gameplay-help

[whole crypt]

#al-general #off-topic

[jaunty vault]

i dont see how stating facts about gameplay doesn't belong here

[keen sable]

how are we supposed to know who a gph mod is?

[south sequoia]

Gee I wonder who the 4 most common moderators to show up in gph are...

[jaunty vault]

yuki, zuyi, yuni and thorin fosho

[south sequoia]

Screenshot sent to ender

[tiny gulch]

guys, please pick 3 eagle vgs for me to prep for halford

should i just do triple cleve? that's probably the best fleet tech choice right

[whole crypt]

any 3 that can survive

[tiny gulch]

it's just 12-4

i've got these 6 in the dorms

[whole crypt]

so any 3 that can survive

[remote yarrow]

How long does it take for PR Quests to be added after a season is released? Like the ones that give CDPs

[fathom sable]

Which ammo type that Ägir desire the most? or most people use

[sweet merlin]

does w15 have lighthouss/ flare system?

[silver lintel]

No

[remote yarrow]

Most ppl just use her gun/PR4 CB Gun

[clever lance]

Does autoplay always make you use gems to buy oil if you run out?

[sweet merlin]

are there oil cap for chap 15?

[remote yarrow]

No, you should never buy oil with gems as a F2P

[sweet delta]

any good gun (prefer CB over CA gun) that's not HE

[jaunty vault]

best fleet for challenge mood pls

[jaunty vault]

yes

[shell willow]

pr5 mission got added 2024 jan along with catchup, i just searched for "rookie" and it didnt show up there

[sweet delta]

why ask about chapter 15 when you're stuck on 13

[clever lance]

I’m not saying I’m buying it… I’m asking if the autoplay automatically buys it.. is there a setting to turn it off?

[remote yarrow]

No it doesn't, that would be really dumb if it did considering that it's either really limited or paid with real life money

[shell willow]

[remote yarrow]

It just tells you if you wanna buy oil with gems

[fathom sable]

How about Twin 203mm?

[remote yarrow]

How do you plan to use Agir and don't have her gun?

[sweet delta]

the thing is that this exactly

[remote yarrow]

You are either trying to use her on a really low dev level, which you shouldn't or haven't crafted it over at Depot > Craft

[whole crypt]

the cope for Agir on Wichita META is drake gun

[remote yarrow]

If you are wondering which one is it, is this one

it doesn't show the CB variant

[sweet delta]

why ping me

[hard mesa]

[whole crypt]

because I'm EN-ing when I have no time to actually scroll up properly

[sweet delta]

under BB gun filter in the depot craft

[remote yarrow]

I'm wondering why is that?

[whole crypt]

because EN translation fail

[remote yarrow]

Happened to me a few weeks ago while trying to find my CB guns

[jaunty vault]

hello pls answer guys 😭🙏

[sweet delta]

most people would probably use triple BB to shoot the claw

[fathom sable]

I had her at dev26 right now but no idea if it's considered useable

[jaunty vault]

am i most people

[ember totem]

no you're cooper

[ebon verge]

are we getting pr7 ships?

[remote yarrow]

Yeah she's "usable" as like she can tank just fine at 25, and for guns just use her own don't bother with Twin 203 SKC

[whole crypt]

how do you have Agir at d26 without enough prints for her gun

[remote yarrow]

Maybe he hasn't crafted it

[fathom sable]

Which gun is hers exactly?

[remote yarrow]

You should try scrolling up next time

[steady beacon]

@whole crypt , can now personally confirm CV 3-strike can kill with 1 scan provided insane favourable RNG

[jaunty vault]

why not 4 strike

[steady beacon]

It takes Helena not proc'ing Manjuu until like 0:10 to give Kear's last strike time to chip off the last bar

[steady beacon]

Try it for yourself
If you can make the damn thing work, please let me know

[whole crypt]

I'm not doubting the comp can 1 scan but I'm not staring at the screen until the stars align

[jaunty vault]

im on level3 so i bet i can make it work

[whole crypt]

3 strike comps are more consistent than 4 strike because vanguard survivability is ass

[fathom sable]

Ah, i noticed the PR4 gun but forgot to scroll up to make sure of it

[steady beacon]

In any event, that's the comp I'm recommending and the one I think I'm sticking with, barring some major sea change
Even if few other people can replicate 5 HVARcats

[whole crypt]

yes that's agir gun, if you have enough prints for that then it's good for her

[steady beacon]

I'll retest Als/Kear/YII when I get the second gun to +13, but I think there's already more than enough evidence that it's a 2-scan kill as well

[whole crypt]

well my rolls lastnight were pretty bad but I don't remember changing any RLD or messing any gear up

[fathom sable]

I had more than enough
Thanks for the reminder!

[whole crypt]

that gun is pretty much fair game for any CBs besides pre-FS Azuma

[steady beacon]

Als/Kear/YII doesn't need any RLD change surely right

Or, at least, when I did it, it was max-max

[whole crypt]

last 2 nights were 1/5

sometimes at like 1.3M+

[sweet delta]

what datamine

[keen sable]

the last three columns are totals...

[steady beacon]

Ah, the whims of RNG
Still, I mean, as a theoretical thing it's pre good
Anyway, maybe PR7 equips might change shit a little bit...
Attendre et esperer

[remote yarrow]

Speak American dangit 🦅

[whole crypt]

well not like it matters barrage starting soon

I also haven't actually watched the fights pretty much since last Sunday

[steady beacon]

There's like a week left, now that you remind me
I hate the damn barrage

[whole crypt]

well by the time I have time to pay attention to AL again barrage will have started

[plain saffron]

because only EN use BB gun
in other server it's small/medium/large caliber

[remote yarrow]

[plain saffron]

skills also say "large caliber gun" so idk why

[steady beacon]

[cobalt rapids]

~~Ca main guns are also clustered under cl mg filter yet no1 minds that ~~

[plain saffron]

bcs at least it's mentioned

meanwhile CB is nowhere to be seen

[keen sable]

that makes sense if EN wasn't localized correctly. explains why CA guns are under CL when it's supposed to medium

[plain saffron]

idk why they even change it, does JP use CL/CA or medium
i suspect they copy from JP

[cobalt rapids]

What is mentioned

[plain saffron]

in sort it's CA/CL
and it have CA and CL gun

meawhile for the BB/CB, it only says BB, no CB
but have both

[whole crypt]

EN fail
JP is also small/med/large cal

[cobalt rapids]

No its just CL

[plain saffron]

i think i submitted the feedback long time ago

[quartz wyvern]

New season?

[exotic wren]

runes

[whole crypt]

and no need to ping me I'm around, I just only have 2-minute windows to say anything whenever I'm not out of auto tickets on mirishita

[whole crypt]

PR7 next week yes

[plain saffron]

all this time i gaslighted myself

[brisk shard]

is anyone know will the next event has UR banner?

[quartz wyvern]

is French?

[steady beacon]

5th ship is French ye

[plain saffron]

we got 5th altready?

[steady beacon]

Ye, CN announced about 10mins ago
Bayard, French CL

[plain saffron]

so uhh 1 per faction?

[gloomy mesa]

Will roon be automatically MLB when reaching lvl 70?

[brisk shard]

no

[crimson glacier]

roon is mlb when she is dev 30

[steady beacon]

So far, assuming no surprises, Italian, Russian, French, Japanese, American

[plain saffron]

for dev ships dev lvl 10/20/30 is their LB1/2/3

[gloomy mesa]

🥲 okay, thought I'd get some easy tech points. Nvm

2 more weeks to wait I guess

[steady beacon]

We don't even know what the next event will be, so definitely can't make any promises

[brisk shard]

thanks

[whole crypt]

looks like a slim Brest

[keen sable]

bayard is so old...

[plain saffron]

so uhh no CB?

[jaunty vault]

no IB ship?

[whole crypt]

no CB no Germans

[plain saffron]

something2 germans is even numbered season

[jaunty vault]

no way

[steady beacon]

No CB so far
No IB so far
I know we shouldn't expect a sixth but... well...
I better not rule it out either...

Weird things happen when it comes to the Germans

[plain saffron]

we heard you finished a season in 4 months now, enjoy your 8 new pr ships

[whole crypt]

just stop being fixated about factions and all your worries will go away

[keen sable]

IB % 7

[steady beacon]

[whole crypt]

now to wait for JP to tell me who the VA is I guess

[strange sphinx]

where's the announcement P

[whole crypt]

it's on weibo

[exotic wren]

then an IB CB appears

[stark quiver]

cn

not updated here yet

[strange sphinx]

weibo hah

[whole crypt]

has CN announced napoli?

[steady beacon]

I swear only EN has announced Napoli

[plain saffron]

they want EN to have something early for once

[whole crypt]

looks like it

[plain saffron]

ngl when all 5 server catchup, make each server announce 1 ship for 1st post sounds kinda cool

[whole crypt]

I guess because EN was making more noise about the pastas

[steady beacon]

Fair enough

[stark quiver]

what is the french faction called in AL

[plain saffron]

iris libre and vichya dominion

and iris orthodoxy for the combined one

[strange sphinx]

aka Templar knights in the past

[plain saffron]

i prefer good and bad french

[whole crypt]

croissant libre and baguette dominion

[jaunty vault]

vichya good, iris bad

[strange sphinx]

Why Iris the Liberty goes hard

[whole crypt]

Bayard is Iris right?

[plain saffron]

meanwhile JP with just iris

[jaunty vault]

yes

[eternal moth]

I'm confused why they'd use Halford for Eagle Union. It looks like she was actually completed

[jaunty vault]

iris the liberty

[crimson glacier]

this is some peak gph i see

[plain saffron]

something2 wows version is hybrid that doesn't exist

[whole crypt]

we have Vichya too

[jaunty vault]

welcome torva

[plain saffron]

i mean the naming

[jaunty vault]

make gph peaker

[plain saffron]

Iris, vichya and iris

[keen sable]

wows made her plane work, call her a ddvv

[eternal moth]

What, a destroyer with planes? Because that's what she started life as

[mellow remnant]

Uhhhh

[stark quiver]

That’s odd

[plain saffron]

yes exactly, just iris

[jaunty vault]

complete story first

[plain saffron]

EN is Iris libre and CN apparently iris the liberty

[keen sable]

i see red

[mellow remnant]

Where do that?

[plain saffron]

check this page

[jaunty vault]

enter a port, click information
or do what torva says

[mellow remnant]

Okay

[strange sphinx]

En Sakura Empire And CN is Sakura Islands

[whole crypt]

if you mean official naming there's a full name that's not just Iris but it's usually truncated

[plain saffron]

i see

[grizzled sun]

I joined a guild…but don’t seem to be getting any of the tech benefits from it, something I need to do?

[plain saffron]

you need to buy from guild

[uneven cave]

Northern Union vs NP and Eastern Radiance vs DE

[grizzled sun]

Ooooh ok didn’t know that

[plain saffron]

Guild research to increase lvl
each player buy, capped at guild lvl

for example, if guild is lvl10
you start from 0. can buy up to 10

but if public guild on that server is lvl 15
after lvl10 you can buy from public guild but with higher price

and the tech is permanent even after you leave the guild

[plain saffron]

what did they call full name for combined french

[lyric briar]

skks what fleet y'all use for a comfy Gneisenau META clear

[plain saffron]

it's better to see who you have instead unless you have everyone

[strange sphinx]

Is there a guild I can then leave just for buff or is it advisable to not leave the Guild?

[plain saffron]

there's still cooldown and need to contribute for a while to even access any of the benefits

[bright tusk]

What's good from helena meta?

[strange sphinx]

well I know that

[inner delta]

decent dps vs light

[kind slate]

Does laffeyII want mog gun more than Harbin and tai yuan?

[whole crypt]

ask me again next week I'll need to do some digging, but off the top of my head not very far from Iris Orthodoxy

[whole crypt]

you want to stay in a guild to do ops anyway, and a guild with good tech should be doing ops regularly

there's very little practical reason to leave an active guild once you've joined it

[kind slate]

Who wants it the most?

[whole crypt]

I'd lean towards Harbin

[crimson glacier]

id assume that laffey 2s best gun is the rainbow from gear lab but idk

[whole crypt]

Laffey II should also benefit from mog gun but if you're also using mog, DDGs or Harbin then their gun slots get better mileage

[shell willow]

are there some fleet nodes that give 0 xp in opsi or how does this work?

within the same zone sometimes i get 0 xp, sometimes i get some

[plain saffron]

no AP used = 0 xp, usually story map
for hidden zones the infinitely spawn one also 0xp

[shell willow]

ah so ig it was the infinite spawn

because i spent ap when entering the zone

[inland shoal]

On non hiddens (explorables only?) there's also sometimes this beacon that calls reinforcements, I don't remember if those were also blue

[whole crypt]

generally speaking anything that was generated alongside map generation gives XP and anything spawned after does not

[normal crane]

Maintenance?

[whole crypt]

this does not includ story maps and file zones

[shell willow]

[icy mountain]

Which skill should i max first for fdg?

[wild elbow]

Yo

[whole crypt]

mission mobs for this purpose are also generated after mapgen
all "reinforcement" spawns in hidden zones as well

the only type of nodes spawned after mapgen that give XP as far as I can tell are those summoned by beacon after you kill a promoted pawn, or the humanoid siren "ambush" also when you kill a promoted pawn

and uhhh scanning device summoned mobs too I think, should be same mob type as beacons

[inland shoal]

What about the siren in stronghold that retakes the thing?

[whole crypt]

obstructor/intruder is blue

regardless of whether you wait until it "takes" the node

[inland shoal]

That's crazy

[whole crypt]

when you wrap your head around these "rules" it's immediately obvious which nodes give XP or not, if you don't tell by colour

[inland shoal]

Doesn't rly matter imo
In general if all the skillsare good it would be technically optimal to raise them all concurrently

[wispy herald]

How’s Yorktown?

[inland shoal]

I or II?

[wispy herald]

First

[remote yarrow]

Like the purple ship? Bad

[inland shoal]

Dead

[wispy herald]

Oof

Btw I keep on getting blue retrofit prints instead of purple

Is it all based on rng

[hushed dawn]

Hmmm, how many fights would I need to do to yield useful data when comparing the performance of two fleets?

[wispy herald]

Goddamn I have 24 blue prints and zero purple

[remote yarrow]

Only ones that are locked behind difficulty/stage are Gold ones that you can only get from Hard mode campaign 3 and over

[wispy herald]

I have more gold than purple bruh

[remote yarrow]

You can craft up from blue to purple

[wispy herald]

Wait what

[remote yarrow]

Yeah

[wispy herald]

Bruh

[remote yarrow]

Depot > Items > Choose the BP > Compose

[wispy herald]

I can finally retrofit unicorn

[steady beacon]

In like uh
What context?
(Serious) boss fight?

[remote yarrow]

[wispy herald]

Thanks

[hushed dawn]

Michita.

Thinking of 15 fights each.

[wet prairie]

do we know who the other DR is?

[hushed dawn]

Nakhimov and Napoli.

[forest palm]

you'll see art of her pinned on JP twitter

[steady beacon]

As of right now, I've prob done like close to 100 for one specific fleet (although most were resetting using my own runs, since 5/day is definitely too few for my needs)
15-20 each for the other fleets I've looked into
Probably don't need to go that far for a comparison of just two fleets, though
10-15 each should be enough
Although you may want to keep track of Helena procs and ship death times to account for randomness stemming from those factors

[remote yarrow]

DR
Nakhimov - Northern Parliament CV
Napoli - Sardegna Empire CA
PR
Bayard - Iris Libre CL
Daisen - Sakura Empire BB
Halford - Eagle Union DD

[hushed dawn]

Alright. I'll gun for 20 for now.

Trying to record some proper data for that debacle I had between synced vs. de-synced Kear a few days ago.

[steady beacon]

Cool, good luck

[inland shoal]

Do we know Bayard is PR? I only saw an announcement of her that looked kinda generic without a mention of PR or Wows collab banner on it

[hushed dawn]

She's PR.

[remote yarrow]

It was announced in CN

[shell willow]

https://fixvx.com/azurlane_staff/status/1809497511465463980

[hushed dawn]

Nakhi and Napoli are the DRs.

[inland shoal]

[forest palm]

so that's all, unless they want to throw a 6th at us

[inland shoal]

First season without kms innit?

[steady beacon]

Seemingly so

[forest palm]

believe so

[remote yarrow]

Unless they throw in a 6th one and it's an IB

[steady beacon]

Also the pattern from PR3 onwards that the faction of CN anni gets a PR that season is preserved

[inland shoal]

Not my PR anymore

[steady beacon]

I like patterns

[inner delta]

[forest palm]

anyway, sit till the 11th for now

[abstract aspen]

Any chance they will add more ships in the ur exchange. Is it worth to claim a dupe. Since I don’t have ur bullins

[dusk maple]

claim the dupe, the next UR addition should still be far away.

[shell willow]

cant get more than 400 points right?

[tame jungle]

Correct

[split umbra]

Is there new event next week? How much oil should i save roughly for any new events?

[tame jungle]

Probably no new event but release of new PR ships

[unreal bloom]

Is it worth crafting a the ijn double 410 type 3 to use musashi vs light armor bosses?

[split umbra]

Oh okay

[steady beacon]

If you mean the Twin 410 Kai, it's a good option for Musashi for mob use
I would avoid Musashi vs light bosses if you have almost any of the other rainbow BB options though
And even if she is used vs light, she typically doesn't carry the Twin 410, since she usually prefers Mk 6/Mk 7 to sync with the others

In before Daisen's gun changes the calculus on this matter, actually...
Although twin-barreled HE is still a somewhat difficult place to be, at present...

[inner delta]

who knows

[unreal bloom]

I have nj and alsace but they are not mlb yet. So my only usable rianbow bbs are bis2, fdg, musashi and uvh, but i was thinking of replacing uvh so that is why i asked

[steady beacon]

In light of Bismarck's buff, I probably would keep UvH in an anti-light scenario
If it's for Arbiter, Temperance is just so easy that you can use anyone and get away with it, so it doesn't matter too much
But if it's a non-pushover light boss like Wichita META, I would definitely stick to Bis/FDG/UvH over slotting in Musashi
If it's medium or heavy then ye I would put her in, though

[unreal bloom]

It is for wichita.

[blissful hamlet]

No iron blood ship

[whole crypt]

as long as you're not referring to beehive gun you're not really going to screw yourself over

[whole crypt]

I assume you mean this https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(Type_3_Shell) which is hot garbage

[steady beacon]

Oh shit, I misread Type 3 as Third-Year Type...

Just call it Sanshikidan damn it
But yes, don't build the GOLD Twin 410...

[late flame]

but its fun

[mellow remnant]

I wanna beat hard Arbiter but I honestly think I'd be kinda cooked-

[steady beacon]

True

[steady beacon]

No, you literally have way better than I did the first time I cleared
Start a thread and we'll give you a hand

[mellow remnant]

Oh okay

[shell willow]

i was gonna say he has way better stuff than me and even i managed to beat it (with help from here)

[late flame]

tbh once you have lv125 ships unless they are shitters its kinda hard to lose vs normal arbiter

[strange sphinx]

Hard on another hand

[late flame]

harbiter i agree, but depends on which month

[steady beacon]

Arbiter is a bit of a mental hurdle imo
"Hard" seems scary until you actually try
But most are actually not that bad

[mellow remnant]

It took me 3 waves of my 4 fleets to beat normal Arbiter 💀

[strange sphinx]

so who will the Arbiter next month

[sharp socket]

can i skimp on coining saint louis to d30/fs5 if i have avp and fdg to do already

[steady beacon]

August Strength uh
FP Overload + 20s/15hit shield + Vanguard Hunter

[strange sphinx]

Yeah I did the harbiter 20% remaining

[steady beacon]

This month you just need to make sure you have appropriate measures to get around the 20s shield
Other than that, it's yawn-worthy like all Temperance variants

[tame jungle]

I’d say coin both fdg and avp instead of sanrui if you can afford it with the coin income you have

[frank pulsar]

sanrui kinda obsolete anyways, youre not losing out on anything
idr if you need to dev30 a ship for your pr1 mission but if you dont need to just move on

[tame jungle]

No dev30 just acquire iirc

[late flame]

sanrui to unlock breast
(but moot if you have acquired many french ships recently)

[strange sphinx]

give 20K coin for fdg

[inner delta]

just do campaign

[sharp socket]

i was talking about how im out of oil all the time yesterday

balancing tech, gear upgrades and coining is troublesome

[modern aurora]

Do I do Musashi/Hakuryuu/Shinano or Nagato/Hakuryuu/Shinano

[slender heart]

If the goal is buffing the CV, go nagato

[drifting pecan]

um, any idea why i can't make thread? need tips n help for w15 fleetbuilding

[slender heart]

do /w15 in #bot-spam

[shell willow]

should i make one for you? idk why it doesnt work for u

[lusty jay]

Need Help Building Fleet for Campaign 10-3

[drifting pecan]

thanks, but i think i'll try to following guide first, i'll back if something goes wrong or need an help

[shell willow]

ok, good luck

[eager mulch]

Musashi is better than nagato buff

[uneven cave]

Should meta showdown BBs use white shell and staag, or could they get away with black shell and twin 134

[steady beacon]

Depends on which Showdown

[icy mountain]

can i do vanguard, fdg, alsace in my bb bossing fleet in opsi?

i kinda wanna replace nelson in my bb bossing fleet

[steady beacon]

Ye, that sounds fine

[icy mountain]

okay ty

[uneven cave]

Which ones specifically need more hit stat

I assume Helena at least, Wichita as well?

[frank pulsar]

basically helmet and every meta from qem onwards

[steady beacon]

Nah, Helena's evasion rate is pretty low
Can probably get away with Twin 134, even +9 Bowgun
Especially if you use Aurora
Iirc the first META who got a sudden boost to her evasion rate was QE
So all METAs previous have quite low evasion rates, and all METAs including and after have "normal" evasion rates

[frank pulsar]

no, every meta after qem has same 75 eva as qem

[jaunty vault]

"normal"

[frank pulsar]

they even have more lck

[jaunty vault]

[steady beacon]

Note also that the choice of white shell vs black shell is also partly contingent on whether ship in question has something that boosts their critical rate
E.g. Bismarck, Soyuz, and probably Alsace would typically prefer white shell regardless

[steady beacon]

So, what did I say that was incorrect?

[uneven cave]

Ok so staag white shell then ig

[frank pulsar]

the last part where you said before and after has normal eva

[steady beacon]

... I said including and after, though?

Which meant "including [QE] and after [QE]"

[jaunty vault]

i feel like this conversation doesn't need to continue

[frank pulsar]

i think i en

[jaunty vault]

i think pilica en but anyways

there's nothing to be gained from continuing this

[steady beacon]

Seriously, what did I EN on lol

[worldly pewter]

en reading

[jaunty vault]

[steady beacon]

Cooper really says I made a mistake, doesn't elaborate, and leaves

[jaunty vault]

ok i was wrong

[frank pulsar]

[jaunty vault]

[steady beacon]

Get back here and explain yourself

[whole crypt]

[atomic abyss]

[steady beacon]

No joke, though, is there a mistake?
I don't want to be spreading misinformation

[balmy matrix]

Does this torp better than quad ones or nah?

[silent latch]

is Hms london worth retro fitting

[frank pulsar]

no, shropshire retro is cheaper and is identical to london retro in performance

[whole crypt]

and the fact is neither of them are really worth bothering

[silent latch]

oke

[jaunty vault]

not really, i think
i just did not bother to read your entire message back then

[gloomy mesa]

Little friedrich any good? trying to figure out who to build for FdG exp grind.

That's all I have

[whole crypt]

any of them besides smol is fine, smol doesn't give any tech

[steady beacon]

She's OK
No tech is a bit unfortunate

Iirc Thuringen and Bis are FP so I'd do those two

[whole crypt]

since they're starting low anyway just throw in some XP packs, LB them then drag them along

[steady beacon]

Seyd is not bad although her tech, like almost all BCs, is BC only EVA and that's

[gloomy mesa]

thanks, guess for now i'll do one at a time until they hit lvl 70

[sweet epoch]

for w15 support fleet do their skills proc

[gloomy mesa]

Is August von Parseval any good? Asking myself why it mandatory to start on FdG if my current mains are perfectly fine and i technically don't have the ships for exp grind.

f me August is also a main

[cobalt rapids]

Fdg is an upgrade over all gold bbs, if u think u dont want her thats fine
Avp is 2nd(3rd) best freezer ingame and the other are limited

[steady beacon]

... Am I forgetting someone who could potentially be better than AvP, so as to take 2nd place?

[viscid swift]

Implacable...

[steady beacon]

So as to take 2nd place...
Implacable is 1st, that I got

[inland shoal]

Maybe if you count BZ as freeze?

[steady beacon]

Ahhhhh
OK, that makes more sense

[keen sable]

Thor+Seyd isn't a bad combo iirc

[cobalt rapids]

Yea i was talking about bz but in () due to caveats

[inland shoal]

True, Seyd suits me very well

[jaunty vault]

nuh uh

[dense epoch]

what to get from here?

[smoky palm]

sooo ummm.. what exactly do classified mission loggers hidden zone data loggers do? in dummy terms

[soft raft]

A series of missions with a free selector UR gear lab Print at the end

[cobalt rapids]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#medal

[craggy lance]

And lore

[soft raft]

Eneterprise > Hood > Bullins > Spec Core > Whatever else you need (tho the retrofit prints are overpriced)

[smoky palm]

and what about the hidden zone logger?

are either work grabbing?

[soft raft]

the regular zone logger is worth it if you dont have time to progress the zones the normal way

Hidden zone logger essentially lifts the limited vision in Hidden zones afaik

[smoky palm]

ahhh, im not in a huge rush that I cant deal with limited vision :d

but the classified are worth getting the for UR prints then?

[soft raft]

Yes

[keen sable]

Usually the reason is you can't create a thread and post pictures at the same time. create first. then add images.

[eager mulch]

why are W14 flares bad again?

[strange sphinx]

So What World again does hedgehog usable?

[soft raft]

14-3, 14-4, 15-3, and 15-4 are the maps with subs outside of events

[normal crane]

Should I mlb Shinano?

[strange sphinx]

So I can put the hedgehog in my mob fleet?

[soft raft]

Yes
And then you can either MLB Mogador or save your bullins for the next new UR

[modest moat]

Hey, guys. I’ve got a list of ships I’m thinking of scrapping for dock space. Are any of these worth keeping?

Littorio
Vittorio Veneto
Suruga
Owari
Bismarck (normal)
Tirpitz
Ryuuhou
Maya
Suzutsuki
Sakawa

[soft raft]

That's where you should be using it anyways since they're gonna be the ones running into them alot

And there are no subs on boss fight anyways

[viscid swift]

among other things they scuff the targetting of your BBs

[viscid swift]

have you scrapped all dupes and more easily obtainable ships first

not to mention considered investing in more dock space

[keen sable]

I wonder what your thinking is...

[strange sphinx]

bro Deleting SR

[soft raft]

Why would you consider scrapping Owari...
Not to mention that SRs give relatively large chunks of tech points and some of them have good fleet tech

[modest moat]

I’ve got plenty of dock space, I’m just thinking of getting rid of ships that aren’t useful and/or I don’t care for

[strange sphinx]

[viscid swift]

why, tech is still tech and there is a lot of good tech there not to mention a number of them are event limited/difficult to reobtain

[modest moat]

All the mentioned ships I’ve gotten all the fleet tech for.

Is owari better than rainbows? That’s all I use for anything serious anyways

[strange sphinx]

I don't even have the guts to scrap SR ships

[soft raft]

she isnt better but she's pretty close to the lower floor of UR BBs

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't scrap ships just for the sake of scrapping ships

[soft raft]

^
The only SR ships I've scrapped were the Muse ones

[viscid swift]

especially when so much has been invested already into getting them to 120

[modest moat]

Why not? If you don’t use them for anything, what’s the point in having them?

[keen sable]

It's your game. Do what you want.

[modest moat]

I know, but I’m open to be convinced otherwise

[viscid swift]

you never know what may happen in they may get an augment and become really busted or content might suddenly favor them

unlikely yes but you're not losing much by keeping them around and there's a lot of potential to loose even if it is just potential

[modest moat]

Yeah the only reason I’m holding onto some of them is because they might get an aug mod that really buffs them Saratoga style

[zinc turret]

so i can get 7 ur geaer lab print if i do all of it ?

[modest moat]

The thing is, ships like tirpitz and maya have already gotten their aug mods, and they haven’t broken into the meta at all. Is it worth keeping them? Do they have potential?

[keen sable]

You've convinced me they're all useless with your argument so...again we're back to it's your game.

[viscid swift]

let me ask you this, why insist on scrapping them if you don't have issues with dock space

[silk helm]

just let him scrap 😂 doesn't seem like he's gunna listen anyways

[modest moat]

Fair question. I just feel like my dock is a bit cluttered with ships I don’t use or care for at all. I’m open to keeping them, I just need a reason

[keen sable]

i wish i could delete roon. leipzig isn't enough security

[modest moat]

If I wasn’t gonna listen, I wouldn’t have come here lmao

I’ve been convinced to keep owari, for one

Just ships like tirpitz and maya I feel aren’t very useful, I guess

[viscid swift]

I can get the dock being cluttered but you have your own custom filter in the form of favorites if you feel it get's to be too much of an issue

[silent latch]

what ships to buy in guild shop, already bought helena and unicorn

[viscid swift]

and like I said, you never know what content they'll release in future or what they'll do, it's slim and bordering on copium but I would rather just hold onto on he very off chance something does happen rather than scrap them and having to reinvest in them if does happen

[keen sable]

today/recently? Portland and Pennsylvania(uh oh)

[silent latch]

bought them too already

[keen sable]

buy dupes if you need them?

[whole crypt]

you're free to scrap whatever ships you don't feel like keeping if you're not a collector, that's all I'll say

it's your game, you do you

[modest moat]

I would, just currently I use the favorites tag to more easily sort by ships I’m currently grinding to 120 for tech. I wish this game had a more robust tag system like Pokémon go, but alas

[grizzled sundial]

Haven't unlocked the modernization retrofit , but i assume it require either copy of the ship or Bulin ?

[modest moat]

It’s true that cognitive chips are very expensive, that’s one of the reasons I’m holding off

[soft raft]

Most of the time yes

[keen sable]

sometimes it does? eg hyuuga. idk is there a back history to this question?

[grizzled sundial]

Reaching the modernization for Nimi , Portland and Ranger soon , that empty slot right next to retrofit bp looks suspicious...

[modest moat]

Not trying to be rude, but “it’s your game, do what you want,” doesn’t really need to be said, imo. Like, you and I already know that. I’m making a decision and I came here for advice to hear what other people think, you know? I’m looking for outside opinions and “do whatever you want” isn’t really valuable input to me

[viscid swift]

it does require either a bullin or dupe

[soft raft]

Ranger? Why her?
Have you done Unicorn yet?

[grizzled sundial]

Her skill scream of gacha , 15% chance of immediately send out the next airstrike.

[modest moat]

In any case, I’ve been convinced to reconsider and keep those ships for now.

Thanks all for your thoughts

[whole crypt]

in that case you are the first person I've heard who wants to declutter his dock not out of a lack of space
this is a waifu collector game, either you get more space to keep everything or you scrap anything you don't feel like keeping, there's really not a lot of middle ground

[frank pulsar]

personally i just scrap everything that has no value or is easily obtainable and keep everything else

[modest moat]

What can I say, I’m a special snowflake.

Really, it’s that I don’t care for the crimson axis ships at all. I keep pretty much all the Azur lane ships

[grizzled sundial]

You make mommies sad 😦

[silk sphinx]

So here’s one thing at least. If you’ll play for a long time, then you’ll have to do fleet tech

[keen sable]

so scrap them? I think your reasons are well thought out and legitimate.

[silk sphinx]

And fleet tech… is just doing a lot of shitty ships for the stat boosts once they hit lv120

[modest moat]

Yes, I am aware. The only ships I was thinking of scrapping, I’ve gotten the tech points for

[silk sphinx]

Hm. Well quite frankly retrofits are rare enough that if they come out you can probably just reacquire the ship

If you don’t like and won’t use a ship, feel free to scrap it

[whole crypt]

if you're looking at ships that don't really have much headroom for any sort of meta or niche and you just don't give a shit about said ship(s) then it's really okay to let them go

you sound like you know what you're signing yourself up for anyway

[modest moat]

Well, the reason I have a list and asked, is because I can’t really just scrap every ship I don’t care for, right? Like, I’m not gonna go scrapping Bismarck 2 even if I wish I could. I brought a list here because I wanted thoughts on if they were okay to get rid of.

Owari, for example, I don’t really care for. But if she has enough potential to break into the meta, I would want to keep her.

[modest moat]

Some ships, I don’t know if they have value.

[whole crypt]

Owari is among the top SR BBs but I wouldn't say she has potential to break into a meta that's all rainbow BBs

[modest moat]

Hmmmm

Well now I’m just thinking of going back and scrapping everything again xD

I keep going back and forth on this, if you couldn’t tell

[whole crypt]

I mean even Izumo who just got a huge boost with augment is still just in that "good SR BBs" range and nowhere close to rainbows, not that you can scrap Izumo of course

[modest moat]

Side note— still don’t know why research ships aren’t deemed as “free” in terms of dock space like meta ships are

[viscid swift]

the devs just decided as such

[silk sphinx]

If you’re going to post a list that’s fine. If it’ll take a lot of space do it in a thread

[fresh tangle]

Kaga BB isn’t worth adding to the stable right? Got her in merit shop atm

[modest moat]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying

[viscid swift]

she's just tech

[silk sphinx]

She’s just fleet tech/collection

[whole crypt]

you can chosoe to not make a research ship
you can't choose to not claim a META ship without skipping out on resources

[keen sable]

everyone is worth adding. even roon

[fresh tangle]

Your feelings on Roon are clear and I’m with you 😂

There was a sub that can pop up in merit someone recommended and I can’t remember now

[sharp socket]

should i change all my CV augs from bow to sceptre

[silk sphinx]

Meh don’t bother

[modest moat]

My hang up is: if I can’t remove it from my dock, then it shouldn’t cost me space

[whole crypt]

if you already made the bow just stick with it

[sharp socket]

alright

[keen sable]

they give out gems and stuff to hold pr ships though. people are welcome to return those gems or waste on emergency repairs if they want nothing to with pr

[silk sphinx]

Well initially everyone took dock space, the meta dock is a very recent update that they didn’t have to add either

[modest moat]

I know, and it was good that they added the meta dock. I just think it should go farther to include research ships

[silk sphinx]

Like, they did us a solid, I don’t rly care to ask for more

[wispy cosmos]

l take

[keen sable]

and you can reasonably argue that the 30 guild dock was meant for meta ships

[noble tulip]

how is that an "L" take

[modest moat]

Lmao

You really need to work on your bait if you think that’s gonna work on me

[silk sphinx]

Please don’t fight here

[wispy cosmos]

"i accidentally farmed millions of exp and spent mats, oh no"

[noble tulip]

AL is truly the only community where asking for qol is met with pushback

[sharp socket]

we only get ring on anni right, no gems

[modest moat]

LOL

[soft raft]

we get gems as well

[sharp socket]

how many gems

awesome theres your research dockspace for you guys arguing

[viscid swift]

it should be 700 this year since it's the CN and JP 7th anni

[silk sphinx]

Actually let me double check I might be confused

[viscid swift]

I also don't remember gems being handed out for PR6 specifically

[modest moat]

Lmao

[sharp socket]

so its years since release x 100 gems

[keen sable]

oh look. can you move game feedback to somewhere else?

[silk sphinx]

Before it was 600 gems for previous anniversaries

[sharp socket]

oh okay

[modest moat]

You kept your old mail? Or is that an old ss

[sharp socket]

i was thinking first anni people mustve complained alot if they only got 100 gems for anni

[keen sable]

this is gph. you can do whatever you want in a different channel

i had like 500 mail. cleaning was a real chore. my oil storage is capped

[silk helm]

i'll take some ty

[sharp socket]

capped oil storage, couldnt be me

[modest moat]

Your oil storage is capped even after the new storage thing?

[kind needle]

I just finished my 2nd tenrai and FS5 haku, should I move to PR5 now?

[hollow gust]

Move to pr5 and get Plymouth

[sharp socket]

when people say get 2 tenrai, is it 2 from research or 1 from research and 1 from protocore

[keen sable]

realistically you should push out a PR5 catchup and then decide what you want to do with 7

[viscid swift]

for the few days we have left until PR7 drops yes

[kind needle]

I haven’t finished plymouth yet, struggling from CDCII

[keen sable]

yes and I still have another 100 mail with oil I can't collect

[kind needle]

But I’m done with Harbin

[sharp socket]

how long can i stick to agir d25 until i need to d30 her

[viscid swift]

preferably asap

[sharp socket]

DR is pain

should i use DR6 prints on agir

its gonna take me a long ass time to get to pr5 or even pr6

[keen sable]

welcome to research

did you finish coining all pr4?

[sweet merlin]

shinano vs enty for boss?

[sharp socket]

im coining avp

currently developing agir

man i do not have enough gear plates to even budget gear my cdc farm ships

[keen sable]

Mmm dismantling progression fleets is doable but ops gear not so much

[sharp socket]

i can do a bunch of hotswapping but ill need to change back for opsi

[steady beacon]

Really quite dependent on the rest of your fleet tbqh

[sweet merlin]

bisko2, alsace, guam, helena and unzen

[keen sable]

giving alsace akane's gun kind of scares me also isn't she like 105? that's not too conducive to easy.

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmmmm...
I'd prob stick with Enty because I'm kinda committed to making 3 IJN req to use Shina

[sharp socket]

so who takes my 2nd wyvern, unicorn has one already

[sweet merlin]

Exp books

[sharp socket]

alr ty

[viscid swift]

why would you use XP packs on a ship you can easily run through W12

[keen sable]

what do you have on indy?

[sharp socket]

flapjack barracuda

[strange sphinx]

does independence includes to the Yorktown II buff?

[keen sable]

actually i think indy since you don't have a eu bomber

[sweet merlin]

Also this is the gear o used for aslace

[sharp socket]

i wont be using indep in my w14 comp

[soft raft]

She's a independence class so no RLD buff for her but she does count as a Union ship for Yk2's self buff

[strange sphinx]

[sharp socket]

with CV ops fleet then yes i can swap it on indep

[sweet merlin]

Does indy and enty count for essex buff?

[strange sphinx]

Oh that's the buff I'm looking for, the double airstrike

[sharp socket]

but ive put that on hold currently cause i dont have excess resources to dump into no gains

i found that i can do 99% of ops with one fleet

[keen sable]

it's theoretically a tossup between 70% enty and volga. put it on whichever fleet needs more help

[sweet merlin]

Is it bad?

[sharp socket]

why is everything not enhanced

[viscid swift]

unenhanced gear is bad

[keen sable]

no but if you had some of that stuff lying around why is biskii so bad

[sharp socket]

you have the mk7 fair enough but man you can enhance those other gears

[sweet merlin]

Gold shortage

[strange sphinx]

[sharp socket]

spend more oil

[rustic osprey]

Which one better for otto

[strange sphinx]

White

[rustic osprey]

Oh ty

[keen sable]

you should stop enhancing it btw...

[strange sphinx]

Unless you have good quadruple Mag torp

[rustic osprey]

Yes thats a old piece from when i was a newbie

[keen sable]

there's an unenhanced imag in the background

[rustic osprey]

Although iam still a newbie, but yea a pretty while ago

[strange sphinx]

what ship did you give the new Quad mag torp

[rustic osprey]

None yet

[strange sphinx]

or who

[sweet merlin]

Are the rainbow oxy trops worth it?

[rustic osprey]

None of my vanguard needs it ig Currently

[sharp socket]

low priority if you’re referring to core shop

[rustic osprey]

Iam using otto, mogador and helena

[keen sable]

this is probably best torpedo in the game

[sharp socket]

can consider after getting 3 pairs of shells, and maybe subs gear

[rustic osprey]

Wait really? O.O

Gotta get em on otto

[soft raft]

On Auto yee

[strange sphinx]

I remembered that otto is a DD

[rustic osprey]

Yes

[sweet merlin]

Just make sure its not another ahip that you are actively using if you wanna swap it out

[rustic osprey]

I dont have any ship for swapping yet

I have a lvl 114 roon muse but shes poorly built. I mean i dont have any gud main gun for her

[jaunty vault]

wait do you have

[rustic osprey]

Lemme ss

[sharp socket]

whats a poverty CA gun for roon/eugen for cdc farm

[jaunty vault]

depends on how poor you are

but you can always use the samheart564 formerly nerezzashimaya's picture guide for equips

[sharp socket]

i am this poor

[strange sphinx]

[sharp socket]

half of these are CL guns anyway

[inner delta]

those twin 203 is fine for poverty

[sharp socket]

time to swap then

[rustic osprey]

These are what i got rn

[sharp socket]

my CAs never do damage so this will be weird to farm cdc with

[rustic osprey]

My friends said yhey are all worst of the guns

[strange sphinx]

Can you make a thread

[sharp socket]

especially with eugen sitting at T5 on tierlist

[rustic osprey]

Thread of what? I didn't get it

[whole crypt]

gold twin203skcs are fine, they're actually on the higher end for poverty, I'm not sure what guns was your friend comparing with

[keen sable]

they eugen guns are basically as good as it gets until rainbow.

they just don't actually help eugen. no gun does

[rustic osprey]

I see. So iam using them ig

[sharp socket]

what CA gun should i get from gearlab

[keen sable]

portland isn't exactly good at damage either. closer to eugen than roon.

[rustic osprey]

My roon

[strange sphinx]

She gonna eat you

[whole crypt]

you'll need to enhance the gun and toolkit, but otherwise looks neat enough

[keen sable]

the aa is a little sus but ok for now?

[whole crypt]

could use a better AA gun but not a serious issue before 13

[rustic osprey]

I got better aa ig lemme see

[keen sable]

ngl i used it way back on laffey but i'm still alive

[icy mountain]

should i research agir after i am done with avp or agir comes first?

[whole crypt]

bottom line it's not among the worst AA guns you could be using anyway

[keen sable]

it doesn't really matter. i prefer avp first so less ship swapping. otoh you may be tired of using bad ib mains.

[keen sable]

all gold except the pompoms are usable or even great

[icy mountain]

guess ill do avp then so my enterprise can finally hit her stuff in opsi

[rustic osprey]

Pom pom is bad?

I equipped the first one

Ty for ur help guys

[sharp socket]

are any of the CA gun lines in gearlab any good

another question i have alsace at 20.74 time to fire and soyuz at 20.82 time to fire, after alsace preload why does soyuz fire first then alsace

does her preload affect her reload time

if i give alsace hsfcr she will miss some helena proc

[whole crypt]

pompoms have a range issue, one major problem with AA is coverage, so even though the gun actually does decent damage if planes are consistently flying outside your circle it doesn't do squat

[hollow gust]

Are sure you timed it correctly, also considering Soyuz is naturally faster it does raise suspicions

Also 20 seconds is pretty slow for bb now that I think about it

[sharp socket]

its 20.41 but soyuz does fire first still

[keen sable]

rainbow or bust

[viscid swift]

are you accounting for Soyuz's reload buff

[hollow gust]

Use the rld calc

[sharp socket]

what rld buff

[keen sable]

that reload buff

[viscid swift]

read her skills again

[hollow gust]

Read her skills , also the +9 bowgun copium

[sharp socket]

oh i see

[whole crypt]

I remember using it myself but I don't remember what I used the +9 bowgun copium for... was it Jintsuu META?

[sharp socket]

uhh i cant get past this then

oh well i can only optimise so much

[keen sable]

you haven't even tried lol. they all have the same gear.

[lament bay]

is this enough to go against lv6 abyssal?

[keen sable]

you can likely easily block soyuz with alsace by giving alsace a hsfcr

[keen sable]

it's not max but can you really blame that for a failure?

[whole crypt]

it's almost max for c6 abyssal isn't it, if you can't kill the boss at this point it's a ship/gear issue

[lament bay]

i forgot about tunings on day 2 of month, and entered while i had like 130 and almost lost so idk if its enough

[keen sable]

176

[whole crypt]

then that should already be in range at least to be getting a bonus and not penalty

if you're not sure you can pass your fleets and gear through here, because you can still struggle if your fleet setup isn't great

[keen sable]

there's no rush either

it's just going to give a torp design at best anyway

[whole crypt]

ord reps though

@steady beacon I was just thinking, wouldn't support barrage cause you to take more damage earlier?

[steady beacon]

Lul
Indeed

[whole crypt]

it could screw comps that have borderline survival at 3rd strike

[elfin hollow]

https://i.imgur.com/YzJVocz.png does this stock ever refill?

[viscid swift]

wait how so?

[whole crypt]

Wichita's damage increase 5% every 5% damage taken

[viscid swift]

oh yeah, that's certainly an interesting double edge

[whole crypt]

because barrage comes early you're taking an extra 5-10% almost throughout the fight

[viscid swift]

how early again?

[whole crypt]

usually around 12-15s ish? should be earlier than Helena even with SG

[soft raft]

[rare shoal]

can you use PR ships for the exp requirements? thinking of raising Chkalov to 125 while I grind nekomov

[soft raft]

as long as they're of the same faction yes

[slender heart]

Somehow i have better results with preload (alsace in this case), so the preload probably won't put that high of a pressure that it become the reason the frontline not surviving. Even if the preload alone take out more than 5% of wichiM health. I haven't calculate it tho, just based on my results alone

[hollow gust]

Alsace preload isn't as comparable to barrage , barrage can be up to 200-300k damage at full power , Alsace preload is like what 80k max?

[slender heart]

Let me try with barrage

[dense epoch]

how many sr bulins do i need to fully limit break an base 3 star sr unit?

[jaunty vault]

4

bulins or dupes or mix

also true for max lb of any character that isnt a research ship

[soft raft]

you need 4 Bullins/dupes to MLB any non-research ship in general

[dense epoch]

is it same for ssr?

[jaunty vault]

[undone plover]

Is shiden kai a usable 500 pounder?

[jaunty vault]

any gold 500 pounder is usable

[low juniper]

Were there ever any samvaluations for any of the event ships

[hushed cliff]

does “weapon” count as torpedo and AA gun

[jaunty vault]

if its not in datamine then it didnt happen

[hollow gust]

Bad bad bad meh thats enough

[soft raft]

I dont think so but they're quite whatever outside of tech fodder

[jaunty vault]

it should

[low juniper]

What's wrong with Alvitr

[hollow gust]

Meh

[soft raft]

70% barrage proc rate in a world where BBs need 100% proc rate to have a chance

[kind needle]

how long does a newly released dr to d30 without prints?

[jaunty vault]

depends on the player

[rocky fjord]

4-6 for a season, specific progress rng

[jaunty vault]

anywhere between 2 months and infinity

[plain saffron]

infinity only if you don't play at all

[jaunty vault]

nah

[plain saffron]

actually without prints is few years waiting for coining

[hollow gust]

That's slow asf lmao

[plain saffron]

[rocky fjord]

6 is slow af, i took 4 last time

[hollow gust]

I got everything in three months

[rocky fjord]

didnt you cube to an extent

[hollow gust]

only 600 cube

[kind needle]

are 2 tenrai's enough?

[viscid swift]

for most purposes yes

[hollow gust]

That's enough for basically 95% of meta comps

[rocky fjord]

for initial focusing purposes yea

[plain saffron]

yes i'm sure most players also have 600 cubes just to be fast

[viscid swift]

honestley going for any more Tenrais at this point is a bit of a trap

[subtle grove]

I just got a quick question, is shinano worth?

[viscid swift]

worth what?

[kind needle]

Should I go pr6 to d30 kear (currently d29, 59 prints needed) after finishing pr4 or camp at pr5 for ply bp?? (got my 2nd tenrai and fs5 haku)

[subtle grove]

She valuable? In w13+ and opsy

[viscid swift]

she's good and still used a lot

[subtle grove]

Aight thanks a lot

[viscid swift]

as always it depends, probably dip back to PR6 first though to at least finish up Kearsarge

[kind needle]

aight

d20 ply usable or not? (as a buffer)

[viscid swift]

debatable and depends on your definition of usable

[finite crag]

you seem to love jumping around between pr series

[kind needle]

yep

[finite crag]

lovely

stop doing that and youll finish pr quicker trust

[rocky fjord]

is EX beatable by advice-lvl fleets

[viscid swift]

you just need to beat the first one for the cogs

[rocky fjord]

ok

[viscid swift]

and it's very easy

[hushed cliff]

What’s the quickest way to get a good CL gun for Mainz I’m stuck using the twin 150mm

[jaunty vault]

gearlab, get 155kai

[wintry obsidian]

About time the French got a CL whose MGM isn't just 1. Just hope Bayard will be decent

[jaunty vault]

k

[sweet delta]

I just hope you take this to #al-general

[keen sable]

What can you even do about it right now

[wary timber]

Is Isuzu worth trying to get.I need to level some ships up what aren't ready for w10 just yet so I'm thinking of trying to spam the map to level up and try and get her

[viscid swift]

no

[zinc turret]

what exp did dorm food increase ? the training exp or exp gained from battle / both ?

[wary timber]

Ok then where do u recommend me to go level ships up. My fleet can't handle w10 and farming IB vanguard exp is key for me to getting Agir built asap

[cobalt rapids]

u shouldnt pr grind before w12

[wary timber]

I'm already 95% of the way there either way

[cobalt rapids]

farm any oilcap stage u can do before 11-1 and then farm 11-1 till u can push w12 and then u can pr grind

[eager mulch]

u shouldnt pr grind before w12 still

[sweet delta]

So how did you get the 95%

[wary timber]

Events, opsi, farming for Yuudachi and Isuzu

[cobalt rapids]

[reef flume]

Champy Gun or NJ Gun? Which one should I focus on?

[jaunty vault]

both

[sweet delta]

And your IB vanguard is still under leveled after 2/3 million exp?

[jaunty vault]

champy first ig
cause its cheaper

[cobalt rapids]

if focus on means +13 then champy gun till u have 3 ( or 2 + 1 soyuz )

[wary timber]

They're new IB ships I'm training up

[sweet delta]

What's wrong with old IB ships

[wary timber]

Z43, Z46 and Z47 are getting trained up now

[reef flume]

How many of both do I need in total?

[jaunty vault]

you want 3 of each

[wary timber]

Cuz I only bothered using Z23 and Prinz Heinrich while ignoring Prinz Eugen cuz abysmal damage numbers

[sweet delta]

.

Surely you can use your high level IB vanguard ships while lethal clearing chapter 10

[lament bay]

for IJN cvs, can you only get extra reload on them with tech points only by leveling to 120 some specific ships?

[eternal moth]

Tech points are only from acquisition and 120, yes

[sweet delta]

For all CVs that is the case

[cobalt rapids]

and cats

[icy mountain]

is there any website that considers the skill rld of the ship when syncing?

[cobalt rapids]

https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

[sweet delta]

Only if you input the numbers yourself

[icy mountain]

ty

[icy mountain]

ye thats fine i just needed the website to include the skill rld

[eternal moth]

The calc listed requires you to put in any % increase yourself, but does tell you where to do so

[quartz island]

When BBs gain a rld buff, does it immediately recalculate the charge up rate for their current salvo, or does the buff need to be active before they start reloading?

[cobalt rapids]

u can see when hood procs that the bar starts accelerating while buff is active then slows down when expired

[quartz island]

Interesting, thanks

[torn phoenix]

whats the point of meta ships? are they just extra ships that upgrades weirdly

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think ships are released with a point

[soft raft]

realistically you wont use them much (Especially the Elite ones) but they share the same fleet tech bonuses as their regular counterparts so some of them have good value off of that alone

[torn phoenix]

ah okay, thank you

[quartz island]

I think they're supposed to be extremely low cost ships that newer players can raise, and a few of them are pretty decent; and some are actually really good

[soft raft]

Wouldnt really say that they're newbie freindly to raise

[quartz island]

Ah, actually yeah, forgot you need the uh OpSi things to enhance the stats

[soft raft]

You cant use bullins on them, they use a different material for enhancmenet that you can only really get from OpSi, and leveling up their skills is done via a different system

[plain saffron]

uhm actually the milestone

[patent pivot]

theyre made to confuse people with meta

[plain saffron]

but wouldn't say new player to use anyway

[lament bay]

mhh i see so the difference is i have other factions CVs at 120 that give reload like for USS, but i didnt upgrade any Ijn ones since they are more uncommon to use (so you 120 them just for the tech points)

[quartz island]

I was thinking of the cruise pass meta ships that you get to max for free; their skills seem to level up really fast

[lament bay]

is some reload helpful for ijn CVs?

[cobalt rapids]

tech bonuses are universal irrespective of faction

they are only divided by hull

[plain saffron]

it applies to all MLB(dev30 for research) ships

[cobalt rapids]

cruise pass metas are usually bad and not worth raising over the cookie cutter newbie fleet

[soft raft]

Only use they would have is if they happen to have good fleet tech
Or if her name is Fortune META and you do #pvp

[plain saffron]

some are good enough. ouh you mean purple

[lament bay]

mhh i swear i remember my shinano/haku not having "tech" button to see yellow numbers; and i thought it was bc they had no reload from here. But now its there

[cobalt rapids]

she wasnt mlb

[lament bay]

ooh they only take tech stats if they are mlb?

[stark quiver]

what armor is the boss in 13-3

[cobalt rapids]

medium

[soft raft]

Both of them are medium

[stark quiver]

btw are torpedoes a big threat that id want to run bulge

[cobalt rapids]

no

[stark quiver]

what should bulge be replaced by on guam? i have that and rudder

[cobalt rapids]

2nd eva aux

[stark quiver]

ill run beaver then

[undone plover]

Is soyuz cross better than alsace? In campaign

[keen sable]

guam has a lot of leeway. i highly doubt the second aux matters much. 15-3 is a much more dangerous place

[cobalt rapids]

soyuz better for groups, als better prio target

[undone plover]

So soyuz cross good on mobs (I.e if running soy in boss) right?

[cobalt rapids]

yea il take soyuz to xfleet mobs over alsace most of the time if i had to choose
but alsace for single target but that excludes campaign coz it procs before boss spawns

[sweet delta]

guam's second aux choice matters enough when it's an oxytorp and the fleet is losing

[keen sable]

they never actually said the fleet was losing. just that enty got low and they wanted a better tank than enty.

expecting to kill taihou with 0 health lost is a bit unrealistic

[polar venture]

Is alvitir good?

[cobalt rapids]

average gold

[forest palm]

• German Tech

[eager mulch]

• fp tech

[polar venture]

What's best way to grind gold?

[cobalt rapids]

w12+

[polar venture]

Is w12 much more difficult than w10?

[cobalt rapids]

no

[forest palm]

it's easier imo

[cobalt rapids]

its one of the easiest maps to grind

[forest palm]

you're not getting rammed, or burned to death, they just throw planes at you, and that's easy to counter

[keen sable]

the bosses can be challenging if you're not prepared

[eager mulch]

don’t level 6 bad bbs in 12-4

[strange sphinx]

do we have a DR or UR BC?

[silk sphinx]

No

[forest palm]

wait for Hood II surely

[agile sky]

how do you counter planes? Cuz im lowkey struggling with that rn on 12-2...

[forest palm]

proper AA guns, and good fighters

[candid meteor]

when does 2x gems reset?. en anni or smth?

[forest palm]

yes, for EN it's August 16th

[candid meteor]

oh, so soon :D

[agile sky]

Does yall know when an event typically rerun? Is it like 1 year later? Longer? Earlier?

[forest palm]

about 2 years

well a little over

[agile sky]

crap.

[candid meteor]

which rerun did u want?

[agile sky]

guam's
both for her dupe and for flasher

[candid meteor]

your waiting for a rerun for dupes?

[agile sky]

i mean...i wanna be able to actually use guam...but 2 years im probably better off using bullins.

Also would like the one event that gave you the best missle and the collab event for Kala ideas so i can get her augment

[signal pollen]

Is there a way for me to get a lot of oil without crystals

[candid meteor]

mail

[soft raft]

Free weekly pack gives like 4k

[uncut oar]

8h comms while you're sleeping or 1h/2h oil comms when active

Other than that, Touch Grass™️

[signal pollen]

Damn. I guess I gotta wait until next week for anchorage. Thanks

Also should I use PR 6 blueprints for PR4?

[uncut oar]

No, coining exists

If you can coin it you don't throw bps at it

(and using higher PR selector BPs for a lower PR's ship generally isn't recommended anyways afaik)

[signal pollen]

Agir can’t be coined? But I get your point.

[uncut oar]

Ah, you said PR so I thought you mean priority. Oops

Specifically for Agir I'll let somebody else answer since I'm done with her already

[signal pollen]

Thanks

[uncut oar]

But just personally, I would wait until you see pr7

Before making the decision in any case

Since how many good ships there are in PR7 might determine if you can afford to spend time to go back for Agir and friends

[candid meteor]

considering that the dr ships of pr7 would basiclly be competeting with haku and agir

[soft raft]

I doubt Napoli is gonna compete with Agir
Nhkalov might compete with Haku but at the same time might not

[uncut oar]

Does JP twitter already have the other DR?

[candid meteor]

yes its admiral nahkimov a np cv and napoli and italian ca

[soft raft]

Napoli is a CA

[uncut oar]

nod

Yeah either ways waiting a few days is the best option for them imo

No need to rush when I doubt they have enuf prints to finish her right meow

[dim summit]

is Alvitr mob, boss, or both?

[earnest flare]

probably worth finishing pr4 (I have agir dev20 and not a ton on haku but haven’t done much of the catch up) before going to pr7 yeah?

[hollow gust]

Best used as neither

[hollow gust]

4 then 5 then 6 and then 7

[soft raft]

[earnest flare]

ah ok

Are the PR ships particularly good from 5 and 6 or is it more about the DRs?

[soft raft]

Mainly the DRs and Shimanto

[inland shoal]

I'd just wait and see what PR7 has to offer

[dim summit]

also i probably have enough for Napoli and Nakhimov but how do i check tech point count for minor factions? my b if its something obvious

[wide marsh]

How good is Magador now? It used to be not so great at release.

[soft raft]

there's no real way to do that outside of counting manually

[dim summit]

oof k thx

[soft raft]

Really solid now that she's no longer instantly killing herself

[lament bay]

whats good about shimanto? is there any burn heavy content?

[wide marsh]

Did she worth bullins or i should keep URs for something good?

[stark quiver]

her AA

[wide marsh]

10 and 11 about burn AFAIK

[soft raft]

Wouldnt really say she's a high prio, prob a better call to wait till the next UR event to see if that one's more worth prioritizing over her or not

[soft raft]

but like that's easy enough to beat without needing Shimanto

[wide marsh]

Simple extinguishers do wonders for me

[uncut oar]

You can literally just throw levels at 10 and 11 extinguishers aren't even really relevant for them

[lament bay]

better than cheshire/guam?

[stark quiver]

iirc better than chesh but worse than guam

[lament bay]

damn interesting since she has 1 aa gun

[soft raft]

175% Mount efficency go brrrr

[stark quiver]

shimanto has her main gun as well doesnt she

[soft raft]

yeah her dedicated gun also gives her another AA gun

[agile sky]

can someone help me teambuild? Running low on coin so i wanna get to 12-4 but im dying on 12-3 boss fight rn...

[soft raft]

Post your dock in a thread

[lethal adder]

if my AA damages planes but they dont die, do they deal full damage on impact with the backline or is it reduced?

[soft raft]

Crash damage is based off of the enemy plane's remaining HP

[agile sky]

12-3 clear / 12-4 farm Plz and Thnx!

[lethal adder]

so if the crash damage has a minimum, would it be better to try to hit half of a plane pack to kill some of that half instead of just damaging the whole pack but not killing any?

better worded, does AA do full damage if it can, or does it do more if theres more planes to hit?

[sweet delta]

hit more planes = less damage dealt to each plane
but why bother, just auto

[lethal adder]

so, usually doesnt matter but can if theres a whopping 24 planes lol got it jk read that wrong it matters until 20

[little tree]

Should i start saving my oil for next event?

[keen sable]

anything over 20 is bonus time. more dam for free

[soft raft]

a new event (or a rerun) wont be for a while but PR7 is dropping in a week

[little tree]

i dont think i have to worry about pr7 for a while

[soft raft]

then just grind W12 like usual if you already got what you want out of the event

[little tree]

yee i got the Torpedo launcher thats it

[strong basin]

When I load on any mission on hard mode that I have completed but haven't gotten all 3 stars there are no escort fleets and the boss spawns right away which prevents me from doing some side missions, is there a way I can fix it or is it just stuck like this? (i'm still pretty new to the game so sorry if the anwser is right in front of me lol)

[soft raft]

Turn off Clearing mode

[strong basin]

Oh wow

Thanks alot!

[soft raft]

np

[elfin hollow]

What's the difference for the time fuzed version?

[soft raft]

Backline exclusive "Long range AA"
they're all dogwater unless you really really really want to use North Carolina w/ Unique aug for some reason

[elfin hollow]

Ah alr, Thank you

[acoustic grotto]

should i use the 138.6mm Mle or the 100mm type 98 Kai on Azuma?

[soft raft]

prob the type 98 Kai but there are higher priority ships than CB Secondary slots for both of those guns

[tame jungle]

if you're done outfitting the rest of your ships for that sortie and are not out of 98kais then sure use that

[acoustic grotto]

gotcha, ty

[hallow iron]

What augment for Helena?

[cobalt rapids]

either

sword is slightly more surv, bow is slightly more pers dps

[hallow iron]

Hmm ig I craft sword then

[hallow iron]

Btw what Cv would like the bow?

I currently have 2 sceptor crafted

[sweet delta]

any CV or CVL in chapter 12, 13 or 15

[hallow iron]

Oo ic so bow is good if I'm against heavy plane map?

[cobalt rapids]

heavy plane map and no backline shelling

[hallow iron]

Ok thx

Is that gold gear better than the purple I'm wearing rn?

This is for alsace

[sweet delta]

this is usually all that matters

[hallow iron]

Lol okay thanks

[rough pine]

what does this mean

[cobalt rapids]

go to an augment and press convert and do it once

[rough pine]

ohh so its that thing ok thanks

[hallow iron]

Is this blue gun better than the purple gun?

For sandy

[sweet delta]

you must have a better gun than either of them

[tulip zenith]

Is alvitr good

[soft raft]

Not really outside of being tech fodder

[tulip zenith]

Figured thx

[hallow iron]

I could probably craft that if it's worth it...

[sweet delta]

twin 114 is only worth getting if you're an ancient player who did pr3 research and already have the 25 blueprints

the twin 138.6mm is probably sandy's best gun currently

if you don't have anyone else who wants to use the gun more than sandy does

[hallow iron]

Is that mog gun? Mog is using that if so

[sweet delta]

you can try twin 130mm or gold twin 100mm

[spring bolt]

sandy with aug can use rainbow twin 100 too, only slightly lower dps on paper

[sweet delta]

does paper account for sandy's barrage bug?

[hallow iron]

She's buggy? What kind of bug btw

[spring bolt]

isn't it fixed? im not sure tho

[sweet delta]

#bug-reports message

as of 3 days ago, it has not been fixed

[spring bolt]

im not aware of that, i tought you were talking about ghost gun triggering aug barrage

[sweet delta]

i'd imagine cn has this bug too, because it is a deep thing in code

need CN to report bug before it can get fixed

[hallow iron]

Gold twin is this one?

[spring bolt]

do you want me to talk with someone who has connections to dev?

[sweet delta]

yes but don't gear lab it

[spring bolt]

alright, will do

[hallow iron]

Ahh it's available on tech box I assume, I'm gonna open everything then

[sweet delta]

EN bug report: #known-bugs message
what i think the problem is: #1255208554575695903 message

[sweet delta]

you should always be opening T3 tech boxes until you don't need any more purple tech box gear, and always open T4 tech boxes until you don't need any more gold tech box gear

[hallow iron]

Ouh wait t4 gold box I don't have those

Ig long game again with research

[sweet delta]

can you just post all of your DD guns, DD gun blueprints, and DD gun ships in a thread

[hallow iron]

Is it like suoer wasteful to just craft from gear lab? Is there a recomended thingy to get first

[sweet delta]

/gearlab

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Gear_Lab_Priority.jpeg

[hallow iron]

Thx

[keen sable]

@hallow iron

[spring bolt]

@sweet delta i tested in spee challenge fight but seems CN doesn't have it. is it only triggering with a specific gun or multi target environment?

[sweet delta]

not mog gun

twin 100 kai, blue 76 both have it. and Spee is ok

[spring bolt]

i tried rainbow twin 100 and 3x155, didn't see it. i will try blue 76

[forest palm]

clearly you just rally the CN fan base, and they listen

[sweet delta]

found some random CN video from 6/25. three small stars are missing to the left of the big star

[spice phoenix]

are there any non sr/ur ships that are worth training?
(not SR retro)

[sweet delta]

aurora and depends on your dock