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Oh I mean u could do vanny , and still have enough for new UR
Haha very funny don’t curse us
yeah but is there a reason to mlb vanny
yes, 3rd BB for your OpSi and META showdown fleets
i probably wont get to use her in w14 considering i have 3 other ur bbs already leveled and ready to go soon
Chat how do we beat the EX stage 
oh yeah opsi alright
Uni tank and 4 ships that do damage
Consider that Vanguard is far stronger than fdg even at fs5 for triple rainbow BB boss fleets
FdG after a point is just a glorified janitor
Uni tank? 
what's worse is Musashi makes her jobless entirely 
i have no sushi unfortunately
Missing some commas when he copied me
Uni tank should be pretty obvious
Is this enough
Hopefully
If you die in 10 seconds, then read the map buffs
Could benefit from no Dd
Nah i got obliterated 6 times 
How long into battle
Uhh after the music notes attack thing
If you die in 27 seconds, then read the map buffs
Map buffs?
are there any free UR? a friend told me there was a free UR a few months ago

Depends on the event , there have been two URs for "free" in the event shop
No such thing, closest to free is the shop UR where u could get one for just playing the game
when do they return? and are thrre any in the near future?
In like 2 ish years, and 🔮
taps the sign
(Laffey II and Mogador are such Shop URs)
Is it just me or is there no Soyuz
just you
(Between Guam and Zero to hero)
What about 4 oil T3 for 2.35 points per oil over 3 oil T2 at 2.4 points per oil. Lose plates, gain time
And T3 drops toolkit for fleet power 
how much fp do u have suchi
I did a bit of fresh CVL + 0LB Phoenix for T3 it barely made it, might try it with 70RNGer later
also when is anni?
0LB fleets don't take to 0ammo kindly
CN in May
EN in Aug
JP in Sept
would probably work even with Cassin + Downes then
With two autoloaders. Change to HP for safety
oh nice what are the rewards?
I'll try that later, but it's not like time is a problem when you're just idle-running it the whole time
Is there a method to finding record files in OS, or is it pure RNG
Besides a event (UR event for CN and JP), you get a range of free goodies like a oath ring and gems (For ONLY your server region's anniv)
This is one map @grave hawk
I am seeing recommendations for a newbie to get enterprise. However I am not seeing an option to buy her?
wait so there’s a UR event in august?
She can alternatively be obtained via the rookie missions
Medal shop ship selection is randomized for each server
How is alase better than bis 2
actually if 4-oil T3 works it's only a tiny bit less oil efficient than 3-oil T2
You tell me
No
I said CN and JP get UR events, not EN
oh ok why doesn’t NA get one
That's what I said 
Ahh. Guess I better get grinding. She was not in my shop unfortunately. Does it refresh daily?
Prob because we're too close to JP anniv
oh
Monthly
so just give ring, and gems?
ah well I'll try it tonight or something, I usually do it on rotation with Cassin and Downes for morale so using 2 DDs in 1 fleet is actually going to be a bit of a switch up
If both t2 & t3 are 4 oil, and I want grey plate I just do t2?
if you're going to 4-oil anyway do T3
If t2 is 4 oil then I doubt you can do t3 with 4 oil
Not like I have 80 medals anyway. I literally just started. I got the recommended ships. But have Long Island as my last ship
It’s my ranger cassin fleet
depends on what your 4-oil fleet is because I don't think 70RNGer + 70Mahan or Z20 makes the cut
the problem with T3 is last fight is 0 ammo
Does retrofitting a 0lb ship make oil go up
no but you also don't get enough stats out of the retrofit nodes you can actually access
those are usually included by default anyway
btw is the dd in the event shop worth getting
collection mostly or you can also wait for her to drop from HT3
It’s for collection, but event ship better than no event ship
All event shop ships are worth getting for collection or tech
should i change anyone’s gear?
French tech doesn't give buffs tho?
Does
Research ships still need tech points
And fleet tech bonuses apply to all ships regardless of faction
actually if 4-oil T3 works out it can be more than 3-oil T2, because you automatically assume point cost for drop ship if you're not grinding where she drops
My alsace and riche overkilled 
T3 drops laudacieux? 
HT3 supposedly does, I'd assume T3 does too
Ships give stats to MLB ships, it's not just faction tech points
wait so what should i swap?
when I checked it did not
or at least implied so
Everyone has at least one bad gear, depends on what you have
this is all my additional gear
T3 drops dunk and glowworm according to wiki
I'm not sure myself, when I checked CN wiki they listed her sources as drop but they didn't have her on the HT3 drop list
ah well then it's just a minor drop in oil eff then
so all i have is the gear on my team and on that pic
Aviation tank for unicorn and anything with HP or EVA for all vanguard ships
And twin 100 on sovetskaya goes to laffey and twin 152 in the depot goes to sovetskaya
so this for unicorn?
do small events like this rerun? or just get added to WA
and this?
Change depth charge to fire extinguisher
and which are vanguards?
Vanguards are laffey Helena Portland
ok what do i need to switch on them?
oh so vanguards are frontline
what is back line called?
vanguards are frontline, vangoods are backline
ok
main...
Don't ok that
about the budget, if i do all my 3 daily pulls and like 2 10 pulls at last day at event, and still no ships, then i just give up and wait for wa/rerun right?
some really odd joke that didnt land idk
oh i thought they were being serious…im so dense sometimes 
anything else i should change?
Nothing important
ok
Get more gear and ask again or follow good guides
also any way to get extra rewards outta game? like codes or following their twitter account or something?
no, well yes for twitter actually
yes
ok
how?
do what twitter commands you to do
its a community thing
reach X followers and get poggy stuff
And simple Follower # milestone rewards which they just mail that shit to your inbox whenever that happens
discord will have things too
can i get previous ones? or just new milestone rewards
just new
oh :((
lot of trolls here tonight eh. guess this must be fake news
honestly forgot about this
oh wait lets go free stuff
how do you guys know that you’re ready to move on from grinding event points and ready to start raising an event ship? (this is my main issue for most events)
those things are not mutually exclusive...
Don't you raise event ships in HT3?
why not do both at the same time?
in fact events are easier than 12-1...
i do try that but i feel world 12 grinding just gives more exp
either that or im just lazy
I finished Bayard on basically event only and on track for Napoli event only. (well plus ops...and there was no event for halford)
Is this event shorter than normal? Like content wise.
ya, it's technically a small(medium?) sized event rather than the usual large scale 
it's medium sized I feel since it has a shop 
i call them medium once its only SP maps and Shop
and small once has only SP and NO shop
Any gear worth farming in the current event?
nope
HT3 passive farming will be nice I guess, you get Toolkit prints, but ya no gear in this event is specifically worth farming
Aight. More oil for 12-4 for me. 
Typically I stop farming an event once I get everything o want from it, after that
I farm 12-4 or w13
Late reply but hey busy day here
So check shop and milestone rewards. Anything nice? Then get the points needed for that, after that ditch the event
How's brennus dps
I always buy out skin boxes so
cbf to stay stuck in an event during PR Grind 
wanna ask,HT3 is the good spot to grind correct?
For most yeah
arent you the dps guy
If you have a low oil fleet and don’t mind exhausting battery life then T2 cough cough now.gg
The DPS guy says brennus outdpses Hindenburg with around equal gear and levels
i believe you
is that as belivable as northhampton2 = drake
with 5 more levels and a +13 hinden gun on brennus, hindenburg would be powercrept to the trash bin
if you don't believe me, test it for yourself 
was that from your runs lol
Suchi where do you test?
should I buy the pr7 blueprints or the arrays from shop first?
id buy arrays
that looks like challenge mode
Oh I see. I was wondering how he dealt with aa contamination
My own testing setups use an aa carry without guns
This event EX in easy mode, medium armor
I should've looked at the damage, my bad
Actually for testing what do others here do?
chelleng
I guess that’s indeed best


Who are the strongest vanguards to carry fleets in exp farming?
For 12-1 u dont need such thing i guess
you dont need a hypercarry vanguard or backline to to CDC grind in W12
Also like what kind of answer were you expecting besides Rainbow spam 
the answer of which specific rainbow. apparently my triple fodder main fleet got wiped out so i need a pretty hard carry cuz laffii alone wasn't enough.
can we see the fleet

and levels
are you like the other person that was failing 12-4 with trash +0 gear?
how TF is that failing
how do you die with a healer
Are rocket planes typically used for med n light Armour? 
The fuck is Aksashi doing there
And im pretty sure that Izumo is hard whiffing half of her barrage
one fleeting is not a thing?
Aight ty
time to try it on EX mode 
what should I use my UR prints on now? I have 7 extra and just wait for one more to make a 4th wyvern
Use actual useful ships on backline
could invest in UR aa
Also akashi in flagship spot, wasting that exp
Why Is Izumo not in the flagship position
Not only would she stop hard whiffing half of her barrage, she would have actual durability compared to Akashi
i'm leveling them, that's why i'm asking for which vanguards to use.
Honestly why are you levelling Akashi anyways
I would just exp packs until 100 tbh 
your issue is something besides ships
suprisingly dont have any of those but dont mind waiting for next month to get it
where my 10k currency last event 
if you're talking about event points, have you tried looking in the event shop tab?
wait is UR rainbow torps worth making anytime soon or nah?
okay nvm then i guess. my question was very simple but apparently i'm getting way off answers.
yeah i suppose i'll do this instead
tysm 
Nah
Rainbow quint mags about as good as gold quad mags and the rainbow sub torps are whatever
what gear are you running on your ships
it must be bloody awful for that to fail in W12 on safe unless you're trying to one fleet at which point why
makes sense, I'll just use it on AA and should I make another Iowa gun or nah? I only got one atm
After like 1-2 UR AAs sure
have u done w15 yet?
Nope Im waiting for the gear to do so that's why I will get enough UR AA before anything else
I also am missing Laffey II/ Guam because I wasnt playing during the event
damn, you can get by tho , just not as easily
Should I be using t3 skill books on my javelin or is that a waste? (Brand new)
wanna ask,how many fleets do i need late game?
2 for campaign (Not like you can bring more than 2 fleets to campaign in the first place), 3-4 for Operation Siren (Primarily for the Arbiter fight)
For which Armour type is the prototype spearfish good for? 
yeah that's why Im not even trying until shimanto is done and I have UR AA for Sandy
i think i have about 9 or 10 fleets worth equipped
Sextuple is better than UR AA for sandy
oh okay then, who should get it then usually?
Everyone in your vanguard except the strongest AA gun slot
this event has a daily mission of 3 pulls right? already did 3 so I cant check till reset 
how many event points I get from daily mission?
SInce im pretty sure I can craft any 1 UR gear of my choice, what would you all recommend I make? this is my current UR gear
another wyvern
why is all hard stage of event uses the same fleet
I want to change the fleet for each hard stages
why would you wanna do that tho?
Min max farming
nagami
low oil for HT1 and leveling fleet for HT3
why
Because they use the same stuff as D1-D3 stage
very annoying 
All 3 stage share 1 "stage id", each stage id have 1 fleet
is this an intended feature?
Best low oil is t2 though

I know but the milestone goal is incredibly high so I need to use all my low oil fleet
the T2 fleet already low morale
Fuck morale, tell them to work more
Make another low oil fleet lel
even over a NJ gun which I dont have yet?
I have a lb0 cassin and downes precisely for this
Imagine not having 3
actually yeah you're right I'll farm another ranger 
Single digit percent improvement over the mk6 unless you plus13 it
Just a lv1 ranger should work
Or eh the other common cvls
Wyvern is more dmg improvement
Single digit
this mk6?
In what place should vanguard fire for her buff to be efficient? 1st or second?
Yep
Depends on the battle length and your fleet and the enemy boss movement
If they’re tightly packed doesn’t matter, it’s not on fire it’s on loading I think
The short answer is that it doesn't matter that much
So she can fire anytime and the buffs will happen?
The firing itself will affect future salvo times, but the debuff itself is applied on loading
event stages, do I have to do both normal and hard?
The worst way is if she's first and the battle is too long and she zooms too far ahead of your other BBs
Otherwise doesn’t rly matter
Does she get fire control radar or just black and white shells?
Dorm question. Does the 2nd floor actually help for anything
Just hard is enough.
Okay, thanks.
What are your other ships using? Keep in mind vanguard is quick so she’ll outpace your other bbs gradually
If your other ships are using radar then use radar on vg too
Otherwise then no
Morale regeneration
Which lets you farm for longer and get that pretty nice 20% exp gain buff
I was using her in pvp and she was the last to fire. They all have champ guns at +13 and fire control radar
Hmm
Go to #pvp your gear is bad
PvP gearing is very different from standard gearing
im assuming its not worth spending 800 coredata on a blackburn to save on crafting a wyvern?
no it's totally worth it
I was just tryna level her a little higher not actually playing pvp
Arguable, I think general opinion here is it’s fine to good
saves a good amount of resources
Doesn’t matter champy guns are bad for pvp
Winning would obviously be better for exp and merit
cuz this is what im sitting at for gold resources
again just buy the blackburn, it's better to save gear lab mats where you can
I think I do rather well in PvP my win rate is 97%
Well if you’re doing that well then nvm
Just that once again optimal pvp gear is very different
What about in harbiter. Does the position vanguard fires in not matter as well?
But hey just enjoy yourself
Are they close to each other? If so at pv125 with the same champs guns she’ll still be first
Which is fine also
We all have super high PvP win rates lol
99% of the time, defense fleets are a complete jooke
Alright. I’ll come back again if I have any more questions
is a 97% wr high?
Thanks for the help
any tips for ex bossing?
I'd say it is
Eh top ladder stuff can occasionally bump you and it does depend on the server
alr, just crafted a 2nd wyvern.. what should be my next gear lab goal?..
@spice phoenix
There has been a lot of power creep especially for pvp, if you lack the best options you can lose a lot if you don’t reset and fight good defense fleets
@sweet delta twin mahans were fine for safe
Mk7 if you want various general/niche usage, or rainbow AA gun if you want chapter 15 done
For what?
but I'm slightly skeptical on how much time is actually saved because it's 1 more fight and it'll be a long one
T3?
this is my current AA situation
somewhat lacking in the heavy hitters 
Looks like you're not tackling w15 anytime soon. Still you can go mk7 for relatively constant usage, or start stocking up on AA
what is your current progression?
get some Sextuple Bofors (PR3, Protocore Shop), UR AA (Gear Lab), STAAG for BBs
keep the Roombas
decent stock, can be better though
stigma managed T3 pre-safe with mahan + z20 presumably using mog gun, 4-oil T3 is just slightly behind 3-oil T2 for oil eff but 20 more points/run
what lvl is that Mahan on
havent touched world 14 once yet even though I prob could. fully cleared world 13 and got Bunker Hill. I havent even touched anything AA in gear lab tho as you can see from my resources tho
0lb 70
oh, Cassin/Downes? I see. Who's backline?
fresh common cvl
just lvl 1?
up to 33
oo kk reminds me of 2-1/3-4 farming
How tf are you supposed to beat this EX lol, Eldridge + JdA or something?
does clearing HT1 automatically clear T1 as well? just asking
the thing is doing 33% more points per run is only good if the run isn't more than 33% longer
@quartz jungle
it doesn't clear the norm ver but you can access later map without clearing earlier on norm
so I can say, clear HT1 and still go to T2 after that without clearing T1
kk ty
I did it with rainbow BB/Agir/Helena/Plymouth, just make sure no beaver badge
I did it with unicorn aquila illustrious 
the worst that can happen with that is you time out, as long as no beavers
how new event ship so far?
jp 100mm gun
its a good one
How does one acquire meta crystals for past cruise mission ships?
whats the ranking of these 3 guns
which one do i prioritize and which is less useful
113 > quad 40 > 105
ok
You can't. Yet
would u use a purple quad 40 or 113 over gold this
Figured, thanks for the info. They've been around for quite a while....shame it's not possible to fully upgrade them if you miss some missions
the purple sure would be cheaper for about the same strength
so ima replace my pompom shi with purple 113
no but i also use 76mm and 102mm for future conversion 
does alsace slot into any of the opsi meta teams? Or is she just a pvp staple? Have all UR BB except Kear (wip)
purple F4U pr gold messershmit me-155A
f4u
naw just upgrade the purp f4u into pancakes in the future
I solved my acv problem by adding another cv. still with bad gear 😔 I don't know why it works
cuz acv is planes
are the event ships any good
Do I need proto spearfisk for anything?
not really
Good
tech/collection
so no?
no
You guys think Strasbourg is worth pulling for?
do all UR/SR ships have these missions?
who would be a better tank for kazagumo+sirius fleet, agir or ancho?
thankies 
not really
ah damn okay
well, i would still pull 3x per day on the event banner
if you get her ok if not its still ok
sorry im new but why is it worth pullin 3x a day?
event points
the even banner is just special build+ the new ships
Daily mission that gib event points
no, not worth
i kind of want to save for the anniversary cuz i think thats coming up next month or something idk
then save
thats the smarter move yea
alright chiefs decisions final;
I hope they release the limited skins again during the anniversary i wasnt able to get some
if not then we'll have to wait till Black Friday but thats so far away
i want a new nagato skin 
its not that far
Its in November thats like 4 months
1/3 of a year is not that far away yea right
Wurf the wait. They prolly gonna gib the skin discount coupons again if u buy lots of skins
YAAAAAAAAAAAAY
i really want the summer skins for New Jersey and such, can't believe i missed those
did they release a new UR with last years anniv?
always did with CN and JP anniversary
ahhh
then saving would be a really good idea for newbies 
EN Anniv shafted
Thanks
What should I use for ancho?
no real reason to do normal mode in event right
if u want faster smoke screen use right
can i just do hard mode for this event?
its always more worth it to run hardmode on events
except if you are new and dont have the levels for it
normally i have to do normal mode to unlock hard mode
not anymore
How are the event ships? Are they good?
from what i read from here they think they are just techpoints
they arent anything special
can't remember are there any IJN fast launchers besides Akagi and Kaga?
events never need you to do normal first, you're thinking main campaign
is +10 quintuple 533 or +11 quad 533 better
which one? there are lots of 533
magnetic both gold
gold or rainbow quint?
gold quint is bad, and rainbow quint is about as good as gold quad
worse than gold quad mag but usable if you don't have enough gold quad mag
ye i have 2 gold quint and 1 gold quad
does Akagi muse want odd or even muses again?
i thought it was just based on quantity not odd/even
this is just a trophy item right
if I remeber correctly Akagi swaps DB and TB barrage based on odd/even, not plain muse count
also why does it say "cannon" damage? does the game actually refer to guns as cannons or is it talking about cannons cannons like tempesta girls have
but I don't remember which is better
FP-scaled damage basically
Anything scale with FP is cannon dmg
Also another toolbox alternative
ok so it's not entirely gimmicky, nice
what are some characters worth retrofitting?
Pretty much yeah
uni
already have her done
an shan, fu shun chang chun, and tai yuan
war-

chang chun not fu shun
fu shun next year fr 
and sandy aka san diego
already done most of those, but i havent done these three plus saratoga and nelson, so i’ll probably do them
keep doing hard mode for the core, even after you get enough mats for retro
yeah, i’ve been doing hard mode for a good while since there’s still some stuff i need in the core shop
checking and i dont think i have the material for tai yuan, was that from an event that i missed?
yeah, but it may come soon to the shop
as for the date, just soon™️
ahh i see i see, makes sense
could i also have some help putting together a team (or two if i have enough good characters for it) to farm for august von parseval? these are my sr ships, though i also have a bunch of elite ones to use too
preferably would like to use ships that would be useful in late game content too but its not absolutely necessary either
show elite as well
Strasser + Zep + Odin would be enough to farm August, xp farming is not that high a bar 
i also have bismarck zwei (plus some others) but i’d have to swap them out soon since they’re either at level 120/125 already
also none of those ships are relevant to the late game
Anyone know the timer for Strasbourg?
is lik audilex fgood
check the first pinned doc
also got u-73, u-522 and u-31 but they didnt fit in the screenshot

odin+thuringen+1
is there any way to get joffre? or is it too late? 😦
i want her RQ outfit, but missed her event whenever it was.
wait for wishing well
tysmm
Joffre is perm, and you don't go diving in perm banners
would there also be any good ships for a second team? since theres a lot of extra ships i dont mind doing another one so i can farm quicker
not much option to go with, too much resources for just PR grind. just make do with 1 fleet
She's in perma pools, but iirc she been added too recently to appear in the next wishing well
ahh i see i see, fair enough then
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Joffre i thought she was a limited drop
like you can put in elbe+jade if you wanna but in the end it's not too much of a big difference
if its not too much of a difference, then probably not then
Do you see the green checkmark under Special
That's the Perma pool she's in
anyone know how to get the butt animation of strabourg in the car window

tap the car's brakelight
ty lolol
how about getting to the fullscreen with the clock?
literally afk on the main menu
Nah
you cant get there by clicking around?
no, that feature is literally if you are afking with the game open on the main menu
Stigma was right , brennus is kinda awesome lmao , especially for a gold CA
how so
dps
Very very nice dps
is she better than hindenburg
In very very specific circumstances if she can keep all the swords alive, she dps can match hinden
how realistic is that though 
check the thread for more tests
apparently a bug
would be funny if they never fixed it like half the other bugs
Yongshi fixing their game? crazy talk
is she really that op
intended feature 
is it ht3 hard that can drop l'Audacieux?
is souyz nakimov and chkalov better than bismark musashi and vanguard as medium armor fleet?
My official response
Damn 77, not bad
it's for theory crafting
Theory craft when you actually have her maxed, anything people say right now is full of shit
hard facts
no point in theorycrafting if you cant actually act upon it
77 prints already 
Tips on current event EX stage ? My vanguard died after boss spawn static notes on the field and some of it shoots small notes
dodge, run uni, a tank, and 5 ships that do damage
according to suchi
Don’t use beaver, dodge better, use ships like anchor and Jeanne
doesnt easy mode unlock with beaver


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does the event have daily normal 3x
no
only reruns have those

reruns have hard daily, every event has normal...
reruns and the non sp events right
?
probably

idk i dont remember
brennus op?
Slightly frailer than Portland, slightly more offensive than Portland
check the thread ender
i am dented, whats wrong with brennus 
Her barrage is prob doing too much
I just like her design 
Then I forgot to get her skin like a genius
Yeah it's probably this
She's apparently able to out damage TY retro
She should not being Hindenburg damage even with the awesome barrage lol
This would push her to Carl tier at least
Assuming it's not a bug
Probably is tho, a shame
Did nagami change his name again
Maybe
What does that even say
I hate new info box anim
No idea what that means lol
Anim short for animation
They updated the info popup to have some animation and make it a bit slower to do anything
Who do I get?
Am I slow? Info popup?
Lose the only advantage AL have over other gacha 😔
What's your Shinano at limit break wise
Lvl 2
So another Shinano
So I need 2 more bulins to mlb
The box that shows up almost everywhere that have cancel or confirm button
But isn't new jersey rly good?
1 MLB ship > multiple LB1/2 ships
So Alsace is better?
Oh wait, actually you might be onto something, my pc has been running the game worse
Is the new ur any good?
Alsace is better, Soyuz is, Musashi is, Bis Zwei is
Hell even UvH
Vanguard isn't new
But she's less dps more support
The damage boost she effectively gives others is insane tho
No the other unobtained option
Shimakaze? As a gacha UR, she's excellent
But frontliners have lower priority amongst URs
Yes, as nagami said, max limit broken 1 ship > 2 non mlb ships
What are some differences between BCs and BBs, if any?
Lower FP, lower cost (sometimes), higher main gun efficiency, higher eva, lower HP
HMS BCs can only use DD secondaries
KMS BCs have weaker CL secondaries and only have aux gun +1 instead of +2
Doesn't seem like any real reason to use them. I think Odin is like the only kinda unique one?
based purely on their defaults, BCs are just weaker on the statline
Odin and Rupprecht really
but more modern compensate with gimmicks like stronger secondaries
Rupprecht has some form of frontline healing
Odin is ofc the most unique with how she positions herself
Weird.
a number of them also have torps, though that doesn't tend to be very good
None of them seem like gOoD sHiPs.
folr the normal event do u guys just bring 2 ships in the vanguard
BBVs seem kinda awkward, too.
I mean Hood, Brunhilde, Seydlitz, Odin, Rupprecht, Repulse meta and Tamaki are all great ships...by gold standards at least
is it worth it to do the 3 ship build for the daily mission or should I save cubes? This is my second event
BBVs are awkward cos 4/5 were made in the first year of AL
And only 1 of them has any form of suicide boat interception
Save with 1 event build a day
Not worth doing 3 for the event currency
Then there's Kearsarge
Who needs no introduction
Yeah, pretty much
I'm just looking for ships to faceroll 15-3 and 15-4 with.
The 2nd forgotten as usual 
Those will be URs usually lol
I want Musashi and York2 so bad.
Also I don't think there's such thing as "face rolling" 15-3 and 15-4 anyways
no need
I don't think any of the BCs really stand up particularly well to w15 scrutiny
they dont
Yes, need. I think those are the only 2 URs I'm missing. 
Musashi seems to be in a lot of recommended fleets for 15, too.
Cos she can take a lot of punishment yes
bad tech friendly fleet
I need to change out some of my sub gear but I was supposed to go with this for 15-3.
Oof. Browsing guild recruitment and there’s a million and one Sandy guilds but barely any Amagi.
Kinda crazy how that 2nd slot UR goes to BZ.
it should work for 15-3, but plan for 15-4 3 bosses
if you got alsace/nj raised id use them over zwei, otherwise looks fine
anyways, could use this as reference, cuz it did surprisingly well
im assuming this fleet is a 2 1 2 fleet?
gl 
might want to swap in volga or klaudia in fleet 2 if youre having trouble killing fast enough
Do you recall how bad your tech was when you cleared with those fleets?
I don't even know how to view my overall tech. 
same tech as rn, absolute garbage cats, like +1 bb reload , overall bad tech
no idea what the total is
but i have a cumulative tech point of 12k , which is rly bad
How can I view my cumulative tech?
go to the fleet tech page
fleet tech > details
Guys what IB pr ship should i get? (i need 6 more points and i have 700 tech points)
dont even need to go to details
FdG first, then AvP, then Agir
and i already have Roon
This was mine
If you have implacable, you can skip AvP and go straight for Agir
I have Zeppelin and Strasser
AvP first then
Since she's basically mandatory for good carrier comps if you lack implacable
What do you hit to view those pages?
Details on fleet tech
thats the details button
and why FdG?
coz she is good
Because she's one of the best ships in the game
i have both UvH and NJ
I don't see a details button?
fdg is better than NJ or uvh outside of meta battle
It's not like you have at least 3 of Soyuz/Alsace/Bismarck Zwei/Vanguard/Musashi
I have 2 Soy sauce
Derp.
Are they MLB tho
nope
If it isn't MLB comparison is meaningless
okeh
non maxed ship is just garbage
im going FdG then (isn't as if my fleet 1 consists out of 3 IB ships)
And yeah FdG outperforms UvH and NJ in most cases
Excellent for mobbing too
hmmmm should I Clear the normal mode in the event or just leave it?
bleh
Fdg outperforms them in chapter 14 and below, and fdg underperforms them in most single target bosses
How bad is my tech and what should I focus on? BB reload?
gotta lb my Tirp
Whoops. I went FdG, Anchorage, and I’m almost finished with Ägir. Missed the AvP thing.
Well AvP kinda needs FS5 to shine after all
You can't coin anchorage and AvP at the same time anyways
Yep
Or maybe you can finish one fast with 300 catch-up
That’s how I got Anchorage so fast.
I would have done AvP if I had realized she was the better one.
One isn't better than the other
It depends on what you need really
Oh, well that’s fine then too.
The general recommendation is still Anchorage first after FdG
Since she's a massive upgrade over other tanks you'd have at that point
AvP kinda only works her best at FS5 where the freeze proc rate increases to 100% from 80%
She can be replaced by Ark till then
I don’t know what I need because I have a relative ton for only like 3 months of playing.
I use Roon and Cheshire currently.
Cheshire will be very useful for late game as an AA carry lacking Guam/Laff2
FdG is FdG
Roon gets replaced by Anchorage or Agir, right?
Yes
whats FS5
Fate simulation 5
fate simulation
I have a gearing issue that I need to address with FdG. She’s 10 levels higher than my Vanguard, but she’s being outperformed by Van.
She is Dev 30 right
- Still working on her.
right?
Then there's your reason
Literally missing her last gun mount
So 1/3 of her damage
I didn’t have as many bps of her as I would have thought when I was able to develop her. So it’s slow going.
Well that's where coining comes in
What's the priority order for tech focus? BB RLD and CV RLD?
I don't enhance every AA gun I come across, is income low because of enemy type drops in events? Or does AA plate research appear more often?
Rld>hit>fp/avi
rng id say
29 fdg 1/4...does she need FS?
AA gun is my 3rd lowest on whites
She does not need FS unless you're running her off flag
What FS then if I use hher off flag
Yes bb reload , hit, fp
Cv rld, hit, avi
Cruisers Eva and fp
I exchange only aux and plane in medal
that looks pretty similar to my ratios
tho i just get the same amount of all plates
How to get more grey plates
Uh like 11k+
isnt that like nothing
okay that sounds way more reasonable

so basically my plate amount matches pretty similar to the ratio of our attacks too
Do a lot of ships come with a blue gun ?
That would explain the way higher mg plates
Since i didnt get to boxes opening tech yet
older ship and ship that usually exist and have the matching gun in game usually carry their own gray/blue ver of gun
That’s quite a difference
Yea i miss counted the numbers lol

Avg B farmer
Hi
got a question about the new event since the interface is a bit different, is there still a bonus X3 on the first clear of the day?
I've only been doing B1 for less than a year
alright, thank you guys 
i literally never do Bs or As
hmmmm should I farm the event or no?
and i got more plates so is it really worth it
do B stages even drop more gray than higher levels?
Do meta ships now show when you sort by can limit break?
I used to only go for C/D but at some point last year I was convinced for low-costing, grey plates weren't even part of the plan
i just dont see a reason to do that
hmmmm what are you guys talking?
Maybe because they don't drop purple plates. definitely they do cost less oil to run though fellow Potter pfp
true, low-costing that would improve oil/plate efficiency
I don't remember does D have grey in drop table
pretty sure every stage can still drop grey plates
13+ doesn't
... yeah, that checks out, i don't ever farm 13+ lol
maybe i would've noticed with the hard mode drops, but i don't pay attention to that
well I haven't been doing 13 lately either
Could someone that has a non MLB meta check please? 
Who to use on
Unzen for now
My unzen already has this
Well Unzen is gonna be fighting light armour much so
You use this gun when fighting light
You use the 234 above for fighting med
How you know
Sorry, she isn't gonna be fighting light armour much
Cos her damage is torp based
Which specialises against heavy armour mainly
Look into her future
So swap?
unzen being a torpedo ship is automatically biased to dealing more damage to thicker armor, so matching the gun to what you'd effectively use her for makes sense. either way, you can just match the gun to what she's actually fighting in your case
Well until you have Hinden at 30
You'll probably be using the 234 on Unzen more
Then once Hinden hits 30, Hinden gets priority for the gun that counters the enemy better
do i need to 3 star event map ?
Mission rewards
there are extra rewards for 3 star-ing them, though just normal or hard, not both
For people who love playing general content, using HE on unzen would balance her armor mods and lead to a good general load out 
U can 3 star it in 1 run so easy
alright thanks 
hi thats me i use unzen gun on unzen
Lmao general content
well, realistically, for general content either gun is gonna perform about the same. i have been throwing HE at w13-4 hard for weeks since i don't want to swap gear for it
Akshually
No ok but genuine question
Given Unzen doesn't have MGM+1
Which gold CAs actually beat her on the gunnery department
unzen has mgm+1
Wait she did 
Wdym no mgm+1 
The fuck
I thought she didn't
Shes mgm2 yea
yes, she has double preload, parallel load, and mgm+1. perfectly balanced lmao
Yeah that's totally fair...

her trp stat is like trp ca stat but if you oxytorp then stonks go up
Wichitam easily
double gun pog
Michita at what HP threshold
When her hp is in (0%, 100%]
This just main gun damage?
I was asking for main gun damage only
Moreso a question of who to prio the better CA guns on in other words
Is San Francisco good?
Btw pilica
Were you the Ryza simp here 
We need your help
Very good at everything really
Just not the best at anything
SF is pretty decent
Is it related to the Ryza games or just the Ryza girls in AL?
The latter in this case
It's related to Brennus
But she's better than laffey-kai, Helena-kai and Kuybyshev?
Also, Idt I simp them 
I do ship the two in my pfp though
Diff roles
They are all different classes of ships

🤔 Vanguard is vanguard, right?
HMS Vanguard is a BB so no
finally, My final UR CA gun bp, Anchorage can use it right?
I mean she can
Just don't expect her to do much damage
No, no still talking about San Francisco
Poorly phrased question
But different vanguard ships have different roles
San Fran can fill up different roles to a decent extent
Hence her moniker of jack of all trades
She can be a tanker, a dps, even a pseudo healer
Is she better than any of these?
Not at their roles
On performance
Depends on what you're using them for
But Helena is the least replaceable
Hmm 🤔, okay. So how do we use San Francisco?
She can be a tanker, a dps, even a pseudo healer
The question is moreso, what do you want her to do
Helena mainly for bossing, kuyby is my Portland replacement and laffey-kai is jumping around between mob and boss, depending on how weak my mob fleet is
Shes not replacing em as dps but can replace for the other 2 roles cooper mentioned
dos
So then you'd replace kuyby as a tank
Kuyby isn't even a tank 
Well she is tanky enough for my purposes, lol
What is she then?
My mob fleet is a joke anyway
Just a random question Otto von al or z47 who better just as a destroyer
Is it normal to be severely lacking in UR bulins?
zamn ic
Hence its very important to know who to prioritise
Anyways I'd replace either kuyby or Laffey with San Fran
Probably Laffey
but how can a dead ship beat another one 
]0%;100%] should be more accurate right
?
My mob. Constantly changing
Emden or Bismarck what should be prioritized?
I have a good backline already
Neither are Ur
( = strictly higher than bound
[ = higher or equal than bound
Emden isn't even a UR
Which Bismarck are you talking about here
Bismarck Zwei then
Should I take out bèarn Meta for Indomitable?
Definitely Bismarck Zwei
No question
I swear that looks like the cursed interval convention from that one Lang book...
I have these strong backliners already so I thought maybe unzen was the right call.
they taught me something else 
we study on metric so basically the french way
Your BB fleet isn't that strong
Why not?
Oh, so it's a FRENCH convention 
Actually wait
mushy tho
Priority would be to MLB vanguard first
I did already this was an old ss
So then Mushy Vanguard Bis Zwei
Backline dps is way more important than frontline dps
And UvH doesn't really compare to them
Indom has less damage basically
She's useful in different places
Aight I wanted someone to convince me to abandon Unzen lol tyvm 
Temporarily
Unzen is important
Just not as important as Bismarck Zwei
I will prioritize shimakaze when I get her over unzen so she won't get any action in basically forever lmao.
Unzen is shima upgrade
Unzen is a Shima upgrade
So no lol, Shima is not better
Unzen has strong guns and torps
Shima only has strong torps
how much is the
/
in ht3 ?
Wanted to put her in to get some lvls, she'd at least give me some tech

If that's your purpose then why are you asking
It depends on your priority
Clearing content, or raising ships for tech
Lol, reasons
You cant do both
Okay who would help more in w13?
Well for a start, unicorn
Indom has better intercept due to better fighter slots but bearnm has dmg and stagger
Try Unzen in PvP and lmk how that goes 
So that already takes out one ship
Indep already has the stagger so Bearn isn't gonna help there
So the last slot depends on whether you need more AA or more damage
okay thanks, i'll keep thst in mind
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Was Unzen the UR released at the beginning of the year?
Thanks.
Last September
Sep 2023
U can also use the ingame help function
Dec URs were Guam and Laff2
Gross. I want Guam. That means a really long wait.
so ive retrofitted all the starters + Unicorn + 2 DDGs , Z1, Nelson, Sandy, Portland, Helena, Saratoga, Warspite and Shouhou and some less notable ones. any other ships worth doing the retrofit for while i save for Independence?
Sandy if u can afford it
Not sure why you retrofitted Warspite...
Sandy already there
i already retrofitted Sandy
Mb 
The only other notable one is Yuudachi ig
Warspite was one of my earlier retrofits
Yuudachi falls in the same category as warspite rn
no Yuudachi yet sadly
So just go for indep
What about Ark?
Ark Royal is on her way to retrofit while i level her up
Or is she not worth it these days?
Ark is just not worth if you got AvP at FS5 or Impla
other than independence and Ark Royal any CVs or CVLs worth dumping my resources on for fun cuz i have way too much CV retrofit things around
Langley I guess
done
stares at unleveled un MLB’d Commons
Feeling like I missed a boat… again 😂
i would very much argue that she isn't as much of a waste sink as warspite, the competition is big for dd but not as tremendus as bbs
Yuudachi's retrofit is significantly cheaper and is more useful, besides spec cores of course
yeah
i can waste resources retrofitting CVs and still have a lot left over
so yes it's still expensive but it's not same lv of sink as warspite
Fair i was thinking more along the lines that u get better options and she doesnt do anything fairly special
the irony is that i dont have a chen hai.
Is there any point in doing the hard versions of the event stages instead of the normal?
Ranger or Hermes if you already retrofit Hiryuu and Souryuu I suppose
ill probably retrofit Hermes and Ranger now
More points and oil cap
the better option is most of the time locked on events 
Well not necessarily dds
kinda not fair if you not comparing to dds 
And kawa aug can match non mog gun yuudachi in dmg
if you bring hinden and unzen and cbs, then dds kinda just get mostly phased out
so i say it's 50/50 it's fair because it's vanguard spot, but it's also not fair because it's not comparing to dds
Good lord. The more I learn, the more some of this is like a foreign language.
take your time
If i add more girl in dorm, does it make their morale slower to increase?
No
Alright, thanks 
btw can the 2nd floor increase my comfort level ?
I’m torn in a bunch of different directions. I need to finish farming Ägir CDC. But that requires my underleveled IB vanguard, Roon, Z23, and Emden.
i think you get a flat boost to comfort once
But I also need to farm enough coins to dev30 FdG, while simultaneously trying to level and farm exp for other ships. Not enough oil and I STILL haven’t started OpSi
im at 77% exp bonus now
i mean take it slowly, you aren't in the place to speed run cdc
just lving up slowly more on dorm for your 3 IB vanguard
then when they ready you can do more cdc in higher stage
So far I’m able to carry them through 12-1. Roon is 120. But Emden and Z23 are like 99 and 96.
that's enough for 12-1
Is there a double retrofit mats event going on rn? Gold retro Feels unusually high this week
u can do all of this tbh
not like doing one of them prevents the other one
do a couple of runs on 12-1 then go do opsi
gets u gold for FdG, xp for agir grind then u have time to do opsi while their morale recovers
This is what I’ve been doing. Right now I’m farming the event. But I’m also burning through all of my oil pretty quickly, and I’ve got a gearing issue that I need to figure out.
Just realized my lvl105 Vanguard has just shy of the same power as my 125 NJ.
Power is a useless metric to measure a ships strength
gear will always be an issue early on but u can have a poverty setup easily that does the job well
what is the gearing issue
if u want help open a thread
compose the gear boxes until you get them to purple, then open the purple ones, you can get quite a lot of poverty gear that way
The gearing issue is I don’t know what I’m doing. And I definitely think I’m clearing content right now because of URs being fairly sizable stat sticks.
It becomes evident when I try to do EX content.
I guess I can drop a thread. It’s less of help and more of an intervention that’s needed lmao
And I’ve had a few peeps try to help before, but telling me what to put on didn’t fix my understanding of why I was putting on certain gear.
I was given the fish, but failed to learn how to fish which is my fault and my responsibility.
What armor is chapter 13
yes (mob has all armors, the bosses are medium, except 13-4 boss which is heavy)
Chat is the Brennus bug still there?
Fixed
Decided to play opsi again. Is there an easier way to view the gear on your current ships and how to change fleets
couple of things
EX event is just b.s
dont use it to gauge anything. the boss gets infinite stats or sth and u need to manual to beat it
for gearing if u want help open a thread
If u want to know how to fish check out sam's equip guide
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment
it tells u what gear is good
however if u want to understand why certain gear is ranked so high I am afraid it is not very clear and your best bet is to ask here in discord. there is a lot of factors that go into determining why a certain piece of gear is better than others
overtime you will learn what to look for
- you can tap and hold the ship's icon on the left of the screen to view their gear
- go to a port node, then use order>fleet deployment
(the first part works basically anywhere the game displays a ship's face)

The one with more rld
preferably neither, though your left one is likely better
i agree with just more rld. they're both not great, but... optimizing cats isn't really important. usually.

