gameplay-help

[hollow gust]

All the top sub fleets are like single digit performed diff

[late flame]

see the 3 subs i'm using

[sinful escarp]

ohhh i see

[forest palm]

Choose your comp

[stark quiver]

🔦er, ,🏹 🐟

[sinful escarp]

i like how you can tell who they are from those emotes

[stark quiver]

first time en comprehension skills are good

[sinful escarp]

i made en history

[forest palm]

using subs

[sinful escarp]

i like watching torps miss

[hasty night]

Should I do Normal or Hard for the current event?

[forest palm]

Hard

[dawn crater]

Any good mid-late game vanguard tank? My current CAs dies so fast

[forest palm]

Portland is more than enough for a starter till you get stuff like Anchorage

[jaunty vault]

Anchorage/ any CB

[forest palm]

Might want to reconsider your build

[stark quiver]

what ship has the highest hp in game

[jaunty vault]

should be fdg

[forest palm]

Easy way to find out....

[jaunty vault]

yeah

its musashi btw

[sharp socket]

ask mebot he probably knows

[forest palm]

Literally a wiki page you can sort by hp lol

[slow fox]

It IS musashi. Also what Taz said.

[jaunty vault]

mebot do you know

[slow fox]

No

[forest palm]

now a question the wiki page couldn't answer you is what ship has the highest eHP

[jaunty vault]

the wiki page
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships_by_Stats

[jaunty vault]

should be Musashi

[slow fox]

That depends on your model of eHP.

[jaunty vault]

[forest palm]

[slow fox]

In Musashi's case, if we happened to have a ship with Musashi's stats as a vanguard ship, assuming she gets her 30% DmgRed in the front, we are looking at a ship with 160% of Agir's eHP.

This makes her a ship that is proper 2 portlands of eHP.

Without it, however, she sits at a regular 145% , which is a little less than Napoli.

[forest palm]

huh....wild

[sharp socket]

agir is better suited for boss tank right

[slow fox]

:mutsukinod:

[forest palm]

I don't know about better, she's just the best option to take into a boss fight most often, it's nothing so unilateral

[shell willow]

is the ehp sheet public?

[slow fox]

eHP mentoined

[remote yarrow]

It's over at ECGC Tools section and Nagami's website

[forest palm]

A similar case would be Musashi, one of the strongest BBs, can function as a Boss or Mob BB, however since there's flexible options such as Soyuz, and Alsace you could easily move Musashi to mob

[shell willow]

ty

[vale spindle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/tools

[remote yarrow]

samhart

[slow fox]

SLAMHART

[vale spindle]

its true i am 183cm tall

[remote yarrow]

I'm 168

[plain saffron]

Smh should have used https://azurlane.nagami.moe/ehp

[remote yarrow]

I mentioned both

[slow fox]

nyagamon

[shell willow]

i got it from your site first cause i wasnt sure what ecgc was

[remote yarrow]

English Community Guide Compendium

[vale spindle]

its not the 2nd search result that comes up when you search "azur lane guide" in google or anything

[shell willow]

[sweet delta]

is it the 1st?

[vale spindle]

its also not the 1st search result that comes up when you search "azur lane ecgc"

[remote yarrow]

It's the first

[vale spindle]

we love reddit we love reddit we love reddit

[remote yarrow]

Light mode

[shell willow]

fair enough

[remote yarrow]

You are the 1st in my browser

Samheart > Reddit

[vale spindle]

did you incognito mode

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[vale spindle]

thats why

[remote yarrow]

oh

[sweet delta]

#technology

[vale spindle]

[slow fox]

#trophy-room

[jaunty vault]

peak gph

[remote yarrow]

It sure is

[strange sphinx]

hmmm Anchorage Fs5 is good right

[remote yarrow]

It's decent

[atomic abyss]

Not the highest priority for FS in PR4, but yes

[remote yarrow]

Would still Fs5 for her face researches to get removed from the pool

[strange sphinx]

well still Farming for agir, IB exp vanguard

[atomic abyss]

Prio for FS5 shd be AvP
Unless you already have impla

[strange sphinx]

oh well sbe is now Fs5 so I'm asking she is good

[strange sphinx]

Oh well I have implacable so prioritizing agir

I guess

[inland shoal]

I mean you can coin AvP anyway unlike Ägir

[strange sphinx]

hmmm is Plymouth is the priority in PR 5 or harbin?

[atomic abyss]

Plymouth without question

[strange sphinx]

hmm. question, does agir have fs and if have, does she need?

[atomic abyss]

She does not

[remote yarrow]

No and she probably won't need one imo

[atomic abyss]

Only Hakuryuu, FdG, Drake and Azuma do

[strange sphinx]

hmmmmm should I straight research hakuryuu after agir then

[inland shoal]

Sure, just finish PR4

[strange sphinx]

sigh, 1 down, 4 to go

[atomic abyss]

Haku after Agir
Agir doesn't need D30 to cook, so she's functional earlier
Haku needs 30

[strange sphinx]

Last question, what is the the FS of Haku?

[atomic abyss]

Basically gives her plane barrage a far bigger oomph

I think about 20% increase in damage

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hakuryuu

[untold trout]

Is it worth it to max lmb kron? I have enough bulins to do it

[atomic abyss]

Depends on your other URs

[untold trout]

As of rn I have nj, shinanno, vanguard, mog, Alsace and kron, all are maxed except vanguard and kron

[atomic abyss]

Vanguard should be way higher priority

Than Kron

[remote yarrow]

nvm I'm en

[crimson glacier]

kronk is the least value UR

[untold trout]

Rodger that, to vanguard the bulins shall go

[atomic abyss]

Wouldn't Shima be

[crimson glacier]

i guess they can have a happy tie

[untold trout]

Btw, while I'm here, I recently got fredrich de grober, she worth it?

[crimson glacier]

when she gets to max stars she is very very strong

[untold trout]

Noted

Currently have her at 4, so it'll probably be awhile before that happens

[remote yarrow]

Well it will take you like 36 days to get her to Dev 30 if you coin 10BPs per day considering the bps from catchup ofc

[flint arrow]

anyone mind sharing fleet for afk 1-shot wichita

[atomic abyss]

Do we even have 1 yet? Anyways best fleet was

Kearsarge, Yk2, Impla
Harbin/Plymouth, Sirius, Helena

HVARs for the entire backline

[flint arrow]

sirius? 😮

[atomic abyss]

Sirius because she still buffs carriers even after dying unlike Kazagumo

She's a mainstay in opsi/meta CV comps

[untold trout]

How good is agir? She's the current ship I'm working on

[atomic abyss]

As of now, the best tank in the game

[untold trout]

🙂

[atomic abyss]

Although Napoli seems she might dethrone her

[flint arrow]

YK2 is yorktown II?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[untold trout]

Well, unfortunately I can't work on Napoli ATM, so after agir is probably Hindenburg, mostly just cause I want her, she good too?

[rugged iris]

Hey does Bremerton still drop from B3 in the war archives event or does she only from beating D3 60 times?

[flint arrow]

ok will try that

even if its just 2 shot will be better

[atomic abyss]

Hindenburg is great too
One of the best frontline DPS in the game

[flint arrow]

my shit takes 3 😡

[rugged iris]

Gotcha

[flint arrow]

but i know nothing about fleet comps so i used this

[atomic abyss]

Do take note of the gearing too

You'll want HVAR Hellcats, lacking which BF109Gs

[flint arrow]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

If you only have 1 HVAR, prioritise it on Kearsarge

Ofc this assumes Dev 30 Kearsarge

If you don't have any one of those ships maxed, you might be better off going triple BB

[steady beacon]

If you don't mind the read #gameplay-help message (the disclaimer still applies )
There is no 100% consistent fleet as yet, but provided you can put one of the given recommendations together, should be probabilistic, at least

[peak crater]

Who should be using fire control table in the fleet: Vanguard, Soyuz and Alsace?

[jaunty vault]

i blame ender for not having the wichitaM guide pinged

[steady beacon]

Pre sure we're set on Soy, unless Yahoo found something else since
(This, of course, assuming everyone is carrying radars of some kind)

[undone plover]

Tempted to say put table on soyuz since she has lower accuracy

Nvm the BB expert answered

[sharp socket]

whats the light version of 457

[jaunty vault]

why the fuck does this guide have 30 pages of text

[crimson glacier]

there isnt

[steady beacon]

Heresy. BB expert?
Don't slander my CVs like that

[slow fox]

It looks like it was written in LaTeX, too

[jaunty vault]

pilica, not to be rude but no one's reading allat

[slow fox]

I'LL read allat

[reef flume]

Do like me: use it on your BB with slower reload. Otherwise like many others: on your stronger BB

[jaunty vault]

youre no one

[reef flume]

Exactly. I'm two

[steady beacon]

Fortunately, some people have already proven you wrong
But that's why I appended the disclaimer, obviously...
But I'm also not going to patronise the reader by dumbing it down or failing to explain everything in full
Despite EN's reputation, I do firmly believe some people do have the capacity to read

[sharp socket]

i gave it to alsace so she can shoot before soyuz

[steady beacon]

Glad someone can appreciate it

[sharp socket]

im pretty sure the AFCT also made me able to 2shot michita which is amazing

[jaunty vault]

good for you

[steady beacon]

AFCT truly incredible piece of equipment

[split umbra]

Hi anyone free can take a look at my dock and help to recommend fleets for operation siren?

[jaunty vault]

be a true gpt and give me tldr later

[sharp socket]

create a thread sorted by level leaving out commons and rares

[jaunty vault]

there's a fleet guide for opsi you can read by user:samheart564 in his guide compendium you can access by doing /guide in bot spam

[peak crater]

So it would be best on Soyuz I will do that then.

[slow fox]

refer to Figure 1
in Appendix A.3
Acknowledgements

he is academicposting

[jaunty vault]

a true scholar

[steady beacon]

[split umbra]

Help for fleet recommendation for operation siren

[slow fox]

OVERVIEW

1: Stats and Skills - increasing damage with HP decrease, chains, and a nuke
2: Wichita META has a distinct movement pattern that uses her attacks
3: The guide analyzes Wichita's stats compared to other META characters and highlights the challenges she presents, specifically in regard to vanguard pressure.

FLEET COMPOSITION

YIIIK Helena, YkII/Kear/Imp/Sirius/Helena/Plym
French Fries, Alsc/YkII/Kear/Plym/Helena/Agir and variety
Bach, Kear/BisII/Alsc/Harb/Helena/Plym
YES we KAN, YkII/Kear/Shangri-La

Additional remarks:

YIIIK Helena is a 3-strike CV buffer fleet
French Fries also relies on Helena, for a 3/4 or 4bb/3cv cycle option.
Bach has a high variance with RNG, and may be more reliable with higher fleet tech or +13 in order to minimize required Helena procs
YES we KAN is a 4-strike CV fleet relies on Shangri-La's reload buff, and Helena procs, to dish out damage.

Manual control allows replacement of eHP aux with damage aux to further augment the damage of your fleet.

[pale niche]

When did Haku get Fate Sim?

[jaunty vault]

a few months ago

[flint arrow]

man it takes way too long to finish meta ships like tf? i must be doing something wrong cuz it took me like 3 months of daily opsi to finish ark royal meta

[plain saffron]

Only 1 month to get all 5 copy

[jaunty vault]

if arkM took you three months then yoh were just lazy

[flint arrow]

isnt it 70 days at the earliest

[crimson glacier]

what

[slow fox]

Honestly I hate it too.

[flint arrow]

1k per day for 70k

[crimson glacier]

last copy is 25k

[plain saffron]

Last copy at 25k

And for skill exp you need to farm opsi using them preferably in mob fleet and go farm hidden or something until exp for that day is maxed

[jaunty vault]

last copy on 25k

[plain saffron]

Or just exp book it and done in 1 day

[flint arrow]

not worth going for 70k?

[crimson glacier]

how is worth relevant

its free resources, all you spend is time

[plain saffron]

You kinda do it daily so just finish it
Unless you mean dossier, if you want to rush other ship, switch. Else just keep doing it

It's like 5 minutes fight after you done your opsi daily

[flint arrow]

fair

[plain saffron]

Need that cog chips

[steady beacon]

Next time, maybe I'll enlist your help with condensing it

[slow fox]

Nah, I think it's fine. People read what they want to read - if they're curious about it. More often than not, if you have all the information there, people will grab what they need and call it a day.

Nuance is important, and the guide provides just that.

[plain saffron]

I'm too lazy to read can you tldr it more

[slow fox]

Wichita META fight guide

That's the tldr. I told GPT to summarize it using four words.

[sharp socket]

smack with light gun

[plain saffron]

I understand now, thanks

[steady beacon]

[jaunty vault]

very helpful

[silent latch]

is shinano good

[uneven oyster]

Should i limit break alsace mogador or vanguard next

[jaunty vault]

shinano is good

[silent latch]

what abt UR shimikaze

[jaunty vault]

UR shimikaxe is good but UR IJN shinano is higher priority

[silent latch]

ok

[fossil shard]

Dont have Yorktown 2, kearsarge or Plymouth. Maybe come back next year

[jaunty vault]

id do alsace but it also depends on what other UR BBs you have

[jaunty vault]

ender

atleast read that before pinning it

[atomic abyss]

I did

[steady beacon]

LMAOOOOOO

[atomic abyss]

It's for michita no?

[steady beacon]

At least if there are any questions, they'll now bug Mebot instead

[atomic abyss]

Anyways back to brainstorming my way to clear 13-4H

[jaunty vault]

yeah but its practically useless

[atomic abyss]

I'll make it into a command later

[jaunty vault]

id do vanguard

[atomic abyss]

If I remember

[jaunty vault]

you can pin this instead
#gameplay-help message

[steady beacon]

No, no, I prefer it this way

[fading plinth]

hi is any of the event ships worth it

[late flame]

dang. 30 pages

[elfin thunder]

not really, collection only

[fading plinth]

oh ok

[jaunty vault]

event ships can be good depending on your mindset

event ships may be worth it depending on your mindset

but worth is subjective

[hallow iron]

When is the jp anni?I will have 4 bullins with next month pass but might finish them all to mlb vanguard

[jaunty vault]

mid September

EN anni is mid august

which is soon™️

[hallow iron]

Oo isn't that next month

[jaunty vault]

yes

[hallow iron]

New UR damnn hype, ig i hold off mlb vanguard

[jaunty vault]

i can help you

EN anni most likely will not be a UR

[atomic abyss]

EN Anni as no new UR

[worldly pewter]

if u mlb vanguard u will be missing 1 bulin most likely for the jp anni contruction ship

[atomic abyss]

JP Anni is the one with new URs

[hallow iron]

Oo ic

[hallow iron]

Hmm sounds like that's not too much wait time, I will just mlb vanguard then

Thanks

[jaunty vault]

you're welcome 😁

[elfin thunder]

yeah im in a similar situation but vanguard is worth it so MLB'd her already

[sly raven]

is AVP worth 125?

[steady beacon]

Sure

[jaunty vault]

if you're using her

[sly raven]

well i dont have other boss fleet CV materials

[jaunty vault]

she's still used in endgame fleets

[steady beacon]

Even if you can't use her to her full potential now, it's still fine to 125 her since there will come a point when you can

[light trail]

wait does SP really cost no oil?

[sharp socket]

do i mlb shinano, vanguard or mog (1lb) first, i have 2+6 purin

[steady beacon]

That should be in error

[light trail]

there's also no cost limit display so idk

[steady beacon]

Ye, I'm currently doing SP myself
There's no oil cap there it seems

[sharp socket]

SP for me costs 587 oil because im using 2 full fleets

[worldly pewter]

nah it is the same as alway

[light trail]

okok

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhhhh
Which other rainbows do you currently have

[jaunty vault]

sp stages never had oil cap

[worldly pewter]

1:1 1:1
or 2:1 1:1

[steady beacon]

SP in major events has had oil cap for a while now, hasn't it?

[steady beacon]

But this event has been a little bit weird, with plenty of things missing
Like EX had (still has?) no leaderboard, for example

[dusk maple]

nothing new, happened many times before when there were back-to-back events

[steady beacon]

OK, I'd MLB Vanguard first then
Thereafter Shinano, but you might also want to hold first for September... it's your choice, though

[elfin thunder]

they are both great choices but go with what will benefit you more in short term. you dont have haku done so id probably do vanguard

[steady beacon]

Oh, this isn't even the first time
Classic AL

[worldly pewter]

he has enough for both of them though

[light trail]

yeah but there's gonna be one (or two?) new URs in september

[sharp socket]

alr vanguard it is

[worldly pewter]

if u have 8 bulins why not just mlb 2 ships ?

[light trail]

newer ships are often stronger (powercreep is real)

UR bulins take time to get too

[atomic abyss]

Dammit almost s clear for 13-4H on lethal
Unzen died at the last second

[sharp socket]

im thinking about what id actually need next, which is shinano

need stronger CV for w13h

[worldly pewter]

didn't u say u had 8 bulins or am i tripping ?

[atomic abyss]

Well then again Soyuz was almost dead so uh

[sharp socket]

also IJN tech for haku

[atomic abyss]

Uwu

[dusk maple]

your backline has like no fighters, shina 2 haku 3

[steady beacon]

[atomic abyss]

I mean I don't have Impla or Yk2

So what else am I supposed to go with?

[dusk maple]

i used centaur and independence

albion, indomi maybe

[atomic abyss]

Indomie table indeed

[sharp socket]

yez but september

[worldly pewter]

september is in 2 months

[atomic abyss]

More like a month

[worldly pewter]

no 2

[atomic abyss]

But then again the event is most likely not start of the month so

[worldly pewter]

august september is 2 resets

[atomic abyss]

Anni is end sep

[sharp socket]

which anni is that

[atomic abyss]

JP

[steady beacon]

Eh, more likely middle right

[dusk maple]

maybe putting wyverns on haku & shinano can help

[atomic abyss]

EN is mid aug

They already have wyvern + breguet

[steady beacon]

[atomic abyss]

Nothing short of rainbow trashcans will save this fleet

Unless I move to +13 some gear

[sharp socket]

somehow i managed to get agir d30 before fdg d30 which is kinda funny since i built fdg > avp > agir

[worldly pewter]

is it on manual ?

[atomic abyss]

Auto for now

This was more a test of concept

[worldly pewter]

[steady beacon]

Is Soy carrying 457

[atomic abyss]

Looks like I'm manualling for a while

457+AFCT

[worldly pewter]

u did something wrong somewhere in between

[atomic abyss]

Nano has the scuffed loadout currently to speed her up
Probably should scuff Haku's

[steady beacon]

Wdym by scuffed loadout

Suisei 12As?

[atomic abyss]

To spread the timings yeah, 12As

[dusk maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811611113556410388/1162039222530756688/Screenshot_20231012-201825.png?ex=66a5b19c&is=66a4601c&hm=1297c476900aa98c1fb3ecba9bb653fd182d17f1cc3ee5af28cc0665d1faab6c& found it, this is what i used for clearing 13-4H boss on lethal. BBs just kill faster.

[worldly pewter]

musasi

[steady beacon]

Can't you just tamper with the fighter and TB though
Like uh
Idk
VF-17/Helldiver/Breguet on one
Pancake/Helldiver/Wyvern on the other

[worldly pewter]

can u use 2 AA carries with anchorage ?

[steady beacon]

Feels like sabotaging the DB is a bit extreme

[worldly pewter]

like sandy and shimanto

[atomic abyss]

I could try

Not that this tells the whole picture

[steady beacon]

Wait uh
Ignore my second rec
You have one Tenrai right... that obviously goes on Haku

[atomic abyss]

I just got the second one yesterday

[steady beacon]

Then carry both

[atomic abyss]

So I'm finally closing the chapter on PR4

[sharp socket]

is harbin or shimanto the PR AA carry i forgot

[atomic abyss]

Shimanto

[sharp socket]

cant catchup that one

is cheshire AA carry?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[worldly pewter]

general print her when u need

[atomic abyss]

I could go double wyvern too but uh
I feel the timing gets too close

[dusk maple]

you don't need to stagger backline in w13

[sharp socket]

i guess my catchup order will be brest > ply > fdg (protocore) > cheshire (protocore)

[atomic abyss]

I was told to stagger about 12h ago

Cos my first fleet died

[steady beacon]

Are you at least
Killing Nagato fast

[atomic abyss]

I honestly can't tell
The screen is covered in too much shit

But Soyuz was dying from planes as far as I'm aware

[steady beacon]

Because if you can achieve that, then staggering doesn't really change much
Since that's the only potential danger you want something timed to kill before she shells and burns your flag BB

[atomic abyss]

The one dying from BB is the Alsace on mobs

[steady beacon]

This isn't the mess of W14 boss where there are like four waves of ridiculously durable mobs before the boss shows up

[atomic abyss]

Let's try this again

[dusk maple]

try this backline? nj flagship with 457, musashi with twin 410, aquila with dual fighter + wyvern. guam/harbin/sandy in front.

[atomic abyss]

I have none of those backliners

Well NJ I have but not mlb

[light trail]

after l'audacieux, i can just grab whatever i want from the shop right? no recommended prio apart from cog arrays?

do i roughly follow this then? was asking bc this event specifically didnt have one in the pinned message, tho it is pretty generic

[steady beacon]

Redirect to pins, but it hasn't even been updated yet

[late flame]

pretty much yes, since this event shop* has PR/DR 7 prints

[tame jungle]

Yep same priority, only the build tickets and gear aren’t there, and the ship is audi instead

[atomic abyss]

Anyways these were the fleets

I literally have no idea what other DD to use

The lack of Laff2 curses me daily

[steady beacon]

I used Ingraham, now I remember
Although I don't think Yuudachi necessarily sabotages your mob fleet in any way

[atomic abyss]

I mean it was either poi or shima

[zinc hornet]

can someone explain "not enough slots" to me pls

[steady beacon]

It's a desync issue, relog

[zinc hornet]

ah okay

[atomic abyss]

Not enough slots is a desync issue, not enough dock slots is the issue

[late flame]

you'd want air superiority though

[atomic abyss]

I have superiority ye

[late flame]

i think i used allen as my dd back then hmm

[steady beacon]

Upon checking, I lived up to the charge of "Ryza simp"
My mob fleet was Patricia/Uni/Klaudia/Noshiro/Ingraham/Ryza
The boss fleet was appropriately stacked, though... Yorktown/NJ/Implac/Anch/Shima/Shima
(By which I mean Shimakaze and Shimanto, ofc)

[atomic abyss]

Not having subs hurts like hell tbh

[steady beacon]

Fair

[zinc hornet]

yep, dock full popup when i logged back in

[atomic abyss]

Extremely fast

Girl vanishes almost instantly

[steady beacon]

[atomic abyss]

Made Haku faster and nano slower

[steady beacon]

Good stuff

[atomic abyss]

That seemed to have made the difference

Turns about 4 wyverns are better than 3

I'm not exactly sure if Guam is doing her job properly admittedly

Haku almost died due to bad plane rng but that seems to be it

[worldly pewter]

can u explain to me the cat positioning choice ?

[atomic abyss]

I actually just randomly slapped the cats

[worldly pewter]

[sharp socket]

how does triple 152 DP compare to 155 kai for boat killing

[frank pulsar]

seattle gun? it shld be worse afaik

*im assuming you meant interception when you said boat killing

[sharp socket]

i just want to put it on jda main gun

[soft raft]

Yup Seattle gun

[sharp socket]

so i dont need to craft 4 155 kais

[frank pulsar]

its better if youre using as main gun

[atomic abyss]

Not like jda gunnery is gonna do much anyways

[sharp socket]

what about triple 152 mk25

[atomic abyss]

It was even smoother second time
Soyuz got to half HP only

Again not sure what Guam is doing other than tanking but

[sharp socket]

theres many options but i dont know which is 2nd best

[atomic abyss]

If it works it works

[hollow sail]

you should only need 2

[frank pulsar]

it about as good as a purple gun as a main gun

[sharp socket]

alright then i wont bother with it

[frank pulsar]

triple 155 kai, chappy gun and seattle gun are the only cl guns you need if you can't afford ply guns

[steady beacon]

I mean, is Guam not shooting down planes?

[atomic abyss]

I would assume she is

[frank pulsar]

for intercept gun regular 155 works (155 kai better for w14 and w15)

[atomic abyss]

But sandy seems to be doing way more plane damage so hard to tell

[sharp socket]

i have 3 currently for soyuz alsace fdg for w14

[steady beacon]

Uh, might that just be because of the very weird way AA damage is credited

[atomic abyss]

I am using Sextuple on her and Sandy so

[frank pulsar]

sandy shld be better than guam in aa and dmg, but guam kinda underperforming yea on that screen

[sharp socket]

i could use a cv like indep over a bb in boss fleet but i dont know if that will be better or worse

[atomic abyss]

In campaign past w13
It's pretty much BB+2CV everywhere

[hollow sail]

not too surprised at those guam stats tbh

[atomic abyss]

Previous run was a bit more flattering for Guam
But Haku almost kicked the bucket

[frank pulsar]

she pretty good pick imho for both boss and mob
did you already post your fleets somewhere that i can take a look at

[frank pulsar]

yea i kinda dropped haku past 15-2, other cv like indep were producing better results for me

[atomic abyss]

I don't got Yk2 and Impla so

Please give us another UR Essex class in December

[frank pulsar]

both of them are in my support fleet lol, i think i used uni percy indep and klaudia for cvs

i went for 121 strat so thats why i used percy

[sharp socket]

yes its in a thread but i can post it here

[strange sphinx]

Pray Lexington II

[frank pulsar]

ill dig it up

[sharp socket]

for some reason i cant copy the thread link

[strange sphinx]

[atomic abyss]

As long as it's not another BB

Tho then again, another Iowa would be fine

Any UR US BB will likely shine in w15 cos they're naturally tankier in the face of planes

[sharp socket]

i just bumped it

[steady beacon]

No, it's more uh
The endscreen shares out AA damage according to AA stat or something

So because Sandy has like 5/4 Guam's AA stat-ish, she gets greater endscreen credit
Even though iirc Guam's actual AA output is supposed to exceed Sandy's
(Although I cannot remember if the aug was meant to change that)

[hollow sail]

sandy has the best AA now

well, only if she uses shimanto gun actually

tbh not sure if all AA calcs are up to date on the chart yet

[steady beacon]

Ah OK was going to ask that lol
Neato

[frank pulsar]

i don't think she needs shimanto gun to pull ahead of guam in aa

[steady beacon]

Are there calcs on this anywhere

[frank pulsar]

mebot has an aa calc iirc, but idk where it is

[calm rose]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rb_uXVmDnK2YKe-0YRTrf3VUcQi8mKwEMYKCBFmVXCc/edit?gid=0#gid=0 this one?

is this updated for sandy aug?

[hollow sail]

i think it is because values were different for sandy before

[sharp socket]

is it rude to ask for credentials from someone before taking their advice

[plain saffron]

idk man giving my credentials to stranger sounds dangerous

[patent pivot]

if they dont have a PhD from AL nerd university probably shouldnt trust them

[sharp socket]

as in what stage theyve cleared

[hollow sail]

as you can see it looked a bit different

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367307557796053002/1217669289822261340/image.png?ex=66a5b4e5&is=66a46365&hm=13c25382a02ae42cc8229bdbc912fddd7668ea261aa6df06a0a9de58fae6b3fe&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[civic crag]

Yo how do I clear this event shop do I just have to grind a lot

[patent pivot]

you can clear the lategame while being a complete dumbass

[hollow sail]

but this chart is also considering personal AA only

[frank pulsar]

if you phrase it well i think it fine

[plain saffron]

nobody clear the shop, only buy useful items

[sinful elk]

Chat is Daisen gun works good?

[plain saffron]

unless you're leaderboard chaser

[frank pulsar]

i think it just poverty 457 iirc, idr the consensus

[sharp socket]

im asking this because my friends and guild are giving me suspicious advice for gear for w14

[frank pulsar]

like what

[civic crag]

Ok fair enough

[sinful elk]

That sound goods to be since i am poor af

[hollow sail]

daisen gun mostly for musashi only

[civic crag]

Just get all rainbow

[hard fractal]

is this lv2 sec gun intentional or typo

[civic crag]

No need optimise

[steady beacon]

Word

[plain saffron]

high lvl "gun" = more dmg

[hollow sail]

intentional

[steady beacon]

No, it really is Level 2 lol

[plain saffron]

i guess you can treat it like +1 to +10

[hard fractal]

thats wee bit odd

[frank pulsar]

full rainbow will likely fail in w14 lmao

[civic crag]

Time to do my rookie missions so I can skip anchorage xp grind

[civic crag]

Nah, I’d win

[plain saffron]

more flavour text

like (dmg scale with skill lvl) should already make you know idk why there's Lv. n instead. i guess because they word is as a gun?

[civic crag]

Btw for y’all who have maxed ägirs how long did it take to reach level 30

[inland shoal]

If I'm not mistaken, aug would put her at 3.4k

[frank pulsar]

like 3, 4 months? idr it been so long

[plain saffron]

why my triple UR BB fleet is dying

[civic crag]

I saw this at first and not realising the rest were all main fleet ships thought I had been scammed by retrofitting sandiego

[civic crag]

Well good to have unicorn around

[frank pulsar]

theyre all vanguards wdym

[plain saffron]

uhh nobody is main fleet there

[civic crag]

What the fuck

[plain saffron]

but she's not UR

[sharp socket]

i just got her to dev30 and ive been playing for over 5 months, but ive also been bad at reading and dumb for much of that time

[civic crag]

Wait I’m acoustic mb

[civic crag]

I’m stuck at 24 it’s actually so over

[plain saffron]

4 months is kinda normal to done entire season

[terse gust]

is strasbourg worth getting? ( for gameplay purpose)

[frank pulsar]

it normal though if youre not a cuber

[civic crag]

What’s cuber

[plain saffron]

using cube on research

[civic crag]

Bro the problem isn’t resources is that agir isn’t showing her bratty ahh on my research page

[frank pulsar]

the people who have nothing better to do with cube other than spend on research

[plain saffron]

stand back i'm cubing. i'm going to cube

[civic crag]

Like agir take all my cubes I just wanna max u out

[frank pulsar]

if you focused pr4 already then it is what it is

[plain saffron]

then choose correct research

[civic crag]

I alr finished the catch up

[sharp socket]

its fine just wait faster

[frank pulsar]

catchup and research focus is different

[plain saffron]

catch up is not focus

[civic crag]

Huh

[plain saffron]

focus guarantee at least 3 of 5 research is from selected season

[civic crag]

I click research focus and it brings me to the select ship thing

So how do I focus

[plain saffron]

top one

[frank pulsar]

i kinda cant login rn
anyone here can login to show?

[sinful elk]

Is Indomitable a good cv that can works well in w14

[civic crag]

Oh shit I’m acoustic

Consider implacable

[sinful elk]

Don't have her

[frank pulsar]

indomie is pretty decent option for w14, you'd ideally use someone else though

[sinful elk]

Like who?

[frank pulsar]

idk who you have
if you want to make thread and post dock

[sinful elk]

[civic crag]

Enterprise good?

[frank pulsar]

yes

[civic crag]

Nice

[civic crag]

Unicorn

[frank pulsar]

you can slot theseus in mob i guess
so smth like bb + uni + theseus, and bb + indep + enty for boss
if you got some good bb then 2 bb + 1 cv works too

[sinful elk]

I was planning to go 3 BBs in boss fleet since I think nj alsace and hood can finish it quick

[frank pulsar]

uh, doing that will prob make you lose air supremacy
try not to do that, also cv is just better than bb for doing area dmg

[sinful elk]

[hollow sail]

uni and volga is a really safe pick that will still work, and they're already leveled. the other gold CVs you have are also reasonable options, personally i used sara and i like using her for the constant stream of damage

[frank pulsar]

yea sara was nice when i tried her for w14

[sinful elk]

Uhh idk why but i felt my sara kinda slow

Are the gears on her correct?

[hollow sail]

she shouldn't really be slow, with her base stat + aug she has pretty high reload stat

[sinful elk]

[crimson glacier]

sara is slower than average carrier

[steady beacon]

Correct, but the planes do have relatively slow cooldown, all things considered, so she will probably lag behind others

It's just a function of her uncommon loadout, as opposed to her RLD stat

[sinful elk]

Sometime i felt her dmg is not enough but sometime her dmg just straight up 80k+

[steady beacon]

Bomb RNG

[sinful elk]

[crimson glacier]

and if things die before her stuff hits

[hollow sail]

she still has a fairly potent mini-airstrike every 10s so even if she has some slow planes offsetting her high reload, she's still a good pick (and with the enemy density her gun shots should also hit stuff pretty often)

[sinful elk]

Should i get the reload aux for her

[crimson glacier]

no

[atomic abyss]

No it wouldn't help

[steady beacon]

It doesn't speed her up by enough to notice substantially
It is meant more for fine-tuning syncs

[atomic abyss]

Her slow airstrikes are a consequence of her loadout

That's about it, nothing more or critical to it

[sinful elk]

[crimson glacier]

dps is more important than reload speed

[sinful elk]

Gotta test her in enforcer fights

[blazing shale]

Do we know the best fleets & loadouts for Nakhimov yet?

[crimson glacier]

why bother with something thats garbage for atleast a month

[atomic abyss]

Theoretically maybe
Practically no

Because the question is really who is the best slower to use with her

[steady beacon]

We have ideas, at least
Do we "know" they're necessarily the best in every scenario? No

[crimson glacier]

like its likely that we get JP anniv before nak d30

[atomic abyss]

Soyuz, Chkalov, Voroshilov?

Until we get our answer by using them, hard to say

I personally will likely use her with Soyuz

[steady beacon]

All are viable
The question is where and when, at this point
And who else fits in for each setup

[atomic abyss]

Yep
For all we know we get another Russian ship that might fit with her even better at some point during the next 2-3 months

Not impossible given the literal spam of French events we've been having

[steady beacon]

True enough

[sinful elk]

Btw is there a new Eagle ship with the mech rigging like Guam coming?

[steady beacon]

Also, I'm endlessly concerned about the cooldown problem ngl
La-9 is wonderful, but that slow speed gives me endless worries in practice

[blissful hamlet]

should I +13 battle tracto max for my vanguard? no they're not dying

[atomic abyss]

Yeah that's my issue honestly

[frank pulsar]

idr the last time ive seen someone use a battle tracto, prob not

[steady beacon]

Are you doing some Mog shenanigans serenity

If not, then there are like a hundred auxes that go in front, priority-wise

[atomic abyss]

Dude, literally all servers are on the same pace
We don't have future sight
If the streams don't have it, you won't know, we won't know

[blissful hamlet]

Making sure laffey2 get mvp

[atomic abyss]

You can probably assume Alaska would look similar to Guam if she was released
But that's about it

[sinful elk]

[atomic abyss]

It's like asking us, who's the next UR

[blissful hamlet]

Also I already +13 more than enough hp aux so i don't see any good use of my aux plate

[frank pulsar]

surely itll be the long awaited yamato

[atomic abyss]

I just don't want another UR BB...

[blissful hamlet]

Speculation

[atomic abyss]

Then again I don't think the Japanese have much in the way of carriers

[steady beacon]

Amagi Ni

[sinful elk]

Is it bad of me to have 1k2 eagle tech without any other faction PR ships

[frank pulsar]

nah

[steady beacon]

Did you already +13 your second AFCT?

[atomic abyss]

Weren't you literally complaining a few weeks ago that you had not enough eagle tech

[frank pulsar]

uss tech most common so it normal

[atomic abyss]

Eagle tech is perfectly normal to have a lot of
Most campaign drop ships are eagle or sakura

Or well royal
Common Ironblood L

[sinful elk]

I pulled like 5 sr eagle ships in alsace event

[blissful hamlet]

Yes

It's pvp equip so of course

[steady beacon]

Raise your Juneau to Level 125 now
Enough Rudders at +13?
Also like PvP speed auxes?
Cursed things to talk about in gph, but anyway

[blissful hamlet]

I have some +13 rudders yes

[sinful elk]

Also are two of them good to use?

[blissful hamlet]

Only san Fransisco

[frank pulsar]

san fran yes, ingraham not so much
afaik shes a niche pick

[atomic abyss]

ingra has her uses, but more sanfran

[sinful elk]

[steady beacon]

Ngl, even if you BTM to +13, is that actually going to help Laffey MVP?
Why do you even want Laffey to MVP?

[pearl mulch]

Any good Odin teams for Opsi?

[atomic abyss]

depends on what you have as always
odin doesn't bring anything special for opsi

could just plop her on mob

[sturdy cobalt]

Is there an up to date tier list?

I haven't played in a while and was wondering who was good still

[atomic abyss]

well most up to date is as of june but yeah

https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home

[sturdy cobalt]

Ok figured it was that still

[pearl mulch]

then I’ll do that, thanks

[silk helm]

is this okay? using her w alsace w the same gun

[atomic abyss]

vanny does not need the hpfcr

she already fires too fast

[steady beacon]

Which boss is this, though

[hallow iron]

If she doesn't have hpfcr, will she fire before alsace first nuke

[atomic abyss]

not her preload obviously

but yes

vanny has naturally higher reload, so she always fires first if everyone has the same gun

[hallow iron]

Even if alsace have hpfcr also?

[atomic abyss]

why are you giving her hpfcr too is the real question

[hallow iron]

I follow the tier list gear guide

[atomic abyss]

as in this?

don't follow it lmao

[hallow iron]

Yes

[sinful elk]

Did i just got fucking scammed again

[atomic abyss]

it's not wrong but it ignores a lot of things like context

up to down isn't correct

[plain saffron]

it's not wrong if you read the description

[steady beacon]

Ngl, as a matter of principle, it's either all radars on or all radars off when it comes to single-target bossing
If you're mixing, you typically have something specific in mind (and often will have to mix guns as well)
And it's much harder to tweak

[atomic abyss]

for example if you actually read the damn thing

you would know things are not as simple as they seem

it is absolutely not, "top gear is best"

[inland shoal]

I read the descriptions and then put all the top options, good to know I'm doing it right

[sturdy cobalt]

Is this fine?

[sinful elk]

Nah i place the afct thing on her its good right

[plain saffron]

depends on timing

[atomic abyss]

don't use that main gun it's not gonna serve your purposes

[sturdy cobalt]

Ok

[inland shoal]

Hmm ACFT I'd usually put on the ships that do the dmg rather than the bbuffer

[atomic abyss]

460 is too slow in most cases to be of any use

[hallow iron]

I did read it, but as a nub, it hards to understand what is ship with low hit rate

[atomic abyss]

so just use double shells on everyone

[sturdy cobalt]

Who use that gun on? If anyone

[sinful elk]

Aint Alsace has good shelling dmg tho

[atomic abyss]

honestly? no one, it's a very niche gun

[sturdy cobalt]

Ok

[inland shoal]

BBs for example
If the enemy has respectable eva anyway

[hallow iron]

My alsace does most dmg, I put table on her and planning to put vanguard with hpfcr

[atomic abyss]

if you do that, then it's fine

[inland shoal]

You said "her" and the talk was about Vanny

[sinful elk]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

as in, everyone has the fcr

[sinful elk]

Also Vanny or Shinano whom i should mlb first

[atomic abyss]

depends on your other URs

[inland shoal]

Depends on who else you got

[sinful elk]

mog

[sharp socket]

is getting 4-strike on michita only doable with max tech and cats

[inland shoal]

Got a strong BB fleet and your CV fleet is Haku and Impla? Go for Nano
Missing a 3rd UR BB? Go for Vanny (probably)

[hallow iron]

Btw if I do this, my fdg can use both shell or need hpfcr too?

[inland shoal]

No, it's pretty much not possible to do reliably at all (without manual)

[sharp socket]

actually it seems like it isnt even doable ill just not bother

[frank pulsar]

if one ship uses afct/hsfcr, all the other ships should use it
*assuming single target bossing

[sinful elk]

Hmm I just need the one that helps my fleet bust huge dmg on enforcers

[sturdy cobalt]

Why does happiness exist

[tranquil saffron]

I pretty much only use Helena for my opsi BB fleet, are either of these better than a toolkit for her?

[south sequoia]

Ask the devs

It just does

[sturdy cobalt]

It's pain

[inland shoal]

For philosophical questions pls go to off topic

[south sequoia]

#game-feedback

[sharp socket]

it wont be pain if you do dorm swapping

[frank pulsar]

ascension box is better than toolkit yea

[sturdy cobalt]

I do but still pain

[south sequoia]

I think they mean the mood system

[sturdy cobalt]

^^

[sharp socket]

youll spend more oil than you can get with dorm swapping

[sturdy cobalt]

My dude I have like 400k oil

[south sequoia]

But yeah we're derailing the channel, if you got any complaints move it to #game-feedback

[sharp socket]

unless you have a gigantic stockpile of oil then yeah itll take a while

[steady beacon]

Firstly, no cats
In principle, 4 BB rotations with oath and max RLD tech is perfectly doable with relatively standard setups
The issue is not about the possibility
It's that surviving to the end is one hell of a hard ask
Now, if only Napoli had arrived earlier...

[sharp socket]

i did some napkin math and found that you spend roughly 10k oil a day if u do 12 sortie 4 times a day with dorm swapping on 12-4, factoring in daily gain and weekly oil so youll spend 400k oil in 40-50 days

[wind hazel]

[sharp socket]

i also factored in my personal commission oil gain per day of about 600-800 which i started recording about a month ago

itll get more accurate over time as with empirical data

naturally if you farm at a more sane pace of 12 sortie 2 times a day, youll get through your oil in like 90 days

though its probably not recommended to do that by some other people who have different thoughts on your mail oil

[sturdy cobalt]

Does the high efficiency thing increase morale comsumption or only oil

[sharp socket]

increase both

HELP will double: oil cost, morale cost, rewards (kinda), affinity gain
it will not double: time spent

[sturdy cobalt]

Alright are they worth using or not really

[storm heron]

so I can get 3 rld by just upgrading this?

[inland shoal]

Dorm swap?
Let's see... I have over 600 ships so that is 100 fleets. Each has atleast 120 morale so that's uhh 120/(2×7)=8.5 sorties per fleet, so 850 sorties which costs idk oil, so 400k are gone in idk
(Ok I have too little main fleet ships probably but whatever)

[inland shoal]

No you are already getting 3 rld from it. Preview tells you what you get after upgrading

[sharp socket]

you dont even need that, just 6 fleets will work with dorm swapping each of them

hold on napkin math tells me its 7

youll run into the cap of 24 hours in a day by doing that

[storm heron]

I checked the preview button and it gives me this, does that still means no additional, easy +3 rld?

[inland shoal]

Yes
But there's more lvls after that, I'd just look up the full table on wiki

[sharp socket]

with dorm swapping its 5 fleets, without its 7 fleets

[whole crypt]

wow this thing is slow

[silk helm]

so i literally dont have anything else, do i just use tool kit?

[tame jungle]

no black shell?

[sharp socket]

if no black shell then 2 white shell

[silk helm]

well black shell i use w the UR aux and all my whites r used on other BBs

i can buy another shell next month

[sharp socket]

do white shell + AFCT

[atomic abyss]

if you literally have nothing else

[sharp socket]

then white n black for other bb

[atomic abyss]

all 3 BBs have to use AFCT + HPFCR basically

unless you reload tune

with autoloaders

[silk helm]

would white/black vanguard + white/black alsace work?

[atomic abyss]

yes, but who even is the 3rd BB

[inland shoal]

That's boring I wonder what the max would be ignoring clear time

[silk helm]

fdg, but its in my mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

[whole crypt]

why are you using 3 BBs in your mob fleet

[silk helm]

nah alsace/vanguard are boss 🙂

[tame jungle]

who are you running as 3rd

[atomic abyss]

and fdg should join them in the boss fleet

[sharp socket]

what is he doing again

[wind hazel]

hu

[whole crypt]

just move FdG over and use someone else for mob

[atomic abyss]

^

[silk helm]

oh... i had enty

[atomic abyss]

im assuming this is opsi

[silk helm]

this is w12 also (12-4)

[atomic abyss]

w12 it doesn't even matter what you use then

triple CV on mob and triple BB on boss works

[silk helm]

okay ty

okay thanks. i did have a question on PR4, I finished anch, agir, avp. do you go for MP or grind fleet tech for haku

[wind hazel]

might as well do MP while you grind the fleet tech for haku

[sharp socket]

alternatively farm protocore and build cheshire

[silk helm]

okay, im at 200/900 for haku so itll take a while

i alr have chesire fs5

[sharp socket]

marco then

after that consider brest/ply

[silk helm]

do i change my research focus? 0 tenrais 😂 so probably no

[sharp socket]

how the heck

no need to change focus just build first if you have nothing else to build

[silk helm]

okay thanks

[wind hazel]

keep research PR4 until you're done with agir+haku fs5

[sharp socket]

if u finish marco you have faster agir/haku

[keen sable]

cheshire fs5 but 0 tenrai? sounds like you messed up

[silk helm]

i'm becoming berke 😭😭😭 my accounts bricked

[silk helm]

i 💳 chesire tho

[storm heron]

Ah cool, I looked at the wiki and it seems I can get an additional 4 rld at lvl 7, thanks

[keen sable]

even if you didn't convert paid bp to protocore you should have converted catchup bp to protocore

but yeah even worse perhaps because with paid bp you could have tenrai + plygun by now probably

[silk helm]

i've only done fdg, pr5 catchup. doing agir catchup now

i can still do full pr1,2,3,4 catchup but i don't have enough time 😭

[keen sable]

sure you do. what use is a bad agir to you?

[sharp socket]

why did u do pr5 catchup before anchorage/agir/haku

[silk helm]

secretary 😭

[hallow iron]

Once I have 2 tenrais can I change to Pr7? I really want that bayard armpit

[keen sable]

dev a ship has 0 to do with catchup or focus

[hollow gust]

what was the Alsace Soyuz Zwei order for med and heavy

[late flame]

i'd be more inclined to go pr5 first at least for plymouth

[hallow iron]

The curse of starting late, too many things need to do first before moving on the fun project

[teal lance]

I only have these two submarines, should i level them up so i can do dailies? (with xp books)

[keen sable]

leveling is free in ops

[late flame]

and slow af

[teal lance]

whats ops?

[late flame]

operation siren

[worldly pewter]

ignore subs until later

[teal lance]

ah, i see but i need two fleets for siren, but i only have one team. thats my main team

[late flame]

no idea, though my fleet usually goes zwei > soyuz > alsauce

[worldly pewter]

u can put whatever in the other slots and don't use them

[teal lance]

ah, oke

ive ignored it for a while, since i thought u needed 2 fleets

[worldly pewter]

if u can finish ch4 do it asap before the monthly reset

[south sequoia]

if you run a ship to proc alsace french skill it doesn't matter much what order it goes since alsace has the damage amplify consistently up
otherwise it should be just zwei soyuz alsace unless you're willing to cuck soyuz and zwei output
they're just too fast for alsace to catch up

[patent pivot]

tldr: flangun alsace and call it a day

[late flame]

dang.. 3 crossbows

[hollow gust]

Not syncing with Helena ?

Or you can just slap on the tables and hsfcr on everyone

[sharp socket]

sword or +9 crossbow for light

[blissful hamlet]

Is brest the highest damage french vanguard ship?

[late flame]

brest is a tank

[blissful hamlet]

That wasn't my question

[patent pivot]

iirc before bayard yes, bay might be higher now not sure

[frank pulsar]

sword

[hollow gust]

Mog??

[frank pulsar]

mogador

[patent pivot]

oh right mog exists

[silk helm]

always neglected

[blissful hamlet]

Forgot mogador exists lol

[hollow gust]

She literally outdamages ply lmao

[patent pivot]

to bad its still lower than hinde

[sharp socket]

is the acc better than fp

[blissful hamlet]

How tanky is mogador? I heard she's tankier than portland

[hollow gust]

It was brennus for 24 hours

[frank pulsar]

usually yea, since hit stat less saturated than fp
you never use crossbow unless its heavy bossing

[blissful hamlet]

They patched brennus?

[hollow gust]

They patched her the next day

[blissful hamlet]

Did someone snitched

[frank pulsar]

arnd the same

[sharp socket]

what does the hit stat affect, is it just hit chance

[frank pulsar]

hit stat works against enemy eva and lck stats

higher hit means your enemy evades your hits less

[plain saffron]

/accuracy

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Accuracy determines the chances of hitting or missing the enemy. It is affected by several stats, such as attacker's Hit, defender's Evasion, and Evasion Rate, as well as Luck stat of both. Full maths and factors behind it can be seen here.

Same factors also affect Critical Hit chances, maths behind which can be found here.

[inland shoal]

Hit chance and crit chance

[sharp socket]

has someone else calced the hit chance of lv125 soyuz/alsace on like a lv130 enemy

[frank pulsar]

hit affects crits?

[inland shoal]

No cuz lvl 130 enemy tells nothing about what eva it has

[sharp socket]

fine michita then

[plain saffron]

michita stats doesn't scale with lvl anyway it's in old datamine and wiki probably

[frank pulsar]

michita has 75 eva and 50 lck, just input alsace and soyuz stats into the formula

if this is about who gets your afct, i already said soy benefits more

[sharp socket]

nevermind too much math, ill just vacuum test in CM do nothing

[plain saffron]

just calc it and see which have higher
since only enemy stats will change whichever have higher won't change mostly

[rapid grail]

what's fleets for this month CM?

[sharp socket]

i realised it makes no difference anyway but my curiosity is satisfied

[frank pulsar]

uh whos the cm this month

wasnt sandy the one you just abused fs5 fdg barrage

[rapid grail]

july... Cancer?

[keen sable]

sorry not sandy

[rapid grail]

oh its Graf Spee... crab

[keen sable]

the claw

[frank pulsar]

oh spee, just use standard triple bb or triple cv and make sure to give your vanguard a lot of boilers and/or beaver badge

nvm it was unzen and sirius not helena and laffii

idr who had the usb and who had the boilers so just mix and match auxes until it works

[rapid grail]

pvp brain smort
uh, any fleet tech RLD adjustments?

[frank pulsar]

i have like 14 cv rld excluding cats, youre prob fine

[rapid grail]

Alright, I'll figure it out

[frank pulsar]

if cv dont work you can try triple bb, zwei + soy + alsace

iirc zwei should fire second if possible

[hallow iron]

If I'm using a 20 second gun with hpfcr on BB, do I need sg radar on Helena?

[rapid grail]

Yes, timing should sync

[worldly pewter]

u should yes
generally with maxed BBs they will reduce that 20s

[hallow iron]

Ok thx

[worldly pewter]

even without the radar on the BBs u should use the sg on helena

[rapid grail]

20*0.85 = 17s for first BB salvos

[hallow iron]

Just curious, since ur someone I see when I just started, do u prefer double shell or hpfcr on your bb?

[rapid grail]

so using SG Radar on Helena brings her first Radar Scan to 16s

[hallow iron]

Noted thx

[worldly pewter]

i use the black shell when i m out of options
when the 3 radars are slotted i mean

it is very rare case
or when lazy to swap

[rapid grail]

Rough calcs but the idea should apply to every BB without some preload shenanigans

[hallow iron]

Like this right?

The aux

[soft raft]

Yuh

[worldly pewter]

how many rudders do u have ?

[hallow iron]

Rudder is washing machine?

Only 2

[rapid grail]

good stuf, you want a lot of it

[worldly pewter]

yeah that works then
use 1 on tank 1 on helena and the last one should be a DD so plenty of eva

[rapid grail]

get the gears to +10 and its decent poverty setup for her

[worldly pewter]

helena's damage

[keen sable]

you can't spare a gold radar?

[hallow iron]

Gold radar exist??

Fk I waste a +10 on purple 💀

[plain saffron]

ehh +10 not that hard to get
+13 however is hard

[rapid grail]

don't see a need to +13 SG Radar

[hallow iron]

Yeah I didn't see that, noted with thanks

[worldly pewter]

+10 is a little bit unfortunate but purple gear doesn't hurt a lot don't worry

[keen sable]

eh they come from eu boxes

[hallow iron]

Let me just gacha on the box then, I keep on forgetting about those things

None gotten, it's fine, already +10 purple, I will just use it for now

[rapid grail]

yea that's fine for now

[willow dock]

Just curious, how many people is running EN community tier list?

[forest palm]

go ask in their discord they have a link on their site

[willow dock]

Ah

[versed elk]

anyone have auto team for ex

pls ping me with it thanks

[lean lava]

Guys should I pull here if I’m newbie?

[late flame]

i'd say better to save cubes

[eternal moth]

Doing a few pulls might be ok, but I'd start saving for the next UR event in a couple months. You need 400 cubes to pity, so saving up to that point would be a good idea. The ships in this event are pretty mid IMO

[late flame]

i followed this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrpS4hhFLuE

[lean lava]

What is UR ?

[rapid grail]

the best ship in this event is in the shop

[eternal moth]

Ultra Rare, rainbow, the highest rarity ships

[rapid grail]

Play the event to get the points to get the event drop/shop ship

[faint kite]

for 15-4 how many mobs need to be killed between the 2nd and final boss?

[lean lava]

Exterlude of illusion ?

[shell willow]

should be 1

[versed elk]

oh its kiki strat, thanks

[hollow gust]

URs

[lean lava]

UR means 6* ?

[hollow gust]

No? It means rainbow

[steel grotto]

he's technically not wrong if it worked that way lmao

[hollow gust]

SRs also end with 6 stars

[late flame]

missing a star

[forest palm]

nice dsync

[left cedar]

⏲️

[plain saffron]

where's your oathed saratoga

[late flame]

when she gets UR retrofit

[lean lava]

What formation can I do pls ?

[cobalt rapids]

unicorn penny something - portland helena laffey

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips read this aswell

[frank pulsar]

^^^ wtvr you dont have grab from guild shop

[sonic arch]

Does perseus' 90% increase in airstrike cooldown affect her fighter interception?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[sonic arch]

Wonderful thanks

[forest palm]

[lean lava]

Ty

[forest palm]

pretty sure this is a yesn't moment, passive intercept no, active intercept yes

[lean lava]

And also should I push the story or try to farm the event ?

[cobalt rapids]

event

[forest palm]

event would be more beneficial

[lean lava]

To get wat exactly ? And with my current team I think I cannot right ?

[cobalt rapids]

milestone and shop goodies

push campaign till u can farm in event

[lean lava]

Oki

[wary timber]

Anyone got a list of obtainable UR ships by release

[worldly pewter]

the best u can do is check the events here i think
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Events
u will find the jp and cn annies
and the december and feb ones

[patent pivot]

by memory: shinano, nj, shima, uvh, kronk, Vanguard, musashi, yk2, implac, biz, unzen, guam, soyuz, alsace

[forest palm]

Shinano → New Jersey → Shimakaze → Ulrich → Kron → Vanguard → Musashi → YorkII → Impy → BZ → Unzen → Guam + LaffII → Soyuz → Alsace + Mog

[wary timber]

So UVH would theoretically be the next UR in the normal build pool

[forest palm]

ya in theory

[wary timber]

So Musashi rerun would be imminent .. and soon it seems

[forest palm]

wouldn't hold my breath on that

[forest palm]

I literally went to the secretary page, and sorted by UR, and time joined lol

[worldly pewter]

if the pattern is kept
november

[patent pivot]

i went to my memory and guestimated

shima -> uvh feels wrong but guess not

[forest palm]

is what it is

[forest palm]

November tends to be occupied by a collab

[late flame]

unless we get a BA x MS situation

[lean lava]

What is flee lock or unlock ?

[wary timber]

I regret missing Guam and Laffey II

Along with Bis Zwei

[forest palm]

it skips the pre-battle screen with fleet lock on

[worldly pewter]

did u start before their release ?

[wary timber]

Shinano, UVH,Kron,Musashi,YorkII,BZ, Unzen, Guam, Laffey II, Soyuz, Alsace+ Mog(screw u RNG)
These are the URs I missed

Add Vanguard cuz I just got her. So u can gauge how long my hiatus was

[worldly pewter]

sounds like skill issues at this point

[wary timber]

I returned on the last week of Alsace + Mog event

[viscid swift]

Not likely, Roma and Brunhilde's events will probably rerun before Musashi

[forest palm]

Ulrich, YorkII, Kron, Mog, and Unzen are all negligible URs

the real painful part about missing YorkII is her event, which had the HVAR

[frank pulsar]

yorkii and unzen are quite prominent in the meta arent they?
i wouldnt call them negligible

[late flame]

(as a newb who joined AL just before York2 event)
cant believe i very nearly scrapped my* only copy of HVAR cat back then
now its perma locked to kear

[forest palm]

prominent, yes, but you can substitute them to a degree

[frank pulsar]

that's fair ig

[forest palm]

you're not going to be able to substitute any of the other URs on that list

[wary timber]

I can make do with BF109Gs for rocket planes .. for now

[forest palm]

ye they're effective enough against Light

[soft raft]

Eh

[wary timber]

That Musashi- Yorktown II seems.... cube intensive

[forest palm]

considering there's usually a collab event, and UR event in between...yes

[late flame]

pray to rngesus for ticket luck

[reef flume]

The road for Musashi is shorter

[eternal basalt]

2 more reruns too

[wary timber]

Bülcher too.. is she worth getting

[viscid swift]

She's the shop ship from her event

[late flame]

waifu only but otherwise no

[forest palm]

Blucher is just collection at this point

[wary robin]

Rigging researches are preferable for ur gear farm ?

[soft raft]

FP Tech too

[frank pulsar]

sp this time easy enough for uni + ply?

[wary timber]

Isn't the gun better than the normal German 203mm u can build

[soft raft]

Q and G researches yee

[forest palm]

the improved Twin 203 SKC is in fact better than the Triple 203 SKC

[reef flume]

Is York2 worth?
Real question I wanna ask is:
Is York2>Shina?

[steel magnet]

quick question how do u scrap modules

[late flame]

use as fodder when crafting

[steel magnet]

damn fr ight

[forest palm]

though at this point the Triple 234 is craftable, so you wouldn't really need the improved 203 SKC

[steel grotto]

fleet recs?

[wary timber]

Btw if I choose to not get a UR ship after reaching 400 I can eventually choose any URs that get added into the normal build pool in the future right

[soft raft]

Yes but it's gonna take quite a while between each addition so may as well just redeem it now and scrap for the spec core imo

[frank pulsar]

you cant accumulate any more points while youre at the 400 cap anyway

[forest palm]

love me +30 medals

[wary timber]

I don't have Shinano but uh for sake of superstition I'm not gonna get her

YET

[forest palm]

[reef flume]

Shes great

[wary timber]

I have implac

[forest palm]

that still does not compute

Impy is a support CV

Shinano is a damage CV

[wary timber]

Tho that guaranteed aimed torp strike seems useful but I'll need slow/stop skill user that I can time her with which I don't have much of or .. they won't last long enough

[wind hazel]

why do you not want Shinano

like of all perma UR and considering the next one being UvH, it's not even a contest to not choose Shinano

[grizzled jasper]

Still she can do the most damage against medium armour boss

[forest palm]

[late flame]

someone watching too much youtube

[forest palm]

stinky kimo cheese

[frank pulsar]

haku dmg is ahead of nano

[forest palm]

which is ahead of Impy

[wary timber]

Also I don't have enough planes to fully arm most CVs properly yet. Even my Implac is using whatever I have left for opsi. Including BTD-1s

[frank pulsar]

surely you have purple helldivers

[viscid swift]

You don't have Tenzens for her

[forest palm]

low budgeted CV building is a thing

[wary timber]

Oh .. I could open my stash of purple boxes now.

[forest palm]

plus if you have half the brain to be working on PR4 research you already likely have access to 3 BFGs, so that's literally 2/3s of a CV fleets build

with Helldivers included

[wary timber]

Then again I just used all my purple plates for Enty's Tenrai squadron