gameplay-help

[plain saffron]

yes, it resets monthly

[night sun]

thanks

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm if I switch Ah shan into main, can I still switch he into vanguard?

[tame jungle]

Iirc you can repurchase the node in her retrofit table to switch modes

[jaunty vault]

yes

[plain saffron]

it's toggle yes

[forest palm]

not like people use DDG as Main Fleet, so you could if you wanted to ignore the node entirely

[plain saffron]

i do

[ornate narwhal]

who should i put the table on?

[weak turret]

Once I get enough BP for all PR4 ships (minus Marco Polo) should I keep it as priority to try to get another tenrai or should I swap priority to say PR5, 6 or7?

[forest palm]

move to 5

[weak turret]

Ok thx

[undone plover]

rossiya for now

[strange sphinx]

Come on give me 1 bp of CA gun

[ornate narwhal]

should i continue to grind the event? i have lit 0 event currency and i only bought the table

[whole crypt]

milestones good
prints also good if you still working on PR4
chips and arrays good

[undone plover]

I would
there is more useful things u can get

[teal lance]

just got prinz eugen from logins , is she good?

[whole crypt]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[ornate narwhal]

ok what should i go for? oh yea also i got the sr from tix

[teal lance]

im already using that website, but prinz eugen is ssr, and unicorn and the rest are only purple

[ornate narwhal]

don’t go for tix?

[whole crypt]

rarity != good

[undone plover]

if u like jervis u can get her as well but she is a bit expensive

[ornate narwhal]

i already got her using tix

[whole crypt]

if you still need to build they're good, but not vital if you already have the ships

[ornate narwhal]

i only have Vanguard and Jervis

[undone plover]

tickets are fine if u wanna get em. they are cheap and a free build is a free build
could give u a vanny dupe who knows

[whole crypt]

you don't really need the rest, they're nice to have but you're not missing much
also even with the tickets you're not guaranteed to get them anyway

unless you're feeling lucky and want someone from permanent heavy pool

[ornate narwhal]

so i should keep grinding the event and wait to do story?

[whole crypt]

the campaign isn't going anywhere, the main reason to progress campaign is just to help XP grind anyway if you're not up to ch12 yet

[ornate narwhal]

i’m on chapter 3…

[whole crypt]

but event takes precedence because rewards exist

[ornate narwhal]

ok

[forest palm]

just gonna roll into the next event either way, but it is a chill one

[wary timber]

So uh where can I get more t3 battleship retrofit stuff if I've already done my hardmode runs again

[forest palm]

HM is the best place

[wary timber]

Where else is the question

[forest palm]

Medal shop but that's a waste of resources, and you could cope for the guild shop

[wary timber]

I ran out of medals getting PR ship BPs.

[forest palm]

again what can be bought is the Medal Shop is not worthwhile

specifically talking about the Retro BPs

[wary timber]

I can grind more from spamming event

[forest palm]

you are heavily gated to HM

[undone plover]

meta dossiers can also give some
but it is rng

[tame jungle]

you just do hard mode every day and boom you will have enough
at a certain point you get so many prints it won't even matter, just be patient and diligent

[whole crypt]

highest chapter of hard mode you can run -3 of reliably

and then you just do it 3 times a day and wait

[wary timber]

... I better check which map drops those before I go to the wrong one

[whole crypt]

the highest you can comfortably do out of 3-3, 4-3, 5-3, 6-3, 7-3, 8-3, 9-3. 10-3, 11-3, 12-3 and 13-3

[wary timber]

I'll probably do 11-3

[solid delta]

does sortie auto cost gems to buy oil

[willow junco]

there is no way, i got 2 more 💀

i got 4 vanguard in 45 pulls

[tame jungle]

#trophy-room

[sharp socket]

dont buy oil with gems

[left cedar]

seens like someone buy oil with gem cuz ENing hard

[solid delta]

idk what happened and wtf 500 gems evaporated into oil???

[sharp socket]

oh lord

[left cedar]

another Level of ENing so fucking hard

[atomic abyss]

Less EN-ing
More fat fingering

[novel condor]

Ender wat

[atomic abyss]

Ok buddy, #trophy-room please

[left cedar]

once ur Oil its done the message that appears during sorties its pretty much like "Dock full" or "low morale warning", if u dont read wut its saying u will keep buying oil

[willow junco]

yeah sorry

[atomic abyss]

I mean most people accidentally buy oil with gems by fat fingering

Rather than failing to read

[solid delta]

???????!?!?!?!?!

AHHHHHHHHHHHH

[left cedar]

i already did several times cuz ENing
the thing is, splited among 5y of playing ...

[atomic abyss]

[solid delta]

only en does that?

[urban grail]

it'll prompt u and ask if u want to buy oil with gems whenever u ran out

[sharp socket]

its an old meme about EN players unable to read

[left cedar]

probally CN and JP have the same thing, the joke about EN its cuz plp around here dont read game things

[slender heart]

Opposite colored is divergent chessboard right?

[atomic abyss]

Yes

[solid delta]

i didn't even click?????

[left cedar]

u sure ?

[solid delta]

like i bought 6 times? i aint doing that

[sharp socket]

it doesnt auto buy oil

you must have clicked it by accident, but 6 times sounds kinda crazy

[solid delta]

im doubting

[atomic abyss]

Gems don't just disappear randomly

[solid delta]

if its associated with something on the ipad, my phone

and its literal plastic, yeah it doesn't trigger the screebn

[atomic abyss]

[solid delta]

great im getting mentally sane

[left cedar]

its trully looks like dock full warning or low morale warning, and thats why i did it in 5y of playing the same shit sometimes (around 6 in 5y ...) mostly cuz i'm done something else at same time

[finite crag]

yep yep definitely your ipad is causing all this

[atomic abyss]

Like I said you almost certainly accidentally spent it somewhere

[solid delta]

it shwos you bought it 6 times today

and in my memory i only seen low morale warnings all the time

[left cedar]

maybe buying something that cost gems in shops ?
expanding academy slots or idk ...

[solid delta]

time to ask my brother

[sharp socket]

i only did it once because i doubleclicked after my phone turned off and it asked me to connect back into the game

[keen sable]

Low morale and no oil kind of go hand in hand. Kids this is why you don't push your morale like that

[whole crypt]

just swap members and keep grinding

[sharp socket]

push it smartly #gameplay-help message

[left cedar]

probally the thing its just this the problem, he wanna grind infinitly and buy oil with gems

[civic crag]

Uh how do I know if a gun is high caliber

[left cedar]

283 or bigger
to be literal, its 280 or bigger, but the smaller in game its 283

[civic crag]

CB gun btw

What 283

[shell willow]

283mm

[civic crag]

Oh sick mine is 305 thanks

[whole crypt]

this is the "smallest" high calibre gun for CB skills

[civic crag]

Unrelated, other than commissions, how the FUCK do I get more oil

I alr cleared the event shop send help like Fr Fr

[whole crypt]

wait for regen, free weekly pack, missions

newbie missions has a bunch if you haven't done them

[civic crag]

Wait actually if I’m just grinding vanguard xp do you think I only need unicorn as a back liner

[whole crypt]

that doesn't help your oil cost unless you're grinding some place shit

[left cedar]

touching the grass to Hours keep producing your oil ...
some daillys give u oil
events shops generally have oil
and thats is it

[civic crag]

Why

[left cedar]

we live in Oil Cap days, just take advantage of it and farm in 12-1 or some shit higher that that lvling 6 ships to get more effectivle oil cost

[whole crypt]

because oil cost cap exists from ch9+

[civic crag]

Oh yeah but like

Wait what’s the oil cap

[atomic abyss]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[sharp socket]

/oilcap

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[whole crypt]

mob fleet costs 39 oil a fight in 12-1, good luck making a 4-ship fleet that costs less than that

[civic crag]

Fuck

Does high eff plan double oil cap

[finite crag]

it doubles the amount of oil you use

[whole crypt]

yes it doubles everything

[left cedar]

quite hard do that ... and if he manage to do, probally it will bare live to reach end

[civic crag]

Yikes

[whole crypt]

it even doubles your morale spent

[sharp socket]

you just spend twice the oil, twice the morale for twice the reward rolls in the same time it takes without

[whole crypt]

HELPs are just for time compression

[sweet merlin]

did they change the pop up box style?

[finite crag]

i think your game is just fucked

[sharp socket]

the thing it doesnt double is affinity gain

[whole crypt]

it's not hard if the main fleet is unicorn and the 3 vanguards are not absolute rubbish

but it won't cost less than 39

[sweet merlin]

is agir a good off-tank?

[left cedar]

u get it them ...

not much since off-tank dosnt take much dmg as tanker pos, and she dosnt contribute much aside be chonky

[wind hazel]

pretty sure it does

[humble iris]

Is formidable good

[sweet merlin]

i mean, i already have ancorage in the tank pos

[tender lotus]

What fleet Ognevoy can fit? I saw she can be used in w15 mob but i forget what the composition

[sharp socket]

does it now, i heard it doesnt from some guy with a billion oaths

[wind hazel]

it does

[whole crypt]

it does and it always did

[humble iris]

I saw formidable on tier 1 tho in the tier list

[left cedar]

mostly of times u use a Off-tank for a 2nd reason, like buffing something in ur Main ... no reason to use Agir in Off-Tank

[wind hazel]

the only thing it doesn't double is the ship counter in WA

[whole crypt]

it doesn't double any mission counters

[sweet merlin]

ah. so what should i do if i have a sqishy ship in my comp?

[sharp socket]

place them in the middle

[civic crag]

Tier 1 comes after tier 0 and tier EX

[whole crypt]

she's just a decent mobbing DD but I wouldn't really recommend her for 15

[left cedar]

ok, Agir do Armor Break, but that makes her a ideal tank for BBs Fleets, and Ancho generally goes into CV Fleets, in some campaign maps Agir isnt much recommended cuz high TRP DMG

[finite crag]

make anchorage off tank then?

[plain saffron]

It's because you're using linux
Jk aside try repair assets

[left cedar]

idk wut is ur fleet, even less wut u have, so hard to recommend something

[finite crag]

i mean agir whole thing is that she tanks really fucking good

so why relegate her to just being an off tank??

[sweet merlin]

soyuz, indy, uni, ancorage, laff2, rikka

[whole crypt]

Anchorage is also a great main tank, the point is why do you need 2 tanks to need one for offtank

[humble iris]

Is a triple tank fleet good or is it plain stupid

[plain saffron]

does it

[left cedar]

that seens ... strange fleet, wut are u doing with it ?

[plain saffron]

nice internet lag

[left cedar]

it work ... but its dumb

shit, wrong answer

[whole crypt]

I think nagami is responding to something much longer ago

[plain saffron]

anyway hard to know if affinity is doubled when even the normal affinity is already rng

[left cedar]

it work, but its dumb

[sharp socket]

with 2 tanks you can put a good squishy ship in the middle

[whole crypt]

you don't need 2 full tanks to sandwich a squishy

[humble iris]

I mean agir is super strong so I feel like it works?!

[south sequoia]

You have to take into account vanguard dps, vanguard utility

you could have 3 cbs together and tanking and sponging every hit but would those 3 cbs deal damage like hindenburg, would they bring utility like plymouth and helena?

[whole crypt]

you don't even need 2 tanks at all to sandwich a squishy

[civic crag]

Is this enough to beat 14-4 boss

[sharp socket]

for boss youd like to squish helena between 2 tanks, while for mob you can get away with main tank and a dd for offtank

[left cedar]

idk about calling Agir super strong ... in general use she does less if compared to Helena ... or less than Ply ... and the shitty goes around

[whole crypt]

if that's Eugen I'd say get a better tank

[left cedar]

why Sandy ? W14 its all about Main fleet being smelted

[south sequoia]

either eugen would explode in 14-4 swap her out

[civic crag]

Oh yeah I’m changing eugen to agir

[whole crypt]

Sandy is fine though

[left cedar]

Eugen works fine ...

can be better options, yes, but she does the job quite gud

[whole crypt]

Sandy with aug and retrofit does decently, though personally I'd put her in mob because she also fulfills ASW

[civic crag]

I’m regretting not pulling unzen rn tbh

[whole crypt]

Eugen won't die, she just does no damage to help

[south sequoia]

well sandy would be a good gun dps option now in regards to her augment module, but I'd prefer it if she was in mob, bot if she cant squeeze in there then she can be fine in boss

[whole crypt]

and vanguard damage is a key part of 14

[civic crag]

I have a laffey 2 I can try to max, can I fit her there somehow

[tender lotus]

I saw this on jimmy's video
I can't read Japanese
Who's she?

[south sequoia]

Ehh how about we take this into a thread and see both fleets, that fleet is inherently fine on its own but would need a bit of manualling to get by, but it won't hurt to see if there would be options better than her

[whole crypt]

Lung Wu

[tender lotus]

What's her role?

[civic crag]

How make

[south sequoia]

sitting still and looking pretty

but I guess if we were to stretch it a bit she has a bit of healing for your fleet

Lung wu doesn't really... do much

so probably just a random waifu choice by jimmy

[south sequoia]

Are you in pc or mobile

[tender lotus]

I see

[civic crag]

Tablet

Oh wait

[tender lotus]

Go to thread> tap + and here you go

[civic crag]

14-4 fleet help

[whole crypt]

I'm pretty sure the new DDs from this year's CNY are all cosmetic units

[signal leaf]

does the wolf pack skill still apply if the other IB SS's dont have it

[left cedar]

w8 4 her retrofit making her extremelly shit stronger than 99% of the ships

[whole crypt]

yes which is why U47 fits in a wolfpack

[tender lotus]

I'm mistaken lung wu for ognevoy

[signal leaf]

alright cool

[whole crypt]

Ognevoy is T0 in comparison

[tender lotus]

She's suitable as minor healer right?

[whole crypt]

I've never considered her for healing so

[tender lotus]

So she's good for her barrage?

[whole crypt]

from what I've heard yes

[tender lotus]

Okay thx then

[dusk maple]

Excellent barrage 👌

[broken pivot]

if i am going to switch NJ out with Soyuz, do i need a NP backline for the buff?

[slender heart]

She's fine without

[sweet merlin]

what to do with all this after clearing out the shops?

[whole crypt]

nothing, you just keep collecting more for vouchers next month, and if you keep it up you usually just end up with excess vouchers as well

[worldly pewter]

are u done from all the opsi content ?

[sweet merlin]

yes

[worldly pewter]

915 seems like someone didn't do strongholds

[sharp socket]

maybe he bought meta shop aswell

[sweet merlin]

it was 1600 before. this s after byout

[worldly pewter]

how much voucher will u get next month ?

[whole crypt]

I'm sure you could have gotten more

[worldly pewter]

yeah that should be the normal amount after getting everything hence why i was asking about this

[sweet merlin]

4184

[sharp socket]

is this after clearing all the explorable

[sweet merlin]

i set my auto settings to auto exchange

[wind hazel]

it's fine, nobody cares you got 800 or 2k

[sweet merlin]

and myserious mechants too

[wind hazel]

you gonna end up with extra anyway after buying stuff from shop during month change

[whole crypt]

even with auto exchange it shouldn't go down by that much but shrug, as long as you have enough vouchers

scamcat is great for buying tokens

[sweet merlin]

time to do arbiters... the hardest boss itn the game

[worldly pewter]

didn't u say yes here or u didn't understand my question ?

[sweet merlin]

i forget that boss in the middle of the map was counted

[whole crypt]

they don't give tokens though, they just give exchange items that count for vouchers

[worldly pewter]

well it will give u a good amount of vouchers but i think most likely u have missed so many dailies and overcapped ap for a long time this month

[wind hazel]

[whole crypt]

it's not a huge deal as long as you clear up your shop and special zones

more is nice but not essential

[sweet merlin]

does the arbiter give mats for gear

[sweet merlin]

why is there a 0% section?

[shell willow]

you get that when you kill boss

[whole crypt]

that's what you get for beating arb/harb, the % is the HP milestones needed for the rewards

[sweet merlin]

oh. thought it was the drop chance

[whole crypt]

the drops are fixed

[timid moon]

Unzen or Bismarck which is more worth?

[frank pulsar]

bismarck without a doubt

[tame jungle]

bis2

[frank pulsar]

though you should prob finish vanguard right after bismarck, dont partially lb ships next time

wait you have a dupe, just lb vanny first and finish bis2 after

[timid moon]

ok ok

ty

[sweet merlin]

can i fight arbiter as may times i want?

[undone plover]

The normal one u can leave and heal
The hard one u cannot

After defeating the hard arbiter u can fight it as many times as u want but it will only give rewards once

The normal arby rewards are one time only but I dont even think u can defeat it more than once

[sweet merlin]

so he hard one are like harbiters?

[slender heart]

Harbiter is hard arbiter

[cobalt rapids]

hard arbiter, harbiters for short yea

[sweet merlin]

oh then what are the siren bosses on maps called?

[worldly pewter]

harby also

abyssal

[forest palm]

there's all this wild ops lore if you read the story, and shit, crazy I know

[sweet merlin]

why does harbiter give worse loot than arbiter

[iron meteor]

is it fine to have musashi as flag?

[rain vine]

yes

[wind hazel]

think of arbiter as main goal and harbiter as extra bonus

[forest palm]

accessibility, they want low entry so all players can benefit

[sweet merlin]

but nautally harbiter should give more loot

[forest palm]

not really

[rain vine]

i dont think you would want harbiter giving better loot as a newbie

[tame jungle]

then EX stages should give more loot than SP stages too right?

[forest palm]

a lot of AL game design is low entry accessibility when it comes to rewards

[tame jungle]

harbiter is a bit more of a flex thing + a nice amount of vouchers

[plain saffron]

They design it so almost everyone gets all the good things with tryhard getting more stuff but not that important

[plain saffron]

They should make it gives a lot of cog chips and make it scale of the score

[sweet merlin]

also what are those yellow things in capsules

[jaunty vault]

click on them

they give opsi vouchers

[pale niche]

Did HIT stats used to be hidden on EN or am I misremembering?

[frank pulsar]

used to be hidden yea

[pale niche]

Are there any hidden stats left?

[sweet merlin]

what are hit stats

[inland shoal]

The hit stat is the hit or accuracy stat

[slender heart]

Ghost gun stat

[jaunty vault]

weapon coefficient

[worldly pewter]

planes too ?

[jaunty vault]

i dont remember planes having a weapon coefficient

[worldly pewter]

no i mean slots

[atomic abyss]

Is volley time hidden? Yes right

[jaunty vault]

its not hidden but more difficult to find
technically

[balmy matrix]

What gun should I use for fdg for mobbing?

[jaunty vault]

twin457

[balmy matrix]

Use twin instead triple?

[jaunty vault]

depends on the gun and not how many barrels it has

twin457 is arguably the best mob gun for almost any BB

[forest palm]

457 is a fast firing shelling gun that works well at disposing mobs as quickly as possible, simple

[balmy matrix]

I mean for utilize the skills

[atomic abyss]

[jaunty vault]

i do not understand that question?

[forest palm]

the 457 can also act as a barrage gun

[plain saffron]

so the ship equip slots shown ingame?

[atomic abyss]

I don't think there's any skill that specifically asks for a double or triple barrel gun

If they do, it's for a specific gun like Jean Bart or KGV

[balmy matrix]

I mean the skill something like odd numbered salvo or even numbered

[worldly pewter]

yeah how many planes in the slots

[atomic abyss]

Completely irrelevant to the gun

[slender heart]

For fdg mobbing, just shoot

[plain saffron]

ouh that one, yeah no way other than reading MLB text and retrofit text(reminder unicorn retro text are still WRONG)

they have 2 separate text for on retro and after retro. and they only fix one of them. before anyone tell me to do bug report i did on launch day

[jaunty vault]

do bug report

[soft raft]

Smol indie studio pls understand

[balmy matrix]

So it's refer to the MGM?

[rain bobcat]

is this right

[soft raft]

BZ's gonna get desynced quite easily
AFCT/HSFCR skill effect only works for 1 load

[atomic abyss]

It's referring to each time she fully reloads

[cedar beacon]

Hello 😄
Noob player here (2 weeks playing, lv 41) and I'm a bit lost. At moment I'm trying to build fleets based on the cool factor but I would love to have help on fleet building.

Can I ask about it here?

[rain bobcat]

been using mushi zwei soyuz for a while since I forgot vg did more overall dmg, soyuz there is actually still slower than zwei

[soft raft]

Give these a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleetbuilding

[finite crag]

slap a hsfcr on each one of them and call it a day

[rain bobcat]

all 200 aff, soyuz skill lands right when zwei's first salvo hits the enemy since they reload roughly the same time

[rain bobcat]

soyuz desyncs with fcr, she's too slow

[cedar beacon]

I will take a read, ty

[steady beacon]

Is this for CM

[slender heart]

I feel like vanguard will shoot last with this setup

[rain bobcat]

trying to find smth that will work on all medium bosses cm and opsi

[whole crypt]

soyuz should basically have same timing as BisZwei unless separated by oath
I'd put soyuz gun on VG to slow her down instead

[finite crag]

not nearly as much of an issue as you think it is

soyuz is like half a second behind bis2

[steady beacon]

I have no idea how long the sync holds for CM because battles longer than 5 rotations bore me
But at least for OpSi
Champ gun Vanguard --> Flan gun Soyuz --> Soy gun Bismarck works just fine

All with radar + shell

[rain bobcat]

vg too slow without radar?

[slender heart]

For this month cm, she can go without

[whole crypt]

is that spaced out to avoid jamming or something, champagne gun on VG and soyuz gun on BisZwei sounds like pretty big gap

[steady beacon]

It's like 3s difference by fourth rotation
Which is acceptable enough in my book

You're going to be doing most of your damage in first two rotations anyway

[whole crypt]

well it's enough for everything that's not CM, and CM depends on how long you drag anyway

I may or may not be considering whether to invest in a flandre gun

[patent pivot]

Full champ/soygun are actually rather close so it's completely viable to skip

[forest palm]

Amazon, and Yuubari are the only VG with an xp skill, right?

[steady beacon]

Ye, honestly
Unless you're deadset on perfect sync order and min-maxing against medium specifically
Just triple Champ or double Champ + Soy, ignore the whole order, and the difference is a margin of error when all is said and done

[whole crypt]

technically Nurn has an EXP skill but it's not for vanguards...

[forest palm]

figured, so no way to speed up Halford, or Bayard

[keen sable]

Quite the opposite. Vanguard is too fast and the only way to keep sync is to block her behind a slower bb that used afct to jump ahead

[rocky fjord]

so these are UR slow rocket fighters from pr7?

[steady beacon]

Yes

[rocky fjord]

i cant remember the comparison numbers, how are the converging tbs

[steady beacon]

Strongest and slowest

[flat ruin]

How can i change ships in Operation siren with different ships

[forest palm]

this is paper testing of course, but it's a basis, so expect a more thorough understanding when people start to physically get it

[rocky fjord]

did people already sus out the best equip implacable fleets

[jaunty vault]

click on order on the minimap -> fleet deployment (first option)

[steady beacon]

Probably tbh
But I'd wait until practical tests are available before settling on anything

[flat ruin]

Thanks, i keep clicking the formation tab

[rocky fjord]

that's true, very few people's CVs are faster than 20s

[steady beacon]

Also thank God for 80 CV RLD

[rocky fjord]

is that with best cats

[jaunty vault]

boomer

its with RLD cats

[steady beacon]

... Didn't you start earlier than me, cooper

[forest palm]

I got lazy with cats lol

[jaunty vault]

idk, cad started earlier than me and he doesn't know how its possible

[rocky fjord]

because ive hiatused for months now

[jaunty vault]

years

[rocky fjord]

im barely logging in to catch UR events

[jaunty vault]

same

[whole crypt]

I only do sub-20s CVs for META 4-strikes so cats and slow planes need not apply

[forest palm]

ya I don't think cats have been that impactful, or relevant outside of subs

[jaunty vault]

i think they're impactful but not worth the investment

[whole crypt]

abyssals are a joke anyway and arbs... shrug arbs

[steady beacon]

Well, when you can force Skyraider Yorktown under 20s, I'd say that's impactful

[whole crypt]

I might do sub-20s for arbs if it's shield, but I don't do it with Skyraider or Tenrai or the like

[forest palm]

like if you could use Cats in Meta fights, I'd give a fuck, but since you can't, there's really not much impact for them

[whole crypt]

but the thing is I don't even use a CV fleet anymore

[steady beacon]

What even would cats do in META fights

[whole crypt]

my "CV fleet" is my mob fleet if I need it to wrap up the shelling resistant portion of harb

[forest palm]

🤏 a bit more consistency, and leeway in comps

[whole crypt]

cats can't be used in showdowns so cat RLD timing is not relevant

[steady beacon]

Actually might stabilise Rice's comp
Which would be meaningful
Oh well

[whole crypt]

Wichita is only going to be done for another 30 days or so anyway

[forest palm]

yup, and since cats can't be used in Meta fights I cbf to care about them past 2 SSR Lv 30 cats

[whole crypt]

just give up on using CV fleets

[steady beacon]

Imagine giving up on the easy way

[forest palm]

when you shove enough Rainbows at your problems it tends to get solved rather easy

[rain bobcat]

what event was the blackhole gun skins in

[forest palm]

[cinder bloom]

Was a battlepass

[rain bobcat]

[manic gazelle]

Is Mogador any good

[tame jungle]

yes

[manic gazelle]

[soft raft]

Yes but relatively low prio to MLB

[night pumice]

does not having vanguard cripple me in endgame content and opsi or are there other alternatives to her

[forest palm]

cripple, not really, alternatives, none really

[atomic abyss]

She is far from mandatory
Although not having her does hurt your BB comps
It means you kinda are stuck running Bis Zwei, Alsace, Soyuz

[soft raft]

You either just bruteforce with moar UR BB for damage or if you still want the utility she brings, at best Alsaceo (or Duke Of York if you can get her timing down right)

[atomic abyss]

Alsace does have some support capabilities after all

[forest palm]

I honestly don't think Dork's RDPS makes up for how shit she is these days

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't imo

[soft raft]

true

[manic gazelle]

What's the best anti-heavy BB comp rn in OS

[atomic abyss]

BZ, Vanny, Musashi

[night pumice]

ah. so I guess I don't have to worry about not having her then, I only have a single UR BB (alsace)

[soft raft]

Vanguard would still be in the comp for META fights right
Since those are often longer fights

[atomic abyss]

If you only have Alsace, not having Vanny hurts you massively lol

[manic gazelle]

What about for lights?

[night pumice]

oh. well, shit lol

[atomic abyss]

Replace Musashi with Alsace for light

[manic gazelle]

Aight

[forest palm]

how far off from pity are you

[night pumice]

40 pulls, but I'm out of cubes

[manic gazelle]

Ig I'll mlb Unzen then Mogador

[finite crag]

💳

[night pumice]

gacha luck hasn't exactly been kind to me lately, I hit pity for alsace on the last day of her event

[atomic abyss]

Like, that means you're stuck running Alsace, FdG and Vanny ideally

If you miss Vanny well yeah that hurts

[finite crag]

especially with only 40 pulls away ouch

[undone plover]

There is a few cubes in WA and opsi explo rewards but not enough for 40 pulls I am afraid

[manic gazelle]

How good is Unzen btw

[finite crag]

pretty good

[atomic abyss]

All the gacha URs are pretty good tbh

[livid thunder]

Hi I just wanted to ask if there’s a bug with the mail function. I claimed 3 mails (9000 oil) and none of it actually showed up in the reserve

[finite crag]

mail has its own storage

[livid thunder]

Whut ?

[livid thunder]

Oh ok XD

I don’t know it existed I just came back to the game after months offline

[woeful laurel]

are there vanguard ships who can heal the whole fleet?

[slender heart]

Algerie META

[frank pulsar]

algerie heals just 100 hp no? thats less than 1% hp for even low hp pools like dd

like, per proc

[sweet delta]

DDs have over 10000 HP?

[eternal moth]

What about San Fran? I don't remember her heal numbers

[sweet delta]

Not fleet heal

[eternal moth]

Vanguard only?

[woeful laurel]

prolly 85hp because of the 15hp upfront cost

[frank pulsar]

wait am i dented

nvm it 4.25% heal assuming 2k hp
for backline it just ~1.4% assuming 6k hp

my brain is rotting

[woeful laurel]

hmmm... okay so who's the best vanguard slot vanguard-healer, if not whole fleet healer?

[sweet delta]

Best healing alone or best ship with healing ? And best depends on the fleet and enemy anyways

[frank pulsar]

shld be either san fran or brest im not sure

[woeful laurel]

purpose is basically using all 3 main fleet ships for shipyard exp, so i won't be using unicorn, i guess

[eternal moth]

Why do you need a healer in the vanguard?

You don't need Uni to farm XP

[soft raft]

that shouldnt be a issue for W12
People like Cheeky have grinded it easy with purely tech shitters

[frank pulsar]

if it just farming in like 12-4 or smth it fine to run a full fleet of shitters, just make sure you gear properly

[woeful laurel]

i was planning 13-4

[sweet delta]

plan to 12 then

[frank pulsar]

i dont recommend 13-4 unless youre doing it for coin

[eternal moth]

This group was able to beat 13-4 on safe, you shouldn't have any issues on 12-1 or 12-4

[woeful laurel]

how come? doesn' 13-4 give more of those cog chips?

[sweet delta]

If you want the best chips then farm X-1 not X-4

[frank pulsar]

its much harder than 12-4, youre basically forced to give up at least one slot for a carry like sandy, uni, etc

[soft raft]

13-4 is also more difficult and iirc gives no gray plates

[woeful laurel]

i didn't know about the gray plates, good point there. so 13-1?

[soft raft]

Just farm 12-4

[eternal moth]

Do 12-1/12-4 instead. The difficulty spike isn't worth what you're trying to do

[woeful laurel]

yeah, since i'm getting shipyard exp for main fleet, was thinking of full carry vanguard. but since everyone is pushing for 12, i guess there's not much merit for 13 then if so

[frank pulsar]

youre wasting an entire vanguard worth of exp if you do that

[woeful laurel]

i don't mind. im trying to save up on cog chips anyway

[eternal moth]

Yep. Part of the reason I'm running the fleet I am while farming for Napoli is still getting main fleet XP in addition to the vanguard

[frank pulsar]

i will never understand how ppl run out (i have 30k and i farm everyday)

[covert dust]

where can i request an emaill change for my account?

[woeful laurel]

probably spending it faster than i can gain cogs

[frank pulsar]

try asking in #tech-support or contacting cs

[viscid swift]

well, typically people who run out are those who level at least 6 ships at a time, 12 is regular for me at this point until I finally run out of main fleets period to level

[sweet delta]

30k can be burned quite quickly when one has 150 ships waiting for chips

[eternal moth]

Turns out when you're burning 1k at a time it goes pretty quickly.

[slender heart]

Dead week after maint?

[soft raft]

nope

[slender heart]

[soft raft]

#game-news message

[silk helm]

would yall use the blueprints to get agir or retrofit sandy?

[grizzled wave]

hello can someone explain what syncing means when timing BB volleys? also I was curious what order should my volleys shoot for maximum damage output

[eager mulch]

sync means to shoot around the same time to maximize buff order, actual order depends on your ships

[slender heart]

Are you pushing campaign or getting stronger opsi fleet?

[grizzled wave]

@eager mulch ahh okay well my boss fleet will likely consist of NJ, UvH, and Vanguard and i have the UR HE gun, UR AP gun, and the gold triple 406mm/50 main gun which is the AP gun you can get from protocores

[eager mulch]

the guns you use depends on content

[slender heart]

If that's the only gun you have, you probably don't have to worry about syncing

[atomic abyss]

there's honestly no difference
i'd say sandy first since you can actually use her immediately

[grizzled wave]

so syncing doesnt matter too much or?

also what type of gun should fire first? cuz i think HE causes fires and AP causes armor break or something

[atomic abyss]

AP only armour breaks VS heavy

ideally, you don't even mix ammo types

[grizzled wave]

ooo okay

i wanted a generalist backline so i wasnt sure if i shud mix ammo

[wide bramble]

Is there a way to tell how much fighter support your CVs give? Like if you have Essex in backline, can you tell how much work she does in the anti-air department

[eager mulch]

a generalist backline is a terrible backline

[grizzled wave]

so depending on boss either triple HE or triple AP?

[atomic abyss]

their avi stat, number of fighters, fighter efficiencies

yes

[wide bramble]

Sorry, I mean in the post-battle screen breakdown

[atomic abyss]

no way to tell

[eager mulch]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ships_by_Airspace_Control_Value

[atomic abyss]

they mean by damage turtle

[grizzled wave]

got it thanks yalls

[wide bramble]

That's tragic... I have her in my exercise fleet to play against other CVs but I was just thinking, the battle ended before she could use her drops so I was like, I wonder what she's doing AA wise xD

[atomic abyss]

...wait does fighter AA even count to end screen damage?
it should right

[wide bramble]

I have no idea, that's why I was curious

[patent pivot]

It does

[atomic abyss]

so essex didn't even do shit

not even in terms of fighter interception

[wide bramble]

Here let me see, this opponent has 2 CV backline

[slender heart]

The one that doesn't register is dot iirc

[atomic abyss]

yeah dot like burns don;t

[wide bramble]

they died before they dropped. unlucky.

[atomic abyss]

essex definitely has decent fighter AA
nothing amazing, but one of the better ones

[wide bramble]

Essex is just best girl so I prefer to use her as my CV whenever possible

holy Akagi

this man is addicted

[atomic abyss]

[atomic abyss]

#al-general for such posts please

[wide bramble]

yeh sorry sorry, got off topic there

So how does fighter AA work? I faced an Aquila and since she pre-loads it was before Essex's drop. Do the fighters only do AA support after she launches?

[atomic abyss]

fighter interception works on a separate cooldown - the cooldown listed when the fighter is equipped

[wide bramble]

those right?

[atomic abyss]

fighters can also intercept when they are launched as part of an airstrike

[wide bramble]

I see, I'm just confused why they never seem to be shooting down planes much, but could be cuase its the pvp exercise mode maybe

[atomic abyss]

because planes in pvp have buffed HP

[wide bramble]

ahhhh

So stop trying to test it in pvp, got it

[atomic abyss]

AA is irrelevant outside w12+

[wide bramble]

ooh

Appreciate that, that makes a lot of sense. I've been farming 11-1 since I got to it for the $ since I've been mostly focused on collecting ships than anything else. I'll move on to 12 and play around with it more

[atomic abyss]

w12 is better for farming anyways

[wide bramble]

oh. I saw a guide that said 11-1 was best oil to gold efficiency, is that no true anymore?

might've been an old one, Idek where it was anymore that Is aw it

[rain vine]

it was never the best for gold/oil

[atomic abyss]

pretty sure it was 13-4 that has the best oil to gold eff

[soft raft]

on paper it's the best oil to XP ratio but most people just farm W12 since it's a nice middle ground between XP and gold without being too difficult

[wide bramble]

Oh that might've been it, exp instead of gold

[atomic abyss]

w11 is harder than w12 after all

[wide bramble]

How's world 13? I want to go farm to finish the Essex class collection

[jaunty vault]

depends on your AA guns

[rain vine]

well, the main reason you farm w12 as opposed to w11 is because of cog chips

[atomic abyss]

w13 is noticeably more difficult without proper AA frontliners

[jaunty vault]

and coins

wouldnt say cog chips is the main reason

[atomic abyss]

sorry, w13 is basically impossible to clear without decent gear

decent, not even good

[jaunty vault]

is that a challenge

[atomic abyss]

i mean cooper, by all means, clear it with blue planes

[wide bramble]

On a scale of 1-10 where is this gear at? (deceny wise)

[hollow gust]

That +12 fighter is depressing but it's pretty solid gear

[rapid grail]

More than enough. Damn, +12 enhance hellcat.

[atomic abyss]

assuming everything is geared as well as this essex, i'd say an 8

[jaunty vault]

thats as decent as decent gets

[hollow gust]

At least you can get the plates back

[rapid grail]

Bataan loves that

[soft raft]

at least those gold plates are refundable when you upgrade it to tigercat

[wide bramble]

I need to get into op siren more for that right? I've been terrified of it cause it looks so complicated

[rapid grail]

it's among the best of the 2x500 lb bomb fighters

if no opsi gaming, which you'll need to get the 2x1000 lb bomb fighters

[atomic abyss]

yes time to get into opsi

[soft raft]

yes
and OpSi is 100% worth it

Alot of the best gear in this game is from gear lab

[wide bramble]

These are my other 2 main backliners but I don't have much in the way of CV powerhouses, aside from Essex

[atomic abyss]

sorry to say, but essex isn't even a CV powerhouse

[rapid grail]

mob fleet does mob fleet duty. 95-98% of content is managed by that
Other 3 fleets include 3 BB, 3 CV, 1 BB 2 CV, crossfleet, whatever. These boss fleets will manage boss threats up and including the hardest Arbiters

[atomic abyss]

even excluding URs

well, not anymore at least

[soft raft]

1 BB 2 CV
*(This is referring to Kearsarge (Who's a BBV not BB)/Yorktown2/AvP
And is also relatively optional

[rapid grail]

BisZwei in mob fleet and NJ in boss fleet sounds good. The other 4 backline slots between the two fleets you fit in Unicorn Retro on the mob fleet and whatever decent and better CV/Ls you have.

[atomic abyss]

CV powerhouses that aren't UR would be like
Enterprise, Saratoga, Independence Retro, Unicorn Retro, Aquila, Volga, August van Parseval

does chkalov count

[soft raft]

Also speaking of this, anyone got the anti-light gearing for this comp?

[wide bramble]

CV wise I have Essex, Enterprise, Unicorn, Painleve and Intrepid. I HAVE Shinano and Hakuryu but they're not limit broken yet

CL wise I have Helena (retro) and Scylla

[slender heart]

Without hvarcats?

[rapid grail]

Yes she counts. However she lacks the intercept from fighters so she's going to be a bit worse than Saratoga retro imo

[atomic abyss]

CVL =/= CL

get independence from core shop and retro her

[soft raft]

doesnt matter, I olnly have 2 but I can adjust from there

[slender heart]

Hvarcats/anti-light fighter, he bb gun, and (personally) i do spearfish on enty

[wide bramble]

Will do

[rapid grail]

one on AvP (use Ju-87 for KMS equip req)
one on Yk2n first slot and bf-109g on the other (iirc she has 342 Loadout, do tell me if is wrong)
mk7 on Kear, imo use Flapjack/Tigercat

[patent pivot]

243 for yk2

[wide bramble]

Oh right for mobbing - How do you guys handle BCs/CA/CL/DDs? Is there a general rule of thumb for them? Torp DDs better at mobbing/bossing? Agir/Hindenburg mobbers/bossers?

(agir/hinden as example, since I have them)

[atomic abyss]

are they even dev 30

[wide bramble]

yes

[soft raft]

Just use good ships (and gear) that fit the content, ez as that
BC, CA,CL, DD? doesnt matter when they all die the same at the end of the day

[elfin hollow]

When working on PR ships whats the best way to farm exp for them?

[atomic abyss]

take 3 relevant ships, go to w12 and level them on mob

[soft raft]

Yall think making a 4th NJ gun for Kear worth it so I can just park it on her without the hassle of having to swap gear around for anti-light BB or nah

[atomic abyss]

if you're rolling in mats sure ig

at that point it's all convenience

[shell willow]

id just save those mats for future additions

[soft raft]

Well i dont really see the possibility of anything using UR Main gun prints being added anytime soon so bet

[cobalt rapids]

where are u u using ur 3 other mk7

[soft raft]

OpSi Anti-light BB

[cobalt rapids]

ure parking gear for 1 fight / 3 months

[patent pivot]

why do you need 2 antilight comps

[eager mulch]

for when the first one doesn’t kill

[crimson glacier]

just carrier it

[jaunty vault]

just swap gear

[eager mulch]

just don’t be bad

[elfin hollow]

Anyone available to help me make some fleets?

[stark quiver]

Looking at my gear situation, what’s the next UR gear I should make

[cobalt rapids]

2nd mk7 for UR blanks
2nd 457 for t3 test reports

[trim path]

is it worth finishing vanguard's pity from 174/200 if i have 804 cubes?

[stark quiver]

Up to you

[soft raft]

do you already have her?

[trim path]

yes

[soft raft]

Then sure if you want to save a UR Bullin
Or you can just keep on saving

[elfin hollow]

these are who I have i also have elites who can retrofit

[trim path]

👍

[soft raft]

If you're gonna ask for fleet building help, do it in a thread to avoid clogging the main channel

[elfin hollow]

okay dokey

[solemn marlin]

A quick technical question: up until now I have been playing Azure Lane on my Huawei MediaTab 5 tablet, but with the incoming Sirius 3d mode, I am now thinking about upgrading my tablet to a newer, stronger model.
Any recommendations in that regard? Something with 8 cores and 250ish gbs of internal memory?

[atomic abyss]

not something that pertains to this channel, maybe ask #al-general or #technology

[undone plover]

Most important recommendation is bind your account before changing device

[stark quiver]

are r3 and r2 zone loggers worth doing?

[cobalt rapids]

r3 yes

[stark quiver]

since the node still appears for r2 stuff, i could just avoid it right?

[cobalt rapids]

uhh not sure what u mean but ignore r2 hiddens yea

[silk sphinx]

Apparently no chance of akashi and returns less than c3 normal or something like that for r2

Sorry yep just for r2

[undone plover]

I can make a free quint mag torp (no selectors)

What was the tldr usage for it?

[cobalt rapids]

quad sidegrade/stagger

[wispy pendant]

i think the quad is better for most ships except for the niche case of you wanting even more spread and more torp stat, like maybe good for Unzen for mobbing.

[undone plover]

sidegrade only at same enhance level right?

[wispy pendant]

right

[forest palm]

if you want to be fancy you could make one, but it won't do much more than a Quad

[undone plover]

these are my +13 torps
worth +13 the quint?
623 torp plates

[silk sphinx]

The new improved quad mag is just better so

[wispy pendant]

do more +13 quads imo

[undone plover]

oh forgot that one
will +13 it for sure

[forest palm]

I think I have like one or two UR Quints +13

[undone plover]

this is the one right?

so 4 gold torps at +13
maybe keep plates for 2 quints? nice mix at 4/2?

[wispy pendant]

don't you want more like 6 golds at 13? do you like swapping gear?

[calm rose]

which quint?

[undone plover]

i dont rly mind swapping gear tbh

[fathom sable]

Do blue G research grants DR?

[wispy pendant]

still, you should want 6 total for two fleets

[wispy pendant]

they can

[undone plover]

isnt mixing the quints better for stagger?

[forest palm]

[wispy pendant]

do you use the ijn ones on auto?

[forest palm]

nope, usually kept it on Odin lol

[wispy pendant]

i don't think i've used odin for years

[calm rose]

the plates needed for a single +13 UR quint is about equal to 3 +13 gold quads, i personally just dump the plates to gold quads. i only have a single quint and have not really used it

[forest palm]

I have a few UR Quint Mags

[tiny kettle]

Which one's a higher priority, Jervis or the ur gear? I have a decent lineup already so I'm thinking of going for gear

[forest palm]

the UR Gear

[undone plover]

UR gear for sure

[tiny kettle]

Alright, thanks

[reef flume]

UR gear. It's the best general use aux

[inland shoal]

So you're saying the quint UR is 3 times as good as gold quad

[wispy pendant]

you really want both, get both

Jervis is replaceable I guess, but she's pretty good

[forest palm]

you really aren't missing much with Jervis tbh

[tiny kettle]

Not enough time sadly

[wispy pendant]

you have like 11 hours

[forest palm]

event ends in like... little under 11 hrs

[wispy pendant]

jervis with j-class crown carried me in w14 lethal... not sure who else is as good or better, but she won my heart

[forest palm]

that Crown is limted...

[tiny kettle]

Yeah but I gotta sleep too. I don't want to pull an all nighter for it

[wispy pendant]

is felix just as good?

[cobalt rapids]

use ply for better better w14 tank

[forest palm]

just dev Halford clearly

[elfin hollow]

what are the best manuel torpedos

[cobalt rapids]

shimatorps

[elfin hollow]

without event base torpedos

[cobalt rapids]

teatorps

[elfin hollow]

can i see a example

like a photo

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Quintuple_Torpedo_Mount_Mk_IX#Type_0-0

[ornate narwhal]

what do these do?

[soft raft]

They're selector BPs that let you choose who's BPs you want

[ornate narwhal]

what does bp do?

[cobalt rapids]

enhance shipyard ships

[soft raft]

they're used to enhance (and limit break) research ships

[cobalt rapids]

i recc reading this https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[ornate narwhal]

how do i get research ships

[soft raft]

read the article that was just linked

[atomic abyss]

given his account is like, a week old at most

[tame jungle]

You’re pretty new right? Just read that article, it’s not really something you should be worrying about right now.

[atomic abyss]

research is something he can ignore

for at least a month

[ornate narwhal]

ok i read the article and am incredibly confused but i’ll figure it out eventually

[atomic abyss]

just ignore for it for a while

[ornate narwhal]

my friend told me to do this and chose whatever one is gold or purple on the missions

[atomic abyss]

yes you will want to select fdg as your first ship but the other advice uhh

[soft raft]

chose whatever one is gold or purple on the
missions
What the flying fuck, no

[ornate narwhal]

oh

[atomic abyss]

but you can't grind her up effectively anyways

[ornate narwhal]

liek i chose the gold one

[cobalt rapids]

which part of the article

[atomic abyss]

gold just means longer usually, doesn't mean better

[wispy pendant]

gold face researches are really slow

[soft raft]

Gold researches are too expensive to be worthwhile

[ornate narwhal]

most of it but i didn’t understand it…im stupid…

[atomic abyss]

like i said

[ornate narwhal]

so which one should i chose

[atomic abyss]

just ignore it for the time being

i.e, don't do research at all for now, because you will run out of coins with a week old account

[cobalt rapids]

u should read research academy and protocore section and ignore shipyard part till you reach w12

[soft raft]

Just ignore it for now
come back to it after you've pushed to like W9-12

[ornate narwhal]

not all of ut cost coins should i do those?

like some of them r free

[cobalt rapids]

yes have research running at all times

even if its free when ure new, u should read about the catchup strategy in the guide

[atomic abyss]

do those that don't cost cubes and coins for now

just have something running with fdg catch up

[ornate narwhal]

and so how do i unlock the one i chose?

[atomic abyss]

that's irrelevant til you reach w12

[ornate narwhal]

oh ok

should i stop the gold one and chose another one?

[atomic abyss]

let it finish

[tranquil saffron]

Between sandy and Laffey II who's the better candidate for mog gun?

[atomic abyss]

laffey2

sandy can opt for a higher rof gun instead

[tranquil saffron]

Thanks

[ornate narwhal]

also how do i get rid of this exclamation point?

[wispy pendant]

did you click it?

[ornate narwhal]

yes

[wispy pendant]

what's the next page show?

[inland shoal]

You have to develop a ship

[ornate narwhal]

oh

[wispy pendant]

yeah, got to start developing one of those ships

[inland shoal]

But since you probably don't fulfill any of the requirements there's no way rn

[ornate narwhal]

like this?

[inland shoal]

Yeah

[cobalt rapids]

click develop if u wanna get rid of it but ignore cdc till w12

[inland shoal]

Some of the steps in developing are quite expensive though

[ornate narwhal]

what’s cdc?

[inland shoal]

Combat data collection

[cobalt rapids]

the first and fourth missions on the right

[soft raft]

Combat Data Collection
It's the XP Grind portion of research ships

[wispy pendant]

basically don't worry about research or ship research development in general that costs coins or cubes or parts you don't have until later

[ornate narwhal]

ok

[wispy pendant]

follow the newbie guide, once you're farming w12, you'll have a good source of coins, and keeping research going is easy

[tropic tusk]

Among my BB which are worth leveling up?

[merry trellis]

Is Alsace or Vanguard better for BB backline? My other two in the fleet would be NJ and BZ since I don't have any of the others

[wispy pendant]

your URs of course, everyone else kinda pales in comparison, so just level them up as you feel like it for fleet tech

[atomic abyss]

focus UR bulin for Vanguard
dat's about it for now

[cobalt rapids]

replace nj and use both

[wispy pendant]

~~NJ isn't replaceable for me ❤️ ~~

[atomic abyss]

[tropic tusk]

How about after vanguard ,the russian one or the one covering her eyes is better?

[merry trellis]

Aslace and Vanguard bonus damage stacks with each other?

[atomic abyss]

they do
and they effectively have more damage than NJ

[merry trellis]

okay, thanks guys

[polar venture]

Other than catch up is there a consistent way to get blueprints?

[atomic abyss]

for you, alsace first

[cobalt rapids]

research

[wispy pendant]

research

[soft raft]

Research is your main way

[tropic tusk]

Ok thx

[wispy pendant]

also general prints from event shops and monthly shops

if you're talking about ship bp

[polar venture]

Research isn't consistent but ok 🥲

[wispy pendant]

it's as consistent as you're going to get, maybe read the guides to understand it better

[atomic abyss]

research is where most of your BPs will come from

can't run away from it

[tropic tusk]

From my failure experience I will assume Ur getting the free research right?

[polar venture]

If im just doing catch up yes

[soft raft]

So you're saying you've been actively gimping your BP grind...

[tropic tusk]

That's y Ur not consistent getting the BP U need

[wispy pendant]

I think he wants a specific ship to appear on every research done. Only catchup is that consistent.

[tropic tusk]

Up or down for vanguard?

[wispy pendant]

But like catchup implies, it’s only for quickly catching up and it doesn’t take you all the way.

[soft raft]

NJ gun for anti-light
Georgia gun is mainly a mobbing gun

[wispy pendant]

Depends, usually you want champy gin for med/heavy instead of 457

[tropic tusk]

So this one?

[soft raft]

For mobbing yes

[tropic tusk]

How about for boss wht is best

[soft raft]

Boss would be 406 Mk7 or 406 MLE depending on the enemy armor

[tropic tusk]

Is there like a general answer if Im lazy to switch

[wispy pendant]

I use Soyuz gun to slow vanguard down a little

[tropic tusk]

Say I'll just use for W for now

[soft raft]

406 Mk7 for WitchiaM

[wispy pendant]

Lazy will get subpar results.

[tropic tusk]

Cause as of now I'm just getting ready for w13

I am still debating should I push w13 or just keep on farming pr ships

[keen sable]

Just pick whichever rainbow if lazy

[little tree]

IS Witchta Meta a decent Vnaguard i dont see them ranked on the Tier list

[soft raft]

glass cannon, and the typical "Good but better options exist"
And as for the ECTL, they've been quite busy for the past few weeks to update it

[keen sable]

Are you lazy or do you want to clear 13?

[tropic tusk]

Part of me wants to unlock all ship from research part of me wants to push

Been stuck on this stage for like 3month even complete PR4 and pr6

Is there any benefit on going W13+

[cobalt rapids]

gems, collection ships, flex

[tropic tusk]

Oh it gives gems?

[stark quiver]

3 star yes

[atomic abyss]

Campaign has always given gems for 3*-ing

[tropic tusk]

Oh ok I'll start pushing after the coming event then

This whole time I thought getting 3 star just unlocks hard mode

[errant pumice]

guys i started play today i want know if there is someone on banner good to pull or save for next

[keen sable]

Vangood

[little tree]

are DR BP worth getting in Medal shop assuming you have no DR ships built

or is it a bad price medal wise

[shell willow]

in medal shop its very worth

[little tree]

Thanks

[kind needle]

which ships are considered "AA Carries?"

[little tree]

Sandy Cheschire are 2

[keen sable]

Sandy Guam Cheshire shimanto laffii ||isuzu||

I actually have doubts about laffii but w/e

[kind needle]

they say guam can carry my ass in w15, but what's on w15?

idk the contents in it

[keen sable]

Planes, plural

[kind needle]

like the worst w13?

[keen sable]

Planes + everything + more planes

[stark quiver]

a very sad world full of planes, subs, and 2+ bosses per sortie

[keen sable]

13 is kindergarten

[kind needle]

I've been jumping around PR seasons, is that a bad habit or no?

like starting pr7 then go back to 5 then dash to 6

[keen sable]

You can dev whoever you feel like as long you dont mind useless ships taking dock space

[kind needle]

I'm clearing my way to w14, any tips about w14? also what min level do I need to clear to 14-4?

[keen sable]

125

[kind needle]

My ships are around 120 ish, my vanguards are 118ish

[stark quiver]

120 is workable

[keen sable]

What do you have against 125?

[stark quiver]

theyre 125 in 14?

[stark quiver]

subs, take lighthouse asap, suicide botes

[kind needle]

is this where the 155 kai as aux guns kick in?

[worldly pewter]

depends on the ships and depends if u manual or auto i think

[keen sable]

Good ships better

[quartz nest]

Is there any chance Ägir gets fate simulation or can i safely burn her BPs?

[stark quiver]

she will most likely some day

[keen sable]

You can safely burn any bp...

[kind needle]

so d30 agir is good as it is?

[keen sable]

What else are you going to do?

[kind needle]

Kinda doubting since yah I'm stacking bps for her (currently around 20 prints)

[sinful escarp]

Just keep stacking them, they dont take up space anyways

[keen sable]

Bp are not rare items. Coining comes to everyone. It did for fdg

[sinful escarp]

If you have enough for fs then just burn the extras

[remote yarrow]

Vanguard is really good but she's leaving today and I doubt you got many cubes to pull for her so just cope with the tickets you get by playing the event

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips Also you should read this if you haven't yet

[tranquil saffron]

Vanguard gives the whole fleet 10% increased damage right?

[kind needle]

damn

What map gives you the best EXP - Gold?

[keen sable]

12+

[tranquil saffron]

12-1, 12-4, 13-1

[ornate narwhal]

is this worth it?

[soft raft]

just oath whoever's your waifu
tatical oathing is exclusively a whale thing

[ornate narwhal]

oh ok

[remote yarrow]

If you aren't a whale oathing for stats isn't recommended, just oath your waifu

[wispy pendant]

if you aren't a whale, I only oath for stats, because I can't afford other rings

[grizzled wave]

correct me if im wrong but i think so and up to 18% for BB’s?

[remote yarrow]

I think % don't add up like that

[grizzled wave]

oh lol how would you add it then? assuming it stacks

[silk sphinx]

Eh. 18.8% about

[shell willow]

wiki damage formula

[silk sphinx]

I think around that

[grizzled wave]

so i was pretty close lol still thats massive especially with heavy hitting UR bb’s

[silk sphinx]

I mean that’s why she’s still among the top 5

[grizzled wave]

yupppp

[silk sphinx]

Despite having significant less personal damage

[grizzled wave]

def a must for boss fleet

[silk sphinx]

Eh a must is questionable when you have the other top 5 bbs

[grizzled wave]

r u going off of that tier list?

[silk sphinx]

Bismarck and preload alsace are pretty great plus soyuz

Hm? No the older players here don’t rly use the tierlist much

It’s mostly for beginners to get an idea of how good certain ships are and what gear can be good

[ornate narwhal]

what do i spend gems on?

[silk sphinx]

Well are you f2p? If so then I recommend dock after certain specific dorm upgrades

That’s what all f2p players should do tbh

[formal crater]

where do i find collections > memories on the screen

[keen sable]

Little switch arrow left of battle

[formal crater]

thanks

[remote yarrow]

If F2P
3rd or 4th dorm slot + second floor then dock space

If you are gonna spend just do whatever

[silk sphinx]

I don’t think 4th dorm slot is usually recommended

At least personally I don’t rate it very highly

[stark quiver]

4th dorm slot doesnt have much use other than levels/ morale for another 1:1

[remote yarrow]

It's more if you want 2 more slots of passive exp, since 3 on first and second doesn't leave any slots for leveling

But since both 4th slot and 2nd floor cost the same why not point it out just in case

[worldly pewter]

i never regretted the 4th slot

[wispy pendant]

i've not regretted the fifth slot

[keen sable]

That's terrible. Passive exp gains are miniscule

[stark quiver]

ive spent gems on worse

[eager mulch]

I deeply regret the third slot

[tranquil saffron]

Is level 120 fine for w15?

[eager mulch]

depends

nothing is strictly required but if you have less of one thing then your fleet will need to compensate elsewhere

[forest palm]

The level deficit will make it slightly more of a pain

[tranquil saffron]

I didn't think I would have to level up so many ships for w15 but I suppose I should just bite the bullet

[lapis ivy]

Idk if this counts as gameplay help but when the new race queen skins come out do they leave the shop after the 7th?

[eager mulch]

they’ll leave with the event

[lapis ivy]

Shiiiiiiiiii

[stark quiver]

enemies are lvl 130 in w15

[cloud fractal]

What influences affinity? I have Vanguard and FdG cheesing D3 and I’ve had FdG longer, but Vanguard has already surpassed FdG significantly. 95:87

[teal magnet]

Should I develop Gascogne, I have NJ, Vanguard and Nelson retrofit

[stark quiver]

who do u have already from researches?

[shell willow]

for example mvp (iirc it doubles affinity gain)

[teal magnet]

only St. Louis

[stark quiver]

get fdg first

[loud rover]

gascogne only really a pick for her +2 reload at 120

[teal magnet]

don’t got the tech points,

I can get everyone in 1st series and only Seattle and Gascogne in the 2nd

[cloud fractal]

I’m going to have to look at gear then. FdG is 110 and Vanguard is 103. And FdGs skills are more developed too. I don’t feel like Vanny should be getting mvp at all really.

[shell willow]

what about stars?

[stark quiver]

get roon first for the tech

[ornate narwhal]

should i use medals on the shop or building?

[teal magnet]

danke

[stark quiver]

never use medals for building its a scam

[dusk niche]

Is it true that on Black Friday all the skins that aren't available atm become buyable?

[cloud fractal]

Oh? There it is. FdG is dev 27. Missing a star. Vanny is MLB.

[wispy pendant]

up to a certain date, yes

[dusk niche]

Oh man I want the New Jersey summer skin i wasnt able to get it

[wispy pendant]

it's like everything older than 6 months

[ornate narwhal]

which sr ship should i buy

[stark quiver]

idk whos in rotation for you

[teal magnet]

shld I make a ib fleet to farm xp

[ornate narwhal]

bb and dd

[shell willow]

hmm fdg gets last mgm at 25 iirc so the gap shouldnt be that big, it might be gear ig nvm she gets it at 30

[wispy pendant]

what chapter are you in?

[teal magnet]

10

[wispy pendant]

just keep farming till w12 imo, don't worry about research much, unless you can build an IB vanguard without slowing down your progress

[stark quiver]

u can get hood/tirpitz for bb
dont bother with dd

[soft raft]

(With Hood being for mainline use and Tirpitz as Tech fodder for FdG)

[stark quiver]

ah yes, forgot to mention that

[soft raft]

Get Hood first

[ornate narwhal]

where should i grind xp? i’m in chapter 5 rn

[wispy pendant]

z46 is decent and good for ib tech, but can be had from war archives.
le malin and le triumphant is decent for french tech points which you need for some other research ships like brest or fladre or bayard

@ornate narwhal

[ornate narwhal]

ok

what does dds do?

[wispy pendant]

they go "pew pew" and shoot torps, as well as have decent anti submarine

[stark quiver]

destroyer, throw torps at enemy, anti sub gud and evade stuff better than others

[chilly stone]

yo is the morale recovery properly working or is it just me?
I feel as if they lose morale quite quickly even when in the second floor in the dorm

[forest palm]

are you using 2x plans?

[balmy matrix]

Is skypirate high prio for indy TB slot?

[chilly stone]

yeah

Does that decrease it even faster?

[forest palm]

not really a Wyvern will outperform it

[dawn crater]

Do you guys ever run out of cog chips in late game? im a new player and i have a ton of it

[forest palm]

2x plans double all the negatives as well, so you're losing twice the morale each run

[balmy matrix]

Don't have any wyvern

[chilly stone]

Ahh, gotcha.
Arigathanks

[soft raft]

Think of the 2x plans as doing 2 runs at once

So that means everything Is doubled, including the negatives

[wispy pendant]

When they have a new collab, don’t they usually leak it months in advance? I’m guessing we don’t know any news of any new collab at all yet, right?

[balmy matrix]

Hella expensive for me

[forest palm]

once you have access to good leveling spots, and start leveling ships for Tech chips flow like water

[viscid swift]

new collab is usually in September and it's usually announced during the JP Anni stream

[stark quiver]

yes, when you play a lot

[wispy pendant]

So chance of a collab in August basically zero?

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't bet on it

[forest palm]

I personally don't see a point in making a Skypirate for Independence when you can save the resources to make a Wyvern which will outperform the Skypirate even if it's buffed by Independence

[ornate narwhal]

how hard are rings to get?

[forest palm]

you're only way of getting them is with money, few times have they given free ones

[ornate narwhal]

oh ok

when i have over 400 cubes can i just spend the extra on anything?

[rain vine]

no reason to
just stockpile them

[ornate narwhal]

yay

how many more UR banners r there this year including reruns?

[hollow sail]

PR season cube researches but 400 is a bit too low for that, better to keep 500-600 at least

[rain vine]

probably just 2

[grizzled sundial]

Hope no more , my cube stock is drained thanked to Vanguard :v

[soft raft]

2 more in Sept and Dec respectively with the possibility of at least 1 more UR rerun within the year

[ornate narwhal]

ok

is it possible for me to get all the ships?

[grizzled sundial]

Consult with RNGesus .

[soft raft]

Depends, but you'll have plenty of time to save enough cubes

[atomic abyss]

Depends on your luck, and how consistently you play

[ornate narwhal]

but it’s possible?

[grizzled sundial]

Yes

[atomic abyss]

Absolutely

[ornate narwhal]

nice pray for me

[grizzled sundial]

i think they have over 600 ships now ?

[ornate narwhal]

750

any improvements i can make to my squad?

[soft raft]

Would rather raise Hood than Rossiya

[sinful escarp]

hood is strong for mobbing, so she will help more with your progress

[ornate narwhal]

how can i grind her up quickly?

[soft raft]

XP Books and Dorm

[ornate narwhal]

should i use xp books?

[sinful escarp]

and saratoga is a decent carrier, and she has retrofit

[ornate narwhal]

should i use her instead of anyone?

[sinful escarp]

imo once she gets more levels i would switch Pennsylvania with her

well at this point i would say to rush until w9 or something, so you can get the stages with oil cap

[ornate narwhal]

should i use xp books to upgrade saratoga and hood?

[sinful escarp]

use them on the ships you are using, except for portland's red skill

[ornate narwhal]

???

[sinful escarp]

ah my bad, thought books meant skill books

but it depends tbh
because progressing past w9 is just a level thing, and even with poverty gear you can do it

[ornate narwhal]

so don’t switch them yet?

[sinful escarp]

imo yeah, keep what you have now