gameplay-help

[charred pollen]

What’s the current best ap gun for ca’s

[soft raft]

Hindenburg gun from PR6

[charred pollen]

The rainbow gun?

[soft raft]

Yee

[forest palm]

Proto Triple 203 SKC

lovely naming convention, I swear

[agile nacelle]

is foch META worth investing in?

[soft raft]

Nope

[agile nacelle]

aw mannn

newbie mistake

[soft raft]

Cruise pass METAs are almost universally dogshit outside of Fortune META for #pvp and the few that have valueable fleet tech bonuses

[agile nacelle]

oh okkk

what about Z23

[remote yarrow]

She's your starter DD, pretty decent and you should use her throughout early campaign

[gloomy mesa]

Fate sim on roon important ?

[soft raft]

Decent enough until like W12 where you should have better options by then

[gloomy mesa]

Why?

[stark quiver]

she not good

[soft raft]

It affects her mostly useless shields

[remote yarrow]

Roon is just tech fodder towards FdG at this point

[gloomy mesa]

Yeah that's the reason I'm asking why it's a little important

Okay good o can ignore roon now

[soft raft]

more like it's such a miniscule improvement that it's whatever

[agile nacelle]

my fleet😔

not that good

[remote yarrow]

That's awful

[agile nacelle]

yeah.....

[remote yarrow]

Use the recommended starter fleet from the guide Blaster linked

[agile nacelle]

i need to input other stuff

[gloomy mesa]

Oh wait need to hit 120 with Roon First, right?

[agile nacelle]

sorry which one?

can i have da link

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[soft raft]

*120
And not really urgently
Obtain and MLB/D30 make up the majority of a ship's tech points

[remote yarrow]

But isntead of Javelin use Z23

[agile nacelle]

oh ok

[stark quiver]

enterprise can be replaced by long island for now

[remote yarrow]

Or Ranger

If you got Saratoga she's also a pretty decent ship

[gloomy mesa]

Btw who comes After FdG, Odin?

[agile nacelle]

oh ok

[stark quiver]

pr4

[agile nacelle]

what's the bottom right one called?

[remote yarrow]

FdG > Anchorage > Agir > Rest of PR4

[soft raft]

FdG > All of PR4 > Plymouth (And possible Brest) > Everyone else in terms of priority

[stark quiver]

javelin , use your starter

[remote yarrow]

Javelin, Starter DD, but in your case it should be Z23

[agile nacelle]

oh okkkk

thank you all

the rest of the stuff i have; any ways to improve the starter fleet?

[remote yarrow]

Not really

[agile nacelle]

like by replacing other things etc

[gloomy mesa]

Hmm, EU tech is going to be a problem for Anchorage, need another 130

[remote yarrow]

You will use Unicorn in 99% of cases, you need to retrofit Portland and your Starter DD for rookie missions

[gloomy mesa]

HOW THE F DO YOU HAVE SHINANO ALREADY!?

[agile nacelle]

umm got a lil lucky

[candid meteor]

he got lucky prob

[late flame]

or unlucky

[soft raft]

not like pulling heavy/special pool was a good idea to start off with

[remote yarrow]

Oh that, don't pull in permanent banners

[viscid swift]

Ticonderoga instead of Enterprise for the time being, and Z47 instead of Helena since you've already invested in her

[agile nacelle]

k got that i used up like 20 wisdom cubes in vanguard banner

[stark quiver]

oh thats fine then

[remote yarrow]

Well Vanguard's an Event banner

[candid meteor]

uset itckets first on this banner

[remote yarrow]

And you can't get Shinano from Vanguard's banner tho so you did pull on permanent

[agile nacelle]

alright

[gloomy mesa]

Wait Nano drops from event Banner as well?

[late flame]

+Shinano is also useless until you have enough UR Bulins to MLB her

[soft raft]

Perma URs do not drop from any event banners period

[candid meteor]

he prob did heavy or special pulls daily or something idk

[ornate narwhal]

how many teams would i need eventually?

[gloomy mesa]

How does one decide who to pick between NJ and Nano?

[gloomy mesa]

Like 4

[stark quiver]

2 at most for campaign , 4 for opsi

[gloomy mesa]

But that's a long way to go

[agile nacelle]

so this is better?

[forest palm]

in ops you only really need 1 ~ 2 fleets lol

[agile nacelle]

but wouldn't that mean that my main would be severely underleveled?

[stark quiver]

book

[remote yarrow]

When you reach 400/400 cubes used in SR Event/Permanent banners you can redeem any of the two, aka Shinano since there's better UR BBs

[late flame]

Edit : oh right, forgor +Shimakaze added

[remote yarrow]

But you can also get any of them from Heavy/Special, which you shouldn't

[soft raft]

That's what the dom is for
And also the free XP Books you get every week

[plain saffron]

Shima already in there

[late flame]

oh right

[agile nacelle]

ahhh ok

[soft raft]

She's alreayd in perma pools lol

[agile nacelle]

what level should i aim for?( a bit of a dumb question)

[soft raft]

at mininum the same lvl as the enemies in the map

[agile nacelle]

k thank you

[stark quiver]

how to get lvl130 ships

[late flame]

get your own delorean

[agile nacelle]

last question: should i grind event to get the rainbow gear thingy or grind campaign

[stark quiver]

event

[late flame]

EN moment for me (just saw Shimakaze in banner)

[agile nacelle]

ok im guessing event ( imma get to c2 and stop for the gold plane)

[gloomy mesa]

When should I consider investing in vanguard?

[stark quiver]

d3 preferred

[stark quiver]

what urs do u have

[remote yarrow]

Grinding gear in maps is a bad idea, if you can go to D3, if not:
D3 > D1 > C2 > B3

[gloomy mesa]

Sandy-kai, Alsace, Mogador and vanguard

[stark quiver]

whos mlb

[agile nacelle]

k

[gloomy mesa]

Grinding FdG exp right now

[agile nacelle]

thank you gotta go grind now

[gloomy mesa]

Everyone besides vanguard

[stark quiver]

you can go vanguard

[remote yarrow]

One last thing, you should try to get Vanguard if you haven't yet, but before using up your cubes you should use your Tickets (up to 44 throughout the whole event)

[gloomy mesa]

Why?

[remote yarrow]

Cuz she's a really good Ship

[stark quiver]

huh, u asked when? well do u have 4 bulins?

[late flame]

specifically 4 UR Bulins

[gloomy mesa]

Nope, just asking for future reference.

Like I have 2 bullins

[remote yarrow]

Well, wait till you have/can get 4 Bulins and then ask again

If no other UR releases before that go Vanguard

[gloomy mesa]

Still would like to understand why vanguard is a good investment right now

[gloomy mesa]

Ah okay

[soft raft]

Very good utility in triple BB comps

[eternal plinth]

Okay shelling damage but really good bb buffer

[gloomy mesa]

So eg. Alsace, FdG and vanguard

[soft raft]

if you lack BZ and Soyuz (or even NJ) sure ig

[remote yarrow]

pretty much, but that's for opsi

[eternal plinth]

+10% damage taken by all enemies, and +8% more from your bbs after gun load

[remote yarrow]

Triple BB backline isn't that good in campaign

[gloomy mesa]

Yeah thought it was odd, FdG is a mob ship, and Alsace a boss ship, correct?

[eternal plinth]

Alsace seems good for either

[gloomy mesa]

So vanguard supposed to buff boss ships?

[eternal plinth]

Pretty much yes

[stark quiver]

alsace both for either, vanguard buffs bb

[gloomy mesa]

Oh okay

[soft raft]

Not specifically Boss ships but 99% of her useage is in the context of OpSi boss comps so technically yes

[gloomy mesa]

Thanks for the explanation

Can roon be a good replacement for laffey-kai?

[remote yarrow]

They don't serve the same purpose

[gloomy mesa]

Lol, didn't think replacing would take this long

[remote yarrow]

It's not that you are struggling with content to need better ships I think?

[stark quiver]

could just make thread

[remote yarrow]

And good or decent replacements just take time to get

[gloomy mesa]

No not really, but I'm preparing for w13 so I think I should start looking for a replacement for her

[teal lance]

I got 2 portlands, what do i do with dupes of any characters?

[stark quiver]

use them to limit break

[remote yarrow]

Use for Limitbreaking the higher level one or just retire if already MLB, no reason to raise dupes

[gloomy mesa]

Use for Limit break, or scrape them if they are already MLB

[teal lance]

same character can only limit break copies?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah

[gloomy mesa]

Yes

[remote yarrow]

You limit break with copies or bulins

[stark quiver]

[remote yarrow]

Well Laffey can work in your mob fleet, for W13 you need a couple AA ships

You already got Sandy Kai

[frank pulsar]

if you have sandy you can just slot her in mob and stack as much dmg as possible on boss

[gloomy mesa]

Yeah, also Juneau

[frank pulsar]

no need to stress so much about aa

[teal lance]

can affinity go down onces its at 100?

i want to swithc out dorm and front page

[soft raft]

at 0

[remote yarrow]

If you keep sortieing with a ship that has 0 morale you can

[gloomy mesa]

Even after they are outhed?

[frank pulsar]

yes

[vale spindle]

yes, but you keep the +3% stat boost from oath pretty sure

[whole crypt]

bonus locks in at 9% once you oath iirc, only goes up if you reach 200aff, which you can lose if you drop from 200

[forest palm]

oath stat bonus toggle pls

[whole crypt]

did they say anything about whether the new CA's skills are offensive or defensive?

[soft raft]

Dupliex or Napoli?

[whole crypt]

the new event's

Dup I guess? didn't catch the name

[soft raft]

Dupliex yee
We literally know nothing about the new ships from the stream outside of their faction, apperance, hulltype, and rarity

Stay tuned for datamine

[steady beacon]

Dupleix apparently has a skill barrage, so I guess we can call it offensive, of the one we know about

[whole crypt]

sometimes they say something vague about the skillset, guess not then

she's the only interesting ship for me next event

[steady beacon]

L'Audacieux has a slash barrage
Strasbourg has a projectile + flat fire barrage (didn't check if on-fire or on-timer though)

[worldly pewter]

is it dupleix or dupliex ?

as a french knower i don't think ie exists

[soft raft]

dupleix

[steady beacon]

Well, what does one expect
And ye, "ei"
Still waking up

[eager mulch]

are the new ships good?

[viscid swift]

well
the tech is probbaly BC EVA, DD FP and CA TRP

[forest palm]

if there was ever a tech stat that is garbage personified it'd be BC EVA

[remote yarrow]

Is the September UR good?

[stark quiver]

is there a way to disable all tech

[forest palm]

there is

[stark quiver]

button for all at once?

[forest palm]

lol nope

[stark quiver]

oh god

[whole crypt]

there's a menu for adjusting how much tech to apply out of what you have, there's just not much reason to turn it down besides tweaking reload

[forest palm]

you can tap on the numbers, and set them that way

[whole crypt]

like why would you even want to turn it off

[forest palm]

For example

[stark quiver]

oh nice, i thought i has to click like 500 times

[forest palm]

there's 0 reason to adjust stats

[eager mulch]

is amagi chan good?

[remote yarrow]

Ask Cheeky

[whole crypt]

the last time I tuned any tech was BBV reload for that one Wichita comp, and basically nothing else for the past year

[frank pulsar]

i never needed to tune any stats
since i always lack them

[whole crypt]

for 99% of players you'll never need to touch that menu

[sharp socket]

sacrifice comps dont exist in this game so you only need to touch rld stat

[steady beacon]

I wish tech were adjustable in the ship pages tbh

[whole crypt]

VG again?

[steady beacon]

No, it would just be a time saver

[sharp socket]

i dont know about overkill mechanics so i might be wrong there

[whole crypt]

it only saves time if you actually adjust tech

[steady beacon]

True tbh
The solution is to just use max tech comps
But when Rice comes up with cracked fine-tuned shit, one has no choice but to bend the knee and adjust the RLD

[eager mulch]

cheeky, smo0tie told me to ask you if amagi chan is good

[viscid swift]

~~ or be me and not have your ships oathed to pull it off anyway~~

[whole crypt]

that's if you use his shit at all, whenever he even comes up with shit

[steady beacon]

You're not wrong
Just sometimes one reduces the tech for testing
Occasionally, in order to reflect the situation of players with less tech, one might want to test with reduced tech to check the difference

But as a matter of principle, overkilling the boss is always preferable to underkilling

[viscid swift]

according to my official response written by my lawyer, Amagi Chan is the best ship in the game and anyone who says otherwise will sacrifice all of their assets to Akashi

[whole crypt]

well reload aside the difference adds up between 0 and max tech, but the actual difference is usually far less dramatic

[sharp socket]

is afct situational like hsfcr

[round yoke]

Hi, is this aux better on mob ship or boss ship? decrease load time sounds good for mob, but hit and reduced spread sounds very good for boss.

[soft raft]

it's a straight upgrade to HSFCR

[frank pulsar]

afcr is just better version of hsfcr and therefore has same usage

[whole crypt]

AFCT is just a better HPFCR

[steady beacon]

Strictly speaking, I suppose so
But "situational" in the sense of "the right choice in most situations"

[frank pulsar]

works for both, id be inclined to use it in boss though

[eager mulch]

I like it because it’s shiny

[round yoke]

not many things in this game reduce spread so i guess so

[sharp socket]

i guess it goes on hood then

[whole crypt]

depends but AFCT is usually in boss fleets where you'd otherwise use a HPFCR

[sharp socket]

my boss fleet runs soyuz alsace on blackwhite shell

[whole crypt]

don't be overconcerned about spread

[remote yarrow]

Why Hood if you got 2 better options right there

[stark quiver]

Is there any better converging tbs I can use? Fighting heavy armor

[sharp socket]

because if not desync

[steady beacon]

Any of the other three gold options work, also
It's just a timing thing, ultimately

[whole crypt]

for a start don't use RNGer

[stark quiver]

"testing purposes"

[steady beacon]

Well, two, probably
I wonder how many people already have a VIT-2

[whole crypt]

the new one?

[remote yarrow]

Probably the Cubers?

[steady beacon]

Also, there's a part of me kinda wondering about the incompletely enhanced Sceptre
And why you have two +13 Tenrais but your conv TB is not +13

[viscid swift]

as a cuber I have none of the PR7 gears complete yet

[steady beacon]

You don't get eq bps from cube research though

[sharp socket]

is there a gold fast proc gun so hood gets more stat padding

[remote yarrow]

Welp

[steady beacon]

Except the uh
30 min face

[stark quiver]

I just threw on whatever for augment

[eager mulch]

as a half cuber I have none of the gears yet

[stark quiver]

How much cubes u have now?

[whole crypt]

I only have 6 prints now, 15 floatcat prints though for whatever reason

[viscid swift]

1765

[steady beacon]

Lol
I have the reverse issue
Nearly no floatcat prints

[eager mulch]

cheeky has been playing AL since the dinosaurs roamed the earth

[steady beacon]

Also smh, I thought you said you settled on float bear

[viscid swift]

truly, dinosaurs were alive in 2020

[sharp socket]

waiting for the 6k cube guys to show up

[stark quiver]

Gotta chase every single rerun pools

[whole crypt]

drop spread is weird

[remote yarrow]

I got 16 of both V2 and Bearcat

[viscid swift]

how many La-9 prints is everyone up to right now?

[whole crypt]

6

[stark quiver]

6

[remote yarrow]

6

[sharp socket]

i am praying for more tenrai

[steady beacon]

Mfw
6, too
Ren's on like 10 though

[remote yarrow]

wtf cheats

[viscid swift]

unsurprisingly being a cuber and skill issue I'm on 2

[frank pulsar]

i think i have none
ill check rq

[remote yarrow]

6 for UR, 16 for both V2 and Bearcat, 12 for 410, 9 for 254 and 7 for 152

[frank pulsar]

oh nvm i have 5

[slow fox]

Is this the LA9?

[viscid swift]

yes

[stark quiver]

2 or 20

[slow fox]

That 2 is in the 10s place btw

[viscid swift]

sure....

[slow fox]

Why are you doubting me

[remote yarrow]

I call cheats

[frank pulsar]

how many dr prints do you guys have

[viscid swift]

this many

[frank pulsar]

[stark quiver]

cuber........

[steady beacon]

Wouldn't those BPs indicate a non-cuber

[slow fox]

nevermind just collected projects pog

[remote yarrow]

Non Cuber

[slow fox]

I only do the commission researches.

[spring bolt]

half cuber:

[plain saffron]

who is DR again

[steady beacon]

... The actual hell...
Is our collective luck really that bad in here
Some of the PvPers already have like 60+ on some faces

[slow fox]

Napoli, Admiral Person

[stone sluice]

2

[stark quiver]

just facing

[whole crypt]

not that many cubers here now though

[viscid swift]

in my defense...
my RNG has been pretty bad since the start of this season

[plain saffron]

mine bad

[stark quiver]

as u can see, my rng is hot trash

[slow fox]

Why Halford

Betrayer to eHP

[plain saffron]

she's cute

[steady beacon]

Maybe I need to escape this place and go dunk in the PvPers luck swamp

[stark quiver]

closest to a pink hair ofc

[plain saffron]

mfw no pink hair this season

[steady beacon]

Indeed, you are correct

[viscid swift]

has there been a pink hair in PR at all

[steady beacon]

Rupie

[stark quiver]

you did every cube research you see?

[finite crag]

whats the best bb backline now?

[plain saffron]

cheeky how long you gonna pause the anime, pls finish it stop making it suffer in timestop

[viscid swift]

not every, only 1 H and 30 minute ones and only if there wasn't a DR face

[steady beacon]

... Hmmmmm, probably a sane person would consider Ply purple not pink I presume
So just Rupie

[viscid swift]

uhhh, yes

[stark quiver]

i have 450 cubes, which is 50 more than what i need, time to do cube

[plain saffron]

wtf people who actually watch anime

[silk sphinx]

I’ve been prioritizing Ds for DRs over Hs, but Hs above PR Ds.

Also have skipped many Hs tbh

[stark quiver]

so you keep a big spreadsheet if what youve watched

[finite crag]

.

[plain saffron]

depends tbh

[viscid swift]

that's just for this season

[remote yarrow]

First time seeing someone keep up their animes in a spreadsheet

[silk sphinx]

Three of five, one of which is Bismarck

[remote yarrow]

I just use MAL

[viscid swift]

I use both

[stark quiver]

i use my memory and just that

[silk sphinx]

I do use a spreadsheet for all novels, shows, mangas, essays and other works

[viscid swift]

but anyway it's situationally dependent, minimal difference between them for most applications though

[finite crag]

which 3? medium armor

[silk sphinx]

Helps keep things up to date since I read a lot

[steady beacon]

Bismarck + two of Als + Soy + Vang

[silk sphinx]

Short fight? Bismarck Alsace Soyuz

[finite crag]

thats the answer i wanted thanks

[steady beacon]

No matter which you choose, have fun timing them

[sharp socket]

should i make twin 406 mk4 for fdg for mob or just stick her with champange gun

[silk sphinx]

Mk4

[viscid swift]

I legitimately just gave up after a while and accepted the timings as they were

[viscid swift]

unless you plan to craft it into a 457 I wouldn't bother with the Mk4

[silk sphinx]

This for pvp? Just champs

[viscid swift]

it's really expensive for what it offers

[silk sphinx]

It’s mostly used in pvp tbh

[steady beacon]

Pre much

[sharp socket]

so it isnt upgrade over champ gun for like w14

[silk sphinx]

We use it to push a bb earlier but not rly used in pve

I mean, you’d use the 457

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't take it over Champy no

[silk sphinx]

Not the mk4 as the upgrade

[sharp socket]

i mean i can craft the 457… next month

[steady beacon]

Hmmmm, you're gonna build it in lab and not protocore it?

[sharp socket]

well yes

[stark quiver]

i built mine in lab cuz no protocore

[sharp socket]

my protocore is taking time because its protocore

[remote yarrow]

Ummm I haven't done mine either I got it from Gearlab

[silk sphinx]

With so many catchups…

[steady beacon]

Fascinating

[viscid swift]

which TBF do take time to farm out

[steady beacon]

Well, as long as you can afford it, no worries

[sharp socket]

also dumb me didnt figure out you can do catchup of other series while focus on another one

[strange sphinx]

[stark quiver]

wait what now

[teal lance]

Im using long island pennsylavnia portland unicorn helena and laffey, should i switch out someone for her? shes ssr

[remote yarrow]

Image wasn't needed just the name was enough You can use her instead of Long Island, though idk with your low Gold Bulin income

[teal lance]

these?

[remote yarrow]

oh

Well you can give her 4

Save other 4 for Hood that you can get from SR BB node in Medal shop when possible, since you are in Lil E

[strange sphinx]

Well,Do you have coins

[teal lance]

whats lil e?

[remote yarrow]

Your server

[silk sphinx]

Little enterprise

Medal shop options are fixed and different for each server/month

Ie if you’re on lil E you have the same medal shop options as others on medal shop in lil E

[teal lance]

ah oke

[lunar tiger]

any tips on leveling ship faster? im new

[silk sphinx]

How new? Very?

[lunar tiger]

just a few days

[remote yarrow]

Have you read this yet? https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[strange sphinx]

[silk sphinx]

Literall farm with them on the highest stage you have unlocked

There’s a standard fleet that we recommend to all beginners

[remote yarrow]

But for now try to do event and get the UR gear

[silk sphinx]

Selected for low cost and accessibility

[lunar tiger]

ill read it thanks

[silk sphinx]

If your ship is too low level to survive then either give it some levels in lower story levels (minimum possible) or stick her in dorm or commissions for some passive exp gain

[remote yarrow]

Hmmm which tech is better for BB? +2 Hit or +2FP

[silk sphinx]

Hit

[remote yarrow]

Massa it is

[silk sphinx]

Easy choice

[lunar tiger]

i see thanks so much

[night sun]

is there like a gear lab guide as a beginner

[silk sphinx]

You do play opsi yeah?

that’s the source of the vast majority of the gearlab materials after all

[night sun]

oh

[silk sphinx]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[night sun]

like is there a list of gears i should prioritise

[remote yarrow]

Above you

[night sun]

thats alot 😨

[silk sphinx]

Seems up to date

[night sun]

Ok thanks

[silk sphinx]

Red is priority green means niche

[remote yarrow]

But also higher on the list is higher prio

[silk sphinx]

May vary depending on need

[viscid swift]

maybe I'll get around to writing something but it really does not make things that clear

[night sun]

Ok 👍👍👍

[remote yarrow]

But it really depends on what you need

Don't just craft stuff for the sake of it

[silk sphinx]

I feel kind of iffy about the color coding in that picture tbh

[remote yarrow]

Scream at sam

[wide bramble]

Random dumb question not very important, just playing the event and noticed... my fleet 2 can only move 2 squares, but my fleet 1 can move 3 squares. Farming exp for Bayard so fleet 2 has Algerie/Guichen/Marseillaise (in case that's why?)

[viscid swift]

the number of tiles your fleet can move is based on the average speed of the ships in your fleet

[wide bramble]

Oh

[silk sphinx]

Specifically I think backline speed no?

Or was it both

[viscid swift]

I think it includes vanguards as well but let me double check

wiki implies both

[wide bramble]

Well my fleet 2 is all ships gaining exp and my fleet 1 is a bunch of stacked maxxed out URs+Essex so, that makes sense.

[silk sphinx]

Both yep nvm. also the only thing backline spd goes into pretty much

[wide bramble]

Always wondered what the point of backline speed is for. They don't move in combat so I'm just like huuuuh

[silk sphinx]

It’s useless yep

Vanguard speed in combat is just based on average vanguard speed as well

[wary timber]

What speed..gun speed or something else

[silk sphinx]

The literal spd stat on ships

Mostly only pvpers care about it

[wary timber]

Ew pvp

[silk sphinx]

It gives a lot of bulins so

[steady beacon]

[wary timber]

Also what are the odds that Jervis drops from D3 anyways. I've been farming D3 for quite a bit and there's only 2 ships left that I haven't gotten. Jervis and whatever comes after

[silk sphinx]

Nobody rly knows the odds for D3

[steady beacon]

Some number 0 < x < 1
That's unfortunately all we can tell you for sure

[silk sphinx]

Ballpark between 1% and 10%

[plain saffron]

there's some data from CN

[wary timber]

Then I must be lucky as all heck to have Bearn meta drop then

[plain saffron]

ouh ship not equips, my bad

[wary timber]

Assuming their statistics are the same

Equips. What about D2 and the sea hornets

[vale spindle]

*0.1% - 99.9%

[wary timber]

Cuz I did like 2 or 3 runs just to clear it and I got 2 sea hornet parts

[vale spindle]

gold gear has 3 drop chances out of 7 fights

both the elites can also drop gold gear prints alongside the boss

[plain saffron]

#gameplay-help message
other gold gear probably around same area

[vale spindle]

obviously lower stages can have fewer elites so that can affect total print chance / run

[wary timber]

True

[broken pivot]

Do I need to clear all of hard mode to unlock the EX/SP levels?

[vale spindle]

yes you need to 100% D3 to unlock them

[broken pivot]

Oof

[vale spindle]

you don't need to do A or B stages though, can skip straight to C

[broken pivot]

Well, I did the normal levels anyway, rn I'm just grinding for the firing table

[silk sphinx]

There’s a. X5 daily bonus for A/B stages anyways

[broken pivot]

Also, if I do get a firing table, what's the optimal other aux for NJ since rn she uses that radar and a black/white shell

[silk sphinx]

Pretty efficient to do them if you have a relatively low oil cost fleet

[silk sphinx]

Table plus shell

[broken pivot]

I see, simple enough then

[frank pulsar]

thats fine, though if you have other ur bb theyll have prio for the table since nj doesnt benefit as much

[silk sphinx]

Probably black shell with modern bb gearing with STAAG unless enemy has high Eva

[broken pivot]

I'll keep in mind if I ever do decide to replace NJ with another BB (which I highly doubt will ever happen)

[silk sphinx]

The table is the best bb aux

[broken pivot]

To be fair Soyuz can be a candidate

[silk sphinx]

Every bb wants it so give it to the best

[frank pulsar]

soyuz is just outright better than nj

[broken pivot]

Not fully built in any way though

[silk sphinx]

Then just nj

[broken pivot]

Maybe later on if I ever do decide to properly build Soyuz, rn she kinda just chills in the dorm gaining exp

[remote yarrow]

Would've been better if you used Bulins on Soyuz instead

[broken pivot]

I have 3 UR bulins, and Vanguard is one step away from MLB

[remote yarrow]

oh well

[broken pivot]

(can't actually remember if I MLB'd Soyuz but after vanguard I can MLB her if not)

[silk sphinx]

The table is basically just a radar but better in all stats and with a bonus minus spread effect

[broken pivot]

Less spread is indeed nice

[silk sphinx]

Tbh I’d do soyuz before vanguard

[broken pivot]

I should also remember to level up soyuz's skills

[silk sphinx]

But since you’re almost done finish vanguard first yeah

[broken pivot]

Ok so, Soyuz is 2 stars away from mlb, guess imma mlb vanguard first

Oh I actually have enough of the points for 4 UR bulins

Well, still need one extra to mlb both of them tho

[remote yarrow]

Have you got the 15k points one yet?

[broken pivot]

Getting one from the battle pass should be enough

[remote yarrow]

Or maybe you can get a Vanguard dupe from the tickets but's that's copium

[wary timber]

.... does SP have ship limitations

[broken pivot]

I take it that's the one from the event?

[remote yarrow]

Yep, event milestone

[broken pivot]

I'm at 8k points for the event one

[remote yarrow]

Well there's your 5th

[frank pulsar]

only for one fleet iirc

[broken pivot]

Maybe even one more from the battle pass

[frank pulsar]

needs a bb and cl...? not too sure

[remote yarrow]

It doesn't

[finite crag]

none

[remote yarrow]

No limitations

~~I didn't change the subs from 2 years ago ~~

[steady beacon]

Is it not four?
3 elites + boss?

[vale spindle]

oh right ye

my mind forgot the 3rd elite

[steady beacon]

In fairness the black torp farm was 3 drop chances (albeit out of 6)

[silk sphinx]

Owch those cursed memories

[steady beacon]

The things one does for PvP
Granted, as fluffs showed, it has other uses as well

[cursive saffron]

Any fleet suggestions for chapter14 1-4?

[silk sphinx]

Make thread post dock

First main fleet then vanguard

[cursive saffron]

U can jus tell me what fleet u use ig

[silk sphinx]

Where else was it used? Ex/meta?

[cursive saffron]

Or best fleet in w14 ig

[steady beacon]

Torp memes EX ye

Like 5-second clear-type things

[remote yarrow]

Many ppl used different fleets tho and there's no "Best fleet"
But if you insist I used this

[silk sphinx]

Fine alright
Uh something like musashi unicorn volga | Brest unzen laffey 2

[cursive saffron]

Aight thanks

[steady beacon]

Then we run into replication issues
There's a reason I bothered to write a "how to build the fleet" section of the guide

[cursive saffron]

Is it alr to use french dd gun on subs i dont have that many gun

[finite crag]

sub guns dont matter

[cursive saffron]

Aight

[remote yarrow]

You asked what we used this is why replicating is bad

[tall sandal]

If a UR drops from a construction, does it reset the UR selection progress?

[finite crag]

no

[silk sphinx]

Note that 14-3 has light armor bosses, and 3 and 4 have sub enemies

[steady beacon]

Just put a DD gun on the sub
If the DD gun ends up mattering, there are much bigger issues at play tbh

[cursive saffron]

What can i replace volga? I hadnt maxed her yet

[silk sphinx]

Aquila ig

Not preload mode

Or heck any ur cv

14 isn’t difficult these days especially with so many URs and other great ships

[wary timber]

Huh. SP wasn't as tough as I thought it was

[remote yarrow]

It's an old sp

[rapid grail]

show dock, w14 ez nowadays

[night sun]

yo is there any guide for PR ships for a beginner?

[plain saffron]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[night sun]

thanks

[remote yarrow]

And what we recommend is
FdG > Anchorage > Agir > rest of PR4 > Plymouth > Brest > Rest PR5

[night sun]

ohh

[rapid grail]

PR6 and 7 afterwards?

[remote yarrow]

But this may change once PR4 gear gets added to Gearlab and PR4 DRs become coinable

[finite crag]

6 is 💤

[remote yarrow]

It depends, PR6 is kinda meh, Shimanto is the only want you want from there

[steady beacon]

Tbf was an SP ever hard?

[night sun]

whats that

[steady beacon]

Also, maybe don't prioritise PR6 early on, fair
But "meh"?

[remote yarrow]

Well Kearsarge is also good

[frank pulsar]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[steady beacon]

As much as it pains me to say it, Hindy is good, too
And even Felix and Flan aren't at all bad

[remote yarrow]

But doesn't she want to be in a USS CV fleet backline?

[frank pulsar]

no, she good outside of that too

you still see her being used outside of uss in meta one shots

[steady beacon]

She often does, and probably is at her very best in it ye
But it's not a requirement
The various META fights since her release show that quite well

[remote yarrow]

Aight

[frank pulsar]

ppl sleep on kear too much

[steady beacon]

And even if nobody is convinced, I still maintain she's fine in triple BB

[rapid grail]

she's among the best BB/Vs against light and medium regardless

no need to pair her up w/ USS CV

[remote yarrow]

This one feels easier than Soyuz's and Alsace's imo

[steady beacon]

Fair
Some events do have gimmicks that are at least annoying
Although, for me, The Fool's Scales takes the cake for the worst one

[sweet delta]

I remember not a single SP

[remote yarrow]

I tend to remember unimportant stuff

[slow fox]

But you remember me

[steady beacon]

Does remembering the names of those who do 2 exercises, then stop until the last 5 min of the set so I can't bonus off them count as "unimportant"?
Because I remember. And I will never forget nor forgive

[short wagon]

do i get admiralty fire control table

[steady beacon]

Unquestionably

General rule, always try to get the event shop equipment, since it's almost always exclusive

[sweet delta]

There is no reason you shouldn't, unless you have extenuating life circumstances

[short wagon]

who should i put it on

[remote yarrow]

Zwei

[viscid swift]

Zwei

[sweet delta]

Bsm

[short wagon]

👍🏻👍🏻

[ornate narwhal]

how often do we get UR banners?

[frank pulsar]

4 to 6 times a year including reruns

[short wagon]

once in a while

[viscid swift]

Upper limit is 7 at this point

[cursive saffron]

Where can i get unicorns aux seaplane?

[remote yarrow]

New ones, mostly on February,May,September and December if I'm not mistaken

[ornate narwhal]

how can i get permanent URs?

[frank pulsar]

we've had 7 before?

[viscid swift]

I mean this year is on track for 7

[ornate narwhal]

so is the current one new?

[frank pulsar]

luck or pity system
pity system is recommended way to get them

[frank pulsar]

no current one is rerun

[remote yarrow]

Nope, it's a Rerun

[finite crag]

no its a rerun

[ornate narwhal]

ok

[ornate narwhal]

r they good?

[remote yarrow]

We aren't in any of the months I mentioned unless you are a time traveler

[sweet delta]

I don't think the asw plane is good when you have only one hedgehog and no purple depth charge . Give ply a purple depth charge at least. If you want the plane too, it's in gear lab

[remote yarrow]

I suggest you just to a thread with your ships and depot

[cursive saffron]

I have depth charges

[steady beacon]

Well, not that plane unfortunately

[frank pulsar]

other than shinano, none of them are particularly relevant in meta anymore
tldr theyre good but not worth the cube to get them, just do daily light pull until you can claim one for free

[sweet delta]

what happens when you just ask for best fleet to copy

[plain saffron]

anyone know what is ingame name for this

[remote yarrow]

Only case where it can kinda work is W15

[remote yarrow]

Secret Vouchers? iirc

[cursive saffron]

Which faction i cant see it here

[frank pulsar]

that asw plane is event limited, its unobtainable rn
each account gets just one hedgehog, and depth charges can be crafted with blueprints

[remote yarrow]

oh Tickets

[plain saffron]

thanks

[remote yarrow]

Was there ever a doc for W14 like the one there is for W15?

[frank pulsar]

nope

w14 pretty easy anyway, i slapped together a bunch of random ssr, used okay gear and still cleared pretty easily

[south sequoia]

There wasn't ever a need for w14 since w14 is a bit more direct than w15

W14 was still pretty hard don't get us wrong, it was just really direct on what to do and what ships you should use

[bright compass]

This one I spam h
Spam every time it pops up
But I won't spam the 4 hour golden h
Because it's not worth it

[remote yarrow]

Paid actor, too lucky

[frank pulsar]

wtf cube research is this fast?

[remote yarrow]

For this guy it seems like

Cuz Cheeky is a Cuber/H too and this is his situation #gameplay-help message

[frank pulsar]

doesnt cheeky focus gear

[south sequoia]

Nope

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[hollow sail]

cheeky only does 1h cube seems boss does 1h and 2h

[frank pulsar]

theyre just really lucky then

[hollow sail]

and he doesn't hard focus cube either he only does if there isn't DR face

[plain saffron]

sound right

[bright compass]

Yes
pr 6 I spam h pr 6, all ships dev30 within 84 days

[remote yarrow]

84

[plain saffron]

why you

[remote yarrow]

Dude's speedrunning research

[rain vine]

thats gotta be some rigged research rng

[pseudo hearth]

Can the new Bearcat Float be equipped by ships like Ting An and I-13?
I’m guessing so, right?

[steady beacon]

Should be, yep

[remote yarrow]

Sounds really fast

[pseudo hearth]

How much better is the new float compared to the old purple floats?

[remote yarrow]

Wasn't it 90~100 days even for ppl who cube?

[stark quiver]

thats it im quitting the game

[hollow sail]

a lot better but it is also different since it launches rockets

[pseudo hearth]

Hmm, will that have any notable difference on the ships that can equip floatplanes?

[plain saffron]

84 isn't that far off than 90

[remote yarrow]

Oh well

[stark quiver]

maybe i should start cubing, 452 cubes

[frank pulsar]

you need like 2000 if you want to cube a whole season

[remote yarrow]

You are probably gonna run out of cubes before you finish the season

[steady beacon]

The rewards are great, but so are the risks

[plain saffron]

time to start playing again, gonna cube so hard on no gacha account

[hollow sail]

for mobbing rockets are a bit iffy, boats that can equip seaplanes aren't particularly strong either... i guess if you want to use your ise for bossing she will see a marked improvement but is that relevant in the grand scheme, well not really

[steady beacon]

[hollow sail]

the only potentially notable bote is halford herself

[pseudo hearth]

Ise specifically and not Hyuga?

[steady beacon]

In saying that, though, I've prioritised faces if reasonable over cube, but have also taken every reasonable cube that comes my way...
But > 100 prints for Halford this early blows my mind

[south sequoia]

Hyuuga is decent but not as good as ise

[hollow sail]

i just said ise because she has stronger and faster airstrikes and i like her more

[south sequoia]

heh, isekai

[viscid swift]

I reiterate, my luck thus far with research been trash....

[pseudo hearth]

Dang, I remember when that was the other way around

[south sequoia]

Huh, was there ever a point in time hyuuga > ise?

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, I definitely remember a time where people would say so

[viscid swift]

Hyuuga has a fp buff for all BBs

So that's probably why

[pseudo hearth]

Yep

[stark quiver]

how to get more cubes if i have to hard pull every banner

[viscid swift]

Don't hard pull every banner

[south sequoia]

Oh right, prior to bbv retrofits hyuuga was better used

[steady beacon]

💳

[stark quiver]

ive missed almost every single one

[plain saffron]

know when to give up

[steady beacon]

Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em

[remote yarrow]

Never give up

[viscid swift]

Set yourself a budget that allows you to get a net positive for cubes each month and don't go over it

[novel condor]

Smoothie

[pseudo hearth]

Anyway, I’m going to guess that unfortunately I-13 doesn’t really do much after the new float planes, as IJN Subs are a lost cause, considering USS and KMS Subs are busted right now. Am I right ?

[plain saffron]

it's not worth another 500 cubes for that elite

[remote yarrow]

[viscid swift]

When I started my hard limit was 62 pulls an event for about 6 months or so

[novel condor]

Go sleep

[remote yarrow]

It's only 1 am wdym, I still got another 4 hours to go

[hollow sail]

it'd have to be tested

[steady beacon]

Ngl, as someone who used I-13 for a long time...
I'm not really so convinced she was ever quite worth it
I still like her though

[hollow sail]

the plane is definitely a lot better than anything else she ever could use on that slot for bossing

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, if the new plane is a good upgrade, there can be an argument for her.

[hollow sail]

but as for whether that makes her any good, no idea

[pseudo hearth]

Unfortunately, she could be busted, but will not be used because she’s not USS or KMS

Because, the faction sub fleets are way too good right now

[sweet delta]

homura is busted and breaks uss/kms

[pseudo hearth]

She’s also collab

[steady beacon]

Issue is
Even if the plane did, for the sake of argument, quadruple the damage of the old one
Her damage would still fall depressingly short
Assuming a competent backline, her support for one rotation probably exceeds her personal, even then

[stark quiver]

maybe ill start doing that, im constantly stuck with around 400 - 700 cubes

[remote yarrow]

That's not bad tho

[steady beacon]

+1 for Homura
Girl is busted
If you have her, please raise and use her

[fervent hearth]

thats decent

[hard fractal]

are vanguard still worth to build? this is all my UR BB so far

[fervent hearth]

just dont get unlucky tho

[sweet delta]

why 62 such an odd but even number

[elfin hollow]

yes

[hollow sail]

i do have her, and was planning on leveling, though i ended up hearing a lot of whining on how she can explode really easily

[steady beacon]

BB-62

[pseudo hearth]

Unfortunately I think I was on vacation, so I only have like one ship from that event, and I’m not sure if I even have her augment.

[elfin hollow]

vanguard buffs your bb keep her

[hard fractal]

aye

[steady beacon]

Against Arbiter it just isn't going to happen
If W15, you just need to be a bit careful with her call, really
But you can also just use another, less finicky sub there if you don't want to finesse too much

[signal pollen]

How many battles does it take to lose toils of war

[inner delta]

1

[signal pollen]

really? my unicorn is not losing it at all 💀

[sweet delta]

you have the wrong debuff

[signal pollen]

doesn't the game say win battles to lose toils

[sweet delta]

no

[calm rose]

do you mean the debuff u get from sinking? you need to go to a port to repair to remove that debuff

[sweet delta]

win battles loses low resolve

[signal pollen]

Oh she sunk. makes more sense. thanks

[inner delta]

you can just heal for it in port

[late flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Sinking_/_Loss

[signal pollen]

Also is the boss node in the middle of opsi limited or can I do it tmr

[inner delta]

it stays until reset

[signal pollen]

like the month;y reset?

[inner delta]

yes

[signal pollen]

Thanks.

[stark quiver]

also how much did u end up with in endf of 6 months

[viscid swift]

I was in excess of 500 still after dumping quite a bit to try and get San Francisco from NJ's event

[stark quiver]

ill try it then, so 62 pulls per event and ill just do that untill i feel like i have enough

[viscid swift]

I should note what that basically means is 3 pulls a day for the duration of the event plus 2 additional 10 pulls on the final day

[sweet delta]

what about 3 week events

[viscid swift]

Same still applies

Just add an additional 21 pulls

[sweet delta]

EX stats

Monarch  Heavy  480,000  20   57   20   9999  0    700  350  600  95    BB    15905001```

[ornate narwhal]

who should i use on my first team? i’m new btw

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

There's a recommended starter fleet in there

[ornate narwhal]

ok

[keen sable]

~~reroll into van ~~

[steady beacon]

[rapid grail]

epic gaming... congrats you are stacked. best BB buffer in game

[ornate narwhal]

does this work?

[hollow gust]

Did you not read the thing?

[ornate narwhal]

i did

im just making sure i picked the right ships

[zinc turret]

change the flag to penny i guess and u good to go

[ornate narwhal]

ok i didn’t even realize i didn’t change her

[hollow gust]

Order matters in Azur lane , Portland Helena z23

[plain saffron]

remove vanguard because not max limit break, use penny, put in middle
for vg port z23 helena

if you have ranger you can remove long island for ranger

can't really use UR in early game because lack of bulins and non MLB ship is 🚮

[rapid grail]

its cheaper to use grey, blue and purple rarity ships atm

[plain saffron]

if you have CV or BB in medal shop pick enterprise or/and Hood respectively whenever possible

[warm niche]

is vanguard any good?

[finite crag]

yea

[rapid grail]

yes, one of the best buffers for BBs

[warm niche]

im still kind of new to azur lane what's BBs?

[ember totem]

Battleships like what Vanguard is

[steady beacon]

BB = abbreviation for battleship

[ember totem]

pew pew big guns from backline

[steady beacon]

Why? Ask the USN

[ornate narwhal]

what do i do with dupes?

[forest palm]

Hull type designations get so much more confusing than what AL has condensed it to be

[ornate narwhal]

i have 2 vanguard but idk what to do with the other one

[forest palm]

you use dupes to limit break the main ship, and dump the leftovers once everything is MLB

[ornate narwhal]

should i continue to pull on the limited banner? since i have the UR?

[finite crag]

use up all free pulls then thats it

[stark quiver]

you can stop after the first copy usually

[forest palm]

do not use any cubes, feel free to use leftover tickets sparingly

[ornate narwhal]

ok

i haven’t used any cubes yet

[stark quiver]

incredible luck

[finite crag]

thats how they reel you in

[keen sable]

you should be spacing tickets out to minimum 3 per day for maximum points

[rapid grail]

newbies are eating good

[forest palm]

simply put use enough tickets to complete the daily, and on the last day you dump the rest of your tickets

[ornate narwhal]

outta my units who should i prioritize upgrading the most?

[warm niche]

why is it bad to use cubes?

[finite crag]

because he already got the ship

[forest palm]

it's not bad, just save where you can, also there's no point hard pulling with cubes for ship dupes

[ornate narwhal]

i used 5 tickets today is that bad?

[finite crag]

no but just use 3 a day for the daily mission

[ornate narwhal]

ok

[forest palm]

these 5 are definitely important btw

you won't be able to use Vanguard immediately, so I'd recommend looking to pick up Nelson, or Hood, and raise one of the two

[ornate narwhal]

ok so upgrade all equally?

[keen sable]

as equally as you can upgrade only z23 and penny

[ornate narwhal]

should i only use cubes on UR banners? besides the daily light summon?

[stark quiver]

mostly yea, unless the banner sr's are exceptional or for collection

[plain saffron]

if you claim a new ship in WA does it ask to lock?

if it works like gacha does it also auto lock if you set it to on

[forest palm]

if you just use the free tickets you get, you can fulfill the daily summon

[ornate narwhal]

do we get tickets on all banners?

[forest palm]

just reruns, in varying amounts depending on if it's an SSR, or UR event

[hollow gust]

What is the current harby skill? I had to reset three times to oneshot

[copper pine]

prelim for pr7, how does it look peeps

any golden nuggets?

[steady beacon]

Destruction + flat fire bullet shield at 30% + 20s/20% shield
Just go faster
Temperance is trivial

[forest palm]

Napoli is the most interesting(?), Nakhimov is also promising, and Halford, lastly Bayard, and Daisen seem underwhelming, Sam has his evaluations up in the sheet

[hollow gust]

That's fucking why, my CVs are synced into the shield

[steady beacon]

Sam did evaluations?!?!?!?

[hollow gust]

Oh well still killed whatever

[forest palm]

I think it's just for gear

[copper pine]

sam does the best eval usually.. gonna read it soon

[steady beacon]

Ye that's the usual thing that'll get you
CVs prob can overkill through the shield with some RNG though

[hollow gust]

Ez

[steady beacon]

Not gonna happen vs Nov Strength though

[copper pine]

arbiter is always easy tho

[hollow gust]

I onshotted every single month already

[steady beacon]

Who hasn't

[hollow gust]

Not gonna be a problem , just forgot July had the stupid shield

[copper pine]

the bigger question what is rhe EX comp for this rerun event again??

monarch shreds vanguards

[calm rose]

i think most people with decent fleet one shotted harbiter already

[hollow gust]

3 bb, tanky frontline , auto

[copper pine]

usually 2-3 fleet it

[steady beacon]

Suchi if you have video of killing Nov Strength through the shield please share

Because that I cannot miss 🍿

[copper pine]

i used brest, ply agir and it still melts

[hollow gust]

Drag your vanguard to the top left , you should be perfectly fine considering you one salvo that shit

[copper pine]

auto right?

[hollow gust]

Also just use Helena , it's free

[copper pine]

or manual?

[hollow gust]

Well if your fleets have skill issue then you manual the EX

[steady beacon]

If you're willing to manual for five whole seconds, you can torp meme her

fluffs can tell you all about that

[dusk maple]

richi/flandre/alsace-jintsuu meta/shima+1, kill it with preloads

[hollow gust]

[copper pine]

hmm im intrigued

[hollow gust]

It's a old ex, if you are old then skill issue if can't kill

[stark quiver]

Torp meme

[ornate narwhal]

how do i get things to limit break the first time on pennsylvania and z23?

[copper pine]

hey i forgor the standard of burst it to hell and forget everything since recent ex is tankier than before

[rose cosmos]

jervis is a skip right?

[forest palm]

she's free

[rose cosmos]

I know but I'm pretty low on oil now

[hollow gust]

You need to farm for the table anyway, just cope for her

[copper pine]

time to touch grass

[rose cosmos]

❓

[copper pine]

wait until oil is refilled

[south sequoia]

There is no other way to get oil other than to wait or to pull out the credit card

[copper pine]

unless you wanna buy gems for oil

[south sequoia]

Commision rewards?
Waiting
Canteen?
Waiting
Maintenance rewards?
Waiting

[sweet delta]

try nakhi shinano haku helena kazagumo sirius with 1 la-9

[polar venture]

How many blueprints do I need for a priority ship to get mlb?

[south sequoia]

343 for dev 30

[stark quiver]

time traveller

[forest palm]

343

[peak valve]

Hello gamers

For Michita, other than HE, what are the main gimmicks to one shot? also is the pinned strat included the tip to her chain lock?

[copper pine]

343 for PR dev30, DR 513

[steady beacon]

Although tbh, I cannot possibly pass up the chance using a CV fleet
My question, though, is... why WOULD you purposely go so slow as to hit the shield except to prove a point

[stark quiver]

for her chain lock, just run tanky, all damage just comes from backline, you can use hvar f6f on yk2 and kear

[sweet delta]

because there's not enough damage if you go before the shield

[copper pine]

CV cope prolly

[stark quiver]

Shield is the jellyfish thingy?

[steady beacon]

Does using a Beacon really sac that much damage?

[steady beacon]

Nah, this is for November Strength, not this month's Temperance

[sweet delta]

how can you go before the shield with just a beacon?

skyraider is unusable except on enty, la-9 is unusable, tenrai is unusable

[steady beacon]

Well, OK, not entirely
But can you not get most in front
Am I hallucinating this month or something

[stark quiver]

Oh the very hard one, about that, what armor is it? Med?

[steady beacon]

Ye

[stark quiver]

Until someone gets the la9, best med armor killer is still 109g on hakunano right?

[steady beacon]

Maybe I'll just wait for Nov Strength and see for myself
Temp is so hard to gauge because she's so easy
If she straight out nullifies a strike that badly, then I'll change tack

[steady beacon]

I'm still partial to Kear/YII, but no especial reason you can't just stick to IJNs

[stark quiver]

No kear and yk2 sad gotta stick to hakunano

[steady beacon]

No need to be sad, they're still excellent at what they do

[thin haven]

Is Essex paired with Enterprise is good?

[ornate narwhal]

what do i use for this?

[inner delta]

both are solid ship, you dont need to pair them tho

[inner delta]

either same copy or bulin of the rarity

[ornate narwhal]

purple?

[inner delta]

yes

[ornate narwhal]

is rhere a blue one!

[stark quiver]

No

[ornate narwhal]

which of z23 skills should i prioritize

[steady beacon]

Does she not have just one to start with?

[keen sable]

she does

[late flame]

AoA cannot level up lol (using skill books)

[peak valve]

Hm, so just run CBs, CAs, or Plymouth will do just fine

[ornate narwhal]

oh i’m stupid

[stark quiver]

Some people run Helena to get scans

[peak valve]

I can get 1mil cap with Helena but she dies rather fast even with elite crew aux

[stark quiver]

Rip

[bright tusk]

is single 113 better than twin 113 for sandy with her augment module?

[sweet delta]

single 113 and blue 76 are not good on sandy because of the bug

recommend the rainbow guns still

[plain saffron]

for oathing imas ships do we need to change to tiara manually or it auto convert

nvm you need to do manually

[vale spindle]

most bbs are mgm+2, its only when they are mgm+1 is when its weird

and yes mgm+2 generally means you do great damage

when paired with good stats and barrages

you would be surprised how many shitty elites come out with actually decent barrages but shitty proc rates + low fp

[fickle scarab]

What bug

[sweet delta]

#known-bugs message

[plain saffron]

how many years until they fix it

[rain vine]

they still havent fixed that?

[fickle scarab]

Cut off as in if a 2nd shot is fired, the 1st one vanishes?

[steady beacon]

... Ngl, I can't even remember what was the context for that anymore
But uh... yes, I think I agree

Ohhh right
My question was basically why you point out MGM+2 at all
Because that's "normal"

[vale spindle]

discord showed it to me for some reason idk why

[short wagon]

is fdg or azuma or plymouth the nezt research ship i should go for

[crisp estuary]

[fathom sable]

Isn't it like Barracuda for auto purpose and Saiun for manual timing? is there a video example for the timing thing?

[sweet delta]

Barracuda spreads across the screen, saiun all aims at the enemy's position

[plain saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/460645783021289472/1248655170141949952/image.png?ex=669c7bff&is=669b2a7f&hm=913c60e09de207da3fe7598dbdec50055d4c19a90e227b207fddec8b3579fdd8&

[broken pivot]

What aux should I use for vanguard except table

[steady beacon]

[stark quiver]

White shell+table/hsfcr usually

[broken pivot]

Ok

[frank pulsar]

should i mlb mog or vanny first? both same stars, i started on mog first but somehow got 3 vanguards with tickets

[steady beacon]

There is one (1) impostor among us
I'd do Vanguard first myself
Mog is fun, but has far fewer applicable scenarios (so far)

[atomic abyss]

Vanny then
Or just wait till the end of the event to MLB her

[dense finch]

My main fleet has unicorn, shinano and hood. Who should I replace vanguard with?

[atomic abyss]

In case you got new dupes

[steady beacon]

Oh actually
That's a good idea

[atomic abyss]

In other words in case you got peak luck
Wait till the end of the event, then MLB her

[frank pulsar]

i really doubt that
im gonna have so much karma if i do

[atomic abyss]

Can you MLB vanguard even

Or have you even MLB Shinano

[steady beacon]

There is good karma too

[dense finch]

I have fully limit broken Shinano, I can limit break vanguard to 5/6*

[atomic abyss]

Then vanguard still stay benched for now imo

You should almost be at the point where you need 2 fleets

So when that happens vanguard can go to boss

[crisp estuary]

[scenic escarp]

Is it an outdated practice to try and run 2 fleets early game? I feel hesitant to raise another fleet purely dedicated to bosses due to limit breaking materials being relatively low early on. I feel like I can get away with just one fleet

[dense finch]

Can somebody help me construct 2 fleets based on my ships?

[shell willow]

you can 1fleet stuff until like w8 iirc

[shell willow]

create a thread where u post your dock and also what content you are doing and someone will help

[dense finch]

fleet help

[grizzled wraith]

what do I do with my 20 universal bulins?

I have a dupe of warspite but mine is already maxed. Do I just sell the dupe?

[night sun]

should i replace my laffey with jervis?

[stark quiver]

You can retire it, for the bulins save them

[grizzled wraith]

For what? What do I save for?

[grizzled wraith]

Okay will do

[stark quiver]

Future ships to invest in

[hollow sail]

you could keep to use on her retrofit if you wanted that, though it must be said that her retrofit is not actually worth the cost. but if you did want to do it at some point, you'd have the option to use that dupe instead of bulins (assuming you do not have her retro). otherwise feel free to retire

[vale gyro]

Hi guys i noticed that for opsi, when clearing explorable parts, it doesn’t autolock the phone once its done and instead stays on the “leave the zone” UI whilst keeping your phone on.

I got screen timeout on 30 seconds but it only works when clearing opsi treasure zones

Is there a solution for this?

[grizzled wraith]

I’ve done retro but thx

[broken pivot]

Finally got the table

[grizzled wraith]

What purple ships do invest in? I’ve only been using ur and gold

[broken pivot]

No unicorns were involved?

(I'd assume that she's retrofitted long ago but idk)

[grizzled wraith]

She is

[stark quiver]

For tech and whatnot better to have them then not to have

[grizzled wraith]

Okay - I’m just broke on dock space and don’t know what to do

[broken pivot]

Wait for next anni and be blessed with gems

(or just try and manage your dock, sometimes culling some bulins in the way to go)

[grizzled wraith]

Okay - do u get gems from story?

[crisp estuary]

[hollow sail]

independence and saratoga if you don't have them could be worth as their retrofits are pretty good. ark royal also potentially. any of the chinese DDGs (chang chun/an shan/tai yuan) as well

[south sequoia]

Unicorn portland starter

Unicorn is a ship you'll be using for most of the game

Portland because shes a good cheap tank and you need her for the starter missions

There is also independence and saratoga

[grizzled wraith]

I’ve already done all the early game characters to max

And a couple of others like the Chinese ddgs

[scenic escarp]

kk tyty

[hollow sail]

there isn't many notable purples then, you could potentially level someone like gloucester because she's uniquely good for the "kill all enemies" star in campaign but not much besides that

[broken pivot]

What does Gloucester do again that makes her specifically good at that thing?

[inland shoal]

Lower out of ammo debuff

[broken pivot]

Huh

[hollow sail]

she reduces the damage reduction of out of ammo by effectively 30%

[broken pivot]

Does it work for when she's not in the same fleet?

[inland shoal]

No

[grizzled wraith]

Kk I’ll do her

[hollow sail]

i worded that a bit poorly tbh, what i really mean to say is that she makes your fleet deal 30% more damage if it's out of ammo (because the debuff goes from 50% to 65%)

[fathom sable]

Ah, one is guided torp and the other is manual. That explains why Saiun offers lower torp dmg

[hollow sail]

and that's generally worth having her on the vanguard instead of some much stronger boat when doing all of those out of ammo fights

[hollow sail]

well not so much "guided", but aimed. the torps are aimed at the enemy's location, but do not make adjustments for enemy movement so they are still liable to miss if the enemy is moving

while parallel torps just go in that straight line

[fathom sable]

Copy!

[opaque owl]

D2 is better than d3 for this event due to the equipment drop right?

[hollow sail]

depends on how new you are, kinda

long-term sea hornet doesn't really have use

[opaque owl]

never know when ill need more fighters i guess

better than the dogshit d3 drop

[remote yarrow]

You rarely farm a map for gear drops

[tame jungle]

Farm D2 at your own risk, sea hornet is good but will be replaced by flapjack eventually in higher campaign and gear farming on such a short event is kinda risky imo

[remote yarrow]

D3 gives more points and Jervis

[opaque owl]

whats the point difference between d3 and d2

[tame jungle]

150 vs 180

[opaque owl]

that is p big in the long run

[remote yarrow]

And if you really need good fighters there's flapjack in gearlab

[opaque owl]

wait is flapjack in the game

[steady beacon]

Ye

[opaque owl]

nice nvm then, d3 it is, i want that bulin

flapjack is like an f7f sidegrade right

[hollow gust]

lol even if you farm d2, have fun farming 30k event points and not even getting one

[opaque owl]

trueee

[hollow sail]

tigercat is just as useful/useless as sea hornet pretty much

[opaque owl]

am i going insane or something

[hollow sail]

what makes flapjack stand out is its exceptional interception

[frank pulsar]

dmg wise yea, but flapjack has better aa capability

[steady beacon]

Interception difference
In terms of surface damage, Tigercat/Flapjack/Sea Hornet are equal

[opaque owl]

ok, f7f is flapjack sidegrade if you dont care about aa then

[steady beacon]

Also, there's the timing diff, and even the flight speed diff, but those are separate issues

[stark quiver]

Not once have I heard someone mention flight speed

[frank pulsar]

slower flight spd means better aa as well

[opaque owl]

that reload could be big i forgot if ark has a fighter slot

[steady beacon]

The flight speed is one of the key reasons for the Flapjack's interception superiority lol

[hollow sail]

flapjack flies slow and has a lot of HP so it's harder to shoot down

[tame jungle]

Flight speed lower = enemy planes are in your fighter’s AA for longer

[opaque owl]

ong? didnt know that

[hollow sail]

stays on screen for longer, and also reloads faster for interception specifically

[opaque owl]

how expensive is flapjack in terms of mats

[grand pier]

is the B7A Ryusei still the way to go as torp bomber? or is there a better alternative?

[frank pulsar]

cheaper than tigercat unironically, unless you have an excess of hellcats

[opaque owl]

ju87 if you need timing

[frank pulsar]

ryusei, ju87 and saiun kai are all timing sidegrades

[hollow sail]

flapjack does cost ordnance, but it's well worth it for the places you'll make good use of it for

[opaque owl]

is flapjack for both medium + heavy ive kinda forgotten a lot of the stats

[hollow sail]

the bombs it drops deal more damage against heavier armor types

[opaque owl]

ok

[strange sphinx]

well I got vanny with ticket, Should I bother leveling her

[versed elk]

redoing ex doesnt give cog chip right

[remote yarrow]

No, that would be broken

[versed elk]

thats sad thanks

[strange sphinx]

[remote yarrow]

500 chips for free every 20~40s would be crazy

[versed elk]

no i mean i did on first run

cus this current even is vang rerun so i rmb i did on first run

[remote yarrow]

ooh then yes