gameplay-help

[sweet delta]

Leipzig augment
战术指挥·{namecode:424}
targeting TargetNil
15 dmg, scaling on 100% of FP, 100% coefficient,
32 bullets of AP ammo, 75/110/75% armor, 100±5 range, 18 velocity.

targeting TargetNil
135 dmg, scaling on 100% of TRP, 100% coefficient,
6 bullets of TORPEDO with 80/100/100% armor, 3 diameter, 100±10 range, 4 velocity. {"diveFilter": [2]}. Has acceleration {"tracker": {"angular": 1.6, "range": 14}}.

[wary robin]

RN is italian, not royal navy. And NP is soviet. But somewhy on Napoli part it changed to SN, soviet Navy

[strong tartan]

rn is both

wait no it isnt nevermind

[forest palm]

RN is Royal Navy when translated to English lol

it's not HMS on the other hand

[plain saffron]

Tell sam

[uneven cave]

RN when talking about the faction/navy is Royal Navy
But as a ship prefix it's Regia Nave

[wary robin]

For research ship RN is italian, ye

[plain saffron]

For this context use hms and rn

[forest palm]

RN is the handle for all Italian ships

[plain saffron]

Nobody call hms ships RN

[uneven cave]

It's not just for research ships, it's for all Kingdom of Italy ships before 1947

[vagrant spoke]

What about after 1947

[whole crypt]

even if not research it's RN

[left cedar]

so in a stupid, but practical short answer, DRs gud, PRs yeah, can have some niches but, meeh

[plain saffron]

Italy is RN

[uneven cave]

Not relevant, take it to #history

[strong tartan]

did sam forget to translate bayard skills

[silk sphinx]

what's the tech?

[whole crypt]

nothing important to be translated for Bayard

[slender tulip]

It's translated on my end you may need to refresh it

[stark quiver]

is it worth to skip pr6 for pr7 right now? i have a hinden gun at 40/50

[strong tartan]

oh thats sad

[eager mulch]

So nakhi is 2 avi, daisen 2 fp (with eva on acquisition), Napoli is 1 fp, Halford 1 eva, bayard is eva with reload on acquisition

[strong tartan]

good now

[silk sphinx]

oh just fp and avi huh. oh well gud enuf

[whole crypt]

Daisen FP tech pog

[wary robin]

I know, thats why i wonder why for nakhimov it written NP (Northern Parliament), while for Napoli it written SN (Soviet Navy).
Its confusing then what term is for RN stands, ingame or irl

[forest palm]

yell at Sam for the inconsistencies

[whole crypt]

???

[forest palm]

#gameplay-help message

[plain saffron]

We take all from cn no northen parliament or something

[whole crypt]

I'm talking about the naming and stuff

[plain saffron]

Puh that part is manjal

[eternal moth]

This is what they're talking about

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 just read ingame after maintenance

[whole crypt]

just keep everything in moonrunes 0 ambiguity

[remote yarrow]

Why the pregnant emote

[hollow gust]

I think he swapped those two around

[plain saffron]

Anyway it's getting fixed

[left cedar]

sometimes, better not ask why some ... questionable things, answers can be ... traumatic, and u cant erase it from ur head

[vagrant spoke]

Is there a new rainbow plane in the gear thing?

[slender tulip]

Yes rocket fighter

[left cedar]

a better Bf109g in general, and that is it from wut i have read

[viscid swift]

it's better than the Bf-109G against everything pretty much

[rapid grail]

not better than HVAR against Light armor?

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/7aeyie

[viscid swift]

based on my numbers no

[plain saffron]

Nice embed discord

[viscid swift]

20 AVI might swing it but I doubt it

[vagrant spoke]

How would the new rocket fighter rank against other fights vs light and heavy

[forest palm]

if 20 AVI did swing it, I'd imagine it'd be almost marginal

[left cedar]

we literally say that

[silk sphinx]

armor mods are 80-140-80

so yep, med specialized

[viscid swift]

read further back a bit

[silk sphinx]

the 4x23mm is like the gun on the plane?

[left cedar]

225 +10, with +20 AVI buff, mmaybe beat the light Bf109G, but cant do the trick x HVAR

[strange sphinx]

wait it can Equip by CV? kind of didn't backread

[left cedar]

same as others Rocket Fighters, they got AA Guns, but cant intercept

[forest palm]

cannons

[plain saffron]

Napoli is sr or ur

[viscid swift]

UR

[whole crypt]

DR

[slender tulip]

DR (UR)

[plain saffron]

Bayern?

[viscid swift]

Bayard is an SR

[left cedar]

i cant stop be surprised by Nagami intelect...

[viscid swift]

Bayern isn't in game yet

[plain saffron]

What faction

[strange sphinx]

IL

[plain saffron]

Can someone send her pics

[hollow gust]

~~Nagami is like Saratoga, both stupid and smart at the same time ~~

[silk sphinx]

can't you just check #game-news

[plain saffron]

Ouh nvm

[strange sphinx]

Baguette Ship

[forest palm]

[strange sphinx]

Where's my Big sister Lexington II

[sleek spade]

wait the new floatplane can be equipped by DDs? How?

[plain saffron]

Because she have float plane slot

[strange sphinx]

[hollow gust]

Halford

[sleek spade]

ah I see

[plain saffron]

Only her though

[hollow gust]

Useless slot, should’ve done dive bomber

[strange sphinx]

[sleek spade]

so it would normally work on BBVs?

[forest palm]

is Halford classified as Aviation Destroyer?

[plain saffron]

Just dd

[forest palm]

but of course

[hollow gust]

Shes a dd with a catapult lol

[viscid swift]

she doesn't have a flight deck so...

[wary robin]

So, how relatively good her barrage ?

[whole crypt]

destroyer with an AA slot that becomes variable

[left cedar]

Yeah, imagine use a BBV with Sea Plane ... yeah seens worth it

[hollow gust]

Kearsarge is a BBV cause she has a flight deck

[slender tulip]

Just like Fubuki (hololive) just a dd

[hollow gust]

Total abomination, make gorgous US superstructure look dog shit

[sleek spade]

does that plane works anywhere else that's not:
Halford
Dogshit BBVs?

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/efr6c4

Kearsarge exist

[sleek spade]

doesn't Kear use actual planes?

[remote yarrow]

She has a pad?

[plain saffron]

Ouh wait

[silk sphinx]

anything notable other than the la9?

[strange sphinx]

[remote yarrow]

Kinda reminds me of certain character from another game

[whole crypt]

use on chenhai

[eternal moth]

Damn, she really just shits out barrages

[viscid swift]

Musashi got a budget 457, uhhh

[plain saffron]

Juggling like 5 thing at a time with empty stomach

[remote yarrow]

Just eat

[silk sphinx]

a bit slower than 457 but ig could be useful

[whole crypt]

I see a lot of barrage on Bayard but still don't see anything spectacular about her?

[plain saffron]

Who else left

[eternal moth]

Napoli

[woven sluice]

I think that's just one really long barrage

[sleek spade]

are the new LA-9 good?

[viscid swift]

Yes

[plain saffron]

I think i sent already
Gonna compile all to 1 message later

[left cedar]

the new Twin 410 AP seens dog shit throug, even to Musa, cuz is slower than 457 and less dmg

[sleek spade]

but isn't it just good for Mediums and nothing else?

[calm rose]

Thank you for your service

[whole crypt]

Napoli is the broken embed above

[silk sphinx]

kind of seems like it. armor mods are 80/140/80

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm where's the New rainbow fighter?

[sleek spade]

La-9

[silk sphinx]

the only one in the datamine with green background

[viscid swift]

It's the best fighter against heavy ignoring intercept

[wary robin]

What about backliners ?

[sleek spade]

but it's 80% armor scaling. wouldn't bombs work better?

[viscid swift]

Still worse than converging TBs aganst heavy though

[left cedar]

bombs pretty much got cutted to 50%~ cuz hithate

[sleek spade]

ah that sux

it is what it is I guess...

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/b8665k

[viscid swift]

they have 100% hit rate, scale off 100% avi stat not 80% like bombs, and 225 damage base

[strange sphinx]

of course it is a SN Aircraft

[sleek spade]

very well I shall use La-9 for heavy bosses

[viscid swift]

it's also NP so it procs for kearsarge's skill

[sleek spade]

would Nakhimov be SUPER GOOD with Soyuz?

[opal mauve]

She can't equip it, isn't it?

[sleek spade]

what's NP

[left cedar]

as everything depends on content, but yeah, Nakhi seens to be a general gud with Soyuz

[sleek spade]

nice

[finite crag]

northern parliament

[left cedar]

btw, focus in that "seens"
cuz is theorically

[silk sphinx]

sure, but it means you're compromising opsi bossing fleets

[viscid swift]

Northern Parliament

[whole crypt]

I'd imagine Soyuz/Nakhimov will be a strong pair for campaign

[silk sphinx]

and someone earlier said that nakhi's stop ends instantaneously after the time is over

[sleek spade]

[whole crypt]

for meta bossing it's either standard OS layouts or showdown niche comps

[silk sphinx]

honestly not sure i understand how it works. 5s for slow, 2.5s conditional stop?

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/zh55p9

[silk sphinx]

like are they sequential or does some portion of that 5s get swapped to a stop

[viscid swift]

As far as I understand it's either

[left cedar]

if enemy got a slow b4 Nakhi lauchs got a freezy with 2.5s, but the slow from her lauch keeps for 5s ... so its both at same time

[silk sphinx]

huh. does the "flawed" stack just stay?

[plain saffron]

"Gameplay" footage, all using real gear lvl125 max dev no simulation buffs

Daisen
https://streamable.com/zh55p9

Admiral Nakhimov
https://streamable.com/b8665k

Bayard
https://streamable.com/efr6c4

Napoli
https://streamable.com/7aeyie

Halford
https://streamable.com/o7bqqy

[silk sphinx]

by the way, how is this done without simulation buffs?

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm looks like I can put La-9 in Yt2 if I put her in Boss fleet

[sweet delta]

By playing challenge mode

[worldly pewter]

faerlein also has a piecing foresight too #1200474660693876859 message

[sweet delta]

One that isn't even active

[silk sphinx]

it doesn't no? conv still better

[strange sphinx]

Atleast manjuu did what I said, They will do a funny, UR fighter

[frank pulsar]

napoli is tank right

[left cedar]

she is both, Tanker and DPS, well, still theorically, but pretty sure on it

[silk sphinx]

apparently mebot ehp puts her at 142 relative to anchorage's 158

[forest palm]

Anchorage with Damage

that's probably the most succinct way to put it

[silk sphinx]

but hey, napoli has 3 secondary mounts, that go up to 170 eff within smoke

[clever sun]

Do this game have friend system?

[silk sphinx]

completely negligible but yes

[whole crypt]

it does but it's basically useless

[forest palm]

yes, but it's underutilized

[left cedar]

someplaces her THICC heavy armor can save her up to better than ancho
some places her THICC Heavy armor can put her under than ancho
so as always, it will depends on wut specifically u are facing

[clever sun]

Where to add friend?

[charred pollen]

So how’s the new pr’s looking

[stark quiver]

would be nice if we could do co-op ship with friends

[whole crypt]

Napoli pog

[silk sphinx]

Just check main screen

[clever sun]

Thanks

[stark quiver]

145

[whole crypt]

not enough big red arrows

[wispy pendant]

Anyone have a good breakdown on the pr7 boats and gear?

[left cedar]

kinda, corpse drag system looks like
cuz imagine
a "friend" start the game, instantly add u and can pick 1 of ur ships to help him in campaign ... kinda, with this one ship if well geared can pretty much bring him to W12 easily

[eternal moth]

DR good, PR niche

[ember totem]

how far is 40 range?

[hollow gust]

That just won't be fair

[wispy pendant]

What’s the one to 4 word summary of the gear?

[left cedar]

more than 39, less than 41

[forest palm]

this is a new addition to the UI right? this is for CDP

[stark quiver]

guild boss on steroids

[wispy pendant]

Is the new ur plane like best med plane now?

[plain saffron]

Saratoga hacked into my pc and give me the footage

[left cedar]

jokes asside, a bit more than 134 AA range
134 range its 35

[frank pulsar]

i dont understand nakhimov's skill, does she provide a stop if another np ship slows while her slow is active or what

[wispy pendant]

What’s the new vit-2 plane?

[whole crypt]

looks like it

[plain saffron]

What does it says

[hollow gust]

Her airstrike has to activate after a NP slow is on

[viscid swift]

Nahkimov is another damage CV with a slow and conditional root
Napoli is Anchorage but with damage thanks to her secondaries
Daisen is an SR BB with a heal that only procs in plane heavy enviroments
Bayard is damage/barrages
Halford is gimmicky
The new UR plane is the new best Rocket fighter against medium and heavy
the Twin 410mm is a budget IJN 457 for Musashi
we have a new rocket sea plane
everything else is unremarkable

[silk sphinx]

so the slow has to be active?

[plain saffron]

Launch
Enemy is slowed? Stop them
Else no

[silk sphinx]

or does it have been activated at least once prior, but not necessarily active at the moment of stop

[whole crypt]

the heal doesn't proc in plane-heavy, it procs when enemy has AA

[frank pulsar]

fs5 chkalov might be viable with her

[hollow gust]

Cool then you have to use a chkalov

[silk sphinx]

double bomb for bossing?

[left cedar]

slowed by Rusky ship

[frank pulsar]

how big is the difference between her and a ur anyway

[silk sphinx]

pretty big, especially via a boss

[viscid swift]

well how many tenrais do you have...

[hollow gust]

I'll say between SR bbs and UR bbs , when used in bossing

[silk sphinx]

she has two mandatory db slots

[viscid swift]

because right off the bat she wants 2 for herself

[plain saffron]

What fleet is cooking rn

[hollow gust]

Honestly I'm leaning towards just ditching the time stop and just using her in heavy and slow moving meds

[frank pulsar]

nahkimov might not be as good as other ur cv then

[hollow gust]

60% is enough for heavy

[wispy pendant]

The new vit-2 not worth anything?

[forest palm]

Nahkimov really reads as a Impy side grade, to which I'm not sure if I'd actively want to change fleets up for that

[viscid swift]

It's straight up worse than the one from pr5

[silk sphinx]

also nakhi is probably dead for pvp. I think napoli replaces anchorage at least

[wispy pendant]

So we got a good Musashi gun, just kinda fast for Helena timing?

[silk sphinx]

might make for a new bis vg.

[forest palm]

PvP 🚮

[wary timber]

So wait... a new 410mm ?

[forest palm]

it's a small upgrade over Izumo Gun

[frank pulsar]

halford might be decent substitute for helena in bb fleet

[left cedar]

new 410 is slower than 457, less dmg, and worse mods... idk, i cant see that as gud

[wispy pendant]

@viscid swift so Nakimov good but wants to be with who? Soyuz or put her with a vangaurd? Which North P vangaurd ships “slow”?

[hollow gust]

Is it? It didn't sync with Helena

[viscid swift]

We will have to wait and see

[hollow gust]

The new gun just replaces her purple one

[wispy pendant]

You do know Musashi wants an ijn gun, right?

[silk sphinx]

it's too fast, would hit 18.55s on musashi with oath and 17rld tech

[forest palm]

the 410 is AP, not HE

[south sequoia]

Chkalov and Soyuz

Specifically chkalov fs5

I mean to answer the latter part of your question, not who she should be paired up with.

[silk sphinx]

the new gun is AP no? (40/130/130)

[left cedar]

just a straight comparation, cuz if u gona use a 22s gun, just slap a Tri410

[wispy pendant]

NP faction fleet

[strange sphinx]

Our Faction

[forest palm]

may as well have just given us a new gun that uses Beehive Ammo tbh

[viscid swift]

Yes, and the 457 is basically just a mobbing gun

[frank pulsar]

centaur augment doesnt look great

[viscid swift]

It'll be Musashi's go to for late game mobbing now pretty much

Not much else than that though

[strange sphinx]

Musashi op... when yamato

[eternal moth]

Right after Midway

[hollow sail]

so it's not aimed?

[wispy pendant]

Does new ur plan have intercept?

[viscid swift]

Fuck Yamato
I want Des Moines and Johnston

[left cedar]

no, its not aimed

[plain saffron]

See datamine if there's 2 cd or not

[silk sphinx]

am I reading this right? this so called potential "replacement" for the 410 triple has 156*2 vs 154*3?

[hollow sail]

what exactly is the difference between them then...

[left cedar]

Fuck Yamato
i wanna H-39 CV UR
and of course, my last Desuland, Scheer

[plain saffron]

If 2 then intercept

[hollow sail]

can't just be one has two less torps

[eternal moth]

It's not a replacement for a triple

[silk sphinx]

i mean, i know that musashi heavily relies on her barrage, but idk if it's useful at all tbh

[left cedar]

i'm telling that new 410 its a straight shit, and ppl still coping for that

[viscid swift]

It's a replacement for the 410 kai

[wispy pendant]

Man, why give us rockets without intercept?? This isn’t very cash money of them

[eternal moth]

Because attack aircraft aren't typically dogfighters

[viscid swift]

As I see it anyway

[left cedar]

Just Tri410 and that is it, no reason to Daigun

[wispy pendant]

I like to have and eat cake , k thnx

[silk sphinx]

the 410mm has overall better mods (much worse in heavy though) and shoots 2 whole seconds faster at base

[viscid swift]

For mobbing?

[strange sphinx]

Fuck yamato, Where's my Lexington II

[silk sphinx]

i don't think there's much point in using it at all, but i guess i might be shown wrong

[plain saffron]

Sara

[left cedar]

i cope for Tri410 even in mobbing ... cuz Twin 410 dosnt seens to do the trick here

[boreal oriole]

Tldr: PR7. Musashi and Kearsarge got sizable improvements lol

Does Bearcat sea planes Intercept?

[viscid swift]

I mean before this the 410 Kai has been the gun of choice of her for mobbing

[silk sphinx]

and it will continue to be

[frank pulsar]

new 410 could be an option for w13+/opsi mobbing gun no? for sushi

[strange sphinx]

unless the new gun have slow reload but that's a....

[silk sphinx]

I swapped to a triple cv mob fleet, but ig so

[viscid swift]

Oh lamo the base damage is the same

The new gun is garbage then

[wispy pendant]

We thinking Napoli getting onto the pvp meta team?

[opal mauve]

Yeah

[silk sphinx]

she'll likely replace anchorage

laffey can keep manjuu.

but actually prob not, cas are slow. nvm i'm being dumb

[wispy pendant]

Juneua or jintsuum getting the boot?

[frank pulsar]

would halford actually be a decent option for w15 since she has extra seaplanes

[eternal moth]

Juneau

[viscid swift]

It's the same damage base but reloads 2 seconds slower

I don't see the mods saving it

[silk sphinx]

idk about that, she'l just replace ancho

yep as I said

[viscid swift]

Maybe if you +13 it but there are so many things I'd +13 first

[hollow sail]

i have a hard time believing this wasn't just a mistake and it was intended to be aimed (this was my guess for what the plane would be because it would turn out very slightly stronger than ryuusei while being very slightly slower)

[wispy pendant]

Seems cope

[boreal oriole]

It depends remember she only has 250+ avi and 130% eff

She might do Pretty high damage tho plus she got Smokes and Damage debuff

[silk sphinx]

anyhow napoli will be my priority, la9s are the only relevant gear ig

[wispy pendant]

So basically, doesn’t seem as good as pr4/pr5, but at least gives us something to do, and we might want to farm 3-6 of these new ur rocket planes?

[viscid swift]

Actually it does have 15% better damage coefficient

[wispy pendant]

+13 six UR planes sounds painful

[viscid swift]

That might give it a chance at least but I'm done cooking for tons

[dense finch]

Hi, can somebody give me some advice on how to play the game at this stage, 10-2, based on my ships?

[silk sphinx]

need a fleet made?

[frank pulsar]

make thread and post dock there

[silk sphinx]

make a thread. if you have any theory questions we can first refer you to certain general guides; if you've already read them then just ask away

[dense finch]

Yes, I wonder what should I focus on besides retrofit my ships.

[silk sphinx]

ye sure. make a thread, but first check out the newbie tips, unless you've already read them ofc

[dense finch]

fleet help

[wispy pendant]

The good news: you’re in oil cap stages
The bad news: the game is a super long grind until you finally realize: it’s just a waifu collector game.

[dense finch]

Yes I have read most of them

[opal mauve]

Is every gacha like that

[silk sphinx]

this one is better than most, since you can actually collect most/all of them as f2p

[stark quiver]

our pity system is very simple

[silk sphinx]

monetization is skin based, so normal players aren't rly locked out of anything or any characters

[lament bay]

is nakhimov a better stopper than ark royal?

[wispy pendant]

This guy said ark royal

[silk sphinx]

nah. well uh conditional

[inland shoal]

As far as I understand yes, so the stunned enemy is stunned for 2.5s and then joins the 60% slowed ships for another 2.5s

[opal mauve]

Hm... Can't equip La-9 on Kearsarge

[hollow gust]

??

[silk sphinx]

so stop (2.5s) -> slow 60% (2.5s) -> normal?

[lament bay]

yeah im almost done upgrading her

[strange sphinx]

[silk sphinx]

do you know if the enemy needs to have a slow applied to it at the moment of nakhi proc or it just has to have been done previously?

[wispy pendant]

Avp fs5 and implacable are our stop boats these days. Ark royal is just transitional at this point.

[silk sphinx]

also thank you thorin for your help

[whole crypt]

wot

[lament bay]

im using avp on the other fleet already

[rapid grail]

what planes can one equip on Nakhimov

[inland shoal]

Lemme see, gonna have to check Soyuz skill for that cuz it relies on other ships setting a flag

[hollow gust]

Has to be slowed already , for the stop to proc, otherwise it's the 60%

[whole crypt]

are you seriously asking, she's just normal 3F/3v/3T

[opal mauve]

[rapid grail]

browser is lagging my pc atm sorry

[whole crypt]

BBV probably refers to old shit with seaplane slots

[inland shoal]

Looks like having been procced ever is good enough

[plain saffron]

That should include kear

[silk sphinx]

oh that's a lot better. honestly not bad as a stop then... if not for the faction restriction

[plain saffron]

It's hulltype check

[whole crypt]

we'll find out when game is live

well more like when someone actually makes the plane

[wary timber]

Anyone knows for Z47's Emojistorm skill it needs an IB weapon. Does it have to be the gun or the torp for that to work?

[plain saffron]

Why wait we already have the answer bruh

What's the point of the datamine vruh

[whole crypt]

not a huge boost for Kearsarge anyway even if you can use

[eternal moth]

Torp should be fine

[hollow gust]

It's gonna go on the CVs first either way

[plain saffron]

Unless they release a new patch

[wary timber]

Holyshit I could be using a 100mm gun this whole time

[whole crypt]

depends on slot because Kearsarge's fighter slot is surprisingly strong, but Kear is for light so you're sticking with HVAR anyway

[wispy pendant]

The thing now is you can put your +13 hvar on kearsarge now and put the new plane on someone else.

[rose whale]

PR7 today right?

[whole crypt]

eh I'm already using +13 HVAR on kearsarge first

[inland shoal]

Would be nice for med tho where you're stuck with hvar atm

[slow fox]

Can I get a second (or third) opinion on these Napoli smokescreens? Does she spend 6 seconds in a smokescreen per trigger?

[whole crypt]

it's actually better than a lot of the fighter slots out there between eff and plane count

just don't use Kearsarge fleet for medium

[wary timber]

Anyways is this gun good enough on Z47 or should I go for the faster firing gold 100mm to proc her AOA more

[inland shoal]

Should

[wispy pendant]

Would we use kear on a med or heavy boss anyway?

[slow fox]

For 5 smokescreens total, that's 30 seconds in smoke?

[inland shoal]

Yes, 5*6 is 30

[sweet delta]

you can use blue 76

[slow fox]

Practically uhh probably lower.

[hollow gust]

How did she gain 50%

[wary timber]

I could if I had that left

[hollow gust]

Should still be lower than anchor eh?

[wispy pendant]

How high is anchorage ?

[slow fox]

I changed 5 seconds of smokescreen to 30 seconds

[whole crypt]

Napoli drops her own special smoke separately and should stay in it for longer right?

[hollow sail]

so only needs one proc of an NP slow for all airstrikes to gain root?

[eternal moth]

And you're calculating Napoli with heavy armor right>

[south sequoia]

How big is her special smoke

[wispy pendant]

Too bad anchorage is a lot cuter. You will be missed smol girl brain in large girl bod

[slow fox]

Yesssus

[whole crypt]

doesn't really matter she drops it every 0.5s and it only affects herself

so basically a smoke that follows her and only for herself for 5s

[slow fox]

That's pretty uhh based

Maybe 25 seconds total in smokescreen instead of 30?

What even does "after" mean?

[eternal moth]

It looks like she drops a smokescreen for everyone, and then gives herself a special smokescreen

[south sequoia]

If it follows her around wouldnt the average be higher

[slow fox]

That's what I think, yes.

[whole crypt]

I assume every 20s -> deploy normal smoke -> start deploying special smoke and total duration for all smokes basically 5s every 20

[slow fox]

Okay. I'll work with that assupmtion. 25s total, then.

[viscid swift]

What did I say

[whole crypt]

I didn't hear what you said

[viscid swift]

Tankier than Agir

[calm rose]

gdi its cheeky again

[sweet delta]

you didnt say halford

[slow fox]

I have to use my ring on Napoli pog

[plain saffron]

[slow fox]

New eHP queen, I guess.

[south sequoia]

Tankier than agir with fleet protection and potentially high damage??

[viscid swift]

Yes

[south sequoia]

[eternal moth]

I wonder how her damage compares to Agir. Should be higher right?

[plain saffron]

What is a good way to test them

[viscid swift]

But no AB

[slow fox]

We use Bowser's fully operation AL sim

[whole crypt]

as usual I'm not oathing a meta ship because she's not voiced by a VA I give a shit about, will totally break my showdowns

[ember totem]

[plain saffron]

Suggest a way and I'll ask saratoga

[slow fox]

Man, I hope that Napoli's personality makes me want to be enslaved by her. That would justify her high eHP of course.

[whole crypt]

I'm more curious if anyone will finish Napoli in time to see if she works out tanking Wichita M

[shell willow]

how can i check my total tech points for smaller factions not in fleet technology screen?

[left cedar]

and i'm here, thinking ... i did soo much bullshitty on AL about CAs being dmgless ... that they give me 3 in 2ys spawn ...

[viscid swift]

Probably not, we have what 57 days left

[inland shoal]

I read the code, it's drop a fuel shell every 0.5s for 5.1s, every fuel shell creates a smokescreen that lasts 1s

[whole crypt]

ah well, next META maybe

[ember totem]

[plain saffron]

You can't really, other than on the dev ships

[stark quiver]

no way to check, i just use wiki and add the numbers

[whole crypt]

basically what I said

[inland shoal]

So it's first 0.5s in normal smoke, after that 5.5s in her special smoke

[whole crypt]

so barring 🍝 it's a smoke that follows her for 5s

[inland shoal]

For a total of 6s

[slow fox]

6s total

[ember totem]

she's italian so wouldn't 🍝 be inevitable?

[viscid swift]

Still reasonably consistent too it seems

[slow fox]

Isn't this broken AF

[whole crypt]

~~precisely because she's italian we expect 🍝 ~~

[viscid swift]

Eh maybe

But AL was never balanced anyway so...

[sweet delta]

this is a collab with wargaming after all

[whole crypt]

Agir powercrept FS when

[slow fox]

Napoli Agir Brest fleet™️

[south sequoia]

It is

[left cedar]

still breaking my head to decide how i'm gona fit so many THICC in my Op.Si
yooo Devs, give us the 5th and 6th fleet, please ...

[south sequoia]

3 qualities

[plain saffron]

But we already have 5 and 6 (in normal ome)

[south sequoia]

High damage
Fleet protection
Extremely tanky herself

[whole crypt]

perfect for OS mob fleet

[south sequoia]

We just gotta painfully wait 2 - 3 months for on field

[slow fox]

They'll release this when Leviathan Fight comes

[blissful hamlet]

halford only have 1 planes on her slot?

[plain saffron]

Yes but the plane have skill that make it 3

[whole crypt]

floatbear has gear skill to add planes if launched by DD

[south sequoia]

Oh wait, wouldnt this also mean it is an average of 6s uptime of her secondaries having 170% eff as well? @inland shoal

[blissful hamlet]

[plain saffron]

That's prob how they decided how to not gives her 3 aa gun

[left cedar]

5th if u count SSs, dafuck u get the 6th one ?

[slow fox]

Aren't there 2 sub fleets

[inland shoal]

No, as I said 5.5s spent in her special smoke

[whole crypt]

he's counting normal fleet slots not OS

[south sequoia]

Oh right

[blissful hamlet]

halford skill barage have same damage as her floatplane?

[south sequoia]

Then its 5.5s uptime

[whole crypt]

still really b0rk

may or may not lose a shot depending on reload cycle

[south sequoia]

Still pretty cracked

[inland shoal]

If only Shibuki could equip it

[plain saffron]

Yeah i wish

[left cedar]

no, its 1 ... at least i dont have a n2d SSs fleet

[plain saffron]

Does current meta fleet uses agir?

[whole crypt]

you can, I'm using

[plain saffron]

So just slot in too see hmm

[slow fox]

8 fleets

[viscid swift]

The thing is Agir still has her AB she can apply

And for most content surviving isn't an issue

[plain saffron]

Isn't it overkill already with 4 shot/launch

[left cedar]

but i did mention Op.Si ...
not campaign useless ones

not like i use more than 2 fleets in one month

[plain saffron]

Or still rng

That's why i put (in normal)

[steady beacon]

@plain saffron do you have the numbers on Napoli's ghost gun

[viscid swift]

Well for Wichita META I think Napoli would just be better

[steady beacon]

Oh nvm it's already in the sheet, mb

[inland shoal]

Smh check datamine smh

[plain saffron]

Smh my smh

[steady beacon]

Sorry, I forgot to refresh the page

[slow fox]

smh head sm shaking h

[viscid swift]

In other contexts I wouldn't necessarily say it's that cut and dry

[left cedar]

idk if someone can actually get Napoli ready to check it on Michita

[viscid swift]

I really doubt it

[sweet delta]

i know one person who can

[slow fox]

Slimmy!?

[left cedar]

in 55 days ?

[sweet delta]

in 1 hour

[slow fox]

🫵

[inland shoal]

Maybe I prefer it to not be tested

[sweet delta]

not me

[slow fox]

Quyet

[inland shoal]

Rather than know it would be great, but I won't get to use it

[plain saffron]

How

[left cedar]

and he will lvl her in 2-1

[steady beacon]

Oof, 56 days
DR speedrun numbers

[left cedar]

techinically it will be 55, cuz Napoli it will be avaliable after "tomorrow"
for me is "today already"

[plain saffron]

For the science

[opaque galleon]

Nahkimov is dev25 cutoff right?

[left cedar]

[plain saffron]

Wouldn't she be too slow without fleet tech

[left cedar]

Dev25 still lacking Tech stats, and some planes eff%... so 🚮

[inner delta]

other than cb you shouldn't cut off other type dev lv

[opaque galleon]

Is the 40% crit damage a big enough deal to try to pair with soyuz often?

[inner delta]

especially dmg unit since they get tech stat

[slow fox]

Napoli cutoff at Dev 15 for tankiness

[left cedar]

she need to be synced, without techstats this gona be quite hardish to do, specially in short fights ...

also, if paired with Soyuz, even harder to be paired without tech ...

[summer sable]

How is Halford looking

[forest palm]

just get tech 4head

[left cedar]

niched, without use in meta fleets, pretty much collectionable

[forest palm]

It's too early to give any sort of proper judgment, paper testing can only go so far

[boreal oriole]

Tf is that take. Looks like most SSR ships in game then

UR brianrot

[wary robin]

Loosing 40% cdm by using without soyuz sounds like noticable dmg loss, no?

[left cedar]

just w8 2-3ys to see URs competing between themselfs to boots someone in metafleets ...
4 New URs per year + 2 DRs ...

[plain saffron]

Collection

[left cedar]

wut, did i write something wrong?
type it and gameplay ...

[forest palm]

You can look at anything as collection, like Hindenburg is just collection fodder if you take it to an extreme

[plain saffron]

Where does other tier goes
Is it just meta and collection tier now

[ember totem]

the worst tier is don't clog my dock space tier

[left cedar]

isnt always like that ?

[plain saffron]

But you don't need to pull

Nice edit

[opaque galleon]

Does nahkimov displace Enty in anti-light?

Or is she more anti-heavy/med

[sweet delta]

enty was already displaced by kear in general

[supple verge]

so is napoli meant to be built for damage like hindenburg or more tankiness like agir or a hybrid of both?

[left cedar]

sit and w8 for practical tests, come back in something like 75days ...

till there, noone will have Nakhi D30 with practical tests to proof they points, theorically things can go to moon...

for wut seens
napoli is the newest eHP queen, but with somehow big dmg output
the eHP seens mostly solid thing for now, dmg i have my doubts on it, but probally, yeah, Hindy lvls

[silk sphinx]

so does like mebot sheet work with 100s total or summat?

[cloud fractal]

Are any of these ships besides Indep worth it in the core shop? Or just keep buying copies of white and black shells?

[stark quiver]

If you want collection

[left cedar]

pretty much, noone aside indep is worth it if u are a new player, after u get the basics for BBs, SSs and timing for CVs, yeah, u are gud to go completing ur collection rate if u wanna, i just advice to keep at least a safe margin to a surprise addictions into core shop

[silk sphinx]

the ships? just indep

[faint kite]

is there a cap to how much specialized core you can have? like i have 37k rn wondering if i can hoard further

[steady beacon]

None
Hoard as much as you like

[left cedar]

is there a cap of how much u can farm into a month, not a hardcap into max stored

[cloud fractal]

If we’re talking about the rainbow cores since I don’t remember the official name, you can only accumulate 5000 through the month.

[south sequoia]

5k a month from farm but you can gain 6k max per month

[left cedar]

thats is wut i say there, a cap into a month, not into maxed stored

[steady beacon]

There is the 5000 monthly cap ye (+1000 from medals)
But isn't he just asking about max cap total

(Which, if it exists, is probably some kind of unreachable overflow number I'm guessing)

[faint kite]

yep yep i was wondering about the max cap not the monthly income cap. anyways thanks y'all

[silk sphinx]

Nntkkt has over 110k, don’t worry

[zinc turret]

my 1 braincell cant process what he asking lol , aint the cap how much u can farm a month is that 5k + 1k from medal shop , for the max stored is unlimited i guess

[cloud fractal]

I think collectively a few of us were answering different people. lol

[steady beacon]

Just another day at the office

[cloud fractal]

I don’t even belong in this office.

[left cedar]

GPH hive mind when?

[slow fox]

90s total

[sweet delta]

87
🚪🏃‍♂️

[hallow iron]

Is AvP good? Thinking of getting her after anchorage

[red stag]

maintenance today?

[left cedar]

in 28m begins a 8hr maint

[lament bay]

is there a new construction after update?

[jaunty vault]

no

no new event pool

[crimson glacier]

yeah we got something better

[urban grail]

Is this the first heavy-armored CA we’re getting

[crimson glacier]

yes

[icy mountain]

should i stay in pr4 until i complete both agir and haku? and of course 2 tenrais?

[crimson glacier]

2 tenrais will take way too long imo

[icy mountain]

im almost there though

[hollow gust]

Should be 3 months max

[icy mountain]

already halfway through my 2nd tenrai, its just that haku and agir will take a very long time

[crimson glacier]

i see

[icy mountain]

i havent even reached 200 bps on both of them which is unlucky

[crimson glacier]

also no one is getting 2 tenrais in 3 months

[hollow gust]

One from protocore and other from research

[hollow gust]

Take the correct research and it will be quite quick

[shell willow]

is it joever for my nakhimov if my only slowing np unit is pamiat 💀

[inner delta]

your slowing unit?

[crimson glacier]

unit with skill that slows the enemy

[cobalt rapids]

why not chkalov or soyuz

[eternal basalt]

As CV pamiat shouldn't help

[inner delta]

yea i get that but, why would that be over for nakhimov when there's other ship other than NP

[crimson glacier]

coz it needs to be NP

[cobalt rapids]

she needs a NP ship for her freeze

[inner delta]

the slow need to be NP?

oh

[shell willow]

didnt play for ~3 years

[crimson glacier]

her skill turns into root if enemy is slowed by another NP ship before

[inner delta]

icic

[cloud fractal]

With the PR7 stuff, are we switching to the new stuff or keep working on the other older ships, even if we have the tech to develop?

[remote yarrow]

What season are you at currently?

If PR4 stay there and finish it

[cloud fractal]

I’m working on PR4.

Got it.

[fiery raptor]

has people tested running drake in w15? how does she do? hope i can at least exp/aff grind her on safe

same question with hindenburg with them being later arrivals becaus slacc

[inner delta]

both are not preferrable on w15

[cobalt rapids]

u can xp/aff grind alot of stuff on 15-1 safe if bringing enough carries

[fiery raptor]

by carries you mean aa monsters like guam/laffii/sandy with aug?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[inner delta]

but like if you just doing that, why not just farm exp at 12/13 then

[cobalt rapids]

musashi unicorn guam usually

[fiery raptor]

houston ii mlb by dupes autism, my apologies

[silver lintel]

But thats 15-4

[inner delta]

houston is 15-4 which is way harder

[kind needle]

Can’t understand about Nakhimov’s skills, could someone enlighten me?

[cobalt rapids]

which part

[silver lintel]

Basically ur cv stonks, slow turns into stop with another np slow

[kind needle]

The np requirement for slow

[fiery raptor]

yeah my carries/clearing team are hittin 2mil cap so i'm trying to rotate in some ships for 125-ing

[cobalt rapids]

if the enemy is slowed by another np ship when her slow applies, her slow turns into a freeze

[shell willow]

and also increases self cdmg to those enemies by 40%

[crimson glacier]

what part of it is confusing

[kind needle]

I understand now… so, which NP ships have slow?

[cobalt rapids]

among the relevant ones soyuz and chkalov

[inland shoal]

Hmm this isn't exactly right, updated the skill desc

[crimson glacier]

if soyuz fits the team then she is way better than any other np

[cobalt rapids]

huh so its just one time and then she freezes for the remainder of the fight

[crimson glacier]

well thats much better

[inland shoal]

But only other ships count

[cobalt rapids]

does it work with kron xfleet

[inland shoal]

Yes

[pale niche]

Is the UR fighter bombs or rockets?

[cobalt rapids]

rockets

[inland shoal]

Well rockets are also bombs, so both?

[stark quiver]

Is the maintainence only 1 hour

[plain saffron]

No

[crimson glacier]

8 hours as usual

[cobalt rapids]

prob confused the prewarning

[rose whale]

gonna try rushing napoli after maint end

[crimson glacier]

bad taste i see

[stark quiver]

How much oil do I need to rush both cdc in 12-1

[pale niche]

Is there passive intercept?

[silver lintel]

Prolly 24k oil

[crimson glacier]

natural oil regen should be enough to do exp farms within time gates

[kind needle]

Which ships needed for Nakhimov’s CDC?

[silver lintel]

So new ur fighter is kear buff, can we run kear vs anything now

[crimson glacier]

i doubt it changes kear usage at all

[sleek spade]

what's kear used for anyway

[crimson glacier]

some meta battles or challenge modes

[sleek spade]

breh... I thought she'd have more use

[crimson glacier]

well she kinda just sucks on campaign

[whole crypt]

define "more use"

[inland shoal]

Well atm it just can't be used on Kear

[whole crypt]

you can use her in ch12 and 13 without much issue

[faint cloud]

ok vit-2 converging

[crimson glacier]

just like most ships

[steady beacon]

It can't?

[whole crypt]

but her lack of proper secondaries don't really work on 14+

[sleek spade]

idk. just sth that's not niche boss fights

[crimson glacier]

like cmon DR ships doing w13 is just nothing

[sleek spade]

yea makes sense

[boreal oriole]

It means Kear fleet will be ahead of IJN on Med

[whole crypt]

the game is made of grinding up to ch13, ch14/15, OS mush and OS/META fights

[silver lintel]

Wdym

[steady beacon]

Is it like some kind of weird classification difference despite being a fighter

[whole crypt]

apparently excludes BBVs for hull type

[inland shoal]

It is coded with can't equip on BBV

[silver lintel]

Wtf

[steady beacon]

Oh, I see
Shame

[whole crypt]

but doesn't really affect her for anti-light

[crimson glacier]

based

[steady beacon]

So I'll just use her same as always then

[fiery raptor]

ur fighter has no intercept like the rocket planes?

[inland shoal]

Yes

[crimson glacier]

i mean even if it did it would be useless

[vale spindle]

if you don't see a field "intercept rof" in the datamine, it doesn't have intercept

[fiery raptor]

yea that's what i noticed

[crimson glacier]

bombs are just better on campaign

[vale spindle]

unless nagami fucked up

[whole crypt]

post-FS Hakuryuu is still better for med anyway so just throw the plane on IJN comp for med

[boreal oriole]

Nah I'll put it on Kear

[fiery raptor]

oh it is a rocket plane because S-21 ok. i'll just let the wyverns keep multiplying

[whole crypt]

part of the point was the La-9 doesn't fit on Kearsarge

[fiery raptor]

or maybe 9 is a time to stop

i'll hold on the bp for now

[vale spindle]

dive bombers don't fit on shirakami fubuki yet she has one

[whole crypt]

in Kearsarge anti-light comp Kearsarge's fighter slot is unironically the strongest fighter slot but ah well

[silver lintel]

So how bayard looking, better than harbin or nah

[vale spindle]

all the ships are preliming big number

except the ssr bb 😔 URs good what can i say

[whole crypt]

Bayard didn't look big for skills and stats is it her barrages

[steady beacon]

Are there numbers for this?

[boreal oriole]

Her barrage is looking good for mob

• Bayard

[whole crypt]

didn't Hakuryuu come back above Yorktown II comp after FS for medium?

[vale spindle]

her skill barrage is 10s, and both skill and aoa are good

[fiery raptor]

is kearsarge yrkii enterprise and upgrade from the avp yrkii enterpise anti med/light compo?

[vale spindle]

also mgm+2 and trp+2 lul

[steady beacon]

Oh you meant individual
Thought you meant total comp
I think that is true ye

[hard mesa]

Prob same case, i mean vit2 also has BBV under not equipable

[tulip ibex]

After the event ends, is the Lucky bag still available if it's in the mail box?

[vale spindle]

yes cause mail don't get deleted unless you go overcap

[boreal oriole]

Oh well, I thought it's for Medium armor the discussion

[tulip ibex]

Thanks

[hollow gust]

Or you can just not use enty

[ember totem]

[fickle scarab]

Anyone know slot of the new ur plane?

[south sequoia]

Fighter

Before you ask, kear cant equip it

[kind needle]

If my 12-4 is now safe, can I ignore the Airspace requirement?

[crimson glacier]

no

it works the same way as always

[tidal meteor]

??? Pretty sure Kear can equip fighters

[vale spindle]

plane specifically can't be equipped by bbv
hard coded into the plane

[tidal meteor]

But she can't equip the float bearcat, I think

Seriously? That sucks

[crimson glacier]

barely matters

[kind needle]

Or should I least make it to Superiority?

[plain saffron]

She can equip fighter
But that fighter can't be equipped on bbv

[boreal oriole]

It's referring to the Old BBVs

[crimson glacier]

why would it refer to those

[plain saffron]

Old bbv kear bbv both bbv

[crimson glacier]

they literally dont have fighter slot

[plain saffron]

Ouh new patch

[tidal meteor]

Well we'll see for sure once we've farmed up the BPs

[plain saffron]

Why people refuse to believe bruh

[inland shoal]

Btw looks like Daisen float has 212 planes in the end

[plain saffron]

People keep saying let's wait untip people get her. Until we raised her. It's literally in game data

[crimson glacier]

ppl are stupid

[finite crag]

Severe copium inhalation can lead to serious damage

[inland shoal]

Let's wait until cn malds and the game data changes

[hard mesa]

But why the torp bomber also tag BBV as unequippable

[plain saffron]

no UR fighter, can't equip

[inland shoal]

Cuz otherwise Hyuuga for example could equip it

[south sequoia]

Because god forbid bbvs outside rainbows be good

[hard mesa]

Isnt her slot floatplane?

[tidal meteor]

Is this the only fighter that has that code?

[inland shoal]

That's what the game tells you, but in reality no

[forest palm]

well even the rainbow BBV is getting shafted...

[hard mesa]

But hyuuga cant equip fighter?

[plain saffron]

Meanwhile ix can't equip everything even the thing they shouldn't be anyway

You said tb?

[sweet delta]

hi dalao how many hours per day have you spent in opsi?

[inland shoal]

Oh wait torp bomber, I read dive bomber lol

[plain saffron]

3 millions

[inland shoal]

The torp bomber not being equippable on BBV is just useless cuz it can't anyway

[plain saffron]

They should rework the hull thingy display

[crisp estuary]

How's the new DD

[hard mesa]

The game consider this as torp bomber so bbv tag were removed on other torp bomber?

[south sequoia]

Gimmicky

We need to see her on field before we actually say anything concrete about her, its a bit hard to rate her

[plain saffron]

It's not actually a torpedo bomber
If you filter by tb it doesn't show up

[fickle scarab]

The f8f on the new plane is the same as the one we already have right?

[hard mesa]

[inland shoal]

Game is cursed, the display and actual code doesn't fully agree on a lot of these

[plain saffron]

Why does it have tb in name? Idk what devs smoking

[inner delta]

no bearcat in game have bomb, this one is a float plane ver that has rockets

[fickle scarab]

Talking about the skill for said plane

[turbid glade]

Hotfixes maybe ?

[plain saffron]

Just fix for simulation

[inland shoal]

Yes it just multiplies the plane by 4
Not for intercept tho sadly

[inner delta]

but you were asking about the new bearcat huh

wait im confused, thorin enlighten me

[shadow yarrow]

How mid is halford

[plain saffron]

New bear have skills if on dd

[whole crypt]

the skill on floatbear is specific to floatbear when used on on DD

[plain saffron]

Does it use same buff as bb?

[inner delta]

o

[fickle scarab]

K thanks

And kear not equipping the ur is bug?

[inner delta]

no

[fickle scarab]

Huh????

[inner delta]

nagami said it up there, it's specifically coded to not to

[boreal oriole]

She can

[hard mesa]

[turbid glade]

No, the La-9 is specifically coded to not be equipable by BBV's.

[boreal oriole]

HVAR and Bf109gs Datamine also has that restrictions. But in game she can what?

[cobalt rapids]

lol hes right

[inner delta]

but

this is bf109

[boreal wagon]

its bc they used to have those restrictions before kear dropped

[crimson glacier]

coz kear is only one with fighter slot

[tidal meteor]

Anyways if true, hope the CN Bros can shout at Manjuu/Yongshi loud enough to change it

[whole crypt]

my personal opinion is it makes no difference whether Kearsarge can use La-9, because it's an anti-med/heavy plane and you only use Kearsarge for anti-light

[crimson glacier]

i mean it doesnt even matter if kear can or cant use it anyway

[fickle scarab]

The ur fighters have rockets or bombs?

[crimson glacier]

it wont change kear in a meaningful way

[tidal meteor]

??? Kear with twin 457 and HVAR is still pretty good against med armour

[cobalt rapids]

rockets

[whole crypt]

except nowadays you can just use IJN comp for medium as well after Hakuryuu's FS

[cobalt rapids]

well just because its in code doesnt necesarilly mean its intended just wait and see

[crisp estuary]

[inland shoal]

Yup
As someone pointed out to me the same thing was true for HVARs at first

Tho idk anymore if those were before or after Kear tbh

[boreal wagon]

before

[inland shoal]

Then ig all fighters had that restriction until Kear arrived

[boreal wagon]

they used to just slap restrictions for BBVs on almost all planes because before kear dropped BBV slots were defined as "any plane"

[inland shoal]

Is there any fighter that was added added after Kear?

[boreal wagon]

with kear dropping they removed fighters from the old BBVs and removed fighter restrictions

[sweet delta]

what does HERK mean?

[spring bolt]

CN has no reaction to that, i guess they don't care

[boreal wagon]

i dont believe so but i dont entirely remember

[crisp estuary]

Woah, old names

[turbid glade]

Any reactions in general to PR7 or they're just dead quiet ?

[hard mesa]

New shiden kai on feb gearlab update

[inland shoal]

High explosive reactive knockout

[boreal wagon]

but i do distinctly remember that when kear dropped HVARs had the restriction a while before maint ended because they forgot to remove it on just those

so its not entirely impossible they just blindly added the restriction to the new plane

[crisp estuary]

What reaction. Everyone's playing ZZZ prolly

[inland shoal]

Note to self for later

[spring bolt]

halford skill 2 seems bugged, barrage damage decrease at lv10
new planes are good, rest are not important
not much else

[turbid glade]

The usual complaints that led to Haku being hotfixed buffed in PR4 that type of reaction

[crisp estuary]

Something wrong with the Soviet CV?

[turbid glade]

Nah DR's are good

can't say the same for stuff like Daisen

[sweet delta]

• twin 410 mod A: For Musashi only. Replaces Izumo gun for heavy in triple BB bossing, replaces twin 410 kai for mobbing. The reload time of Izumo with +11 autoloader is the same.
• Triple 152 model 1936: an anti-medium one trick, it approaches ply gun on medium but still loses. And its light and heavy are garbage
• Triple 254 model 1939: a slightly better Kursk gun which is not very impressive
• La-9: reloads slower but completely eclipses all other fighters for medium/heavy damage. Slower reload can be a bad to slightly good thing. Against heavy, is comparable to Saiun in overall CV damage but is much slower.
• Bearcat seaplane: Halford
• VIT-2 (mode change): an Allied converging TB, highest damage (102.5% of ryuusei) and slowest reload time (102% of ryuusei)

[inner delta]

@vale spindle can you combine this with the datamine so we don't need to do another pin

[crisp estuary]

Quad 30mm?

[sleek spade]

So you’re saying only la-9 and twin 410mm is worth using

[sweet delta]

Twin 410 is questionable

Well no problem if you drop another 120 gold plates

[sleek spade]

Hmmm I dont have Musashi so it would be useless for me too…

So only la 9 then

[tame crypt]

damn is daisen that bad lmao

[sweet delta]

No

[spring bolt]

new vit-2 is converging, if i am not mistaken

[sweet delta]

She seems to be a worse owari so depends on your definition of bad I guess

[sleek spade]

just use Owari

[tame crypt]

ah i see

[sleek spade]

Is vk107 worth using in the first place?

It has no guns. I guess torp spam for mobbing is fun?

[cobalt rapids]

when u dont have the rainbow parallels

[spring bolt]

the new vit-2 is same level of dps as saiun/ryuusei/ju, but slowest rld and highest dph
usable, i guess

[sleek spade]

But I do have skypirate

The US lab torp bomber

[cobalt rapids]

ally plane converging ?

[sweet delta]

yes it is converging

[calm rose]

So its side grade for timing?

[cobalt rapids]

actually mode change makes sense now

[hollow sail]

is it fully confirmed now, because it made no sense for it to not be so i never believed that it wasn't

[hard mesa]

[honest cradle]

What's better vs light armor: La-9 or bf109g?

[hollow sail]

La-9 is slightly better

[spring bolt]

pretty much
but given the fact that fighters getting slower (yes i mean la9 being very slow), you will probably ended up using saiun more than all 3 side grades

[sweet delta]

~10% better for a typical whole CV

ignoring reload time

[honest cradle]

But triple the plates to +13

[sweet delta]

top is pr7 vit2, middle is pr5 vit2, bottom is ryuusei

51653 is a TORPEDO that is aimed at an enemy within a square
63.18s reload, 236 dmg, scaling on 100% of AVI, 100% coefficient,
4 bullets of: bullet_2118 is a TORPEDO with 80/110/130% armor, 3 diameter, 100±10 range, 3 velocity. {"diveFilter": [2]}.
    queue: 1

51633 is a TORPEDO that is unaimed
66.51s reload, 236 dmg, scaling on 100% of AVI, 100% coefficient,
6 bullets of: bullet_2118 is a TORPEDO with 80/110/130% armor, 3 diameter, 100±10 range, 3 velocity. {"diveFilter": [2]}.
    queue: 1

51473 is a TORPEDO that is aimed at an enemy within a square
63.18s reload, 307 dmg, scaling on 100% of AVI, 100% coefficient,
3 bullets of: bullet_2112 is a TORPEDO with 80/110/130% armor, 3 diameter, 100±10 range, 3 velocity. {"diveFilter": [2]}.
    queue: 1```

[hollow sail]

same reload as ryusei? thought it was bit slower

[honest cradle]

Why do you say ViT-2nos slowest reload? Looks like same reload speed as ryuusei?

[cobalt rapids]

datamine says slower

[sweet delta]

that's the reload time of the torpedoes on the plane

not the reload time of the torpedo plane

[honest cradle]

Gotcha

[hollow sail]

planes reload their torpedoes...

[cobalt rapids]

whats the reload time of the torpedoes on the plane do ?
each torp drops withing each other ?

[honest cradle]

Plus 2x2, pattern I'd imagine the 2nd two are less likely to hit if boss is moving?

[cobalt rapids]

mby better yet each wave of torps within each other

[blissful hamlet]

is the new torps bomber a converging?

[sweet delta]

maybe if the plane stays on the screen for a minute, it can launch another wave of torps 🔮

[blissful hamlet]

is it good or just ryusei sidegrades?

[honest cradle]

So slower flight speed would be good?

[hard mesa]

sidegrade based on dmg

[fossil shard]

Isn’t all this new stuff supposed to be better. Why is it trash?

[calm rose]

They wont stay for a minute

[blissful hamlet]

so just a timing adjust

[fossil shard]

They gonna bring new content where it’s relevant?

[sweet delta]

if the plane has 0 speed then it'll stay on screen for a minute. maybe...

[inner delta]

not all new thing is good

[cobalt rapids]

wdym

[wary robin]

wait, new VIT-2 is not converging, no?

[cobalt rapids]

its converging

[calm rose]

Apparently it is converging

[honest cradle]

That's what I'm trying to understand. Hopefully we're missing something and gear will prove better in practice...

[blissful hamlet]

huh slightly higher damage than ryusei

[fossil shard]

Been reading that the new stuff coming is worse than what’s already there. What’s the point of bringing the new then?

[blissful hamlet]

how's the reload compared to the others?

[inland shoal]

A lot of things have that thing where the reload is just so high they won't ever give off more than one shot
Guess that was easier than making special code

[cobalt rapids]

each seasons has its own highlights for gear and then forgotten stuff just like this season

[finite crag]

if everything is just strictly better thats a disaster waiting to happen

[hollow sail]

it's good that not all gear is best every season, that's too much powercreep. some gold gear is just there to be decent options for newer players who want to research on that season

[spring bolt]

dps is very close to 3 old converging tbs, slightly higher dph than ryuusei, slightly slowr than ryuusei
btw the plane travel speed is also slow

[sweet delta]

Unfortunate

[cyan sierra]

The new plane beats everyone on every armor. Now +13 6 of it. (Joking)

Honestly old planes are still fine.

[blissful hamlet]

so it sucks

[fossil shard]

What’s the name of that plane?

[spring bolt]

well, usable when you are going after dph
not game changing

[blissful hamlet]

pretty sure the difference is microscopical

[cyan sierra]

Powercreep, especially meta defining ones, always hits the gold plates hard.

It was a joke.

[shell willow]

whats dph?

[cobalt rapids]

damage per hour

[spring bolt]

damage per hit

[inner delta]

rhenhex trolling

time to ban

[shell willow]

ah

[sweet delta]

Just call it alpha damage

[tulip thorn]

Will they survive 14-1?

[sweet delta]

Possibly

[cobalt rapids]

on safe with proper carries ? maybe

[tulip thorn]

What if i use an SR DD?

[calm rose]

Farm at w12

[sterile jolt]

Depends on ship, not rarity

[cobalt rapids]

sr dd doesnt change much if its squishier

[sweet delta]

I've used full 100-105 purple- dd/cl vanguard

[tulip thorn]

I've always farmed 14-1 with 1 SR, 1 R, 1 Elite

[spring bolt]

iirc for safe farming lv105 is enough

[tulip thorn]

Oh oki

[calm rose]

Maybe im overestimating the difficulty of 14-1

[tulip thorn]

Yes too much

[fickle scarab]

Even hvar on light?

[sterile jolt]

It's a joke

[cyan sierra]

No. Hvar is still rules on light.

[cobalt rapids]

hvar on light is the only rocket/armor combination it doesnt beat

[cyan sierra]

And that's forgetting the +13 problem for rainbows.

[cobalt rapids]

yea but u dont need 6 of em

[sweet delta]

Jokes aren't allowed in gph so that sound like a ban

[wide marsh]

Just curious, but will rocket fighters do more damage than dedicated dive bombers vs light/medium armor?

[fickle scarab]

Skyraider still rules light/med

[cyan sierra]

Yes. And now, heavy. Wait... skyraider.

[cobalt rapids]

should beat skyraider on med but not on light

considering db get only 0.8 avi scaling

[plain saffron]

https://streamable.com/4evkaw

[wary robin]

which one planes coming from her barrage?

[sweet delta]

the fast

[calm rose]

the really fast torps

[cobalt rapids]

is tako stop timing a coincidence ? nahkimov isnt rooting by herself right

[shell willow]

i just noticed that too

[spring bolt]

looks like her move pattern

[blissful hamlet]

is it true that kear can't use the new plane

[cobalt rapids]

its true

[blissful hamlet]

is this intentional game design

[cobalt rapids]

we dont know

[south sequoia]

Stay tuned

[blissful hamlet]

so kear can't use the plane they specifically added for her

[south sequoia]

Huh

[calm rose]

thats the new CV plane

[south sequoia]

Since when was la-9 kears plane

[boreal oriole]

Sam said The CN guy that posted that was just meming. But yeah we'll just wait. Can't use a gear without that gear

[south sequoia]

Wasnt it nakhimovs

[calm rose]

yes it belong to nakhimovs in wows

[blissful hamlet]

kear skill require her to use USS or NP fighter, and now she can't use the only NP fighter in the game

[south sequoia]

Oh well

Not like it'll change her in a meaningful way

[blissful hamlet]

doesn't matter, they wrote those skill for this occasion

[plain saffron]

Who's meming

[blissful hamlet]

and they blew it

[south sequoia]

Eh

[plain saffron]

Ngl this new fighter give me best entertainment for the year

[cobalt rapids]

yea its her move pattern

[blissful hamlet]

it would be mega cringe if kear still can't use the new plane

[plain saffron]

Why would it

[boreal oriole]

Naganami a CN playa

[inner delta]

he is not a cn player

[plain saffron]

This nagami guy sounds op

[boreal oriole]

Oh MB then

[inner delta]

dfg is a cn player but not nagami

[boreal oriole]

So yeah btw, and some people goes along with that rumor and spreads like wild fire

[plain saffron]

Damn people would do anything to cope

Even ingame screenshot is not enough to counter them

[hollow sail]

is it known if halford can equip catapult

[cobalt rapids]

just wait and see

[plain saffron]

She can't

[calm rose]

i just noticed her AVI is tiny

[whole crypt]

oh shi is JP up?

[plain saffron]

Idk

[whole crypt]

yeh it is

[agile sky]

I have:
Izumo-Roon
FdG-Kita-Gascog
Chesire
And All of Pr4

Who should i work on next, and will P7 mean anything to me now or not for the near future?

[cobalt rapids]

what does have mean ? built or fully deved?

[agile sky]

Built
Asking for who to unlock next.

[cobalt rapids]

it doesnt matter, unlock the one thats closes to max dev

[agile sky]

Anchor, Fdg and chesire are close to mlb rn

Also, rn all my locked ship bp are super close to each other that it really doesnt make a diff...theyre all under 20 with single digit difference lol

[brave magnet]

Napoli smokescreen

[cobalt rapids]

yes past pr4 it doesnt make a diff because theyll be unusable

[agile sky]

Oof

[wary timber]

Is it worth finishing the Akashi missions btw. I've put that off since ... the start really

[steady beacon]

Rewards are rewards I suppose
Also scam cat if you want her

[wary timber]

Considering that she's basically a mobile AA fortress ...

[hollow sail]

not worth to sacrifice 10 days of more core data for a useless boat

[calm rose]

shes also a waste of a slot

[inland shoal]

You misspelt immobile

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't be worried about picking Akashi up unless you're really down to just wrapping up collection

[turbid dawn]

What are the initial impressions of PR7? From reading the datamine nothing seems to stand out compared to what we already have unless i'm missing something

[whole crypt]

Napoli stands out

[turbid dawn]

The CA? Tbh it just seems like she'll be a tankier, less dmg version of Hinden

[boreal oriole]

All are good

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't count on the "less damage" part

and she's much tankier

[tranquil saffron]

Should I get Shimanto for w15 or just use someone else?
The grind is quite easy and I can Dev 30 her quite fast since I have a good chunk of prints already

[whole crypt]

Shimanto is overall decent DPS and bulk as well even besides AA

[turbid dawn]

I mean the fact her MGM is only +1, the CL guns are only at 70% and only go to 140 for 25% of the fight, she's deffo tankier but her dmg seems probs between Ply+Hinden

[whole crypt]

the CL guns are going to be 170%, not 140, and she also has a special secondary on top

and it's two secondary mounts, not the usual 1

[tranquil saffron]

I'm just asking if she's worth the time because I see many people using her on w15 and it wouldn't be too much trouble for me to get her and I do want to clear w15 soon

[crimson glacier]

i feel like you didnt look at napoli at all

[turbid dawn]

True but if 75% of the time those 2 gun mounts are only at 70% that's pretty bad, no?

[crimson glacier]

she also has special secondary gun

[whole crypt]

do you have other robust AA options, because if you don't then going for Shimanto is pretty much a straight yes

[crimson glacier]

and 2x70 is still better than almost any other ship

[whole crypt]

it's not bad considering most secondary mounts are also around the same efficiency with one mount

[crimson glacier]

shes also heavy armor by default and has 7k+ hp

[whole crypt]

and a very good smoke

[tranquil saffron]

I don't know what what ships are good at that role besides sandy which I do have

[whole crypt]

Guam at least, Laffey II is also pretty good

[tranquil saffron]

I've got both