gameplay-help

[remote yarrow]

From what I saw in L14 it mostly kills your vanguard

[soft raft]

more towards vanguard
esp with her chains blocking them from firing

[little plinth]

is there a resource for proto core priority? I think there used to be one but i can't find it now

[atomic abyss]

/protocore

[odd root]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/images/equip_misc/Prototype_Core_Guide.jpeg

[atomic abyss]

Quite the opposite
She deletes and stuns your frontline instead

[stark quiver]

nice

so about an anti light hakunano setup, if i dont have hellcats nor skyraiders, what my next best options and how to time

[sweet delta]

Bf109g and tenrai

[stark quiver]

wil there be a setup i can use or i have to time myself

[sweet delta]

Depends on oaths and ships

[atomic abyss]

Depends on which slow-er you are using and your levels and oaths

Also may depend on gear availability

[stark quiver]

haku,nano,implac oath all lv 125 with one ijn vg ship

[atomic abyss]

Oathed, but are they all 200 aff?

[stark quiver]

oh shit no oath

[atomic abyss]

Ah, see these are the issues

[stark quiver]

i might oath them all in the future

[sweet delta]

Quite easy manipulation on renhex, same works for no oaths

[cerulean stag]

Anyone know when approximately the anniversary celebration will start?

[atomic abyss]

EN Anni is 16 August so...

[cerulean stag]

😎

[atomic abyss]

It's around that date

[cerulean stag]

Thank you

[dense epoch]

which permanent UR should i get first?

[remote yarrow]

Nano

But don't actively pull for her please

[soft raft]

[remote yarrow]

Consider her as a bonus after using 400 cubes on other banners and don't pull on permanent ones

[dense epoch]

ah yes don't worry just curious who to exchange in the future

currently have 110 cubes so i think im doing good

[worn flame]

Why is the gameplay completely different on PC then on mobile?

[remote yarrow]

It isn't tho

[wind hazel]

azur lane crosswave

[soft raft]

Bro playing Crosswave 💀

[remote yarrow]

Yeah I think you are talking about crosswave that is a completely different game

If you wanna play Azur Lane on PC download an Emulator

[atomic abyss]

AL doesn't have an official PC port tho

[stark quiver]

cross wave is completely dead and trash, if u dont have 2 or more hours i suggest refunding it and getting your 40 dollars back

[atomic abyss]

You might be thinking of Crosswave, which is an entirely different game from a different dev

[stark quiver]

does it even get updates anymore

[sweet delta]

#al-general

[worn flame]

Because right now I see art that looks like gacha life

[atomic abyss]

[soft raft]

The fuck are you looking at

[atomic abyss]

Clearly you aren't even on the same game then

[wind hazel]

Girls Lane

[worn flame]

It says the name and the UI looks all the same it just the characters look very simple

[stark quiver]

send screen shot

[atomic abyss]

I mean

When in battle
Only the chibis appear
Sooooo

[remote yarrow]

It's either cross wave or a rip off

[sweet delta]

why is my wichitam details pinned

[remote yarrow]

Ask Ender

[atomic abyss]

I didn't pin it

[remote yarrow]

Oh it was Cleo?

[atomic abyss]

At least I don't remember pinning it

Should be Cleo ye

[silk helm]

uhm is emdem worth pulling for?

[remote yarrow]

She's a decent CL dps but probably not

[viscid swift]

She's collection and tech mainly

[soft raft]

she's been powercrept in the DPS department but aye she's at least CL FP Tech

[remote yarrow]

Cope to get her from the free pulls you will get

[inland rain]

When is the AD-1 Skyraider used because I keep looking at recommended fleet comps and its never there even tho the samheart +13 prio guide calls it the best dive bomber

[eager mulch]

Single target light/med armor boss

[silk helm]

okok i do need tech and i think she's probs better than some of the ships that I have

[sweet delta]

Are you looking at the wrong recommended fleet comps?

[plain saffron]

Because plane gear is situational

[worn flame]

The first one is why I got azur and the second one is what I see

[viscid swift]

Bear in mind we have a new event right after the upcoming rerun

[soft raft]

You didnt read enough

[stark quiver]

thats azur lane, you have ur starter as secretary and l2d

[plain saffron]

That's just new main ui, the rest is same

[viscid swift]

They're the same game

[atomic abyss]

The one on the left in Shylily's vid is the old UI

[eager mulch]

first is old UI, second is new UI

[soft raft]

oh you saw a add that was recorded before the UI change

[remote yarrow]

Oooh the starter DD ships have kinda L2D sprites also

[soft raft]

that too lol

[plain saffron]

Cursed l2d

[atomic abyss]

Shitty ones but yes

[eager mulch]

37940 gems

[plain saffron]

And yukikaze and akashi

[worn flame]

So how do I get a better graphics or l2d?

[inland rain]

Well i did read this but how can I know what armor type the boss is?

[remote yarrow]

Sent by devs, saw that stream she didn't whale

[soft raft]

either you ask here or generalize off of the hulltype

[stone sluice]

37k gems

[atomic abyss]

You buy with gems, which are the premium currency
L2D skins cost about 30 dollars each lol

[stark quiver]

go to settings and go back to old UI or spend money for ship skin

[plain saffron]

Buy skins

You can switch to old main UI in settings

[worn flame]

Can you guide me?

[remote yarrow]

But don't buy skins if you are gonna be F2P

[heavy crag]

am i wrong, or the game is having connection issue? i can't get through login screen

[atomic abyss]

No issue with the game currently

[plain saffron]

Top right, setting icon
Go to option
Scroll to bottom find something like "use new main UI"

[inland rain]

Oh oke thanks

[viscid swift]

checking this site https://azurlane.nagami.moe/nodes

[eager mulch]

is that updated?

[atomic abyss]

Ask the green sara simp

[eager mulch]

who

[plain saffron]

For opsi bosses you can disable fleet lock and go in to see
Other than opsi, is the enemy is shipgirl, usually it's same as playable counterpart
If not see hulltype, like dd usually light armor etc

[elfin hollow]

What are some best support CV for w13 (ik is unicorn but what else)

[worn flame]

I see it thank you

[plain saffron]

It's updated but i use wrong setting and the names in CN

[soft raft]

depends on who you have
just post your dock in a thread

[heavy crag]

so is there any way to fix this, other than trying to restart the game? I'm on another emulator and watching yt at the same time, neither had issue with internet

[plain saffron]

Restart your internet

[viscid swift]

You mean mobbing?
Independence and Saratoga retro

[plain saffron]

Yes i know youtube works fine, just do it

[atomic abyss]

Could just be your emulator being a baka so
Close the emulator
Reconnect etc

[elfin hollow]

Yes

[remote yarrow]

In any case, welcome to the game, you might wanna give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips any further questions feel free to ask them in this chat

[heavy crag]

ic ic

[plain saffron]

That just how internet works, sometimes you can't connect to specific ip

Until you reset/restart your wifi or mobile data

[remote yarrow]

he deleted the message I was responding to

[remote yarrow]

@worn flame

[elfin hollow]

Ok

[worn flame]

Oh alr I read it

[mellow hornet]

what do i buy with gems again?

[stark quiver]

dockspace

[soft raft]

3rd dorm spot and 2nd floor dorm if you grind alot
Otherwise it's full send with dockspace

[mellow hornet]

i just used all my gems to buy cubes

[stark quiver]

the fuck

[soft raft]

.........
Jesus christ

[remote yarrow]

Just why

[soft raft]

the gem to cube ratio is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad man

[plain saffron]

Classic buy first ask later

[mellow hornet]

what? it was only like around 1500~ gems

[remote yarrow]

"only"

[plain saffron]

Free gems are limited
That's all you gonna get from one time

[remote yarrow]

My dude that's over 1/4 of your total guaranteed gem income as a F2P

[viscid swift]

that's literally more than 1/3 of the number of gems you're guaranteed as a FP

[soft raft]

[plain saffron]

The rest is yearly

[mellow hornet]

its a joke lol

[soft raft]

well that wasnt funny at all

[plain saffron]

[eager mulch]

joking not allowed in gph

[elfin hollow]

Where to get main fleet ships of iries or vicha

[plain saffron]

Joke!!! In my gph??!!!! :madge:

[soft raft]

If you want to shitpost, there are better places to do it than here

[viscid swift]

go troll in #al-general

[remote yarrow]

Haha funny joke I like trolling, go to #al-general to do that

[eager mulch]

time to shitpost in ectl gph

[plain saffron]

I don't remember if there's any that drops, i think all are gacha or medal shops

[soft raft]

mainly perma pools or research
you can look at their individual wiki pages for more details

[elfin hollow]

/wiki

[odd root]

term is a required argument.

[sweet delta]

#bot-spam

[elfin hollow]

Uhh / wiki iris right?

[soft raft]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Vichya_Dominion
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Iris_Libre

[elfin hollow]

Thank ya

[silent latch]

montpelier or london

[sweet delta]

For what

[silent latch]

campaign

[sweet delta]

Do you need either of them? What are your fleets and ships?

[eager mulch]

neither

can’t give a clear answer without context

[soft raft]

They aren't even the same hulltype as well

[sweet delta]

hull types matter for normal campaign? good ships are good

[plain saffron]

AL CN is traditional chinese or the other one?

Nvm qooapp removed it

[earnest flare]

how does the quickswap gear work? Do you have a loadout with a random weapon on it to clear loadouts to switch loadouts quicker?

[remote yarrow]

I don't think I fully understand what you are asking

[earnest flare]

how can you use loadouts the best basically

because you can’t equip things on a loadout that are equipped by other ships

[remote yarrow]

Yeah you gotta have them on depot to quickswap between loadouts

[plain saffron]

Is there anything interesting this patch

[viscid swift]

nope

just Rondo rerun

[remote yarrow]

And atleast I use it to change loadouts for different content faster, example with my Haku;
Top is anti light, mid is anti heavy and bottom is what I'm using for W14

Or that's what most ppl use it for I guess

[earnest flare]

Ah I see. So you can’t really use it to change loadouts from 1 chara to another unless you have another full set

[remote yarrow]

Not full set but available gear in depot or currently using by the same ship, like that Tenrai (rainbow plane) is the same in the 3 loadouts instead of being 3 different Tenrais

[eager mulch]

smh not a ryuusei enjoyer

[viscid swift]

aka someone not trapped by sunk cost fallacy

[eager mulch]

2040 gold plates too deep

[hot bobcat]

Yeah im gonna need help on redoing my fleets 1-4. Uhh, which ones do i pick for each?

[remote yarrow]

Wait you want 4 fleets or am I misunderstanding?

[hot bobcat]

Yeah, im starting to see the morale thing taking affect

[viscid swift]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips
for a start give that a read

you are not in a position yet to even consider fleets let alone 4

[old zodiac]

does yostar still give out free gems?

[viscid swift]

on occasion yes

[remote yarrow]

But rarely

[old zodiac]

i holding on that hope

[mellow hornet]

Is there anyway to speed through commander leve

[hot bobcat]

Ah, i see

[viscid swift]

Ise, Enterprise, Unicorn, Portland, Laffey, Helena

focus on getting that worked up for now

[soft raft]

grind grind grind with full fleets

[viscid swift]

also, don't use ships you can't limit break

[mellow hornet]

I'm only level 97 rn and I forgot the last time I saw it rise

[old zodiac]

i try to get them to 70 first before i mlb em so it's just on one go

[viscid swift]

fine if you're just leveling stuff but un advisable for someone still pushing campaign

[old zodiac]

yep mb

[hot bobcat]

Hm, i see

Yeah i got a lot to learn i see

[hot bobcat]

Well, that could take a while

[soft raft]

No?

[viscid swift]

what did you spend your guild tokens on...

[soft raft]

oh you're flat broke nvm

[zinc turret]

The coin

[wind hazel]

baited by limited ship?

[soft raft]

"Oh limited must mean it's good" copium /hj

[hot bobcat]

I dont remember😭

[viscid swift]

sub Helena with Cleveland for now

[hot bobcat]

Very well

[remote yarrow]

So I got over 1k Aux Gold plates and I plan on saving enough for +13ing the second AFCT but idk what do to with the other ones do I just +13 like 3 white shells or something else? I'm just really indecisive

[hot bobcat]

Well, it isnt exact but it'll do

[viscid swift]

white shells and a fire control radar would be the main ones

[viscid swift]

how many gold bullins, if any do you have right now?

anyway

start doing donations in the public guild and/or join a real guild

either way you need to get the additional 500 guild tokens needed for Unicorn

[loud scarab]

operation convergence hasnt been rerun yet right? should be a couple reruns after the one coming in next patch right?

[undone plover]

@remote yarrow
This is what renhex advised me a while back. I asked the same question #gameplay-help message

[viscid swift]

no, yes

[remote yarrow]

I see

[hot bobcat]

Hmm, none so far but i got a couple side missions that have one

[old zodiac]

can't wait for BZ i can finally geta good bb

[remote yarrow]

I guess one of the HPFCR can get set back cuz of the AFCT comming Soon ™️

[viscid swift]

you'll be waiting over a year for that still and she'll probably get powercrept by then

[undone plover]

I will say I am unlikely to +13 the black shells tho since I rarely use them and prefer CV overall

[old zodiac]

oh lol i thought that's this year rip

[soft raft]

there are already a good amount of good BBs in perma pools
Like Hood and FdG

[old zodiac]

i forgot it's 2 years

[viscid swift]

2 years plus

[old zodiac]

yeah i kinda want fdg too

[loud scarab]

ty, i didn't notice roma's event being in-between vanguard and operation convergence. i guess it will take a while for operation convergence then

[rare shoal]

does the oil cap applu to the boss fleet?

[viscid swift]

yes

[hot bobcat]

Hm, well that was kinda easy

Still missing 200

[sweet delta]

Better stop buying blue cat boxes then

[lean warren]

is worth to upgrade my champy guns to +13?

[viscid swift]

yes

[soft raft]

they're among the higher priority things to +13 yee

[inland rain]

Where could I find a meowofficer guide

[remote yarrow]

How's Ply's torp damage? Cuz I'm considering on upgrading her Quad mag to +13 but idk if it's worth it (already +13d Unzen's and Shima's)

[exotic wren]

Go do /cats in botspam

[sweet delta]

[lilac jacinth]

Wait, is the Wichita META light armor or med??? I been spamming AP on her and died miserably

[soft raft]

Light

[hot bobcat]

Yeah tbh i dont remember what i spent it on before when i was winging this solo lol

[lilac jacinth]

BRUHHHHHHHHH

[remote yarrow]

You probably did on the 2k Limited ship one

[sweet delta]

With this newfound knowledge, you will still die miserably. But at least you can do more damage while dying miserably.

[lilac jacinth]

? Cant 2 CBs do enough to survive?

[sweet delta]

Not consistently

[hot bobcat]

Oh well. At least i already got new jersey so ig it aint all too bad

[exotic wren]

Wait, she's harder than repM? or was it Menown

[hot bobcat]

I think???

[lilac jacinth]

This one definitely make ur vanguard go soft like paper

[remote yarrow]

Elp

[sweet delta]

A three star NJ is all too bad

And you'll probably want to save rainbow bulins for not NJ

[hot bobcat]

Hm, good point

[hot bobcat]

Hmmm what about that other legendary i have? (Or just wait till i get shimano)

[sweet delta]

Probably wait for Vanguard or the next new UR in September

[remote yarrow]

Again, read this #gameplay-help message

[sweet delta]

Just don't do anything and don't use the URs until you have 4 bulins

[hot bobcat]

Alright, but if its missouri yeahhhh im gonna have to let that advice void out my memory lol

[sweet delta]

If nobody reads that, must be because of the light mode

[remote yarrow]

And also most people don't know how to read

[hot bobcat]

Well ngl i did have a odd time understanding it all the way

[undone plover]

Well…. There is no point giving her a bad torpedo since she doesnt benefit from faster torps
So giving her a +13 quad mag makes sense unless u are running someone else on that fleet that prefers it
Not like having 3 +13 quad mags is hard tbh

[viscid swift]

What don't you understand about it

[remote yarrow]

Suchi is kinda right tho, take the screenshots in darkmode

[hot bobcat]

Well mainly it was the comparison parts (and also my brain kinda fried after suffering heat exhaustion)

[warm flax]

Is the new meta impossible in auto

[viscid swift]

To put it simply each star increases the damage output of a ship by a not insignificant amount

To the point where I'd consider using a common BB over a 0 LB new jersey

[hot bobcat]

Yikes. Sooo probably not the best idea to put all my items that are +5 and elite level on her huh?

Yeah i really got my work cut out for me

At least now im learning about this than trying to do it by myself

[remote yarrow]

As long you don't screw up by doing stuff you aren't sure of, from here on it's only improvement

Like spending gems on skins as a f2p

[opaque galleon]

What’s the michita kill comp? Do I forgo CV support vanguard for pure tank?

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message Tho suchi said some changes might need to be done for the second one

[hot bobcat]

Yeah good thing i didnt have any plans to do that when i started

Especially since im just a ww2 fiend, anime stuff still trying to get used to that part

[opaque galleon]

Roughly how many Helena and lucky E procs are needed?

[remote yarrow]

That's fine any further questions just ask them in here as long as they are gameplay related
And even if they may "sound dumb" to you ask them regardless

[sweet delta]

Nobody has tested those fleets because EN

and then we get maintenance

[opaque galleon]

Do you think it’s possible to fit Sirius at all?

[remote yarrow]

I was gonna say just a couple hours more, but maintenance is coming

[sweet delta]

Fitting Sirius means giving up fourth strike

[boreal oriole]

I've seen a JP player with Sirius in it

[sweet delta]

And if you give up fourth strike then you'll need three out of three Helena scans and Helena to survive for three scans

[hot bobcat]

Speaking of that umm.... am i the only one who made the mistakes of using the limitbreakers in my fleet than as free medals?

[opaque galleon]

Why does Sirius stop 4th strike?

[plain saffron]

No

[remote yarrow]

Wdym by that? Using dupes for limitbreaking is fine

[sweet delta]

The whole fleet being dead will stop the fourth strike

[boreal oriole]

https://youtu.be/yN_SunVI8yc?si=WdAD2S14deXp9b6T

[opaque galleon]

I see

[hot bobcat]

Cause thats all i was doing (and shoving all my commons to enhancing other ones)

[topaz smelt]

cant wait for all these fleets to be deprecated in a week

[remote yarrow]

And if you meant using bulins for limit break, that's their whole purpose in life

And using commons for enhancing is also fine

[hot bobcat]

I meant using the bulins in fleets or as free medal of honor points

[remote yarrow]

Yeah... that's a mistake

Bulins are literally not fit for using them in fights and should be used for limit break and not retire them

[sharp socket]

the purpose of bulin is solely to be eaten for limit break

side use is meming in pvp

[hot bobcat]

....boy do i feel a bit dum-dum lol

[forest palm]

at some point you end up burning them because you have no use for them

[paper lantern]

since i wanna dump some coins long-term, which of these (pr1 ships, georgia, or gascan) are even worth considering coining to fs5? i've coined all the meaningful ones (or i straight up haven't built them)

[opaque galleon]

Whoever has the best tech then

Gascogne has the coveted rld+2 and Georgia and izumo have FP+2

[paper lantern]

apparently i got gascan to 120 without coining her fs lmao

[remote yarrow]

Gasco if you need Vichya tech for Flandre or just go with the better tech

[paper lantern]

every ship i mentioned is at least at d30

[hot bobcat]

Wait, does azur lane ever do nerfs or buffs on ships? Or am i just overthinking it

[remote yarrow]

Oh, just go with whoever then

[paper lantern]

yeah reasonable enough

[keen sable]

A bulin is never going to be buffed usable. Where are you trying to go with this?

[opaque galleon]

Buffs only for the most part, direct buffs come in the form of fate sims and unique augments, indirect buffs from gear and new ships.

[paper lantern]

as far as pr5 goes, chkalov and ruppy don't add much if i've already got most of the notable rainbows, right? (afaik only missing vanguard, musashi, york2 of the gacha urs)

[hot bobcat]

Oh okay

[paper lantern]

wonder if i beeline pr6 now that i have plymmy brest harbin maxed

[remote yarrow]

They also get Unique Augments that can be considered "buffs"

[opaque galleon]

Bulin got a buff lmao

[remote yarrow]

Oh he already said that

[keen sable]

If you think that makes bulin usable i have a bridge to sell you

[remote yarrow]

Buffing x 0 is still 0

[soft raft]

The April fools joke reward is useless, who would've thought

[hot bobcat]

Alright. Cause i have seen how much nerfs do and... ugh it sucks

[remote yarrow]

I don't remember if they have ever nerfed a ship

[keen sable]

What are you even talking about?

[soft raft]

they dont really do nerfs in this game
unless your name is Fusou retrofit or Yamashiro retrofit but that's more of a downgrade than a nerf

[remote yarrow]

I think he's talking about other games

[forest palm]

They buffed a bunch of ships like 3 years back

[paper lantern]

wasn't mogador basically also a buff since she no longer suicides

[remote yarrow]

The only recent "buff" was to a badly implemented Ship

[faint jacinth]

wat time of maint?

[forest palm]

That was where Graf ended up being viable

[remote yarrow]

3 hours left

[faint jacinth]

damn

[soft raft]

Maint is in about 3 hours from now and will prob last at least 8

[faint jacinth]

who to get on rerun?

[soft raft]

doesnt really matter, they're mostly tech fodder at this point

[hot bobcat]

Hmmm so since im almost finished with the development of St. louis, should i finish that one up by making a pure eagle union fleet? (I need to get the whole xp grind thing for it)

[remote yarrow]

If you don't have many cubes probably nobody from Gacha, and just be satisfied with whatever you get on the free pulls
You can get Seydlitz from B3/D3 drop or event shop

[faint jacinth]

i see i guess i can get fleet tech for iron blood

[soft raft]

Are you at at least W9 yet?
If not, get there first before you pay much attention to research

[faint jacinth]

okok

[hot bobcat]

Im at W7 (mission 7) in the main campaign so far

[keen sable]

If you don't use portland helena and laffey then who are you using?

[sharp socket]

is there an IJN event expected to come soon or is it all IB

[soft raft]

You also dont need to do full faction fleets for research XP

They only take from either the backline or vanguard depending on their hulltype

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message he doesn't have guild coins for either Uni or Helena

[soft raft]

September is literally the yearly installment of Sakura Empire's Bizarre adventures

[faint jacinth]

oh ye what shop on this rerun?

[hot bobcat]

Chapayev, magador, and baltimore

[soft raft]

Nothing much besides the usual resources and etc
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Rondo_at_Rainbow's_End#Event_Shop

[sharp socket]

alright thats great i just need haku tech now

[remote yarrow]

Use what cheeky told you

[faint jacinth]

ohhh

[hot bobcat]

This is the temp i got for now

[gusty warren]

Should I be using AP on Wichita Meta?

[remote yarrow]

Swap Laffey and Portland around
Once you get both Uni and Helena this is what your fleet should look like

[atomic abyss]

No, HE
She's light armour

[gusty warren]

I thought the + on her class icon was to say she was armoured?

[atomic abyss]

There are exceptions

Wichita is one of them

[gusty warren]

mmk, lemme see what HE guns I have for NJ

[atomic abyss]

Just like how Taihou on 13-4 is heavy, when most CVs are med

[soft raft]

Not all ships of the same hulltype have the usual armor type

[gusty warren]

The best HE gun is only purple ain't it?

[wind hazel]

pretty sure that + is just to indicate that she's a CA, not CL

[soft raft]

406 mk6 is 2nd best overall HE BB gun

[atomic abyss]

There is the rainbow MK7 in gear lab
But it's a bit ex
So yeah use the MK6 otherwise

[soft raft]

That's alot of Hood guns
And man those two Monarch guns were so not worth it

Monarch gun has to be +13 to be (Marginally) better than 406 Mk6 but the price to +13 a single gun makes it rather prohibitively expensive

I'd rather craft a 406 Mk7 than +13 Monarch Gun

[gusty warren]

yeah that monarch gun was before I realised that it was trash

[soft raft]

Better than this at least

[gusty warren]

consider it disassembled

[hot bobcat]

This is gonna be a while

[remote yarrow]

I meant composition wise, not level

[faint jacinth]

oh ye guys how to know which weapon good to put on your ship? im too dumb for it sorry

[remote yarrow]

Btw since you are from Lil E server you should have an SR BB node in your medal shop, if so you should get Hood when possible

[soft raft]

/equip first link here

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Equipment Guides and Tier Lists

🔹 Equipment picture guide by samheart564#4031

🔹 Full details on equipment statistics
🔹 List of equipment safe to scrap by thebombzen#3287

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[hot bobcat]

Hm, alright. Doesn't help i been eyeballing the bismarck a lot (like i said, super ww2 fan and all)

[primal silo]

You can also use this
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
click a ship and see equips.

[soft raft]

^
This site is also a decent source for what's considered good in the context of campaign up to W13, just make sure to read the tiering guidelines and dont treat it as the end all be all source

[remote yarrow]

Sorry to tell you but Hood is better than Bismarck in general and you want a decent BB early on you can get her later if any future medal shop has a BB node

[plain saffron]

Anyone here play CN?

[faint jacinth]

oh ye which one here worth to retro?

[faint jacinth]

i see

[remote yarrow]

Portland, but where is your Uni?

[faint jacinth]

already did it

[remote yarrow]

Portland > Z23 > Nelson

[soft raft]

Nelson, Portland, Independence, and Z23

Of which you need to do Portland and Z23 (if you havent done Laffey or Jav's retrofits yet) for your rookie missions

[hot bobcat]

Very well than. I'll just pour one out for my history brain

[viscid swift]

what are you using currently?

[faint jacinth]

here my all ship

[remote yarrow]

Are you using both Uni and Shohou?

Can we take a look at your fleets themselves?

[viscid swift]

Independence and then Portland I guess

[sterile jolt]

Independense, Nelson, Saratoga, Portland, yat sen

[viscid swift]

though where exactly even are you in the main campaign right now

[sterile jolt]

Hiryuu

[soft raft]

what

[viscid swift]

Hiryuu serves no practical purpose with their line up

[sterile jolt]

For PvP only I mean

[faint jacinth]

w12 rn

[soft raft]

#pvp is that way and I highly doubt she'd be good there either

[sterile jolt]

If he don't have nothing better (he don't) its ok

[viscid swift]

definitely Independence then

you really should be focusing more on PR ships at this point though

[soft raft]

Damn that is scuffed af

[viscid swift]

and those fleets are garbage

[faint jacinth]

but hey i survived

[remote yarrow]

These are... interesting

[soft raft]

Warspite

[viscid swift]

yes, but there's many fleet building error here and future content will not allow you to get away with such mistakes

[faint jacinth]

thats why i said im dumb for stuff

[viscid swift]

well, now is the time to start learning

[echo axle]

Guys, my Musashi keeps going to low health And I have Volga on my team (Unicorn is in Boss Fleet with Zwei and my sushi is Lvl 107 in w12) any help?

[hot bobcat]

so cheeky on a scale of 1-10, what was my fleet 1 in before you recommended the changes?

[sterile jolt]

You can use Richelieu instead warspite... Kick out warspite of your mind for all game...

[silent latch]

what ship do i buy in medal of honor shop

[soft raft]

Enterprise > Hood > San Diego == ( or =< ? idk) Sirius > everyone else
Anyone I didnt specifically mention is basically tech fodder

[faint jacinth]

eww pvp

[sterile jolt]

Gold bullins man

[remote yarrow]

From a 0 to a 5 or 6, Unicorn it's just a really big powerhouse you don't wanna miss on

[viscid swift]

Mob: Amagi, Unicorn, Independence retro, Yuudachi, Laffey, Helena
Boss: Warspite, Shinano, Enterprise, Portland retro, Helena, San Diego

[faint jacinth]

[hot bobcat]

Alright

[viscid swift]

0
not using Unicorn or Perseus is an auto fail for me
everything else did not help at all though

pretty much everything not to do fleet building wise early game of AL you did

[faint jacinth]

@viscid swift oh ye im doing stuff on shipyard
rn doing hakuryuu. when she is built what fleet she gonna go?

[hot bobcat]

I see

[remote yarrow]

Welcome to GPH we are gonna be blunt but helpful at the same time

[viscid swift]

if you don't have the BPs to dev 30 her no where, she goes to the bench

[sterile jolt]

Everytime, anywhere)))

[viscid swift]

also I reccomend giving that a read
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research

[faint jacinth]

[hot bobcat]

@viscid swift soooo despite doing it by myself for a bit, was there anything i couldve done better if i were still doing it by myself?

[remote yarrow]

Probably not since fleet building is a learning curve

[viscid swift]

I'm not sure what exactly you're asking?
Me personally I would have first started looking around for a starter guide and get acquainted with the game a bit before committing too much to anything

[remote yarrow]

You would've eventually failed and might've looked for a guide or w/e on youtube which is bad

[hot bobcat]

Honestly my strat was just to get ships that were pure SR or UR tbh

[sterile jolt]

Not the best idea, cuz some of purple ships are better then SR

[remote yarrow]

And that would've eventually come bite your ass, since Unicorn is an Elite and there isn't any commonly available Healers other than Perseus at that point and she's a gacha unit

[sterile jolt]

Just for example

[viscid swift]

that's one of the rules of what not to do in AL
do not assume higher rarity automatically means better for anything

2 of the most relevant ships in the game are literally elites after all

[soft raft]

this goes for gear as well

[remote yarrow]

You probably would've thought this bad boy right here is a good gun, when it's probably the worst BB gun in the game

[sterile jolt]

Xd

Azur jokes are coming xddd

[sterile jolt]

Like uni and independence?

[viscid swift]

Unicorn and Helena

[remote yarrow]

I think he's talking about Uni and Helena

[sterile jolt]

Well, don't like Helena, so don't use it so much, but ok

[soft raft]

You're missing out on one of the best buffers/debuffers in the game but sure that's your loss

[sterile jolt]

I don't need her to one shot harbiter and 15 meta fights. It's my opinion anyways

[viscid swift]

frankly sometimes using Helena is completely unavoidable

like this current meta showdown

[hot bobcat]

Hm, yeah im def gonna need to sleep on this for a couple nights while learning more

[remote yarrow]

If you wanna learn here's your best friend https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/index

Also this channel

[sterile jolt]

For me, if your fleet is bad, than you can just put Helena for more damage, and don't mind about something different. Imho as always

[hot bobcat]

Alright. Will do. Def gonna have to stop putting my head under the sun to learn more

[fiery raptor]

help me get this straight
VIT-2 = more damage than breguet/sidegrade to skypirate
Breguet = same damage as barracuda but fast reload and has intercept
I'm thinking of scrapping some of the VIT i got on hand to make room to start stocking up on breguet as slot fillers when i don't want to move wyverns.

More Breguets > More VIT ?

[silver lintel]

Yea

[viscid swift]

up to you really

[silver lintel]

In fact i use zero vit

[sharp socket]

what can i use for wichita meta cause im doing like 350k against tier 13 so it might be 5 hit for max level and id like to reduce that

i can do some gear swapping if its needed

[viscid swift]

125ing your Alsace would help

[hot bobcat]

@viscid swift so can i just discard all the other elites i do have?

[viscid swift]

What no, keep them for momentos rewards and tech later on

[remote yarrow]

No, keep them since you will eventually want to level ships to 120 (long term) for something called Fleet Tech and some of them are used for Mementos rewads

[silver lintel]

Is michita 1.4m hp

[viscid swift]

1.35

[silver lintel]

Hmm i will prolly 2 shot as usual

[keen sable]

Third best ship in the game is also elite.

[viscid swift]

I don't even reccomend retiring unique ships period

[hot bobcat]

Hm, alright, still feels like a bunch of these are just extra baggage that arent needed

[soft raft]

they're still valueable as tech point fodder later on
And some have good fleet tech but that's also something for alter on

Just dont make any stupid moves now

[viscid swift]

Also lock your ships

[keen sable]

Then there's a lot you haven't learned yet

[remote yarrow]

Just keep them all, even Kashino that's useless af

[sterile jolt]

You can retro Chen hai xd

[viscid swift]

Don't give them ideas they don't need to be having right now

If you wanna troll go to #al-general

[sterile jolt]

That about good elites, just not a bad idea, but if he don't need it, so he don't do it

[remote yarrow]

Isn't Chen Hai post retro still bad?

[hot bobcat]

Yeah she really was making me want to toss them cause tf is her class even????

[sterile jolt]

She's good

[viscid swift]

She's still bad

[whole crypt]

she's... usable, not good

[sterile jolt]

Xd ok ok

[viscid swift]

She just went from the worst CV in the game to just bad with her retro

[whole crypt]

she is however a good candidate for ch15 support, if you get there

[viscid swift]

Which is a long long long way off for them right now

[remote yarrow]

Munition Ship, aka something you won't be using almost never

[stark quiver]

theres ex stages, which is like one lol

[sterile jolt]

Used her for w13 mob fleet, and sup in w15, but yeah, still bad ok

[sharp socket]

red will give gems from memento, yellow good tech

just keep them all honestly

[soft raft]

what's orange supposed to be then

[sterile jolt]

Loli

[stark quiver]

i think it means either loli or no

[sharp socket]

first time using remix function didnt know it auto sent and ping

orange is meh cause no tech

[remote yarrow]

Anyways, don't bother with retiring ships for now @hot bobcat

[soft raft]

I-26 gives tech points tho

[sharp socket]

sub is actually fine there but theres better options

[stark quiver]

orange keep cuz non perma pool

[viscid swift]

I26 does give tech

[hot bobcat]

Eh, alright

[soft raft]

Also formidable doesnt really give good fleet tech

[remote yarrow]

You are still way off having your dock full and you can buy more dock space with gems you get for free by beating stages and complething mementos although they are limited

[sharp socket]

tech also includes tech bonuses

[hot bobcat]

Yeaahhh that is the downside

[silver lintel]

Is 500 dock space enough

[remote yarrow]

Not really a downside, @viscid swift is 100% F2P and has a 100% collection rate

sorry for ping Cheeky

[silver lintel]

Well manjuu was more generous back then

[sharp socket]

(he has also been playing for like 5 years)

[topaz smelt]

ping him again to show how sorry you are

[hot bobcat]

Damn. Thats impressive

[viscid swift]

It's not been that long

Only since December 2020

So I missed a lot of the early Apolo gems

And due to my own stupidity missed a lot more free gems when I was playing

[sharp socket]

still like 3.5 years thats quite some time

[topaz smelt]

Weren't like half of them all in 1 year

[old zodiac]

is foch M good if Mlb?

[viscid swift]

Probably

Foch META is shit

[old zodiac]

aight

why though?

[stark quiver]

cheeky howd u get better

[remote yarrow]

Every META ship from cruise pass is dog water with the exception of Fortune which has pvp uses

[silver lintel]

Is 500 enough if i scrap all farmable commons and rares

[viscid swift]

Bad stats, not particularly good skills

[old zodiac]

i wish they can get some buff

wasted exp packs on her

[sterile jolt]

Probably not)

[viscid swift]

I started paying attention to AL news

[stark quiver]

al news?

[viscid swift]

For opportunities of free gems

[keen sable]

Still is basically foch would do it

[remote yarrow]

Probably? there's like 100~200 common ships

[stark quiver]

better in terms of like saving resources, how to manage them efficiently, and get good gear from lab, cuz im stuck with minimal geaar since no bp

[silver lintel]

Farm more opsi, took me 4-5 months for a decent collection

[remote yarrow]

oh nvm there's way less commons ships

[plain saffron]

Follow sam's guide for research

[remote yarrow]

They are like 50

[hot bobcat]

@remote yarrow wait, okay so to enjoy the game more, would it be bad if i still mostly wing it just for the fun aspect?

[silver lintel]

Well fun is subjective

[stark quiver]

I kinda just do dailies, and clear the chest sectors in opsi, not really spamming , am I doing something wrong, like should I be farming like c5 or 6

[topaz smelt]

the fun part of the game is staring at tiddies and ass, no one actually likes the gameplay

[remote yarrow]

Fun is what you enjoy, some ppl enjoy tryharding, others just like to collect ships, etc

[viscid swift]

Well, I basically just lurked here and tried reading a ton of guides

[silver lintel]

Opsi is do dailies, clear all symbols on map, spam c5 with the remaining AP

[stark quiver]

Where do u find said guides? Bot command? Or just pile them all up, also about c5 do they drop any UR prints?

[viscid swift]

You can, but I strongly recommend still actually learning about the game because that ultimate sets you up to reap the most benefita

[silver lintel]

Praying for cat node drops

[topaz smelt]

its ok to be bad and ignorant, just dont regret when you find out

[remote yarrow]

Answers may vary depending on which channel you ask, most ppl in#al-general like staring at their waifus and leveling them, ppl in here might wanna beat hard stages or whatever

[viscid swift]

Well today you have Sam's guides so what I read is just garbage incomparison
also just asking and lurking here you pick up a lot of stuff

[frank pulsar]

i was one of those lurkers

[hot bobcat]

Oh okay i see, so if i were just trying to collect EVERY ship than prob not stress about this huh? (Well the adv stuff)

[viscid swift]

Well you absolutely do

Because to get every ship you need to clear some of the hardest content in the game

[keen sable]

Good luck collecting every ship while using random ships and gear

[topaz smelt]

ye guides back then were mostly hot garbage until ectl started

[frank pulsar]

if youre not playing to complete the game or anyt like that its still best to at least push to world 12 and do opsi so you have resources to level and use ships

[viscid swift]

New Orleans is funnily enough why I started taking OpSi seriously

[silver lintel]

Huh how

[frank pulsar]

after that youre gonna need to tryhard to get new orleans and houston ii cuz those are locked behind 14-4 and 15-4

[remote yarrow]

Cuz she drops from W14 and it requires some decent gear and most decent gear comes from Gearlab/Opsi

[stark quiver]

Can someone link the entire Sam’s guide collection

[remote yarrow]

I guess

[viscid swift]

Try clearing W14 in 2021 without gear lab gear, no tech, and bad cats

[remote yarrow]

https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/index

[hot bobcat]

Hm, well i know that i have a severe soft spot for eagle union lol

[topaz smelt]

w14 was actually hard on launch, was a joke compared to 15

[viscid swift]

Oh and few PR ships

[keen sable]

#bot-spam /guide

[silver lintel]

Is lvl cap still 120 at w14 launch

[topaz smelt]

125

[viscid swift]

Nope, but it had only been a few months

[vale spindle]

hi guys

[frank pulsar]

hi

[whole crypt]

well 15 didn't really do anything new

[viscid swift]

Hi

[vale spindle]

Rondo at Rainbow's End Rerun

Links

• Event Wiki Page: https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Rondo_at_Rainbow's_End
• Ship Evaluations: https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/samvaluation#Rondo_at_Rainbow's_End

Shop Priority

1. Seydlitz (1 copy if you didn't get her from build/drop)
2. Build Tickets
3. Cognitive Arrays / Chips
4. DR4 prints
5. Oil/Coins
6. SR Cat boxes/cola/purple plates/etc. (depends on your need)
7. Rest of the shop.
   Note: If you're a new player, consider buying T4 tech boxes before everything else, it helps speed up your game progress by acquiring new equipment early.

FAQ

Build Tickets

You get 31 for the duration of the event. Sources include Event Missions, Login Rewards, Event Shop, and Point Milestone Rewards.
Tickets expire at the end of the event; they cannot carry over to future events.

Oil Cap?

Oil Cap is on all D stages, and is 35 mob, 47 boss, 16 sub for D3. Do /oilcap in #bot-spam for more information.

Best Stages to Farm?

D3 > D1 > C2 > B3 > highest stage.

• Doing the daily x5 or x3 clears is viable, especially if you cannot clear D3 or want to speedrun the event.
• Make sure to do the SP stage once a day!

Should I pull for these ships?

Reasons you should pull for the ships, in no particular order:

• Waifu
• Collection
• Better than some permanent options at their hull type (only for gold ships, check the evaluations linked above for more information).

*Note: There are 2 more UR events scheduled for 2024, plus potential (unconfirmed) UR rerun events, spend cubes wisely.

[remote yarrow]

HOLY SHIT

[stark quiver]

Do you know around how much hours you put into the game a day average?

[vale spindle]

someone ping mods to pin this i gotta run

[remote yarrow]

That's a jumpscare

[viscid swift]

Actually having the game running...
More than I'd dare imagine

[topaz smelt]

sam just apply for mod so you can pin it yourself

[novel condor]

purple mod when

[novel condor]

@atomic abyss @south sequoia pin this thx

[viscid swift]

29 build tickets total seems off

[remote yarrow]

I think they are dead

[novel condor]

wait which other mod likes to be in gph again

[whole crypt]

effectively 24 hours a day

[viscid swift]

Should be 31

[frank pulsar]

thorin and yuki

[stark quiver]

But mostly just afk right?

[topaz smelt]

no one likes being in gph

[remote yarrow]

Lets give them a few minutes then we ping the roles

[frank pulsar]

they might be sleeping or smth at this hour

[remote yarrow]

[viscid swift]

Mostly yes

A few hard grinds at the beginning of the month for OpSi and new events

[vale spindle]

<@&472236072743600148> pin this plz thanks

[vale spindle]

[topaz smelt]

sams above the mods in gph

[old zodiac]

so build tickets are given like 1 time or per day?

[whole crypt]

[remote yarrow]

Thanks Fluvee

[vale spindle]

If i got the build tickets info wrong ill fix it later

[keen sable]

What even is the question? You can have gear you need and every ship with about 30 minutes of active play. If you can let game auto longer even better. A couple of hours every few weeks is helpful in setting stuff up, spooling up events, etc

[remote yarrow]

Is afk farming considered game time?

[frank pulsar]

i guess? youre still having the game run so technically...?

[remote yarrow]

Cuz daily I probably just play like 30m or so and the rest few hours is just afk W12 and/or Opsi

[frank pulsar]

i actually need to do opsi next month
im running out of electronics

[remote yarrow]

Why not now

[topaz smelt]

for me its click dailies for 10mins, start 6x 12-1, come back in 6 hrs , click repeat, close game

[frank pulsar]

cuz theres barely two weeks left and itll be a mad rush

[remote yarrow]

Do it no balls

[frank pulsar]

i do in fact lack balls

[whole crypt]

it takes like 3 days to clear everything if you take the lazy auto route

[keen sable]

It starts adding up if you have to tap 20 buttons every hour

[whole crypt]

imagine moving manually in strongholds and hiddens

[graceful meteor]

I do for strongholds, can’t stay awake letting auto run it on last day

[south sequoia]

What the fuck why did fluvee pin it

[remote yarrow]

First time I've seen Fluvee in here ngl

She's maybe secretly lurking from time to time

[whole crypt]

I do not in fact advocate manual strongholds unless you care about commander xp for some reason

[graceful meteor]

bruh I mean skip trick to only do 6 fights, due to having 5 stronghold and bunch of logger to do on reset day

[forest palm]

Too much work la

[graceful meteor]

well, I need to get back to it, my plate stash depleted

[keen sable]

Never should have stopped

[remote yarrow]

Yeah I was about to say that

Why do you stop doing Opsi?

[graceful meteor]

Lazy

[wind hazel]

[remote yarrow]

But you can auto the whole thing for 5k oil

[keen sable]

Is literally built for lazy...

[forest palm]

Yet yo do strongholds in the most obtuse way possible

[vale spindle]

Cause i pinged smol mods and fluv is the most active smol mod

[remote yarrow]

Wait Fluvee is both Admin and Mod

[vale spindle]

yes big mods dont lose smol mod role since big mods can do both big and smol things

[graceful meteor]

well, all I did was buy 5k auto once, open it again at end of month and try to run what I can

[viscid mauve]

which preload ships are the fastest for farming?

[vale spindle]

cvs

bbs have time stop slow motion whatever you call it

therefore cvs are better

[sterile jolt]

Another chance to see their asses, right?)

[remote yarrow]

What are you even talking about

[vale spindle]

if you care about that then alsace is the best one, followed by flandre

[frank pulsar]

be aware that too many preloads make some of them redundant, be sure to mix in fast loading cv with the preload cv

[vale spindle]

*for bb preloaders

[forest palm]

You do slow down your clears regardless of what you use if you stack multiple pre load

[frank pulsar]

like impero, indep or akagi muse

[silver lintel]

U forgot bearn meta

[vale spindle]

bearn meta pogu

[keen sable]

just use harbin ps

[silver lintel]

Harbin best torp stagger

[sterile jolt]

Vittorio and Aquilla too

[viscid mauve]

so would aquila and perseuse and another cv for fast loading be good for clearing 12-4 fast?

[sterile jolt]

Yeah, why not

[rocky fjord]

12-4 is too weak for more to matter

[soft raft]

Also don't forget that Aquila has to be using a DB to have a preload

[keen sable]

Why would you want to use 3 capped ships on 12? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

[viscid mauve]

for faster clear but if it doesnt matter in 12-4 what about w13?

[keen sable]

What's the point of clearing if nothing can level?

[crimson glacier]

whats even the point for clearing fast

[atomic abyss]

This isn't opsi

[viscid mauve]

burn oil faster

[crimson glacier]

you will just hit the morale wall

[graceful light]

i think he just wants faster sorties so he can finish with AL's daily routine quicker

so in this case, hit the morale wall asap

[keen sable]

Long com seems a lot faster

[viscid mauve]

what is long com?

[stark quiver]

12 hour commission

[crimson glacier]

10h

[stark quiver]

It’s 10?

[sterile jolt]

Burn in opSi for more ap

[viscid mauve]

thats capped at 5 per week tho

[soft raft]

No it isn't

It's shit either way tho

[viscid mauve]

But I see it's capped at 5

[wind hazel]

[plain saffron]

It's capped 5 per week

I remember clearly because i always max it in first few months

[stark quiver]

Rerun tmo just spend all your oil there

[keen sable]

It's not capped at 5000 oil

[fresh tangle]

Is this the elusive STAAG I’ve seen mentioned?

[sleek spade]

yes

[remote yarrow]

Idk, it has the word STAAG in it

[sleek spade]

[agile sky]

is there a reason why chpt 12 is the go to for lvl up farming? Like is it a big difference from chpt 11? Or why not do 13 if u already cleared it?

[fresh tangle]

Who are you usually putting staag on? Seems like everyone can equip it 😂

[remote yarrow]

Main/backline ships

[keen sable]

It's stupid easy compared to 11 for starters. Because 13 isn't as easy

[zenith pebble]

:AkagiRage:

[fresh tangle]

Hood or Nelson it is thanks

[zenith pebble]

probably hood

[agile sky]

is it all of chpt 12 or just 12-4 thats easier?

[remote yarrow]

All of W12

[wary timber]

I finally pushed through to W10. Anything to note of at w10?

[remote yarrow]

idk why devs made W11 harder than 12

[zenith pebble]

im pretty sure bunker hill is in 12-4

that or 3

[remote yarrow]

You are pretty wrong, she's on 13-4

[zenith pebble]

is it in 2?

[keen sable]

All mobs are easy. Obviously 1 is even easier than 4. This is true everywhere afaik

[inland shoal]

12-4 is Choukai

[keen sable]

Pain train

[rocky fjord]

jintsuu

[wary timber]

Pain train?

[zenith pebble]

id say create a thread with your dock

[stark quiver]

Use fire extinguishers I think

[remote yarrow]

Yeah W10 will burn your backline

Mostly your flag iirc

[keen sable]

You'll find out.

[agile sky]

so how exactly does lvl farming work with chpt 12? Mainly, if i wanna raise a new ship, can they be carried or would they wind up sinking the whole fleet.

2nd, if i just run the stage repeatedly, would the mob fleet lvl faster than the boss fleet? If so how can i "fix" this.

3rd, how do i deal with the whole tired and losing affinity thing?

[zenith pebble]

dorm?

[stark quiver]

For 3 you put them in dorm then go touch grass and come back and go again

[remote yarrow]

1. You bring 1 to 3 shitters you wanna level up, but level them up with books first ranging from 70~90
2. Yes Mob will always level faster than Boss since they fight more
3. Put them in dorm, 2nd floor recovers morale faste than 1st

[zenith pebble]

ooo didnt know that

[forest palm]

You can just drag a level 1 ship till it just stops dying lol

[wary timber]

By burn my main fleet ships what do u mean... bomb boats? Enemy ship shelling? Planes ?

[remote yarrow]

Taz is right but their morale will drop fast

iirc it's -10 morale everytime they die

[agile sky]

would i not have to worry about my whole fleet just ending up failing? Asking cuz im lowkey kinda scrapping by 10-4 rn with a team that someone here helped me with. Feels like everything would fall apart if i swapped one out...

[keen sable]

1. L1 ships can be carried on 12 with 2 healers + a sandwich if vanguard. 0 carries need around 105+

2. Swap ships or make the bossy ships do ops and pvp

3. Assuming you do the obvious stuff, Multiple fleets

[remote yarrow]

Are you using 1 or 2 fleets?

[forest palm]

Either way 12 - 1 is easy, so you can do full fleets of a range from like 70 ~ 100

[inland shoal]

That depends on how bad your fleet is, but as long as you have some ships with good levels and you have good gears you won't fail

[agile sky]

10-4 musashi boss fleet has 1 ship ded and the other two at half health by the time i clear

[remote yarrow]

I think you misunderstood said instructions

Cuz there's no way someone arranged those fleets like that

[keen sable]

Never said 12 bosses were easy

[remote yarrow]

If they were something from here atleast

[agile sky]

is it the ships, or like the positioning or...?

[remote yarrow]

positioning mostly

Swap Hood and Unicorn around, same goes for Eugen and Z23

[forest palm]

Could even be a gear issue

[remote yarrow]

And this too

[agile sky]

I def dont understand positioning and I even more dont understand gears lmao

[remote yarrow]

figured

[agile sky]

I follow some of the basic from the equip bot thingy but considering I dont have most of the good stuff, I just threw on whatever else appeared on the list or just threw on my highest lvl item if i had nothing

[remote yarrow]

If you want help with your gear make a thread drop in your depot and show equipped

But make it fast since there's only 30m before maint

[zenith pebble]

shit

should take what, 8 hours or so?

[remote yarrow]

Probably, that's what it normally takes

[wintry patrol]

So what is "platform UID" in the survey? I don't recall it being there in previous ones

[agile sky]

Equip Help

[remote yarrow]

That autofilled for me iirc

[plain saffron]

Should be autofilled if from ingame

Are the number 2 digit?

[wintry patrol]

Same, but it's kinda spooky as I don't see it in game, it's longer than 2 digits

[plain saffron]

I think it's just android/ios, I don't remember what it shows for me

[wintry patrol]

Android/emulation is separate question box

[plain saffron]

How long is it

You know what i gonna go check

[wintry patrol]

8 digits, just like player UID but it's different from player one

[plain saffron]

Where do i access survey

Is it gone

[inland shoal]

In the game

[plain saffron]

But where

[inland shoal]

In the event hub

[plain saffron]

It's not there for me

[inland shoal]

Huh it should still be going

[crisp raven]

Once you complete the survey, the tab goes away

[plain saffron]

I'm on my 2nd account

Is it per account not per server account

[crisp raven]

It might be in that case

[inland shoal]

I think so, haven't tried tho

[plain saffron]

Can you sent me the link if you still have it

Which q is the number same as platform id

[wintry patrol]

https://survey.yostar.net/vm/wKrlqqF.aspx sorry, this one is correct

[plain saffron]

Now much I can do with that

[thorny bay]

what's the rainbow spearfish's niche?

[thorn tartan]

is the game about to go into maintenance?

[neon finch]

in like 9 min ig

[thorn tartan]

is that new UR gun, Twin 138.6 1934 gun the best DD gun?

[sterile jolt]

Sounds like yes

[thorn tartan]

is guam useful anywhere?

[cobalt rapids]

yes

[thorn tartan]

over other UR bbs?

[tame jungle]

she is not a bb so

[cobalt rapids]

over other UR cbs yes, she does normal rainbow cb stuff but she has amazing aa

[thorn tartan]

she's main fleet though right?

[cobalt rapids]

cbs are vanguard

[thorn tartan]

oh good.

what campaigns are she good for?

I just started 14-1 but the air doesn't seem to hard

[cobalt rapids]

shes an upgrade over aegir in 14 shes a top pick in 15

[sterile jolt]

W13 and w15

[thorn tartan]

for the boss fleet or the mob?

[cobalt rapids]

both, depends on ur fleets and dock

[fresh tangle]

What’s the event this week for after maintenance?

[thorn tartan]

it's in the pin i think

[fresh tangle]

Ah yeah thanks

[inland shoal]

Hmm it just has rockets
That makes it good antilight and also good for mobbing when there's chonky elites or sth you need to kill
Has no intercept like Wyvern and Baguette tho

[plain saffron]

alright found my link in history, it's your yostar/twitter/whatever bind account id

[fresh tangle]

Emden seems like a good pickup

[thorny bay]

worth using for anti light bossing? and does it have good reload to sync?

[calm rose]

For ship without tb flex slot, yes. Like enty

[wintry patrol]

Ah, lol, thanks for the info
I wonder why only one to answer if they gave the ability to bind from multiple sources, but anyway thanks for the answer

[thorny bay]

so realistically just avp / implacable for light (assuming york2 and kearsarge) (nvm avp needs a german plane)

[thorn tartan]

so this rerun event is basically collection ships. no new gear. get the chips and arrays.

i wasn't playing when it first ran

And some new skins!

[dawn hamlet]

is this a banner interesting to pull?

[calm rose]

You got spare cubes?

[dawn hamlet]

I just have 200 cubes

but I do want some ib ships to increase my tech for friedrich

[steady beacon]

Use the build tickets, but I'd be conservative with those cubes

[calm rose]

I wouldn't pull for this then, if I'm you just go with the tickets

[steady beacon]

Don't go all out and burn them all, that's for sure

[fresh tangle]

Noob question: what is a ghost aa gun? Reading about the event now and wondering

[dawn hamlet]

do I do the daily pull on it then?

[thorn tartan]

players here say you should have a stockpile of at least 400 in case a UR event pops

[inland shoal]

A ghost gun in general is an additional gun a ship just has no matter what you equip

[dawn hamlet]

yeah, apparently vanguard is next but I'm unsure about her, is it fine to skip her?

[thorn tartan]

yeah i was wondering about it too. says something about not dragging your fleet down

in samhearts ship analysis

[inland shoal]

Vanny goes into pretty much every top BB fleet

[fresh tangle]

Im probably going to just do a daily pull and what I get I get. I only have 160 cubes atm so being conservative

[inland shoal]

Yeah the thing is that most ghost AA guns are really bad and since AA guns work in weird ways so that their reload and range is middled, those bad AA guns end up dragging the average down. And as they're ghost guns you can't do anything about them

[thorn tartan]

you'll get plenty of free ship pull tickets for a couple daily pulls

what do you mean "dragging the average down"?

[fresh tangle]

The fact it’s an IB event is nice as I’ve just got anchorage developing so I’m working on FdG tech points now

[thorn tartan]

an extra gun shouldn't hurt should it?

you could work on odin for some IB points

[fresh tangle]

Once I’ve got Anchorage developed I’m going to pick up roon I think

[thorn tartan]

Roon is useful for about 5 minutes

but you get the tech

[fresh tangle]

IB is “easier” in that you get more points per ship. You just do EU first as you get so many of them in campaign

[inland shoal]

Let's say you have one ship in your fleet and it has an AA gun with dmg 100, range 30 and reload 1s. Now you add your ship with a ghost AA gun. The ghost AA gun has 5 dmg, 10 range and a reload of 5s. Those 2 combine into a single AA gun with 105 dmg, range 20 and reload of 3s

[thorn tartan]

the game averages the guns when you have more than one????

of the same type?

[inland shoal]

Yes, as I said that is the case for AA reload and range

[thorn tartan]

does it do it elsewhere in the game, or just for AA reload and range?

[inland shoal]

Just that

Well ig planes on a single carrier too

[thorn tartan]

what great ship suffers from this defect?

[warm flax]

Is it exactly "average" or there is a formula

[inland shoal]

It's average

Great ships? None really

It's usually just vanguard ships without an AA gun slot that get (bad) ghost AAs. That's why it's noted for these ships.

[sleek spade]

is shimanto ghost AA gun good or no?

when she uses the 155mm thingy

[inland shoal]

Pretty good iirc

[thorn tartan]

i haven't noticed any ships w/o AA gun slots...... except maybe carriers in general

[inland shoal]

Well there's Ying Swei etc.

[thorn tartan]

It doesn't look like the EN tier list has included the new UR DD gun yet.....

[sleek spade]

ye

[tame jungle]

ECTL having issues with getting assets so it’s not updated

[sleek spade]

but it is an exceptional gun

[orchid oak]

So which comp is best against lvl 15 Wichita? Is there a consensus yet?

[steady beacon]

We in EN haven't even had a chance to fight her yet

[plain saffron]

There's some theorycrafted fleet

Or that one guy that uploaded on YouTube

[hard mesa]

[south sequoia]

Does cn have a theorycraft yet

[steady beacon]

Ye

[warm flax]

Who

[plain saffron]

Me

[sterile jolt]

Quiet Onguen or smth like this

[eternal basalt]

What? Unlike skins assets are just pull and done

[strong tartan]

Quyet Nguyen? 😭

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[tame jungle]

Don’t ask me bruh ask the ECTL guys

[tender lotus]

Is there AA dmg ranking sheets?

[crimson glacier]

just sandy it

[tender lotus]

[crimson glacier]

i mean its not a joke

[atomic abyss]

I think Isuzu kai can go higher than sandy if similarly buffed
But really are you gonna use her over Sandy or Guam or Laff II or Shimanto or Cheshire

[crimson glacier]

and isuzu is nowhere near sandy when you factor in that you use more than 1 ship in the fleet

[eternal basalt]

Sure, with the +20% AA augment?

[crimson glacier]

isuzu is just complete shit and i dont understand why she needs to be mentioned

[wind hazel]

well, it's AA ranking question

[crimson glacier]

but do you really believe that they would ask for a ranking that completely unusable for the actual game

[wind hazel]

maybe? idk im not him

[crimson glacier]

are you going to recommend sodak next for top tier dmg BBs to just coz its possible to happen

[wind hazel]

why are you so upset

[crimson glacier]

am i?

[wind hazel]

you sound you do yes

[crimson glacier]

idk i think this is just me

[atomic abyss]

This

[wind hazel]

eg if someone ask what gun has highest damage per volley, surely you gonna mentioned musashi gun somewhere. but nobody gonna recommend it

not sure why are you so dismissive over a simple answer lol

[crimson glacier]

i like things that are useful

[atomic abyss]

I even made it clear in the subsequent sentence
"But are you really gonna use her over Sandy or Guam or Laff II or Shimanto or Cheshire"

Torva pls

It's a correct answer with a disclaimer about the very thing you're worried about

[crimson glacier]

lets put it this way

i like to think when someone asks a question, its coz they want to know something that they can use for the game

so yes you could say isuzu is correct answer, but its not a right answer

[atomic abyss]

That's just your opinion
Not everyone asks questions with that in mind lol

There are people here that ask plenty of purely theoretical questions regardless of what you think

I admit that it would be wrong to provide such an answer without context

But I already provided a disclaimer implying that you probably wouldn't use her over the other AA carries anyways

---

Anwyays to elaborate
Isuzu Kai is able to reach higher AA numbers when being buffed by Sandy's yellow skill (it's a really strong AA buff)

At least pre augment I'm very sure of that
I'm not sure about post augment

The issue is that... Is there really a case where one would go out of their way to farm Isuzu and use her for AA

At that point just use Juneau as your budget AA carry

[hard mesa]

its pretty much come down to utility besides AA. Izusu has good AA(high eff, 2 gun) but lack other utility she has compared other AA carries.

[atomic abyss]

She's also really frail and lacks any form of damage otherwise

I suppose that makes her useful for MVP manipulation in w12

[thick geyser]

How often are UR banners in this game?

[atomic abyss]

Well new UR events have happened every 3 months so far
But now that reruns of previous UR events are occurring, it would be less than 3 months

[thick geyser]

Ahh, so ur rerun will be in between the new ur banners which is every 3 months?

[atomic abyss]

At least, that's what we've seen so far yes

[vale spindle]

Late feb, cn anni (late may), jp anni (mid sept), end of yr (late dec)

and ur reruns happen whenever normal reruns happen which is in between these and other non ur events

[errant moss]

Can someone recommend Iron blood bb?(for late game)

I missed the Bismark 2 event

[boreal oriole]

UVH

[errant moss]

Oh yeah when shell be added to the perma pool?

[inland shoal]

FdG ig

[errant moss]

Some ppl are saying she isnt worth grinding

[inland shoal]

...what?

[errant moss]

Basically she isnt that good ?!!

[remote yarrow]

Who are "some ppl"?

Cuz I doubt they are from this channel

[inland shoal]

Some ppl say the earth is flat too

[errant moss]

My friends

[sinful escarp]

people that dont have a fleet to grind for her coping that she isnt worth

[remote yarrow]

Well your friends don't know what they are talking about

[inland shoal]

FdG isn't great in w15 or bossing, but that aside...

[errant moss]

Soo she is good?!!

[remote yarrow]

Get FdG

Currently using her in W14 mob so yes

[errant moss]

Exactly i needed a bb for w14

[inland shoal]

She's one of the best options for w14 mob flag

[remote yarrow]

Do you not have any other Research ships? Cuz FdG should've probably been your first prio

If not, give this a read https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research I could help you but I'm way too tired and I gtg 5:20AM

[blissful hamlet]

anything new on this maint?

[tame jungle]

#game-news

[blissful hamlet]

nothing new I see

[fresh tangle]

People get anchorage first because the EU tech comes easily in campaign unless you start playing during an IB event

Very excited about this event. Saves my items for chessboard 😂 perfect timing really the day after I get anchorage to start FdG

[whole crypt]

is EN maint usually over before JP daychange?

[wind hazel]

short one yes

8hrs one ends on exact day change for jp

if day change is 00:00

[inland shoal]

I have no idea when jp daychange is

[tame jungle]

at midnight

[whole crypt]

guess we'll be doing more t15 tests around the same time then

[tame jungle]

jp timezone is GMT +9

[inland shoal]

EN maint usually ends at 1 or 3 pm GMT if my math is not wrong

[tame jungle]

3pm GMT for the 8h ones yeah

[strange sphinx]

what's the Rondo event drops and weapons? or it

[plain saffron]

It's 11 pm my timezone
You're welcome

[steady beacon]

Gold G7e in D3 is the only one I can remember
There are no weapons in the event shop

[strange sphinx]

hmmm good drop?

in terms of usage

[whole crypt]

good if you need sub torps

[steady beacon]

I mean, you're probably just gonna want to farm D3 anyway so you can pick it up incidentally

[strange sphinx]

wait... is that the Magnetic sub torp?

[steady beacon]

Ye

Well, one of the magnetic sub torps

[inland shoal]

It's one of the 2 usual sub torp choices

[vestal thistle]

When maintaince over

Like how much more cause my brain can't convert hours rn

[finite crag]

2

[vestal thistle]

Thank you

[fresh tangle]

Should’ve held onto oil yesterday tbh. Not that desperate to level ships atm but getting IB tech is juicy 😂

[crisp estuary]

[south sequoia]

A little disclaimer that the SMS ships don't give as much tech as normal KMS ships

[crisp estuary]

Racism? In my Ironblood?

[wary timber]

Btw I see some people using only 2 ships in their fleet formations. Is that to save fuel or something

[crisp estuary]

Ye

[south sequoia]

For example, Seydlitz gives 62 tech (SMS BB) compared to Prinz Eugen with 126 tech (KMS CA)

[south sequoia]

Yep however in the modern day it's pointless to do that because of oil cap, only reason why people run 1:1 comps is for hardcore point farming or to clear event stages

[crisp estuary]

You do not need to because ch 9+ introduces oil cap. No matter how expensive your fleet is, as long as you got threat level to safe, your oil cost is always capped at a lower cost than you would

[south sequoia]

oops brain fart

[wary timber]

Yea that person is watching is clearing event stages and dangerously low on fuel

[fresh tangle]

Well that’s good to know. Will still grab what I can here then after finish up with chessboard

[vestal thistle]

Aren't they both German?

[eternal basalt]

Event right after is IB too