gameplay-help

[jaunty vault]

yes

[sour osprey]

so for tguns just go highest dmg right? on everybody

[steady beacon]

Manual can help narrow certain gaps, but if you just literally don't have the damage then manual can't narrow that gap

[jaunty vault]

... it depends

best you just follow a good gear guide

[steady beacon]

Oh, actually
If specifically July Temperance, then manual can do one useful thing, since I'm guessing you lack the means to get around it on auto
Namely, you can manually hold back airstrikes to get around her shield

[sour osprey]

yeah just realized the tier list had gear recommendations too

thanks for the help

[frank pulsar]

theres other things that matter for a gun, like rate of fire, ammo mods, etc
best to just follow a guide since whether or not the gear is good varies depending on the ship as well

[wary hawk]

Does Helena just use regular gear for Wichita meta?

[steady beacon]

Ye
SG Radar depending on who she's timing with
Everything else as you normally would

[sharp token]

how do i timing a CV to debuff?

[strange sphinx]

well I did lower her health in 20% using all of my fleet

Soo I guess I accept it

[steady beacon]

Depends on which debuff and also which CV

[frank pulsar]

you figure out your debuff windows and adjust your cv's equips to allow your launch timings to match it as closely as possible

[sharp token]

shin/AvP/haku

[steady beacon]

Just timing with each other for AvP's stop, I'm guessing?

[sharp token]

yes

[steady beacon]

... I feel like I should know this off the top of my head, but I don't

[undone plover]

Yeah
Depends what u are fighting
Which armor type?

[worldly pewter]

u combine all the tech boxes into purple then open

[sharp token]

i mean for example shinano and hakuryu has 23 sec to launch an aircraft, should AvP is on 23 sec too or 1 sec earlier?

[elfin hollow]

Will the % damage buff from 11-13 gear in OpSi apply to ships assisting from outside the current fleet?

E.g my NJ has full +13 gear, will her assisting barrage do more damage when a fleet in which she isn't in is fighting?

[steady beacon]

Ideally, you want to try and slot AvP in between the other two
Although this is not always a particularly easy thing to do

[undone plover]

U want AvP to go second between those 2
And pref all within 0.2 sec launch of each other

[undone plover]

The assiting barrage dmg depends on NJ FP and the bonus of the flagship of the fleet fighting
For example if it has siren killer the barrage will do 15% more dmg

[cobalt rapids]

cross fleet dmg is based on the stats of the ship that crossfleets and the buffs of the flagship that is getting crossfleeted
opsi dmg bonus is a buff not counted in this case
but sirenkiller on the flagship will count

[strange sphinx]

does Kearsarge is usable in dev 25?

[dawn hamlet]

Hi Friedrich doesn't have a crossfleet skill right?

[undone plover]

Maybe in a CV fleet if u manage to sync her

[cobalt rapids]

u can check /crossfleet in #bot-spam for all crossfleets available

[worldly pewter]

can u reformulate the question

[steady beacon]

Circumstantially usable, but she can become painful bc she's so slow

[calm rose]

leveling ya, you're missing EFF and 1mgm if under dev 30, if you wanna take her to bossing

[sharp token]

so like if shin is 22.4/ AvP 22.6/ haku 22.8 something like that?

[undone plover]

Btw for this dont rely on the in game timer
Since it doesnt account for AvP 12% rld from skill
U want to give AvP a bf109 or Ju87 to activate that skill

[terse gust]

hey guys, is there a difference between these two?

[frank pulsar]

try these, avp should try to launch inbetween nano and haku
no more than 0.5s between each other
for med swap out the hvarcat for bf109g

[cobalt rapids]

no just the graphics

[terse gust]

thx!

[steady beacon]

Sure, that works
And as Faer said, use the traneptora calculator, not the in-game numbers
https://traneptora.com/azur-lane/cooldown/airstrike/

(It isn't flawless either, but at least it accounts for AvP's RLD boost)

[elfin hollow]

Interesting, thanks a lot!

[undone plover]

Triple tenrai

[cobalt rapids]

i dont think the first comp is syncing

[frank pulsar]

i never had to work with haku nano

[undone plover]

True forgot AvP rld skill

[cobalt rapids]

neither is the 2nd

[frank pulsar]

i completely forgot she had a rld skill
i was wondering why was she a 🐌
imma redo

[undone plover]

Maybe the calc/tool is to blame

[cobalt rapids]

u can multiply avp rld by *0.97 in alft and its good aprox if she has an ib plane

[steady beacon]

My solution is just don't use AvP

My heart goes out to the LE peeps and everyone else who missed Revelations of Dust

[wary hawk]

pls give LE rerun...

[frank pulsar]

i think this works

left is for heavy, right is for light (swap hvar for bf109g on med)

[sharp token]

doesn't work if you don't have the planes

[frank pulsar]

are you missing like a tenrai or

[cobalt rapids]

right doesnt sync

[frank pulsar]

it doesnt? haku just a lil bit fast

[cobalt rapids]

yea shell desynci in 2 strikes

[calm rose]

whats the team comp website again? kinda lost it

[frank pulsar]

if this dont work ill just give up
coughfee look at renhex bio

[wary hawk]

Umi removed it from bio... 😔

[frank pulsar]

ren put it back

https://renhex.github.io/AzurLaneFleet/

[sharp token]

we don't have source of york2 plane right? when will it rerun?

[calm rose]

isnt august too fast? maybe need manjuu. or did i calculate wrongly

[cobalt rapids]

when york 2 reruns

[frank pulsar]

itll rerun together with yorkii, if you dont have it use tenrai/helldiver instead

[frank pulsar]

idk i just calc 0.97 like ren said earlier cuz i cba to use the actual calc

[reef flume]

Prob jan 2025

[cobalt rapids]

second one was fine i goofed

[reef flume]

Alr

[cobalt rapids]

ehe

[meager gyro]

so uhhh, which of the guns do i buy now?

[cobalt rapids]

try /protocore

[sour osprey]

is there pity for the gacha?

[cobalt rapids]

theres sparking for URs at 200 pulls

[sour osprey]

only during event banners right?

[whole crypt]

only pity is for UR (rainbow) banners and permanent URs that have been "retired" to the permanent pool

[cobalt rapids]

also on the permanent URs but dont pull permanent banners except the daily 1 light free

[sour osprey]

wtf is certificate of marriage

[meager gyro]

tells me to buy this which isnt even listed there

[calm rose]

buy the series 3 gear blueprint in protocore shop

Then you choose this

[cobalt rapids]

its the proof of oath ig

for ijn and de its book of vows ig

[meager gyro]

or do i buy the plane? since that gun is always really low on the tier list

[whole crypt]

what tier list

[cobalt rapids]

ectl

[undone plover]

[whole crypt]

ectl doesn't list guns properly because ammo type

[calm rose]

he jumped from BB gun to plane?!

[whole crypt]

just get the gun prints
you can probably get the plane as well, will want both in the end

[cobalt rapids]

not anymore, now they are ordered

[plain saffron]

Ectl requires you to read the desc and not look top to bottom

[cobalt rapids]

except now they are tiered

[plain saffron]

Did they change the layout

[whole crypt]

looks really sus to me

[meager gyro]

i guess ill just buy the plane since i already have 10 prints for that

[whole crypt]

get both

[meager gyro]

who gets this plane btw?

[cobalt rapids]

i would agree but keep in mind the tl and gear recs are mainly for w1-w12/13

[plain saffron]

Anyone

[whole crypt]

depends, BF109G is not a regular use plane

[inner delta]

having twin 406skc is def not for w1-w13 especially that high

[meager gyro]

? wasnt that plane called tenrai something something?

[cobalt rapids]

i dont agree with it either, just thinking of their reasoning

[whole crypt]

that thing costs 3000 proto cores to buy out and isn't higher priority than champagne gun

[ember totem]

[inner delta]

time to go ask rice about this because this is kinda bad

[whole crypt]

yeh the gun list now looks even worse, you can't even tell people to separate AP from HE when looking

[inner delta]

like the list before was fine and now with tiering is just bad

[meager gyro]

i just need 2400

[whole crypt]

you're not in a position to replenish your protocores

so if you spend you're broke

[inland shoal]

Isn't the current thing just if you use the top option you are not guaranteed to do well but you are the least likely to fail catastrophically?

[ember totem]

seems to be the case

[inner delta]

well the top option is fine

[meager gyro]

am i not already in every possible way?

[cobalt rapids]

according to guidelines more generally usefull > less generally usefull and he doesnt perform so bad to other armor types compared to ap on light

[inner delta]

but twin 406 and triple 305 kinda weird

[whole crypt]

3k spec cores can buy you a good few copies of champagne guns instead of just 1 Tenrai

[inner delta]

because like kinda redundant to bother with slight faster rld for "barrage" compared to gun that just do good dmg

[whole crypt]

you don't even have a great carrier to put it on

[inner delta]

[undone plover]

listen to nntktt and renhex and buy the champy gun

[split umbra]

Hi, so after I got FDG, who should i get next? Do I go for Anchorage or just go back to continue PR by season?

[whole crypt]

I don't get why you want to make your own decision against advice when every time you did that in the past didn't turn out well

[sharp token]

should i go for 2nd Tenrai (i have 22 prints) or Plymouth gun instead?

[inner delta]

how much is ply gun at

if lower then just go tenrai

[whole crypt]

I'd say get the tenrai and forget the remaining prints in shop exist, you're not likely to finish another copy before tenrai goes to lab and PR4 falls out of rotation

[unreal bloom]

Do we have any opsi armor guide?

[steady beacon]

Wdym by armour guide

[undone plover]

check the wiki
u can also disable fleet lock and check the enemy armor before the fight

[unreal bloom]

What boss and miniboss has what armor

[steady beacon]

Ohhh

[cobalt rapids]

check /sirenstats

[unreal bloom]

Thx

[blissful hamlet]

how big of improvement is drake fatesim?

[jaunty vault]

more damage 🤯

[blissful hamlet]

yeah but how much more

[unkempt mirage]

i bought 18 457 bps from the protocore to finish my first 457. Can it ever be right to go back to pr2 to get 18 bps go with the 32 left in the store

[blissful hamlet]

you can craft it on gear lab, there's no need to do that anymore

[unkempt mirage]

i know, just seems that the 32 there are wasteful

[jaunty vault]

12% more damage vs light and med
reduced aoa shot requirements
and no position requirements
so basically a solid more than 12% boost in damage vs light and med

[cobalt rapids]

sasuga drake mains

[jaunty vault]

going back to PR2 would be more wasteful
especially with a new season in sight

[blissful hamlet]

anything you're going to waste is your time and the potential loss of not researching other PR season

[sour osprey]

where can i check my commander xp? i might have missed something

[cobalt rapids]

click on ur name on main screen then u can see it on the right side

[unreal bloom]

Does the release of pr7 mean we will get tenrai in gear lab (cope)

[blissful hamlet]

sometime next year (cope)

[sour osprey]

I’m currently level 18, what do I do for xp? i need 20 for the next part of the story

[tame jungle]

Repeat stage

[sour osprey]

ty

[eternal basalt]

Or run event

[fiery raptor]

does the chapayev gun have value as a BB/CB secondary or is primarily a CL main?

[crimson glacier]

fine secondary

[wary timber]

Does the spearfish have any passive intercept at all ?

[steady beacon]

Nope

[wary timber]

And their torp stats are basically the same ?

[steady beacon]

The + to AVI stat is the same
Their torps are different... Wyvern torps are special and higher damage
Spear torps are the same as "normal" parallel torps
But also carry rockets

[wary timber]

I see... thanks

[sour osprey]

are the enemies we defeat in the story just dead? i assume their ships sank right?

[steady beacon]

Prob #al-lore can explain better
But uh... short answer is no in all but like one case

AL's story is a hot mess, so I'll say no more, at least in gph of all places

[sour osprey]

ah right, apologies.

[signal pollen]

If I read the thingy right, did it say scrap every combat data for prototypes ?

[eager mulch]

yes

[signal pollen]

Damn. Wonder how long it takes to farm combat data in research

[eager mulch]

a day

[worldly pewter]

combat date in research ?

[signal pollen]

Really? I run out of oil before I do

[worldly pewter]

k let me understand it somehow
the common thing about research and combat date are the protocores
u can get protocores from research by reducing the prints of ships that reached dev 30

[eager mulch]

Combat data collection can be done in a day or 2 with enough oil in oil capped maps like 12-4+

[worldly pewter]

aka cdc for vanguards can take a while to finish
i ve been doing this ply one for like a week now

might be skill issues

[sharp socket]

you cant do it in a day because of morale

[inland shoal]

If you use 3 fitting vgs and don't let your oil stack you should finish it fairly quickly

[sharp socket]

trust me i tried to

[inland shoal]

Just use more than 1 fleet

[worldly pewter]

it is possible for the first cdc

[sharp socket]

i got 50% of the way on avp 1st cdc gather doing 3x4x6 sortie in one day on 12-1

[heavy jolt]

Hi does this mean all her equipment needs to be eagle union or just one ? Thanks

[eager mulch]

Just one

[heavy jolt]

Thanks

[unreal bloom]

Are the quad consecutive launch torps good on odin?

[soft raft]

quad consecutive?

[steady beacon]

Mk35 I presume

[unreal bloom]

Yes

[hot bobcat]

Alright, for just today only cause it is special day. What ships can i use for a pure eagle union fleet? (This is only for today)

[tame jungle]

don't think you're in a position to be thinking about doing that when it comes to your resources

[undone plover]

where will u use that fleet? without uni it will die after 2-3 fights

[whole crypt]

1-1

[spring bolt]

not that different to a quad mag in general, ok to use if you want to

[silver stirrup]

word of advice focus on 1 ship dont work on multiple of them or else you will run out of resources quickly than you think

[whole crypt]

huh

[eager mulch]

what

[tame jungle]

it's not even that, at this point this guy can just use 1 fleet and focus on raising that entire fleet lol

later on it's also just a waste of time to raise ships 1 at a time

[whole crypt]

you just use 6 ships anyway what does this have to do with focusing on anything

[hot bobcat]

Shiiit.. oh well, it was worth a try

[novel solstice]

How do the improved quad magtorps from the event compare with the existing gold quad magtorps?

[tame jungle]

you don't commit resources for 2 weeks to get 1 day of fun out of it in this game

[silver stirrup]

either way even if you level up the entire fleet just that coins and oil will run out quickly plus the plates needed for upgrading equipment

[viscid swift]

they're better straight up

[silver stirrup]

unless you have a ton of them then its fine

[whole crypt]

that's kind of not the point

[novel solstice]

Oh, nice.

[tame jungle]

a little more damage, a little better accuracy (longer homing range)

[viscid swift]

I don't get what this has to do with anything

[tame jungle]

let me introduce you to my dear friend oilcap

[silver stirrup]

i fucking hate oil cap

[fresh tangle]

What 😂

[whole crypt]

what's wrong with oil cap, you can use any ships you want without concern of cost

[tame jungle]

bro is standing on business

[silk helm]

maybe that's why he's running out of oil

[silver stirrup]

oh wait I thought you meant the oil cap for use NOT for batlles

[whole crypt]

the point is you should just all the ships you can and raise them together, and push for oilcap stages

[keen sable]

Nice. That's why it's called cost limit peeps

[eager mulch]

I want to remove hard oil cap

[strange sphinx]

hmmmmm In general, what's better? Wyvern or spearfish?

[silver stirrup]

well i did have a problem with my resources once which is the depleted amount of purple genral plates that i have

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

[eager mulch]

without context I’m taking spearfish

[soft raft]

technically Spearfish but its too expensive to be worthwhile over Wyvern

[silver stirrup]

while i was building my ships equipment

[whole crypt]

but you probably shouldn't need to worry about Spearfish anyway because if you do you can't afford it

[elfin hollow]

where does mog place among the boss vanguard dps guys

[whole crypt]

somewhere in top 5 probably

[elfin hollow]

is she better than plymouth, for example?

[whole crypt]

she'll never be better than Plymouth because you also have to include her durability and flag BB buff

[elfin hollow]

idk who to mlb first, guam or mogador, i use guam in my opsi mob fleet so i would do her first

[whole crypt]

Guam

[elfin hollow]

when do we expect vanguard rerun?

[whole crypt]

no idea

[silver stirrup]

this year

[tame jungle]

vanguard rerun will be whenever they announce it

[silver stirrup]

vanguard rerun will be this year

[elfin hollow]

am i better off saving the bulins then?

[tame jungle]

how much you got rn

[silver stirrup]

prob after anni

[elfin hollow]

2

i have to mlb guam and mog (both at 5 stars), miss vanguard and musashi

[tame jungle]

bruh

[elfin hollow]

and then i'll be up to date with all URs

[whole crypt]

I don't think we have time to do a rerun between EN and JP anniv

[elfin hollow]

rerun the week after PR7 maybe?

[silver stirrup]

oh right EN and JP anni is close

[whole crypt]

that's more likely but we don't know

[viscid swift]

meh, it's anyone's guess

[tame jungle]

not a good idea to spread bulins going forward btw

[elfin hollow]

so do i save my 2 bulins or raise guam, i got the meta CV fleet if anything

i can oneshot wichita so idk

[tame jungle]

because you could have had 1 MLB and at max performance rn

[silver stirrup]

how many coures do you have rn

[tame jungle]

doesn't take away from the fact that it's not smart :3

[elfin hollow]

around 1k, idk

[shell willow]

is this sheet available for public?

[silver stirrup]

ok just focus on using it for the UR that you are building currently

[elfin hollow]

so not save? alright

[tame jungle]

eh

[viscid swift]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_-cF_Oin9VyOcVYJmbfjaJRL9bu6f39n-mlZMuoJZIs/edit?usp=sharing

[shell willow]

thx

[tame jungle]

vanny pretty good so i'd say it's worth saving for her

[hushed dawn]

Has anybody else tried a desynced Kearsarge build against Michita?

AFCT instead of black shell + RLD stat not set to 0.

[elfin hollow]

i use nj gun, hvarcat, staag, white shell and hsfcr on her

impla with 2 ap rockets ryuusei 2 catas, york2 with 2 ap rockets skyraider cata beacon (i don't have enough hvars)

[hushed dawn]

Cuz I've noticed in my experience that it has a higher likelihood of getting one shots, but it's overall less consistent.

[elfin hollow]

i can 1shot 60% of the time, vanguard is sirius plym helena

[wise knoll]

i like to confirm something, i did this last month untill 5, since map is already reset can i straight go to the map that has 6th file and farm for that record? like no need to got 1 2 3 4 5 again right?

[whole crypt]

60% is basically most of the competent comps out there

[elfin hollow]

do all builds run helena though

[whole crypt]

no but the non-Helena builds are subject to other RNGs

[elfin hollow]

idk if there's any other highroll as big as helena

[whole crypt]

6th is just repeat secured yeh

[steady beacon]

Uh
Wdym by "less consistent", if it has a "higher likelihood of getting oneshots"?

[hushed dawn]

Means that the damage fluctuates between a total one shot or the lowest I saw was a bit above 1m.

Whereas synced (black shell) does a consistent 1.1m - 1.2m damage on average.

[viscid swift]

1 million is still 75 points so that's not terribly important

[whole crypt]

I'll just say every single comp that claims it's consistent oneshots that I've tested gave me no better than 1/5 for that day

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmm

Well, then the next question is
What does "higher likelihood of oneshot" mean here?
Do you mean it can cheat the 2 SG requirement?

[whole crypt]

do you mean more consistent damage or more consistent oneshots

because more consistent damage doesn't mean squat if it's not enough

[hushed dawn]

It's just comparing overall experience between black shell vs AFCT. I've noticed that I'm getting more one shots with AFCT between the two builds, so in that context, desynced is "more consistent".

[spring bolt]

all popular comps have around 40% one shot rate in my experience, the main difference is using harbin or not
harbin gives more consistent vanguard survivability so less 1m low damage, no harbin means higher one shot rate but much greater chance to have vanguards wiped out early

[forest palm]

people really do not considered droping White Shell for Black Shell...huh?

[whole crypt]

I'm using Agir/Helena/Plymouth now

[whole crypt]

not sure what Wichita's EVA is but it's probably relevant

[viscid swift]

75

[forest palm]

oh, I mean more so in regards to this

[steady beacon]

Well, my question is, did you count the number of SG procs?
Because in my experience it's very possible to just have a string of good Helena runs then a string where she refuses to cooperate

Hence why I counted them when testing both placement and equipment because otherwise my data would have been massively skewed

[forest palm]

I just take the 75 points, and sleep

[hushed dawn]

Yeah I was thinking it could also just be coincidental. Could also just be streaks of good RNG from the vanguard.

[whole crypt]

which is why I'm keeping track of my oneshot/runcount to see the trending

[steady beacon]

Hmmmmm... well, if I remember I'll look into it later, but if de-syncing actually reduces the SG requirement that would come as a surprise ngl...
But for now, too badly backlogged verifying the last comps

[steady beacon]

Mhm, and it is much appreciated

[silk helm]

how much harder is 12-4 compared to 12-1

debating if i should push to farm 12-4 vs staying at 12-1

[eager mulch]

not hard

[whole crypt]

it's harder but depends on what you're bringing, you can afford to bring slightly worse ships to 12-1

I personally prefer 12-1 because it's better chip/oil

[worldly pewter]

i prefer 12-4 because it is better on coin/oil

[silk helm]

Got it ty I guess we'll see. I need coins

[whole crypt]

but newer players may prefer 12-4 because it's better coin and your expenditures will stay up for a while

[keen sable]

you won't notice a difference

[worldly pewter]

yeah coin is just a nightmare

[keen sable]

but you will notice morale

[silk helm]

I'm so broke I started taking c research

[glossy forum]

what gear should i use on harbin?

[slender heart]

for what?

[glossy forum]

like, general usage

pvp/e

[slender heart]

Uhh.. CL stuff with DD gun, evasive aux and hp aux

[whole crypt]

Harbin isn't a regular PvP member
fortunately for Harbin there's not a lot of gear specialization needed for PvE
just check gear reccs on gear guides

[steady beacon]

In any event, I would suggest (at least assuming a modicum of seriousness) not bringing a full PvE setup into PvP

For like... any ship...

[whole crypt]

well a serious PvE setup for late campaign or something

conversely you can get away grinding 12 and OS on PvP gear

[steady beacon]

Indeed, and thank God

[zealous yoke]

Anywhere swiftsure can fit in this fleet? Still new so i’d appreciate advice

[cobalt rapids]

no bu replace qe with unicorn, algerie with portland and foch with helena

[whole crypt]

if you're still new there are these:
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/early_ship_recommendations

in any case Swiftsure is 🚮

[zealous yoke]

Wat

[hushed dawn]

Queen Elizabeth -> Unicorn
Algerie -> Portland
Foch META -> Helena

[cobalt rapids]

read newbie tips and follow that template fleet
portland, helena and unicorn are ships u can buy in guildshop and u should use

qe is queen elizabeth

[meager gyro]

what do i buy here? someone said i should get royal fortune once

[cobalt rapids]

try /coredata

[meager gyro]

/coredata

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Core_Data_Priority.jpeg

[meager gyro]

doesnt help me much

[haughty dust]

for those of you who have seen my current roster situation. I just got this character to max limit break. Do I need to swap out any of my operation siren characters with her or what is she good for?

[fresh tangle]

Yes it does

[tame jungle]

decent offtank and torp enabler

[meager gyro]

it doesnt

[exotic wren]

Basically it said, get inpendence, 3 pairs of black and white shells

[meager gyro]

i already have all of the red stuff

[sweet delta]

No guide can help him

[tame jungle]

just save your shit

[cobalt rapids]

no she isnt replacing any1

[exotic wren]

Then you pick whatever you need from the greens

[left cedar]

fear of a new salty

[whole crypt]

do you have Independence > do you have enough shells > cog chips and arrays

[sweet delta]

wheres 15-4 lethal ironblood only

[zealous yoke]

…. They all lvl 1 ono

[meager gyro]

i have independence and whats enoug shells?

[meager gyro]

dont need anything from the greens

[left cedar]

give me broken UR KMS CVs, them we can talk

[keen sable]

Bad indy bad

[worldly pewter]

get the array and

[whole crypt]

enough black and white sells to equip every one of your BBs that are being used

[haughty dust]

Is this character good for operation siren or something else?

[cobalt rapids]

shes decent but worse than ur option so she isnt replacing any1

[left cedar]

Noshiro its usable, but not gud enough to make her usefull as many other options

[sweet delta]

Good for manual torp fleet gameplay but she's far from the best nowadays

[haughty dust]

ok well is she good for anything?

[tame jungle]

she's ok for torpmemes now

[haughty dust]

What about world 13 and up?

[cobalt rapids]

worse than ur options

[zealous yoke]

So is this good?

[cobalt rapids]

but if u rly like her use her

[meager gyro]

i think im gonna buy roon u

[keen sable]

Still useless

[zealous yoke]

Problem is they all lvl 1

[whole crypt]

@zealous yoke

[zealous yoke]

Ow

[sweet delta]

[tame jungle]

whatever man gl

[cobalt rapids]

that fleet u had was better restructured now than later

[keen sable]

Not you. It's ok

[left cedar]

seens like suchi is already salty

[whole crypt]

I wouldn't recommend it but it's not the worst thing you can do with core shop so whatever

[left cedar]

Core shop nowadays have so many traps that i cant say wut is the worse one ...

[keen sable]

You know what, they do have guaranteed gear in them

[whole crypt]

actually the French fighter is probably worse

[left cedar]

this is the AA one right ?

[whole crypt]

there's also this, it's just a worse snorkel

[zealous yoke]

How to get medals? Also what is retrofitting?

[undone plover]

Sub gear, ddg gear, CV timing gear, cog chips and arrays are all higher prio than roon muse but I guess pointless to mention now

[keen sable]

Play the game. Go to ship detail of Unicorn and tap retrofit

[zealous yoke]

And how to get more ship exp? Need to lvl up my fleet

[cobalt rapids]

sortie

[whole crypt]

medals come from retiring ships that are at least blue rarity

[tame jungle]

1 - retiring blue/purple (and gold rarity ships) via build menu
2 - retrofitting is improving certain ships that have this feature unlocked. you'll need to clear hard mode stages to get the material for that

[keen sable]

Play the game but if you saved exp books now is the time to use a few.

[whole crypt]

I doubt he has any besides maybe 1 or 2 weeks' worth of supply pack

[keen sable]

Doesn't take much to get to L24

[whole crypt]

10 actually

[zealous yoke]

Dont have any

Im still chapter 3. Stuck on it till i lvl up my ships

[whole crypt]

go to shop and pick up the free supplies pack, should give you a handful

[zealous yoke]

Already did, wasted it on the ssrs like the newbie i am

[whole crypt]

ah well, put the ship(s) in dorm and maybe go back to 2-4 to level them for like 2 runs

[cobalt rapids]

ul get the first 20 lvls back in no time, its not a biggie

[keen sable]

| save
| now
it is what it is. Save them

[hushed dawn]

What stat should I level up after CV RLD?

[cobalt rapids]

hit

if ure done with bb rld

[hushed dawn]

I am indeed done with BB RLD.

Do we have a list of fleet tech to prioritise in order?

[zealous yoke]

do i need to worry about equipment?

[cobalt rapids]

rld>hit>avi/fp for backline
cruiser eva > vang fp > rest for vang
if done with vang fp aswell then rld/hit/trp

[zealous yoke]

or is it negligible?

[cobalt rapids]

u should worry indeed about equip
i recc reading sams guide in /equip it losts poverty options and the earlier u start reading about gear the better

[south sequoia]

Equipment is as core as the characters themselves.

[whole crypt]

equipment is very important but you won't have too much to do with them at this point

[zealous yoke]

hm

[south sequoia]

Very early on you can power through if you have levels, but that doesn't mean you should fully ignore gear

[whole crypt]

more like you won't have much choice besides powering through with levels because you'll mostly only have shit gear

[undone plover]

Back in the day I was told acc>rld

[whole crypt]

depends™️

[strange sphinx]

So what's better BB gun for Nelson? she is in mob

[undone plover]

Which chapter? Twin 457 if u have is the standard mob gun late game

[cobalt rapids]

back in the day i think i said >=
since hit is linear dmg increase greater than fp per point unconditinoed by thresholds which was a consideration only for meta battles
but now i realize rld is more important for wave timings in campaign aswell therefore its number 1 prio

[whole crypt]

the thing about BB RLD is the UR BBs are generally fast enough and actually outrun Helena in some cases nowadays, and higher level enemies have relevant EVA
RLD tech is only useful until it stops being useful

carrier RLD though you'll definitely want more

[undone plover]

It is okay i worked on both (for CV at least)
But yeah good points

[keen sable]

It's very important to correctly utilize your stage rewards actually

[stark quiver]

How much decor tokens can I earn per week

[whole crypt]

depends on how diligently you refresh commissions but I'm not sure we have a good number for this

[undone plover]

I have a screenshot from 1 week ago
I have had 900 since then
not sure when i claimed the last Cruise pass rewards though

[strange sphinx]

hmmmmm, in exchange shop in opsi, Does buying some File mission is advisable?

[cobalt rapids]

yea,ull want to do em eventually
use ur spare vouchers on it since they dont go away and one time

[undone plover]

most optimal would be buying all the other coords first and using excess on the file missions
but if u want to rush a UR gear then get as many as u want

[whole crypt]

if you're in a hurry for a rainbow print but the later map bosses get a bit hard

there's not a huge reason to rush them since they're one-time anyway

[strange sphinx]

does the file reset?

I mean I already bought all coordinate

[whole crypt]

even if you gather enough prints you probably won't have enough of the other materials to make a piece of rainbow gear

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm in Rainbow gearlab? What should I do first If I have enough mats? BB or Aircraft?

[whole crypt]

usually the first thing you'll be recommended to make is wyverns

that's besides making converging TBs or 2x1000lb fighters while you wait for prints

[lethal adder]

why is my friedrich carl randomly not getting full xp even though when i back out and check her morale is >130

[whole crypt]

there's really not a lot of incentive to rush all the file zones, I'd say do one or two when you're just short of the rainbow prints

[whole crypt]

define full XP

[lethal adder]

less than the other two vangaurds, seems like the 20% from morale and it just happened, then didnt happen, then happened again

[whole crypt]

do you have a screenshot of the result screen

[strange sphinx]

what are converging tb in gearlab again? also what faction

[whole crypt]

tenzan > tenzan kai > ryuusei for IJN
Ju-87 D-4 for KMS, the base plane is a blue plane you get from KMS boxes, you should also have 1 copy from ch1 of OS if you didn't scrap it

[lethal adder]

well it was this except she got 1047 iirc

[whole crypt]

I assume she wasn't flag
could be morale being wonky

[tame jungle]

first vanguard slot doesn't have extra xp does it

[shell willow]

the easier nodes give less xp no?

[whole crypt]

morale sometimes doesn't update properly while staying within a stage

[tame jungle]

less than the other two vanguards

[shell willow]

nvm ignore me

[whole crypt]

only flag and MVP have bonuses, besides the likes of XP skills, morale bonus and CTA

[tame jungle]

if it's 20% it's probs morale system being wonky

[lethal adder]

yeah she got less which she shouldnt have so i backed out to check, and she had 130 morale, which obviously wouldnt go down to <120 in one battle, then two battles later she got less again and when i checked she had 136 (not that that should matter since its still nowhere near 120)

[whole crypt]

it probably refreshed her morale when you left the map and wasn't updating properly before that

[lethal adder]

but if it had refreshed then it cant have gone from 130 to <120 in one battle

[whole crypt]

if you keep getting it I recommend taking full screenshots of your result screen and dock/dorm morale check

[plain saffron]

morale refresh is wonky

[lethal adder]

unless its not registering her dorm morale but IS registering the playground?

while actively showing me what it should be xd

[whole crypt]

who knows, morale refresh is just generally wonky

[lethal adder]

(one of my backliners should have exactly the same morale as her as well and never got less xp actually that one's the flagship so i probably just didnt notice the bug for her

[whole crypt]

if in doubt restart the game

[plain saffron]

relog is enough

airplane mode also works

[undone plover]

are you using any ship with xp gain skill?

[frigid linden]

Is Ayanami worth investing in

[lethal adder]

shes cute and has good torps

[soft raft]

Not really
At best she's a manual facetorp meme on boss fleets

[lethal adder]

ah hm i relogged and now everyones morale is 16 less than it said

which doesn't add up with how many runs i did im pretty sure it straight up scammed all my dorm morale and only registered playground

[soft raft]

or it could jusst be bugged
try relogging again

[lethal adder]

lmao really?

[plain saffron]

once in a while server ping the client to trigger the morale refresh. idk how frequent the ping is

[whole crypt]

morale update can get very wonky yes

[plain saffron]

you're depending on server to tell when to refresh so

but if you relog it force call the refresh

hmm theres this timer, might be the client side auto refresh?

[keen sable]

If 130 is your baseline then you are playing with fire. You don't keep them morale synced?

[lethal adder]

ah wait two of the fleet has 150 i guess it didnt think i swapped some even though it knows now and displayed them correctly

[lethal adder]

i have 4 slots and only use the second floor, works fine

when the game is working fine

[strange sphinx]

hmmmm should I choose "No focus" in Research selections?

[whole crypt]

never

if you're done with a series move on to focus another one

[lethal adder]

unless youre doing some year long bet about which girls will appear the most when its full random?

[strange sphinx]

man, 60K, need to farm.. do 13-1 give more coin vs 12-4 or no?

[stark quiver]

No

less efficient?

[sweet delta]

Maybe it is yesn't after all. On paper 13-1 gives more coins but fewer coins per oil, but in reality 13-1 gives more or less coins but more coins per oil

[eternal basalt]

And it's not worth the difficulty hike

[keen sable]

so basically it's irrelevant. just do 12+

[wide marsh]

?

[forest palm]

maybe if you were in it for the Cog Chips

[sweet delta]

One day I'll compute the expectation and adjust oil cost accordingly

[wide marsh]

I keep wondering now. Why my mobfleet BB start to melt down at W11? And how do i fix that.

[keen sable]

wtf are those exact numbers. so if you add my 40 runs the average is actually 6.8 nice.

[forest palm]

literal burn damage, not catch suicide boats

[wide marsh]

gotcha

[forest palm]

ships having a skill issue, and gear issue

[keen sable]

get to 12 and all your problems are solved

[wide marsh]

Where is "meta" place to grind some exp for my ships?

[keen sable]

12+ and events

[stark quiver]

i do 12-1

[forest palm]

if you want thorough help just open a thread, and post your dock, and so on

[wide marsh]

I need just some general wisdom. Not full time tutoring

Why 12+ worlds better for EXP than 9-1 for instance?

[sweet delta]

That's just the way the game works

The exp and oil numbers are set by the devs

[keen sable]

everything is better including probably chance of dying

[forest palm]

world 12 and onward gives cog chips, and augment xp frags

[wide marsh]

Cogs. I see now. Thanks again

[zinc turret]

idk about 9-1 but atleast w12 mob fleet way easier than w10 (specially the elite battleship) and yeah as other guy said its give more exp and gold than w9 im literally carrying 3 vanguard for IB fleet tech at 12-1 and they survived killing all mob till the boss show up

[eager mulch]

wasting xp

[zinc turret]

kinda true but if i changed my back line my vanguard might die since its level just too low lol

maybe i can swap the perseus and enty so i can farm enty exp

[wide marsh]

Ok. One more "smart" question. What ship should i look for if i want tanky DD?

[eager mulch]

Laffey 2

[zinc turret]

laffii

[wide marsh]

I dont think i can farm LF2 now.
Basic Laffey good?

[zinc turret]

laffey II not the starter

[soft raft]

Laffey II isnt even avaliable right now
regular Laffey is your typical average DD

[eager mulch]

I’d say Laffey is slightly above average

[sweet delta]

Then don't look for a tanky DD

[soft raft]

your next best bet for tanky DD until Vanguard event and BisZwei event reruns is Felix but even then she'd still be less tanky than usual tank material

[eager mulch]

Felix is perma

[wide marsh]

Just curious. I know i should start rolling out CL/CA

[modest moat]

That’s not a very productive statement imo

[wide marsh]

I read about "chinese boiler meta" once. You just slap some +SPD aux so your DDs start actually dodging projectiles in PVP at some point by moving

[sweet delta]

Ask #pvp

There also a pinned sheet there

[forest palm]

I do that all the time

[wide marsh]

Can you advice any good ships that could better fit my torpedo oriented vanguard?(boss fleet)

[low juniper]

Is the right better for Laffii?

[sweet delta]

The right is better for every single ship who can equip torpedoes in the game by a lot

[eager mulch]

we love anchorage torp damage

[low juniper]

Is the 24 difference really that significant or does it have something to do with the rld time? Or both?

[sweet delta]

everything

[wispy pendant]

TLDR, gold quint mag torps kinda bad compared to quad mag torps. And the new quad mags better than old quad mags.

[low juniper]

Why is the first part the case?

[viscid swift]

Damage per torp, reload, spread, etc

[sweet delta]

worse damage per torp, terrible reload time, and can't be +13'd

[wispy pendant]

A gold gear that can’t be +13’d is weird. How many other cases are like that?

[low juniper]

How come the quad can be +13'd and the quin can't

[sweet delta]

the quint is T2...

[wide marsh]

Isn't T0 torps faster too compared to T2?

[wispy pendant]

T2 vs t0

[eternal moth]

T1 and T2 gear can't be upgraded to +13, has to be T3 or T0

[wispy pendant]

How many other gold gear isn’t t3 or 0

[low juniper]

Why are they both gold but different tiers, that's weird

[sweet delta]

waiting for T3 pressure resistant hull design

[eternal moth]

Not many, but there are a few

[eternal moth]

It has to do with where they are on the tech tree, not their rarity

[low juniper]

Oh

[lethal adder]

okay its still happening, the game is not acknowledging that im swapping people in the dorm even though it displays everything correctly, regardless of relogs

relogging does make it acknowledge the moving tho, just have to relog every time i move someone and keep the morale in my head instead

[sweet delta]

i recommend using the first floor for morale

[lethal adder]

if i were bumrushing an event sure but theres no need right now, 4 slots in the second floor feeds more morale than i gain oil

[cobalt rapids]

why micro it when u can use 6 slots for morale instead

[lethal adder]

because the first floor has two features

[cobalt rapids]

the other feature of the first floor is ignoreable

and even then the 2 ships on the first floor ure grinding with will get xp just like any other 2 ships u keep there as long as they are uncapped

[lethal adder]

i am aware of how it all works, and your suggestion is just wasting free xp okay

[cobalt rapids]

what is wasting

the xp doesnt go anywhere i just said

[lethal adder]

you literally mentioned how it does lol

[cobalt rapids]

i mentioned how it doesnt if u care about it ? just keep em uncapped while grinding and u get the best of both worlds?

[lethal adder]

research and lecture hall xp mechanics are only from sortie-ing, and i want xp on ships i am not sortie-ing, and i don't have unlimited xp books, and i do not need to use the first floor for morale

[cobalt rapids]

unless ure a new player u get enough books while grinding a fleet to 120 to raise next batch of ships to survivable lvls

[lethal adder]

and if thats not enough reasoning for you since yes in the long run you do have unlimited xp books and several other things also don't matter, i want xp on ships i am not sortie-ing ASAP to limit break them= clear my dock

[cobalt rapids]

dorm xp is the furthest thing from getting xp ASAP

[lethal adder]

if i had been dorm xp-ing my mob fleets then i'd be getting TOO much lecture hall production

and obviously not the dorm xp on ships i want it on

[eternal moth]

That last line doesn't make sense to me.

[viscid swift]

I don't get what the argument is even about anymore

[eternal moth]

And you can safely ignore lecture hall production if you're active

[lethal adder]

i am not at the point where i drag level 50s in 12-4 for xp

[sweet delta]

let them minmax

[lethal adder]

^ its not much xp yeah but i have no reason to not minmax this

[eternal moth]

Also, unless you have 6 dorm slots, you want to use the 1st floor of the dorm to make sure all six of your mob fleet is at least getting to 150

[lethal adder]

as noted, 4 slots on the second floor is more than enough to outmorale my oil gain

[cobalt rapids]

u had an issue u complained about, u were given a solution
apparently its not worth the tradeoff so u found ur resolution

[wide marsh]

Buying 6th dorm slot worth it considering i need to expand port size and im f2p?

[lethal adder]

the issue is a new bug lmao, which ive figured out and is just annoying not actually doing anything

[viscid swift]

No

[eternal moth]

And what's the actual bug?

[lethal adder]

the game is visually functioning normal but it doesnt recognize that i swap people in the dorm unless relog

[wide marsh]

Ok. Last question for today. What vang ship you think i can swap for Noshiro? I really cant decide >.<

[eternal moth]

Ayanami. Easy

[wide marsh]

Why?

[sweet delta]

kagerou but realistically you should swap the whole fleet

[eternal moth]

Wait, that's Kagerou, not Tanikaze. Then yeah

[wide marsh]

Can you tell me the reason so i can understand it too?

[sweet delta]

what content are you playing, and are you manualing?

[viscid swift]

the fleet is strictly for manual torp memes and even there are better fleets you can build

[eternal moth]

Typically when building a torp meme fleet like that you want 2 ships buffing a single strong torper. You have 3 torpers and no buffs

[viscid swift]

it's not optimal for anything and is just a meme from years ago

and Akagi and Kaga aren't doing anything useful in that fleet

faction fleets as a whole are also just bad

[lethal adder]

faction buffs and torp memes are for turbo speedrunning the chapters on a budget, and torp meme is fun as well, but yeah id say this depends a lot on what your goal is

[wide marsh]

PVE main compaign. I go manual when just sending them on auto isnt working.

[eternal moth]

Noshiro/Tanikaze/one of Naganami, Ayanami or Shimakaze used to be the recommendation, but I don't know if anyone's taken over those spots now

[viscid swift]

well that fleet sucks for auto play

you pretty much have to go manual with it

and there are better fleets you can build which will likely do better than it on auto

[lethal adder]

^ and i assume youre at or almost at chapter 12 so its gonna get extra rough soon

[wide marsh]

Literally 11-4 now.

[viscid swift]

kinda makes things worse beacuse a lot of bosses pre W12 are light armor which torps are not ideal against

[wide marsh]

Why you hate foxes tho? They do solid burst damage on a budget.

[viscid swift]

because they're bad

[sweet delta]

i wouldnt call them budget

[viscid swift]

their damage isn't good and they're not budget in the slightest

[undone plover]

since he already invested in them it counts as budget now

[wide marsh]

I mean at least i can powergrind em at mines.

[viscid swift]

ignoring the potential cost in farming 3-4, you need 8 gold bullins to MLB them and you need to sortie them together which restricts fleet building

compare that to Enterprise who is much better, has no requirements to be sortied with another ship, and can be obtained in the medal shop or from the rookie missions

the foxes have no redeeming quailities compared to other opitons you can easily get early game but do have a lot of potential oppurtunity cost involved with them

and no being able to grind them in 3-4 is not a redeeming quality

[undone plover]

cheeky u need to prepare sth for this. much less effort

[wide marsh]

[lethal adder]

yeah i guess i shouldve been more clear on the faction stuff being budget. it CAN be pretty strong on a budget, but not here lol

torps are definitely budget tho

[viscid swift]

I would very well argue that's not true but make your case

[lethal adder]

sorry im not well versed on all of them i just remember reading the ectl chapters guide which uses cheap/map drop ships to speedrun it and it made use of a few

[silk helm]

i haven't crafted anything in gear lab before. is there anything on the gear lab guide i should prioritize first?

[viscid swift]

the ECTL's newbie guide is quite out of date, so I wouldn't draw too much from that

[sweet delta]

[viscid swift]

Wyverns and Ju-87ds would pretty much be the first priorities

[wide marsh]

My mob fleet bad too or is it ok? Swaped Shinano for Saratoga today to get Shinano some exp to LB her.

[viscid swift]

it's better than your boss fleet

I would say it's servicable, though you can do much better than Kii for BBs

[sweet delta]

it's solid

[undone plover]

although z23 is capped. maybe swap her to boss , or swap her out

[silk helm]

okie what should i do with my purple mats

[sweet delta]

anything or nothing

[viscid swift]

they'll be used for crafting intermediate gear mainly

[wide marsh]

I dont have others good lvled up and FLB options for Kii

[sweet delta]

theres tenzan kai as a budget ryuusei timing convTB

[silk helm]

how do i know if i need like timing n stuff?

[viscid swift]

that's something you might want to look into changing right now then

Nelson retro is the baseline for a good BB these days

[wide marsh]

Z23 with magador gun almoust solo carry entire fleet so they can grind EXP

[undone plover]

fair but u are losing that xp slot. u can put helena and raise her there
unicorn should carry that fleet anyway

[wide marsh]

What BB you think I should start leveling up to replace Kii?

[sweet delta]

none i guess

theres Nelson but really you could just sit in chapter 12 while waiting for UR BBs and fdg

[wide marsh]

Hm. I can start grinding exp for FdG actually

[viscid swift]

get to W12 first

[lethal adder]

i think all my fdg xp came from the free exam xp

[wide marsh]

I asked to understand what i should aim for in future. Except for FdG

[lethal adder]

is the ectl tier list at least updated enough for these queries?

[viscid swift]

Nelson retro and Hood in the short term

[silk helm]

why not hood

[sweet delta]

because Nelson is better and Kii isn't bad

[viscid swift]

well probably not Hood since you'll be leveling Seydlitz for FDG's CDC

[silk helm]

i see

[left cedar]

iirc Kii hits quite hard, she is quite a gold BB

[wide marsh]

Ow... I just realized i have to grind fdg with MAIN fleet IB which i have none lvled.
Also I think Nelson is better option because of heavy armor.

[left cedar]

u have Seydlitz

Bis ... and Thurin/FdG

[lethal adder]

you have lvl94 gneisu c:

[wide marsh]

She is bad

[brazen hornet]

Good morning, is Alvtir a Boss or Mob type? Maybe both? Thanks! =]

[viscid swift]

so? it doesn't really matter what you use to grind XP with, just about anything works in W12 on safe which is where you should be farming

[worldly pewter]

good morning to u too

[lethal adder]

also yeah how close are you to the second research exam cuz that thing gives a lot of free xp for fdg

[wide marsh]

Already got tier 2 like 2 days ago

[sweet delta]

do not use that exp on unlocking ships

[worldly pewter]

after reading her skills she looks like a mobbing or bossing in campaign against light bosses specifically for max potential

[lethal adder]

[wide marsh]

Ehm. Why not?

[viscid swift]

what you should be doing is converting them to prototype cores

grinding XP takes less than a week whereas getting that same amount of prototype cores could take potentially months early on

[soft raft]

Possibly both but she's honestly not looking to be anything good outside of tech points and BB FP tech

[brazen hornet]

Thank you! ⭐

[lethal adder]

well shit thats a silly mechanic

[brazen hornet]

Thank you! =]

[wide marsh]

Darn. I didnt even know I can swap my combat data for protocores.

[tame jungle]

You are welcome

[zinc turret]

well no need to worry cuz its not the end of the world if u use the combat data for exp but it will extend ur time to grinding gear bps at research

[sweet delta]

is it normal for a BB flagship to get deleted by CM Spee?

[worldly pewter]

it is just a smol notice for some time zone awarness

[hollow gust]

Oh shit that's a buttdial

[wide marsh]

How can i affect BB salvo spread except for swapping guns? Can they hit more accurate depending on HIT stat or HIT only affect rolls against EVA?

[undone plover]

spread stat should help in theory
idk how practical it is tho
u can run a slow/stop in certain comps
or just have BZ

hit only affects the rng with evasion check

[cobalt rapids]

idr her hitting backline that hard

[shell willow]

over the course of 6 minutes my alsace almost died with no healing on highest diff

[cobalt rapids]

Memories blank head empty

[wide marsh]

What is BZ and how can i affect spread?

[cobalt rapids]

Bismarck zwei and spread can be reduced by some skills and gear

[sweet delta]

my izumo died in 4 minutes

on another note, Nelson's flags' description is wrong, it transfers damage from all vanguard ships, not just the frontmost

on a third note, CM Spee still takes 100% more damage from the vanguard forever, not for 12s per claw

[wide marsh]

What is CM?

[sweet delta]

/wiki extreme challenge

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Extreme_Challenge

[wide marsh]

But why CM? (oh, its ChallengeMode)

[half plover]

if most SR or elite ships are just tech, can I just choose where to spend my bulins?

[sweet delta]

yes, but some of these ships aren't "most SR" and could be useful depending on your other ships

[wispy pendant]

Eh… not sure I find any of those ships still useful

[crystal flame]

/w15

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

This is a guide for world 15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PHOpBGltnFNemxxsATJ-Qx-buk4HSh1jnIYFeK9EqhI/edit?usp=sharing

[low juniper]

What's the gear lab priority

[light trail]

either of these two are still better on anchorage than the new quad torps right (for the lower reload time)?

ok tyty

[sweet delta]

stick with these unless you know what you're doing in some specific battle

[light trail]

i dont have either of those is the thing

[sweet delta]

their bps drop from research

[light trail]

oh shit they do. thanks, crafting now. which is better generally?

[sweet delta]

i always use the blue but it doesn't matter

i lied, i used the gray once upon a time

[remote yarrow]

#bot-spam /gearlab if you are talking about URs probably Wyvern first

[undone plover]

does xp boosting skills stack? like houshou and langley?

[light trail]

since it's just reload time we want?

[cobalt rapids]

they stack iirc

[shell willow]

yuubari skill says that it stacks up to x times in game

but idk those 2

[viscid swift]

all XP skills should say that

they changed it when Argus was added so that at max you can stack 2 XP boosting skills

[left cedar]

in the end, stacking them isnt worth it cuz, even if u get a bonus XP still less than 100% of a new ship being lvled or a faction specific for PR Grind

[undone plover]

true... was just curious

[cobalt rapids]

in the end i didnt even lvl their skills

[left cedar]

the only one that can be somehow debatable of being worth it, itz Nurn

imagine Lvling SSs them with Nurn just get a bit easier, but still shit as fuck

[cobalt rapids]

the worst part about sub lvling is affinity else u can just pack em to max

[elfin hollow]

What are some best mob battleships (besides hood)

[left cedar]

if u are going to aff farm, them just fuck farm the XP also ...

u are wasting time, books and XP if u rush them with book them just go to aff

[elfin hollow]

Rainbow?

[left cedar]

except Warspite, yes, all UR/DR BBs are gud

[cobalt rapids]

ofc i meant before

[elfin hollow]

(Specifically mob type battleships)

[cobalt rapids]

altho aff farming maxed ships isnt excluded

[left cedar]

imo
FdG and UvH are real gud with Mobs, exceptions to W15

[undone plover]

nelson is also good and easily available

[elfin hollow]

UvH?

[left cedar]

Ulrich Von Hutten

[elfin hollow]

Ah

[strange sphinx]

well My mob fleet consist of Uni, Sara and Alsace in Main

[elfin hollow]

Is Marco polo good?

[left cedar]

no Bias there 🌊
and u know that

[elfin hollow]

Or replace it with FDG?

[strange sphinx]

Hmmm Same question, kind of didn't get thw answer, is 13-1 give more coins vs 12-4 or no?

[cobalt rapids]

shes good but now theres better readier options

[left cedar]

kinda strange, cuz, she is gud Mobber, have a gud DPS in Bosses, but still "hard" to get acess than FdG andconsiderable worse ...

[cobalt rapids]

either is fine basicly
but 13-1 is considerably harder so take that into account

[undone plover]

marco doesnt have 100% barrage right?

[viscid swift]

nope

[strange sphinx]

it is in safe mode so I can?

[cobalt rapids]

maybe

[coarse geyser]

Going into world 13, what fleet should I be running ? / work towards ( just assume I have all the purple ones, unless they’re event ones. Just ask in that case ig)

[lethal adder]

i am so confused by these pictures with that dock capacity

[viscid swift]

Mob: Aquila, Unicorn, Essex, Portland, Scylla, Sirius
Boss: Alsace, Implacable, Enterprise, Guam, helena, Anchorage

[coarse geyser]

Huh? Explain please

Can’t stop the post help 😭

[lethal adder]

you just have so many dupes (and bulins) for i cant imagine why, and should have more dock space at chapter 13 anyway

[half plover]

you should spend your coins to break all your gold ships with your dupes and also should retire the dupes from the ones that are mlb already

how can u survive with that left dock space

[coarse geyser]

Exp 😭

So tedious to grind

[coarse geyser]

Personally I feel like keeping one of each

[half plover]

keeping one dupe?

[coarse geyser]

Play the game on and off, but also retire like every 3 sortie

[lethal adder]

you mean, leveling them to limit break levels? i see a bunch that already are, and even like baltimore is maxed and you have a dupe

[coarse geyser]

Of mlb yeah

[coarse geyser]

I uh am fucking blind then. But yes leveling to mlb

[half plover]

yeah I dont say you should retire them. you can retire dupes from the ones you already mlbd

baltimore yeah

my phrasing was bad sry

[coarse geyser]

Another quick one

Realistically , having one mlb of every/most ships

[worldly pewter]

why are u playing then ?

[coarse geyser]

How much dock space or I guess, how much u guys got

[coarse geyser]

Man if you’re saying I have to minmax a mobile game, then get outta here

Play nonstop oh hell naw

[lethal adder]

as a fairly fresh account in f2p i have 310 at world 12, but the total ship count is a lot more than that if you did have them all

[coarse geyser]

I’m just here for the personality

[viscid swift]

I have 750

[worldly pewter]

i don't allow u to make me say what i didn't say
i just asked a simple question

[lethal adder]

you also have a maxed takao with another one at limit break 1 i hope shes your waifu

[viscid swift]

grinding Xp also isn't difficult, just set it to auto repeat W12 in the back ground while you do something else

[coarse geyser]

Pretty old now like 2-3 don’t remember if it’s 3 or 2 years ago I made it 💀

[coarse geyser]

Man, guess we blind 😭

[coarse geyser]

Phones going to explode, also do shit pretty regularly with and without, kinda need it at a good battery level

[lethal adder]

yeah this game is too time consuming to tryhard in if you only play on phone imo thats why i quit when PRs came out

[coarse geyser]

Send doctor please

[half plover]

do you have a pc?

[viscid swift]

play on PC or a laptop using an emulator

[coarse geyser]

I do but I have better things to do and play on there

Let’s be real

[half plover]

then just enjoy the game

the way u want

[viscid swift]

like I said, you can just have it autofarming in the background, not difficult

[coarse geyser]

I know, just tryna have som nice fleets right

[half plover]

I think u should focus on opsi with ur time

[viscid swift]

that's what I'm doing right now

[half plover]

because that gear is so insanely good

[coarse geyser]

There a good guide out there? All I get is fight enemies but I gotta click on em (no auto tracking)

[half plover]

farm the tuning and clear the whole map then you can start doing dailies and work towards the hard content

if you finish everything you are good

but the best rewards are obtainable on the hardest stages

[sweet delta]

There will be auto search and strategic search outside the opsi story campaign

[coarse geyser]

Thank you gentlemen 🙏

And gentlewoman

[half plover]

welcome to azur lane; too much opsi already

[lethal adder]

i use the fleets i dont clear with to sit near enemies and then go back to the clear fleet and hit auto search

[half plover]

I just spend ap to auto reckon

[lethal adder]

might be stupid idk im an opsi noob

[viscid swift]

just burn some extra AP for recon so you can auto search clear the map

[strange sphinx]

Sadge gonna wait opsi to regen to 100 to do some abyssal

Hello Umi, give coin for Fdg

[half plover]

fdg takes forever to dev30, does she have fs?

[viscid swift]

yes

[half plover]

😭

[strange sphinx]

why renhex and unique?

[eager mulch]

who?

[strange sphinx]

yoh tell me

[cobalt rapids]

why what

[keen sable]

you did get an answer. you just maybe don't believe it?

[keen sable]

sounds like you went too hard on ops if you ran out of AP

[strange sphinx]

Ah I thought it is about the ospi 100 Ap

gomen

[cobalt rapids]

im so lost

[keen sable]

they want an explanation for the reactions to not having 100 AP

[viscid swift]

if you really want to rush OpSi at the beggining of the month, one of the things you need to do is to clear nodes that give AP boxes for clearing them

[strange sphinx]

well about that....

oh well only three abyssal stage are left in my opsi so I can wait

[grizzled sun]

For Chang Chun should I get her four gods seal first or her missile from the core shop?

[viscid swift]

missile, but please don't retrofit her if you're not ready for it

[cobalt rapids]

can bbs block cv from launching

[grizzled sun]

Don’t purchase her until I can go from buy to full retro in one sitting?

[viscid swift]

well, you need 1600 core data worth of equipment for her and her retrofit item which costs 1k Specialized Cores

it's not cheap especially with Specialized cores being in demand for UR Bullins

[keen sable]

don't retrofit != don't purchase her

[still merlin]

Azuma or unzen for w15?

[grizzled sun]

Haven’t spent any core data, have 4.6k right now

[viscid swift]

do you have UR ships still waiting to be limit broken

[stark quiver]

neither

[still merlin]

Ik it’s a bad idea but I’m making one of the two fleets a faction one

[grizzled sun]

Nvm 4.6 special core*

[keen sable]

well glad i don't have to tell you it's a bad idea then

[grizzled sun]

Haven’t got a UR yet, one UR dupe in inventory

[still merlin]

Somehow working fine rn I think

[stark quiver]

i mean if you can make it work then go ahead

[soft raft]

"I have no URs"
"I have a dupe UR"
??

[grizzled sun]

The token one,to limit break

[viscid swift]

you mean a bullin? save for your first gacha UR then

seeing as you also can't afford the core data for Chang Chun's equips

[still merlin]

Should I put torp bulge or beaver squad on azuma?

[cobalt rapids]

bulge

[wide marsh]

Where can I read a decent guide for advanced game tips? Like "turn combat data packs to cores"

[worldly pewter]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
bookmark this somewhere

tap on gameplay for other stuff

[clever lance]

Are the gold tier research projects worth doing if they cost cubes?

[tame jungle]

if you have enough sure

[clever lance]

What’s considered “enough”?

[tame jungle]

(enough being at the very least 400+)

(and you'll probably want to have even bigger reserves lol)

[clever lance]

Is that like.. enough to be able to pull for two back to back events?

[viscid swift]

what do you mean by gold tier exactly

[tame jungle]

it's enough for a single UR pity

[worldly pewter]

nope

[soft raft]

400 cubes is how many you need to guarentee pity on a UR banner

[wide marsh]

Sad I don't have this guide when I started. Ty.

[keen sable]

there's good gold and bad gold. 4H is bad gold

0H and 0D are infrequent enough that it's irrelevant

[visual blaze]

Any ships yall would recommend building/leveling?

[keen sable]

Volga, JdA, Dommy. You could just use a tier list if you don't want to tell us how bad your current fleets are.

[soft raft]

what are you even running for your fleets rn

[visual blaze]

gimme a sec

(this is what ive been running recently)

[stark quiver]

drop laffey 2 and is this for campaign?

[forest palm]

Ulrich on mob is the most concerning thing there

[soft raft]

Non D-30 Hindenburg

jesus and a 0LB Laffey II

[keen sable]

laffii is the least of the issues

[stark quiver]

also 0 lb guam

[visual blaze]

no coin :(

[keen sable]

keep going...

[soft raft]

Why the flying fuck are you using her then

[forest palm]

it's one of those things where the more you look at it, the worse it gets

[visual blaze]

i dont know, honestly

i just run with what i have (have mercy on me)

[keen sable]

^ I pray you have 10 gold bulins and around 50k coin

[steady yoke]

dont sweat it man, i been farming a wip fleet on 10-4 with none of their skills leveled and it works fine

[visual blaze]

tbh i just brute force everything. But after i tried to clear EX in this event i realized i needed more teams

[grizzled sun]

Does Howe count as one of the royal navy ships needed for her buff, or need 3 other navy ships?

👌

[worldly pewter]

do u mean sp ?

[steady yoke]

thats about all ive ever done which is probably all the large majority of players ever do if they play long enough and casually enough

[visual blaze]

its the one where you need 5 fleets

[soft raft]

Abdou why are you surprised? EX requires 5 fleets

[grizzled sun]

Oh was going by in game description of the skill…which is definitely not that lol

[whole crypt]

pretty sure you'll realize you need more fleets by SP, not EX

[worldly pewter]

i was exposed tbh i never did an ex stage before

[soft raft]

normal EX stages only have one fleet fight
however since this is a more funky event format, it's different this time around

[viscid swift]

you only need to beat the first stage of EX anyway for the cogs

anything else is just personal satisfaction

[viscid swift]

that aside, these do suck

[soft raft]

Ah motherfu-
Damn I wasted all my time trying to beat all 5 for nothing

[steady yoke]

event as in this school uhh.. is it track day thing?

[soft raft]

goofy ahh port timeline shenanagins yes

[keen sable]

you didn't read the story?

[lyric night]

with hit do you mean accuracy, and avi is anti-air?

[keen sable]

yes and no

[viscid swift]

hit is accuracy and Avi is Aviation

[soft raft]

HIT basically rolls against EVA and AVI is Plane damage

There's a dedicated AA stat for well, AA

[lyric night]

Ooh gotcha, forgot they said backline and not just BB

[elfin hollow]

Which CB has the highest DPS?

[candid meteor]

does clearing mode decrease the amount of fleets that spawn?

[sweet delta]

in some maps yes

[worldly pewter]

should be guam
not sure on this

[strong tartan]

Kronshtadt iirc

[whole crypt]

Guam and Kronshtadt about the same, may depend on what you want to use this for

[haughty dust]

should I flip-flop around the Bofors or 40mm between any of these characters.

[neon finch]

is it possible to beat lv 5 Abyssal Zone with sr ships at all

1 attempt?

pure UR gear?

[soft raft]

Pure UR gear is not required
In fact most of the time that's not really a good idea and prohibitively expensive

[neon finch]

+13?

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[soft raft]

no real need for +13 either

[remote yarrow]

We literally told you that you were screwing yourself by using factions fleets

So now you get why

[worldly pewter]

who is ur third BB ?

[neon finch]

uni + rich + lyon

[soft raft]

Lyon?

[remote yarrow]

Well that sounds like an awful main line for attempting a C5 Abyssal

[neon finch]

for now my 2nd strongest bb.....

[soft raft]

Bullshit

Do you not even have Pennsylvania

[neon finch]

Breast + Triomphant + jeanne d arc

[remote yarrow]

[neon finch]

scraped

[neon finch]

stick 110 uni full gear in there

[soft raft]

Just post your dock in a thread man

[remote yarrow]

He has already done twice

[neon finch]

yes

[remote yarrow]

He doesn't wanna use actual fleets, that's it

[neon finch]

(UNI?)

[haughty dust]

for which weapon? Does this help?

[soft raft]

so basically a less servere version of that guy

[remote yarrow]

Uni doesn't make a faction fleet not be a bad fleet

[haughty dust]

@worldly pewter

[plain saffron]

Uni is for mob fleet not boss fleet

[worldly pewter]

this is his dock #1257463932315111547 message

[soft raft]

STAAG > Haze for backliners
American Quad Bofors for regular vanguards
Roomba for the AA Carry

[haughty dust]

?? not sure what the difference is or how to tell. Just give me a a few minutes and I’ll create a new thread.

[neon finch]

~~does that mean its nolonger a fraction fleet if UNI is in there ~~

[remote yarrow]

Well let me rephrase it then, putting Unicorn in a bad fleet doesn't magically make it good

[worldly pewter]

read the main stats on the guns

it should be self explanatory

[neon finch]

it takes time to build other good ships up to a good level

[tame jungle]

You can keep running your faction fleet man, that’s fine, just don’t go complaining that you’re not clearing anything significant lol

[neon finch]

[worldly pewter]

progression takes time
this shouldn't be something new

[remote yarrow]

Then get working on it instead of working on a IB Faction fleet like you were doing
Didn't cheeky already tell you which ships to level?

[worldly pewter]

he wants to one shot with a quarter of a fleet

[neon finch]

UNI rn (laffy 2 just mlb)

[haughty dust]

This isn’t my main game and I play a lot of games with information overload so I can’t keep track of everything. I do have other things to do with my day.

Operation Siren

[worldly pewter]

if u can't keep up i think u might want to consider dropping some then
what i asked u to do is pretty simple
something is related to the ship stats and how the gear affects these by just seeing the apparent numbers on the gear description

[soft raft]

Gearing isnt as simple as just looking at numbers though
That's oversimplifying things way too much

[worldly pewter]

i want him to notice the difference between the staag and haze and the rest of the AA guns

it should be apparent enough

[soft raft]

if they know how important HIT stat is for Backliners yes
Otherwise, kinda doubt it

[brisk shard]

is HIT stat mean accuracy stat?

[soft raft]

Essentially yes

[brisk shard]

thanks, i see it is a lot important too

[worldly pewter]

yes because it is about hit or complete miss
the backline take a long time to prepare to launch their attack

[brisk shard]

can you guide me what ship should i build for fleet 2? im preparing to retrofit and leveling some ships

[soft raft]

Post your dock in a thread

[ivory crown]

i hate to be that guy but can u guys help me clear my depot its clutter asf, can u tell me what elites to decon

[brisk shard]

how to create a thread?

[soft raft]

/equip 3rd link

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[soft raft]

This

[ivory crown]

i followed the safe to scrap guide and these are all the residuals, just double checking to be sure if theres other stuff to get rid of

[brisk shard]

can you guide me what ship should i

[sweet merlin]

How to pull up this menu?

[hollow gust]

Search Azur lane dev menu on YouTube

[remote yarrow]

#bot-spam /logmode

[brisk shard]

click hide in top left

[remote yarrow]

You clearly didn't follow it all the way, you got Purple quad mags laying around and some other stuff you can scrap check again

[ivory crown]

i cracked some boxes after ye

[remote yarrow]

And for the ones you got, if you got over 6 or something scrap some if your depot is too cluttered

If not just throw in into random ships to save space

Equipped gear doesn't use space

[ivory crown]

kk gotcha

for gear progression, ik i gotta work on gear lab and i was advised to work towards wyvern

but there are some pieces that are in the +13 guide that arent in the gear lab prio, and i assume there should be some gear that are purely obtained from unboxing

i guess i just wanna ask what should i focus on gear progression? is it really just do opsci dailies and slowly accumulate enough mats to craft the high prio gears in the spreadsheet? is there no reason to crack elite or super rare boxes anymore?

[remote yarrow]

Most "transitional" gear is fine up to W12 or so, after that you can start crafting some from research and/or gearlab