gameplay-help

[atomic abyss]

16 August

[remote yarrow]

For EN atleast

[dense epoch]

oh wow thats close

[loud rover]

if you dont have 3 champy guns (the gold BB gun in screenshot) then thats usually recommended as you'll eventually make a BB fleet in opsi

at least thats what i was told to do

[frank pulsar]

if you have triple 406 mk1 (soyuz gun) you only need 2 champy gun

[crimson rock]

Either I'm blind, That PR3 thing isn't there no mo, or I'm looking in the wrong places (the proto area in munition)

[frank pulsar]

its from the pr3 selection print, you cant directly buy it
you buy the selection print and convert from your depot

[crimson rock]

Oh

[loud rover]

and then you can select which weapon blueprint you want from purchasing those

[remote yarrow]

Keep in mind you can only buy 20 monthly and it requires 25 to craft the gun

So for 3 it takes 4 months

[keen sable]

And then you wait till next month because you need 25

I suggest you figure out how you got 200 or no mas

[patent pivot]

anyone here have a 125 no rld Vanguard

need to check a thing

[remote yarrow]

What is that supposed to mean

[patent pivot]

no rld enhancement

[remote yarrow]

oh, nope

[keen sable]

Why. 0 rld = 0 fp...

[crimson rock]

Perhaps I'm outta the loop, but which one is the champagne gun?

[remote yarrow]

That's a really specific scenario ngl

[patent pivot]

sync reasons

[keen sable]

My vanguard is like -8

[cloud fractal]

I can select another NJ or Shin through the exchange, but both are MLB. Do I just hold and wait to see if something else rotates into the exchange pool, or pick one and sell for cores to get UR bulin?

[remote yarrow]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Triple_406mm_(Mle_1938_Prototype)

[crimson rock]

Tri 406, ok

[hard mesa]

base without tech? 178?

[crimson rock]

So I have 3 BPs of the Tri 406... Wot now?

[atomic abyss]

Wait till you can buy more to craft them

[dense epoch]

is there an upcoming event coming i started at the last 8hrs of the last event before it was gone rip

[atomic abyss]

There is an event rerun coming

[remote yarrow]

But you should save for the next one

[crimson rock]

What, was I supposed to get as many BP's as I had protocores for?

[frank pulsar]

you need 25 to make one, you should be able to purchase a max of 20 per month

[remote yarrow]

Only Seyd and Emden are good in this rerun

[crimson rock]

Ok

[frank pulsar]

smoothie mentioned this earlier

[cloud fractal]

I’m assuming if we’ve never played the event we should still try for Emden and Seyd?

[loud rover]

seyd best option imo since she's free, emdem luck of the draw with tickets

[remote yarrow]

I mean, they'll give free gacha tickets so you'll probably luck sack her

But actively trying to get her if you don't have enough cubes probably not

[frank pulsar]

if youre a collection player get all of them, otherwise imho only emden is worth for later game players since seydiltz is outclassed by ur bb

[distant lodge]

Fellas, is it good if i use Saint Louis in 14-1?

[atomic abyss]

Anything to have another Ironblood backline for grinding

[remote yarrow]

Probably not?

[distant lodge]

Owkey.

[frank pulsar]

itll prob work if your fleet comp is good and your gear is good, wouldn't recommend it though

[atomic abyss]

Not particularly good
She's just gonna perform the same as ever

[cloud fractal]

I do tend to collect. Caveat is that I end up with too much and don’t know what to prioritize.

[atomic abyss]

Well if you wanna use her
I suppose she'll be better if Alsace is there

[frank pulsar]

functional ship > fleet tech > waifu

functional ship meaning the ships youre gonna actually use, fleet tech being those you 120 for the stat bonus and waifu is waifu

[cloud fractal]

I kind of interjected on the last conversation, so I’ll ask again for recommendations. I have guaranteed UR but both of mine are MLB, save in case guaranteed pool rotates, or grab random and sell for currency/cores?

[frank pulsar]

sell for currency imho, it doesnt take that long to build up pity again

[loud rover]

me burning mats on west virginia and colorado retros cause they look awesome, but they still provide 1 FP at 120

[distant lodge]

Save :3

[viscid swift]

personal preference at that point

[cloud fractal]

Yeah. I just had too many useable ships there for a hot minute. But I’m starting to level off. Just finishing up Indep and Sara retros now.

[frank pulsar]

if you have a lot of good ship prio the ones you need most
e.g. youre missing a tank, so you level a tank

[cloud fractal]

I mean ark and Sara. Indep is done.

[forest palm]

don't bother with Ark

[distant lodge]

Is she bad? I was actually kinda planning to retro her

[forest palm]

more so outdated

[soft raft]

more like better options exist

[distant lodge]

Ohhh, got it.

[graceful meteor]

still good tech later on

[soft raft]

If you only have Augustus (or she's still a wip), sure you can go for her, esp if you plan on doing a 2nd OpSi CV fleet
If you have both Augustus and Implacable, then she's pretty much benched

[forest palm]

don't need to retro her for use, or tech either way

[viscid swift]

I wouldn't quite say don't bother with Ark Royal
getting AvP up and ready isn't that quick

[distant lodge]

In pr4 who should i build? I kinda want the one deals great damage.

[soft raft]

basically everyone in PR4 except Marco Polo is a must get

[atomic abyss]

All except Marco really

[soft raft]

But you do Marco anyways to max her out to make maxxing out the other PR4s faster

[distant lodge]

Oh, is she bad?

[graceful meteor]

outdate

[soft raft]

not exactly
just extremely powercrept by the deluge of UR BBs

This goes for basically every research BB that isnt a DR

[atomic abyss]

Anchorage and Agir are some of the best tanks in the game
AvP is the best slower in the game outside Implacable
Hakuryuu, together with Shinano produces one of the some of the highest damage in the game
Marco is simply outclassed

[soft raft]

iirc Marco used to be top SR BB but the powercreep has booted her out of that title or is at least close to

[distant lodge]

What if i don't have shinano? Will Hakuryuu still be great?

[soft raft]

Yeah
you'll get Shinano eventually anyways one way or another

[atomic abyss]

Hakuryuu helps Shinano more than the other way really

[graceful meteor]

isn't avp need fs5 to be reliable?
haven't used her for a long while

[frank pulsar]

marco is still very strong pick for ssr bb, people just dont rec her cuz theres an abundance of ur bb

[atomic abyss]

AvP does need FS5 yes

[forest palm]

both can be independent of one another in terms of functionality, but both mutually benefit from one another

[soft raft]

yeah she has to be FS5 for 100% proc rate

[atomic abyss]

Owari and Aug Izumo be like:

[forest palm]

it did not take long for Marco to get powercrept lol

she's absolutely generic strong mob bb

[viscid swift]

not having a 100% barrage proc rate is kind of a deal breaker these days for SR BBs

[forest palm]

it is a touch antiquated, ya

[distant lodge]

Should i use Yorktown II as a boss fleet?

[viscid swift]

maybe, maybe not

[distant lodge]

Owkey.

[soft raft]

depends on 1) the content 2) what other options you have and 3) if she's even MLB yet or not

[distant lodge]

She's pretty maxed out.

[soft raft]

better to post your dock in a thread if you want help with fleet building

[cloud fractal]

I have neither of these. Working on Anchorage right now. Seeing a lot of Hakaryu (I’m making up my own spelling) research.

[blissful hamlet]

why do the angel feather on core shop already at 1/2? I haven't bought any

[south sequoia]

It counts the pre existing copy in your inventory

Its limited after all

[blissful hamlet]

[zinc turret]

How to kill her ? She keep healing

[forest palm]

HE, and BF109G

[blissful hamlet]

use better fleet

[soft raft]

have better DPS

[blissful hamlet]

javelin tank '

very based

[remote yarrow]

DPS check, either use better gear or if you have a CV fleet hold 6 Airstrikes and release them at the same time

[zinc turret]

So manual battle i guess

[blissful hamlet]

you will manual most of opsi boss if you don't have the best ship/fleet

[sweet delta]

Manual solves 99% of Azur lane problems. For the other 1%, restart your game

[zinc turret]

How her healing work btw ?

[sweet delta]

When the game first detects that she's below 30% hp, she starts healing

[forest palm]

pretty sure you can tap scan, then tap the siren, and it'll show you what the mods all do...it's been ages

[loud rover]

he got lucky it wasnt reverse healing on top of it

[forest palm]

not really, the worst you can get as a newer player is Zombie + Null Damage

[loud rover]

mm yeah. HP shield still annoying to this day. i gotta manually fire my first salvos if i see that mod because i load during null damage and auto decides to send it

[zinc turret]

[forest palm]

did you already use your strongest fleets?

[loud rover]

he's got null

[zinc turret]

Yeaa

[little tree]

When i sawped balti portland and z23 helena my boss fleet sufferd a lot vanguard was neraly wiped out

[forest palm]

run one of your fleets into this, it'll lead you to a mob ship you can kill, and remove low resolve

well remaining fleets

[zinc turret]

Owh there is mob there huh

[loud rover]

did u order ur ships portland, helena, z23?

[zinc turret]

I tought no mob in the map

[forest palm]

there's one on each side

[viscid swift]

then consider stopping temporarily to get some more levels on some ships

[little tree]

understood

[forest palm]

provided none of your ships sunk, then you just need to heal up your strongest fleets, and got at it

also if the run is bad, just quit out the fight, it doesn't save

[blissful hamlet]

when is the next PR season? july?

[forest palm]

like mid-ish July

[blissful hamlet]

UR CV

[forest palm]

we'll start to see some stuff late June, and early July iirc

[loud rover]

should be vanguard rerun no? we got a new UR with soyuz last UR run

[blissful hamlet]

ah wait I forgot they already mention CA DR

[forest palm]

mm, in terms of order Vanny's event did run after Emden's event, but there's no guarantees, so

[opaque galleon]

Heh? I heard pasta dr but where ca?

[loud rover]

wasnt it a pasta CA DR?

[blissful hamlet]

it's the pasta dr

[opaque galleon]

This is some general territory tho

[loud rover]

thought they were doing italians in pr7

[boreal oriole]

Lvl 13 Wichita Meta is already making my Vanguards life flash before their eyes.

[viscid swift]

they said it in the CN Anni stream

[loud rover]

kinda hoping for vanny rerun, her buffs are better than Howe's.

[opaque galleon]

New IB event is also confirmed?

[viscid swift]

whic practically puts it down to either Venezia, Brinidisi, or Napoli

[plain saffron]

IB SP event

[distant lodge]

14-3 fleet building

[viscid swift]

yes

by both CN and NP

[forest palm]

well the direct 1:1 of Vanny is Dork....

[blissful hamlet]

howe buff don't even sync with anything

[plain saffron]

damn new NP server

[zinc turret]

I wonn , well thanks , knowing there is a mob in that map kinda like skip like 8 hours for waiting rest order

[loud rover]

should i swap out Howe in my BB opsi for Dork then, or just wait and see who the next UR is gonna be so i dont waste resources if it turns out to be vanny?

[zinc turret]

A bit tricky but i let her prompt her heal and manually shoot my skill after her shield gone

[sweet delta]

Depends on the fleet, and Duke is the best to level anyways for tech

[loud rover]

right now i've got nelsonkai, fdg, and howe in my BB fleet. uvh in my fleet 4 atm doing nothing, may swap out my richelieu in my opsi mob for UvH

riche preload is a nice thing to have to clear trash waves

[warm flax]

How impactful is Pancake's AA compared to Tigercat

[loud rover]

pancake has 9.01s intercept rof, tigercat 10.81s intercept rof at +10. same guns and same payload

if you wanna compare stuff, its all on the AL wiki

[atomic abyss]

One thing to note is that the pancakes have slower in flight time
So in practice they actually have the potential to kill more planes

[opaque galleon]

How do I gear bearn meta? What does gun and db do in third slot?

[plain saffron]

gun act as secondary gun, db as a db, like usual. it just you can choose

db is better for dmg

[warm flax]

How is this for ch15?

[hollow gust]

Looks fine for 15-1/2

[soft raft]

Your postionings are very odd but looks pretty good

[topaz smelt]

prob fine if you dodge bbs

[warm flax]

I'm used to the default positioning in game

[opaque galleon]

Is the FP barrage bad or something?

[silk sphinx]

boss fleet looks like it might struggle later on in 15-4?

[warm flax]

What could you change

[viscid swift]

all sextuples is just bad as an AA gun set up

[topaz smelt]

ye i dont think its able to kill 2

[viscid swift]

Laffey 2, Cheshire, and Plymouth all run Twin 90s

[warm flax]

Alright

[viscid swift]

Bulges on Shimanto, Plymouth and probably San Diego as well

[plain saffron]

i wouldn't count on a CV which have a lot of AVI to do a lot of FP dmg

[silk sphinx]

a plane vs a cl gun on a backline ship, and a cv at that... efficiency is only 55% tho but plane would be better

[warm flax]

I +13ed like three sextuples cause someone managed to clear it with a full set up for it

[viscid swift]

Twin 137mm on NJ for her aux gun, and Beaver Badge goes to Guam not Cheshire, latter runs a bulge instead

[graceful meteor]

I did it with all sexy, but initial clear was on manual
that said, my fleets are different as well

[silk sphinx]

in that case you did it with suboptimal aa gearing

[sweet delta]

Just because someone cleared with something doesn't mean it's good

~~I cleared 15-4 lethal with all ship AA guns removed ~~

[graceful meteor]

now take off all fighters as well

[topaz smelt]

who cares if it works it works
and no one knows what optimal AA is to begin with

[graceful meteor]

well I didn't even know the rainbow aa craftable in lab at the time so

[sweet delta]

Bye bye support CV fleet

[silk sphinx]

could you send what those handicapped fleets were later?

[warm flax]

By the way can I get away with those TB

[silk sphinx]

get away?

[warm flax]

I'm missing a wyvern

[sweet delta]

Try it for yourself

[topaz smelt]

can replace with breguet if you have those

[silk sphinx]

also craftable now iirc?

[topaz smelt]

core data iirc

i actually think theyre better than wyvs in 15

[soft raft]

yeah core data

[soft raft]

is it because shorter reload time?

[topaz smelt]

it looks like they intercept better too

[soft raft]

[topaz smelt]

i think its something with multi gun AA

likely just hits better

[soft raft]

i see

[topaz smelt]

on paper they have better intercept but in practise it feels significantly better

[silver lintel]

3starred 15-4 safe with this comp, boss fleet just do 2nd boss and stray cv/bb node

[mellow hornet]

Which pr 5 gold ship is the best?

[soft raft]

Harbin > Chkalov >>>> Prinz

[mellow hornet]

Harbin only good for pvp?

[soft raft]

She's good for campaign too
As for #pvp, ask the guys there but most likely not

[silver lintel]

I used harbin for w14 mob and opsimob

[mellow hornet]

Because I'm about done maxing Plymouthh

[remote yarrow]

Get Brest

[mellow hornet]

I thought she sucked

[soft raft]

no lol

[mellow hornet]

And Iris libre ships suck

Pain grind

[warm flax]

No

[soft raft]

that's relatively false too

[remote yarrow]

[warm flax]

Every faction has a good and bad ships

[soft raft]

Brest has seen lots of use in late campaign comps and OpSi mob and JdA is pretty useful vanguard survivability in W14/15

[mellow hornet]

Oh nvm it's main fleet

[soft raft]

no she's a vanguard ship

[remote yarrow]

Is main fleet then vanguard for CDC

[mellow hornet]

That's why we have xp packets

[remote yarrow]

And you don't use them for that, you analyze them for Protocore

[soft raft]

No you do NOT use them for Combat XP

Always convert them to protocore, no exceptions

[rapid grail]

used to be on top of meta lol, now she's a perma option if you lacked JintM and Shima for a while

[mellow hornet]

I always use them for combat xp

[rapid grail]

saying this as one who participate in #pvp

[remote yarrow]

Well you fucked up, not gonna sugarcoat it

[mellow hornet]

I value my time and life more than potential core

[soft raft]

christ you've missed out on alot of valueable protocore then

[plain saffron]

not core data

[eager mulch]

[plain saffron]

farming the exp is actually fastest part, few days
meanwhile protocore from converting can be used to buy months of gear

so if you actually value time, converting is better

[remote yarrow]

~~Istg I can't stand these "I have a life" or whatever excuses you are literally "wasting" your time rn ~~

[plain saffron]

if you took so long to farm exp you're not a good place to farm yet

[silk sphinx]

oh shush, i've been really busy too. everyone has to juggle responsibilities and all the things they want to do, don't be mean

[mellow hornet]

I mean it depends, I would never get brest if I didn't have the core but someone like hakuyruu is super easy

[soft raft]

do you not have at least 3 French backliners and 3 French vanguards of either flavor of French?

[plain saffron]

if you already got al lthe gears or already have enough protocore then yeah anything works

[silver lintel]

Brest is rly nice for w15

[plain saffron]

french is rare though

[keen sable]

Not everyone plays 5 hours a day much less 5 days a week

[soft raft]

And honestly we just had a French UR event where the UR would've given a crap ton of tech points to unlock Brest's research

[plain saffron]

and what if they didn't play at that time

[mellow hornet]

I came back the day after it ended

[soft raft]

Damn

[mellow hornet]

Yeah kinda sucks

Also btw how was that Russian battle ship ur because it looks horrible

[soft raft]

Very good
Top 4 UR BB

[keen sable]

Well turns out she wasn't

[mellow hornet]

What's the new bb lineup?

[soft raft]

BisZwei/Vanguard/Soyuz or Alsace or Musashi

[silk sphinx]

in any case, the more protocore the better, which you get via "analyzing" the combat exp packs. I see that grinding with actual french ships would be difficult though, so i suppose it's up to you. it's not advised to research series 1-3 for gear for example, and 4 has coining too so... so protocore helps buy those gear outright but up to you

[mellow hornet]

New jersey finally got kicked off?

[soft raft]

She's been kicked off for quite a while

[silk sphinx]

well, admittedly kicked off is referring to the position of "best" bb

[plain saffron]

assuming someone rarely plays, protocore still save more time, idk if those prev messages aimed at me or not

[mellow hornet]

Mushahi or soyuz because I have mush maxed

[silk sphinx]

she's still very much a UR bb, and still a mile away from SR bbs

[remote yarrow]

Nah they were aimed at me finding the "I have a life" comments/excuses petty in general but w/e

[soft raft]

Soyuz is more flexible due to her being able to have acess to HE guns that can sync with Helena

[silk sphinx]

even though she's around bottom of the pile when referring to UR bbs specifically (warspite excluded)

[rocky fjord]

there was special core from core data that didn't apply to month cap right

[soft raft]

1k Spec core from medal shop yes

[silk sphinx]

well the 1k frm medal doesn't apply to the 5k limit yes

[rocky fjord]

sounds good, i'm behind on ur bulins

[mellow hornet]

FDR or mushashi for mob if I can just replace my bb team with syouz

[soft raft]

Musashi

[silk sphinx]

also honestly very cheap for 1k protocore

[viscid swift]

Franklin D. Roosevelt isn't in the game

thankfully

[mellow hornet]

*fdg

[silk sphinx]

FDG you mean? i'd pick musashi usually

but obviously you have your boss fleet to think of too

[eager mulch]

yet

[dense epoch]

what event? also what pr1 ship should i focus on getting

[eternal moth]

Rondo at Rainbow's End

[soft raft]

Rondo, and Roon for FdG tech points

[eternal moth]

SMS event, with Seydlitz and Lutzow

[mellow hornet]

Who's sms again

[remote yarrow]

I answered you two hours ago but I guess you just dipped after asking

[silk sphinx]

ye know, people won't know what sms means

[eternal moth]

WW1 Germans

[viscid swift]

His Majesty's Ship
Seiner Majestät Schiff

[eager mulch]

beta KMS ships

[viscid swift]

more like when Germany was actually a naval power rather than a 3rd rate try hard which was only good at sinking merchant vessels

[silk sphinx]

ich lerne derzeit deutsch

in any case, doesn't matter functionally for any players in game, just your regular german faction ships in a non-UR event

[eager mulch]

don’t they give less tech than their more modern or made up friends

[remote yarrow]

Anyways, what I said was if you don't have many cubes you shouldn't really pull with them and just hope to get the ships you want from the free pulls/tickets

Since Emden is the only decent-ish ship in Rondo besides Seyd, but she's free (Map drop and event shop)

[viscid swift]

I think but so do pretty much all the IB ships released after them as well

[eager mulch]

Emden to go with my 5 kms rainbows

[viscid swift]

it's just a collection event really, extra hard bait this time for history nerds

[silk sphinx]

well technically, seydlitz was fairly popular in pvp meta for a while

and also some useful tech

+2 FP emden and hm i think thuringen was 1fp

[viscid swift]

Elbing and Yorck were also FP tech

[keen sable]

Whatever you can

[zenith pebble]

ima need some help building an opsi fleet

[eager mulch]

make a thread, and cheeky will help you

[clever lance]

Hi I’m looking for advice on comp based on ships I have available. Would this be the correct ch? Or anybody have time for me to dm them to avoid spam?

[zenith pebble]

opsi

[clever lance]

I’m pretty early game btw if that matters

[zenith pebble]

you can make a thread of your dock and someone will help

[viscid swift]

Might wanna give that a read then
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/newbie_tips

[clever lance]

Thanks. I will read that first then make a thread

[eager mulch]

cheeky straight to work in the thread

[fossil shard]

What coming after since the event is bait?

[remote yarrow]

Supposedly an IB event?

[eager mulch]

[viscid swift]

An IB SP event

[remote yarrow]

By SP event you mean those SP1~SP5 ones right?

[keen sable]

Midi event. Event shop but no bonus points, bad xp and even worse coin

[forest palm]

[eager mulch]

[remote yarrow]

[crisp estuary]

What's the recommended wichita fleet comp? Carriers or BB?

[eager mulch]

kear

[crisp estuary]

So CV

[eager mulch]

maybe

she’s not at 15 yet

[remote yarrow]

#gameplay-help message
And in Suchi's words "I have received evidence that the BB vanguard just dies. So brest will need to be replaced by anchorage, and that loses Alsace perma debuff"

[forest palm]

still running Wichita M down like a clown with Nano + Haku + Impy

[remote yarrow]

~~This is me but AvP instead of Implac ~~

[crisp estuary]

Still using Enterprise, Yk2, and Implacable

[forest palm]

mechanically the fight looks easy, we'll see if that holds true for Lv 15, but at Lv 12 she just dies so easy

this may be because the fight isn't all that gimmicky

[blissful hamlet]

why use guam? why not someone tankier like agir

does it have a lot of planes?

[atomic abyss]

Boss shell mods are practically identical for heavy and med

And the Manjuu keeps Guam alive longer

[blissful hamlet]

manjuu

I hope they add another manjuu, I'm too lazy to swap it from my pvp fleet

[midnight pewter]

Any tips to fight stage 12 hard mode?

[blissful hamlet]

use good ship and CV

and ship with high AA like sandy, shimanto, or guam

[rapid grail]

lol just swap manjuu. lazy ass

[midnight pewter]

Whats shimanto

[blissful hamlet]

the ship from PR6

[blissful hamlet]

beth truly better than me

[hollow gust]

That’s basically everyone

[midnight pewter]

Whats the ideal lineup for stage 12 hard mode can i see an example

I dont have guam and shimanto fk

[frank pulsar]

triple cv + unicorn + tank + aa carry + flex for mob, triple cv + tank + aa carry/flex + flex for boss

[midnight pewter]

Only sandy, any other strong AA ships?

[blissful hamlet]

sirius

[frank pulsar]

juneau, laffey ii, atlanta class in general

[blissful hamlet]

juneau

[frank pulsar]

uss cl in general should have pretty decent aa iirc

[remote yarrow]

Sirius isn't an AA ship

[midnight pewter]

South dakota

[blissful hamlet]

I used it for hard w13 mob and I'm doing fine

[frank pulsar]

you dont need that much aa for world 12 hard anyway
using more cv in backline helps with aa

[midnight pewter]

Youre right uss ships have decent AAs

[wary timber]

Most US ships have good AA

[midnight pewter]

Probably to fight off kamikazes during ww2 thats why the strong AA

[wary timber]

The ships mass produced later in the war especially

[novel condor]

[clever lance]

Fleet help

[sleek spade]

Now give Yamato…

Is Vanguard worth having or eh?

[remote yarrow]

Yes

[rapid grail]

yes

though i do expect powercreep incoming soon

[sleek spade]

Im not sure how many cubes to unload on her

[rapid grail]

build tickets, then do 3x a day

[sleek spade]

In case I dont get her from dailies and free roll tickets

[silk sphinx]

shrug which other UR bbs do you have?

[sleek spade]

Alsace, Soyuz, UvH, NJ

[silk sphinx]

i no longer rly use vanguard for instance, though i could without worsening anything

[rapid grail]

soyuz alsace vanny

[remote yarrow]

pretty much that would be your BB fleet

[rapid grail]

ez bb bossing fleet

[sleek spade]

Why use a buffer when I could get more dmg?

[steady beacon]

She's worth going to pity for
She's a very curious ship because the criteria to powercreep her is... fascinating and surprisingly narrow

[remote yarrow]

She also does decent damage

[rapid grail]

vanny contributes much more to dmg than you think

[sleek spade]

Hmmm ok

I got 920 cubes rn and Im considering how many to unload on the next two reruns

[steady beacon]

Seconding this with all the force I can muster
It's hard to articulate just how good a buffer she is

[remote yarrow]

She basically has like a 18% damage boost to BBs iirc

[silk sphinx]

18.8% multiplicative dmg boost (injuryRatio?) + personal damage that's better than pretty much all gold BBs (there may be exceptions?)

[steady beacon]

18.8%

[silk sphinx]

i honestly forgot how the thing worked. 18.8 ig

[steady beacon]

(Yes I know it's a tiny difference, but that tiny difference matters when BBs do 5-digit numbers per shot)

[static dome]

oh, I thought VG alr powercrept by Soyuz and Alsace (a bit weaker buff, but alot higher dmg)
so she still good as main pick?

[silk sphinx]

they don't do the same thing...

soyuz is pretty much just big standard dmg, alsace is our new preload BB, and vanguard debuffs the enemy/buffs our dmg

[steady beacon]

She's still fine
You can honestly take your pick from like 5 or 6 BBs for the "standard" BB fleet these days tbh, and they're all about on par in general
You don't have to use her, but she also isn't powercrept

[cyan sierra]

Vanguard is a force multiplier. She becomes more prominent the better your fleet is.

And when your fleet consists of UR BBs and Ply. It will be felt.

[rapid grail]

it's harder finding slots to shove in UR BBs on opsi fleets for the various crossfleetstbh

[silk sphinx]

honestly if you're low on cubes and want to guarantee the next UR i can see a point where you could skip, but at the same you could still go to 0 cubes for her and I wouldn't consider it a waste

[steady beacon]

lixxy has insider information that the next UR is a BB

[silk sphinx]

no clue what you're talking about

[steady beacon]

[remote yarrow]

Please stop with the BBs there's other hulls

[steady beacon]

On the one hand, I agree
On the other, CVs are currently so easy because there are just two fleets so I don't need to burn time studying them too much

[calm rose]

Wait there's still no gacha UR cl right

[remote yarrow]

Nope

[steady beacon]

Still none ye

[silk sphinx]

try to keep the copium and predictium low

[crimson glacier]

What's up gamers

[rapid grail]

BBs boring but practical
CVs difficult but awesome

[atomic abyss]

[elfin hollow]

Does anyone know what the actual max supply capacity is? Wiki says it's 90000.

[rapid grail]

i've been slacking on gold plates for both not the first time i've done that take for gameplay

[ember totem]

[steady beacon]

... I'd actually argue the reverse in some sense
BBs practical (in the sense they are easier to get their main equipped sources of damage all to +13) but fun to play
CVs difficult (in needing like 30 planes +13 for max strength) and also boring because they kill stuff so easily

[ember totem]

And I'd agree with that

also you potentially have to farm a ton of CV RLD fleet tech as well

[south sequoia]

Oh by the way, does uvh still place on one of the top in terms of anti-light damage or did soyuz and alsace also boot her off as well

[elfin hollow]

Thank you 👍

[sterile jolt]

She's still fine in this case, just not so usefull like Alsace and Soyuz

[sleek spade]

Alsace sexy and strong

Her barrage works well against light and medium right?

[cobalt rapids]

Against all

[fresh tangle]

My daily pull was Reno, worth putting any bulins into?

[sleek spade]

Nice

[crimson glacier]

she is kinda like sandy if sandy was dogshit

[cobalt rapids]

No

[rapid grail]

collection tier at this point lol

[crimson glacier]

at this point? since her release

[sterile jolt]

150/115/130

[fresh tangle]

That’s fine then. 36 points for anchorage 😂

[sleek spade]

Wait how do you know barrage armor coefficient

[crimson glacier]

wiki

[sterile jolt]

Yes

[crimson glacier]

and isnt it armor modifier and not coeff

[sterile jolt]

Armor mod as I understand right

[cobalt rapids]

/wiki user:Riceist/bar

[odd root]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Riceist/BarrageDatamine

[sleek spade]

this wiki?
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Alsace

[sleek spade]

ah thank you

[cobalt rapids]

A user page on the wiki

[steady beacon]

It's not on the (EN) wiki page for the ship, gotta look at Rice's barrage page
Or in the datamine

[sterile jolt]

I just read some guides xdddd

[steady beacon]

Are there guides in EN with barrage data?

(I know you can find them easily on CN/JP, but Rice's page is the only one I know for EN)

[fresh tangle]

Tempted to mlb a random EU SR ship then Houston and I’ve got anchorage 😂 someone tell me I’m being stupid

[sterile jolt]

Man, I from Russia, we have our guiders for this xdddd

[steady beacon]

Ah, I see

[sterile jolt]

Like this

[cobalt rapids]

Try mlbing ur elites but if ure not tight on bulins then sr is fine

[fresh tangle]

I know it isn’t a lot but I’m sitting on 20 SR bulins atm

[warm flax]

Should I +11 mk6?

[sterile jolt]

Mmm not really

[steady beacon]

I definitely wouldn't anymore, since it is now possible to eventually get 3 Mk 7s +13
(In saying that, I guess you could, since you can recover your plates on that now, since 3 Mk 7s +13 is one hell of a journey to get to)

[crimson glacier]

but can mk6 +11 even beat mk7 +10

[paper timber]

Hmm, any comp for wichita meta yet?

[cobalt rapids]

#gameplay-help message

[steady beacon]

Ofc not, but a +11 Mk 6 you have and can eventually regain your plates on is still better than a +10 Mk 7 you don't have

[blissful hamlet]

does wichita meta has a weird mechanic that heal my ship? when plymouth dies my helena get healed 50%

[gentle tendon]

Any ship that can help main fleet exp gain for pr grind?

[steady beacon]

Not unless there's some kind of bug involved, serenity
You wouldn't happen to have recorded or screenshotted it, would you?

[blissful hamlet]

I didn't record sadly

[steady beacon]

Argus/Langley/Houshou can boost CV/L experience gained

[gentle tendon]

Aight

[blissful hamlet]

but the manjuu on helena already activated and she miraculously healed 50% even though I don't use pearl

unless fumo and battle tracto have secret heal

[cobalt rapids]

What are ur other ships

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 any vanguard comp that survive past 8s for BB fleet Michita?

[blissful hamlet]

sirius, kear, implac, york2

[cobalt rapids]

Idk

[blissful hamlet]

if it's a bug I hope they don't fix it

[ember totem]

i copied suchiguma's vanguard idea and they've done well so far

[south sequoia]

Whats the comp?

[ember totem]

#gameplay-help message

did the Brest, Guam one

[crimson glacier]

i just used random garbage

[wind hazel]

🫃🏼 i put manjuu on wrong ship

[boreal oriole]

I copied Suchi's comp but they're barely living , Idk if they're gonna survive Lvl15 lol

[crimson glacier]

was stupid of me to use helena

but im lazy on switching stuff

[ember totem]

yeah felt like helena didn't exactly do much for lv14

[crimson glacier]

i mean she died

[ember totem]

[crimson glacier]

but she was also left last

[south sequoia]

why guam by the way?

[crimson glacier]

if i was smart id just use manjuu on laffey 2 or something and jda over helena

[wind hazel]

triple +13 mk7?

[crimson glacier]

nah im lazy so +11 mk6 on vanguard

[ember totem]

i used 2 +13s and +10 on vanguard

[crimson glacier]

havent crafted any extra mk7s

[plain saffron]

if no helena not enough dmg still

[wind hazel]

ye i guess vanguard damage doesn't justify enough a third +13

[ember totem]

probably should use my +11mk6 on her but i'm

[crimson glacier]

if anyone has 14s left then can someone try fleet similar to mine

but with manjuu on laff and jda over helena

[plain saffron]

bb fleet probably gonna be very rng to kill even with helena

[crimson glacier]

why tho

[plain saffron]

just my prediction

[crimson glacier]

i had like 20 sec left when i killed

[boreal oriole]

Balanced damage & Tankiness I guess + consistent armor break

[crimson glacier]

tho i didnt look how many procs i got on helena

[plain saffron]

you need 4 shots and kinda hard to live until the end

[ember totem]

i do see 4 shots is probably needed for lv 15 eventhough like what torva said, i had a few 20s left kills

[crimson glacier]

like the boss will die

you just need to survive

and the fleets im using and seeing dont use like any defense

nagami

[plain saffron]

:laes:

[crimson glacier]

does wichita debuff interact with skills

or is it just basic weapon slots disable

[vocal maple]

Elooo.. is it possible to progress from chapter 10 onwards with this team?
(Been off the game for a while)

[plain saffron]

let me go double check

[atomic abyss]

10 yes, 11 maybe, 12 maybe
Depends on gear
You really want 2 fleets tho

It's quite a scuffed fleet honestly

[zinc turret]

i think it should able to clear till chapter 12 easily if u use good gear

[vocal maple]

I see, should i replace nagato?

Ive only been using her for the Buff on ayanami

[atomic abyss]

Given she's already 125, might as well use her for the time being...

What i'd suggest is use her for another fleet

[crimson glacier]

but she doesnt even buff ayanami like at all

[plain saffron]

looks like just lock movement and weapons(excluding barrages weapons)

[crimson glacier]

so stuff like timed barrages dont care

[vocal maple]

I see

Any suggestions on who should i invest? (Incase i move nagato)

[zinc turret]

musashi for sure

[atomic abyss]

Why are you not using Musashi

[frank pulsar]

musashi, owari, nelson and maybe howe and possibly patricia if you have her augment

[atomic abyss]

Hooood

[vocal maple]

I simped for nagato (i only collected waifus before lol)

[sleek spade]

bro chose The loli over functionality

[copper pine]

is this GPH or al-general

[exotic wren]

Simp advise to another simp: she can clear until ch 11 for sure as long as she's geared properly, might have to change your vanguard tho

[zinc turret]

gph

[copper pine]

why are we talking about simping here

[exotic wren]

Maybe change Belfast to a tank

[vocal maple]

Smt like Roon?

[exotic wren]

......kinda scuffed but she works iirc?

[vocal maple]

Would prinz heinrich be a good replacement for Belfast or maybe Baltimore?

[exotic wren]

Uhhh can you create a thread instead? Then post your dock there

I have a lot to say and I don't want to crowd here

[vocal maple]

I see, sry i dont use DC ofter😅

[zinc turret]

she is good tank

[zinc turret]

click that then click create

[vocal maple]

Slime team

[zinc turret]

did all abyssal map have mob ?

[thorny cobalt]

Which war archive should i go to first?

[zinc turret]

chess for fgd tech

[thorny cobalt]

ok

what is fgr?

[plain saffron]

2 mob hidden yes

[zinc turret]

Friedrich der Große basically UR ship from lab > shipyard

[thorny cobalt]

how does it work?

[zinc turret]

well just have enough ironblood faction tech from chess war archive (by collecting , mlb , lv 120 iron blood ship) when u have enough tech u can start researching her , do the missions and if all of the mission done u can get her and develop her ( kinda like lb & enhance )

[thorny cobalt]

im full gear what do i delete, what do i keep?

[zinc turret]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/User:Thebombzen/Safe_To_Scrap_MK_II

[lethal bolt]

wanna ask,which one is Alsace's purple main gun, is it triple 406mm mk 6 or twin 410mm naval?

[zinc turret]

i use 406 cuz i pair her with helena cuz its shoot after hhelena cast her debuff

[atomic abyss]

Mk6 for light armour

[thorny cobalt]

When will the next big event come and should i pull on it?

[sterile jolt]

Difficult to say

[steady beacon]

Next big event no certainty as yet
Next new event is after Rondo

[old zodiac]

any tips on how i should draw in the event pool on this event?

[cerulean stag]

how often are reruns for URs?

[blissful hamlet]

couple of times each year

[cerulean stag]

tyty

[dense finch]

how can I access to META showndown in opreation siren?

I did it my first time yesterday, now I can't find it

[steady beacon]

For Rondo, you mean?

[old zodiac]

yeah

[zinc turret]

beside that confirm button at tactical class

[old zodiac]

should i like do 10 builds at once

[jaunty vault]

you can either click on the + sign displayed near the META coordinates on top of screen or go back to opsi map and somewhere on the bottom find "META Showdown"

[dense finch]

Thanks!

[steady beacon]

Depends on your cube situation, but I would try to use the build tickets first, then and only then use cubes if you need on the last day
Some of the banner ships are nifty, but if your cube situation is dire I probably wouldn't go all out pulling for them

[old zodiac]

if i got like 60 cubes less how should i do it?

cuz i feel like buildng 10 at once is not efficient

[dense finch]

I have a question. Now I'm kind of stuck at chapter 7/8. Most of my pairs are at level 80 and above. What should I focus on now? Enhancing gears or level-unlock (breakthrough or something like that) my current pairs to wipe the stories?

[dark ivy]

I used to play back then and I remember i had some chars and so, is there a way that I can see which server/email ive used back then? I dont remember at all

[atomic abyss]

Limit break
Focus on a single fleet

[echo axle]

Hello, I have retruned 🗿 I have reached W12, do I just grind through with my ships average level being 100? Or do I farm for gear that can be crafted for my ships

[atomic abyss]

1 light build a day outside events

If during events
Maybe 3x a day

[steady beacon]

Use the build tickets to build three a day probably
Spend the rest of the tickets on the last day to get what you can
If you have cubes to spare thereafter, well... you can assess your situation then

[dense finch]

what does the term "single fleet" mean? I'm new to the game

[old zodiac]

alr alr thanks

[zinc turret]

focus to 1 fleet

[atomic abyss]

Focus on just 1 team

So 3 frontline
3 backline

[dense finch]

Okay good. I understand. Here are my current good pairs. Can you guys suggest me the best team formed from them?

[echo axle]

Retrofit Unicorn when

[dense finch]

I'm trying to find the materials to do so but it's so rare to be dropped out

[zinc turret]

unicorn , shinano , hood , javelin , portland , helena i guess

[echo axle]

Hard Mode, you will get there eventually, Weeklies I think and also through Research

[vernal edge]

Game quite changed after 2+ years, huh. Is there a way to force fleet 2 into doing boss on auto-sortie thingy?

[zinc turret]

hmm role ?

[crimson glacier]

press the roles button

[plain saffron]

yes you can assign 1 fleet to do just boss and 1 just mob

[echo axle]

Go to the role

There will be stuff like Standby, Escorts and stuff, you can assign your second fleet as boss

[dense finch]

who's helena? And also, I see that Hood, takao and akagi u are ranked pretty high in the tier list, Foch META also deals really good damage; why don't you suggest team, instead a rare unit Portland?

[zinc turret]

check guild shop cuz sometimes its sell retrofit material , if u lack of gold retro 3 star the hard stage , for unicorn its x-4 chapter

[echo axle]

Blue Haired Girl

Wait i just noticed where is Helena 💀

[vernal edge]

mob fleet still does boss though?

[echo axle]

Yessir

If you assign Second fleet as standby, it will only clear boss fleet

[zinc turret]

well the newbie mission ask us to limitbreak and upgrade portland , helena u can buy it at elite ship guild shop

[plain saffron]

it won't

[zinc turret]

boss is flagship , that option like setting ur fleet 1 to kill mob , fleet 2 kill boss

[plain saffron]

also note that auto will rush boss as soon as it omes out

[vernal edge]

So i guess it just rushes mobs if boss is blocked?

[echo axle]

yes

[zinc turret]

yea

[echo axle]

I wish they add skipped button to the entire grinding thing

[cloud fractal]

Does the wiki have an updated list of what’s available in the build pools for the regular banners?

[dense finch]

Yeah I purposely limit broke her for that purpose, and then leave her there untouched 😂

[weary scroll]

should i buy the 2 rings?

[zinc turret]

well portland is tank if she do less damage than foch who care her job is stay alive

[plain saffron]

not if f2p

[echo axle]

if you think so If you want skin, save, but if you have money, then go for it 🤑

Musashi MLB Worth it or nah? also oath

[vernal edge]

I mean, if you are stuck on w9, and i presume 9-4, Portland is a good damage sponge after retrofit, unless mechanics changed and Niizuki's barrage now needs to be CV cleared

Isnt it like a torp hell, lite version? God its been so long

Also you can get portland retro rolling faster than any META ship being finished, the only downside is her being lvl70 so the evasion meme only starts to ramp up

[atomic abyss]

The issue is more so that niizuki spins around and around

So shit may miss

[lyric zealot]

Is There Any Shipyard Ship I Should Start Developing? Here's My Current Fleets

[atomic abyss]

Friedrich de Grosse in PR2
Then all PR4 ships except Marco Polo

[old zodiac]

is Ranger better than long island? let's say they are both level 70 and mlb

[flint arrow]

for the SSSS collab items does it matter which slots i equip them on rikka

[lyric zealot]

Aight Thanks

[atomic abyss]

Significantly
But both are not something you use long term anyways

[old zodiac]

aight aight

[vernal edge]

Ranger is cheaper to retrofit and better bang for her buck, but sadly a glass cannon

[old zodiac]

so keep Long Island or Change to rangeR? got the starter fleet still lol

[lyric zealot]

Lemme Complete My Champagne First Then Friedrich

[flint arrow]

@atomic abyss what should it be then

that fine or not

[atomic abyss]

Typical starter fleet is
Pennsylvania + Unicorn + _
Portland + Starter + Helena

[old zodiac]

yeah got em

got long island i mean should i replace to rangeR?

[atomic abyss]

Surely you have something more useful than either by now

[atomic abyss]

She doesn't need the goldburn at all
Follow this

[lyric zealot]

How To Raise Tech Points?

[atomic abyss]

/fleettech

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Q: How do I get more fleet technology points?
You get fleet tech points by:

1. Collecting the ship (~20%)
2. Max Limit Breaking it (~45%)
3. Achieving level 120 (~35%)

-Higher rarity ships gives more fleet tech pts .
-Heavier ship hulls also gives more fleet tech pts: CV=BB>CA>CL>DD

Side notes:
-PR ships give more fleet tech pts than normal but follow the above formula with development 30 replacing MLB.
-META ships are considered a separate META faction. They give same bonuses as their non-META versions.
-Collab ships, Muse and little versions of ships e.g. Li'l Sandy, Clevelad and Lena etc do not give any fleet tech pts.
-Iron Blood faction ships receive double the normal tech points compared to other nations.

For more information and exact amounts, consult the wiki

[echo axle]

Guys, considering there's no new UR coming soon or any reruns that typically interest me, is it okay for me to MLB Musashi? Or maybe even MLB NJ?

[atomic abyss]

Musashi yes

NJ can be ignored probably

[vernal edge]

Ranger is a helldiver RNG affectionado meme, unless you are hellbent on using her OR Long Island and dont have anything else, and simply dont have good planes to stat-pad her, better to avoid her in favor of someone like Unicorn with something like corsairs and be happy about stable dps and healing and not dying because of someone sneezing on her

[echo axle]

My proto cores gone now, only 1k proto cores

[atomic abyss]

Spec core or protocore

[echo axle]

Ummm idk, silver plates

[atomic abyss]

Specialised cores then

[flint arrow]

why cant i equip dragon figurine on princess hime

[wispy cosmos]

do you have the other cargo equipped already

[flint arrow]

you mean the crab

ye. they are exclusive with one another?

[wispy cosmos]

yes

[flint arrow]

oke

[icy mountain]

can i use roon as a mobbing main tank?

[atomic abyss]

You can
Assuming she's max dev

[vernal edge]

Depends on where and how long

[icy mountain]

ye shes fs5, cuz i plan on using anchorage as a my boss fleet main tank

[dense finch]

what's the deal with special secretary? should i spend time "growing" her up?

[south sequoia]

If you want to, the mode brings no actual rewards and is just fluff

[icy mountain]

probably until w13 until i get brest or agir

[vernal edge]

Uhhh...so just exp farming? Do we even have a choice nowadays in KMS vanguard exp mines?

[atomic abyss]

The hilarious reality is

A lot of the options you can use for KMS vanguard exp are the same level or better than Roon herself...

Like Heinrich

And Carl is just straight up better

[echo axle]

Can anyone help with why my Musashi guns are so slow at loading up

[atomic abyss]

Because the rainbow Musashi gun is very slow

[cerulean stag]

is it worth to save for a limited dorm skin or just get the one with the most comfort?

[echo axle]

I'm using the gold one cuz I don't have enough resources to craft that or research it yet 💀

[thorny cobalt]

do i get gems for completing nodes in the war archive maps?

[atomic abyss]

Uh, Musashi gun is from her event tho?

[atomic abyss]

Ultimately, it's aesthetic
Just buy the limited ones imo

[echo axle]

Ummm, I think I missed her event even though I pulled for her (I called it dips and left the game after getting her in 10 pull)

[atomic abyss]

Musashi only has 2 guns she should realistically be using

[cerulean stag]

appreciate you

[atomic abyss]

The triple 410mm for med/heavy armour
And the twin 410 kai for light

Both of which are available via gearlab

[echo axle]

Crap 😔

[echo axle]

i have the gold one

[atomic abyss]

If you lack either, just use the good old purple twin 410 from Sakura boxes

[echo axle]

I have these two

[half plover]

I think my shipyard is bugged, even tho I sortie with the right ships I dont get any exp towards the exp mission 😭

[atomic abyss]

Good
So use the top when facing light armour
Bottom for med/heavy

[atomic abyss]

Did you even sortie them enough to cross the 1% mark...

[plain saffron]

1% is like 10k or 20k
if you farm in low stage 1 clear won't make it budge

[half plover]

I used like 2k oil so probably yeah but maybe I should just restart the shipyard progress

[plain saffron]

what stage

[half plover]

it's gonna be alright no big deal

[atomic abyss]

The amount of oil doesn't matter

It's the stage

[vernal edge]

Realistically you get every full W12 clear with MVP on target ships something like 0,5-0,8%

[hallow iron]

Did u check if it's vanguard or main fleet? I once make that mistake

[plain saffron]

oil cost doesn't matter, what stage

[half plover]

yeah I am at agir and it says second exp is vanguard right

maybe one ship didn't make enough exp so I am probably just below 1% lmao

[atomic abyss]

Yes
So you need 24k exp for 1%

[echo axle]

thank you

[half plover]

#

[plain saffron]

if you use 1 ship then yeah no wonder

[half plover]

it's hard to find good IB vanguard ships lmao

[atomic abyss]

1 ship
Even in w12 is like
6-7k for each run??

[vernal edge]

8k implying MVP

[half plover]

I could use roon as tank at 22dev if she is worth getting to lvl 120 at some point

is deutschland a tank as well?

[atomic abyss]

Deu is the opposite of a tank

At that point you might as well use Z23/46/1

[half plover]

z23 already max level sadly

[vernal edge]

It doesnt matter

[half plover]

this fleet is cursed

[atomic abyss]

That is extremely cursed yes

[half plover]

is shouhou alright with 3 cls? lmao

[atomic abyss]

Shouhou is fine

[vernal edge]

You will get your MVP yoinked by Saratoga

[atomic abyss]

That's not the issue here

MVP manipulation is too much of a pain anyways

[half plover]

I mean before I actually use that fleet I will make sure to at least get the right levels

roon 34 wont tank anything

[vernal edge]

Actually she will on dev20-25

[fiery raptor]

how does the breguet compare to the vit-2 damagewise? i know the 🥖 has intercept but how about damage output?

[half plover]

what would you guys use as vanguard fleet tho?

[atomic abyss]

Id rather you use actually good ships...

[vernal edge]

Carl and whatever else for exp flavor

[atomic abyss]

It's not like maxing carl is a bad thing

[half plover]

so carl it is, and then any 2 other ships for exp?

[vernal edge]

Yeah, if its something like W12 i would've went with Z46 and something else like Leip, or throw out Z46 for another cruiser like idk Roon

Unless Leip buff doesnt work on CA

[half plover]

I could mlb leipzig but only with purple bulins since I never dropped her anywhere

and I dont even have z46

[fiery raptor]

isn't z46 an option in medal shop if DD option is present?

[half plover]

ah yeah she is but I didn't pick her once probably

I mean I could farm her from chessboard probably

[vernal edge]

You can also meme it up and run divergent maps in event replay if you have keys

Make up some exp and level up your girls while at it

[half plover]

is the gold income decent? I forgot

[vernal edge]

Not really Its mostly for the map drops, events rarely give income

[half plover]

ty, I will just meme it and farm it anyway

hopefully I will get out of poverty in the future

[wet prairie]

is baguette any better than wyvern?

[covert tulip]

when will Queen Elizabeth meta added to meta dossier?

[inland shoal]

Debatable, some ppl swear on it for w15

[whole crypt]

sup mogs

[steady beacon]

Depends on your criterion for "better"
It being considerably faster, thereby allowing for better staggering, can be quite useful

[flint arrow]

bad for exercise?

[whole crypt]

#pvp

[wary timber]

Btw does Agir need UR bulins to limit break ?

[warm flax]

No

[atomic abyss]

No research ships require bulins

[whole crypt]

research ships "limit break" when you reach dev10, 20 and 30

[wary timber]

Got it. Thanks

Btw any tips on how to speed up combat data collection

[plain saffron]

farm higher stage use ful lfleet

[whole crypt]

use 3 ships that fit req, grind higher chapter, get morale bonus from dorm

[wary timber]

There's no IB CVL that heal your vanguard is there..

[whole crypt]

no

[plain saffron]

there's no KMS healer yeah but you don't need healer to farm exp anyway

[wary timber]

This isn't making it easier huh..

[whole crypt]

use better vanguards that won't need heal

[wary timber]

All my vanguards need to heal at some point

[tame jungle]

are you doing agir backline farm

[wary timber]

Agir needs main fleet ships

[tame jungle]

yes so you're doing that

[whole crypt]

what vanguards are you using and where are you grinding

[wary timber]

The only main fleet ships I can use is Bismarck, Tirpitz and Graf Zeppelin.

[tame jungle]

then you're not restricted for the vanguard tho since you gotta unlock the 2nd cdc by grinding the first

so you can use your high level tankier vanguards to just stay alive and exist right now

then swap to ironblood frontliners later on when you unlock 2nd cdc but put unicorn in your fleet to baby them

[wary timber]

Bismarck is my flagship for my 2nd Fleet along with Graf Zeppelin

The healer of said fleet Is Perseus

Ill go check my vanguard

[tame jungle]

just run mob fleet triple IB for data collection lol

[wary timber]

Z23(no augment yet) Kawakaze and Graf Spee

The Spee I have is using the standard gun that doesn't care about shields

[half plover]

between sandys and hoods aug, is there any prio? I feel like my hood is just doing fine in opsi so I am considering sandys first while I level her anyway rn

tbh the only unique aug I have is from laffey so there might be others I wanna get too

[tame jungle]

i'd say hood, there's hardly any reason to really bring sandy to opsi imo

[inner delta]

hood

[whole crypt]

this is what I used for AvP grind, except the ships were around 15 levels lower when I did it

[tame jungle]

100% barrage proc is actually quite a huge improvement over 70%(?) in terms of consistency

[half plover]

does it matter in opsi abyssal or similar content?

[tame jungle]

mostly consistency + light armor in terms of hood since her barrage's light armor modifier gets improved a lot

[sly raven]

yat sen worth 125?

[half plover]

alr ty

[whole crypt]

maxed sandy with aug can be replacement harbin I guess, you'll want a better BB/BC than Hood eventually anyway

[half plover]

it will take forever until I can research and build harbin lmao

[whole crypt]

if you use her in 14+ sure

[half plover]

while I am already retroing and leveling my sandy rn

[sly raven]

im tryna do w13

[whole crypt]

13 doesn't need 125 so up to you

[wary timber]

Interesting fleet comp. I can't use Zeppy or Gneisnau cuz they're level 1 now still.

[whole crypt]

xp packs

[tame jungle]

xp packs...

[wary timber]

I dumped them all into Implacable

[half plover]

if you level in 12-1 you can bring lvl 30 ships if you have a good vanguard

when I started FdG grind I had lvl 40 bismarck and peter strasser lmao

[wary timber]

The main reason I'm doing the Agir grind is to get a better vanguard .. my vanguards is mostly DDs and CLs that dont do well in the long run without healers

[tame jungle]

portland? :D

[wary timber]

The CAs I have can tank for a bit or don't deal enough damage

[half plover]

I feel like IB ships aren't the greatest vanguards with a few exceptions like friedrich carl or z23

there are way better options that you have earlier from other factions

[wary timber]

Portland .. oh my poor Portland

Neglected. Skills at all lv1

[inland shoal]

Portland has no skills tho

[whole crypt]

Heinrich and Adalbert are not bad

[inland shoal]

(The skills both do practically nothing no matter if lvl 1 or 10)

[half plover]

if you summoned for brennus last UR event and already mlb'd her she is a portland replacement too

[gloomy mesa]

Is the upcoming rerunn banner worth pulling on?

[wary timber]

We don't talk about last event.

[whole crypt]

just use tickets

[inland shoal]

You get pull tickets so at least use those

[wary timber]

I tried to at least get Brennus but RNG said no

[tame jungle]

use tickets but don't go crazy with the cubes on rondo

[wary timber]

I do have a good tank upcoming.the Prinz Heinrich

[half plover]

is this the next event?

I wanna get all ships lmao

pulling crazy

[hallow iron]

Damn yorck looks good

[tame jungle]

i mean if you got enough cubes then it's fine to pull a bit but none of these ships are particularly relevant

[wary timber]

I'll bumrush the last map for Seydlitz then

[half plover]

I got over 400 so I could spare some rn until we have the date of the next UR event

[tame jungle]

it's all in the name of the game "resource management lane", just make sure to set a hard cap so you don't get in trouble for next UR

[half plover]

my hard cap is gold, I dont need to set one for cubes

[wary timber]

This event will make a fine testing ground for Prinz Heinrich

[whole crypt]

not sure who thought AL is a waifu collection game, it's a logistics simulator

[wary timber]

Btw how good is Lutzow and Emden

[half plover]

lützow is good tech

SR + BB + double tech KMS

[wary timber]

I have both of them but never bothered to level them up and limit break them

[left cedar]

Emden niched into KMS BBs, and that is it

Lutzow just another in a bunch of alot ... not bad, but not good to be remembered

both have gud tech

[eternal basalt]

New or rerun: Vanguard?

[gloomy mesa]

Tickets? What's that?

[tame jungle]

for reruns you get tickets by playing that you can use in place of cubes to do pulls on the event banner

[eternal basalt]

You get 31 as EN player

[undone plover]

For UR reruns it is usually 44
For emden rerun around 30 I think

[wary timber]

Interesting ..

[left cedar]

EN always with 1 less than CN/JP

[gloomy mesa]

Hmm okay let's pray for luck

[wary timber]

Btw if I have an issue with a CVL stealing MVP from my BBs should I equip the CVL with less efficient equipment in terms of actual damage dealt to increase chances of my BBs or CVs getting MVP

[gloomy mesa]

Also I finished unlocking roon, should I continue with Brest while I wait for enough tech to start on Anchorage?

[whole crypt]

MVP control is a waste of time

[tame jungle]

actually i've been wondering about it, but the detection management made CVs kinda busted right? was detection bonus just a straight up bonus to damage on top of what it used to be?

[eternal basalt]

Can you do zFdG?

[left cedar]

cuz they are quickier ...
and MVP controling its more a waste of time than improve
since in a bunch of times the amount of time u lose per fight cuz u are removing potential of dmg to give someone a MVP its gona bee alot more of time and effort

[whole crypt]

I think concealment was like 10% if not detected

[wary timber]

I see...

[plain saffron]

Well back then there's no detection mechanic at all

/detection

[odd root]

Bridal Z23

Detection Level:
If the gauge hasn't been filled, your carriers gains "hidden buff", which is 10% flat AA resistance reduction to enemies (basically they deal more dmg) and they can't be chosen as a valid target (enemies BB won't attack your CV when hidden).
If the gauge has been filled, there will be an exclamation mark (!) displayed to the side of the gauge, and your carriers lose the "hidden buff". They will regain the buff when the gauge level falls below the red line.
The gauge will be slowly filled if spotted by the enemy (both planes and ships) if they crossed the detection line, when they are burning, and when launching an airstrike.
Credit: -It's Rajaku-#1817 and Newbie#1553

For more information, consult the wiki

[plain saffron]

Can be more than 10% dmg depending on enemy

[steady beacon]

To be specific, it's increase the AAModifier by 10%
It's not "merely" a 10% DMG increase
As an example, if enemy has 350 AA, then the AA modifier works out cleanly to 0.3
0.3 --> 0.4 --> 0.4/0.3 = 1.33, or a 33% damage increase

[tame jungle]

since it's AA resistance it seems kinda fucked up because of how the formula works

oh yeah there we go lmfao that's the calc

[steady beacon]

It's why keeping concealment is so important
And, conversely, why losing concealment can tank a CV's damage considerably

[tame jungle]

thanks for clearing it up

[left cedar]

AA in general is a mess

AA Guns its more than AA Stats, but both fucking mess

[steady beacon]

That is why I chuck L/60s on everyone and say a prayer

[cobalt rapids]

whats l/60

[tame jungle]

rainbow AA right

[steady beacon]

Ye

[cobalt rapids]

.

[eternal basalt]

Imagine 600 ships with that

[wary timber]

I hate how I have a lack of accelerator AA guns. But have more gold quad bofors guns , hazemeyer aa guns and the gold 105mm German aa gun than anything else

[steady beacon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_57_mm_Naval_Automatic_Gun_L/60
The real-life version of the rainbow AA gun, if you're interested
Pre sure I latch on to "L/60" simply because it's shared with the gun mounted on the AC-130 (although that is a 40mm Bofors)

[tame jungle]

quadboof is an accelerator tho?

[wary timber]

Its slow

[hard mesa]

Does 0.05 AA cooldown time different matter? Tried to shoved a 134 on fleet and the avg. cooldown only rise about 0.03~0.08s

[whole crypt]

quad bofors is like that odd not fast enough but not low damage gun

[wary timber]

I upgraded my Hazemeyers a lot more than the quad bofors. So now all my Hazemeyers are faster than the quad bofors

[whole crypt]

that's not the point

hazemeyer is going to be faster than quad bofors regardless but quad bofors is closer to a damage gun than an accelerator

[undone plover]

Quick Q guys does the 457 hit 4 salvo in guild fight with radar or just run double shell?

[wary timber]

Hmm

[steady beacon]

Uhhhhhh
In Arbiter, Vanguard starts firing fourth salvo at 0:28, so
That's more than 60sec iirc, so should not be possible
Double shell, particularly bc Compiler has basically zero evasion rate

[undone plover]

[steady beacon]

Also, technically 457 can hit 4 salvo in guild fight if used on Alsace

Or Dunkerque for that matter

[calm rose]

Just end poor compiler with one strike

[hard mesa]

Flandre

[sleek spade]

isn't this rerun event kinda shit?

the only good girl is Emden...

and event shop is kinda lame too

[cobalt rapids]

so the usual sr event

[calm rose]

It's an old SR event, can't expect them to be exactly still meta

[tame jungle]

it's also not a must pull so see it as an opportunity to save your cubes

plus free builds

[steady beacon]

Eh, Lutzow and Seydlitz aren't awful tbh
Seydlitz also once had a niche in that other game mode but not anymore

[sleek spade]

awwww

maybe I'll just try to get Emden and back to doing campaign for gold

[steady beacon]

I'd at least get enough for the cogs imo

Everything else if you wanna dump is fair

[sleek spade]

yea will do

always need cogs

[tame jungle]

was it gonna be 1w or 2w event

[steady beacon]

Light rerun, so 1 week

[eternal basalt]

It hasn't started yet... jeez

[pseudo phoenix]

Now i crafted this, who's CA was fitted for?

[eternal basalt]

You might aswell state now the new IB is shit

[pseudo phoenix]

[sleek spade]

it started in the past

[zinc turret]

how hard is opsi stronghold ? so far i tried opsi i can kill normal arbiter with back and fort to the port to heal 5x so roughly 20% damage dealt to the arbiter with 2 fleet and i can kill abyss c5 with 1x rest order with 2 of my fleet

[undone plover]

It is the best CA gun vs medium (and very close second vs heavy)
Use it on your damage dealing CA (usually hindenburg/unzen)

[undone plover]

Stronghold is weaker than arbiter
Use the same strategy to beat it

[zinc turret]

so i can back and forth to port to heal and clear it bit by bit ? , that great

[hallow iron]

Wait I can go to port while doing opsi map d won't reset my progress??

[eternal basalt]

Depends what you do

[zinc turret]

well they give yess emoji so yes but u cant do that at abyss

[eternal basalt]

Yes is for Stronghold

[hallow iron]

I can do this lose, go to port recover full hp and go again while boss don't recover hp right?

[zinc turret]

abyss and hidden u cant do that

[undone plover]

Cant do that with hidden zone
Abyssal and hard arbiter
Everything else u can leave and heal

[hallow iron]

What is arbiter btw

[zinc turret]

i cant do that at hard arbiter ? that suck then lol i need heal 5x at normal arbiter

[tame jungle]

Final boss in the middle

[hallow iron]

Oo I'm at that node now in story

[eternal basalt]

Nope, that's what makes her hard

[zinc turret]

so how much harder the hard arbiter compared to the normal beside u cant go to port to heal ?

did i can use rest order at hard arbiter ?

[undone plover]

Hard arbiter is not sth u attempt your first month rly
Give it a few months
U need 4 good fleets. Decent gear and preferably submarines to tackle it

[zinc turret]

staying few days there might be not bad idea if i can do that

[tame jungle]

Rewards are shit and heal command disabled

[zinc turret]

well lets skip it then till im strong enough

[undone plover]

U can attempt it if u want
If u get it down to 75% u get some rewards
But if u can only do 20% to normal arby then it is kinda pointless

[tame jungle]

Well, shit rewards comparatively to normal arbiter at least

[hallow iron]

Is the normal arbiter the story one? Meaning I'm basically almost there and can use your strat

[undone plover]

Story one is like a practice arby
Normal arbiter is stronger iirc

[hallow iron]

Ouh I'm still far then

[zinc turret]

well at campaign there 3 mock battle against arbiters which 1/5 weaker than the normal difficulty arbiter cuz i can clear the c7 mock battle in one go and i need heal 5x to win normal arbiter , arbiter is just 1 boss fight tho u dont need to kill some mob to fight the boss

[eternal basalt]

Except they still have 180/180/180 adept unless fixed

[zinc turret]

just make sure u done the normal arbiter before reset

[undone plover]

The rest command is also disabled vs harby

[half plover]

where could sandy replace harbin?

[eternal basalt]

What are you to do with 4 disabled fleets

[hallow iron]

How much adept do u have?

[zinc turret]

eh arround 200 each

u can buy adept in port resupply anyway if u lack of it

[lethal bolt]

is there a rerun rate up on upcoming rerun and if so,is it worth rolling or no?

[eternal basalt]

Yes, no

[late flame]

also #game-news

[undone plover]

Use the free tickets
Save cubes for new event after or UR events in future

[steady beacon]

Every gold plate counts

[eternal basalt]

Or UR rerun after after

[late flame]

all i care is yorck* and emden since i has skins

[orchid tulip]

do none of the "little" ships give tech points or anything?

[late flame]

none*

[eternal basalt]

Same for muse

[forest palm]

they can earn xp for CDC

[orchid tulip]

then there's no point in saving them, mmh, I will keep amagi-chan though

[eternal basalt]

Collection

[late flame]

Bulin, collab, child, and muse ships do not grant bonus stats or tech points, though any bonuses unlocked will still apply to them once max limit broken
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Fleet_Technology

[orchid tulip]

yeah, I mean having them in your dock after obtaining them

[late flame]

i mean, i totally bought roon muse for.. some a_muse_ment

[dense finch]

Emdem will be rated up in the construction site tomorrow; I see that she is ranked in tier 0, meaning that she is good. As a four-day player, do you guys think that I should pull for her or continue saving for the next UR unita?

[calm rose]

Save for UR, only use the tickets to pull

[shell willow]

i finally decided to work on subs and i have a few t0 ones, but which 3 should i raise? i know 0 about synergies. also, does it matter whos in which position?

[late flame]

just save

[eternal basalt]

Continue, use your tickets though

[forest palm]

not me favoriting the 3 main sub fleets

[steady beacon]

Solution is raise all three sub fleets
Jokes aside, I'd probably go for gold American trio

[shell willow]

hm i dont have flasher tho

[eternal basalt]

Complain for UR KMS sub

[forest palm]

just take 37 + 96 + 81

[shell willow]

alright

[steady beacon]

Ye that is indeed unfortunate
I still prefer the greater oxygen tbh

[lethal bolt]

Ok, another question
Is there anyone else I should start build? This is the fleet Im currently planning to use

[bleak mica]

alsace, howe, kazagumo, and not sure about Nelson's barrage

[vivid panther]

alsace or nj?

[bleak mica]

a bit sad to say i would prioritize Alsace 😦

[undone plover]

Looks good
If u are in ch12 stay and put all your uncapped ships in mob to raise them
Kazagumo is a good option to raise
U can replace your capped ships when u get good options to raise

[vivid panther]

So, alsace is better than nj?

please reply instead reactions

[calm rose]

Yes

[late flame]

Y
e
s

[lethal bolt]

is my fleet good enough to push through to ch 12? also out of curiosity, how would my fleet look like for lvling ships?

[vivid panther]

so i maxed out NJ for nothing 💀

[bleak mica]

I found Alsace noticeably dealt a bit more damage with same gears, yes.

[slender heart]

Solid crossfleet tho

[bleak mica]

yes can consider USS crossfleet, like Kearsarge + 2 CVs

[undone plover]

Yeah u can push easily
Mix and match so all the underlevelled ships are not in one fleet

When u get to ch12 put everything level 120 in boss fleet and use the rest to farm in mob

[calm rose]

Depending on your dock, it's not necessary for nothing

[silent latch]

norfolk or foch meta

[late flame]

neither

[blissful hamlet]

is little cheshire the tankiest children ship?

[calm rose]

Not sure, there's smol eugen