#gameplay-help
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it is cursed and terrible, but once upon a time, my laptop ran outa battery, and i used the "school laptop"
.01
0.01 per how long?
close enough
Per heart lmao
Ye it's some silly small number
Most effective and consistent way remains taking into battle
Secretary 90 -> 100 is
I forget how many though. I do that for subs at least
Ye that's fair
90-100 is very fast you can do that in a year 
time to get another lv1 oath ig
@keen sable affinity blessings
are u playing on packet loss line 
this game can desync easily and create funny stuff 
you misunderstand. not that slow
He may have meant dorm hearts
i'm pretty sure nn meant blessing boost
i did mean Secretary slot 90 to 100, it’s slower than the normal rate
same, just Nagato
.01 every 6 minutes
or 2.4 per day
well it's much faster when the event is here, but at longest you wait for a year for the event to be back 
I notice I have this from a long time ago and I wonder if I should finish this over August
if no implac august
No what?
implacable
I guess I finish her today then. Thanks
Is it true that boat xp caps at 3mil after level 125?
yea
dorm hearts wouldn't work for us because that would give xp. if xp then i would just use the ship. the goal is a 1/200 amagi 
There is no way to dismantle those right ? Only equip to some characters to make space or buy extension?
use them as fodder to upgrade others
Is there like some secret strategy to getting more UR gear parts from research? 
Nakhimov is a support CV, right? Wut about her dmg in theory? 
Spam the plates research project, quite efficient because it's very fast project. Fo that in the day and the big one over night
Hmmm, aight.
0.01 to 0.03 per 6 min
She can be both, but you should ideally treat her root more as a bonus rather than her main feature
where would you even use her stop
what were the original azur lane stages
Best ship to bang out first for new season?
1-6 on cn/ and jp?
doesnt matter, you have no blueprints
The one who you like thr most
I mean for development focus.
whoever you like the most
How's the admiral looking?
cat
check pins
ignore faces. i have too much protocore anyway
Can BB gun destroy planes?
skill issue
Sanshikidan one?
also kirishima can
gif in gph??impossible
Ahhh... Good ole ™.
you should delete that gif tbh before a mod gets ya
I thought there were 2
?

too late
gg
If I’m under chapter 9 should I have a mob fleet and a boss fleet or is one fleet good for now?
world 10 you'd probably appreciate it, but world 12, and onward you definitely would want a 2nd fleet 
Ok Thanks
under 9 i simply would not have a second fleet
should i mlb guam or wait for vanguard
what other UR do you have
Is Yorktown 2 the best CV for light and medium armor?
york ii is up there yes
unzen, zwei, shinano, alsace, ., soyuz, laffey, shima, nj, , , uvh, , kronschast and mogador
well are they mlb?
not uvh kron shima or mogador
completed w15 yet?
I would honestly wait for Vanguard
do you plan on tackling W15 any time soon? if so then Guam next
no
I forgor, both Volga and Aquila can solo heal right?
like be the only healer in the fleet? no they cant do the heavy lifting Unicorn can
people love to farm without Unicorn so sure. even a single target healer will significantly smooth out rng issues with weak fleets.
they're both secondary healers 
Hmm, guess I have to build a 3rd unikai then, dankee
just use Shouhou, or some shit
Can shouhou, maybe ryouhou solo heal consistently tho?
in W12 yes
What are you trying to do?
slavedriving pushing vanguards to 120
@exotic wren
so youre gonna make a third uni
if you're looking for main healers you have Percy, Uni, Klaudia, Painleve, Ryuuhou, or Shouhou simple
Like cheeky said in w12 its nth. Its doable
for a collab event to rerun they have to renew the license thing right?
no one knows how collabs work
we just got wows collab
I mean...they can't rerun a collab because they don't own the IP
goodbye hololive
w13 fleets plz
Oh you were talking about Holo, yeah that's probably never gonna happen again
seeing the Neptunia collab comeback would be wild
it's been what 6 years since Neptunia ran
the older IP that AL has collab'd with will probably never see the light of day either way 
does anchorage need to be fate sim'ed to be good?
nope
yay I'm just gonna throw her into the deep dive opsi
does neptune need fs to be good
We didnt have any new collab this year right? 
irrelevant. crystal ball readers also said reruns would never happen yet here we are with 2 reruns.
no but you should
do you consider pr7 to be a new collab?
wows collab 
not so far
Hey folks.
Does the timer keep going if I switch my PR research and come back to it?
I.e
Ship1: Finished Combat Data Collection 1
Ship1: Engineering Research timer is counting down to 11:08
Switch to Ship2: Finish Combat Data Collection
Switch back to Ship1: what happens?
No, it pauses
Timer pauses when you switch
Thanks team 🙏
No bad ships in pr7?
The DD is gimmicky
Are we talking like Izumo level bad 
BB is not bad
is there a way to disassemble augment modules?
Nope
Use them as fodders
bruh
equip them or feed them to each other
But you can feed them to your more ppwerful augments
ah aight thanks
Btw what are yall prioritizing for research, face or riggings or coobs? 
I'm prioritising face
Would love to do coobs but U-37 drained 400 cubes from me
im a faceist
Atleast you got her 
out here taking 8hr daisens

what gun should shimanto use on w15
Shimanto gun (the triple 150 from pr6)
her special gun
I would love to do cube researches but RNG hasn't been giving them to me
I thought i was the only one, all im seeing is those 2:30 coin research
what does an SN rocket fighter mean?
The new pr7 UR fighter
northern parliament fighter with rockets
oh ok I Get that was just curious what SN meant haha
soviet navy
Soviet Navy
Soviet Navy
this?
that does look like the triple 150 from pr6 to me
aight thanks yall
shimanto shouldn't use shimanto gun unless you're really short on AA
should i stay on pr4 focus
how's your progress in 4
in terms of ships or gear?
because the only real reason to leave is if you're done with it, not because there's a new series
both
ok off to bed gn smo0tie 
gn turtle 
is Shimanto your only AA carry for that fleet
I'd rather save resources til you get enough bps
you can skip marco 
Btw you are supposed to coin the PRs and ignore their faces if possible
And only get the DR ones
oh 😭
for a series with coining preferably yes
coining discounted prints is better value than doing face for prints/coin
how many prints should i buy per day
10 to 15
at least 2
you can't use prints until the ship is developed 
3000 vs 8250 was it?
the first 10 costs you 3000, the next 5 cost much more even before discount is gone
i mean in general
that said if there's no reason to not take a PR face if there's no better selection, if you're looking to get the ship out of the way
anyone got any ideas for a good Northern Parliament team/ Sardegna empire?
haku is who i have the most bps for out of anyone 😭
i have san diego 
between Shimanto and Sandy there should be enough AA, give Shimanto a proper damage gun
any works
and, can guam be an AA carry?
Never enough aa lol, on auto fleet still struggle after 3cv triforce node
might want a bit more levels tho for w12
what if im trying to grind chapter 12?
Guam is one of the top AA carries now
she has really good AA but cant solo
Avora,Kuy,Alfredo, if w12, id run unicorn + secondary healer, cuz not enough levels
Guam is a bloody top carry, the only reason she wouldn't be enough alone is if you took 2 AA shitters with her to 15
and by that measure the only "carry" good enough is probably Sandy with aug
would albion be a good idea due to shield proc from uni?
Wait what is this for? Campaign or PR7 exp grind?
pr7
is it a good or bad idea to skip other pr ships in (1,2,3,4,5,6) and focus on Prio PR ship
most efficient way to do research is to finish each series one at a time
Skipping PR4 is a bad idea
(except 1-3)
why is that?
Because it's a good season
very good ships in pr4
oh well shoot
4/5 ships are commonly used in alot of content and comps
PR4 is going to be good to focus even after they take it off rotation, just because of generally good ships and gear
a already have Haku, Agir, and ancho
i did maybe 2 in pr4
Well you need to get AvP to Fs5 if you don't have an stopper yet
have as in dev 30 fate sim 5 or unlocked
VV, SS, Aquila for Nahk. SS, Aquila, Unicorn, Tallinn, Attilio, Chappy for Napoli.
when we say finish a series we mean finish a series
i have ark royal, implac to do that
FS where FS is due, d30 where d30 is due, and enough copies of gear from series
vv and ss????
Do you have your 2 Tenrais yet?
unlock lol
Bruh
nop not even 1 : D
yea you are not even close
venetto and soyuz I guess
oh ok
Vittorio Veneto and Sovetskaya Soyuz
Just unlocking the ship is literally -1 dock space if you don't Dev 30/Fs5
any advice on doing PR?
Not skipping seasons 
augh 
skipping some series are fine, but when you do a series you should do the whole thing before changing focus
But for research, atleast for PR4
DR Faces > Q > G > PR Faces
who should i go for after haku
what is some good recommendations for an Android emulator in both windows and linux?
/what should i do after pr4
LDplayer is a good choice for windows
I use LDPlayer9, idk shit about Linux tho 
just wondering, but would the new Prototype Bearcat be good for Holo Fubuki? or should she stick with the Tenrai still
and for vanguard?
good ships
ok
PR5 is a good idea, but by "after" that means all PR4 and Hakuryuu FS5 with Agir at d30, and 1 non-shop copy of Tenrai
I would go for Pola Nightmare and then any of the recent NP ships
if you're just talking about unlocking the ships just do whatever you want, the thing that takes time is reseraching for prints
wait is vanguard event admiralty control table?
ok thx
yes
allow me to introduce my roster for Napoli grind
at least you have a roster 
Alpha&Smoothie thanks I will look into LDPlayer for win10. seriously thinking of converting over to linux when 10 is sunset
you could have one too if you don't skip tech
ain't doin ASW, and EVA 
if you take capped ships you're wasting XP anyway
Why would you convert to an inferior OS 
literally
too much AI garbage. I can run 11 now but have to get a different CPU to do it.
this would imply I care about wasting XP 
you could just stick to window10 can u not?
I don't get the AI part? But you do you I guess
well in any case this isn't tech talk 
Best weapon for georgia?
I don't seriously care about wasting XP but I do want to reach 37k faction tech
I'll probably do ancillary tech when I have nothing left
it's just a completionist thing
there's nothing cool even before 37k, you're just leveling junk
when should i use the georgia gun?
mobbing
will +10 gold helldiver be better than purple +11?
no
It wont become a total upgrade until +13
Even then that wouldnt be worth
Waste of plates
not that you should make gold diver or enhance helldiver to 11
thanks
High campaign mobbing
Also bossing, but that's a whole other story
Is that a not max level filter? Looks like a feast compared to what I have
for now yes, but after Oct 2025 it will get the same treatment as Win7/XP. I can still run it but can't lookup stuff and all that. 11 will get the screen capture via a stealth update and break VM compatibility. just future proofing. either way this is not for this channel but thanks for the assist 
yeh not max, I haven't gotten around to all the shitters
understandable, you could go search up some emulators for linux, or go to #tech-support
I still have about 15 rows of ships to go, if not only vodka/pasta

trieste is fire
power
You mean 15 rows of ships waiting for chips?
15 rows of ships not 120+, 14 rows of them are different degrees of 100-120
though mostly in 100-105 range
you are doing well, I have about 40 rows of that 
@vale spindle 
vit2conv?
Ngl "timing never doesn't matter" gave me a mild stroke
what is vit2con
New pr7 tb
If the question is: "Is the (new) VIT-2 converging?", the answer is "yes"
V2C
and if that isnt enough, then V2 is it... no more, just less, if complaing again them will be just V
is it less damage than ryuusei
what if even V is too much, does it just turn into ?
poggies there's samvaluations!
Samvaluations ™️ ?
flame cat, but is it ruined by faction skill?

Probably?
kinda sucks cuz stucked into IJN CV Fleet, but, still can be usedn since Haky/Shin is a thing
if its workable id just slide it in haku nano comp cuz it doesnt seem to affect reload
the faction skill is not that bad if you're using with Shinano/Hakuryuu
nice
so basically now we have Vit2/Ryuusei/D-4 in slightly increasing order of speed and slight decreasing order of damage?
Suchi is talking about V2C beat Ryuusei only in Heavy, so its more situational in wut and the timmings ...
where do i get these quick finishers
wut, i did understood wrongly ?
by checking in your cattery daily
i reread and yeah, i understood wrongly, nice reading skill
The classic EN
but i'm BR
brEN of course
btw should i upgrade the cv talent
Where saiun 
Saiun isn't exactly slightly after D-4 on the scale, is it
Yeah but still used in same situation isn't it
I'm more thinking just swapping between those 3 for nudging timings
Saiun is still on the list if I'm looking for a larger drop
Ideally it will look something like
Flames/ACE/Officer Carrier(3)/Officer Mechanic(3)/IJN
welcome to the world of cat rerolling
is it possible to reroll ace
the base talents are fixed per cat
you only reroll to see if you chance into something else for level up
I spent over a year rerolling my soulful lime to finally get flame... only for the last talent slot to have no BB selection
did you end up rerolling that?
no, not worth the trouble, cat already has BB officer and FP, best would have been HIT in that last slot but now it's cruiser officer 2
(BB RLD on cat is basically useless)
wdym?
is lime better than oscar most of the time?
fixed
when you reset a cat it's just reset to factory condition, i.e. the talents you had when you got the cat
the talents you can pick every time you select a talent when "leveling up" is random to some extent
so if you reset that bisha you will always just get this back
Vit2 higher dmg and only slightly higher cd than ryusei or 87d, is there even a point for those 2 anymore
but when picking talents you can run into a different list of talents as you go up
someone hasn’t run the 6x ryuusei fleet yet
so this cat isnt really good, but its workable given i have haku/nano
Hmmmmmmmmm
I personally like Lime's skill better but from like a
Realistic POV, if you can even GET two good BB cats between Lime/Antenna/Oscar, that's already a massive win, so I wouldn't get stuck on their individual skills
it's not bad if you're using with Hakuryuu/Shinano, it just has no flexibility to be as good if not using IJN CVs
timing
the talents tend to add up much more than skills anyway
ill probably use it for now, since i dont have better cvs, like yk2 or kear(?)
technically yes but oscar has better initial talents it can roll so if you really want to use lime it has to roll gamer on its later rolls which is harder to do
most people use oscar cause oscar has the best initial talent options out of any hull type ssr cat period
Does anyone have the gear guide so I can look at what opsi gear I should craft
Devs busy sucking russian dick this season
possible starter talents differ by specific cats? i didnt know that 
that wasn't necessary, if you have nothing better to say you might as well just not say it and try the mods
I don’t think it stands for vovetsky voyuz
Vimproved Vydraulicrudder
So how good is naki slow
how good is arkkai slow
The slow is 60%, c.f. Ark Royal
Yes.
the best if you don't have avp or implacable
If i have both?

those 2 are still guaranteed stops
Nakhimov depends but I don't think anyone's come up with a good option to consistently offer NP slow for her skill in a meta boss situation
yes but its not documented that well
not to mention we haven't even gotten her in a usable and testable state
devs tested this time trust 
I suppose she wont be in bossing fleet ever based off first impression?
she has a good kit
I won't say ever, we just don't know yet
we can also get better ships that support her slow in the future
sounds like a problem for devs to sell a solution too
what's the best CV purple cat? like if you wanted to run one with bishamaru
eagle (avi + rld) or ark (avi + acc)
I hope not🤢
flame ace officer + whatever
personal preference on which you pick
Anyways im just going off jimmy's summary, it seems naki does what haku cant by being better against medium armour?
What
Jimmy video 
Perseus hater, but ill forgive him
Just wait 2 months for people to start getting her to dev 30
not like Hakuryuu ever had any real issue with medium, even less problem after FS
so i have this eagle with ace, is it worth rerolling or no, because of the helmsman talent
it's just that the IJN pair was plainly better for heavy while rockets did a better job for med
4x160 skyraider sounds pretty strong to me
how exactly do i read this?
like if i have 64 command and raise AVI by a moderate amount based on command, how much AVI am i getting? 0.512 AVI?
What did fs do for haku again specifically? I forgot, i just knew it made her stronger
after FS yeh
More damage
more damage and no IJN plane req on her AVI and ACC buff
64x0.8% = 0.512% more AVI yes
It's just a percentage stat increase
Think of it like your average skill increasing AVI by x%
25 lck too smh
oh it's % more AVI?
Yep
Are converging tbs the best kind of plane for bossing
Depends on the target
against heavy armour bosses that don't move or if you bring slow/stop support
Oh ya I forgot about armour type
and it's % of the base avi?
Thx
or after gear/tech?
0.5% is just really meh though
which is why talents matter significantly more than skills
yeah, won't that work out to like 2 ~ 4 AVI?
Ahh ok, didnt know the req was removed thx
ok got it thanks
Soyuz is very good against light right?
if you give her a Mk6 or Mk7 sure
Iv updated the game on Blue stacks, but after the update it will not open....just stays on the loading screen
It says update complete, loading game but its been that way for 30 mins now
bishamaru says this, does this mean only CV/CVLs in the backline, or "a" (as in only one) carrier remains among all, or only one ship and it's a carrier?
between soyuz, nj and sashi, whos best for light armor
Soyuz
try #technology or #tech-support
How about heavy armour
main fleet needs to be only 1 CV or CVL
exactly 1 CV/CVL? or 1 CV/CVL, and 0-2 other stuff?
solo main
thanks
Musashi still hits harder for heavy assuming you don't get timing issues
Is napoli AoA a mistake?😅
Explain?
What do you mean? Her AoA is correct, theres two kind of barrages
Takes forever to proc
She only has 1mgm. So it makes sense
She wont be spamming her AoA like hindenbruh/drake
her main is from secondaries
Huh
is CV cat RLD talent non-perfect? esdeath mentioned above and didn't include it but it's listed as the 4th best starter talent on this imgur i saved ( https://imgur.com/PtDzZTi) i forget the source
Theres two part to her AoA, one is from her CA gun, one is from the Special secondary gun
Napoli's main output is from her secondary guns, not the CA mount
70% eff dosent look that good
2 mounts and +100% when in her own smoke
Her Barrages also are anemic so it's negligible
increases to 170% for roughly 25-30% of her uptime
she also has an extra special secondary
How much extra damage does that translate to
napoli is basically just stack a bunch of mid together and that makes good
- best tank
Wait does Halford Barrage has a hidden Special Armor Break or it's the same FB Dmg increase worded in her skil
you may or may not see Plymouth/Hindenburg numbers but should still be good DPS, while being ridiculously tanky
both are worded like special armor breaks that stack with normal armor break
Basically she has no AoA😂?
it should proc like once every 30+s 
It's different from the FP increase on her skill?
I thought it was around there, then jimmy vid said 50+s with hindy gun?
If I read it right Halford's barrage gives 8% FP based Dmg increase plus armor break?
Sup guys, recommended gear for z47 and what position she wants in the fleet?
no, its just special armor break
she should have about 6s on hindenburg gun, 1st shot is free if you open into map with something in range/angle
Standard DD gear and middle or off tank
How is daisen first impression btw
8th shot should be... 40-ish seconds right
She's an SR BB in 2024
she's a horse
Copy that thank you
🙏blessed
at least she has 100% barrage
I'm less amused by what's basically a non-functional heal
Huh
she has a skill that launches a recon plane when she reloads main gun
when recon plane gets shot down heals vanguards
but in the whole game outside of PvP only 3 maps will have AA from the enemy
Is its normal for alvitr barrage (the spinny one) to not return? 
yes
feelsCAman
it ignores shields while going forth, but goes poof instantly on its way back if it touches a shield. And its hitbox is huge so it WILL touch a shield if there's a shield
Alright, thanks 
Bro.... thats actually tragic
Who is writing these skills up??😂😂😂
I don't think the devs remember that campaign stages have no functional AA
should i finish pr6 first (im halfway on it) or switch to pr7?
avoid leaving a research series before you're done with it
this basically holds true regardless of new series
Oops
does lvl 125 vs 120 make a difference in support fleet for w15?
Yes
big difference or not really?
Not that I would go out my way to 125 support fleet CVs
ahh, i see thanks 
when should i leave pr4 ? after i get 2 tenrai ?
if you bought 1 copy you should get 1 copy from research for 2 total
assuming ships are all complete
i have none of the ship yet 
complete in the sense you have enough prints for all of them perhaps including catchup, you should finish unlocking them long before then
it's just easier if you have the PR ships actually built because you can hasten the process with coin enhancing
Does fighting in archived memory add up to the EXP task in ship research?
/prgrind yee
Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?
- Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
- Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
- Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
- PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.
the only ship i have built in shipyard is saint louis , and now im in progress to get roon to get tech point for fdg 
(That is also a very weird way of calling War Archive)
Pls do not the bread
Consume
that's what you get for replacing 6 ships at a time...
where do you intend to farm with that even
what if I told you 12-1
That fleet isn't even making it past 3 mobs before failing
If you plan on farming 12-1 with this it's gonna fail btw
Also do you even know that you can only farm CDC for Napoli with vanguards and Nakhimov's with Main ships?
There's no reason to bring 6 heavily undereleveled ships to 12-1 

so let me correct myself, 10 coins in enhancing research is the advisable number?
You mean buying 10 bps?
yes
For DRs 10
For PRs 10~15
just depends how fast you are able to generate coins
is perseus a ship worth using bulins on to mlb or nah?
No need when you have Unicorn
Hello everyone, I have reached Chapter 9 and I'm wondering if I should resort to a Meta Fleet?
Like the META Faction? Not at all, faction fleets are bad
No, like the other Meta kind of fleet
I mean the starter recommended fleet is kinda "meta" up to W9 or so 
Now you would need to work into a second fleet once you are done with W9
My Eagle Union fleet is what's gotten me to World 9, and I have two.
They are both mostly over 100
Do you mind sharing said fleets?
Yeah, you'll just have to wait a bit if you don't mind.

smoothie

Now that they said USS fleets I'm scared Unicorn might not be in any of them 


USS healer when
Arizona doesnt count smh 
vestal
I'm sorry, my tablet is having Connection issues, I'll just ask about this another time.
Dw, take your time if you need it, I have insomnia 
Go sleep smh 
Smh time to drag u to bed 
Rough, sorry to hear that mate. This probably won't resolve itself until morning honestly.
Oh 
Well there's ppl that can help in here most of the time so just ask whenever you can, but as a recommendation I and many will give, faction fleets aren't good if you plan on pushing harder campaign stages and most of the times they are detrimental towards progress
And whenever you want help with your fleets you can post your dock **in a thread ** sorted by level and filtering commons and rares out 
faction fleets are only "useful" for pr grinding otherwise nah
Can you really call 3 ships of a certain faction a faction fleet tho? 
Some of them are good but high investment and niche
Since you only use 3 of them at a time for CDC's
Sounds about right, all 3 of my Eagle Union fleets have SR, UR or the Purple Rarity that I can't remember the actual name of.
oh ffs i forget it's vanguard
sigh
Well replace that mainline for actual ships that can carry your vanguard 
I also would say level them to 70 with books if possible
Wait I'm confused what are you trying now 
Cuz if Napoli that vanguard isn't gonna give much exp towards CDC
basically just using 1 ship inside of my main fudge around and find out
also its towards nakh not napoli
Wait are you even done with PR4?
why is everyone so ready to jump on the napoli band wagon????
because she's very good
i can't change rn
I'm wondering why everyone wants Nakhimov?
24 hour nonsense
because DR
I suggest just forget about PR7 and do PR4
i want her for two reasons. One, she looks like another character from a game called nikke, and secondly, i want her because she is a cat girl
But if you are just gonna unlock her cuz you like her I guess go ahead 
Somehow, I'm not surprised, no offense of course.
can she even be farmed using british ship?
only one with memorable design
Nope, NP and Sardegna only
Halford speaks to me out of everyone in PR 7
well its either i struggle with using bad vanguard or wait and just grind
huh then he was gonna farm nak with british and US?

just wait
why struggle, she isn't going anywhere
he wasnt farming her tho
yes i know
Nah they were going to use this #gameplay-help message but forgot only Main ships work towards her CDC
i am, but only one ship would get the exp needed
oh, that's not bad
then thats just pointless
well i could also grind lower levels
Only using 1 ship will be very slow btw
who says i must do 12-1
no one
yes i know this, believe me i know
it's just more effective
It's not a must, but it's the most effective without needing strong ships
im just doing 13-4
why not 15-1, or is that sadism?
go for it
How is 15-1 sadism?
coz the pool of usable ships is grows exponentially smaller when you go to 14 and 15
because you need more and more carry higher stage you go
yep
and that's a waste of exp
I see
when is the spam of aviation? i know there is world where aviation is hell
and the exp gain doesnt really get any better
13 is spam, 15 is plane hell
Ok so by this logic, my Eagle Union fleet COULD possibly make it to W12 at the least.
XD good to know
But will probably struggle past that
With enough lvl and good gear
Sounds about right, I'm just happy I can put off Meta for a bit longer
You are not beating W14 atleast with a faction fleet imo
Unless you know what you're doing
Maybe W13
I do not appreciate having to resort to Meta but, it is what it is really.
People beat w15 with faction but they know what they're doing and manual
And minmax gear
rn just gonna grind w8 with my team
Push to 9-1 at least
that i can do easy
grind w9 at least because oilcap
Your pfp reminded me of Halford lol
oilcap? wdym
Wait you are not even in oilcap and you are planning to grind Research? 
That doesn't sound like a good idea
why do you even need the research ship so badly
im not very knowledged on this game btw, so do expect me to pull stupid crap like this
Cuz he likes her 
make your phone wallpaper her png i guess
It's not that stupid
achieves the same thing
nah
People here like to exaggerate
ngl i try to be blunt and truthful
Alright then how do i use my custom wallpaper sararoga in meta fight
lol
how do you use a dev 0 nakhimov in meta fights?
you can't even use her rn anyways
strawmanning is insane
You raise them to dev30, you can't raise your wallpaper to dev30
It's gonna take a while yes
yea and you can gain bps without building the ship
idk why but dev30 sounds like trying to get favorite items in nikke
Btw research ships are pretty useless if not Dev 30
Why not have the png as your wallpaper and get the character also?
this is not a hill you want to die on buddy
i would imagine so
What
because theres much better things to do to progress than gimping yourself trying to grind cdc xp using ships youll never use again on w9
Morale
yeah that
So just unlocking her means a couple weeks of work, since you aren't using 3 ships to grind the exp and also not on W12, and -1 dock slot 
i am on w12, just can't do it with ease rn
Anyway push 9-1 at least, then try to raise 2nd fleet to push 12-1
And I said before, research itself it's pretty coin hungry if you wanna do it efficiently that's why we recommend ppl to focus on it on W12
I suggest you give this a read also https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
Perhaps
Then you can start working on research ships full time
Didn't you just said something about W8? 
Where are you right now
i am using w8 to make idle grinding easier without manual. w12 i have to use my full team without using any other ships
If I'm not mistaken W12 but he's gonna grind in W8
Clear multiple times until it's safe. Then it'll be easy
Wait manual? 
i forgot that was a feature....
yeah where u control the ships and all that jazz
I don't trust Auto
Well it's faction fleet so not surprised. Anyway clear more until safe
isnt w8 like the worst place to be
I always use Manual.
Yeah I know but if you are struggling with L120 ships in W12 and having to manual, I think you need help with your gear or fleets tbh
Then auto can probably do it
I trust auto because I’m lazy
lol
I trust auto because it works 99% of the time

I am too but Auto MAKES your ships take damage and do less damage. That's why I employ Manual.
Yeah if you need to manual content it's either a fleet or a gear issue
The 1% is auto doing auto things and leaking subs
auto doesnt really do less dmg tho
on 12-1 i dont, but its dang near close where i will if it gets any tougher on my ships with this constant nonsense..... anyways im off as its 2:12 am for me and im tired
I think what they mean is everything misses, but can be solved by auto torps
and doesnt always even take less dmg
Well I don't know how Auto treats yall but thats how Auto treats me.
It doesn't really, it's just your ship not strong enough
does he have a healer on his mob
yeah uni
Well feel free to ask for help with your W12 fleets if you need it 
torps arent meaningful almost ever
You can go farther on manual with same lvl
But auto will works fine in the end
you shouldnt be dying then, just farm more on oilcap for levels
if u cant do 12-1 then do 11-1, or lower until 9-1
Well there is that too but that is what I have mostly noticed when using Auto, either way I just think Manual is better for me really.
If you'll willing to manual few hours then sure 
i mean that fleet could do auto w13 easily
boss
that boss fleet is shit and it has cheshire too
I see some problems
Mob has lil cheshire I think
aint no way u struggling w12 even if its questionable
balti cant tank at all
Is Cheshire that bad? Just curious
No, she's good
cheshire isnt bad, but you literally cant get 2 of them
Wait @red token exactly what is dying
I think that's little cheshire on mob
Lil chesh
oh that exists
on the first clear my laffey II almost died during auto
Forgot Lil Cheshy
not yet
Well her not being MLB might matter also
Chesh lv125 is tankier than laffey lvl105
like man your ships are like 3x better than the best possible ships we had in the game back in w13 release
Level 105 with 5 stars
Also for mob, you’d want a bb for flag to defend against ramming things
ngl this team has had not that much issue with sudoku's
Actually make thread and someone would come and assist you, you might want a fleet rework
Triple cv probably the best for mob w12/13
BB should still be on the middle
for boss it is, but this team has served me very well
are there any news on upcoming events? Just came back because I saw cat girl waifu so Ill start grinding PR7
a man of culture XD
Vanguard rerun next maint
Also that Implacable is missing alot of damage because she's 5/6 and under leveled
Bruh, another Nahkimov wanter lol
its taking a while to level her up ;-;
Vanguard rerun next week
oh vanguard rerun, ok I have time to save up some more cubes as I have only 350 
thats what you get when you release 4 boring designs and 1 good design
Rough
First part still stands, don't partially limit break your ships, example with Laffii and Implacable
Good news is you have a week to get 50 cubes, to be able to hard pity vanny
sadly ur bullins are not easy to obtain
Anyway if it's manual then manual it is. Repeat until it's safe then it should be easy
I have her so its fine, after vanguard rerun the next UR rerun should be Musashi right?
More of a reason to not partially limit break
Since they are so time gated
Oh nice, and I have no idea when musashi is lol
Yea but no date on that yet obv
i wish ur bullins were easier ;-;
Everyone does but shit happens 
I would hope not
they are easy enough
they are too hard
ik, but I can smell it landing at JP anni
Bulins just got easier
It's not hard it's timegated
how?
you just shot yourself on the foot when you decided to spread your bulins instead of focusing
Well not until after
Should be unless devs pull something out of their asses 
0% chance jp anni will be a rerun
Just need to play game xd
Cap was raised from 4k to 5k and you can get 1k from medal shop which doesn’t count towards cap
Easier but still hard
they are easy if u play
0.5 more bulin a month
Still net negative iirc
That can be said for multiple things ingame
And focus on getting them
You don't even need to focus
well around that timezone at least
I mean there's nothing to focus on, you get Spec core by just playing until the 5k cap
Play normally and you'll hit the cap
I'm aware but focusing on getting somthing tends to really help me out.
..... i had 16k currency for the ur bullins...... im very peeved rn
Just a piece of advice I guess
Why save, use them
Level your ships to 120
Do you mind sharing your dock?
Mlb a UR or 2
yeah i can, but its a long list
Do it in a thread
Non mlb ships are 🚮
Sorted by level and filter out commons and rares
I remember I used to post my entire dock on general not even in a thread
i will
alr
If you build a unit well enough can they handle all content?
no
Like a single unit for all content? 
No
Back in my day we had to use imgur
most units are not even close to good enough for the hardest stuff no matter the gear
level 1 Mutsuki
Some ships just have their limits, and some content will just shred ships for even breathing.
Unicorn but only for mob is the closest
Unicorn works for all content but not by herself only 
Nah just like if you're not playing for meta and you're playing ships you like can you get away with playing most SR ships for example?
Not really
for the hardest stuff no
With good enough gear probably? but I doubt for W15
w14 is impossible too
With only SRs?
At most a ship could handle w14, if you plan w15 and one shotting meta boss fights..?
My way is to 1st raise meta ships, enough to clear hard contents.
Then I'm free to raise anyone i want, even use waifu fleet for opsi mob
he didnt say SRs only, he said random non meta SRs
Hmm 
depending which SRs those are even w13 could be impossible
yeah even w13 lol
Full Neptunia SRs
You dinosaur
So you can use whatever you want for opsi?
for hard opsi stuff no lol
W14 is technically kind of possible with enough resets and with enough gear to compensate
And submarines to support the missing firepower
But just why
you realize that theres good chance there isnt any healer on the fleet
^ that too, you're forced to have a healer if you wanna run something really subpar
need a bit of help here with good team comps
What about brennus?
Ok but not good huh hmm too bad. I liked her
she probably works up to w13 fine
Unicorn+ 5 works for mob
Keyword mob
What about instead of unicorn it's perceus? 👀
welp all of the big ships that i would think are important have been posted
I used percy Theseus Saratoga and 3 random pink haired vg
If you dont have the firepower to compensate perseus' lack of damage you're better off with unicorn
Uni > Perseus
But since it is opsi, perseus is okay-ish
perseus is basically just unicorn but with 2x longer cooldown
Percy works fine though
Again, opsi mob
The drawback so far is that i can't kill stronghold final boss sometimes so just change to other fleet
What's the best craftable gun for Agir? The SK C/39 ?
if that's the PR4 gun yeh
Also can I coin Agir or do I need the blueprint things
Cannot coin Agir (at present)
So uh any fast ways to get Agir blueprints after finishing the catchup
research PR4
Should I deselect my new catchup focus too?
whether you're doing any catchup doesn't matter but you should be focused on PR4
Hmm
Can you claim wa ticket separately?like at 58/60
Claim 2, use 2 then claim another 2
no once you claim you claim all 4
I see, thanks
if it overflows it's gone
Hey guys, i need help with w15 even tho i have most the good ship i still struggle at 15-3 any tips ?
what's dying
I think everything but mostly the back
planes or sub
Planes
#bot-spam /w15 check your AA setup
Ok thanks
Is there any guide about what to buy from the medal shop?
Beat me to it 🐌
when doing the EXP grind for PR7 does battling all enemies give more EXP per sortie?
all enemies just means that it still rushes the boss
it just uses only that fleet for every fight
oh okay so no difference when doing auto
its just if you dont want to use your other fleet
its just a little bit more xp, if your farming fleet can handle boss you can do it
its not more exp if your boss fleet also has exp ships
true
Comms results only s or a right?
You could argue boss fleet could contribute more exp to the grind since they would have morale bonus
Assuming the grind ships are all dormed
yes id rather use 2 fleets if possible
what can this give 👀
Using dedicated boss fleet allow to use shittier mob fleet
Less dying is less morale consumption
Sandy lusty hood enterprise warspite
Its a pretty outdated commission that only gives the base game ssr gacha ships, the ships I listed above are some of the possible drops
Its not very worth it
getting actual SSR from that is also insanely rare
Unless you going to sleep
still wouldnt take it
What's better. AVP or Anchorage
does different things
well they dont really have the same use
do you need a tank or support for CV fleet
If i run out of good comms i would take it, so situational
I have Agir , Roon and Prinz Heinrich as tanks
only agir from those is actually good
But now the question I have is .. is Anchorage as tanky as Agir
no
but her smoke could make others in the fleet more tanky than what they would be with agir
Hmm
Then for AVP. Is she anywhere as strong as say Implacable , Enterprise or even Graf Zeppelin
you would never use imp and avp together
That's fair enough but my goal is to figure out which I get next
well like i said i dont see any use for avp
Does it help for IB tech
if you need tech points then sure
Hmm
once i get fdg to dev30 she can replace hood in mob right
I'll hold on to this consideration for now
d30 fdg could replace almost any flagship in mob fleet
are there BB support frontliners out there
Speaking about FDG. Is she in any stronger than maybe NJ
ply
or do i just throw 2 tanks and squish helena in between
fdg is much better than NJ in general, NJ is just better in boss fights
NJ is probably better for bosses but FdG is much better than NJ for mobs
I see ... I shall get to working on her asap
also with agir not having fatesim, does her face disappear from pr4 once i get her to dev30
yes
so when her fatesim gets released she will come back?
i still have a chance to get her prints through cube research right
in which case you will need to specifically focus PR4 for her face research to show up, if you focus any other series PR4 researches will stop showing up
cubes and grant will still drop her prints, yes
should i protocore these prints or leave it until fs5
just leave it
alright
we're not expecting it soon enough, and may be able to coin Agir by then
also if i have bp selectors for series 4, should i use these to speed up someone or use at my own discretion
depends on how far you are from finishing 4
ancho is done, agir has enough prints for d27, haku has d25 but im lacking IJN tech, avp is fs2 and coining, marco is uh not even close
i dont have problems with dockspace anymore but im still reluctant to spend effort developing a ship i wont use
you mean you have enough for hakuryuu d25 but not enough tech to unlock her?
d25 haku is still bad anyway
in that case just hold on to the prints first
im wondering if i should use em to d30 agir or use on haku
if they're the DR selectables just take Agir and be done with it
meanwhile PR selector i can use them for protocore?
avp is not in a rush to be used, cause i need to level her too
if you need protocores go ahead I guess
FS5 needs lv100 anyway if you can't bump her quickly
i did more napkin math and found that i had 9000 protocore to get out of various methods
which is enough for tenrai and plygun, and maybe another one of the UR gears that i havent decided yet
but itll take me roughly 2-4 months to get all that
its a pain in the ass to do but ill end up saving alot of time to get some pretty good gear
when is Vanguard rerun?
the UR gear are all one-time anyway so just wait until you actually have excess prints 
Brest vs Guam for boss?
probably next week, upcoming just said after next maintenance but we don't have maintenance date yet
depends™️
Tank against light armour, triple German BB backline
if this is an abyssal then whatever
Arby
if it's for Temperance I might prefer Guam
Why’s that
AA
not a serious difference if you're not using CV fleet though
Guam should have slightly better damage anyway
Aight thanks
is this 30min research new or just very rare? first time I see that
Where can I get depth charge?
18th
Thanks. Another question. Why is this port red?
Crimson Axis port
Ah, no wonder I can't change deployment there. Thanks.
Any fleet setups for Nakhimov?
Sorry, I meant EXP Fleet setups
I’m grinding for her, and struggling with comps that help boost with CDC without my fleet dying on 12-4
does pamiat merkuria meta slow work for nakhimov?
My english terrible mb
mean you can just do volga, litorio veneto
Just raised Litorio and Veneto might steal MVP🫠
if you want to max XP for dev you want MVP on flagship
Yeah, and I just care about efficiency when grinding main fleet ships
Any good maps to farm t3 aircraft plates at ? I just got a tenrai and very soon I'll get a Wyvern
just let VV flag and take MVP and swap her out if she caps out
if you want to level her sure
Have 2 ships left, MP and Soyuz, MP is 125 alr and Soyuz is 122
I’mma equip confetti gun for MVP control 🗿
just level other ships if you cap out, it really doesn't matter
hey guys so i wrote this research build order + catchup order for maximum protocore gain, but its kinda long, do i put it in a thread so you guys can tear me apart for it away from the main channel 
like I'm not sure what sort of MVP control you want to do, just use the strongest main fleet ship as flag so you get flag + MVP, if cap out move in next ship
do we know how Whichita META (playable) is performing? 
glass cannon
it's not a super big deal tbh, just level those ones are not capped and mvp control is not necessary, CDC is only 120+240, far from maxing them all any way
yeh
but is she good enough? 
for what? she's just another SR META
enough to be played and invested, I've no idea how other SR meta are performing
basically no META ships are ever worth bothering with then
ah that's kinda sad, alright thanks for the info 
well they don't cost bulins and significantly less skill books, but they're a pain in the arse for skill leveling
with all those rainbow ships, most SR ships are just there for... populating your dock
