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[inland shoal]

Washy: CA BB
Avrora: BB CA
Lexy: CA BB
Amagi: CA SS
Sandy: CA CV
Lil E: DD BB
Am I forgetting a server?: Nope

[viscid swift]

Nope

Also Amagi is CA SS this month

[tawdry topaz]

when are we getting PR7?

[whole crypt]

what is this vacation you speak of

[crimson glacier]

probably within 4 weeks

[plain saffron]

Is that a collab

[vale spindle]

personal thing with the fam

[crimson glacier]

🤔

[agile sky]

if im auto farming for a gold drop ship that i dont have and i finally get them, will the game pause the auto run for the new ship or will it just keep auto-ing?

[jaunty vault]

it should wait for you to lock that ship

unless you've got auto lock enabled

then idk what happens

[sinful escarp]

iirc it just stops till you click on something

[inland shoal]

Yeah it will pause. But as cooper said no idea what happens with auto lock

[vale spindle]

If u got auto lock enabled it doesnt pause and goes straight through pretty sure

had that happen to me with some event ships

[nocturne shoal]

does perseus appear in the medal of honor store?

[vale spindle]

personally its not a big deal if you do continue cause dupes = bulin save

or if its event farming you probably want points as well

[grizzled sundial]

How do i buy this fair wind cruiser ticket ? It can't be bought by gem , and being from unsupported country i can only buy gem and not the ticket itself :/

[vale spindle]

if yo-topup doesnt work then im not sure you can do anything

you can try contacting customer support but you might be out of luck

[sterile jolt]

Funpay

[vale spindle]

and obviously anything third party payment wise is not officially supported by yostar so do it at your own risk

[sinful elk]

is bismarck usable? I want to buy her for the IB tech in the medal shop

[jaunty vault]

usable is pretty vague a word

shes usable but also useless

[sinful elk]

[fresh tangle]

She’s fine if you’re just in 12-1 grinding but as I was told nothing to write home about

[tulip thorn]

Is this the stage to farm?

[shell willow]

avrora has CA BB as well

[steady beacon]

Such poetry

[jaunty vault]

yes, read first pin for more info

[tulip thorn]

Oh thankss

[sinful elk]

Well in term of using her to farm exp for fdg

[grizzled sundial]

That hard stage , i assume enemy is lv 70 ?

[jaunty vault]

sure, you can use her

[zinc turret]

its my first opsi reset , what should i buy ?

[grizzled sundial]

This month medal shop is DD and BB, which DD :/

[jaunty vault]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#voucher

[jaunty vault]

you can click on the icon in shop to see options

[grizzled sundial]

Yukikaze z46 Le triomphant and Le Malin

[jaunty vault]

none of these are particularly worth investing early game

or mid/late game

[grizzled sundial]

Well , i dun have any Sakura DD aside from Suzutsuki

[jaunty vault]

[grizzled sundial]

BB selection is eh , not in need for another BB soon , got Nagato last month

[jaunty vault]

just save your medals then

or do whatever you want

[grizzled sundial]

Fox mine it is , bloody foxes

Oh right question , what is the Tech Point in the ship yard ? It accumulate for me but i don't know from where .

[cobalt rapids]

dont farm foxes if ure new

[inland shoal]

What server are you on?

[grizzled sundial]

Little enterprise

[cobalt rapids]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology#Tech_points

[inland shoal]

Thx

Btw you do have Hood right?

[grizzled sundial]

Well no ?

But i will think about building a Royal fleet now that i got another fleet slot .

[inland shoal]

Well then buy her

[wise knoll]

are these one time purchase only and will not refresh monthly?

[zinc turret]

did at hard event stage each boss count to this ?

[novel condor]

Should be ye, just the bosses tho

[zinc turret]

aint 3 of them are boss ?

[novel condor]

If u fully cleared it then yes

[frigid linden]

What ships should I buy in the Medal shop?

[fathom sable]

Twin 40mm bofors STAAG

[fathom sable]

Any good?

[pulsar hornet]

What's your current Op Si fleet? Looking for inspiration for fleets

[novel condor]

Very good on Main fleet ships, like BBs

[worldly pewter]

depends on the rotation / what u have / what u want to do

[plain saffron]

One time each. Added more whenever devs feel like it

[plain saffron]

Tbh idk, test it

Raid doesn't count
This one idk

[zinc turret]

i need finish the cruiser pass asap to mlb my mogador

[normal crane]

Is prototype 406mm good for Alsace?

[pulsar hornet]

The twin He guns?

[normal crane]

Triple one, with AP

[pulsar hornet]

Are you facing a boss with Heavy armor right now? If so. Yes

[normal crane]

Not really, i never really pay attention to enemy type, i just unga bunga everything

I'm still at chap 12 rn, i can start chap 13 but I'm taking it easy rn

[inland shoal]

Tbh I doubt it since they're not actual fleets you encounter at a map

[normal crane]

Also how's Alvitr, is she good?

[inland shoal]

Meh

Like all the ships this event

[lament bay]

what arbiter is this month?

[tame jungle]

temperance (CL)

[lament bay]

aaah so light armor

[zinc turret]

yeah sadly it doesnt work lol

[plain saffron]

[lament bay]

whats the best light setup on shinano main fleet?

[tranquil saffron]

Which one should I use?

[whole crypt]

Depends™️

[tranquil saffron]

I'll just use the 406 mk-1 so my BBs are more synced

[plain saffron]

Depends on enemy still

Also in w14/15 you don't want them to sync

[steady beacon]

Anti-light single-target?

[lament bay]

yeah for this arbiter month

[worldly pewter]

this month arbiter is vulnerable to aurora's debuff

[zinc turret]

lol great

[lament bay]

damn still dont have her

[zinc turret]

another reason to upgrade aurora

[steady beacon]

HVARcat/Tenrai/converging TB of your choice (according to timing reqs)
I'm assuming you have someone better-suited for the Skyraider, else Shina can consider it
Note that July Temperance has 20s/20% shield, though, so a "normal" CV setup might have issues due to being too slow and wasting ordnance against the shield

[lament bay]

the shield expires after some seconds?

[steady beacon]

Procs every 20s for 5s max

Due to the spawn offset the procs are like 01:07, 00:47, 00:27, 00:07

[lament bay]

i see ill try change the timings by changing the convering torpedos; if the plane slot can equip a fighter, hvar cat should be prioritized? and skyrider on haku 4 slot dive bomber?

is 2nd tenrai worth using on haku over convering torpedo for her 3rd plane slot

[frank pulsar]

yea use rockets wherever possible, 2nd tenrai not worth over converging torp

[steady beacon]

Ye, assuming average physical hit rates, prio conv torps vs single-target (assuming, of course, you have proper slow/stop support)
HVARcat is best anti-light fighter, although in OpSi the +13 Bf109G is better than +10 HVARcat if the extra Siren Killer boost counts
Skyraider in Haku's slot 2

[plain saffron]

Ngl i forgot about ops dmg bonus

[inland shoal]

Well unless you already hit 20% anyway

[tranquil saffron]

How useful is the twin 57mm AA on w15?

[cobalt rapids]

very

[quick mason]

Hey quick question: how many fleets should I build to be ready to do any content? 3 (1xHE, 1xAP, 1xCV)?

[atomic abyss]

you will need 3 fleets for operation siren at minimum

so a mob fleet, a BB fleet, a CV fleet

for campaign, you just need 2

[steady beacon]

Ye

[quick mason]

So damage type doesnt matter?

[atomic abyss]

you change your weapon according to the enemy

so example: light armoured enemies will require your BBs to use mk6 or mk7, and your CVs to use HVARs

[light trail]

anyone worth using gold bulins on?

[atomic abyss]

med armoured enemies will need you to use champy guns on your BBs, and regular planes for your CVs

[atomic abyss]

kawakaze i suppose

[frank pulsar]

shangri-la and maybe hornet ii and kawakaze, otherwise not rly
most are just tech/collection

[light trail]

i have plenty good ships rn, imo. guess i'll sit on em then until there's a resounding "damn this ship is fire"

[quick mason]

BB and CV fleets are fully BBs and CVs or do I need to have a BB in the CV fleet?

[atomic abyss]

fully yes

[quick mason]

Thanks a lot

[agile sky]

Do subs make a big difference or nah?

[atomic abyss]

the idea is to maximise the buffs from the frontline

[atomic abyss]

far from mandatory, although very valuable when pushing late game content to compensate for lack of bis gear

[spring bolt]

you will end up changing fleets regularly to fight new stuffs, new chapters, new meta
different bosses have different patterns and mechanisms, you basically need to adjust everything to suit new contents

[frank pulsar]

you dont need them anywhere, but they help a lot mainly in w14 and w15

[quick mason]

True, I just want 3 solid fleets for now that I can concentrate on for BIS gear and after I have enough gear I can concentrate on different shipfus for fleet optimization

[unreal bloom]

What armor type is the arbiter this month?

[inland shoal]

light

[silver lintel]

My anti light game sux

[split halo]

hi, should i replace long island with shouhou

[unreal bloom]

Thx

[atomic abyss]

you could
or you could just use unicorn

[split halo]

already have unicorn

[atomic abyss]

then you don't need a 2nd healer

use something like saratoga

[frank pulsar]

is it better to do solo mode or coalition for the event

ive been spamming coalition cuz i didnt realise theres a solo mode

[steady beacon]

Since I'm a nutjob who wants everyone at 120+ morale at all times, I just do solo tbh
Also avoids the nightmare I remember from Frostfall of having to select and gear 3 full training fleets

You hit the milestones trivially anyway, so not like it's a process that really needs any optimisation

[frank pulsar]

i just been using 1:1 fleets though

a ur bb and a ur vanguard dps

ill stick to coalition ig

is sandy or laffii better for my uss cv fleet? sirius is in ijn fleet

[atomic abyss]

laff

[inland shoal]

Aurora is also an option

[sweet merlin]

Where should i put Alsace

[inland shoal]

Is that new Bisko or old?

[atomic abyss]

replace hood with fdg
alsace goes where fdg was
assuming that's bis zwei

[strong tartan]

it's zwei

[exotic wren]

you guys should get your eyesights checked, that's a rainbow

[hallow iron]

Lol this is the third month we get sr bb in lil enterprise

Should I still get bismark or tirpitz if I already have enough tech for fdg?

I'm still lacking tech for anchorage too if that helps in advicing

[smoky palm]

can muse versions of ships equip unique augments?

aka can le malin muse equip le malins unique augment?

[atomic abyss]

considering you'll need more IB tech for agir and hinden later...

[exotic wren]

Pretty sure they can't

[smoky palm]

okie dokes, just wanted to me sure

[frank pulsar]

no, aurora is already in the fleet, im using kear

hence why im using sandy/laffii as second pick

[hallow iron]

True, feels like the recent back to back ib event have made it so easy to gain ib tech for me

But I should still get one of bismark or tirpitz for Agir and hinden ig

Which one is more useful btw?

[atomic abyss]

bismarck
she is an IB buffer after all

as for anchorage
US tech is much easier to come by

[wintry obsidian]

Spee Challenge is a joke compared to the Washington/Dakota one

[atomic abyss]

[south sequoia]

Okay

[hallow iron]

Wow how does brest deals more dmg than mog?

[brisk shard]

is independence retrofit better than enterprise?

[atomic abyss]

different uses

[wintry obsidian]

Brest does very well against medium armor (i have Guam's gun on her primary slot and Pompeo gun on second . Both are +13)

[uncut oar]

They're mainly used for diff things

[south sequoia]

Probably to mogador dying earlier in the fight/mogador unable to frequently proc her skill due to burn conditions

[atomic abyss]

indep for mob, enty for boss

[south sequoia]

And maybe gear is also a factor

[wintry obsidian]

Mogador survived the fight with 3/4 of her health left

[south sequoia]

Then its probably gear and lack of 3rd skill proc

[brisk shard]

what are their roles?

[atomic abyss]

^

[brisk shard]

thanks

[uncut oar]

damn Ender's fast on the draw today

[south sequoia]

Independence is mainly a fast loader and a buffer meanwhile enterprise is purely damage
Not to discount indeps own damage however, but enterprise is just bigger

[worldly pewter]

how is ur sakura tech ?

[brisk shard]

thanks

unicorn is for mob and healing right?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[hallow iron]

800 in iron blood and 150 in sakura

[brisk shard]

so is fast loader = mob?

[atomic abyss]

usually yes

[worldly pewter]

tosa

[brisk shard]

thanks

[uncut oar]

Also consider that indep being a fast loader desyncs her from unicorn second airstrike, you want multiple wave clears in mob

[hallow iron]

Is she sakura? Also is she useful?

[atomic abyss]

tosa is sakura

she and amagi are both powercrept massively tho

[brisk shard]

hope tosa get some buff

[atomic abyss]

wouldn't matter

[worldly pewter]

aside from hood is there a useful ship in there ?

[atomic abyss]

not when owari and izumo exist

[brisk shard]

tosa's barrage so insane

[flint wyvern]

Would it be more beneficial if I’m leveling agir to farm 12-4 or the event?

[brisk shard]

are they better than tosa too?

[south sequoia]

tirpitz/bismarck for kms tech
tosa/nagato for ijn tech

[atomic abyss]

they are literally the best gold rarity BBs, so yes

[brisk shard]

is baltimore good? i just got her

[south sequoia]

washington used to be better than hood, but since aug that has not been the case

[atomic abyss]

has her uses buffing US CVs
but people normally use sirius or aurora or kazagumo for CV comps

[uncut oar]

Izumo aug also was a fairly big buff for izumo wasn't it

[wary timber]

Anyone here got U-31 and what are her skills

[atomic abyss]

it was a fairly big buff

[south sequoia]

very big

[atomic abyss]

tho on actually relevant content she still falls behind nelson kai so

[south sequoia]

100% barrage
extra damage amplifier
Removed extra chance for burn

[uncut oar]

I can't really see tosa creeping izumo just because of later aug then yeah bc tosa herself's worse than base izumo

[atomic abyss]

tosa is better than base izumo

[south sequoia]

What

Is nelsons damage that high that even with izumo aug she still falls behind her?

[atomic abyss]

let me find you what suchi said

[hallow iron]

Oo I just realize I already fulfill the requirement for Agir.. And just need another 100 for hinden... I think i can Safely pick tosa then

60 sakura fleet tech is pretty gud

[south sequoia]

Oh damn

Thats sad

guess that extra damage amp didnt do much for her

I thought izumos barrage numbers were big prior, guess not

[atomic abyss]

why are y'all so at that

even amagi is better than base izumo

[wary timber]

Izumo. The "copied homework but worse" ship lol

[uncut oar]

I mean, I can see it for amagi considering amagi has utility

[wintry obsidian]

I just use Musashi as mob flagship on W15. Nothing beats that insane aimed barrage of hers. I'd use Soyuz but it frustrates me to no end her barrage procs on reload rather than on shot

[atomic abyss]

that's not why musashi is good on w15 tho

[atomic abyss]

and tosa has more damage than amagi lol

[south sequoia]

Watch devs put out an augment for monarch that makes her better than izumo and izumo is pushed to the side again

[wintry obsidian]

Honestly, Musashi is so good you can use her in any fight

[atomic abyss]

i wouldn't put it past them...

[south sequoia]

Its most certainly possible unless they fuck up her augment

I wouldnt be surprised

Looks at them "buffing" her blue skill in fs5

[uncut oar]

How strong is tosa barrage, then? Always have been under the impression that it's bad

[atomic abyss]

about 30-50% better than amagi's iirc?

[uncut oar]

Interesting

[atomic abyss]

it also helps that tosa can ignore shields

[uncut oar]

Maybe my tosa just has skill issue and misses torps because it never felt impactful from when I was using her

[atomic abyss]

amagi also has torps in her barrage so

[south sequoia]

tosa can also off flag

iirc she was the first ever off flag barrage bb

[forest stratus]

im new here🙏 can anyone pls tell me how to expand or remove cats on cattery.

[uncut oar]

I'm looking it up rn because I'm really curious

[steady beacon]

Total shot power 2942.4 after accounting for coefficient
For context, Soyuz's barrage has like 1800 total shot power

[south sequoia]

feed the weak to the strong

[smoky palm]

anyone else an Prinz Rup enjoyer?

[steady beacon]

But of course, conditionally activated and damage spread over a gigantic area rather than properly concentrated

[south sequoia]

um

#al-general

^^

[forest stratus]

thank you so much

[south sequoia]

No off topic gifs in gph please

thank you

[wary timber]

Should I actually attempt to finish this mission after I get Agir?

[south sequoia]

You should

Actually, why havent you finished a pr1 ship first before agir?

[forest stratus]

where do i ask for team comps, here?

[wary timber]

Cuz I built Georgia before this was a thing I think

[elfin hollow]

Make thread post dock

[south sequoia]

Its important to finish those because its one of the sources that gives the most amount of protocore for shop

[worldly pewter]

if u feed the same named cat to themselves they get skill level exp too so try to investigate which is better than which in order to feed the bad one into the good/better one

[uncut oar]

I'm clearly underestimating Tosa but just how good is the hitrate on that? Also, relatedly, does Soyuz barrage involve more than just the giant iceberg?

[steady beacon]

It's one central giant iceberg and six more giant icebergs in a hexagon around the centre

[uncut oar]

... is it just unfortunate timestop timing or am I blind? I've never seen the other 6

Maybe I should take her into PvP just to see it since timestop isn't a thing there

[forest stratus]

any recommended team comps? pls pls pls

[steady beacon]

Hitrate on single target? Awful, of course
Since it's a naturally centred, unaimed barrage
Its usefulness is in mob scenarios where the damage can go meaningfully over an area

[uncut oar]

Yeah, I mean. I was using Tosa in mob and she still felt underwhelming. I'm going to chalk it up to probably Unikai stealing credit or something.

[steady beacon]

It's just very fast and difficult to see
https://pasokau.com/wp-content/uploads/skllgif/突き抜け、氷嵐を破る霜鉾.gif
Try it slowed down

[worldly pewter]

where is mogador ?

[steady beacon]

Actually that's not even slowed down is it

[cloud fractal]

Is Minneapolis any good?

[forest stratus]

whos mogador

[worldly pewter]

looks like it is

[uncut oar]

Yeah, that helps a lot. Thank you. Every time I've seen it, it doesn't register as two separate waves of icebergs just the one massive one.

[jaunty vault]

decentish mob tank

[undone plover]

Give this guide a read when u can
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

Do you have any gold bulins left?

[jaunty vault]

may or may not be worth using depending on your options

[worldly pewter]

mogador was the free / shop / missions UR DD in the cn anni event

[kindred dust]

How much does z46 with mog gun lag behind ur dds against med and heavy

[forest stratus]

1 left

[undone plover]

Can you mlb bearn? Did u get her crystals?

[forest stratus]

maybe i havent started playing

[atomic abyss]

very far behind

[forest stratus]

im out of the currency to buy it

[atomic abyss]

esp when ships like shimakaze exist

[south sequoia]

Er, do beginners have any reliable and consistent way to get meta fragments outside of weekly missions and cruise

[kindred dust]

How much does mog gun help z46 then, its a large upgrade ovee the gear lab 128 but idk by how much, esp as it helps her ap self buff

[worldly pewter]

did u at least buy the rainbow gun ?

[balmy matrix]

I'm currently researching FdG, should I skip Anchorage and get hinden instead? I'm only have sanrui and monarch for my pr ship cuz of my stupidity

[atomic abyss]

no
you can't even dev 30 hinden quickly

anchorage is gold rarity so fewer BPs needed
and her BPs can be bought with coins

[kindred dust]

Hindy is acquired taste, only for most based of players smh my head

[atomic abyss]

[kindred dust]

You must get more ib boats first 😄

[forest stratus]

i bought the SR char i believe

[balmy matrix]

Already can research it

[atomic abyss]

it doesn't matter

[kindred dust]

Hindy needs dev25 to be useful at least, so u need a lot of bps which take time to get

[atomic abyss]

hindy needs dev 30*

[kindred dust]

Oh

[atomic abyss]

only the tanks can get away with dev 25

[south sequoia]

She absolutely needs 30 if you want her to be actually viable over other dps options

[balmy matrix]

I'm neglecting pr research too much so

[worldly pewter]

do the meta routing

[wintry obsidian]

Hindy is a damage monster but her survivability isn't as impressive. Hindy, Mogador, Plymouth and Unzen are all fantastic damage dealers

[kindred dust]

Where do you suggest she be used then

[frank pulsar]

hindy not squishy though, shes still arnd roon level of tanky iirc

[atomic abyss]

hinden and mog are about the same level of tankiness...

which is to say, under port kai

[kindred dust]

Wat

rare retro tankier than ur?

[balmy matrix]

Oh no I didn't know it. What is it?

[sterile jolt]

Ply tankier then hindy, unzen~ hindy

[atomic abyss]

what do you expect, portland is a purpose built tank lol
hinden is not

[frank pulsar]

just because it ur doesnt mean it tanky
portland is tankier than unzen as well

[south sequoia]

You gotta balance out all that damage somehow

[atomic abyss]

the tanky URs are your CBs

[calm rose]

wait isnt unzen slightly tankier than portland

[sterile jolt]

No

[south sequoia]

The only high dps ships that can take a good amount of beating is plymouth and sandy

[kindred dust]

Where is a good place to use hindy for semi/ endgame stuff

[undone plover]

Struggling to pick a Bb to go with ngl

But I think amagi is going to be the least painful

So your fleet should be amagi, unicorn, penny
Brennus, javelin, helena

Get to ch9 as soon as possible

Dont spread your gold bulins
Focus MLB one character at a time

Read the link I sent you before

[wintry obsidian]

Portland is a great starter for a reason. However, she's still a CA and CBs are fundamentally more effective at tanking

[atomic abyss]

opsi really

[worldly pewter]

finish fdg while doing that try to get enough for anchorage
if u didn't manage to do it in time start agir then anchorage
after that avp while trying to get enough sakura tech for haku and lastly marco
u can go back to do a ship from the pr3 for proto and the missions
after that go to pr5 then who knows how it will go after pr7

[sterile jolt]

Bossing

[kindred dust]

That's it?

[atomic abyss]

hinden isn't as high prio pick for late game maps because she lacks the AA prowess or the tankiness

[sterile jolt]

Yeah imo

[forest stratus]

got it man, thanks

[atomic abyss]

she can be the DPS for your late game map frontlines ofc

[forest stratus]

do you build 1 fleet or others too?

[south sequoia]

You can slot her in for w14

[kindred dust]

Yeah i noticed that, i use her anyways because waifu

[undone plover]

1 fleet until ch9
Then u can start levelling a second one

[sterile jolt]

But we already have better options for maps, so...

[calm rose]

huh i thought unzen is atleast portland tankiness. guess i stand corrected

[forest stratus]

okay, still on ch6 now

[kindred dust]

But it is annoying she cant do uh, the main content of the game

[wintry obsidian]

W15 is a special case. It's a plane hell that heavily favors those ships with great AA. Hence why Guam is the best CB for those stages and Sandy shines once again

[undone plover]

When u get to ch9 come here again and we will build you a second fleet

Dont forget to read sam’s guide
It has a lot of good information

[atomic abyss]

i mean she shines in metas and harbiters so

[south sequoia]

She can still do a good chunk of late/ end game content

[kindred dust]

Opsi, bossing dosent seem like shes useful for a lot

[south sequoia]

extra brute force is great

[atomic abyss]

end campaign needs tank and AA
she's neither so yeah

[kindred dust]

Aa buff soon mashallah🙏🙏

[sterile jolt]

Xddd

[atomic abyss]

[undone plover]

@forest stratus
Sry I goofed a bit and thought ur brennus was mlb

Put san Francisco main tank not brennus

[sterile jolt]

No way

[wintry obsidian]

harbiters aren't even all that hard to beat. One has 4 fleets in opsi for a reason

[south sequoia]

I dunno man I've been using hindenburg more lately over 4/5 of the cbs

It's not that hard to slot her in if you know whats behind stuff and the limits

[kindred dust]

Imo for the level of investment required she dosent seem to give that much more dmg

[atomic abyss]

[frank pulsar]

shes the highest dps vanguard atm

[kindred dust]

Maybe im not running 2 of her ur guns so thats why? I only have 1

[atomic abyss]

she is literally the highest dps frontline in the game
alongside unzen

[sterile jolt]

One of them

[kindred dust]

How far behind is 2nd and 3rd

[frank pulsar]

isnt she ahead of unzen?
on like med and light

[atomic abyss]

depends on enemy armour and battle length

[south sequoia]

Just do a random combination of two ur ca guns and watch her go to town

[sterile jolt]

Vs medium, but unzen torps destroy heavy armor

[south sequoia]

Hinden/Drake gun
2 Hinden
2 Drake
Drake Unzen

[kindred dust]

If its w14/15?

[sterile jolt]

W15 she literally dies faster

[jaunty vault]

unzen and hinden are both portland tankiness
unzen is a slightly tankier on boss fights
hinden is a lot tankier if AA gun equipped but no one uses AA gun on her

this is assuming no manjuu on port

[south sequoia]

w14 she can do great as a boss dps option
w15 she could probably be slotted in assuming you can have aa padded and covered to make up for the lack of aa gun on her

[frank pulsar]

if youre doing a 121 fleet you can prob slot her in fleet 2, otherwise i dont really see a spot for her in w15
(fleet 1 does first and third boss)

[kindred dust]

Ive been doing guam hindy shimanto for w15 mob, just barely surviving😭

[cobalt rapids]

no ure right

[calm rose]

i stand uncorrected

[kindred dust]

Mfw ship that requires among the most investment in game still needs handholding in endgame stuff😭

[frank pulsar]

youre right, hinden is 96% i alw thought she was 93%

[jaunty vault]

no im right

[south sequoia]

In SPECIFIC end game

stuff

[kindred dust]

Is hindy better for a boss or mob fleet in opsi

[cobalt rapids]

hi right

[atomic abyss]

better than trying to use kearsage in w14 lmao

[frank pulsar]

arnd the same as ply and stuff, the investment isnt that high

[south sequoia]

She can comfortably be slotted in like a lot of end game content

[frank pulsar]

it just take a long time

[kindred dust]

She needs dev30 for the extra mgm right?

[jaunty vault]

both

[kindred dust]

Does ply need handholding like hindy to make up for aa? I thought shes just drag and drop anywhere

[frank pulsar]

ply aa is decent, and yea you can drag and drop her anywhere pretty much

[cobalt rapids]

wdym handholding

if ure talking about w15 then hindy doesnt need handholding, but her roles that she fills in w15 are simply not that valued compared to the alternative options who provide more

[atomic abyss]

rather, her teammates need to compensate for the areas she doesn't cover

like AA
or tanking
or buffing
or AA

[eager mulch]

AA gun Hindenburg let’s go

[kindred dust]

What ender said

[cobalt rapids]

then unzen needs handholding aswell and every other dps only ship

[jaunty vault]

i can handhold w them

[kindred dust]

Same!!!!

[eager mulch]

handholding

[cobalt rapids]

[sterile jolt]

Well, at least unzen can be placed in w15, cuz preloads, gun and torp damage

[jaunty vault]

so basically dps

[kindred dust]

True but unzen and other dps boats require less investment😭

[cobalt rapids]

i mean thats a diff issue

[atomic abyss]

well hindy is permanent

[south sequoia]

Is investment that much of an issue when you'd want to finish everything in the first place

[cobalt rapids]

i thought we were talking about gear

[sterile jolt]

Investment in gear is equal imho

[stuck nexus]

heyoo, does anyone have the link to the beginner guide thing? like which units i need etc

i rmb there being one but cant find it

[atomic abyss]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[cobalt rapids]

no ? hindy has 1 extra gun slot which means more investment to reach her peak compared to unzen

[sterile jolt]

Gun slot, and 2 oxy torps xd

[cobalt rapids]

running oxytorps in w15

[south sequoia]

If you're at the point where you'd be developing hindenburg its questionable how you wouldn't have the materials to craft drake guns

[south sequoia]

Like a lot of the investment for her is things you should be doing in the first place, if you're in this super awkward position where you somehow don't that's more of a you issue than it is the ships

[sterile jolt]

What problem?

[crisp vine]

Hi so i end 10-4, and my question is, is there anything worth to farm from this chapters? Def too much oil rn

[cobalt rapids]

idk what this picture is trying to prove

[atomic abyss]

no one uses even a single oxy in unzen in any actually challenging content because she'll die

[sterile jolt]

Just equal in rainbow stuff

[sterile jolt]

Ofc

[atomic abyss]

this is you trying to flex if anything

[atomic abyss]

push to w11
there's about 20% more exp there
or even w12
where you can level up low level ships

[crisp vine]

I want say this is gameplay help not equipnebt flex btw

[crisp vine]

Problem is, its kinda hard rn doing 11w

[atomic abyss]

then go back to 9
get a second fleet and come back

[kindred dust]

Is it worth making 2nd drake gun?

[cobalt rapids]

equal in rainbow stuff..
hinden burg has an additional gun mount which means she will always need a dupe/sidegrade gun compared to unzen
which means 2x the plate cost to reach her peak

[kindred dust]

Whats the fumo for

[cobalt rapids]

can she perform good with other guns ? yes ofc, that wasnt my point tho

[south sequoia]

It is worth

[sterile jolt]

For boss stuff, and only

[kindred dust]

Wym

[cobalt rapids]

its for dmg when survability is not a concern

for gun/mixed gun ships

[kindred dust]

How much does fumo boost dmg

[eager mulch]

damage loss, dead ship

[sterile jolt]

Not a lot, but why you need to survive in boss fight

[stuck nexus]

how do i get commander exp fast? im stuck at lvl 38 i need 40

[cobalt rapids]

grind with full fleets

[half plover]

I forgot where this is used, could anyone help

[cobalt rapids]

in #pvp

[half plover]

ty

[stuck nexus]

grind what

[half plover]

your highest stage possible

[plain saffron]

full fleets, 6 ships

[cobalt rapids]

highest stage

[stuck nexus]

ic k

[plain saffron]

ouh

[stuck nexus]

so sortie?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[stuck nexus]

cans

XDXD

btws, i got 149 pulls, shld i save or pull

[sterile jolt]

Save

[stuck nexus]

how many?

and for what? gomen i havent plyed in soso long

[plain saffron]

at least 200

for any banner with good ship, mainly UR

[stuck nexus]

UR is the highest rarity?

[plain saffron]

or waifu that you really really want

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[stuck nexus]

what do u call the golden rarity?

[plain saffron]

Super Rare

[stuck nexus]

XDXD icic, cans, so i continue grinding till chap 9 for now? thats it? just pushhhhh to chap 9?

[plain saffron]

Normal, Rare, Elite, Super Rare ,Ultra Rare

push until you can't, if can't, go back 1 stage and farm there for a while

[stuck nexus]

why stage 1

[stuck nexus]

by logic shouldnt like, upgrade my fleet to progress or smth

[undone plover]

Go back one stage
Not to stage one

And yeah always upgrade the stuff u are using

For example If u fail stage 8 go back to 7 get more levels and then u can beat 8

[stuck nexus]

ohhhhhhh HAHAHAHA

[granite flume]

Which ships i could change in my op siren fleets? There's about one year i don't change anything

[stuck nexus]

question: is my fleet ok for me to grind with? its definitely blasting through stages but what about oil usage

[plain saffron]

ignore oil usage if you're progressing

[kindred dust]

Im curious, whose 2nd best torp boat after shima?

[plain saffron]

tbh i would replace eugen with portland. what LB is eugen

[cobalt rapids]

ull need a bb if u want smooth sailing in campaign, so drop akagi

[plain saffron]

if already Max limit break keep eugen

[granite flume]

You don't have anything else to switch for Akagi? She won't be that great without Kaga

[plain saffron]

that's akagi muse which is fine without kaga

[sterile jolt]

It's akagi U, no?

[atomic abyss]

unzen is the best
then shima
after that uhhh irrelevant tbh
maybe ibuki

[granite flume]

Ah yeah i forgot that. I'm becoming senile

[kindred dust]

How does ayaya stack up

[stuck nexus]

ill send in all my ships for yall to see

[atomic abyss]

aya has higher torp damage than buki
loses out sometimes because she lacks 2 preloads

[stuck nexus]

after this sortie

[cobalt rapids]

if its not broken dont fix it

[sterile jolt]

Noshiro maybe?

[atomic abyss]

noshi is a buffer so

[sterile jolt]

And tank for w14 xddd

[atomic abyss]

at least jinM might be worth entertaining

[sterile jolt]

Maybe yeah

[kindred dust]

Oh yeah how does noshiro mu compare to normal

Got her and am levelling her

[atomic abyss]

better at torp buffing, worse at tanking

[kindred dust]

Does that make her a better pick since there are way better tanks now?

[eager mulch]

no tech is killer

[sterile jolt]

In some cases better* need to synergy all torps with her buffs

[eager mulch]

memes only

[worldly pewter]

note that the UR banners use double the amount of cubes in comparison to the light construction

[kindred dust]

How is unzen the best

[stuck nexus]

heres my dock

[stuck nexus]

oh, yeah. xie xie:>

[atomic abyss]

what do you mean by how

her dps is literally the highest amongst the vanguards

[eager mulch]

How is she the best

[sterile jolt]

Xd

[kindred dust]

I know her skills help boost dmg a lot, but im trying to explain to some guy who insists that shima and ayaya are top 2😂

[stuck nexus]

@plain saffron @cobalt rapids @granite flume

[atomic abyss]

because torp stat alone doesn't tell the full picture

[kindred dust]

I know that too😂

[plain saffron]

you mean all event banner that's not CNY

[atomic abyss]

you have to look at torp efficiencies, which increase her effective torp damage significantly

[eager mulch]

hindenburg better vang dps anyways

[atomic abyss]

ayanami lacks the 2nd preload so she's washed to begin with

[sterile jolt]

Better survivability, better torp damage, better gun damage... How

[atomic abyss]

as mentioned^
unzen has the advantage of still doing decent damage even when her torps are on cd

[cobalt rapids]

grab penny from guild shop
penny enty unicorn - portland helena javu

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips and give this a read

[atomic abyss]

and yes it helps she's not paper thin

[finite crag]

by a marginal difference or what

[atomic abyss]

depends on the enemy and map lol

[sterile jolt]

By stars I think

[granite flume]

U could use Kazagumo to replace Eugen because you're using 3 CVs. But you would to raise her

[stuck nexus]

read it but too late, do u think i shld still go with the beginner one or just cotinue with this for now

[eager mulch]

beginner

[cobalt rapids]

use the fleet i posted
ull need a bb for campaign like i said

[eager mulch]

anything below w14 is beginner

[stuck nexus]

kk

[sterile jolt]

Below harbiter one shotting, ok ok

[stuck nexus]

so, build beginner fleet and grind

[granite flume]

Try to get Izumo with her aug core. She's good nowadays and a easy PR1 ship to get. Good unit if you're needing BBs

[stuck nexus]

ill be back after i done that:D

[eager mulch]

I wouldn’t expect a beginner to oneshot harbiter but maybe renhex can do it

[stuck nexus]

wth is aug core what is PR1

[cobalt rapids]

izumo is not easy to get for beginners

[atomic abyss]

nelson better to get

[cobalt rapids]

and shes better anyway

[sterile jolt]

Depends

[stuck nexus]

btw what do i do when i get too many unicorn copies, do i just use them for other ships or is there some other purpose

[sterile jolt]

Izumo with her aug might be better option for bossing

[eager mulch]

🏅

[granite flume]

After Izumo augcore no way Nelson is better. Only easier to get

[atomic abyss]

nope

[frank pulsar]

augment is an extra piece of equipment youre able to equip on a ship at max limit break thats mostly a stat stick, pr1 is research series 1

[granite flume]

that augment is too strong

[atomic abyss]

sushi came back to tell us nelson kai is outright better lol
which take with some salt

the augment hides a few things

[stuck nexus]

medals? okaaa

[stuck nexus]

how do i get these augments

[atomic abyss]

number 1
izumo's reload is horrendous
number 2
her barrage damage is piddly - it's not focused

she's better on mob? maybe
nelson's is focused tho

[cobalt rapids]

for bossing izumo mby but ull be alr transitioning to urs by that point rather than marginal upgrades over nelson

[frank pulsar]

use augment cores and coin to craft, but it not important for newbie unless it unique one like hood's

[stuck nexus]

so which ships augment core should i get?

btw i see scepter, hunting bow which shld i craft

[frank pulsar]

your backline first i guess? but like i said earlier it not as important as other equip like your main gun or plane

[granite flume]

Saratoga augment

She's easy to get as well

[atomic abyss]

augments are low prio for new player
hood augment is priority in any case

[tranquil saffron]

Should I +11 my second wyvern or +12 a wyvern or tenrai?

[atomic abyss]

/plus13

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/+13_Priority.jpeg

[frank pulsar]

scepter always for cv
for bb make sword, for your vanguard you use mainly sword as well
though torp focused ship prefer hammer

[stuck nexus]

scepter cans

[atomic abyss]

neither

[stuck nexus]

whats a cv

[atomic abyss]

+13 your gold planes instead

[tranquil saffron]

[atomic abyss]

never ever +11/+12 something
either you bring it to +13 or leave it at 10

[stuck nexus]

is unicorn a cv xd

[frank pulsar]

upgrading wyvern past +10 not worth at all, it like your lowest prio for gold plates
focus on gold gear first before ur gear

[atomic abyss]

you can +13 3 gold planes for the price of +13 a wyvern/tenrai

[frank pulsar]

cvl, but the difference dont matter unless a stage requires a specific hull type

[cobalt rapids]

unicorn is a cvl which is the same as cv for most purposes besides a few minor differences and hard mode requirements

[tranquil saffron]

I know but I've been given different information multiple times

[stuck nexus]

instead of pensylvania can i use any other unit, or is she the best

[frank pulsar]

just follow this for +13 prio

[atomic abyss]

she is the best for a new player given her rarity

[stuck nexus]

if she is then welp ok ill use her

[frank pulsar]

shes the best option for early-mid game until youre able to grab hood or nelson

[cobalt rapids]

if some1 told u to spread ur plates across multiple equips they were missinforming u either intentionally or not

[stuck nexus]

where do i get hood

[frank pulsar]

rookie missions, medal shop

[stuck nexus]

so my akagi, is worthless?

[frank pulsar]

yes
fox sisters were bad since day 1 of the game

[atomic abyss]

yes

[eager mulch]

no

[stuck nexus]

xd ok thxx

[eager mulch]

tech is tech

[atomic abyss]

well yes it is not worth to use
no they were not bad since day 1

[cobalt rapids]

for now, u can slot her back in once u can expand to 2 fleets

[atomic abyss]

they were made irrelevant - 2 different things

[cobalt rapids]

its akagi muse

[eager mulch]

irredeemable garbage

[cobalt rapids]

[steady beacon]

Oops

[eager mulch]

[tranquil saffron]

What about in this scenario?
Should I +12 it or wait until I have enough to +13?

[frank pulsar]

if its a variation you should point it out
akagi muse is actually usable unlike akagi

[steady beacon]

Quickly hides the +12 Ply gun, +11 Drake gun, +12 Spearfish, +11 Mk 7

[atomic abyss]

well, if i were you, i wouldn't touch it
unless you want to recalculate her timings again for syncing purposes

[frank pulsar]

just +12 it if you need it, but make sure you finish the +13 if you do

[eager mulch]

+13 flapjack, bricked

[atomic abyss]

at least say it was a +11 mk6...

[balmy matrix]

Speaking of this is it also include below +10 as well?

[cobalt rapids]

u can safely +10 any gear and when ure new u dont rly have a choice but to +3/+6 gear since u dont have higher plates

[split umbra]

How do i craft this? I have 60 of the blueprint, how many is needed to craft 1?

[atomic abyss]

50

[tame jungle]

25*

[atomic abyss]

wait no
yeah 25

[reef flume]

25

[tame jungle]

50 is UR lol

[undone plover]

Go to depot > craft

[sharp socket]

should i +13 the white shell, black shell or some other aux like gold catapult

[frank pulsar]

purple plate is abundant so theres less/no need to be too careful with how you spend it
you can safely +10 anything you use

[split umbra]

Oh okay so i need 75 to craft 3 total , thats all that is required?

[tame jungle]

you go to gear menu > craft and it should be there
if you bought with protocore you should go to depot > selector prints then select the right one

[undone plover]

Yeah but u can do 1 at a time so you should be able to make 2 right now

[split umbra]

Hmm where ? I dont see it

[atomic abyss]

search for it
scroll down

it may not appear at the top

[frank pulsar]

imho prio bb auxes like shell and hsfcr since bb easier to max

[tranquil saffron]

Is there a limit to how many strongholds will appear on the map?

[frank pulsar]

3

[atomic abyss]

3 at any one time on a map

[undone plover]

Wait it is 3?

[tranquil saffron]

So I have to do them

[eternal basalt]

2 roday, 3 on map, all queue

[atomic abyss]

you can wait till the end

[reef flume]

Gimme some projects

[atomic abyss]

the remaining 3 will queue if the others are not done

[steady beacon]

If it makes you feel any better
It WAS a +11 Mk 6
That was Gear Labbed for parts into a Mk 7
And then raised to +11 because too poor to afford +13 in one go

[tranquil saffron]

So they'll just spawn once you've finished the others?

[atomic abyss]

yes

[icy mountain]

Now ill be able to get my 2nd wyvern, what stuff should i prioritize next in the gear lab?

[tranquil saffron]

Alright thanks

[icy mountain]

Should i craft 1 sextuple in preparation for w13?

[split umbra]

Okay got it! I was blind haha..

[icy mountain]

since the ships in my fleets are almost lvl120s

kinda attempting to do w13

[frank pulsar]

twin 100 kai probably

[reef flume]

What stuff is better to prioritize in gear lab guys? Like, is it better to prioritize main fleet gears like BBs guns and planes (if this, which of these?), or Vanguard fleet gears (if these, of what type of ship?)

[frank pulsar]

w13 difficulty is overrated, its easily doable with just hellcats, quad bofors and roombas

[icy mountain]

oh

[frank pulsar]

the only place you need sexy is prob w15 and maybe w13 hard

[cobalt rapids]

for electric components ull want 2-3 wyvers = 3 junkers > 3 ryuusei in depot if u didnt already got em > 1-3 flaps > 2 457
UR selectors should first be spent on 2-3 wyverns > 1-2 mk 7 > 1-2 100kais
UR test reports is 2 457 > w.e
gold test reports is a few flaps >= 155kai > w.e
rest consult /gearlab for non mats conflicts

[icy mountain]

also what kind of gun is this?

[frank pulsar]

dd gun, it one of the best dd gun

[finite crag]

when do you use g7e and bidders or are they interchangeable

[icy mountain]

okay then

[frank pulsar]

bidders is standard pick, g7e is if you have high enough rld investment to use it
youll be fine with bidders for all content though

[reef flume]

Cuz the first gear I was thinking to focus on was the NJ gun, but considering I need a lot of gears, I got this doubt (not like I can craft SR/UR gears asap)

[finite crag]

nice thanks

[icy mountain]

also, arent wyverns usually used on mob cv ships?

[eager mulch]

yes

mob and campaign

[icy mountain]

guess im pretty much set with indy and uni

[sharp socket]

should i make triple 155 kais or triple 152 mk25 for BB secondary

[tranquil saffron]

I need help with BB fleet
Current is NJ flagship and UvH+FDG
Now I have Alsace what should I change?

[cobalt rapids]

nj gun isnt highest prio

[eager mulch]

neither are good as bb secondary except 155 kai only in W14

[reef flume]

Rn I got the 406 mk6 gun on her. If that's not highest prio, what is it then? You'd do me a great favor by helping me

[cobalt rapids]

i listed the prios by the highest consumed materials, for other materials consult / gearlab

[eager mulch]

mk6 -> mk7 is not a big enough jump to justify prio

[reef flume]

I'd say remove UvH and put Alsace

[reef flume]

Alright

[stuck nexus]

is this ok guys?

[undone plover]

Yes but in campaign u dont rly use converging TB
Even CV like enty/haku/nano should use wyvern if u have em

Implacable is probably the only CV that can use converging TB in campaign

[stuck nexus]

the grind, BEGINS

[sharp socket]

ECTL recommends triple 152 mk25 as best BB secondary which is why i asked

[cobalt rapids]

not worth crafting

[frank pulsar]

they still rec that?
it too expensive to bother with, just use a triple 155
might as well rec ply gun atp

[stuck nexus]

WIAT WAIT SHLD I replace pensyl with hood? i have enuf medals for one

[frank pulsar]

yes, and max limit break her

[fluid shore]

im missing the meta battle button from the left pull out menu. bug?

[stuck nexus]

the rest will stay the same? or is there also an upgrade to any of them

[reef flume]

I'd say 155mm 3rd anni gun is better even tho it's a bit slower

[sharp socket]

i could buy it with protocore

[frank pulsar]

the rest stays the same, work on your retro though
uni > portland > javelin > helena

[reef flume]

Depends on what ship is equipped in tho

[stuck nexus]

cans

[cobalt rapids]

do this

[sharp socket]

yeah im making triple 155s

[cobalt rapids]

just open sakura boxes for em

[sharp socket]

gold ones only drop from t4/5

[reef flume]

I use the 152mm on Bismarck (og) tbh cuz of her skill with the secondary gun.

[split umbra]

How many of these each do i need? & How long does it take to farm a rainbow equipment?

[sharp socket]

i just got 2 from 10 boxes, thats all i need

[reef flume]

What website is that?

[split umbra]

The samheart guide

[reef flume]

Alright thx

[cobalt rapids]

need ? 0
but ull prob want 2-4 155kais
128 skc is very cheap so just craft as needed
flap ull want like 2-4 aswell but not highest prio

[split umbra]

Oh okay got it

[eager mulch]

i hate ectl

[cobalt rapids]

and it takes like 2 months -3 months to get a rainbow gear depending on ur rng excluding one time loggers

[reef flume]

Speaking of planes, which Torpedo Bombers/Dive Bombers are better to equip on AvP?

[eager mulch]

tenrai, ju4d

[reef flume]

Tenrai is UR iirc. What abt SR?

[tame jungle]

none really, just use sb2c helldiver (purple)

[eager mulch]

helldiver

[frank pulsar]

next best is purple helldiver

[reef flume]

I don't ask abt fighters cuz I have the IB plane that shoots rockets

[reef flume]

Luckily I got that. Thx

[split umbra]

Oh alright, so i got 11 of the UR gear design plans. Which gear recommended to get 1st?

[frank pulsar]

thats only bis for med and light (if you lack hvar)
youll still use bomb fighters for heavy

[eager mulch]

[split umbra]

Okay! so in total i need 2 of that ?

[eager mulch]

fw190a6/ryuusei gamer

[eager mulch]

you need 0 but 2 are nice to have

[split umbra]

Haha okay, thanks! my gears are currently in a mess

[sharp socket]

is this good for anything

[vale apex]

do i mlb shinano

[tame jungle]

nothing you gotta worry about rn

[sharp socket]

what does it do

[frank pulsar]

no its a complete waste of mats

theres 0 use cases for it, just use a normal aa gun

[silk helm]

Is this good for poverty

[frank pulsar]

yes, but upgrade the stuff to +10

[silk helm]

okay ty

[vale apex]

can i give shinano enty gear

[frank pulsar]

depends, nano gearing is more complicated than enty

[vale apex]

who does nano replace sara enty indep volga uni?

[frank pulsar]

safe loadout for campaign would be bomb fighter + helldiver + a parallel torp bomber

[frank pulsar]

where are you using her? she can replace any dmg cv youre using

[vale apex]

idk w13?

[eager mulch]

flapjack, tenrai, wyvern

[frank pulsar]

slot her in boss with enty and a bb then

[vale apex]

alright

[frank pulsar]

you can prob kill before aa become a problem

[stuck nexus]

is sortying my latest stage really the best way to get exp? im getting little to nothing, still stuck at 35

[silk helm]

r u talking about commander level xp?

[stuck nexus]

yes

[vale apex]

am i supposed to level ships up in 12-4 even if i have w13 stages unlocked btw

[frank pulsar]

use full fleets and farm hardest stage you can yea

[eager mulch]

or spend 5 dollar

[wanton pecan]

Why is there an akashi paw at top left

[stuck nexus]

gahhhh,

[stuck nexus]

?????? isnt it normal

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki akashi quest

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[wanton pecan]

You're doing akashi quest lol

[cobalt rapids]

im not

[eager mulch]

im not

[tame jungle]

im not

[plain saffron]

you're not not

[stuck nexus]

wha that

[late flame]

i'll finish scam cat quest if she gets an amazing retrofit

[plain saffron]

it's there by default

[stuck nexus]

mgs whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[silk helm]

/wiki akashi quest

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Akashi/Questline

[plain saffron]

only goes away after you done. so it's there not meaning you're doing it

[stuck nexus]

ic, ill find where it is and complete it then

i do not rmb tapping her 30 times

[plain saffron]

it's there by default

you did not start it yet

[stuck nexus]

oh so i need to start it?

[jaunty vault]

yes

[plain saffron]

yeah if you want

[undone plover]

Some ppl recommend u dont finish the quest
U will never use her anywhere
So she is just a -1 to dock space and she will “dilute” the light pool since she will get added to the perma light pool

[plain saffron]

it's safe to ignore though, probablt better even

[stuck nexus]

okk, imma just keep the paw then

[vale apex]

what ship now after shinano

[stuck nexus]

whens the next ur coming

[undone plover]

Finish shinano
Either Mog or hold bulins/spec core for future events

[vale apex]

okay

[plain saffron]

new UR most likely september
rerun could be anytime

[stuck nexus]

woah, les go cans

[vale apex]

is kron not worth mlbing

[plain saffron]

she is but you already "halfway" mog. better to finish one first
1 MLB > multiple LB1/2

[vale apex]

right

[undone plover]

Also with anchor/agir/brest
She is really not needed

[wary timber]

So for those thinking about using the new magnetic torp. I got this set and another quad launcher up to +10 dosent seem to be fast reloading once u reach this point. It's damage is a little more than the regular one u can build

[tame jungle]

and the homing is better

[inland shoal]

Yes we already knew it is exactly the same as normal quad mag except a bit more dmg and slightly larger homing range

[undone plover]

Well no one claimed it was faster
That info was available in the datamine

[wary timber]

Ahh

[wanton pecan]

Well its called improved

[uncut blaze]

worth lvling ships on current event?

[wispy pendant]

It’s the same reload

[cobalt rapids]

golds are average, purples are purples
worth depends on u
they got good tech

[atomic abyss]

i think they mean if it's worth to grind levels with the event

[jaunty vault]

as in grinding event stages

[cobalt rapids]

grind event if u farming for points but dip asap once u got ur milestones

[wanton pecan]

Can I just use w13 fleet into w14?

[atomic abyss]

absolutely not

[echo vector]

Anybody know additional interaction with new illustrious's skin ? I only found the rock paper scissor but i'm sure there's more interaction.

[uncut blaze]

does it cost mood as well? was planning to grind levels for 3 fleets (ships lvls)

[atomic abyss]

w14 doesn't have nearly as many planes
it instead has BB fires and suicide boats (w10/11 redux)
it also has subs on 14-3/4
so you are required to have asw

[cobalt rapids]

tap the manjuu under the table to change poses minigame

[wanton pecan]

I was gonna hyperinvest into aa fleet

[cobalt rapids]

ye it costs morale but if ure doing coalitions its 🤏 since 1 fleet only fights once

[atomic abyss]

you will need aa fleet for w15 no worries

[echo vector]

Oooh, thanks for the tip

[haughty dust]

So I just unlocked Plymouth however, there are a few ships that I have started developing, but never finished towards unlocking them. Would you guys suggest just finishing them up before I moved onto another ship?

I am working on unlocking Roon now. I started but never finished last time. I was working on her.

[echo vector]

Finish up UR priority ships for easier life

[atomic abyss]

finish up your PR4 ships and fdg

[uncut blaze]

like one battle, xp are divided into 3 fleets?

[cobalt rapids]

each fleet get xp in the battle they fought in

[uncut blaze]

i see, ight thx ~

[haughty dust]

FDG is already done and the only PR4 left to unlock is Marco Polo. I’m still working on finishing up the development of Agir and Haku. Which I can do that on the side I’m specifically asking about unlocking ships.

[atomic abyss]

doesn't really matter then
if anything unlocking shd be done on the side

[haughty dust]

shd?

[atomic abyss]

should

[wary hawk]

should

[atomic abyss]

this month's harbiter is light armour
so bring your mk7s and HVARs

[haughty dust]

You’ll have to forgive me. I don’t know every single acronym that people use these days.

[atomic abyss]

the gear matters more than the ships themselves

[left cedar]

mk7

[wary hawk]

That one was for spica

[left cedar]

HVAR

ops, my bad so

[silk helm]

is it hard to get this gun

[finite crag]

in the w15 fleet from the w15 commands why are the torp bombers in the support fleet not maxed out

[atomic abyss]

a fair bit of gearlab mats

[left cedar]

not exactly ...

[atomic abyss]

because only fighters come out in support fleet

[wary hawk]

It is if you're an opsi hater :)

[finite crag]

so it doesnt matter

[atomic abyss]

yes

[finite crag]

cool thanks

[silk helm]

ty (im an opsi lover now)

[left cedar]

if u already play the game and get the basiscs, its quite simple
start to be harder if u dosnt do ur daillys and gather materials

inb4, people getting baited by rarity and trying to beat Heavy and Med with Mk7 ...

[heavy gyro]

i adjusted my fleet to this: (first image) it was like this before: (second one)

[left cedar]

that seens ... strange at best
why chaser ?
23 as tank ... no portland, Charles ? ... why Wash instead of Penny or Nelson ?

[lament bay]

is w15 also plane heavy?

[heavy gyro]

well uh i like chaser, i have portland idk if i should user and i think i dont have penny nelson and charles?

[wary hawk]

Liking a ship is bis

[heavy gyro]

sorry

[wary hawk]

bis means best in slot, its a good thing

[left cedar]

carry Chaser all around its gona be ... problematic to dont say impossible, but me saying that "dont do that" its funny

[silk helm]

so for opsi is it bettery to spend ap doing the dailies or just farming c5

[tame jungle]

do daily first then c5

[silk helm]

okie

[tame jungle]

also make sure you get rid of all the hidden zones and siren coords in time

[left cedar]

do ur daillys, do all hiddens, abyss, strongs them u do C5 ...

C5 farm its for last days of Op.Si

[heavy gyro]

heres all my ships for you to analyze

[worldly pewter]

what if i tell u have i have 0 of them ?

[heavy gyro]

oh i do have charles

[plain saffron]

mk6 and bfg

[atomic abyss]

mk6s and bf109gs then

[worldly pewter]

check the rookie missions

[left cedar]

u can buy Blue (300) in guild shop ? them go buy Penny

and do something like

Penny/Uni/Chaser (u like her, but she inst in anyway recommended)
Portland/helena/z23

get some time to learn about gears, gud ships with bad gears are shitty as any bad ship ...

[heavy gyro]

just to be sure penny is pennsylvania right

[keen sable]

Just use colorado

5 L1 ships also sucks

[heavy gyro]

different suggestions

[left cedar]

well, start to level gud ships early its better than push with bad/"not gud" ships and make ur expenses higher unecessary
specially when its about spend gold bullins in early

imagine a GPH Hivemind ... we still have different opinions between many of us

[heavy gyro]

thanks everyone

[steady beacon]

As always, many ways to (new method, courtesy of Thorin) drown a cat

[split umbra]

So is there any point to do the event if got 60k point alrdy?

[signal pollen]

Is it worth sortie Portland with Indy?

[steady beacon]

Not unless you want those rainbow boxes for some odd reason
They will drop a crane anyway, so not really worth tbh
If you want to use the event bc the format is conducive for sub affection farming that's an idea
But otherwise, grinding elsewhere will give you better returns

[split umbra]

What is sub affection farming?

[steady beacon]

Literally as it sounds, increasing affection for your subs
Just because it can be tedious and inconsistent trying to raise affection for subs in "normal" maps

That said, I think I did all my subs in normal maps, so it's possible, just time-consuming and inefficient

[split umbra]

Oh okay got it sorry i though is another method of farming

[steady beacon]

All good

Obviously, you only need to consider it if you have subs you want/need to raise affection for
Otherwise feel free to ignore the whole thing

[split umbra]

Okay I'm trying to get FDG , so been using my oils to grind, guess i will ignore subs for now , not enuff oil to spend

[brisk shard]

if i cancel an auto repeat fight, will i lost the oil expected to be lost after the whole fight done? For example: 5 fights in auto

[elfin hollow]

How valuable are crystal fragments?

[cobalt rapids]

atm not, but income is low

[undone plover]

Not very valuable since u cant buy much with them but somewhat rare

[stone sluice]

Is there a thing in OS to not spend points on the recon thing?

[shell willow]

i think the 5000 oil cost siren data logger is exactly for that, or you can also wait some minutes and the cost will go down (like 30ish mins)

[inland shoal]

What are crystal fragments?

[cobalt rapids]

the meta currency

[forest palm]

it let's you buy Meta Skill XP Books, and Meta Crystals

[meager gyro]

[finite crag]

what are the xf5f for

[cobalt rapids]

skyrockets? for w15 support fleet

[finite crag]

so just for aa basically?

[cobalt rapids]

yep

[inland shoal]

Can you fill the gaps? If you do something amazing may happen (or not)

[inland shoal]

Ah it has a name other than meta currency?

[meager gyro]

since i got some more useable ships now, can someone make me an updated opsi fleet

[silk helm]

do you have a 🧵 bro?

[meager gyro]

?

[finite crag]

do w15 support fleet skill level matter

[stone sluice]

It worked

[forest palm]

nope, nothing matters other than the AVI Stat, and the Fighter

[shell willow]

[finite crag]

thank god

[forest palm]

oh, right slot efficiency, and plane count

though really just run 3 Illustrious would be fine lol

[finite crag]

huh

[forest palm]

Illustrious, Illustrious Muse, Little Illustrious

[finite crag]

bet

[forest palm]

I'd rather say take the above support fleet as an example

[finite crag]

yea im using implac, idom and illustrious

just didnt want to waste time leveling skills if possible

[forest palm]

das understandable

[meager gyro]

what do i buy here?

[zinc turret]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/shop_priority#voucher

[idle rapids]

sandy

[novel dock]

Opsi Fleet Suggestions

[static dome]

Just got beaver, Does it replaced any generic defensive aux for cruiser (toolbox, rudder, VH)?

[viscid swift]

you would stack it with rudder on your boss tank usually

[static dome]

oh, okay

[hallow iron]

Is there a place where I can farm for hyuuga copy?

[static dome]

no, she's build only

[hallow iron]

Hmm is it worth using elite bullin to get her max

[hallow iron]

Thanks I forgot that exist

[cobalt rapids]

lb all ships u use

[undone plover]

Using elite bulins on ships like her is fine
If u are doing that for a specific purpose

[hallow iron]

I don't really use her, just want the fleet tech

[cobalt rapids]

shes bb rld so good to lvl when ure tech farming or prgrinding and no other ships for use

[keen sable]

Up to you. Obviously she isn't that rare or you wouldn't even have a base.

[wispy cosmos]

what's everyone's monthly medal income looking like these days

[crimson glacier]

i can proudly say that i havent been keeping track, sorry

[forest palm]

ya...it's not something I track either

[zinc turret]

i get like more than 300 medal i guess

i just retire all rare and elite i got

[inland shoal]

Wildly differs depending on how many builds I do tbh

[whole crypt]

yeh sounds like something that'd go up/down quite a bit depending on that month's builds

and how much/where they farm

[forest palm]

also how much you grind within the month can vastly change that number too

[candid meteor]

i didnt get sirius in mdel shop 💀

[whole crypt]

also affected by whether the event drop SR is a META

[forest palm]

it's honestly a better question to ask newer to mid range players that need the medals the most

[whole crypt]

well thing is "monthly medal income" isn't really a thing, I usually spend about 1k each month and the stock's still going up so all I can say is "more than 1k"

[silk helm]

Is this gun worth crafting? Didn't see it on the guide

[shell kite]

Dunno the exact number, but at least 780 (Based on how much i spent monthly)

[whole crypt]

it's just a slight improvement, I guess you can do it for Musashi when you actually have enough materials

[forest palm]

for me I buy SP Cores, Dorm Food, and Red T3 Books, don't really need bulins, especially purple, to the point I burn most purples

[whole crypt]

all I can say is if you're short on purple materials it's not something you need to bother with

[silk helm]

ty~ i was thinking abt crafting it for izumo actually (no musashi 😦

[whole crypt]

I buy food, prints all books except blue, plates for the heck of it

actually I buy T3 blues too, just not T2

[forest palm]

can't be bother with Blues period

[inland shoal]

I only buy T2 reds

And idk why I buy sp cores tbh

[whole crypt]

I thought of buying spec cores but didn't in the end, not with stock in 6 digits

I only skip blue T2s because it's the only books I have that's in 4 digits

[inland shoal]

I wouldn't

[viscid swift]

I'm just stockpiling for future proofing in case double UR events becomes a more regular thing than it already is

[forest palm]

that's my mentality a bit, conversely if I also want to build a second copy

building second copies is in fact a luxury, but I like to think it's nice not having your ship stuck with Meta builds for 2 months

[silk sphinx]

I don't think that is really a risk considering we won't have to deal with reruns, but hey it's a valuable currency so I'm just increasing it for fun

[heavy anvil]

Which would be a better use if my UR prints, my 1st Mk7 or my second wyvern?

[forest palm]

2nd Wyvern

[viscid swift]

2nd wyvern

[heavy anvil]

ty

[silk sphinx]

fyi mk7 is a minor upgrade over mk6, around 6-9% at +10

[forest palm]

wouldn't really say minor

[silk sphinx]

i did get three so yep, still waiting to +13 the third

[inland shoal]

Without +13 I'd say it is relatively minor
Ofc also more FP so that's another ~3% or sth

[silk sphinx]

also, you be a chemist? Grad student in chem here

[whole crypt]

depends I guess, for players who're not already sitting on a lot of spare spec cores then having a bigger buffer is nice yeh

[silk sphinx]

I really wouldn't worry about it if you were there for the first runs

[viscid swift]

depends on what you consider large but I'm "only" sitting on 45k right now

[meager gyro]

can someone help me update my opsi fleet?

[inland shoal]

I mean in the end you're sitting on a pile of medals and a pile of proto so doesn't rly matter ig

[pulsar heart]

is bremerton worth building?

[viscid swift]

not particularly

[whole crypt]

medal shop spec cores literally 1%

[viscid swift]

the way I see it with specialized cores is this, if demand suddenly goes up for both you can at least in theory farm more medals, you can't do the same with specialized cores because monthly cap

[silk sphinx]

you can reuse the previous thread that was made for that

[meager gyro]

what the fuck

[silk sphinx]

behold, the power of people who have been playing since spec cores were added into the game

[silk helm]

do you have all ships 😮

[meager gyro]

which one

[faint kite]

Please help needed for OpSi fleetbuilding.

[uncut willow]

What’s the first research ship I should build. I’ve already built all the EU ones

[atomic abyss]

FdG should be the first

[uncut willow]

Nice, she’s hot and I already started her