gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

faces are still okay but basically minimizing cubing

[cursive saffron]

Is there any torp that shoots vertically not in arc aside from 533mm quin torp

[warm flax]

How's Indomitable and Jervis? Worth getting?

[icy mountain]

the upgraded torp of 533 non magnetic in gear lab

[cursive saffron]

Alr thanks

[polar lion]

Indomie goat but just powercrept by new kyat in the neighborhood

[whole crypt]

actually grant not that great over face, except 4h I guess

[polar lion]

Wait scratch that

I mixed up Nun as indomie

[whole crypt]

Indomitable still second best support

Implacable still more reliable for stop

[cursive saffron]

Wait no i was talkin abt that torp, was looking for better attack sequence than that

[whole crypt]

we don't have any good candidates for NP slow now with CV fleet

[polar lion]

Soyuz cross fleet can't work?

[whole crypt]

only once

[polar lion]

Oh yea

[steady beacon]

We'll all just become like suchi and down the boss in one airstrike

[undone plover]

There is the mk35 torp as well
I think that one also shoots consecutively

[polar lion]

Guess it's 1 shot airstrikes Arbiter shenanigans cooking time again

[undone plover]

Pilica correct me if I am wrong

[whole crypt]

I've stopped caring about arb anyway

[steady beacon]

Ye that one goes in straight line also
Plus mild homing

[cursive saffron]

Wot torp wuzzat

[steady beacon]

/wiki Mark 35

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/533mm_Mark_35_Torpedo_Mount_(Quad_Consecutive_Launch)

[cursive saffron]

Mild homing works ig thanks

[whole crypt]

I could spend 10 minutes trying to remember the right setup for the month or 4 minutes to 2-shot it

[steady beacon]

You don't memorise configs for all twelve months?

[cobalt rapids]

presets

[inland shoal]

And I'm saying this still sounds somewhat lucky to me
It's not like you spend a lot of time cubing anyway and I don't think I've ever gotten more than 3 of a gear within a year (Maybe Plygun, don't recall)

[whole crypt]

the only presets I have are for Mahans and common CVLs

[spring bolt]

iirc 20s shield for temprance this month, extra trouble when swapping gears

[cobalt rapids]

truly dedicated low coster

[steady beacon]

Ye it's 20s shield

[calm rose]

btw talking bout presets, presets doesnt sync between phone and emulator for some reason, its normal right?

[inland shoal]

Presets are only saved locally

[cobalt rapids]

yea i think its cached locally, makes multi devicing a pia

[whole crypt]

well I use shared gear code, presets are saved locally per ship

[inland shoal]

Makes clearing data and reinstalling a pita too

[undone plover]

Makes it better
U can save more than 3 presets this way

[cobalt rapids]

let me access my pc remotely while im on my phone to pull preset #5

[whole crypt]

I can do it for Mahans and CVLs because literally no one else uses the gear code thing with them

[inland shoal]

I don't think I saved 3 presets for any ship anyway

[cobalt rapids]

wdym no1 else uses the gear code

gear codes are universal not restricted by hull

[whole crypt]

the share menu

[cobalt rapids]

i can put my musashi gear code on any hull that can equip the same gear

[whole crypt]

no one else uses it for the commons

so the entire shared list is just my low cost setup

[cobalt rapids]

[steady beacon]

Wait, really
That I didn't know
I thought it was saved per ship

[whole crypt]

it might even be split per LB of the ship, I don't see the shared setup on my MLB copies

[undone plover]

How else do you rotate ships out of farming? Copy gear code

[cobalt rapids]

its simple conversion of equip codes in base 32 encoding which gets concatenated in long string separated by "/" which then gets base64 encoded into the final code

[steady beacon]

So basically it's why the Sirens can so easily hack stuff

[whole crypt]

actually I just saw it on my MLB copy too

[slow fox]

I just don't use gear when rotating ships smh

[whole crypt]

no one else uses sharing for the commons

[inland shoal]

Time to change that

[inner delta]

[wide marsh]

How good (bad) is Amazon to solo carry 2 low level DD for technology grind?

[inland shoal]

Bad

[south sequoia]

Very bad

[wide marsh]

15% more exp don't help her?

[south sequoia]

If you wanna "take advantage" of that exp bonus least you could do is bring good dds

[inland shoal]

No cuz you spend 100% exp on Amazon

[south sequoia]

^ chances are vanguard might go boom too

[whole crypt]

only if you're grinding HMS PR and will level the ships anyway

but low is kind of sus

also assuming Amazon not max

[wide marsh]

Ok. Lets say I want to level some low lvl vanguard ships. Should I grind some high lvl map with 1 new ship (in the middle), some medium lvl with 2 new ships and one ship that would solo carry anyway or go full newbie vanguard with something even more easy?

[whole crypt]

the former, because lower chapters have shit XP and no cost cap

[inland shoal]

I personally just exp book the ships until they're at a level where they can survive

[polar lion]

Hmm, I hab 109 UR gear prints collecting dust. Guess it's time I decide what to craft from em. So what gears shud I craft?

[whole crypt]

at that point anything, doubt you need anything specific

[inland shoal]

Not much point in crafting UR gear you don't need tbh

[signal leaf]

what northeren parliament ships inflict slow? reading admiral nakhimov's skills rn

[inland shoal]

Chkalov, Soyuz, Kronshtadt (Cross fleet), (Pamiat, Tashkent, Chappy)
Good luck activating that skill though

[whole crypt]

no good candidates now

[rapid grail]

backline: soyuz, fs5 chkalov
frontline: voroshilov, talliinn, tashkent (?)

[signal leaf]

i got soyuz

[inland shoal]

Does literally every NP ship have a slow skill?

[rapid grail]

the skill needs that NP ship in the same fleet Nakhimov is in. Idk if Soyuz crossfleet(??) or Kronshtadt crossfleet works

[inland shoal]

They work

[rapid grail]

Somehow I still doubt that statement tbh

[inland shoal]

But you need to have her airstrike happen as the enemy is slowed

[rapid grail]

but ig i'll find out when she is dev30 for me (or others)

[signal leaf]

holy shit daisen heals

[inland shoal]

The skill Nakhimov is just check for "hasbeenslowedbyNP" flag and the devs gave every NP slow an additional thing that adds the "hasbeenslowedbyNP" flag to the affected enemies

Kron and Soyuz cross fleet also add the "hasbeenslowedbyNP" flag

Can someone tell me what the order of the PR7 ships is in the Shipyard?

Someone that didn't start developing the cat?

[inland shoal]

Thx

Oh they're just sorted by ship id ig

[whole crypt]

she pretends she does

[sage nebula]

What is buff ID of Halford's armor break?

[whole crypt]

good luck getting Daisen's heal go off

[signal leaf]

sigma

i pray this plane has a kamikaze pilot

[whole crypt]

it doesn't and only 3 PvE stages have enemy AA

[cyan sierra]

Tallinn got a slow?

[inland shoal]

Not standard

[sage nebula]

Okie dokes, ty

[inland shoal]

I'll add it to wiki soon™

[whole crypt]

Tallinn is actually the closest candidate but she's not a meta tank

[hallow iron]

Would a tool box + whale plushie
be better than
tool box + fire suppressor for mogador

[whole crypt]

depends but probably yes

or just toolkit + any other hp aux

[inland shoal]

Could you also tell me the dev reqs for the cat?

Or I can get them from the datamine nvm

[shell willow]

300 Northern Parliament and 200 Sardegna Empire

if you didnt get it yet

[strange sphinx]

I don't have many NP

[whole crypt]

4 La9 prints so far but pretty sure this rate isn't going to hold up

[inland shoal]

#trophy-room

[paper mural]

Wanted to ask, is anyone else unable to tag Wichita META in their fleet in OpSi? I can't see her on my end when selecting a ship to replace with

[whole crypt]

try fiddling with filters or restart game, I had no issues using her in OS

[paper mural]

Tried the former, I turned all filters off and it didn't work. Haven't tried the latter yet though

[worldly pewter]

are u done from w14 yet ?

[zinc cloud]

Idk if I’m playing this game correctly. I just keep doing the missions until I 3* them but money is hard to come by lol

[undone plover]

were u linked the beginner guide?

[undone plover]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

• read these 2 links
• try and push to chapter 9 with one fleet
• there is a good event coming up in ~1 week
• save your cubes and only do 1 light build per day

[zinc cloud]

Well I’ve already not saved my cubes as I rolled till I got takao but I’m only on chapter 2. Already stuck though lol

[worldly pewter]

let's forget about the cubes incident and focus on the campaign

after knowing the basic sources of power
another thing u don't want to ignore is to try and not leave any gear slot empty

[zinc cloud]

Ok I’m trying to join a guild now but gotta wait to be approved

[worldly pewter]

joining a guild isn't a gate to make u use the shop

u have an access to the guild shop even without being in a guild

original right

[zinc cloud]

Oh do I just do the elite token rolls?

Till unicorn and Helena then the rare ones for the other 2

[plain saffron]

you can choose

[worldly pewter]

i think u get unicorn and portand first + whatever good in there then refresh

[undone plover]

pick unicorn from elite > pick penny from rare
refresh
pick helena > pick portland

[twin isle]

Will I lose tech points if I'll delete common and rare ships after I got them or not ?

[zinc cloud]

I don’t see penny

Oh Pennsylvania lol

Is there a faster way to get them from level one or do I just replay the low level missions

[undone plover]

if u have any xp books u can use a couple on each of them but also repeating the lower level missions is fine

if your starter has decent level u dont need to go all the way back to 1-1

[zinc cloud]

Who is my starter lol

Like Javelin?

[undone plover]

the ship u pick at the start of the game
could be laffey/z23/javelin

[zinc cloud]

Oh yea it’s Javelin

[strange sphinx]

British Commander

[inland shoal]

Finally got around to updating ABs (https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Armor_breaking), Burns (https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Burn) and Floods (https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Damage_Calculations#Flood_Damage) thx to @eternal moth asking, Halford's AB ID is also there now
Let me know if you're missing anything

[blissful hamlet]

how tanky is halford?

[strange sphinx]

So github already updated the ships for pr 7?

[blissful hamlet]

can someone send the mebot link

[hollow hornet]

Has there been any correlation found as to whether the G-412 or G-236 research missions are more likely to give your DR prints?

[undone plover]

which one?
if u mean ECTL i doubt it

[strange sphinx]

the tier list

is that it?

[whole crypt]

for grant it's either 4hr for gear print or 1.5hr for refresh, grants are poor options for ship prints in general

[wet prairie]

we've had the gearlab update for this year right?

[inland shoal]

Also updated my plane hp thing, looks like Sendai's plane has a bit more than 200 hp which makes it the squishiest plane of all ships in the game, but still not that frail, most usual planes are in the range of 400~800 (Flapjack 900) hp

[blissful hamlet]

can someone send me the ehp sheet link

[wet prairie]

or will we have another? wondering if i should make another mk7

[whole crypt]

one for CN anniv, next will either be end of this year or start of next year

[frank pulsar]

go to nagami.moe and click on the ehp link

[hollow hornet]

I thought it was best to get the low time grants for maximum ship BPs

[undone plover]

yeah ECTL is the tier list
tbh they have their own discord you can check but they will probably prelim tier them until they can test at dev30 after a few months

[wet prairie]

so save my uni prints ok

[whole crypt]

you'll finish ships long before you finish gear and you want more copies of the rainbow gear

[inland shoal]

Face researches are the best for ship BPs

[whole crypt]

assuming no face researches and not cubing then 1.5hr grant for refresh if you prioritize ship

[blissful hamlet]

is it not updated with the latest PR? cuz I can't find it

[hollow hornet]

I just have 4 total 1.5hr grants for faceless ship BP, and a 4 hour medium gear only dev

All are gold only but no refresh available

[inland shoal]

Idk, he did calc them already though, but all I know is Napoli having some absurd numbers

[frank pulsar]

idk, prob not

[blissful hamlet]

I need to know how tanky is halford

[frank pulsar]

iirc he calced it but hasnt added it to the sheet

[inland shoal]

I doubt you need to know that now anyway

[whole crypt]

if you're not prioritizing gear at all then 1.5hr G for the appropriate season I guess
if you will actually do gear and that's a 4hr rigging analysis I'd go for it

[blissful hamlet]

I need to know if I have been misinformed or not

[undone plover]

this is what I found for halford
not sure if it was updated after #gameplay-help message

napoli was definitely re-calced

[whole crypt]

I don't expect Halford to be tanky at all

[blissful hamlet]

misinformed just as I thought

[whole crypt]

did someone claim she is?

[blissful hamlet]

someone told me she is

[hollow hornet]

I was trying to prioritize the ships, but if you were both saying that gear will be better to target in the case of faceless print research, then I guess I’ll do that. Thanks

[tame jungle]

Then someone was wrong

[whole crypt]

some people don't care as much for obtaining more copies of gear and just want to be done with the ships, up to you really
if you do gear then 4hr rigging of the right season is a good choice

[south sequoia]

Napoli was recalced some hours after with a 6 sec average uptime which led to a 189%
However im not really sure about the other 2

[whole crypt]

I vaguely remember something about a 15% dmgred if AA gun on Halford but nothing that really stands out to be a tank

[hollow hornet]

Gotcha. Thanks for the advice

[whole crypt]

let me check datamine again...

if plane: every odd airstrike 40%EVARate smoke for 5s/every even airstrike 4% heal and clear normal burn
if not plane: 15% TRP/AA 12%dmgred 15s barrage

[inland wharf]

it says one of my ships im trying to manage is in the middle of the special ops. How do i find out where she is and remove her?

[jaunty vault]

check commission

[crisp estuary]

[inland wharf]

ah that was it

[jaunty vault]

[winter dagger]

hey quick question, why does it recommend greatsword augment on krondshtat which give trp when she doesnt have torps?

[whole crypt]

plane launch time is probably not going to be great so smoke uptime and heal is going to be cope
I'd imagine "tank mode" will be with AA gun but her base HP/EVA is only "decent for a DD" level so I don't think the 12% dmgred sends her much higher

[jaunty vault]

cause it also gives FP and the other augment for CA/CBs is useless

[winter dagger]

so better to have +fp and waste trp stat than to have hit and aa?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[winter dagger]

ty ty ❤️

[whole crypt]

slash may actually help as well

[jaunty vault]

lets just say greatsword is better

[whole crypt]

generally yeh

[winter dagger]

does that apply to all CA/CB's?

[jaunty vault]

generally yeh

[whole crypt]

bottom line you won't go wrong with greatsword even in cases where lance may be better

[south sequoia]

Is there even any situation where you'd use lance

I can see it with unzen and I guess ibuki

[whole crypt]

some people cope with lance HIT on CBs for accuracy

[south sequoia]

Oh

[whole crypt]

the AA is definitely useless as is the skill

[plain saffron]

https://azurlane.nagami.moe/ehp

@slow fox you good?

[south sequoia]

I think hes tired

[plain saffron]

i thought he's mebot 😔

[undone plover]

Q about AA. if anyone could confirm
just wondering if for DMG each individual ship damage is calculated seperately and then all added together. but rld is averaged

using an example for illustration, in a NJ + sandy fleet
if we have sextuple on sandy and STAAG on NJ we have sth like 450 dmg sandy 100 dmg NJ with 1s rld
if we have sextuple on NJ and STAAG on sandy we wont have same dmg numbers right? more like 300 dmg sandy and 150 NJ but similar rld at 1 sec?

[south sequoia]

He just needs some metime

[inland shoal]

Yes, that's how it works

As wiki says too...

[undone plover]

i understand better with examples

[inland shoal]

Even the rld will be different though due to the different rld stats of the ships

[undone plover]

but less pronounced than the other modifiers right?

[willow oasis]

Are auto loaders and air radars useful? Im trying to clear out my stuff lol

[inland shoal]

Well yes cuz the disparity is much smaller and averaging reduces it even more

[inland shoal]

In very rare occurrences they can

[willow oasis]

So like keep like 2-3 purple ones around?

[undone plover]

just put them on ships u are not using
no need to scrap em if unsure

[sour pier]

does alsace debuff stack with itself ?

[willow oasis]

Ah ok i have like 9 sitting around of each lol

[inland shoal]

Skills never stack with themselves unless stated otherwise

[willow oasis]

What about gyroscopes?

[winter dagger]

can someone please explain why it recommends the 550mm triple torp for anchorage opposed to quad/quint mag torp for everyone else?
it seems like the only skill that comes into play reduces her first 2 torp loads, but she doesn't have anything that procs on x number of torps.
so why the weak torp recommendation?

[undone plover]

faster torp > faster smoke > more survivabilty

[finite crag]

When this ship fires her Torpedoes: 45% (75%) chance to fire an improved special barrage

When this ship fires her Torpedoes: deploys a smokescreen and a barrier. Smokescreen lasts 5s and increases Evasion Rate by 20% (40%) for all your ships in it (does not stack with other smokescreen skills).

[undone plover]

it is more this part

[winter dagger]

wait nvm... i was looking at the wrong ships wiki -.-

im an idiot ignore me

[glossy forum]

i currently have harbin and am about to complete saint louis, what pr ship do i go for next?

[inland shoal]

I don't think they have any use

[blazing shale]

Mostly for pvp

[inland shoal]

Uhh Anchorage? FdG? Ägir?

[undone plover]

FdG > PR4 > 1 PR 3 ship for rookie missions > any ship u are close to Dev30 with BP

[willow oasis]

Any one of PR3? And all of PR4 recommended to get then?

[undone plover]

cheshire usually most useful (good AA for later chapters)
odin and champagne are good tech at 120
drake is a protocore farm
pick your poison

[glossy forum]

my current bps if that helps

[strange sphinx]

so what's the difference between +13 T pose fire control over +10 Rainbow Table?

[undone plover]

it is not immediately obvious who is deved but guessing u dont have FdG or anchor
do FdG > anchorage > AvP

[tulip zenith]

how do i clear out my cattery

[willow oasis]

Well looks like i did well in choosing my faves i just got cheshire and drake (literally just finished today) i have st louis, FDG and neptune. So i guess anchorage next?

[shell willow]

you can enhance cats with other cats

[tulip zenith]

idk which ones are good and bad tho

[undone plover]

yeah try and dev all of PR4
also set research focus on PR/DR4 if u have not already

[frank pulsar]

36 fp and 45 hit vs 40 fp, 53 hit and -2 spread

[plain saffron]

are EN still bugged and didn't get latest version?

[undone plover]

i did not got any update as far as I am aware

[strange sphinx]

hmmm the pr 7 gears?

[plain saffron]

no the bug where there's a new version but nobody will get it unless doing asset repair

resulting in the new cv having old unfix skill

[inland shoal]

You will see that EN isn't "bugged" anymore by the version number going past 8.1.178

[plain saffron]

number too small

[silk helm]

is harbin considered a good AA ship or nah

[jaunty vault]

not an AA carry

thats what most people define a good AA ship

harbin does have above average AA

[plain saffron]

when we scrap equip do we get any plate?

[urban grail]

scratch that, they do

[plain saffron]

huh is it random

[steady beacon]

Uh
Iirc you get 1 (rarity of scrapped equip - 1) plate of the weapon type that was scrapped

[keen sable]

not grey...

[steady beacon]

So like... scrapping an elite gun gets you 1 blue gun plate

[plain saffron]

so uhh only grey is random?

[urban grail]

grey equip dont give one

[steady beacon]

Grey gets you no plates

[plain saffron]

ouh you scrapped more than 1?

[steady beacon]

(Sorry, should have added that exception)

[urban grail]

blue gives u white plates, purple gives blue plates

[plain saffron]

i'm trying to undertand why there's 1 torp 1 gun, i thought it should be fixed in equip_data_template

[urban grail]

oh thats from 1 cannon right beside it

[plain saffron]

alright make sense now

[keen sable]

Gold good + edelweiss

[willow oasis]

Is the anti torp bulge used at all?

[keen sable]

bulgy ships good

[willow oasis]

Where is it useful? Lol

[keen sable]

15, ops, daily raid anywhere there real torps

Not 11-4 was it?

[iron meteor]

Help just came back to the game what fleet can i make or what ships should i focus on

[willow oasis]

Yeah i guess i dont know when ive really needed it for anything specific to be honest.

[dawn crest]

Can I use this for chapter 13? I still can switch Perseus to unicorn 125, Alsace to FdG 120, if it's really necessary.

[forest palm]

that 2nd fleet isn't going to work

3BB is just a death sentence

[keen sable]

Can be different reasons is used. Is almost never terrible compared to a toolkit. Best reason on 15 might be to prevent instakills. You have enough healers but not if you get instakilled. Ops doesn't like toolkits although there are a lot more hp auxes these days and daily torp raid is self explanatory

[dawn crest]

even for a boss fleet?

[whole crypt]

you can 3 BB if you have very good AA

[forest palm]

may not meet ACV as well

[dawn crest]

York > Enty?

[whole crypt]

parity is workable, but again, you need very good AA

that or you can try to manual game and main Taihou with torps

[willow oasis]

Ah ok yeah that helps put some more things in perspective still working my way through knowing how useful each aux is and where, but why does ops not like tool kits?

[dawn crest]

Could swapping York for enterprise solve this?

[keen sable]

Help Mosh

[forest palm]

as long as Entperise isn't using something dumb like rockets

[dawn crest]

F6F Hellcat is ok?

[viscid swift]

Is this for farming w13, because I'm noticing a lot of the ships are underleveled

[dawn crest]

clear

[forest palm]

you also don't need a Hedgehog

[viscid swift]

Clearing, with level 100 shios?

[dawn crest]

the idea is to level up them while cleaning

[viscid swift]

Yeah don't, it's a terrible idea

[dawn crest]

level up them at 12-4, before clearing cap 13 then?

[whole crypt]

pushing progression in late game doesn't mix with leveling

[dawn crest]

i got it, thanks

[elfin hollow]

What you use for that fleet bulding thingy

[forest palm]

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[keen sable]

bosses can have anti heal skills

[elfin hollow]

This is the general Fleet I use for boss, opsi, and meta. Are there any big things I need to change? (Leveling Anchorage atm)

[forest palm]

just @ Unique since he's saying yes

any way you're gonna need to put an HSFCR on Soyuz

[elfin hollow]

Yeah working on getting a third for her now

Bps are a pain for me

[forest palm]

then replace the other HSFCRs with Black Shells, and replace the SGR on Helena with a Toolkit

[elfin hollow]

Thanks

[forest palm]

also as long as you understand you'll need to switch main guns based on armor type as well

[elfin hollow]

Mhm!

[meager gyro]

should i use avp for 11-3?

[silk helm]

depends

[keen sable]

you should turn on auto instead

[silk helm]

~~why u hatin on manual players ~~

[small fern]

i just got shinano from the ur pity is she good

[eager mulch]

good when 6 stars, bad when not 6 stars

[small fern]

i have 8k of those things you use to buy ur bulins

[eager mulch]

its as shrimple as that

[frank pulsar]

but like, her stop is useless in campaign
in fact id argue it bad since you get lesser hits with your parallel torp

[meager gyro]

when is next event?

[frank pulsar]

#game-news message

[hushed dawn]

Are there any new one shotter comps that have come out against Michita?

[small fern]

should i use them for nano im like earlygame but bridging to mid game

[sweet merlin]

can i use agir without dev 30?

[keen sable]

~~99% of manual players are actually worse than just auto ~~

[meager gyro]

youll get hunted by the whole server if you do

[small fern]

i manual the clan boss

[frank pulsar]

imho it fine, others may have different opinion

[whole crypt]

preferably 30 but she has most of her defenses by 25

[small fern]

i also have nj and a kron i have 1 extra star in from another copy i got

[iron meteor]

How do units go beyond lvl 100 again i forgot

[hushed dawn]

Cognitive Chips.

[silk helm]

does harbin have a fate sim?

[keen sable]

you need 16k

[frank pulsar]

both of them lower prio than nano

[elfin hollow]

Is there a way to only get one dr ship's projects in research academy...?

[silk helm]

wiki lied to me...

[viscid swift]

you need to awaken them

[elfin hollow]

How @keen sable Teach me your ways please

[sweet merlin]

is fdg a mobber or bosser preferably

[keen sable]

finish all the other ships

[elfin hollow]

Bet

[iron meteor]

Ok sorry last one where to i awoke them

[keen sable]

tap xp bar

[iron meteor]

Ah

Wow that was hidden

[silk helm]

what to research after anch, harbin, avp, agir?

[keen sable]

that's how it works and is the tactic used by leaders. when you finish ships they stop appearing. the last dr goes fast.

assuming you have haku but maybe need to go back anyway if not enough tech

[silk helm]

no tech for mp or haku

[meager gyro]

are any of them good?

[keen sable]

they won't help you kill sendai...

[meager gyro]

wtf is sendai

[keen sable]

oh you know just the final boss of the chapter you can't clear

[meager gyro]

how am i supposed to know that

[iron meteor]

Noob question but its fine to still use a fleet even if they are 0/5 already right?

[half basalt]

Is FDG or NJ priority for the iowa gun, currently using UvH gun on NJ and Iris 380 on FDG

[keen sable]

what is uvh gun

[half basalt]

twin 406

[keen sable]

you mean fdg gun...

[half basalt]

same difference, lets call it "iron blood bb gun"

but if it is fdg gun does that mean i should use iowa on NJ?

[keen sable]

iris 380 is terrible. if this is all you have then mk7 fdg and fdg gun on nj

[steady beacon]

Wait, which Iris 380

[half basalt]

Bet, ill switch fdg to iowa asap and move nj to mob fleet on fdg gun

[jaunty vault]

how many are there

[forest palm]

it would technically be an H Class BB Gun

[viscid swift]

at least 2

[keen sable]

haha sort by light got me. there's 2. flandre

[steady beacon]

At least two
There's the Richelieu gun
But also the Flan gun

[half basalt]

triple, mle 1935

[viscid swift]

okay, that's the good one

[steady beacon]

[half basalt]

yeah the richelieu gun is garbage

[forest palm]

most Quad Guns are garbage, most

[half basalt]

which is good?

[forest palm]

152

[jaunty vault]

plygun lel

[keen sable]

what you need to ask is what are you trying to kill

[half basalt]

oh yeah good point

btw is drake or hinden gun better

in the end it doesnt matter bc hinden can equip both at the same time but idk which to prioritize

[keen sable]

^

[jaunty vault]

drake gun is jack of all, master of none

well it was master of all for quite a long time

[forest palm]

234 slightly performs better on Heavy, Proto 203 SKC does better on Medium, then there's the 203/55 for HE, and that's kind of it

[keen sable]

i would go hindy and cope on pierce and aoa if you don't know what you want to kill but how do they compete for resources?

[sweet merlin]

how to get sardenga empire ships?

is marco polo sardenga?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[half basalt]

is kearsarge worth it

[jaunty vault]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/fleet_technology#rn

[steady beacon]

Very much so
Although whether she should be prioritised may depend on what you have

[half basalt]

Ive got hindenburg and fdg and some oher random ones, im currently working on hakuryuu but i was considering switching over to kearsarge as development would be much faster for me

[steady beacon]

Have you got Yorktown II?

[half basalt]

yeah

[keen sable]

focus a season...

that isn't less than 4...

[half basalt]

I should focus pr4

bc i need agir anyways

[steady beacon]

I would consider it then
But in saying that, Hakuryuu is also an excellent ship
Particularly if you're focusing PR4

[eternal basalt]

Next week(?) Shimakaze

[sweet merlin]

isnt it vanguard

[half basalt]

i have all done on haku except for data 2 but its gonna be tough as my only sakura backline is shina

[half basalt]

not shimakaze lol its vanguard im pretty sure

[keen sable]

cn invented pasta not jp...

[sweet merlin]

also she is sakura

[eternal basalt]

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/953503355582283780 Perma-Shimakaze, Vangurd rerun

[half basalt]

yeah

Should i try to pick up vanguard, i still dont have her and apparently shes good

[steady beacon]

Your only IJN backline is Shinano?!?

[eager mulch]

so another surge of people rolling perma pool?

[half basalt]

maybe... (only one worth using as shes a dumping ground for my rainbow planes rn)

[sweet merlin]

damn, should have saved my 400 points to mlb her

[strange sphinx]

[half basalt]

vanguard looks good but theres rumors about yamato in the fall so idk

[eternal basalt]

That's based on every 2 year a Yamato... lets see if it sttays true

[strange sphinx]

Whar if Enty UR?

[keen sable]

you can spread rumors on #off-topic

[sweet merlin]

you want enty meta or enty II>

[half basalt]

lets call them "educated conspiracies"

[keen sable]

none of this is particularly educated

[eternal basalt]

Enty is NOT educated

[strange sphinx]

[half basalt]

Ik this isnt on topic but yamato is educated, theres a rumor that yamato will be released on jp 7th ani bc 7 is lucky in japan or something

[mint skiff]

Is getting 5 luck to my whole fleet from my cat good or is it just meh?

[strange sphinx]

hmmm question, can a lvl 90 can survive in 12-4 safe mode with great build, in your experience?

[finite crag]

source: it came to me in a dream

[keen sable]

A L1 survives with great build

[mint skiff]

I use my 125 for 12-4 so idk

[half basalt]

Source "Trust me bro"

[mint skiff]

Want me to slap in a level 90 with some gear and see what happens?

[strange sphinx]

nah it's fine,

I'm just leveling my ships in 12-4

[mint skiff]

I think if u use just 1 level 90 you should be good

[wind hazel]

is there anything that can affect minimum cog chips drop from 13-1? like going under 20

[mint skiff]

Probably should have a repair kit on it at least to make sure it survives

[eager mulch]

you can run full fleets of 90s and be fine without toolkits

granted you’re using decent ships and good gear

[atomic lagoon]

My Nagato is lvl 80 and can survive 12-4 on safe without issue, she has 2 unleveled toolboxes

[silk sphinx]

Tech trash with level 1 skills won’t cut it

[eager mulch]

granted you’re using decent ships

[eternal basalt]

Main is easier than vanguard

[silk sphinx]

But I favor the approach where I keep a portion of my ships under leveled. I think having a spread, like some 110 or so and the others lv80.., I move them around to have a spread

[keen sable]

i keep L91 unicorns just for that purpose

[lament bay]

im using yk2 enterprise musashi as boss main fleet in w14-3 but it doesnt feel like enterprise is doing good, is there someone else that does better? like independence i thought or nj/uvh?

[frank pulsar]

indep good

[lament bay]

ok ill try with her

[tawdry sluice]

Use Unicorn with the fleet or at least Perseus cross fleet

[hollow gust]

Shes no enterprise tho

[viscid swift]

Or you use shit ships but fantastic gear

[lament bay]

she had basically half the dmg of yk2/musashi which were tied (bc boss is a destroyer and musashi was on AP gun)

[strange sphinx]

musashi ap gun? Destroyer?

[hollow gust]

Then you were gearing her wrong , also theres things like timing to worry about . Especially when using york2 with enty , they have a problem of stacking damage

[lament bay]

yeah 14-3 boss is shigure a DD

[strange sphinx]

use HE gun for light

[thin haven]

Who's better Shinano or New Jersey?

[lament bay]

well i didnt know boss armor, and still enterprise is doing half the dmg of the other 2

[hollow gust]

They are two different classes but shinano would last you longer

[strange sphinx]

what's your gear

[royal cloud]

How to play different accounts in one device without logging out?

[strange sphinx]

[hollow gust]

Switch your server

[keen sable]

you may have done it to yourself. check your timings that yorkii pushes enty ahead

[keen sable]

change server

[thin haven]

[strange sphinx]

Bismark is here, run

[hollow gust]

[frank pulsar]

why would you want enty to be pushed by yorkii? doesnt that just ruin your dmg uptime

[lament bay]

yeah enty was slower than her on launch

[silk helm]

Which do I use on harbin

[viscid swift]

just show your gear at this point,
I don't particularly see any issues though if the fleet is clearing just fine

[hollow gust]

Right is significantly better

[lament bay]

i was using this

[frank pulsar]

improved mag torp, the quint on left is poverty gear

[keen sable]

don't you have unzen?

[silk helm]

Hmm do I take advice from a new player

[meager gyro]

what do i buy here?

[frank pulsar]

hes at least 3 years old player

[silk helm]

I started during alsace.... Was there an unzen rerun since then?

[hollow gust]

My account is 2x older then yours

[frank pulsar]

4 years old

[keen sable]

yeah harbin probably your best torper until maybe smkz

[frank pulsar]

2x2 is 2

[lament bay]

wait you want to make enterprise faster? so they dont airstrike at the same time; i guess if yk2 launches first and kills half the mobs then enterprise dmg will fall as it hits less enemies

[wild tinsel]

Hi! im a new player, so should i try to get all stars right away in the campaign or should i try to push everything asap till i get to chap 9?

[viscid swift]

yes, that is why you want to desync your main fleet ships for later campaign stages

[viscid swift]

high
try and 3 star if you can but if you can't don't sweat over it too much, reaching W9 takes first priority
you might also want to give that a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[wild tinsel]

oh ok tysm!

[lament bay]

ok so i can put skyrider on yk2 to make her slower

also another issue im facing is unicorn is basically taking all the dmg on mob fleet while the other are unscathed

[viscid swift]

Skyraider is worse than the Tenrai for W14

[balmy wharf]

Are there any ships besides Pompeo Magno that have the a simiar 30% boost to all stats given by aux gear?

[viscid swift]

so domething like that

Yorktown's TB should be the one from PR5, blame Rhenex

[lament bay]

even if the boss is light?

[strange sphinx]

wh
wait what's the new plane?

[viscid swift]

the actual bosses are not the most significant threat in W14, it's everything that becomes before and surrounds them

[eager mulch]

all dds get either +30% aux stats, tighter torp spread, or reduced AoA requirement when they hit their last limit break

[hollow gust]

W14 boss is basically a extended mob foght , that's why non staggering damage sucks

[viscid swift]

new torepdo bomber from PR7

[strange sphinx]

converging or parallel?

[balmy wharf]

So is Pompeo the only one that has it explicitly written on the gear like this then? None of my other ship have this +30% written on the gear

[half basalt]

Is FDG or NJ better for bossing

[strange sphinx]

ryusei crept or no?

[viscid swift]

no, you just don't have any other DDs with it or haven't looked to closely at it then

[eager mulch]

shultz for example

[south sequoia]

NJ better for single target bosses
FDG better for mobs

[meager gyro]

what should i buy here?

[half basalt]

tf is that genshin lookin description

[eager mulch]

read it

[inner delta]

no?

[half basalt]

bet ty

[south sequoia]

Not at all

[half basalt]

Lol it has +30% i havent seen that before

[south sequoia]

That +30% is from a dd upgrade

[eager mulch]

new conv tb has more damage but is slower than ryuusei

[south sequoia]

It doesnt come with the gear

If it did... whew boy

[south sequoia]

Hmm, is it considered a side grade then with intent for timing?

[eager mulch]

what else would it be

[south sequoia]

a plane?

[inner delta]

sidegrade

[balmy wharf]

None of my other DDs have this, guess I don’t have any of them other than Pompeo fully Limit Broken then.

Never noticed that before

[eager mulch]

.

[jaunty vault]

so we're getting a UR archive and a UR rerun at the same time

[viscid swift]

yep

[eager mulch]

so we’re getting people who are gonna pull perma pool

[jaunty vault]

yep

[clever sun]

What? So there will be a UR ship in archive?

[jaunty vault]

yes

check game news

[inner delta]

it's not going in the archive, it's going in the perma banner

[clever sun]

Oh

[inner delta]

you can't do 60 run to get a UR

[shell willow]

that would be funny

[jaunty vault]

i am funny

[strange sphinx]

[clever sun]

Cool

[meager gyro]

what should i buy here?

[small fern]

Should I try to invest for Shinano or do I keep my enterprise as a noob

[wispy pendant]

Bulins for your ur limit breaking, retrofit items for your ddg. Ur gear prints for basically all the ur gear there, and then prints for seasonal gear if you need them

[soft raft]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Guide.jpeg

[wispy pendant]

Eventually invest in shinano, but get to world 12 first and follow the newbie guide

[novel condor]

nuh uh

[exotic wren]

Wait, was NJ and Shina's addition to WA announced at the same time or nah?

[jaunty vault]

they were archived at the same time, yes

[reef flume]

Shimakaze will likely come to perma pulls in few months

[small fern]

I'm only at world 6 and already level 68 or something

[small fern]

Is she better than Shinano

[soft raft]

nope she's coming next week
#game-news message

[reef flume]

They are different ships

[reef flume]

In the pulls? Nah

[soft raft]

kinda hard to directly compare cuz different hulltype but I certainly am using Shinano alot more than Shima

[small fern]

Yeah but I literally just spent my entire pity on nano

[wispy pendant]

You have one job, to follow the newbie guide and do not deviate till w12, come back to other ships later, you’ll progress faster this way

[eternal moth]

She's a destroyer, not a main fleet, but she's certainly not used as often

[exotic wren]

so UvH won't be archived together with Shima huh btw, are there any other NP, slow except Soy, Chkalov, Pamiat, Voro and Tash?

[small fern]

I didn't read so I got the big follower

[reef flume]

Shinano is great, she is still one of the best CVs in the whole game

[wispy pendant]

Not sure what this means, but seems like you need to focus more on w12 and less on building ships you can’t use yet

[small fern]

My issue is moving my ships around is lazy

[reef flume]

The thing is:
You can't compare a vanguard ship to a main fleet ship

[wispy pendant]

Also unsure what this means

[small fern]

I just pull , the ships I build are all from the newbie guide . If a ships higher level it's just because I farm with them

[small fern]

Just means I'm lazy 💀

[reef flume]

Save your cubes

[wispy pendant]

Lazy is follow a guide

[small fern]

Mine are already getting to first Ascension 💀

[small fern]

I usually just gamble on events I usually do the 1 light a day thingy for the quest

[reef flume]

Good, that's exactly what to do

[small fern]

is there a new Ur event coming

[soft raft]

in Sept

[small fern]

Is any event good to gamble or does it specifically have to be Ur

[wispy pendant]

There is a rerun for vangaurd coming next week

[reef flume]

Atm only Vanguard rerun. For new UR we have to wait sep

[small fern]

That's neat , I'll just roll for collectors sake

[wispy pendant]

She’s good, not just for “collection”

[small fern]

Even better

if I need her I don't have to wait for another rerun

[eternal moth]

Not a new event, but there is a UR event coming. HMS Vanguard is a main-fleet BB buffer

[wispy pendant]

We have to remember reruns are still URs that are “new” to accounts that don’t have them yet.

[forest palm]

forgot how useless Shimakaze event was

[small fern]

I thought she was an SSR though

[eternal moth]

Yeah, which is why I wanted to clarify exactly what it was

[wispy pendant]

You’re not really paying attention are you?

[small fern]

I haven't read the game news yet

Jesus lemme just read it so I don't sound stupid ,brb

[soft raft]

i mean tbf the news posts dont state rarity
you'd have to go on the wiki or ask here to know

[small fern]

It just says rerun of X ship

[viscid swift]

yes, CN confirmed that she will be added to both the heavy and special pools as well as the UR exchange

[wispy pendant]

It would be good to familiarize yourself with the names and general order of past URs so you can anticipate their reruns

[eternal moth]

Shimakaze won't be added to light? Sad trombone

[wispy pendant]

Someone has a post that says the order of reruns

[viscid swift]

well, they already confirmed as much when Shinano and NJ were added permanently

[eternal moth]

That assumes they rerun or add to WA in order, which they aren't doing in this case

[wispy pendant]

Just to know the URs that haven’t rerun yet and the order they came out is useful

[eternal moth]

Fair

[zinc turret]

So next week vanguard rerun and after vanguard event end shima will avaible for perma banner ?

[eternal moth]

No, they're adding them in the same update

[small fern]

Yay I can get more urs

[keen sable]

If you go to Twitter it may have more information. If not then you just need the know that pledge of the radiant court means vanguard and upon the shimmering sea means shimakaze

[wispy pendant]

The pattern is we get around four new UR events per year and four UR reruns per year. Basically your cubes are not safe.

[small fern]

Vanguard Is a royal navy ship ?

I NGL thought it was an eagle union but alright

[soft raft]

Huh how

[wispy pendant]

Yes, she is an HMS UR battle ship that is good at buffing the damage of other battle ships.

[wispy pendant]

Curious to understand your thought process and conclusion making that arrives at false opinions.

[keen sable]

Vanguard is the last and best bb the British ever built #history

[inner delta]

someone that doesn't play during said event and don't know ship at all wouldn't know

[small fern]

Gut instinct

[wispy pendant]

How’s that working?

[dawn crest]

is not vanguard?

[small fern]

Don't know

[soft raft]

Vanguard rerun and Shima WA are both next week

[glacial heath]

flatchest next update

[soft raft]

#al-general is that way

[small fern]

Will there be another ship you can get with the event currency

[wispy pendant]

Yes

[small fern]

Do you know who it is

[keen sable]

What currency? Ur exchange points?

[soft raft]

The shop/map drop SR ship
in this case Jervis

[eager mulch]

Jervis

[wispy pendant]

Jervis is map drop/shop ship, and she’s very tanky dd.

[small fern]

Jervis alright

[dawn crest]

I wonder if with 150 cubes I can at least guarantee the vanguard

[small fern]

A tanky destroyer doesn't seem to go together but you know why not

[soft raft]

Jervis is pretty tanky for a DD but ultimately she doesnt really see much use because regular tanks are still tankier than her

[wispy pendant]

There is also a UR aux for battle ships you’ll want to buy.

[reef flume]

At next maintenance? Cuz I readed only her event will be added to war archives

[small fern]

75 pulls , not with the pity but if you're lucky probably

[soft raft]

You need 400 cubes to guarentee pity

[small fern]

I try to get the aux if I could

[keen sable]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Pledge_of_the_Radiant_Court

[wispy pendant]

W14 mob was carried for me by Jervis, because more asw is good.

[eager mulch]

he’s not hitting pity by the end of the event unless he pulls out the 💳

[wispy pendant]

Less because of rerun tickets

[dawn crest]

no matter how many cubes I farm, it always stays below 200.

[small fern]

If you get the aux should you grind for the ship or get the tickets

[wispy pendant]

Isn’t it 40 build tickets?

[eager mulch]

44

[small fern]

You get like 6 per week , 3-4 a day

[wispy pendant]

Yes both

[dawn crest]

yeah, bu my problem is probably because of not appearing on commissions and using a lot it in PR

[soft raft]

the fuck are you doing to constantly be below 200? pulling on perma banners? You're guarenteed to get at least 168 cubes per month

[keen sable]

You should do and get everything. If you are time constrained then table above all

[soft raft]

and using a lot it in PR
Oh I see the problem there

[sweet delta]

That's a you problem

[dawn crest]

1 pull per day in light

[wispy pendant]

If you’re grinding the event, best to grind progress now. Stop worrying about shinano and work on your fleet to get as far as possible

[soft raft]

Dont use cubes in research unless you have like at least 800-1k cubes in store

[wispy pendant]

Do not use on PR.

[small fern]

it's like 11 pm I'm considering just grinding out the story

[wispy pendant]

If you’re not caught up on URs and reruns, I just wouldn’t use cubes on research at all

[small fern]

I'm at world 6 and I kind of want to push my team

[half basalt]

is guam or agir a better boss fleet tank

[keen sable]

Using on pr. Nice

[sweet delta]

Depends

[soft raft]

depends on the content
On paper Agir is the tankiest ship but in some content, her armor type is her own worst enemy

[half basalt]

bc of torps?

[dawn crest]

the last use is 10 for haku mission

[wispy pendant]

Is napoli going to be best tank?

[wispy pendant]

Bad choice fr

[half basalt]

Yes but her damage is in the negatives

[viscid swift]

yes
and an event being archived includes having the ships being added to the permanent pools

[half basalt]

what napoli's damage sucks

[soft raft]

She's Heavy armor so we'll see how she holds up in late campaign

[wispy pendant]

She heals the enemies?

[half basalt]

no its just really poor damage

[soft raft]

proof?

[hollow gust]

Simulations

[half basalt]

her all out assault takes forever to proc, the evasion skill is nice and the smoke gives more secondary damage but it doesn't make up for the lack of meaningful damage

plus shes a CA

[zinc turret]

Portland pro max plus ?

[eager mulch]

bro is not cooking

[soft raft]

Oh we're now being racist against hulltypes huh

[half basalt]

I am fr cooking lol

[eager mulch]

shit take

[soft raft]

you are not cooking
you burnt the steak

[hollow gust]

I wonder which vanguard class has two of the highest damage dps

[half basalt]

u guys are saying napoli > agir?

[zinc turret]

Dd i guess

[south sequoia]

I mean unless you ACTUALLY have a dev 30 napoli right now on hand with optimal gears on her your claim doesnt hold really any weight since one of the cl guns equipped on her in the simulations is pretty unremarkable

[soft raft]

no one even said that
We're just saying that she's not complete dogshit

[inner delta]

no, it's CA hinden and unzen

[sweet delta]

Napoli sure will do more personal DMG than agir

[eager mulch]

he started a house fire trying to light the stove

[sweet delta]

On light armor

[cyan sierra]

Calling her damage dogshit when we haven't seen her performance is stupid. Especially when the pierce changes the values a lot.

[south sequoia]

And a ships hull genuinely doesn't matter in this scenario

[cyan sierra]

That pierce skill alone makes her potential damage decent if not good.

[half basalt]

shes gonna be pretty good on medium bc of sap

But that raises the question, is she gonna be better than agir?

[sweet delta]

But medium is agirs best

[south sequoia]

And again, it is only a simulation
No one for a good couple of months can determine napolis real damage

[hollow gust]

2 months

[soft raft]

did you ignore the fact that they gave her a shitty secondary gun in the simulation

[elfin hollow]

Gph 🔮 dps

[half basalt]

Napoli actually does look pretty good now that i look at it

[eager mulch]

it’s the simulation dps this time instead of gph paper dps

[south sequoia]

I mean you can "determine" her real dps
But lets not beat around the bush here we are talking practical on field tests with actual good gear put on her to run tests

[half basalt]

does she get a CL secondary perchance or just a ghost gun

[eager mulch]

both

[glacial heath]

does the all "..ignore enemy shields" matter for napoli?

[half basalt]

ok she could be pretty good because she can take a CA main gun

[elfin hollow]

You dont even know how her kit works and you're commenting on her damage

[south sequoia]

2 mgm secondary + 1 ghost cl gun so a psuedo 3 mgm cl

[finite crag]

next level bait

[calm rose]

What is boss on about

[inner delta]

@finite crag there's no need to call people that

[finite crag]

cool buddy

[half basalt]

Coping that i dont wanna level kron to be able to finish napoli

[soft raft]

the fuck

what does that have to do with anything? Bro just use her

[half basalt]

I dont wanna grind out napoli with a northern parliament ship

[sweet delta]

New player who didn't even read Napoli stats and skills tries to comment on her damage

[reef flume]

I checked NJ and Shina being added and yes you're right

[half basalt]

hey ive played for a while

[calm rose]

Then dont? Use the pasta if you dont wanna use np ships?

[soft raft]

Only thing that wasnt added at the same time as NJ WA was her gun which came later

So wouldnt be surprised if it's the same story with Shima torps

[half basalt]

I started like 2-3 years ago idk

[south sequoia]

Finish pr4 - 6 first before jumping onto 7

Unless you do for some reason have 4 - 6 completed and for some reason don't have enough italian ships to grind out napoli.

[forest palm]

4 > 7 ~ 5 > 6

[hollow gust]

2-3 years

[paper mural]

Has the latest update added any fate sims to the game?

[soft raft]

Nope, expect the PR6 ones to be in Aug and the next DR one possibly sometime in Jan

[half basalt]

Ok im done spreading hot takes now

[south sequoia]

Well thats a new take
7 gear and ships is enough to put it on the same priority as 5?

[half basalt]

Should I spend the 10 (20? idk)cubes to get agir now or should i save em for vanguard

[paper mural]

I'll keep that in mind. AFAIK, DR fate sims tend to coincide with anniversaries

[soft raft]

you can easily make back those cubes (It's 10 for DRs, 5 for PRs) before vanguard comes
And vanguard rerun will have free build tickets

[south sequoia]

Mm I can see why 7 > 6, I'm just a bit surprised its right next to prioritize right after 4

[half basalt]

oh ok nice, is agir worth it?

[south sequoia]

Very

[half basalt]

ok bet ty guys

napoli can wait till after haku and kearsarge probably

[eager mulch]

realistically for a new player I don’t really expect them to have the tech to jump from 4 to 7

[half basalt]

i finished hinden already

[forest palm]

I just find PR6 to have the least value, though I'm not sure if I value 7 as equally as 5

[half basalt]

whagts wrong wiht 6?

[south sequoia]

Nothing

[half basalt]

the DRs are good

[south sequoia]

6 just doesnt provide as much as an impact

[zinc turret]

Been play for 2 month and still stuck at pr1

[forest palm]

The ships are the least impactful, and the gear is essentially filler

[half basalt]

Are we saying hindenburg is bad?

[south sequoia]

No???

[half basalt]

oh ok i was worried

[south sequoia]

Hindenburg and Kearsarge just don't really bring much to the table compared to the other seasons

They're powerful

But not super game changing mega powerful

[eager mulch]

not super game changing mega powerful is just sugarcoating bad

[half basalt]

fair enough, hindenburg is kind of a plymouth with less support value

[soft raft]

the PR6 ships on paper are pretty good but

• Kear and Hindenburg dont bring much to the table outside of OpSi
• Flandre continues the "PR BB in a UR/DR BB world curse"
• Felix is tanky DD but there are better tanks than her

Shimanto is the only one that really made a impact

[half basalt]

Ok good for me as i only use hinden in opsi lol

[wispy pendant]

PR 6 pretty skippable it seems.

[half basalt]

i guess i have to agree

[paper mural]

Shimanto is BiS for W15 AFAIK

[eager mulch]

shimanto cannot main tank W15

[half basalt]

w15 is the one where u need aa right

[atomic abyss]

the difference is that with shimanto, you can eventually get her with PR6 catch up once it comes out anyways

[soft raft]

W13 you need AA
W15 you need alot more AA

[half basalt]

go like guam main tank for the aa, sandy to buff it, and shimanto idk

[forest palm]

I'm pretty sure Sandy can do Shimanto's job better w/ Augment

[half basalt]

that might have been another hot take i just gave

[wide marsh]

What is usefull limit for OpSi tuning? 210/210/160?

[eager mulch]

203/203/156

[soft raft]

Eh replace Sandy with laffey II (Sandy would go to boss) and that's essentially one of the top vanguard comps for W15 mob

[half basalt]

oh ok fair enough i forgot about laffey II

[sweet delta]

I recommend not giving takes in #gameplay-help if you don't have the knowledge and ability to make good takes

[half basalt]

I can make good takes about some stuff but not w15 i was just saying stuff so I could get a better idea of what comps to use

soo uh now that i finished agir, should I continue going for haku or switch to like napoli or nakhimov or something

[wide marsh]

Is there a reason to clear mirror seas mobfleets except for tiny bit of exp and coins?

[soft raft]

Haku

[sweet delta]

good takes like Napoli dmg

[half basalt]

That was admittedly a bad take

[sweet delta]

No, not all of them drop exp and coins even. Assuming you mean hidden or obscured opsi zones

[half basalt]

Wait is nakhimov supposed to go with soyuz?

[atomic abyss]

she can but not likely

[soft raft]

She just has to be with another Northern Parliment ship that provides a slow for her freeze to proc
Which is either Soyuz, Chkalov (at FS5), or Kron's crossfleet

As for which would be the most optimal (If it's even optimal to force Nakhimov's freeze in the first place), stay tuned for actual testing

[eager mulch]

where would you use the freeze

[wispy pendant]

What’s our prediction of coining DR4 or PR5 or fate sims for PR6?

[atomic abyss]

"not anytime soon"

[wispy pendant]

Also can’t wait for fate sim for ply and brest

[atomic abyss]

"eventually"

[viscid swift]

PR6 PR fate sims should come with the EN Anni in august
the next round of coining shouldn't be until late January

[atomic abyss]

look... agir doesn't even have her FS yet

the DR FS do not follow a fixed pattern

[wispy pendant]

Hopefully soon oomfie

[atomic abyss]

drake got her FS before fdg, mind you

[wispy pendant]

Wasn’t fdg gate sim broken at first? I forgot exactly what the issue was but people weren’t sure it made her better at first. Does anyone remember what the issue was?

[urban grail]

Best gun for laffey II

[wispy pendant]

Mog

[sweet delta]

Twin 138.6

[urban grail]

Alt gun

[sweet delta]

Twin 100 kai

[urban grail]

Ok ty

[tulip dawn]

Iirc her barrage just flew off to narnia or something, targeting bug

[wispy pendant]

Haha, how did they fix it, just a patch? I don’t remember

[soft raft]

prob just a hotfix like usual

[trim sparrow]

Should i leave Colorado flag or move hornet to flag for NH skill?

[sweet delta]

Depends on the enemy

Looks like easy farming so it doesn't matter

[small fern]

I was doing PvP and my enemies vanguard had a mecha pop up , what's that

I do PvP for quests smh skuk

[trim sparrow]

Yea just farming for hal in 12-4

[sweet delta]

Chise augment with Rikka and yume

[small fern]

Guys , how do you optimise dorms

[sweet delta]

dorm slots, dorm exp, or dorm comfort?

[keen sable]

ships you're using. forget passive xp unless you are micromanaging sleep times

[heavy zealot]

Is foch meta any good? Its either her or my new jersey doing most dmg

Hmm?

[sweet delta]

foch meta is bad

[crimson glacier]

foch meta is solid shit tier

[heavy zealot]

Oh, newbie mistake on focusing on her i guess

[sweet delta]

and don't try to compare damage unless your ships are maxed and you know how to compare damage

[heavy zealot]

Lemme send my ships? Make me a team or sumthin please-

[sacred parrot]

How much i be spending daily?

[keen sable]

interesting. how come you have all that stuff and no bulins

[heavy zealot]

I just hide bullins

[keen sable]

2+

[cobalt rapids]

6-10 usually but go lower if ur coin income doesnt hold up

[frank pulsar]

as much as youre able to afford to, ppl usually buy 10 afaik

[heavy zealot]

So uhhhh, what team ;-;;

[keen sable]

how many ur bulins do you have/or how much specialized core?

might as well say how many gold bulins you have also

[heavy zealot]

Not sure about specialized core, but maybe 12+ ? 15+ bullins for the purple tier

[viscid swift]

fleet help

[slow fox]

[sharp onyx]

What's the best lineup for an all French faction fleet? I'm willing to build anyone I have

[sweet delta]

depends on the enemy

[sharp onyx]

[eternal basalt]

Guess they want to farm french PR

[balmy wharf]

Do the get 2.4mil XP using sardenga main fleet mission still count XP even if the ships I’m using are max level, or level 70 but not limit broken?
If I use 3 sardegna ships I assume that gives me more XP than just one ship?

[atomic abyss]

yes to both

[eternal basalt]

Yes and yes. Also yes.

[balmy wharf]

That means I won’t have to waste any SR bulins on these ships

[atomic abyss]

well consider it this way
it'll be much slower

[sweet delta]

that means you'll be farming a low chapter inefficeint map?

[atomic abyss]

since non mlb backliners can't really be brought to high level (aka efficient) maps

[whole crypt]

1. you're wasting XP on those ships
2. 0LB ships are shit, the grind will be painful

[balmy wharf]

Is it faster to run two ships + unicorn/ulreich/NJ or something similar on map 12, or run three ships on map 10?

[whole crypt]

3 ships on 12

[eternal basalt]

"1) you're wasting XP on those ships"
every endgame player and main ships

[atomic abyss]

3 ships on 12 since you can just bring a stronger frontline

[whole crypt]

but if you really want to compare, 2 ships on 12 does indeed gain more XP than 3 on 10

[vagrant spoke]

White shell or the British shell for upcoming vanguard

[sweet delta]

do you own a yellow shell?

[whole crypt]

or at least about the same

[vagrant spoke]

Nope

[sweet delta]

then white shell because yellow shell shouldn't be bought

[vagrant spoke]

Does the event come with one?

[whole crypt]

no

[sweet delta]

the yellow shell comes only from core data

[vagrant spoke]

I’m not sure what to spend my core data on anymore tbh since I got like four pairs of white and black shells

[whole crypt]

Independence, DDG gear, sub gear, chips/arrays

beacons/maintenance manjuu if you need them

[eternal basalt]

I buy the DD gun and CL gun every month....

[zinc turret]

Is it worth to get ddg gear if i dont have ddg ship ?

[balmy wharf]

If I want to run a full HMS frontline for XP grinding for a PR ship, which three of these would be best?

[atomic abyss]

sirius nubian aurora

[pale mason]

would centaur go up to tier 0 with her unique augment?

[whole crypt]

pretty sure I don't need any more spare chapayev guns and tashkent guns

[stark quiver]

Around how many cubes would I want to have to start doing H researches

[atomic abyss]

what aug did centy get even

[whole crypt]

a rubbish one

[atomic abyss]

[viscid swift]

10% more damage if she's run with 2 other RN ships

[atomic abyss]

what is this, 2020?

[eternal basalt]

I got like 12 tashkent and 12 baguette and always running out

[atomic abyss]

i suppose you could go impla ark centaur but really?

[pale mason]

oh is that the only thing added with the augment? i thought it also had the increase main fleet AVI by 15% and FP by 10%

[atomic abyss]

she always had that

[sweet delta]

very nice, kimo

[pale mason]

oh xd

[whole crypt]

I just take it off ships I don't use anymore so

[eager mulch]

🧀?

[atomic abyss]

more like kimoi cheese

[eager mulch]

[sweet delta]

you forgot
Increases this ship's Fighter and Torpedo Bomber efficiency by 10%.
Reload 6 + 10 → 15 + 10

[viscid swift]

in my defense, I was half asleep when I read the daamine

[balmy wharf]

Which of these would be best to use for the main fleet if I want the new catgirl DR?

[cobalt rapids]

the ones u can afford to mlb

[balmy wharf]

The three purple ones then, I have zero UR or SR Bulins

[zinc turret]

What for ddg gear if i dont have ddg ship ?

[whole crypt]

Volga isn't that far off and she's a good ship, if you can get hose 2 bulins somehow then I'd throw her into the grind as soon as possible

[eager mulch]

you don’t use ddg if you don’t have ddg gear

[eternal basalt]

3 missiles... then again they have released a better ddg missile (event only)

[whole crypt]

you only need 2 because if you don't have the missile from Tai Yuan's event you probably don't have her retrofit item either

[sweet delta]

you only need 1 because when are you going to use 2 DDGs at once?

[whole crypt]

but muh DDG/DDG lowcosting

[elfin hollow]

i have a question for PR farming

will exp gained with a not-fully-limit broken ship count for the grind?

[eternal basalt]

yes

[zinc turret]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[elfin hollow]

thanks

[whole crypt]

we do recommend you LB if possible because it's just easier and you won't be getting into wasting XP if capped

[elfin hollow]

i know, i was just wondering if it's counting the exp

now i regret not limit breaking taihou u

[silk helm]

can u show ur fleet for low costing? do u use it for like pre oil cap event stages?

[whole crypt]

depends

like for A maps 0LB common CVL/Mahan can do it but C will usually take an MLB on at least 1 side

then clearing D will also be a different set, depending on slot reqs

[elfin hollow]

iirc the next event has sea hornet blueprints, right?

[eternal basalt]

Just use the oilcap

[zinc turret]

Butt 1 ddg + 1 mainship cheaper than oil cap

[eternal basalt]

On D2 yes

[whole crypt]

I'll use oilcap where it's due, but nowadays I usually do most of the lifting in B1

[silk sphinx]

I usually just first clear A/B claim daily bonuses with low cost, but farm otherwise D3. I usually get a drop ship on average and morale for low
Cost is an issue

[whole crypt]

which is why I cycle Cassin and Downes with them in the dorm

[silk sphinx]

Still takes over twice the time to farm but yeah B1 farm is extremely efficient

Plus these days I have less time to farm tbh, often cap out oil

[lime lichen]

can i get a recommended 3rd ijn vanguard for farming ibuki?

[silk sphinx]

Kazagumo

[lime lichen]

aight ty

[eager mulch]

does he have 4 gold bulins to spare though

[lime lichen]

had 10\

[forest palm]

as long as you can do so safely, no harm

[stark quiver]

With the Shima archive comming around, will we see her torps in any shops or lab

[eager mulch]

when NJ got archived did we see her gun immediately? No

[forest palm]

UR Quad 610 is useless either way

[shell willow]

which one is her torp even?

[eager mulch]

they’re quints

[forest palm]

still useless

[eager mulch]

just like me fr

[shell willow]

ah those

[abstract latch]

What does affinity actually do?

[eternal basalt]

Give bonus to all stats (bar speed)

[abstract latch]

Bar speed?

[tame jungle]

all stats except for speed

[sweet delta]

and luck and stuff

[tame jungle]

also hp iirc (i didn't remember correctly)

[abstract latch]

Oh

Ok, i thought its useless

[forest palm]

a 1.06x modifier for 100 affection, and then a 1.12x modifier for 200 affection, it's small, and mostly a min/max, that's why you just oath for favorites

[abstract latch]

What does the luck stat do then?

[fluid compass]

Are the specialized cores in the medal shop a good investment? I generally just get them every month to give me a boost for my next UR bulin

Cool

[forest palm]

funny shit there's a whole chart in game that explains every stat

[abstract latch]

Really? Wher to find?

[eternal basalt]

Click the stats

[thin haven]

Getting iron blood tech is a pain ...

I want FDG

[eager mulch]

blogging goes in #al-general

[forest palm]

Tap on any of the stats, and you'll get a pop-up

[abstract latch]

Ohh ok, thank u

[vast apex]

These are my characters so far. Are any of them any good?

Wha

[atomic abyss]

well

clearly you're new to the game

[vast apex]

Thanks Paya

[forest palm]

for one don't use Foch, or Hobby

[vast apex]

Indeed

[eager mulch]

it’s new player tips time

[forest palm]

2 use this
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

so these guides will be useful

[vast apex]

Oh

I’ll look through it

[atomic abyss]

turtle i posted 2 links

[eager mulch]

still 🐢 though

[noble tulip]

If I had to get rid of one of these 3, which one would it be

[slender heart]

I'd ditch antenna or lime

[signal pollen]

Would Helena meta(main tank) + Helena make a good boss fleet? The meta has some good tanking abilities and debuff sync right?

[little tree]

How do u get her

[atomic abyss]

no, helena meta would not make a good enough tank for any relevant content

[atomic abyss]

collab from like 2019 or 2020
no rerun

[strange sphinx]

and probably will not ever happen

[forest palm]

pretty sure it was either early 2019, or late 2018

[atomic abyss]

not late 2018