gameplay-help

[acoustic thistle]

so it's basically 3 AM eastern time on thursday when bannor ends

[soft raft]

BF109G is only better against anti medium/light armor when AA Is NOT a concern
Left one is useless whatsoever when Gold Hellcat exists

[viscid swift]

for campaign you'd be better using those Purple F4u Corsairs

[urban spruce]

Thank you

[urban spruce]

Thanks for info!

[kind slate]

Pls help. I rechallenged 14-3 but my Volga is dying

[stark quiver]

do u have enough asw?

or maybe volga being shelled

[kind slate]

Probably shelling. I have kawa with hedgehog. How do I deal with this?

[undone plover]

it would help to take this i think

[kind slate]

What other stuff should I do?

[undone plover]

well if she is being shelled u can rudder her i suppose
can u open a thread and post the mob fleet gear just to double check?

[stark quiver]

use a asw plane

[kind slate]

Aight.

[ornate narwhal]

so i got 1 vanguard, should i use cubes to get more?

[sage nebula]

For Guam, does her barrier stack? So if she shoots her MG twice, does she get two 1% barriers?

[candid meteor]

unless you're swimming in cubes no

[kind slate]

pls help with w14 (im still stuck lol)

[wispy pendant]

if you were to build a most optimized opsi fleets mob/3xBB/3xCV/crossfleet , does mogador even make the team?

[pliant tiger]

Does Alsace replace Musashi on a BB shelling team of Bisk Zwei and Vanguard?

[stark quiver]

most of the time

[soft raft]

mainly against medium and light armor, the latter of which due to her lack of a good HE gun that syncs

[pliant tiger]

Now I feel bad for oathing Musashi and not Alsace, but o well

Thank you

[soft raft]

Eh you'll live, tatical oathing is for whales anyways

[stark quiver]

the average player will be fine w/o oeath

[solid delta]

does helena's radar skill's dmg buff calculates the additional dmg dealt to herself? She's dealing the most dmg in my fleet

[soft raft]

I dont think her damage numbers get to harp off of the buffed damage values of the other ships that benefit from her defbuff

[solid delta]

thanks, ig imma check their weapons then

[humble iris]

Is talinn worth my resources

[abstract marsh]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[soft raft]

realistically no

[stark quiver]

theres a button in the secretary page

[keen sable]

Helena good

[solid delta]

and i just reached lv30, who in pr1 should i research for? i only have st louis rn

[stark quiver]

realistically your first should be fdg if u have the tech, dont worry abt research until you are in AT LEAST 9-1/4

[solid delta]

do i just leave it there

[stark quiver]

yea

[undone plover]

just pick anyone (roon if u can) and ignore it until u reach ch9+

[keen sable]

Saint loius

[mint field]

Hey all. I am brand new and have no idea what I’m doing. I have only cleared 2-2 and have no idea what to be prioritizing. These are my current ships. Any help is appreciated.

[soft raft]

Give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[mint field]

Is Arizona good?

[soft raft]

Ehhhhh not really
just go read the guide I linked and come back if you have any further questions

[sharp socket]

what kind of frontline will go well in a BB ops fleet

[soft raft]

Agir/Helena/Plymouth is a typical setup

[keen sable]

Alabama unicorn, long Island, portland helena javelin. Anyone you don't have, buy them from guild shop.

[sharp socket]

does tank helena ddg work

or do i put tank helena offtank

[stark quiver]

it works, but work =/= good

[sharp socket]

alright then my CV fleet gets the same thing but ddg instead of helena?

[soft raft]

Tank/Kazagumo/Sirius

[sharp socket]

ah i can get sirius

[pseudo hearth]

What a picture…

[mint field]

I’m sorry

[stark quiver]

lol no worries if u can u could screenshot instead , clearer to see

[sharp socket]

hmm then my mob will get tank ddg and gun dd cause ill run out of tanks by then

[mint field]

Need to put discord on the iPad lol

[polar raft]

How do people genuinely finish the new pr7 ur ships already?

[stark quiver]

u can just slap whatever in mob, its just unicorn+ stuff

[keen sable]

Play the game

[eager mulch]

they don’t

[south sequoia]

Dedication and lots of free time

[soft raft]

and lots of oil saved up

[eager mulch]

getting them is the short part

[viscid swift]

people have unlocked them, but no one has maxed any of them yet

[south sequoia]

Its not like it'll change anythinf if you take your time or you rush them, you're still limited by blueprints

[sharp socket]

can i leave hood in mob and do alsace soyuz fdg in BB

[viscid swift]

yes

[keen sable]

I haven't used a drop of non guaranteed oil yet and on track for 2 dev

[south sequoia]

While it may seem impressive at the rates these people finish the grind at, we're all stuck to the rng of research

[sharp socket]

hmm so ill need uh 4 white shells

is it better to have a half assed BB and CV fleet or just have a good mixed boss fleet

[stark quiver]

better to have one good thing

[keen sable]

Fdg isn't particularly half ass

[sharp socket]

my current serviceable tanks are anchorage portland and takao

agir needs leveling still

[keen sable]

What dev is she even

[sharp socket]

29.5

if i use some print selectors she can be d30

[stark quiver]

good enough

[sharp socket]

but im gonna wait until shes like lv115 before doing that

[keen sable]

Portland is fine. Helena will buff her. Takao probably fine too. Edit: For off tank

Someone needs to tank though

[sharp socket]

anyway she has to compete with cdc farming for cheshire anyway

i have a funny idea actually, i dont really need haku unless im doing w15 right

so can i jump to pr5 and start working on ply/brest

[keen sable]

Eh Haku isn't ss tier on 15

[viscid swift]

Haku is good at a lot more than just W15

[sharp socket]

what is she for then

[viscid swift]

doing damage, esepcially against heavy and especially when paired with Shinano

[sharp socket]

so CV ops fleet?

or w13h also

[stark quiver]

yes

[viscid swift]

besides you'll want 2 Tenrais before you leave PR4 anyway

[stark quiver]

most of the time u just use hakunanoimplac for opsi cv flt

[sharp socket]

i have the ability to get my 2nd tenrai now

sitting on 12 prints and 3600 protocore

[viscid swift]

how far off is Haku from Dev 30?

[sharp socket]

348 prints

[viscid swift]

really? you're sure that's Dev 30 and not FS5?

[candid meteor]

is there any order i would want soyuz alsace and zwei to fire in?

[sharp socket]

348 prints is the number i have

i cant develop haku anyway yet because im 660/950 IJN tech

[viscid swift]

is Agir Dev 30?

[sharp socket]

29.5

[viscid swift]

you may as well get Haku to Dev 30 at that point

[sharp socket]

i can bp selector agir

[viscid swift]

with PR4 prints?

[sharp socket]

PR6

[candid meteor]

prob dont iwht pr6

[keen sable]

Ancho fs5?

[viscid swift]

ehh I wouldn't, just spend an extra week or 2 in 4 to get them finished

[sharp socket]

ancho avp fs5

[viscid swift]

it should be pretty quick anyway

[keen sable]

How many more pr4 events are there? 1 at most?

[viscid swift]

none

from here on it's PR5 prints in reruns

[spring scarab]

I just have enough rainbow bulins so, Vanguard or Shinano which to limit break ??

[viscid swift]

what other URs do you have, both max limit broken and awaiting to be MLB

[candid meteor]

what order would i want alsace bis and sooyuz to fire in>?

[viscid swift]

what Triple AP BB Guns do you have at +13?

[spring scarab]

I don't have all URs but Currently only 3 URs are not limit break ( Vanguard,Shinano,Mogador ) o

[candid meteor]

none rn

[viscid swift]

you have Soyuz's gun and 2 Champaign guns though yes?

[candid meteor]

yes

[viscid swift]

I'd stick the Soyuz gun on Zwei and give the other 2 Champaign guns and call it a day at that

[candid meteor]

ok

[viscid swift]

so what URs do you already have MLB then, DRs as well

[sweet delta]

Minmaximg this depends on the battle length, your fleet tech, oaths, available guns, fleet, boss, and more.
The moral of the story is to just do what cheeky said and not care

[spring scarab]

Laffey 2 , FDG , Soyuz , Agir , warspite , San Diego , Hakuryuu , Alsace , Shimakaze ( i have other DR like hindenburg but not dev 30)

[viscid swift]

just to clarify, Haku is Dev 30?

[spring scarab]

Yep It's dev 30

[viscid swift]

I'm gonna go with Shinano

[sharp socket]

whats the bb firing time calculator called

[forest palm]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/battleship/

[sharp socket]

ty

[forest palm]

you can google bombzen calculator, and find it

[spring scarab]

If it would help in the future then i will also go with Shinano 👍

[eager mulch]

but he isn’t bombzen anymore

[forest palm]

the name'll haunt him

[worldly pewter]

the c1 cheat code

[sharp socket]

does the calculator factor in soyuz self rld buff

or how do i key that in manually

[atomic abyss]

You have to add it manually
It doesn't auto include

[hushed aurora]

is this worth it to buy?

[eager mulch]

quality of life only

[sweet delta]

If you don't play enough to spend all oil, then you can spare 5k oil per month

[mint field]

Shouldn’t I have a boss killing team and a mob killing team?

[viscid swift]

Not at this early stage

[sweet delta]

One strong team is better than two weak ones

[mint field]

Okay. Trying to get in a guild to get the store.

Still stuck on 2-3

Just farming 2-2 in the meantime

[keen sable]

If you don't play a lot

[sharp socket]

i play alot but still buy it because im lazy

[keen sable]

Joining guild wasn't part of instructions. Just buy them

[remote yarrow]

What he means is it is not necesary to enter a guild to have the guild shop available

[mint field]

Then I must not know where this shop is….

[remote yarrow]

Shop > Supply > Guild

[mint field]

I see. Sorry

[remote yarrow]

No need to apologize, you are learning

[keen sable]

if you see gold retrofit bp buy cv ones too

[stark quiver]

would i need to go through all those puzzles n stuff when reset if i dont buy that

[mint field]

So I should be buying one elite and one rare then

[eager mulch]

puzzles are one time

[stark quiver]

very nice

[keen sable]

and then refresh yes

[mint field]

Wait I guess I don’t need rare cause I have Portland

[remote yarrow]

Then get pennsylvania or do you have another BB?

[mint field]

I have Alabama? I think that counts?

[keen sable]

roll tide

[remote yarrow]

She's decent

[slow fox]

spotted

[mint field]

Okay so the squad left to right is Long Island, Alabama, unicorn, Portland, javelin, and Helena

[remote yarrow]

They found me 🚪 🏃‍♂️

[remote yarrow]

That looks good

[mint field]

Whoops I meant Arizona not Long Island….should I switch?

[stark quiver]

how many stages of a sp event are there, and are they released 2 sets a day like normal event?

[eager mulch]

yes, no

[keen sable]

6 counting sp usually

[remote yarrow]

Nah stay like that imo, you can replace Long Island if you manage to get Ranger or Saratoga better

[stark quiver]

yes stages

[mint field]

So Long Island instead of Arizona. Got it

[slow fox]

I lied

[keen sable]

5 or 6 doesn't really matter though. the farming stage is almost always L80.

[mint field]

Is there a different way to level up ships other than stages?

[eager mulch]

it’s ok mebot, we’ll still love you even if you lie to us

[slow fox]

[remote yarrow]

There's exp books, you can also throw them in dorm for passive exp, but for now just do the highest stage you can do

[keen sable]

xp books eventually and of little practical effect, coms, pvp, dorm

[soft raft]

XP books and Dorm but you dont get a consistent source of XP Book income outside of the Weekly packs until you start using lvl 100+ ships and dorm by itself isnt as efficent as regular grinding

[keen sable]

you should also save books imo. there's little benefit to pushing with books if you can't remove the commander level gates

[quartz wyvern]

This upcoming banner is just a banner without stages?

[lethal verge]

I don't think they've said what kind of event it is. Probably a normal one with stages hard/normal each

[quartz wyvern]

Like no shop, just ships?

[lethal verge]

Unless they've said otherwise, it's probably gonna be a normal event

[quartz wyvern]

I was thinking it was gonna be like Marseilles.

I don't think that had any stages, IIRC.

[soft raft]

It's been confirmed to be a SP event

[lethal verge]

That one didn't but this isn't that event

[quartz wyvern]

Damn. I'm almost out of those bonus thingymajiggies.

[soft raft]

if it was gonna be Marseille style, then there would've only been one ship reveal

[mint field]

Should I be using my cubes to summon on any of the banners?

[remote yarrow]

Don't pull on Permanent banners (Heavy/Special/Light) just on Event ones, UR banners are always worth going for but you can also ask if it's worth pulling on Non UR ones in here

Since you just started I doubt you got even 50 cubes, so just use the event tickets to pull for Vanguard and pray for rng

[mint field]

I have like 30 cubes

[remote yarrow]

Yeah, just use the tickets and pray

Then save by just doing 1 pull on light banner since it's free to do so (you get your cube back from a daily mission)

[mint field]

How do I get more tickets? I want to pull…..

[remote yarrow]

You get 44 max in UR Reruns, from Daily Login, Daily Missions, Event Shop, Point Milestone

[mint field]

Can I even clear event map? Or am I too low level?

[remote yarrow]

Since you are in W2 you can do A I guess

And try to aim to B3 before it ends, which is in 2 more days

What you should try to get is 10k for the UR table or 15k points for the Milestone UR Bulin

[uncut creek]

does the fire control radar/table work with alsace, or does the preload mess with the reduced load time on the next shell?

[fluid brook]

it will just make the salvo after the preload load faster

[soft raft]

Those auxes dont count the preload as the "First load"

[solid delta]

can vanguard be onflag?

[stark quiver]

can be both

unless another bb wnats flag

[solid delta]

i was using indomitable unicorn and vanguard as a flag

[remote yarrow]

She can, but in most cases other BBs have higher prio for flag

[stark quiver]

works

[remote yarrow]

And she's better suit for Bossing than mob

[solid delta]

im early game and i don't have resources for a boss fleet soo

[soft raft]

Then you most likely dont have the resources to Limit Break Vanguard into a useable state

[solid delta]

true

but i dont think i had any better bbs like hood

and btw is indomitable worth the bullins

[soft raft]

Pennsylvania works just fine

[solid delta]

mlb?

[soft raft]

She's good but not a high prio over the likes of Enterprise and Hood for your Bullins

[remote yarrow]

Every MLB BB is better than non MLB Vanguard

[vagrant spoke]

Is Alsace Soyuz vanguard combo good?

[forest palm]

is that all the UR BB you have?

[vagrant spoke]

I also have nj and uvh

[atomic abyss]

Then that's the best combo you got

[forest palm]

then, yes that fleet should be fine

[vagrant spoke]

Bet thx

Would kearsage change anything? I don’t have mlb

[forest palm]

nah, for a pure BB fleet Kears wouldn't change that

[atomic abyss]

Kears is better for mixed fleets

[sharp token]

i got vangy at 176 pity, should i continue to reach 200 so i can save bullin? i've got 261 cubes left

[forest palm]

should just save at that point it's not worth the 48 cubes

[vagrant spoke]

When’s the next UR

[forest palm]

who knows

likely mid September

[atomic abyss]

September probably

[south sequoia]

is there like math of how much of a dps increase kear gets with la-9

[sweet delta]

It may be too much to hope that such math accounts for the fact that la9 is so slow that it will lose her precision strike and possibly buff to other BBs in longer battles

But still it's definitely better than using hvar or pirate squad for med/heavy

[south sequoia]

Ohh

[proud flame]

is it gonna be a rerun

[jaunty vault]

we dont know what future events hold

[proud flame]

praying its not musashi rerun

[jaunty vault]

going by previous years' schedules, it will most likely be a new UR
but i emphasize this again, we can't say anything for sure

[atomic abyss]

September should be a new UR

[proud flame]

alr i have time to save

[soft raft]

You still got time before that, but Sept is 99.9999% likely to be a new UR and 99.9999% likely to be Sakura

[atomic abyss]

We haven't gotten UR reruns back to back at least

[proud flame]

saving for musashi so im fine with that

[atomic abyss]

Well Musashi you get 40-ish free rolls anyways

[proud flame]

yeah but, i wanna be guranteed i get her

[atomic abyss]

Considering you get 168 cubes a month, not that hard

[hollow gust]

168 cubes guranteed , as much as 300+ if you grind

[proud flame]

true but im at 100 rn so i wasnt sure if it was september cause i saw someone saying she was coming later this year

[stark quiver]

you get a good bit from comms

[proud flame]

my comms hate me

[stark quiver]

💀 .

[proud flame]

i get like a two cubes a week from them if im lucky

[forest palm]

[finite crag]

you just dont do enough commissions

[proud flame]

also probably true

[hollow gust]

That's complete bullshit if you do it well

[finite crag]

i can understand getting 2 cubes a week from comms if you only do like 4 comms a week

[soft raft]

We don't have the name for the upcoming Vichya event at all, right?

Was wondering if it was out there so I can update my rerun order image

[proud flame]

i really only got back into it recently

[hollow gust]

Considering this is how much I make a day and I'm super lazy

[finite crag]

yea well clicking on commissions and letting them sit isnt related to how recently you got back into the game

[stark quiver]

i dont think so

[proud flame]

big money

[atomic abyss]

We do not have a name yet

[soft raft]

Ight

[steel grotto]

whats like a good power level to comfortably do corrosion 6 opsi?

[plain saffron]

If you're in exercise page when season reset will it force refresh the page?

[plain saffron]

Generally you can see your power level on the roman numeral on right side

And fight lower or equal corrosion level enemy

[steel grotto]

ah is that a more accurate metric to the big number next to it?

i guess i could try again but strongholds are corrosion 7 right?

[finite crag]

the most accurate metric is to just make a good fleet that number really doesnt mean anything

[plain saffron]

188/188/x is enough for everything other than arbiter

Assuming good fleet

That big number is based on adapts and fleet ship level and some other scaling

[jaunty vault]

x is 144 and those numbers are max effective adapts for strongholds

[slow fox]

144!?!?!?

That's 12^2 !!!!

[stark quiver]

[forest palm]

goofy child

[eager mulch]

”x is 144” algebra in gph?

[forest palm]

if you really wanted to go the algebraic route....

X is effective adaptive tuning needed to counteract enemy adaptive tuning

[tired condor]

i have 6 ur bulins, should i put any into nj?

the only other ur i got is mogador

[jaunty vault]

sure

PSA, you shouldn't be buying UR bulins till you're sure you want to use them

they just take up dock space

and by buying, i mean buying with spec core

[stark quiver]

could wait for september UR

[tired condor]

yea ill wait for september ur

[soft raft]

Honestly I would rather wait till the Sept UR to decide granted you could prob get another 2 UR Bullins by then

[jaunty vault]

you'll get enough for September UR during the time

granted you play the game regularly

[tired condor]

im reserving 4 for vanguard

[jaunty vault]

not even counting july spec core

[plain saffron]

X is irrelevant because healing

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[ivory crown]

is alsace better at bosses than retrofit nelson

[soft raft]

Assuming both are MLB, absolutely

[ivory crown]

ok

[wary timber]

So I'm at 180 builds and I already got 1 Vanguard. My cubes situation is uh. Not great at 49 cubes now. Is it worth reaching that pity or should I back off and save for the French ships coming

[stark quiver]

id say save, you really only need 1 copy, also 49 cubes is

[soft raft]

Save
Wouldn't really hard pull for the French when we have EN an JP Annivs coming up respectively and JP Anniv most certainly being a UR evebt

[wary timber]

Got it. I'll only do one pull using the free ticket I can get later

[nova halo]

the event gonna ends tomorrow?

[eager mulch]

no

[stark quiver]

time zones exist

[eager mulch]

still like 49 hours

[forest palm]

yup

[eager mulch]

gn Taz

[lone vigil]

Need help making fleet formations

[vague socket]

Is there anything I can improve on shimakaze? She feels kinda lackluster compared to my other UR ships and is currently weaker than my retrofit ayanami

[crisp estuary]

It's called Twitter

[cobalt rapids]

quad mags

[crisp estuary]

Doesn't she have decent enough guns?

[atomic abyss]

Nope

[cobalt rapids]

even then idk what magic happens for u for shima to perform worse than aya

[crisp estuary]

Hang on, I need to check

[atomic abyss]

The Akizukis are the only Japanese DDs to have any form of gunnery
...and Yuudachi

[vague socket]

Should I give shimakaze pure oxygen torpedo?

[cobalt rapids]

only in content where ure xpecting her to not die

[atomic abyss]

Her torp stat is already that high
It doesn't benefit her as much as you'd think it will

[vague socket]

hm…okay
What is her avg power?

[urban grail]

pretty sure torp is one of those stats which diminishes the higher you have

[slender heart]

It looks under-enhanced to me. Or am i dreaming?

[vague socket]

She’s maxed enhanced. The only thing I can change rn is gear

[atomic abyss]

Power is a shit metric
We don't use it

There could be many reasons why Aya is dealing more

Could be that Aya has mag torps
Could be that Aya launches later so her torps can actually hit stuff

[cobalt rapids]

shes stranger

[atomic abyss]

Could be that there's different enemies

[vague socket]

That’s probably the case. I don’t really change ships depending on the enemies. I’ll start doing that more though

[atomic abyss]

In theory tho, Aya damage should not be comparable to Shima

[stark quiver]

Is lvl125 2/3 lb Alsace good enough for w12

[jaunty vault]

yes

[cobalt rapids]

yes, u can grind even lb0 ships on w12 on safe

[atomic abyss]

Alsace is a weird one

[sweet delta]

lvl 50 2/3 lb wichitam is good enough for w13

[atomic abyss]

Hell, why are you even using her at 125 on w12

[stark quiver]

Helping some1 with fleet

[rain bobcat]

is the spearfish parallel or converging

[cobalt rapids]

parallel torps with converging rockets

[kind slate]

What should I get from gear lab? I have these + 3 champy

[frank pulsar]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[rain bobcat]

what's the plane setup for shinahaku imp

[cobalt rapids]

http://renhex.github.io/alft/46 synced templates for opsi light/med/heavy

[kind slate]

Would I be fine spending all my cores/exp packs/bps on a second 457? I’ve got all other ur gear from protoshop

[vale spindle]

sure but make sure you save enough bps for fate sim 5 and stuff

[kind slate]

Yea. I was wondering if more op gear was coming out in near future? Cuz I can make the 457 in gear lab

[jaunty vault]

PR6 UR gun should be out in January if it follows PR5 schedule
in the protoshop

[cobalt rapids]

and the first 2 457 copies are higher prio than it

[jaunty vault]

[kind slate]

First 2? You can get 2 from protoshop? Or do you mean proto + gear lab?

[cobalt rapids]

i mean till u have 2 in depot

if u somehow alr crafted 2 then getting a third over hinden gun from protocore isnt worth

[kind slate]

If I can craft another one in gear lab, is that better?

[cobalt rapids]

depends about which resource u care more
but if u got the other prios in protocore then i would just protocore it

[jaunty vault]

you mean gearlab

[signal leaf]

do aircraft carriers just attack randomly?

[stark quiver]

no wdym by that

[slender heart]

Randomly?

[unkempt mortar]

does my dr exp getting campaign become faster if i use x2 books

[jaunty vault]

it does become faster

[signal leaf]

Id see a random torpedo plane wave in the fight without me calling in a airstrike

[forest palm]

There is a targeting system in this game, everything has its order

[stark quiver]

Isn’t that a barrage?, or the asw plane ?

[signal leaf]

so carriers have barrages?

[jaunty vault]

they do, yes

[signal leaf]

I thought the only attack carriers had was the airstrike button?

[unkempt mortar]

or they just forgot they put on auto

[jaunty vault]

it could also be a fighter plane fighting planes

[signal leaf]

No fighter planes

[hollow sail]

x2 book means it basically does two runs in one go, you still pay the cost of both runs though, so twice the oil, morale, etc

[forest palm]

That's just plain wrong lol

[stark quiver]

Skill barrages

[signal leaf]

Im using saratoga rn and nah its just her supporting fire skill or whatever

[stark quiver]

Stuff fires at X amount of time into the battle

[hollow sail]

saratoga with her augment launches planes when she fires her guns

[unkempt mortar]

so it wont matter if i do 3 runs with x2 book instead of 6 runs without x2

[signal leaf]

Does her augment mention that

[stark quiver]

Sara gun?

[signal leaf]

Sara's augment yes

[hollow sail]

it does mention it

[signal leaf]

I thought it was just extra fire not actual planes lmao

[blazing shale]

Apparently BBs shoot bombs

[hollow sail]

it depends on their skills, some do, some don't

[crisp estuary]

I mixed her gun load out with my Yuudachi. I thought she had the gun I gave Yuudachi

[jaunty vault]

[crisp estuary]

[blazing shale]

Good elaboration

[atomic abyss]

We normally use barrages as a catch all term for a "barrage of attacks"

There are plane based barrages, torp based barrages, shell based barrages
Sometimes mixture of the latter 2

[jaunty vault]

we normally use barrages as a catch all term for skill based attacks

[atomic abyss]

Carriers usually only have plane barrages

[stark quiver]

butterfly

[atomic abyss]

But some like Saratoga and Lexington fling shells instead

[blazing shale]

[atomic abyss]

I mean
Yes

[forest palm]

that magical concept of reading skills, and using visual confirmation

[jaunty vault]

[forest palm]

Pretty sure you can use gear skins to separate the plane vomit from the barrage

[inner delta]

you can

[atomic abyss]

Yep
So you may see acorns flying instead

[jaunty vault]

id rather have fakkyu flying around

[forest palm]

FBK has one of my favorite plane barrage tbh

[stark quiver]

If I have around 480 cubes, are 30m ul researches worth it

[forest palm]

Sure

The minimum we ask of people is that they're above 400 before cube research

[sharp socket]

for some reason i have 630 cubes, when am i able to start cubing

[jaunty vault]

read the message above yours

[sharp socket]

alright so i cube at my own discretion

[forest palm]

As long as you stick to ULs and Blue H

[hollow sail]

a slight extra buffer would be good just in case you get really unlucky with banners

[sharp socket]

so soul forming, rainbow and blue cube

[hollow sail]

but if you only take 30m it should be fine anyway, that really won't have a meaningful impact on your cube count

[forest palm]

Yup 1 hr H research has the quickest turn around for the amount of cubes compared to the other H

[stark quiver]

i only spend cubes on 30m ul, nothing else

[hollow sail]

with that many you could take a bunch of 1h, just don't let yourself get too low, prob wise to keep at least 500

[forest palm]

H research is used early on when you don't have any ships completed as you gradually go you do H less, and less, and focus on D

[sharp socket]

what does it look like i dunno what u mean by letters

[atomic abyss]

The researches are coded by letters...

[shell willow]

blue 1h and costs 3 cubes

[sharp socket]

i cant read

[plain saffron]

skill issue

[atomic abyss]

Legitimately a skill issue

[forest palm]

Depends on which server you play on

[plain saffron]

A normal skill even

[forest palm]

well client

[sharp socket]

i just know them by name and colour

like blue rigging analysis

[plain saffron]

They have big letter

[forest palm]

I just use the code system cbf to type time or 10 to 15 letters

[shell willow]

so you cant remember a letter but can remember that yappy fantasy name

[sharp socket]

yes

[stark quiver]

I have a doc open on google at all times for references

[plain saffron]

How can you not remember D-11470-HQ

[shell willow]

[sweet delta]

I don't remember that because it doesn't exist

[plain saffron]

Anyway
H is cube
D is face
Q is rigging analysis
G is idk

[forest palm]

The first letter in the code is universally unique to that type of research, after that you look for UL, and outside of that is just visual static

[sharp socket]

what is O

[plain saffron]

That's D

[sharp socket]

whats the O with a little bit sticking out

[plain saffron]

Q

[sharp socket]

but Q sticks out the right side

[plain saffron]

Screenshot it

[stark quiver]

En

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki research acad

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Research_Academy

[sharp socket]

wait nevermind it sticks out the right direction

[stark quiver]

Truly en

[plain saffron]

dyslexia

[sharp socket]

i blame bad font

[shell willow]

[forest palm]

The font is pretty shit

[sharp socket]

is sandy a gun cl

[forest palm]

D can look like O, and B can look like 8, outside of that it's legible enough

[stark quiver]

She is AA wit good gun

[plain saffron]

Btw help

[forest palm]

Sandy wants a DD gun like all the other CL that can use a DD gun

[stark quiver]

I think so

[sweet delta]

Try #pvp

[plain saffron]

That place is scary

[sharp socket]

i think i can try learning pvp since now im just waiting for stuff to grind

[sweet delta]

Less scary than some other places

[vale spindle]

yes some of them do
if they have a barrage its listed somewhere in their skill

[forest palm]

[jaunty vault]

im scarier

[forest palm]

As scary as a kitten you are

[sharp socket]

can strongholds and abyssal overlap

[ivory crown]

these r max mlb should i sell

[tame jungle]

not sure, but if they can you can click on the picture to see the different stages in a zone

[steady beacon]

Can confirm without the slightest hesitation, you are not one one-hundredth as scary as the scariest PvPers on just Amagi

[blazing shale]

#al-general

[jaunty vault]

we got ourselves a gph mod here

[stark quiver]

PvP has no lifes, general has degens different

[blazing shale]

Did I hit a hypocrite's nerve

[jaunty vault]

[steady beacon]

[atomic abyss]

[blazing shale]

Oh right, ender's here

[jaunty vault]

#al-general

[blazing shale]

Can you take care of this rage baiter

[vagrant spoke]

How does the fire control table work with bbs that have preload

[ivory crown]

?

[steady beacon]

It affects the first salvo after the preload

[jaunty vault]

yes

[hollow sail]

you need langley for CV reload tech

[vagrant spoke]

What scenario do you use the fire control table? Is it better than white or black shell?

[jaunty vault]

yep

[inland shoal]

If you're short on dock space sure ig. You will want to raise another dupe of Langley to 120 in the future though

[blazing shale]

@errant prairie

[steady beacon]

Almost always, really
If you don't want the accuracy, then you often want the staggering

[hollow sail]

and langley also can speed up your CDC and the 120 grind of other botes

[blazing shale]

mobile app 10/10

[jaunty vault]

whats bro doing

[blazing shale]

@inner delta

Can you take care of @jaunty vault trolling

[finite crag]

poor nanobreaker

[jaunty vault]

hi yuki hru

[vagrant spoke]

Soo does the fire control table replace black shell or white shell?

[stark quiver]

Replaces fire control radar

[steady beacon]

Black shell typically

[stark quiver]

Oh brain lag

[blazing shale]

Doesn't the table have a faster fire rate btw? So it's mostly a mob/sync item right?

[inner delta]

it is not faster

it's the same with more stat

[stark quiver]

Iirc makes ship hit more stuff, which is good cuz damage n whatnot

[jaunty vault]

not faster than fcr

[blazing shale]

It's the same as a black shell you mean?

[steady beacon]

Honestly, in most cases, you could replace either, but in boss fights you typically want to bank on more ACC anyway, hence why you drop the black shell

[inner delta]

no

[jaunty vault]

more hitrate doesn't mean hitting more stuff
it means hitting with higher accuracy

[inland shoal]

It's the same as HPFCR

[inner delta]

fire control is the same with table

[blazing shale]

Oh I see now thanks

[inland shoal]

Which is often used in bossing

[jaunty vault]

btw yuki, someone pinged you above, can you check what its about

[blazing shale]

Its about you yapping and baiting

[jaunty vault]

[vagrant spoke]

Can someone link me the cv sync tool

[atomic abyss]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

[steady beacon]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

[vagrant spoke]

Thx

[midnight pewter]

How is zuikaku and shoukaku? Are they strong

[steady beacon]

Lel
This is my punishment for all the sniping

[atomic abyss]

weak

shoukaku could be used if you have absolutely nothing else
but there are purples that are better and more worth investing in so

[vagrant spoke]

Is there one for bb by any chance

[steady beacon]

Generally avoid using them, unless really desperate
And that is coming from someone who loves them dearly and makes a point to kill Arbiters with them

[atomic abyss]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/battleship/

[vagrant spoke]

Nice thx

[jaunty vault]

there's other useful tools by the same guy on his website

[midnight pewter]

Alright im just asking cos ive never used then

[jaunty vault]

do check them out

[midnight pewter]

There are just afking in my fleet

[steady beacon]

One indisputable point in their favour
AVI+2 each

[atomic abyss]

on a side note
wasn't shoukek used in early shinano comps

[steady beacon]

Ye

[atomic abyss]

2/2/4 loadout is nice

[jaunty vault]

wasnt it more because of her skills and the fact that she's IJN

[steady beacon]

Still has some potential in weird shit
But now, with no shortage of options, it's much, much, much harder to justify

[atomic abyss]

2/2/4 that's also IJN, and nice buffing skills

i think she's the only carrier besides centaur ark and nano-nano that has more than 3 TB?

[jaunty vault]

nah

[atomic abyss]

non UR* carrier

[tame jungle]

independence retro has 4

[steady beacon]

Albion has 4 as well

[jaunty vault]

there's aquila

[atomic abyss]

oh right i forgot albion and indep
aquila too huh

[tame jungle]

[steady beacon]

Also
Formidable

[jaunty vault]

aquila is 2/2/4 that can also do 4/4

[cobalt rapids]

klaudia, glorious, chikalov

[vagrant spoke]

In a soyuz, vanguard, Alsace fleet who should the fire control table go to

[hollow sail]

i use them for challenge mode

[steady beacon]

[cobalt rapids]

depends on timing and who benefits more but generally soyuz or alsace

[steady beacon]

I mean, always Als or Soy
Vang gets the HPFCR
Now, which of Als or Soy I haven't figured out to my satisfaction ngl

[plain saffron]

Merit shop refresh daily right?

[steady beacon]

Yep

[plain saffron]

Thanks

[jaunty vault]

preferably soyuz (she has lower HIT so she benefits more; probably)

[cobalt rapids]

u havent seen sushi's afct vanny setup smh

[steady beacon]

That's a good argument tbh

[jaunty vault]

[steady beacon]

A triple BB fleet with Vanguard, Alsace, Soyuz?

[cobalt rapids]

bz vanny and alsace

[steady beacon]

Sounds like a page out of PvP psyops

[bleak dock]

Collabs gonna have another rerun? Like the Marie Rose one

[steady beacon]

We honestly don't know for sure anymore
We once assumed collab reruns were impossible... until like April of last year

[bleak dock]

[atomic abyss]

collab reruns depend on the other company

they do not return (if ever) on a regular schedule

[bleak dock]

ah ok ty

[steady beacon]

Tbf, we do know of ONE pretty reliable collab every year

[atomic abyss]

wows yeah...

[vale lotus]

can a ship become 'un-oathed' if their affinity drops below 100?

[rapid grail]

stat increases* are based on affinity they have so yea iirc

[opaque sleet]

okay, thank you!

[vale lotus]

so the oath ring just disappears?

[jaunty vault]

no you won't lose the ring

[vale lotus]

does it come back if affection is restored?

[jaunty vault]

oath raises affinity cap from 100 to 200
at 100-199 affinity you get 3% more stats than love (6 to 9%)
at 200 the bonus is 12%
after oathing the lowest stat bonus you'll have is 9% if you somehow wreck your affinity below 100
some ships have additional oath skins or oath lines

[rapid grail]

no the ring stays on them
unless you decide to retire them in which case you are not getting the ring back

does it come back if affection is restored?
the stat increases do, yes

[atomic abyss]

the oath effect remains
they just lose the stats

[jaunty vault]

[vale lotus]

so if I oathed a ship and it suddenly loses oathed portrait, status etc then that's cause for concern

[atomic abyss]

you will be prompted when sortie-ing if your ship is at low morale to begin with

[jaunty vault]

[atomic abyss]

you will definitely notice it unless you're mindlessly clicking thru menus

[finite crag]

just dont treat your ships like free labour

[vale lotus]

it already happened

[atomic abyss]

then just stop using her?

[plain saffron]

How many items in merit shop at a tiem?

[vale lotus]

no I mean the ring is just gone, and her affinity is 99

[jaunty vault]

nagami what are you cooking

[jaunty vault]

@vale lotus @vale lotus

[finite crag]

well get her affinity back up then

[jaunty vault]

.

[plain saffron]

Wiki stuff and can't open game rn

[jaunty vault]

opening the game for you rq

[plain saffron]

You won't lose the oath
You lose the ring though because you use it for osth

[heavy zealot]

Whats operation siren?

[vale lotus]

I know about the stats, I'm just worried my game bugged out and I've just straight up lost my oathed status on a character

[plain saffron]

Click battle then there's a big banner on right side

[atomic abyss]

a game mode where you get a lot of your late/end game gears

[vale lotus]

it's just gone

[plain saffron]

It won't gone in any circumstances unless desync

Or you retire them

[jaunty vault]

then bring it back up to 100+ and you'll be fine

[atomic abyss]

just raise the affection back up to 100

[finite crag]

well have you tried just getting the affinity back up instead of freaking out

[plain saffron]

Ouh nvm i just understand it

It's just display, you still oathed to them

[heavy zealot]

Operation siren, right? Should i be trying to do stuff there?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[atomic abyss]

yes

[jaunty vault]

10

[plain saffron]

Thanks, love you

[jaunty vault]

love you too

[vale lotus]

Was asking this for a friend, turns out he was using the wrong account. Apologies for wasting everyone's time.

I'm going to go kill him now

[plain saffron]

:laes:

[finite crag]

ah yes the good ol asking for a friend

[vale lotus]

yeah doesn't sound very believable huh? oh well

[jaunty vault]

do i need to clear EX again if i did it on og run for coggies

[dusk maple]

check missions tab

[weary scroll]

Is vanguard worth using cubes to get

[jaunty vault]

yes

[rapid grail]

use it after you bust all your build tickets that the rerun event gives

[crimson glacier]

how many cubes do you have to spare

[weary scroll]

Ok

Like 350 rn

Nvm I got lucky and got her in 10

[jaunty vault]

pog

[tame jungle]

huge

[weary scroll]

Is she any good?

[atomic abyss]

one of the best BBs in the game
*when MLB

[primal silo]

Nice.

[pliant acorn]

Hello,whats the best AA CV? Im planning to clean w13-Hardmode

[weary scroll]

I have 3 bulins rn so I’ll mlb her

[atomic abyss]

the CVs that are best at AA tend to not be the best at damage
so the better question is what AA frontliners do you have

cos it's the vanguard that's gonna do most of the AA

[weary scroll]

Wait no I need 4 right

[atomic abyss]

yes you need 4

[cedar willow]

can i farm for Cheshire with these ships?

[pliant acorn]

This is my fleet compo

[atomic abyss]

ofc you can
just a matter of how long it takes

[rapid grail]

anyone who's HMS works, just lvl 95+, MLB and with decent gearing

[atomic abyss]

independence retro for fleet 1, that should be enough

[quick mason]

Is PR4 still the best option for research when it comes to gear farming? Or should I switch it to pr6 now?

[pliant acorn]

Thanks thanks

[atomic abyss]

4
6 has no claim on 4

[cedar willow]

does Javelin need retro and unique agument to work?

[quick mason]

Alright thanks

[atomic abyss]

it's just cdc grind for PR
no need retro or aug

[rapid grail]

imo PR4 still the best generalist PR seasons atm even w/ current PRs

[atomic abyss]

yep

[burnt idol]

do formations actually do something?

[plain saffron]

Yes

Single +dmg -eva
Double +eva -dmg
Circle +aa

[jaunty vault]

clixk on that info button when setting formations

[burnt idol]

thankss

[heavy zealot]

Done retrofit unicorn...helena next?

[atomic abyss]

no, helena retro is lower prio
portland and your starteer

[heavy zealot]

Oh, okay

[fast plaza]

its ok to awaken z23 right?

[atomic abyss]

if you're using her, yes ofc, cog awaken her over 100

[fast plaza]

thank you

[balmy matrix]

Do practice arbiter have same power as normal arbiter?

[fast plaza]

who should i use as BB instead of warspite? she was all i had for a while....

[solid delta]

Do I covert prototype data into cores for weapon sr blueprints?

[jaunty vault]

practice is hard arby so it should be harder

[atomic abyss]

nelson and pennsylvania

[rapid grail]

yes, always do that to get pr series gear

[jaunty vault]

yes, do /protocore in bot spam for what weapons to spend it on

[atomic abyss]

i guess rossiya is fine too

[fast plaza]

thanks again

[balmy matrix]

Damn I thought it's weaker than normal one

[plain saffron]

Is it hard arby

[balmy matrix]

So I should clear practice arby to fight the arbiter in the middle of map?

[jaunty vault]

oh you mean that

...

yeah umm

[balmy matrix]

It's still locked

[jaunty vault]

practice arby is easier than normal arby and you need to kill it three times to unlock normal arby

then you need to kill normal arby to unlock hard arby
and then kill hard arby to unlock practice fights with hard arby

hard arby can be "practiced" infinitely but only gives rewards once for each milestone each month

hope that helps

[balmy matrix]

my bad making you confused

[eternal basalt]

If you fight the training for Arbiter, can you check what the required stats are for them. Are they still bugged?

[cedar willow]

uhmm any guides for siren? i don't know what to do

[jaunty vault]

are you done with story?

[cedar willow]

still at w13

[jaunty vault]

i mean opsi story

[eternal basalt]

Read the wiki page on Operation Siren

[jaunty vault]

does it tell you what to do

[cedar willow]

sorry, but where to check it?

[jaunty vault]

/wiki operation siren

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Azur Lane Wiki

Multiple results found

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren_Exploration
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Memories/Operation_Siren

Jul 23, 2024, 10:42 AM

[balmy matrix]

It's 180 180 180 for enforcer

[heady pier]

is there anyone worth 125 or no?

[atomic abyss]

all except javelin tbh

at least, if you are using them

[heady pier]

yea they still on my fleet for a good time

[exotic wren]

The subs are fine at 120

[heady pier]

alr then ill 125 2 or 3 units for now

[undone plover]

u dont rly need to 125 sth just cause u can
wait till u actually need it

arrays are very limited

[tender nova]

Is she good?

[atomic abyss]

vanguard? UR so yes she's very good

top 5 BB in game

[tender nova]

tyty

[sinful escarp]

her debuff is the her main draw
compared to other UR BB her damage is not that high

[whole crypt]

her own damage isn't as high but the debuff portion is huge when you add it up across the fleet

[solid delta]

yes if you have the bullins

[silk helm]

what ships do i put this on?

[atomic abyss]

as shown in the very pic you sent, for CBs

AP gun, so CBs fighting med/heavy armour

[silk helm]

i dont have a filter for CBs

[frank pulsar]

cb is under ca tag for filter

[atomic abyss]

there's like, 5? 6? CBs in the entire game anyways

[frank pulsar]

the game like to group up "minority" hull types with the bigger ones, like e.g. bbv and bc are under bb for the filter

[atomic abyss]

Azuma, Agir, Brest, Kronshtadt, Guam and Kala Ideas from Ryza

so rainbows

[frank pulsar]

cb kalas feels like a lie

[silk helm]

ohh only rainbows

[blissful hamlet]

is akagi kaga the only IJN backline that have fast load?

[atomic abyss]

akagi muse has it too

[blissful hamlet]

is there any other?

[atomic abyss]

amagi also gets it with 3 other IJNs

[cobalt rapids]

amagi aswell

[atomic abyss]

and i think that's all

[blissful hamlet]

I see

[glossy forum]

any of these iron blood ships good for pr xp grinding or do i just waifumaxx?

[blissful hamlet]

all of them except the purple and eugen

tho you probably want to mlb the ship first before using them for pr grind

[inland shoal]

The purples are all FP tech tho

[keen sable]

all good at getting xp. some gooder than others

[obtuse knoll]

Is the banner up until tomorrow or the day after?

so 1 more daily reset I guess?

[tame jungle]

correct

[keen sable]

42.5 hours

[obtuse knoll]

[noble tulip]

I should fish for flames over level 1 reload right

[sharp comet]

farm fate5 for pr6 ships or start with pr7?

[jaunty vault]

start PR7

is that AA rookie base talent

flame would definitely be better

[shell willow]

is this "Mental Unit II" some equipment?

[plain saffron]

cog array

[shell willow]

ahh 💤

[plain saffron]

idk why jp call them cog chips II

[jaunty vault]

google translate be like

[plain saffron]

yeah surely google translate add that II

[jaunty vault]

ong

[plain saffron]

メンタルユニット・Ⅱ

[forest palm]

that literally reads Mental Unit lmao

[jaunty vault]

we do be a lil mental

mentaru unitto

[plain saffron]

me

[forest palm]

yunitto

just remember if it's written in Katakana it's more than likely not a google translate thing

[jaunty vault]

bold of you to assume i can differentiate hiragana and katakana

[forest palm]

[old lark]

How exactly do I decide whether a ship has low or high AA when it comes to choosing an accelerator or carry AA gun? Is there a specific AA stat threshold to keep in mind?

[undone plover]

AA stat, efficiency, number of mounts and skill all matter
easiest to just ask here tbh

[old lark]

I see, and speaking of number of mounts. Is there a direct way to check the number of gun mounts/planes for any ship or do I have to go to the limit break tab to see every +X they get on each LB and add them up?

[undone plover]

wiki is easier

[old lark]

Got it, thank you very much!

[keen sable]

simplistically slot efficiency * aa stat/100 * mounts is close enough

[jaunty vault]

yes but how do you know what's high or low

[keen sable]

anything over 15 is high

everything else is low

[jaunty vault]

laff2 gets a 4.932

[crimson glacier]

what does sandy get

[jaunty vault]

sandy gets 13.135 if you ignore this skill

When this ship fires its Anti-Air Guns: 15% chance to increase the AA of your entire fleet by 30% (50%) for 8s
but dont ignore skill2 (flat 25% AA stat increase)

[keen sable]

i get 22.1 but if you are en math you might end up with 13

[crimson glacier]

how do you get 13

[keen sable]

pretend she has no skills

sandy's aa stat is much higher than her base stat

same thing with laffii. if you pretend she doesn't have a ghost aa or skills then her aa is mediocre

[crimson glacier]

got 16 without fleet buff and 22 with it

[neat chasm]

Can anyone please share me Napoli voice lines

[keen sable]

shouldn't youtube have it?

[forest palm]

#al-general with you

[jaunty vault]

meth

[crimson glacier]

shouldnt it be 145 and not 125

either you forgot the aug or i didnt understand the aug

[old lark]

I see, thank you!

[jaunty vault]

i did forget the aug

[keen sable]

i didn't even include aug but yes 1.45 is minimum aa buff

like i said simplistic. the actual is (aa stat+100)/100. so fair enough when we ignore gear and everything maybe the threshold is more around 12

[jaunty vault]

now how much weightage do i give laff2 ghost AA

[keen sable]

simplistically i just add 1(100%) to efficiency

mathetically it's like another aa mount with 100% slot efficiency

in reality her gun might suck or it might be great

[rare ridge]

Where u can find augment guide tierlist?

[undone plover]

for the generic augments https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/equipment#augment_module
for the unique ones I dont think there is an official list of which ones are best

i rememeber hood, sara, kawakaze, taihou
sandy aug is also great
and izumo

but that doenst mean u should craft them all

[atomic abyss]

Shangri-La as well

[forest palm]

always say it, but if you're going to throw Taihou in their you may as well throw Graf Zep in too

[cobalt rapids]

theres this TL, still updated

[spring bolt]

well, CN loves lists
https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/井号碧蓝榜合集#专武推荐榜

[undone plover]

I must have been quoting that cuz I remember those 4 always being mentioned but no one mentioned zeppy

eugen tier A+

[forest palm]

CN loves bulk, and that's what that UE does...

[cobalt rapids]

if no speak moonrunes without context these looks questionable at best

[forest palm]

huh...there's a Cross Fleet tier list on that page if I'm interpreting that right...

[spring bolt]

yes you are correct

[forest palm]

what's the current opinion of the La-9 on the CN side of things, with regards to CVs, and Kears

[undone plover]

they also have an opsi port shop prio list

[spring bolt]

according to the most recent test result sheet i saw, la9 does gives you improvements even you are off helena sync after a few takeoffs, but not much
and due to its slow speed, big pain in the ass for all kinds of syncs

[atomic abyss]

we need a helena aug to make her scans slower then

[forest palm]

sounds like the equivalent of the 460, or Proto Mk6

but that's interest

[spring bolt]

well it's much easier for 460 as it's way too slow and beyond help, but for la9, yes it is slow but it's not like you can't save it... but saving it may not worth the trouble in the end

[atomic abyss]

AUTOLOADAAAAA

wait that only helps kears

[spring bolt]

gold bacon

coping

[forest palm]

so if I'm to understand the oppertunity cost is high with the La-9

[inner delta]

[whole crypt]

sounds like what happened to Skyraider as well

[plain saffron]

btw in merit shop it's impossible to get 2 of same items right?

[spring bolt]

never paid much attention but likely yes, as i never seen 2 cubes in merit shop at the same time

[abstract latch]

When making augment modules, should i use the auto select options? Or should i just use the blue module stones and save the yellow ones?

[jaunty vault]

former

[abstract latch]

Does it make any difference?

[jaunty vault]

it doesn't

[abstract latch]

Oh

[undone plover]

when crafting purple augments tho it is better to uncap a blue version, saves u 2 augment cores

[silk helm]

can i use vanguard in my mob fleet to level it up

[jaunty vault]

sure you can

[abstract latch]

Okay

[keen sable]

that is typically where ships get leveled up

[faint kite]

is arbiter light or heavy

[cobalt rapids]

this month light

[abstract latch]

Is helena worth it to retrofit?

[keen sable]

can't really do her thing if she's dead so yes eventually?

[abstract latch]

Okei

[karmic pebble]

Does the extra stage in events give the event currency

Or it's just useless

[keen sable]

chips are good stuff

[burnt idol]

is hard mode really the one and only way to get core edata

[silk sphinx]

Pretty much yes. Some events give like 700 at certain milestone but those are rare

[tame jungle]

Pretty much yeah, so just do them every day

[silk sphinx]

By far hard mode is the main source of them

[burnt idol]

damn i gotta stop doing 1-1 and progress my hard mode

[silk sphinx]

You also want retrofit blueprints by the way

And hard mode is also their main source

[whole crypt]

you don't have to "progress" hard mode, you can go straight to the highest chapter you have 3-starred on normal

[burnt idol]

oh

[kind needle]

Is the event gonna end tom or the day after?

[silk sphinx]

It ends in around 37 hours

[burnt idol]

is theer a like strat or specific stage to do on hard mode for efficiency or just do the highest one?

[tame jungle]

Thursday 00:00 UTC+8

[silk sphinx]

Highest world

[burnt idol]

okei thanks

[kind needle]

I still don’t have vanguard, idk if I have time left, 0 cubes, 169 pity, idk if I should spend or not

[silk sphinx]

All hard mode stages of the same world give the same amount of core data, just different retrofit blueprints

[silk sphinx]

169 pity… you’re pretty close. Damn. Well idk what to say, you can go broke for her though

[lyric stump]

whos worth working on for the pr grind

[silk sphinx]

Vanguard is worth going broke for, plus you wouldn’t be wasting that many pulls even if you didn’t get her

[lyric stump]

ignore shinano shes just uh another shinano for skins

[whole crypt]

anyone not capped

[kind needle]

Nano

[lyric stump]

i have a 125 one already this is just to use the other skin

[silk sphinx]

I can tell you who has better tech if that was your concern?

[kind needle]

Oh

[lyric stump]

ya sure

like choose 3

[hollow gust]

Almost all of them have strong tech

[whole crypt]

besides the littles of course

[lyric stump]

ik souryuu is good

[lyric stump]

for cv rld tech

[silk sphinx]

Blue is rld red is hit green is plus 2 avi

[lyric stump]

tysm

[silk sphinx]

There’s shinano which should be a prio obv if you have her mlb

[lyric stump]

i have one already

[silk sphinx]

Oh and izumo is 2fp

[lyric stump]

its skin displayer

[hollow gust]

Akagi is also cv avi while Amagi is bb fp

[silk sphinx]

Only one though

[hollow gust]

So?

They are stronger ships then the rest of the fodder

[lyric stump]

the first 5 is already 120

[silk sphinx]

I pointed out priorities, but sure

[lyric stump]

so i guess fuso yamashiro and housho

[whole crypt]

just do Houshou/Souryuu/Hiryuu, you'll be done with Daisen before they're anywhere near cap anyway

[lyric stump]

ya i see ty

[lyric stump]

u mean i should get 2 lv125 shiananos???

[whole crypt]

no

[hollow gust]

[silk sphinx]

No I meant, akagi kaga and amagi only give 1 fp or avi at lv120

[lyric stump]

o ok

[whole crypt]

just do Houshou/Souryuu/Hiryuu, you'll be done with Daisen before they're anywhere near cap anyway

[silk sphinx]

That’s kind of worse than the others I highlighted which are either rld, hit or 2 avi or fp

[lyric stump]

11-1 is same exp:oil ratio to 12-4 right? and easier?

[silk sphinx]

Better ratio but no chips and worse coin

[lyric stump]

its ok

[hollow gust]

But they are stronger which means you have a faster clearing time , also tech is still tech

[whole crypt]

11-1 is better XP/oil but it drops 0 chips, 0 aug stones and worse coins

[lyric stump]

nvm its lethal

[silk sphinx]

What?

[whole crypt]

12-1 is just better

[viscid swift]

nevermind, rush of shit to the brain moment

[lyric stump]

the threat

[whole crypt]

you don't need to worry about lv 70 carriers dying

[silk sphinx]

I was responding to cheeky don’t worry

[lyric stump]

is this fine for 12-1??

[whole crypt]

not sure why you chose Fusou and Yamashiro but if they're properly geared sure

[elfin hollow]

Anyone has the link to shipgirl fire rate speed? The calculator that depending on skills and gear calculates rate of fire and seconds between main guns shots?

[lyric stump]

bb rld ??

[elfin hollow]

Yes

[whole crypt]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/battleship/
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/tools

[cobalt rapids]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/battleship/

[elfin hollow]

Tyvm both of ya

[craggy hemlock]

which bbs are best for a pvp fleet

[whole crypt]

#pvp

[ruby knot]

Iirc chapter 12 don't really have much planes

Just slap some AA on vanguard and you're done

[eager mulch]

[eternal moth]

Who should I finish?

Thinking not NJ since I can just get her from regular pills at one point

[whole crypt]

if you can wait yeh, in which case Soyuz would generally be more impactful than the other two, though either of the vanguards will cost you less bulins if you already have enough rainbow BBs to go around

[eternal moth]

Okay thanks, kinda feeling a little over saturated with BBs so I might just upgrade the other two

[whole crypt]

do them one at a time, don't split up your LBs

[crimson glacier]

i just dont see much value in mog

[eternal moth]

I was gonna do Unzen

[hollow gust]

UR bbs will still be more influential

[sweet delta]

[eternal moth]

Does Vanny get a radar if running Soyuz/Alsace? I thought Soyuz was pretty slow.

[sweet delta]

.

[eternal moth]

Actually, top comp is Bis/Soyuz/Vanguard right? Or is Al better than Vanny?

Let's say for heavy Meta fights

[hollow gust]

Bis soyuz Alsace for opsi

[sweet delta]

Depends on the battle still, but for "general" heavy use Musashi Bisz Vang or Alsace if the battle is really short

[inland shoal]

Especially for meta the comps are heavily reliant on the gimmicks

[eternal moth]

Yeah, i probably should have gone with harbiter instead

[sweet delta]

The general heavy meta showdown boss is named Arizona

Harbiter is too easy for it to matter if you can choose between rainbow BBs

[stark quiver]

What one shot fleets were run for Arizona meta

[eternal moth]

I'm looking at the difference between Alsace and Vanguard, and it seems like Alsace would be better in pretty much every case. When would Vanguard be better?

[patent pivot]

on heavy, BiZ does slightly worse, alsace is slightly better, and soyuz is slightly worse

[eternal moth]

Why test with double shell and not radars?

[stark quiver]

I can’t bring cats into meta fights right?

[eternal moth]

Correct

[patent pivot]

radar wasnt a consistent 4 salvo with some gun variation iirc, so no BB rld no radar made it a consistent 3 across all tests

[eternal moth]

Oh wait, number 2 is replacing Soyuz, not Alsace. Hmm...

[patent pivot]

im running test again w/radar and 4 salvo soon™️

[eternal moth]

I need to check timings, but AFCT on BiZ/second and double shell on Vanguard usually results in pretty good consistency

Assuming max enhance/oathed Vanny that is

If running Soyuz instead of Vanguard, I'm not sure which of the 2 would take the table.

[patent pivot]

well Vanguards damage is practically 0, so the choice should be pretty apparent

[eternal moth]

Which is why I said "If running Soyuz instead of Vanguard"

[patent pivot]

you run table on your highest 2 dmg, between soy and als testing needs to be run to see if the reduced spread of flangun makes it worth it even though her personal dmg is much lower than soy

my hunch is that its better on soy, but thats just a hunch

[eternal moth]

Soyuz is confirmed much higher than Alsace? If so, that makes sense

[patent pivot]

though if you are talking heavy soy goes down and als goes up which may tilt the scales

[zinc cloud]

Is the vanguard event worth rolling as someone who just started a few days ago? Lv 30, chapter 4

[patent pivot]

ive never bothered to run als heavy so idk

[reef flume]

Yes

[eternal moth]

Vanguard herself is very much worth it, the other ships not as much

[zinc cloud]

Only have 82 cubes so we'll see how it goes I guess lol. I was told to not roll until chapter 9 like the noob guide suggests

[eternal moth]

That doesn't sound right. Which guide are you looking at?