed kills

[wary timber]

I already have Anshan and Chang Chun retrofitted. I was planning on a 3rd DDG

[half skiff]

is retrofit more than just a stat boost and a skin?

[atomic abyss]

new skill as well

[half skiff]

right

[atomic abyss]

sometimes even a hull change

[half skiff]

for all of them?

[atomic abyss]

all or all except 1, i remember there might have been 1 exception

[wary timber]

In cases like Anshan Chang Chun and Tai Yuan they change torps for missiles

[half skiff]

roger

is it worth it ro retrofit rare ship? or should i just wait to get better stuff instead?

[atomic abyss]

if it's portland, absolutely worth

retro ships you use, basically

[wary timber]

I suggest retrofitting ships like Unicorn, Portland and Helena

[atomic abyss]

hence why unicorn is the highest priority

not helena

your starter, for the rookie missions

[half skiff]

right, was mainly thinking of longisland and Z 23

[atomic abyss]

unicorn > portland > starter

rest can wait

long is crap and you should not use her

[half skiff]

roger

[wintry ember]

hello, its worth to spend 30gems into reaching lvl 100 in this thing to get the UR bulin? cant do the Siren thing cuz i lvl 45

[atomic abyss]

how close are you after claiming everything else

[wintry ember]

you mean this?

cant do those, i think i have like 1d 12h

[atomic abyss]

i mean yeah, it does seem like you have rewards unclaimed too

[wintry ember]

oh no, its a bug i think there are all claimed

[atomic abyss]

and 400k exp isn't impossible to get in 2 days

[atomic abyss]

i rather you'd spend your cubes trying to clear the 50 builds, than gems

[wintry ember]

but i dont reach lvl 100 that way

[forest palm]

I've never seen past week 6

[wintry ember]

just 98 and a half

that one gives 1,2 lvls sadly

[atomic abyss]

push the remaining 350k exp from the s.p missions

[pale mason]

did you check the S.P. missions

[viscid swift]

if you had to pay, I'd rather reccomend getting the level 70 commander pack

[wintry ember]

these

[pale mason]

oh didnt see that screenshot mb

[wintry ember]

i dont think i cant do those in 1d and 12hs lol

[atomic abyss]

it is doable with enough effort

[pale mason]

what stage are you at? 400k exp isn't completely out of reach

[atomic abyss]

admittedly for a new player, it's a bit rough

an old player can clear 400k exp within 2-3 hours

[wintry ember]

i started playing 13 days ago so...

im at 5-1 i think

[viscid swift]

^
it'll boost you to commander level 70 giving you access to Operation Siren among other things

[keen sable]

You did everything in week 8?

[pale mason]

he did everythin besides opsi

[wintry ember]

no cuz im lvl 45 cant do siren

[signal pollen]

Does drake have a fate sim?

[viscid swift]

yes

[pale mason]

every research ship has fate sim, no?

what ship doesnt have 😮

[signal pollen]

I was told agir doesn’t have one

[viscid swift]

no
PR7, 6, Plymouth, Brest, and Agir don't have fate sims

[half skiff]

fate sims?

[pale mason]

so mostly the more recent ships

[sinful path]

Those cant use coins right? Fir drake and fdg i think it can actually

[viscid swift]

yes, Hakuryu as well

[keen sable]

How does gems help you

[pale mason]

u can buy cruise mission levels with gems

[wintry ember]

but i dont want to put money, thats why im asking if it is worth to spend the 30 gems to buy the ticket to skip a OS mission and reach lvl 100 instantly, or if doing any of the other missions if possible since the "pass" ends in 1d

[sinful path]

Wait haku can use coins?

[viscid swift]

she can't

[sinful path]

Ah k

[signal pollen]

What exactly is drake’s role? Tank? AA?

[viscid swift]

getting clowned on

[cobalt rapids]

tank and dmg

[viscid swift]

in seriousness she's decently tanky decently high damage

[signal pollen]

Thanks

[cobalt rapids]

@ cooper 📣

[sinful path]

Where should i put nakhimov on mob or boss with soyuz

[viscid swift]

no clue

[sinful path]

Bru

[half skiff]

what source is that? could use such a data base

[viscid swift]

Give it another few months

[pale mason]

the tierlist website lol https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca?ship=drake

[forest palm]

no one has Nakmov Dev 30 how do you expect anyone to know wtf to do with an underdeveloped ship

[sinful path]

I finished that in less than a week lol

[viscid swift]

I meant blueprint count

[elder grove]

what is this?

[pale mason]

full dev 30 too?

[sinful path]

Nonono

[cobalt rapids]

arcade shop, basically skins

[half skiff]

ty!

[sinful path]

Ah that same

[half skiff]

why is she cat btw?

[atomic abyss]

dev 30 nakhimov is gonna take minimum another 2 months

[viscid swift]

no clue

[pale mason]

why not is the better question

[atomic abyss]

why is it relevant to this channel is the best question

[pale mason]

if u had to choose 2 CAs to use in world 13, which would you choose out of: cheshire, roon muse, anchorage

[atomic abyss]

ply is a CL

[pale mason]

i got names mixed mb

[atomic abyss]

but anyways, cheshire - she's anti air specialist

anchorage on boss to tank

[pale mason]

kk ty

[elder grove]

how do I get the points?

[cobalt rapids]

play the arcade minigames

idr which one was more efficient, uh the one where u shoot smth smth

[elder grove]

where

[cobalt rapids]

go to academy then click arcade then start game

[wary timber]

I prefer the white day game

[keen sable]

Free stuff

[keen sable]

There's a lot more build missions left but whether you have 36 or 56 cubes to use

[half skiff]

i saw her, that swhy, sry i guess

[keen sable]

30 gems isn't a lot I suppose. Only 1.5 dock space

[orchid tulip]

Is opsi reset tomorrow or 1st of August?

[tame jungle]

1st

[pale mason]

there's a countdown on the opsi screen too

[tame jungle]

it shows "in 1 day(s)" so i get where the confusion comes from

[keen sable]

3 2 1 nani? 0 nyaa!

[orchid tulip]

it only says "resets in 1 day" it's kinda misleading

[pale mason]

once it gets to the day itself it starts showing the hour even

[sweet delta]

Resets in 0 days

[orchid tulip]

ok thanks everyone

[wintry ember]

ah, you´re right, thanks

[half skiff]

lads, been seeing that said "MGM+1"

what does it mean?

[dusk dirge]

Main Gun Mount +1. Every time the main gun fires, it fires an extra volley.

[worldly pewter]

+1 gun

[cobalt rapids]

obligatory

[worldly pewter]

missing +3

[cobalt rapids]

*this image has not been updated for mgm +5 ships

[half skiff]

ok ye thats pretty fuckin good, where is that written in game

[cobalt rapids]

on the limit break tab

you have to read the scrolling text

but its much more convenient to check the wiki

[worldly pewter]

for the shipyards they are written on the left
the development side

[half skiff]

good point, ty guys!

[knotty dome]

is this a joke or is there a mgm+5 ship now?

[tame jungle]

joke

[cobalt rapids]

sao is mgm6

[worldly pewter]

sword art online ?

[knotty dome]

pew pew pew pew pew pew

[pale mason]

would alsace, fdg, vanguard form a good bb fleet? also does fdg's fate sim matter in this lineup (not gonna have it for a long time still)

[cursive lark]

Is fishing 3rd tenrai worth not focusing pr7?

[forest palm]

that's a good BB fleet, and no FS5 means Fred wants flag

[pale mason]

well do the other 2 bbs want flag or nah

[forest palm]

nope other 2 don't

[cobalt rapids]

good bb fleet for opsi, fdg sim would boost her dmg abit and allow her to offlag and give ur ply buff if u have it to alsace who would benefitt more

[pale mason]

then we chillin nice

[cobalt rapids]

not worth, 2 is enough

[forest palm]

how many prints do you have?

[pale mason]

would nj replace any of the three at all
im not gonna have her mlb for a while but just curious

[cobalt rapids]

drake is a vanguard

[cursive lark]

Like 7 and 0 on the shop

[forest palm]

ya just move to PR7

[cobalt rapids]

nj would replace fdg

[pale mason]

im bad with names mb i meant nj

[cursive lark]

Well I guess I'll just wait tenrai craftable

[pale mason]

for opsi is more bb fleets or more cv fleets recommended?

[cobalt rapids]

usually 1 and 1 is enough when ure rainbow spam

[pale mason]

1 mob, 1 bb, 1 cv?

[cobalt rapids]

yah

[pale mason]

what is rainbow spam lol

[cobalt rapids]

using many rainbow ships basically

[pale mason]

oh i see

i dont have that many, like all of them are bbs lol

if i were to form a 2nd bb fleet, would hood and monarch be ok or are they not good enough to warrant forming another bb fleet

[cobalt rapids]

they are ok, depends what else u got

[pale mason]

marco polo too i guess but she's not fs5 yet

[jade ibex]

for Kitakaze's skill, the ignore armor mod part means it'll always deal normal armor mod?

[pale mason]

but those are my highest tiered ships according to the tierlist xd
after my rainbow ones

[cobalt rapids]

ehh, if u want u can open a thread and post ur dock and we can build ur opsi fleets

[pale mason]

sure i'll do that once my stuff is done autobattling

[cobalt rapids]

ignore armor is just a fancy way of saying that its setting all her armor mods to same value

[spare cave]

Who should I go for pr ? Just got Brest. I can get to 700 for ib, however I can't go a lot further for Sakura and eu

[pale mason]

whats the best way to filter dock for sharing? when i sort by rarity all the bulins show up lol
and also dupe ships are there too

[cobalt rapids]

filter by main, order by lvl
then samething but for vang

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research i recc giving this a read if u havent

[pale mason]

Goalaso OpSi fleetbuilding

[teal magnet]

is Intrepid good for w13 support

[keen sable]

What's w13 support?

[spare cave]

Ok thx

[teal magnet]

don’t one of the worlds have air support or smth

[worldly pewter]

only w15 has a support mechanic

[keen sable]

15. Maybe worry when you clear 14?

[teal magnet]

im just asking if Intrepid is useable for it

thank you

[cursive lark]

Eventually you'll have one of the best ships for support

By the time you can clear ch14

[keen sable]

inb4 langley

[jade ibex]

and which value is that? sorry

[inland shoal]

Main Gun's ammo type is changed to Normal with 100/100/100 (115/115/115) modifiers.

[regal blaze]

i hope last thread for me 15-3/4

[pale mason]

if i have 2 ryusei and 1 junker already, do i need to go for any more of either of them?

[eternal moth]

For timings I'd want at least 3-4 of each

[pale mason]

ok will do that then, thanks
ryusei is from what gear boxes?

[viscid swift]

it isn't

[eternal moth]

2 TBs on Shinano and Haku is pretty common

And then you have your third CV, normally AvP or Implacable, who will need her own

[pale mason]

yeah my cv fleet is looking like haku shinano avp
do i need to go for all of the same? so like 5 of one?

or if i put a homing beacon on i can mix?

[eternal moth]

It depends on the armor type and whether your ships are oathed or not, and the fleet tech you have. You can use https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/ to calculate the timings

[pale mason]

how should the timings work out, AvP ready first with the other 2 ready soon after?

[eternal moth]

AvP second IIRC

[soft raft]

yuh AvP 2nd

[eternal moth]

But they should all be within a second of each other

[pale mason]

there is too much stuff that is going to be subject to change within the next few weeks since my ships are still levelling to 120 so i'll just do the calcs later ig

i'll try to get 4 of each plane and worry about timing later

[eternal moth]

For medium and light armor, giving AvP a BF-109G is common

[loud mason]

Is there some sort of gear tierlist so I know which ones qre viable?

[wispy pendant]

the gear guide shows all the notable gears for each scenario and ranks them, yes

[mellow hornet]

should i focus on pr 6 or 7 bc or pr 6 i have less than 30 prints for each ship

[spice phoenix]

should i invest time to raise brennus?

[stark quiver]

did you do w15?

[mellow hornet]

yeah

[stark quiver]

3 star all?

[mellow hornet]

yes

[stark quiver]

you could just do pr7

[mellow hornet]

i mean i havent heard any super op ships from pr 6 except for maybe kearsage

i got all the good ships pr 5 and bellow

[stark quiver]

[hollow gust]

Hinden , shimato ?

[stark quiver]

i dont see a reason to get shimanto, considering they cleared w15 n all

[forest palm]

can't Sandy do Shimanto's job better, also Hinden isn't much of a highlight

though I don't personally value a utility-less gunboat that highly

[hollow gust]

Pr7 hard carried by nahk

[forest palm]

Napoli is a thing

also PR7 gear is strictly better than PR6 gear

[hollow gust]

Saying Hindenburg isn't much of a highlight but Napoli is

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /equip

[forest palm]

decent damage, good bulk, good utility, ya she's a highlight

[hollow gust]

So same stuff as 5 different ships

[mellow hornet]

which one for pr 7 first or does it not matter right now

[hollow gust]

No since you still need to care about prints

[forest palm]

you'll unlock them all eventually start where ever you like

[mellow hornet]

but which cog research would i care about

[hollow gust]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[mellow hornet]

the ship i mean

[forest palm]

yup PR6 is the weakest season, PR7 is going to have better gear than 5 though, PR4 is still the best to me

[mellow hornet]

pr 4 was goated with agir and haku, all them were great except marco polo

[hollow gust]

[forest palm]

PR4 gear as well

[civic crag]

Where do I find DR beginner missions

[stark quiver]

[keen sable]

Newcomer > Research

[civic crag]

This stuff

[civic crag]

There’s only the easy hard exam thing

[mint flint]

you need to do that first

[keen sable]

bottom right

[viscid swift]

there's a tab on the bottom right of the page

[civic crag]

Ohhhh ok Tysm*

[copper ermine]

if im new and i just got foch meta, is she good?

[viscid swift]

no

[civic crag]

Time to max anchorage

[blissful hamlet]

blue cube research or blue DR face? I'm rich in cubes

[viscid swift]

the latter personally