gameplay-help

[young sparrow]

Here are more screenshots from that account

[atomic abyss]

showing us that doesn't help

[young sparrow]

May be a little outdated

[viscid swift]

^

[atomic abyss]

it's more likely that you either did not log in correctly or did not even bind it to yostar at all

[viscid swift]

changing servers does nothing because progress on each server for the same account is seperate

[young sparrow]

Same email address, but different accounts

[elfin hollow]

So harbin?

[atomic abyss]

go back to your old phone, check if it even is logged into yostar in the settings

[young salmon]

To level them up, repeat sortie on which stage?

[atomic abyss]

pennsylvania in the middle

push campaign as much as possible outside events

[young sparrow]

No, unfortunately

[viscid swift]

do you have any XP packs?

[atomic abyss]

so that means your account is not logged into yostar

so go log your old phone to yostar

[young salmon]

i do have

[young sparrow]

I have already worked on other projects published by this studio, for example, Arknights, so it should be tied

[viscid swift]

use them to boost up the level 1 ships a bit, then farm the highest stage you can

[atomic abyss]

it doesn't matter

[viscid swift]

irrelevant

[atomic abyss]

if that particular game was not logged into

it won't be saved

yostar account login is not automatic

[young sparrow]

How does deleting an account work?

[atomic abyss]

not relevant right now

[young sparrow]

Maybe it will help

[viscid swift]

for the love of

go back to your old phone, bind it to your Yostar account/email

[atomic abyss]

1. go back to your old phone
2. bind ther AL account there to yostar via your AL settings

[young sparrow]

Okay, one moment

[viscid swift]

then on your new phone, before you log in, bind it as well

[young sparrow]

I'll try something now

[atomic abyss]

https://imgur.com/a/lgXYNAU

[young salmon]

limit break to 5 Star on all right ?

[atomic abyss]

follow this

[young sparrow]

Okay

[viscid swift]

you want to MLB them all yes

[young salmon]

Do i use the cubes for new jersey build?

[eager mulch]

no

[viscid swift]

absolutely not, stick to one light build a day

also smh for not reading the tips

[eager mulch]

i haven’t read the newbie tips yet

[thin haven]

Which should I pick?

[viscid swift]

turtle still a newb confirmed

[viscid swift]

assuming you have no other good BBs, Hood

[young salmon]

i did read that part

[thin haven]

Is she good?

[young salmon]

but i already built 40 on it, XD

[eager mulch]

so you shouldn’t be asking if you should build on NJ

[shell willow]

if i wanna try out ddgs then should i get chang chun or an shan or it doesnt matter?

[viscid swift]

yes

[thin haven]

Alr

[jade heart]

nagato, and pair her with your farmable cvs you get in like ch3

[eager mulch]

dogshit advice don’t do that

[viscid swift]

do you have any of the retrofit items already?

[shell willow]

not yet

[viscid swift]

how far behind are you on UR Bullins and have you done Sandy's retro already?

[shell willow]

got sandy retro and have enough UR bullin to mlb all URs i got (including vanguard tomorrow)

[viscid swift]

An Shan then, if you have her

[soft raft]

*Akagi and Kaga have been outdated as a strat since like 2018, DO NOT go for them (outside of collection)

[young sparrow]

It turns out that even on the old device I can’t log into my old account

[soft raft]

[atomic abyss]

bruh absolutely not

[atomic abyss]

then you should take your account as gone

anyways commander level 36 is very easy to reach back so

[eager mulch]

also that acct definitely needed help

0lb depressed nano

[jade heart]

not the fox, the rabbits; easier tor farm for new player

[young sparrow]

Well, level 36 is easy to get, but what was there is not

[eager mulch]

still worse than just taking hood

[soft raft]

still worse
the rabbits arent really much of a improvement over Akaga either

At best they're just fleet tech fodder

[atomic abyss]

rabbits are worse pre retro anyways
only better cos lower rarity

[atomic abyss]

well not much we can do about that so

[young sparrow]

(RU) Спасибо вам, я очень благодарен. (ENG) Thank you, I'm very grateful.

[soft raft]

welp sucks to suck but you cant do anything about that now
Just learn your lesson and properly bind your new account this time to prevent a simillar accident later

[eager mulch]

properly build the acct too

[jade heart]

hard to get buffs for bbs as new player, cv can get air raid assistance and helena pretty easily
hood reload buff hard to sync with helena debuff too

[atomic abyss]

[eager mulch]

hood > nagato buff, it’s as shrimple as that

[atomic abyss]

nagato is a burden outside her buffs to begin with

[soft raft]

Bruh Helena is right there for BBs

And Hood's reload buff barely does shit

[young sparrow]

Damn, most of the social networks in the country are not accessible, and my Google account, from which I logged in, was linked, but oh the miracle of crooked hands...

[atomic abyss]

also you can just give hood a mk6 to sync with helena anyways...

[keen sable]

Google only works with yostar...

[jade heart]

it's enough to throw off helena timings after the first one

[atomic abyss]

i mean

[viscid swift]

2nd Carrier Division still has a lot of the same issues as 1st Carrier Division

1. They aren't s difficult to farm but staying around for them usually means sticking around in W3 longer than necessary
2. They need to be paired together preferably and for the early game this is not practical because Unicorn and a BB is basically mandatory
3. They need their retrofits ideally and new players have enough to do as is
4. even in the mid game where when you do retrofit them, and pair them in the boss fleet with Nagato, you're lacking flexibility with the set up as they all need to be sortied together to get the most of them and make all the investment worthwhile

[atomic abyss]

you say it as tho nagato does not have a reload buff herself...

[young sparrow]

Sorry, I don’t fully understand this topic, but I think they will help me in supporting the game

[atomic abyss]

regardless, hood alone is just leagues better than nagato for a new player since you're not restricted team comp wise

even for a veteran
you just wouldn't use nagato outside super niche cases
hood can still be used for a BC slot

[jade heart]

she has reload buff all the time which is easier to sync
hood has slow first shot than faster subsequent shots, and the later shots also affect entire backline timings too

[viscid swift]

compare that to a backline of say Hood, Enterprise, and Saratoga retrofit
not only is the main fleet overall stronger but when you need to shuffle your fleets around they can be put into other fleets without any dip in performance because they're not relying on each other for buffs

[eager mulch]

also helena sync in campaign

[crimson glacier]

pretty sure hood without helena still does more than nagato with helena

[atomic abyss]

^^^^

[soft raft]

^

[atomic abyss]

nagato 40% barrage proc that gets blocked by shields vs hood's 100% proc barrage that ignores shields anyways

the fact is, she's a shit ship with good buffs
that's all

[soft raft]

Yeah
Nagato's value purely lies in her buffs which is a bad idea comp wise for reasons already stated earlier

[jade heart]

I assumed the new player was trying to get boss fleet, I agree hood is superior for mob fleet

[atomic abyss]

a new player wouldn't even be building 2 fleets lol

[soft raft]

you wouldnt get Nagato for your boss fleet either

[warm latch]

1 fleet is good up to like world 10 iirc

[soft raft]

new players wouldnt even have the resources to properly focus on building a second fleet until like W9-10 anyways

[jade heart]

yeah they should be trying to rush w9 asap

[atomic abyss]

and even then
nelson retro exists anyways

nagato is just nelson pre-retro with the sakura buffing skill

[glossy spear]

I’ve been saving up my wisdoms cubes and was wondering what I should use them on/when I should use them or if I should just continue saving them?

[atomic abyss]

1 light build a day outside events
use them on event builds with URs primarily

[novel solstice]

Save them until events, especially UR events. Rainbow gatcha ships are really powerful.

[soft raft]

and more expensive to Limit break cuz SR

[glossy spear]

Ok are there any UR events coming up?

[novel solstice]

Outside of events, do one light build per day becuase there is a daily mission to do one build, which gives you a cube to make up for the one cube you spent on the light build.

[atomic abyss]

this week yes, for HMS Vanguard

[young sparrow]

In the game support, I indicated absolutely everything that was possible to indicate. Do you think they can return everything to normal?

[soft raft]

We have a UR rerun this week
next new UR is in Sept

[atomic abyss]

unlikely

[glossy spear]

Oh ok I guess I just wait for whenever the event starts this week

[tranquil saffron]

Are there any BBs that vanguard works especially well with?

[eager mulch]

vorolishov timed barrage clears her slow?

[atomic abyss]

especially without UID

[atomic abyss]

almost all of them lmao

[soft raft]

maint for it starts in like 13 hours from now with maint lasting usually 8 hours after that

[atomic abyss]

obviously, HMS Vanguard will work to her best with other UR BBs (not named UvH)

[young sparrow]

Only transactions were not indicated, but everything else was indicated accurately

[atomic abyss]

so?

it doesn't guarantee they'll recover it

you can try your luck

that's about it

[young sparrow]

It’s worth a try, otherwise it’s a shame to lose all that goodness

[atomic abyss]

also trust me, it's not hard to get what was in that account

[eager mulch]

can vorolishov reapply her slow with her timed barrage debuff active

[atomic abyss]

not like a new player will find any use in shinano anyways

[glossy spear]

Wait I was reading this and is Saratoga a good investment if im a beginner? I got her but haven’t really been paying attention to her?

[viscid swift]

yes

[atomic abyss]

well not over unicorn, but yes otherwise

[young sparrow]

I understand, but I still want to return him.

[glossy spear]

Oh ok I’ll just invest into her after retrofitting unicorn

[atomic abyss]

well all the best then
don't get your hopes up recovering your account though

[young sparrow]

Thank you, I hope for the best

[atomic abyss]

and after you retrofit portland
and after you retrofit your starter

[sonic arch]

If you run Shimanto and Sandy on the same fleet can both use the Shimanto gun? The "only one can be active at a time" throws me off

[soft raft]

(only one special AA Gun from this gear may be active at a time per ship) IE CLs that can equip two CL guns like Seattle cant have two Shimanto guns and have the special AA from both of them active

Sandy wouldnt want it in the first place when she can mount DD Guns

[sweet delta]

Yes but that's. Not a good idea for sandy

[silk helm]

should i retro independence or san diego first?

[sweet delta]

Depends on your ships

[sonic arch]

Need the extra AA for Musashi to survive

[atomic abyss]

Independence since you need to sacrifice protocore for Sandy retro item imo

[silk helm]

okay, and i don't think im going to push w13 anytime soon

[shell willow]

where?

[atomic abyss]

All the more then

[sweet delta]

If you put shimanto gun on sandy, you're throwing away like a third of Sandy's damage for a 1% boost in AA

[loud rover]

Sandy also extremely expensive to retro in general

[sonic arch]

W15. Keep losing the boss battle because planes murder Musashi even with Sandy and Shimanto on the front

[patent pivot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1263105136100900904/1263137722411778161/image.png?ex=6699242c&is=6697d2ac&hm=c280265d842dcef7faef2411534b4527054c13393c883076d30868c32433cf45&

Voroshilov is better than none but far worse than soy

[soft raft]

Do you have Aquila or no

[sonic arch]

Not on the boss fleet, should I?

[sweet delta]

Did you read /w15

[soft raft]

no but also why are you using Musashi in boss

[sonic arch]

Honestly good point

[lament bay]

i need help to do 14-3 and 14-4 at 3*, my mob fleet cant do a lot of fights out of ammo; and i think wasting oil to lower threat level isnt the play 🤔

[sweet delta]

What's the fleet

[lament bay]

1s

[viscid swift]

who's Voroshilov replacing?

[silk helm]

is there a way to do auto battle without going to theboss when it spawns

[viscid swift]

with auto search no

[patent pivot]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/?AFLD=No4ZgBjBGBOCA0AWGA2RSCs10PqgJkWgHZcCkliIroiEAiEgDgBN3WAjAQweQF0E4CNGa4YEZhmy589ClQQLq0CAXpM27Tjz5JBwaKLXEYUvCNkRCxMomUJVtDSw5deAg8BIRMJvKoQ9urmBKjoiDYIEY7WIi7M3G4e%2BkJgsPB%2BCGDMFIjpYIo5eY6UxGWxPnSImtx19XoGJBn%2BzJgxxUW5itAVvT0QPuo1LPUNno5ewjDwyGjSOIhytuR9NPEjWtopBpCi4qrmWIsWUQ4OqqrDjK7augJCRlL00GZLlu9RpKsDzptu930Xh8fnosECwQIoXCQWi9BiqnQ1RuiWSjTSg0k%2BW6%2BVghWxJX65QGQwSYzq6O8LXobQ6OOy9KJpRJajJ5MagmgU0gMww82QMk%2BLzsSjWfxRAJ2GP2%2BUOCysZwqFxErP%2BdylhmMLzeFhOy0cIuV4s0ko5QnALSynVx%2BIZhL6a1JmySHA1kB85mt2TxXXtPUdqpR5I1zXgNPasK9XqZMcx11q7ImXPN0zgfJOxwVwp%2B1GNt22lL2YllWIFeus8iVayuCQ4Og1T38r2MuqzK3sYo2ErrOy86UyBKKPsHxNHlUDtTRD2EHpH3tt0YdLPjo0TqWARB8PgQtMj9MX-uXbLGZuToCGmKUIXlQvbooGe1rPcLImL2TlZbb947Axraq4gIGI22otvA5ZfIanbIiaz4TCA-a%2BHOBS%2BoeY6qE6QZTuu7qllGw52qhzLUBhCYntOoatBGSGMkuxETquZFApM-AAIQQAAdIMLEsB63CwEAA

[eager mulch]

nice virus

[modest moat]

What’s the cap on adaptability for hardbiter

[eager mulch]

203/203/156

[modest moat]

Ty

[lament bay]

im using this

usually its unicorn who gets killed first i try to alternate her and klaudia on top

[silk helm]

u gave up spreading EN virus?

[lament bay]

thats where the BBs show up at least

[teal magnet]

During events, should I just totally ignore the main campaign? (2 months in)

[sweet delta]

Change all hunting bows to scepters, all vanguard AA guns to twin 113, a different eagle union gear that's not a washing machine for laffii

[viscid swift]

you need more ASW to be comfortable taking out subs without ammo, drop the rudder on Laffey for a Purple Depth charge launcher

also, are you using subs?

[shell willow]

what helped me 3 star 14-3 was more offensive vanguard, sandy shimakaze yuudachi, but i was using aquila instead of klaudia

[lament bay]

idk what do you mean exactly by using them

they are just on the map, and i deploy them on the boss

[shell willow]

but thats just me personally

[viscid swift]

Use them to help clear mobs when your fleet is out of ammo

[shell willow]

also yeah subs

[viscid swift]

Call them later into the battle so they don't surface before the battle ends

[lament bay]

do they get also healed?

[viscid swift]

No

That's why you don't want them to surface

[lament bay]

also is there a place to get gray plates?

[shell willow]

dismantling equip ig

[cobalt rapids]

<w13 or boxes or medal shop

[lament bay]

t1/t2 boxes?

ah the blue equips give them

[sweet delta]

300 from medal shop per month, or T2 or T3 boxes

Or farm event B maps or campaign 2-4 or 3-4

[shell willow]

better follow that

[left cedar]

one option to get gray plates consistency is craft blue gears from the type u need, buy gray plates from medal shop, buy them with gold once appear in shop, open T2 or T3 boxes and do comms that have gray plates as reward. with this things i got my gray plates incrensing around 100-300 month

[shell willow]

first time hearing about people running low on grey plates

[light trail]

just to double check, is chang chun retro worth spending 1000 UR cores on? for reference, i have 11780 rn and hit the monthly cap already but dont have any UR not mlb apart from NJ (who i hear is low prio now)

[left cedar]

i start to notice that my gray plates are being slowly drecesing around 3y ago, once Nereeza (R.I.P) show a print that he running out of them ... from there to here i start to track my own gray and try different methods to keep incrensing them

[lament bay]

yeah like im not out of them but i have basically 5k of every blue, 1/2k+ on purple but all grey are lower than 700 each which i found weird

[sweet delta]

If you have none of Tai Yuan retrofit item or An Shan retrofit item or An Shan then ok

[light trail]

okok. if an shan comes back next february should i retro her too or is one enough

[white agate]

wait, how do you run out of grey? where are you using them?

[left cedar]

i got 30k+ Blue, 17k+ Purple and ... 7k Grays ... so yeah, i found weird why grays that theorically have less use than blues and purple being so low, the reason is Researchs ... nad the fact that its quite rare ships came with blue Planes or AA Guns ... and all of them dont came with Auxs ... that is the fuck reason my gray are so fucked up

[lament bay]

ill start doing that in events at least

[left cedar]

i have a better value of my oil and time using the methods i write a bit above

[verbal mulch]

Buy the grey plates there monthly until you’re comfortable with your amount. You don’t need a big buffer

[cobalt rapids]

Q1h cut through plates like butter

[verbal mulch]

Grey plate farming is the endgame

[sweet delta]

One is enough, but by that time you would be rich and an old player who can afford it anyways so why not

[atomic abyss]

NJ or UvH
which has more use assuming i already have a fully built UR BB fleet
or best to invest into something else like mog

[soft raft]

NJ

[knotty dome]

i heard mog had a bug on release or something, has that been fixed yet?

[soft raft]

Honestly dunno if Mog would be a high prio to focus on
I've only MLB'd her becayse I had a excess of spec core

[atomic abyss]

long has since been fixed while event was still ongoing

well it wasn't even a bug

[soft raft]

that's been fixed for quite a while now
It was more like janky as shit mechanics

[knotty dome]

so is mog actually good? if so at what?

[atomic abyss]

so save for the sept UR is whatcha saying

[atomic abyss]

very good, yes
at light armour shredding

[stark quiver]

mog is good dps, but just not as high prio as other URs

[soft raft]

very good but if you have all the URs (And other top DDs), you might struggle on finding places for her within top comps

[soft raft]

pretty much yee

[verbal mulch]

Isn’t she still vulnerable to getting shotgunned quickly? They didn’t give her full immunity during the strike,

[knotty dome]

i see. i do have all the other rainbows (other than pr7 ofc), and i have 3 UR bulins, should i just wait and see for the jp anni UR first before mlb mog?

[atomic abyss]

no more than most other ships so

[knotty dome]

ok thanks

[knotty dome]

what makes her good at anti light? is it AoA / her slash barrage?

[atomic abyss]

very strong DD gunnery

and DD gunnery is pretty much only good for light

[knotty dome]

thanks

[atomic abyss]

she can be better than hinden against light

[earnest flare]

what’s my best full BB main for opsi (including vanguard im hopefully gonna get tomorrow)? right now I have NJ/fdg/uvh but I know uvh doesn’t sync well

[viscid swift]

NJ, UvH, Vanguard

[atomic abyss]

fdg nj vanny

[sweet delta]

Tai yuan does more DMG but is a lot less tanky and doesn't do fleet buffs/debuffs

[thin haven]

Is Hood good in early stages?

[loud rover]

Hood still good when you need a BC in hard mode

[thin haven]

What should I pair with her?

[teal lance]

laffey is good apparantly for early game, should i spend a lot of resource to limit break her?

[sweet delta]

Yes and stop using Chicago, repulse, and Fletcher

Buy Unicorn, Portland, Pennsylvania, and Helena from the guild shop

[teal lance]

i dont have guild

[sweet delta]

You have guild shop

[soft raft]

5 other good ships that fit the content you're doing

[soft raft]

You dont need to be in a guild to acess the guild shop

[viscid swift]

might wanna give that a read among other things
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[teal lance]

ye looking for the guild shop rn

[sweet delta]

When were amagi and little enterprise servers added?

[soft raft]

Shop -> Supply -> Guild

[teal lance]

damn, why is the ui so hard

[tame jungle]

you get used to it

[teal lance]

these three right?

[sweet delta]

The left two

[eager mulch]

not gonna be a datamine tonight right?

[sweet delta]

Buy two of these, check if there's anything else to buy, refresh the shop, buy the other two, check if there's anything else to buy

[teal lance]

it cost 50 to refresh tho

[stark quiver]

50 out of 4000 isnt a lot

[teal lance]

true

[stark quiver]

once you join guild, youll be getting alot of guild coins

[teal lance]

I see time to spend oil, im super capped

[tame jungle]

just going forward, this channel is not really meant for general chatting. try only messaging here if you actually have a question. have fun!

[sweet delta]

I need help

[little tree]

I been on little enterprise since March so at least March

[tulip thorn]

How can i make them survive in 14-1?

[atomic abyss]

not using a shitty frontline

[stark quiver]

lil e was added en anni right?

[frigid linden]

Is Independence 5% bonus worth the 4 seconds?

[tulip thorn]

Will it survive 12-1 tho?

(i can add one more vanguard but idk who)

[atomic abyss]

12-1 and 14-1 are very different
it will live thru 12-1 easily

[atomic abyss]

honestly neither are worth using

[atomic abyss]

easily, but why are you even using gridley and fletcher

[tulip thorn]

Bc i dont have that many ships to lvl up and i need to farm for Halford

[atomic abyss]

use... US CL/As?

[tulip thorn]

In 14-1?

[atomic abyss]

why not w12/13

w14 isn't exactly good for levelling up ships

and even if it were 14-1
yes, you don't need DDs

most US DDs are horrendous

[tulip thorn]

More cogs in w14

[atomic abyss]

you can't have your cake and eat it too

if you want to farm w14 for cogs, you actually need proper team comps that are levelled

if you want to level ships, fall back

if you want to farm w14 and halford
use US CL/As instead of trash US DDs

or ya know, laffey 2/Guam

if you want to level up the non allen m sumner class US DDs
go back to w12

[sweet delta]

3 bad level 105-110 DDs is usable in 14-1 if you bring the right main fleet, which is (fdg or Musashi) + unicorn + Volga, and enough crossfleets and air supremacy

[tulip thorn]

I mean, i've been farming in 14-1 for months now
But i've always used 1 SR+1Elite+1R or 1SR+2R
Just now i'm struggling a bit to make a comp bc i need a specific faction

[tulip thorn]

Ill try

[atomic abyss]

then maybe use synergistic ones

use fletcher with other fletchers
gridley buffs torps (lol US torps)

or again, use US CL/CAs?

[tulip thorn]

So these ones?

[tulip thorn]

Got these

[atomic abyss]

might as well push that guam to 125

[tulip thorn]

Yeah, forgot about her lmao

[stark quiver]

youre farming?

[atomic abyss]

guam houston 2 st louis then

houston 2 is actually a good CL too

[dawn crest]

Does anyone have a roadmap of rerun events and new events?

[atomic abyss]

we don't get roadmaps for new events or reruns

all we know is the order of events in the past, and from there guess how they may rerun

[keen sable]

Well there you go pretty obvious why you're failing. No sr.

[tulip thorn]

Still didnt tried it tho

[sacred parrot]

Do i bother building a full sakura fleet if im gonna be using Shinano and Hakuryuu

[crimson glacier]

there is no benefit from faction

[atomic abyss]

absolutely not
just need to hit 3 sakura ships for shinano skill

[sacred parrot]

Any suggestions

[atomic abyss]

kazagumo is the usual pick, since she buffs CVs

[sacred parrot]

oke

[atomic abyss]

though of course musashi works too if she's not used elsewhere

unzen also works of course

[stark quiver]

if you wanna hit torps, in a cv fleet, its mostly haku,nano,implac
then either kazagumo or azuma in special situations to get 3rd ijn

[atomic abyss]

well triple CV for opsi/w12/w13 at least

[tulip thorn]

Ill try now thanks

[vivid arch]

how good is shimanto compared to other meta ships? never see her in any fleet/meta fleed

just generel question, wanna know if shes worth to pull because im low on cubes

[uneven cave]

You can’t pull shimanto

[vivid arch]

wait theres no way next patrch i can get her?

[uneven cave]

She’s PR

[vivid arch]

ah

is she still worth going for? im quite new

[viscid swift]

as a new player PR should not be a primary focus

[shell willow]

shes pretty good at lategame stuff, as a newbie you should do other seasons first in PR

[stark quiver]

she isnt the first ship youd want to research

[vivid arch]

allright ty guys

oh im dumb i meant shimakaze not shimanto lol

[soft raft]

Shimakaze has been pretty powercrept
not a high priority to pull for over this upcoming Vanguard rerun or future URs

[fluid shore]

How do stronghold spawns work in OpSi? Assuming you clear them as soon as they spawn, do you get 1 per day? x per week? n per month?

[inner delta]

1 per week

2 after monthly reset

[kind needle]

Which pr ship should go next? (On pr 1: izumo, nep and Ibuki. On pr 2: Kitakaze and Azuma. On pr 3: Cheshire, Drake and Odin. Pr 4 is finished)

[hollow gust]

Go finish pr5 then

[lapis ivy]

Anyone able to help with a french team?

[hollow gust]

Idk why you are skipping around every season

[kind needle]

Which ship?

[kind needle]

Idk, I get what I want. (Waifu reasons)

[hollow gust]

Well the usual strategy is to finish a season then move to the next , gets the entire thing done in ~4 months

[kind needle]

So, my unfinished pr1-3 is just redundant?

[hollow gust]

?

[lapis ivy]

Do I have a good french team to make here?

[hollow gust]

No , run mixed fleets

[kind needle]

I mean, I havent done Azuma and Drake yet

[hollow gust]

You missed two of the most op French ships

[lapis ivy]

I don't play this religiously

I barely keep up with it

[kind needle]

You missed the recent UR?

[lapis ivy]

Yes

I had no idea there was a new one I don't check the news that much either lmao

[undone plover]

Feb, May, Sep and Dec are new UR events usually

[lapis ivy]

So I'm guessing all I have isn't good?

[kind needle]

I know one of em is Alsace, which is the other one?

[kind needle]

Idk why they rerun Vanguard rn, when my coins are drained

[lapis ivy]

How long does it take for a UR to rerun?

[inner delta]

because they don't plan rerun based on players coin

[kind needle]

2 years

[undone plover]

U can just farm coins on 12-4
Shouldn’t be an issue

[viscid swift]

even turn around time is in excess of years at this point

[kind needle]

The problem

[shell willow]

we knew about the rerun for more than a week so thats on u

[stark quiver]

Touch grass

[lapis ivy]

Do I at least have a good frontline?

[kind needle]

My skill issue ig

[undone plover]

We will get maint oil
Next week pack and missions + event shop oil.
U can reduce coin expenses from research and shipyard coining

And u get 44 free tickets
Good luck

[hollow gust]

Meh

[lapis ivy]

Haiyaa

[hollow gust]

Jeanne is good but that's only for making your frontline extremly tanky

[lapis ivy]

Cause I'm tryna go for the new french pr

[stark quiver]

take 5 or 6 ships u wanna level and run 12-1/4

[hollow gust]

Why are you jumping around seasons , even if you are then you can just run anything that lives

[stark quiver]

wait whats the context here

[lapis ivy]

I'm not even past 10

[copper glacier]

Guys help. Which do I pick?

[lapis ivy]

I don't play enough

[stark quiver]

one with the lowest u currently have, or any if you dont care

[copper glacier]

I don't know which is lowest.

[hollow gust]

then cvheck

[copper glacier]

How?

[white agate]

are there previsions about how much will pass between vanguard event and next ur event?

[hollow gust]

no reruns can be random, next UR shou be september tho

[viscid swift]

no, but I rather doubt we'll see Musashi before the JP Anni event in September

[hollow sail]

usually it's one of the first two you need most

[white agate]

thanks

[soft raft]

We're a few events off of Musashi rerun anyways

[lapis ivy]

I really don't play enough if this says anything (first played during the first year of the game just went on and off)

[stark quiver]

doesnt matter really

[sonic arch]

Do cats gain EXP in OpSi? It's been years since I raise a batch of cats

[undone plover]

Getting to 12-4 shouldnt take long
And then u can slack there as much as u want.
if u play super casual then expect to miss a few events every now and then

[soft raft]

actually after updating this image, is this the first time we've had two back-to-back SP events for major event slots?

[worldly pewter]

very smol amounts

[sonic arch]

alrighty thanks

[kind needle]

So, the rainbow fct will have a rerun?

[undone plover]

The event that aux was from is rerunning yes

[rapid grail]

flexing 2nd copy until it gets perma'd in Gear Lab 💀

anyway it's a better HSFCR in practice + spread reduction

[soft raft]

Honestly doubt it'd be added to gear lab due to the utter lack of aux gear being craftable there but who knows

[hushed aurora]

Now that I have 2 stable fleets can I focus on certain factions for shipyard?

[soft raft]

If you're at at least W9 yee

[viscid swift]

W12 or bust for me

[hushed aurora]

I am on 12-4 right now

[viscid swift]

you really need the improved coin income to sustain research

[rapid grail]

mk7 did. I lost interest after

[viscid swift]

Mk7 isn't an aux

[hushed aurora]

but I was told that friedrich is very strong and other Iron blood ships so I wanted to raise some random ones because I got a lot of them due to events that happen lately

[viscid swift]

it'll probably get added to the Core Data shop, that's where they've stuck all the event auxes thus far

[hushed aurora]

and enough lb units

[soft raft]

That's because that's a gun
AFCT is a aux item and there are no craftable aux items in gear lab

[viscid swift]

you're in W12, go fo it

[soft raft]

@viscid swift You got a better event log sheet than I do, what do you think?

[viscid swift]

I do think based on the info we have right now it will be an SP, raid event, or a something like the RPG or Coalition event

a large event is almost certainly out of the question, the event will drop before the end of the month, the stream is this Friday and no Call to Arms has been announced

[forest palm]

we'll know in like 36 hrs

[viscid swift]

you are also right in that this is a bit of a first in a long while of 2 new medium sized events in a row

typically July has been a large event slot so this new development is interesting to say the least

[bold salmon]

it will end up in the core shop?

[viscid swift]

that's what I presume will happen the AFCT

[soft raft]

AFCT? Most likely due to a complete lack of a aux gear category in gear lab

[forest palm]

would hope not in the limited section

[torn phoenix]

what is a Call to Arms?

[soft raft]

It's essentially a one week long "Prep phase" before a major event drops

[stark quiver]

is phase 2 of cta always a frame

[forest palm]

ya, or coin if you already have it

[uncut current]

World 15 ! (15-2 especially)

[agile sky]

Having a maxed canteen + oil from commission and quest, is that enough usually to get everything u usually want from an event shop? Or would u typically need extra?

[soft raft]

depends on what you define as "what you usually want"

[agile sky]

rainbow gear + BP + 1 copy of new unit for starters?

[soft raft]

max canteen itself prob wont be enough without regeneration, and you cant really quantify comission RNG, but you should be able to grind out enough for all of that if you grind D maps and do the SP map every day

[signal pollen]

Since catch up are limited, doesn’t it mean I should use catch up for DR prints instead of AVP

[viscid swift]

given that daily first clear bonuses, and missions, is enough to get in excess of 30k event points

[soft raft]

All the DRs have their own sepreate 150 catchup while all of the PR ships in a season share the same pool of 300

[signal pollen]

Oh neat, thanks. I got worried

[agile sky]

good point, follow up question. Does that mean even if u got cracked luck and got all event ship by day 2, you would still keep doing 3 pulls a day for the event pts?

[soft raft]

depends on the # of cubes you have (Esp if you have less than 400) but I generally wouldnt reccomend it

[viscid swift]

you get build tickets during the rerun so yes

[silk sphinx]

There are free pulls

[soft raft]

ah right the free pulls
yeah use those instead for that

[silk sphinx]

But if you’ve used them all I would just do the one light pull

Not worth spending 5 extra cubes per day for a measly 300 event points

[agile sky]

okay gotcha

[silk sphinx]

By the by it’s pretty much always 2k coins if you have a collectible cosmetic already right?

[viscid swift]

yes

[candid meteor]

should i buy the prints for the 457 or ply gun in the proto core shop while im waiting for reset

[soft raft]

Ply gun

[lofty blaze]

is there an upcoming Iris libre event?(for pr7 Iris libre mommy)

[stark quiver]

nobody knows

[forest palm]

build a time machine

[soft raft]

The French already got their major event for the year which was back in May

[soft raft]

Also give this a read (Bayard needs 20 less than Brest so the stuff here still applies)
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#ffnf

[candid meteor]

thsat was alsace right?

[viscid swift]

there's an upcoming Vichiya event

[soft raft]

Alsace and Mogador yee

[gaunt tapir]

aren't they doing a livestream in 2 days showing the next event?

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

yes
and that's for the afformentioned Vichya event

[candid meteor]

is there a chart or something that shows the efficiency of different stages for exp and coins>

[soft raft]

scroll down the pins for that
but tbh in practice its just "Go do 12-1/12-4"

[cerulean musk]

how do you survive the 15-2 boss

[rocky fjord]

reset alot

[soft raft]

You out-DPS it before it can nuke you

[stark quiver]

either kill it fast enough, use eva or reset

[cerulean musk]

couldnt pause fast enough

[remote yarrow]

Isn't that Sandy tanking?

[stark quiver]

hopefully not

[cerulean musk]

nj suddenly disappeared

[soft raft]

oh god yeah i think that is Sandy main tanking

[cerulean musk]

she cant?

[soft raft]

Bruh Guam is right there

[stark quiver]

oh man.... surprised she isnt dead

[remote yarrow]

She "can" but is she good at it? No, use Guam

[stark quiver]

u need to pay close attention to when the enemy boss fires

[kind needle]

Can my fleet push through W14 or no?

[cerulean musk]

im still levelling guam so

wont guam be at a massive level disadvantage

[soft raft]

that boss fleet is most likely gonna die horribly
No suicide boat interception and the vanguard barely has any damage output

Plus what are Kazagumo and Sirius doing in campaign

[kind needle]

Still on W13-1

[remote yarrow]

That boss fleet looks dead af

[kind needle]

But from 13-1 to 13-4 would it push?

[hushed aurora]

Is lvling in dorms worth it? Or should I juszr run 12-1

[little tree]

Your vanguard looks underleveled

[stark quiver]

1 healer in mob, 0 asw in mob not counting uni, , boss fleet gonna get nuked

[remote yarrow]

Fleets for W13 and W14 are pretty different

[stark quiver]

could do both

[remote yarrow]

And even for W13 it's underleveled

[kind needle]

Oh, I see, but the question, would it push through 13?

[hushed aurora]

does it matter if a ship dies for exp?

because how do you lvl vanguard? frontlines in general

[cerulean musk]

how do i even auto 15-2 if the boss just keeps 1 shotting

[stark quiver]

probably not enough AA in mob, u can try once and see

[remote yarrow]

Most ppl exp book the vanguards they are gonna level to 70 at least and carry then with strong backline

[hushed aurora]

ok then I made a mistake by lvl a backline -.-

[remote yarrow]

Huh

[kind needle]

Lemme create a thread, I need help for fleet build and who to raise

[stark quiver]

pause & reset if abt to die, run washers on main fleet, or out-dps it

[cerulean musk]

how to outdps it

[stark quiver]

more damage, if u cant, try first 2 options

[cerulean musk]

ya what fleet does more dmg

[glossy spear]

Hood can replace Pennsylvania right?

[cerulean musk]

i already have the washer on nj

[worldly pewter]

no way look who is here

[cerulean musk]

[remote yarrow]

If you are still one fleeting with the recommended starter fleet, yes

[stark quiver]

just keep resetting

[glossy spear]

Thx

[stark quiver]

also fyi, guam is perfectly usable at 120 in 15-2, 15-4 is still fine with one 120

[cerulean musk]

i see

but the fleet im using is ok? no one better than nj?

[remote yarrow]

Though of course she needs MLB and levels, don't just put her at 0LB and expect her to be better than MLB Penny

[brittle cosmos]

Do meta ships contribute to PR Exp farming?

[kind needle]

Fleet help

[stark quiver]

you could try running alsace or bis2

[cerulean musk]

o alsace i tried at lv120 same thing happened, zwei not yet

[remote yarrow]

Have you read the /w15 doc?

[glossy spear]

So she’s worth MLB using universal?

[cerulean musk]

yea the fleet worked fine for 15-1 but keep failing 15-2

[stark quiver]

at this point, just pay attention to when ise and hyuuga fire

[cerulean musk]

even nj with dmg reduction not enough to tank 15-2

[remote yarrow]

She uses Gold bulins tho, but that's the only way to Limit Break her if you don't have any Hood dupes

[stark quiver]

for reference this is what i used

[cerulean musk]

i see

[stark quiver]

was able to 3 star 15-2, alsace almost died, but its fine because im never touching -2 ever again

[teal lance]

How fast does oil recharge?

[glossy spear]

Ok I MLBed her using gold bulins

[sacred parrot]

I thought unicorn was better on mob fleets

[remote yarrow]

Depends on your Canteen level

[teal lance]

ye just noticed tyty

[remote yarrow]

And she is

[silk sphinx]

What?

[kind needle]

I’m done sending my dock and fleets at #1263277852787212363

[silk sphinx]

Oh sorry I misunderstood, they specified vanguard ships

[remote yarrow]

Yeah I might have made some grammatical* errors too

[silk sphinx]

Still, a “strong” back line isn’t rly a requirement

Akshually it’s *grammatical

[stark quiver]

honestly just need decent backline with "good gear"

[cerulean musk]

crafted a bunch of rainbow gear to die in 3 seconds to the boss

[stark quiver]

what rainbow gear, and also like i said just do this

[cerulean musk]

like 3 wyverns

yea im doing the boss fight now

theres just so much stuff going on in teh fight cant really see much

[stark quiver]

if u want u could record just boss phase then send it here

[cerulean musk]

how cooked am i

[stark quiver]

at around :24 you could see them both start firing at you

[hollow gust]

Just restart lmao

[stark quiver]

which promptly wipes your backline

[cerulean musk]

and i have to do this 5 more times if i beat it

brugh...

[stark quiver]

tragic, what gear is backline running?

[hollow gust]

If you exit out of the battle you wouldn't lol

[rain vine]

you using subs?

[stark quiver]

oh u right

[hollow gust]

Gear isn't that bad

[cerulean musk]

not enough to survive all the shelling tho

[sweet delta]

I mean NJ is half hp

[cerulean musk]

not sure where my subs went i think they ran out of ammo

[sweet delta]

You probably let them die

[cerulean musk]

this happened earlier it was too fast

[stark quiver]

use subs

try running hsfcr on nj, wyvern and golds catapult on indep

you could manually move subs around map

[hollow gust]

Your nj shouldn't be so low HP in the first place tho

[sweet delta]

NJ with rudder is extremely unlikely to go from 100 to 0 in 3 seconds

[cerulean musk]

im full hp all at the start

hsfcr isntead of shell?

[sweet delta]

It really is just use subs

[cerulean musk]

wait what does sub do to help me survive the shelling

[stark quiver]

yes, also try to manually launch airstrikes at start of each enemy wave

[rain vine]

gets rid of enemy ships faster

[sweet delta]

sub does damage to boss, boss dies, boss can't shoot your NJ

[stark quiver]

kill fast = they dont shoot you

[cerulean musk]

how much dmg do subs do normally didnt really pay attention to them

not levelled either

[stark quiver]

ik why they die, run the pressure hull design and snorkel

[cerulean musk]

i have them on the others

need all 3?

[rain vine]

yes

[stark quiver]

perferably yes

[cerulean musk]

so who still uses oxytorps

[stark quiver]

no one

[rain vine]

ostensibly you could run em if the reload is high enough on some ships, but its safer to use snorkel

[cerulean musk]

bruh....

[stark quiver]

oh well, not like theyll never be used

[rain vine]

personally i threw volga onto my boss fleet for a little sustain

[sweet delta]

Have too many rainbows oxytorps? Make rainbow type 95 kai sub torps so that your subs can drop hull for oxytorp

Volga won't sustain NJ

[cerulean musk]

is it rng whether the boss aims at my vanguard or main fleet

for their bb shots

[sweet delta]

No

[stark quiver]

backline deleter

[sweet delta]

Every X seconds, they will shoot your main fleet

[cerulean musk]

damn

what about using converging torpedo to kill off 1 boss fast instead of wyvern?

i noticed both bosses drop in hp pretty evenly

[sweet delta]

Yeah you can get rid of independence

[cerulean musk]

should be easier to sruvive with only 1 boss remaining

[sweet delta]

And Jeanne, might as well put Helena or other damage

[cerulean musk]

ok seems like cancelling all the bb shots with airstrike lets me survive

thx not looking forward to manualling all of it tho

sandy does so much dmg lol

[kind needle]

How many 155 kais do I need again atleast?

[cerulean musk]

why is it giving me 1 chip

[cerulean musk]

im using like 3 of them atm

[kind needle]

Aux?

[stark quiver]

click on the icon

[kind thistle]

What the hell is Mogador for; where does she fit? I just heard she got revamped, wasn't too tuned into al news.

[cerulean musk]

yea i was pushing w14

[stark quiver]

antilight dd, uhh i dont think she fits in a lot of comps

[cerulean musk]

oh

[soft raft]

she didnt get "Revamped", she just got fixed to be alot less janky
And it was months ago

Currently ig she has high anti-light DPS but that doesnt really help her land a spot in most high end comps

[cerulean musk]

mogador was months ago?

[soft raft]

yes back in May

[kind thistle]

How would I go about knowing whether a stage/chapter is a light/medium/heavy? So far I'm bogged down in CH. 14, so I just believe what I've been told and that it's filled with medium/heavy enemies

[stark quiver]

id mostly run he for mobs cuz i pick recon nodes and he/ap depending on boss, u can find on wiki

[keen sable]

It's filled with light ones but the dangerous enemies have always been medium heavy

[silk sphinx]

You can ask here but if you want to go really in depth there’s I think an enemy nodes tool on nagami.moe

[cerulean musk]

what would i swap independence for actually? she seems to be doing the most dmg

[stark quiver]

hakuryuu works

[cerulean musk]

ah ok

[kind thistle]

Thanks y'all for the help much love

[cerulean musk]

skypirate tenrai tenrai?

[stark quiver]

flapjack/tigercat tenrai wyvern

is what i ran

[cerulean musk]

ah

[signal pollen]

I finally read agir’s skill. I’m guessing these are not the guns she wants right?

[soft raft]

nah that's the right gun

[signal pollen]

So I can keep the main gun and not look for a future investment right?

[stark quiver]

though shes better off with a quad mag

[signal pollen]

Alright I switch to quad. Thanks

[keen sable]

Perhaps you should scrap it if you are going to keep "accidentally" using it

[signal pollen]

The 5 mag torpedo one?

Sorry, I used to assume the more the stronger

[remote yarrow]

Nah it's way too slow compared to Quad mag

about a 4~5s slower iirc

[signal pollen]

Aw that sucks. Thanks for the info

[light trail]

so i just beat opsi main story and beat the normal difficulty arbiter, what is the goal now

apart from secure every other zone i havent, im not sure. use loggers and stuff to go to hard zones until i run out of AP?

[viscid swift]

clear everything with a notification and dump the remaining AP on daily missions and C5 secured noes

[bronze crane]

Should I save up my UR bulins for vanguard?

[remote yarrow]

Would say so, but it also depends on what other URs you got that aren't MLB

[bronze crane]

Nj mlb, shinano and Alsace not mlb

[viscid swift]

Alsace would take priority over Vanguard

[bronze crane]

Okay thanks

[short wagon]

@viscid swift should i get vanguard

[stark quiver]

yea

[remote yarrow]

Yes, but why ping him specifically

[sweet delta]

It's understandable to want to ping good players to get good help

[remote yarrow]

Then why aren't you pinged

[sweet delta]

I'm undercover

[remote yarrow]

[short wagon]

bro knows my entire situation

[viscid swift]

I do?

[remote yarrow]

But I also answered you yesterday #gameplay-help message

[remote yarrow]

I think he thinks you do

[short wagon]

cuz like i made a thread and my whole acc is in there so like i just ask him bc he was rhere idk if that made sense

mb lol

[short wagon]

idk man u like seen my whole acc n shi

[viscid swift]

I probably have seen it lol, doesn't necessarily mean I remember all of it though

[cerulean musk]

is this normal? i brought my subs to the boss

15-2 boss

[south sequoia]

Depends on the timing of where you summoned subs, another factor is that they died too quickly or your fleet killed the boss too fast

[cerulean musk]

i summoned them when the boss spawned

[south sequoia]

Most likely whiffed

[cerulean musk]

rip

[stark quiver]

what lvl are they?

[south sequoia]

And yeah level is also a factor, as well as their gear

[south sequoia]

If they're running non-bidder stuff or non-magnetic/homing torpedos they're most likely gonn whiff

[stark quiver]

they had bidders, right?

[south sequoia]

Level disadvantage also came into play here

[cerulean musk]

yea tthey all using these

[south sequoia]

Thats like a good 20% damage penalty right there

[cerulean musk]

so how much dmg should the subs be doing

my ships did like 1mil dmg total

assuming the subs hit

[stark quiver]

i mean not much u can do abt it, other than level and if you can pass youre probably fine

[cerulean musk]

cos i was thinking of using the subs for mobs instead if it doesnt really help for boss

[south sequoia]

They can contribute up to 100k - 150k+ together

[viscid swift]

why not use them for both

call them later into the mob fights so they don't surface before the end of the battle and die

[cerulean musk]

ah cos i normally auto the mobs i wanted to auto this boss too but seems impossible

[viscid swift]

It's possible, your set up isn't exactly the best for it though

[cerulean musk]

after secured?

[sweet delta]

Is it a ijn difference? I did lethal 15-1 and 15-2 with 0 tech and Bisz Shinano haku

[viscid swift]

There's a good chance it is

[sweet delta]

But idk how bidder hull subs can do 3.5k damage

That's like a barrage and 1 torps' worth of damage, not really explainable by smokescreen

[viscid swift]

This is just a guess but are their skills even leveled?

[sweet delta]

Something smells fishy and it's not the wolves

[warm flax]

What's a bidder

[cerulean musk]

[signal fog]

maintenance today ?

[cerulean musk]

they are levelled

the skills at least

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Submarine-mounted_Mark_20S_"Bidder"_Torpedo#Type_0-0

[sweet delta]

/wiki bidder

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Submarine-mounted_Mark_20S_"Bidder"_Torpedo

[remote yarrow]

[sweet delta]

[candid meteor]

[viscid swift]

When exactly are you calling them into the fight?

[cerulean musk]

when the boss appears

[forest palm]

using subs truly is a headache

[warm flax]

Sorry @sweet delta I didn't follow your comp but managed to clear it

[sweet delta]

It's not that wrong, but ideal is 5 seconds before the boss spawns

[cerulean musk]

i see

[sweet delta]

And did you swap independence and Jeanne out?

[remote yarrow]

And at what time does boss spawn?

[south sequoia]

and people want a ur sub

[cerulean musk]

i only swapped independence to hakuryuu

i kept jeanne in case i randomly died out

[remote yarrow]

UR Frigate when

[warm flax]

Is there a lil difference between KMS sub lineup and USS one

Or huge

[cerulean musk]

i havent really been focusing on subs

[forest palm]

nothing wrong with that

[cerulean musk]

should i be swapping to uss then

[worldly pewter]

as long as u win

[cerulean musk]

dunno if the subs will be important for pushing to 15-4 and auto farming it

[forest palm]

content wise the game is made to be cleared without subs, but subs are valuable, I'd just stick to the current one you have tbh

[cerulean musk]

[crisp estuary]

I want a META sub

[remote yarrow]

There already is one tho

[forest palm]

556...

[candid meteor]

there is a meta sub

[atomic abyss]

I want a UR or DR sub
But I think the playerbase would curse me out of existence for either

[crisp estuary]

Better than having another UR BB

[crisp estuary]

We did not fight her

[forest palm]

like I care she is Meta

[atomic abyss]

I think shipwrite means a meta showdown fight with a meta sub

And honestly such a meta would be the largest pain in the ass to kill

Even if it did surface after some time

[forest palm]

highly doubt they'll make a Showdown Sub Meta Fight, too much of a headache

[worldly pewter]

fight it with subs

[rain vine]

by the time she surfaces, your vanguard is down 25%

[cerulean musk]

just make the boss sub start with 0 oxygen

[atomic abyss]

A place where Warkai would actually be relevant

[remote yarrow]

Holy

[plain saffron]

3 cv with 2 asw plane each

[atomic abyss]

3 CVL*

[cerulean musk]

ok i summoned the subs earlier and they didnt whiff more dmg now

[young ridge]

Question! I'm thinking of making a Chapter 13 Sakura backline fleet to help with grinding out the second half of Daisen's combat EXP, what would suggestions be?

I haven't spent much time there in over a year so outside of wanting good AA I don't really remember how to build a fleet for it anymore.

I don't care if they're already at 120/125 at this point. Just want that grind to go a little faster.

I thought maybe Hak & Shinano, but they're in the boss fleet and I'm not sure who to replace them with if I switched them.

[vale spindle]

ryuuhou

[atomic abyss]

Well I'm assuming they're already at 125 so we'll put them aside
I'll assume the same for Musashi, assuming you have her ofc

Your fleet will likely a healer so yes, Ryuuhou or Shouhou
Given Ryuuhou has fighters and Shouhou, she's gonna be preferred

[vale spindle]

cause you want ijn backline + healer

[atomic abyss]

Admittedly Ryuuhou doesn't heal as well but

[young ridge]

Yeah, pretty much have everyone but chap 15 girl.

[atomic abyss]

If you ran Shouhou you'd likely need to run 2 other CVs
Otherwise you can slot in an Owari or hell even an Izumo in

[viscid swift]

I'm moreso confused as to why W13 and not W12

[atomic abyss]

For 2 CVs
The bunny retros are a good shout
Souryuu does have +2 CV reload tech at 120

[young ridge]

I figured that ch13 would give me more exp for my oil.

[viscid swift]

It doesn't

[atomic abyss]

As cheeky pointed out
W12 also allows you to skimp on a healer

[viscid swift]

W12 is easier and more efficient

[atomic abyss]

So you won't need to run Ryuuhou or Shouhou

And you can even bring in Houshou to buff your CV experience...

[young ridge]

Ah, that would definitely be more efficient, yeah. I usually never grind more than 12 but I was gonna branch out if it was better.

[viscid swift]

This is how far I've gotten with just 1 day's worth of oil from commissions and canteen

[remote yarrow]

Already at your second one

[atomic abyss]

Yes Akashi is unironically a solid pick for w12/13

[viscid swift]

I got bored leveling regular ships

[stark quiver]

no long comm?

[viscid swift]

Of course not, haven't taken those in forever

[young ridge]

I was silly snd went Daisen first, when I was actually working on some Eagle gals before PR hit. But eh, I like her the most.

Okay, so just stick to 12. This is good to hear.

[stark quiver]

wait long comms are the 12 hour ones right?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[signal pollen]

Is it really possible to beat 12-1 boss with 0 ammo and level 100 fleet with bad gear?

Or is good gear mandatory

Cause I’m losing at the boss fight and it’s killing my morale

[stark quiver]

probably not

[atomic abyss]

You're not beating the boss reliably even with good gear

[stark quiver]

if youre farming, i used the shitters to fight mobs and then 2nd fleet to fight boss

[atomic abyss]

You are at 50% damage penalty from 0 ammo, you are also getting about another 10% penalty from level disadvantage

[signal pollen]

Yeah I might resort back to this then 😔 I don’t really wanna make fdg go from 120 -> 125 over flow

[atomic abyss]

If you ask me

Trying to 0 ammo 12-1 boss for exp grinding is just a dumb idea

Even if you can clear the boss
It defeats the entire purpose if you're not using low levelled stuff that you want to grind up to begin with

It's so much simpler just to use 2 fleets

[signal pollen]

So true. I will test my level 90 on main for mobbing and see how it goes. Thanks bro

[keen sable]

When you try to cheap out and instead it costs you more

[signal pollen]

yeh

I only have 7 iron blood mains anyways, two unbuilt and one elite rarity.

[formal zenith]

I'm doing war archives because I'm not high enough level to advance in the story. What's a D3 Boss fleet?

[soft raft]

the boss of the D3 map

[remote yarrow]

If you are gonna do a WA do Chessboard

[formal zenith]

I don't see that anywhere

[formal zenith]

I don't exactly know what that means. Only been playing a few weeks

[remote yarrow]

It's one down, one right from the one you were looking at

[cerulean musk]

how good is this still in pvp?

[remote yarrow]

#pvp

But likely not good

[cerulean musk]

oh i dont have that channel

[formal zenith]

I'm sped. I see it now.

[jaunty vault]

you can join it from channels & roles on top of channels list

[eager mulch]

I don’t want to join it

[cerulean musk]

[steady beacon]

A relic of a meta so ancient I've only heard the legends

[remote yarrow]

Wasn't that meta like 4 or 5 years ago

[steady beacon]

Yes, an elegant weapon for a more civilised age

[cerulean musk]

i havent updated for a while

[stark quiver]

a while may be an understatement

[eager mulch]

time to make my pvp defense fleet 6 child ships

[steady beacon]

Nah
It has to be five
Plus Ark Royal

[harsh hollow]

yo guys, at 10-2, is there any way to protect your flagship better, Its on level 116 and its already got half its health wiped after two turns

[remote yarrow]

Give it a fire extinguisher

[stark quiver]

sounds like u need fire extimguidher

[remote yarrow]

extimguidher

[eager mulch]

🧯

[steady beacon]

Alternative solution: just don't get burned

[eager mulch]

gn gph (and smo0tie)

[harsh hollow]

yea I think its workin guys, thanks

[remote yarrow]

[bright tusk]

what best BB fleet in game for fighting med armor boss?

[atomic abyss]

Bis Zwei, Vanguard, Soyuz

[steady beacon]

Assuming no unusual gimmicks, something like Bismarck Zwei + two of Soyuz, Vanguard, Alsace
Circumstances in the vanguard and other considerations may affect which of the two are best

[atomic abyss]

You could make a case to swap in Alsace over Vanguard yeah

[steady beacon]

Also unironically which guns you have
CVs are so easy because you just choose one of two fleets, put the right planes, and the enemy dies

Actually, soon to be one of three

[bright tusk]

how about musashi?

[frank pulsar]

musashi works

[remote yarrow]

I think she leans more towards the Heavy side

[steady beacon]

Ye she's fine
Although unless there's some weird mechanism in the fight that privileges her, I'm no longer inclined to consider her in the anti-medium setup

Well, the "best" anti-medium setup

[frank pulsar]

shes still great on med

afaik the gap between her and the newer stuff isnt big on med

[hot bobcat]

if i get multiple duplicates of the same german ships, does it stack up the iron blood fleet points or does it not?

[patent pivot]

there is a reason that she was never even considered for testing on med comps

[frank pulsar]

point is, shes not bad
if they dont have vanny or soy or wtvr then sushi is going to work better than whatever else you could use

[steady beacon]

Wait, what
Soyuz's barrage is literally med-focused

[patent pivot]

biz+alsace + soy/vanguard is simply far better

if you dont have biz then yeah musashi works

[frank pulsar]

thats not the point
point is that they might not have the ships required

and sushi is still far better than the other options

[steady beacon]

Well yes, that's fair

[patent pivot]

putting her in the "pick 3 from X" list makes her seem equivalent which it is not

[frank pulsar]

they wouldnt ask if they could use sushi otherwise

[dusk maple]

there's no gap, all end game bosses die against them equally well

[hot bobcat]

I need help trying to do roon's battle xp requirement to build her but i ened the right iron blood vanguard ships

[remote yarrow]

Are you in W12 yet?

[hot bobcat]

No, barely breaking into w9

In fact i barely have dock space

[remote yarrow]

Well

1. get to W12 before grinding Research ship's CDC
2. buy more, you should have some gems from beating campaign stages

[hot bobcat]

All my gems been shoveling to dock space

[remote yarrow]

Don't you start with 150 or am I missing something? Cuz that's only about 600 gems put into dock space and you get 250 from each World/Campaign stage, if you 3* all maps ofc

Cuz if you did all that + getting 3rd dorm slot + 2nd floor you should still have about 1100 gems if I'm not mistaken

[hot bobcat]

so far i got 186

but i belive all of it has gone to docks

if im not mistaken. just i dont do the 3 star things for the campaign

[remote yarrow]

Then you should if you are struggling with dock space

[sharp socket]

you get 3000 gems total for 3* every campaign stage up to 12-4

then memento is like 750 or something, anni event gave like 400 iirc, EN anni sometime in august will supposedly give 700 gems also

i am convinced that you can get to w15 without more than 250 dockspace so it shouldnt be much of a problem, unless you like collection

[abstract latch]

Helo, are there a tierlist for like gear n stuff?

Also, does emden just suck or am i doing something wrong? istg this thing dies in 2 shots

[remote yarrow]

No, but there's a guide over at #bot-spam /equip , read sam's

[abstract latch]

Okei

[remote yarrow]

And no, Emden is a pretty decent ship, you are maybe doing something wrong

[abstract latch]

Its probably my gear then

[remote yarrow]

But it also depends on which content you are using her on, gear, limit break, position in fleet, etc

[abstract latch]

Ok, thank u

[blissful hamlet]

any of the new pr gun good or are they all mid?

[remote yarrow]

Aren't there evaluations in the datamine?

[forest palm]

it's just the La-9, and VIT-2

[remote yarrow]

But those are planes

[forest palm]

[blissful hamlet]

didn't know the evaluation has been updated

they all mid

[forest palm]

like I said it's really just La-9, and VIT-2

[blissful hamlet]

the new IJN gun seems good for musashi but the reload is kinda cringe for a fast gun

[forest palm]

I'm moot on the Proto Twin 410, basically not seeing a lot of use for it over the standard Triple 410

granted there may be some use for it in the future

[blissful hamlet]

it become a 20s gun on musashi

man if only musashi don't have cringe reload

[steady beacon]

Anti-heavy four-strike in META without Autoloader... on Musashi

About as narrowly focused as a practical matter as Kear gun
Although at least Kear gun has funny use in other circumstances if you're creative enough

[blissful hamlet]

yeah but you lost a shell of damage on each salvo

[sharp socket]

how much better is twin 457 vs champy gun

[steady beacon]

... Serenity, please go and calculate it lol

[forest palm]

amount of Barrels aren't everything

[steady beacon]

Well, you use the former for (late campaign) mob fights, and the latter for anti-medium/heavy boss fights well-synced to standard debuff timers
Unless you're me and a member of the Georgia gun cult and use the Georgia gun for boss fights
But that's another story altogether

[blissful hamlet]

are you guys real

[sweet delta]

are you real

[patent pivot]

georgia gun musashi my beloved

[remote yarrow]

Am I real?

[forest palm]

by this logic we should be using the fuckin...Quad 356

[steady beacon]

Serenity is, like the solution to x^2 = -1, not real after all

[blissful hamlet]

wait let me calc

[sharp socket]

doesnt mob fleet use light gun? or does that change for like w15

[steady beacon]

World like
12+
You will run into more medium and heavy enemies

[forest palm]

you'll learn you can brute force a lot of fights with AP

[sharp socket]

oh ic

[blissful hamlet]

@steady beacon explain this

:essexTinFoil:

[steady beacon]

Did you account for coefficient?

Lol, double teamed

[sharp socket]

should i bother making a third champy gun if i have soyuz gun already or just make super bofors

[blissful hamlet]

wait lemme check again

[steady beacon]

Also, Serenity, are you kidding me?
Izumo gun is base 154 per shell

[sweet delta]

how about tenrai

what did you expect from serenity

[steady beacon]

Yeah, fair question

[sharp socket]

i have 1 tenrai and 15 prints, 49/50 in protocore shop

[remote yarrow]

What's coefficient btw

[stark quiver]

then buy the rest

[sweet delta]

/wiki damage calc

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations

[sharp socket]

with my intensive protocore acquirement plan ill be able to get 2nd tenrai easily

[steady beacon]

Just another multiplier in the damage calculation

[blissful hamlet]

@steady beacon explain this

:ranchSexGun:

[sharp socket]

its just a timegate now as i wait for the catchups and coining

[sweet delta]

3rd champ gun isn't useful

[stark quiver]

youre gonna do catchups and convert prints?

[steady beacon]

... Give me a few minutes...

[sharp socket]

i am indeed doing that right now

after i get fdg to d30 ill do her catchup

currently halfway thru roon catchup

[blissful hamlet]

does the damage aux would make the daisen gun really better than musashi as opposed with the autoloader and izumo gun

[patent pivot]

you do lose a lot of stat by dropping a shell

[blissful hamlet]

it's the only explanation I can see as to why daisen gun would be better in a meta fight with 4 salvo

[sharp socket]

i may not be insane enough to do azuma and her catchup too because i dont think its necessary

[stark quiver]

did u do catchups for pr4 and 5?>

[sharp socket]

ill do catchup for 5 later

i believe i just need ply and brest from pr5

but ill need the protocore stuff to finish w14, then i can chill and/or quit the game depending on what i intend to do

[steady beacon]

By the magic of Yahoo
Happy now, @blissful hamlet ?

[patent pivot]

ALTool V3.1 :shinanoPog:

[plain saffron]

I love how it have average while only having 1 row

[steady beacon]

Too lazy to calculate the barrage when we're only caring about gun damage

[blissful hamlet]

:ranchSexHodo:

[patent pivot]

honestly should remove the average dmg, it is never useful

[blissful hamlet]

time to +13 my daisen gun then

[plain saffron]

Already having daisen gun :susge:

Wtf

[steady beacon]

Imagine +13ing the Daisen gun before there even is an enemy to use it against

[blissful hamlet]

with 2 gaming table vanguard and musashi can still sync even with musashi using daisen gun

yeah everyone will need the timing aux to sync with vanguard and helena

[steady beacon]

Next step, serenity is going to try to convince the PvPers to use Daisen gun Musashi in PvP

[blissful hamlet]

daisen gun still have cringe reload to be used on pvp

[dusk maple]

that's without helena? add 3 salvo musashi gun to the comparison then

[blissful hamlet]

it's practically a 20s gun

[steady beacon]

Honestly, since I have the calc there, I should

Y'all need Autoloader to 3-salvo Yamato gun on META right?
Never used the damn thing myself

[dusk maple]

no autoloader, shell+table. tbh the extra +20 FP from it also affects her barrage.

[patent pivot]

didnt even post the dmg input file, shame

[steady beacon]

Alrighty-o

[steady beacon]

Apparently not even necessary
4-salvo vs. 4-salvo vs. 3-salvo

[plain saffron]

eDps calc?

[steady beacon]

For completeness' sake @blissful hamlet
Why I said "for heavy"

[slow fox]

eDPS mentioned

[steady beacon]

Mebot only wakes when eHP is mentioned

[patent pivot]

gotta make a dmg sheet and call myself YouTPG

[blissful hamlet]

this vs medium?

yamato gun op

[rapid grail]

1

[steady beacon]

The reason why it isn't really used is inability to sync tbh

[south sequoia]

Yes

[steady beacon]

You lose a ton of multipliers by shooting at a very inconvenient time

Maybe one day when we have three Yamato guns

[wary timber]

Is this a good Anshan build? Followed the tierlist mostly for this

[sweet delta]

depends on the enemy

[rapid grail]

+FP AA, you can keep auxes for general content

gun is fine for this day and age

[steady beacon]

+12 missile
How do y'all afford these luxuries

Oh wait, it's probably the fault of the like dozen PvP-only auxes I have at +13

[wary timber]

The reason I ran out of plates is cuz I was working on ships like these

[rapid grail]

did you get the improved version of that missile from a recent raid event

[wary timber]

I only came back during the Alsace event

[rapid grail]

Ah, Before Soyuz and Alsace's events

by all means, it's fine to complete it to +13 enhance. If you want to use it in the first place

[half basalt]

Is vanguard worth the pull

[atomic abyss]

Extremely worth

[steady beacon]

She is worth every cube

[half basalt]

Ok bet ill try it

[steady beacon]

(If you can get her for free, though, that'd be even better, of course)

[atomic abyss]

Hopefully you'll get her without spending cubes tho

[half basalt]

Failed alsace but my luck is gonna come back strong, wait u guys are saying to use tickets first then do the cubes?

[remote yarrow]

Yes, every UR rerun throughout the event duration you get 44 free pulls

[atomic abyss]

Yes use the tickets first

[wary timber]

Always use tickets before cubes ...

[half basalt]

44???

[atomic abyss]

44 since rerun yes

[half basalt]

Never thought it was that high, yall some lifesavers out here fr