gameplay-help

[turbid dawn]

Like I said I can agree she's very much tankier but Hinden has perma +3MGM at 130% and CA guns are better then CL guns, right?

[whole crypt]

then Shimanto is nice but not a huge priority if you want to work on another ship first

[tranquil saffron]

I'm not really worried about my mob fleet for w15 but I don't have a ton of good ships so I'm worried my second fleet is going to be too weak

[whole crypt]

well you don't put Guam, Laffey II and Sandy all in your mob fleet then

[whole crypt]

we don't know how much DPS she'll actually have until practically tested, but if she does turn out to have Plymouth~Hindenburg DPS you still have to consider her eHP is probably even higher than Agir

[crimson glacier]

and hindy cant tank

[turbid dawn]

Yeah ture, that's why I don't think she'll be an upgrade, just a sidegrade, say for something like this current meta she'd be better then Hinden for lets say you wanna do CM you'd just want the higher dmg of Hinden or Unzen

[crimson glacier]

idk, looks better in general than hinden

[whole crypt]

CM doesn't just straight up want higher damage, CM depends on that month's gimmick

[silver lintel]

Shimanto is rly nice to have against bb node with her burn extinguish

You will have much easier time with her in w15

[crisp estuary]

[turbid dawn]

I was thinking too, she's deffo gonna be lower dmg, because not only 75% of the time it's deffo gonna be lower, but she only gets stronger when the second SS deploys right, and unless it fills the whole field she won't be perma inside it

[whole crypt]

she's going to be in the smoke 100% when smoke is up

[crimson glacier]

theres more to the game than just dmg

[turbid dawn]

If you manual, sure

[crimson glacier]

no?

[whole crypt]

did you actually read her skill?

[south sequoia]

The smoke is following her

[crimson glacier]

i mean i did say that he didnt look at napoli at all

[boreal oriole]

Atm she looks extremely durable we'll see soon her Dmg numbers .

[south sequoia]

Shes deploying that smoke onto herself

[whole crypt]

like when her smoke goes up at start and every 20s she literally dumps smoke on herself every 0.5s

she is basically at 0 risk of leaving her own smoke for both EVARate and her gun damage

[south sequoia]

Not to mention she has 2 aoas and a ca gun to still be blasting with
She has a lot of sources and is very flexible

[whole crypt]

yeh the 150% CA slot is still pretty much standard fare

[boreal oriole]

A smoke too for teamamtes. Hindenburg on suicide watch rn

[whole crypt]

not going to lie Napoli is probably replacing Hindenburg in my mob fleet once she's ready

the question is just whether Hindenburg gets any job back in the boss fleet

[south sequoia]

Sure, she may not be constantly blasting millions of damage like hindenburg, but all the qualities napoli has in her disposal gives her a lot more room to breathe

[inner delta]

if she doesn't die then 3 mgm dps still will be valuable

the problem is she is just average tanky, so most hard hitting shit just kills her really fast compared to smoke and all

[whole crypt]

if the average is Portland she's below average

[inner delta]

well w/e "average"

[whole crypt]

but yeh, Hidnenburg is kind of flimsy for anything high vanguard pressure, makes it a bit of a flip of the coin whether she can fit in a showdown fleet

[inner delta]

like w/e the average my point stil stand

unless she lives then value do be deminishing because if napoli dps is pretty close and survival ofc gonna be just generally more usefull overall

[whole crypt]

also helps your other vanguard survivability, if Harbin smoke against Wichita M is any indication

[inner delta]

yeah

[whole crypt]

also nothing stops you from using both her and Hindenburg for even more damage

[undone plover]

Would LA-9 be used vs heavy or is it similar to the fockewulf where intercept has higher value?

[uncut oar]

Just so I understand it correctly, is Napoli special smoke buff making her CL guns 2x140% or 2x170%?

(as in, whether it's a flat 100% or if it's 100% of eff)

[inner delta]

i mean same thing with bf too, if your timing with it good then if you can keep cv hidden then it's better for dmg

there's like no point using it if you can't sync scenario

[blissful hamlet]

does this mean the other NP slow can works for the entire fight even if the slow is only once like kronk crossfleet barrage?

[undone plover]

True I had not considered the timing
It is a bit slow

[blissful hamlet]

I mean does this turn nakhimov slow into a freeze for the entire fight?

[shell willow]

it says "rest of the fight"

[whole crypt]

should be +100%

as in +100% eff, not +100% of eff

[blissful hamlet]

So kronk crossfleet can permanently turn Nakhimov slow into a freeze for the rest of the fight?

[uncut oar]

Mhm mhm, I understood what you mean, thank you nnt

[shell willow]

according to that description yes, if kron slow hits enemy then they are flawed for the rest of the fight

[blissful hamlet]

That's so op

[hard mesa]

La-9 deal way more dmg compared to fw-190 and other bomber fighters so it can be used for dmg

[whole crypt]

we haven't checked the actual interaction but yes it's possible

and it would mean Nakhimov's first airstrike needs to be after Kronshtadt's crossfleet hits, i.e. doesn't work for 4-strike comps

[shell willow]

i think the first airstrike wouldnt root in that case but the rest still could, no?

[knotty garnet]

thoughts on the new PR's based on datamines?

[whole crypt]

again it's an interaction that'll need to be checked

[shell willow]

hmm i thought the simmers checked and wrote the description based on the test, but i could be wrong

[dawn hamlet]

4/5 are decents if we believe @knotty garnet

[crisp estuary]

[knotty garnet]

Daisen looks really disappointing skill wise

[crisp estuary]

You're disappointing

[whole crypt]

not like it'll matter for at least another 2 months or so for most people

[shell willow]

true

[whole crypt]

doesn't help I already took apart CV fleet for OS either

[frank pulsar]

how is la-9 dmg compared to converging torp on heavy

[whole crypt]

I'd imagine TBs still better, but you can consider La-9 for non-flex fighter slots

[echo vector]

I want to share this team comp i found, managed to do 1.35mil in my team.

[crimson glacier]

is support barrage in effect yet

[whole crypt]

nothing special, has Helena

[undone plover]

Also would sirius not be better main tanking?

[whole crypt]

should be tomorrow or Saturday

[whole crypt]

I would say yes

it's basically one of those permutations of this

[undone plover]

How many NP slows are there?
Kron, soy, chkalov

[south sequoia]

Hkw much rld needed

For cvs

[whole crypt]

I just know I'm not using Soyuz for a CV fleet and Chkalov isn't really a bossing CV, a couple of vanguards also have slow to different extents

[shell willow]

pamiat has slow too xd (tho its rng proc)

[whole crypt]

basically assume max but if 3 strike it should be okay to be missing some

didn't Tashkent Muse also have slow? no idea how that'll work out

meeting timings will more likely catch Wichita stationary I guess but fight time wise you're not likely to be missing launches even if not max RLD

[wary robin]

muse version traded snare for avi vulnerability

[whole crypt]

ah so it was OG Tashkent with slow?

[wary robin]

ye

[whole crypt]

well not like any of the "alternatives" are actually viable outside of Kronshtadt anyway

[crimson glacier]

i dont see why soyuz wouldnt work

[whole crypt]

I mean for vanguards

for main fleet Soyuz can work but kind of thinking what fleet comp will use BBCV

[opaque galleon]

If a NP cv equips the special swordfish squadron, does that count for a NP slow?

[whole crypt]

it says ship skills so I'm thinking no
even if it worked the timings would be cursed

[bright tusk]

How big is PR7 update?

[undone zephyr]

Can't believe I can use a combination of Russians and Italians for the DRs lol

[sweet merlin]

when maint finishing?

[undone plover]

3h 45 mins

[forest palm]

"approximately"

[charred pollen]

The slow should be really easy to trigger if you want to use Tashkent

[whole crypt]

Tashkent is easy to proc but she has basically no place in bossing meta

[charred pollen]

Yea

[loud rover]

Dang, got excited at Tashkent potentially having a spot for nakhimov

[worldly pewter]

is that because of the massive vanguard pressure ?

[shell willow]

with or without pressure there are way better ships than her

[undone plover]

She just brings very little to the table
When there are so many CV buffers
Or aurora
Or helena

[worldly pewter]

retrofit will make her resurface boys trust

[whole crypt]

Tashkent isn't exactly on the high end for damage or durability

[sharp comet]

pr7 so mid

[charred pollen]

#al-general

Feel like Tashkent can get some use in maybe stuff like meta fights, can free up a slot for other ships and you won’t have to use stuff like idk who else is a NP slower

[sweet merlin]

are the new gear coming out in pr7 good?

[charred pollen]

But she is very squishy so she’ll probably die fast

[kind slate]

does maint end in 3.5hrs?

[opaque galleon]

If kronk cross fleet will enable freeze, does nahkimov displace implac for yk2 kear implac?

Or does implac buffs give more value do you think?

[warm flax]

Yes

[whole crypt]

wait for testing I guess

[prime shadow]

Personally, I'm going to experiment with Nahkimov in the EU fleet. Too lazy to reequip Implacable

[plain saffron]

looks like nope

no way

they removed bbv restriction?

[boreal wagon]

they probably just put it there blindly like i said

[plain saffron]

or cn mad like i said

[boreal wagon]

they were probably still used to the status-quo they had before kear

[boreal wagon]

also plausible

[opaque galleon]

What bbv restriction?

[inner delta]

dfg said cn was neutral on it, they didn't care much

[plain saffron]

:madge:

[opaque galleon]

Also, are we sure that the torp bombers aren’t aimed lmao? Their max damage wouldn’t be much different to an aimed torp bomber, that’s kinda pathetic

[plain saffron]

it's aimed

[opaque galleon]

Oh the new torp bombers are aimed?

[plain saffron]

yes

[opaque galleon]

Awesome

Enty buffed again

Strike for strike, they’re better than ryuuseis right?

[crimson glacier]

enty and all other CVs

[undone plover]

Is this confirmed nagami?

[boreal oriole]

They did

[undone plover]

Just curious are these beta testing accounts? Thx btw

[sweet merlin]

what new gear is coming with the update?

[undone plover]

Check the datamine link in pins

[opaque galleon]

So ultimately in terms of gear, we got

minor ryuusei upgrade/timing adjust tb,
bis fighter for med/heavy,
CA gold AP gun sidegrade to other gold CA AP guns,
Musashi AP gun
Anti-medium armor CL gun (that’s probably not worth using?)
Weird bearcat

Is that accurate?

[tulip zenith]

What are SN tech points

[opaque galleon]

Also is it just me or does nahkimov barrage airstrike seem to be on the weaker end of UR cv barrages?

[sweet merlin]

for the fighter, how does it compare to the current BiS?

[wet prairie]

LA-9 = better mocket?

[sharp socket]

sardegna empire, the italians

[soft raft]

No that's RN

[sharp socket]

wat

[soft raft]

Northern Parliament

[sharp socket]

oh i see

[wet prairie]

Why is it RN not RM?

[keen sable]

You're not Italian eh?

[wet prairie]

I know it translate to Royal Navy

[sharp socket]

so SN is russian and RN is italian

[reef flume]

RN stays for "Regia Nave" which means "Royal Ship"

RM is Regia Marina which means Royal Navy

[wet prairie]

Ahh explains

The more you know

ig makes sense since Britain doesn’t use RN, it uses HMS

[opaque galleon]

But MN is marine nationale is the designation of French ships, and also the name of the naval force of France

[reef flume]

HMS means "Her Majesty Ship"

[wet prairie]

Currently His

[sharp socket]

this isnt confusing at all

[keen sable]

France is a republic...

[wet prairie]

Same same, #history

[sweet merlin]

then uss? united states ship?

[wet prairie]

Depends on which France, WW2 had two designations no?

[opaque galleon]

While IJN is imperial Japanese navy, referring once again to the force as a whole

[sharp socket]

the french in this game has MNF and FFNF

[wet prairie]

I don’t think JP uses ijn irl, like the kriegsmarine

[reef flume]

Yes

[reef flume]

JP still have an emperor even tho it's just a politic figure not an authority figure but idk if they still use IJN

[wet prairie]

IJN isn’t used anymore, it’s JS

[wet prairie]

Not that IJN was ever used in internal documents from what I know of

[keen sable]

If you're going to be wrong, go be wrong in #history

[inner delta]

you said #history but continued

[wet prairie]

Any of the new CA guns better than currently available or pending pattern?

[inner delta]

seems to be no

[wet prairie]

Wait napoli has two guns? (2x CL and a ghost gun)

[sweet merlin]

is pr7 worth doing?

[sharp socket]

has ehp man calced napoli, i heard something about a potential 180% portkai

[opaque galleon]

I believe it should be some 10% worse in heavy than the prototype 240, so it should be fairly comparable to the Baltimore gun

[sterile trout]

the datamine says she has 1 CA gun 150% eff and 2 CL 70%

[calm rose]

and one special secondary gun, yes

[twin spoke]

Should I still go for Haku first? Or does Nakhimov compete?

[sterile trout]

yeah I just read to that ghost gun part after replied : P

[viscid swift]

Pr4 still comes first for my money

After that we'll tbd

[prime shadow]

Nakh isn't competing with Haku. Haku wants to be converging torps with Shinano while Nakh is either new Soviet fleet or competing with Implacable in the support slot.

[twin spoke]

Also funny they'd now give converging torps to an Azur faction and of course make em a tiny bit better than everything else xD

[tranquil saffron]

Is nakh more support or damage focused?
Or both?

[twin spoke]

But given I got Shinano kitted out that answers my question xD

[viscid swift]

could be both depending on who you run her with

[opaque galleon]

How big of a deal is 20% crit rate and 40% crit damage? looks like around 20% increase in damage overall

Is it fair to handwave and just claim that she can do ~20% more damage than implacable, not accounting for implacable’s eva debuff for other ships?

[inland shoal]

Very much depends on your crit rate

[worldly pewter]

is this personal buff or fleet wide ?

[undone plover]

personal and the crit dmg is conditional

[inland shoal]

But the increase ranges somewhere from 18 to 40%

[opaque galleon]

What is this referring to? Comparison to implacable?

[inland shoal]

No comparison to no 20% cr and 40% cd buff

No idea how Impla dmg compares

[opaque galleon]

When does the increase reach 40%? Even assuming 0 base crit rate to begin with the increase is only around 20%

[inland shoal]

Nvm 40% was bad math

It's just up to 36%

[undone plover]

is crit dmg bonus additive?

[cloud tangle]

Gentleman, is there a compilation of good guides/video series i could use? spent like 3hrs on ytb and ended up with +- conflicting info on early game

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/

[cloud tangle]

based

[finite crag]

yea most youtube guides are just coal

[crisp estuary]

[plain saffron]

huh they probably trying to fix desync issue on daily reset

they actually force resetting everything now, i think they do before, but diff way

[opaque galleon]

My understanding is that damage increase from crit bonuses are most evident at low crit values, if you assume the absolute minimum 5% base crit rate and 150% crit damage, resulting in 102.5% damage over 0% crit, +20/+40 would mean 25%*1.9+0.75 which would be 122.5%, where did you end up getting 36%?

[sweet merlin]

7 or 9 hour maint today?

[inland shoal]

Your understanding is wrong

The max is at a base crit rate of 80%

[crisp estuary]

I don't know man, maybe #game-news can help

8 hours

[opaque galleon]

Ah, I see, I’m wrong then, though you just end up seeing ~20% realistically right?

[vagrant spoke]

Is vanguard ship to proc freeze recommended

For new np cv

[inland shoal]

Probably yeah

[sudden narwhal]

how do i get alot of PR and DR blueprints?

[jaunty vault]

research

[soft raft]

by doing researches
no real way to grind them turbo fast unless you're willing to burn a shitton of cubes and have like 800-1k cubes in bank

[sudden narwhal]

is it supposed to take half a year to finish 1 ship?

[jaunty vault]

no

[soft raft]

at least 2-3 months depending on the rarity and your luck

[finite crag]

half that for the whole series

[inland shoal]

Half a year you should be done with all ships

[sudden narwhal]

i feel like im doing something wrong cuz im taking a long time to research 1 ship

[frank pulsar]

/research read this

[odd root]

credit: Newbie#1553 and Lunar#7777 https://i.imgur.com/wGQkqJk.jpg

[opaque galleon]

Does implacable have a torpedo bomber barrage or just dive bombers?

[crisp estuary]

[frank pulsar]

ignore the cube one, generally youd do the d and g researches for ship prints

[sudden narwhal]

is there a meaning to the letters?

[dawn crest]

Really? I got kear 4 months ago and her still at dev14.

[frank pulsar]

the letters just determine the type of research it is

[sudden narwhal]

oh

[finite crag]

yea thats what happens when you dont pick the correct researches

[inland shoal]

Then you're either not focusing Kear or doing sth wrong

[sudden narwhal]

im commander lvl 80 something and so far ive only gotten monarch, friedrich and recently august but not maxed yet

[viscid swift]

it takes 6 months max to finish an entire season from scratch
that's without cube researches but 100% research uptime and good research selection

[frank pulsar]

i managed dev30 mine at 4 months, and im pretty lazy
you prob just pick bad research or somehow less consistent than me

[pliant plover]

I will just use Soyuz since her barrage will proc before Nyankhimov airstrikes

[silver lintel]

I d30 kear in like 3.5 months

[plain saffron]

remember to change research focus before claiming research

[hollow gust]

Well I got her dev 30 in 2 months so are doing something wrong

[crisp estuary]

I d30'd Kearsage two months ago I think

[frank pulsar]

for pr1 to pr4 (excluding the dr for pr4) you can just coin everything

[sudden narwhal]

i usually take the free research so thats why it takes so long

[crisp estuary]

Was really long

[dawn crest]

and what should I be doing?

[frank pulsar]

free research is terrible so that explain a lot

[viscid swift]

take free researches is not the way to go if you want to be done with PR in any reasonable amount of time

[hollow gust]

Going for face missions , grant donations and using rigging to cycle fast

[sudden narwhal]

welp i paid my price in time for being a cheapskate

[viscid swift]

give that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[frank pulsar]

d and g research, the ones with a portrait of a ship or the ones called grant donation

[vagrant spoke]

The last 6 prints to get a second Tenrai feels like foreverrrrrrr 😭

[frank pulsar]

for the ones with a portrait you shld prio the one youre trying to finish first when multiple of them appear

[vagrant spoke]

Which rarity research one has best chance to drop tenrai prints

[frank pulsar]

afaik they all the same drop rate
thorin might know better

[crisp estuary]

I still have not d30 Hindenburg. Might have to leave her to rush the Soviet CV to d30

[keen sable]

monarch and fdg shouldn't even be in the discussion as they can be literally free to research

[inland shoal]

Generally when focusing ships the research selection process is sth like this: 30min? Take it. Face you want ? Take it. 1.5h G? Take it. Otherwise take the shortest (non cube) research available

[inland shoal]

Well you should fish for PR4 Q researches, this means PR4 30m Q > 4h > 2h > 1h, otherwise just take shortest research possible, if several are equal take the one that can drop UR gear

[crisp estuary]

Is the Soviet CV worth it to rush? Note that I do not have the DR JP CV and Shinano is level 1

[sudden narwhal]

how do i find out what CVL/CV/BBC/whatever mean?

[inland shoal]

CVL is light aircraft carrier, CV is Aircraft Carrier and BBC is not for this channel

/glossary

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

🔹 General glossary covering commonly used terms
🔹 Equipment nicknames commonly used by players and
Ship nickname guide by Nerezza#7031

[frank pulsar]

bbc isnt a hull type, i think you meant bc which is battlecruiser

[sudden narwhal]

yeah i got confused

[crisp estuary]

BBV maybe

[keen sable]

who you develop is irrelevant

[viscid swift]

it should be CC not BC, why you do this Manjuu

[plain saffron]

British Broadcasting Corporation

[crisp estuary]

So nothing worth rushing to get by February?

[inland shoal]

As I said, #off-topic

[plain saffron]

sorry didn't read that

[keen sable]

you mean whose face to pick over another?

[crisp estuary]

Naturally.

[plain saffron]

does feb even count as rushing

[crisp estuary]

To me, yes

[keen sable]

actually nevermind still irrelevant. if you don't have all by february you're doing something wrong or not playing etc

[viscid swift]

no, that's well behind shcedule if anything

[kind needle]

RN and NP main fleet exp for Nakhi or not?

[whole crypt]

Feb you should be sitting on FS prints and close to/just got 2nd copy of rainbow gear

[kind needle]

Or still need EU Main Fleet exp like Chkalov, I'm confused

[blissful hamlet]

Is it true that they fixed the UR plane and now kear can equip it?

[whole crypt]

Nakhimov is vodka or pasta main fleet XP

[blissful hamlet]

Kear op

[crisp estuary]

Ugh. Playing AL everyday to update research everyday

[whole crypt]

imagine not playing everyday

[silver lintel]

Just log in, farm some coin and fill queue lol

[whole crypt]

I mean it doesn't even need to be everyday, you could skip a day or 2 a week and still be fine, you won't be behind by a lot

but AL does want to you keep doing things consistently

[blissful hamlet]

AL is a job

[finite crag]

not even really "playing" youre just clicking a button or two and everything is automated while your phone is in your pocket

[sharp comet]

why couldnt they wait another week with the new pr 😢 i'm almost done with yet another pr5 gun

[inland shoal]

How did you even live before research queue

[plain saffron]

i would just be a week late

[crimson glacier]

what difference would it make if they released in after 1 week

the content isnt going anywhere

[plain saffron]

finish it while at it

[silk helm]

which ship should i do first for pr7?

[inland shoal]

You mean develop? Doesn't matter

[viscid swift]

to unlock? it doesn't matter

[inland shoal]

Research you are kinda forced to do all together anyway

[plain saffron]

pick waifu

[inland shoal]

You can focus but it's not a huge difference

[silk helm]

kk sounds good, should i do pr4,5,6 first?

or just select ships from each

[whole crypt]

PR4, finish whole series

it's generally better to follow through a whole series because of how face researches work

if you can't unlock all the ships in the series then go for something you can work with

[silk helm]

aight tyty

[dawn crest]

i doing by faction

basically wrong then

[whole crypt]

which is very inefficient

[dawn crest]

maybe this is the reason that my kear is dev14?

[viscid swift]

among many other potential reasons yes

do you know what happens when you max the development level of one ship from a season?

[dawn crest]

unlock fate?

[viscid swift]

if they have it yes,
but it also temporarily knocks that ship's face researches from the pool until you max every ship in that season

[dawn crest]

That's why the FdG didn't show up to me anymore

[viscid swift]

and when you have all but one season maxed, the only face researches that will show up are the ones from the season you have left

[silk helm]

u had pr2 focus?

[hollow gust]

Face research gets really good once you developed the rest of the PRs

[dawn crest]

no

haku focus

[hollow gust]

Then it's impossible for her to show up

[viscid swift]

PR1, 2, and 3 researches don't show up unless you have no research focus or set it to those season
neither of which you should be doing

[plain saffron]

that sounds like if you finish season 4 you'll never get their face

[viscid swift]

that's catchup not research focus

[plain saffron]

the face removal is per season, if all in that season is maxed all face shows up again

[woeful forge]

do the faces roll face -> ship or is it just one big pool with all the other researches
i.e. is the entire appearance rate of face researches dumped into the DRs if you have all the PRs done

[viscid swift]

yeah, when I say all but one season I mean the entire season

[dawn crest]

i got it

[viscid swift]

like for those of us who are done with PR before this patch, only PR7 face researches will show up when we do PR7 focus until all of the PR7 ships are maxed

[plain saffron]

wut, after you finish all of PR7 they'll still show up

[viscid swift]

"until you finish all of the PR7 ships"

[plain saffron]

they show up before and after

they'll never go away

[vagrant panther]

Ugh so if I just realized I should be doing tenrais (I have zero now) rather than clearing season 6.... I should stick with trying to get tenrai prints still yeah? Intro on season 7 is really cool

[viscid swift]

the implication being all of them return after you max all of the PR7 face researches from non retired seasons will start showing up again

[plain saffron]

what

[hollow gust]

It shouldn't travel between seasons,you can still see other season PR if you haven't finished pr7

[keen sable]

so wrong. one season can't affect another season

[plain saffron]

and if you finish a ship the rate now shared with other 4, each get more, not the total rate reduced

[silk helm]

which pr7 ship r u doing first?

[viscid swift]

I'm saying, if you do PR7 research focus after this and you have all of the PR4-6 ships maxed before that
you should only see PR7 face researches when you do

[plain saffron]

it rolls per season

[keen sable]

probably halford so i can first like i did for kears and harbin

[plain saffron]

the game roll 3 focus 2 random each i assume separately based on how it structured

[viscid swift]

yes I know

[hollow gust]

You can see other seasons though?

[viscid swift]

you can, what I'm saying is those off season face researches will never be a face research

[hollow gust]

It can

I have gotten fucked way too hard because of it

[viscid swift]

it's anccedotal but I never once saw an off season face research while doing PR6 last year

[keen sable]

oh umm beyond developing i will probably just stick with halford to remove from the pool but bayard is probably the hottest. ships don't matter too much to me. i will prioritize Q's over everything when possible.

[silk helm]

equipment enjoyer i see

[whole crypt]

rigging win

you will finish ships long before you have enough gear anyway

[plain saffron]

time to keep track of my research

[inland shoal]

It looks like the chance is dumped into the DRs

[hollow gust]

Don't , it's a pain in the ass

[keen sable]

i don't think you can get more than 1 face of a type so the practical effect is a bit expanded. you get more Q's also.

[inland shoal]

My screenshots tend to agree

[whole crypt]

yeh I don't remember seeing off-series face when hitting up new PR either

[vagrant spoke]

Is maintenance still not over

[viscid swift]

we still have more than an hour left

[sharp socket]

if i get 3 purple cube research and 2 off season research is it better to take purple cube on season or others

[keen sable]

it's still not 8 hours so no

[viscid swift]

I would take the off season research

[keen sable]

refresh

[inland shoal]

Unless the off seasons are like 12h free

[sharp socket]

i refreshed from a bad one to something worse

[keen sable]

12h free would still be better than 6h guaranteed no UR with dumb gear

[crimson glacier]

id rather take the 6h

[inland shoal]

Idk you can make up for a lot of that in the other 6h

[sharp socket]

research is constantly putting me in debt of coins

i take like 6 pieces of purple coin/face, thats 30k+ coins down which is like 1.5 days of coin for 1 day worth of research

[shell willow]

it is very costy, yes

[opaque galleon]

Nahkimov looks like she has a better statline than implacable in everything besides hit rate, her barrage is also quite a bit better. Not sure if that’s enough to justify adding an extra NP slow though

[viscid swift]

personal prefference

[whole crypt]

wait for practical testing against actual bosses I guess

part of the problem is what to use for the NP slow and how the full comp comes together

Kronshtadt's slow is only on cross?

[calm rose]

dont worry, when you farm cdc at W12, you'll get tons of coins

[dusk maple]

Huh, servers up already

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, so they are

[cobalt rapids]

bbv restriction removed

[inland shoal]

I kinda liked the idea of devs specifically cucking Kear better but yay ig

[cobalt rapids]

keary deserves the best

[sharp socket]

my calculations is using 12-4 as the coin farm location, spending every ounce of oil i gain

[sonic hemlock]

So Halford has a 130% 4 plane slot. That's pretty damn good.

Tiny Tims are really fucking strong too.

[turbid dawn]

Wait, what did they change about Kear?

[hollow gust]

Nothing?

[turbid dawn]

Whats that about a BBV requirement?

[calm rose]

i assume you meant the new UR plane being able to be equipped on kear?

[hollow gust]

The new UR gear

[sonic hemlock]

The UR plane couldn't be equipped on Kearsarge, that was a bug and got fixed.

[south sequoia]

Didnt nagami say its equippable now tk kear?

[hollow gust]

Halford is kinda gimmicky ,130% isn't that strong , kear is 200%

[sonic hemlock]

That's because Kearsarge replaces her secondary mount with the fighters.

[calm rose]

their AVI is also very very different. halford has 🤏

[inland shoal]

Kear still has secondary guns technically

[hollow gust]

Even kearsarge 200% with her avi made her plane damage a sidegrade.. I'm not expecting much for halford considering she has to use a sea plane

[opaque galleon]

I did a calc for this number on damage dealt for both ships, even for the mutual 140% eff slot, nahkimov damage is about 7% ahead even without the 40% crit damage, and 18% ahead with it. The gap should widen with nahkimov’s better efficiencies overall, but idk how the barrages compare.

I mean I’m not super confident on the number since I used an arbitrary enemy based on recent meta and harbiter fights but I think it shouldn’t be too far off realistically.

All this to say, the eva debuff implacable provides should still prove more valuable than nahkimov if she can’t access 40% crit damage, though I guess how practical that would be is now up to testing

[hollow gust]

Damage is if her slow sucks

[opaque galleon]

I don’t think it’s in contention at all who’s “better”, if the “flawed” state is inaccessible

[fleet jacinth]

Can i boost daisen exp gathering with shouhou?

[plain saffron]

yes but ehh

[viscid swift]

houshou is the one who boosts CV Xp not shouhou

[calm rose]

houshou? she has rld tech so i would just level her up either way to 120

[open agate]

How 2 kill enemy planes?

[frank pulsar]

shoot them down with your own plane and/or use aa gun

[keen sable]

aa guns and planes are generally the main methods

[unborn owl]

any suggest ship to farm?

[open agate]

how

[atomic rock]

pr7 > pr6 for newbies?

[viscid swift]

I would say yes

[calm rose]

equip AA guns on your ship or fighters onto your CV/CVL

[open agate]

the circle on vanguard? i try to get them inside of it but the damage ouput is too low

[viscid swift]

but PR4 still comes before everything

[frank pulsar]

use better aa gun and upgrade them to +10

[open agate]

ok

[calm rose]

using ships like juneau that has strong AA helps too

[keen sable]

get better aa guns

where are you? chapter 4?

[open agate]

yeap

[sacred parrot]

Is new jersey still worth the bullins for mlb? Or should i wait for new UR

[keen sable]

avoid the 3* aviation nodes will help also

[viscid swift]

we have Vanguard rerunning next week

[open agate]

?

[viscid swift]

so if you don't have her yet she would be a better use of UR bullins

[viscid swift]

he means avoid these enemies

[gritty gull]

I was hoping for musashi 😦
Is vanguard still good?

[viscid swift]

yes

[open agate]

but i need 3 stars on the missions

[soft raft]

Musashi wont rerun for a good while

[cedar willow]

excuse me, reward collected but where is my oil?

[soft raft]

You can do that shit later when you get it to safe threat lvl so you dont instantly die

[keen sable]

storage

[gritty gull]

oh thanks for this

[dawn hamlet]

it lacks arrows

[whole crypt]

instructions unclear looking outwards from lines

[frank pulsar]

theres like no one here thats useful right? besides avrora
if there isnt ill just randomly level them

[cedar willow]

ah! haven't even known about that haha

[inner delta]

FP tech

[dawn hamlet]

anyways I wanna xp another vanguard ship, any recommendation?

[viscid swift]

not really a lot of good tech though

[open agate]

owkay sadge

[keen sable]

i don't understand what is on the edge of the image

[frank pulsar]

who has it? soobrazitel?

[viscid swift]

start leveling Kazagumo

[calm rose]

alot of them has fp fleet tech actl, kirov has 2 for CL in particular

[inner delta]

the italian has, the CL has, talin has,

[viscid swift]

Chapayev, Avrora, Kuyb, Pompeo, Attilio, Kronshtadt and Kirov

[dawn hamlet]

alright I'll do that, thank you

[viscid swift]

Tallinn is HP at 120 not FP

[frank pulsar]

ty

[inner delta]

oh yeah

[gritty gull]

wait zero to hero was right before Alsace?
I'm actually big sad if thats true

[inner delta]

because it's the same tech as eugen

only blutcher is fp, right

[viscid swift]

yes, of the Hippers

[soft raft]

Not directly back to back but yes

[whole crypt]

think outside the box

[gritty gull]

close enough 😦 I'm waiting on so many reruns at this point

[unborn owl]

can i get the exp point even my ship is already max capped?

[keen sable]

exp for what and what cap?

[lethal bolt]

wanna ask, is it worth using combat data packs in shipyard?

[unborn owl]

for PR. and some of my ship already capped

[soft raft]

no
Always convert those to protocore

XP collection is the easy part

[unborn owl]

especially the healer

[fervent hearth]

i assume we use 11 - 1 to farm xp?

[keen sable]

yes xp will count toward combat data collection even if it says 0 for that ship's xp

[unborn owl]

oh okay

[calm rose]

12-1

[fervent hearth]

oh interesting

[glossy spear]

Is the Saratoga better than Long Island CV?

[unborn owl]

any suggest ship that has a good AA?

[soft raft]

quite better

[calm rose]

juneau retro is the cheapest, then sandy aug and shimanto, cheshire from PR

[soft raft]

Juneau retro, San Diego retro, Allen M Sumner, Ingrahm, Cheshire, Shimanto, and prob a few others im forgetting

And Guam and laffey II but they're event limited

[glossy spear]

Oh ok because I just got her and was wondering if I should replace Long Island

[unborn owl]

guam & laffey II already max out. either of juneau & sandy

[kind needle]

Is the game up?

[lethal bolt]

Ok, another question, who do I build to help me get iron blood exp for roon?

[calm rose]

then they'll do, you're grinding exp. shouldnt be hard even if theyre slightly underleveled~

[unborn owl]

is there a way to get rid all of these beside levelling?

[keen sable]

feed them to each other

[soft raft]

Definetly not the backliners or submarines
honestly with that dock you're not really in a comftorable plaec to pick and choose
ig emden/Z23/Z43

[keen sable]

you could also equip some

[turbid dawn]

So I've been testing this fleet for the META fight, copied everything but the fighter for Kear, how does the fleet last for the 4th salvo? They always die with 20-25s left

[calm rose]

4th salvo is quite hard to reach, unless you're using triple CV with harbin tbh

[meager gyro]

wasnt this guy good?

[tiny gulch]

think this team will be able to 1-fleet 12-4?

[keen sable]

if you know what you're doing it's ok. you should avoid it.

[calm rose]

i would just use one of those 3 strike team comp

[viscid swift]

with that main fleet I have my doubts

[soft raft]

On paper it's good against medium but it sucks against light and medium making it less versatile than Champy gun

[lethal bolt]

do i just need 1 frontline iron blood ship?

[spring bolt]

use laffy2 instead of ply, and give the damage con to laffy2. but the chance of vanguard ships dying early still exists

[meager gyro]

i was told like 3 weeks ago that i should try to get

[calm rose]

that gun is never recc here

[wispy pendant]

Just read the gear guides.

[calm rose]

its always champy

[soft raft]

No you optimally use 3 for faster grind
if you meant backline, there's little excuse to do anything below full fleets due to oil cap

Are you at at least W9 btw?

[tiny gulch]

i'm at boss fleet now, let's see if it times out or if sandy is truly #1 again

[meager gyro]

i could swear that it was recommended to me

[nova halo]

oh the servers are up

[tame jungle]

eh. no.

[lethal bolt]

im in w12,havent really touched shipyard for a while

[calm rose]

and i could probably 99% swear its probably not from this place

[viscid swift]

this is the gun that was reccomended to you
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[meager gyro]

it is

[soft raft]

ok then yeah take 3 IB vanguards, 3 backliners, and go grind your ass off in W12

[tame jungle]

ithe, do you ever like, write things down?

[turbid dawn]

Yeah, I don't really get having the tears on Ply either, she's always the last 1 to live, it seems real inconsistent

[whole crypt]

if anyone tried to recommend that gun to you here they'd be quickly slammed

[meager gyro]

idk

[keen sable]

probably should only use mk6 and mk7. swapping is sus

[calm rose]

you're probably misremembering with that gun cheeky just posted tbh

[whole crypt]

is there something you actually know

[meager gyro]

ofc not

[tiny gulch]

you get less EXP for non-S ranks right?

[tame jungle]

maybe start doing that so you don't have to ask every single thing 30 times

[viscid swift]

yes, 20% less to be precise

[lethal bolt]

would using a non mlb ib ship safe? i dont have enough purple bullins to mlb the necessary purple ib vanguards ship

[tiny gulch]

alright i'll just run a 2nd fleet then, this fleet can kill boss but like lol

[meager gyro]

it was a grey 3 barrel pointing to the bottom right gun

[pulsar hornet]

Can we talk about the new PR ships here or best take that discussion somewhere else? Just kinda wondering how the Northern Parliament CV stack up against AvP. Seems like she has the same niche? at first glance

[wispy pendant]

Has berke figured out why he was timing out on w11 yet?

[calm rose]

i just noticed how cursed this is wtf

[tiny gulch]

kinda makes vanguard mvp control pointless if i'm losing 20% on the boss node

[keen sable]

it's fine if you use unicorn and maybe volga

[viscid swift]

only if she's with another NP ship that can slow

[keen sable]

it does

[gritty gull]

is it fine to start retiring purple bulins when I have like 70+ of them?

no way I'll ever need that many right?

[tame jungle]

use for tech

[viscid swift]

I would just use them to limit break ships for tech

[light trail]

who's the most immediately strong-looking of pr7

[tiny gulch]

i wish autosearch would hit ammo nodes

[wispy pendant]

New cv is much better than avp, but she likes having another NP apply a slow, so seems like a good match with soyuz

[viscid swift]

the DRs

[keen sable]

i've scrapped more than that in my lifetime. whether you should...

[calm rose]

you know mk6 points to the bottom right too right? and its triple too

[meager gyro]

the what?

[tame jungle]

triple 406 mk6

[calm rose]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(16"/45_Mk_6)#Type_3-0

[pulsar hornet]

Noted on that.

[inland shoal]

No he went under ever since then until right now

[keen sable]

🧠

[meager gyro]

not that one

[lunar arrow]

Which vanguard ship was lowering damage to CVS?

[whole crypt]

a lot of the recommended BB guns are triples pointing downwards

[pulsar hornet]

Any of the new PR that stands out?

[lethal bolt]

i do not have volga and my unicorn only using all gold tech box gear exept aa which is purple

[viscid swift]

of the SRs not really

[meager gyro]

what do you mean new pr?

[light trail]

mu ships dont contribute to their faction's tech right

[whole crypt]

new research series just released

[keen sable]

unicorn can carry bad ships on 12. volga would be needed if you want to carry L1 ships.

[soft raft]

They give no tech of any form period

[wispy pendant]

I’d love to find out.

[light trail]

tyty

[calm rose]

in the first place remembering a gun from the pointing down direction is very sus

[lethal bolt]

l1 ships?

[keen sable]

faction no. fleet no. cdc yes.

[soft raft]

lvl 1

[sweet merlin]

are the new gears good?

[keen sable]

level 1 ships

[viscid swift]

some of them yes

[meager gyro]

i remember it bc it had some special ahh name

[wispy pendant]

New ur plane best rockets for med and heavy. New ijn gun good mobbing for musashi

[whole crypt]

whatever it was it's not the gun you tried to show

[calm rose]

you unable to tell us the name. that shows you not remembering

[vale spindle]

Samvaluations are coming soon tm dont worry

[meager gyro]

i remember

[tame jungle]

maybe he could remember if he wrote it down :3

[calm rose]

but the gun you're going for is the champy / mk6 / purple twin 410. thats about it tbh

[meager gyro]

it was called ägir gun and i was supposed to get it, thats the one

[calm rose]

thats not a BB gun

[tiny gulch]

there's no new gear lab gear right? just research

[keen sable]

that's not agir gun. that's macro polo gun

[whole crypt]

that's a gun for CBs not BBs

[inner delta]

no i mean just copy paste it

[viscid swift]

correct

[inner delta]

like literally, don't need to wait for it anymore

[iron meteor]

hey i just came back how do i star up ur ships

[calm rose]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_305mm_(SK_C/39_Prototype)#CB_Variant-0 this is agir gun, not that gun you showed, thats marco gun Edit: sorry wrong page

[sweet merlin]

is somting wrong if i searh for sardenga empire ships and this is the only 2 i get?

[viscid swift]

you use dupes or UR bullins to limit break them

[vale spindle]

UR bulins, see https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/common_resource for locations

[iron meteor]

OH right ur bulins is a thing i forgot

[keen sable]

limit break/(or possibly enhance/activate)

[gritty gull]

there are def more ships than that for Sardegna

[soft raft]

That aint Agir gun, that's marco polo gun
This is Agir gun

[soft raft]

idk, maybe you legit just dont have that many italian ships
or you forgot to reset your filters to show backliners

[keen sable]

misinfo going to confuse berk even more

don't they need to go to a thread

[silk helm]

thread confuses berk more

[sweet merlin]

are any of the new prs (not drs) good?

[inland shoal]

Good sure ig, nothing too amazing tho as it seems at the moment

[soft raft]

Day 1 impressions are "They certainly are ships"

[calm rose]

thanks for crossing lmao, i forgot they're on the same page but diff tab i went from list of CA guns, it went to the BB variant

[silk sphinx]

What’s the comparison vs med for bf109g and la9 by the way?

[inland shoal]

La9 wins
But it's slow

[iron meteor]

goddamn this is all i need thanks man

[silk sphinx]

I know it’s better and a second slower, was wondering how big the gap is

[inland shoal]

(At least that's what I was told)

[tiny gulch]

we didn't get any new fate sims or anything else that i'm overlooking right? just PR7

[silk sphinx]

Especially given that it’s triple the gold plates cost

[inland shoal]

About this big 🤏

[viscid swift]

nope, PR6 fate sims won't be until the EN Anni probably

[tiny gulch]

i want Agir fate sim more than PR6 fate sim

[viscid swift]

you'll probably be waiting until January then for the next DR fate sim

[sweet merlin]

why are we waiting for fate sim?

[soft raft]

there's also no guarentee that Agir will be the next DR to get a FS5 anyways

[whole crypt]

you can probably fix it with a beacon or something, 1s slower on 1 plane is not 1s slower on launch time

[lethal bolt]

Ok, would this be good enough to farm exp decently in chapter 12? still have some exp books and 2 purple bullins

[inland shoal]

Idk cuz Ägir useless now or sth apparently
(Ask papi, I'm not the one who wants an Ägir fs)

[iron meteor]

what the hell theres horses in this game now?

[inland shoal]

Yes, Daisen is one if I'm not mistaken

[tiny gulch]

i mostly want the older fate sims just cuz i have the BPs hoarded and it would be nice to offload them

[calm rose]

daisen is a horse girl thats alsaces art/sprite, she rides a horse

[silk sphinx]

Thank you nntktt, and yes I do know that…

[vale spindle]

is la9 a rocket or normal bombs

[inland shoal]

Rocket

[viscid swift]

rocket

[inland shoal]

Whenever you see a non square spread it's rockets

[keen sable]

yikes i would want volga or aquila and what's with that low indy. you can try it with z23 in the middle but I personally wouldn't

[fluid brook]

La9 is in Pr7?

[soft raft]

Yuh

[viscid swift]

yes

[fluid brook]

Thanks

[whole crypt]

you have to check the reload formula but 1s on 1 plane slot is not directly 1s on the total airstrike timer

[lethal bolt]

indy?

[soft raft]

Independence

[inland shoal]

Petition to call La9 Lalalalalalalalala

[silk sphinx]

I appreciate the refresher, especially when I said I knew that..

[golden grove]

When are the URs dropping?

[inner delta]

[whole crypt]

how many lalalalalalalalalas do we need

[inland shoal]

Tbh idk what you want to know lixxy

[silk sphinx]

I’ll calculate it myself, I wanted numbers on comparison in terms of dmg vs med

[viscid swift]

the napkin math I did yesterday has it at 896(Bf-109G) vs 1260(La-9) for medium

[soft raft]

This new research season just dropped

If you meant new Gacha URs, basically Feb/May/Sept/Dec

[silk sphinx]

Like next UR event?

[golden grove]

Yes

[lethal bolt]

ok, should i just go double or single ib vanguard?

[tired condor]

wat is a research season

[silk sphinx]

My guess is September 12

Should be fairly accurate

[knotty dome]

is the second part of napoli mean after the initial smokescreen is gone, she gets her own sssmokescreen?

[silk sphinx]

Same time, don’t stack

[gritty gull]

what mode would aquila be in?

[loud rover]

After i d30 Plymouth and Brest, should I grab 1 or 2 hinden guns in pr6 (while getting any pr6 ship that’s worth building) or should I skip to pr7?

[silk sphinx]

Total time wise every 20s I think she spends 5.5s in smoke

[soft raft]

Heal mode

[knotty dome]

so just extra secondary efficiency basically?

[keen sable]

you have 0 purple bulins?

[viscid swift]

at this point I think PR7 has priority

[gritty gull]

shes better than perseus?

[tired condor]

pr7 is out?

[viscid swift]

yes

[lethal bolt]

2 purple bullins

[spice cedar]

When will we get the next pr missions and the coin blueprint thing?

[viscid swift]

most likely late January to early February

[loud rover]

Napoli first? I’m wondering if I should skip Brest but with the amount of face researches I’m getting for Brest I may as well build her at the same time as Plymouth

[silk sphinx]

PR7 is here, for coining as “I paused my anime to be here” said

[viscid swift]

honestley toss a coin at this point as to which DR to finish first

[finite crag]

doesnt matter who you build first as they wont be d30 anyways

[soft raft]

Aquila can't do the same heavy lifting Unicorn and Perseus can but she's better than Perseus as a option for a secondary healer to pair with Unicorn

[lament bay]

outside the rainbow plane is there any good gear in pr7?

[silk sphinx]

Shouldn’t they try to finish off Plymouth as a priority?

[loud rover]

I meant as in skip trying to d30 her.

[soft raft]

Daisen's gun is basically Musashi's equivalent to the Twin 457

[silk sphinx]

Doesn’t seem like it for now

[viscid swift]

I mean for after PR5 is wrapped up

[finite crag]

i was refering to the "napoli first" portion

[silk sphinx]

It’s slower too though by quite a bit

[lament bay]

so its better for 15s timings?

[silk sphinx]

It’s honestly kind of lame overall, I’m not using it for now

[eternal moth]

I don't remember, 1.5 or 2.5h G better?

[silk sphinx]

1.5

[viscid swift]

to be expected tbh, at least it gives Musashi more options

[spring bolt]

that gun is an upgrade to izumo gun. the speed doesn't match 457 at all

[lament bay]

i wanted a new HE gun

[vale spindle]

@inland shoal does the cl gun sap pierce

[nova halo]

wait why my archive section of the mail have so much oils in it?

[silk sphinx]

It goes to 18.55s reload time on oathed musashi 125 with fleet tech. Too fast

[nova halo]

does it come from the canteen??

[finite crag]

comes from your mail

[polar venture]

Is there a way to get more oil other than commissions and just not playing?

[silk sphinx]

I’m keeping the izumo

[strange sphinx]

on god, why it become more slide show

[nova halo]

only 2k5 and i claimed, but where tf are those 9k oils came from?

[lament bay]

what if u put reloader does it sync with 457

[finite crag]

from your mail

[strange sphinx]

I didn't experience this beforr

[nova halo]

i don't remember i had any mails recently

[silk sphinx]

Why sync with a 457?

[lament bay]

if u put 457 on your other BBs

[agile blade]

can't decide between Halford & Bayard

[wispy pendant]

Do them all

[nova halo]

both

[silk sphinx]

I’ll have to check, but idk, and don’t see any point to it

[viscid swift]

I'd really question as to what you're even trying to do at that point

[stoic badger]

New jersey and Shinano which one is better

[lethal bolt]

so, do i use these 3 ib to do ib exp reaserch farm or do i reduce the amount of ib vanguards since theyre i only have 2 purple bulins?

[nova halo]

depend on your power

[viscid swift]

from exchange? Shinano is the better pick

[wispy pendant]

Shinano better in comparison to other CV compared to NJ compared to other BB.

[keen sable]

yes use the bulins. yes get them to 70. remember you have a z43 dupe...

[lament bay]

sync musashi on twin 457mm timers

[dense adder]

13-2 is a better farm than 13-4 right?

[stoic badger]

what is bb

[keen sable]

you should probably stick to 12-1 and not 12-4 initially.

[finite crag]

battleship

[gritty gull]

does anyone use these?

[soft raft]

Nope

[keen sable]

they make better planes though

[fluid brook]

13-2 drops more exp, while 13-4 drops more coins

[left tiger]

Does a lvl 125 ship contribute exp to pr grind?

[vale spindle]

wouldn't the new seaplane also be the better than the bbv saiun for the purple ijn bbvs like hyuuga

[gritty gull]

I SAW NOPE AND DISSASEMBELD 😭

[dense adder]

ok thanks

[strange sphinx]

Idk if this a gameplay help, but How tl deal with Frame rate drop?

[silk sphinx]

Forgot to thank you cheeky.

[eternal moth]

As fodder to make a Suisei model 12, but that's it. And even that's EXTREMELY niche

[vale spindle]

lower the frame rate to 30fps in settings

[gritty gull]

thanks I don't feel so bad anymore

[tranquil saffron]

Does the levels of CVs on support fleet for w15 matter?

[viscid swift]

yeah but in what secnario would you want to run mutliple 457s and sync them other than for memes and flexing

[lethal bolt]

oh i forgot about that z43 dupe,
so level the ships i need to lvl 70 first and then start farming or do i just use the ib vanguard ships i have lvl 70ed while waiting for the other ships?

[lament bay]

well there could be some shields on 20s timer or something like that

[inner delta]

yeah because it takes the stats

[keen sable]

it's not easy enough that you should be throwing away single digit percentage improvements. if it's only this that is suboptimal you can probably get away with it

[viscid swift]

that's what fire control radars are for

[keen sable]

what you have more ib ships?

[knotty dome]

what notable russian shnips have slow for nakhimov's freeze?

[lethal bolt]

This is the only ib ships I have, only just got Emden lvl 70

[inland shoal]

Soyuz, Chkalov, Kron ig

[knotty dome]

does kron have a slow?

[boreal oriole]

• Voroshilov also

[keen sable]

use the 3 that was decided already. which coincidentally are basically your highest level ones also

[soft raft]

On her cross fleet yee

[silk sphinx]

Does that actually work?

[rapid grail]

soyuz also has a slow on her crossfleet barrage right?

[vale spindle]

@inner delta added gear evaluations to datamine :MURM:

[left owl]

Who do I build first from pr7?

[inland shoal]

Yes

[silk sphinx]

Says in your fleet…

[viscid swift]

it doesn't matter

[lethal bolt]

ok, also just doubled checked my exp book stock,i do not have enough to lvl 70 both 2 purple ib ship i would be using,do i stick with the 3 vanguard ib ship farming or do i go for 2?

[silk sphinx]

I’ll take your word for it thorin then

[inland shoal]

And yes Soyuz cross fleet also works

[keen sable]

if z23 dies, switch to 2.

[wary robin]

does it need to proc snare only once and enemy will ahve this debuff till the end of the battle?

[lethal bolt]

ok thx

[keen sable]

you generate between 26 - 54 xp books a day. z23 will be ready by tomorrow at worst

[solid quail]

Can I know what are the research weapon blueprints for the new PR7?

[kind olive]

Can I still get the research EXP if I use max lvl-ed ship?

[neat roost]

yes

[vale spindle]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[kind olive]

thanks guys

[rose whale]

is there any ship that can boostxp for nakhimov/napoli grind? 😄

[eager mulch]

yes

[soft raft]

if you're fine with using ships that dont qualify for the XP missions sure

[silk sphinx]

Seems a bad idea

[rose whale]

I should be ok, spamming 11-1 doesn't need much

[eager mulch]

smh not a 15-4 gamer

[viscid swift]

just do 12-1 instead of 11-1

[silk sphinx]

The point is those ships aren’t of the appropriate faction, so you’re actually lowering relevant exp gained by including them

[rose whale]

gotta combine xp grind and pr grind together. so... what's the magical ship?

[obtuse knoll]

is 12-1 better than w13-w15 for exp?

[viscid swift]

yes and it's much easier

[gritty gull]

wait how does that make any sense 👀

[obtuse knoll]

so 12-4 only for coin right?

[rose whale]

it's about how much xp you can get per oil

[tiny gulch]

should i make another rainbow DD gun? 3 406mk7s is enough right

[silk sphinx]

Oilcap. There’s a maximum oil cost when it’s cleared (100%)

[gritty gull]

wait thats a thing?

[soft raft]

On paper W13 and 15 have higher XP per fight but W12 is more oil and time efficent while being significantly easier to drag complete shitters through

[silk sphinx]

The rewards increase as you go up but so does the oilcap

[soft raft]

/oilcap yes

[odd root]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/901103255935942706/969285900607553606/unknown.png

[viscid swift]

it's still good, but W12 is more for coins compared to 12-1 yes

[silk sphinx]

So overall rewards per oil wise you get less exp in w13 to 15 than 12

Although coin still increases

[ebon verge]

is 13-4 fine if i also need coins?

[tiny gulch]

13+ is hard to farm though with fleet tech jabronis

you need an actual real fleet of sorts for 13

12-4 you can kinda just lob whatever and be fine for the most part

[rose whale]

and I still don't know what was the answer for my question

[eager mulch]

there isn’t any ship from Russian or Italian faction that boosts xp but it’s not like you need them

cdc1 can be done in an hour or two

[silk sphinx]

Argus/Langley/Houshou can boost CV/L experience gained

[tiny gulch]

that's hyperbolic, i been running it for about an hour and a half and i'm at 31% rn, taking a morale break

[ebon verge]

idk but this fleet works for 13-4 auto

[eager mulch]

that’s on you

[silk sphinx]

Iirc yuubari boost certain vanguard hulls exp

[glossy spear]

Should the Indianapolis or Little Bel replace any of the ships in my formation?

[eager mulch]

no

[tiny gulch]

that's more than just an "Actual Fleet"

[soft raft]

nope and nope

[glossy spear]

I also replace Long Island with Saratoga if that’s good

[tiny gulch]

when you get to the fleet tech stat grind and you're leveling ships that suck, 13-4 is hard to pull off

[soft raft]

yeah we already told you she's good

[vale lotus]

does napoli have a ghost secondary?

[silk sphinx]

Trick is just being done with at least main fleet tech farm

[glossy spear]

Should she be a priority to level up or focus on unicorn

[silk sphinx]

Then you can throw in unicorn and stuff

[rose whale]

taskent muse count as NP right?

[silk sphinx]

For cdc yes

[rose whale]

okay thanks guys, time to start the grind

[silk sphinx]

You can tell by just filtering in dock

[silk sphinx]

Unicorn is more important but why can’t you do both?

[inland shoal]

Yes? If you mean the right thing anyway

[sleek spade]

Is Nakhimov slow better than avp or no

[eager mulch]

Hell no

ark royale type slow

[undone plover]

if u proc the NP buff then it is kinda the same as AvP

[silk sphinx]

If cross fleets work then hm

[sleek spade]

Hmmm that would require Kronstadt or Soyuz in the fleet then?

[viscid swift]

it'll be fine for OpSi but a no go for META showdowns and such

[sleek spade]

Yea makes sense

[undone plover]

did anyone confirm if kron cross works?

or do we have to wait 6 days for someone to dev her

[sleek spade]

How can someone fully dev her in 6 days??

[silk sphinx]

Thorin said that the cross should work

[sleek spade]

Nice

[undone plover]

not fully dev to dev30
just research her i mean

[silk sphinx]

Makes her much better anyways

[sleek spade]

Still fast!!

[silk sphinx]

It’s not that hard

[undone plover]

it would be faster if it wasnt time gated

[silk sphinx]

Stick in dorm, three relevant exp ships; anyone can do that

Just spend some thousands of oil in a day

[sleek spade]

Well Imma go sleep thanks for info yall

[steady beacon]

6 days (or precisely 144 hours) is simply the shortest theoretical time to complete every dev mission under the limitations of the time gate
It's pretty normal to do, actually

[ashen berry]

we still cant coin dr4?

[steady beacon]

Not as yet

[nova halo]

soon

[left cedar]

if not time gated i can do 1 PR per day for sure

[viscid swift]

it's still probably 6 months off

[ashen berry]

ah damn

[nova halo]

soon they will add fate sim for pr6 too

[viscid swift]

in about month probably

[nova halo]

hope so, also i hope that they could update the gear lab

[ashen berry]

i cant gain xp for pr right?

[nova halo]

like adding something new to it

[viscid swift]

next gear lab update also probably isn't for 6 months

[eternal moth]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[finite crag]

can

[fluid brook]

Yes you still can get exp from 125

[nova halo]

just exp cap for the ship

[ashen berry]

alright bet

[tawdry topaz]

are the new PR ships good? smh they all have %hp buffs

[silk helm]

so do you guys fight the arbiter every day? srry im new to opsi

[undone plover]

one time normal and one time hard if u can

[viscid swift]

no, just once a month

[silk helm]

oh haha, well i need multiple tries. so i've just been sending in my fleets everyday for normal

[silk sphinx]

in our case we can kill arbiter with one single fleet or two

[undone plover]

make sure your adapts are high before u try

otherwise u are making it harder for yourself

[silk sphinx]

adapts are important, and obviously some ships are far stronger than others...

[nova halo]

all dockyard's ships are good

[silk sphinx]

your offense adaptability is lower than max effective (203)

maximally effective adapts are 203/203/156

anything higher than that is completely useless

[soft raft]

not exactly
Alot of them are powercrept and some are pretty good in their own right but get overshadowed by rainbows or other SR/PR ships that have more mainline use

[silk helm]

okay ty, im not rlly sure how i got the adapt

[silk sphinx]

you probably bought them tbh

[glass quest]

what would theoretically be the next UR Shipgirl in the 400 build exchange after NJ and Shinano?

[nova halo]

actually they're good from PR3 and above

[silk helm]

probs, i basically cleared out the store (hoeppfully it wasn't a mistake)

[silk sphinx]

it was

[silk helm]

welp

[silk sphinx]

oh well, it's mostly just voucher optimization

[viscid swift]

Shimakaze

[finite crag]

me when i lie

[silk helm]

is there a guide on what to buy first? its not in the shop prio guide

[soft raft]

Tell me the last time you've realistically used Odin, Mainz, Champagne, Marco, and possibly Cheshire

[silk sphinx]

hm, by the way is anyone writing an opsi guide rn?

[willow dock]

Was immediate level 10 skills part of the update?

[silk sphinx]

i know about sam's picture guide... wonder if a short doc would suffice

[undone plover]

a certain turtle is working on this
but for future reference if not sure just ask

[stark quiver]

So to focus on all ships in a season, I just take whatever face researches there are, but DR faces get priority?

[soft raft]

no

[silk sphinx]

pretty much yeah

[silk helm]

will do

[silk sphinx]

if you're in a rush you can take some H-series

[strange sphinx]

hmmm what is the advisable number of coining a dr character??

[soft raft]

10 BPs per day

[silk sphinx]

main thing ig is not to buy heal kits and tuning (adapts). Purple and below materials for gear lab are also kind of pointless since you get so many of them grinding normally. META materials are kind of fine, just that a lot of people don't enhance all their meta ships so it can be useless to you

you normally grind adapts by just repeating secured zones

[strange sphinx]

ohnwow, I wasted like 70k coins

[soft raft]

jesus fucking christ why

[silk helm]

okay good to know :c I didn't buy the purple mats or healing kits so thats good at least

[silk sphinx]

tuning is relatively cheap, you can buy it as a shortcut and to accelerate the process

[undone plover]

and to expand on what lixxy said u do this to min/max the vouchers for the exchange shop when it resets
since any extra coin u spend means less vouchers for the reset. u want to have ~7k at least iirc

[silk sphinx]

it's just that since you can grind it, the min/max approach is to not in fact purchase them

[viscid swift]

good thing I still have this

[strange sphinx]

well Idk about the advisable limit and went to limit, Idk about DR and PR in general

[soft raft]

Welp now you know

[silk sphinx]

i wouldn't worry too much about voucher gain rn

[silk helm]

goated

[silk sphinx]

wow cheeky. you put tuning in optional but R2 in skip

[undone plover]

are R3 coords worth cheeky?
tracking mine I have not seen em drop gold plates
or is it cause of the other mats?

[strange sphinx]

[viscid swift]

iirc R2 is just a net loss in vouchers so that's why

[silk sphinx]

yeah but higher chance of cat

[eager mulch]

but muh blue opsi mats

[viscid swift]

very true

[silk sphinx]

they're cheap too... i would put them in optional, and tuning in optional or skip, but whatev

[viscid swift]

I think it's just one in the shop anyway

[sweet delta]

R2 has zero chance of scam cat and is just worse than c3 safe for cat node per AP

[undone plover]

what about R3?

[strange sphinx]

what's the average Opsi exchange vouchers for a month?

[viscid swift]

for me it's at least 12k

[silk sphinx]

? if you play it assiduously it's' around 12-13k. for reference i buy META materials

[sweet delta]

If you are stingy and hardworking it's 14k+

[strange sphinx]

what C5 level you guys farming or it is a preference?

[silk sphinx]

whichever

[strange sphinx]

ic

[sweet delta]

Southwest one are the easiest

[viscid swift]

C5 is my AP dump, cannot be bothered with C1 or C3

[silk sphinx]

currently i'm focusing on star missions though tbh

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, I did that before I ran out of the farmable ones

[silk sphinx]

? then you're at 360 then?

[viscid swift]

nope, 351/360

[silk sphinx]

i finished all the non-farmeable way earlier, you just need the map for it

[viscid swift]

should have been 353 this month but autosearch screwed me over this month

[keen owl]

Im missing some ships but i have no idea who they are.

[silk sphinx]

other than the new Priority ships? check your retrofits

[eternal moth]

Retros maybe?

[keen owl]

I checked retro but not there

[crimson glacier]

if you are showing unowned only then retros dont show the missing stuff

[short matrix]

are both my fleets supposed to get data analyzed in 15-4? Boss fleet took fake boss 1 and mob fleet took fake boss 2, but both still have data analyzed debuff

[keen owl]

So its retros eh

[crimson glacier]

well just check retros

[keen owl]

Any DR in PR7?

[silk sphinx]

shouldn't be, you sure fleet 1 still has debuff?

[crimson glacier]

2

[viscid swift]

the 5 new PR ships and probably Colroado retro
in addition to Wichita META

[dull solstice]

Is the new PR7 UR plane a Fighter or bomber/torpb?

[viscid swift]

it's a rocket fighter

[silk sphinx]

fighter with rockets, best fighter vs med and heavy

[dull solstice]

Nicee, now i get to full UR items my CVs in time

[silk sphinx]

i mean, we don't have UR TBs yet so not rly

[elfin hollow]

How do you get more blueprints is been a pain slowly getting them

[quiet pawn]

why cant i use gold instead of blueprints for brest?

[short matrix]

Yep.

[soft raft]

Because PR5 is currently uncoinable
And Brest herself (and Plymouth) wont be coinable for a while after the PR5 PRs can

[viscid swift]

because PR4 DRs, PR5, 6 and 7 don't have the feature yet

[silk sphinx]

"coining" is only possible for older shipyard ships. Brest is relatively newer. Coining is currently possible for only PR1-3 (everyone) and PR4 gold ships

[silk sphinx]

like ship blueprints?

[elfin hollow]

yes

[silk sphinx]

in general; never take any "free researches". D and H-series researches are best for ship blueprints

the shorter the higher efficiency (blueprints/time), 30min researches are very good

Q series are best for gear

that... is pretty much it

[elfin hollow]

how do I know if its a h or d research?

[silk sphinx]

for series like PR4, to accelerate finishing off hakuryuu and agir you can coin the gold PR4 ships to completion, such that only hakuryuu and agir will show up for series 4 D-series researches

[sullen pebble]

I asume that a lvl 125 ship with max exp cant collect any exp for the pr ships right?

[viscid swift]

/prgrind

[odd root]

Does __ count for Shipyard Combat Data Collection EXP?

• Exp earned in PvE combat? Yes.
• Event Combat? Yes. Operation Siren? Yes.
• Ships level capped for any reason? Yes, if it otherwise would count. Even if you see +0.
• PvP/Exercises? No. Dorm? No. Exp packs? No. Commissions? No.

[silk sphinx]

D-766 is a D-series. G-412 is a G series

[elfin hollow]

on it saids there I thought it was some random shit

[silk sphinx]

H series take cubes, I’d avoid taking them if you’re not rich in cubes

[elfin hollow]

so q and h are the best and dont take "free" ones?

[silk sphinx]

You can take the 30 minute ones though (will have H-###-UL code)

[silk helm]

tenrai is for bossing right?

[hollow gust]

Tenrai is for everything

[silk sphinx]

Nah the numbers are specific for ships and research type and length, and the letters also mean something

[silk helm]

daaaamn only got one, should i put it on boss or mob