gameplay-help

[soft raft]

Realistically Q and G for gear, D for BPs
H is only good if you have like at least 800-1k cubes in bank

[silk helm]

how many tenrai do u have

[sweet delta]

You don't need to know

[silk sphinx]

2-3 is enough for pretty much everything

[hollow gust]

It was 4 or 5

[silk sphinx]

I don’t rly ever use more than 2, very rarely 3

[silk helm]

sheeesh thats crazy. do i put it on uni or enty? for my first one

[soft raft]

Unicorn cant even equip DBs

[elfin hollow]

I got two but i am getting more

[silk sphinx]

Two is enough, move on to another series

[viscid swift]

getting more than 2 Tenrais right now is pointless unless you're really close to your next one

[hollow gust]

Why? Just push for the next season

[pale tulip]

bit lost here... I was able to withdraw oil and coins from Mail>Storage, was that always there?

[elfin hollow]

since i am doing pr4 i plan finishing dev30 on agir and haku

they're both in dev28 rn

[viscid swift]

I don't know how you managed to get a tenrai from research before dev 30ing them but anyway
once they're both Dev 30 switch to another season, probably PR7

[silk sphinx]

Not pr5?

[viscid swift]

PR7 is looking stronger overall at this point

[silk sphinx]

Well I guess they’ll be coinable soonish

[pale tulip]

?

[silk helm]

its new ish

[wary timber]

Btw if I'm done with Agir for PR4 .. should I get Hakuryuu or AVP if I wish to come back to PR4

[silk sphinx]

new update, they reworked how mail system works. Now all oil and coin you collect in mail is instead first stored in a specific storage tank thing in mail, from which you can then extract whatever amounts you want whenever

[viscid swift]

get Haku to dev 30 and 2 tenrais before moving on from PR4

[elfin hollow]

cuz I use the booster pr blueprints to anazyle them and I got both of them

[wary timber]

Haku eh..

[elfin hollow]

meh they still need some bit of time

[wary timber]

I'll note on that

[viscid swift]

what?

[elfin hollow]

nvm

[wary timber]

Maybe yea cuz I need to work on FDG next

[undone plover]

he means the protocore tenrai

[viscid swift]

yeah but you can only get one Tenrai from the Prototype shop

[wary timber]

All right. I'm going to push 10-4 till I get agir tonight

[undone plover]

oh he has two

[pale tulip]

@silk helm @silk sphinx thanks

[silk helm]

no worries

[wary timber]

Queue the doom music while I torp everything

[viscid swift]

I implore you to just wait until you get to W12 before farming XP for PR ships
w12 is so much faster and easier it's not even funny

[merry leaf]

Is alvitr good?

[wary timber]

Dammit wrong chat

[merry leaf]

Do u just spam 12-4?

[viscid swift]

she's okay

[silk sphinx]

any stage in w12 really

w12-1 has best exp efficiency, w12-4 has best coin efficiency in w12

[merry leaf]

Tyty

[dawn crest]

One 457mm from OpS and another from Prototype shop is enough?

[viscid swift]

for most purposes yes

if you have Musashi then just 1

[dawn crest]

thx

[silk helm]

if i got no food in my dorm, does the morale still regen?

[silk sphinx]

only thing affected is exp gain (i think it drops to around 1/4)

yep 25%

[orchid tulip]

I need to "switch" develop to chaklov but she's already maxed as you can see, my question is: can I finish chaklov and then switch to nakhinov right away or I get the 24h penalty regardless?

so sad..

[crisp estuary]

Not in the game yet. Soviet DR uses Soviet and what faction to gain xp?

[dapper fox]

are meta ships considered as their faction ship? ie. kirov meta = north parliament (?)

[orchid tulip]

parliament and sardegna main xp

[eternal basalt]

Sardegna

[crisp estuary]

How tf is she using an enemy faction she does not even interact with? It's like farming a French ship with Japanese ships

[crimson glacier]

Didn't Sardegna and NP have connection before too

[eternal basalt]

You need Sardegna and NP points for both DR

[keen sable]

why do you assume sn is capable of building ships and doesn't just buy second hand aquilas

[crisp estuary]

Oh that's her lore?

[inner delta]

[dawn hamlet]

not really gameplay but out of curiousity, is there a cute nickname for friedrich?

[stark quiver]

what is the main source of voucher income

[dawn hamlet]

I see, thank you guys

[keen sable]

doing ops. i think it's irrelevant to try to isolate any one behavior.

[eternal basalt]

Opsi vouchers? Doing opsi

[stark quiver]

cuz im stuck at 7k rn, and it keeps going down

[inner delta]

you know ill introduce you to a channel #al-general maybe you didn't know it exist

[keen sable]

it's july 11...

[eternal basalt]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Operation_Siren#Reset

[vale spindle]

They are part of the "META" faction

[undone plover]

it goes down when u clear your coordinates
it is normal

[stark quiver]

ah so thats why

[vagrant panther]

Just checking. 2 Tenrais including the one you can exchange for right?

[mint fox]

So, i accidentally recovered my old account and this is what it looks like. Could somebody be kind enough to help me make a mob fleet and a boss fleet for the campaign since I'm starting chapter 9 now😊

[wintry obsidian]

Looks like Bayard is pretty good. Her barrages are strong

[dawn hamlet]

is sandy good without her retrofit?

[little tree]

her retorfit skill is the main reason she is good

[dawn hamlet]

so, not worth using her without her retro?

[signal pollen]

Should I make a 0 affinity team so I can farm gold with it

[eager mulch]

what does 0 affinity have to do with farming gold

[vagrant panther]

So what happens if you set focus on season 4, but have already dev30 all ships? Would Tenrai blueprints drop more?

[eager mulch]

no

[crimson glacier]

you get guaranteed 3 season 4 researches per refresh

[eternal basalt]

If all ships are maxed you get all ship research

[vagrant panther]

Right. So the only thing that changes is the face research will be from other seasons but it doesn't increase the rate of blueprints. Gotcha

[crimson glacier]

faces will be from all seasons

[eternal basalt]

No, it will primarily be PR4

[vagrant panther]

Alright thanks.

[sweet delta]

@vale spindle la9 does not have similar damage to saiun it's comparable on heavy only
Also timing never doesn't matter, in fact I think vit2conv is worse than ryuusei in most situations

[viscid swift]

fleet help

[icy mountain]

should i bother getting this?

[eager mulch]

it’s a good aug

[vagrant panther]

Very good aug

[eternal basalt]

You have very few augment modules though

[icy mountain]

hmmm, sara aug or shangri la aug?

[icy mountain]

i dont mind spending them, i already got sandy aug

[sweet delta]

Enterprise is a cheaper and stronger Shangri la

[icy mountain]

ye but i use them both in the same fleet in opsi since i have yet to unlock avp

[vagrant panther]

Since your aug materials are limited, might be better to hold it off and spend on someone you'd not replace relatively soon

[elfin hollow]

So what RN comp should i run in 12-4 to farm exp for her?

[viscid swift]

3 royal navy vanguards that need levels

[icy mountain]

okay then

[elfin hollow]

so who should i put?

[vagrant panther]

Of course, if you feel really strongly about getting Shangri-la aug, feel free to. Aug materials do come relatively quickly in my opinion.

[viscid swift]

Cheshire, London, Sirius

[elfin hollow]

should i run 3 ships too in the backline or no?

[tame jungle]

Doesn’t really matter on vanguard grind, just do 3 ships that you wanna level/use

If your frontline is dying bring unicorn

[native folio]

when do you need to start using 2 fleets for the campaign? I'm on chapter 3 and i feel like i might need to use another fleet

[elfin hollow]

So Perseus is just fine alone in backline?

[viscid swift]

yes because oil caps exist
doesn't need to be royal navy main fleets though, any 3 main fleets you need to level work

[elfin hollow]

or should i run perseus uni in backline?

[viscid swift]

no because they're capped, you'd just be wasting XP

[elfin hollow]

👍

[eager mulch]

It’s not good to have a second fleet before W9

[wide marsh]

Did "Enigmata D" (whale plush) have any benefit compared to purple toolbox?

[native folio]

what do people mean by second fleet / not good to have a second fleet? I tried just putting some low level shipgirls into a second fleet and they help me take out some of the small enemies in a level to save my main fleet some ammo - is this bad?

[eager mulch]

yes

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[hushed cliff]

What do we know about yellow PR 7 gear? Anything really worth getting?

[native folio]

i read through this, did it say why 2 fleets is bad? i just see it says you do slightly reduced damage at 0 ammo, but doens't really explain why 2 fleets is bad?

[eager mulch]

because you’re dividing your resources into 2 weak fleets when you can have one strong fleet that will get you farther

[hushed cliff]

It makes noise so that’s a huge W

[wide marsh]

I would rater want some HP restored than hearing random noises

[sonic flame]

We didn't get anything about FS for older PRs, right?

[eager mulch]

no, we did not get any new fate sim

[torpid laurel]

Is it possible to progress on combat data collection 2 before it unlocks?

[eager mulch]

no

[native folio]

what are resouces exactly? like gear and shipgirls? I'm talking about having one strong fleet, and you randomly throw together a second fleet without transferring gear from the main fleet

[hushed cliff]

Time

[eager mulch]

xp mainly and gear

[viscid swift]

coins, gear, bullins, plates, worthwhile ships, etc

[eternal basalt]

Generally ~ 1 month after new season released

[native folio]

to clarify, by randomly throw together a second fleet, I don't mean level them up and gear them up. Can you not just choose 6 un-used shipgirls and if they beat a few enemies for you in the level is that bad? Is that 'bad' that the fleets will split xp or what? I'm talking solely for the purpose of trying to beat a level

[viscid swift]

you can and should
but I wouldn't really call that a 2nd fleet

[eager mulch]

I still wouldn’t, takes away xp from the good fleet

[eternal basalt]

Of course then your stumped and people recommend you level a second fleet

[native folio]

i mean, there is the purpose of trying to beat a level vs going back and farming it for xp, no? why nerf yourself when trying to beat a level for the first time?

[uncut oar]

The thing is level advantage is massive and not abusing it is very sus, which is why any kind of 2nd fleet is unadvisable before you gain access to good xp farms (therefore the cutoff at W9)

[eager mulch]

because it’s not a nerf because your good ships will have adequate levels to push even further

[uncut oar]

Any XP you gain while pushing to W9 that isn't being put on your main fleet is not contributing towards level advantage and therefore not contributing to pushing to W9 where you begin to be able to spare XP, gear and coins on a second fleet

[viscid swift]

I would say being able to tackle the boss with your main fleet with ammo is a pretty good trade off

[uncut oar]

It's 2% damage buff + 2% less damage taken per level up to 50% with a 25 level diff before accounting for stats

[viscid swift]

not to mention the ships can and probably will be used to pad hard node requirements

this is a fleet that will at best be fighting one or 2 mobs per sortie remember

[eternal basalt]

Isn't 25% the cap

[viscid swift]

not doing all the mobs, and absolutely minimal resources will be put into it

[uncut oar]

I don't think it's 25% considering 2% per level.

Not clean number of levels to cap. I'm 99.9% certain it is 50%

[vocal sigil]

Is it too early to ask if any of the PR7 ships have higher prio than Plymouth? I'm just a couple days from finishing PR4 and not sure which ship to start development on now

[viscid swift]

on balance right now I'm leaning towards
PR4 -> PR7 -> PR5 -> PR6 for new players
but that order could be very violotile

[stoic ore]

does not haveing a second fleet also count too a sub fleet as well or should i biuld them?

[viscid swift]

subs are a much lower priority than a 2nd fleet

[forest palm]

very low priority

[stoic ore]

cool so i will just forget about them then

[native folio]

sry don't think I follow, why does making 'another fleet' with just random shipgirls that you don't use/don't give gear/etc, affect level advantage and the inability to abuse it?

[rain vine]

because that fleet will be useless

[spice phoenix]

should i work with any of these ships? (worlds 13+)

[viscid swift]

Owari maybe depending on your options, the rest are just tech

[native folio]

i was using that 'another fleet' to help me clear one or two enemies in a level to save my main fleet some hp, is that not good? this the first time trying to beat a level

[noble tulip]

Bismarck/Owari/Richi/Clemenceau/Tirpitz/Jean Bart are +2 fp tech if anything

[spice phoenix]

oh ok

[pearl veldt]

long time no see

[rain vine]

your fleets can fight on 0 ammo with enough level and gear advantage
you can single fleet all the way until world 10-11

[eager mulch]

the fleet will fall off in later stages and your main fleet won’t be as good because the other fleet took some xp that the main fleet could have gotten

[uncut oar]

It boils down to oil. You're burning oil without providing that fleet XP and using coins on another fleet in a time when because pre-W9 oil cap isn't a thing oil is a major limiting factor in the xp and coins you're able to get

Less XP is less levels, less coins is worse gear, therefore making it slower to progress

[native folio]

ok so basically if i feel like i need the second fleet to help out, my main fleet isnt strong enough, and i should farm more for the main fleet. But if I can use that 'another fleet' strat to help me beat a higher level, isn't it better to have that level unlocked to farm b/c its better to farm high levels?

[keen sable]

it's a valid tactic

[pearl veldt]

hood is ok

[silk helm]

why does the research guide list azuma and drake as lower priority

[spice phoenix]

Should I start working on MLBing kron, mogador, and UvH or should I wait to see the next UR ship?

[eager mulch]

vanguard next week

[viscid swift]

what UR BBs do you have?

[undone plover]

they are expensive and a bit powercrept

[keen sable]

what guide and they're free?

[silk helm]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_focus

[spice phoenix]

MLB’d biscuit II, nj, soyuz, and alsace, warspite

[undone plover]

think he means Sam's shipyard prio

[silk helm]

Since FdG has coin-up, she is the highest priority to acquire. Azuma and Drake also have coin-up, but they are worse value compared to FdG.

[uncut oar]

There's 2 issues with that, the first is again you're spending coins on more pieces of gear when you don't have enough good gear for both fleets most likely, the second is if you are trying to use "minimal resources" on a fleet pre oil cap you probably aren't MLBing the ships due to levels/coins/both, and ships before MLB are very bad as a rule of thumb. Which means your second fleet is most likely not killing anything your first fleet can't because it'll be doing less damage than your main fleet does while out of ammo.

[viscid swift]

honestley I'd just hoard UR Bullins for now and see what happens

[spice phoenix]

ok thanks!

[uncut oar]

Honestly with how hard you defend twofleeting your mind is set anyways so just farm

[remote forge]

hi! im relatively new and i was wondering what ships i should prioritize for levelling or mlb and some suggestions for fleet formation (i also have enough ur bulins to mlb one of the ur ships but im not sure which to mlb first)

[keen sable]

because fdg is better...

[worldly pewter]

yes not good
waste of xp in the long run

[undone plover]

anyone have the the chart/image with the in game units? like how many units for CV detection line etc

[viscid swift]

start a thread and post all of your URs, SRs, and elites there

[covert phoenix]

Just to clarify, once you clear a challenge mode once, you keep its rewards (chat frame, profile frame, etc.) forever, right?

You don't have to go and redo it every annual cycle?

[shell willow]

@undone plover

[eager mulch]

real question is what anime cheeky paused to be here

[rose whale]

where can I find the new gears?

[balmy kiln]

Would anyone happen to know why azur lane stopped auto rotating? It's bugging the shit out of me but also idk if it's some phone update or the game itself

[silk sphinx]

they're research gear, you have to grind for them via research academy

[rose whale]

dang...

[wide marsh]

If I feed Akashi to random bulin, will I have any chance to get her again?

[keen sable]

you can't recover your losses after scam cat gets you

[wide marsh]

I'm just curious about some quest/collection limited ships.

[soft raft]

I find that I have to first put my phone to the orientation it was at before I flip it, then it works

Esp right after you first turn on auto-rotate

[cloud fractal]

Oh… for the love of sweet Christmas. Agïr needs CDC w/ IB main fleet again? Guess I’m pulling out Strasser and Graf again with FdG instead of OG Biscuit again…

[rapid grail]

CBs do need XP from both the backline and the frontline ships of their faction/s.

[keen sable]

at least you have the cv. a lot of people need to use bad ships.

[cloud fractal]

Oh it could be so much worse. But I was hoping to be done with that nonsense. The faction fleets don’t feel great.

[rain vine]

🤨 you dont need faction fleets though

[spice phoenix]

are any of these ships useful for anything OTHER than tech? (i’m at commander level 113, so mid-late game content)

[cloud fractal]

If you’re trying to complete any time before Christmas, it seems inevitable, and a massively inefficient use of oil.

[forest palm]

you really don't need a faction fleet...

[rain vine]

its either backline or frontline
its never both at the same time

[viscid swift]

what, no

[forest palm]

3 ships does not make a faction fleet

[rain vine]

no

[spice phoenix]

thanks

[wide marsh]

Isn't Z46 a decent dd gunboat?

[forest palm]

by today's standards, no

usable for sure

[keen sable]

she's not tiered as one pun intended

[cloud fractal]

Ah. I was under the impression that the term was used interchangeably for a full faction vanguard or main fleet that was one faction. Not both. My bad, I’m intending to say the same thing, but improper vocab usage.

[forest palm]

typically when we talk about faction fleet the verbiage refers to a full fleet, anything else is a mixed fleet

[cloud fractal]

Yeah, I understand what Shady was saying now.

[wispy pendant]

If you are pairing soyuz with Nakhimov, who else do you bring? Haku, Shinano, Implac, or ??

[viscid swift]

tbd

[rain vine]

still not a massive waste unless you arent farming oil cap maps
in which case you shouldnt even be actively farming pr exp

[cloud fractal]

I’m not. I’m at 12-1 now. Been farming that.

[little tree]

Is brest and hinden still worth it over pr7?

[acoustic thistle]

halford is the only dd that can use seaplane so far right

[viscid swift]

yes

[eager mulch]

yes

[acoustic thistle]

thank

[viscid swift]

how deep are you into PR5 and PR6 right now?

[little tree]

i have 180 BP for brest and like 10 for each

Wepsons is like half for some

[viscid swift]

are you still working on PR4?

[little tree]

yes

[viscid swift]

after you finish 4 then 7 might be the best choice to focus next

[little tree]

For tech only not ships correct?

[tulip ibex]

Last kindergarten event, did they have dorm furniture set for sale?

[viscid swift]

what

[keen sable]

what tech

[slow fox]

Updated Napoli smokescreen from 6s to 6.5s

(Blame Jimmers)

[little tree]

i ment weapons

[forest palm]

I don't think there's any inherent rush to do PR7 over say PR4, or Plymouth from PR5, when you start to talk about Brest though Napoli would probably facilitate a similar role

[keen sable]

is rrocket broken?

[viscid swift]

I still think 4 is the season to start with

[keen sable]

so much for the ca can't tank meme

[viscid swift]

but overall I think 7 offers more than 5

[slow fox]

To be fair, I haven't heard of this ever.

[forest palm]

it would help to know the status of your Research, any ships completed, how many ships are left within the given season, that in itself would help weight the decision more

[thorn tartan]

who is the boss in hard stage 13-1. the wiki just says boss: 123

[earnest flare]

Do people usually always have a self training commission (1200 oil) going to try and cycle to find the cube ones or do people avoid them entirely since it’s not coin/oil efficient

[thorn tartan]

And do you recommend anyone for stage 13-1 other than guam and san diego?

[thorn tartan]

who's that

[sweet delta]

Mogami

[keen sable]

i do on alt

[thorn tartan]

that's the hard stage?

[keen sable]

same as normal

[thorn tartan]

oh ok

[sweet delta]

Normal and hard have the same enemies

[thorn tartan]

good to know, ty

interestingly i did a search for AA and it had guam and san diego, but constellation was 3rd. should i use her?

[sweet delta]

AA stat isn't everything

The sort also includes equipped gear

[thorn tartan]

my earlier question was who do you recommond for stage 13-1 hard

[sweet delta]

The same template you used for 13-1 normal, but better ships and gear and levels

[keen sable]

you must need to refresh or something

[sweet delta]

The usual suspects like unicorn, rainbow ships, aquila, stuff

[thorn tartan]

i didn't really think about 13-1 normal much.... just went with recommendations i think. thank you though.

i'll put in guam and a bunch of top tier ships and see how it goes. i think i can get by in the mob without a lot of AA

are those imrpoved quad mag torps we got a couple weeks ago the best in the game?

[stark quiver]

best mag torp

[thorn tartan]

i think i'll put them on unzen...... unless you have a better idea

[stark quiver]

i dont becase i dont know what else you have

[thorn tartan]

all the ships in the last 11 months.

or maybe 9 months, since unzen basically

[shell lantern]

Hey uhhhh nerds I have no dockspace and I need to make dock space so what ships shall I retire

I have no dockspace someone please tell me who to retire

[thorn tartan]

buy more dock space

[shell lantern]

ok

[pale tulip]

does the mail storage replenish?

[thorn tartan]

i would consider getting rid of all the freebie meta ships (nobody uses those right?)

[pale tulip]

LMFAO the point at the viewer

[viscid swift]

please don't partially limit break your URs in future like this

[keen sable]

or join a better guild

[tame jungle]

they don't take dock space

[stark quiver]

meta ships have their own dock

[shell lantern]

I suck at this game 😭

[thorn tartan]

oh that's good to know

[slow fox]

Orphan Crushing Machine

[sweet delta]

Try it

[thorn tartan]

man i learn so much here, thanks guys

[keen sable]

replenish what and how?

[stark quiver]

thats not sucking at the game, thats just not enough dock space

[little tree]

LMAO that Thread NAME

[keen sable]

ai scrapping this will be good

[stark quiver]

claim mail to replenish

[pale tulip]

alr thanks

[heady pier]

fate simulation is the last thing to do for pr ship right?

[keen sable]

sometimes they have augs

[heady pier]

for anchorage at least idk

[stark quiver]

fate sim is the highest you can upgrade her in lab

[cloud fractal]

The rotating day shift and night shift must be getting to me. I have no idea why I started laughing maniacally at this.

[eager mulch]

someone wake me up when you can fate sim a ship before dev30ing them

[thorn tartan]

what is best weapons against medium armor

in general?

[eager mulch]

skyraider

[sweet delta]

533mm quadruple homing improved

[keen sable]

well centaur is easy to calc and seems meh.
leipzig isn't the aa boat you are looking for.

[spice phoenix]

whats the order of PR series I should go? (i have Anchorage FS5 and am working on getting Ägir to dev 30)

[soft raft]

FdG > Pretty much all of PR4 > At least Plymouth and maybe Brest from PR5 > Everyone else

Pending to see where PR7 falls in this list but for now, in the "Everyone else category"

[spice phoenix]

new np decisive kit looks good

dunno what the wiki thinks about it tho

[little tree]

will DR 4 be coinable soon since PR 7 launched

[viscid swift]

if 6 months or so is soon sure

[silk sphinx]

This is a first…

Nothing I can do here but quit right?

[eager mulch]

you can quit instead

[remote yarrow]

Can't you go all the way around and enter through the right?

Like the spot right next to the box?

[silk sphinx]

Lol thats a solid tile

[eager mulch]

couldnt you put 2 fleets on the 2 squares and get rid of the box

[remote yarrow]

This one? interesting

Well that's dumb

[silk sphinx]

This is blocked too lamo

[inland shoal]

That's just cursed

[worldly pewter]

this map is kinda cursed

[inland shoal]

Hmm wind vertices were not blockable with 2 fleets?

[silk sphinx]

Oh huh I’ll try that

[grizzled jasper]

There should be some square which deactivates wind, auto should handle that

[silk sphinx]

See this

It’s just a case of poor map generation, literally impossible to clear

[inland shoal]

Yeah I knew there was sth with wind, I had a vague memory

Rip you ig

OpSi map gen at its finest

[silk helm]

TIL u can get impossible opsi maps

[inland shoal]

Tho it's realistic, think about it. If you were a Siren wouldn't it be great to present all that treasure and then as they want to grab it psyche you spawn in obstacles and they can only leave
Sorry I'm tired

[silk sphinx]

you'll learn in time. there are treasure chests blocked off, enemies blocked off, akashi's blocked off... I've had some bugged iterations where I think some stuff spawned in the same square

this is the first I've had weather tower blocked off though in a hidden map

oh, and some islands that seem there but in reality you can go onto those tiles

[plucky acorn]

Anyone can help me?

[inland shoal]

I've had it before, only with that event that spawns in even more walls tho
Also had sth like a switch that spawned on top of a wall that spawned on top of a chest

[plucky acorn]

I like Iron Blood ships so does anyone know what ship formations are good?

[silk sphinx]

faction fleeting huh...

[inland shoal]

Idk if you can even call those a bug, they're just literally defined like that

[silk sphinx]

the opposite exists too of course, tiles that seem empty but you can't go onto them, see above example

[hallow iron]

What torpedoes do anchorage use

[inland shoal]

In general it is better to use a fleet with mixed factions

[silk sphinx]

Obligatory disclaimer that faction fleets are bad. if you want a IB faction fleet it'll likely be something like Bismarck zwei, Ulrich von Hutten, Friedrich der Große | Agir Emden Hindenburg

5 URs lel with emden to buff IB damage

[plucky acorn]

Yeah i know that

[silk sphinx]

her torpedo damage is kind of bad, so you should equip fast torps to proc her smoke

[plucky acorn]

But......

Aaaaaaaaaahhhhh

[hallow iron]

Can i have her BiS one?

[plucky acorn]

Ohh nice

Ty

[spring bolt]

just put ships you like in the fleet and call it a day. start worry performance when trouble finds you, not now

[silk sphinx]

one of the triple purples will do

[hallow iron]

Ngl I was actually from there and was just wondering which of the two is her bis

Last time I was there checking alsace gear and finds out one of the lower placement on the tier list is better than one of the higher placement

So just want to see which one I should craft

[silk sphinx]

The magnetic one is slower and less damage, but the magnetic one at least is going to hit something

I cope a little and use the magnetic one, but in the first place I don’t rly use anchorage much anymore

You should just go with the non mag honestly if your fleet is well built

[grizzled wave]

anyone else not get their oil and coins yet? after update

[silk sphinx]

? It’s in the mail storage

[silk sphinx]

Since new update a while back all claimed oil and coin is sent to mail storage, not directly to your current oil and coin count

[stark quiver]

funny thing is i still have nothing in my storage

[keen sable]

There has never been anything that can't be done using mags only

[silk sphinx]

You used it all huh… I’d recommend keeping a little for emergency use

[stark quiver]

rondo rerun was the lowest point of my career

[hallow iron]

Okmthx

[silk sphinx]

Sorry I wrote wrong, the magnetic one is slower and less dmg

[grizzled wave]

it says rewards collected but i didnt get oil or coins just the cubes

[silk sphinx]

See above

[keen sable]

not enough arrows

[silk sphinx]

^

[grizzled wave]

oh my fault

[spring bolt]

i saw 0 arrow, not good

[grizzled wave]

thanks

[keen sable]

requires too much out of the box thinking

[silk sphinx]

See the problem is, it was just red lines, not arrows

[stark quiver]

i usually look at the big red box

[echo adder]

best PR3 ship to research?

[silk sphinx]

The French one for tech prob, or cheshire for AA

[echo adder]

is Cheshire better than San Diego UR?

[shell willow]

i barely see anyone else used besides cheshire

[silk sphinx]

San diego is a lot better

[echo adder]

then i dont really need it

[silk sphinx]

But retrofit costs 2k spec core though

[echo adder]

but like, is odin good?

[silk sphinx]

Oh right. Yeah she’s good. I tend to forget about gold bbs these days

[echo adder]

alright ill get odin

[silk sphinx]

Also a good bc for hard mode recs

[echo adder]

bruh i dont need a German BB

[keen sable]

fdg is a lot better

[echo adder]

already have her

[keen sable]

guess no odin too

[echo adder]

whats the other german girl in pr3?

[viscid swift]

Mainz, a CL

[echo adder]

yeah, should i get her or Cheshire?

[keen sable]

mainz? useless

[viscid swift]

Cheshire has more use cases

[echo adder]

ok i guess all PR3 is useless for me 😭

[grizzled wave]

ahh icic i havent played in like 3/4 years so i was unaware

[keen sable]

and so we're left with champy

[echo adder]

need more french points

[silk sphinx]

Move to pr4 then

Better series too

[keen sable]

<

[eager mulch]

is Mainz bad?

[silk sphinx]

Ehh is more like it these days, no use cases too

[eager mulch]

wym

[silk sphinx]

She’s a mildly bulky cl. I don’t know what you want me to say

[eager mulch]

you said “no use cases” but didn’t list why

[silk sphinx]

Use case; situation where I’d use her over another. I can’t think of anything

I apologize if my terminology was inaccurate anyhow

[keen sable]

using a worse ship is not a use case

[eager mulch]

who’s better than her

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /tierlist

[marsh dust]

No, but mainly, its a choice of if you want to use her, you're spoiled for choice nowadays, and shes still pretty good, so if you wanna use her, use her. The only real challenges are W14 and 15, so if you're not there you should be good to use basically whoever. As long as you try to at least build, and gear a coherent fleet.

[silk sphinx]

Damage? Bulk? Buffer/debuffer? Torp meme? Can you think of a use case?

[bold salmon]

centaur good augment?

[silk sphinx]

Laughable. Well still fine

Upgrade over the purple augment, but puts a faction requirement for 3 hms ships

[stark quiver]

her augment is just faction buff?

[silk sphinx]

The stats alone are something around 1 digit% buff over the purple

[keen sable]

there's no faction buff...

[stark quiver]

oh faction requirement

[silk sphinx]

So get it if you’re a centaur fan

But I can’t say it’ll be great, or that you should make use of that faction requirement

[dim summit]

i've bought the 3 ur prints from opsi shop and need 3 more for wyvern, how else can i get them? abyssals haven't been dropping any so far

[forest palm]

if I were to use Centaur I'd just use the standard stuff, it really isn't worth the rare resources to give her, her augment

[keen sable]

exchange. wyvern rush involves a reset

[dim summit]

exchange?

[silk sphinx]

Vouchers. Do you know what those are?

[loud rover]

are the DR catchups individual? like how if you pick one DR to catchup on you cant select the others

[shell willow]

individual

[silk sphinx]

You can use both

[forest palm]

DR catch up is 150 a piece

[shell willow]

like you can get 150 for each

[silk sphinx]

Just not at the same time.

The golds are a pool of 300. Each DR gets 150

[silk sphinx]

A lot of Stuff you get in opsi turns into vouchers at the end of the month, which you can then exchange for stuff

[dim summit]

ohhh that ok

[silk sphinx]

See exchange shop bottom left. No red arrows unfortunately

[dim summit]

got it ty

[silk sphinx]

Alpha are you making fun of me for how little it is?

[stark quiver]

man i have 300

[blazing shale]

Do we know if PR7 rainbow plane gud

[silk sphinx]

It’s good

[remote yarrow]

It's the best fighter against light and med iirc It was med and heavy

[warm flax]

Brest > Ancho here?

[silk sphinx]

Med and heavy, loses to hvar on light

[remote yarrow]

oh right Hvar exists mb

[silk sphinx]

I’d probably just try this? you can keep Brest on mob

[silk helm]

😂 i have 17

[orchid tulip]

I don't understand this part at all about the shops in the Opsi wiki, no matter how many items I buy the slots never refill or change. What is this 3 days thing?

[soft raft]

that only applies if you havent unlocked the monthly reset yet

[orchid tulip]

aah ok thx, I didn't want to miss on anything

[silk sphinx]

Oh wow not updated yet

[orchid tulip]

Also, this bit about strongholds. Does this mean that I should let the siren retake the node so I can get a bonus of 200-400 tokens?

[silk sphinx]

Doesn’t make a difference, kill her before and the chest will still drop

[spring bolt]

retake or not, doesn't do any difference. the point is to kill the intruder and token will drop

[orchid tulip]

oh nice, thanks

[silk sphinx]

Not sure if it actually retaking your node even does anything other than make it look like you lost 20% control tbh

[spring bolt]

never observed any difference other than the 20% thing

[inland shoal]

Well it also makes those red stone barrier thingies look a bit different even after you retake it iirc

[spring bolt]

great visual effect

[echo adder]

Whats the bot command to check best equips for a ship?

[soft raft]

/equip but if you were looking for specific ship to ship reqs, ECTL (but only in the context of campaign)

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[echo adder]

Uhhh i was trying to find best equips for prinz eugen

[soft raft]

Like I said, ECTL (tho 99% of the time the majority of ships within a hulltype share the same template)
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/main/ca?ship=prinz_eugen

[echo adder]

I remember there used to be a command to check best loadout for each ship

[soft raft]

afaik such a command has never existed

[remote yarrow]

There's no "best loadout" either since loadouts are dependent on content

So check out ectl's recommendations or read sam's guide linked above

[eternal moth]

Did Mebot ever decide on what numbers to use for Napoli's tankiness?

[slow fox]

Mebot mentioned

[remote yarrow]

Wasn't it like 147?

[slow fox]

6.5 second smoke per smoke.

[remote yarrow]

oh that's way higher

[slow fox]

Chinawall competitor

[eternal moth]

And what's Agir again?

[slow fox]

160

[eternal moth]

Jesus

[slow fox]

2 Portlands in Thicc AND in eHP

insta-ring

[eternal moth]

Yeah, I have a few rings in the bank, so she'll probably get one

How does her damage compare to Ply?

[slow fox]

Damage mentioned

[patent pivot]

i was going to run dmg today but i got sidetracked with stuff and things, hopefully tomorrow unless i get i sidetracked again

[slow fox]

epic

[inland shoal]

Wait why 6.5 now?

[silk sphinx]

Wait wasn’t it 5.5s?

[patent pivot]

jesus fuck, she is thicc

[slow fox]

Are you three a hivemind or something

[inland shoal]

Most disagreeable hivemind ever

[silk sphinx]

One of us is saying she is thicc nothing on 5.5s

[slow fox]

0.5s in original smoke.

Proccing once every 0.5s for 5.1s gives an additional 6s...because each canister lasts 1 second.

6 + 0.5 = 6.5

[silk sphinx]

As for me and thorin, ich kann deutsch sprechen und ich komme auch aus Deutschland ja

[patent pivot]

i honestly dont remember anything about napoli other than she has a long smoke skill and lots of auxs

ich kann spreche deutche aus!

[silk sphinx]

Auch* I think

[patent pivot]

meine deutche ist nicht so gut

[inland shoal]

[frigid linden]

Does the UR exchange only work on permanent UR?

[slow fox]

diese komentar sektion es uhhh eigentnum!?!? of Blundesrepublik Deutchland

[remote yarrow]

~~Are we speaking our mother language now? ~~

[patent pivot]

meine schlange ist sehr groß

[silk sphinx]

No sorry just trolling. Mebot said we were a hivemind so I pretended to be German like Thorin

I kenne ein bisschen deutsch

[uncut oar]

Mebot says napoli damage mentioned but I tried searching up history and am missing it, can somebody give me a rough summary again? (iirc due to 3 mgm she hits like a truck)

[slow fox]

Oh I mean Damage Mentioned (when asked of it), and my response to that was

[patent pivot]

ich kann koch kuchen in die kuche

[inland shoal]

Anyway no
Proc normal smoke for 5s
At the same time proc her smoke can throwing fiesta that lasts 5.1s
So 0-.5 base smoke, throw fuel at .5, 1 ,1.5 , 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, lasts until 6, so 6 seconds total in smoke

[remote yarrow]

Mebot only likes beeffy numbers not dmg numbers

[inland shoal]

And please stop speaking German in here

[wide marsh]

If I run Zeppelin should I use Ju87-C (diver) instead of purple helldiver or golden me155 instead of golden F6F? What will do better at w12-1?

[slow fox]

Ah, at the SAME TIME

I get it

Aaand we're back to pre 190

[uncut oar]

I'm asking generally v.v she does have a ghost gun for which I haven't seen effs, not sure what that means for her dmg outside of fuelsmoke where she has 2x170 CL gun on CA FP and becomes truck

[inland shoal]

All the info is in the datamine

[silk sphinx]

App it’s a dd gun

[inland shoal]

The ghost gun doesn't have slot efficiency cuz it's technically a skill and not a ghost gun

[silk sphinx]

Not buffed by smoke though so idk how good it is

[uncut oar]

I'll look again, most likely blind moment

Yeah I brought up ghost gun bc I was wondering about non-fuelsmoke damage

[silk sphinx]

Wait aren’t ghost guns pretty much just skills?

[inland shoal]

No

[terse grail]

So i have a ton of extra dock space. Is there any reason to keep a dupe Perseus or is that of no value? I thought I might be able to use 2 at once for something.

[inland shoal]

Skill = Trigger barrage every second, if you give your ship 3 bazillion reload that will still be 1s
Ghost gun = Have an additional hidden weapon slot that has a specific weapon equipped with a specific slot efficiency. If your ship has 3 bazillion rld it will shoot uhh often

[pliant plover]

think of them as extra equip slots

[undone plover]

She only needs 1 german plane
I would just use a ju87 for torp slot

[inland shoal]

Keep for different skin is kinda of the only use (Or keep as dupe and cope for retro)

[silk sphinx]

I mean, the game treats ghost guns a little like skills, I’ve heard gun mounts being treated like that too in fact

[wide marsh]

I screwed up with my question again. I dont have torpedo stukas. Only bad divebomber

[remote yarrow]

Holy, Perseus retro is copius maximus

[terse grail]

I probably won't use 2 Perseus for utility? Ah I guess I'll remove her

[silk sphinx]

From a code perspective

[wide marsh]

corrected

[terse grail]

Thanks for the help

[undone plover]

Oh….
Then run any german plane u have
Bf109 might also work
Her fighter slots are the weakest anyway
Ngl I forgot what I ran for her back in the day

[uncut oar]

Ah, in barrage section because technically 1s barrage

Is coeff a flat multiplier to damage?

[remote yarrow]

That's in general btw, keeping dupes after MLB doesn't have any use other than displaying different skins

[pliant plover]

they arent skills, the game treats them as skill only in description of said skills they are an extra equip slot that dont appear.
Something like when u use the shimanto CL gun, ur ship will have and extra AA gun equiped that dont appear but is still calculated on the average AA atk speed and AA range of atk

[inland shoal]

Uhh no, ghost guns are their own thing and defined in a special section of the ship template. Though the devs did add skills and call them ghost gun before.
And the thing about gun mounts was maybe BBs? Cuz "all" BBs only have 1 main gun mount and instead use skills to fire more often (The only reason we get that awkward random aim on 2nd and 3rd volley btw)

[silk sphinx]

I do actually know this

[uncut oar]

Okay so... 6x4 SAP, 1.05 eff... would I be correct in thinking napoli "ghost gun" is like... half a SAP DD gun?

[wide marsh]

I'm not sure if gold F6F + helldiver + stuka-C will do better than gold Me-155 and two helldivers.

[silk sphinx]

Yep that’s what it sounded like

And yep specifically bbs, vanguard mounts worked differently iirc

[inland shoal]

Yeah it's exclusive to BBs (and BCs and BBVs... you get the idea)

[undone plover]

Between those options I would take the former tbh
Gold me155 is a meme plane
Stuka at least has bombs

[uncut oar]

Is there actually ever a world where messershit has any use?

[undone plover]

Mvp control

[silk sphinx]

Well you can get some coin and plates from scrapping it

[wide marsh]

12-13 maybe? Lots of planes there

[remote yarrow]

Probably in a "I will use bad gear" world

[silk sphinx]

Oh and for cross fleeting ig

[uncut oar]

Yeah that's like what I expect

[silk sphinx]

It’s still a gold plane avi stat even at plus0

[uncut oar]

I'm sorry, I think the answer is a resounding "no".

[silk sphinx]

Thank you still for trying to help, even if I wasn’t satisfied with your answer

As for thorin, we’re the same person so I don’t need to thank him

[pliant plover]

Im not that nerd enough to know much about the game, but i wish there was a better ingame description of barrages/AoA showing their pattern, damage, scalling and things like that for ghost guns too

[frigid linden]

Should I buy equipment in core shop or ships?

[remote yarrow]

You almost never buy any ship besides Indep, have you checked /coredata over at #bot-spam tho?

[frigid linden]

I haven’t, lemme check

I guess I don’t have to buy Independence since I already have Saratoga, Enterprise, Unicorn and Shinano

[remote yarrow]

2 Unicorns

[frigid linden]

mistake

[whole crypt]

Independence is still nice to have but if you're not in a hurry then get shells first

[remote yarrow]

She's still a pretty good CV regardless

[soft raft]

she's still good
would use her instead of Saratoga for natural desync in mobbing

And later on she's CV RLD Tech

[remote yarrow]

But get your 2 or 3 pairs of shells first I guess

[eager mulch]

smh you dont have two unicorns?

[remote yarrow]

I may have retired a few a couple minutes ago

[eager mulch]

[forest palm]

using Unicorn is kind of cringe

[eager mulch]

real men use NC in W15

[spring bolt]

i do have 2 and i used the 0lb one a lot more than the max one

[whole crypt]

did I get the eHP right for spots

[inland shoal]

For a sec I thought you meant to ask if they did have 109%, 112% amd 111% ehp

Who is that even, Hunter?

No Hunter was the other one, I forgot her name

[whole crypt]

Carabiniere

[midnight bluff]

For opsi, is there a cap to our adaptive tuning stats or can we raise it to like 300 and mow down hard mode boss

[whole crypt]

203 is the highest amount that will do anything

[forest palm]

203/203/156 is the cut off

[midnight bluff]

ok thx

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[bronze crane]

I’m new and I need help

[eternal moth]

Hmm. Guam or Sandy to carry low-level BBs through 12-4

[fluid compass]

If im collecting XP for priority ships, do the ships I'm collecting with have to be lvl 100?

[eternal moth]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[fluid compass]

Cool, thanks.

[silk sphinx]

probably sandy, guam is likelier to steal mvp. you may have to gimp a little

[eternal moth]

With Sandy's augment both will, I'm not worried about that

[silk sphinx]

it's 12-4, both are overkill

worse case just book them

[eternal moth]

I'm already 1/4 through XP farm for Nakh, I just figured I'd make it even more braindead easy

I have plenty of oil, plus the weekly pack still to get

Wait, VIT-2 is a converging TB, not parallel?

[tulip zenith]

is halford broken

[eternal moth]

Why?

[tulip zenith]

idk like are the air strikes cv level

[viscid swift]

of course not

[tulip zenith]

dang

[eternal moth]

She has half the AVI of a CV, so no

[tulip zenith]

is it more like a ddg type thing

[eternal moth]

It's different

The seaplane replaces her AA gun

[whole crypt]

he's leveling low BBs, they're not going to MVP regardless and Sandy is still going to get MVP anyway

Halford also only adds to less than half the plane count of a carrier with limited armament

[sweet merlin]

What is the command for research lab priority?

[soft raft]

/research

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[sweet merlin]

I could have sworn the command did not work in bot-spam

[oak cipher]

In the training Series 2, it's asking me to clear 8-4/9-4/10-4 but I've already clear them and played them again, and it won't complete the task, am I missing something ?

[shell willow]

are they 3 starred?

[viscid swift]

try logging out and back in again

[shell willow]

it might be that

[viscid swift]

also did you complete the PR1 missions twice?

[oak cipher]

Just completed PR1 mission

[viscid swift]

ah, you need to do them again before moving onto the PR2 ones

[soft raft]

And if you're wondering why, it was a bug that was later turned into a feature

[oak cipher]

Just logged back and they are completed

Thanks @viscid swift

[tidal python]

Is Kronstahdt better for Mobbing or Boss fleets?

[glossy spear]

Does PR series 1,2,3, or 4 have the best ship?

[soft raft]

she can work in both, doesnt really matter

[whole crypt]

should I take cruiser officer or cruiser EVA for last talent on a Lime

[remote yarrow]

Define "the best ship"

[kind slate]

How long does it take to get a dr ship to dev 30? It feels like forever since I started collecting bps for ply

[silver lintel]

If you are taking good researches around 3-4 months

Not counting cubing

[sweet merlin]

Which subs to use?

[worldly pewter]

why did u start ply before pr4 DRs ?

[glossy spear]

Best battleship to be a flagship

[whole crypt]

not counting cubing you can do a new series in 2-3 months, more if old series with FS

[stark quiver]

and thats for one ship? or all

[whole crypt]

whole series

[silver lintel]

Get albacore, use archerfish flasher albacore

[sweet merlin]

Where do i get albacore

[kind slate]

I’ve got them all at least dev30 except marco

[remote yarrow]

I'm just gonna say this
PR1 is forgettable and mostly for Tech
PR2 has FdG which is a pretty good BB is you don't have any other UR BBs
PR3 has Cheshire if you are missing AA I guess
Every ship but Marco in PR4 is pretty good
Your priorities should be
FdG > Anchorage > Agir > rest of PR4
You can do other ships here and there ofc

[whole crypt]

the only efficient way to finish any single ship in a research series is to finish the whole series

[silver lintel]

Merit shop

[remote yarrow]

Merit shop, pray for rng

[stark quiver]

im just taking any face researches i see right now, DRs prioritized

[worldly pewter]

u didn't notice how long it took u to do it or did it take u more than u thought ?

[whole crypt]

which is good

[kind slate]

3-4 months for whole series’s???? I’m just starting to realise how shit I am at choosing researches. I’ve spent like 2 months on ply alone wtf

[glossy spear]

Oh ok thanks

[kind slate]

I used a fair number of bps from events and stuff so I wanted to know how much you get all from scratch/research

[whole crypt]

I finished Hindenburg as my last PR6 last November while taking rigging analysis

[remote yarrow]

But before focusing Research I suggest you get to W12 first and give this a read also https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research
And please don't use Combat Data Packs for the exp missions, analyze all of them

[worldly pewter]

i have been focusing pr4 from march
i m still not done from it

[remote yarrow]

How are you so slow

[whole crypt]

it'll take 4-5 months if it's an old series with FS so if you're close to done now you're fine

[worldly pewter]

i don't take G ones

[forest palm]

6 at most, anything more than that, and you are the problem

[remote yarrow]

It took me like 3 1/2 months even before coining

[stark quiver]

if im faced with 3 options 1.5. 2.5 and 4 hour G researches, which one to take

[whole crypt]

that's assuming no coining of course

[worldly pewter]

1.5

[whole crypt]

if all same series prioritize 1.5 for ship 4hr for gear

[stark quiver]

noted thanks

[worldly pewter]

yeah i think if someone has enough coins can take G so in my position where coins are kinda in a massive need i had to sac them
but if someone gets Gs and still can't be done in the usual duration i think it might be due to some sus choices

[whole crypt]

well depends on what you're picking when there' s no faces if you don't take G's

[worldly pewter]

i take Q

[whole crypt]

that's fine too I guess

but PR4 is slightly sus for that if you're done with at least one non-shop Tenrai

[stark quiver]

im tryna speedrun ship bps so i just take G

[worldly pewter]

i ended up by having more than a tenrai while not being done from the series

[whole crypt]

it's both a blessing and a curse I suppose

[kind slate]

Wtffffff. What is wrong with meeee.
So if I want to complete ships as fast as possible, I should take h > d > everything else?

[whole crypt]

if it's PR5 you'd have more use for spare q152s, but for PR4 you kind of just don't use that many Tenrais

[remote yarrow]

If you have alot of cubes H, if not D > Q > G

[silk sphinx]

well don't take Hs unless you're cube rich (>800 cubes)

[remote yarrow]

And by a lot it's over 1000 or so

[whole crypt]

I take cube even below 800, it's just how much you're personally comfortable with

[kind slate]

I wanna finish ply and hinden then maybe start pr6?

[silk sphinx]

in your case you're an old player, reruns are just times to recoup losses. other players don't have that luxury necessarily

[whole crypt]

how about: pick either Plymouth or Hindenburg, and finish the rest of the series with that ship

[whole crypt]

fair

[kind slate]

I’ll finish ply first but, wdym “with that ship”?

Do I use ply for something?

[whole crypt]

well in that case just followthrough with finishing PR5 instead of hopping to Hindenburg

she's only like the highest DPS CL with good bulk and flag BB buff

[eager mulch]

im turtle

[kind slate]

Oh right. My grammar understanding skills are bad. Srry

[remote yarrow]

hi turtle

[worldly pewter]

yeah i think it is more time efficient to stick with 1 series
but i noticed something weird after the introduction of pr7
while i had focus on pr6 ( w15 speedrun purpose ) i was getting nothing but pr6 and pr5 and very rarely pr4 but now i see a lot of pr7 mixed with the others 4 5 6

[silk sphinx]

general advice: take D-series, preferably 2.5hs>5h>8h. > G-series or Q-series, the shorter the better. Consider taking 1h H-series if there are no D/Q series, and there are only like 4h long Gs or worse, like E or C-series.
Always take 30min researches.

the above is what i do at least initially

[kind slate]

Is it more efficient to finish a whole series then move on, or pick and choose the strongest/favourite ships?

[fluid compass]

So, other than Kaga, Akagi, and Yuudachi, what ships are exclusive stage drops? I'm sure there's a command or something for this.

[viscid swift]

the former, that why we reccomend it

[silk sphinx]

it's kind of hard to finish a single ship first, it's most efficient to finish the whole series together

[viscid swift]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/List_of_Ship_Drops

[kind slate]

Okk thnx guys. I’ll try to be wiser with research from now on.

[fluid compass]

Thanks. I wanna make my pr exp farming more fun lol

[remote yarrow]

wdym by this

[silk sphinx]

they want to farm for ships at the same time

[remote yarrow]

Are you gonna farm SR ships at the same time you are farming PR exp?

That'll end up costing some oil if below W9

[worldly pewter]

farming xp in 3-4 ?

[fluid compass]

Yeah, I intentionally skipped kaga and akagi but figure I'll just go back now and kill two birds. I'm not super concerned about efficiency

[kind slate]

Do you stop getting face researches at dev30? Or fs5?

[fluid compass]

I'm on W13

[eternal moth]

FS5

[viscid swift]

what ever max is for that ship

[remote yarrow]

Well, 3-4 doesn't really give that much exp for it to be worth bringing more than a 1:1

But you do you I guess

[warm cliff]

Hmm seem like Nakhimov is an another debuff CV and Napoli is an upgraded Drake?

[fluid compass]

Yeah, I'm alright with that.

[viscid swift]

calling Napoli an upgraded Drake is really underselling her

[forest palm]

Napoli is more of an Anchor upgrade

[viscid swift]

she's a DR Anchorage basically with damage

[remote yarrow]

That's insulting towards Napoli and a compliment for Drake

[south sequoia]

Shes anchorage and drakes love child with plymouths blessing

[night pumice]

are there any good ships in pr 1/2 besides fdg

[south sequoia]

There

[forest palm]

just Fred

[viscid swift]

nah, more like Agir and Anchorage's love child if anything

[south sequoia]

And azuma, but azuma is sort of low priority

[remote yarrow]

Chile? That's where I'm from

[silk sphinx]

Tanker and more damage

[forest palm]

of the first 3 seasons, only Cheshire, and FdG have stayed relevant

[silk sphinx]

Well, not really though tbh because ancho also has invuln

[south sequoia]

Mmm wouldn't odin count too, or the fact hood is more accessible and still powerful with aug kinda doesn't make it matter?

[whole crypt]

Napoli is what Drake should have been

[forest palm]

Hood being more accessible is why I don't include Odin

[whole crypt]

last talent on BB cat, cruiser EVA or officer

[forest palm]

Odin is still better, but since you're also getting FdG there's not much need for her

[silk sphinx]

She still has the unique thing of sticking in front of flag though

[sweet merlin]

How to get torps for subs?

[viscid swift]

that's more of a gimmick than something of practical value though

[silk sphinx]

I forgot she existed earlier today so kind of

[whole crypt]

sub raid in daily raids (which is actually weekly)

[forest palm]

when I look at PR as a whole FdG, Cheshire, August, Agir, Haku, Anchor, Plymouth, Harbin, Brest, Shimanto, Kears, Napoli, and Nyakhimov are the only ships I'd truly value

[warm cliff]

[night pumice]

so only ones I should bother with in 1/2/3 are chesire, fdg, possibly azuma

[silk sphinx]

You still value cheshire?

[remote yarrow]

Nah Azuma is kinda meh even for a DR

[whole crypt]

could I get an opinion on this

[stark quiver]

grinding 12-1 for both cdc for napoli, how much oil would it take? is there an estimate

[forest palm]

Guam isn't widely available, so ya Cheshire stays relevant until she's truly power crepts by something that is readily available

[silk sphinx]

Bb officer?

[pseudo hearth]

I'd argue that depends on how many CBs they have.

[stark quiver]

id personally take cruiser eva so they have a chance of not dying last second

[remote yarrow]

I mean you got Anchor and Agir which are pretty decent for 2 fleets

[whole crypt]

cat already has soul/flame/FP/officer, this is like the last 2 levels with no good options

[forest palm]

I don't value Azuma because there's so many ships that are widely available, and SSR CAs that have been releasing are starting to match her, so the only real argument for Azuma is that she's coin-able

[silk sphinx]

Man… officer then

[worldly pewter]

can i ask about hinden ?

[silk sphinx]

They forgot

[forest palm]

lack of utility, and most anyone can do her job, even if she's the strongest at that job you won't necessarily need it

[whole crypt]

when I look at PR as a whole I only value ships that still stay in my OS fleets which tend to be vanguards

[sweet merlin]

Is the new drs good?

[viscid swift]

have you even finished PR4 yet

[eternal moth]

We don't know HOW good yet, but Napoli is possibly the best tank in the game now

[whole crypt]

unless AA

[pseudo hearth]

They always tend to be. We'll need to wait for people to max them out before we know how good they are though.

[eager mulch]

cheeky what anime did you pause?

[silk sphinx]

Arguable. She has no invincibility

[eternal moth]

Looking at Napoli from a combination tankiness and damage perspective, she's really strong. As mentioned, her AA is lacking behind someone like Guam

[whole crypt]

best tank in the game now *outside of specific cases and niches

[forest palm]

best general tank to me is Agir...

[sweet merlin]

Really? Infront of my ancorage?

[eternal moth]

She's Anchorage++

[whole crypt]

nothing tanks better than Anchorage for 2 seconds

[silk sphinx]

Well tbh napoli might not replace ancho in pvp

[pseudo hearth]

I mean, Anchorage is a PR, Napoli is a DR. It makes sense

[sweet merlin]

Why?

[whole crypt]

I've stopped using Anchorage for PvP for months already

[eager mulch]

2 seconds of immunity

[pseudo hearth]

Anchorage has long since left PVP LOL

[silk sphinx]

Breaking her shield makes her invincible for a little

[whole crypt]

she's still there for some people who want to play stall

[silk sphinx]

Still one of the top pvp vanguards, she’s returned somewhat

[pseudo hearth]

Eh

[whole crypt]

I say some.

[silk sphinx]

Personally I play aggressive vg, never lost even once since alsace incoming (jintsuum shima laffii )

[kind slate]

Are all series5 ships worth building? I don’t have enough sadegna points for chkalov yet

[whole crypt]

but #pvp , move along

[forest palm]

would honestly love to see a more mordern take on JdA's kit on a stronger ship

[whole crypt]

what Bayard could have been

[forest palm]

isn't Bayard a Neptune adjacent?

[whole crypt]

based on?

[forest palm]

kits

[whole crypt]

what kits

[silk sphinx]

Chkalov is a great mobber you may not necessarily need, and ruppy as a back line unit is not matching up to UR options

[viscid swift]

what exactly are you planning and what's the current state of PR for from 4 to 6

[forest palm]

talking about skills

[whole crypt]

she seemed barrage heavy

[stark quiver]

if i use 125 ships to grind pr xp, do they give less than if i just used lvl 90's

[whole crypt]

I kind of ehhh'd on the defensive parts of her skill

[kind slate]

I was told that completing whole series, then moving on is most efficient.
I’ve got all pr4 except marco, got ply dev27, harbin fs4, shimanto dev30. I’ve got hinden and Kear but dev5

[viscid swift]

they don't give less but using maxed ships to grind is super wasteful

[viscid swift]

yes
what's the state of PR4, 5 and 6 for you as a whole

[whole crypt]

they get less if you've stopped putting them in dorm

[viscid swift]

that can and will dictate what season you should be focusing right now

unlocking here is irrelevant frankly, all that matters is blueprint count

because you don't need to actually use the blueprints to knock a ship's face researches from the pool, you just need to have the BPs to do so

[kind slate]

Oh right. Should I list them all here?

[stark quiver]

nice, so around what % should i get with 3 requirement ships, + 2x thing and in w12-1

[kind slate]

State of pr4,5,6

[viscid swift]

I was getting 5% for every 3 runs of 12-1 without HELP in 12-1 for Napoli

[whole crypt]

finished Nakhimov CDC1 in 10x3 sets of 12-1

[silk sphinx]

I’m not in a rush like you people, still finishing off my current vg tech

[stark quiver]

huh, so with help, around 10% nice, i just need the oil, i have 4k rn and 3k in storage

[silk sphinx]

You don’t need to rush, again it’s the blueprints that matter

[earnest flare]

is there a list of cv rld tech ships anywhere

[silk sphinx]

Rush all you want you ain’t going to be able to use her earlier

[whole crypt]

I'm not rushing, I'm just leveling my vanguard fodder while doing it

[viscid swift]

the IB CVLs only give CVL reload tech

[calm cradle]

Whatre peoples initial thoughts on Halford? A DD with planes sounds so janky to me, but I guess that's more aggressive/dps than having AA?

[eternal moth]

She's ok

[whole crypt]

is floatbear any good at AA?

[cunning bolt]

What fleet types are good for getting through ch15?

[whole crypt]

#bot-spam /w15

[elfin hollow]

It good than Izumo gun ?

[cunning bolt]

Oki

[stark quiver]

in summary, a lot of AA

but read guide

[cunning bolt]

[whole crypt]

not rushing, it just happens when your grind fleet looks like this

[spring bolt]

exactly same as mine, backline part

[forest palm]

took me I think 15, or so 3x to finish Napoli CDC1

honestly lost count

[whole crypt]

10 at 12-1 if with morale

[forest palm]

that would work out for a main fleet

vanguard gets less

[calm cradle]

is there an official place to find the loadscreen arts? Or anywhere before they get added to the wiki

[sweet delta]

Only if official media accounts post it

[calm cradle]

huh, okay. ty

[forest palm]

check JP AL twitter

[earnest flare]

can you get meta ships to level 120 without LB

[whole crypt]

eh if vanguard then about 60% more

since main fleet with flag MVP is getting 5 ships worth compared to 3 if vanguard without MVP

[loud rover]

out of curiosity, what's with the vanguard being who they are?

[vale spindle]

They are uss ships under level 120

Never mind i mean they are vanguard ships under lvl 120

[forest palm]

tech fodder is all you have to say

[stark quiver]

isnt that kent

[sweet delta]

[loud rover]

oh tech fodder, yeah i should do that too grinding cdcs lol

[whole crypt]

yeh it's just fodder

[spring bolt]

just do mvp control in ch 12

[whole crypt]

when it's Napoli's turn I'll probably swap to vodka/pasta vanguard fodder instead

[forest palm]

I've run out of SN, and RN tech

not in the business of grinding ASW, or EVA tech for DD

[stark quiver]

another research question, if there are 2 face researches, one if blue 2.5h and other is purple 5h, should i take purple

[viscid swift]

DR or PR?

[whole crypt]

not exactly a long list of ships left to level for doing Napoli

[stark quiver]

both dr

[silk sphinx]

is it napoli or nakhimov? just take purple then

[viscid swift]

I would take the 5 H

[stark quiver]

how abt pr

[spring bolt]

5 if dr, ignore both if pr in most cases

[silk sphinx]

i would rather get the two DRs earlier at the cost of PR later

[viscid swift]

for PR I would take the 2.5 H

[eager mulch]

cube research time

deleted message city

[stark quiver]

i got stuck with only one face in the rotation and it was a 5h daisen, so i jsut did that

[silk sphinx]

gud enuf

[whole crypt]

I would rather get the DRs and PRs later to get more La9s earlier

[undone plover]

If u plan on staying in pr7 for gear u could take Q and G research over PR face

[silk sphinx]

I want my napoli asap

[eager mulch]

if i see a face i take it, if there’s only one face and it’s a gold 8hr im still taking it, not gonna be a significant time loss in the grand scheme of things

[stark quiver]

im going back to pr6 after 7

[spring bolt]

pr face is usually very low priority imo

[eager mulch]

yes I took an 8hr daisen what will you do about it

[stark quiver]

im like 10 prints off of a hinden gun

[remote yarrow]

I think turtle likes faces

[silk sphinx]

still going to slow you down by a week or two with great luck

[stark quiver]

i predict ill have the bps for each ship but no ship

[eager mulch]

ok but this is a girl gacha game it’s not the end of the world

[keen sable]

it's not very gatchay

[stark quiver]

mfw earth explodes after turtle takes 8h face

[viscid swift]

meanwhile in WoWs T7 ranked

[eager mulch]

atlanta time my guy

[remote yarrow]

Hey turtle I ditched Shima for Kleber

[eager mulch]

fast rat

[remote yarrow]

I see I'm a rat regardless

[viscid swift]

meh, I eat Atlantas and Flints alive in Nelson

[eager mulch]

as a cruiser main all dds are rats

[remote yarrow]

We about to get bonked soon ™️

[eager mulch]

nah I’d win

ok off topic convo done

[tired condor]

wow northern parliament ships in shipyard very cool

[remote yarrow]

Got any questions?

[tired condor]

why they so ugly

[soft raft]

[remote yarrow]

[light trail]

[stark quiver]

ask artist

[remote yarrow]

idk ask the artist? that's subjective and maybe not a conversation for gph?

[tidal meteor]

[tired condor]

did they make any more ships coinable

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[light trail]

how many tenrai do i want again, ideally?

[remote yarrow]

It takes a couple of months after a new season is added for an old one to be coinable

[stark quiver]

at least 2

[eager mulch]

i use 2 personally

[stark quiver]

i only need 2, cuz haku nano

[light trail]

okok, i should have a second one by the time haku is done then

[tidal meteor]

I use one for Haku and the other I just swap around my other CVs

[stark quiver]

if something calls for a third tenrai, then i just use a Bb problem solved

[tidal meteor]

Alternatively, ideally 6; 2 each for Lex, Sara and Chkalov

[worldly pewter]

i thought the 2.5 has a slight more efficiency over the 5h

[remote yarrow]

That sounds like way too many

[wind hazel]

nothing is too many

[viscid swift]

I'm taking the longer DR face research for better consistency

[light trail]

are there no situations where multiple carriers want to have one?

[viscid swift]

Well current meta set ups use 2 max

Not much more if at all for campaign as well

Not to mention it'll be added to the gear lab in about 6 months anyway

So going for any more now is rather a waste of research time

[light trail]

well im still stuck in pr4 for like a couple months at least i think

[viscid swift]

Newer players still want 1 from research for the time being

[light trail]

i wish DR catchups gave more prints

[tidal meteor]

Yeah personally I'm sticking with PR7 research till pr8 next year; need to get as many La-9s as I can

[worldly pewter]

take ur time there is no race in this game

[light trail]

im a lot more chill about it this time around dw

[urban lynx]

Is it ok to farm for the black torp aux while I get exp for pr ships at the same time?

[worldly pewter]

i don't think that thing has a practical use now

if u want to have it spend some core data imo

[jaunty vault]

its got practical use for pvp

[stark quiver]

i use it for torp meme

[urban lynx]

Don't have enough and have to build some bbs

[jaunty vault]

its alright to farm archives if you dont have much coredata but it could take time to farm enough prints

[urban lynx]

[woeful token]

The Datamine said Halford's Tiny Tim having Bearcats are 325 damage 50-110-130 right?

[eager mulch]

sure

if that’s what the datamine reads

[woeful token]

How does that compare to the FW-190s with the pGR-27s?

[alpine pawn]

Might sound dumb but I'm trying to progress the story but after getting 50% on 3-3 it's saying I have to clear SP2. I don't recall this in the past when I've played before and also what SP2?

[hollow sail]

no, different numbers

[eager mulch]

picture?

[alpine pawn]

just a sec I started a run on 3-2 let me quit out real quick

... okay what is going on with this game for me?

now it's letting me run the map again

[fluid compass]

Hey, so as far as the character rankings and best gear recommendations go, is the community tier list on Github a decent source?

[soft raft]

Generally yes
at most for campaign only
And be sure to read the tiering guidelines and the gear descriptions

[alpine pawn]

alright nevermind it's not letting me run it like I thought. Now it's asking me this again:

[tulip ibex]

In little academy event, was there a dorm furniture set?

[eager mulch]

by my shitty paper maths, bearcats better vs heavy only but it’s not like you can equip the planes in the same slot

[soft raft]

are you doing a War Archive map?

[fluid compass]

Alright, thanks. I use it to help with constructing teams and for choosing the right gear.

[remote yarrow]

Wait you said 3-3 campaign right?

[soft raft]

idk
I dont think so
and honestly nor do I really care

[remote yarrow]

If that's the case just restart your game

[alpine pawn]

like as in running one currently? No.

[woeful token]

I'm more just curious how they'd perform if we got normal Tiny Tim Bearcats. Not just the seaplane.

[silk sphinx]

? only war archive maps need data keys

[remote yarrow]

If that appears when trying to play Campaign restart your game

iirc it happened to some other guy a week ago

[alpine pawn]

I hope just restarting it is the case. this game is driving me nuts with how it's acting sometimes

[alpine pawn]

Thank you. Restarting was all I needed. Hope they fix whatever is causing that, that'll get annoying if it happens constantly

[soft raft]

could be a emulator specific thing cuz I've never seen that bug on the regular app

[remote yarrow]

If you are using emulator which one is it?

Cuz iirc the other guy was using BS

[silk sphinx]

from a quick look doesn't seem like it

[alpine pawn]

I'm using nox

[remote yarrow]

[silk sphinx]

the newest dorm set is the one from alsace's event

i recommend LDPlayer but that's besides the point

I've heard bad things about nox too

and some say LDPlayer is easier to run than BS

[remote yarrow]

Yeah, if it keeps happening maybe switch Emulator, I haven't had any weird bugs with LDPlayer

[silk sphinx]

LDPlayer has a pretty universally good reputation

[tulip ibex]

I see, Thanks

[mighty forum]

Is there a way to increase affinity with a ship other than to take them to battle?

[remote yarrow]

I found the same problem and it seems to be a problem with Nox #gameplay-help message

[alpine pawn]

yeah I've debated moving to another emulator for a while now just never did so yet. Did a little research on which to use when I first built my pc and just stuck with nox ever since

[silk helm]

dorm

[steady beacon]

Secretary slot 1 can give passive affinity up to 90
Also uh... tapping the hearts in dorm

[silk sphinx]

Don’t they give something like 0.1 affinity though

Nope. It’s 0.016

[stark quiver]

if you dont mind shit fps you can use now.gg in browser

[eager mulch]

you can push past 90 aff from secretary slot with some events

[mighty forum]

Ah, no wonder Hammann has a crush on me despite the fact that I never sent her to battle.

[remote yarrow]

That sounds cursed ngl

[alpine pawn]

nah that sounds terrible lol but thank you for the recommendation regardless