gameplay-help

[zinc cloud]

I mean it says to roll events if worth it kinda but it says focus on getting to chapter 9 with the recommended team

The one people pin here

[undone plover]

Have you used the tickets at least?

[soft raft]

pushing to W9 is a completely sepreate manner than whether you should pull on a event or not

You do not go for skins at all if you're a F2P
Your guarenteed F2P gem income over the course of your account is barely enough to cover a single high quality skin

[viscid swift]

well let me put it like this, you're guranteed maybe just 4 or 5 skins worth of gems

and reasonably handouts give you maybe an additional one per year

[tame jungle]

skins are a luxury item

[keen sable]

for every skin you buy immediately trash 30-60 ships from your dock. if you're not ok with that then don't buy skins.

[soft raft]

Get the 💳 out if you want to get a skin without completely screwing over your dock space

[undone plover]

U can possibly get some oath skins with your f2p rings
Some skins are free with mini events
Outside of that spending gems on them is not advisable as f2p

[atomic abyss]

skins are for whales basically
either that or you just don;t play the game outside of it

as for how good the skins are...
"beauty is in the eye of the beholder"

personally i find some base skins better than the skins sold
it depends on you really

[zinc cloud]

Well didn't get Vanguard got like everyone else lmaooo

[atomic abyss]

[soft raft]

🆗

#al-general is that way

[eternal moth]

You can check all the skins on the wiki, https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Azur_Lane_Wiki

[soft raft]

Dunno how we can quantify what is ultimately decided by your own tastes but sure

[blazing shale]

Whats the tldr for the neko cv

[eternal moth]

Good

[eager mulch]

[silk helm]

👍🏻

[eternal moth]

Actually, i have a question about Nakhimov. Her second skill says this: "When this ship launches an airstrike: targets a random enemy (prioritizes humanoid enemies) and decreases that enemy's AA and EVA by 5% for 6s and increases their DMG taken by 5%. " Does that mean it's a permanent 5% damage increase?

[crimson glacier]

i guess?

[silk sphinx]

In the data mine it says 6 seconds

[inland shoal]

I'll check in like 10m

[eternal moth]

The AA and EVA debuffs say 6s, the damage increase doesn't have a timer

[silk sphinx]

It’s just that part about the 6s that has been displaced

Anyways you can check sams doc but might as well wait for thorin

[crimson glacier]

i dont think it really matters either way

[silk sphinx]

You’re still building her and she’s good so probably, but still pertinent info

[crimson glacier]

perma vs 100% uptime

[sweet delta]

Sam doesn't use a pick

[silk sphinx]

?why 100% uptime

[crimson glacier]

just losing some vanguard dmg

[silk sphinx]

Sam doesn’t but other members of the data mine team provide the data no?

I’m saying it might just be a translation issue

[crimson glacier]

how does it not have 100% uptime

[eternal moth]

It would make a difference with regards to timing; if it's the rest of the fight, having her go last wouldn't matter. If it's only 6s, she needs to go first

[silk sphinx]

Especially given that the google doc have that 6s at different parts

[crimson glacier]

i dont think she needs to go first

[sweet delta]

Not really, the datamine is just CN skill text, translated. The translated skill texts are usually not derived from actual game code

[crimson glacier]

planes take a while to hit the target

[silk sphinx]

Oh ok right should’ve thought of that. I guess nobody has checked in the meantime…

[sweet delta]

To be sure, you can ask thorin or renhex to check code for real

.

[cobalt rapids]

eta thorin confirmation 5 min

[silk sphinx]

Around 2, maybe 2.5s for reference, but still pertinent especially for vanguard dmg calculation

[crimson glacier]

yeah but if you have 3 carriers then the order is just irrelevant

[inland shoal]

I usually crosscheck datamine
But I don't see everything

All 3 are 6 seconds

[eternal moth]

Thanks Thorin

[cobalt rapids]

11 min

[inland shoal]

Unless there was a patch, lemme see

There was in fact a patch but it only changed some stuff behind the scenes about how her stun triggers

[inland shoal]

Ig ut could've mattered in fights with nultiple bosses? But eh

[patent pivot]

when was patch?

[inland shoal]

Days ago I just hadn't updated in a while

[patent pivot]

before or after the 18th

[silk sphinx]

danke

[inland shoal]

No clue, check AzurLaneTools

[wary timber]

Is the Foward base area in opsi not accessible at all after the story

[eternal moth]

Which portion is that?

[wary timber]

The middle

[eternal moth]

You need to do all the story to unlock it, then you should be able to go back. What chapter are you on in OpSi?

[wary timber]

Wait are u telling me I need to finish the practice battles against enforcers too

God dammit I wasnt planning on fighting ANOTHER one now

[eternal moth]

You still have a week before the reset

[wary timber]

To be fair I was clearing a stronghold

[vale spindle]

According to cn skill description translation all 3 effects are only for 6s

[wary timber]

Also how effective is Ryuuhou as a CVL? From my knowledge she has no preload strike to begin with like some other CVLs

[stark quiver]

good enougn healer, but i wouldnt count on her

[hollow sail]

her heals are not enough to be the main healer and she's much much worse than aquila or volga as a secondary healer due to having way worse stats across the board

[wary timber]

So ignoring the heal. What about her strike capabilities

[hollow sail]

not good

[stark quiver]

nope, people just use her to cope

[sweet delta]

I mean 6 planes with 321 base avi and no damage boosting skills to speak of

[wary timber]

Hmm

So wait. Shouhou could outdamage a Ryuuhou if we take AA out of the question ?

[sweet delta]

Well yes but they're both bad

[wary timber]

Yikes

[pulsar laurel]

Where do I find/use items like the gear packs and xp items?

[soft raft]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource
And wdym by Gear packs, the ones that require 💳 or do you mean the tech boxes you can get from shops/map drops/other minor rewards

[hollow sail]

you'll have to be a bit more clear about what items you are talking about

[pulsar laurel]

Yes the reward tech boxes, sorry

[undone plover]

it is in your depot. u can open them there

did u buy them from the event shop?

[pulsar laurel]

Ohhhh the items tab, I see it now thx!

[normal ember]

well. will admiral nakhimov take implacable place in 3 cv boss fleet :)?

[soft raft]

Pending testing but considering that her freeze requires another Russian Slow to be in the fleet to proc, that limits fleet comps more than just slotting in Implac

[atomic abyss]

very unlikely imo

[forest palm]

it's honestly a no, she'll end up as a companion CV to Impy more than likely

[atomic abyss]

then again, it depends on what kind of CV boss fleet anyways

[soft raft]

Implac/Nahkimov/Haku comp real?

[forest palm]

perhaps

[atomic abyss]

in theory, maybe

[normal ember]

boss armor? if medium, may be, may be not 😦

[atomic abyss]

wait 4-5 months

[undone plover]

maybe instead of plac in the kear/yorkii fleet?
since rockets are more forgiving on slow

[atomic abyss]

you'd just replace kear with soyuz at that point

[forest palm]

does Nyakhimov need a main fleet SN ship?

[shell willow]

technically no

[atomic abyss]

any SN ship
hence why voroshilov is in contention as a possible team mate

[forest palm]

shame to all the people that didn't raise Kron then

[atomic abyss]

kron is cross fleet only so...

and only once a battle...

[eager mulch]

so use her in a different fleet

so kill in one strike

[atomic abyss]

there's no point if you only proc the freeze once

[normal ember]

kron is my favorite ^^

[hollow gust]

gph overhyping new units, classic

[atomic abyss]

killing in 1 strike is unrealistic for any challenging content

[forest palm]

Kron would be the simplest way to satisfy Nyakhimov's SN requirement

[undone plover]

for one rotation tho

[normal ember]

ye, tank vanguard with gooood dmg

[atomic abyss]

except then your freeze is limited to 1 strike

i wouldn't be surprised if you ended up ignoring the SN req and just ran her with implacable regardless

[forest palm]

not like there's anything wrong with Kron though

[atomic abyss]

unless ofc, you use chkalov instead

[forest palm]

also I don't remember anyone overhyping Nyakhimov, people shifted towards Napoli after we got the datamine

[undone plover]

she loses the crit dmg buff as well so it might not be as cut and dry as that

[hollow gust]

gph cant cook

[atomic abyss]

here are yahoo's calcs btw

[normal ember]

chkalov not best idea for bossing

[forest palm]

put up, or shut up

[atomic abyss]

take with a spoon full of salt

[eager mulch]

I’m just gonna stick to hakunanoimplac

[hollow gust]

none of yall even have her at dev 15 and yet people coping nakh replaces ships off current comp

[forest palm]

no one said that stfu

[cobalt rapids]

im just gonna stick to hakunanonaga

[atomic abyss]

goose what the fuck are you smoking

[eager mulch]

what about hakunanoamagichan

[forest palm]

acting like one person is a collective

[atomic abyss]

as i said

[eternal moth]

According to that, the highest damage was Nyak/Chka/Shinano, which seems like a really weird comp to me

[atomic abyss]

by then, who knows, maybe nano or haku will be replaced?

many things can happen, but the point is, at least we have some background when looking into it

[forest palm]

considering there's not much in the CV market it's not that high a bar

[patent pivot]

i fail to see how that is surprising, is it chk > soy?

[soft raft]

inb4 Amagi II for JP anniv

[atomic abyss]

to be clear - i mean, possibility of being replaced by an entirely SEPARATE ship

[shell willow]

did she get turned into a cv lol

[eternal moth]

Kaga 2, including F35s

[atomic abyss]

different ships

[shell willow]

awh

[atomic abyss]

amagi the BC was never even completed, destroyed by earthquake in mid 1920s

[forest palm]

Hull conversions are a thing, so ya never know

[atomic abyss]

but there was a CV amagi later in the war... or supposed to have been one at least

[reef flume]

Amagi CV is nowhere related to Amagi BC

They're two different things

[soft raft]

She was completed
But just did jack shit since it was so late in the war

[patent pivot]

shin/nak + some russian or hak if you run a vg slower which hasnt been great

[atomic abyss]

it's just like how the DR BBV Kearsage is different from the Essex class Kearsage that actually sailed

anyways, i don't think we are properly gonna be able to test nakhimov for another 4-5 months

[forest palm]

the Yorktown, the Hornet, the Laffey all are unrelated, and are of the same hull type we have 2 different Kaga, so in AL history be damned in someways when they want to do something

[eternal moth]

She apparently never even loaded aircraft

[eternal moth]

Nah, someone will probably finish her in another 2-3

[atomic abyss]

is that even possible with cubes

[forest palm]

ya

[soft raft]

With enough cubes yes

[eternal moth]

I have 50 prints already, I'm sure there are people using a lot more cubes than I am that have more

[hollow gust]

you can finish an entire season in little over 3 months including the weapon

[candid meteor]

definitely possible ive only been focusing on gear, with 10 la9 prints, and i already have 44 prints for nahkimov without any cubes so someone using cubes focused oin her can definitely do it very quickly

[eternal moth]

I've used cubes when there was nothing else good

[hollow gust]

finished kear on day 68, hinden in day 89 , either way cubing is only noticable in PR prints early on

the effect of cubing on DR prints is only noticable once PRs start to finish

[viscid swift]

yep, I only have around 57 Nahkimov prints right now

[hollow gust]

120 cubes spent and 60 prints for nahk and 58 for Napoli

since im not cubing as hard im behind others for PR

[eternal moth]

I've been slacking on XP, so I don't even have Napoli developed yet, only Nyak

[stark quiver]

0 cubes and 32 for napoli, sounds right ig

[candid meteor]

how man days does it take for a ship tasks to fully unlock

[soft raft]

like 7

[forest palm]

I've hit 50 for Nakh, and Napoli, finished both, working on Daisen right now

[hollow gust]

thats slow considering not cubing means more chances you take DR face prints

[eternal moth]

She'll probably be the next ship I work on. I love the personality

[stark quiver]

eh, i wouldnt say too slow

[rain vine]

youre assuming theyre even getting dr face research consistently

[forest palm]

Daisen's gonna go fast I'm just using Housho + Akagi U + Taihou U

[hollow gust]

theres really good and really bad luck

i would be at 70 if i havent been getting bullied by DR face prints

[stark quiver]

i prio DR face, and somehow still end up with a lot of pr

[candid meteor]

im really behind in terms of pr ships rn , 10 prints eachh -_-

[noble phoenix]

Why can't I throw more money at Odin?

[soft raft]

get her ship lvl to lvl 70 first
They still follow the same lvl mininums for limit breaks tht regular ships have

[stark quiver]

it says right there

[candid meteor]

shes not level 70

[noble phoenix]

Oooh, derp

[forest palm]

everytime

[eternal moth]

EX boss is heavy right?

[hollow gust]

its monarch so yes

just grab your sakura with musashi and one strike it

[noble tulip]

is there a consistent repulse one shot fleet these days

[eternal moth]

That worked a lot better than the triple BB fleet I was trying

No wonder battleships were all scrapped.

[sweet delta]

Maybe ur BB was poorly set up, the boss has 600 AA

[slow fox]

5x AAeHp holy

[eternal moth]

Why would AA affect BBs?

[sweet delta]

Your sakura

If your CVs worked a lot better than BBs even through 600 AA, something went wrong with the BBs

[eternal moth]

Musashi w/460, BiZ with champy, Alsace with champy, ply, helena, probably should have used Agir instead of Laffey 2 though

Manual'd to wait for shots to line up

[eternal basalt]

Still noy fixed then, thanks

[eternal moth]

Hmm, thinking about it I might have been just outside of timing for Helena

[sweet delta]

#gameplay-help message I forgot if I used 460 or no

[soft coral]

What type of armor is the 13-4 taihou

[inner delta]

taiho is heavy

[stark quiver]

between alsace and biszwei who does more damage against heavy armor

[wispy pendant]

Bis2 does a lot more, but alsace does good damage and buffs damage of other ships

[sweet delta]

If the battle is 10 seconds long then Alsace obviously does more. If it's 10 minutes long then Bisz obviously does more with similar setup

[lapis ivy]

Who's good to get from Series 3 prs?

[sweet delta]

Cheshire or Odin, but both are outclassed by other decently easy to acquire ships

Basically just use their catch-ups as protocore

[lapis ivy]

Champagne and Drake not good?

Or*

[sweet delta]

Champ is not good and Drake is decent but really delayed because you should be coining fdg first

Decent is not very impressive, it means comparable to the best gold CAs like Friedrich Carl

[lapis ivy]

Cause I want to continue with Brest (French Ur pr) which I'm doing good with 30% through the 2.4m xp

But I'm running out of oil lmao but as I have 375 of the data things I can rush a Series 3

[sweet delta]

Bad idea to use the rush

[soft raft]

Dont use the combat data packs on CDC XP
Always convert those to protocore

[lapis ivy]

How good is she? (I started her long time ago)

[ornate narwhal]

how many hours until event ends?

[rocky fjord]

the reset after next reset

[fickle edge]

So, no official way to Aquire Hatsuzuki other than hoping for an event rerun? Returning after a long hiatus and realizing I missed out.

[soft raft]

Very worth it

[candid meteor]

yes'

[ornate narwhal]

so >24 hours?

[lapis ivy]

Ok good good

[fickle edge]

@candid meteor that really hurts. Have the skin and everything too.

[sweet delta]

Very bad considering that you only have 2 blueprints for her

[viscid swift]

her event will rerun, it's just a matter of when which won't few for a year at least at this point

[fickle edge]

Thank you

[lapis ivy]

I don't really care about bps as of now tbh. If she's bad until I get bps I'll have to deal with it

[soft raft]

And for a visualization of how far off we are from her rerun (She's part of Unzen's event)

[tame jungle]

I was literally about to ask for this, thanks lol

[stark quiver]

how will you deal with it?

[lapis ivy]

Just get more

I've only just got back into this game

[worldly pewter]

are u done from pr4 ?

[lapis ivy]

No tbh I've been going for who looks cool (may not be good but eh)

Just adds to collection you know

[worldly pewter]

this doesn't align with who looks cool though

[lapis ivy]

How?

[soft raft]

Damn people going for whoever activates their neurons the most instead of who's the most meta, that's crazy

[worldly pewter]

because how good and how it looks cool are 2 different things

[lapis ivy]

Ong

[lapis ivy]

Ok and?

[soft raft]

Have you heard of a waifu before

[lapis ivy]

^

[worldly pewter]

there is no need to ask for it then
just get the thing . . .

[stark quiver]

[lapis ivy]

I mean it's good to ask cause I may even use her... Ya thought of that?

[native folio]

is this good time for new player to use saved up cubes in current event?

[rocky fjord]

vanguard is v strong, ye

[teal lance]

how do i unlock last skill? I thought limit break would unlock it

[ornate narwhal]

how can i quickly get DR ships?

[zinc herald]

Which ships are the best for farming napoli

[silk helm]

💳

[zinc herald]

In 13-4

[ornate narwhal]

w/o money…i’m broke

[viscid swift]

you need to retrofit her

[stark quiver]

you farm 12-1/4, if ur not at least like w9 then dont bother
just go with roon for now

[ornate narwhal]

wait so is there no other way?

[silk helm]

if they have coin up i guess...

[stark quiver]

you grind

[ornate narwhal]

i don’t understand the system…i’m asking like how do i get them

i may have been unclear before sorrry

[zinc herald]

You get the required tech points to research them, research them and then gather BP to get them to dev 30 or FS 5

[stark quiver]

first you need the tech for the faction > then start research > do what it tells you to do > get bp/coin

[ornate narwhal]

who should i prioritize?

[stark quiver]

hm? first is fdg, if no points can go roon first

[silk helm]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

pretty helpful guide

[zinc herald]

Which 3 ships do I use to farm Napoli in 13-4?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1020944690863947816/1265422399965495457/IMG_4167.png?ex=66a173f2&is=66a02272&hm=ec1178e6c25fc082cdd62be0eb37ec26797def9282bd34424433b18fab1df679&

[ornate narwhal]

also should i get jervis or table first?

[zinc herald]

Any1 worth leveling from them

[soft raft]

Table

[soft raft]

Doesnt really matter but in terms of fleet tech bonuses:
Gorizia, Attillio, Duca, Zara, Giuseppe, Pompeo, Avrora, Chapayev, Kursk Kirov, Kubyshev, and Kron are all FP tech
Pola and Pamiat are HIT tech

[rocky fjord]

do explorables still have akashis

[undone plover]

They can have her yes.

[zinc herald]

What about in terms of dmg, who has high output?

[soft raft]

Why does that matter

[zinc herald]

Fast clear

[soft raft]

Unicorn retro preload go brrrr
Tho tbh you should farm W12 instead of W13 since you wont have to deal with the higher AA requirement in W13

[zinc herald]

Actually doesn't 12-4 have better oil to exp ratio than 13-4?

[stark quiver]

you really arent gonna want to level shitters in plane spam map

[rocky fjord]

arent usually able to

[still merlin]

How does daisen compare to other bbs or bcs is she like a sodegrade or she excels at a niche?

[soft raft]

Her most notable gimmick is that she launches a scout plane, and if it gets shot down, it heals the vanguard

Which is only relevant for W13 and W15 but you'd have much better options for both of those worlds And also Insert obligatory PR BB in a UR BB world curse here

[agile gust]

been saving mail for 2 years should i even take it

[left cedar]

nowadays mails get a upgrade and u can store 600k coin and Oil ... so no reason to not get it

[agile gust]

when did they add that

[left cedar]

somewhere close to CN anny

[stark quiver]

even if sent in storage, dont use unless u really need to

[signal pollen]

Are any of these two worth farming?

[wispy pendant]

left = no
right = pretty good, but flapjack is better in almost all ways

[signal pollen]

If I don’t plan on making a flapjack any time soon, would it be something I should look for?

[forest palm]

no, the answer is just flat no, neither are worth farming

[signal pollen]

Okay. Thanks for the help then

[rocky fjord]

can i complete wichita meta if i start today

[echo vector]

Need help for Napoli load out. Just got her.

[whole crypt]

nothing then, she's not fit for use yet

[echo vector]

Typical CA DPS loadout ?

[forest palm]

need about 29 days

[rocky fjord]

im autoing rn, how much time was there left?

[exotic wren]

43 days left

[rocky fjord]

alr

[soft raft]

Ignoring the fact that she won't be fit to use for a good few months, best load out would prob be
UR CA Gun (Prob Hinden or Drake)/Ply Gun/AA gun/Typical CA Auxes

[echo vector]

Thank you

Just want to start farming her affection

[whole crypt]

in that case just drag her along in the middle with 2 toolkits, she's really not going to be doing anything at low level + low dev

[sinful elk]

Chat the smaller the ship type the less exp it required to reach next level right?

[eager mulch]

no

[forest palm]

it's only rarity

[undone plover]

No
Xp required is the same for all ships
Rainbow ships need 20% more

[sinful elk]

is it possible for helena to reach lvl 125 if i cog awake her rn she has 1.3m exp

[forest palm]

potentially

[sinful elk]

[hollow sail]

125 is like 1315000

[sinful elk]

Alr let me try

[hollow sail]

from 120

[sinful elk]

Yeah it overkilled now i have enough cog to awake alsace too

[forest palm]

Lv 120 is 3,235,675, Lv 125 is 4,545,675

[plain saffron]

If i start playing event today do i have enough time to get everything good

[exotic wren]

......nagamon why

[forest palm]

could probably walk out with 15k

Table, and Chips should be 18k though

abuse Help, and rotate your whole dock clearly

[atomic abyss]

15k easy

[jaunty vault]

you got little over 29 hours
more than enough time if you play your cards right

[forest palm]

your worst enemy is a lack of oil

[plain saffron]

Rotate?

[frank pulsar]

use multiple farming fleet to work arnd morale

[exotic wren]

go slavedrive all of them, even the pink haired ones

[plain saffron]

Are uni ddg usable this map

[frank pulsar]

why not

[spice phoenix]

what do the letters mean?

[plain saffron]

Good gonna abuse them

[frank pulsar]

it oil cap tho so better to just use full fleet

[forest palm]

the letters just designate the type of research the following sequence of numbers and letters after it don't mean much, unless you see a UL

[plain saffron]

The 1st letter on each research

[forest palm]

funnily enough you can differentiate Qs by the numbers, and the third section is where you'd see UL

[exotic wren]

That's D in the middle right

[forest palm]

ya looks like a wonky O, but it's a D

[spice phoenix]

like that?

sorry for reply ping btw

[jaunty vault]

yes

exactly like that

[forest palm]

at the end of the code if you see UL take that

[frank pulsar]

whats the difference

[forest palm]

UL are 30 min research coms with high payout

[jaunty vault]

ULs are 30 min

[frank pulsar]

oh

i didnt know there was a special code for it
i just pick all half an hour research

[jaunty vault]

rather not take them if cube count is running low but that can be left to preference as they're pretty rare

except Q- ULs ofc

[spice phoenix]

i’m sitting at a comfy 850+ rn so i think i’ll take em

thanks

[forest palm]

I don't feel like going through my notes it's been ages, but you can dissect every bit of a researchs' code to mean something, the first one is type, the second one is cost, and the third one is length iirc

[crisp raven]

fleet 1 is ca and fleet 2 is cl for d maps. no other vg hull reqs. uni ddgs will obv work for the rest. might as well abuse the x3 and x5 since youre in a rush.

[spice phoenix]

should I work for FDG or should i raise vanguard, shinano, and AvP to 120? (i have bismarck II, NJ, alsace, soyuz + few sr bbs)

[atomic abyss]

Why not both

FdG still sounds like your best option for mobbing amongst the few listed

[plain saffron]

Time to abuse emden or someone else

[eager mulch]

can’t do efficient FdG grind with only avp in the fleet

[plain saffron]

I don't want to abuse 6 ships at a time

[spice phoenix]

i mean i’m trying but i’m wondering if i should go full IB for maximum exp gain and postpone raising my bbs rn or the opposite

[sweet delta]

If they're all mlb, then fdg is just tech

[plain saffron]

Making many fleet means i need to setup their gear

[spice phoenix]

they’re all mlb lol + 120

[sweet delta]

So level up your good MLB bbs instead of getting a tech ship like fdg

[sly parcel]

should spend x2 drop ticket for event?

[plain saffron]

If you lack time yes

[sweet delta]

If you're in a rush to get 15k points

[sly parcel]

nah, but when should i spend it?

[stark quiver]

for event?

[keen sable]

whenever you want to play less

[soft raft]

When you dont have the time to grind
It's literally just doing 2 runs at once, simple as that

[sly parcel]

oki, tysm yall

[spice phoenix]

what should i buy from this event? (aside from the admiralty table ofc)

[stark quiver]

jervis if u havent already

and then kinda just whatever else u need

[uneven cave]

Is there a list of fighters that can't intercept and a list of non-fighters than can intercept

[stark quiver]

non fighter that can intercept is wyvern
fighter cant intercaept is 109g

109g intercept?

[sweet delta]

That looks like a quite incomplete list

[rain vine]

missing the recent additions

[stark quiver]

close enough

[plain saffron]

Should remove it completely and tell people to see in each page, no need to update anymore

[frank pulsar]

ive never even heard of those two ijn plane

[jaunty vault]

now you do

they're seaplanes for BBVs and the like

[frank pulsar]

so i didnt miss out on anything then

[jaunty vault]

you missed out on good tech

[frank pulsar]

nobody uses seaplanes aside from the asw ones though

[plain saffron]

But asw plane is not seaplane

[sweet delta]

Ur right nobody uses halford

[plain saffron]

Asw plane is it's own type

[atomic abyss]

They're auxes

[jaunty vault]

ASW planes are auxes, yes

[atomic abyss]

And even amongst the seaplanes, not all of them can be equipped on any ship with seaplane slots

[jaunty vault]

auxes that launch attacks might i add

[plain saffron]

Not quite

[atomic abyss]

Iirc there's a seaplane that can only be equipped on BBVs and not a certain Chinese carrier

[frank pulsar]

there literally isnt any use for sea planes

[plain saffron]

It's not an aux, it's its own type

Type 15, cvl and warspite can equip type 10(aux) and type 15(asw plane) in their 4th and 5th slot

[eager mulch]

15

[jaunty vault]

15(asw plane)

[plain saffron]

Tldr it's not auxes

[jaunty vault]

then why can it be equipped in aux slot

[plain saffron]

cvl and warspite can equip type 10(aux) and type 15(asw plane) in their 4th and 5th slot

[eager mulch]

why can main gun be equipped in burg aa gun slot

10(aux)

[jaunty vault]

cause its a hybrid slot

[plain saffron]

It's not just an aux slot, it's actually multi type slot

[jaunty vault]

makes snes

[atomic abyss]

Tldr potential for 🍝

[plain saffron]

Nah it works fine(for now)

[jaunty vault]

im just fooling around, dont mind me

[plain saffron]

Trolling in gph??

[jaunty vault]

[plain saffron]

Mod ban pls

[crimson grove]

I didnt even know shimakaze is a permanent UR now if I didnt check the pins

[jaunty vault]

u should check #game-news from time to time

[crimson grove]

But what I really came for
I needs a auto comp for this EX cause any vanguard I use gets burned to bits from the HIT

[eager mulch]

manual

[atomic abyss]

No auto comp

Manual it and park it in a corner

Much easier than trying to make an auto comp

[stark quiver]

Didn’t I send a video on it

[crimson grove]

oh okay

[stark quiver]

^

[south sequoia]

Too much skill, time to ban

[jaunty vault]

gitgud scrub

[exotic wren]

I tried to do this using my laptop, it ended up with my laptop speaking parseltounge, no easier way?

[jaunty vault]

@exotic wren

[stark quiver]

make auto comp

[exotic wren]

Aight lemme try

[crimson grove]

okay done

thanks

[cloud fractal]

Just starting OpSi, am I able to basically cheese the beginning chapters with a few overpowered URs and some stuff that’s being leveled?

[stark quiver]

u can cheese with levels

[cloud fractal]

Sad. My CDC farm for Ägir involves underleveled IB Vanguard ships.

Guess I gotta put together a real set of fleets.

[plain saffron]

Who is best mobbing bb purely mobbing

[frank pulsar]

sushi i think?

[cloud fractal]

Who is sushi?

[frank pulsar]

mp might be better if enemy isnt that tanky though imho

[stark quiver]

musashi

[cloud fractal]

😂 I need a glossary!

[stark quiver]

kinda just pick up on stuff in gph lol

[frank pulsar]

i usually dont use nicknames with new players though

[plain saffron]

Event d3

[loud rover]

is mp>fdg for mobbing?

[exotic wren]

You looking for the quickest clear?

[plain saffron]

Quickest 1:1

[frank pulsar]

just use preload bb if its d3

[frank pulsar]

no, hence why i mentioned not as tanky
we're also talking abt purely clear speed

[calm cradle]

What're the use cases for Spearfish over Wyvern?

[plain saffron]

Richy emden it is

[frank pulsar]

opsi mobbing and w15 i guess, i cant rly think of other use cases

[stark quiver]

alsace exists

[wind hazel]

don't you mean w14?

[frank pulsar]

why gamble the 70% when you can have guaranteed

[frank pulsar]

spearfish rocket work in w14?

[wind hazel]

you want the wyvern intercept on w15 no?

[loud rover]

cant wait to mlb alsace next month cries in richie preload

[frank pulsar]

spearfish good on w15, helps with killing the elites better

you prob wont use it over wyvern if yr aa is though

[loud rover]

just run guam, sandy and laff2 in the same fleet, ez

[calm cradle]

Sounds like it's not worth the ord reports when I only have 1 twin 457 then eh

[frank pulsar]

spearfish pretty low prio yea

[stark quiver]

most of the time its just wyvern

[loud rover]

how many 457s do you want outside of the 1 for mobbing

[stark quiver]

people have 2 then like a flandre gun ig

[frank pulsar]

imho 2 is enough, one for mob and one for boss
if youre willing to part with the plates then 3

[loud rover]

flandre gun an interesting choice, any reason why?

[stark quiver]

timing purposes

depends on ship

[calm cradle]

You don't want multiple 457 for a med/heavy boss?

[stark quiver]

u can surive with champy guns

[loud rover]

on boss you usually want champy over 457 for helena radar scan timing

[calm cradle]

Ah okay

[steady beacon]

Am I supposed to brainwash another into the Georgia gun cult?

[soft raft]

not if you're trying to sync with Helena
Tho in campaign boss it could be a possibility to get a bit more DPS but most of the time i'd still use a champy/NJ gun

[loud rover]

.5 sec flandre vs champy doesnt seem that big

[stark quiver]

like i said depends on ships

[frank pulsar]

dont need to, im already planning on joining when i can

[rocky fjord]

assists 4 salvo BBs in meta and challenge mode 20s syncs

[steady beacon]

It can be surprisingly important in practice
You can get a surprising amount of wiggle room with just a .5 sec difference

Hell, you can get a surprising amount of wiggle room with like .2 sec difference

[rocky fjord]

this doesnt matter in campaign but in challenge content

[loud rover]

would you combine it with afct/hpfcr so to get those 4 salvos? on all 3 ships or just the slower of the 3 to bump them up to keep pace?

[stark quiver]

20s for helena?

[rocky fjord]

depends on meta, but all triple bb 4 strikes require triple radar

[loud rover]

well when i get to pr6 (idk if i'll go straight to 7 after i finish 5) i'll have to remember to build some flandre guns.

[rocky fjord]

shimanto hinden kear vs napoli admiral? idk either

[desert tapir]

What are the events that will rerun between Vanny and Mushi?

[loud rover]

really wanted those three from pr6 jsut ebcause they're all good, but some people saying go to pr7 for the LA-9 and napoli. i do need a couple hinden guns so i may just go pr6

[frank pulsar]

im on pr6 side tbh
the only real value on pr7 is nahkimov and la9

[eternal moth]

Napoli might end up being the better DR from PR7 than Nyak

[worldly pewter]

think about how much impactful the gear and ships from both series in ur fleet composition and see which one is better
imo it should be pr7 now

[eternal moth]

Napoli being a higher-damage Anchorage means she might be more impactful

[loud rover]

i already have a little over 100 prints for hinden and kear so i might as well do pr6. hinden gun is a great bonus

[frank pulsar]

we already have agir and ancho for bulk, getting more dmg from actual dmg dealers would be better than trying to get your tank to do dmg imho

[loud rover]

another reason why i'd like to have hindenburg. i think unzen my only good CA damage dealer

[eternal moth]

It depends on how much damage Napoli does. Do we have numbers yet?

[patent pivot]

Nap is ~75% ply on med

Slightly above gayir

[frank pulsar]

lmao

[eternal moth]

That sounds a lot lower than I expected, but ok

[patent pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1261803451839676518/1262050149866143824/image.png?ex=66a1b58b&is=66a0640b&hm=7cc40dc21d7ceb3e902f01af16eff0bbdf3d5f03f8b9df10bac6d41091daa50b&

[icy mountain]

is there any other vanguards ships that inflict a debuff like helena and ply for BBs?

[patent pivot]

Agir is the most common, she had standard AB and slow

[loud rover]

i'm surprised at the halford numbers

[icy mountain]

okay then, i can get agir soon guess i can finally replace roon

[loud rover]

can u have multiple smokescreens up?

[steady beacon]

You indeed can
But by design, their effects cannot stack, and the highest effect takes precedence

[loud rover]

dang it there goes my plan to have ancho, halford, and napoli spam smokes

[solid delta]

how's jervis?

[steady beacon]

She's fine, but somewhat limited use cases
And has a couple of plausible substitutes

[silk helm]

Is this OK?

[slender heart]

Why 410?

[silk helm]

um idk, im broke

someone said its good for skills that bproc on fire

[worldly pewter]

i think even if she is a skill barrage ship like soyuz u gear her normally

[silk helm]

this instead?

[slender heart]

Ye

The other 2 probably struggling to sync if vanguard use 410 kai

[patent pivot]

Vanguard is a bit of an odd case because her onfire skill wants to be with other BBs who are going to use shelling guns, so she wants a shelling gun

[silk helm]

wat does sync mean

[solid delta]

you mean her evasion-focused tank ability?

[silk helm]

im using her with alsace and/or fdg

[slender heart]

Fire in order

[silk helm]

or like why do you want them to fire in order? like is alsace supposed to fire first then vanguard?

[steady beacon]

Partly
She's fundamentally a DD tank
Which was a somewhat novel concept in her original run, but now there are others that can also do the job
Her lack of AA also hurts due to W15

[steady beacon]

It's ordering of buffs and debuffs

[slender heart]

You want a ship that apply debuff to go first, so the damage dealers will deal more damage

[silk helm]

oh okay i think my debuff is helena

[steady beacon]

So, let's say...
Vanguard loads --> applies her debuff for BBs --> Vanguard fires --> Alsace fires --> applies her debuff for everyone --> Idk, say, Bismarck fires and gets to benefit from all the preceding debuffs to boost her already massive damage

[slender heart]

Then forget about 410 kai

[silk helm]

ohhh okay, i didn't know vanguard had debuffs

[worldly pewter]

i think her debuff is what makes her in the top of the list

[silk helm]

i c i c

[loud rover]

if i was to put alsace into my opsi fleet of fdg/uvh/nelsonkai, should i put uvh in flag and take out nelsonkai?

[stark quiver]

how long is vanny debuff

[silk helm]

6 sec

[steady beacon]

The BB debuff specifically is 6s
Her universal one is permanent 2s after enemy spawn
(Well, until that enemy dies anyway)

[slender heart]

Put alsace flag if fdg is fatesim 5

[loud rover]

thought i'd ask since off-flag uvh disregards timing

[slender heart]

Timing those 3 takes a bit of work ye

[steady beacon]

Who is in the vanguard?

[loud rover]

just unlucky for me for when i started playing the game. began in aug 2023 and i stopped playing for a couple months after uvh rerun so i missed soyuz so meh.

[loud rover]

iirc i have agir, helena, unzen

[copper pine]

whats the michita optimal team?

[loud rover]

havent had any major problems unless helena decides its time to die and eats every torp on screen

[stark quiver]

whats the closest replacement for mog and hinden?
also whats next months cm

[loud rover]

mog is an enigma for DDs, idk about replacements for hinden

[copper pine]

anyone?

[steady beacon]

With Helena and a lot of HVARcats, probably YII/Kear/Implac
With Helena and not too many HVARcats, YII/Kear/Alsace
If you have lots of good eq and tech and want to try no Helena, also YII/Kear/Alsace, but different eq and vanguard comp

[loud rover]

a DD that deliberately rams ships

[steady beacon]

Full details in the guide that I'm also too lazy to find the link for rn

[patent pivot]

depends on they are being used for

[steady beacon]

Next month CM is uh
Sandy iirc

[slender heart]

Sandy next cm

[copper pine]

whats the vanguard?

using Y2/kear/implac, also which one is hvar?

got 2 HVAR

[stark quiver]

for example sandy cm next month, im probably running vanny,alsace,bis2 for main and what would the optimal vanguard be?

[steady beacon]

Helena + Ply + either Sirius or Harbin depending on how your survivability is going
Kear gets one HVAR, the other (stronger one, if applicable) goes in YII slot 3
Other slots get Bf109Gs

Honestly, if you have only 2 HVARcats, I'd use Alsace instead, esp if you've got 2 Mk 7s at +13

[patent pivot]

iirc sandy CM next month is the one where you need a stopper or you get cucked by movement

[loud rover]

sandy has the zoomies?

[stark quiver]

well thats not good,
shes light armor, and i only have 1 mk7, how 2 cope

[patent pivot]

well you mk7 biz and mk6 rest

or you just run antilight CV

or could mix, depends on who you got really

[stark quiver]

my best bet is 100% bb, i have no anti light stuff for cv

[slender heart]

No mog as well?

[patent pivot]

no AvP or implac?

[loud rover]

cope with bf109s if we dont have hvars or just use regular fighters?

[stark quiver]

i dont have kear, yk2, only 1 mk7, no mog

[patent pivot]

damn well yeah mk7 biz, mk6 rest and cope enough hits

[stark quiver]

wait hold up wrong reaction lol, i have implac

[steady beacon]

Use 109s

[patent pivot]

maybe its not as bad as i remember

[steady beacon]

We used 109s for light for a year and a bit before HVARs were a thing
And also after, given that they're event limited and most people didn't farm that many

[patent pivot]

im too tired to guestimate a sync right now but implac + biz + als should work

[copper pine]

like this?

[steady beacon]

... Jesus are you trying to give me a heart attack

[copper pine]

huh?

[stark quiver]

im thinking ply,aurora,helena for vanguard

[patent pivot]

sounds reasonable, could DDG if you hate helena

[steady beacon]

Maybe I should have just found the guide link after all...
OK...
First, do you not have the Skyraider?

[stark quiver]

ill test it out next month

[copper pine]

+13 1 only tho

[atomic abyss]

Halford

[patent pivot]

halford on light?

unless im way more tired than i think im like 95% sure her shit is anti heaby mods

[atomic abyss]

I was exaggerating
Yeah hers is more heavy iirc

[loud rover]

tiny tims like heavy

[atomic abyss]

Well she replaces aurora for heavy I suppose

[patent pivot]

aurora on heavy???

[atomic abyss]

Not that you'd use aurora for heavy

I mean you'd use the slot that aurora leaves vacant

[patent pivot]

or you just use a ARA/CV buffer

[steady beacon]

OK then (we all only have one Skyraider at most)
Yorktown carries Bf109G/Skyraider/HVARcat with Beacon
Kear and Alsace double shell with Swords
Helena carries Rudder + Manjuu
That vanguard is not going to live four rotations with any kind of consistency
Three-rotation setup is your best bet

[atomic abyss]

I mean the point was moreso for BB comps

[patent pivot]

middle slot is alr for hinde/helena if you dont hate her

[steady beacon]

I don't hate Helena, I just hate having to use her

[atomic abyss]

Like I said just wait for a UR/DR Helena

[loud rover]

helena exists for one thing, and she can't even do that sometimes

[atomic abyss]

It's bound to happen eventually

[desert tapir]

bump

[atomic abyss]

The honest answer is "we don't know"

[patent pivot]

oh yeah in eed to pick your brain about goergia gun later

[atomic abyss]

The rerun schedule is wack at this point

UR reruns have been deliberately delayed

[patent pivot]

thats like a 3 days from now problem though

[atomic abyss]

So stuff that ran after Musashi may rerun before Musashi now

[steady beacon]

Any time
My favourite BB topic, probably

[patent pivot]

i would just ask now but idr the questions and the list of comps to test is already so long, (FUTURE ME LOOK AT HALF TIMING)

[copper pine]

1 beacon and steam for york?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[atomic abyss]

How is it that we only have 2 rainbow CLs
One of which is a retro, one of which is a DR
Aka not gacha

[crimson grove]

what do ppl usually buy from core data shop after you're like 10 AP Shells in
cant think of anything other than Blackburn to make Wyverns

[steady beacon]

Basically necessary because otherwise your second rotation is too slow to catch Wichita while she's still stationary (although this is assuming max CV RLD as well )
And third rotation falls partly outside of Helena's window

Also faster CV probably has better screen clear timing, but as far as I've been able to tell, that's not Yorktown's doing

Any other questions probably have their answer here https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xh8L_FmuaPAMLoi-QiJ7tkNmxUm9lxQX/view?usp=sharing

Provided you don't die of a stroke first, anyway

[crimson grove]

what in the wichita

[copper pine]

@steady beacon any changes needed?

[umbral needle]

just double checking, OpSi doesnt affect morale correct

[slender heart]

Sword instead of bow, and another hp/eva aux on ply

[umbral needle]

good while their morale is shot in map grinding ill move to opsi and grind them even further

[steady beacon]

Officer's Sword on Kear
Swap the HVARcat and Bf109G on YII
Defensive aux > FuMO on Ply (Albion report if possible)
Change Harbin torps to quad mags or Iris torps, Goldburn over toolkit if you can

[loud rover]

quin mags

[steady beacon]

Also, triple Sword on vanguard
Cope that slash for clearing more ordnance

[forest palm]

Witch M comp?

[steady beacon]

Oh and heck, Sceptre on York II as well
Might as well get a little AVI for first strike rather than jack all

[crimson grove]

[forest palm]

nothing wrong with UR Quint Mags

[copper pine]

which one is albion report?

[steady beacon]

If you don't have that, Crystal Ice Bomb or just fall back on Toolkit
Your Ply should have an easier time than mine with Harbin smoke

[copper pine]

changed everything except quint mags

i have albion report and now its on ply

[steady beacon]

The torpedoes should be quad mag/Iris torps for a reason

[copper pine]

the 550mm?

[hollow sail]

badge should be best on ply for ehp from what i heard

[steady beacon]

The gold 550, not purple 550
You want to control her smoke timings

[hollow sail]

alongside rudder, if you don't have the report

[copper pine]

done

[slender heart]

No, that speed up will kill them quicker

[steady beacon]

Usually, yes, but for WichiM in particular that 20% speed boost is a problem

[hollow sail]

right, that slipped my mind just now

[copper pine]

i use rudder and albion report

positioning is good? @steady beacon

[steady beacon]

Wrong Iris torps
This is why we need standardised nicknames

[copper pine]

ply as tank, helena middle and harbin off, FL Y2,kear right side and alsace left side

[hollow sail]

iris torps supposedly got considerably better results when suchi ran the simulator but another player did empirical test in the actual game and quad mags did better which is weird

[steady beacon]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/550mm_Quadruple_Torpedo_Mount_Improved_(Ammo_Mod)
These ones
If you don't have, just use gold quad mags (or the improved quad mags from previous event)

[copper pine]

made 6 of them just now

[steady beacon]

It's RNG ultimately
Also, in this fight, you're not really expecting your torps to do that much anyway

[wary timber]

Which shell is more balanced for basically every kind of content for BBs? Mobbing and bossing?

[slender heart]

White

[copper pine]

swapped @steady beacon good to go?

[worldly pewter]

hvar should be in the first slot i think

[steady beacon]

You're using Ply, so flag Kear
Rest of your placement is fine
I'd probably put Alsace at bottom to try and forestall as much as possible Wichita META's movement jamming shit, but even that is probably RNG at the end of the day

[steady beacon]

Not for WichiM

[soft raft]

huh wdym not
Mitchita is Light armor

[worldly pewter]

timer ?

[steady beacon]

Yes... and Yorktown's slot 3 is her stronger slot...?

[worldly pewter]

how is it stronger ?

[plain saffron]

Efficiency

[steady beacon]

3 planes and 135% eff vs 2 planes and 120% eff

[zenith locust]

Anyone knows how can I complete these missions?

[plain saffron]

/wiki operation siren star

[odd root]

No wiki pages found.

[soft raft]

what zone is that specifically?
Because two ??? gives us jack shit to work off of

[slender heart]

[worldly pewter]

where can i find these info ?

[vale spindle]

/wiki list of operation siren zones

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Operation_Siren_Zones

[finite crag]

wiki

[steady beacon]

On the wiki
Or you can just memorise them

[forest palm]

you have to complete the missions above to unlock more

[plain saffron]

And ingame

[steady beacon]

And in-game, ofc, but you don't have YII right now

[plain saffron]

Not really, you can do them without completing the above 3

[forest palm]

[plain saffron]

Completing the above 3 just shows them visually

[worldly pewter]

oh yes mah bad

[copper pine]

1,280,567 damage on supporting others @steady beacon 1st run

[plain saffron]

Idk they even do this shit, just show all of them what secrets you hiding with this shit

[steady beacon]

Also
No Goldburn?

[copper pine]

forgor to equip.. on who again?

[steady beacon]

Harbin, replace the Toolkit

[copper pine]

oki

[steady beacon]

Ngl, at this rate I'm going to be having dreams (or nightmares) about Wichita META for years

[copper pine]

at least not as disgusting as... helena meta level 15 on first day of release

[zenith locust]

So first I have to complete the 3 above and then those mission will be unlocked?

[copper pine]

that speed is like an annoying bug flying around

[forest palm]

that's how I thought it works

[zenith locust]

Thx

[copper pine]

yup always been like this, 4th unlocked after you did the first 3 then 5th unlocks after 4th mission is done

[plain saffron]

No

[plain saffron]

Also just refer wiki

I remember farming for stars on launch and i can do the 4 and 5 without completing 1 to 3

Why farm for stars? loggers

[forest palm]

it's been like what 4(?) years at this point, it's all soup at this point

[plain saffron]

[thin haven]

[forest palm]

still though a lot of the hidden missions tend to be RNG heavy, or the Records

[humble iris]

Should I spend my gems on dock slots or dorm slots

[exotic wren]

Do /gems on #bot-spam

[frank pulsar]

1 dorm slot, second floor and the rest into dock space

[wary timber]

Is the VT-18 Avenger squadron good or is the barracuda better

[vale spindle]

if its the one that inflicts flood in the skill then yes its slightly better

not worth getting from core data over the breguet which is just better

[wary timber]

Oh?

[vale spindle]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[vale spindle]

it didn't update one second

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/samheart564/ECGC/main/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[steady beacon]

Sam doing bug fixes in real time

[wary timber]

Passive intercept too. The breguet might just work while I wait to get a 2nd wyvern.

[stark quiver]

breguet = budget wyvern

but budget doesnt mean bad

[plain saffron]

barracuda but intercept

[rain bobcat]

the setup for zwei vg soyuz is soyuz gun and 2 champ guns yes?

[eager mulch]

for medium sure

[wary timber]

Only thing is that I'm saving to get the Independence too

[steady beacon]

Is this for META
And do you have them oathed?

[wary timber]

Also for opsi I have Unicorn and Enty in the sane fleet. My Wyverns are on Unicorn so I can utilise her preload to get rid of enemy shells headed for my main fleet as well as dish out huge damage with Flapjacks and wyverns fast. My Enty has Flapjack, a Tenrai and a Barracuda squadron cuz honestly if Enty were needed the Tenrais + Flapjack bombs are enough. Should my Wyvern squadron go to Enty

[slender heart]

I'd move enty to cv fleet

And put converging torp on her

[wary timber]

Converging torp bombers are on my lv 90 Implacable while she's being leveled up

[slender heart]

Even better

[wary timber]

Ryusei squadron for her. Then my Ju-87 D-4 on Graf Zeppelin while I scramble to get FDG

[sweet delta]

Putting wyvern on a 2x125%x1.7 slot is not a very high priority

Much less against opsi bosses

[dusk niche]

Hey do you guys know how to check when your accounts were created?

[dense epoch]

when doe sthe event end?

[stark quiver]

you can each anniversary

[slender heart]

Or checking oldest event ship you have

[stark quiver]

you can? how?

[slow fox]

Sort by Date Joined?

[plain saffron]

Still can only get rough time

[stark quiver]

wait how? ik how to sort but the other

[slow fox]

you're a rough time

[plain saffron]

Sort by joined date
See wiki when that ship released

[stark quiver]

its fine i got app store history

[plain saffron]

That's why i say rough, and it works

[plain saffron]

My bad

[slender heart]

On anniversary if you want more precise date ye

[dusk niche]

oh okay cool thanks guys

anniversary is coming up in a few weeks so it shouldnt be too bad

[eager mulch]

youre not a rough time

[lone vigil]

Just wondering why people recommend to complete pr4 ships when j have the points to do pr7 ships just curious as to why because im new and still don't understand

[stark quiver]

pr4 has good tanks, like anchorage and agir, has hakuryuu, whos really good, and youd want 2 tenrais, so while getting all of them to d30/fs5, you kinda just should a do the rest of the others since u need to research for 2 tenrais anyways

[finite crag]

bigger number != better

[slender heart]

bigger dmg number != better? Blasphemy

[ivory crown]

how much time do we have left on the event? is it 26 hours or like 2 hours

[steady beacon]

25 hrs and about 40 min

[tired condor]

wtf

vanguard banner ends today?

[rain vine]

in about 25.5 hours

[tired condor]

ooooh i was panicing lmao

[slender heart]

^

[soft raft]

EN moment

[slow fox]

about 25 and some hours

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[eternal basalt]

98% chance for Thursday... it's Wednesday

[stable parrot]

Hi how to remove augment module? Currently I have no space to have more module

[atomic abyss]

Use them to enhance others

[stark quiver]

put them onto mlb ships u dont use

[blissful atlas]

so mogador pulls her self to the enemy goes back to the vanguard then dashes back after a moment are there any auxthat would benifit her other then somthing like hedgehog?

[atomic abyss]

Hedgehog is an aug now?

[blissful atlas]

ment aux i hate auto correct

[atomic abyss]

Still toolbox + 550 HP aux
Lacking which, double toolbox

[stark quiver]

there so so many things cursed abt this sentence
she'd just want survivibility aux
and probably sword

[atomic abyss]

Shouldn't it be sword not hammer

[stark quiver]

yea mb

[blissful atlas]

so what i already have on her ight was wondering if there was a niche aux that benifits the upclose playstyle

[hallow iron]

Can someone post the UR ships predicted timeliness again

I remember seeing one

[atomic abyss]

There isn't

[stark quiver]

toolbox+550/500 hp aux usually

aux is dependant on what youre doing
toolbox + whatever your content needs

[blissful atlas]

i have toolbox and gold burn on her atm

[sharp socket]

what do people use the beaver for

[stark quiver]

more eva

[eternal basalt]

Musashi next, then 2025

[atomic abyss]

Even more Eva
CAs would appreciate it

[sharp socket]

does the bonus effect make a difference

[stark quiver]

?

[atomic abyss]

Depends
Against wichM? Lol no

[atomic abyss]

The speed boost

Against most bosses tho, yes it is usually useful

[stark quiver]

highly depends on what youre trying to do

[sharp socket]

whatever w14 has to throw at me

[atomic abyss]

W14 you'd want torp bulges on mob
Same for w15

[hallow iron]

This list doesnt include new ur right?

[sharp socket]

torp bulge + repair kit/washing machine?

[atomic abyss]

It doesn't
This is potential rerun order

[atomic abyss]

Bulge + rudder for mob
Boss depends

I personally run beaver on boss for the extra eva

Toolbox healing wouldn't be as beneficial for a boss fleet

If the boss spams torps tho
Then yes bulge rudder too

[stark quiver]

i ran beaver + toolbox for agir in w14 boss

[sharp socket]

hmm i see

well i dont see because im not familiar with how the enemies are on w14 but i understand it kinda

[atomic abyss]

Suicide boats and subs

Also, BB fires

[stark quiver]

and fog

[sharp socket]

BBs can catch on fire now

[stark quiver]

but i never understood how that works so i brute forced it

[atomic abyss]

W14 is essentially w11 on drugs

Everything that made w11 annoying for a new player, is present in w14

Your flagship will be set on fire

[deep thicket]

The vanguard banner says it last to 7/24. Does that means it ends once it hits the 24th or at the end of the day on the 24th?

[sharp socket]

i brute forced w11 with lv120 ships because i took a break and farmed 2 events so i dunno about the mechanics there

[atomic abyss]

End of 24th

[deep thicket]

Thank you

[stark quiver]

kinda just anti sub, intercept suicide boats, get lighthouse asap

[atomic abyss]

Also, fuck your US BBs
Fuck your HMS BCs (so basically Hood)

[inner delta]

[brave blade]

there's still some time for the event right?

[atomic abyss]

1 day ish

[brave blade]

nice, thanks sir

[sharp socket]

im actually just waiting for fdg to be d30 to start work on w14

[frank pulsar]

w14 ez even without fdg

[stark quiver]

i dont think i had fdg when i did w14

[sharp socket]

well theres also the slight issue of jda needing lv125 but im sure that wont bite me in the back surely

[stark quiver]

125 isnt needed

[sharp socket]

my lineup does look pretty bad compared to what my recommendations were but it should be fine

[weary scroll]

What should my first and second team be?

[stark quiver]

For what content?

[weary scroll]

1 for exercise and 2 for story

[stark quiver]

Go to #pvp for exercise, and what chapter are you on?

[weary scroll]

i think 10?

[stark quiver]

Could go
Alsace, enterprise, unicorn
Portland, z23, Helena

[weary scroll]

ok thx, should i not use vanguard?

[stark quiver]

Not yet since not mlb, how close are you to getting 2 more UR bulins?

[weary scroll]

just need 1 more and i have 2k specialized cores

[stark quiver]

Hm, you could wait for September UR cuz you aren’t desperately in need or mlbing vanny or mog,
That being said that fleet should work for now, gear well

[weary scroll]

yea i have like no gear at all

is there somewhere where i can get decent gear from

[stark quiver]

Gear boxes, research, opsi

[weary scroll]

is there a gear guide? i have a ton of purple gear but barely any yellow ones

[stark quiver]

Can someone link gear guide, I don’t have it

anyways try using this onehttps://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home, it gives general gear usage on ships

[tame jungle]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment samheart’s equipment guide

[stark quiver]

tldr for chapter 10, HE on boss

[stable parrot]

How?

[tame jungle]

Reckon you were referring to this?

[stable parrot]

I currently have 150/150

[stark quiver]

probably lol

[weary scroll]

thx

[stark quiver]

yea something like that guide, just look over it when u have time

[atomic abyss]

Equip the purple ones to the ships you use
Then enhance them

[polar venture]

How many blue prints does brest need?

Can I only get 150 from the research focus?

[jaunty vault]

513

[atomic abyss]

513
You only get 150 from catch up

[polar venture]

Fuck

[jaunty vault]

you can get 150 from catch up

[atomic abyss]

Welcome to the world of PR grinding

[jaunty vault]

you can get unlimited from research focus

[polar venture]

You're saying I'll still get more?

[atomic abyss]

No

That's catch up

Anything else you get the normal way

It's just that research focus ensures you'll get mostly PR5 ones

[polar venture]

Is it worth composing skill books?

[frank pulsar]

its more time efficient but you lose exp overall

personally i always compose them cuz i cba to wait longer

[jaunty vault]

with 2 training slots you wont ever use up your gold books so its pretty redundant to uhh compose them

[polar venture]

I've got 4 but I'm not really training like I should be haha

[plain saffron]

I probably won't compose

[frank pulsar]

i got 3...

[wary timber]

Which is the better one to do for Agir BPs

[frank pulsar]

iirc purple and for overall season progression the blue one

[wary timber]

I don't care about progression I just need more bps

[frank pulsar]

idr the specifics but shorter research supposed to be better cuz faster cycling, personally i always pick the longest research(only cognition, rigging and grants) thats relevant cuz i only login once a day

[stark quiver]

I’d go with the purple agir

[clever lance]

What are some easy to obtain ships that have high AA stat with minimal ship levels?

Just to get high enough AA stat to fight on some maps

[frank pulsar]

juneau i guess? but compromising on ship level would make any ship underperform due to level advantage

[clever lance]

I just need to open the stage lol

I can’t play the stage cause my stat is too low

[frank pulsar]

use auxes for stat padding then, like aa radar

is this for the event? cuz if so just stuff the second fleet with stat padding and let your fleet 1 kill everything

[wary timber]

San Diego, Juneau, Laffey, Helena are the ones I can name right off the bat. Their aa is either god tier or pretty darn good if u give them the right gear

[clever lance]

Thanks

[clever lance]

Yes

[clever lance]

Didn’t realize I could use a second fleet. I had the second fleet empty the entire time lol thanks

[frank pulsar]

laffey and helena aa is just average

[abstract solar]

Is the ex stage boss armor type heavy?

[stark quiver]

Yes

And requires a lot of dodging

[lofty zodiac]

170/200 Vanguard just show up yeah!
At this point is it ok to go for pity for a dupe? i have 355 cube

[atomic abyss]

up to you honestly

[lofty zodiac]

I am a new player and can build a second UR even if i am still not sure if i want to build this UR is mogador...

[vale spindle]

you can build mogador

[stark quiver]

If you don’t mind trading 60 cubes for one Ur bulin I guess,
You can probably still get enough cubes by next UR event

[vale spindle]

if you have 355 cubes its a question of do you want the ships from the next event or would you rather get a vanguard dupe

since next event doesn't have a rainbow ship you would only pull them if they are waifu

[light trail]

if i leave my guild and join a new one, do i have to buy all of the tech all over again? also, would i for some reason lose my guild tokens?

guild master and officer

[sharp socket]

no and no

[light trail]

sick, thanks

[frank pulsar]

is the new np converging torp useful or not? idr the verdict

[inland shoal]

Highest dmg, but slowest

Another timing alternative

[sharp socket]

can i alternate between main fleet and frontline mode for tai yuan ddg

[hollow sail]

you can but no reason to ever use her on main fleet

so might as well save yourself 200 coins

[frank pulsar]

main fleet mode is bricked though outside of farming

[lofty zodiac]

Is the twin 381 good to use or just stay with the triple 406 mk6?

[steady beacon]

Stay with Mk 6
Or you can use that purple Twin 410 if you want a faster gun

[lofty zodiac]

What ship want a fast gun it depend on how they barrage/skill work?

[sharp socket]

i want to level tai yuan but i have 3 frontlines farming cdc

[frank pulsar]

then use main fleet mode, she gets more exp in main fleet mode

[frank pulsar]

it depends on their skills, stats and weapon efficiency

[frank pulsar]

just use the purple twin 410 if you need fast bb gun

[steady beacon]

Generally, at least in mobbing, you can put a faster gun on ships with barrage on-fire
You don't necessariy have to, though

[whole crypt]

the assumption is you do not need the shelling damage of triple guns to kill mobs so a faster gun for faster clears is better

but it doesn't mean a triple won't do the same thing, just maybe a few seconds slower, assuming the mobs are weak enough

[lofty zodiac]

Ok
On the mobbing side what AP gun is good for BB

[whole crypt]

what chapter is this for, because you don't need an AP gun to mob for most of the game

[lofty zodiac]

Just out of curiosity mainly for opsi since i don't strugle farming in w12 rn

[whole crypt]

OS mobbing doesn't need an AP gun either but if you want to either 457 or champagne/soyuz/flandre guns are fine

I haven't tried twin 410 mod.A but it should functionally be a 457 for Musashi, and I don't expect you to have a copy of it yet anyway

[lofty zodiac]

Who is doing the most dmg vs heavy armor? It's not the bb ship?

[whole crypt]

BBs or CVs normally, unless the spawn lines up with your torps
there's just not a lot of heavy armour to deal with when mobbing in general

OS has a bit more than campaign up to 12 or 13 but nothing you can't manage with HE guns still assuming you're using a decent BB or the comp is overall properly setup

[fiery swan]

Is the next dorm furniture the race one

[whole crypt]

there's a new racing themed? set for furniture in case you were looking for the older ones

[inner delta]

i think there's a new one, with the arcade car racing one and the RC loop

[whole crypt]

there is a new set, JP notes named it "racing cafe"

[inner delta]

yeah

[whole crypt]

older ones are probably waiting to be added perm at some point if not already perm

[cloud fractal]

For leveling research ships to dev 30 on level 2 (FdG specifically) is there a limit to how much you should spend in a day on dev? Like a diminishing return: after x amount of coins per day it becomes less worth it?

[inner delta]

like 10 i think

or 3 if you want the really cheap one

discount should stop at 10

[cloud fractal]

Ty

[hollow sail]

first 15 are discounted but 15 is considerably more expensive than 10 so most people just do 10

[fathom sable]

"Can" i farm 13-4 for the sub torp?

[cobalt rapids]

dont farm gear in campaign

altho 13-4 isnt a bad place for coin but consider how many xp slots ull have to sack for carries

[fathom sable]

So, where should i farm or get them?

[cobalt rapids]

techboxes, research, opsi

for subtorps just do ur weekly raids

lv65 or 95 preferably

[blazing shale]

What's the best light gear for kear/avp/york in siren? 125 Oathed

[cobalt rapids]

hvars mk 7 skyraider and then the tbs depends on sync which idr

[blazing shale]

Skyraider for york?

[steep gulch]

I'm struggling with ship slot, should I just delete my common ships or is there another way to free it? I have done all the quest that gave red gem it seems

[cobalt rapids]

guild tech

[steep gulch]

That is already included, still too much ships

Does changing guild has cooldown before you can join another guild?

[cobalt rapids]

then ull have to retire easily reobtainable ones or just pull out the 💳

[steep gulch]

[frank pulsar]

just get more dock space with gem

f2p have like 350+ dock space idk how you run out

why the ren

[cobalt rapids]

coz theres like 700 ships its quite normal to run out if u dont make sacrificices

[frank pulsar]

i have 250 and im still doing fine, it just bad management if you cant make 350 work

i even made 200 work for my first year and a half

[cobalt rapids]

do i have to bring up the aurora incident

[frank pulsar]

aurora was just accident

i clicked too fast

[jaunty vault]

delulu lore

[novel condor]

Gph at its finest

Oi y shut I only state the truth

[plain saffron]

[south sequoia]

[night sun]

when does operation siren reset?

[strange sphinx]

ahm, how do missiles works?

[tame jungle]

The first daily reset of August (provided you beat the story, you’ll get a counter on the overview if your operation siren will reset)

[strange sphinx]

I have missiles in ah shan and max seconds skill but I don't see missiles?

[night sun]

ok thanks

[plain saffron]

/ddg

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

DDG Mechanics

Vanguard Mode:

• No Preloaded Missile
• No "timestop" on missile launch, can't manually aim; missiles are launched automatically
• Missiles travel similar to surface torpedos
• Main Gun shell speed +20%
• AoA reduction carries over (8 shots for AoA)

Backline Mode:

• Preloaded Missile
• Gains "timestop" on missile launch; can manually aim (similar to BBs)
• Missiles launch in a tall arc with low spread (similar to Georgia barrage)
• HP +50%, Evasion -40, Damage Taken -20%
• AoA proc every missile shot
• Gains "Hidden" mechanic; Damage Dealt +15% when "Hidden"
• Main Gun range set to 75 (used for intercept; greater than twin 130 and twin 128 base ranges)

Note: Vanguard Mode has higher overall damage output since DD guns hit more enemies. Backline mode still has decent damage, however.

[plain saffron]

you prob not seeing it because it's fast

2nd skill won't affect infight performance of the missile

[night sun]

after reset do i have to complete all the stages again?